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| 00:33.10 | Neffi | holy shit. ghost iron bars are actually selling at 400g a stack. people are nuts. |
| 00:40.41 | Ressy | Its cuz they're mats for the Living Steel |
| 00:42.52 | A-KO | ores or bars? |
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| 00:46.50 | xyphoid | when else are you actually going to use the enormous piles of gold people build up, except those first weeks of expansions |
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| 00:47.58 | Vladinator | having http://www.wowhead.com/quest=27241 let's me teleport using Archamge Malin in SW :P |
| 00:48.17 | Vladinator | just gotta be on full hp so I don't die as I fall |
| 00:56.08 | Neffi | not soemthing you want to happen when you're killing horde |
| 00:56.08 | Neffi | http://i50.tinypic.com/jha88m.jpg |
| 00:56.21 | Neffi | i wonder why Intel felt my GPU driver needed a keybinding for that |
| 00:56.59 | Semlar | because why not |
| 00:57.09 | Neffi | because i died because of it =( |
| 00:57.20 | Semlar | even better |
| 00:57.31 | Neffi | >_> |
| 00:58.23 | Semlar | at least you got to experience it in new and exciting perspectives |
| 01:00.12 | Neffi | ah fuck. my atacking one dude just put that whole questing spot into a massive slaughterfest. 20v20. no more questing. |
| 01:00.39 | Semlar | mission accomplished |
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| 01:09.41 | Stanzilla | Vladinator: I fell asleep sorry .D |
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| 01:10.06 | Stanzilla | fun fact: I did not get logged out because 2 apes were fighting me and I didnt die because of the warrior selfheal |
| 01:10.07 | Stanzilla | for 3 hours |
| 01:10.09 | Stanzilla | nice |
| 01:18.56 | Neffi | how strong is your selfheal? |
| 02:03.34 | Gnarfoz | strong enough, apparently |
| 02:14.02 | Neffi | How do you guys feel about MoP so far? |
| 02:14.40 | Neffi | I haven't hit endgame yet but I'm really fucking impressed with the continent, the quests, and a lot of the little improvements. |
| 02:15.10 | Neffi | Wasn't sure about the class changes early on but everything feels smoother and polished mechanics wise. I'm gonna put out my vote that MoP could be the best expansion yet. |
| 02:16.03 | Jammer | feeling quite solid |
| 02:16.52 | Jammer | heroics are kinda too easy but then again you have the challenge mode |
| 02:17.10 | Amarande | Jammer: well, this is a good thing |
| 02:17.19 | Amarande | the challenge modes are there for people to have something to aspire to skills-wise |
| 02:17.27 | Amarande | while the content itself is kept accessible |
| 02:17.29 | Neffi | accessibility has obviously been a goal for a while |
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| 02:17.52 | Amarande | well, does it really make sense to make such a large percentage of the content be for 1-2% of the players? |
| 02:17.54 | Jammer | well yes, just kinda sucks having to run the easy mode for gear |
| 02:17.57 | Neffi | I used to be one of those hardcore players, doing theorycrafting and shit, but honestly I commend the progress they've made in bringing the content to more people |
| 02:18.17 | Amarande | I still think it might be best to move to a LOTRO like system eventually |
| 02:18.19 | Neffi | I'd like to see how gearing up in PvP feels |
| 02:18.32 | Jammer | Amarande: what's that? |
| 02:18.37 | Amarande | as in, just do away with boss loot altogether and have basically everything from instances come in the form of JP/VP |
| 02:18.46 | Neffi | That's one thing that's always frustrated me. You have no choice but to feel useless for the first several weeks. The crafted gear in Cata was an improvement, but not a big one. |
| 02:19.03 | Neffi | Meh, I like the idea of boss loot |
| 02:19.15 | Ressy | Amarande: It means those who go & complete the heroic raids still have things to do, so Blizz has some more time to release content. |
| 02:19.22 | Neffi | When you finally down a boss (that's supposed to) feel epic, seeing some shiny purples is cool |
| 02:19.22 | Jammer | dunno is frustrating when the piece you need doesn't drop |
| 02:19.36 | Amarande | There's a few pieces of boss loot here and there, but the loot system is highly dominated by the Marks system |
| 02:19.56 | Neffi | yeah but instant gratification for everyone would mean content has a half-life of a couple weeks, not months. |
| 02:20.22 | Jammer | having all boss loot available for JP could be an option |
| 02:20.24 | Jammer | like in addition |
| 02:20.30 | Amarande | Which is basically like JP/VP (well, a little more complicated. There's three types of points, and most items that cost Medallions or Seals cost some Marks as well) |
| 02:21.07 | Jammer | could maybe require you kill the boss before you buy it too |
| 02:21.10 | Amarande | Typically, solo and party instances give mainly Marks and a smaller quantity of Medallions, while Seals only come from raid groups |
| 02:21.43 | Amarande | that's another thing I'd like to see WoW aspire to, is instances that scale by party size, like the Skirmishes LOTRO has |
| 02:23.56 | xyphoid | personally i'm in the camp of preferring no badges/vp myself, my favourite bit of the game has always been figuring out what gear i need and where it comes from and going and getting it |
| 02:24.59 | xyphoid | but that's probably brain damage from muds showing |
| 02:25.04 | Neffi | yeah. having a bit of mystique to the progression factor makes the game feel more epic |
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| 02:38.08 | Sintacks | I got under the world |
| 02:38.10 | Sintacks | and now i'm stuck |
| 02:45.03 | Cairenn | Just fyi, I hate winter. I just had to turn my furnace on for the first time this season. |
| 02:45.40 | Amarande | Winter is coming? :) |
| 02:45.48 | Semlar | if it makes you feel any better i have the a/c on |
| 02:46.14 | Cairenn | I'd rather still need my A/C than the furnace :p |
| 02:46.38 | Amarande | I have to keep the AC on pretty much always, or the computer and other electronics in the room heat the room up to an uncomfy 80 degrees |
| 02:46.42 | Amarande | (F, that is) |
| 02:46.51 | Amarande | and there's only the one window in the room (which has the A/C unit in it) |
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| 02:53.33 | Semlar | it's about 85 degrees outside :| |
| 02:54.03 | pb_ee1 | (29.4444 Ceslius degrees) |
| 02:54.37 | kd3 | it's a chilly(ish) ~20c outside considering it's been gray/rainy all day |
| 02:55.32 | Semlar | it's also been raining all day |
| 02:55.51 | Semlar | i think it's supposed to be raining all week |
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| 02:56.38 | Semlar | i hate florida |
| 02:58.26 | Neffi | wow. now guards in pandaria towns? |
| 02:59.28 | Semlar | guards are a crutch |
| 03:00.25 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: 2x ShadowedUF_Options-v3.6.1-1-g8ff5231\config.lua:3118: bad argument #2 to "format" (string expected, got nil) :( |
| 03:00.31 | Gnarfoz | (on /suf) |
| 03:03.00 | Shadowed | You realize you're using a fairly old version |
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| 03:12.25 | Gnarfoz | huh |
| 03:12.42 | Gnarfoz | I had just updated to 3.6.1-11 |
| 03:13.14 | Gnarfoz | maybe I updated with the game running while new files were added |
| 03:13.32 | Gnarfoz | that surely fucks things up (although I have no idea why the version number would be that wrong) |
| 03:14.02 | Gnarfoz | anyway, server's down for restart and I've gotta work "tomorrow" (i.e. in 4 hours), so... another time :D |
| 03:15.21 | Cairenn | Awwww, much sadness for Canadians - Barbara Ann Scott and Raylene Rankin both died today :( |
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| 03:47.33 | Arrowmaster | iOS6 maps jokes arent going to get old anytime soon http://imgur.com/ZVBU9 |
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| 03:50.14 | kd3 | hahaha |
| 03:53.33 | Arrowmaster | kd3: saw the android sale today right |
| 03:53.44 | kd3 | ...no? |
| 03:54.07 | kd3 | was at work all day. trying to get caught up now |
| 03:54.10 | Arrowmaster | then i shale karma whore more http://redd.it/10pvoi |
| 03:55.47 | kd3 | meh, I don't want to go through the pain and suffering of running a vm just to purchase the thing |
| 03:55.51 | kd3 | even though it's only $0.25 |
| 03:56.05 | Arrowmaster | i thought you had cm9 or 10 on your phone |
| 03:56.13 | kd3 | neg, 7.2 |
| 03:56.29 | Arrowmaster | ouch |
| 03:56.44 | kd3 | there's no official support for 9 on my htc aria, I'm probably going to flash a forum version soon |
| 03:57.00 | Arrowmaster | i bought nova, smart tools, horn, tdnr, and gbwg today |
| 03:57.27 | Arrowmaster | and finally stopped using the default launcher on my nexus7 |
| 03:57.47 | Arrowmaster | been using nova on my nexus s for a while though but not the paid version |
| 03:59.06 | Arrowmaster | today was a bad day, i actually purchased a zynga and a gameloft game, i feel so dirty now |
| 04:07.31 | znf | How can you tell if you're in a battleground? :-/ |
| 04:11.56 | Kemayo | Oh, how I long for the way to tell the distrance to an arbitrary unit. |
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| 04:17.14 | Kemayo | (CheckInteractDistance only works if you have a unitid.) |
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| 04:26.11 | Zoopercat | Hey everyone: in WoW you can spawn a browser in-game - when checking out the leaderboards (under dungeon finder > challenge tab). I can't find documentation on how to do this in my mod. Does anyone know how to do it? |
| 04:26.47 | Zoopercat | clarification: you click a button in WoW, that spawns a browser outside of your game (this is not an in-game browser) |
| 04:27.40 | Ketho | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=19991 |
| 04:28.00 | Zoopercat | <3 TY |
| 04:30.35 | Ketho | fyi you cant choose your own url |
| 04:33.15 | Zoopercat | ah, so it just opens the browser, or goes to the blizzard site? |
| 04:35.19 | Neffi | znf: IsInInstance returns "pv |
| 04:35.25 | Neffi | "pvp" as its second return for BGs |
| 04:35.30 | Neffi | arena is a different return |
| 04:35.55 | Neffi | I'm using this myself and it works 100% of the time. "pvp" always means BG. |
| 04:36.02 | znf | ah, awesome |
| 04:36.03 | znf | thanks |
| 04:36.08 | znf | trying to fix BGSpy |
| 04:36.43 | Neffi | It returns true, 'pvp' specifically |
