| 00:04.47 | Arrowmaster | just watched it too, mine was fine |
| 00:05.08 | Arrowmaster | new episode next week right? |
| 00:05.09 | Arrowmaster | right? |
| 00:06.10 | bluspacecow | >_> |
| 00:06.13 | bluspacecow | xmas. |
| 00:07.53 | Arrowmaster | i cant wait that long |
| 00:08.36 | bluspacecow | rewatch the old ones then |
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| 00:17.29 | foxlit | "in_combat = nil -- you might not be in combat. change it to nil rather than false so garbage collect works" |
| 00:17.31 | Thunder_Child | So i picked up a bag of chips and it said "New lager size" and all i could think of was "Now with 95% more air!" |
| 00:18.03 | Thunder_Child | s/lager/larger/ |
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| 00:42.18 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: : I would like a lager chip |
| 00:43.41 | Vladinator | question, how can I properly check for a buff on me at login, what event should I use? I tried playerlogin and unitaura but both didn't fire at login, UnitBuff couldn't find the aura I was looking for at least :/ |
| 00:44.49 | cbreak | hmm... are my old battle pets "common" compared to wild ones? |
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| 00:45.42 | Vladinator | :( |
| 00:46.05 | mckenziemc | hugs Vladinator |
| 00:46.20 | Vladinator | mckenziemc: help me out lol |
| 00:46.30 | Vladinator | know of any event that fires when auras are available? |
| 00:46.51 | AlmtyBob | I used to use the Hack addon to move my Pitbull player/target frames when entering/leaving combat. I just started playing again and got DevPad. I tried modifying the script to work with DevPad and have had 0 luck. Here's my code: http://pastebin.com/8zGqF9NX |
| 00:46.57 | cbreak | ages ago there were aura events |
| 00:47.02 | cbreak | they were used for buffs too |
| 00:47.09 | AlmtyBob | Basically, what I'm wondering is how to get an event registered in devpad |
| 00:47.34 | cbreak | if you want an event to be handled, make a frame |
| 00:47.46 | AlmtyBob | ah, ok |
| 00:47.48 | cbreak | and register that event with an event handler on that frame |
| 00:48.01 | Vladinator | I did a "cheat" |
| 00:48.09 | Vladinator | I registered my frame with UNIT_AURA for player |
| 00:48.18 | Vladinator | and I call it once as the code runs :P |
| 00:48.33 | Vladinator | but it makes sure to unregister as soon a real one fires, then it does the buff check. |
| 00:50.31 | AlmtyBob | Sorry for being a super-n00b, but not even this line runs: MyEventFrame = CreateFrame(“Frame“, “MyEventFrame“, UIParent) |
| 00:50.36 | AlmtyBob | I get Unexpected character near ' |
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| 00:53.22 | Vladinator | wrong " characters |
| 00:53.24 | Vladinator | :P |
| 00:53.35 | Vladinator | looks to be the british " you are using |
| 00:53.55 | AlmtyBob | wow, I would have never, ever caught that |
| 00:54.00 | AlmtyBob | thank you, it was a copy/paste |
| 00:54.02 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: I doubt it, a larger chip means a larger chance of breakage |
| 00:54.17 | Shirik | I said lager chip |
| 00:54.22 | Vladinator | btw making this mckenziemc: http://i.imgur.com/MVBbr.jpg |
| 00:54.35 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: indeed |
| 00:54.35 | Vladinator | it's for Helpful Wikky's Whistle item :P yeah I randomly got it lol |
| 00:54.46 | Thunder_Child | I bet they have them |
| 00:55.09 | Vladinator | after 50 kills you get a bag with items from Wikky, but I wanna make a kill tracker :P so far it counts kills and show the proper data on the tooltip, but step 2 is to only count kills of enemies "worth" anything, can't be grays :/ |
| 01:03.28 | AlmtyBob | got it working, thanks! http://pastebin.com/x6ACHNiw |
| 01:09.50 | Industrial | Thunder_Child: lazors amirite |
| 01:09.53 | Industrial | zz |
| 01:14.49 | Thunder_Child | Industrial: 'lazor' chips? |
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| 01:26.45 | foxlit | I wonder if they voiced that. |
| 01:26.55 | kd3 | o_O |
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| 01:34.18 | Krapsy | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/238181-whats-with-this-contradiction-blizzard/ |
| 01:34.21 | Krapsy | arrg |
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| 01:55.30 | pompy | Cairenn: http://www.g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/blog/post/728382/cat-trying-a-burger/ loll |
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| 02:18.28 | kd3 | wow. even live-side, the sha of anger's on a couple-hour respawn timer |
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| 02:27.23 | pompy | yup i see it up constantly |
| 02:27.51 | pompy | could it oddly just be considered a "starter" outdoor raid boss? lol. |
| 02:36.29 | karl_w_w | the real question is why couldn't it be? |
| 02:37.39 | mckenziemc | why would you say such a thing karl_w_w |
| 02:38.25 | karl_w_w | that's just the way i am |
| 02:38.52 | Cairenn | pompy: lol @ your link |
| 02:50.15 | Kraps | Message: Note: AddOn Mapster attempted to call a protected function (TalentMicroButton:Enable()) during combat lockdown. |
| 02:50.18 | Kraps | derp |
| 02:52.43 | Shirik | then don't do that |
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| 02:59.49 | karl_w_w | derp indeed |
| 03:07.14 | Kraps | its not mine |
| 03:07.23 | Kraps | i cant make addons |
| 03:08.55 | pompy | Cairenn: heh |
| 03:10.47 | Shirik | how to mine for addons? |
| 03:12.18 | Jamash | anyone can make addons |
| 03:15.18 | Jamash | hell, I did |
| 03:15.54 | Shirik | best addon is one line |
| 03:15.58 | Shirik | setfenv(0, {}) |
| 03:16.02 | Xinhuan | didn't you hear? there's a new addon block in minecraft |
| 03:20.40 | karl_w_w | <Jamash> hell, I did <- yes but learning aid doesnt work so what's the point? :P |
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| 04:40.10 | Kraps | heh |
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| 07:31.48 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/BDZCN |
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| 07:48.29 | starlon | no lag today |
| 07:48.38 | starlon | finished leveling with no problems today :D |
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| 07:53.08 | Canth | question, is there a way I can log a message in FrameXML.log ? |
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| 08:00.10 | Canth | n/m |
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| 08:04.26 | bluspacecow | https://foursquare.com/slavikus/checkin/5067fc7ee4b0e370b2522628?s=v8SX4J9Qmzmdtuwtek-oNvRCOyI&ref=tw |
| 08:04.28 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 08:04.44 | bluspacecow | unsanity software never coming back to update their stuff >_> |
| 08:05.20 | bluspacecow | he's been one of the co founders , been on my twitter feed for a year. not a peep on updating Ape , Window shade etc etc |
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| 08:18.11 | jnwhiteh | is there a simple DPS tracker for groups (not raids) with a LDB feed. |
| 08:18.13 | jnwhiteh | Dont need more than that |
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| 08:26.00 | mikma | jnwhiteh: there are few that have separate folders for the plugins, Skada is one i think |
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| 08:53.56 | harl | hi |
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| 09:12.46 | bluspacecow | http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6822676/sherlock-blues-clues |
| 09:12.48 | bluspacecow | LOL |
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| 09:21.47 | mikma | bluspacecow: hah |
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| 10:04.23 | Jaliborc | Has any one found any information on the new "caged pets" link format? |
| 10:04.37 | Adys | caged pets are just items arent they? |
| 10:05.11 | nevcairiel | sadly, no |
