| 00:00.18 | Vladinator | yes it's from the event |
| 00:00.28 | Vladinator | it's just instead of writing again "ADDON_LOADED" :P |
| 00:00.48 | Vladinator | as said earlier the bottom part of the code is just to allow me to include the file from a xml, that's it ;) |
| 00:01.58 | foxlit | I guess I could be pacified with t = C_PetJournal.GetAllPetIDs([t]) |
| 00:02.39 | Torhal | Vladinator: So, yeah - no idea why that would be breaking anything except via taint, and why neither of us can reproduce it is beyond me. |
| 00:02.48 | Vladinator | -_- |
| 00:02.57 | Vladinator | could it be corrupt cache? |
| 00:03.04 | Torhal | I'd never heard of FontStrings causing breaking taint, either. |
| 00:03.07 | Vladinator | even when the guy said he did a clean reinstall :P |
| 00:03.16 | Torhal | Hell, apparently cache can cause earthquakes so.... |
| 00:03.19 | foxlit | GetPetInfoByPetID doesn't seem to be affected by the filters, so just getting a list of all known pets would make life easier |
| 00:03.30 | Vladinator | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:03.34 | End_ | yup |
| 00:03.38 | Torhal | Two is overly-verbose. |
| 00:03.40 | Vladinator | don't wanna be spammed with the regular taint, just looking for logging the serious stuff |
| 00:03.47 | Vladinator | then I use 1 |
| 00:03.50 | Torhal | Yar. |
| 00:04.03 | Vladinator | using 3 is like shooting myself in the head |
| 00:04.10 | Vladinator | takes me years to read trough it |
| 00:04.12 | Torhal | Hah |
| 00:06.13 | Vladinator | no taint related to the code :/ |
| 00:06.22 | Torhal | :/ |
| 00:06.23 | Vladinator | added events, deleted, showed the ui, e.g. |
| 00:07.46 | Vladinator | btw wow xml does not like nesting <!-- --> |
| 00:08.16 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 00:08.17 | Vladinator | like curse code |
| 00:08.26 | Vladinator | <!--@debug@ <!-- <Include file="Modules\Aggro\load.xml"/> --> @end-debug@--> |
| 00:08.28 | Vladinator | this fails :P |
| 00:08.32 | Vladinator | noticed it in the log file |
| 00:08.55 | Vladinator | Torhal, what would you do if you were me? :P |
| 00:09.04 | End_ | Torhal: how often does the documenter run? |
| 00:09.18 | Torhal | Vladinator: "Sorry, I can't reproduce this no matter what I do." |
| 00:09.30 | Torhal | If they can give exact steps on how to reproduce, then try that |
| 00:09.37 | Torhal | Otherwise, just ignore it |
| 00:09.43 | Torhal | Can't fix something you can't reproduce. |
| 00:09.51 | Neffi | You sure that should be <!--@debug@ <Include ... /> @end-debug@--> ? |
| 00:09.55 | pompy | Vladinator: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/repositories/repository-keyword-substitutions/#w-xml-2 |
| 00:09.58 | Neffi | I don't think you can nest XML comments |
| 00:10.28 | Torhal | End_: Should happen when the packager runs. Though I'm pretty sure the documentor is borked. |
| 00:10.32 | End_ | fart |
| 00:10.34 | End_ | ok |
| 00:10.38 | Vladinator | I know pompy |
| 00:10.56 | Vladinator | and Neffi :P |
| 00:11.01 | End_ | thanks anyway...I guess I will have to run luadoc by hand |
| 00:11.06 | Torhal | :/ |
| 00:11.10 | Vladinator | but pitbull modules.xml contains comment tags inside the comment tags ;) |
| 00:11.12 | Neffi | Oh, didnt read above |
| 00:11.29 | Neffi | That's because ckknight wrote Pitbull =P |
| 00:12.15 | End_ | he wrote a lot of things, and then he disappeared and everything broke |
| 00:12.16 | Torhal | lololol |
| 00:13.09 | Neffi | Do people still use his stuff? |
| 00:13.24 | End_ | yeah lots of people |
| 00:13.37 | End_ | some of his stuff has been taken over by other peopl;e |
| 00:13.40 | pompy | Neffi: the packager was made by him, so many people day! |
| 00:13.43 | pompy | do* |
| 00:13.50 | End_ | other things (*cough cough* packager) may burn in hell |
| 00:13.52 | Torhal | pompy: Look at WLM damn you :P |
| 00:13.57 | pompy | i saw |
| 00:14.25 | Neffi | The packager as in the part of WoWA/CF that packages into .zip files? |
| 00:14.40 | Neffi | I've never used those places for my code |
| 00:14.51 | Torhal | Neffi: Yah, the same. |
| 00:15.45 | pompy | http://www.wowace.com/profiles/ckknight/addons/ ;) |
| 00:20.39 | Vladinator | who maintains InFlight? |
| 00:21.05 | Vladinator | totalpackage :P |
| 00:21.08 | Vladinator | ~seen totalpackage |
| 00:21.13 | purl | i haven't seen 'totalpackage', Vladinator |
| 00:22.19 | pompy | he doesnt hang in irc |
| 00:24.40 | Neffi | Is there another way to create a secure frame without inheriting from 'Secure*'? Can a non-inheriting frame be assigned secure attributes? |
| 00:25.39 | foxlit | "secure frame" is not a thing |
| 00:25.47 | foxlit | you can set whatever attributes you want on any frame |
| 00:25.48 | alestane | Attributes are always secure, but the secure action structure is designed to only use attributes from frames that are protected, so that their attributes can only be changed out of combat or through secure mechanisms. |
| 00:26.10 | foxlit | but if you want to make some other existing frame behave like a SecureActionButtonTemplate-inheriting frame, no, you can't do that. |
| 00:26.30 | Neffi | Yes that was the idea. And thanks. |
| 00:29.00 | End_ | fuck it I'll use grep |
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| 00:45.26 | foxlit | does something fire when you stop hovering over a unit? |
| 00:46.38 | foxlit | [UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT only seems to fire whenever you hover over something, not when you hover over nothing] |
| 00:49.55 | Neffi | You can do a hack with RegisterUnitWatch probably |
| 00:50.24 | Neffi | local f=CreateFrame('Frame','blah',nil,'Secure...'); f:SetAttribute('mouseover'); RegisterUnitWatch(f) |
| 00:50.28 | Neffi | then use OnShow/OnHide |
| 00:50.52 | Neffi | s/f:SetAttribute('mouseover')/f:SetAttribute('unit','mouseover')/ |
| 00:51.22 | Neffi | Not sure if RegisterUnitWatch checks mouseover, and it might just be using OnUpdate, which you can also use manually. |
| 00:54.30 | foxlit | kd3: does Greenfield sell all of the seeds you can plant, or are there more somewhere? |
| 00:54.45 | kd3 | afaik all of them |
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| 01:08.01 | End_ | RegisterUnitWatch just does everything onupdate I thought |
| 01:08.15 | End_ | the check I mean |
| 01:09.39 | sintAcks | fuck you blizzard |
| 01:09.44 | sintAcks | fucked up my dispel macro |
| 01:10.43 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/i/tiller.jpg << well, it almost works. |
| 01:11.47 | Ressy | oh thats cool |
| 01:11.57 | kd3 | yay |
| 01:12.10 | kd3 | <3 off-hand requests resulting in code |
| 01:12.34 | Ressy | Thats opie right? |
| 01:12.42 | Torhal | Yar |
| 01:12.59 | Ressy | If that functionality is added, I may just have to reinstall it |
| 01:13.39 | foxlit | you uninstalled it? blasphemy! :) |
| 01:14.06 | Ressy | sorry.. I uninstalled it when I stopped playing my druid |
| 01:14.45 | kd3 | <3 double-dipping dmf monthlies as well |
| 01:15.10 | Torhal | Reported! |
| 01:15.31 | mckenziemc | deported |
| 01:16.01 | kd3 | oh, wow. that's pathetic. I *just* got More Skills to Pay the Bills |
| 01:16.03 | kd3 | sighs |
| 01:16.16 | Ressy | lol |
| 01:19.22 | foxlit | http://pastebin.com/ZF7V5Fw6 << I'm sure that at some point, this was terribly clever |
| 01:19.48 | kd3 | er |
| 01:19.52 | kd3 | stops and rereads again |
| 01:20.21 | foxlit | you might have better luck substituting "seemed" for "was" |
| 01:20.34 | foxlit | or the other way around. |
| 01:22.44 | Shirik | in #wikipedia-en-help, got an editor that is acting on behalf of a company trying to make "their" page |
| 01:23.01 | Shirik | I tell him to change username |
| 01:23.04 | Shirik | response: (18:21:06) (Surmrit) this is really confusingly made (18:21:25) (Surmrit) is there a paid specialist who handles all the wikipedia articles? and if we could give the work to them |
| 01:26.48 | Kaylin | lol |
| 01:27.14 | Kaylin | prefers uncyclopedia |
| 01:32.06 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: for a donation im sure they can find an editor willing to help |
| 01:35.31 | mckenziemc | donates Kaylin |
| 01:37.29 | Kaylin | rubs legs together. |
| 01:41.36 | Vladinator | did you know there are 6133 unique flightpaths you can fly in WoW? :P |
| 01:42.19 | Vladinator | ally has 3071 and horde has 3062 |
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| 01:48.36 | Vladinator | shortest FP is 15 sec ^^ |
| 01:50.30 | mckenziemc | just what i've always wondered :p |
| 01:51.01 | Kaylin | but now, can you convince wowhead to add it to their completion tracker |
| 01:51.11 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 01:51.19 | sintAcks | i wish there was a short version of /cancelaura |
| 01:51.28 | sintAcks | cuz i'm at 244/255 ... :( |
| 01:51.31 | Kaylin | couldn't you just make one? |
| 01:52.02 | sintAcks | i r bad at lua |
| 01:52.10 | Vladinator | I wish spellID worked ;( |
| 01:52.15 | Kaylin | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.17 | sintAcks | someone said something about using IDs for /cast |
| 01:52.22 | sintAcks | does that work with mounts |
| 01:52.27 | sintAcks | cuz that'd save a shit load of space |
| 01:52.32 | Vladinator | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:53.06 | sintAcks | yeah. that'll help. |
| 01:53.10 | sintAcks | now i just have to find hte ids |
| 01:53.26 | Vladinator | when I swapped over to another locale, all my macros turned into "?" :P |
| 01:53.38 | sintAcks | lol |
| 01:54.16 | Vladinator | I vote for short versions like /use i:1 and /use s:1 |
| 01:54.19 | Vladinator | for items and spells :P |
| 01:55.20 | sintAcks | dafuq is the i and s |
| 01:55.25 | sintAcks | oh. item and spell |
| 01:55.26 | Vladinator | I = item s = spell |
| 01:55.27 | Vladinator | :P |
| 01:55.43 | sintAcks | srsly. they need to make shorter aliases for macro stuff |
| 01:56.03 | sintAcks | like cancelaura and cast and stop macro and some otehr shit thati cant' thinkg o |
| 01:56.04 | Vladinator | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:56.05 | sintAcks | of* |
| 01:56.06 | sintAcks | fuck typing |
| 01:56.21 | sintAcks | /ca spell or /ca s:spellID |
| 01:56.21 | Vladinator | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:56.26 | Vladinator | already too long example tbh :P |
| 01:57.02 | Neffi | Does Macaroon still work? |
| 01:57.15 | alestane | Never abbreviate anything to three letters when you can abbreviate it to two. |
| 01:57.16 | Neffi | (Custom action bars that are all macros.) |
| 01:57.16 | mckenziemc | no, i ate it |
| 01:57.28 | Vladinator | I am mostly thinking about the original macro system, since you can go from machine to machine and have yours with you :) |
| 01:57.36 | Neffi | Easy way to circumvent the limit if you use an action bar addon. Swap it out for Macaroon. Or use BindPad. |
| 01:57.59 | Vladinator | when I go to a friends house and say "lemme show you something" I can barely play lol :P |
| 01:58.05 | Neffi | Abbreviate all your /cast's to /use's |
| 01:58.17 | Neffi | Or post your macro. There's probably some abbreviations you missed. |
| 01:58.23 | Vladinator | post macro, naoo! |
| 01:59.43 | Vladinator | sintAcks: post! |
| 01:59.58 | mckenziemc | "(6:57:06 PM) sintAcks: fuck typing" and you want shorter commands? (ie. easier to type the wrong one) |
| 02:00.34 | mckenziemc | through a typo |
| 02:01.26 | Vladinator | sintAcks: probably gave up |
| 02:02.12 | Vladinator | someone wanna post a macro, long one, so I can try to make it shorter? :P |
| 02:02.24 | Vladinator | found one of my old tools, wonder how it keeps up lol |
| 02:02.40 | mckenziemc | #showtooltip Fishing |
| 02:02.40 | mckenziemc | /equipset [nocombat,noequipped:Fishing Pole] Fishing |
| 02:02.40 | mckenziemc | /cast [equipped:Fishing Pole] Fishing |
| 02:03.11 | Vladinator | it produced |
| 02:03.12 | Vladinator | #showtooltip Fishing |
| 02:03.13 | Vladinator | /equipset [nocombat,noworn:Fishing Pole]Fishing |
| 02:03.13 | Vladinator | /use [worn:Fishing Pole]Fishing |
| 02:03.57 | Neffi | fuckin' magic |
| 02:04.53 | mckenziemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:04.54 | mckenziemc | :p |
| 02:05.06 | Vladinator | btw, I recommend you AH all your old stuff on the AH now |
| 02:05.14 | Vladinator | before MoP, they will get totally worthless otherwise :D |
| 02:05.40 | mckenziemc | o.O i have another box of icecream sandwiches! |
| 02:05.44 | Neffi | Or save them until people stop farming pre-MoP shit, and start leveling professions again |
| 02:05.58 | Neffi | My thorium out-sells my Obsidium |
| 02:06.04 | Vladinator | I keep saving for expansions |
| 02:06.08 | Vladinator | it's time to clean now! |
| 02:06.08 | Vladinator | :P |
| 02:06.24 | Vladinator | 10k gold earned from my old stuff, hehe |
| 02:06.39 | Vladinator | bank is still pretty full tough |
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| 02:09.56 | mckenziemc | fills Torhal's bank with Tough Jerky |
| 02:10.21 | Torhal | s/Torhal's bank/mckenziemc's belly/ |
| 02:10.52 | Vladinator | my bank char pet is named accountant |
| 02:10.55 | Vladinator | I know, smart... |
| 02:12.50 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/i/ypf-tiller.jpg << and now it actually works. |
| 02:12.59 | Torhal | foxlit: Hawt |
| 02:13.44 | Vladinator | what's that? |
| 02:14.16 | foxlit | a radial menu that pops up when you right click on tilled soil, letting you choose which seed to plant. |
| 02:16.14 | Vladinator | hmm |
| 02:16.30 | kd3 | no more having to dig through my bags. <3 |
| 02:16.50 | Vladinator | did you make it yourself? |
| 02:17.02 | kd3 | it's part of opie |
| 02:17.08 | kd3 | or, it is now, rather |
| 02:17.31 | foxlit | or it will be :) |
| 02:17.37 | foxlit | but basically yes. |
| 02:25.43 | Stanzilla | I'm 12 and what is this |
| 02:26.23 | mckenziemc | goto sleep Stanzilla |
| 02:28.01 | Stanzilla | but I just woke up |
| 02:28.18 | mckenziemc | too bad |
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| 02:35.21 | Neffi | Does anyone keep an updated list of WoW's Lua API for syntax highlighting? |
| 02:35.37 | Neffi | That is, so I don't *have* to parse Wowpedia myself |
| 02:36.02 | Neffi | Oh wait, I can do it in-game. Nevermind. Much eaiser. |
| 02:37.36 | Torhal | SerachBoxTemplate_OnEditFocusGained <--- typos FTW, especially when Blizzard says "Fuck it" and uses it in other functions. |
| 02:41.54 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 02:42.15 | mckenziemc | also, die Trohal |
| 02:47.10 | Neffi | lol |
| 02:47.33 | Neffi | for k in pairs(_G) do if type(k)=='string' then str[#str+1]=k; end; editbox:SetText( table.concat(str)) |
| 02:47.36 | Neffi | totally hung wow |
| 02:47.43 | Neffi | how is that enough to hang it? |