| 04:36.54 | Neffi | nil, 'none' if you're in the world, etc |
| 04:37.19 | batbot | Shirik fears to duel a bot, what a coward. |
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| 04:43.13 | Thunder_Child | DIAF batrick |
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| 04:54.37 | Shirik | has returned from the land of the deserts |
| 04:54.54 | Cairenn | hands shirik a canteen |
| 04:57.49 | Shirik | Hi facebook |
| 04:58.00 | Shirik | STOP TELLING ME TO DRAG TO REPOSITION COVER IF YOU WON'T LET ME DRAG |
| 05:05.55 | Shirik | so this is pretty awesome |
| 05:06.07 | Shirik | We often get asked the last 4 digits of our social security number to prevent identity theft |
| 05:06.43 | Shirik | Those mailings that the SSA sends out telling you how much you've paid into social security? Yeah, it says on it "Your social security number: XXX-XX-#### (only the last 4 digits are shown to prevent identity theft)" |
| 05:06.48 | Shirik | gg. |
| 05:07.06 | Cairenn | *snark* |
| 05:07.23 | Neffi | Does Gathermate2_Data have Pandaria data yet? |
| 05:07.51 | Neffi | GatherMate2 won't show anything on the world map for me, even for shit I know is there, and Routes is insisting no nodes exist for Pandaria zones, but people are reporting that this is an error in Routes. |
| 05:08.06 | pompy | @project gathermate2_data |
| 05:08.11 | pompy | derp |
| 05:08.12 | Neffi | I can't tell if something's broken, or if Data isn't scraping Pandaria |
| 05:08.27 | Neffi | pompy: What? |
| 05:08.27 | pompy | (10/1/2012 1:08:07 AM) Repo: pompy: [WoW] GatherMate2_Data (Updated Sep 30, 2012 at 14:27 UTC) - http://www.wowace.com/addons/gathermate2_data/ |
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| 05:08.31 | pompy | so prolly not |
| 05:08.44 | pompy | 5 days in, maybe actually |
| 05:08.56 | Neffi | It's being updated on Curse almost daily |
| 05:09.24 | Neffi | kagaro's been doing scrapes apparently because there's tons of "data update" changes |
| 05:10.06 | pompy | kagaro: ^ |
| 05:10.09 | pompy | heh |
| 05:10.29 | Neffi | oh he's here >_> |
| 05:10.33 | Neffi | kagaro: ping |
| 05:11.36 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: credit card companies do the same |
| 05:12.08 | Arrowmaster | and holy fuck this season of dexter is going to be awesome |
| 05:12.11 | Shirik | we aren't very good at this |
| 05:13.22 | Neffi | Arrow: No spoilers please, still havent seen the first episode |
| 05:13.41 | Arrowmaster | Neffi: spoiler, its awesome |
| 05:13.46 | Neffi | lol |
| 05:13.49 | Neffi | I hope so |
| 05:14.10 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: correct. In general humans sucks at everything |
| 05:14.37 | Neffi | Thunder_Child: Well not everything. They're excellent at sucking. |
| 05:15.36 | Thunder_Child | Neffi: nope, we even suck at that if we try. |
| 05:21.57 | Neffi | Xinhuan: Routes is broken. Switched to Gatherer+DB and I definitely have some mining nodes in Pandaria zones, but Routes insists "no data found". |
| 05:23.26 | Neffi | Xinhuan: Also module AutoShow, lines 19-30 should be looked at. Some spellIDs have been changed. I had to comment out line 21 because GetSpellInfo(7620) was returning nil (Routes assumes it's Fishing). |
| 05:24.59 | pompy | Neffi: just change 7620 to 131474 |
| 05:25.25 | Neffi | I don't care about the error. Mostly that Routes refuses to let me make routes for any Pandaria zones, which seriously sucks as a miner. |
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| 06:08.27 | p3lim | Anyone else having issues with tooltip showing incorrect level of critters you can battle? |
| 06:15.45 | starlon | What's it showing? |
| 06:16.16 | starlon | I know StarTip is showing lvl 1 for battle pets. |
| 06:16.20 | Ackis | I have X achievement points but when I look at myself in the guild list, I'm at about X-100 points, anyone know why this is? |
| 06:16.43 | Stanzilla | because the guild ui is a fucked up piece of shit? |
| 06:16.51 | starlon | snorts. |
| 06:18.38 | Coote | It's probably cached, and slow as hell to update. In other words, as Stanzilla said, it's a piece of shit. |
| 06:21.19 | Stanzilla | MoP is really buggy despite it's long beta phase |
| 06:21.25 | Semlar | its |
| 06:21.47 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 06:21.49 | Stanzilla | tired, sorry |
| 06:21.55 | Semlar | UNACCEPTABLE |
| 06:22.07 | Stanzilla | :E |
| 06:22.18 | Semlar | nah i'm kiddin you're fine |
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| 06:22.43 | Coote | Welcome to teh club |
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| 06:34.03 | p3lim | starlon: Shows level 1 for everything, on beta it showed the actual level |
| 06:34.04 | durcyn | you just did? "for shit" |
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| 06:52.42 | AcidWeb | " Carbonite 5.041 Source Released" O.o |
| 06:53.28 | Semlar | yeah |
| 06:53.43 | Coote | That's the last thing I ever saw coming. I bet pigs are also flying right about now. |
| 06:54.12 | Semlar | i'm looking through it right now |
| 06:54.51 | AcidWeb | I must admit that is... unexpected |
| 06:55.07 | Cairenn | Yup, it certainly surprised the heck out of me. |
| 06:55.27 | Cairenn | I've already got Rythal all set up with the original project now though. :) |
| 06:55.49 | Cairenn | He'll be able to just take it over instead of having to release a whole new addon |
| 06:56.00 | Semlar | maybe |
| 06:56.08 | Cairenn | Maybe? |
| 06:56.28 | Semlar | i think the main reason he wanted the source was to be able to have to something to start from for his own addon |
| 06:56.35 | Cairenn | Nope |
| 06:56.50 | nevcairiel | why cant carbonite just die <.< |
| 06:57.57 | Cairenn | He wanted to take over Carbonite, but (previously) he wasn't allowed to, so he was working on creating his own addon |
| 06:58.07 | Semlar | hm |
| 06:58.14 | Cairenn | but now that he can just take it over |
| 06:58.46 | Coote | When I seen he was working on talking with them, I figured at best they would have just included him as a "team" member, to help with updating it. |
| 06:59.06 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 06:59.36 | Cairenn | the minute they posted about GPL'ing it and releasing the source, I got in touch with Rythal to get the ball rolling |
| 07:04.59 | nevcairiel | i still think its funny that an addon needs to "release its sources" so people can actually, you know, look at its sources. :p |
| 07:05.05 | nevcairiel | wasnt this kinda banned by blizzard :p |
| 07:05.08 | Cairenn | yeah ... |
| 07:05.29 | Semlar | apparently it was only sort of banned |
| 07:05.50 | Cairenn | certain addons were cleared by Blizz |
| 07:06.24 | nevcairiel | If carbonite was among those, i would seriosuly question that decision on Blizz end |
| 07:06.26 | Coote | Didn't they use something like LuaSrcDiet after screwing with variables to make them impossible to decypher or something? |
| 07:06.27 | Cairenn | Carbonite was one of them, although it was a lot less obfuscated in its latest form than it originally was |
| 07:07.00 | nevcairiel | I can understand someone wanting to hide the inner workings of pebble or something so people dont cheat so easily, but wth, a map addon? |
| 07:07.05 | Cairenn | Coote: that's it - they pretty much just ran it through LuaSrcDiet and that's what Blizz allowed |
| 07:07.27 | nevcairiel | its still a obfuscation |
| 07:07.38 | Cairenn | Blizz's call |
| 07:08.34 | Cairenn | it was (imo) a technicality, but Blizz said fine, so |
| 07:09.16 | Cairenn | I understood Popgame's addon being allowed to be obfuscated |
| 07:10.23 | Cairenn | I always kind of scritched my head at Carbonite, but they said it was just white space removal and Blizz accepted that |
| 07:10.44 | Semlar | this is so much more than that |
| 07:10.49 | Cairenn | I know |
| 07:11.46 | Cairenn | I think Blizz was content with the fact that Carbonite stopped charging |
| 07:11.47 | Coote | Maybe with the plans to make it modular, I might actually consider using it sometime. The map was always cool, but too much garbage added in with it. |
| 07:11.56 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 07:13.21 | Coote | think I'll go read a few chapters, then hit the hay. Gnight. |
| 07:13.48 | Semlar | think of me |
| 07:14.38 | AcidWeb | We need get Rythal. |
| 07:14.40 | AcidWeb | here |
| 07:14.45 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 07:14.50 | Elkano | I accidentially my client :( |
| 07:14.59 | Semlar | he's been in the chat before, i haven't seen him talk though |
| 07:15.13 | AcidWeb | We should all express condolences ;d |
| 07:15.25 | Semlar | RIP client |
| 07:16.12 | AcidWeb | For me taking over something so big as carbonite is elaborate form of suicide :D |
| 07:16.21 | Elkano | being unable to loot some mobs :/ |
| 07:16.54 | Elkano | (well I know the cause and it's my own fault in theory but still it shouldn't happen) |
| 07:17.33 | Elkano | server stopped sending me item data ^^' |
| 07:18.00 | Semlar | is that important |
| 07:19.14 | Elkano | well, if the client doesn't recieve the data for an item in loot it won't show the loot/roll window |
| 07:20.16 | Semlar | so only if you want to be able to loot things |
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| 07:34.52 | Semlar | -- Prevent crash here |
| 07:34.55 | Semlar | this is always a good sign |
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| 07:44.04 | harl | hello |
| 07:45.21 | Semlar | hi |
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| 08:04.47 | Fisker | hmm |
| 08:09.36 | Semlar | hmmm |
| 08:10.59 | starlon | aaah |
| 08:11.45 | Cairenn | aaahwoooga |
| 08:13.42 | Fisker | i was just lulzing |
| 08:14.02 | Fisker | over how i bought like 30 pandaria feasts for like 25g each |
| 08:14.25 | Fisker | pretty sure someone made a typo there |
| 08:14.37 | Fisker | probably sold a stack for the single price |
| 08:14.41 | Fisker | and others followed suit |
| 08:20.45 | Semlar | so, you gonna eat all that? |
| 08:22.53 | Canth | mmm, raw pandas... |
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| 08:25.00 | Semlar | you know for something that eats nothing but bamboo they sure are fat |
| 08:26.44 | Canth | Hey now, they're just big boned... |
| 08:28.18 | Semlar | you may be right |
| 08:29.19 | Canth | Nah, they're fat |
| 08:29.29 | Semlar | i knew it! |