| 10:05.21 | Adys | I mean the ones ont he AH |
| 10:05.44 | nevcairiel | in your inventory they are not handled as real items, stuff like GetItemInfo just returns nil on them |
| 10:05.58 | Adys | oO |
| 10:06.01 | Adys | i gotta check that out |
| 10:06.06 | Adys | how do you cage a pet anyway? |
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| 10:09.50 | bluspacecow | @Adys very carefully |
| 10:09.52 | bluspacecow | j/k |
| 10:09.59 | bluspacecow | IIRC not all pets can be caged |
| 10:10.03 | bluspacecow | right click them in the listing |
| 10:10.26 | Jaliborc | Yep, that is the big problem. Blizzard just decided to make the bag API even more messy. |
| 10:10.54 | Jaliborc | Do you require some sort of achievement for caging pets? I can't cage none of mine. |
| 10:11.26 | bluspacecow | IIRC wild pets can't be caged. |
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| 10:23.25 | Jaliborc | So, what exactly can be caged? |
| 10:24.28 | Adys | Im guessing pets you can buy |
| 10:24.47 | Jaliborc | Then I'm off for buying pets! :P |
| 10:24.48 | Jaliborc | Thanks |
| 10:24.56 | Adys | so I have an ancona chicken here |
| 10:25.18 | Adys | |cff1eff00|Hbattlepet:52:1:2:150:10:11:0|h[Ancona Chicken]|h|r |
| 10:25.38 | Adys | 150 hp, 10 atk, 11 spd |
| 10:25.41 | Adys | type flying |
| 10:25.44 | Adys | level 1 |
| 10:25.50 | Adys | Im guessing 2 might be the type |
| 10:25.56 | Adys | rest is pretty obvious |
| 10:26.12 | bluspacecow | There's a pretty good guide on the Pet Battles forums as well as one on wowpedia |
| 10:26.16 | nevcairiel | I think you can catch a pet and then cage and sell it |
| 10:26.22 | nevcairiel | just not all of them |
| 10:27.40 | Adys | wait no, 2 would be the rarity |
| 10:27.56 | Adys | (uncommon in this case) |
| 10:27.58 | Jaliborc | Yep, makes sence |
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| 10:30.33 | Jaliborc | Thanks for all the help! Just went to the crazy cat lady and bought two cats. |
| 10:31.24 | Adys | why did they have to make them item-hacks |
| 10:31.34 | Adys | why not just interact directly between pet journal and auction house |
| 10:31.58 | Adys | i guess its needed if you want to mail/give one |
| 10:32.03 | Adys | but still |
| 10:35.14 | Jaliborc | I think there's no excuse. They should have made a more polymorphic API, instead of cluttering the item sold frames with more conditionals. |
| 10:35.28 | Jaliborc | "item slot" |
| 10:35.53 | Semlar | you sound like a mage |
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| 10:37.22 | Jaliborc | The arcane distorsion in the quanto-spectrum caused by this new API is unacceptable! |
| 10:37.29 | Jaliborc | :P |
| 10:37.32 | Semlar | THAT'S JUST WHAT A MAGE WOULD SAY |
| 10:43.04 | Semlar | don't worry, your secret's safe with me |
| 10:44.24 | Ackis | anyone have an issue where Ren Firetongue doesn't appear? |
| 10:44.33 | Ackis | Golden Lotus faction |
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| 12:22.51 | Fredro | hello, why does select(2,GetItemInfo(itemNr)) return nil the first time and next time with same itemNr it returns the itemLink correctly? Have I missed something? |
| 12:25.25 | Elkano | fist call causes the item to load from disc/server into cache |
| 12:26.37 | Fredro | ah, so noone on the server had cached those items yet? |
| 12:27.03 | Elkano | no, it's just you |
| 12:28.51 | Elkano | if the item data isn't shipped with the client (item-sparse.db2; 61204 items in 16057), it will query the server; if the server didn't have a reason to load the data, yet, it wont return data on 2nd call either |
| 12:29.25 | Fredro | ok thanks |
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| 12:54.55 | A-KO | which bag mod does everyone prefer to use? |
| 12:56.37 | Elkano | AdiBags |
| 12:59.53 | Caleb| | ArkInventory |
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| 13:15.15 | karl_w_w | arkinventory |
| 13:16.00 | karl_w_w | not that i've ever tried anything else, but in 5 years i've never had to |
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| 13:25.55 | karl_w_w | jeez 3 hours in queue and still waiting |
| 13:41.38 | Kraps | bagnon |
| 13:42.25 | karl_w_w | such filthy language |
| 13:43.05 | Kraps | what queue |
| 13:45.20 | karl_w_w | realm queue |
| 13:45.47 | karl_w_w | "frostmourne is full motherfuckerz" |
| 13:45.52 | karl_w_w | or whatever it says |
| 13:47.09 | karl_w_w | is that string in global strings |
| 13:47.10 | karl_w_w | would be fun to edit |
| 13:50.28 | sintAcks | who wants to give me curse prem for my birthday *cough* |
| 13:51.05 | Sintacks | A-KO, bagnon |
| 13:51.09 | foxlit | I just noticed that you can no longer hear other people's fishing bobber splashes |
| 13:51.18 | Sintacks | oh erally? |
| 13:51.22 | Sintacks | that's awesome |
| 13:51.35 | karl_w_w | <sintAcks> who wants to give me curse prem for my birthday *cough* <- nobody. |
| 13:52.00 | karl_w_w | why do you want it? |
| 13:52.06 | foxlit | so they totally implemented silentfish in a way that doesn't suck <3 |
| 13:52.08 | Sintacks | cuz i've been spoiled by it for a month |
| 13:52.27 | karl_w_w | i barely notice the difference |
| 13:52.44 | foxlit | should revamp fishing, though -- something like cho's meditation game would be more fun |
| 13:52.47 | Sintacks | I do when I have 10 updates at once |
| 13:52.51 | Sintacks | on one install |
| 13:52.53 | Sintacks | 5 on another |
| 13:52.56 | Sintacks | and 10 more on another |
| 13:53.48 | karl_w_w | jeez, 71230 auctions |
| 13:54.07 | karl_w_w | and getall doesnt return more than 44400 |
| 13:55.01 | Sintacks | that is one of the very few things i liked about moving from A52 to Uldaman |
| 13:56.26 | karl_w_w | the uldaman AH has less stuff on it? |
| 13:59.10 | Ressy | Auctioneer has a modified getall, that after the 44k ish max, it continues with a normal scan. |
| 13:59.25 | karl_w_w | yeah, I'm acutely aware :P |
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| 14:05.53 | mikma | someone here was making a map addon, anyone remembers the person or the map addon? it looked kinda like the one ckk made once |
| 14:06.01 | Semlar | no idea |
| 14:06.44 | Semlar | oh wait, it was me |
| 14:07.14 | Semlar | i should really be asleep right now |
| 14:08.27 | mikma | ok, any progress etc? |
| 14:08.53 | Semlar | i've been kind of busy with other things so i haven't had much time to work on it |
| 14:09.04 | Semlar | here's some screenshots though http://imgur.com/a/ospQ3 |
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| 14:09.20 | mikma | that sucks, cause it looks so sexy atm |
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| 14:10.52 | Semlar | i'm not entirely sure how it should be implemented though |
| 14:11.43 | Semlar | i don't necessarily want to replace the world map and everything that is attached to it |
| 14:13.24 | mikma | oh no, don't. replacing the worldmap is a bad idea but adding another map is better way to do it |
| 14:13.28 | mikma | different keybind etc |
| 14:13.48 | Semlar | i was thinking about just replacing the battle map with it |
| 14:14.36 | Kraps | Semlar, also add the ability to right-click someplace on the map and have a line go from you to the spot |
| 14:14.36 | Semlar | since it would do whatever the battlemap does anyway |
| 14:15.10 | Semlar | routes? |
| 14:15.43 | Kraps | something like that |
| 14:18.34 | Semlar | i was thinking about making it another mode of the world map, so instead of closing when you hit M it just collapses into the little box |
| 14:26.03 | Semlar | i'll probably just make it completely separate though, i don't want to interfere with other map addons |
| 14:28.41 | Kraps | what about stuff like gatherer |
| 14:30.04 | Semlar | i think a lot of addons use astrolabe to place icons on the world map so it may be relatively simple to hook into that |
| 14:30.22 | Semlar | if not i'll find a way |
