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| 00:12.47 | olafski | woot, only took me a day to do most of the things I wanted to try at 90.. just repetition after that, me like |
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| 00:24.36 | Arrowmaster | hmm $372.98 combo deal on newegg for a i5-3450, asus p8z77-v pro, and 8gb of gskill ddr3 1600 |
| 00:26.33 | Arrowmaster | thinking about getting it just to hopefully get a working desktop again |
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| 00:29.26 | mckenziemc | don't forget to ship it to my address |
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| 00:39.06 | Arrowmaster | and i just remembered i have to get a new HSF too |
| 00:42.56 | Arrowmaster | or not, mine supports lga1156 which is the same mount as lga1155 right? |
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| 00:57.27 | scotepi | how do i tell what item in a bag the mouse is ucrrnetly over? how do i get the bag/slot it? |
| 00:57.28 | scotepi | id |
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| 01:13.23 | pompy | !lua bagslot |
| 01:13.23 | batbot | pompy: > nil |
| 01:13.33 | pompy | ~lua bagslot |
| 01:13.41 | pompy | !api bagslot |
| 01:13.42 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'bagslot': GUILDBANKBAGSLOTS_CHANGED, PLAYERBANKBAGSLOTS_CHANGED |
| 01:15.20 | scotepi | hmm some more reasearch it looks like I need to know the frame the mouse is currently over... now trying figure out how to find that |
| 01:16.20 | pompy | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:16.34 | pompy | scotepi: ^ |
| 01:16.36 | scotepi | i know thats for debuging but what can i use in my code? |
| 01:17.21 | pompy | <nameofframe>:<some function> ? heh |
| 01:17.36 | scotepi | if i have my bags open, i want to find the current container and slot id of what is under the mouse |
| 01:17.48 | scotepi | pompy, how do i get <nameofframe> |
| 01:18.00 | pompy | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:18.05 | scotepi | gah |
| 01:18.07 | pompy | and use that framename in your code |
| 01:18.10 | scotepi | thats for debuging tho |
| 01:18.31 | scotepi | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:18.35 | pompy | you arent finding out the name of the frame programmatically! |
| 01:18.54 | pompy | !api inventory |
| 01:18.54 | lua_bot | Found 26 possible matches for 'inventory'. Please be more specific or check Google search results: http://is.gd/O6LG29 |
| 01:19.01 | pompy | !api inventoryitem |
| 01:19.02 | lua_bot | Found 16 possible matches for 'inventoryitem'. Please be more specific or check Google search results: http://is.gd/O6LG29 |
| 01:19.10 | pompy | !api inventoryitemslotid |
| 01:19.10 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'inventoryitemslotid'. |
| 01:19.12 | pompy | heh |
| 01:19.41 | pompy | !api getinventoryslotinfo |
| 01:19.41 | lua_bot | GetInventorySlotInfo: Returns information about an inventory slot (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventorySlotInfo) |
| 01:19.46 | pompy | maybe that. |
| 01:19.51 | scotepi | from what i can tell you need to a frame to get the what us under the mouse, no function for it. so how can tell what frames are currently under the mouse programicly? |
| 01:20.27 | kd3 | there's an api call for that, as framestack has to be able to call it to show what you're hovering over |
| 01:20.28 | kd3 | sec |
| 01:20.45 | pompy | !api frame |
| 01:20.46 | lua_bot | Found 215 possible matches for 'frame'. Please be more specific or check Google search results: http://is.gd/O6LG29 |
| 01:20.48 | pompy | hehe |
| 01:22.34 | kd3 | ./run DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage( GetMouseFocus():GetName() ); |
| 01:22.47 | scotepi | to bad there is nothing like GameTooltip:IsItem() GameTooltip:GetItemLocation() :GetItemInfo() |
| 01:23.27 | scotepi | thank you kd3 |
| 01:23.43 | kd3 | no, but it's trivial to iterate over the bag slots/inventory ids, generate a table of IDs and compare that way |
| 01:23.47 | Arrowmaster | you can do some of that |
| 01:24.08 | pompy | scotepi: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetContainerItemInfo |
| 01:24.21 | scotepi | rofl pompy |
| 01:24.23 | pompy | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetContainerItemID |
| 01:24.24 | Arrowmaster | you can get the link of whats in the gametooltip and figure out from the link if its an item |
| 01:24.42 | pompy | what scotepi!? |
| 01:24.50 | mckenziemc | ~fail pompy |
| 01:24.50 | purl | pompy: FAIL! |
| 01:25.08 | scotepi | GetContainerItemInfo is pointless without the IDs |
| 01:25.19 | pompy | ok? |
| 01:25.26 | pompy | then i linked something right after! |
| 01:25.39 | scotepi | still requires the ids |
| 01:25.49 | mckenziemc | you mean before, pompy |
| 01:26.01 | pompy | i linked the ID function right after |
| 01:26.26 | mckenziemc | nvm my fail |
| 01:26.37 | mckenziemc | ~mckenziemc-- |
| 01:26.42 | scotepi | it still required the container and slot id |
| 01:27.00 | kd3 | hits up in his scrollback a few times |
| 01:27.05 | kd3 | no, but it's trivial to iterate over the bag slots/inventory ids, generate a table of IDs and compare that way |
| 01:27.16 | mckenziemc | "(6:26:52 PM) purl: please don't karma yourself" ........ |
| 01:27.42 | mckenziemc | ~purl-- |
| 01:30.49 | kd3 | ah, statistics: There are 5.6 popes per square mile in Vatican City. |
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| 01:37.15 | pompy | ~random |
| 01:37.24 | pompy | lol |
| 01:37.25 | mckenziemc | ~sequential |
| 01:37.46 | pompy | ~fail mckenziemc |
| 01:37.46 | purl | mckenziemc: FAIL! |
| 01:37.50 | pompy | your turn |
| 01:38.38 | mckenziemc | passes (gas in pompy's direction) |
| 01:43.34 | scotepi | is there any way to pause a script for like 2sec? |
| 01:43.39 | scotepi | macro |
| 01:44.14 | scotepi | makes me wish my bank alt was a healer >< |
| 01:55.08 | Maldivia | scotepi: no |
| 01:58.29 | kd3 | heh, a handful of reports of the prez getting picked up by the pizza shop owner |
| 01:58.41 | Kraps | ~random |
| 01:58.43 | kd3 | I wonder how much puckering the SS guys had to control |
| 01:59.09 | pompy | purl likes to give us zip codes for ~random |
| 01:59.09 | purl | ACTION runs and gives to give us zip codes for ~random a big bear-hug. |
| 01:59.19 | pompy | :O |
| 02:01.31 | mckenziemc | o.O |
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| 02:02.34 | pompy | shit. |
| 02:17.49 | Esamynn | pompy: now look what you've done! |
| 02:18.14 | pompy | aHhHHhhH |
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| 03:22.11 | onyxfox | Hey everyone! *waves* |
| 03:31.35 | mckenziemc | hi |
| 03:55.01 | Mr_Rabies | urgh |
| 03:55.31 | Mr_Rabies | is there something out there to help me arrange spell bars? i just rearranged mine in a huge way for one spec, and i'd like the other similar :/ |
| 03:55.52 | End_ | there are action bar savers |
| 03:56.06 | End_ | but not aware of anything other than that which might help you |
| 03:58.53 | kd3 | doesn't dual spec automatically switch bars? |
| 04:00.30 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, but i want to basically use my other spec as a template for the new one |
| 04:12.47 | Mr_Rabies | i guess i can always compare screenshots, but ehhh |
| 04:12.59 | Mr_Rabies | so many spells :< |
| 04:14.15 | Mr_Rabies | http://i.imgur.com/Ygm79.jpg http://i.imgur.com/JM4xU.jpg |
| 04:14.56 | Mr_Rabies | kinda messed up :X |
| 04:15.15 | Mr_Rabies | (the random ones overlapping/floating aren't visible normally, they just get called depending on which form i'm in |
| 04:15.30 | Mr_Rabies | ) damn you, parenthesis, my nemesis |
| 04:23.59 | Fisker | punches kd3 |
| 04:26.05 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 04:26.53 | Fisker | :'( |
| 04:27.36 | kd3 | combat. what? |
| 04:28.32 | Fisker | i just punch people |
| 04:28.44 | Fisker | and download torrents |
| 04:29.17 | Fisker | i think my ISP may have some levels of contempt for me in a few days |
| 04:29.50 | Amarande | Fisker: are the people you punch employees of your ISP? |
| 04:30.01 | Fisker | nope |
| 04:30.17 | Amarande | stockholders? :) |
| 04:31.10 | Fisker | nah |
| 04:31.14 | Fisker | i'm just downloading a lot |
| 04:37.13 | batbot | Shirik fears to duel a bot, what a coward. |
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| 04:43.18 | Thunder_Child | So much hate batrick |
| 04:44.15 | Fisker | Thunder_Child |
| 04:45.59 | Thunder_Child | Fisker sleep |
| 04:46.19 | Fisker | no Thunder_Child |
| 04:46.22 | Fisker | i'm going to work |
| 04:49.02 | batrick | no u |
| 04:52.30 | Fisker | hey batrick |
| 04:55.31 | p3lim | Anyone know of a plain, circular texture that exists in the game, preferably white? |
| 04:55.58 | Neffi | do you have access to the Texture object? |
| 04:56.07 | p3lim | Yes |
| 04:56.27 | Neffi | SetPortraitToTexture( TextureObject, 'Interface\\Buttons\\WHITE8X8' ) |
| 04:56.34 | Neffi | applies a circle mask to a texture |
| 04:56.59 | p3lim | I'm gonna use the texture for a statusbar, not sure if that works well |
| 04:57.07 | Neffi | Maybe |
| 04:57.19 | p3lim | I'll test :GetStatusBarTexture() |
| 04:57.23 | Neffi | When you :SetWidth, try doing :SetTexCoord too |
| 04:57.43 | Neffi | Use a pure texture, or scan the StatusBar's regions w/ GetRegions for the texturee |
| 05:03.57 | Neffi | p3lim: After you set the texture to the status bar, SetPortraitTexture( t:GetStatusBarTexture(), 'texture') does indeed work, makes it circular, and the status bar DOES function |
| 05:04.10 | Neffi | but Interface\\Buttons\\WHITE8x8 is giving me graphical corruption for some reason |
| 05:04.15 | p3lim | Same issue here |
| 05:04.25 | p3lim | Multicolored and messed up |
| 05:04.46 | Neffi | And the pattern of the color changed depending on the capitalization of the texture path.Strange. |
| 05:05.04 | Neffi | I guess make your own in PS |
| 05:05.09 | Fisker | nice |
| 05:05.18 | p3lim | Or use SetTexCoord :) |
| 05:05.22 | Fisker | apparently Blizzard is watermarking screenshots so they can identify players with it |
| 05:05.24 | Fisker | lol'd |
| 05:06.30 | Fisker | this is probably gonna go down well when the public gets a whiff of it |
| 05:07.37 | Neffi | Pure texture causes corruption too |
| 05:11.47 | Neffi | Yeah I doubt that's what's going on |
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| 05:25.11 | durcyn | Fisker: proof? |
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| 05:53.46 | kd3 | gack |
| 05:53.49 | kd3 | 'character not found' |
| 05:53.59 | kd3 | that's scary to see. guess the worldserver crashed |
| 05:56.41 | starlon | no worries. there's always the outdoors |
| 05:56.51 | starlon | cringes at the thought. |
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| 06:07.37 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 06:07.45 | kd3 | hm? |
| 06:08.06 | Fisker | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4253971858?page=14#279 |
| 06:11.37 | AcidWeb | O.o Carbonite updated. |
| 06:11.52 | nevcairiel | a sad day :( |
| 06:12.37 | Cairenn|afk | not for me |
| 06:12.52 | nevcairiel | carbonite is one of the remaining evils in the addon world! |
| 06:13.02 | Cairenn|afk | now we'll stop being spammed by everyone and their dog that seem to think I can somehow magically make them fix it |
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| 06:16.58 | AcidWeb | I must admit that I dont expected tat. |
| 06:17.02 | AcidWeb | *that |
| 06:17.20 | Fisker | can you dig it kd3 ? |
| 06:17.25 | kd3 | meh |
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| 06:18.04 | Fisker | :'( |