| 08:29.48 | Canth | Gotta admit, i like the brewmaster thing mroe than I thought I would |
| 08:30.00 | Canth | its kinda crazy |
| 08:30.14 | Semlar | maybe you're just drunker than you thought you were |
| 08:30.46 | Canth | :) |
| 08:30.57 | Canth | Tho I haven't had a drink in like 12-13 years now |
| 08:35.47 | Canth | well bedtime for me |
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| 09:15.41 | Vladinator | :3 |
| 09:15.47 | Vladinator | damn you :SetRotation :< |
| 09:17.49 | Vladinator | one would think it's just enough to feed it radians and it would rotate the texture for me, but anything else I need to think about when creating a rotation texture? |
| 09:20.05 | nevcairiel | its just a shortcut function so you dont have to do matrix math to come up with the proper tex coords |
| 09:20.29 | nevcairiel | if you use tex coords yourself in addition to that, you may have to consider those =p |
| 09:21.56 | Vladinator | hmm |
| 09:22.02 | Vladinator | I see, I only use a plain texture color |
| 09:22.09 | Vladinator | but I guess I have to assign a texture and not just oclor :P |
| 09:22.26 | nevcairiel | what did you expect to happen when rotating a color? |
| 09:22.34 | nevcairiel | it looks the same in all directions :p |
| 09:22.38 | Vladinator | :3 |
| 09:22.47 | Vladinator | it has a shape, a rectangular shape ;P |
| 09:22.52 | Vladinator | expected it to keep said shape and rotate with it ;D |
| 09:23.01 | nevcairiel | nah thats not how it works |
| 09:23.22 | Vladinator | and now I know |
| 09:23.33 | nevcairiel | it only rotates the texture itself, the frame will stay where it is |
| 09:23.55 | Vladinator | question 2, you probably know something, I wish to make the texture cut off at the edge of the parent frame :P |
| 09:24.01 | nevcairiel | so the texture will even appear to "shrink", because fitting a rotated texture into the same rectangle requires it to be slightly smaler |
| 09:24.11 | Semlar | SetTexCoord |
| 09:24.19 | Semlar | or use a scrollframe |
| 09:25.53 | Semlar | using a scrollframe is so much simpler |
| 09:26.01 | nevcairiel | scrollframes are so ugly |
| 09:26.09 | Semlar | it depends on how complicated what you're trying to do is |
| 09:26.13 | Vladinator | simple |
| 09:26.22 | Vladinator | I want to draw a line on the map where I am and show me where I am headed :P |
| 09:26.24 | Humbedooh | Semlar: cubic spline tiger difficulty! |
| 09:26.28 | Semlar | if you just want to clip a texture and it's relatively simple you can just settexcoord |
| 09:26.33 | Vladinator | old fashion cartography |
| 09:26.55 | Vladinator | flying across several zones to reach a point often misses if I don't line it up properly, so a line would be a helpful tool :P |
| 09:27.39 | Semlar | wait you're just drawing a long rectangle and rotating it based on your heading? |
| 09:27.51 | Humbedooh | superrr difficult ;> |
| 09:27.53 | Vladinator | yes |
| 09:27.54 | Semlar | i know of at least 2 addons that already do this |
| 09:28.12 | Semlar | and i think all they did was make a series of dots in the direction you're facing |
| 09:28.14 | Humbedooh | snag a drawLine command from an existing addon ;\ |
| 09:28.20 | Vladinator | ah right |
| 09:29.21 | Semlar | i think one was called mapruler |
| 09:31.25 | Semlar | there's one called cruisecontrol which looks like it lets you set your destination |
| 09:33.25 | Semlar | presumably, doing it your way you shouldn't need to clip the texture just know the length the line should be |
| 09:34.44 | Humbedooh | mebbe I should make something a'la libCairo for WoW ;3 |
| 09:35.42 | Semlar | just calculate the distance in pixels from your arrow to the edge of the map in the direction you're facing |
| 09:45.17 | bluspacecow | is there a way of turning on class specific colors for Chatter ? |
| 09:46.10 | Semlar | i think that's an option in the default interface |
| 09:46.37 | bluspacecow | do you remember where ? i'm having a blank moment |
| 09:47.02 | Semlar | maybe in the tab settings for the chat |
| 09:47.09 | Semlar | i'm not sure |
| 09:48.11 | bluspacecow | ah |
| 09:48.14 | bluspacecow | i see it now |
| 09:48.28 | bluspacecow | its a radio button besides each source you like to see in that window |
| 09:48.46 | bluspacecow | *cross off list of things to config* |
| 09:53.25 | Vladinator | Semlar: I am no math expert but what algorithm am I looking for to calculate the x,why coordinates from my position to the edge of the map in the facing direction? :P |
| 09:54.29 | bluspacecow | Does the Dalaran AH link in with the one in IF ? |
| 09:54.29 | Semlar | i think you want the pythagorean theorem |
| 09:54.50 | Semlar | yes |
| 09:55.04 | Vladinator | right |
| 09:56.02 | Semlar | okay basically you want to figure out where on the edge of the map the line is going to intersect |
| 09:56.31 | Semlar | and you have the offset of the arrow and the direction |
| 09:56.36 | Humbedooh | predicts sinus and cosinus being used ;o |
| 09:56.47 | Humbedooh | or sine and cosine ;\ |
| 09:56.55 | Humbedooh | damn latin |
| 09:57.12 | Semlar | and then some math happens |
| 09:57.19 | Semlar | i'm probably not the person to ask |
| 09:57.58 | Semlar | i am so bad at math |
| 09:59.22 | Semlar | i usually draw out what i want to accomplish then figure out what needs to be done |
| 09:59.22 | Vladinator | can use :GetTop to calculate the differences in with and height (respectively) |
| 10:01.09 | Humbedooh | and then atan2(x,y) to get the angle or some such |
| 10:01.19 | Humbedooh | or was it y,x, can never remember |
| 10:01.28 | Humbedooh | and then trigonometry baby! |
| 10:01.45 | Semlar | come to think of it i'm pretty sure i solved this problem at some point when i drew poi icons on the edge of the screen |
| 10:02.17 | Semlar | i probably just immediately forgot how after i was done |
| 10:03.11 | Semlar | it would help if i could remember what i called that |
| 10:04.26 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/M83eZ.jpg this isn't very helpful |
| 10:05.15 | Vladinator | hehe |
| 10:10.14 | Semlar | i can tell you i had to treat each side separately based on which direction you were facing |
| 10:11.11 | Semlar | you're calculating the intersection of two lines, the one you're drawing and the one that makes up the side of the map |
| 10:14.33 | Semlar | if you're facing > -45 and < 45 degrees you're looking at the top edge |
| 10:15.13 | Semlar | > 45 and < 135 is the right edge |
| 10:16.05 | Semlar | > 135 or < -135 is the bottom |
| 10:16.16 | Semlar | > -135 and < -45 is the left |
| 10:17.45 | Fisker | :o jnwhiteh |
| 10:17.46 | Fisker | friday |
| 10:19.42 | Vladinator | if I have x,why coordinates (pixels) |
| 10:19.52 | Vladinator | how can I apply a certain distance using my orientation (radians)? |
| 10:21.20 | Fisker | got disconnected Adys_ can't reconnect ;_; |
| 10:21.23 | Semlar | sqrt((x2-x1)^2 + (y2-y1)^2) |
| 10:21.23 | Fisker | oh there it was |
| 10:21.28 | Adys_ | Fisker: ? Oo |
| 10:21.35 | Fisker | from wow |
| 10:21.55 | Semlar | is the distance between two points |
| 10:22.02 | Vladinator | yes |
| 10:22.07 | Vladinator | but I need to go the other approach |
| 10:22.09 | Fisker | can you keep replanting plants hoping to get bursting crops btw? |
| 10:22.23 | Vladinator | length and source point as known |
| 10:22.27 | Vladinator | but not destination x,why :P |
| 10:22.32 | Vladinator | x,why* |
| 10:22.38 | Vladinator | x,y** (lol) |
| 10:23.13 | Semlar | how do you have length |
| 10:23.33 | Vladinator | oh nvm |
| 10:23.43 | Vladinator | I only got source and orientation lol :p |
| 10:23.47 | Semlar | you need to figure out where your line is intersecting the edge of the map |
| 10:23.56 | Vladinator | yeah that's what I am working on atm |
| 10:23.57 | Semlar | then you have two points, the arrow and the line intersection |
| 10:24.41 | Vladinator | that is the step I am stuck on atm xD |
| 10:24.50 | Vladinator | intersection one |
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| 10:41.27 | Fisker | man this tillers exploit is sick |
| 10:41.32 | Vladinator | wha? |
| 10:41.57 | Fisker | all the way to exalted by using the farm |
| 10:42.03 | Vladinator | :S |
| 10:42.39 | Fisker | i estimate only having to plant, "unfuck" and uproot 30000 plants in order to get to exalted |
| 10:45.07 | Vladinator | Spade not working this time, weird :P |
| 10:45.27 | Vladinator | nvm |
| 10:45.29 | Vladinator | works :p |
| 10:45.29 | Fisker | sometimes you can't target them |
| 10:45.43 | Vladinator | gotta relog for the target bug ye |
| 10:46.09 | Fisker | i just used /target |
| 10:46.23 | Vladinator | ye but not easy if there are several "alive" mobs with that name :p |
| 10:52.56 | znf | Hmmm, anyone else doing Temple of Kotmogu with SuF's arena frames hidden and erroring how? |
| 10:56.42 | Vladinator | :< |
| 11:02.46 | Vladinator | what should one plant on your farm? hmm:p |
| 11:03.32 | Elkano | depends... what you intend to cook or what's said to have good groth till next day |
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| 11:03.47 | Vladinator | where is it said what has good growth? |
| 11:07.12 | Vladinator | ah the fish guy :p 25g is a tad much |
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| 11:22.29 | kagaro | Neffi i did a post yesterday with mp data |
| 11:22.47 | Neffi | yeah i figured out the problem is routes |
| 11:24.23 | Amarande | If your spades don't work, you might be like my bridge partner a couple weeks ago. Heh ... I ended up feeling like I wanted to show said partner what clubs are. :P |
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| 11:31.59 | Vladinator | what do I do with 800 mark of the world tree (firelands dailies)? :P |
| 11:32.13 | Adys | <Fisker> i estimate only having to plant, "unfuck" and uproot 30000 plants in order to get to exalted |
| 11:32.16 | Adys | I dont get it Fisker |
| 11:32.39 | Fisker | you can get bursting crops |
| 11:32.46 | Fisker | bursting crops = instant harvest = 50 rep with tillers |
| 11:32.48 | Vladinator | when mobs spawn and you kill them you get some rep |
| 11:32.55 | Adys | ah |
| 11:32.56 | Fisker | no |
| 11:33.03 | Amarande | wait, so tillers rep is supposed to be normally even *more* tedious than that? |
| 11:33.09 | nevcairiel | you can get exalted doing it the "normal" way much faster probably =p |
| 11:33.10 | Fisker | no |
| 11:33.13 | nevcairiel | go collect dark soils or something |