| 14:33.04 | Semlar | i could theoretically use some of the actual layers out of the world map frame but it's a little complicated because it keeps trying to resize and scale them |
| 14:34.18 | Semlar | and i can't just replace the functions without tainting the interface |
| 14:35.44 | Vladinator | yes |
| 14:35.48 | Vladinator | that's true Semlar ^^ |
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| 14:35.58 | Amarande | hrm. here's an interesting tech thing that just occurred to me. |
| 14:36.04 | Vladinator | you want to avoid tainting API blizzard use, otherwise it will break their code ;D |
| 14:36.19 | Amarande | whether Brewfest, thanks to CRZ, ends three hours earlier for West Coast servers in a practical sense |
| 14:36.37 | Amarande | (and the other holidays too, but because of the token accumulation, it's much more notable for Brewfest) |
| 14:36.52 | Vladinator | :D |
| 14:36.53 | Amarande | i.e. |
| 14:37.07 | Amarande | are things that "Requires (event)" tied to your home server? |
| 14:37.32 | Amarande | or do West Coast server players risk losing them all every time they leave SW or Org during the last three hours of an event, by being tossed into a later time zone server where the event is no longer on? |
| 14:37.34 | Semlar | maybe it would make more sense if they were all tied to the same time |
| 14:37.53 | Amarande | makes me rather glad to be on East Coast servers only now |
| 14:38.17 | Amarande | but I have to wonder if we're going to hear a huge hue and cry from West Coast players because of it (and I do have plenty of friends in earlier time zones) :S |
| 14:39.20 | Amarande | three things occur to me in this regard, really, actually |
| 14:40.00 | Amarande | 1) that Brewfest requires a lot of accumulation over many days of tokens to get the major things, and you can't avoid CRZ to get them because the festival grounds aren't in the city |
| 14:40.31 | Amarande | 2) that people will be more likely to be doing a lot of later token runs this year than before (since they'll have been focused on the drive to 90 first, and you need 89+ for Coren in any case) |
| 14:40.53 | Amarande | 3) that Brewfest ends on a Saturday night, meaning there's probably going to be quite a lot of players active during the last hours of it ... |
| 14:41.33 | Amarande | Semlar: it would, or at least if it was tied to your home server time zone regardless of CRZ, but are they? |
| 14:42.14 | Amarande | Things with a fixed ticking duration don't regain extra time if you get sent to an earlier server time or lose it if you're sent to a later one, but do things that require an event disappear if you get CRZed out of the event window (East Coast to West during the first few hours or West to East during the last)? |
| 14:42.18 | Semlar | i would have to assume they're tied to the server you've crossed onto but that's purely speculation |
| 14:42.19 | Dagmar | 1. What is CRZ? |
| 14:42.28 | Amarande | Dagmar: cross-realm zones |
| 14:42.32 | Dagmar | 2. Who the hell cares since the event is going on a full week longer than usual |
| 14:42.58 | Semlar | we're also talking about a difference of at most 3 hours |
| 14:42.59 | Amarande | we're wondering if there's going to be a lot of people losing their brewfest tokens unexpectedly early on the last night due to crossing from a West to an East Coast server with the resultant 3 hour time jump |
| 14:43.16 | Dagmar | I doubt that |
| 14:43.19 | Amarande | Semlar: except they're 3 of the most active hours among the playerbase, now that holidays end at 2359 instead of 0600 |
| 14:43.29 | Dagmar | Either way they _got_ three hours on the front side of that |
| 14:44.02 | Amarande | I know there's already been plenty of grumbles from West Coasters unable to access the Darkmoon Faire on Saturday evening because Elwynn was CRZed to East Coast and the portal was duly no longer there |
| 14:44.27 | Semlar | i don't see how anyone could be losing any hours to it |
| 14:44.42 | Semlar | if you're losing hours on one end due to crz you're gaining them on the other |
| 14:45.13 | Semlar | am i wrong? |
| 14:45.25 | Amarande | Semlar: OTOH, it's towards the end of the event where you're likely to have quite a lot of event-specific items that despawn after it ends |
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| 14:45.54 | Amarande | and, presumably, they DON'T come back when you return to Stormwind and it's still event time :S |
| 14:46.00 | Torhal | Holy shit, you're still going on about CRZ? |
| 14:46.04 | Torhal | dies. |
| 14:46.28 | Amarande | Torhal: Archy's still giving the font glitch, btw. |
| 14:46.40 | Semlar | he can't talk, he's dead |
| 14:46.40 | Torhal | Urk. |
| 14:47.03 | Dagmar | This is sounding a bit like the "OMG CRZ will kill mining" |
| 14:47.35 | Amarande | Same symptoms as before. Open Archy guide box, fonts are as you'd expect with your addon setup. Close it, open it again, it's back to Friz Quadrata until you reloadui. |
| 14:47.52 | Amarande | Other than that, it works just lovely. :) |
| 14:48.05 | Torhal | Oh, that. It'll go away as soon as I can be arsed to rewrite the GUI in Lua. |
| 14:48.14 | Amarande | Dagmar: there's no such thing as temporary ore, heh |
| 14:48.19 | Torhal | So much fragility due to the XML GUI. |
| 14:49.04 | pompy | Torhal does archy use the monochrome font? |
| 14:49.11 | Amarande | there's probably plenty of such things as people thinking "okay, I have three hours left, I can get a few more tokens ... OH HELL NO MY TOKENS JUST ALL DESPAWNED WTF. oh crap it's after 12 in Elwynn ... crap ... no ..." |
| 14:49.26 | pompy | .... |
| 14:49.28 | Torhal | pompy: I haven't looked at that portion of the code in so long I don't even know. |
| 14:49.35 | Semlar | well your tokens aren't going to despawn because you're in a crz |
| 14:50.48 | Amarande | Semlar: well, I mean, what happens in that scenario being, it was well within the final evening of the event in Stormwind, but then when you moved to Elwynn, due to CRZ, it was after midnight, and since the tokens are tagged with Requires Brewfest and it's no longer Brewfest at that point where you are, that's when I'm wondering about them despawning early |
| 14:50.49 | Semlar | do they even despawn at all |
| 14:51.00 | Amarande | yes. Brewfest Tokens have a "requires Brewfest" tag on them |
| 14:51.13 | Semlar | i had my crappy brewfest tokens in my inventory for at least a year before |
| 14:51.15 | Amarande | items that have a "requires (event)" tag auto-despawn when the applicable event has ended |
| 14:51.35 | Semlar | interesting |
| 14:51.39 | Amarande | http://www.wowhead.com/item=37829 |
| 14:51.44 | Arrowmaster | no they dont, i had some armor item in my inventory from one of the events i could only equip during the event |
| 14:52.06 | Amarande | hm. ever since they put that tag on tokens, I've noticed mine automatically vanish once brewfest ends |
| 14:52.34 | Semlar | i'm surprised they haven't been made into a currency |
| 14:52.43 | Amarande | yeah, I'm surprised of that too |
| 14:52.53 | Amarande | or that they're so focused on having them be good for one year's event only |
| 14:53.55 | Amarande | or on making the number you can get compared to the number needed to buy everything be so tight (in most years, there's the extended Brewfest this year, but I'm sure that's because they wanted to give people a better shot at the mounts knowing they need to go grind out four or five levels in Pandaria to qualify for Coren, and that the event came right on the heels of the expansion) |
| 14:55.28 | Amarande | I'm thinking in comparison to LOTRO, particularly (which has token based stuff for EVERY seasonal event) - tokens never expire (although they can't usually be redeemed while the event isn't on, either, except that you can still trade in Anniversary tokens for Marks (LOTRO's JP/VP equivalent)), and they also make it much easier to get a lot of tokens quickly |