| 02:48.41 | mckenziemc | is str declared local? |
| 02:48.53 | Neffi | yes |
| 02:49.13 | Neffi | normal pairs iteration on _G is instantenous. How could 40000 calls to type() not be? |
| 02:49.18 | mckenziemc | oh nvm wouldn't have mattered anyway |
| 02:49.28 | Neffi | unless it's the table.concat |
| 02:49.47 | Neffi | which doesn't even make sense |
| 02:52.46 | mckenziemc | my guess is str[#str+1] |
| 02:52.52 | mckenziemc | taking a long time |
| 02:54.42 | Neffi | it doesn't iterate str to find #str |
| 02:54.49 | Neffi | it stores the number internally last I checked |
| 02:54.51 | Torhal | Indeed. |
| 03:00.13 | mckenziemc | what about the actual insertion |
| 03:00.31 | Torhal | SHould still be rather fast. |
| 03:02.22 | Neffi | debugprofilestart() |
| 03:02.22 | Neffi | ; for k in pairs(_G) do |
| 03:02.22 | Neffi | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:02.22 | Neffi | print(debugprofilestop()); --> 10 milliseconds |
| 03:03.00 | Neffi | Can anyone tell me what's wrong with this? |
| 03:03.02 | Neffi | http://pastebin.com/QmKzpr5Q |
| 03:03.14 | Neffi | It's not the timer, 'resuming iteration' does spam every .5 sec |
| 03:04.20 | Neffi | It gets to "pausing on iteration 1000" and never resumes |
| 03:05.55 | Torhal | Neffi: You sure you don't want coroutine.yield()? |
| 03:06.01 | Neffi | fuck |
| 03:06.02 | Neffi | thanks |
| 03:07.13 | Ackis | ~seen mckenziemc |
| 03:07.18 | purl | mckenziemc is currently on #wowuidev (7h 41m 42s) #wowace (7h 41m 42s). Has said a total of 28 messages. Is idling for 7m 5s, last said: 'what about the actual insertion'. |
| 03:07.25 | Ackis | hehehehehe |
| 03:07.33 | Torhal | ... |
| 03:07.44 | mckenziemc | penetrates Ackis's ear |
| 03:07.55 | kd3 | never assume any of us have any maturity at all |
| 03:07.55 | mckenziemc | (with a screwdriver) |
| 03:08.20 | Ackis | :D |
| 03:08.37 | Neffi | I see |
| 03:08.56 | Neffi | Inserting table.concat(str) into DevPad's edit box is what's hanging the client |
| 03:11.35 | Ackis | is guild xp bugged or are the rates normal? |
| 03:11.51 | Neffi | lol |
| 03:11.58 | Neffi | dumped it into a saved variable |
| 03:12.07 | Neffi | File is 1.1 MB |
| 03:12.11 | Neffi | 1.1 million characters |
| 03:12.27 | Neffi | I didn't even add a delimiter between entires (on accident) |
| 03:16.55 | Torhal | Hawt |
| 03:17.23 | mckenziemc | immerses Torhal in liquid nitrogen. |
| 03:21.14 | Ackis | braids Torhal's hair. |
| 03:21.35 | pompy | aww |
| 03:22.07 | Torhal | sends mckenziemc and Ackis to a cage match. |
| 03:25.13 | mckenziemc | smacks Ackis with Torhal. |
| 03:25.34 | Torhal | removes mckenziemc's verbose emote ability. |
| 03:25.43 | mckenziemc | kills Torhal. |
| 03:36.15 | kd3 | ahaha, wtf. (at dragoncon) http://i.imgur.com/SdWH6.jpg |
| 03:42.33 | Mr_Rabies | i already miss it and can't wait for next year :< |
| 03:42.39 | Mr_Rabies | i'm tired as all heck and sore everywhere |
| 03:42.46 | Mr_Rabies | but there's no replacing it |
| 03:42.55 | kd3 | did you catch the con flu this year? |
| 03:43.00 | Mr_Rabies | nah |
| 03:43.04 | Mr_Rabies | just sore |
| 03:43.07 | Mr_Rabies | i'm way outta shape |
| 03:43.34 | Mr_Rabies | and walking around all day with a backpack loaded with schwag is a lot at once for me |
| 03:43.58 | Mr_Rabies | i had a charlie horse friday night in my hotel room, i think the neighbors probably think i was being murdered |
| 03:46.34 | Mr_Rabies | i only regret two things at dragoncon, 1) not staying as late as i wanted and 2) buying a single bottle of beer for $6 |
| 03:47.15 | kd3 | ouch |
| 03:47.28 | Shirik | i would only regret 1 thing at dragoncon |
| 03:47.31 | Shirik | that I wasn't at PAX |
| 03:48.15 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, it sucks that they both happened at the same time, but still |
| 03:48.43 | Mr_Rabies | PAX is quite different than D*Con, I think D*Con's more up my alley |
| 03:48.59 | Mr_Rabies | i would have liked to try out hawken though |
| 03:49.00 | Mr_Rabies | :( |
| 03:49.11 | Mr_Rabies | i'm possibly the largest mech nerd in the channel |
| 03:49.31 | Shirik | mechwarrior online |
| 03:49.34 | Shirik | you should play |
| 03:49.58 | Arrowmaster | i dont get the pic kd3 linked |
| 03:50.13 | Shirik | the shooter |
| 03:50.18 | kd3 | he's referencing sideshow bob, the DKR shooter |
| 03:50.46 | Mr_Rabies | i'd like to check out MWO as well, Shirik |
| 03:51.00 | Mr_Rabies | but i think hawken's probably closer to what i want |
| 03:51.16 | Mr_Rabies | mechwarrior's always been fun, but way too slow paced for me |
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| 03:51.36 | Mr_Rabies | what i really want though |
| 03:51.44 | Shirik | let's just say mwo is not slow paced |
| 03:51.55 | Arrowmaster | both have gauss rifles right? |
| 03:51.55 | Shirik | it has something for everyone's playstyle |
| 03:51.58 | Mr_Rabies | is Metal Wolf Chaos on XBLA/Steam/PSN |
| 03:52.14 | Shirik | me, I do like it to be a little slower so I play as a sniper and sit back |
| 03:52.20 | Shirik | but there are so many different options |
| 03:52.35 | Mr_Rabies | i'd really love for a votoms-scale mecha game |
| 03:54.03 | Mr_Rabies | http://i.imgur.com/gvIW0.jpg |
| 03:54.07 | Mr_Rabies | this scale, approximately |
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| 04:00.47 | Mr_Rabies | with the ability to fight on foot |
| 04:04.41 | starlon | Anyone know how long it takes MC to soft reset? |
| 04:05.26 | durcyn | 30 minutes is the rule |
| 04:05.32 | starlon | k |
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| 04:18.34 | pompy | http://www.g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/blog/post/727464/that-game-must-have-taken-a-weird-turn/ |
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| 05:03.51 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 05:07.13 | Stanzilla | Fisker |
| 05:07.24 | Fisker | can't be done Stanzilla |
| 05:07.33 | Stanzilla | why not |
| 05:08.45 | Fisker | because it says right there |
| 05:09.42 | Stanzilla | wanna touch my tralala? |
| 05:10.10 | Fisker | no |
| 05:10.15 | Stanzilla | did you buy gw2 btw? |
| 05:10.17 | Fisker | but i'd like to touch your penis |
| 05:10.22 | Fisker | nope.mp4 |
| 05:10.26 | Fisker | i only buy good games |
| 05:10.34 | Stanzilla | oh ok |
| 05:11.47 | Fisker | Stanzilla |
| 05:12.16 | Stanzilla | Fisker |
| 05:13.24 | Fisker | hey |
| 05:14.57 | Stanzilla | ho |
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| 05:15.48 | Mr_Rabies | fisker |
| 05:15.58 | Fisker | Mr_Rabies |
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| 06:52.29 | neutronimity | Does anyone know how to get the most actual foreign globalstrings.lua without downloading the relevant language packs? |
| 06:54.02 | Neffi | They only exist in the respective client AFAIK, so you probably have to download the pack |
| 06:54.28 | neutronimity | Damn. And nobody uploads them? A shame. :( |
| 06:55.07 | neutronimity | Well, thanks! |
| 06:55.17 | neutronimity | Hmm thinking if I could download the file directly |
| 06:55.51 | Neffi | You could parse the file for all the globals it contains, then write a Lua script to check _G for those globals. Politely ask users to run said script and give the output to you. |
| 06:56.33 | Neffi | By the way, the official FrameXML packs are out of date |
| 06:56.43 | neutronimity | :| thanks! |
| 06:56.52 | Neffi | And GlobalStings.lua has been updated for 5.0, so you won't get an up-to-date version if you download Blizz's UI pack. |
| 06:57.02 | Neffi | FrameXML needs to be extracted from the console now |
| 06:57.11 | neutronimity | :O |
| 06:57.53 | neutronimity | I'll deal with it later - now I got other things to do; but thank you for the heads up |
| 06:57.56 | pompy | now? |
| 06:59.44 | starlon | right now, pompy |
| 06:59.57 | pompy | tomorrow |
| 07:00.02 | starlon | ok |
| 07:00.17 | pompy | lol |
| 07:00.58 | pompy | http://www.newjerseyweather.com/new-jersey-lightning.html blehhhh |
| 07:01.07 | Neffi | college sucks |
| 07:01.52 | Neffi | "Oh hey, first day! Welcome! btw you need this textbook 'cause you have to read 40 pages and write 6 pages. and it's due in 2 days." |
| 07:01.57 | Neffi | what asshole does that? |
| 07:04.29 | pompy | .... |
| 07:04.39 | pompy | 6 pages in 2 days? |
| 07:04.42 | pompy | f that professor |
| 07:05.52 | Neffi | I can write that in 15 min. I was pissed that I was expected to have the textbook 2 days after the first class. |
| 07:06.12 | Neffi | And it's a night class. So realistically I had the timespan of like 1 day to get the textbook and do the work. |
| 07:06.25 | Neffi | I bet I'll be one of the few that did it too |
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| 07:27.24 | starlon | chuckles at users who think beta means release. |
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| 07:28.17 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 07:28.48 | starlon | I'm making a legendary hammer. :D |
| 07:29.07 | mitch0 | Mc Hammer |
| 07:29.15 | starlon | yep yep |
| 07:29.52 | starlon | just need 3 more sulfuron ingots and 2 more bloods |
| 07:30.46 | starlon | Picked up 7 bloods just today. \:D/ |
| 07:35.14 | bluspacecow | HAMMER TIME *baggy pants shuffle to the left and right* |
| 07:35.16 | Kalroth | thats so 2005! |
| 07:45.42 | Elkano | there are so many other legendary items ingame ;( |
| 07:47.17 | starlon | this will be my first |
| 07:47.50 | Elkano | how about: www.wowdb.com/items/3895 |
| 07:47.53 | starlon | Took me being ablet to solo a raid instance, but I finally got it. :) |
| 07:49.07 | starlon | heh |
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| 08:09.14 | Jamash | alan moore has lost it |
| 08:09.46 | Neffi | Richard Stallman has lost it |
| 08:09.57 | Neffi | *queue picture of him dancing like a child and pretending he can drum* |
| 08:09.59 | bluspacecow | Fisker. has lost it |
| 08:10.04 | Jamash | I'm probably slowpoke.jpg on this but jesus christ, league of extraordinary gentlemen 2009 is garbage |
| 08:10.47 | Neffi | Sturgeon's Law applies especially to movies Jamash. It's a practice in futility to constantly list bad ones. |
| 08:11.29 | Neffi | i think futility was the wrong word, but point made |
| 08:12.52 | Jamash | not the movie |
| 08:12.54 | Jamash | the book |
| 08:13.13 | Jamash | the movie came out in 2003 and was also garbage, but for different reasons |
| 08:14.15 | Neffi | needs moar sean connery |
| 08:17.14 | Neffi | You guys think famous people edit their own Wikipedia pages? |
| 08:19.55 | mitch0 | I do edit mine! |
| 08:20.13 | Humbedooh | you have a wikipedia page? ;o |
| 08:20.32 | Humbedooh | is in awe over mitch0 |
| 08:20.35 | mitch0 | ;) |
| 08:21.06 | Neffi | I obviously didn't mean user pages |
| 08:21.30 | mitch0 | me neither |
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| 08:21.35 | mitch0 | pff |
| 08:22.04 | Neffi | >.> |
| 08:24.24 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/MWOcv :DDDDDD |
| 08:25.40 | bluspacecow | <------ actually has cake |
| 08:26.01 | mikma | see the comments |
| 08:26.32 | bluspacecow | no time watching Sanctuary |
| 08:27.40 | mikma | you mean, the hypnotoad |
| 08:29.52 | bluspacecow | yep |
| 08:30.02 | bluspacecow | i has cake that got apple juice spilled on it |
| 08:34.11 | Cairenn | depending on the flavour of cake, that could be really tasty |
| 08:34.25 | mikma | cock |
| 08:34.43 | bluspacecow | been marinating in the fridge :3 |
| 08:34.56 | Cairenn | eww, okay, so not so tasty |
| 08:35.06 | Humbedooh | but mushy |
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| 10:24.52 | Vladinator | when I set "includeWeapons" to 1 (secure frames, for buffs) then the temp weapon shows but the buff to the left (last one) is shown (icon) and not hidden when it disappears -_- |
| 10:25.25 | Vladinator | the game does a for loop but leaves out the last inactive buff so it doesn't hide it lol... is it me or some old known issue? just haven't played a class with weapon enchants in two years :P |
| 10:26.06 | haste | it's a known bug |
| 10:27.19 | Vladinator | aw great |
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| 11:28.51 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=262267 << I vote we re-post entire WoW API to that forum thread. |
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| 12:00.43 | Adys | oh god |
| 12:00.45 | Adys | http://www.theblackpeppercorn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Smoked-salmon-nuggets-txt-2.jpg |
| 12:00.51 | Adys | i need to stop browsing foodporn :( |
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| 12:57.08 | Vladinator | Prat-3.0 uses BNTokenCombineGivenAndSurname |
| 12:57.13 | Vladinator | but it no longer exists :P |
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| 12:58.56 | MysticalOS2 | i don't think sylv has had time to update it |
| 12:59.19 | MysticalOS2 | just change it to BNTokenFindName |
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| 13:00.07 | karl_w_w | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/project-5776/files/4-2-4-1-4/ what does semi-normal status mean? |
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| 13:00.57 | karl_w_w | why do I have a semi |
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| 13:05.00 | Vladinator | had also to add battle tag in the right position on the API before that call, so you gotta change 2 lines to make the module work |
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| 13:06.27 | MysticalOS2 | yeah probalby |
| 13:06.36 | MysticalOS2 | they took args 2 and 3, and combined them |
| 13:06.39 | MysticalOS2 | then changed 3 to battletag |
| 13:06.59 | MysticalOS2 | name+surname used to be args 2 an 3, now entire name is just 2 |
| 13:11.08 | Vladinator | yes |
| 13:11.58 | Vladinator | is there a better way than doing gsub(gsub(gsub(gsub(ERR_FRIEND_ONLINE_SS, "%.", "%%%."), "%%s", "(.-)"), "%[", "%%%["), "%]", "%%%]") ? :P |
| 13:12.11 | Vladinator | I wonder if there is some built in api to reverse a format string to become a matcher pattern |
| 13:13.12 | mitch0 | there was a lib for that back some years ago |
| 13:13.21 | End_ | yeah Deformat |
| 13:13.22 | mitch0 | deformat or somesuch |
| 13:13.33 | End_ | it fell out of use when they redid the combat log |
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| 13:24.01 | Vladinator | :( |
| 13:24.12 | Vladinator | oh I have an issue |
| 13:25.12 | Vladinator | pastebin.com/dv4ng5eq#39 |
| 13:25.16 | Vladinator | http://pastebin.com/dv4ng5eq#39 |
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| 13:25.49 | Vladinator | the problem is that when people go offline the gsub fails somehow, hmm |
| 13:25.52 | Vladinator | but online version above works |