| 11:33.20 | Fisker | not tillers rep nevcairiel |
| 11:33.22 | Adys | dark soils dont give tillers rep |
| 11:33.39 | nevcairiel | ah only for the individual guys? |
| 11:33.43 | Adys | yea |
| 11:33.46 | Amarande | has flashbacks to Hydraxian Waterlords and Bloodsail Buccaneers (neither of which I've ever found the patience to max, personally :p) |
| 11:35.29 | Amarande | I'm also going to hazard a guess that yes, you do need to exalt the damn guys in order to get the latest "X cooking recipes" achievement. :S |
| 11:36.13 | Amarande | Unless of course you're a rogue with hundreds of thousands of gold to spare. Blasted rogues and their thistle tea of cheating :) |
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| 11:42.29 | Amarande | btw, does Gatherer track Dark Soil? |
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| 12:00.20 | Vladinator | what just happened?... |
| 12:00.26 | Amarande | ? |
| 12:00.38 | Vladinator | http://i.imgur.com/BdyhL.jpg |
| 12:01.33 | Amarande | hm, one, I see some tearing near the mammoth tusks. you got vsync set? |
| 12:01.55 | Vladinator | not that |
| 12:02.03 | Vladinator | (that's just faulty screenshot plugin for pidgin :P) |
| 12:05.53 | Vladinator | travel form on mammoth :p |
| 12:07.01 | Vladinator | btw the daily with ball throwing to your serpent is very buggy |
| 12:07.11 | Vladinator | your serpent chases after every ball and not only yours :P |
| 12:07.59 | neutronimity | Is there an addon that changes the backpack display from a bunch of confusing, complex, disorienting, mass of icons to a conventient list of names + small icons? |
| 12:08.28 | neutronimity | Any inventory display - character, bank, etc. |
| 12:08.59 | Vladinator | hmm |
| 12:09.08 | Vladinator | could be done but would need paging |
| 12:09.10 | neutronimity | I would loooooooooove it. |
| 12:09.15 | Vladinator | or very small text :3 |
| 12:09.21 | neutronimity | I would even write it myself if I had no idea. |
| 12:09.30 | neutronimity | How about a scroll area? |
| 12:09.35 | Vladinator | exactly |
| 12:09.44 | neutronimity | And also 32x [Gold Ore] |
| 12:10.05 | neutronimity | Toggle to expand to show individual stacks/items |
| 12:10.28 | neutronimity | would write it myself if I had idea about lua* |
| 12:10.43 | neutronimity | Red [S] for soulbond |
| 12:11.47 | neutronimity | I have no idea how to do this in lua. :( |
| 12:13.00 | Vladinator | very doable, question is what are you willing to do for it? :3 |
| 12:13.27 | Fisker | holy motherfucking shit |
| 12:13.39 | Fisker | just found out about the yak "exploit" in twolong steppes |
| 12:13.48 | Fisker | 30 stacks of windwool cloth in like 15 minutes :D |
| 12:14.03 | neutronimity | What I am willing to do for it .. I could provide German translations if there are any needed. |
| 12:14.06 | Adys | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioI87nA4hTU#t=2m20s |
| 12:14.07 | Adys | so good |
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| 12:17.55 | neutronimity | Sorry, accidental leave. |
| 12:18.10 | neutronimity | Do you have any addons I could translate, Vladinator |
| 12:18.20 | Vladinator | hehe |
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| 12:18.45 | Vladinator | I was just being funny with you, I hadn't planned coding an inventory addon, it's a lot of work :D |
| 12:18.57 | Vladinator | not being inspired is a problem :P |
| 12:21.53 | neutronimity | Aaah :( |
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| 13:11.15 | alestane | Cairenn|afk: http://thedevilspanties.com/archives/713 |
| 13:12.52 | foxlit | gah, /castsequence :( |
| 13:13.11 | foxlit | it's so inconveniently limited :( |
| 13:14.05 | foxlit | Suppose I wanted to have my finishing move buttons swap to Healing Touch for 5 seconds after performing a finishing move -- if I had just one finishing move, I could do that with /castsequence reset=5 Savage Roar, Healing Touch |
| 13:14.35 | alestane | Say it with me now: |
| 13:14.53 | alestane | Modifiers in castsequence apply to sequences, not spells. |
| 13:15.56 | foxlit | I'm not sure why that's relevant. |
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| 13:24.17 | alestane | I was expecting you were looking for something like /castsequence reset=5 [mod:shift] Something Else; Savage Roar, Healing Touch. |
| 13:25.50 | nevcairiel | sounds like he wants more then one button to switch after casting one spell |
| 13:25.59 | foxlit | nevcairiel got the right idea. |
| 13:26.33 | nevcairiel | you know what would be great, an OnUpdate in protected-land :D |
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| 13:27.22 | alestane | No, nevcairiel. |
| 13:27.29 | Amarande | fun fact: panda shaman don't actually seem to need to hold their shield. it just floats in the air by their will. :D |
| 13:27.39 | alestane | Protected timing not allowed. |
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| 13:28.05 | nevcairiel | can i then at least have them add all information to properly implement action bars again? |
| 13:28.34 | alestane | I keep trying to come up with an acceptable timing solution and they can all become cooldown timers if sufficiently abused. |
| 13:28.53 | nevcairiel | why did they have to split possess/vehicle bars into like 3 APIs, and not expose them in protected space :( |
| 13:28.54 | alestane | What information are you missing at the moment? |
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| 13:29.38 | alestane | Mostly because they almost never put ANYTHING into protected space unless we ask them to. |
| 13:30.39 | nevcairiel | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6490559996 |
| 13:30.43 | nevcairiel | tuller made a laundry list |
| 13:31.12 | Amarande | nev: you mean like how every vehicle quest gives me the giant blizz vehicle bar at the bottom instead of the bar just dropping into bartender like it used to? |
| 13:31.39 | nevcairiel | its virtually impossible to support all combinations of weird encounter-paging in an addon right now |
| 13:31.59 | nevcairiel | oddly enough, the only encounter i know to use the temp shapeshfit bar had that mechanic disabled now =P |
| 13:32.23 | zenzio | which one was that? |
| 13:32.29 | nevcairiel | last boss in drak'tharon |
| 13:32.36 | nevcairiel | he doesnt turn you into skeletons anymore |
| 13:32.50 | nevcairiel | or at least last i tested before mop launch |
| 13:33.05 | Amarande | hm. wasn't there an achievement related to the skeleton thing or am I mistaken? |
| 13:35.12 | foxlit | alestane: /castsequence is already a very advanced cooldown tiemr |
| 13:37.51 | Amarande | And hey, on the bright side, at least we're not a microtransactions-based game, so we regularly get most of these API fixes :) |
| 13:38.31 | foxlit | and /castrandom is voodoo that is explicitly the opposite of what we could do within the restricted infrastructure. |
| 13:39.07 | nevcairiel | shouldnt you be able to reimplement random casting in the secure env? |
| 13:39.37 | foxlit | yes, but no. |
| 13:39.53 | alestane | I think math.random was excluded. |
| 13:40.00 | Amarande | (thinking of, say, LOTRO, where apparently the UI API has been getting steadily worse, and it's believed to be because WB, who bought Turbine, want people to have to use the default UI so they can make sure the Store gets enough exposure ... addons would be likely to shrink or remove the precious Store buttons) |
| 13:40.02 | nevcairiel | so write your own pseudo-random code |
| 13:40.12 | foxlit | The real one checks whether your spell was cast successfully before continuing |
| 13:40.22 | nevcairiel | does that even make sense? |
| 13:40.40 | foxlit | yes, because apparently mashing /castrandom All, Your, Abilities, Here was a thing |
| 13:40.59 | nevcairiel | lol =Ü |
| 13:41.10 | nevcairiel | so what happens when it finds one on cooldown? |
| 13:41.16 | alestane | Now? |
| 13:41.16 | nevcairiel | it just waits until its off cooldown? |
| 13:41.20 | Kalroth | error |
| 13:41.25 | alestane | It gets stuck on it until it casts successfully. |
| 13:41.44 | Kalroth | uh? it didn't use to be like that |
| 13:42.45 | alestane | They did that around halfway through Lich King. |
| 13:42.51 | foxlit | But if you don't like that, you can implement your own castrandom, with bear and hookers, but no check-that-spell-wast-cast behavior. |
| 13:42.55 | alestane | Around Call of the Crusade or so. |
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| 13:44.05 | nevcairiel | didnt cog also implement some kind of custom cast sequences? |
| 13:44.39 | foxlit | back when we walked uphill both ways in the winter, restricted env had timing |
| 13:45.17 | zenzio | kids these days |
| 13:45.25 | nevcairiel | i remember using a dispel button to dispel a fixed set of people based on this cast sequence addon, back in black temple |
| 13:45.32 | zenzio | when I was young we had to intercept the data stream and inject our own to implement macros |
| 13:45.43 | foxlit | but same issue as castrandom: you can't check that you cast anything before advancing to the next item |
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| 13:48.13 | Amarande | nev: heh, which is probably why it's not allowed now :) |
| 13:48.25 | Amarande | Sons of Sons of Decursive are squashed ruthlessly unto the seventh generation |
| 13:49.15 | Semlar | why should i have to make my own decisions about what to cast! |
| 13:49.40 | nevcairiel | you dont have to, all you have to do is press the correct buttons |
| 13:49.47 | nevcairiel | an addon might as well tell you waht to click |
| 13:49.49 | foxlit | If you really wanted to, you can probably still get time, at least passively, into the restricted environment |
| 13:50.00 | nevcairiel | the problem is that you cant make one button you just spam all day :P |
| 14:13.35 | alestane | "Where do we keep the duct tape?" "...Did your car break down AGAIN?" |
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| 14:28.06 | Semlar | i keep duck tape in my car |
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| 14:29.53 | Semlar | someone knocked my wing mirror off and i just taped it back to the frame |
| 14:34.15 | foxlit | can you spend Justice Points on MoP tradeskill mats yet? |
| 14:36.44 | Dagmar | Semlar: J. B. Quick and J. B. Weld. Either one will make sure it can't fall off again |
| 14:37.22 | Semlar | yeah the tape isn't a very good long term solution |
