| 00:05.57 | Corrodias | some of those are damn pretty, Adys |
| 00:06.19 | Vladinator | GetSize is 0, 0 when I call my code OnShow -_- |
| 00:06.27 | Vladinator | yes I use points, any tips? :P |
| 00:07.01 | Corrodias | use bigger points |
| 00:10.23 | Sintacks | Adys, some of those look awesome |
| 00:10.29 | Adys | I know I do |
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| 00:16.19 | mckenziemc | no Adys |
| 00:16.55 | Cairenn|afk | ~wowxml |
| 00:16.55 | purl | from memory, wowxml is http://fara.webeddie.com/frames |
| 00:17.13 | Cairenn|afk | ~wowapi |
| 00:17.23 | Cairenn|afk | guh, I can't remember |
| 00:17.28 | Adys | !wowapi |
| 00:17.40 | mckenziemc | which are for you looking? |
| 00:17.41 | kd3 | ~framexml |
| 00:17.41 | purl | it has been said that framexml is Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console or open 'World of Warcraft.app' --args -console after game loads press ~ and enter commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 00:18.09 | Cairenn|afk | thanks kd` |
| 00:18.10 | Cairenn|afk | 3 |
| 00:18.14 | kd3 | np |
| 00:36.39 | Amarande | ROFL ... "I fail to understand why they banned totemic cleansing. No one was ever in range, anyways." |
| 00:40.53 | Vladinator | :D |
| 00:43.51 | Amarande | Then there's the one where the guy talks about his vision of shaman hell |
| 00:44.02 | Amarande | where he's forced to heal irate warriors for years on end without seeing a single piece of shaman gear :) |
| 00:45.07 | mikma | cairenn: http://www.geekologie.com/2012/09/minimalist-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtle-l.php |
| 00:45.40 | Cairenn | heh |
| 00:46.12 | mikma | http://www.flickr.com/photos/nurkdursimone/7966932110/in/photostream |
| 00:46.21 | Vladinator | having problem centering my buttons :( |
| 00:46.36 | Vladinator | I know the frame size and button size but having issues making SetPoint properly position them lol ;( |
| 00:46.50 | Vladinator | (so they appear center on frame with a margin value between them) |
| 00:47.13 | mikma | http://www.flickr.com/photos/nurkdursimone/7967205588/in/photostream |
| 00:47.21 | mikma | oh man, i love that sort of creativity |
| 00:48.43 | znf | heh |
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| 01:04.01 | Ressy | dev ama tomorrow on reddit: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/7173054/World_of_Warcraft_Developer_reddit_AMA_Sept_11-9_10_2012 |
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| 01:07.22 | Vladinator | lol this song is funny |
| 01:07.33 | Vladinator | rap is ridiculus ^^ |
| 01:08.54 | Ackis | cool Ressy |
| 01:10.11 | Shirik | I'm trying to find the artist for a Blizzard imag |
| 01:10.17 | Shirik | anyone got a good idea on how to do that? |
| 01:10.36 | Vladinator | hmm |
| 01:10.43 | Amarande | interesting, casters need less hit for raids now but WAY more hit for heroics? |
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| 01:11.30 | Amarande | looks like hit cap for +2 levels has gone up to a whopping 12%, it wasn't anywhere near that pre 5.0 |
| 01:11.40 | Amarande | +3 levels is down to 15%, used to be 17% |
| 01:12.39 | Amarande | that seems a strange change |
| 01:13.54 | Dark_Elf | bah another 8 hour maintenance tomorrow |
| 01:15.40 | TC-Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:15.54 | Shirik | I tried that but I'm not actually getting to any blizzard page |
| 01:16.04 | TC-Work | never said a blizzard page |
| 01:16.15 | Shirik | ok let me rephrase |
| 01:16.28 | Shirik | the only places I'm getting are fansites that offer no credit (aka illegal, but that's another story) |
| 01:16.53 | TC-Work | does the image have a proper name? |
| 01:16.56 | Shirik | wowwiki says it's blizzard's but doesn't offer a source (also illegal, but not going down that road) |
| 01:17.44 | Shirik | I don't believe so, but this is it: http://www.wowwiki.com/File:GarroshCataclysm.jpg |
| 01:17.47 | Shirik | You could call it Garrosh :) |
| 01:18.57 | Shirik | in actuality this is the image I want: http://www.wow-hungary.com/files/wow/GarroshCataclysm.jpg |
| 01:19.04 | Shirik | but there is reason to believe they are the same |
| 01:23.37 | TC-Work | you may have to ask blizz |
| 01:23.42 | TC-Work | assuming they care to answer |
| 01:24.29 | Shirik | on a totally unrelated note, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN-zYxwIimE |
| 01:26.34 | Ressy | different images |
| 01:26.45 | Ressy | the fuzzy image is a crop from another.. |
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| 01:32.50 | Amarande | Dark_Elf, some of us remember the days when 8 hour maintenance was the standard *every* week :) |
| 01:36.19 | Ackis | some of us remember when you had to have maintenance every night! |
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| 01:48.52 | Dark_Elf | lol at all the carbonite bitchin |
| 01:50.15 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:57.57 | kd3 | bitching about carbonite? gasp |
| 01:58.01 | kd3 | I never thought I'd see the day |
| 01:58.50 | Dark_Elf | haha |
| 01:59.11 | Dark_Elf | wow they have taken over pretty much the forum of wowinterface |
| 02:03.39 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:06.34 | Cairenn | Isn't it nice that you can choose to ignore the forum if you want? |
| 02:06.40 | Cairenn | Wish I could :p |
| 02:07.45 | Shirik | you can delete it :D |
| 02:07.51 | Shirik | that's like superignore |
| 02:07.55 | Cairenn | heh |
| 02:07.55 | mckenziemc | hugs Cairenn |
| 02:08.06 | Cairenn | heh, thanks mckenziemc |
| 02:10.40 | Dark_Elf | lol |
| 02:12.08 | Ackis | which forum? wowi ones? |
| 02:13.27 | Dark_Elf | yeah they just upset with the new one |
| 02:15.00 | Amarande | what happened with Carbonite and WoWI? |
| 02:15.27 | Amarande | the only thing I actually saw about it was that laughable post from someone who thought that copyright was only good for the year noted in the copyright notice heh |
| 02:15.29 | Dark_Elf | well carbonite got updated and people are mad cause it broke and not working like the fan update |
| 02:15.52 | Amarande | I'm sure pirates the world over would be very happy if that was actually the case :P |
| 02:16.16 | Amarande | Actually, maybe not. Apparently there's a certain cachet to piracy, the fact that it's "underground" and all that |
| 02:16.41 | Amarande | if copyright only lasted the one year, they wouldn't be pirates anymore, they'd just be another face in the crowd distributing free stuff and there'd be no "leetness" to it :P |
| 02:16.53 | Dark_Elf | well i see lots of code being copied but oh well |
| 02:17.24 | Ackis | http://wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=263089&postcount=22 |
| 02:17.47 | Amarande | OTOH, the Internet might be a lot faster if there weren't so many people wasting bandwidth just to feel like they're getting back at The Man. heh |
| 02:18.50 | Dark_Elf | that was good post, and still people wanted to argue with it |
| 02:18.56 | Ackis | 90% of internet traffic is porn |
| 02:19.14 | Amarande | Ackis: isn't like 50% of internet traffic actually netflix now, or something like that? |
| 02:19.34 | Amarande | hence why cable companies are so ardent about monthly caps |
| 02:19.45 | Amarande | because they want you to purchase PPV movies and not just use netflix all the time :P |
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| 02:20.29 | Amarande | of course, maybe if at any moment in time 90% of the new-release movies that you can actually get on PPV didn't suck, people might be a little more inclined to do that (especially since the newest stuff often isn't on netflix right away) |
| 02:21.16 | Kraps | so new ipods are going to be released soon? |
| 02:21.21 | Kraps | how soon? |
| 02:21.57 | Amarande | "soon"? |
| 02:22.20 | Amarande | just what the world needs, a new generation of iPods ... *heh* |
| 02:22.27 | Ackis | Amarande: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWEjvCRPrCo |
| 02:23.00 | Amarande | actually, I guess it does, given that Apple allegedly designs the batteries in iPods so that the average iPod only lasts a certain number of months before it stops holding charge and you have to purchase a new one (or keep it in dock at all times) |
| 02:23.35 | xyphoid | i heard that amarande was a bot designed by a dentistry conspiracy |
| 02:24.00 | mckenziemc | :O |
| 02:24.16 | Amarande | LIons have a certain maximum number of cycles, of course ... but the popular claim is that Apple actively seeks a specific charge-cycle lifetime on the batteries for iPods based on how often they want you to have to buy a replacement |
| 02:24.30 | Kraps | Amarande, quit quoting from infowars.com or some shit, thanks |
| 02:25.12 | Amarande | What really makes me shake my head though is how often they upgrade the iPhone |
| 02:26.00 | Amarande | They seem to do it every year or so at least, but 1) most people only get a discounted upgrade from their carrier in the US every 18-24 months, and 2) most people also won't buy a smartphone at full price without the carrier upgrade discount (this latter is why the Nexus One never really made it in the market) |
| 02:26.55 | mckenziemc | maybe it's a clue your conspiricy speculation is off the mark |
| 02:27.05 | mckenziemc | but idk, that's just speculation |
| 02:27.26 | pompy | http://www.facebook.com/Warcraft/posts/135844249895764 |
| 02:27.39 | Kraps | their strategy seems to be "flood the market", hasent failed them yet |
| 02:28.09 | Kraps | should i buy a used ipod on amazon |
| 02:28.51 | pompy | if the seller is trusted :O |
| 02:28.53 | Kraps | oh its 9/11 |
| 02:29.16 | mckenziemc | no it isn't |
| 02:29.22 | mckenziemc | not in the relevant country |
| 02:29.25 | pompy | 1.5 hrs to go for me |
| 02:30.39 | Kraps | i mean it will be |
| 02:30.45 | mckenziemc | you'll be dead before then pompy |
| 02:31.20 | Kraps | :O |
| 02:32.23 | Kraps | $17 tax what |
| 02:33.57 | Kraps | whateves |
| 02:42.06 | Adys | GoDaddy's servers are still recovering, but we've since switched to using Amazon's domain name services instead. |
| 02:42.06 | Adys | hehe |
| 02:42.10 | Adys | thats what I like to read |
| 02:43.22 | Adys | i have to say if this was an attack against them, this is amazing work |