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| 08:58.56 | olafski | mm carbonite :D |
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| 09:33.58 | Industrial | http://i.imgur.com/9bmtJ.jpg |
| 09:34.01 | Industrial | paladin is fun |
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| 09:41.20 | sintAcks | nice buttons, Industrial |
| 09:41.22 | sintAcks | coughs |
| 09:41.25 | sintAcks | walks away |
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| 09:44.30 | bluspacecow | another restart.oh boy.BRB |
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| 10:19.02 | bluspacecow | ~wowalert |
| 10:19.02 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
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| 10:21.53 | Industrial | sintAcks: its the buttons on the side of my mouse. |
| 10:22.02 | Industrial | (razer naga) |
| 10:22.39 | Industrial | it pages on all modifiers |
| 10:22.46 | Industrial | (so 8 bars) |
| 10:31.53 | bluspacecow | ~d3alert |
| 10:31.53 | purl | http://us.launcher.battle.net/service/d3/alert/en-us (US) or http://eu.launcher.battle.net/service/d3/alert/en-gb (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
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| 12:04.55 | Kurapica | Just find a bug in Securehandlers.lua. In the Wrapped_Drag function, when call CallRestrictedClosure, it use 'control' and not 'controlHandle ' as parameter, so the workingEnv's ctrlHandle will always be nil or just taint. |
| 12:07.52 | Elkano | bugsInSecureStuff++; |
| 12:10.21 | Fisker | ElkanoMad++ |
| 12:10.22 | Fisker | ; |
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| 12:14.35 | Semlar | the secret ingredient is taint |
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| 12:30.01 | Adys | not really secret now |
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| 12:51.02 | neutronimity | Hey join my guild and we will help you lvl 3 guild with 2 tabs with lots free stuff press accept |
| 12:51.11 | neutronimity | sighs fitfully |
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| 13:07.26 | AcidWeb | God. This carbonite topic on wowi forums make me sick.\ |
| 13:07.38 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, carbonite! |
| 13:07.56 | mitch0 | AcidWeb: why do you read it then? |
| 13:08.15 | AcidWeb | That is good question ;p |
| 13:08.31 | Lopeppeppy | I'd read it. Good LOLs I'm sure. |
| 13:09.06 | AcidWeb | Tons of PPL with issues there. |
| 13:09.36 | TMc51 | @Neutronimity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viqT1v4R5JY |
| 13:09.47 | AcidWeb | "IM CARBONITE USER! YOU PUNNY AUTHOR HOW DEAR YOU DONT BEG FOR MERCY! RAWR!" |
| 13:10.09 | AcidWeb | *DARE |
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| 13:12.16 | foxlit | I wonder why Cairenn and co don't just moderate the shit out of that forum. |
| 13:13.46 | Lopeppeppy | Way too much work. Once you start down that slope... |
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| 13:14.18 | foxlit | What, down the terrible terrible slope of moderating forums? :) |
| 13:15.04 | TMc51 | its much easier to pretend that area of the site doesn't exist. moderating it would just bring down their IQs since they'd have to look at the stupidity posted there. |
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| 13:16.11 | Antze | could someome please explain me wtf carbonite matter is, in several simple words, without starting out too much flood? |
| 13:16.31 | Antze | from the context I realize the flood could happen... |
| 13:16.43 | foxlit | An addon that does everything |
| 13:16.52 | foxlit | In fact, it does so much stuff, that nobody is really sure what it does. |
| 13:17.40 | Antze | and the forums?... |
| 13:17.59 | TMc51 | Just your typical bitching and moaning about everything. |
| 13:18.19 | foxlit | "featured projects" on wowi get their own forums rather than simple addon comment threads. |
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| 13:20.35 | Vladinator | carbonite got an update I read in the forums :P |
| 13:20.50 | Vladinator | update might be a bit strong, more like bandaid or life support extension |
| 13:21.50 | AcidWeb | Yes. And some "individuals" now cry that carbonite authors dared to have life and release patch so late. |
| 13:23.31 | TMc51 | Don't forget the crying about them not giving credit to somebody else that tried doing updates or something. |
| 13:25.15 | AcidWeb | On the other hand carbonite team just radiates "We dont want to develop it anymore". |
| 13:25.18 | foxlit | "Warning. Probability calculator damaged. 18 samples analyzed. 6 samples destroyed in analysis. Estimate probability of crystal destruction in next analysis." |
| 13:25.46 | AcidWeb | haha i loved that quest line. |
| 13:26.01 | foxlit | "Sample 35: Crystal, 5 units long, 6 units wide, 2 units deep. Volume = WARNING: Volume calculation uncofirmed. Manual input required." |
| 13:26.05 | AcidWeb | So many ppl failing on simple math. |
| 13:26.57 | foxlit | "Analyzing crystal lattice dimensions. Length: 5.8 units. Width 3.8 units. Calculating area. Calculation complete. User verification?" |
| 13:27.16 | Lopeppeppy | Carbonite has been around for a long time. They're overdue for burnout. |
| 13:27.46 | Ressy | I used to use it. Spammy thing though unless you disable a lot of the options. |
| 13:28.28 | foxlit | AcidWeb: doing basic math for quest credit sounds suspiciously like learning |
| 13:28.33 | TMc51 | The only thing I ever liked about it was the map. Too much bloat to ever use it for just that, though. |
| 13:29.05 | Vladinator | I think Carbonite don't wish to overhault it all or to actively develop it any longer, but it is their product and they wish to keep it for themselves, but I don't think they will go as far as to sent these "stop releasing patches for our property" mails, if they do then I think that's stupid :P |
| 13:29.18 | neutronimity | Only thing I used carbonite for was farming materials and routes .. |
| 13:29.58 | AcidWeb | Only part of carbonite i needed is a proper battleground map. I was bored with tons of other usless features so i wrote bg map myself. |
| 13:30.03 | AcidWeb | foxlit: :-) |
| 13:30.10 | Lopeppeppy | It's theirs. They have the right to say, "we're closing the doors. That means no help from the peanut gallery." |
| 13:30.34 | foxlit | I feel like they should've thrown in a few not-quite-so-basic questions |
| 13:31.12 | AcidWeb | Sure i agree that is right. But they sould say that aloud. |
| 13:31.33 | AcidWeb | Not envelop with Soon™ fog. |
| 13:33.08 | Vladinator | I think when you release a product you have a certain responsibility to your customers, it was paid before and now its not, so the difference is, since it's not a good income as it was, they keep it around for donations but don't like someone else to take their donations away :P |
| 13:33.51 | Ressy | The fan updater was saying to donate to the original creator of Carbonite if they wanted to donate tho. |
| 13:34.08 | Vladinator | I don't think the devs made him stop, or? :/ |
| 13:34.49 | Vladinator | anyway, I hope they don't, I mean if you don't look after your product and it's popular someone else always will, that's addon law 101 |
| 13:34.50 | Vladinator | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:34.54 | Ressy | I think its a dickish move on the Carbonite author imo to not allow the fan update when it fixes problems and he didn't feel like doing it cuz he wasn't getting paid for it. |
| 13:35.07 | Vladinator | when an addon on wow is outdated too long someone fan updates or makes a new version based on that ^^ |
| 13:35.07 | Ressy | especially as the fan author was saying donate to the original author. |
| 13:35.12 | AcidWeb | Vladinator: He stopped already.\ |
| 13:35.25 | Vladinator | too bad |
| 13:35.50 | Vladinator | carbonite design is so back when it was released, code is compressed to the max making it impossible to update anything :P |
| 13:36.09 | Vladinator | only difference now is it's not obfuscated any more but same code ^^ |
| 13:37.59 | Vladinator | yesterday I was kind of busy, but, about legality :P |
| 13:38.28 | Vladinator | remember what I asked about diff-patch? in itself it's not illegal or against anything, but if you let the user apply it to a file let's say, then it's the user doing the "crime" and not you :P |
| 13:38.48 | Lopeppeppy | Why do you sound remarkably like The Pirate Bay? |
| 13:38.59 | Vladinator | if you really want you can make diff patches and release those, on their own they don't work as you need to apply it on something, just an idea how to get around the issue with updating copyrighted addons :P |
| 13:39.11 | Vladinator | because I think outside the box? :P |
| 13:39.34 | Vladinator | anyway just foor for thought |
| 13:39.47 | Lopeppeppy | You're still offering modification to someone's copyright. They'll be looking at YOU as the source of the modification. |
| 13:40.41 | Vladinator | I don't think it's quite the same :P |
| 13:41.50 | alestane | It's not quite the same as distributing copyrighted content yourself, but one of the reasons WoW was able to litigate against the makers of Glider was that they were distributing a product that had no use except in conjunction with WoW. |
| 13:42.08 | Vladinator | yeah |
| 13:42.30 | alestane | And copyright of a work extends to the right to control the distribution of derivative works. |
| 13:44.26 | Lopeppeppy | So yeah. The same. |
| 13:44.30 | Lopeppeppy | pounces alestane. |
| 13:44.38 | alestane | Oof! |
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| 13:49.51 | g0urra | hi |
| 13:50.15 | Fisker | hey g0urra |
| 13:50.27 | g0urra | anyone who can screenshot the loot tables from RFC bosses and link them? |
| 13:50.43 | Vladinator | sec g0urra |
| 13:51.06 | g0urra | I'm at work atm so I can't play WoW |
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| 14:12.50 | Vladinator | http://i.imgur.com/1u1F3.jpg |
| 14:12.54 | Vladinator | for you g0urra |
| 14:13.25 | g0urra | ty |
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| 14:15.52 | Vladinator | with mastery available pre 85 there are 80 twinks now :P |
| 14:15.55 | Vladinator | 100% mastery |
| 14:16.03 | Vladinator | nice to see math works properly :3 |
| 14:20.57 | Vladinator | why isn't the cave lit up when you have a fire in it? http://i.imgur.com/xUtXR.jpg |
| 14:21.07 | Vladinator | also a fire in a cave with no oxygen (under water) FUNNY :D |
| 14:21.15 | nevcairiel | because wow graphics are old? :P |
| 14:21.27 | Vladinator | I remember they had light on the floor before |
| 14:21.30 | Vladinator | but now it's gone with this path :P |
| 14:21.32 | Vladinator | patch* |
| 14:21.40 | Vladinator | probably changed lighting and broke the old places ^^ |
| 14:21.44 | foxlit | Vladinator: meh, Zaphod's just this guy, you know... |
| 14:21.47 | mitch0 | it's the light-absorving moth |
| 14:22.02 | Krapsy | wow needs to import the graphics and rogue tanking from rift |
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| 14:22.45 | Vladinator | I only have a problem with the light emission being gone now with 5.X patch :P the rest is fine :# |
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| 14:26.01 | Adys | ~seen tuller |
| 14:26.08 | purl | tuller <~tuller@c-76-21-187-154.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 1d 21h 17m 5s ago, saying: 'nevcairiel: i came up with a stupid idea today: give action bars a secondary header that's [modifier]enable;disable and force rechecking of the vehicle page'. |