| 13:26.34 | Vladinator | swapping the order doesn't do anything, inside ReplaceLInk that is :P |
| 13:26.57 | Vladinator | very curious to why it fails, hmm |
| 13:28.25 | Vladinator | wait.. hang on |
| 13:28.28 | mitch0 | no |
| 13:29.03 | Vladinator | nvm :P |
| 13:32.51 | foxlit | I wonder how many people set global bindings for unmodified right clicks. |
| 13:33.13 | Vladinator | hmm |
| 13:33.49 | karl_w_w | binds foxlit |
| 13:35.16 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr? |
| 13:37.19 | Vladinator | what am I doing wrong? /run print(( format(ERR_FRIEND_OFFLINE_S, "Name1"):gsub(ERR_FRIEND_OFFLINE_S:gsub("%%s", "(.-)"), format(ERR_FRIEND_OFFLINE_S, "Name2")) )) |
| 13:37.30 | Vladinator | just wanna swap Name1 with Name2 lol |
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| 13:39.53 | Elkano | 61686 items currently in my database... seems like they added some new to the server |
| 13:39.57 | Vladinator | in my code I use gsub(text, pattern, func) where the func gets an empty string instead of the supposed matched (.-) value :/ |
| 13:43.17 | Vladinator | had to swap (.-) with (.+) |
| 13:46.49 | Vladinator | is it normal when setting taintLog to 1 and no taint.log file is written?... |
| 13:47.49 | Vladinator | this guy said he turned it on (and saw in the config.wtf that taintLog is indeed set to 1), no taint.log file is created :P |
| 13:48.07 | Lopeppeppy | Why are you guys giving me the unescapable urge to sing 99 Bytes of Beer on the Wall this morning? |
| 13:52.12 | Vladinator | :3 |
| 13:52.18 | Elkano | 99 Bits of Beer would at least have made sense... ;) |
| 13:52.19 | karl_w_w | bytes Lopeppeppy |
| 13:52.22 | Vladinator | what is this "cvars.lua:-1: script ran too long"? |
| 13:52.25 | Vladinator | first time I see that lol |
| 13:53.24 | Lopeppeppy | Bits, bytes, bugger it all. Rawr. |
| 13:53.28 | Vladinator | it seems overriding DoEmote broke the map when you show it in combat lol :P |
| 13:54.12 | Elkano | I guess Blizzard put a max execution time on scripts while in combat lockdown |
| 13:54.57 | Vladinator | yeah |
| 13:55.22 | Vladinator | but not sure how this helps the users when they see errors lol |
| 13:55.32 | Vladinator | DoEmote only didn't do anything when you did /read |
| 13:55.36 | Vladinator | not sure how that took to long time :P |
| 13:58.26 | Elkano | on the other hand, it seems like they no longer disconnect you for scripts running too long out of combat |
| 14:04.23 | Vladinator | if BNConnected() then we got info of realid friends? |
| 14:05.37 | karl_w_w | what is that annoying high pitched noise that some electronics make? |
| 14:05.56 | karl_w_w | like my printer and my modem make it |
| 14:09.51 | karl_w_w | it's the only reason I look forward to losing some of my high pitch hearing |
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| 14:15.32 | Lopeppeppy | It's the claws of the server ferrets squeaking across the wheels... |
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| 14:18.45 | karl_w_w | oh that explains it |
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| 15:13.07 | Jamash | karl_w_w: capacitors and transformers can make high pitched noises |
| 15:14.11 | zenzelezz | http://imgur.com/4gD3J |
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| 15:18.46 | Lopeppeppy | snorgles zenzelezz. |
| 15:19.59 | zenzelezz | ohai peppy! |
| 15:20.51 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:22.22 | bluspacecow | yum! |
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| 15:25.36 | Vladinator | question, how do I find out what line in my addon caused the taint? |
| 15:25.40 | Vladinator | for example |
| 15:25.41 | Vladinator | An action was blocked in combat because of taint from Console - SpellFlyout:Hide() |
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| 15:25.57 | Vladinator | somehow I taint hiding SpellFlyout but doesn't say from where lol :( |
| 15:27.16 | Unkle | use the /taintLog 2 command and wait for the "blocked by an AddOn message." Then go read the log. It will be a couple megs in size. |
| 15:27.37 | nevcairiel | be warned though, reading taing logs is an art in itself |
| 15:28.22 | Lopeppeppy | How in the seven HELLS is it already past 11? |
| 15:28.30 | Lopeppeppy | is "enjoying" the first day of classes. |
| 15:28.34 | Vladinator | ah yes I see, 2 showed more info |
| 15:28.48 | Vladinator | my frame:EnableMouseWheel(true) broke my spellbook in combat |
| 15:28.48 | Vladinator | :D |
| 15:29.03 | Vladinator | wrote code to page change on mousewheel :P |
| 15:29.06 | Unkle | Right. You have to be careful to follow the log because a) it'll be huge, b) it'll contain lots of refrences mostly to stuff that has nothing to do with you, and finally c) you'll "fix" the wrong thing a dozen times while trying to figure it out. |
| 15:29.55 | nevcairiel | tracing a taint back to its origin can take oh so many steps |
| 15:30.17 | nevcairiel | and requires reading of the framexml code to figure out how it got there :) |
| 15:30.47 | Vladinator | do not taint PlaySound it breaks everything :P |
| 15:31.21 | nevcairiel | tainting any C API functions is usually a bad idea |
| 15:31.37 | Unkle | There are lots of things you can get away with tainting - C functions are not amoung them. |
| 15:31.48 | Vladinator | what was the cvar for turning off sound effects? so playsound doesn't make a squeeck? |
| 15:32.13 | Shirik | for k,v in pairs(_G) do if type(v) = function _G[k] = function(...) return v(...) end; end |
| 15:32.15 | nevcairiel | i suppose it also depends on which C function you try to go after, some are only used in rare places, but yeah |
| 15:32.20 | nevcairiel | be careful :p |
| 15:32.46 | nevcairiel | Shirik: _G[k] = v would be enough |
| 15:32.53 | nevcairiel | dont even have to test if its a function |
| 15:32.57 | Vladinator | ( Sound_EnableSFX ) |
| 15:33.00 | Shirik | oh I guess that's true |
| 15:33.18 | Shirik | also I failed at the == |
| 15:33.23 | Shirik | but it was close enough! |
| 15:33.29 | nevcairiel | and the quoting of function |
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| 15:33.36 | Shirik | ? |
| 15:33.42 | Shirik | oh |
| 15:33.42 | nevcairiel | you know, string literal |
| 15:33.42 | Shirik | wow |
| 15:33.45 | Shirik | yeah that was really bad |
| 15:33.53 | Fisker | heys nevcairiel |
| 15:33.53 | foxlit | shirik no longer writes any code |
| 15:33.54 | Shirik | This is what compilers are for, anyway |
| 15:33.56 | Fisker | doesn't hey Shirik |
| 15:33.58 | foxlit | it's all card games now. |
| 15:34.01 | foxlit | :P |
| 15:34.09 | Shirik | Shirik has been neck-deep in C++ lately |
| 15:34.17 | Shirik | template ALL THE THING |
| 15:34.18 | Shirik | s |
| 15:34.30 | nevcairiel | you do know that templates are bad, right |
| 15:34.38 | Ressy | oh. C++. fun. :) |
| 15:34.39 | Shirik | templates are ont bad |
| 15:34.41 | Shirik | misused templates are bad |
| 15:34.46 | foxlit | nah, he's too far gone. This'll take years to recover from. |
| 15:34.58 | Shirik | compile-time polymorphism is a wonderful thing |
| 15:36.26 | Dagmar | ...at least until it manages to escape containment and gets into the sewers. |
| 15:37.13 | Unkle | Dagmar this has already happened. |
| 15:37.57 | Dagmar | Probably time to start dumping a lot of lye down there then |
| 15:38.13 | Jamash | how I summon a companion minipet in a macro in 5.0.4? |
| 15:38.44 | foxlit | Jamash: here, take this gun. It'll be easier than the misery you're about to navigate. |
| 15:38.51 | Jamash | oh nooooooooooo |
| 15:39.01 | foxlit | but the canonical answer is C_PetJournal.SummonPetById(petId) |
| 15:39.08 | Jamash | I noticed that /cast Murky will unsummon him if he's out but not summon him if he's not |
| 15:39.12 | Jamash | bah |
| 15:39.57 | Jamash | I have "/castsequence Murky, Big Blizzard Bear, Murloc Costume |
| 15:39.57 | Jamash | " that I'm trying to fix |
| 15:40.01 | Jamash | oop |
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| 15:40.02 | foxlit | no |
| 15:40.30 | Jamash | no? |
| 15:40.53 | foxlit | no, that won't work. :( |
| 15:41.04 | Jamash | I know I'm going to regret this but what's a petID? |
| 15:41.19 | foxlit | unique identifier for a pet in your pet journal |
| 15:41.25 | foxlit | that's specific to *your* pet journal |
| 15:41.47 | Jamash | ~lart Blizzard |
| 15:41.47 | purl | executes killall -TERM Blizzard |
| 15:41.47 | Unkle | You have asked one of the Seven Taboo Questions. You must be punished. Make your time. You have no hope to succeed. |
| 15:42.06 | nevcairiel | you sure there simply isnt a new slash for that? |
| 15:42.11 | Shirik | You have no chance to survive make your time. |
| 15:42.19 | Jamash | pak chooie unf |
| 15:42.23 | foxlit | spell aliases are basically dead. |
| 15:42.34 | foxlit | they only resolve if you knew the pet before the merge. |
| 15:42.44 | foxlit | and even when they do resolve, they don't actually work. |
| 15:42.45 | nevcairiel | sounds like a bug |
| 15:42.51 | Lopeppeppy | Ha ha ha. |
| 15:43.09 | Jamash | unworking as intended? |
| 15:43.11 | foxlit | nevcairiel: more like half-deprecated functionality |
| 15:43.23 | foxlit | The problem is, you can now have multiple instances of the same pet type |
| 15:43.23 | nevcairiel | well thats the question |
| 15:43.26 | Jamash | !api summonpetbyid |
| 15:43.26 | lua_bot | C_PetJournal.SummonPetByID: This function is not yet documented (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/C_PetJournal.SummonPetByID) |
| 15:43.31 | Jamash | poop |
| 15:44.29 | foxlit | So summoning spells no longer work because they no longer uniquely identify what it is you actually want to do |
| 15:44.44 | foxlit | (at least in principle) -- so that entire thing seems to be replaced by unique pet IDs. |
| 15:45.06 | nevcairiel | but of course you cant have global ids, because you would then run into the same problem |
| 15:45.43 | nevcairiel | so, ids local to your petjournal |
| 15:45.46 | foxlit | which is why the pet IDs identify an *instance* of a pet in your journal. |
| 15:45.46 | nevcairiel | it kinda makes sense |
| 15:45.49 | nevcairiel | even though its annoying |
| 15:46.40 | durcyn | the C_PetJournal functions do return global mob IDs, iirc, they're just affected by the filtering options in the frame |
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| 15:48.18 | Vladinator | Torhal: http://pastebin.com/XmKpwUiH :P |
| 15:48.35 | foxlit | well, the good news is they aren't protected, so if you wanted to, you could write your own slash commands |
| 15:48.55 | foxlit | but as I whined on and on about yesterday night, the pet journal API is painful to work with :( |
| 15:49.07 | nevcairiel | abstract it away and make it better |
| 15:49.27 | Jamash | foxlib |
| 15:50.10 | Unkle | He already has a full-time job... |
| 15:50.38 | foxlit | I think End_ mentioned working on something like that. |
| 15:50.39 | nevcairiel | full-time jobs are only usually 8 hours a day, there is 16 left |
| 15:51.53 | foxlit | I did end up writing something to work around it, but it's leaky -- I still rely on pet IDs, they're just wrapped neatly up into configuration interfaces. |
| 15:52.06 | Unkle | He needs time for sleep, food, occasional encounters with non-digital humans, oppotunities for "encounters" with non-digital humans, etc. And you want him to write more hobby code. You're a cruel, cruel man nevcairiel. |
| 15:52.40 | nevcairiel | Eating while coding is not hard, get with the program |
| 15:52.55 | Unkle | either is sleeping? |
| 15:53.24 | Dagmar | No, you can't do that |
| 15:53.25 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:53.34 | nevcairiel | Sleeping is a bit more tricky, but some coders are known to write code in their sleep |
| 15:53.37 | g0urra | madness? |
| 15:53.39 | Dagmar | However, it's clear that sleeping poses no impediment to Oracle database administration. |
| 15:53.40 | nevcairiel | or so people say |
| 15:54.08 | Jamash | hmm, now why am I getting the message "no nickname given" in my server log every ten seconds |
| 15:54.56 | Jamash | could be adiirc, could be znc |
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| 15:57.05 | Jamash | huh, adiirc was sending "NICK" repeatedly with no nickname, weird, doing /nick Jamash fixed it |
| 15:58.13 | Lopeppeppy | I am in favor of these "encounters" with non-pixel people. |
| 16:00.46 | Jamash | foxlit: reminds me of the function I wrote to enumerate reputations |
| 16:00.57 | Jamash | or was it weapon skills |
| 16:01.09 | Jamash | yeah it was weapon skills, back when those existed |
| 16:01.43 | End_ | foxlit: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=20175 |
| 16:03.50 | End_ | between the other stuff I was doing, it took me like six hours to actually make that thread from when I first started on it |
| 16:03.55 | Jamash | !api GetPetInfoByPetID |
| 16:03.55 | lua_bot | C_PetJournal.GetPetInfoByPetID: This function is not yet documented (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/C_PetJournal.GetPetInfoByPetID) |
| 16:04.14 | Jamash | to the grep machine! |
| 16:04.40 | foxlit | End_: while I probably won't be using a library, you could look into adding :GetAllPetIDs([t]), :GetPetBySpeciesID(speciesId) |
| 16:05.14 | End_ | I'll consider it |
| 16:05.31 | End_ | GetAllPetIDs could be implemented pretty easily |
| 16:06.06 | foxlit | I imagine if you're maintaining a list of pet IDs internally, both are relatively easy |
| 16:06.25 | foxlit | on the other hand, if you're filtering in response to every :Iterate, it's probably a bit more difficult. |
| 16:06.41 | End_ | the first would be literally just copying the internal table |
| 16:07.14 | End_ | in the first version of the library (1.0) it exposed it directly, but I don't want to do that so I can change things internally more easily |
| 16:07.57 | End_ | The second it doesn't currently store enough to handle directly |
| 16:08.29 | End_ | hm |
| 16:09.16 | End_ | Either I can add more tables or add a convienance function that just iterates through running GetPetInfoByPetID |
| 16:09.27 | Adys | theres little in this world thats more satisfying than blocking someone trying to download my mpq archive and watching his bot get chain 403s |
| 16:09.50 | foxlit | Adys: no, Location: them to somewhere nice |
| 16:10.17 | Adys | foxlit: given than its an httrack bot there would be little i could do |
| 16:10.25 | Adys | that would have any meaning that is |
| 16:10.59 | foxlit | mm, so can't send it offsite to waste someone else's abundant bandwidth? |
| 16:11.32 | Adys | give me a good, really large porn file and I'm game. |
| 16:11.43 | Adys | tail -f is a surprisingly satisfying tool though |
| 16:11.46 | foxlit | I was going to suggest you figure out a way to gzip /dev/zero |