| 14:56.16 | Amarande | they usually have a special PvP-based tavern brawl event every time, where you can pretty much get up to 3 tokens every 10-15 minutes or so (and on top of that the players usually actively cooperate to help everyone there get their rewards) |
| 15:03.57 | Semlar | http://uploads.ru/i/z/n/7/zn7iZ.jpg i feel like the skull with the eyepatch on this installer should make me reconsider blindly hitting accept |
| 15:04.19 | Torhal | DEW EET |
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| 15:04.25 | Semlar | yeah that's not going to stop me |
| 15:04.48 | Semlar | it's an ereader what could go wrong |
| 15:05.23 | Semlar | >_> |
| 15:06.11 | Amarande | In Soviet Russia, software installs you? |
| 15:06.19 | Amarande | (hey, it had to be said, given the language :P) |
| 15:07.18 | Semlar | i might end up like the jolly roger over here |
| 15:07.44 | Amarande | although, when I first thought of software that had a skull icon, the first thing I actually thought of was the Baldur's Gate games |
| 15:08.11 | Amarande | ... speaking of which, someday, I need to actually get together the patience to finish BG1 without cheating |
| 15:08.14 | Amarande | I still never have :S |
| 15:13.02 | Kraps | i'm only getting quest rewards for my active spec! |
| 15:13.15 | Kraps | dis is bad - Heavy |
| 15:17.15 | Semlar | we must push little cart |
| 15:19.46 | Torhal | Drive-by AddOn-pimping: I just put out the first release of PetTheory. |
| 15:20.06 | Torhal | Still pending on WoWI though :/ |
| 15:20.15 | Amarande | Kraps: hm. it takes spec into account too? I thought it was just based on class, at least that's how wowhead seemed to indicate it |
| 15:20.30 | Amarande | btw, is MainTankadin actually out of its mind, or is this really the truth? |
| 15:20.50 | Amarande | that the godliness of the prot pally leveling up has been dethroned, and it's actually better to level as ret now and pick up prot at 30 when you get dual spec? |
| 15:21.52 | Kraps | Torhal what does it do |
| 15:22.10 | Torhal | Kraps: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info21696-PetTheory.html |
| 15:22.14 | Torhal | Moo. |
| 15:22.34 | Kraps | oh wow thats great |
| 15:22.45 | Kraps | replaces at least 2 others |
| 15:23.39 | Torhal | It won't do all that stuff until it's approved, though |
| 15:23.51 | Torhal | The last beta which lacks all the PetJournal improvements is what's there now. |
| 15:25.14 | Semlar | $1,172,143 pledged of $100,000 goal |
| 15:25.40 | Semlar | i think they may have reached it |
| 15:25.53 | Adys | ffffs |
| 15:25.53 | Kraps | pearlfin aqualyte /headdeskheaddeskheaddeskheaddeskheaddesk |
| 15:25.54 | Adys | ffs* |
| 15:26.06 | Adys | what is it with blizzard thinking intellect is a healer-only stat |
| 15:26.14 | Adys | its fucking impossible to find dps trinkets with int |
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| 15:28.15 | Amarande | hm. cata had a few decent ones, like the witching hourglass or the talisman of sinister order type ones |
| 15:29.36 | Amarande | yeah, there's still things like http://www.wowhead.com/item=87175 |
| 15:30.39 | Amarande | or http://www.wowhead.com/item=79331 or http://www.wowhead.com/item=89081 |
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| 15:31.01 | Amarande | or in general: http://www.wowhead.com/items=4.-4?filter=minrl=90;maxrl=90;cr=23;crs=1;crv=0 |
| 15:31.28 | Amarande | there do seem to be an awful lot of healer/spirit ones though. |
| 15:31.53 | Amarande | I remember when I was leveling up in cata that irritated me as well, quite a lot of the time the only caster cloth upgrade would be a cursed spirit piece instead of a real mage DPS piece |
| 15:35.28 | Amarande | then again, healers probably need good gear more than us dps folks, especially in the beginning |
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| 15:39.45 | nevcairiel | there is one in dungeon heroics, and at least two in the first raid tier |
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| 15:42.09 | karl_w_w | whats so special about int anyway |
| 15:44.42 | Amarande | karl: I'm guessing you don't play casters much :) |
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| 15:53.39 | Thunder_Child | ~staple Funkeh` |
| 15:53.40 | purl | ACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples Funkeh` quite well, and hands Funkeh` to thunder_child |
| 15:54.30 | Amarande | but yes, trinkets are a somewhat of a PITA slot lately |
| 15:54.35 | Funkeh` | meh |
| 15:54.39 | Amarande | perhaps more grating given that they're the reason I still can't do Theramore on my mage :P |
| 15:55.12 | Amarande | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/ysera/Kiruna/advanced ... really all I need is a trinket upgrade for 353 :S |
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| 16:04.40 | Kraps | this quest reward thing is disturbing me |
| 16:06.43 | Amarande | Kraps: how so? |
| 16:07.06 | Amarande | the only thing that could perhaps bother one about it is wondering if the quest rewards have sufficiently different vendor values that some classes end up noticeably poorer than others by the time they hit 90 :S |
| 16:07.12 | Amarande | and that's likely not to be really significant |
| 16:08.37 | Amarande | although I would have personally designed it so as to offer, if you don't want any of your class's appropriate rewards for that quest, the option of taking gold equal to what the most valuable of all the potential rewards (for any class) would have vendored for |
| 16:09.07 | Kraps | why would i care about vendor value |
| 16:09.13 | Kraps | seriously |
| 16:09.29 | Kraps | you nitpick on the weirdest thing |
| 16:09.31 | Kraps | s |
| 16:09.59 | Amarande | Kraps: with how many ghastly expensive things there are this expansion, it helps to be a miser :) |
| 16:10.44 | foxlit | what are people using for all the Lorewalker achievements? |
| 16:10.58 | Amarande | e.g., remember how people felt the Cenarion War Hippogryph was expensive back in the day? a plain yak costs 50% more than that, and that's not counting the fact that you're getting 20% off the hippogryph (because it's from a rep vendor and you *have to* be Exalted to buy it, so you can never pay full price) |
| 16:11.14 | Amarande | and that's at the cheap end of things, heh |
| 16:11.41 | Dagmar | If you want to fuss about something being inequal, fuss about leatherworking. |
| 16:11.41 | Dagmar | Mail armor materials are rare. Leather armor materials are common as dirt |
| 16:11.41 | Dagmar | That's approaching "batshit" levels of crazy |
| 16:12.14 | Dagmar | You've seen the black market vendor then, I take it? |
| 16:12.18 | ZorbaGama | amarande, that's sort of like talking about how easy raid content used to be based on the fact that you can solo it at 90, though. the scale has changed dramatically since then |
| 16:12.38 | Amarande | Yeah, I've always shook my head at the mats requirements for LW, although I will grind it out one of these alts |
| 16:12.54 | Amarande | I believe I've usually quipped it as things like "1-300 alone requires enough leather, probably, to outfit every BDSM dungeon in New England several times over." |
| 16:13.43 | Dagmar | Oh yeah, I could have opened my own internet site to sell "specialised clothing for discriminating tastes" if I'd wanted but... |
| 16:14.04 | Amarande | I've always felt it gets better after 300, though, if only because then there aren't so many different tiers of leather to worry about |
| 16:14.16 | Dagmar | Making two full sets of lether armor and three _pieces_ of mail from all the skinning over several hours? |
| 16:14.17 | Amarande | you need lots of knothide? not so bad, since you know everything in Outland will yield it |
| 16:14.33 | nevcairiel | foxlit: a bunch of tomtom macros found in wowhead comments, was easy enough to just fly everywhere |
| 16:14.34 | Dagmar | That kinda excludes crfted mail as "reasonably priced" for this expansion |