| 14:28.26 | Vladinator | I like how quest givers plan their quest handouts; "Hey you, help me out here for some gold and these old boots. Take this orb and I swear if you point it at a shark you will mind control it, then you jump on it's back and you ride around killing naga with it! Kill 12 of them WHILE ON THE SHARK, then come back to me, m'kay?" |
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| 14:39.06 | Fisker | hey rtharper |
| 14:39.07 | Fisker | famous? |
| 14:39.11 | rtharper | hihi fisker |
| 14:39.12 | rtharper | am I? |
| 14:39.17 | Vladinator | purl, is rtharper famous? |
| 14:39.19 | Fisker | i'm asking |
| 14:39.22 | Fisker | i'm famous |
| 14:39.26 | Vladinator | purl doesn't reply, you're not |
| 14:39.47 | rtharper | I think more so than I am |
| 14:47.12 | rtharper | Fisker: I'm not sure I want to be famous, it sounds like work |
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| 14:47.26 | Fisker | no work required so far |
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| 14:54.37 | Vladinator | halloween has buckets you visit around the world, what other events has this, summer bonfires and elune festival has the elders, anything else? |
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| 14:58.45 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 14:58.49 | Fisker | i'm famous |
| 14:58.52 | Fisker | want to touch me? |
| 14:58.54 | Stanzilla | yes pls |
| 14:58.56 | Stanzilla | why famous |
| 14:59.02 | Fisker | http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17yndvwsao9hsjpg/original.jpg |
| 14:59.18 | Stanzilla | lol nice |
| 14:59.21 | Stanzilla | how did that happen |
| 14:59.35 | Stanzilla | are you friending all the famous people? |
| 14:59.35 | Fisker | F is pretty close to I |
| 15:00.05 | mckenziemc | cool story |
| 15:00.12 | Fisker | mac mckenziemc ? |
| 15:00.15 | Fisker | mad* |
| 15:00.19 | mckenziemc | no, PC |
| 15:02.28 | Semlar | vladinator: http://www.wowhead.com/events=1#holidays this might help |
| 15:02.56 | Lopeppeppy | Children's Week! Woot. |
| 15:03.07 | bluspacecow | oh hai |
| 15:03.08 | mckenziemc | pokes Lopeppeppy |
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| 15:04.51 | mckenziemc | Torhal. |
| 15:05.54 | bluspacecow | Torhal. |
| 15:11.46 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, mckenziemc. Where's my stinking entree? |
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| 15:18.07 | Fisker | double famous Stanzilla |
| 15:18.09 | Fisker | whoop whoop |
| 15:18.14 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFrL6-OhN94 |
| 15:18.18 | Fisker | this is going into the history books |
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| 15:18.58 | Stanzilla | second? |
| 15:20.10 | Stanzilla | oh there you are |
| 15:20.11 | Stanzilla | nice |
| 15:20.17 | Stanzilla | 0:50 |
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| 15:20.59 | Stanzilla | that onscreen keyboard is fucking cool |
| 15:24.39 | Arrowmaster | cool but its going to take forever to get used to |
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| 15:34.12 | Arrowmaster | am i going too cheap if i get http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131820 instead of http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131819 |
| 15:34.34 | Arrowmaster | im not really seeing much of a diference in them other than some internal usb 3 headers |
| 15:34.59 | Semlar | well, one has the word "PRO" in its name |
| 15:35.01 | ZorbaTHut | asus tends to be good-quality even if you don't shell out for the top-end mobos. oughta be fine, assuming it's not missing features you want |
| 15:35.05 | Semlar | so it must be better |
| 15:35.08 | Stanzilla | hugs his Sabertooth |
| 15:35.19 | nilyaK | semlar, that's what I was going to say lol -.- |
| 15:35.43 | Subspace | Plus it costs more. We all know more expensive things are better, always. |
| 15:35.57 | Semlar | that's true |
| 15:36.05 | Semlar | like monster cables |
| 15:36.44 | nilyaK | what's a monster cable? |
| 15:36.45 | Stanzilla | mikma: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a89P6oHHREQ&feature=g-all-u |
| 15:37.12 | Stanzilla | ok had to turn that off after a minute |
| 15:37.17 | Stanzilla | brain dmg included |
| 15:38.26 | nevcairiel | whats so special about this gangnam style anyway, i must be missing the meme or something |
| 15:38.49 | Stanzilla | it got hyped by the sc2/dota2 community |
| 15:39.08 | Subspace | Yeah, also he is using satire, which I guess the koreans don't normally use |
| 15:39.22 | Subspace | So it is kinda an American way of poking fun at the Korean elite. |
| 15:39.32 | Corrodias | it's something from south korea that isn't starcraft |
| 15:39.39 | Corrodias | or news about someone dying from playing too much starcraft |
| 15:41.34 | Semlar | nilyak: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/AudioQuest+-+Diamond+3.3%27+High-Speed+HDMI+Cable+-+Dark+Gray/Black/2383276.p;jsessionid=310CCC6FDFA4F4B48027114FF363F3FC.bbolsp-app04-32?id=1218324437192&skuId=2383276#BVRRWidgetID audioquest but close enough |
| 15:42.02 | nevcairiel | you dont have such cables? |
| 15:42.57 | Semlar | 94 reviews |
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| 15:52.12 | mikma | stanzilla: not bad |
| 15:52.25 | nilyaK | ... wtf |
| 15:52.34 | nilyaK | who would ever buy that o.O |
| 15:53.02 | nevcairiel | crazy people think it makes their picture look better |
| 15:53.35 | nevcairiel | or audio sound better |
| 15:53.54 | nilyaK | haha this is awesome @ reviews |
| 15:54.08 | nevcairiel | probably a lot are trolls |
| 15:54.09 | Subspace | Placebo effect anyone? (Now with no pill or sugar needed! TM) |
| 15:54.13 | nilyaK | so far, 100% |
| 15:54.17 | Semlar | of course the fact that it's a digital signal means it either works or it doesn't, there's not really any in-between |
| 15:54.18 | nilyaK | no serious reviews |
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| 16:40.45 | TC-Work | Stanzilla: the worst part is i heard it on the radio this morning. |
| 16:42.35 | Stanzilla | TC-Work: gangnam style? |
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| 16:42.43 | TC-Work | Stanzilla: yes |
| 16:42.47 | Stanzilla | sick |
| 16:43.16 | TC-Work | I mean i saw the music vid when it was first released but i did not think it was going to take off like that |
| 16:43.31 | TC-Work | they also had the artist in house for an interview |
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| 17:03.37 | Krapsy | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.02 | Lopeppeppy | Tee hee, you made a pun. |
| 17:05.42 | Krapsy | haha its not even me, some mad guy on the eu forum |
| 17:06.08 | bluipodcow | She mad ? |
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| 17:22.00 | Jamash | open, upvote, profit: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=94128543 |
| 17:23.54 | Corrodias | will it only be available through steam? well, it'll probably be more convenient than a separate thing |
| 17:25.25 | Mr_Rabies | i don't see why it would be helpful at all for it not to be available through steam |
| 17:25.41 | Mr_Rabies | you need SDK base 2007, and that requires steam :o |
| 17:26.32 | Corrodias | yeah, though i know you can just drop mods like this in the sourcemods folder if you want |
| 17:26.51 | Corrodias | i was just sort of wondering aloud |
| 17:33.29 | Adys | good god |
| 17:33.34 | Adys | blizz bugged the touring rocket |
| 17:33.44 | TMc51 | how? |
| 17:33.44 | Adys | passengers are seated the wrong way around |
| 17:34.51 | Lopeppeppy | Does the rocket not work? Or just looks odd? |
| 17:34.54 | Adys | http://i.imgur.com/r19pG.png |
| 17:34.56 | Adys | like this |
| 17:35.54 | Lopeppeppy | If it's not broken, I'm not sure I'd label it a "bug" so much as a "flaw". They get different priorities in my brain. |
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| 17:37.26 | Jamash | it's a display bug, not a functionality bug |
| 17:37.28 | Jamash | still a bug |
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| 17:37.37 | Adys | no |
| 17:37.39 | Adys | its not a display bug |
| 17:37.43 | Adys | its not a functionality bug |
| 17:37.45 | Adys | its a retarded bug |
| 17:37.48 | Adys | how does this happen |
| 17:38.09 | Jamash | the same way all bugs happen |
| 17:38.14 | Jamash | something changed in the matrix |
| 17:38.23 | Jamash | meow |
| 17:39.07 | Jamash | best 5.0.4 bug: http://imgur.com/a/I53yY |
| 17:39.12 | zenzelezz | I was amused at the value display issue in SWTOR back at launch... though it was fun to see I had 6387.249823462347 points of reputation |
| 17:39.21 | zenzelezz | you'd think someone would have noticed |
| 17:39.27 | cbreak | very detailed. |
| 17:39.29 | Adys | Jamash: wtf is that? |
| 17:39.41 | Jamash | stacking druids? |
| 17:39.53 | Jamash | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6413084369 |
| 17:40.24 | Jamash | post #19 explains how to do it |
| 17:40.39 | cbreak | it's a tower of cows? |
| 17:40.45 | Jamash | stags |
| 17:42.46 | Adys | and i have thunderfury :D |
| 17:42.52 | Adys | finafuckingly |
| 17:42.56 | zenzelezz | grats |
| 17:43.14 | zenzelezz | I was very surprised I didn't get an achievement when I got mine |
| 17:43.20 | zenzelezz | until I learned you had to equip it |
| 17:43.21 | Jamash | nuh? |
| 17:43.24 | Jamash | ah |
| 17:43.24 | cbreak | I have atiesh shards... |
| 17:43.24 | Adys | you have to equip themsince 4.0 |
| 17:43.24 | Adys | 4.3* |
| 17:43.24 | cbreak | cries |
| 17:43.29 | Adys | cbreak: know the feeling :( |
| 17:43.31 | Jamash | comforts cbreak |
| 17:45.31 | Jamash | so wait, you can still get thunderfury, but not benediction or rhok'delar? |
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| 17:45.49 | zenzelezz | you can't get those? |
| 17:45.58 | cbreak | did they remove molten core? |
| 17:46.15 | Jamash | I'm just going by wowpedia |
| 17:46.23 | Jamash | says you can't do the hunter or priest epic questlines anymore |
| 17:46.34 | zenzelezz | interesting |
| 17:47.05 | zenzelezz | perhaps something to do with the quests, might have had to redo them after the sundering |
| 17:47.25 | bluipodcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:47.46 | bluipodcow | Stacking droods r silly :P |
| 17:47.58 | zenzelezz | Thunderfury is not very much about outside quests |
| 17:48.25 | Jamash | there's still the silithus event |
| 17:48.36 | zenzelezz | yup, but Silithus was relatively untouched |
| 17:48.49 | Jamash | yeah |
| 17:49.00 | zenzelezz | and my guess about the outdoor quests being a reason is entirely speculation |
| 17:50.39 | Jamash | I'm certain the outdoor quests are the reason for the priest and hunter quests |
| 17:50.45 | Jamash | they're fairly extensively scriptd |
| 17:50.47 | Jamash | *scripted |
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| 17:52.22 | Jamash | and the abilities that some of the scripts use don't exist anymore |
| 18:12.37 | Adys | rofl |
| 18:12.39 | Adys | oh blizzard |
| 18:12.39 | Adys | http://i.imgur.com/yIyb2.png |
| 18:12.45 | Adys | is there any old content you CANT break? |
| 18:13.07 | Gnarfoz | doubt that constitutes "broken content" |
| 18:13.08 | Jamash | nope! |
| 18:13.18 | Adys | Gnarfoz: it constitutes breaking content |
| 18:13.21 | Gnarfoz | probably still works just fine |
| 18:13.22 | Jamash | I'm sure that orc would considered it broken |
| 18:13.46 | Gnarfoz | does it work? =] |
| 18:13.55 | Adys | yes, its not broken functionality wise |
| 18:13.59 | Adys | its still broken graphically |
| 18:15.05 | Fisker | that hat won't function anywhere |