| 16:11.58 | Adys | well yes but that would kind of defeat the point |
| 16:12.04 | Adys | he's leeching all my upstream |
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| 16:12.38 | foxlit | Hm, gzip /dev/zero in small bursts with sleep() mixed in. |
| 16:12.50 | Adys | now that would require effort. |
| 16:12.56 | foxlit | I wonder what sort of compression ratio you can realistically achieve with HTTP. |
| 16:13.21 | Primer | about as good as gzip |
| 16:13.29 | foxlit | which is? |
| 16:13.45 | Primer | well, gzipping /dev/zeo is not a good idea |
| 16:13.52 | Adys | +Mozilla/4.5 (compatible; HTTrack 3.0x; Windows 98) |
| 16:13.54 | Primer | but /dev/random...sure |
| 16:13.57 | Adys | the Windows 98 part worries me |
| 16:14.10 | Primer | Adys: forged |
| 16:14.20 | Adys | i would hope so |
| 16:14.20 | foxlit | Primer: you missed the point entirely. |
| 16:14.28 | Primer | I wasn't here at the start |
| 16:14.40 | Primer | but I like to give my opinion regardless :) |
| 16:14.42 | Adys | thats no excuse |
| 16:14.48 | Adys | you're expected to be a psychic in this channel |
| 16:14.59 | foxlit | And why would it be a good idea to gzip /dev/random, then? |
| 16:15.00 | Primer | presses fingers to temple... |
| 16:15.12 | Primer | because /dev/zero is just zeroes |
| 16:15.22 | foxlit | .... and? |
| 16:15.25 | Primer | "this file has 20 billion zeros" == 1k file |
| 16:15.29 | Primer | at most |
| 16:15.45 | foxlit | Now you're actually getting closer to answering a useful question |
| 16:15.57 | foxlit | How much space would gzip require to encode 10MB of zeroes? |
| 16:16.17 | Primer | probably the same as 10T or 10P |
| 16:17.31 | Primer | you'll probably get the worst compression from /dev/random, which will have no real patterns to it |
| 16:17.35 | Unkle | I'm getting a premonition... you will go home tonight, you will have dinner... it will not be particularly tasty. |
| 16:17.39 | Adys | oh there we go |
| 16:17.40 | Adys | Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/15.0 |
| 16:17.44 | Adys | the guy's pissed off |
| 16:17.48 | Adys | hes coming to check with his browser. |
| 16:18.25 | foxlit | Primer: okay, here's what you missed: the point of the exercise is to spend as little bandwidth as possible to produce a file as large as possible on someone else's computer. |
| 16:18.46 | foxlit | [over HTTP] |
| 16:18.51 | Primer | foxlit: I've done this |
| 16:19.05 | Primer | I once created a 1k zip that expanded to 1T |
| 16:19.15 | foxlit | well done you. |
| 16:19.15 | Unkle | without even delivering a horse-porn payload. what's the point? [snerk] |
| 16:19.18 | foxlit | However, HTTP constraints. |
| 16:20.00 | Primer | mod_deflate? |
| 16:20.16 | Primer | Is what it's called, IIRC |
| 16:20.39 | Primer | You could just write a quick script to deliver the binary content |
| 16:20.46 | Primer | with the appropriate headers |
| 16:21.18 | Primer | and bypass mod_deflate |
| 16:21.30 | foxlit | Use whatever technology is widely supported by HTTP clients, but give me a *real* ratio between bytes sent and bytes saved to disk by the client. |
| 16:22.10 | Primer | chrome reports that in its debugger |
| 16:22.22 | Primer | not sure about firebug, but I would imaging it does too |
| 16:22.27 | Primer | imagine, even |
| 16:22.30 | Adys | chrome:net-internals |
| 16:22.34 | Adys | the last page you'll ever need |
| 16:22.41 | Primer | so craft the file and wrap a delivery script around it |
| 16:22.57 | Primer | done |
| 16:22.59 | foxlit | Primer: number please. |
| 16:23.12 | Jamash | you would want /dev/urandom, not /dev/random |
| 16:23.13 | foxlit | I'm *not interested* in hearing trivial observations about how it could be done. :) |
| 16:23.24 | Primer | Jamash: no |
| 16:23.37 | Primer | Jamash: /dev/urandom doesn't use entropy |
| 16:23.50 | Primer | and is less random than /dev/random |
| 16:23.59 | Jamash | well, if you have a hardware RNG then /dev/random should be fine |
| 16:24.20 | Primer | Jamash: but you do risk running out of entropy with /dev/random, I'll give you that |
| 16:24.24 | Jamash | but it blocks if it runs out of entropy, and if you're trying to flood a downloader with garbage you want to just spin it |
| 16:24.46 | Primer | Jamash: I think that for this exercise they've decided that /dev/zero is best |
| 16:25.01 | Jamash | sure |
| 16:25.21 | Primer | foxlit: so you just want the compression ratio? |
| 16:25.25 | Primer | 1:infinity |
| 16:25.27 | Primer | there |
| 16:26.26 | foxlit | Primer: I remain unimpressed by that attempted joke. |
| 16:27.10 | Primer | Ok, so the numbers might be slightly off |
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| 16:28.07 | Unkle | Lovely. A guy forgets his laptop so I get to spend my morning taking Linux off this device, installing Windows, Office, etc. As often as I reinstall Windows this month, I should make a bootable USB installer. |
| 16:28.57 | Primer | sec, I'm talking to the people that did this |
| 16:28.59 | Lopeppeppy | You should, Unkle. *hug* |
| 16:29.05 | nilyaK | install libre office, tell him it's a fancy version of windows |
| 16:29.17 | Lopeppeppy | Just because it's not the first week of classes doesn't mean that you don't have idjits at your doorstep. |
| 16:29.32 | Primer | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip_bomb |
| 16:29.38 | Primer | foxlit: ^^^^^ |
| 16:29.54 | Unkle | nilyaK Yeah, that would be hilarious for about 10 minutes. |
| 16:29.57 | Sintacks | i have a 32PB zipbomb |
| 16:30.35 | bluspacecow | Cairenn|afk: http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll210/Ayshela/?action=view¤t=kittenhugs.gif |
| 16:31.13 | foxlit | Primer: that's still not a number. |
| 16:31.31 | foxlit | plus I'm pretty sure that HTTP traffic isn't encoded as a .zip file. |
| 16:31.45 | Primer | Are you working on a thesis or something? Why do you need an exact number? |
| 16:31.57 | foxlit | Idle curiousity. |
| 16:32.44 | nilyaK | Unkle: libreoffice is fine though and I haven't had any issues using it for work =/ |
| 16:32.50 | Primer | Is you goal to create a unique file every time? Surely this can be done programatically |
| 16:33.33 | foxlit | no, I don't care about the file content, only the file size, as saved to disk by an HTTP client. |
| 16:34.05 | Unkle | nilyaK the problem is that he wouldn't understand Linux (I turned this laptop into a linux box for educational purposes). |
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| 16:37.19 | Primer | foxlit: I propose that it would be trivial to create a script that can create zip bombs of the desired target size whose "source" size would be trivial |
| 16:37.20 | Jamash | you can use mod_gzip to serve gzip encoded files directly |
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| 16:37.55 | Jamash | of course the spider would have to accept gzip encoded data |
| 16:38.21 | Primer | good point |
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| 16:39.57 | foxlit | Primer: it's the *bandwidth* that's more interesting. |
| 16:40.21 | foxlit | If you end up exhausting your monthly limit before filling someone's hard drive, you've lost. |
| 16:40.29 | Fisker | why would oyu bandwitdh a guy? |
| 16:40.29 | nilyaK | limit/ |
| 16:40.51 | Primer | foxlit: the bandwidth would be the source size |
| 16:41.15 | Jamash | according to the website, httrack does accept gzip |
| 16:41.37 | foxlit | okay, I misread [["source"]] as "source code", you meant "compressed" |
| 16:41.54 | Primer | yes |
| 16:42.26 | foxlit | but in that case, we're back to you saying "that's easy to do!", me saying "yes, but what's the actual efficiency" and you being unable to answer. |
| 16:42.38 | Jamash | it's the efficiency of gzip |
| 16:42.57 | bluspacecow | *noms on jamash* |
| 16:42.59 | bluspacecow | :3 |
| 16:43.47 | foxlit | Jamash: yes, but what is the efficiency of gzip? |
| 16:43.58 | Jamash | I leave that as an exercise for the reader |
| 16:45.07 | foxlit | about 1:1000 is what I get. |
| 16:45.12 | Jamash | ditto |
| 16:46.00 | foxlit | but under what conditions, Jamash? :) |
| 16:50.57 | Arrowmaster | http://imgur.com/r/pics/cqaAa |
| 16:52.02 | nilyaK | I need one of these. my current normal size dog bed is too small for me to curl up on. |
| 16:57.12 | Ackis | hey Torhal|work |
| 16:58.01 | Alram | hey Ackis |
| 16:58.17 | Ackis | hi Alram |
| 16:58.27 | Jamash | <Fisker> More like Torhal|jerk |
| 16:59.07 | bluspacecow | LOL |
| 17:00.17 | Jamash | that reminds me, there were at least a dozen league of legends cosplayers at gencon |
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| 17:00.47 | Jamash | I was confused. |
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| 17:04.03 | Krapsy | is the web api used for any addons? |
| 17:04.13 | End_ | what do you mean used |
| 17:04.18 | zenzelezz | "the web api"? |
| 17:04.47 | End_ | an AddOn can't use the web api directly...are you asking if any use it indirectly? (like to datamine certain things?) |
| 17:05.16 | Krapsy | i guess |
| 17:05.52 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=262322 << there we go, whining posted. |
| 17:08.47 | zenzelezz | foxlit: that post is too mannered and well-formed. In order for it to be seriously considered by Blizzard you must add some all-caps, some meaningless abbreviations, and preferably also some misconceptions of how things work |
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| 17:12.18 | Torhal|work | zenzelezz: Multiple consecutive instances of punctuation. |
| 17:12.22 | Torhal|work | Can't forget that. |
| 17:12.38 | End_ | Can'''' YOU? |
| 17:12.44 | Torhal|work | Vladinator: Just saw your taintlog - what is it saying about your AddOn? |
| 17:13.02 | Torhal|work | End_: Heh!!!!! |
| 17:13.03 | Torhal|work | :D |
| 17:13.10 | Krapsy | shouldnt that be on the blizz forums foxlit |
| 17:13.26 | zenzelezz | Torhal|work, End_: you guys are weird :::://// |
| 17:13.31 | End_ | nou |
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| 17:14.11 | foxlit | Krapsy: probably yes, but this felt easier for me. |
| 17:15.06 | Krapsy | but how will blizzard know what you want? :p |
| 17:15.08 | End_ | well, there is a Blizzard employee that lurks wowi, so it might get seen. |
| 17:15.09 | Vladinator | ye |
| 17:15.18 | End_ | (at least one anyway) |
| 17:15.25 | Vladinator | but I didn't see it, but I didn't either see anything that breaks calendar, did you? |
| 17:15.55 | Krapsy | ah ok |
| 17:16.53 | kd3 | this is pretty impressive fanart of lakeshire: http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2012/september/fanart-1292-full.jpg |
| 17:17.10 | zenzelezz | holy heck |
| 17:17.41 | kd3 | I fear to think how long it took to render |
| 17:17.46 | foxlit | kd3: somone correct the angle on that camera! |
| 17:18.21 | End_ | hehe |
| 17:18.38 | End_ | that's pretty amazing looking |
| 17:19.16 | Elkano | it even has a quest item ;) |
| 17:19.21 | Krapsy | damn |
| 17:20.50 | Adys | kd3: source? |
| 17:21.26 | kd3 | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/media/fanart/?keywords=&view#/fanart-1292 |
| 17:21.28 | nevcairiel | fanart? thats the wow hd pack |
| 17:21.29 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 17:21.45 | Adys | "Looks like an ingame screenshot to me" |
| 17:22.31 | foxlit | I wonder how long until we have technology that basically generates an image from "I imagine a house by a lake with a tower and a bridge in the distance" |
| 17:23.12 | foxlit | s/long/long it'll take/ |
| 17:23.19 | Adys | https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=a+house+by+a+lake+with+a+tower+and+a+bridge+in+the+distance&num=100&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=_zhGUKG3EIO40QXG5IDAAw&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1680&bih=954 |
| 17:23.22 | Adys | probably not that long. |
| 17:23.25 | foxlit | and maybe until/before, but that's meh. |
| 17:23.56 | Adys | http://cache.virtualtourist.com/15/4189129-Kapellbruecke_Chapel_Bridge_and_water_tower_Lake_of_Lucerne.jpg |
| 17:23.59 | Adys | pretty impressive |
| 17:24.02 | Adys | (my 2nd result) |
| 17:24.03 | foxlit | Adys: I suppose a harder version is requiring a 3D model. |
| 17:24.20 | Adys | NOW YOU JUST WANNA LIVE IN THE FUTURE DONT YOU |
| 17:24.38 | foxlit | always. |
| 17:24.54 | nevcairiel | every day is a new kind of future |
| 17:25.25 | Krapsy | i kinda want wow to get rifts engine |
| 17:25.30 | foxlit | Semantic video compression would be cool too |
| 17:26.18 | foxlit | "You see a guy talking, with a forest of conifers in the background" |
| 17:27.01 | nevcairiel | would work wonders for the blind folk |
| 17:27.17 | zenzelezz | You fetch your robe and wizard's hat and approach him. |
| 17:27.33 | nevcairiel | but then, just replace the movie with the audio book, and write software to generate a movie from the book automatically |
| 17:28.13 | foxlit | mm, having a script makes things slightly easier |
| 17:28.26 | zenzelezz | should be careful though |
| 17:28.34 | zenzelezz | scripts are responsible for a lot of bad things |
| 17:28.42 | zenzelezz | like Twilight, or Alien 3 |
| 17:29.20 | Krapsy | "So Blizzard charge 10€ for a simple name change, which is just a simple update in a database, but wanna forbid to charge small fees for sites which put alot of effort and resources in it for some premium features, which ppl dont have to buy nor need, thats a nice morale stance." |
| 17:29.58 | Unkle | Someone isn't making much sense. |
| 17:30.08 | Torhal|work | Indeedy |
| 17:30.32 | zenzelezz | Unkle: I wish you wouldn't refer to me as "someone" |
| 17:30.46 | foxlit | why are you quoting an almost year-old post? :) |
| 17:31.00 | Krapsy | why not :) |
| 17:31.01 | Unkle | Well then. :| |
| 17:31.54 | Krapsy | there hasnt been a post in that thread since april, strange |
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| 17:33.56 | F16Gaming | hm |
| 17:34.24 | F16Gaming | regarding Carbonite fan update, would it still be against ARR if only the actual .patch file was posted? (difference between current carbonite.lua and patched carbonite.lua) |
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| 17:35.37 | Torhal|work | Yes. |
| 17:35.42 | Torhal|work | Derivitive work. |
| 17:36.11 | F16Gaming | :/ well those guys who hosted diffs for different minecraft versions managed to get around. |
| 17:36.22 | Krapsy | F16Gaming: what addons did you make |
| 17:36.32 | F16Gaming | Kraps: KillTrack, Command, Chocobo |
| 17:36.35 | F16Gaming | i didn't make the fan update |
| 17:36.48 | F16Gaming | Krapsy* |
| 17:36.52 | F16Gaming | stupid autocomplete |
| 17:38.19 | Vladinator | bartender bug on the prophet in gundrak |
| 17:38.35 | Vladinator | draktharon keep* |