| 16:14.46 | Amarande | you need lots of (old world leather)? have fun with the fact that most mobs in the old world seem to like to drop randomly between two tiers of leather, and Murphy's Law invariably says you'll preferentially get the wrong one :) |
| 16:15.57 | Amarande | on top of it is the fact that farming is mandatory for LWs, because you'll never find anywhere near enough even if you have infinite gold and buy out every piece of leather the AH has :) |
| 16:16.04 | Amarande | but hey, mail armour gets its revenge |
| 16:16.23 | Amarande | just ask me or one of my ICC buddies. we had mail armour drop practically all the time during our raids back in LK |
| 16:16.47 | Amarande | (the kicker of course being that we only had a shaman with us once every two or three weeks or so on average, and I think we only had a hunter like, once the entire time we raided :P) |
| 16:20.30 | Amarande | bah. still no useful or affordable trinket upgrades on the AH |
| 16:20.48 | Amarande | but good deals on two cross-faction cooking recipes I still need. yay. :) |
| 16:42.59 | Kraps | how do you deal with the room of elementals in the brewery |
| 16:43.31 | karl_w_w | <Amarande> karl: I'm guessing you don't play casters much :) <- my main is a mage |
| 16:43.38 | karl_w_w | question stands |
| 16:45.45 | Amarande | karl: you don't go out of your way to stack int on your mage? |
| 16:46.04 | karl_w_w | we're talking about trinkets here |
| 16:46.10 | karl_w_w | and no i dont |
| 16:46.19 | karl_w_w | i go out of my way to get the best gear I can |
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| 16:50.49 | Amarande | hm. the crafted mail thing makes me think that the astute thing to do, planning an alt of every class, would be to level a skinner/herbalist or skinner/miner before starting the skinner/LW, in order to have twice the mats to work with |
| 16:51.06 | Amarande | I have definitely noticed that the large surplus of herbs from my alchemist, for instance, are making my scribe's profession leveling go that much more smoothly |
| 16:51.28 | Amarande | aaaaand so I feel rather sheepish |
| 16:51.32 | Amarande | "crz was going to run gathering" |
| 16:52.09 | Amarande | *ruin |
| 16:52.11 | Kraps | guess its my fault for not starting the fight sooner |
| 16:52.18 | Kraps | "faggot" |
| 16:52.26 | Kraps | "no heals" |
| 16:52.31 | Kraps | "no dps" |
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| 16:52.59 | Kraps | wtb 1 internet strangle device |
| 16:53.17 | Amarande | Kraps: nobody ever accepts blame in a PUG, ever notice that? |
| 16:54.01 | Amarande | it's fun when you're heals and you wipe because the tank does things like rush ahead in areas where LoS is a particular problem (like the first boss area in sfk) and goes down like a sack of bricks, then pulls too many trash and goes down like a sack of bricks |
| 16:54.07 | Amarande | and all he does is try to claim the heals weren't good enough :p |
| 16:54.11 | Thunder_Child | s/strangle/stabbing/ |
| 16:54.25 | Amarande | (why yes, this occurred to me in sfk yesterday on the druid.) |
| 16:54.50 | Amarande | heh, and he would go on to insist that his healer monk buddy (tank was also a monk, if that matters) was always able to heal him |
| 16:55.33 | Amarande | despite the fact that all I ever hear about low level monk healing is that it's somewhat touchy and requires a lot of prayers to the (not-in-game) gods to succeed in tough places |
| 16:58.01 | Amarande | (apparently if you go heal spec on a monk, you only get *one* heal spell till 30 and it's a HoT to boot?) |
| 16:58.26 | Amarande | a channeled HoT, no less |
| 16:58.55 | Amarande | compare to e.g. resto druids, who have no less than four healing choices by level 20 |
| 16:59.43 | Amarande | <3 druid healing |
| 17:01.17 | Kraps | uh? http://www.wowhead.com/spells=7.10 |
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| 17:02.03 | Kraps | look at all those heals |
| 17:03.41 | Amarande | Kraps: what I've been hearing from people who have started heals monks is all they get for the first 20-30 levels or so is the channeled Soothing Mist |
| 17:03.49 | Amarande | then they get a whole passel of heals from 30-45 or so |
| 17:04.13 | Amarande | compared to resto druids, where you have rejuv, swiftmend, nourish, and regrowth all by 20 |
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| 17:04.32 | Amarande | not that nourish is usually useful, but it's there, anyway |
| 17:04.46 | Amarande | there seems to be a glyph that makes it suck less, too, though I need 5 more levels on my druid to get glyphs |
| 17:06.19 | Vladinator | a suggestion foxlit |
| 17:06.31 | Amarande | but hey, this is another reason to be glad my druid is resto and my monk will have a beer habit :) |
| 17:06.40 | Vladinator | spade is nice but I am curious if one could make it auto delete the crop items once you leave the ranch? :p |
| 17:06.44 | Vladinator | they take bag space ;D |
| 17:08.31 | Vladinator | math related question, anyone good with coordinate systems? |
| 17:08.48 | foxlit | Personally, I'd eat the bag space loss and not have the annoyance of picking them up each time |
| 17:08.58 | Kraps | crap, look at those tank abilities |
| 17:09.12 | Vladinator | I'll ask anyway, I got 5 coordiantes forming a zone, how can I determine if I am inside those coordinates or not? |
| 17:09.42 | foxlit | Don't know whether you can delete items without user interaction -- would someone be upset if I delete their epics instead of their gardening tools by mistake? :) |
| 17:09.51 | Vladinator | you can |
| 17:09.52 | Vladinator | :D |
| 17:10.08 | Vladinator | but not with PickupItem |
| 17:10.18 | Vladinator | must use PickupContainerItem |
| 17:11.12 | Arrowmaster | there is now a 3.5GB game for android...... holy shit thats a lot of space |
| 17:12.03 | foxlit | Vladinator: how do 5 points form a zone? :) |
| 17:12.28 | Vladinator | like http://www.emanueleferonato.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/triangle.png only I got 5 nodes and you can imagine a line between all of them forming an area :P |
| 17:12.36 | Vladinator | the gray stuff that is |
| 17:12.44 | Amarande | on a related point: as a healer, I always have, still, and ever shall hate stairs with a burning passion |
| 17:12.47 | Vladinator | but I think I am onto something, http://www.emanueleferonato.com/2012/06/18/algorithm-to-determine-if-a-point-is-inside-a-triangle-with-mathematics-no-hit-test-involved/ :P |
| 17:12.47 | foxlit | see, with three points, it's unambiguous. |
| 17:12.54 | Amarande | Arrow: yowch. |
| 17:13.00 | foxlit | If you've got 5, I can draw quite a few shapes through them. |
| 17:13.17 | Amarande | hell, they could probably get cell providers to sponsor the development of a game like that :) |
| 17:13.27 | Amarande | I mean, just think about all the overages they'll collect from people downloading it |
| 17:13.36 | Arrowmaster | http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/09/20/review-the-bards-tale-is-3-5gb-of-awesome-quests-laughs-and-cleavage/ |
| 17:15.07 | Arrowmaster | my 16gb nexus7 is already running low on space from all the huge games, i doubt i even have enough room for the hires pack of that |
| 17:15.43 | Arrowmaster | oh i do, still got 6.8GB free |
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| 17:38.30 | Guest37786 | I failed to identify |
| 17:38.36 | Guest37786 | I LOGGED IN USING WEBCHAT |
| 17:38.48 | AcidWeb | We are proud. |
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| 17:39.06 | Guest37786 | it should not be possible to fail to log in on webchat |
| 17:39.19 | nevcairiel | ~failrik |
| 17:39.20 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
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| 17:50.53 | bluspacecow | ~lolrik |
| 17:51.50 | mckenziemc | ~failspacecow |
| 17:52.07 | nevcairiel | its blufailcow |