| 14:37.31 | Dagmar | You can find it at hardware stores, some dept stores, and for really disturbing reasons, some auto-parts stores (because you can *epoxy* engine parts back together with the stuff) |
| 14:38.31 | Semlar | it has this spring that runs through it that i guess was holding it to the frame before but the plastic part it looped around broke off |
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| 14:41.28 | p3lim | Is there some API to get the model of your current targeT? |
| 14:41.45 | p3lim | Like, specific model, not just generic ones like humanfemale.m2 |
| 14:42.45 | Semlar | no |
| 14:43.01 | Semlar | well, okay it depends on what you mean |
| 14:43.43 | Semlar | for NPCs you can use their NPC id to set the model if you want to make a 3d model of them |
| 14:44.00 | Semlar | and you can set the Unit for the 3d model |
| 14:44.05 | Semlar | if you have a valid unit id |
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| 14:44.24 | Semlar | but you can't actually store the model for later use if the model has multiple textures because you can't get the texture |
| 14:47.52 | Semlar | i used model:SetCreature for displaying 3d models of npcs i was tracking for later browsing but once they leave the creature cache that stops working |
| 14:48.09 | p3lim | Was thinking of comparing models |
| 14:49.31 | Semlar | once you set the model you can get the model path but i don't think you can get the texture path too, i know you definitely can't set it |
| 14:50.06 | Semlar | i was trying to come up with a solution for when the cache expired but never found one |
| 14:50.22 | p3lim | :SetDisplayInfo() |
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| 14:50.46 | Semlar | is that newish |
| 14:50.51 | p3lim | No idea |
| 14:50.58 | Semlar | this addon was from years ago |
| 14:51.06 | p3lim | Thing is, :GetDisplayInfo() doesn't exist, afaik |
| 14:51.47 | Semlar | i can't remember if i was able to actually get the texture somehow, i just know i couldn't set it even if i had one |
| 14:52.31 | Semlar | interesting that there would be a SetDisplayInfo with no way to fetch the information |
| 14:53.22 | Semlar | it looks like it's used for the quest npc portraits |
| 14:54.35 | Vladinator | it's idd used for the quest portraits ;) |
| 14:54.49 | Vladinator | the npc doesn't have to be cached when using the display id directly |
| 14:55.20 | Semlar | oh now i remember this method |
| 14:55.25 | Vladinator | question, why does npc scan use tooltip scanning when SetCreature would return nil model if the creature is not cached? |
| 14:55.26 | Vladinator | :P |
| 14:55.36 | Semlar | i thought it was called something else |
| 14:56.51 | Semlar | using a 3d model to check if an npc were cached is possible but would be more complicated than just seeing if the tooltip contained any text |
| 14:57.11 | Semlar | because the model isn't immediately available after you set it |
| 14:58.42 | Semlar | you'd have to set the model, wait for it to update, then check if it worked |
| 14:59.17 | Semlar | although i'm not entirely sure tooltip information is always immediately available either |
| 15:00.00 | Vladinator | could do a test |
| 15:00.21 | Vladinator | both methods and see if the results are the same, and can use the time to time them and see if there is a performance advantage :P |
| 15:00.42 | Semlar | i had people reporting issues immediately after zoning in my cooldown addon when i was scanning death knight abilities to figure out their rune cost |
| 15:01.13 | Semlar | i wasn't taking into account that the tooltip could be blank or something |
| 15:01.58 | Vladinator | the values returned by the API doesn't change, only tooltip data? :P funny |
| 15:02.08 | Vladinator | tooltip scanning is very popular I notice, hehe |
| 15:02.29 | Semlar | i only did it because i really had no other way to get the cost of the spell |
| 15:03.06 | Semlar | and the interface was not returning the correct information about their cooldowns |
| 15:03.17 | Semlar | but they fixed that so i got rid of all of that code |
| 15:08.02 | Semlar | more importantly i just noticed that models have the method GetWorldScale which i hope does what it sounds like |
| 15:13.58 | Semlar | feh, it doesn't |
| 15:14.04 | Semlar | i have no idea what it does |
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| 15:17.39 | Vladinator | :D |
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| 15:23.20 | Semlar | is it possible to check if a particular event is registered to a given frame |
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| 15:24.54 | Semlar | i could hook RegisterEvent but that would only work for frames after i hooked it |
| 15:25.16 | Shirik | I'm pretty sure there's an IsEventRegistered() |
| 15:25.28 | Semlar | oh thanks |
| 15:25.40 | Semlar | that's much better |
| 15:26.33 | Shirik | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/IsEventRegistered |
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| 15:27.22 | Semlar | i want to unregister an event from frames that use it while i do something to prevent them from breaking |
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| 15:29.21 | Vladinator | how can I time the function I call |
| 15:29.28 | Vladinator | what was the debug command? |
| 15:29.37 | Vladinator | GetTime is not useful atm :P |
| 15:30.25 | nilyaK | instruction counting, assuming all the instructions are approximately within the same complexity. |
| 15:30.34 | Semlar | the profiling function? |
| 15:30.57 | Semlar | there's GetFunctionCPUUsage |
| 15:31.40 | Vladinator | no I mean I wanna time how long a function runs |
| 15:31.53 | Vladinator | since GetTime updates each frame and a function can cause "hickup" it wouldn't notice it :p |
| 15:31.55 | Semlar | and why can't you use GetTime? |
| 15:32.18 | Vladinator | GetTime then 1 sec screen freeze then calling GetTime again both yield 0 :P |
| 15:32.27 | Vladinator | yield same time |
| 15:32.30 | Vladinator | not zero :P |
| 15:33.34 | Semlar | there's a lua time function but it would be almost completely useless because it's only in seconds |
| 15:34.09 | nevcairiel | there are debug functions for that |
| 15:34.21 | nilyaK | can you post the function or is it super long? |
| 15:34.31 | Vladinator | hmm |
| 15:35.07 | nevcairiel | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/debugprofilestart http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/debugprofilestop |
| 15:35.22 | nevcairiel | dont use it in a "production" addon, because it causes slowdowns =p |
| 15:36.20 | Vladinator | done with my test addon, nevcairiel does it look okay? http://pastebin.com/pY3tv90c |
| 15:36.37 | Vladinator | method 1 is tooltip scanning and method 2 is using a model frame |
| 15:36.58 | Vladinator | model frame says the function used 0 ms while tooltip parsing says ~15 ms for me :P |
| 15:37.20 | Vladinator | oh you have to cvar scriptProfile=1 |
| 15:37.35 | nevcairiel | for the cpu profiling functions, yes |
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| 15:37.48 | nevcairiel | (activating that cvar causes a real slowdown :D) |
| 15:37.53 | Vladinator | yes |
| 15:37.57 | Vladinator | for profiling :D |
| 15:38.03 | Vladinator | but |
| 15:38.13 | Vladinator | why don't silver dragon, npc scanner, use model frames instead? |
| 15:38.16 | Vladinator | it appears they are quicker :3 |
| 15:38.20 | Vladinator | and cleaner code |
| 15:38.29 | Vladinator | since all we need is if it exists or not, not the localized name ^^ |
| 15:38.44 | Semlar | are you sure comparing GetModel to an empty string is correct |
| 15:39.08 | Vladinator | it doesn't return nil |
| 15:39.16 | Vladinator | if it's not set it returned empty string for me :/ |
| 15:40.59 | Vladinator | what are your thoughts? |
| 15:42.11 | Semlar | i don't know, clearing the model and calling getmodel gives an empty string |
| 15:43.23 | Vladinator | then it might not be cached then |
| 15:43.40 | Vladinator | when I did the test on my end both the tooltip and model versions return the proper counts |
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| 15:44.21 | Vladinator | SetCreature using an uncached npcID will return the last proper model path using GetModel so you have to ClearModel first always, then it's either empty string or a proper path depending if the npc is cached or not. |
| 15:44.48 | Semlar | then it should work |
| 15:45.42 | Vladinator | I am just a bit worried the model one returns 0 when cpu profiling it |
| 15:45.44 | Semlar | and considering npcscan uses models anyway it could just eliminate the tooltip |
| 15:45.56 | Vladinator | silver dragon too uses tooltip ^^ |
| 15:46.09 | nevcairiel | maybe the model isnt as reliable |
| 15:46.15 | Vladinator | maybe |
| 15:46.20 | Vladinator | gotta test :3 |
| 15:46.37 | nevcairiel | never change a running system :) |
| 15:46.37 | Semlar | in my experience the model had a delay before it was set, but i haven't messed with them in a very long time |
| 15:46.44 | Vladinator | me neither |
| 15:47.53 | Semlar | but maybe it doesn't matter for just checking if something is cached |
| 15:48.01 | pompy | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=502994543063882&set=a.133548883341785.20130.133409023355771&type=1 |
| 15:48.15 | Semlar | i was doing it to make sure i could set the camera view AFTER the model was loaded |
| 15:48.34 | Semlar | because if you set it too soon the camera would just default to whatever |
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| 15:50.51 | pompy | Arrowmaster: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=398977690168667&set=a.290582334341537.66430.149409038458868&type=1 |
| 15:56.44 | Dark_Elf | yippee carbonite source released |
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| 15:58.39 | Vladinator | :o |
| 15:58.41 | Vladinator | really? |
| 15:58.50 | pompy | ~lart Dark_Elf |
| 15:58.50 | purl | pries Dark_Elf's back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to Dark_Elf |
| 15:59.46 | Vladinator | I made a simple scanner using models now |
| 16:00.13 | Vladinator | full list of rare ids, at start scans and makes a table of what npcs are not yet in store, and the OnUpdate function checks each second to see if there is a change and alerts when there is :P |
| 16:00.14 | Vladinator | basic |