| 18:15.09 | Fisker | not even at a box social |
| 18:15.15 | Adys | i get it |
| 18:15.18 | Adys | because theres box in it |
| 18:15.37 | Fisker | go make a wow watermark decoder btw |
| 18:15.41 | Fisker | i want to see what it says |
| 18:15.46 | Adys | ? |
| 18:15.57 | Fisker | Blizzard have been tagging screenshots since 2010 with account information |
| 18:15.58 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 18:16.17 | Gnarfoz | </tinfoil hat> ? |
| 18:16.27 | bluipodcow | Lol risker |
| 18:16.42 | Fisker | nope Gnarfoz |
| 18:16.54 | Gnarfoz | well, if you like it so much, you can keep wearing it |
| 18:16.57 | Fisker | there's a pretty big thread about it on a certain site i probably shouldn't be linking here |
| 18:17.11 | Gnarfoz | why, is there some law against it? |
| 18:17.22 | bluipodcow | Loooool |
| 18:17.38 | Fisker | yeah Gnarfoz |
| 18:17.51 | Fisker | making Cairenn|afk sad is an offense punishable by death |
| 18:18.06 | Gnarfoz | also, there's like, what, 0.00001% people on mmowend who actually have a high enough IQ to breathe? |
| 18:18.20 | Gnarfoz | and I even managed to accidentally obscure it! |
| 18:18.32 | Fisker | lol! |
| 18:18.37 | Gnarfoz | yes. |
| 18:18.42 | Fisker | indeed |
| 18:18.53 | Gnarfoz | so, link, you coward :F |
| 18:19.09 | Gnarfoz | is it possible they're using godaddy dns or hosting? :D site seems unreachable |
| 18:19.29 | Gnarfoz | yeah. |
| 18:19.31 | Gnarfoz | haha ;D |
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| 18:31.08 | bluworkcow | i go homes njows |
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| 18:43.04 | kagaro | did wow interface go down? |
| 18:44.08 | Esamynn|work | works fine for me |
| 18:45.27 | Stanzilla | whole zam shizzle seems to have problems atm |
| 18:45.33 | Stanzilla | wowhead and thottbott were down for me, too |
| 18:45.53 | Humbedooh | Stanzilla: maybe they're godaddy sites |
| 18:46.03 | pompy | lol godaddy |
| 18:46.15 | pompy | yeah wowhead was being weird for a little bit last night |
| 18:46.53 | durcyn | their cdn's been wonky for a few weeks |
| 18:47.39 | pompy | Cairenn|afk, dolby: kagaro's above question |
| 18:47.41 | pompy | heh |
| 18:48.31 | dolby | no didnt go down, internet provider peering issues with our dns |
| 18:49.34 | Humbedooh | 'anonymous' being retarded once more :) |
| 18:49.58 | Esamynn|work | dolby: d'oh, that's no fun :( |
| 18:50.19 | Humbedooh | lost 7 domains today as well due to this :\ |
| 19:05.02 | Arrowmaster | Humbedooh: why are you using godaddy? |
| 19:09.35 | Humbedooh | Arrowmaster: because I'm lazy and it was cheap at the time |
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| 19:16.54 | Sintacks | Industrial, i figured you had a naga, but my point was the buttons being in the middle of your screen |
| 19:18.32 | pompy | http://kotaku.com/5941793/valve-is-bringing-steam-to-your-tv-today-watch-out-consoles |
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| 19:22.56 | Industrial | Sintacks: allows me to focus my attention to only there. Now I just need player buffs on the player unitframe :P |
| 19:23.14 | Industrial | then I achieve ultimate laziness |
| 19:23.24 | Industrial | (I no longer have to move my eyes) |
| 19:24.49 | Adys | is the essence of whatever skippable in BT to get to illidan? |
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| 19:27.27 | Gnarfoz | so, who's going to work on that WoW screenshot watermark decoder? :D |
| 19:28.06 | durcyn | fisker can decode them with his tinfoil hat |
| 19:28.24 | Fisker | mad cuz truth hurts durcyn ? |
| 19:28.41 | Gnarfoz | it's actually there |
| 19:28.43 | durcyn | doesn't hurt me |
| 19:29.20 | Gnarfoz | nobody said so |
| 19:29.20 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 19:29.43 | durcyn | i was talking to Fisker |
| 19:29.53 | durcyn | fuck knows why. |
| 19:29.55 | Fisker | umad? |
| 19:30.33 | Esamynn|work | durcyn: why are you feeding the Fisker? |
| 19:30.43 | Fisker | btw pompy |
| 19:30.48 | Fisker | look at the hot screenshots of me? |
| 19:31.10 | Fisker | yeah Esamynn|work because him starting out with "fisker can decode them with his tinfoil hat" wasn't trolling at all right? |
| 19:31.34 | Esamynn|work | trolls feeding trolls |
| 19:31.36 | Esamynn|work | sighs |
| 19:31.37 | nevcairiel | Adys: nothing in BT is optional, afaik |
| 19:32.06 | Gnarfoz | that is so, unless I forgot some boss :D |
| 19:32.09 | pompy | Fisker: dont know what you are referring to |
| 19:32.13 | Fisker | you wouldn't |
| 19:32.19 | Fisker | http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17yndvwsao9hsjpg/original.jpg |
| 19:32.40 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel, you're some kind of video codec guru, maybe you want to make that decoder? :D |
| 19:32.40 | Adys | meh |
| 19:33.08 | nevcairiel | thats more of a encryption kinda thing then video decoding :p |
| 19:33.15 | Krapsy | i did the last boss for the first time last night |
| 19:33.25 | Gnarfoz | true :\ |
| 19:33.25 | Krapsy | whats his name |
| 19:33.32 | pompy | Fisker: wht is that, where your steam name is appearing in |
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| 19:33.33 | nevcairiel | last boss of what |
| 19:33.34 | Gnarfoz | gotta figure out what the data is first, though |
| 19:33.44 | Gnarfoz | Illidan, if you're talking about BT? |
| 19:33.46 | Fisker | big picture mode pompy ? |
| 19:33.50 | Krapsy | the third HoT instance |
| 19:33.53 | Krapsy | oh |
| 19:33.58 | Krapsy | anyway |
| 19:34.01 | pompy | nice |
| 19:34.24 | Krapsy | we wiped once then downed him |
| 19:34.35 | Gnarfoz | Mannoroth, that'd be |
| 19:34.43 | Krapsy | all the while i had no idea what the fuck was going on |
| 19:39.03 | mckenziemc | archbishop bendictus |
| 19:39.18 | Gnarfoz | can anyone recall (or find out, I apparently suck) when Cataclysm beta started? |
| 19:40.04 | Humbedooh | july 2010? |
| 19:40.58 | Humbedooh | or june if you wanna nitpick |
| 19:41.08 | nevcairiel | http://wow.joystiq.com/2010/06/30/cataclysm-closed-beta-has-begun/ |
| 19:41.10 | nevcairiel | l2google |
| 19:43.23 | mckenziemc | the right words in the wrong query can make all the difference in the world |
| 19:43.46 | Humbedooh | queries mckenziemc repeatedly |
| 19:44.03 | mckenziemc | discards silently |
| 19:44.10 | Humbedooh | :( |
| 19:45.16 | Arrowmaster | I just got my physical copy of SpaceChem, in the special instructions i asked for a personalized autograph and got one! |
| 19:45.25 | Gnarfoz | just making sure my screenshot is not from... unsuitable sources |
| 19:45.40 | Gnarfoz | http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/watermark/ |
| 19:46.34 | Gnarfoz | they be tracking us :o |
| 19:46.55 | Krapsy | whats this about a watermark |
| 19:48.26 | Gnarfoz | see PM |
| 19:48.37 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 19:48.46 | Stanzilla | tell me Gnarfoz |
| 19:49.18 | Gnarfoz | apparently, at least (some?) jpeg screenshots are being watermarked since ~2010 by WoW itself, containing who knows what kind of info |
| 19:49.33 | nevcairiel | but someone must've decoded the watermark already, or are people just talking out of their ass when they say there is your account name in there? |
| 19:49.45 | Gnarfoz | of course they are just guessing |
| 19:50.26 | Gnarfoz | some internal account id or whatever + timestamp is just one possibility, albeit a pretty likely one |
| 19:51.43 | nevcairiel | if its encrypted properly, we'll never find out |
| 19:51.44 | Gnarfoz | if this was Valve I'd say ARG hints to hl3, but... :D |
| 19:52.20 | Gnarfoz | true; if it has a timestamp though, you could just keep on taking screenshots to get known plaintext |
| 19:52.41 | nevcairiel | even then, if its a good cypher, like say, AES, have fun |
| 19:52.48 | Gnarfoz | yeah... |
| 19:53.07 | Fisker | so tell me how to do that Gnarfoz |
| 19:53.09 | Gnarfoz | but then it should be easy enough to find out if wow does AES anywhere. :P |
| 19:53.19 | Fisker | think i might have some old screenshots on my backup drive |
| 19:53.29 | Dagmar | It's not that siple to indelibly encode data in a jpeg |
| 19:54.04 | Gnarfoz | the thread you linked me has usable instructions, it's just find a screenshot with an area that has uniform colour (like stuff beyond max view distance), and sharpen over and over |
| 19:54.21 | nevcairiel | instead, try a edge detector |
| 19:54.23 | Mr_Rabies | i've made quite a few hidden .rars inside jpgs for fun |
| 19:54.35 | Gnarfoz | indelibly? I'd thinkt that stuff will go away pretty quickly by resizing |
| 19:54.45 | Gnarfoz | steganography is... tricky business |
| 19:55.37 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: at least IrfanView's edge detection filter doesn't really give a different result. looks just like the sharpened stuff, in another colour. :D |
| 19:56.03 | nevcairiel | sharpen filter bleed too much, a good edge detector might give you a clearer image |
| 19:56.10 | nevcairiel | but then, all depends on the algorithm |
| 19:56.20 | Gnarfoz | see? that's why I thought of you. :D |
| 19:56.42 | Dagmar | So those two images are supposed to be watermarked? |
| 19:56.52 | nevcairiel | all wow screenshots apparently are |
| 19:57.02 | nevcairiel | or so some people claim |
| 19:57.32 | Gnarfoz | Dagmar: they're the same image, the second one is just... sharpened over and over |
| 19:58.31 | Krapsy | its asccii art of ghostcrawler laughing |
| 19:58.47 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
| 19:58.52 | Gnarfoz | I thought of asking GC on twitter ;D |
| 19:59.14 | Gnarfoz | he's in the twitter newcomer high activity phase |
| 19:59.49 | Dagmar | I dunno. I suspect someone's maybe getting a little tinfoil hat about quantization |
| 20:00.29 | Gnarfoz | that's really a bit too structured to be jpeg artifacts, don't you think? ;) |
| 20:00.32 | Dagmar | Just because you make a screenshot that you assume should be all one color doesn't neccessarily mean it's all going to be that color, especially towards extreme values |
| 20:00.46 | nevcairiel | eh, these people claim that it goes away when you do tga or quality=10 jpeg screenshots |
| 20:00.56 | nevcairiel | if they intended to really watermark you, why not do it always? |
| 20:01.07 | Subspace | Because then people might find out? |
| 20:01.09 | Dagmar | ...or it could be that the extra level of accuracy reduces the artifacting below the level their filter would notice |
| 20:01.56 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: there might be several reasons for that, but let's stay at what's there, regardless of if it's not there some other time? :D |
| 20:02.32 | Dagmar | With a screenshot that would ideally be pure white a more revealing approach would be to simply convert to a palettized format and then randomize the plette |
| 20:02.38 | Gnarfoz | I only found it in some of my cataclysm beta and alpha screenshots, and only because I forgot to change screenshot format/quality to tga/10 there |
| 20:02.49 | Gnarfoz | Dagmar: good idea |
| 20:02.57 | nevcairiel | i wish they would give us png on windows already |
| 20:03.04 | Mr_Rabies | it's probably just how wow's jpg compression algorithm works |
| 20:03.08 | Dagmar | Gnarfoz: I used to spend a lot of time hunting for steganographically encoded images |
| 20:03.12 | Gnarfoz | Mr_Rabies: as above: unlikely |
| 20:03.15 | Mr_Rabies | creating blocks and whatnot |
| 20:03.37 | nevcairiel | doesnt look like typical jpeg artifacts, but who knows |
| 20:03.40 | Mr_Rabies | why does increasing quality to 10 remove it then? |
| 20:03.48 | Mr_Rabies | try decreasing quality to 1 and seeing what happens |