| 02:43.53 | Kraps | why is everyone hating on them |
| 02:44.07 | Adys | where have you been the last 10 years? |
| 02:45.08 | Kraps | nowhere |
| 02:46.20 | Adys | Kraps: as far as being an evil corp goes, on a scale of 1-10 they're "zynga" |
| 02:47.00 | Ackis | Adys: who switched dns providers? |
| 02:47.05 | Adys | coursera |
| 02:47.24 | Amarande | Apparently, it had something to do with GoDaddy having expressed support for SOPA and PIPA |
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| 02:47.45 | Adys | uh, it has to do with a fuckload more than that |
| 02:47.58 | Adys | there were around 300 corps backing those |
| 02:48.21 | Kraps | Parnic are you around |
| 02:48.22 | Ackis | the elephant shooting too |
| 02:48.50 | Ackis | the sexist ads |
| 02:48.54 | Adys | the sleazy business tactics |
| 02:48.59 | Adys | the overall shit product and service |
| 02:49.22 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 02:49.43 | Kraps | the ads |
| 02:49.48 | Kraps | were fun! |
| 02:51.23 | Kraps | i thought so! https://www.google.com/search?q=17+percent+of+120&safe=active |
| 02:52.04 | Amarande | Mind you, I'm not precisely sure how it makes a logical protest for them to protest a law that would have allowed rich 1%er businesses to forcibly knock web sites offline ... by forcibly knocking web sites offline |
| 02:52.21 | Amarande | but ... they'll have plenty of time in a federal penitentiary to ponder the illogicality of it once they're caught, I'm sure. :) |
| 02:53.00 | Esamynn | not to pick sides, but you're assuming logical thinking here |
| 02:53.09 | mckenziemc | goto sleep Amarande |
| 02:53.13 | Amarande | (Not to mention given the fact that the USA PATRIOT Act classifies things like DDoS as terrorism, they'll probably be lucky not to go to Gitmo.) |
| 02:53.14 | Esamynn | a rather large mistake, more often than not |
| 02:53.51 | Kraps | the white number is the percent filled, but since rage has been capped at 100 since forever, you could use it as a regular number http://gyazo.com/c782294078e44837d38b50620851f0e4.png?1347330692 |
| 02:54.37 | Kraps | now that you can have 120 rage, it reads more like the percentage it is |
| 02:55.33 | Kraps | i.e. shouts that give you 20 rage = 17% |
| 02:58.17 | starlon | How can I test whether a number is NaN? |
| 02:58.52 | Shirik | a ~= a |
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| 03:00.04 | mckenziemc | lua> Shirik == NaN |
| 03:00.05 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: true |
| 03:00.10 | Shirik | :( |
| 03:00.27 | starlon | heh |
| 03:01.27 | Shirik | this is actually the exact reason compilers are not allowed to optimize out comparisons like `a == a` if a is an IEEE float |
| 03:01.51 | Kraps | pompy, found the restore thing, looks like i never had the bracers or they are ineligible |
| 03:01.54 | Kraps | thanks |
| 03:02.26 | Shirik | there's an automated restore now? |
| 03:02.37 | nebula169 | yar |
| 03:02.43 | pompy | mhm |
| 03:02.43 | kd3 | on the bnet account website |
| 03:02.54 | Kraps | https://us.battle.net/support/en/restoration |
| 03:04.46 | Kraps | Revenge hits 3 targets why am i learning this now |
| 03:04.54 | Stanzilla | best button universe |
| 03:05.02 | Kraps | <--- is the worst tank |
| 03:05.48 | mckenziemc | <--- is the best tank |
| 03:06.26 | Shirik | Random theory question that I should probably know |
| 03:06.48 | Shirik | Is it true that if P!=NP then there is no problem in P that is in NP-complete? |
| 03:07.10 | Shirik | or is it just that not all P problems are NP-complete? |
| 03:08.13 | Kraps | i like that prot warriors have an antimagic shield :D |
| 03:12.32 | Thunder_Child | "Don't miss this style we picked for you: SPANX: WHITTLE WAISTLINE ONE-PIECE BANDEAU SWIMSUIT" I think someone has the wrong idea of me. |
| 03:12.50 | mckenziemc | i don't |
| 03:13.08 | Thunder_Child | yes, but you are not trying to sell me a one-piece swimsuit |
| 03:13.32 | Kraps | do it |
| 03:13.36 | mckenziemc | what's wrong with that |
| 03:13.47 | mckenziemc | i think you'd look nice in one |
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| 03:14.07 | Thunder_Child | men tend not to need any covering in the torso area |
| 03:14.52 | mckenziemc | you're no fun |
| 03:15.12 | Thunder_Child | that is correct |
| 03:15.28 | Kraps | dammit stop using "whilst" |
| 03:15.47 | Esamynn | why? |
| 03:15.48 | mckenziemc | o.O |
| 03:16.24 | nilyaK | is wont to using antiquated words. |
| 03:17.05 | Kraps | because this guys uses it every paragraph |
| 03:18.01 | mckenziemc | maybe he's from the past |
| 03:20.45 | Kraps | yes but why would you come from the past just to write a tanking guide on tankspot? |
| 03:20.56 | Kraps | what a waste of time travel! |
| 03:20.59 | mckenziemc | some people are funny that way |
| 03:21.08 | mckenziemc | maybe he had lots of money to spend |
| 03:23.02 | Shirik | ! |
| 03:23.19 | mckenziemc | oh ok shirik |
| 03:23.41 | Shirik | http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=proof-claimed-for-deep-connection-between-prime-numbers |
| 03:23.55 | nilyaK | whaa? |
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| 03:24.24 | Amarande | heh, lovely how their css apparently can't handle exponents |
| 03:24.36 | Amarande | "16 and 18 - being divisible by 42 and 32, respectively" |
| 03:24.56 | Shirik | yeah |
| 03:25.00 | Shirik | I was about to say the same thing |
| 03:42.03 | Amarande | wow, apparently I don't have to worry about how many other people from other realms might be in Desolace siphoning away the vendor bot cooking recipes |
| 03:42.17 | Amarande | the Super-Seller and Vendor-Tron are apparently bugged and don't show up at all anymore since 5.0.4 |
| 03:52.34 | mckenziemc | >.> |
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| 04:20.06 | Ackis | racism at its finest: http://i.imgur.com/PbswV.jpg lol |
| 04:20.54 | mckenziemc | ~smackis |
| 04:20.54 | purl | ACTION smacks Ackis. |
| 04:21.20 | Ackis | did you click it mckenziemc? |
| 04:21.30 | Shirik | I did actually laugh at this |
| 04:22.06 | mckenziemc | yes |
| 04:22.06 | Cairenn | hah! |
| 04:25.13 | Ackis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAnQQcIncq0 |
| 04:25.25 | Ackis | Morrowind/Skyrim Theme Piano Violin Medley - Taylor Davis and Lara |
| 04:28.25 | Fisker | throws Ackis to the ground |
| 04:29.06 | Ackis | ilu Fisker |
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| 04:57.48 | pompy | http://gamerant.com/valve-electronic-arts-buyout-billion/ |
| 05:08.52 | kd3 | YES! |
| 05:08.58 | kd3 | [Swift White Hawkstrider] GET! |
| 05:08.59 | Shirik | what do you mean yes |
| 05:09.03 | Shirik | that would be the worst thing ever |
| 05:09.03 | Shirik | ok |
| 05:09.05 | Shirik | that's better |
| 05:09.10 | Shirik | I thought you were responding to pompy |
| 05:13.10 | Adys | goezinta |
| 05:13.10 | Adys | Python-based CMS system that uses Google spreadsheets on the back end. |
| 05:13.11 | Adys | It's called goezinta, as in, "The content in this spreadsheet goezinta these web pages." |
| 05:13.22 | Adys | We have a winner, I think |
| 05:16.22 | Shirik | is this for serious? |
| 05:16.49 | Shirik | awesome name |
| 05:18.36 | Cairenn | that is an excellent name |
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| 05:42.40 | Fisker | kicks kd3 |
| 05:46.55 | onyxfox | Can someone give me an abridged layman's version of the point of LibStub? |
| 05:47.27 | kd3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/LibStub |
| 05:47.33 | kd3 | the first sentence more or less sums it up |
| 05:47.37 | bluspacecow | because we can. |
| 05:48.48 | onyxfox | so it's just to prevent old libs from loading if a newer one is also installed, is that about right? |
| 05:49.00 | kd3 | yup |
| 05:49.07 | onyxfox | mk :) |
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| 06:00.10 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 06:00.11 | starlon | does the aoe looting system sort of ruin drop trackers? Mobinfo2 shows a blood of the mountain dropped from the wrong mob. |
| 06:00.35 | Fisker | maybe if it's outdated |
| 06:00.40 | Fisker | mob guid is provided with loot |
| 06:00.43 | durcyn | there's a new function to determine which mob a slot item came from, mobinfo2's probably not using it yet |
| 06:00.50 | starlon | ah |
| 06:00.52 | kd3 | it's not using the new api call. when the loot window's open there's a call that'll tell you which guid dropped the item |
| 06:01.01 | starlon | cool |
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| 06:26.29 | Guest37585 | hello i am new to addon development -- i wnt to know how to run my lua script ... like we compline and run programs |
| 06:26.36 | Guest37585 | want* |
| 06:29.05 | starlon | ~pil |
| 06:29.05 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 06:29.14 | starlon | Guest37585: ^ |
| 06:29.28 | Guest37585 | thanks |
| 06:29.37 | starlon | There's a command line utility you can use. |
| 06:30.00 | Guest37585 | but it their is anyway i can view the output of my addon ? |
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| 06:30.24 | starlon | There's "print" |
| 06:30.29 | starlon | ~api print |
| 06:30.29 | purl | !api print |
| 06:30.29 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'print' can be found at http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-print |
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| 06:31.58 | Guest37585 | ok .. one last things when can i get the wow-apis documentation for download ... i have seen them in wowwiki but i need to print them to i get look at the when programing.. any site or link for that |
| 06:32.26 | kd3 | ~wowprogramming |
| 06:32.27 | purl | [wowprogramming] World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons - http://is.gd/7A3Jx - a book written by Cladhaire (jnwhiteh) and Gazmik, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 06:32.54 | Esamynn | has never understood printed API references, but each to their own |
| 06:33.29 | karl_w_w | Esamynn: they're for when you're coding with a pen & paper :P |
| 06:33.43 | Esamynn | has done that |