| 16:00.38 | Vladinator | running it together with npcscan that also has the same db just to check how it works |
| 16:00.48 | Dark_Elf | yup it on wowinterface forum |
| 16:01.10 | pompy | what do you mean source? |
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| 16:01.38 | Vladinator | meaning not obfuscated code |
| 16:01.43 | Ressy | :O |
| 16:01.59 | Vladinator | meaning you can actually read the source without a headache |
| 16:02.09 | Ressy | where? |
| 16:02.33 | Ressy | oh! found it. :) |
| 16:02.38 | Vladinator | I told you the addon isn't 1 big file, it was many files :P |
| 16:02.45 | pompy | link |
| 16:02.52 | Ressy | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44570 |
| 16:02.53 | Dark_Elf | yeah they stripped out the debug lines |
| 16:02.56 | Vladinator | http://www.carboniteaddon.com/download |
| 16:03.25 | pompy | "Haavok and I have decided we will not be updating Carbonite any longer. We no longer play WoW and just have too many others things going on in life to devote any time to it." |
| 16:03.27 | pompy | ha |
| 16:05.14 | Ressy | ie, they're not making money from it now, so its dead. |
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| 16:07.56 | Ressy | Its pretty damn decent of them to release the source tho, so people who love the addon can continue it. |
| 16:09.08 | Dark_Elf | yeah |
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| 16:15.43 | Vladinator | tooltip scanning seems still superior because for some reason SetCreature on something I cache while playing, it didn't update, not until a /reload :/ |
| 16:16.08 | Vladinator | unless there is a way to trigger a rehash internally or something it's still better to tooltip scan |
| 16:17.00 | Unkle | Ressy If I was spending a lot of time on something I no longer played and I couldn't get paid for my time, I'd ditch it too. |
| 16:17.03 | Vladinator | btw amazon estimates that my parcel will be delivered next week Thursday... really? it's just UK to Norway Oslo :/ |
| 16:17.19 | Vladinator | gg amazon, you said 4th when I ordered and its 11th now -_- gg |
| 16:17.20 | Unkle | because My Time > internet people's time. |
| 16:18.21 | Ressy | Unkle: I totally understand. |
| 16:18.26 | Ressy | I just dunno why they didn't do it earlier. |
| 16:18.45 | foxlit | "Jogu the Drunk: Acquaintance (4580 / 8400)" << that's a heck of along string :( |
| 16:19.27 | Unkle | foxlit - OPie - Pet Ballter! Make it so! (I kid, I kid) |
| 16:19.46 | Unkle | s/Balter/Battler |
| 16:20.22 | Dagmar | I'm not sure jogu serves any real point beyond being a bad example |
| 16:20.48 | Dagmar | I got the achievement for harvesting everything on a predicted high-yield day. Haven't talked to him once. |
| 16:21.19 | foxlit | Dagmar: reaching exalted (or whatever the equivalent is) with them does something |
| 16:21.19 | Dagmar | Also, WTB strong traps |
| 16:21.35 | foxlit | I was contemplating adding reputation to the four gift items |
| 16:21.47 | Dagmar | foxlit: As I understand it, once you're best buds with him, he makes predictions for free |
| 16:21.55 | foxlit | but that makes tooltips look a little crowded :( |
| 16:23.13 | Dagmar | The tooltips already say who they go to |
| 16:23.46 | Dagmar | I'm not sure it's useful to bother telling someone the exact values beyond maybe indicating who might like it more than the other |
| 16:25.48 | foxlit | yeah, it'd only make sense as a "hey, remember that you're further along with that guy!" reminder |
| 16:40.52 | bluspacecow | "Ressy: Its pretty damn decent of them to release the source tho, so people who love the addon can continue it." <---- or altenatively they'll find it such a convuluted |
| 16:42.04 | bluspacecow | complicated spaghetti mess of code that they'll won't even bother taking it up |
| 16:42.29 | Ressy | the code was obfuscated by the program they used to pack it. |
| 16:42.35 | Ressy | They released the source code. |
| 16:42.36 | bluspacecow | not looking at any one addon in particular |
| 16:42.44 | bluspacecow | *cough* Cartographer |
| 16:43.13 | Lopeppeppy | Spaghetti code is only suitable for feeding to the dogs. |
| 16:43.24 | bluspacecow | code can be complicated and over convuluated without being obfuscated |
| 16:43.25 | Humbedooh | as long as it's not grapes |
| 16:43.29 | bluspacecow | the two concepts are not the same |
| 16:43.32 | bluspacecow | or chocolate |
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| 16:44.13 | Lopeppeppy | I think garlic is bad for dogs and cats. I know it's bad for cats. |
| 16:44.52 | Unkle | mmmmm... garlic. Good for what ails ya. |
| 16:44.55 | bluspacecow | neither 3 are for me |
| 16:45.17 | bluspacecow | how about all at once ? *mixes garlic in with chocolate and grapes for a cake* |
| 16:46.51 | Lopeppeppy | blueberry, you're frakin' nuts. |
| 16:46.58 | Lopeppeppy | You eat that, because I'm sure not gonna touch it. |
| 17:12.35 | Adys | Maldivia: latest DW ep was really good |
| 17:12.49 | Adys | but theres something about the 11th doctor Im still uncomfortable with |
| 17:12.59 | Adys | its just not .. enough |
| 17:13.15 | Adys | not strong enough, too childish |
| 17:13.29 | Antze | stupid question time: anyone aware how to disable the new "sticky AE targeting cursor" thingy? |
| 17:13.47 | Antze | I want to throw just one keg of brew, and then have my normal cursor back |
| 17:13.57 | Adys | huh? |
| 17:14.14 | Adys | and by the way you phrase it, likely not |
| 17:14.30 | Adys | you cant do anything with the cursor in lua |
| 17:14.39 | Antze | maybe not in lua, maybe settings |
| 17:14.52 | Adys | less unlikely |
| 17:15.01 | Adys | wowprogramming.com has a list of cvars, see if anything's interesting |
| 17:15.25 | Antze | gonna google it further... |
| 17:23.07 | Semlar | there's a cvar for violenceLevel? what does this do |
| 17:23.12 | Semlar | blood spurts? |
| 17:24.44 | Semlar | maximum bloodiness! |
| 17:26.42 | Lopeppeppy | Probably to do with game sales in asian markets - I believe they have very strict ratings systems. |
| 17:26.48 | cbreak | sounds like a DPS Scale Factor |
| 17:27.11 | Semlar | it's apparently the blood spurt level from 0 to 5 with a default of 2 |
| 17:27.18 | Neffi | bluspacecow: That's still up in the air. Some studies/people say that garlic causes aenemia in dogs and cats, others suggest that's not true (though onions do). There's not good evidence either way, but it's generally accepted that you should not give garlic to dogs/cats because if it is bad, it can be very bad. |
| 17:28.10 | Neffi | Oh actually that should be @Lopeppeppy |
| 17:28.23 | bluspacecow | But you can give chocolates to Lopeppeppys |
| 17:28.26 | Semlar | still a good way to determine if your pet is a vampire |
| 17:29.03 | Lopeppeppy | I will eat all chocolates. |
| 17:29.35 | bluspacecow | EAT ALL THE THINGS! |
| 17:29.44 | Neffi | It's worth mentioning that the studies suggesting it is very bad are numerous and date back longer than those that suggest it is not bad. Also that those which suggest garlic is not bad generally seemed to have been funded by companies that sell products which contain garlic. |
| 17:29.53 | bluspacecow | http://t.co/DxqbUUGV |
| 17:29.58 | bluspacecow | wow by snacks |
| 17:30.25 | Neffi | I don't see any sinister correlation, because I don't think some president of some company is telling its researches to find a substance it can use to kill animals. |
| 17:30.43 | Neffi | But somebody suggested to me that the studies suggesting garlic is safe for them were questionable and untrustworthy |
| 17:31.01 | Semlar | why would you feed garlic to your pets in the first place |
| 17:31.09 | Lopeppeppy | Pets shouldn't eat people food. So therefore they won't get ahold of garlic. |
| 17:31.16 | Neffi | A lot of people feed their pets like they feed themselves |
| 17:31.22 | Semlar | :| |
| 17:31.54 | Neffi | I used to take care of a dog that got raw steak or chicken, and a mix of raw vegetables every night. No dried up, low-quality, cereal-based kibble. |
| 17:31.59 | Semlar | well cats are carnivores |
| 17:32.02 | Neffi | But the vegetables had to be spiced. |
| 17:32.26 | Lopeppeppy | If it weren't for the spices, that would be a fine diet, Neffi. |
| 17:32.53 | Neffi | Ehhh. Cats are more carnivorous than dogs in that they will not really eat vegetables at all, and cannot taste sweetness in fruits. But they will forage in the wild to make up for nutritional deficiencies. Mostly grass and flowers. |
| 17:33.09 | Semlar | cats eat grass to make themselves throw up |
| 17:33.11 | Neffi | Lopeppeppy: I mean herbs and stuff to give it flavor so they eat it |
| 17:33.18 | Dagmar | They still like banana |
| 17:33.23 | Neffi | That too. So do dogs. Keeps them regular. |
| 17:33.57 | Lopeppeppy | Pumpkin is also popular to give to cats and dogs as a bit of fruit/veggie fiber. |
| 17:34.07 | Neffi | But either way certain amounts of vegetables/fruits are good for cats, and most top-end cat food contains a decent amount of it (though less than the dog food). |
| 17:34.26 | Semlar | cats are also lactose intolerant but love milk |
| 17:34.27 | Neffi | Yeah I think Orijin uses pumpkin. And sweet potato. |
| 17:34.38 | Neffi | Cats are a walking dilemma. |
| 17:35.06 | Neffi | It should be apparent that something's not right with them when you see them blatantly ignore the laws of physics and commonsense |
| 17:35.21 | Semlar | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Cat_fall_150x300_6fps.gif |
| 17:35.42 | zenzelezz | I love how cats always look so calm and bored while falling |
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| 17:36.01 | Semlar | this is my favorite gif on wikipedia |
| 17:36.07 | Neffi | I don't think they even think about the fall. More what they're gonna do after they land. |
| 17:36.09 | zorktdmog | moin |
| 17:36.14 | Neffi | that's pretty cool |
| 17:36.50 | Neffi | Just remember never to give your pet Science Diet. =) |
| 17:36.54 | Dagmar | Very bendy CGI cats |
| 17:37.01 | Semlar | science rules |
| 17:37.07 | Neffi | For all its marketing, it's among the worst foods out there. It's like giving them McDonalds. Maybe worse. |
| 17:38.23 | Semlar | i just release a live chicken and let my cat hunt it down every meal |
| 17:39.01 | Neffi | Can't get more natural than that folks |
| 17:39.23 | Semlar | yeah but now there's feathers and blood all over the house |
| 17:39.36 | Semlar | it looks like someone's been practicing santa maria |