| 20:04.05 | Gnarfoz | probably because they actually wanted maximum quality screenshots to be just that? :D |
| 20:04.09 | Fisker | i wonder why those artifacts would only show up in those 3 specific stripes even though content is the same :o |
| 20:04.47 | Dagmar | Because the compression works on square grids |
| 20:05.06 | nevcairiel | i stand by my opinion that if i want to watermark images to somehow track their origin or for whatever reason, i wouldnt turn it off for another screenshot format |
| 20:05.23 | Esamynn|work | ^ |
| 20:05.34 | Gnarfoz | yeah. those aren't squares though. look at a highly compressed jpeg image and tell me that's the same thing :\ |
| 20:05.38 | Fisker | do they also only work in 75% of the area or so Dagmar |
| 20:05.42 | Fisker | _ |
| 20:05.44 | Fisker | ? |
| 20:05.46 | Dagmar | Yeah if you're just diddling color values by a bit or two, there'd be no need to turn it off for anything--but they also wouldn't survice compression very well |
| 20:05.50 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: that's relevant... how? that might be true, but it doesn't make what's there go away :D |
| 20:06.25 | Dagmar | Gnarfoz: If the image itself isn't square, you basically have to slice up the image differently |
| 20:06.28 | Gnarfoz | also, you realize, just as the majority of people aren't using many, or any addons, the number who touch hidden screenshot quality cvars is even smaller? |
| 20:06.29 | Dagmar | There's a crapton of ways to go about that |
| 20:06.31 | nevcairiel | poking holes in peoples theorys is relevant |
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| 20:07.06 | Gnarfoz | well, of course, but I thought I was analyzing what's there, not theorizing why it is |
| 20:07.27 | nevcairiel | those two kinda go together |
| 20:07.38 | Gnarfoz | they don't have to, and I didn't :\ |
| 20:08.07 | Gnarfoz | of course, knowing one would make finding out the other a bit easier. |
| 20:09.20 | Gnarfoz | it'd be kind of lazy to blame the Intel jpeg library, btw |
| 20:09.21 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 20:10.42 | Dagmar | Gnarfoz: That page with the intermediate screenshots is kinda useless |
| 20:10.56 | Gnarfoz | of course it is |
| 20:10.58 | Dagmar | Gnarfoz: His all-white screenshot is, in fact, _all white_ |
| 20:11.11 | Gnarfoz | because he resized it to oblivion |
| 20:11.14 | Gnarfoz | (as he states himself) |
| 20:11.32 | Dagmar | There's definitely no data in there, or in resizing it it somehow all got obliterated |
| 20:11.34 | Gnarfoz | they're tinfoilers, they of course jump to the conclusion that it's super sikrit dataz |
| 20:11.47 | Dagmar | Irfanview might just be artifacting poorly |
| 20:11.57 | Gnarfoz | at what point? |
| 20:12.10 | Gnarfoz | (The GIMP shows this just as easily, btw) |
| 20:12.18 | Fisker | see |
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| 20:13.03 | Fisker | so |
| 20:13.09 | Fisker | i take a screenshot of something entirely white |
| 20:13.15 | Fisker | open the screenshot wow made |
| 20:13.16 | Fisker | bam |
| 20:13.17 | Fisker | bars |
| 20:13.21 | Fisker | i take the same screenshot |
| 20:13.27 | Fisker | paste it from the clipboard directly |
| 20:13.27 | Fisker | bam |
| 20:13.28 | Fisker | no bars |
| 20:13.58 | Dagmar | I'm going to have to come out on the side of tinfoil hats on this one |
| 20:15.37 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: the gimp's gaussian blah edge detect filter shows the stuff in the preview window, but applying the filter shows nothing? what am I doing wrong :D |
| 20:15.49 | Stanzilla | using gimp |
| 20:16.22 | Dagmar | There's a randomize palette function in Gimp |
| 20:16.24 | Vladinator | I think I broke wowhead :( |
| 20:16.47 | Stanzilla | no, the godaddy hacker did |
| 20:16.47 | Dagmar | ...but it just shifts the assigned colors around |
| 20:16.53 | Vladinator | :P |
| 20:17.10 | Dagmar | You'd want to palettize the image first (non-optimized!) and hten just go slap random values in there |
| 20:17.30 | Vladinator | if wowhead got hacked I wish to know the juicy details! |
| 20:17.36 | Fisker | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/nowow-org.jpg |
| 20:17.37 | Fisker | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/nowow-post.jpg |
| 20:17.52 | Fisker | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/WoWScrnShot_091012_221119.jpg |
| 20:17.53 | Fisker | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/WoWScrnShot_091012_221119-post.jpg |
| 20:17.58 | Dagmar | No need to mess about with edge detection when you can basically either run the contrast up as contrast, or do the equivalent of a random paint-by-numbers via palette |
| 20:18.52 | Dagmar | Fisker: which one of those supposedly has watermarking in it? |
| 20:19.08 | nevcairiel | the last one obviously =p |
| 20:19.09 | Fisker | the third is the original made by WoW |
| 20:19.18 | Dagmar | So what are the first two supposed to be doing? |
| 20:19.33 | Fisker | those are images pasted directly from the clipboard |
| 20:19.39 | Fisker | then saved as 90% quality jpg's |
| 20:19.44 | Fisker | then post-processed |
| 20:20.39 | Gnarfoz | ah, you have a higher res, the thread said the pattern repeats a bit more often |
| 20:20.45 | Gnarfoz | ...at higher resolutions |
| 20:21.07 | Gnarfoz | what's the screenshot of, btw? |
| 20:21.16 | Gnarfoz | and what are your screenshotformat/quality settings? |
| 20:21.17 | Fisker | trees in crystalsong forest |
| 20:21.20 | Fisker | zoomed in |
| 20:21.27 | Fisker | and default screenshot settings |
| 20:21.50 | Fisker | and alt+z to hide the ui |
| 20:21.54 | Vladinator | Fisker: what am I looking at? |
| 20:21.55 | Gnarfoz | /dump GetCVar('ScreenshotQuality') plx |
| 20:22.07 | Vladinator | Gnarfoz: 3 |
| 20:22.11 | Fisker | bigfoor Vladinator |
| 20:22.13 | Gnarfoz | I have no idea what the default is |
| 20:22.17 | Dagmar | Well, there *is* some crap in that third one |
| 20:22.34 | Fisker | 9 Gnarfoz |
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| 20:22.43 | Dagmar | *One* application of "Adjust Brightness and Contrast" with brightness to -127 and contrast to 127 shows static bars |
| 20:22.55 | Dagmar | ...but it still looks like jpeg artifacting to me |
| 20:23.15 | Gnarfoz | why are you so obsessed with jpeg artifacts |
| 20:23.18 | Gnarfoz | they look nothing like this |
| 20:23.41 | Dagmar | Actually, they very much can look exactly like this at hte level of scrutiny we're alloying |
| 20:23.44 | Vladinator | wowhead is broken when I wanted to make my summer fire festibal bonfire map addon, need dataz! oh well I can do it tomorrow ^^ |
| 20:23.45 | Dagmar | er applying |
| 20:23.56 | Stanzilla | Vladinator: wowdb.com |
| 20:24.17 | Vladinator | lacks a lot of coordinates sadly |
| 20:24.22 | mckenziemc | Vladinator: you looking for coords? |
| 20:24.36 | mckenziemc | i have lua savedvars with all the coords somewhere |
| 20:24.41 | nevcairiel | jpeg artifacts do not form such stripes, they would look more like individual small blocks |
| 20:24.43 | mckenziemc | i can look for it later, but i think the file's pretty messy |
| 20:25.13 | Jamash | jpeg motherf**er, do you speak it |
| 20:25.14 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: try flood filling the picture instead of using filters; that should easily make it distinguishable from jpeg artifacts. (despite the fact that they'd never appear in such weird, orderly on/off/on patterns) |
| 20:25.19 | Fisker | www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/WoWScrnShot_091012_222228.jpg |
| 20:25.25 | Fisker | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/WoWScrnShot_091012_222228-post.jpg |
| 20:25.28 | Fisker | wiith ui |
| 20:26.11 | Dagmar | Hell this could be his video driver cutting corners for all we know |
| 20:26.17 | Stanzilla | fix your errors man |
| 20:26.23 | Jamash | ^dagmar |
| 20:26.29 | Fisker | not playing wow Stanzilla |
| 20:27.00 | Fisker | so my video driver is only cutting corners during WoW? |
| 20:27.01 | Fisker | cool |
| 20:27.26 | Gnarfoz | of course ;) |
| 20:27.27 | mckenziemc | story Fisker |
| 20:27.41 | Gnarfoz | I'll add Fraps into the mix, doubt it's going to appear there, either |
| 20:29.21 | Gnarfoz | hahaha https://twitter.com/Namecheap/status/245256680487661569 |
| 20:29.23 | Gnarfoz | cashing in |
| 20:29.30 | Vladinator | 404 |
| 20:29.52 | Fisker | what did they do now? |
| 20:30.20 | Dagmar | It does strike me as spectacularly odd that setting the accuracy of hte image to the highest level would disable watermarking routines |
| 20:30.28 | Gnarfoz | how can that be 404 for you |
| 20:30.37 | Vladinator | worked now |
| 20:30.38 | Vladinator | :) |
| 20:30.44 | Vladinator | had to wait, not sure why :P |
| 20:30.46 | Dagmar | I'm still saying tinfoil hat |
| 20:30.47 | Gnarfoz | probably using godaddy dns! |
| 20:31.04 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: any particular tree? |
| 20:31.26 | Fisker | i took the one from borean tundra/wintergrasp |
| 20:31.40 | Fisker | plausible deniability Dagmar |
| 20:32.08 | Dagmar | Tinfoil hat |
| 20:32.58 | Gnarfoz | perhaps it's just a precaution against "why are there artifacts on my uncompressed screenshots?!" questions ;) |
| 20:33.16 | Fisker | If shits hits the fan they can reasonable well argue they're not trying to watermark screenshots because it doesn't happen at the highest quality of jpeg or in a lossless format |
| 20:33.19 | Gnarfoz | for all compressed formats, they could just play the jpeg card |
| 20:33.24 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 20:33.27 | Gnarfoz | not that it makes sense |
| 20:33.36 | Gnarfoz | but they'd just sweep counter-arguments under the rug |
| 20:34.42 | Ackis | HOLY FUCK http://robertsspaceindustries.com "My name is Chris Roberts and if you would indulge me I would like to create a world with you." |
| 20:35.22 | Fisker | access code? |
| 20:35.28 | Ackis | 42 |
| 20:35.48 | Fisker | so wait |
| 20:35.55 | Fisker | spiritual freelancer/privateer game? |
| 20:36.01 | Ackis | yeah |
| 20:36.10 | mckenziemc | ~smackis |
| 20:36.10 | purl | ACTION smacks Ackis. |
| 20:36.50 | Gnarfoz | tga screenshots, fraps, clipboard and wow: unique colours: 1 |
| 20:37.00 | Dagmar | Hmmm |
| 20:37.04 | Gnarfoz | jpeg screenshots, fraps, clipboard: unique colours: 1 |
| 20:37.07 | Gnarfoz | wow: 5 |
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| 20:37.19 | Gnarfoz | (jpeg, quality 9. at quality 10, it's 1 colour) |
| 20:37.53 | Gnarfoz | at qualit 1, it's 3 colours? :D |
| 20:38.13 | Dagmar | Yah, with the other two being in a particular proprotion to the third |
| 20:38.24 | Dagmar | ...because they're *approximating* |
| 20:38.27 | Jamash | it could just be a bug in blizzard's jpeg compressor |
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| 20:38.38 | Gnarfoz | Jamash: that'd be Intel's JPEG compressor. |
| 20:38.56 | Jamash | it could just be a bug in blizzard's implementation of intel's jpeg compressor |
| 20:39.03 | Dagmar | If you do it with one that's 50% grey, you should see a different histogram, possibly with no artifacts |
| 20:39.22 | Gnarfoz | what's there to implement if you're using someone else's library to do the compression? |
| 20:39.28 | Dagmar | ...but I suspect you'd see the artifacts above and below hte actual value at any rate |
| 20:39.40 | Gnarfoz | Dagmar: good luck finding something that's verifiably 50% gray :| |
| 20:39.45 | Shirik | can someone please explain to me how taking down GoDaddy's servers causes millions of websites to go down? |