| 06:34.59 | Guest37585 | no actually everytime its not posiable to turn on the net as i am on move ... so if offline api documentation can be downloaded |
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| 06:36.14 | karl_w_w | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api_categories is probably the closest thing |
| 06:36.40 | karl_w_w | but it hasnt been updated for 5.0.4 fully |
| 06:39.40 | Guest37585 | i seen the site ... wish their was a way to download it for offline use .... and where i can get 5.0.4 api |
| 06:41.11 | End_ | Someone linked LibStub's wowpedia page earlier and I ended up on Sea's page |
| 06:41.13 | End_ | it's like...whoa |
| 06:41.17 | End_ | that was a long time ago |
| 06:42.02 | karl_w_w | http://www.wowpedia.org/Patch_5.0.4/API_changes |
| 06:42.12 | Guest37585 | thanks |
| 06:47.02 | Guest37585 | one thing just confuse ... someone told earlier i can use the print API for addon output ... can i get more information .. suppose i made a bag addon without logging into wow how can i adjust its screen postion.. or evrytime i had to reload ui for it? |
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| 06:53.39 | Guest37585 | where i can find .bpl viwer? |
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| 08:59.34 | Torhal | https://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma50ynbO3G1qcb5fko1_400.gif |
| 09:00.34 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 09:00.45 | Cairenn | lol |
| 09:01.38 | karl_w_w | why does he feel the need to sneak up them? |
| 09:13.36 | Torhal | That was my thought as well. |
| 09:14.40 | bluspacecow | conondrum sp? |
| 09:14.54 | bluspacecow | conundrum sp ? |
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| 09:21.34 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6521203852#1 |
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| 09:54.11 | starlon | so sad when the server says "15 minutes wtf" |
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| 09:58.46 | karl_w_w | sad? I'd be amazed if it said that |
| 10:03.07 | Sintacks | that was a pro dungeon finish ... boss died when the server said 15 seconds |
| 10:03.17 | Sintacks | loot was rolled for anxd i won seomthuing |
| 10:03.20 | Sintacks | now for sleep |
| 10:06.03 | karl_w_w | pro dungeon? epic oxymoron |
| 10:06.22 | sintAcks | i'm 82 bitch. |
| 10:06.25 | sintAcks | WAT |
| 10:06.28 | sintAcks | i will global you |
| 10:06.29 | sintAcks | lulz |
| 10:06.31 | sintAcks | walks away |
| 10:13.11 | Fisker | btw Stanzilla |
| 10:13.16 | Fisker | looks like they've decoded shit now |
| 10:18.02 | karl_w_w | hey Fisker |
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| 10:37.57 | karl_w_w | as if grep doesnt work on win 8 |
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| 10:49.47 | karl_w_w | well findstr is almost identical |
| 11:04.43 | jnwhiteh | Hey guys |
| 11:04.59 | jnwhiteh | I want to download documentation for 3000+ functions so I can view it offline |
| 11:05.02 | Humbedooh | hey jnwhiteh hey |
| 11:05.11 | jnwhiteh | No, I don't want a book, I want to download terrible webpages. |
| 11:05.34 | Humbedooh | okay then |
| 11:05.37 | Humbedooh | do it |
| 11:05.41 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 11:06.12 | jnwhiteh | mysqldump -uwowprogramming -psekretp4$$ wowprogramming wowprogramming.sql |
| 11:06.14 | jnwhiteh | kthx. |
| 11:07.36 | Humbedooh | if they're using an older mysql, you can just keep retrying till it eventually gives you root access ;> |
| 11:11.43 | jnwhiteh | haha |
| 11:11.55 | jnwhiteh | 14.12 |
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| 11:46.13 | Vladinator | Torhal Adys nevcairiel and so forth, how long does a frame need before GetSize has it's values? I see it's 0,0 when I call it OnShow too. :/ |
| 11:49.45 | Vladinator | if I hooksecurefunc the Show API on the frame the GetSize returns values, but wonder if that's a smart way to do it lol, when OnShow doesn't return any values :P |
| 11:50.17 | Vladinator | nvm ;p |
| 11:50.38 | karl_w_w | onupdate until it returns not zeros? |
| 11:50.49 | Vladinator | same issue |
| 11:50.57 | Vladinator | I was thinking that's the only way left yeah |
| 11:50.59 | Vladinator | but it's so weird :/ |
| 11:55.32 | Semlar | valdinator: OnSizeChanged |
| 11:55.38 | Semlar | vladinator* |
| 11:55.42 | Vladinator | there is such an event? :O |
| 11:55.54 | Vladinator | lol yes |
| 11:56.00 | Vladinator | Ill test |
| 11:56.12 | Semlar | frame:HookScript('OnSizeChanged', function(self, width, height) print('hooky', self:GetSize()) end) |
| 11:56.49 | Semlar | from what i can tell size is available immediately after it's set so you must be checking before it's actually sized |
| 11:57.16 | Vladinator | does this fire before OnShow? |
| 11:57.27 | Semlar | it fires any time the frame's size is changed |
| 11:57.32 | Semlar | for any reason |
| 11:57.40 | Semlar | even if the new size is the same as the old one |
| 11:58.13 | Vladinator | OnSizeChanged fires after OnShow fires |
| 11:58.18 | Vladinator | :3 |
| 11:58.25 | Vladinator | yeah it works with this value |
| 11:58.37 | Vladinator | OnSizeChanged has the parameters that GetSize returns so no need to use GetSize :3 |
| 11:58.54 | Semlar | yeah i was just showing it should be available immediately |
| 12:00.25 | Vladinator | it's odd that size isn't available at onshow, but I guess they just can't have the size changed fire beforehand ;) |
| 12:00.52 | Semlar | whatever frame it is might not be sizing itself until after it's shown |
| 12:00.55 | Vladinator | when using relative sizes using SetPoint topleft/bottomright stuff you need to wait for this event before GetSize has values |
| 12:01.22 | Vladinator | strange thing is it worked on an earlier version of my code, this is the second time I code this to cleanup :P |
| 12:01.28 | Vladinator | then this happened and it was odd ^^ |
| 12:02.01 | Vladinator | but probably to do with the fact before I had one frame and now I have a frame specific for the visual frame stuff, and one frame for background so probably something to do with how stuff are initialized |
| 12:02.29 | Semlar | it's possible it's not in the same order every time |
| 12:03.49 | Vladinator | yes |
| 12:03.54 | Vladinator | so this is much better ;) |
| 12:04.00 | Semlar | i was sizing a fontstring onupdate before based on the frame it was attached to and would only sometimes throw an error because it was getting shown before it had a size |
| 12:04.08 | Vladinator | waiting for OnSizeChanged so its properly made |
| 12:04.15 | Vladinator | yeah |
| 12:04.27 | Vladinator | another funny issue lol :P |
| 12:04.35 | Vladinator | I create the frame at PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 12:04.41 | Semlar | as a side note, apparently you can't set a font's size to 0 without throwing an error |
| 12:05.21 | Vladinator | when I iterate GetBattlegroundInfo and print the name at PLAYER_LOGIN the order is not correct... |
| 12:05.28 | Vladinator | but it is when you do it after >.< |
| 12:05.56 | Vladinator | no logic |
| 12:06.10 | Semlar | i thought the beta was going down today but it's still up right now |
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| 12:13.28 | Vladinator | when I iterate trough the battlegrounds, at login Arathi Basing has index 8 and when I reload the UI it has index 2 |
| 12:13.49 | Vladinator | but I noticed that all BG's that are call to arms get moved up, so this is because it is CtA atm so it gets relocated lol |
| 12:14.21 | Vladinator | so at player_login CtA is unknown and the positions are normal, when CtA is available the game on the C side changes what index is what BG ;) |
| 12:14.44 | AcidWeb | dark magic |
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| 12:16.10 | Vladinator | it does surprise you if you expected indexes to always be the same ;D |
| 12:17.29 | AcidWeb | I wrote to much pvp code to be suprised by pvp api ;p |
| 12:19.08 | Vladinator | hehe |
| 12:19.35 | Vladinator | it seems there are two systems in place, one for world pvp and one for regular, two different ways of joining and such, kind of weird :p |
| 12:19.40 | Vladinator | could unite it all with one interface tbh |
| 12:19.45 | Vladinator | and one set of events |
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| 12:20.04 | Semlar | ha |
| 12:21.51 | Vladinator | random bg button uses same description as AV :P |
| 12:21.54 | Vladinator | copy paste ^^ |
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| 12:24.10 | Vladinator | when WG queue is enabled the WORLD_MAP_UPDATE then UPDATE_WORLD_STATES fired literaly 50 times in total :P |
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| 12:27.53 | AcidWeb | Vladinator: You looking for something specific or just look into the depths of oblivion? |
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| 12:28.15 | Vladinator | making my own frame for pvp (honor based) |
| 12:28.20 | Vladinator | changing the honor tab :P |
| 12:28.27 | AcidWeb | ah |
| 12:28.43 | bluipodcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:28.47 | pompy | "• Includes the biggest map in Battlefield history" doh |
| 12:28.57 | alestane | Well, good morning! |
| 12:29.03 | Vladinator | you probably know of http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info14318-OhNoesQueues.html |
| 12:29.10 | Semlar | after spending the better part of an hour trying to scale the minimap textures to the continent map i'm pretty sure they don't actually line up |
| 12:29.58 | Vladinator | I liked the idea so I made my own, used that kind of layout because I think it's good ;) mine looks like http://i.imgur.com/AaNtW.jpg |
| 12:30.21 | pompy | http://nerdreactor.com/2012/09/10/samsung-to-sue-apple-over-4g-lte-in-the-iphone-5/ booom |
| 12:30.23 | AcidWeb | Vladinator: i use that frame only for queuing. I dont need any additional data there. |
| 12:30.30 | AcidWeb | gently pats REFlex |
| 12:31.26 | Vladinator | AcidWeb: what do you mean? :P where is this additional data you see? |
| 12:32.48 | AcidWeb | Let me rephrase: I dont see reason for changing that window. |
| 12:33.00 | AcidWeb | Unless you just want it to look more slim :-) |
| 12:34.41 | Vladinator | ofc |