| 17:52.51 | karl_w_w | ~nevfailiel |
| 17:53.52 | Mike-N-Go | When does WoW UI Development happen in the room called #WoWUIDev? |
| 17:54.45 | AcidWeb | When the constellations are the right places |
| 17:55.02 | nevcairiel | obviously development happens in your editor |
| 17:55.24 | Shirik | new visual studio plugin idea: IRC client |
| 17:55.51 | Shirik | development teams could have their own IRC server |
| 17:55.57 | Shirik | and you would have integrated chat within the team |
| 17:55.59 | Elkano | DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! |
| 17:56.05 | Shirik | a company could have an IRC server and each team would have their own channel |
| 17:56.14 | Shirik | so you need to ask someone from another team something, you jump into their channel and ask |
| 17:56.18 | Shirik | I love this idea |
| 17:56.41 | Elkano | and if you need to ask someone from your own team at the desk next to you, just drop them a query |
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| 18:01.06 | Arrowmaster | for the android users http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/10pvoi/nova_launcher_prime_on_sale_today_for_025/ |
| 18:04.07 | Shirik | Elkano: If I were to go to the desk next to me, that's really annoying to get up |
| 18:04.10 | Shirik | and I have to take my headphones off |
| 18:04.13 | Shirik | and I have to lock my computer |
| 18:04.24 | Shirik | and then I have to get him to take his headphones off |
| 18:04.34 | nevcairiel | just do it for him |
| 18:05.06 | nevcairiel | also, we have xmpp at work, direct messaging is really the most of it you need =p |
| 18:05.27 | Shirik | yeah we actually have outlook communicator |
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| 18:13.23 | karl_w_w | im tired |
| 18:13.31 | karl_w_w | who wants to level my mage for me? |
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| 18:18.16 | Vladinator | foxlit: hey :D |
| 18:18.20 | Vladinator | I think I am done ;) |
| 18:19.58 | Vladinator | http://pastebin.com/CyfuV5u2 |
| 18:20.24 | Vladinator | it takes a list of coordinates and groups them in tripplets then scans to see if our position is inside a triangle, if none match then false, otherwise true ;) |
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| 18:24.53 | pompy | [02:13:52 PM]Congratulations, you have reached [Level 90]! .. about damn time. |
| 18:24.59 | kd3 | good grief |
| 18:24.59 | kd3 | loot an object, get 100 gold and 500k xp |
| 18:24.59 | kd3 | <3 |
| 18:25.10 | pompy | yaeh i got two of them |
| 18:25.22 | Vladinator | foxlit: does spade have to work in the background when we aren't in halfhill? ;) |
| 18:26.29 | pompy | ~wowitem 86472 |
| 18:26.29 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=86472 http://www.wowdb.com/item.aspx?id=86472 |
| 18:26.31 | pompy | that one |
| 18:27.01 | pompy | ~wowitem 86517 |
| 18:27.01 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=86517 http://www.wowdb.com/item.aspx?id=86517 |
| 18:27.04 | pompy | and that one! |
| 18:27.15 | kd3 | there's apparently a whole bunch. I need to get them all documented somewhere |
| 18:27.33 | Shirik | hold up |
| 18:27.36 | Shirik | The All Nippon Airways Co. (ANA) issued a public apology on Wednesday over a near-accident involving one of its passenger planes on Sept. 6 because a pilot pressed the rudder trim control button instead of the one unlocking the cockpit door causing the plane to nearly flip over. |
| 18:27.38 | Shirik | what? |
| 18:27.43 | Shirik | Why are those two even remotely near each other |
| 18:28.15 | pompy | gg |
| 18:29.51 | Gnarfoz | kd3: yeah, those are kind of awesome :D |
| 18:30.59 | foxlit | Vladinator: it's cheaper to work in the background everywhere than have to figure out when you're at the farm. |
| 18:34.35 | Vladinator | does it at least check that you are in valley of the four winds? :P |
| 18:35.00 | Vladinator | since all you need is to check the areaid and fire each entering world and major zone change events ;3 |
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| 18:37.24 | Yoshimo | what are these items pompy? |
| 18:37.35 | Yoshimo | archaeology projects? |
| 18:37.36 | pompy | random lootable |
| 18:37.38 | pompy | nah |
| 18:37.54 | pompy | http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/resized/321774.jpg |
| 18:38.37 | Yoshimo | so rare objects across the world? |
| 18:38.58 | pompy | treasures that dont count towards the achievement! |
| 18:41.25 | Yoshimo | i hope there is a list of all these somewhere :) |
| 18:43.51 | pompy | http://www.wowhead.com/items=15.0?filter=qu=0;cr=82:166:64;crs=2:5:1;crv=40304:0:1000000 |
| 18:46.01 | pompy | Yoshimo: achievement wise, some have started .. http://www.wowhead.com/achievement=7281#comments:id=1722177 |
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| 18:51.21 | Yoshimo | do these flags mean you can only get one of them? |
| 18:54.16 | Gnarfoz | 3x integer overflow attempting to store 4294967295 |
| 18:54.17 | Gnarfoz | wtf |
| 18:54.23 | Amarande | guh, I thought for a moment my new graphics card was malfunctioning ... it was just my soda glass being right in front of the spot where my hearthstone is hotbuttoned and making it look all swirled out |
| 18:58.17 | karl_w_w | I once overflowed an integer |
| 18:58.54 | karl_w_w | but Fisker was there to take care of it |
| 18:59.59 | Shirik | flight before mine just got canceled |
| 19:00.01 | Shirik | lucky |
| 19:01.01 | karl_w_w | maybe they're just cancelling them in chronological order :P |
| 19:01.11 | Shirik | no, the plane's window is cracked :P |
| 19:01.39 | karl_w_w | and now they have to check all the planes for the defect |
| 19:01.46 | Shirik | thwacks karl_w_w |
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| 19:13.34 | p3lim | Looking for a good texture to represent the state "All" |
| 19:13.46 | p3lim | Anyone know a good one? |
| 19:13.53 | zenzelezz | "all" in which context? |
| 19:14.03 | p3lim | Any context |
| 19:14.11 | p3lim | I've been using an alliance texture for now |
| 19:15.09 | p3lim | http://wow.zamimg.com/images/wow/icons/large/achievement_pvp_a_a.jpg |
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| 19:32.51 | Fisker | hey KarlKFI |
| 19:33.14 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 19:36.58 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
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| 19:44.18 | Shirik | waves at Iriel |
| 19:44.24 | Iriel | Lo |
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| 19:57.45 | Vladinator | grouped with spanish people, no one speaks enlish to me |
| 19:58.07 | Kraps | man leveling pets is so grindy |
| 19:58.14 | Shirik | omg no it's not |
| 19:58.29 | Kraps | omg yes it is |
| 19:58.36 | Shirik | I am so amazed that anyone in WoW can say ANYTHING is a grind |
| 19:58.42 | Shirik | people need to play more korean MMOs |
| 19:59.00 | Kraps | i'm saying pet leveling is :/ |
| 19:59.12 | Shirik | if you spend 8 hours a day doing it |
| 19:59.18 | Shirik | will you make more than 5% of a level? |
| 19:59.22 | Kraps | just like (i assume) real pokemon is! |
| 19:59.28 | Shirik | I shouldn't say 8 hours |
| 19:59.30 | Shirik | like 12 |
| 19:59.34 | Kraps | :/ |
| 19:59.37 | Shirik | 12 hours = 5% of one level? |
| 19:59.41 | Kraps | is that a real thing |
| 19:59.48 | Shirik | oh it gets better |
| 19:59.50 | Shirik | dying = lose 20% |
| 20:00.00 | Shirik | and yes, that is a real thing |
| 20:00.04 | Shirik | and I loved that game |
| 20:01.56 | Shirik | I guess I shouldn't be complaining, Kraps, I've been playing MechWarrior Online and those people have been complaining about the "grind" |
| 20:02.06 | Shirik | and I'm like "dude this is like a day's worth of effort, go play wow" |
| 20:02.09 | Shirik | and I don't think wow is a grind |
| 20:02.39 | Kraps | dunno anything about MechWarrior Online |