| 20:39.53 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
| 20:39.57 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: DNS with low TTL |
| 20:40.01 | End_ | Shirik: dns server |
| 20:40.04 | Fisker | i don't think it gives a shit about the UI |
| 20:40.05 | Dagmar | Shirik: DNS goes from root servers, to registrars, to customer DNS |
| 20:40.10 | Gnarfoz | -> no more DNS for you |
| 20:40.12 | Fisker | couldn't be just make a grey texture on top of the ui or shit? |
| 20:40.13 | Jamash | who says it's intel's jpeg compressor? |
| 20:40.22 | Shirik | Oh I wasn't aware that the registrar actually had a server in the loop |
| 20:40.22 | Fisker | who says hitler was a bad man? |
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| 20:40.27 | Dagmar | Registrar's servers go down, non-cached lookups stop |
| 20:40.44 | End_ | it's not that godaddy is the registrar specifically |
| 20:40.47 | Jamash | Jesus, Fisker |
| 20:40.55 | Dagmar | Shirik: Do a dig with the +trace option on any affected domain |
| 20:40.58 | Fisker | who says jesus exists? |
| 20:41.00 | Gnarfoz | Jamash: history, when the windows wow client got the ability to even write jpegs at all (it didn't in the beginning) |
| 20:41.20 | Jamash | I don't see a dll with intel's name on it |
| 20:41.24 | End_ | it's that people are using their dns servers to host those domain names |
| 20:41.43 | Gnarfoz | I don't have a MPQ browser that works at the moment, not sure if they're still using it and it's inside an mpq now or they statically linked it, but it used to sit right in WoW's root dir, to be dynamically linked |
| 20:42.06 | Fisker | hey Gnarfoz |
| 20:42.07 | Jamash | to the strings machine! |
| 20:42.07 | Gnarfoz | they indeed might have switched to something else; regardless, it's unlikely this is a fuckup? :p |
| 20:42.12 | Gnarfoz | Jamash: true.dat |
| 20:42.18 | Fisker | maybe when they implemented the watermark they changed jpeg compression libraries |
| 20:42.29 | Dagmar | well THAT's interesting |
| 20:42.44 | Dagmar | I jsut had dig *segfault* doing a+trace on godaddy.com |
| 20:42.49 | Dagmar | fires up tcpdump |
| 20:42.54 | Gnarfoz | your memory sucks <> |
| 20:42.55 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:43.04 | Fisker | nah |
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| 20:43.17 | End_ | dig +trace just times out for me |
| 20:43.21 | Fisker | maybe the program is just supposed to segfault? |
| 20:43.30 | Fisker | any evidence that it should not segfault Dagmar ? |
| 20:44.30 | End_ | oh hey I actually got a result for godaddy.com this time |
| 20:45.05 | Shirik | I wonder how much this will cost them |
| 20:45.08 | Shirik | surely they have SLAs |
| 20:45.37 | Gnarfoz | to some customers, maybe |
| 20:45.52 | Arrowmaster | majority of customers, no |
| 20:45.56 | Gnarfoz | certainly not to their gigantic joe shmoe end-user morons |
| 20:46.02 | Gnarfoz | (sorry Arrowmaster :P) |
| 20:46.05 | TC-Work | how do i do a wget from github? |
| 20:46.18 | Fisker | http://store.steampowered.com/app/212680/ <-want |
| 20:46.23 | Gnarfoz | wget http://github.com/ ? D: |
| 20:46.26 | Arrowmaster | im proud to say i have never been a godaddy customer |
| 20:46.37 | TC-Work | ~lart Gnarfoz |
| 20:46.37 | purl | holds Gnarfoz to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails |
| 20:46.44 | Jamash | found the best error message ever in Wow.exe: "Error, attempted to look up model for player with sex %d (UNITSEX_NONE), all players have sex! =D" |
| 20:46.50 | End_ | oh I see |
| 20:46.58 | Shirik | TC-Work: Let's be honest, I was thinking the same thing |
| 20:47.05 | End_ | their dns servers are responding to ipv6 but not ipv4 |
| 20:47.11 | Jamash | well, you heard the executable |
| 20:47.23 | Arrowmaster | their ipv6 servers are probably different hardware |
| 20:47.31 | Arrowmaster | maybe even in a different location |
| 20:47.34 | End_ | maybe |
| 20:47.39 | Dagmar | cns3.secureserver.net <-- broken |
| 20:47.44 | TC-Work | Shirik: that Gnarfoz needs to diaf? |
| 20:47.48 | Arrowmaster | i wouldnt be supprised if they outsourced their ipv6 servers |
| 20:48.00 | Shirik | you asked how to wget something, hye tells you how to wget that something |
| 20:48.01 | Gnarfoz | why the hate :( |
| 20:48.21 | TC-Work | I didnt ask how to wget github |
| 20:48.22 | Dagmar | Uh oh |
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| 20:48.27 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: i think i saw that game when it was on kickstarter |
| 20:48.29 | TC-Work | i asked how to wget from github |
| 20:48.33 | Dagmar | Something is VERY wrong at godaddy |
| 20:48.35 | Fisker | yeah |
| 20:48.41 | Fisker | i was going to kickstarter it Arrowmaster |
| 20:48.42 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: DDoS |
| 20:48.43 | Fisker | but then i forgot |
| 20:48.46 | LexSfX | if greens are quality=2, what quality value are heirlooms? |
| 20:49.06 | pompy | Dagmar: anonymous claimed they took em down. |
| 20:49.07 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Something's melting |
| 20:49.13 | LexSfX | quality==2, i mean |
| 20:49.15 | Arrowmaster | good |
| 20:49.16 | Dagmar | Arrowmster: Do a whois on godaddy.com |
| 20:49.20 | Shirik | tbh I agree with Arrowmaster |
| 20:49.30 | Dagmar | Same thing is going on with the whois info for the secureserver domain |
| 20:49.42 | End_ | both their ipv4 and ipv6 addresses come from the same AS, but I don't know how much that means |
| 20:50.04 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: ive got limited tools still, cant check |
| 20:50.20 | pompy | http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-57509744-501465/godaddy-goes-down-anonymous-claims-responsibility/ |
| 20:50.32 | Dagmar | This is up there with the substititution of a comma for a decimal place |
| 20:50.39 | Dagmar | Someone left out a dot in an important place |
| 20:51.05 | Amarande | Gah. Are we ever going to be able to stop Anonymous, or is it just going to become something we're going to have to accept as reality that evil always wins in the end? |
| 20:51.07 | pompy | the link wont have the comma |
| 20:51.14 | pompy | the title does tho! |
| 20:52.10 | Amarande | Or else, that all the things us FOSS advocates have been fighting for, are going to have to be accepted as fatally weakening the infrastructure of the digital world, and there is no choice but to move to mandatory Trusted Computing in order to ensure we can actually protect the net from things like this? |
| 20:52.25 | Jamash | who says anonymous is evil? |
| 20:52.25 | Dagmar | http://pastebin.com/jDGc1gAR <-- please examine line 244 |
| 20:52.31 | Gnarfoz | TC-Work: your question is still not very specific. what do you want to do? "wget from github" would still just be "wget <some url at github>" >_< |
| 20:52.52 | Gnarfoz | they do offer https, which is probably the only thing you'd want to feed wget, so what's the trouble? |
| 20:52.53 | Dagmar | ...but othe than that it looks like someone left a dot out somewhere important and this has completely fucked their records generation |
| 20:53.32 | xyphoid | hands up if you've left a dot out of zone files and screwed everything up spectactularly |
| 20:53.42 | Dagmar | Xyphoid: *hand* |
| 20:53.45 | Jamash | I've never written a zone file, so no |
| 20:53.48 | xyphoid | i think that's like the bind rite of passage |
| 20:53.49 | Esamynn|work | ^ |
| 20:53.56 | Dagmar | What GoDaddy has done may be much, much more massive a fuckup |
| 20:54.06 | Amarande | Jamash: let's not mince words |
| 20:54.06 | Gnarfoz | you'd hope they're not doing stuff by hand at the biggest domain registrar |
| 20:54.09 | End_ | I don't think I've screwed up a zone file in that way, amazingly |
| 20:54.12 | Amarande | Anonymous is a distributed terrorist group, and that is all there is to it |
| 20:54.20 | End_ | but I've definitely scrwed them up before |
| 20:54.21 | Dagmar | Like, since when should you ever get a zillion results for a whois like that? |
| 20:54.30 | Jamash | Amarande is an internet trolling group, and that's all there is to it. |
| 20:54.33 | End_ | luckily it was for internal stuff anyway |
| 20:54.41 | Gnarfoz | Jamash: nail on the head, ahahaha |
| 20:54.45 | Amarande | Unfortunately, by their nature, I'm not sure how you could stop them unless you required some sort of TC style attestation for every computer on the Internet |
| 20:55.00 | Amarande | otherwise, you can't for sure figure out where everything is coming from so you can drag the kids screaming out of their rooms and off to prison where they belong |
| 20:55.04 | Jamash | Amarande: that would make it easier for anonymous to operate |
| 20:55.09 | Dagmar | ....and whois.godaddy.com just asploded |
| 20:55.19 | Gnarfoz | AS-ploded? |
| 20:55.21 | Jamash | they'd get inside the TC infrastructure and then things would be FUBAR |
| 20:55.31 | Gnarfoz | (why do people like that particular misspelling so much, btw?) |
| 20:55.44 | Amarande | Gnarfoz: it's probably some lame meme |
| 20:55.49 | Jamash | Gnarfoz: homestar runner |
| 20:55.57 | Gnarfoz | hu wha? |
| 20:56.04 | Dagmar | jesus it's like you people have never seen a flash cartoon before |
| 20:56.05 | Jamash | Gnarfoz: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/your-head-asplode |
| 20:56.06 | Gnarfoz | I'm guessing that's a movie? |
| 20:56.18 | Jamash | ^Dagmar |
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| 20:56.38 | Gnarfoz | hm, youtube video gone :( |
| 20:56.50 | Jamash | http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail94.html |
| 20:57.18 | Gnarfoz | I've seen that in so many places, I don't think all of those times were deliberate references to an internet meme :| |
| 20:57.34 | Gnarfoz | (particularily, because a ton of those people would not even know what a meme is) |
| 20:57.48 | Amarande | Jamash: you don't believe they're terrorists? |
| 20:57.53 | Jamash | probably people who got it from someone who knows the meme even if they don't |
| 20:57.58 | mckenziemc | not knowing what a meme is would not preclude using a meme |
| 20:58.09 | Jamash | Amarande: have you stopped beating your wife? |
| 20:58.16 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 20:58.19 | zenzelezz | I used memes before they were cool |
| 20:58.24 | TC-Work | Gnarfoz: Don't worry about it, i did it a different way. |
| 20:58.37 | Jamash | I was a hipster before it was cool before being a hipster before it was cool was cool. |
| 20:58.38 | TC-Work | Fisker: Is that game free? |
| 20:58.43 | Shirik | Amarande: Btw, Anonymous needs to watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI |
| 20:58.45 | mckenziemc | Jamash: he clearly doesn't, he wouldn't be typing in IRC so much |
| 20:58.57 | mckenziemc | have one |
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| 20:59.05 | zenzelezz | I accidentally all the memes |
| 20:59.22 | Jamash | mckenziemc: she might still be unconscious from the last time |
| 20:59.28 | mckenziemc | :O |
| 20:59.59 | Fisker | nope TC-Work |
| 21:00.19 | TC-Work | Fisker: I fail to see a buy button |
| 21:00.36 | Fisker | it will be there when it gets a price |
| 21:00.50 | Fisker | they may be waiting until release until you can buy it |
| 21:01.42 | Dagmar | Someone has figured out how to inject arbitrary data into whois records |
| 21:01.51 | Dagmar | I'm seeing a LOT of domains come back with insane lists |
| 21:02.09 | pompy | TC-Work, Fisker: http://www.ftlgame.com/?p=378 |
| 21:02.14 | Fisker | sure it's not supposed to inject arbitrary data into whois records? |