| 12:34.46 | Vladinator | that's the reason :P |
| 12:34.54 | Vladinator | or maybe the word is appealing |
| 12:35.04 | Vladinator | in any case, does GetTime return same values until machine reboot? :P |
| 12:35.09 | Vladinator | or client reboot only? |
| 12:36.22 | Jammer | computer |
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| 12:38.11 | AcidWeb | If you messing with time functions and battlegrounds remember that functions that use server time might return "strange" data. |
| 12:38.25 | AcidWeb | As bg instance server can run in diffrent timezone as player realm. |
| 12:39.07 | alestane | wowprogramming indicates that os.time should be available in WoW, although possibly only under the old alias 'time'; you can use this for persistent time values if you need them. |
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| 12:52.53 | Vladinator | it's only for tracking time before invite, queue estimation |
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| 13:06.01 | Vladinator | time is available yes |
| 13:19.04 | Vladinator | if you had a phone call 2 hours ago from a work finding organization but you realize it now and they are soon to closing, do you callback now or later? or mail? :P |
| 13:19.12 | Vladinator | I didn't see the unanswered message :/ |
| 13:22.38 | Jamash | call now |
| 13:23.32 | alestane | pouncles Peppy. |
| 13:25.42 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, alestane. |
| 13:25.47 | Lopeppeppy | Call now, Vladinator. |
| 13:27.10 | Jamash | wow patch = what? |
| 13:28.16 | bluipodcow | Hihihi |
| 13:28.24 | bluipodcow | Lolz |
| 13:29.17 | bluipodcow | Apparently mac book users didn't like their macs being turned into toasters |
| 13:29.23 | bluipodcow | So patch |
| 13:29.53 | Lopeppeppy | So fussy. |
| 13:30.23 | bluipodcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:30.29 | bluipodcow | ^_^ |
| 13:31.18 | Jamash | but i r on winduz? |
| 13:31.51 | bluipodcow | Windoz need tooltip update! |
| 13:32.10 | kagaro | i wants the toaster! |
| 13:32.28 | Lopeppeppy | I don't wear hats. Hats are almost as evil as socks. |
| 13:32.47 | bluipodcow | :( |
| 13:33.10 | Jamash | It never ceases to baffle me that they've never made a tooltip hotfix system that would cache spell tooltip formulas the way npcs and stuff are cached. |
| 13:33.11 | bluipodcow | Then what am i nomming? |
| 13:33.24 | Lopeppeppy | Someone else's spare shoes? |
| 13:33.32 | Jamash | hats are *awesome* |
| 13:33.38 | foxlit | Jamash: but why bother? :) |
| 13:33.41 | bluipodcow | *bleh* |
| 13:34.04 | Jamash | foxlit: because it would make it possible to update tooltips without shipping a patch? |
| 13:34.20 | foxlit | Is that important? |
| 13:34.27 | Jamash | I think so |
| 13:34.37 | Jamash | reduce player confusion |
| 13:34.39 | foxlit | I mean, unless you've explicitly went out of your way, tooltips don't even show numbers. |
| 13:34.52 | Jamash | :[ |
| 13:35.03 | foxlit | "This ability deals much damage. You should use it!" |
| 13:35.11 | Jamash | blah blah noobification blah, etc. |
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| 13:35.27 | Vladinator | SetTexture returns 1 regardless :( and GetTexture returns the invalid texture, hehe |
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| 13:35.48 | alestane | What about when you have to go out in the chilly, Peppy? Just have cold ears? |
| 13:36.02 | foxlit | Jamash: it's more interesting that their patch release schedule is still glacial. |
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| 13:36.41 | Jamash | eh, worldwide, localization, QA, multiplatform, other buzzwords |
| 13:37.24 | foxlit | not many of those apply to changing a numeric formula. |
| 13:37.54 | Jamash | do they ever patch *just* tooltips? |
| 13:38.03 | Jamash | I would expect even minor patches to include code fixes and whatnot |
| 13:39.53 | foxlit | side-effect of the glacial release pace :) |
| 13:40.21 | foxlit | But I suppose it all comes down to the same thing: they should be able to ship magical changes that'd make things work properly faster. |
| 13:41.54 | bluipodcow | Small patch tho |
| 13:42.04 | bluipodcow | Less than 9 |
| 13:42.11 | bluipodcow | 900 k |
| 13:42.34 | bluipodcow | With the usual Updates folder jazz |
| 13:43.00 | bluipodcow | So actual maybe 7 -14 NB depending on if on pc or mac |
| 13:43.26 | foxlit | GW2 patching is cute. It occasionally downloads something, applies it to its monolithic data store (15 GB in a single file), and doesn't even bother to tell you that it changes something. |
| 13:44.11 | durcyn | the 16048 overlay mpq actually weighs in around 6mb |
| 13:44.28 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, my ears are never cold. Even when I get frostbite on them, they are never cold enough for a hat. |
| 13:45.25 | alestane | bluipodcow: http://cataddictsanonymouse.tumblr.com/image/29948979375 |
| 13:48.17 | Jamash | bluipodcow: nanobytes? |
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| 13:55.29 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/I4eHm.jpg everything but the god damn island at the top left lines up |
| 13:56.06 | Semlar | i think it's using a transform to reposition it on the world map |
| 13:58.29 | Semlar | does anyone know what that island is called |
| 14:02.23 | Semlar | http://www.wowpedia.org/Unnamed_island_north_of_Townlong_Steppes ..oh. well then. |
| 14:02.37 | durcyn | hm, netatalk 3.0 sucks slightly less than previous versions |
| 14:04.49 | bluipodcow | Megabytes Jamash |
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| 14:05.16 | Jamash | [09:42:42] <bluipodcow> So actual maybe 7 -14 NB depending on if on pc or mac |
| 14:05.36 | bluipodcow | Mistype :3 |
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| 14:06.33 | bluipodcow | Updates folder MPQ file has copies if the 32 and 64 bit clients iirc |
| 14:06.44 | bluipodcow | *of |
| 14:15.58 | foxlit | Hm, there was an addon that tried to emulate Spotlight launcher for wow. |
| 14:16.14 | foxlit | type in part of a spell name, press enter, cast that spell. Does that ring any bells? |
| 14:16.59 | Semlar | would that even be possible |
| 14:17.10 | Semlar | i didn't think you could pull that off in combat |
| 14:17.41 | alestane | That would be challenging, at least since BC. |
| 14:17.44 | Semlar | the addon would have to fill in the rest and execute it securely |
| 14:18.06 | foxlit | I think the version I'm thinking of worked exclusively out of combat. |
| 14:18.11 | alestane | Text Boxes aren't secured, so I don't think any secure code is allowed to see them. |
| 14:18.14 | Semlar | you could definitely do it out of combat |
| 14:18.47 | foxlit | Semlar: expert analysis there, but the question was "what was that addon that did that?" not "is that even possible?" :) |
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| 14:19.44 | foxlit | for what its worth, I think it's possible (through incredibly silly) to do it in combat as well. |
| 14:20.32 | Semlar | i think it's potentially possible to do in combat but not sure about how you'd pull it off |
| 14:23.30 | Semlar | you have the hardware event but the addon would still be determining what action to cal.. |
| 14:23.35 | Semlar | call |
| 14:25.01 | Semlar | unless maybe you made a button for every partial text match |
| 14:28.31 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info14628-Splaunchy.html |
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| 14:29.47 | Semlar | is there any difference between self:IsMouseOver() and MouseIsOver(self) |
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| 14:32.13 | foxlit | I imagine the answer to that is spelled out in the implementation of MouseIsOver |
| 14:33.46 | foxlit | and it's "no" |
| 14:35.02 | Semlar | okay |
| 14:45.07 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://imgur.com/gallery/Im7Y2 |
| 14:46.36 | bluipodcow | Popcorn! |
| 14:46.39 | bluipodcow | :3 |
| 14:49.11 | Vladinator | thanks Torhal |
| 14:50.34 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/Odk3B |
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| 14:53.48 | Semlar | welcome to a highway offramp |
| 14:54.15 | Lopeppeppy | Looks nothing like what I see out my window. *shrug* Any more than it's what jnwhiteh sees out his window... but I bet if he looked for it, he'd find it. |
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| 14:55.47 | Semlar | <FontString name="WorldMapFrameAreaLabel" inherits="WorldMapTextFont" text="BLAH!" justifyV="TOP"> |
| 14:56.25 | Semlar | blah! |
| 14:56.28 | Semlar | BLAH! |
| 14:57.27 | mckenziemc | morning peppy |
| 14:58.15 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, mckenziemc. Happy patch day! |
| 14:59.18 | mckenziemc | i think the newspaper company's persistent error cost me $2.50 today :( |
| 15:01.03 | mckenziemc | i was short two papers, i think because they still haven't fixed an issue that caused some people to not show up on the route lists for tuesday but still need a paper |
| 15:03.00 | mckenziemc | related: one of those customers reported their paper stolen when i was new to the job because i noticed they weren't listed for tuesday delivery and went back to get the paper i'd already delivered there (and needed for another stop) |
| 15:04.36 | mckenziemc | sadly it would've been cheaper for me if i'd just left them without a paper and taken the complaints >.< |
| 15:05.01 | mckenziemc | ($1.00 per complaint) |
| 15:10.13 | mckenziemc | "Panda Man of Mystery" o.O |
| 15:10.58 | nevcairiel | sounds like automated translation of the chinese name |
| 15:11.16 | Dagmar | If you pay for customer stupidity, find a different fuckin job |
| 15:11.34 | Dagmar | Them complaining they didn't get a paper on the day they're not supposed to is not something you should pay for |
| 15:11.47 | mckenziemc | Dagmar: they are supposed to, it's the route lists that are wrong |
| 15:11.59 | Dagmar | So, their fuck up is your problem? |
| 15:12.03 | Dagmar | Even more reason to walk away |
| 15:13.09 | Dagmar | If they fuck up they should be taking the financial hit, not you |
| 15:13.54 | mckenziemc | i'm considering asking them for reimbursement, but i doubt that would go well |