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| 17:38.52 | Vladinator | his shapeshift didn't give me any bars :P |
| 17:38.56 | Vladinator | kept my normal bar |
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| 17:41.05 | nevcairiel | apparently that guy is weird |
| 17:41.14 | nevcairiel | wonder if i can get there solo to test |
| 17:41.34 | foxlit | ~74 instance? Probably. |
| 17:41.48 | foxlit | You could solo Nexus bosses at 80. |
| 17:41.50 | Krapsy | i had a thing yesterday where swatter blocked dominos and i couldnt use hotkeys until /reload |
| 17:42.05 | Krapsy | this happened twice |
| 17:42.09 | Unkle | I had the same issue with an older version of dominos. |
| 17:42.10 | zenzelezz | swatter? |
| 17:42.13 | Dagmar | Well, good luck with the last dragon in there. It's a bit ouchy |
| 17:42.22 | Unkle | the bar not switching thing that is. |
| 17:42.42 | nevcairiel | last i talked to tuller, he d idnt really know what was wrong with the draktharon boss either |
| 17:42.46 | foxlit | Dagmar: dunno about dragons, I was after the christmas hat at one point. |
| 17:42.58 | kd3 | I've been having issues with the DMF games not using the dominos bars either |
| 17:43.07 | nevcairiel | now dmf works with bartender |
| 17:44.11 | nevcairiel | how the hell does one get to northrend these days |
| 17:44.16 | nevcairiel | do i really have to take the boat o.O |
| 17:44.24 | kd3 | yup |
| 17:44.24 | Dagmar | nevcairiel: Yes. |
| 17:44.25 | Krapsy | magic |
| 17:44.29 | Krapsy | or a boat |
| 17:44.41 | zenzelezz | preferably a magic boat |
| 17:44.42 | Krapsy | ask a mage to port? |
| 17:44.42 | Dagmar | nevcariel: The confusion you are experiencing is normal |
| 17:44.44 | nevcairiel | the new city in pandaria has a dalaran portal i hope? |
| 17:44.53 | Stanzilla | how do I make an usb stick bootable on os x? |
| 17:44.57 | nevcairiel | it has portals to all other places at least =p |
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| 17:45.43 | Unkle | Stanzilla set it as a start up disk in the control panel. |
| 17:46.42 | Stanzilla | I actually want to create a usb rescue stick (kaspersky) shit and the only pc available is a mac |
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| 17:47.50 | Primer | use dd |
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| 17:48.12 | Primer | macs have this great app called "Terminal" |
| 17:50.11 | zenzelezz | https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/402820_10151042830891659_681497933_n.jpg |
| 17:50.20 | zenzelezz | don't know about "great", but that |
| 17:50.29 | zenzelezz | that's because I'm uncomfortable with Mac shortcuts |
| 17:51.11 | zenzelezz | being unable to really use the alt key through SSH is painful |
| 17:51.15 | Primer | Ok, going to try to fix this addon bug again...one that I can't consistently replicate |
| 17:52.24 | Primer | and the problem it creates is to hang the UI (guessing infinite recursion) |
| 17:53.25 | Torhal|work | zenzelezz: o.O |
| 17:53.32 | Torhal|work | I use most *NIX shortcuts just fine. |
| 17:53.43 | Torhal|work | Which ALT keystrokes are you missing? |
| 17:54.11 | Primer | man, if I can fix this bug and implement the new features I've been meaning to add for years now...this would be a great addon! |
| 17:54.16 | Primer | If I do say so myself |
| 17:54.25 | Primer | Torhal: bored enough to help me again? :) |
| 17:55.11 | zenzelezz | Torhal|work: in my case I can make Terminal make Alt work, but then it breaks the regular Terminal shortcuts |
| 17:55.18 | Torhal|work | Primer: On lunch acvtually |
| 17:55.19 | Torhal|work | Hehe |
| 17:55.28 | zenzelezz | it's probably to do with my keyboard layout or something, but nevertheless it bothers me :) |
| 17:55.43 | Primer | Torhal: does that mean yes? I take my lunch time very seriously (as in, don't bother me) |
| 17:56.12 | Vladinator | why is it that the IsMounted check is invalid when you call it on UNIT_AURA event? |
| 17:56.16 | Torhal|work | Primer: How intensive is this? :) |
| 17:56.26 | Vladinator | if I mount up it says it's false, when I dismount it says it's true (because it's delayed LOL) |
| 17:56.28 | Torhal|work | Primer: Also, BRB in 5. |
| 17:56.35 | Vladinator | anyone got a tip on a workaround? |
| 17:57.00 | Sintacks | i really don't like new powerauras |
| 17:57.08 | kd3 | ....okay |
| 17:57.16 | Primer | Torhal: I really don't know. I can't consistently replicate the bug, and when I can, the client hangs and I get no debug output |
| 17:57.33 | kd3 | I just flew from crystalsong to icecrown and just regained all of the skills I've had forever |
| 17:57.39 | Sintacks | i can't even get a simple fucking Lifebloom tracker to work |
| 17:57.45 | Primer | Vladinator: the addon I'm working on uses that. Works fine |
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| 17:58.01 | Vladinator | ok, I just looked at my code for cataclysm and it didn't work that well then :P |
| 17:58.06 | nebula169 | kd3: happens when you go between sharded zones |
| 17:58.18 | Primer | IsMounted(), IsSwimming(), and IsFlying() |
| 17:58.19 | kd3 | ah, ok. was about to get spooked |
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| 17:58.43 | Vladinator | Primer: I hope this means they fixed it! :D |
| 17:58.53 | kd3 | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/2e64c1394aa6b871c0f001608221d737.jpg |
| 17:58.53 | neutronimity | Fixed what? |
| 17:58.57 | Primer | Vladinator: not sure anything was actually broken |
| 17:59.18 | End_ | oh hah that's funny |
| 17:59.19 | Vladinator | as I said, when I used UNIT_AURA and checked if I was mounted with IsMounted() it would return invalid information |
| 17:59.28 | neutronimity | :o |
| 17:59.30 | Primer | Vladinator: because it's been working pretty consistently for me |
| 17:59.32 | Vladinator | because the aura was showing earlier |
| 17:59.49 | Primer | Vladinator: I have a dedicated loop for the checks |
| 17:59.53 | Vladinator | my old code that I used a year ago or more used a lot of code to fix this issue I had back then. |
| 18:00.04 | Primer | because I found that using events didn't work too well |
| 18:00.15 | Primer | such as unit_aura |
| 18:00.46 | Primer | an onupdate loop, that is |
| 18:01.15 | Primer | that's separate, and tunable, from the main onupdate loop (which is also tunable) |
| 18:01.24 | Primer | on my machine I just run both with no delay |
| 18:01.28 | Primer | and it's fine |
| 18:03.08 | Primer | So I've been thinking about creating some addon comm to my addon and dual boxing and sending the debug comm to the other client for when I'm able to trigger the bug |
| 18:03.16 | Primer | Is that unheard of? |
| 18:03.24 | nevcairiel | draktharon is way easier then i expected, i just moonfired my way through the instance |
| 18:03.26 | Primer | Because I can see no other way to debug this |
| 18:03.28 | Mr_Rabies | launcher update :O |
| 18:03.57 | Primer | awww looks like they fixed the smoldering egg drop from normal Rag |
| 18:04.20 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, we killed him last night, no drop |
| 18:04.50 | Primer | I got two mounts, one for each of my accounts |
| 18:04.53 | Primer | 4 total runs |
| 18:05.02 | Mr_Rabies | i had no clue the drop rate was messed up, i was just running rag with some friends from another server for the hell of it |
| 18:05.06 | End_ | we knew they fixed it, but people still wanted to do firelands last night because some haven't seen it, which suits me since I'd like to finish my staff still |
| 18:06.01 | End_ | we might try to do heroic rag tonight, which I feel like will probably end in tears |
| 18:06.04 | Primer | So, this addon comm for debug thing...any thoughts? |
| 18:06.10 | End_ | but hey more staff fraggles |
| 18:06.15 | Primer | I'm guessing this is not a novel concept |
| 18:06.23 | End_ | Primer: you can try it, but I don't think you'll get any useful if the client is freezing up |
| 18:06.38 | End_ | s/useful/useful info/ |
| 18:06.59 | Primer | I just need to know what event loop it's infinitely recursing on, presuming this is actually what's happening |
| 18:07.07 | End_ | oh I see |
| 18:07.18 | End_ | go for it |
| 18:07.46 | Torhal|work | Primer: Oh, same issue as before? |
| 18:07.49 | Mr_Rabies | uhh what |
| 18:07.53 | Mr_Rabies | i zone into stormwind and get |
| 18:08.01 | Primer | Torhal: yes |
| 18:08.09 | Primer | removing that one event did nothing to fix it |
| 18:08.10 | Mr_Rabies | [14:07]You have gained the Language: Darnassian skill. |
| 18:08.11 | Mr_Rabies | [14:07]Your skill in Daggers has increased to 300. |
| 18:08.11 | Mr_Rabies | [14:07]You have gained the Polearms skill. |
| 18:08.11 | Mr_Rabies | [14:07]You have gained the Unarmed skill. |
| 18:08.11 | Mr_Rabies | [14:07]You have gained the Engineering skill. |
| 18:08.12 | Mr_Rabies | [14:07]Your skill in Staves has increased to 358. |
| 18:08.13 | Mr_Rabies | O_o |
| 18:08.15 | End_ | that's what kd3 saw |
| 18:08.18 | kd3 | that was me a few minutes ago |
| 18:08.19 | End_ | apparently it's shared zones |
| 18:08.19 | kd3 | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/2e64c1394aa6b871c0f001608221d737.jpg |
| 18:08.29 | Primer | I still kept it removed since it wasn't necessary...PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD, IIRC |
| 18:08.42 | Krapsy | Mr_Rabies: welcome to the future! |
| 18:08.47 | Mr_Rabies | it's probably some wonky stuff regarding cross-realm zones |
| 18:09.11 | Torhal|work | Primer: Ah, yeah - I don't have the time to get into all that right now unfortunately :/ |
| 18:09.17 | Mr_Rabies | i'm sure it's hell on addons, though |
| 18:09.29 | Primer | Torhal: no problem |
| 18:09.34 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, it just happened again when i ran into elwynn again |
| 18:09.38 | Torhal|work | Erm, weren't weapon skills all removed long ago? o.O |
| 18:09.45 | kd3 | yah |
| 18:10.00 | Mr_Rabies | huge frame spike then spam of learning things |
| 18:10.01 | End_ | "removed" |
| 18:10.03 | durcyn | they exist as equip restrictions only now, usually hidden |
| 18:10.04 | Torhal|work | So WTF on their increase? |
| 18:10.05 | End_ | nothing really goes away ;-p |
| 18:10.08 | Torhal|work | Ah |
| 18:10.24 | Torhal|work | End_: Bullshit. In the beta, they completely nuked the old Fishing spell ID. |
| 18:10.36 | End_ | heh |
| 18:10.37 | Torhal|work | *POOF* Gone. |
| 18:10.43 | Torhal|work | How bizarre is THAT? |
| 18:10.58 | End_ | I'd be surprised if that fishing id was ever reused though! |
| 18:11.01 | End_ | er spell id |
| 18:11.23 | Krapsy | is fishing actually better now |
| 18:11.23 | Torhal|work | They've been doing it with profession spells/item IDs for awhile now. |
| 18:11.36 | Torhal|work | Pure hell on ARL and I'm sure WoWHead has fun |
| 18:11.42 | End_ | fishing doesn't require you to equip a pole...I don't think they changed it other than that |
| 18:11.43 | Torhal|work | Comments no longer making sense, etc |
| 18:12.02 | Krapsy | i pressed the button twice yesterday, seemed just as annoying |
| 18:12.05 | kd3 | comments on wowhead make sense? |
| 18:12.22 | Torhal|work | kd3: I mean, even less so when the context completely changes :P |
| 18:12.26 | kd3 | lol |
| 18:13.13 | durcyn | the 5.0 glyph fuckery is a prime example |
| 18:13.19 | Torhal|work | Yah |
| 18:13.36 | durcyn | btw what's the new fishing ID, i'm lazy |
| 18:13.51 | Torhal|work | durcyn: 131476 |
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| 18:14.13 | Primer | WORLD_MAP_UPDATE fires a LOT |
| 18:14.18 | durcyn | 7620's just completely gone? |
| 18:14.19 | Torhal|work | It was 7620 forever. |
| 18:14.21 | Torhal|work | Yah |
| 18:14.26 | Torhal|work | GetSpellInfo returns nil |
| 18:14.53 | End_ | guess they nuked it from the DBC |
| 18:14.58 | End_ | actually |
| 18:15.04 | End_ | they did that for metamorphasis too |
| 18:15.43 | End_ | first bt4 beta that nev posted didn't work on my warlock and I was like what |
| 18:16.22 | Vladinator | PLAYER_SPECIALIZATION_CHANGED should be UNIT_ shouldn't it? |
| 18:16.46 | durcyn | unrelated, don't suppose anyone in here has a contact at wowhead |
| 18:17.34 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:18.51 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 18:19.24 | Xinhuan | so Vladinator, still working out a IsMounted bug? |
| 18:19.41 | Primer | not sure that was ever a bug |
| 18:19.48 | Xinhuan | couldn't you just schedule an OnUpdate() after the event, and only check the mounted status in the OnUpdate? |
| 18:20.02 | Xinhuan | that way even if you have multiple events firing, you only check once |
| 18:20.07 | Primer | I recall having problems with that a long time ago, which lead me to putting mount/swim/fly detection into an onupdate |
| 18:20.14 | durcyn | kd3: it's apparently a community channel, no one there can do anything about their broken CDN |
| 18:20.21 | Xinhuan | and obviously you would unhscedule the OnUpdate after checking |
| 18:20.48 | Xinhuan | (although continuously checking isn't a big deal either, its only 1 function call) |
| 18:20.53 | Vladinator | so far I have no problems using the api on unit_aura event so it's okay, but indeed it was a bug before that made me also use onupdate :P |
| 18:22.00 | Vladinator | local t = {}; t[1] = 1; db[i] = t; wipe(t) t[2] = 2; db[i+1] = t; |
| 18:22.14 | Vladinator | will db contain two tables that are the same table reference? :P |
| 18:22.20 | Adys | SWEET |
| 18:22.29 | Adys | GetLogicalProcessorInformation finally implemented in wine |
| 18:22.32 | Adys | one less patch to worry about |
| 18:22.34 | kd3 | ! |
| 18:22.47 | Semlar | primer: WORLD_MAP_UPDATE will fire every time an addon tries to change the map to gather information about it, depending on the addon it could be doing it nonstop |
| 18:23.12 | Vladinator | (yes it will be same table, nvm) |
| 18:25.54 | kd3 | ugh, the whole second-of-lag thing when changing zones needs to stop |
| 18:26.55 | Vladinator | what is quicker; "#temp > 0" or "next(temp)" |
| 18:27.03 | Primer | Semlar: this is the event I suspect is hanging my client |
| 18:27.25 | Semlar | are you running a map addon? |
| 18:28.52 | Semlar | or do you already know what's causing it |
| 18:29.13 | alestane | Vladinator, are you asking that question often enough that the difference matters? Like, thousands of times a second? |
| 18:29.26 | Vladinator | curious in general :P |
| 18:29.32 | cbreak | Vladinator: # is O(n) worst case |
| 18:29.34 | Vladinator | wonder if it keeps a count or if it iterates it all |
| 18:29.58 | Vladinator | if I got a million entries in the table, will next or getn be quicker? I assume # and getn are the same performance wise :P |
| 18:30.15 | Vladinator | (quicker = to see if its empty or not) |
| 18:30.33 | cbreak | or just check t[1] == nil |