| 17:39.51 | Neffi | imagines a group of average people dressed in average clothes chasing down a buffalo with spears made out of broomsticks. |
| 17:39.56 | Neffi | I don't think it'd work for us tbh |
| 17:39.59 | Semlar | i mean santaria |
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| 17:40.17 | Semlar | i mean santeria |
| 17:40.45 | Semlar | i could kill a buffalo |
| 17:41.03 | Neffi | I'm sure you can Semlar |
| 17:41.23 | Semlar | with an elephant gun |
| 17:41.32 | Neffi | On a related note I was taught how to properly kill a full-grown goat by yourself, from somebody who grew up in a third-world country where killing a goat is a right of passage into manhood |
| 17:41.40 | Neffi | No weapons involved |
| 17:42.10 | Semlar | do you let it starve to death because you can't afford to feed it |
| 17:42.28 | Neffi | It involves being rather nice to the goat, so it won't mind when you get in front of it and grab its horns. Then kick its feet out and twist the opposite way. And cook. |
| 17:43.06 | Semlar | that's what it gets for trusting you |
| 17:43.11 | Neffi | ayup |
| 17:43.40 | Neffi | Also this probably mostly worked because men of that country are pretty damn built. I don't think I could do it. =( |
| 17:44.37 | Semlar | just challenge the goat to a pistol duel |
| 17:45.31 | Neffi | Should I ever need to kill a goat, I hope I do have a pistol |
| 17:45.42 | Neffi | I can't imagine a situation where I both need to kill a goat, AND have a pistol on me |
| 17:45.57 | Semlar | they won't be able to grip the weapon with their hooves so it should be a pretty easy win |
| 17:46.19 | Neffi | Now just because I said that, I'm gonna come across a really angry goat on my way to school today |
| 17:46.37 | Semlar | SWEEP THE LEG |
| 17:46.42 | Neffi | I shall try |
| 17:46.49 | Semlar | what if it doesn't have horns |
| 17:46.54 | Neffi | Or run into traffic and hope I'm more agile than it. |
| 17:47.12 | bluspacecow | grab it by its balls |
| 17:47.37 | Neffi | it might like that |
| 17:47.42 | mckenziemc | what if you've been castrated bluspacecow |
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| 17:49.23 | bluspacecow | touche |
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| 18:19.04 | Ackis | has anyone made a mod to help with those lore things in pandaland? |
| 18:23.25 | foxlit | Ackis: I was told the words "tomtom", "macros", "wowhead" |
| 18:23.32 | karl_w_w | the new cloth is already a third of the price of cata cloth |
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| 18:23.43 | nilyaK | yea |
| 18:23.46 | nilyaK | new cloth is cheap |
| 18:23.53 | nilyaK | I was looking on AH I was like o.O |
| 18:24.07 | Primer | yet ore and herbs are not |
| 18:24.12 | Unkle | It drops in scads. |
| 18:24.29 | karl_w_w | cooking mats are cheap too |
| 18:24.34 | foxlit | why was old cloth expensive, anyway? |
| 18:24.47 | Unkle | I was able to max out my tailoring on an alt (for the guild achivement) with just a couple of people questing and sending me their excess cloth. |
| 18:25.13 | foxlit | want the new bags, but BoP is everywhere. :/ |
| 18:25.19 | nilyaK | yea :( |
| 18:25.28 | foxlit | bop imperial silk, bop bag pattern, bop spirit of harmony. |
| 18:25.32 | nilyaK | I spent money on MoP gear since I still have cata |
| 18:25.40 | nilyaK | I have like 94 mastery |
| 18:25.42 | nilyaK | it's dumb |
| 18:25.58 | Unkle | Mastery uberalles for some specs. |
| 18:26.13 | nilyaK | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/black-dragonflight/Fran%C3%A7oise/simple |
| 18:27.30 | Unkle | I see you, and ... display http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/kirin-tor/Y%C3%A9ye/advanced in response. |
| 18:28.04 | nilyaK | pan-duh! |
| 18:28.27 | Unkle | He is kung-fu fighting. |
| 18:28.43 | Unkle | And drinking. Lots and lots of drinking. |
| 18:29.06 | Unkle | 6 slots of inventory dedicated to various booze items. |
| 18:29.10 | nilyaK | I see you have elekks |
| 18:29.19 | nilyaK | I do not participate in children's week. |
| 18:29.58 | Semlar | but.. think of the children! |
| 18:29.59 | AcidWeb | Ahhh GW2 trade house is so nice. Web based you can temper with it without problems. |
| 18:30.08 | AcidWeb | Everything in JSON. |
| 18:30.12 | Unkle | I did the "What A Long Strange Trip It's Been" achievement. |
| 18:30.38 | Lopeppeppy | drinking, yay! |
| 18:31.10 | Semlar | hooraaaay beer |
| 18:31.14 | Unkle | There are still more quest-reward pets I don't have though. Must... resist ... urge ... to ... complete ... set. <gasp> |
| 18:31.19 | Lopeppeppy | Noooo. Rum and coke. |
| 18:31.35 | Semlar | what are you a pirate |
| 18:31.38 | Unkle | Last night it was Bushmills and Mt. Dew. |
| 18:33.20 | Unkle | Also, Monk Brewmaster tanking seems... ridiculously powerful at my current level. |
| 18:36.13 | karl_w_w | i think all tanking is ridiculous powerful at level x where x < GetMaxPlayerLevel() |
| 18:37.29 | Unkle | I had a similar experience with Protection Paladin and Blood DK, but they tapered off sooner. *shrug* At least it makes for fast leveling. |
| 18:39.58 | Maldivia | Adys: havn't seen it yet - in the US, so |
| 18:40.04 | Adys | ah |
| 18:40.56 | Maldivia | Adys: and right now I'm prepping for my session later today at JavaOne :P |
| 18:41.15 | Adys | giving a talk? |
| 18:41.19 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 18:41.23 | Adys | gl |
| 18:41.27 | Maldivia | thanks |
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| 18:42.21 | Gnarfoz | lol p3lim: "using double underscore to avoid tainting blizzard" - couldn't you just have used nil instead, like sane people do? :D |
| 18:43.21 | Maldivia | better yet - just start your file with local _ ? |
| 18:43.56 | Semlar | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/dentarg/semlar/simple ah yes, the subtlety shaman |
| 18:44.22 | Semlar | i don't recall this spec |
| 18:44.29 | karl_w_w | i thought they fixed that anyway |
| 18:44.35 | karl_w_w | the underscore |
| 18:48.58 | nilyaK | I just laughed really hard at the spec thing, 'a dark stalker that leaps from the shadows...' |
| 18:49.10 | nilyaK | a shaman! |
| 18:49.15 | nilyaK | brb |
| 18:50.39 | Semlar | hey, i can leap from the shadows |
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| 18:51.23 | Dagmar | [Cliche Attack] |
| 19:02.06 | Arrowmaster | this seems a bit excessive http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/1/3436644/sharp-starts-mass-production-of-5-inch-1080p-displays-for-smartphones |
| 19:02.16 | Arrowmaster | 443ppi |
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| 19:03.26 | Gnarfoz | karl_w_w: old commit of his to some addon |
| 19:03.42 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: what to call THAT then? "retina" bullshit name already taken |
| 19:03.49 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 19:04.09 | Gnarfoz | Maldivia: that's not better, that's at best as good/bad as what he did |
| 19:07.34 | nevcairiel | can you really copyright a part of the anatomy? :p |
| 19:07.49 | nevcairiel | trademark whatever |
| 19:08.06 | Lopeppeppy | If so, I know what I'm going to trademark... |
| 19:08.38 | Humbedooh | Lopeppeppy: the cutie mark isn't a real anatomical part! |
| 19:08.57 | Lopeppeppy | Uvula! (sp?) |
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| 19:09.18 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Consideirng that Samsung is poised to cornhole them becasue Samsung can do it with a thinner and _flexible_ screen, they have to rush to make the most of that facility before it becomes obsolete |
| 19:09.51 | Arrowmaster | its LCD instead of OLED, its already obsolete |
| 19:10.12 | nevcairiel | i dont think they build that high res oleds yet |
| 19:10.23 | nevcairiel | or high ppi whatever |
| 19:10.43 | nevcairiel | but yeah OLED is where the future is |
| 19:10.46 | Unkle | Lopeppeppy That misses so many trademark infringement and royalty opportunities... |
| 19:10.57 | Arrowmaster | id rather have a 2xx ppi OLED than a 443ppi LCD |
| 19:11.58 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: you probably can, because trademarks are bound to their designated use |
| 19:12.02 | Dagmar | I'd rather have a pair of thin, flexible ones I can mount on the inside of a pair of ski goggles |
| 19:12.03 | Gnarfoz | (in the US, at least, who knows) |
| 19:13.16 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: they make that already, a display that goes in ski googgles |
| 19:14.24 | Dagmar | I'm not talking about a compass |
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| 19:14.43 | Arrowmaster | the one i saw had full gps |
| 19:15.18 | Dagmar | I'm not looking to go skiing in them |
| 19:15.57 | Dagmar | I'm not gonna spank aorund with wearing a pair of goggles so my monitor gives the illusion of 3D. I want to just put a different image in front of each eye in a fixed posiiton |
| 19:16.06 | karl_w_w | If you can't not go skiing in a pair of ski goggles, what can you not go skiing in?! |
| 19:16.20 | nevcairiel | Dagmar: they have those already |
| 19:16.28 | Dagmar | being that you'd have a devil of a time seeing approaching trees with these on, definitely no good for skiing |
| 19:16.30 | nevcairiel | forgot what the product is called |
| 19:16.47 | karl_w_w | spank goggles |
| 19:16.47 | Dagmar | nevcariel: Sony Glasstrons are horrid resolution and inflexible screen |
| 19:17.01 | nevcairiel | 720p wasnt it |
| 19:17.30 | Dagmar | Valve's working on something, but it's going to be a bit |
| 19:17.40 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: is this what you want? http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1523379957/oculus-rift-step-into-the-game |
| 19:18.04 | Dagmar | ArrowmasteR: Not quite |
| 19:18.20 | Dagmar | I want the _parts_ because fucking patent trolls are going to ruin the Oculus |
| 19:18.52 | Dagmar | The _moment_ Samsung figured out how to make hte screens on a flexible mat someone should have been working on an HMD |
| 19:19.12 | Dagmar | That they didn't jump all over that shit is fairly telling that they know the trolls will descend and ruin everything |
| 19:19.56 | Coote | patent trolls deserve to be catrated, and fed their chopped off bits shortly before being executed |
| 19:20.06 | Coote | *castrated |