| 15:14.46 | Dagmar | Pfff. It was their mistake, why should you pay for it? |
| 15:15.46 | Dagmar | Basically, if it doesn't cost *them* money somehow, they have no impetus to fix it. |
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| 15:16.34 | Dagmar | ...and if you're soaking up the monetized loss of "customer faith" then that's just completely off in the realm of "fucking the employees for fun and profits" |
| 15:16.45 | Dark_Elf | wonder what changed in 5.0.5? |
| 15:16.59 | mckenziemc | http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1194593-Patch-5-0-5-16048?p=18373383#post18373383 |
| 15:17.02 | durcyn | Dark_Elf: client side tooltip updates to match hotfixes primarily |
| 15:17.11 | durcyn | and GlyphUI taint unfucking |
| 15:17.18 | Dark_Elf | dont sound like much then lol |
| 15:17.24 | Dagmar | Dark_Elf: Druids in reindeer mode can select to go without the garish earrings |
| 15:18.53 | Dark_Elf | i wish they would of kept cheetah form it seemed faster at running |
| 15:19.43 | foxlit | sigh, wowdb. |
| 15:20.00 | foxlit | "Quality: Artifact / Epic / Common / Heirloom / ..." |
| 15:20.25 | foxlit | and no stat filtering. |
| 15:21.01 | Semlar | http://www.wowhead.com/item=89868/glyph-of-the-cheetah did this not make it into live |
| 15:22.06 | Semlar | oh it requires more inscription than you can get |
| 15:24.10 | Dagmar | Everyone deserves to be able to ride druids |
| 15:24.21 | Dark_Elf | lol |
| 15:24.47 | Dark_Elf | i would rather ride in the motorcycles |
| 15:25.03 | Semlar | what about a motorized druid |
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| 15:25.16 | Lopeppeppy | Heh heh. He said "ride druids" |
| 15:25.34 | Mr_Rabies | glyph of the stag should make travel form effectively a mount, imo |
| 15:25.56 | Mr_Rabies | 1.5 sec cast, +100% run speed |
| 15:26.00 | mckenziemc | hey nilyaK |
| 15:26.14 | nilyaK | hello! |
| 15:26.15 | foxlit | Mr_Rabies: or instant cast. |
| 15:26.20 | Dark_Elf | gee that glyph keep the stag from working |
| 15:26.24 | nilyaK | I mean !olleh :P |
| 15:26.28 | nilyaK | how're you this morning :) |
| 15:26.34 | mckenziemc | hungry |
| 15:26.41 | foxlit | because flight form already is :) |
| 15:27.04 | Mr_Rabies | an instant cast mount would probably be a bad thing for pvp |
| 15:27.17 | durcyn | you mean like, say, brooms. |
| 15:27.24 | nilyaK | hungers too. |
| 15:27.26 | Dark_Elf | i wish flag carriers could mount, be more fair |
| 15:27.38 | Mr_Rabies | aren't all the instant cast brooms short duration? |
| 15:27.52 | durcyn | if you call a week short |
| 15:27.59 | Mr_Rabies | that's pretty short, yeah |
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| 15:54.02 | Mr_Rabies | hm, a patch today? :o |
| 15:54.37 | bluipodcow | Yes |
| 15:54.42 | bluipodcow | Cause of you |
| 15:54.55 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 15:55.02 | bluipodcow | Your so special we decided to patch today |
| 15:55.10 | Mr_Rabies | i blame fisker |
| 15:55.35 | Krapsy | its mostly tooltip fixes |
| 15:55.56 | nilyaK | it's, mostly, tooltip, fixes |
| 15:56.01 | nilyaK | >_> |
| 15:56.59 | bluipodcow | Heeeey pretty lady |
| 15:57.32 | bluipodcow | *dances gundam style* |
| 15:57.43 | Dark_Elf | ooopa ooopa gangnam style |
| 15:58.00 | nilyaK | licks bluipodcow. |
| 15:58.14 | Dark_Elf | i like the britney spears dance to it |
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| 16:06.07 | ben657 | Hey, i'm just getting into this WoW UI stuff, I've got a good background in Lua, but some of this just seems odd... any ideas why this code keeps the bar at the left, with no offset? |
| 16:06.08 | ben657 | http://pastie.org/4702460 |
| 16:06.32 | ben657 | oh and the function does get called afterwards |
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| 16:14.09 | foxlit | ben657: try also providing a y offset. |
| 16:15.25 | ben657 | that did it... feel stupid now, been wondering about that for hours... oh well, thanks :) |
| 16:15.35 | Torhal|work | Vladinator: What were you thanking me for? |
| 16:15.46 | Vladinator | thought you accepted my addon on curse :P |
| 16:15.49 | Vladinator | but it was someone else hehe |
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| 16:17.00 | Torhal|work | lol |
| 16:21.05 | mckenziemc | thanks Torhal|work |
| 16:23.40 | Vladinator | is it me or does inspect ready event fire but not all items are properly loaded? |
| 16:23.41 | Vladinator | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:24.19 | mckenziemc | i'd throw errors too if i had to inspect you |
| 16:27.37 | Torhal|work | tosses mckenziemc into the Troll Room. |
| 16:28.12 | mckenziemc | throws errors at Torhal|work |
| 16:28.29 | bluipodcow | It crits for 96666646 |
| 16:38.02 | Fisker | so Stanzilla |
| 16:38.09 | Stanzilla | yes Fisker |
| 16:38.12 | Fisker | in b4 plausible deniability |
| 16:38.31 | Mr_Rabies | fisker |
| 16:41.43 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/3gFam.png i think someones getting banned :O |
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| 16:55.14 | Krapsy | who |
| 16:55.16 | Krapsy | you? |
| 16:55.23 | Krapsy | bye |
| 16:55.31 | Fisker | hey Krapsy |
| 16:55.59 | Krapsy | hey Fisker |
| 17:15.06 | zenzelezz | http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?139877-Two-BI-employees-arrested-in-Lemnos&p=2221846 o_O |
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| 17:17.00 | bluipodcow | Y I read that as in Lemons ? |
| 17:17.26 | Torhal|work | bluipodcow: Because iPod. |
| 17:17.33 | bluipodcow | Lol |
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| 17:30.29 | Semlar | http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4505584 |
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| 17:38.47 | Primer | old |
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| 17:39.29 | cbreak | funny. |
| 17:39.38 | cbreak | blizzard uses steganographical watermarking. |
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| 17:40.22 | Semlar | and it's not encrypted so you can just pull someone's account name out of their screenshots |
| 17:40.57 | bluipodcow | Account number not battle net address |
| 17:41.20 | bluipodcow | Original source of all that us a thread on owned core |
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| 17:41.45 | bluipodcow | Eg 107456#1 |
| 17:42.05 | bluipodcow | Not thisismybnetemail@gmail.con |
| 17:45.33 | Unkle | Are we really shocked? |
| 17:46.36 | bluipodcow | Not wly |
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| 17:51.02 | ben657 | Hi, just wondering how on earth you go about setting a players target, been googling it for a while now, and the only method that I can see that does it, is protected... pretty sure i'm missing something here. |
| 17:51.23 | Semlar | it's a protected function |
| 17:51.32 | Unkle | You don't programatically set a player's target. |
| 17:51.34 | Krapsy | Unkle: idk, why is it a thing in the first place? |
| 17:52.31 | ben657 | okay, so how do addons with raid/party frames do it? |
| 17:52.42 | Semlar | you can only set the target in response to a hardware event |
| 17:52.52 | Semlar | and the target is a preset unit id |
| 17:53.22 | ben657 | oh? which hardware events? |
| 17:53.25 | Primer | mouse click, keyboard |
| 17:53.30 | Semlar | the user has to click a button or hit a key |
| 17:53.33 | TC-Work | faceroll |
| 17:54.01 | ben657 | odd, trying to do it from a mouse click at the moment, not working... |
| 17:54.15 | ben657 | it's a "mouseUp" function on a frame |
| 17:54.16 | Krapsy | TC-Work: that would require an addon with face recognition |
| 17:54.40 | Semlar | it has to be done from a secure frame |
| 17:54.46 | TC-Work | Krapsy: It's a hardware event |
| 17:55.22 | Krapsy | dohoho |
| 17:55.40 | d87 | http://www.wowpedia.org/SecureActionButtonTemplate |
| 17:56.28 | Krapsy | so whats the point of watermarking screenshots |
| 17:56.36 | Krapsy | with account info |
| 17:56.55 | Semlar | apparently so they can track leaked NDA stuff |
| 17:57.01 | Semlar | or find private servers |
| 17:59.00 | Krapsy | dev AMA today |
| 17:59.12 | Unkle | Krapsy - watermarking screenshots with the sort of information they're using /could/ let someone build a database of account ids. |
| 17:59.22 | TC-Work | but account information would not correlate on a priv server would it? |
| 17:59.35 | TC-Work | since i assume they are random |
| 17:59.36 | Semlar | it stores the ip address of the private server |
| 17:59.45 | TC-Work | oh, so more than account info? |
| 17:59.51 | Semlar | yes |
| 17:59.52 | TC-Work | interesting |
| 17:59.56 | Krapsy | "someone" meaning blizzard? |
| 18:00.32 | TC-Work | I think blizz already has a db of account id's |
| 18:01.25 | Primer | Why even bother with watermarking screenshots? |
| 18:01.26 | Krapsy | so unkle is saying that an unscrupulous person can |
| 18:01.28 | Primer | they have the fucking client |
| 18:02.05 | Primer | Me: wowclient, connect to private server. Wowclient: Ok (sends info to blizz) |
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| 18:02.25 | Semlar | i think it's mostly to track people sharing things they aren't supposed to |
| 18:02.33 | Primer | Unless they're only using it to connect to private servers and firewalled the blizz servers |
| 18:02.48 | bluipodcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:02.56 | bluipodcow | Heh |
| 18:03.05 | Primer | yet the supposed "watermark" goes away if you disable jpg compression or use tga... |
| 18:03.22 | Primer | not buying it |
| 18:03.27 | Unkle | Because Digimark is crappy. |
| 18:03.30 | Semlar | the information is there, you just can't see it by looking at the image |
| 18:03.42 | bluipodcow | They've already got a build of wow.exe that disables the watermarking on owned core |
| 18:04.19 | Alram | this was used to kick people from the alpha's for leaking screenshots |
| 18:04.22 | Alram | guess they left it in |
| 18:04.40 | Krapsy | obviously i dont thing blizz would fritter away account information just to "track stuff", i'm just a little startled |
| 18:04.43 | Primer | what alphas? |
| 18:05.02 | Alram | wotlk alpha for example |