| 20:02.49 | Shirik | I'm just saying that's where my anger actually comes from :P |
| 20:03.34 | Kraps | you need to find balance or something |
| 20:03.39 | Kraps | ask a panda guy |
| 20:03.55 | Shirik | for the record I haven't played MoP |
| 20:04.09 | Kraps | why |
| 20:04.22 | Shirik | aside from the fact that I was (am) on Business Travel since it came out |
| 20:04.26 | Shirik | I also haven't bought it yet |
| 20:05.47 | Kraps | 2 things annoy me |
| 20:06.22 | Kraps | the "kill 10 things and fins 3 quest items" thing has returned with a vengeance |
| 20:07.01 | Kraps | and the spec-specific quest rewards |
| 20:07.08 | Shirik | find mountain lion blood? |
| 20:07.44 | xyphoid | i'm kind of on the fence, i do love the less aggressive breadcrumbing |
| 20:08.09 | xyphoid | it's nice to be able to just wander and find quests there instead of 'sorry you haven't done quests 1-92 in this zone yet' |
| 20:09.07 | Kraps | when does that happen |
| 20:10.16 | xyphoid | i found it happening in jade forest |
| 20:10.20 | xyphoid | but especially past that |
| 20:10.37 | xyphoid | kun-lai i've done like 3 quests at the start and then just set out for flight points |
| 20:10.48 | xyphoid | and have found short chains at each one |
| 20:10.53 | Kraps | ah |
| 20:12.50 | Kraps | i still dont get what i'm supposed to do with dps-only gear rewards if my main spec is prot |
| 20:23.38 | Dagmar | Maybe switch specs when you turn in the quest |
| 20:26.28 | xyphoid | i assume they just assume you're questing and need dps gear |
| 20:28.08 | Kraps | Dagmar, ive done that |
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| 20:42.17 | nevcairiel | so the npc only has dps gear, what you gonna do, scream at him for not stocking up on tank gear instead? :P not every quest yields a useful item, for every class/spec |
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| 20:48.11 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel, bt custom conditionals... how do I make a bar show up only in combat? o_O [combat] doesn't work, [nocombat] doesn't do what I expect :D |
| 20:48.27 | nevcairiel | [combat]show;hide ? :d |
| 20:50.11 | Kraps | no nevcairiel, when i make prot my active spec the reward changes |
| 20:50.37 | nevcairiel | how the f' is it supposed to know for which spec you want th gear? :P |
| 20:50.49 | nevcairiel | so it uses the one you play with |
| 20:51.20 | Kraps | im not going to quest as prot, give a choice for both ! :p |
| 20:52.39 | Kraps | a shammy in the guild said they've gotten choices |
| 20:53.10 | Kraps | out of a bunch of quests thats only happened once to me :( |
| 20:53.24 | nevcairiel | a warrior does not have enough intellect to choose the correct item |
| 20:53.49 | Kraps | wow that is just... |
| 20:53.54 | Kraps | mhhhff |
| 20:53.57 | nevcairiel | my druid usually got the choice between a int or a agi item :p |
| 20:54.23 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: doesn't work? :< |
| 20:54.33 | nevcairiel | you're doing it wrong |
| 20:54.40 | Gnarfoz | you're explaining it wrong! |
| 20:54.53 | nevcairiel | thousands have managed before you! |
| 20:55.01 | Gnarfoz | I highly doubt that |
| 20:55.02 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:55.18 | Gnarfoz | it just says use macro conditionals and bar number as target |
| 20:55.27 | Gnarfoz | so it should be [combat] 7; 0? |
| 20:55.36 | nevcairiel | thats not the one for showing or hiding |
| 20:55.37 | Gnarfoz | or [nocombat]0;7 |
| 20:55.40 | nevcairiel | thats the one for paging :P |
| 20:55.45 | Gnarfoz | there's another one o_O |
| 20:55.52 | Gnarfoz | oh |
| 20:55.53 | nevcairiel | go to the tab labeled "visibility", because, well, it deals with visibility :P |
| 20:55.53 | Gnarfoz | state... |
| 20:55.55 | Kraps | POINTY END GOES INTO ENEMY or MAKE ENEMY ANGRY all a warrior needs to know though :| |
| 20:56.00 | Gnarfoz | visible or not is a state, too! :P |
| 20:56.44 | nevcairiel | i think there might even be a checkbox for hide in combat or somesuch |
| 20:56.58 | nevcairiel | but i guess you wanted it the other way around |
| 20:56.58 | Gnarfoz | yeah, there is |
| 20:56.59 | Elkano | does anyone know where to learn the skill 600 engineer goggles? |
| 20:57.02 | Gnarfoz | nah, there's for both |
| 20:57.16 | Gnarfoz | hide in combat, hide out of combat, two checkboxes ;) does what I want |
| 20:57.34 | Gnarfoz | I just got confused because I was on the wrong tab |
| 20:58.35 | Kraps | Torhal, pet theory is good to go? |
| 20:59.00 | Torhal | Kraps: Aye. |
| 20:59.32 | Elkano | nah, buggy as hell ;) |
| 20:59.41 | Torhal | :P |
| 20:59.54 | Kraps | does the tooltip show the rarity of the pet |
| 21:00.08 | Kraps | that you are mousing over |
| 21:02.05 | Elkano | in world? no |
| 21:02.17 | Kraps | i though Pet Battle Quality Glow but i guess i misread |
| 21:02.41 | Gnarfoz | is there anything you can do about the tank getting barreled on Coren? :| |
| 21:03.11 | nevcairiel | dunno, but why is it an issue? |
| 21:03.29 | nevcairiel | i never lost a dps to that, not even some clothys |
| 21:05.14 | foxlit | nevcairiel: a 6 second period of nobody tanking? |
| 21:05.32 | Kraps | be a human |
| 21:05.42 | nevcairiel | so the guy runs around, its not like he is the hardest of bosses |
| 21:05.45 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: get someone else to tank the mob. |
| 21:06.11 | Torhal | Kraps, Elkano - YEs. |
| 21:06.12 | foxlit | it's whatever add spawns when he's low on health; barrels the primary threat, I think. |
| 21:06.19 | Torhal | Elkano: :P |
| 21:06.26 | foxlit | nevcairiel: you've done the 90 version, yes? :) |
| 21:06.33 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 21:06.36 | nevcairiel | like i said, never lost a dps |
| 21:06.42 | nevcairiel | (I'm the healer) |
| 21:06.45 | Torhal | Kraps: What about Battle Pet Quality Glow? |
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| 21:07.15 | nevcairiel | he was even easier then the heroic instance bosses |
| 21:07.21 | nevcairiel | and those are already easy =p |
| 21:07.25 | Gnarfoz | hm? |
| 21:07.35 | Gnarfoz | healer barreled is also problematic :D |
| 21:07.42 | nevcairiel | does that happen? |
| 21:07.43 | Kraps | i thought it was supposed to show the rarity of wild critters when you mouse over them Torhal |
| 21:07.57 | foxlit | I think whoever has aggro on that mob gets barreled. |
| 21:08.11 | Torhal | Kraps: No. When you get in combat it does. That information isn't available until then. |
| 21:08.22 | Torhal | You'll know whether or not to capture at that point. |
| 21:08.29 | Kraps | yeah |
| 21:08.43 | Kraps | found a rare fawn :D |
| 21:08.48 | Torhal | Kraps: It tells quality and level of pets you already have. |
| 21:08.49 | nevcairiel | isnt whether or not to capture just a choice of "do i have this thing already, or not?" :p |
| 21:09.03 | Torhal | nevcairiel: No, Poor quality has shit stats compared to Rare |
| 21:09.11 | nevcairiel | its about the collecting! |
| 21:09.17 | Kraps | noooo |
| 21:09.20 | nevcairiel | gotta collect 'em all! |
| 21:09.22 | Kraps | not anymore |
| 21:09.43 | Kraps | http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3495896&pagenumber=9#post408042812 |
| 21:09.50 | Kraps | look at those numbers |
| 21:10.00 | nevcairiel | they require registration just to read |
| 21:10.03 | Torhal | Kraps: If you're using PetJournal Enhanced my AddOn won't do shit because he replace-hooks everything |
| 21:10.03 | nevcairiel | terrible place |
| 21:10.29 | Torhal | Plus mine does what his does better |
| 21:10.30 | Torhal | Heh |
| 21:10.42 | Kraps | huh maybe for the wow related forums |
| 21:10.46 | Fisker | poops on Torhal |
| 21:11.01 | Torhal | assassinates Fisker with past-Fisker. |
| 21:11.21 | Kraps | yeah Torhal like the guy who commented on your thing said, you replace a bunch of stuff |
| 21:11.50 | Kraps | nevcairiel, http://gyazo.com/263d2099facf7f3f42d303df11d063c1.png?1349039023 |