| 21:02.40 | Jamash | from the kiddies who brought you dns cache poisoning, ladies and gentlemen, give a big hand of applause to authoritative server poisoning! |
| 21:02.54 | TC-Work | wow, buying from their site is by far the best option |
| 21:03.03 | pompy | yeah steam and drmfree copy |
| 21:03.04 | pompy | haha |
| 21:03.10 | Fisker | yeah |
| 21:03.13 | Fisker | gonna bookmark it TC-Work |
| 21:03.14 | TC-Work | and an extra os |
| 21:03.17 | Amarande | though, really, is it even safe to buy from the Internet in general right now, with Anonymous worming their way through DNS? |
| 21:03.21 | Fisker | until steam linux |
| 21:03.28 | Jamash | roguelikelike :D |
| 21:03.38 | Gnarfoz | heh, diablo3 has ijl15.dll in it's root dir btw ;) |
| 21:03.46 | mckenziemc | for-the-lose game? |
| 21:03.48 | Jamash | Amarande: L2TLS |
| 21:04.01 | End_ | a DDOS is one thing. Actual infiltration is another. |
| 21:04.02 | Fisker | unless they add sales tax |
| 21:04.29 | Fisker | have you checked if diablo 3 does the same thing Gnarfoz or is it too hard to find a good surface? |
| 21:04.34 | xyphoid | Amarande: it's not even safe to be on IRC right now! |
| 21:04.37 | Gnarfoz | no idea, I don't even want to |
| 21:04.42 | Jamash | take two identical screenshots and do an image diff |
| 21:04.54 | Gnarfoz | there's no super secret alphas to protect like in wow ;) |
| 21:04.55 | xyphoid | anonymous are hacking from INSIDE THE CHANNEL |
| 21:04.58 | Gnarfoz | (not anymore, at least) |
| 21:04.59 | pompy | Fisker: eh, would be $10.69 if they charge sales tax |
| 21:05.01 | Jamash | blah blah, gimp, subtractive mode, layers, etc. |
| 21:05.03 | zenzelezz | xyphoid: nonsense, IRC is like two ships meeting in the ocean |
| 21:05.04 | pompy | for me |
| 21:05.06 | Fisker | not for me pompy |
| 21:05.09 | Jamash | too lazy to do myself |
| 21:05.12 | Gnarfoz | Jamash: could you elaborate? I don't do much image processing |
| 21:05.19 | Jamash | neither do I! |
| 21:05.29 | Jamash | other than "auto contrast" in xnview |
| 21:05.33 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
| 21:05.39 | Jamash | and occasionall "auto levels" |
| 21:05.43 | Jamash | s/ll/lly/ |
| 21:05.54 | pompy | Fisker: 25%? :O |
| 21:05.55 | Jamash | I'm an ideas man. |
| 21:06.04 | Fisker | yes pompy |
| 21:06.20 | pompy | quite disgusting, unless im missing something |
| 21:06.40 | Fisker | it's europe |
| 21:06.43 | Fisker | we're used to that stuff |
| 21:07.03 | Fisker | also why the majority of $ = € talk is bullshit |
| 21:07.21 | pompy | in US Valve charges sales tax to ppl in their HQ state, aka, Washington ... whats it in EU? |
| 21:07.33 | TC-Work | Fisker: the videos are rather nifty |
| 21:07.37 | Fisker | depends on your country pompy |
| 21:07.42 | Fisker | videos of what TC-Work ? |
| 21:07.46 | TC-Work | FTL |
| 21:07.46 | Fisker | it's 25% VAT in Denmark |
| 21:07.50 | Fisker | 17,5% in the UK |
| 21:08.06 | Fisker | 23% in poland |
| 21:08.12 | Fisker | 19% in germany i think? |
| 21:08.30 | pompy | Stanzilla: ^ ;) |
| 21:08.46 | pompy | 7% hurr. |
| 21:08.58 | pompy | but yeah |
| 21:09.02 | Esamynn|work | and people complain about sales taxes in NA |
| 21:09.27 | Arrowmaster | they complain that its not included in the price |
| 21:09.43 | Fisker | yeah |
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| 21:09.51 | Fisker | it is required by law that prices are stated + vat |
| 21:10.01 | Fisker | unless your primary business is B2B |
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| 21:11.19 | Jamash | yeah I don't get why sales tax is left off prices in the US |
| 21:11.23 | pompy | welp, only about 10 or so months left where i wont be charged sales tax from amazon.. oh wells. |
| 21:11.27 | Jamash | I also don't get why people think sales taxes are a good idea |
| 21:11.44 | Esamynn|work | O_o |
| 21:12.09 | Esamynn|work | what sort of tax would you perfer? |
| 21:12.11 | Jamash | actually I do (they're regressive, falling more on the poor than the rich), but for rhetorical purposes I don't |
| 21:12.40 | Esamynn|work | uhhh, depending on the exclusions, I would have said just the opposite |
| 21:13.27 | Jamash | I'd be fine with sales taxes if they applied to stocks/bonds/derivatives |
| 21:13.57 | Esamynn|work | not feasible |
| 21:13.59 | Jamash | But they don't, because rich people buy those and poor people don't. |
| 21:14.19 | Jamash | Esamynn|work: not feasible because the people who own those things write the tax code |
| 21:14.33 | Esamynn|work | not true |
| 21:14.58 | Gnarfoz | I still have hopes for the stock transaction tax in the EU ^^ |
| 21:15.03 | Gnarfoz | (or was that a german thing? not sure) |
| 21:15.05 | Jamash | man I hope it goes through |
| 21:15.37 | Jamash | Esamynn|work: why not then? |
| 21:15.39 | Esamynn|work | Gnarfoz: sounds like a wonderful idea, if everyone implements it and they can somehow enforce it |
| 21:15.57 | pompy | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=408287682554546&set=a.133197436730240.23875.110938085622842&type=1 |
| 21:16.02 | Esamynn|work | but enfocement of such a thing is a huge can of worms |
| 21:16.06 | Gnarfoz | so? |
| 21:16.10 | Gnarfoz | they're the highest authority |
| 21:16.13 | Gnarfoz | :shrug: |
| 21:16.30 | Gnarfoz | but I doubt it ever gets passed |
| 21:16.33 | Esamynn|work | what about the rest of the world? |
| 21:16.40 | Jamash | those look an awful lot like speaker cones |
| 21:16.51 | Gnarfoz | to be a little american for once: I don't care, I don't live there. :p |
| 21:16.57 | Fisker | http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/10/3307326/bettina-wulff-autocomplete-lawsuit <-this is awesome |
| 21:17.00 | Fisker | btw |
| 21:17.07 | Esamynn|work | that's rather short sighted |
| 21:17.07 | Jamash | Esamynn|work: don't regulate anywhere because you can't regulate everywhere? |
| 21:17.08 | Fisker | $10 says that Google loses because it's germany |
| 21:17.31 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: she chose the court wisely... OLG Hamburg are retarded |
| 21:17.57 | Gnarfoz | also, she's a moron. everybode all but forgot about that bullshit, now she drags herself back into the spotlight by suing over it :P |
| 21:18.04 | Gnarfoz | *everybody |
| 21:18.10 | Fisker | probably intentional |
| 21:18.28 | Amarande | Gnarfoz: you mean like how every single EULA pretty much insists on having jurisdiction be in Los Angeles? |
| 21:18.28 | Fisker | like dumb pseudo celebrities here |
| 21:18.32 | Jamash | oh hey big picture mode |
| 21:18.39 | Gnarfoz | entirely possible |
| 21:18.41 | Gnarfoz | you never know |
| 21:18.44 | Esamynn|work | Jamash: I didn't say that, the problem with trading is that there is almost no barrier to the business simply moving to a place without the tax, so as long as there are plenty of "safe" places that don't implement it you're really just screwing yourself |
| 21:20.01 | Esamynn|work | also, what about trades that don't occur as part of a stock exchange? |
| 21:20.04 | Jamash | Esamynn|work: we're talking about a financial transactions tax, if you're trading on a european exchange how are you gonna evade it? |
| 21:20.08 | Esamynn|work | who gets the right to tax those? |
| 21:20.17 | Dagmar | volunteers |
| 21:20.37 | Esamynn|work | Jamash: so they simply won't trade on a European exchange |
| 21:20.43 | Jamash | "simply" |
| 21:20.52 | Esamynn|work | yes, simply |
| 21:20.56 | Jamash | you're simple |
| 21:20.59 | Amarande | mind you, Europe is kind of a ... not very stable market right about now, either |
| 21:21.13 | Amarande | has it even been settled yet whether Greece is going to exit the euro and exactly what that's going to entail? |
| 21:22.12 | Amarande | I've also heard that the Germans want to rewrite the EU constitution and make sure it is designed to favour them this time, because they're getting tired of being the ones with the most money and not having enough control when they're told to dole it out somewhere in need by the EU :| |
| 21:22.20 | Esamynn|work | I believe there are only two possible real solutions to the Euro crisis, the entire zone accepts a single, overall legislative authority, or it breaks up |
| 21:22.42 | Amarande | Which is really, really NOT a good thing for the world, especially the open source community, because it probably means among other things that software patents would be forced upon the EU due to German central authority, no? |
| 21:23.02 | Amarande | thus leaving even fewer places untouched by the infection that is the honouring of software patents :| |
| 21:23.28 | Jamash | Germany can have an EU with just them in it |
| 21:23.44 | Gnarfoz | the financial transaction tax is unrelated to the euro crisis, btw |
| 21:23.47 | Jamash | and blackjack, and hookers |
| 21:23.47 | Amarande | There's also the "how many times is it now that the Germans have tried to take over all of Europe?" thought, heh |
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| 21:27.22 | F16Gaming | i just verified that setting loot threshold to legendary via API works |
| 21:27.30 | F16Gaming | so why is it no in the default UI? |
| 21:27.35 | F16Gaming | not* |
| 21:27.49 | Esamynn|work | just because you can set it, doesn't mean it will function |
| 21:28.08 | Esamynn|work | also, can you say "edge case" |
| 21:28.10 | Esamynn|work | ? |
| 21:28.15 | Jamash | "edge case" |
| 21:28.19 | Jamash | yes |
| 21:28.27 | Esamynn|work | ~gag Jamash |
| 21:28.27 | purl | ACTION takes away the voice of Jamash and, as an additional precaution, sews Jamash's mouth shut permanently... |
| 21:28.53 | Jamash | mmf m mmfmm fmmmm mfmfmfm mmf mf mf mfmmm |
| 21:29.15 | jeffy162 | Sorry to break in like this, but, is anybody else having trouble getting on the WoWI site?? |
| 21:29.17 | jeffy162 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:29.17 | Vladinator | is wowi offline? |
| 21:29.21 | Vladinator | ye, 404 atm :P |
| 21:29.23 | Esamynn|work | DNS problems |
| 21:29.25 | Vladinator | wowhead too |
| 21:29.26 | Vladinator | ^^ |
| 21:29.28 | Jamash | is wowi registered on godaddy? |
| 21:29.50 | Jamash | wowi loading for me |
| 21:30.03 | Esamynn|work | nature of the problem |
| 21:30.03 | jeffy162 | OK. Thanks. Thought I was going nuts, or something. |
| 21:30.06 | Esamynn|work | works for some, not for others |
| 21:31.07 | Esamynn|work | wowhead's IP is 50.97.93.32 (copied from another channel), dunno about wowi, I'm behind a proxy and don't actually have the IP |
| 21:31.20 | Jamash | yeah dig +trace gets up to wowinterface.com but times out on www.wowinterface.com |
| 21:32.13 | Jamash | try it without the www |
| 21:32.21 | Gnarfoz | is there some way to view the current image's palette in gimp? |
| 21:32.51 | Jamash | 24-bit images don't have a palette |
| 21:33.31 | Gnarfoz | you don't... say :( |
| 21:33.51 | Gnarfoz | it's and indexed picture with a 3-color palette, and I found it, thanks. |
| 21:34.01 | Jamash | you can do colors -> info -> colorcube analysis |
| 21:34.04 | Jamash | ah |
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| 21:36.35 | Jamash | ok I gotta go run my D&D in space campaign |
| 21:36.36 | Jamash | laterz |
| 21:36.38 | Gnarfoz | there's a tab you can add, "colormap" |
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| 21:38.54 | Dagmar | Yeah, wowinterface will be fucked until GoDaddy gets their shit straight |
| 21:39.18 | Dagmar | GoDaddy runs the domaincontrol.com nameservers the lookups rely on |
| 21:39.40 | TC-Work | anyone know a good simple python web framework for making single pages? |