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| 18:05.49 | Primer | Aren't all "alhpas" internal? |
| 18:06.12 | Alram | No? :P |
| 18:06.13 | Dagmar | I'm not going to be convinced of what they're saying until I can actually see it decoded |
| 18:06.21 | Primer | agreed |
| 18:06.26 | Dagmar | Until then it's still likely to just be tinfoil hat talk |
| 18:06.32 | Primer | yup |
| 18:06.33 | Semlar | they posted a link directly to how you can get the information |
| 18:06.46 | Alram | It's not tinfoil hat stuff, but it's not that interesting as people make it to be either |
| 18:06.48 | Primer | inconclusive |
| 18:06.50 | Krapsy | once you reach F&F its not internal anymore |
| 18:06.54 | Semlar | it's not inconclusive |
| 18:06.54 | Dagmar | I am not seeing any such link |
| 18:07.02 | Alram | A+ to the programmer that implemented this but thats about it |
| 18:07.03 | Alram | :P |
| 18:07.13 | Primer | bah, that's nothing new |
| 18:07.27 | Semlar | http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/world-of-warcraft/world-of-warcraft-general/375573-looking-inside-your-screenshots-2.html#post2489452 |
| 18:07.36 | Alram | (not the most reputable source mind you) |
| 18:07.42 | Alram | But somewhat correct nonetheless |
| 18:07.55 | Primer | steganography's been around for a long time |
| 18:08.13 | Alram | I said implemented, not invented :P |
| 18:08.35 | Primer | steganography in images has been around for a long time |
| 18:09.00 | Dagmar | WHat I see is some people getting very uptight about some pixelation, and making some claims about whatever they interpreted those to be but it's still not really saying anything convincing |
| 18:09.22 | Alram | There's references to functions from the decompiled exe that clearly state watermark |
| 18:09.33 | Semlar | yeah that's the function straight out of the client |
| 18:10.01 | Fisker | yeah Dagmar totally pixelation |
| 18:10.31 | Krapsy | the truth is in the pixels man, open your eyes |
| 18:10.45 | Dagmar | I also find it pretty sketch that they keep talking about the ToU |
| 18:11.00 | Krapsy | hehe |
| 18:11.05 | Dagmar | If *you* publish screenshots, that's a wholly different issue than if Blizzard were taking your screenshots and publishing them |
| 18:11.30 | Alram | People are talking about the ToU because some claimed it was privacy breaching |
| 18:11.36 | Fisker | http://www.androidcentral.com/what-android-features-will-apple-invent-tomorrow <-i saw what they did there |
| 18:11.38 | Alram | While it is most certainly not |
| 18:12.05 | Krapsy | oh snap Fisker |
| 18:12.29 | Krapsy | wowcore talking about adhering to the ToU |
| 18:12.39 | bluipodcow | Lol! |
| 18:12.42 | Alram | they will invent NFC Fisker |
| 18:12.45 | Alram | but it wont be NFC |
| 18:12.47 | Dagmar | I keep seeing them say what the watermark is supposed to contain, but I do not see any sign of anyone successfully decoding the supposed watermark into such |
| 18:12.48 | Alram | it will be something incompatible |
| 18:12.56 | nevcairiel | Alram: but called NFC |
| 18:13.03 | Alram | yeah |
| 18:13.08 | nevcairiel | you know, like their bluetooth |
| 18:13.44 | Fisker | it'll be close enviroment correspondence Alram |
| 18:14.07 | Alram | and im sure they will also invent the 7" form factor |
| 18:14.14 | Alram | but it wont be 7" |
| 18:14.17 | Alram | it will be slightly different |
| 18:14.29 | Fisker | 7.1" |
| 18:14.33 | Dagmar | They'll probably invent black text on a white background, since their iPads are white |
| 18:14.37 | Fisker | sues galaxy nexus for copying their design |
| 18:14.47 | bluipodcow | 6.9999989999999999999999999999999999999999999" |
| 18:14.59 | Alram | i will sue you bluipodcow |
| 18:15.12 | bluipodcow | And I will George you |
| 18:15.26 | Fisker | bluipodcow keeps lying about his ipod |
| 18:15.27 | Alram | Fisker is my lawyer good luck |
| 18:15.29 | Dagmar | I do find it amusing they're moving to 7" form factor after Jobs spent all that time pooh-poohing the 7" form-factor as irrelevant and awkward |
| 18:15.50 | bluipodcow | Well he's dead |
| 18:15.56 | bluipodcow | :P |
| 18:16.07 | Primer | I find it suspicious that someone is able to get those symbol names from the client, btw |
| 18:16.17 | Alram | Nah, they've been doing that for ages Primer |
| 18:16.22 | Alram | Blizzard does not make it hard |
| 18:16.24 | Primer | presumably blizzard is not stupid enough to ship a non-stripped binary |
| 18:16.53 | Primer | objdump.exe --disassemble Wow.exe | grep -i watermark |
| 18:16.55 | Primer | didn't get shit |
| 18:17.19 | Alram | You'll need one of the accidentally released bin files |
| 18:17.28 | Primer | unless that crap's in a shared lib on osx |
| 18:17.39 | Primer | or the osx binary isn't stipped |
| 18:17.41 | Primer | stripped |
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| 18:24.48 | Primer | I think this post sums it up pretty well: "Clearly JPEG artifacts as pointed out by Frito and Arai. Anyone who continues to think this is a conspiracy is a complete moron. Given the nature of JPEG compression it wouldn't even be possible to code in high-detail QR codes, and if they were really doing this it would appear in lossless format as well" |
| 18:25.11 | Primer | the very last assertion |
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| 18:25.19 | Primer | about it showing up in lossless formats as well |
| 18:26.21 | foxlit | what artifacts are we on about, just so that I can offer my totally unqualified opinion too? |
| 18:26.29 | Semlar | nothing important |
| 18:26.49 | Semlar | http://imgur.com/a/ospQ3 does this look better with no overlays or should i put the normal map overlays on top of it |
| 18:27.54 | foxlit | the top image is better than the middle image |
| 18:27.56 | TMc51 | Semlar: I mostly like how it looks without, but lower opacity a bit more on an overlay and it might look better than the middle one. |
| 18:28.25 | foxlit | though the map background looks nice. Maybe steal that part. |
| 18:29.00 | TMc51 | Foxlit: Thats kind of what I'm thinking. Also, it seems the zone borders are blended a little better with the overlay. |
| 18:29.22 | foxlit | alternatively, you should figure out some way to get rid of the zone names from the map images, and dynamically phase in more detail as you zoom in |
| 18:30.18 | Semlar | that's doable |
| 18:30.54 | Fisker | this foxlit |
| 18:30.55 | Fisker | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/WoWScrnShot_091012_221119.jpg |
| 18:30.59 | Fisker | see this white picture? |
| 18:31.08 | Semlar | it's pretty white |
| 18:31.12 | Fisker | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/WoWScrnShot_091012_221119-post.jpg <-this is totally compression artifacts |
| 18:31.39 | Fisker | everyone thinking otherwise obviously believe that the moon landing was a hoax and 9/11 was an inside job |
| 18:31.39 | foxlit | 100% Fisker-certified compression artifacts, I assume. |
| 18:31.53 | Fisker | nah foxlit |
| 18:32.02 | Semlar | i can tell by the pixels |
| 18:33.39 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/EsdAR.jpg i heard you like maps |
| 18:33.40 | Fisker | anyone fapping over haswell ? |
| 18:33.56 | bluipodcow | Haswell? |
| 18:34.13 | Fisker | yes bluipodcow |
| 18:34.26 | bluipodcow | Wot dat |
| 18:35.00 | Fisker | if you don't know you don't deserve to know |
| 18:37.50 | TMc51 | Fisker: Has more information even been released about Haswell yet? |
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| 18:38.01 | Fisker | yes TMc51 |
| 18:38.36 | TMc51 | I demand sauce, then! Last I heard was about the power cuts, which is expected with every new generation. |
| 18:38.45 | Fisker | http://www.anandtech.com/show/6263/intel-haswell-architecture-disclosure-live-blog |
| 18:38.53 | TMc51 | Thanks. |
| 18:39.04 | TMc51 | I wasn't expecting much new info until IDF. |
| 18:39.28 | bluipodcow | I thought he was talking about one of the spice girls |
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| 18:39.56 | TMc51 | Whiiich, I take back, since apparently it's already the 11th. >.< |
| 18:40.13 | Cairenn | morning |
| 18:40.34 | TMc51 | Herro |
| 18:40.41 | Semlar | afternoon |
| 18:40.51 | Cairenn | Semlar: ugt ;) |
| 18:46.09 | Amarande | G'afternoon :) |
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| 18:49.16 | Esamynn|work | Amarande: it's still morning here you insensitive clod! |
| 18:50.02 | Semlar | esamynn! |
| 18:50.07 | Esamynn|work | hides |
| 18:50.18 | Semlar | oh no you don't |
| 18:50.45 | Semlar | you get back here and tell me why my island is out of place |
| 18:50.46 | Amarande | wow, it's patch day already |
| 18:50.55 | Amarande | I thought we weren't going to get one between now and MoP |
| 18:51.19 | Semlar | it's like christmas! |
| 18:51.21 | bluipodcow | ..... |
| 18:51.43 | Amarande | "Master Looters can again assign loot to players in other groups within a raid." |
| 18:51.44 | Amarande | Oh dear. |
| 18:51.55 | Esamynn|work | Semlar: I keep telling you to take better care of your things! |
| 18:52.04 | Esamynn|work | rofl |
| 18:52.04 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/I4eHm.jpg IT'S FLOATING OFF INTO NOWHERE |
| 18:52.05 | Amarande | You mean for the past two weeks, you could never get raid loot unless you were lucky enough to be in the same group as the master looter? *blink* |
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| 18:53.37 | Semlar | is that important? |
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| 18:54.47 | Esamynn|work | Amarande: just had to do a little group swapping was all |
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| 19:01.22 | Esamynn|work | I've gotten reports from someone who saw it on the beta |
| 19:01.28 | Esamynn|work | I've never seen it myself |
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| 19:01.39 | nevcairiel | i can reproduce it on live when i try hard enough |
| 19:01.46 | nevcairiel | but its rather random |
| 19:01.56 | durcyn | and something in the default uI is still trying to show every single micro button randomly |
| 19:01.59 | durcyn | UI* |
| 19:02.55 | Esamynn|work | the only common theme between all of these errors, nevcairiel/durycn, is that they are all related to the world map in some way |