| 18:31.03 | alestane | Also, #t will only tell you if a table is empty when used as an array. |
| 18:31.12 | Semlar | if you know the index you could just do if not t[i] then break or whatever |
| 18:31.23 | nevcairiel | the secure handlers code is confuzzling me |
| 18:31.35 | nevcairiel | why the hell do you not call my OnAttributeChanged script wrapper |
| 18:31.37 | cbreak | the index is 1 |
| 18:31.39 | nevcairiel | curses |
| 18:31.50 | alestane | If a table is a record or lookup or other non-sequential structure, only next() will tell you anything useful. |
| 18:31.53 | cbreak | no other matters when checking wether the array style table is empty or not |
| 18:32.09 | cbreak | and since you considered #, it is an array style table |
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| 18:33.12 | Torhal|work | I'm pretty sure getn was deprecated or outright removed in Lua 5.1 |
| 18:33.35 | F16Gaming | does anyone here have experience using Transifex (www.transifex.com) for localization? |
| 18:33.55 | Esamynn|work | Torhal|work: even if it's present, it does the same thing as # without a hack |
| 18:34.00 | Vladinator | quickie: what event should I monitor to detect when pet is spawned/swapped? |
| 18:34.24 | Semlar | primer: my minimap addon was causing that event OnUpdate and still wasn't hanging the client, so i suspect it's from something reacting to that event that's actually the problem |
| 18:34.25 | Vladinator | CHAT_MSG_PET_INFO ? |
| 18:34.25 | Torhal|work | Esamynn|work: Yah, I just thought it was removed in favor of # is all |
| 18:34.33 | Esamynn|work | pretty much |
| 18:34.44 | Primer | Semlar: how did you resolve it? |
| 18:34.53 | Semlar | i just started caching the zone information |
| 18:34.54 | Primer | Semlar: I'd love to get a trace, but... |
| 18:34.55 | durcyn | Vladinator: PET_BAR_UPDATE/PET_BAR_HIDE |
| 18:34.59 | Vladinator | ah, ok. |
| 18:35.30 | Sintacks | http://puu.sh/120Ua |
| 18:35.34 | Sintacks | that's an interesting error |
| 18:35.59 | End_ | hah |
| 18:36.29 | Sintacks | only happens during spine though |
| 18:36.41 | Primer | Semlar: I have a waypoint system whereby I display waypoints based on zones. Waypoints are configurable to only show within certain zones or continents, etc. |
| 18:36.52 | durcyn | InCombatLockdown script execution timeout is 20ms now, Sintacks |
| 18:37.09 | Semlar | primer: how many points is it looking at |
| 18:37.15 | Primer | Semlar: So I need to handle the event. Just not sure how my addon is generating the event |
| 18:37.29 | Primer | Semlar: very few |
| 18:37.36 | Semlar | oh anything that sets the map |
| 18:37.41 | Semlar | like SetMapToCurrentZone |
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| 18:37.50 | Semlar | causes the event' |
| 18:38.44 | End_ | I am bad about remembering names apparently |
| 18:38.56 | End_ | only just now noticed that Semlar is the mushroom avatar |
| 18:39.07 | Semlar | >_> |
| 18:39.51 | End_ | I was looking at some posts I made a few weeks ago because that's what google told me and I suddenly noticed the name was familiar |
| 18:40.03 | Humbedooh | rtharper, happy...sweday! |
| 18:40.05 | End_ | when we were talking about C_PetJournal |
| 18:40.11 | Semlar | oh boy |
| 18:40.13 | rtharper | tack, Humbedooh! |
| 18:40.39 | Humbedooh | rtharper, does jnwhiteh speak teh swedish yet? |
| 18:40.44 | rtharper | sometimes |
| 18:40.47 | Humbedooh | haha |
| 18:40.48 | rtharper | he's very shy about it |
| 18:40.53 | Humbedooh | aaw |
| 18:41.09 | Humbedooh | I shall have to interrogate him in Skånsk sometime |
| 18:41.12 | Primer | Semlar: I don't call SetMapToCurrentZone |
| 18:41.31 | Unkle | "speak teh swedish" sounds like code for getting into a speakeasy. |
| 18:41.32 | Semlar | can i see the code? |
| 18:42.00 | Humbedooh | jøøøbulskøøø de umbediskedoo, jøbul de høbul de hø bork bork bork! |
| 18:42.21 | Humbedooh | hym de skøhn, de hym de born de chocolate mousse! |
| 18:42.36 | alestane | Pretty sure the actual language is Svensk? |
| 18:42.45 | Humbedooh | we skøhn de høn de chocolate, hmhmhm, yum yum yumme de chocolate |
| 18:43.01 | Unkle | mock-swedish is spoken only by muppets. |
| 18:43.07 | Humbedooh | swødish |
| 18:43.08 | alestane | It's entirely possible, however, that the Swedish Chef speaks Skånsk. |
| 18:43.16 | Humbedooh | no :( |
| 18:43.26 | Humbedooh | swedish chef in skånsk would be...bad |
| 18:43.29 | Semlar | primer: check for SetMapZoom, ZoomOut and SetMapByID |
| 18:44.34 | alestane | Ah, it's a real regional dialect of Svenska. |
| 18:44.54 | Humbedooh | Östdanmark! |
| 18:45.01 | Humbedooh | :D |
| 18:45.10 | Primer | Semlar: I am still using Astrolabe...which I've also suspected of introducing the problem |
| 18:45.18 | mckenziemc | question mark |
| 18:45.18 | End_ | I think someone brought meatloaf to work for lunch |
| 18:45.21 | End_ | drools. |
| 18:45.34 | Primer | I should probable just rework my code to wean myself off the old crappy Astrolabe |
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| 18:45.46 | mikma | rtharper: how's the life in ... you know ;) |
| 18:45.52 | Torhal|work | Primer: ? |
| 18:46.04 | Unkle | prepare for Esamynn|work to melt your face in 5, 4, 3, 2, ... |
| 18:46.05 | Humbedooh | mikma, you can say it...be brave! |
| 18:46.07 | rtharper | jättebra, tack, mikma =) |
| 18:46.08 | Torhal|work | Primer: If you're using old Astrolabe, that is definitely an issue. |
| 18:46.23 | Semlar | yeah, possibly an older version of astrolabe could do it |
| 18:46.24 | Torhal|work | Primer: Use the new version |
| 18:46.29 | Primer | say what? |
| 18:46.35 | Primer | I thought he wasn't going to maintain it |
| 18:46.41 | Semlar | he's definitely working on it |
| 18:46.42 | Torhal|work | Esamynn|work: ^ |
| 18:46.43 | End_ | haha |
| 18:46.54 | Humbedooh | rtharper, so, moved from one furnished flat to another then? |
| 18:46.59 | Humbedooh | or will you raid the local ikea? |
| 18:47.03 | rtharper | Humbedooh: yeah |
| 18:47.06 | Primer | I mean, I noticed the repo was dead a few months ago |
| 18:47.07 | rtharper | no, no ikea raiding yet |
| 18:47.08 | mikma | rtharper: so are you guys working at thursday or what? |
| 18:47.16 | Primer | then when I looked into it, the repo had been dead for about a year |
| 18:47.17 | rtharper | mikma: we can make some time to say hi =) |
| 18:47.31 | mikma | rtharper: that would be so so sweet |
| 18:47.35 | Esamynn|work | Primer: it's true, I was gone for a while and my websites were offline, this I apologize for |
| 18:47.35 | Torhal|work | Primer: The CF repo was dead because it was no longer synchronizing. |
| 18:47.40 | Esamynn|work | but everything is back online and updated |
| 18:47.55 | Primer | lovely! |
| 18:48.03 | Primer | but I wonder if my issue will still exist... |
| 18:48.04 | mikma | rtharper: you need to give your address to us so we can surpruse buttsecks... err, visit you |
| 18:48.09 | rtharper | hahahahah |
| 18:48.13 | Esamynn|work | Primer: feel free to email me about issues |
| 18:48.14 | Torhal|work | Primer: Only way to find out is to update. |
| 18:48.16 | rtharper | we'll email it |
| 18:48.21 | Humbedooh | mikma, don't make promises you can't keep |
| 18:48.35 | Semlar | what astrolabe functions do you call on world_map_update |
| 18:48.43 | Semlar | primer |
| 18:48.48 | mikma | rtharper: the ferry (Silja Line) will let us exit the ship after 9.30 at thursday |
| 18:48.51 | Primer | Esamynn|work: the issue I'm having (presumably) is that SetMap* from Astrolabe is causing infinite recursion in my addon as I'm handling WORLD_MAP_UPDATE |
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| 18:49.10 | Primer | Semlar: AddIcon* |
| 18:49.11 | Esamynn|work | oh, yes, that was reported a long time ago and should be fixed |
| 18:49.12 | mikma | rtharper: after that it's just strolling around in stockholm until the ship leaves, 17.00~ |
| 18:49.18 | Primer | lovely! |
| 18:49.22 | Esamynn|work | or... |
| 18:49.33 | Esamynn|work | this was in specific locations, correct? |
| 18:49.35 | kd3 | is there a macro conditional for the override interface |
| 18:49.43 | kd3 | [vehicleui] doesn't seem to be valid for it |
| 18:49.50 | Primer | Esamynn|work: indeed, when zoning into very specific instances |
| 18:50.15 | Torhal|work | Primer: That would explain why I couldn't pinpoint it - I never looked at Astrolabe (and I'm assuming you're using a very outdated version) |
| 18:50.23 | Esamynn|work | yah, it was related to the character not being present on the the zoom set by SetMapToCurrentZone() |
| 18:50.35 | Primer | Torhal|work: yes, very old in fact |
| 18:50.38 | Semlar | called it! |
| 18:50.59 | Esamynn|work | Astrolabe, internally, was setting the map zoom back to that zoom, even though it should have left the map at the zoom where it found a player location |
| 18:51.01 | Primer | and once his repo stopped working, and the packager started failing when I'd update my addon, I added it to my addon |
| 18:51.14 | Torhal|work | Primer: And if you're using anything else that has Astrolabe, they probably have a newer version which is why you couldn't reproduce. |
| 18:51.17 | Vladinator | do I have to tooltip scan to get info of what weapon enchant I have active? |
| 18:51.45 | Esamynn|work | it was a nasty regression I introduced at one point, sorry about that |
| 18:52.04 | Semlar | GetWeaponEnchantInfo? |
| 18:52.18 | Primer | Torhal|work: afaik, the other libs I have have no deps |
| 18:52.34 | Torhal|work | Primer: I meant another AddOn you're running. |
| 18:52.41 | Vladinator | GetWeaponEnchantInfo only returns 1nil laaame :P |
| 18:52.44 | Torhal|work | You said some users were having the issue while you were not. |
| 18:52.48 | Primer | Torhal|work: ahh right |
| 18:53.04 | Semlar | valdinator: do the weapon buffs show up as auras or only on the weapons |
| 18:53.06 | Primer | no, I said that reproducing the problem was very hit and miss |
| 18:53.12 | Torhal|work | Aah |
| 18:53.17 | Primer | I was able to reproduce the problem while leveling a new toon quite often |
| 18:53.42 | Semlar | i know my addon handles poisons because they happen to be buffs |
| 18:54.05 | Esamynn|work | Primer: what addon? (out of curiosity) |
| 18:54.13 | Primer | FlightHUD |
| 18:54.26 | Vladinator | Semlar: not showing as buffs/auras |
| 18:54.38 | Vladinator | poisons are buffs now but not shaman enchants :P |
| 18:55.10 | Semlar | you could maybe track the application of the enchant |
| 18:55.54 | Semlar | it wouldn't work if they were already on there though |
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| 18:56.43 | the-golem | Yeah, pretty sure my addon hates me. |
| 18:57.05 | Vladinator | damn you blizz, at least you could add some more return values on your GetWeaponEnchantInfo :P |
| 18:58.51 | the-golem | this fsking addon! grr |
| 19:03.17 | nilyaK | fisking addon? |
| 19:03.20 | nilyaK | :P |
| 19:03.26 | the-golem | lol |
| 19:03.32 | mckenziemc | ~fiskerslap nilyaK |
| 19:03.32 | purl | ACTION slaps nilyaK around a bit with Fisker. |
| 19:03.48 | mikma | rtharper: well, try to think a place and a time where we could meet, drink some coffee etc |
| 19:04.08 | mikma | rtharper: we'll be leaving early tomorrow so kinda need to know the place and time soon ;) |
| 19:04.16 | the-golem | I have a XP/Rep addon that toggles between Rep and XP OnRightClick, but I can't seem to get the state to save between loadscreens |
| 19:04.41 | the-golem | i can't figure out what the flop i'm doing wrong |
| 19:05.08 | Semlar | sounds like the game's undoing your change |
| 19:06.22 | Semlar | you could reapply it on player_entering_world or something |
| 19:07.43 | Semlar | or figure out why it's being undone |
| 19:07.58 | nevcairiel | If someone still has some ties to the Blizzard UI developers, you wouldn't happen to be able to bring some attention to this thread, would you? :D http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6490559996 |
| 19:08.16 | the-golem | i think i'm *not* properly saving the state of the rightclick |
| 19:11.54 | foxlit | nevcairiel: is that *all* the interesting functions, though? |
| 19:12.13 | Mr_Rabies | man |
| 19:12.26 | Mr_Rabies | seeing the fishing bug reappear sucks |
| 19:12.28 | foxlit | I think he could stand to add a few related to ExtraActionButtons :) |
| 19:12.33 | Mr_Rabies | i keep getting fish bites right at the end of the cast |
| 19:12.34 | the-golem | *SIGH* |
| 19:12.38 | Primer | What is the fishing bug? |
| 19:12.47 | Mr_Rabies | like, RIGHT at the end |
| 19:12.50 | Semlar | the-golem: are you modifying a cvar or something, i don't know what you're doing |
| 19:13.09 | Mr_Rabies | they had it set so that bites would happen way sooner than the end after some point in wotlk |
| 19:13.13 | Mr_Rabies | but it's broken again |
| 19:13.14 | foxlit | [I suppose another problem is that it's also difficult to get notified that those values changed in the restricted environment.] |
| 19:14.21 | Fisker | why is my puzzle piece sad nevcairiel ? |
| 19:15.37 | nevcairiel | foxlit: thats all the interesting functions for action bars =P |
| 19:16.01 | foxlit | nevcairiel: how do you handle the extra action button? |
| 19:16.15 | nevcairiel | foxlit: for notification there are macro conditions, and we have for most of those one, excep for the tempshapeshiftbar |
| 19:16.31 | Primer | Anyone here a scribe? I tried doing minor research and all I got was a scroll. I thought minor research always yielded learnable glyphs when there's something to learn |
| 19:16.32 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: sweden |
| 19:16.46 | Fisker | can i have your body jnwhiteh ? |
| 19:16.49 | nevcairiel | foxlit: there is a [extraactionbar] condition, but i just let the game hide its own button and dont bother with it more |
| 19:16.52 | jnwhiteh | noty |
| 19:17.24 | foxlit | nevcairiel: I think FrameXML, as written, is open to the idea that there might be more than action button, but I think that's difficult to figure out from the restricted environment |
| 19:17.52 | foxlit | obviously, if you don't implement EAB at all, you don't have a problem, but otherwise, having access to the same data would be nice. |
| 19:18.08 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 19:19.06 | nevcairiel | but right now there are fights which a custom action bar just cant switch to the right bar, and its annoying, getting the functions tuller listed there will solve that problem (and avoid some funny hacks i implemented to get around all the missing functions) |
| 19:19.17 | nevcairiel | All i personally really need is a condition to know if the temp shapeshift bar is active |
| 19:19.24 | nevcairiel | the extra functions are a bonus |
| 19:19.31 | nevcairiel | would help clean up the code |