| 21:12.11 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel, foxlit, healer barreled happens, too, whatever the reason or mechanic is. guess I'll keep HoP'ing whoever is second in threat or using DS (if it's me)... and for the second time, I'll just kite him and hope for the best :D |
| 21:12.47 | nevcairiel | Kraps: i never challenged that rare pets are not better, however what stops you from simply collecting every other pet you dont own yet too? :p |
| 21:13.18 | Kraps | well yeah, until you find the rare version :p |
| 21:13.23 | Iriel | Torhal: I was going to create an addon for that myself - thanks for saving me effort 8-) |
| 21:13.35 | Torhal | Hehehe |
| 21:13.51 | nevcairiel | isnt it mostly that some types of pets are rare, or can every type of pet also occur as a rare? |
| 21:14.07 | Iriel | The latter |
| 21:14.09 | Torhal | Random from Poor to Legendary (according to GlobalStrings) |
| 21:14.14 | Iriel | I have had poor and rare squirrels |
| 21:14.19 | Iriel | for example |
| 21:14.29 | nevcairiel | I see |
| 21:14.31 | Iriel | Even within a band there appears to be variation |
| 21:14.39 | nevcairiel | well you just throw away your common pet when you find its rare version =p |
| 21:14.59 | nevcairiel | or call it "release" to be more pet-friendly :p |
| 21:15.06 | Kraps | yeah, like a +health would have -attack |
| 21:15.59 | Kraps | they need to separate the pets ui from the mounts :p |
| 21:19.02 | p3lim | Is there an easy way of getting the player's class texture? |
| 21:19.11 | p3lim | Tried searching for GetPlayerClassTexture, nothing |
| 21:20.11 | Torhal | p3lim: frame:SetTexCoord(unpack(CLASS_ICON_TCOORDS[class])) |
| 21:21.27 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 21:21.37 | Mr_Rabies | i'm still getting MISTS OF PANDORIA BETA INVITATION spam |
| 21:21.40 | Torhal | p3lim: Might help to have the texture: "Interface\\Glues\\CharacterCreate\\UI-CharacterCreate-Classes" |
| 21:22.20 | nevcairiel | glue textures, really? Nothing from the ingame textures? :d |
| 21:24.22 | Torhal | "Interface\\TargetingFrame\\UI-Classes-Circles" |
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| 21:40.23 | Arrowmaster | holy shit my post is on the front page of reddit (for those subscribed to r/android) |
| 21:42.00 | zenzelezz | well... it would appear that upgrading my connection was near instant |
| 21:42.33 | zenzelezz | why I did not know that I could upgrade my uploade from 5 Mbps to 10 Mbps for $7 is beyond me |
| 21:56.03 | Gnarfoz | I wish I had 5 Mbps |
| 21:56.26 | Arrowmaster | i wish i had 1.5 Mbps |
| 21:57.19 | Semlar | i wish i had more wishes |
| 22:05.31 | foxlit | why is my character sheet blatantly lying to me? |
| 22:05.49 | foxlit | "Agility 7,646; Increases Attack Power by 7,636" |
| 22:05.55 | cogwheel | it's what blizzard uis do best |
| 22:05.58 | cogwheel | ducks |
| 22:06.22 | Gnarfoz | base agi doesn't increase AP? |
| 22:06.23 | Gnarfoz | or something |
| 22:06.29 | Gnarfoz | (that'd be weird) |
| 22:06.42 | foxlit | er |
| 22:06.50 | foxlit | it's not my intention that the two numbers mismatch |
| 22:07.05 | foxlit | though they actually do that in game, too |
| 22:07.07 | Gnarfoz | shouldn't they? 1 Agi = 1 AP for your class? |
| 22:07.30 | foxlit | what's non-obvious is why my actual AP is roughly twice that |
| 22:08.17 | foxlit | And why applying a 160 Agi enchant to a ring increases my AP by 320 |
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| 22:09.42 | Dagmar | I don't know how that's non-obvious exactly, |
| 22:09.49 | Gnarfoz | guess your class gets 2 AP from 1 Agi. |
| 22:09.49 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 22:10.06 | Dagmar | I mean they do say flat out the class gains double points from Agility |
| 22:10.30 | foxlit | which class, Dagmar, and where? |
| 22:10.38 | Gnarfoz | it seems you're a hunter, or it's melee AP and you're a rogue, feral druid or shaman |
| 22:10.43 | Dagmar | Hunters, websites, a few years now |
| 22:10.53 | foxlit | yeah, no, guardian druid. |
| 22:11.02 | Gnarfoz | feral |
| 22:11.08 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 22:11.09 | foxlit | in bear form. |
| 22:11.10 | Gnarfoz | well, they made druids actually have 4 specs now |
| 22:11.22 | Gnarfoz | so I should have listed guardian separately |
| 22:11.30 | Gnarfoz | but it's not me who doesn't know his class! :P |
| 22:11.53 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowpedia.org/Agility#Agility btw |
| 22:11.57 | foxlit | Dagmar: "websites" is nice, but I'd still prefer the game wouldn't be wrong by a factor of two :) |
| 22:12.23 | Gnarfoz | it's correct for my rogue. |
| 22:12.37 | foxlit | I fully expect it's only wrong in this particular case. |
| 22:12.54 | Gnarfoz | did you shift while your character frame was open |
| 22:13.20 | foxlit | yes, but that doesn't change the outcome. |
| 22:13.35 | foxlit | plus the "increases Attack Power" line only appears while in the correct form. |
| 22:13.53 | Dagmar | Well, cat & bear |
| 22:13.54 | Gnarfoz | *shrug* whatever |
| 22:14.19 | Gnarfoz | you're smart enough to figure it out yourself anyway :D |
| 22:17.01 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: yes, but I don't expect trickery :) |
| 22:20.37 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: aurapoints? now I'm curious :D what's that going to be? |
| 22:21.10 | Shadowed | It'll be a combo point setup for people who have auras that are charge based |
| 22:21.12 | Shadowed | like arcane charge |
| 22:21.51 | Fisker | ~seen xuerian |
| 22:21.55 | purl | xuerian <~core@173-167-55-220-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 32d 15h 15m 56s ago, saying: 'I wouldn't be surprised'. |
| 22:25.57 | Gnarfoz | cool |
| 22:32.21 | foxlit | I've discovered that I need a better rage bar |
| 22:33.46 | foxlit | torn between looking at character to determine whether I'm standing in a fire, the rage bar to figure out whether I need to get rid of some, to buffs to figure out whether savage defense is up, to action bar to figure out what to do next. |
| 22:33.50 | foxlit | horrible! |
| 22:34.37 | p3lim | Torhal: That works well, thanks |
| 22:34.49 | Torhal | np |
| 22:39.07 | pompy | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6759126030 |
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| 22:40.24 | Gnarfoz | I guess your UI is not very combat friendly, foxlit :D |
| 22:40.43 | foxlit | It's more or less the default UI. |
| 22:40.48 | Gnarfoz | oh well, yeah. |
| 22:40.54 | Gnarfoz | did you move the player frame to the middle? |
| 22:41.48 | foxlit | nope |
| 22:42.02 | Gnarfoz | that's probably a start, so you don't have to go look all over the place |
| 22:42.28 | Gnarfoz | (the default UI sucks since 2004, but at least they made the unit frames moveable in... 2010?! I think it was with 4.0) |
| 22:42.37 | foxlit | but lots of cool stuff is in the middle :/ |
| 22:42.46 | foxlit | like the extraactionbutton :( |
| 22:42.58 | Gnarfoz | :o |
| 22:43.30 | Gnarfoz | playerframe to the left of char, targetframe to the right, EAB is on top of your character anyway |
| 22:43.40 | Gnarfoz | at least that condeses that a bit |
| 22:43.48 | Gnarfoz | sadly, you can't move the blizzard buff frames by default |
| 22:44.04 | Gnarfoz | (but... we ARE in #wowuidev, aren't we :P there's addons for almost anything ^^) |
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| 23:05.55 | foxlit | Should totally start a rumor that the turnip punching bag drops epics when slain |
| 23:06.31 | cbreak | so... I just got a nice offhand umbrella... |
| 23:06.32 | foxlit | gah, it resets to max health after a few seconds. They could've just let it have the 725 million HP :/ |
| 23:06.39 | cbreak | and it doesn't show up when I equip my wand! Lame. |
| 23:13.01 | cbreak | I hope they fix that soon... |
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