| 19:03.05 | Esamynn|work | in fact, I think every trace I've seen has been during W_M_U |
| 19:03.43 | Esamynn|work | send me any unique traces you have, please, I'm putting together a "package" |
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| 19:08.17 | nevcairiel | mine are all triggered by W_M_U -> WorldMapZonesDropDown_Update |
| 19:10.28 | Esamynn|work | exactly |
| 19:10.43 | Esamynn|work | so they're all the same as the one I linked? |
| 19:10.51 | nevcairiel | very similar anyway |
| 19:11.10 | nevcairiel | the origin might be different, any events that cause a W_M_U |
| 19:11.19 | nevcairiel | like changing the zone dropdown |
| 19:11.24 | Esamynn|work | well, a sample of different origins couldn't hurt |
| 19:11.47 | Esamynn|work | the more I can throw at Blizzard out of their own UI, the better |
| 19:13.02 | Esamynn|work | unfortunatley, I haven't pinned down any pattern between those who can reproduce the error and those who cannot :( |
| 19:16.04 | kd3 | emails out |
| 19:18.19 | Primer | godaddy again? |
| 19:19.18 | Amarande | I see companion pets have not been fixed, otoh |
| 19:20.27 | Amarande | "you do not have a pet" error is still present |
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| 19:28.25 | nebula169 | i started leveling a gnome in new tinkertown and with tracked quests i got the UIDROPDOWN_MENU_LEVEL error pretty much every time i opened my map ;[ |
| 19:31.05 | End_ | tinkertown huh |
| 19:35.30 | nebula169 | yea,i'd open map and get the error and see pois aren't displayed correctly then have to reopen it to see where i was suppose to go |
| 19:41.49 | Esamynn|work | as I said, stack traces would help if anyone has a few handy which are different from http://codepad.org/V7MFEoMK even if it's just a different origin |
| 19:43.41 | zenzelezz | hm, watermarked screenshots, eh? Interesting |
| 19:46.46 | Fisker | old |
| 19:47.07 | mckenziemc | old Fisker |
| 19:47.47 | Kalroth | hm, watermarked Fisker, eh? Not so interesting |
| 19:48.06 | Fisker | mad? |
| 19:48.23 | Kalroth | u so mad |
| 19:50.18 | Esamynn|work | u not funny |
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| 19:52.17 | pompy | http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=94128543 vote!! |
| 19:52.20 | pompy | 2 dayss |
| 19:54.16 | Alram | A+ pompy |
| 19:54.26 | Alram | but you know how its like |
| 19:54.32 | Alram | approved already |
| 19:54.35 | Alram | note the huge green banner |
| 19:56.07 | nebula169 | it's out on the 14th |
| 19:56.20 | nebula169 | was what he was referring to, i'd imagine |
| 19:56.50 | Alram | he said vote |
| 19:57.11 | pompy | well the yes /no thanks buttons are still active |
| 19:57.19 | pompy | i guess they are the voting buttons |
| 19:57.19 | Alram | Yeah, but useless |
| 19:57.25 | pompy | but i see that its been picked! |
| 19:57.26 | pompy | http://store.steampowered.com/news/8839/ |
| 19:57.27 | Alram | This is all Valve from here |
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| 19:57.39 | pompy | valve should hire the ppl behind BM:S! |
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| 19:58.08 | Primer | I voted...no... |
| 19:59.10 | nebula169 | you chose...poorly |
| 20:00.57 | pompy | ^ |
| 20:01.30 | Primer | looks like Half Life... |
| 20:01.35 | Primer | I already played that game |
| 20:02.11 | Fisker | wow |
| 20:02.12 | pompy | yes its a remake of hl1 |
| 20:02.16 | pompy | in better detail! |
| 20:02.17 | Fisker | pixel |
| 20:02.20 | pompy | prettier! |
| 20:02.25 | Fisker | mcpixel |
| 20:02.41 | pompy | Fiskar |
| 20:03.10 | Fisker | pomp y |
| 20:03.15 | Fisker | pompy |
| 20:03.23 | mckenziemc | Fisker |
| 20:03.25 | mckenziemc | i have to pee |
| 20:03.28 | Fisker | K |
| 20:09.10 | mckenziemc | so you agree? |
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| 20:14.24 | Expociia | hey, anyone wanna send a scrolling of resurrection? |
| 20:14.43 | Primer | no |
| 20:15.13 | Expociia | k, why not? free mount.. |
| 20:15.28 | Primer | You're probably a spammer |
| 20:15.55 | Expociia | No, i am not. I am returning for mop and thought i might get a free lvl 80 |
| 20:16.09 | Expociia | and a week free playtime |
| 20:16.44 | Expociia | none of my old guidmates are playing so i'll sor to them later but someone has to start =) |
| 20:18.36 | g0urra | EU or US? |
| 20:18.48 | Expociia | eu |
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| 20:41.15 | mckenziemc | s/eu/eww/ :D |
| 20:48.25 | Vladinator | hi |
| 20:48.37 | nilyaK | hello! |
| 20:48.50 | Vladinator | got a weird situation :P |
| 20:49.11 | mckenziemc | because nilyak greeted you back? |
| 20:49.15 | nilyaK | :X |
| 20:50.12 | Sintacks | Downstream: 3953.67 KBytes/s Upstream: 61.07 KBytes/s |
| 20:50.16 | Sintacks | holy shit |
| 20:50.30 | Sintacks | I've had bursts of 4MB/s before. but never lasting several minutes |
| 20:50.44 | mckenziemc | grats |
| 20:51.21 | pompy | clogs Sintacks network |
| 20:51.36 | Sintacks | quit: (Disconnected by pompy) |
| 21:02.19 | Ackis | I just made 7500 gold from being over the cap |
| 21:02.49 | Unkle_ | Oh snap. I didn't spend my excess JP last night. |
| 21:02.49 | olafski | how many points was that? |
| 21:02.50 | Stanzilla | I just made 5555g gold by killing ragnaros |
| 21:03.35 | nevcairiel | selling mounts? :d |
| 21:03.55 | Ackis | olafski: I was over 10k don't remember the exact amount |
| 21:03.56 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 21:04.07 | olafski | ah. not bad :) |
| 21:04.46 | olafski | I had to force myself through a couple of heroics last week just to get capped =( |
| 21:05.07 | nevcairiel | i spent mine on some heirloom gear for a new alt |
| 21:05.14 | nevcairiel | i should get the 4k capped again :p |
| 21:05.31 | olafski | got all the heirlooms already.. I just wanted to be "ready" for mop |
| 21:05.40 | kd3 | I've just been running for rep |
| 21:05.46 | kd3 | on my last cata rep now |
| 21:05.53 | nevcairiel | i'm all rep'ed out |
| 21:06.10 | nevcairiel | i wish there was a good way to get goblib faction rep |
| 21:06.14 | nevcairiel | goblin* |
| 21:06.28 | nevcairiel | (the neutral goblins, not the horde faction) |
| 21:06.32 | Ackis | hasn't been playing for two weeks pretty much, Torhal|work is a code slavemaster. |
| 21:06.45 | olafski | I unlocked my second set of 4 plots today! |
| 21:06.58 | Ackis | simcity? |
| 21:07.08 | olafski | no.. tillers |
| 21:07.13 | Torhal|work | Ackis: Speaking of which, why isn't Collectinator done? |
| 21:07.42 | Ackis | because I'm in a terrible mood and I don't feel like hooking the gui up to the backend right now |
| 21:07.54 | Ackis | I suppose I could do interface options |
| 21:08.03 | olafski | still down about your fiance thinking you're a jerk eh |
| 21:08.09 | Ackis | also my server just restarted |
| 21:08.14 | Ackis | she's my wife now olafski |
| 21:08.21 | Ackis | and she was super pissed at me this morning |
| 21:08.26 | kd3 | me too. I log back in and get 'Cross realm shutdown in 2:45' |
| 21:08.28 | kd3 | sigh |
| 21:08.28 | olafski | oh sorry :$ |
| 21:08.36 | Torhal|work | s/this morning/all the fucking time/ |
| 21:09.06 | olafski | I'm all ready for MoP I think.. need to empty my bags a bit but I'll do that on the 24th |
| 21:09.10 | Ackis | apparently I was snoring pretty bad last night so she slept on the couch, I came down around 5am and told her to go up to bed and I would take the couch, turns out the cat shit on the bed and she thought the only reason I switched with her was so she would clean it up |
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| 21:09.21 | olafski | even got 22 dailies in my log, thanks to karl :( |
| 21:09.26 | nevcairiel | lol Ackis |
| 21:09.29 | zenzelezz | Ackis: lol/ouch |
| 21:09.33 | olafski | ouch :P |
| 21:10.07 | End_ | I have gained the blacksmithing skill? |
| 21:10.07 | End_ | what |
| 21:10.13 | Ackis | like I smelled the shit, but I looked over everywhere and couldn't find it so I just assumed a dog farted... the cat had buried the shit/rolled it up in the blanket |
| 21:10.17 | Torhal|work | End_: Cross-realm bug |
| 21:10.34 | End_ | I've never seen it "give" me a skill I didn't even have before |
| 21:11.06 | End_ | at least I don't think so |
| 21:11.10 | nevcairiel | check if you really have it :P |
| 21:11.18 | End_ | I didn't see it |
| 21:11.23 | End_ | and then it booted me |
| 21:11.23 | zenzelezz | it's playing mind games with you |
| 21:11.42 | Torhal|work | My favorite part of that bug is each time you cross over/back it adds an entry to each of your tradeskills |
| 21:11.53 | Torhal|work | People keep leaving messages in ARL comments saying they want us to fix it |
| 21:11.55 | End_ | yeah I've seen that |
| 21:11.57 | End_ | haha |
| 21:11.58 | Ackis | Torhal|work: no that's ackis recipe lists fault lulz |
| 21:12.19 | Amarande | kd3: apparently there's some sort of problem with chat |
| 21:12.24 | Torhal|work | Like we modify the Blizzard stuff at all. Hah. |
| 21:12.36 | Amarande | oh, hey, Torhal. I discovered a minor glitch in Archy the other night |
| 21:12.48 | Torhal|work | Just the one? |
| 21:12.49 | Torhal|work | :D |
| 21:12.52 | End_ | hah |
| 21:12.57 | Amarande | Well, the one I noticed was that it seems that if you're using a font addon (like Fonter) |
| 21:12.58 | kd3 | wtb archy not clipping text in the range circle if I'm >100yd away |
| 21:13.08 | Ackis | Amarande: Torhal|work isn't the one you should bug for that |
| 21:13.08 | Amarande | and Archy isn't showing, or you hide it and then reshow it |
| 21:13.11 | End_ | I discovered a glitch in archeology itself |
| 21:13.14 | olafski | wtb archy smaller tooltip on the minimap icon :S |
| 21:13.15 | End_ | today |
| 21:13.16 | Torhal|work | Ackis: Uh, WTF you talking about? |
| 21:13.22 | Amarande | it will go back to Fail Quadrata instead of the font that Fonter has assigned |
| 21:13.33 | Ackis | Torhal|work: isn't drizdt (sp?) maintaining it for you right now? |
| 21:13.34 | batbot | Ackis, nothing found. |
| 21:13.38 | Amarande | reloadui, font setting comes back properly, hide & reshow it, back to FQ |