| 19:21.09 | Dagmar | You can pretty much bet the first ones aren't going to wait arond for hte product to be finished, because right there on Kickstarter's page it shows that they've got $2.4 million dollars for lawyers to steal |
| 19:22.23 | Dagmar | We need to get the patent system and the copyright system fixed before it's time to just start killing people. |
| 19:22.52 | Dagmar | ...or just start killing people until the rest figure out it's in their survival instincts that the systems be fixed and to stop getting in the way. |
| 19:23.31 | Dagmar | Why do you not have dynamic media streaming that can follow you around the house and play literally anything ever recorded? |
| 19:23.42 | Dagmar | The fucking Copyright Act of 1976. |
| 19:24.03 | Dagmar | It practically requires stagnation. |
| 19:25.04 | Dagmar | No new technology can be produced without all of it's benefits being given to the people who, by definition, didn't invent a fucking thing, first. |
| 19:25.28 | Dagmar | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1523379957/oculus-rift-step-i |
| 19:25.34 | Dagmar | ack |
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| 20:21.09 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: everytime i'm in a zone without coordinates, tomtom makes my game go "click click click click click", as if its permanently re-trying to acquire coordinates, its kinda annoying. :) can easily be reproduced by simply going in the deeprun tram |
| 20:21.23 | jnwhiteh | updated? |
| 20:21.54 | nevcairiel | latest as of git |
| 20:22.04 | nevcairiel | if thats still up todate =P |
| 20:22.30 | jnwhiteh | it is. i'll go and see what i can do. |
| 20:35.18 | Maldivia | perhaps it's a feature :) |
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| 20:39.01 | Semlar | RECALCULATING... |
| 20:39.26 | Semlar | MAKE A U-TURN |
| 21:03.58 | Adys | what advantages are there of being best friends with the tillers npcs? |
| 21:06.53 | Dagmar | Shinier mailboxes? |
| 21:07.17 | Dagmar | As far as I know, how much they like you controls what extra fancy is available on your farm |
| 21:07.55 | Dagmar | Like, the wife of YOon's rival who YOon is sending romantic flowers to eventually installs a mailbox or something |
| 21:09.08 | Dagmar | The drunk, I am told, will no longer charge for making questionable predicions about crop yield |
| 21:09.25 | Adys | what about gina? |
| 21:09.29 | Adys | the quartermaster |
| 21:14.06 | Esamynn|work | nevcairiel: iirc the sound isn't coming from TomTom, there is actually a problem with the Blizzard_BattlefieldMinimap |
| 21:14.49 | nevcairiel | Esamynn|work: but if i turn tomtom off, it stops :) |
| 21:15.12 | Esamynn|work | yah, turning either one off will stop it |
| 21:15.23 | Esamynn|work | I forget if I narrowed down where the sound tiself was coming from |
| 21:17.25 | g0urra | ugh. the golden lotus daily quests at mistfall village are bugged today >< |
| 21:19.46 | Semlar | the sound is probably coming from the interface crying over the deluge of world_map_update events |
| 21:20.42 | nevcairiel | in any case, its not the only addon i have that tries to acquire my position, but its the only one freaking out about it =P |
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| 21:21.27 | Semlar | do you have the little battlefield map displayed? |
| 21:21.32 | nevcairiel | no |
| 21:22.11 | Semlar | interesting |
| 21:23.23 | Semlar | i wonder if astrolabe is attempting to switch up maps trying to find one with the player on it |
| 21:29.16 | Semlar | are you running any other map addons? |
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| 21:39.03 | Vladinator | we can whisper any cross realm char but we can't add them to friends list? :( |
| 21:40.00 | Esamynn|work | Semlar: Astrolabe gives up almost immediately in the situation of the deeprun tram |
| 21:40.24 | Semlar | what if tomtom were to keep calling GetCurrentPlayerPosition |
| 21:41.11 | Esamynn|work | actually, that would do it |
| 21:41.54 | Semlar | i don't really know how tomtom handles not getting any coordinates |
| 21:44.16 | Esamynn|work | actually, that's where the clicking would be coming from, damnit... I wonder if that was there when I first decided to use WorldMapZoomOutButton_OnClick() instead of copying the logic |
| 21:47.39 | Esamynn|work | nope, added June of this year |
| 21:47.41 | Esamynn|work | d'oh |
| 21:47.48 | TC-Work | Nothing says awesome like ssh'ing in somewhere and seeing "ddos: Command not found." |
| 21:50.37 | Esamynn|work | I guess I'll just break down and copy the zoom out logic into Astrolabe :( |
| 21:51.27 | Semlar | click click click |
| 21:54.17 | Semlar | PlaySound("igMainMenuOptionCheckBoxOn") |
| 21:54.23 | Esamynn|work | ^ |
| 21:55.05 | Semlar | it's a shame you have to duplicate all of that just because that's built into the function |
| 21:55.10 | Esamynn|work | like I said, that was added during the beta and I didn't notice until now |
| 21:56.06 | Esamynn|work | !api ZoomOut |
| 21:56.07 | lua_bot | ZoomOut: Sets the world map to show the area containing its current area (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/ZoomOut) |
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| 21:56.40 | Semlar | it's not that bad although i might simplify some of this |
| 21:57.06 | Esamynn|work | yah, I'm not copying the logic for the cosmic map.. don't need it |
| 21:57.25 | Semlar | the player won't be past the continent anyway |
| 21:57.33 | Semlar | actually i think it is on the world map |
| 22:02.30 | jnwhiteh | there are several issues here |
| 22:02.36 | jnwhiteh | TomTom's coord block/feed is broken |
| 22:02.39 | jnwhiteh | I'll fix that, probably tomorrow |
| 22:02.48 | jnwhiteh | the second is the WORLD_MAP_UPDATE race with the battlefield minimap |
| 22:02.59 | jnwhiteh | Blizzard has to fix that one |
| 22:03.11 | jnwhiteh | but I'll get TomTom put into a better state tomorrow, hopeflly |
| 22:03.30 | nevcairiel | i never use the battlefield map, so unless it also does its shit when its hidden, it was something else |
| 22:03.40 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: I explain that it WASN'T that |
| 22:03.46 | jnwhiteh | however, that is a problem that I have to consider |
| 22:03.52 | jnwhiteh | because other people have that issue which is entirely different. |
| 22:04.03 | jnwhiteh | but yes, if Esamynn|work calls the OnClick button then that is sub-par. |
| 22:04.08 | Esamynn|work | jnwhiteh: I'll have a new version of Astrolabe to eliminate the "click click" by tonight (not checking in now because I can't test it in any way) |
| 22:04.25 | jnwhiteh | Esamynn|work: ping me on irc or email when yo udo |
| 22:04.29 | nevcairiel | you really used the button instead of just calling the api? :d |
| 22:04.30 | Esamynn|work | sure thing |
| 22:04.33 | jnwhiteh | i wont look at it for about 9 hours though |
| 22:04.39 | jnwhiteh | sleep now =) |
| 22:04.44 | Esamynn|work | nevcairiel: if you check the method, you'll understand why :/ |
| 22:05.08 | Esamynn|work | (check WorldMapZoomOutButton_OnClick() I mean) |
| 22:05.55 | Esamynn|work | it was safe until part way through the 5.0 beta as the sound was played by the calling code, instead of by WorldMapZoomOutButton_OnClick() |
| 22:07.36 | g0urra | anyone who play on Horde EU? |
| 22:07.56 | g0urra | need to change realm so I can hopefully fix a quest |
| 22:09.12 | Primer | Esamynn: speaking of Astrolabe, it seems that the issue I was experiencing with my addon, where the client hangs, had nothing to do with anything Astrolabe was doing |
| 22:09.35 | Primer | But seems to be tied to my quest POI integration, which I confess, I liberally lifted from another addon |
| 22:09.41 | Primer | a jnwhiteh addon, IIRC |
| 22:10.27 | Esamynn|work | Primer: thanks for letting me know |
| 22:11.02 | Primer | Yeah, since MoP, I've experienced it myself, and have had new bug reports |
| 22:12.16 | Primer | It stems from this: hooksecurefunc("WatchFrame_Update", function() ... |
| 22:12.22 | Primer | In case anyone was interested :) |
| 22:29.25 | Vladinator | done Semlar with my line code :p |
| 22:29.37 | Vladinator | using taxi map drawline hehe |
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| 22:44.28 | Gnarfoz | what are 'minus' classification units? is there a definition? (not to be confused with trivial) |
| 22:45.01 | nebula169 | everytime i saw them they gave less than normal mob exp |
| 22:45.18 | nebula169 | like 3k instead of 30k in townlong |
| 22:46.18 | Gnarfoz | yeah, just trying to figure out if there's an actual name for the unit type |
| 22:51.37 | Amarande | Gnarfoz: probably roughly equivalent to LOTRO's "swarm" mobs, but not sure what the name is officially |
| 22:52.09 | Amarande | (LOTRO has a "swarm" class for what WoW gives minuses to, and also about five distinct and separate types of elites) |
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| 23:10.57 | TC-Work | I feel like perl and mysql are a travesty |
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| 23:31.45 | Primer | mysql yes, perl...no |
| 23:34.26 | Esamynn|work | wait, you don't consider perl to be a travesty? |
| 23:34.49 | TC-Work | Primer: I meant the interaction between them |
| 23:35.28 | Esamynn|work | I can't say I've ever tried to access a database from perl |
| 23:36.18 | TC-Work | after working it python, it's rather less than.....enjoyable. |
| 23:36.20 | TC-Work | s/it/in/ |
| 23:39.34 | Semlar | vladinator: did you figure out the slope intercept and everything? |
| 23:39.44 | Vladinator | it works now |
| 23:39.45 | Vladinator | :P |
| 23:39.52 | Semlar | good times |
| 23:39.57 | Vladinator | I didn't get to calculate an exact destination point |
| 23:40.04 | Vladinator | but worked it out another way lol |
| 23:40.58 | Semlar | whatever works |
| 23:41.08 | Vladinator | http://i.imgur.com/LDmxT.jpg when I hold down a modifier :3 |
| 23:41.26 | Amarande | Esamynn: back in the day, it actually used to be the standard way for web pages to access databases :) |
| 23:41.41 | Amarande | before PHP really took off, it used to be all about Perl-based CGI in what seemed most cases |
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| 23:43.19 | Amarande | and, well, the main exception at least seemed to be pages that used IIS and ASP, of which the less we think the better our heads will be. :) |
| 23:47.32 | mckenziemc | hello Amarande |
| 23:48.14 | Amarande | Evening |