| 19:19.33 | durcyn | hm, which fights specifically? |
| 19:19.40 | nevcairiel | end boss in drak'tharon |
| 19:19.56 | the-golem | Semlar: I use a special frame to handle the rightclick. I have a function that checks whether that frame is "checked" or not to toggle the XP/Rep bar states. It works fine, except for that (I think) I don't save the checked status of the frame to anything. |
| 19:20.07 | nevcairiel | for some reason they re-visited that old boss and gave change its api behaviour =P |
| 19:20.11 | foxlit | I imagine everything is solvable by wrapping enough scripts. |
| 19:20.17 | nevcairiel | not this one |
| 19:20.29 | the-golem | Sorry if that's confusing, I haven't touched this addon in a long while and I'm pretty much tripping over myself. |
| 19:20.30 | nevcairiel | you cant wrap scripts of frames that are not explicitly protected |
| 19:20.34 | nevcairiel | or so i figured out today |
| 19:21.10 | kd3 | heh, z-fighting. haven't seen that in a while |
| 19:21.20 | nevcairiel | I figured, why not just hitch a free ride on the OnAttributeChanged of blizzards frames |
| 19:21.30 | nevcairiel | but screw them or not making their frames protected |
| 19:21.35 | nevcairiel | s/or/for/ |
| 19:21.46 | Semlar | the-golem: just set a variable to true or false based on its state, or a saved variable for across sessions |
| 19:22.01 | jnwhiteh | mikma: we can probably give you a time but we don't know enough to know where we should meet |
| 19:22.09 | jnwhiteh | when do you think you'll be getting in, again? |
| 19:22.13 | nevcairiel | anyway, finally time for some food |
| 19:22.26 | the-golem | -.- |
| 19:22.34 | mikma | jnwhiteh: they let us out of the ship at 9.30 and we need to be back before 17.00 |
| 19:22.45 | jnwhiteh | oh okay |
| 19:23.07 | Humbedooh | mikma, you make it sound like a school outing |
| 19:23.16 | Humbedooh | or an insane asylum |
| 19:23.21 | mikma | humbedooh: basicly, it is. welcome to the ferrylines |
| 19:23.24 | jnwhiteh | mikma: Why don't we plan to meet up somewhere for lunch? |
| 19:23.39 | jnwhiteh | is that something you can schedule with the baby |
| 19:23.54 | jnwhiteh | or should we do something like coffee which won't matter as much? |
| 19:24.07 | the-golem | Semlar: Yes, thank you, I know that's what I should be doing; I've effectively said as much. |
| 19:24.24 | mikma | jnwhiteh: lunch might be a good idea cause they let us eat breakfast at the ship but that's it, need to find place to eat somewhere |
| 19:24.50 | Semlar | sorry, i must not be understanding what you're trying to do because this seems very simple |
| 19:25.04 | jnwhiteh | mikma: when would you normally eat? |
| 19:25.26 | mikma | jnwhiteh: don't have a time for that, when we get hungry :D |
| 19:25.49 | jnwhiteh | okay.. so you want a time from us but you can't give us a time =) |
| 19:25.57 | Humbedooh | finns |
| 19:26.18 | mikma | jnwhiteh: basicly, we're ok with whatever |
| 19:26.25 | mikma | jnwhiteh: "we are easy!" |
| 19:27.01 | jnwhiteh | as are we, we'll be working most of the day (if we're not viewing flats) but it would be really nice to meet up |
| 19:27.15 | Primer | yay, I can cast VT on Darkmoon Island now |
| 19:28.21 | mikma | jnwhiteh: 14.00 |
| 19:28.31 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 19:28.35 | mikma | jnwhiteh: let's googlefu some dinners in stockholm |
| 19:28.38 | jnwhiteh | mikma: if you want to do 2, that's too late for lunch for us |
| 19:28.39 | Fisker | one day i'll travel to sweden |
| 19:28.44 | jnwhiteh | psh |
| 19:28.47 | jnwhiteh | switch to the other channel |
| 19:30.49 | Primer | Shouldn't projects on wowace automatically be on curseforge as well? |
| 19:33.01 | zenzelezz | hah... "Jokes about German sausages are the wurst" |
| 19:33.17 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 19:33.23 | Krapsy | so |
| 19:33.47 | the-golem | Semlar: Simple for you, perhaps. As I've said, I haven't done done this in quite a while. |
| 19:34.02 | Krapsy | would be possible to have an addon that lets you irc ingame? |
| 19:34.51 | Esamynn|work | Primer: they are, they just... kinda pretend they're seperate |
| 19:34.57 | Esamynn|work | as far as I can tell |
| 19:35.29 | Esamynn|work | for example: http://www.wowace.com/addons/astrolabe/ works |
| 19:35.32 | Primer | I did a search and didn't find it |
| 19:35.37 | Primer | let me try a direct URL |
| 19:35.41 | Semlar | krapsy: no |
| 19:35.57 | jnwhiteh | Esamynn|work: did you get my email? |
| 19:36.17 | Krapsy | Semlar: why not |
| 19:36.19 | Esamynn|work | if you do the search, then change the dropdown that controls site criteria, you can search both |
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| 19:36.26 | Esamynn|work | jnwhiteh: yes, that's on my list to respond to today |
| 19:36.30 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 19:36.36 | Primer | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/libarrow-1-0/ |
| 19:36.47 | Primer | interesting...he attributes that to you, jnwhiteh |
| 19:36.53 | Semlar | krapsy: because the game only loads the files once, to make a chat program you would need access to new data in realtime |
| 19:37.01 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 19:37.02 | Primer | it deps on Astrolabe |
| 19:37.03 | jnwhiteh | that needs to be taken down |
| 19:37.13 | Primer | which is how I found it just now |
| 19:37.14 | jnwhiteh | or |
| 19:37.18 | jnwhiteh | at least not fucking list the ARR license |
| 19:37.26 | jnwhiteh | hrm. |
| 19:37.37 | Primer | only reason I mention it is because I wrote DirectionArrow |
| 19:37.56 | Primer | because my previous addon, FriendlyArrow, just hijacked the TomTom arrow |
| 19:38.18 | Krapsy | Semlar: is that the kind of thing that warden watches for? |
| 19:38.34 | Primer | but DirectionArrow just uses the default minimap icon and some trig and has no deps other than Ace and friends |
| 19:38.36 | jnwhiteh | i have no fucking clue how he licensed this. |
| 19:38.40 | jnwhiteh | i dont care. |
| 19:38.51 | Esamynn|work | Krapsy: if you're talking about trying to get data in/out of the UI in real time, just forget about it |
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| 19:38.57 | Esamynn|work | it's explicity blocked |
| 19:39.20 | Esamynn|work | jnwhiteh: no kidding, that's just strange |
| 19:39.25 | Vladinator | btw for weapon temp enchants, need to tooltip scan and look for "ITEM_ENCHANT_TIME_LEFT_" |
| 19:39.30 | Semlar | krapsy: warden watches for a list of specific processes or anything trying to modify memory in the game's space |
| 19:39.42 | Vladinator | for example ITEM_ENCHANT_TIME_LEFT_SEC -then extract the data, kind of a lot of coding for a simple task :P |
| 19:40.01 | Primer | Well, if I search for my addon and select "all sites", it provides me the wowace link |
| 19:40.11 | Semlar | krapsy: it is possible to make a program that bridges the gap between irc and the game but it would definitely be against the terms of service and would not be an addon |
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| 19:40.38 | Primer | Is there some sort of process involved with getting one's addon, whose current project site is wowace, onto curseforge? |
| 19:40.47 | Primer | err, I thought I was in #wowace |
| 19:40.51 | Primer | guess I should ask there |
| 19:40.52 | Krapsy | alright |
| 19:41.34 | End_ | Primer: bug Torhal|work |
| 19:41.46 | Primer | I think I've bugged him a lot already :) |
| 19:41.46 | End_ | (is always my answer) |
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| 19:42.33 | Torhal|work | jnwhiteh: What needs taken down? |
| 19:42.34 | Torhal|work | Primer: ? |
| 19:42.40 | jnwhiteh | i'm not 100% sure it does |
| 19:42.43 | jnwhiteh | i'm frustrated |
| 19:42.46 | jnwhiteh | because id ont know what he took and when |
| 19:42.47 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 19:42.58 | jnwhiteh | i'm looking into it |
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| 19:43.08 | Torhal|work | Looks like an old version of TomTom and Astrolabe both. |
| 19:43.38 | Torhal|work | Err, the arrow from TomTom. |
| 19:43.41 | Torhal|work | Jesus, WTF |
| 19:43.46 | Primer | Torhal|work: was just wondering why my wowace project wasn't automagically on curseforge |
| 19:43.46 | Torhal|work | stabs Alar. |
| 19:44.06 | Torhal|work | Primer: Because WoWAce isn't CurseForge. Two different "communities", not that CF actually has one. |
| 19:44.08 | Primer | I just figured they were effectively the same site |
| 19:44.14 | Torhal|work | They are, on the backend. |
| 19:44.22 | Semlar | curseforge lets you search both sites.. |
| 19:44.25 | Torhal|work | Same as skyrimforge.com, dev.bukkit.org, etc |
| 19:44.34 | jnwhiteh | yeah it looks like he faked that license |
| 19:44.40 | Torhal|work | jnwhiteh: o.O |
| 19:44.47 | jnwhiteh | trying to confirm tho |
| 19:44.48 | Esamynn|work | Torhal|work: I dunno, I might go hunting down the reviewer that approved those files :P |
| 19:45.17 | Torhal|work | Esamynn|work: I already know who did it. |
| 19:45.22 | Torhal|work | Ze logs tell awl. |
| 19:45.26 | End_ | was it ackis |
| 19:45.30 | Torhal|work | Newp/ |
| 19:45.32 | End_ | aww |
| 19:45.37 | End_ | I want to blame ackis for everything |
| 19:45.51 | jnwhiteh | Torhal|work: in 2010 I didn't have a license that allowed that |
| 19:45.53 | Esamynn|work | witchhunt! |
| 19:45.54 | jnwhiteh | and still don't. |
| 19:46.00 | jnwhiteh | not sure what to do |
| 19:46.04 | jnwhiteh | i suppose i should look at the code |
| 19:46.12 | Torhal|work | jnwhiteh: I could ask the guy who approved it to handle it. |
| 19:46.12 | kd3 | the correct answer is always blame ackis |
| 19:46.49 | jnwhiteh | fucking alar. |
| 19:46.55 | jnwhiteh | oh that asshole |
| 19:47.00 | jnwhiteh | went back to 2006-2007 |
| 19:47.04 | jnwhiteh | to steal a version that had the license. |
| 19:47.07 | Torhal|work | :/ |
| 19:47.18 | jnwhiteh | its a tiny function, fuck him |
| 19:47.18 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 19:47.29 | jnwhiteh | i guess i'm not bothered |
| 19:47.31 | Torhal|work | I swear to hell this has happened before. This exact conversation. Weird. |
| 19:47.34 | jnwhiteh | its not tiny, but its not novel. |
| 19:47.34 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 19:47.35 | jnwhiteh | me too |
| 19:47.37 | jnwhiteh | deja vu |
| 19:47.41 | jnwhiteh | maybe it actually has |
| 19:47.43 | Torhal|work | lol |
| 19:47.50 | kd3 | quick, to the logs! |
| 19:47.56 | End_ | quick, blame ackis! |
| 19:48.12 | Arrowmaster | looks for bill murray |
| 19:48.55 | Semlar | do people still use coordinates for things |
| 19:49.01 | Torhal|work | ... |
| 19:49.04 | Torhal|work | Yes? |
| 19:49.08 | Esamynn|work | ^ |
| 19:49.12 | kd3 | yes! |
| 19:51.53 | foxlit | Hm, there's an achievement that involves killing Azmodan without standing in his black pools of whatever. |
| 19:52.00 | foxlit | But he sometimes spawns them right under you. wtf? |
| 19:52.14 | Esamynn|work | foxlit: it's pure luck |
| 19:52.19 | Esamynn|work | at least, that was my conclusion |
| 19:52.20 | kd3 | the RNG goes 'no cheev for you' |
| 19:52.32 | Esamynn|work | I just run around randomly when I'm doing it on a lower difficulty |
| 19:52.33 | Esamynn|work | I eventually got it |
| 19:52.49 | foxlit | doesn't it require Inf/Hell? |
| 19:53.05 | Esamynn|work | Hell counts as a cakewalk for me ;) |
| 19:53.12 | Vladinator | does IsMounted work properly on unit_aura if you use flight form? gotta test that :P |
| 19:53.29 | foxlit | hm, yes. I was thinking that if it was lower, you could probably kill him before he gets to that phase |
| 19:53.59 | Esamynn|work | also, I can keep killing him during that phase with my hydras |
| 19:54.19 | the-golem | Woo! |
| 19:54.22 | the-golem | I figured it out |
| 19:54.57 | foxlit | think if you say around the outer edge of the arena, you can stay in ranged range |
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| 20:55.09 | Ackis | Torhal|work, jnwhiteh: the guy who approved that project is a real asshole |
| 20:55.17 | Ackis | and fuck you End_ and kd3 :P |
| 20:55.24 | kd3 | lol |
| 20:55.28 | Torhal|work | Ackis: I'll be sure to tell him you said that. |
| 20:55.42 | mckenziemc | ~smackis |
| 20:55.43 | purl | ACTION smacks Ackis. |
| 20:55.56 | Ackis | ~mckenziemc |
| 20:55.56 | purl | Any code touched by mckenziemc is tainted. |
| 20:56.14 | Ackis | ~ackis |
| 20:56.14 | purl | hmm... ackis is A person who can code, but just doesn't know how to type. Master of Torhal and Pompy. |
| 20:56.16 | Humbedooh | s/code/thing/ |
| 20:56.24 | Ackis | I like that because it pings two people at once |
| 20:56.28 | Humbedooh | :D |
| 20:58.05 | mckenziemc | taints Humbedooh |
| 20:58.11 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: have you ever gotten a C&D letter for TomTom at all? About the arrow thing? |
| 20:58.25 | Humbedooh | mckenziemc, kinky |
| 20:59.05 | Jammer | Ackis: what's wrong with that? :p |
| 20:59.28 | Torhal|work | Ackis: Huh? |
| 20:59.40 | Ackis | Jammer: Huh? |
| 20:59.44 | Torhal|work | The arrow. |
| 20:59.49 | Torhal|work | WTF are you blithering about? |
| 21:00.12 | Jammer | Ackis: why would he get C&D for the arrow |
| 21:00.29 | Ackis | I remember reading an article about how video games aren't allowed to use guidance arrows like that because (iirc) sega patented it, I was just curious |
| 21:00.37 | Torhal|work | ... |
| 21:00.53 | mckenziemc | ~smackis |
| 21:00.54 | purl | ACTION smacks Ackis. |
| 21:01.13 | Torhal|work | No wonder... |
| 21:01.21 | Ackis | I'm actually serious :( |
| 21:01.23 | Torhal|work | bets Ackis reads Misogynist Today. |
| 21:01.37 | Ackis | what's a misgynocist? |
| 21:01.58 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: i recall seeing a guidance arrow like tomtoms in many other games |
| 21:02.48 | Torhal|work | Ackis: a person who hates, dislikes, mistrusts, or mistreats women. |
| 21:03.08 | Ackis | I don't hate/dislike/mistrust women |
| 21:03.33 | mckenziemc | and don't understand boolean logic? |
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| 21:04.09 | Torhal|work | Ackis: "This computer belongs in the kitchen." |
| 21:04.10 | Torhal|work | Etc |
| 21:04.21 | Torhal|work | The last one was "or mistreats" :) |
| 21:04.31 | Ackis | why did you think I didn't include that one in my statement? |
| 21:04.35 | Torhal|work | Ahahahaha |
| 21:04.58 | Ackis | if anyone is wondering, I put the description of my wifes computer as "This computer belongs in the kitchen." |
| 21:05.38 | mckenziemc | Ackis belongs in his mom's basement |
| 21:06.07 | Torhal|work | Basically I was saying if you believe there's a patent on a direction arrow in games because you read it, then the fictional "Misogynist Today" would explain your overall behavior :) |