| 21:13.53 | Torhal|work | Ackis: He has been, yeah, but that doesn't mean I don't work on it. |
| 21:14.14 | Ackis | but you don't I thought? |
| 21:14.29 | Torhal|work | Amarande, kd3 - file a ticket here http://www.wowace.com/addons/archy/tickets/ |
| 21:14.46 | Torhal|work | Ackis: I haven't in a few months but that's because he jumped in and did almost everything while I did other stuff |
| 21:14.47 | Torhal|work | Heh |
| 21:15.14 | Ackis | Torhal|work: I added him as a maintainer on professor btw :D |
| 21:15.18 | Ackis | I don't think he's noticed yet |
| 21:15.22 | Ackis | plus he's not in this channel :D |
| 21:15.24 | Torhal|work | Ackis: You're a weird bastard. |
| 21:15.37 | Torhal|work | Go back to coding. |
| 21:15.56 | Ackis | :( |
| 21:16.34 | zenzelezz | go back to work Torhal \o/ |
| 21:16.38 | Torhal|work | Ackis: Don't forget to apply my ARL changes to Collectinator 2 |
| 21:16.41 | Torhal|work | :D |
| 21:16.52 | Torhal|work | zenzelezz: I am - directing Ackis in his misery. |
| 21:17.00 | End_ | it's a full time job |
| 21:17.08 | Ackis | Torhal|work: blow me |
| 21:17.12 | Torhal|work | Ackis: Newp. |
| 21:17.46 | Ackis | that's not what you said at blizzcon |
| 21:18.03 | Torhal|work | You do love making shit up, don't you? |
| 21:18.04 | Unkle_ | He said "No" loudly and forcefully. |
| 21:18.07 | Torhal|work | Go make up some code. |
| 21:21.12 | Sintacks | what the fuck did blizzard do this time |
| 21:21.25 | Sintacks | http://puu.sh/14dAt |
| 21:25.39 | Amarande | Sintacks, sounds like you tainted something |
| 21:25.56 | Amarande | I've seen the use of special items from the quest log get tainted in the past, so it's probably not new |
| 21:26.41 | Sintacks | I've never had a taint issue with the watch frame |
| 21:27.27 | End_ | I've had issues on very rare occasion |
| 21:27.40 | Amarande | I did once. I was questing Winterspring on a leveling character, mistakenly clicked the thing that you close the arcane tesseracts with while I was still in combat, from the quest log |
| 21:27.46 | End_ | I usually use opie for quest items though so |
| 21:27.53 | Amarande | and apparently that managed to taint that function |
| 21:27.55 | End_ | I wouldn't normally notice |
| 21:28.11 | Amarande | since to continue the quest I had to either reloadUI or use the item the traditional way from inventory |
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| 21:29.03 | Semlar | like a savage |
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| 21:31.25 | kd3 | yay! they fixed the firelands hatchery portal |
| 21:32.25 | End_ | whoa pirates day is green |
| 21:32.35 | End_ | missing texture |
| 21:32.43 | End_ | (in the calendar) |
| 21:33.21 | g0urra | kd3: hm? |
| 21:33.30 | kd3 | for the joust daily |
| 21:33.34 | kd3 | we could go in, we just couldn't leave |
| 21:33.42 | g0urra | oh I haven't done that since..ever |
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| 21:50.25 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/G7H1D |
| 21:58.12 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/v2ZOb |
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| 22:05.01 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/LPWoj :D |
| 22:07.02 | Adys | mikma: http://imgur.com/a/IJiye |
| 22:11.00 | Adys | seriously, whats up with people suddenly yelling about the screenshot watermarking? |
| 22:11.09 | Adys | i thought it was common knowledge for at least 3 years |
| 22:12.51 | End_ | I didn't know |
| 22:12.57 | End_ | I'm not really too concerned though |
| 22:18.16 | cbreak | it was news to me |
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| 22:28.08 | Primer | 1x GatherMate2-1.18\Collector.lua:28: table index is nil |
| 22:28.15 | Primer | Seems to recall that addon was recently updated |
| 22:28.30 | kagaro | its fixed in 1.19 |
| 22:28.39 | Primer | excellent |
| 22:28.46 | kagaro | they changed the fishing spell this patch it seems |
| 22:28.58 | Primer | again? |
| 22:28.59 | Primer | wtf |
| 22:29.08 | durcyn | not again, it just didn't go in until today |
| 22:29.10 | kagaro | ya i had to change the spellid |
| 22:29.14 | kagaro | ohh is that it |
| 22:29.14 | durcyn | 131474 |
| 22:31.20 | Amarande | heh, yeah, I noticed my fishing hotkey disappeared from its spot on my action bars |
| 22:33.07 | Kraps | so are we supposed to be mad about the watermark thing or what, i want get on board with the situation |
| 22:33.09 | Kraps | :p |
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| 22:35.27 | Cairenn | I always watermark my stuff |
| 22:37.56 | durcyn | at least put down some newspaper |
| 22:38.04 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:38.35 | pompy | but you want blizzy watermarkin ur screenshots!? |
| 22:38.49 | foxlit | Kraps: I find that outrage works with anything |
| 22:39.29 | zenzelezz | so that's what this weird stamp thing on the back of my hand is, Cairenn |
| 22:39.37 | Cairenn | heh |
| 22:39.48 | Kraps | i finished my bowl of cereal???? WTF??????????????? |
| 22:40.02 | Kraps | :MAD: |
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| 22:43.39 | Kraps | hey slashdot http://games.slashdot.org/story/12/09/11/149228/activision-blizzard-secretly-watermarking-world-of-warcraft-users |
| 22:44.30 | nebula169 | wish blizzard would just release an announcement calling those guys idiots |
| 22:45.43 | pompy | im sure they are going to clarify this |
| 22:45.49 | pompy | heh |
| 22:45.55 | Humbedooh | or obscure it even more :\ |
| 22:46.07 | Humbedooh | "we may or may not use such techniques..." |
| 22:51.35 | Kraps | http://i.imgur.com/AaT2b.png |
| 22:53.33 | pompy | http://i.imgur.com/msdnY.jpg ... |
| 22:53.41 | Kraps | :3 |
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| 22:58.03 | Kraps | the AMA is obviously going to ask about this |
| 22:59.10 | zenzelezz | color me clueless... what is this AMA people keep talking about? |
| 22:59.30 | kd3 | a few wow designers are doing an 'ask me anything' on /r/wow tomorrow |
| 22:59.39 | zenzelezz | I see |
| 22:59.42 | Kraps | today |
| 22:59.44 | p3lim | zenzelezz: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6521203742?page=3#51 |
| 22:59.57 | Kraps | yesterdays tomorrow |
| 23:00.16 | p3lim | zenzelezz: (first post) |
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| 23:02.01 | Primer | zoning in this patch is...extremely fast |
| 23:02.06 | Primer | Anyone else notice this? |
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| 23:02.52 | Kraps | never been particularly slow for me except for the addons |
| 23:03.51 | zenzelezz | p3lim: I was actually curious about what "AMA" meant, but thanks for the link anyway - looks interesting |
| 23:05.34 | Amarande | Kraps: the demon's name is surveillance, indeed :| |
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| 23:08.23 | Kraps | what |
| 23:10.47 | Amarande | Kraps: I see you don't listen to enough metal :) |
| 23:11.48 | Kraps | you're right |
| 23:11.55 | Kraps | thats my brothers thing |
| 23:12.08 | mckenziemc | any metal is too much metal |
| 23:12.36 | pompy | ~metal |
| 23:12.36 | purl | somebody said metal was music |
| 23:12.38 | pompy | lol. |
| 23:13.00 | mckenziemc | ~factinfo metal |
| 23:13.00 | purl | error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required) |
| 23:13.00 | purl | metal -- created by simon <~simon@dsl-64-130-144-237.telocity.com> at Mon Dec 31 05:43:43 2001 (3907 days); it has been requested 5 times, last by pompy, 24s ago. |
| 23:13.12 | pompy | daym |
| 23:13.31 | pompy | 5 times in 10 years heh |
| 23:15.47 | durcyn | the request totals are per session, if i recall correctly |
| 23:16.46 | mckenziemc | ~factinfo smackis |
| 23:16.46 | purl | error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required) |
| 23:16.46 | purl | smackis -- created by mckenziemc <~Mark@adsl-68-127-51-27.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net> at Sat Jun 25 16:05:25 2011 (444 days); it has been requested 52 times, last by mckenziemc, 2h 39m 14s ago. |
| 23:17.08 | mckenziemc | hmm, 52 does seem a little low for overall |
| 23:18.46 | pompy | per purl session? |
| 23:18.55 | pompy | (9/11/2012 2:57:30 PM) purl left the room (quit: *.net *.split). |
| 23:18.57 | pompy | 4 hours ago |
| 23:26.18 | mckenziemc | net split wouldn't count |
| 23:26.35 | mckenziemc | that's like the room splitting but still existing as two copies |
| 23:27.05 | mckenziemc | ugh |
| 23:27.17 | mckenziemc | was the JP to gold conversion announced as occuring this week? |
| 23:27.43 | Ressy | it was announced before 5.0.1 went live. |
| 23:27.58 | Ressy | That there'd be 2 phases |
| 23:28.02 | mckenziemc | i know |
| 23:28.06 | mckenziemc | that's not my question... |
| 23:28.18 | mckenziemc | i asked if they said this was the week it was going to happen |
| 23:28.28 | mckenziemc | this phase of it |
| 23:30.38 | End_ | I don't remember them announcing when |
| 23:30.47 | Amarande | hm |
| 23:31.00 | Amarande | apparently the cata dungeon and heroic JP bonuses have been cut to one per week, too? |
| 23:31.18 | mckenziemc | not this week but yeah |
| 23:31.26 | mckenziemc | i mean, it's been like that since 5.0.4 |
| 23:32.42 | mckenziemc | "Approximately two weeks after the 5.0.4 Patch" |
| 23:32.52 | mckenziemc | i wasn't expecting it and would've bought heirlooms :*( |
| 23:33.31 | mckenziemc | (quote was about the conversion not the one-per-week bonus) |
| 23:33.44 | mckenziemc | ADD ftw |
| 23:36.13 | mckenziemc | opens ticket requesting blizzard correct the result of user stupidity |
| 23:36.14 | mckenziemc | (jk) |
| 23:36.30 | mckenziemc | i'm sure they get enough of that :) |
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| 23:38.12 | pompy | mckenziemc: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/233092-currency-conversion-before-and-after-mists-of-pandaria/ |
| 23:40.51 | mckenziemc | yes pompy, i just quoted a piece from an equivalent version of that |
| 23:41.27 | pompy | dont you lie to me mister. |
| 23:42.46 | mckenziemc | oh well, guess i can use the gold to buy guild heirlooms xD |
| 23:59.29 | Vladinator | anyone broke the code and figured out how they can get the itemid or displayid of the transmog item? |