| 21:44.38 | Subspace | http://isdownforeveryoneorjustmedownforeveryoneorjustme.com/ |
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| 21:46.46 | Kraps | hahs |
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| 21:47.55 | mckenziemc | the visual for the arcane bomb thingy in well of eternity's azshara encounter shows unusually large for everyone since 5.0.4, not just me? |
| 21:48.24 | kd3 | it's freaking gigantic |
| 21:48.31 | kd3 | like half the floor huge |
| 21:48.48 | kd3 | I still try to blink across the map to get away from it... |
| 21:49.27 | mckenziemc | i wonder how that bug came into being |
| 21:49.57 | kd3 | it's wow. the spaghetti code lends itself to crazy bugs from touching something all the way across the codebase |
| 21:50.29 | Amarande | heh, I'm guessing the WoW server code could be annotated and made into a book titled "How Not to Code a Game"? |
| 21:50.50 | kd3 | probably like all mmorpgs ever coded and/or conceived |
| 21:51.13 | xyphoid | did you see that starcraft code article |
| 21:52.00 | Gnarfoz | is there some easy way to copy a palette from one image to another in Gimp? :< |
| 21:53.04 | Dagmar | You can save and load them |
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| 21:55.03 | jeffy162 | WHOO-HOOO! |
| 21:55.04 | Gnarfoz | I thought so, but I'm not finding it |
| 21:55.05 | jeffy162 | WoWI is back up!! Well, at least I can get on it now. |
| 21:55.24 | Gnarfoz | it wasn't really down, just DNS trouble =] |
| 21:55.43 | Esamynn|work | pfft, details |
| 21:55.51 | Gnarfoz | apropos details |
| 21:56.06 | Gnarfoz | http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/watermark/quality_1/recolors/WoWScrnShot_091012_225942_recolor_400pct.png |
| 21:56.18 | Gnarfoz | that's not jpeg artifacts. ;P |
| 21:57.02 | Dagmar | It looks like crap copied from other buffers |
| 21:57.29 | Gnarfoz | ... |
| 21:57.36 | Gnarfoz | yes... that's why it doesn't appear in the clipboard |
| 21:57.38 | mckenziemc | stamps a barcode onto Gnarfoz's forehead |
| 21:57.44 | Gnarfoz | (or on the screen, for that matter) |
| 21:57.59 | Dagmar | I still don't think it's some intentional thing |
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| 22:07.57 | Industrial | So I named my gerbils Foo and Bar. |
| 22:08.25 | nilyaK | get to more named bat and baz |
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| 22:24.17 | F16Gaming | <Esamynn|work> just because you can set it, doesn't mean it will function |
| 22:24.20 | F16Gaming | i verified it |
| 22:24.21 | F16Gaming | it does work |
| 22:24.30 | F16Gaming | binding dropped in MC, and it was covered by masterloot |
| 22:24.34 | F16Gaming | anything epic and below was free for all |
| 22:25.31 | Stanzilla | Vladinator: your shaman is really called Postgresql? |
| 22:25.34 | Stanzilla | maaaaan |
| 22:25.57 | Gnarfoz | should've picked a better dbms! |
| 22:25.58 | Vladinator | lol |
| 22:26.09 | Vladinator | mysql is my hunter |
| 22:26.28 | Primer | oh please |
| 22:26.31 | Primer | postgresql > * |
| 22:26.55 | Vladinator | lol |
| 22:27.24 | Stanzilla | still better than addonlord |
| 22:29.53 | Primer | Is that the name of one of his other toons? |
| 22:30.44 | Amarande | hrm. anyone else experiencing a bugsack capture when trying to do a Real ID message with Prat active? |
| 22:30.45 | Amarande | http://pastebin.com/y1hT6iPf |
| 22:31.03 | Amarande | The conversation itself goes through without apparent error but every message triggers this |
| 22:31.27 | Primer | yes, I've been seeing that |
| 22:31.47 | nebula169 | BNTokenCombineGivenAndSurname doesn't exist anymore |
| 22:32.20 | nebula169 | just change that to BNTokenFindName |
| 22:32.42 | Primer | sylvanaar: ^^^^^^^^^ |
| 22:33.22 | sylvanaar | thanks prencher |
| 22:33.26 | sylvanaar | er Primer |
| 22:33.41 | nebula169 | thats been fixed for awhile, though, i thought |
| 22:34.00 | Gnarfoz | I thought so, too, just got that error, though. |
| 22:36.10 | sylvanaar | BNTokenFindName is correct then? |
| 22:37.19 | Amarande | Stanzilla: heh, did I ever mention the guy I met in Stormwind once whose name was "Focustargett" |
| 22:37.35 | Amarande | and there was this healer in trade who was going on at him to never, ever hit 85 |
| 22:37.39 | Amarande | then noticed there were two t's |
| 22:38.18 | Primer | My main's name is Ihavenoidea |
| 22:39.57 | Primer | I've had quite a lot of fun with that name |
| 22:41.27 | mckenziemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:41.53 | Gnarfoz | well. D: |
| 22:43.07 | Kraps | ~seen Parnic |
| 22:43.09 | purl | parnic is currently on #wowuidev (7h 47m 16s) #wowace (7h 47m 16s) #curseforge (7h 47m 16s), last said: 'also it's way late for me. 'night.'. |
| 22:43.31 | mckenziemc | ~seen Kraps |
| 22:43.32 | purl | kraps is currently on #wowuidev. Has said a total of 22 messages. Is idling for 25s, last said: '~seen Parnic'. |
| 22:43.45 | End_ | ~seen purl |
| 22:43.46 | purl | purl is currently on #lotrouidev (11d 15h 34m 39s) #casualti (11d 15h 34m 39s) #linuxfund (11d 15h 34m 39s) #waruidev (11d 15h 34m 39s) #how (11d 15h 34m 39s) #sc2mapster (11d 15h 34m 39s) #riftuidev (11d 15h 34m 39s) #edev (11d 15h 34m 39s) #fossfund (11d 15h 34m 39s) #hosernet (11d 15h 34m 39s) #norganna (11d 15h 34m 39s) #ud (11d 15h 34m 39s) ##ducleague ... |
| 22:44.46 | Kraps | yo dudes do you think http://www.wowhead.com/item=67482 is better than http://www.wowhead.com/item=43424 ? |
| 22:46.34 | mckenziemc | maybe |
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| 22:49.32 | nebula169 | i use bull rush/htl/sb |
| 22:50.28 | nebula169 | kind of hard to compare unless you include the situation and the alternatives |
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| 23:01.23 | kd3 | ick. ick ick ick |
| 23:01.32 | kd3 | Not news: Redskins long snapper breaks arm. News: stays in the game. Fark: two more quarters, and snaps the ball nine more times. Ultrafark: developed pain tolerance by repeatedly tasering himself as a kid [Unlikely] |
| 23:02.14 | kd3 | http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/sundberg-calls-broken-arm-the-worst-thing-ive-ever-put-myself-through/2012/09/10/c2b89946-fb52-11e1-b2af-1f7d12fe907a_blog.html |
| 23:05.08 | Amarande | heh, that's a laughable one about the tasering himself one |
| 23:05.21 | Amarande | have these people even read some of the stories where people would taze themselves to find out what it was like? :P |
| 23:05.37 | kd3 | getting tasered hurts. and it's also terrifying when you tell your body to do something and it just goes 'huh?' |
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| 23:08.15 | Kraps | i seem to have DEed my 397 bracers :/ |
| 23:08.36 | Adys | Facebook: Where the smart people who know php end up. |
| 23:08.41 | Adys | ah man. |
| 23:08.41 | Kraps | unless i never had them but i'm pretty sure i did |
| 23:09.37 | Unkle | Adys - so you're trying to get a job at Facebook? |
| 23:09.46 | Adys | are you out of your fucking mind |
| 23:10.06 | Unkle | I have been so accused. But I was just yanking your chain. |
| 23:10.23 | Adys | stop wanking my chain thank you very much |
| 23:10.41 | pompy | Kraps: they may be in the self restore feature |
| 23:10.42 | Unkle | Well, you just took it to a new, lower level. |
| 23:11.45 | Kraps | pompy, wheres that |
| 23:11.57 | pompy | log into your bnet acct |
| 23:12.00 | Unkle | battle.net accounts page. |
| 23:12.32 | pompy | allowed to restore x amount of items (i think) once per month. |
| 23:12.54 | pompy | fixed month or every 30 days ;) |
| 23:14.24 | mckenziemc | ADD and slow computers don't mix :*( |
| 23:14.56 | Kraps | i dont see it |
| 23:16.18 | mckenziemc | somebody tell me what i was going to look for on wikipedia |
| 23:16.33 | Kraps | http://gyazo.com/eac40fa68f2593f0529feccabd8ca959 |
| 23:17.30 | foxlit | Hm, and now I'm out of content, 3/2 levels away from 35. |
| 23:18.44 | Sintacks | will code for food |
| 23:18.45 | Sintacks | pst |
| 23:19.14 | foxlit | Sintacks: conjured food okay? |
| 23:19.25 | durcyn | shitty code gets you shitty takeaway |
| 23:19.30 | Sintacks | lol |
| 23:19.35 | Sintacks | i'd be fine with shitty takeaway |
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| 23:27.48 | kd3 | hm |
| 23:27.56 | kd3 | I wonder what's going to happen to teleport: theramore? |
| 23:28.58 | Amarande | not sure, there doesn't seem to be any difference in the number of quests needed for Dustwallow as Alliance |
| 23:29.14 | Amarande | I'm hazarding a guess there will probably be some sort of "Theramore Refugee Camp" near where Theramore was |
| 23:29.27 | Amarande | in order to provide a destination for the teleport and to give some semblance of the quests that used to come from Theramore |
| 23:29.39 | Unkle | kd3 there was a blue post where it was mention that they would move the portal point |
| 23:29.58 | Amarande | so where will Alliance get a port to now? :) |
| 23:30.37 | durcyn | the bottom of the ocean. |
| 23:32.35 | Amarande | Vashj'ir? :) |
| 23:32.53 | Amarande | That'd be an interesting place to get a port to. I'm sure Horde would complain about never getting to get a Ghostcrawler pet anymore, heh |
| 23:33.59 | Amarande | blah |
| 23:34.04 | Amarande | wtf is it that taints the glyph frame, anyway |
| 23:34.14 | Amarande | this happened before 5.0 too and I could never figure out what's at fault. |
| 23:34.31 | kd3 | breathing wrong |
| 23:34.31 | Amarande | it blames Enchantrix, but we know the blocked action notices rarely if ever actually blame the right original source |
| 23:34.44 | Amarande | kd3: given how easily the glyph frame becomes tainted ... I wouldn't be surprised :P |
| 23:38.46 | Esamynn|work | I think it's the _ global that both the glyph UI and Enchantrix's DebugLib leak |
| 23:38.46 | Kraps | are ipod and iphone screens the same size or different |
| 23:39.07 | foxlit | apple has excellent technical specs pages on their website. |
| 23:39.18 | Esamynn|work | Amarande: ^ |
| 23:39.25 | Esamynn|work | my, last message, rather |
| 23:40.56 | Esamynn|work | Amarande: http://jira.norganna.org/browse/DLIB-4 (also, I think the leak in the glyph UI is fixed on beta) |
| 23:43.05 | Amarande | ah ... yeah, that's quite likely it |
| 23:43.49 | Esamynn|work | yup, the problem is fixed on beta |
| 23:44.02 | Esamynn|work | GetSpecialization(_, _, PlayerTalentFrame.talentGroup) changed to GetSpecialization(false, false, PlayerTalentFrame.talentGroup) |
| 23:47.25 | Sintacks | bleh. i need to fix Cirk's Looutcounter again :| |
| 23:47.43 | Sintacks | though i don't even know for sure it's broken, I assume it is. |
| 23:51.41 | Dagmar | I find it amazing that GoDaddy doesn't have anything about what's _still_ going on on their website |
| 23:52.47 | Amarande | yay. I am eminently enjoying the mage changes in 5.0 now that I've had a chance to actually play |
| 23:52.48 | Adys | I found my set of screenshots from the March 2010 PTR |
| 23:52.52 | Adys | http://imgur.com/a/IJiye |
| 23:53.00 | Adys | from the graphics glitch |
| 23:53.01 | Amarande | no more "frost mages get shorter range than everyone else for no good reason" |
| 23:53.12 | Amarande | also: frost bomb recalls the fun of the sticky grenades from Halo |
| 23:53.23 | Adys | Amarande: i didnt even notice they changed the range but now you mention it |
| 23:53.29 | Amarande | it even *looks* like them. :) |
| 23:53.29 | Adys | also frost bomb is fucking awesome |
| 23:53.40 | Semlar | the game looks way cooler without any light sources |
| 23:59.29 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/7NRm8.jpg this one is my favorite |