| 21:06.26 | End_ | Ackis: <3 |
| 21:06.41 | Ackis | Torhal|work: http://www.patentarcade.com/2010/07/case-analysis-sega-v-fox.html |
| 21:07.04 | Semlar | sega holds a patent on the concept of using a floating arrow to direct a player? |
| 21:07.59 | Ackis | got any smart ass remarks now Torhal|work? |
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| 21:09.13 | Torhal|work | Ackis: Yes. Believing that that's enforceable is LOLWUT? |
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| 21:10.21 | nevcairiel | If you actually read the page you linked, and read the patent there, you would come to the same conclusion as the author |
| 21:10.30 | nevcairiel | the patent is just invalid |
| 21:10.35 | nevcairiel | USPO had a fine day again |
| 21:11.09 | nevcairiel | USPTO* |
| 21:11.38 | Ackis | there was no court ruling, so no precedent was set |
| 21:12.07 | Torhal|work | The precedent would be "You're a moron. Pay attorney fees." |
| 21:12.59 | mckenziemc | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postal_Service |
| 21:13.11 | mckenziemc | who can spot the vandalism >.> |
| 21:13.42 | Torhal|work | mckenziemc: It IS garbage. |
| 21:13.46 | Torhal|work | Shirik: ^ |
| 21:13.48 | Torhal|work | lulz |
| 21:14.19 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 21:14.22 | nevcairiel | nicely hidden |
| 21:15.03 | nevcairiel | its just a few hours old |
| 21:15.06 | nevcairiel | the vandalism |
| 21:15.43 | Torhal|work | peers curiously at mckenziemc. |
| 21:15.49 | mckenziemc | not i |
| 21:19.30 | g0urra | what vandalism? I don't see any vandalism |
| 21:21.58 | Torhal|work | Nice revert |
| 21:23.00 | Vladinator | why does zork use self:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_LOGIN", FuncRef, BoolVal) ? |
| 21:23.09 | Vladinator | I thought it only has one argument |
| 21:23.15 | Vladinator | ( http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44155 ) |
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| 21:27.51 | Arrowmaster | Vladinator: its not calling the standard RegisterEvent but probably AceAddons |
| 21:30.58 | kd3|hate`net | wow; http://i.imgur.com/kwNqQ.jpg |
| 21:31.13 | Torhal|work | Yar. |
| 21:31.16 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 21:33.11 | Ackis | I think it's so you can correct your mistake |
| 21:33.36 | Esamynn|work | ~smackis |
| 21:33.36 | purl | ACTION smacks Ackis. |
| 21:34.15 | Ackis | :( |
| 21:34.48 | mckenziemc | gelds Ackis |
| 21:35.13 | Ackis | no I must reproduce! there needs to be mini-Acki running around |
| 21:42.54 | F16Gaming | woot :D https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/Command/ |
| 21:46.26 | starlon | aww can't xmog a legendary? :( |
| 21:48.33 | Guest23989 | Is anyone aware of a change to the SecureActionButtonTemplate that would stop :SetAttribute("action", 4) from having any affect? Currently this is being ignored in some test code I am working with, and I can't for the life of me figure out why. |
| 21:49.21 | foxlit | there were no changes to the secureactionbuttontemplate. |
| 21:49.35 | Guest23989 | thats what I thought |
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| 21:55.04 | DefectiveUser | so any ideas on why it's ignoring SetAttribute("action", 4)? The test case has a basic button with some attached styling script, inheriting SecureActionButtonTemplate, and :SetAttribute("type", "action"). I've used this before and it's always worked, not seeing anything in the logs, or any warnings/errors in game. |
| 21:55.33 | DefectiveUser | something I've missed? |
| 21:55.56 | Unkle | Are you using this to replace vehicle or override bar buttons? |
| 21:58.51 | DefectiveUser | actually it's part of a larger addon I've been writing as time permits, replacing the action bars completely. I've had this working before when I experimented with and wrote the basic button handeling, just trying to get comfortable with the state driver, and was writing this to simply test things out. |
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| 21:59.39 | DefectiveUser | this is something that *should* work, as it's reflected in other code that does work, or at least has worked for me before |
| 22:01.14 | Esamynn|work | DefectiveUser: have you checked that the attribute is actually being set to the value you expect? |
| 22:02.38 | DefectiveUser | Esamynn|work: Yes, I did a GetAttribute for it and it returns 4 |
| 22:03.38 | DefectiveUser | Esamynn|work: but if I click the button its using action button 1 |
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| 22:04.47 | DefectiveUser | Esamynn|work: and if I drag something into it, the spell appears in action button 1 also |
| 22:07.54 | Esamynn|work | DefectiveUser: the way I read it, the type attribute needs to be a value present in SECURE_ACTIONS, not the string "action" |
| 22:08.23 | Esamynn|work | oh, nvm, missed the entry for "action" |
| 22:09.54 | DefectiveUser | Esamynn|work: yup, to clarify, I have SetAttribute("type", "action"); SetAttribute("action", 4); |
| 22:10.26 | Esamynn|work | ahh |
| 22:10.34 | Esamynn|work | does your button have an ID property set? |
| 22:10.42 | DefectiveUser | Esamynn|work: if you only set SetAttribute("type", "action") then it seems to default to action button 1, which is why I feel that SetAttribute("action", 4) is being ignored. |
| 22:11.09 | Esamynn|work | ie. :GetID() |
| 22:11.13 | DefectiveUser | Esamynn|work: bingo, I should have spotted that |
| 22:11.36 | DefectiveUser | Esamynn|work: Yes, I had set an ID on the button, thats why it kept defaulting on me |
| 22:11.53 | DefectiveUser | Esamynn|work: Teaches me for setting up test code at 4 in the morning :) Thanks! |
| 22:12.30 | Esamynn|work | you can thank me by NOT pinging me every time you continue the only active conversation in the channel :) |
| 22:12.43 | DefectiveUser | sure, um, sorry :) |
| 22:13.08 | Cairenn | I can bring up another conversion if you want .... Esamynn |
| 22:13.20 | DefectiveUser | I forget this pings when doing that, I run it on a linux box next to me, no sound :) |
| 22:13.35 | Esamynn|work | ~poke Cairenn |
| 22:13.36 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Cairenn, pokes Cairenn repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 22:13.41 | Cairenn | Esamynn 2 |
| 22:15.08 | Vladinator | UIDropDownMenu_ClearAll crashed my game when I opened the map :D |
| 22:15.52 | Esamynn|work | DefectiveUser: no worries, just an IRC etiquette detail |
| 22:16.29 | Sintacks | I want to sell some epic shits on D3 so I can pay for my Mists CE :| |
| 22:17.24 | Esamynn|work | ~laugh Sintacks |
| 22:17.24 | purl | ACTION laughs hysterically at Sintacks...ow! laughing so hard, it can't breathe... gasp...gasp...gasp.... ..... ... |
| 22:17.38 | Esamynn|work | ~botsnack |
| 22:17.38 | purl | :), Esamynn|work |
| 22:17.57 | DefectiveUser | ya, I appreciate the pull up on that one :) |
| 22:18.19 | Sintacks | purl's Esamynn|Away |
| 22:18.27 | Sintacks | Esamynn|Away's Esamynn|work |
| 22:18.29 | Sintacks | ! |
| 22:18.51 | Esamynn|work | O_o |
| 22:20.51 | Ackis | interesting: http://i.imgur.com/G5aPl.jpg (look at the skill ups I gained) |
| 22:20.58 | Ackis | just by crossing zones |
| 22:21.38 | Sintacks | and people say my UI is bad |
| 22:21.59 | Torhal|work | Ackis: old |
| 22:22.11 | kd3 | yah, I bitched about that before my crash earlier |
| 22:22.48 | kd3 | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/2e64c1394aa6b871c0f001608221d737.jpg |
| 22:22.52 | Esamynn|work | Silithus... what do you want to bet that has something to do with the new "merged zones" tech? |
| 22:22.59 | kd3 | it does |
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| 22:23.14 | nebula169 | does GameTooltip:GetItem() no longer work to get the item from GameTooltip:SetLFGCompletionReward(i)? ;[ |
| 22:23.31 | nebula169 | i just get an empty return |
| 22:23.32 | Sintacks | 's head exploded |
| 22:24.13 | Esamynn|work | Cairenn: I thought you were gonna start screening people for this explosive tendency before letting them in here... |
| 22:24.47 | Cairenn | naw, the blood spatters make interesting designs on the walls |
| 22:25.06 | Esamynn|work | is that what those are... |
| 22:25.12 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 22:25.47 | Cairenn | and since it's just linoleum on the floor, it's easy to mop up the rest of the mess |
| 22:26.01 | Kraps | what do you need the huge boxes for??? |
| 22:26.11 | Kraps | @ackis |
| 22:26.44 | Torhal|work | Kraps: More area to re-read his trolling. |
| 22:27.05 | Ackis | Kraps: huh? |
| 22:27.19 | Ackis | and Cairenn can I have ops for 30 seconds? no, 15 seconds? it's all I'd need |
| 22:27.30 | Kraps | http://i.imgur.com/G5aPl.jpg ^ |
| 22:27.37 | Cairenn | heh, no :p |
| 22:27.46 | Ackis | Kraps: to read chat and whatnot |
| 22:27.48 | Ackis | Cairenn: :( |
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| 22:30.30 | Torhal|work | Ackis: Damn, dude. |
| 22:30.37 | Torhal|work | You did a hell of a lot with that 15 seconds. |
| 22:30.44 | Cairenn | hehehehe |
| 22:30.59 | Ackis | damnit |
| 22:31.02 | Torhal|work | lol |
| 22:31.06 | Ackis | I was tabbed out! |
| 22:31.10 | Ackis | asdfaksjdf;lasdjfasd;lkj |
| 22:31.16 | Cairenn | giggles |
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| 22:31.30 | Kraps | woe |
| 22:31.34 | Kraps | wow |
| 22:31.41 | Kraps | wot |
| 22:31.57 | Ackis | I even had /kick Torhal|work in my copy/paste buffer :( |
| 22:31.57 | Unkle | Alas, poor Ackis. Had Ops for seconds and wasted it. |
| 22:32.24 | Torhal|work | :D |
| 22:32.43 | Cairenn | I actually even gave him a whole extra second |
| 22:33.03 | Jamash | Qvod cito acqviritvr cito perit |
| 22:33.56 | Sintacks | http://puu.sh/125gk |
| 22:33.57 | Sintacks | black bars |
| 22:33.58 | Cairenn | Jamash: indeed |
| 22:34.00 | Sintacks | black bars everywhere |
| 22:34.24 | znf | what |
| 22:34.24 | znf | the |
| 22:34.27 | znf | hell is that? |
| 22:34.36 | Esamynn|work | Ackis: seems 15 seconds wasn't enough after all :P |
| 22:34.37 | Jamash | ^ |
| 22:34.40 | Sintacks | lolol |
| 22:34.46 | Vladinator | I don't like that layout P |
| 22:34.51 | Ackis | Esamynn|work: :( |
| 22:34.53 | Vladinator | feels like too much space is wasted :( |
| 22:34.56 | znf | whoever uses such a layout should be shot |
| 22:35.04 | znf | if they get up, they should be shot again |
| 22:35.12 | Sintacks | puts on a bullet proof vest |
| 22:36.08 | Vladinator | I wish we had more awesome SetPoint API |
| 22:36.12 | Jamash | shoots Sintacks in the ankle |
| 22:36.20 | Sintacks | you should see my SUF |
| 22:36.22 | Vladinator | what if you like to place a frame on the bottom left, but 8 px padding from the edge and your frame? |
| 22:36.24 | Sintacks | http://puu.sh/125iX |
| 22:36.35 | Sintacks | walks away laughing |
| 22:36.36 | Stanzilla | dafuq |
| 22:36.57 | Vladinator | SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT") then SetPadding("LEFT", "BOTTOM", 8) or something (to add padding on the left and bottom) |
| 22:37.39 | znf | Sintacks, you shouldn't touch UI addons |
| 22:37.39 | Jamash | eh, SUF is always going to look like ass in config mode |
| 22:37.50 | Jamash | you're never going to see all that stuff on at once |
| 22:37.51 | znf | that's, like, the most horrible shit ever |
| 22:38.15 | znf | You should get an award for worst UI of the year |
| 22:38.16 | foxlit | Vladinator: go read the SetPoint API docs or something. |
| 22:38.17 | Sintacks | i know, Jamash. lol. |
| 22:38.41 | Jamash | I'm telling Stanzilla and znf |
| 22:38.42 | Vladinator | I know SetPoint, but wish there was a set padding |
| 22:38.51 | Sintacks | 15 frames are never going to be seen in a raid. 6 are rarely shown in a raid. another 4 are rarely shown in a raid. |
| 22:38.51 | Jamash | Vladinator: So you want CSS for wow? |
| 22:38.53 | znf | I know how suf looks like in Config |
| 22:38.53 | Vladinator | to add spacing, so other frames attaching to yours would mind the padding ;P |
| 22:38.56 | Esamynn|work | dear lord Sintacks... |
| 22:38.58 | Vladinator | gief css! |
| 22:39.07 | znf | but that doesn't make his UI better |
| 22:39.08 | znf | it's horrible :D |
| 22:39.13 | Vladinator | that's actually a good idea, Jamash:D |
| 22:39.23 | End_ | the gaps on the sides are the only thing that real bug me |
| 22:39.23 | foxlit | Vladinator: I don't think you do. |
| 22:39.30 | Vladinator | :/ |
| 22:39.34 | End_ | really* |
| 22:39.46 | znf | the viewport is what bugs me the most |
| 22:39.53 | znf | and the chat conig |
| 22:39.54 | znf | config |
| 22:40.08 | znf | all that wasted space... dear god |
| 22:40.18 | Torhal|work | YARRRRRRR |
| 22:40.23 | Esamynn|work | Vladinator: there IS a way to add padding to your frame :P |
| 22:40.24 | End_ | are you a pirate |
| 22:40.34 | znf | wait, 5 tank frames?! |
| 22:40.34 | Jamash | Vladinator: if you anchor a frame to a bare region you can get that effect |
| 22:40.41 | Jamash | I think |
| 22:40.44 | Jamash | don't quote me on that |
| 22:40.55 | Sintacks | znf, lol. it's very very rare. |
| 22:41.03 | Jamash | five horsemen? |
| 22:41.09 | Sintacks | only time i remember is heroic halfus |
| 22:41.14 | Sintacks | when it was hard |
| 22:41.36 | Vladinator | why don't addons use the layout file blizzard has to save frame positions? |
| 22:41.36 | Jamash | high king maulgar I guess? |
| 22:41.36 | znf | Oh wait, that's apparently default in SUF now |
| 22:41.47 | Jamash | Vladinator: Because it's a piece of crap |
| 22:41.48 | Vladinator | it would make it easier to manually edit it and perfectly align everything for UI packages and such :) |
| 22:42.00 | End_ | Vladinator: if the addon isn't installed, the file forgets the positioning |
| 22:42.00 | Esamynn|work | Vladinator: because whenever your addon doesn't load, the positions get wipped |
| 22:42.09 | Jamash | also it doesn't work |
| 22:42.09 | Vladinator | that sucks |
| 22:42.11 | Jamash | half the time |
| 22:42.18 | znf | nevermind, I remember suf having only 2 tank frames in config mode, guess that changed or I remember wrong |
| 22:42.22 | Vladinator | because, if I want to programically set a position each addon can handle their position saving in different ways :( |
| 22:42.23 | Esamynn|work | no, it works just fine Jamash :P |
| 22:42.35 | Jamash | Esamynn|Away: through changes in UI scale / resolution? |
| 22:42.43 | znf | Vladinator, that's a bad idea |
| 22:42.52 | znf | different frames have different looks / sizes |
| 22:42.58 | Jamash | I recall terrible, terrible damage occuring to my UI way back when |
| 22:43.07 | Esamynn|work | ahhh, well now you're looking for something more complicated than what it was meant for |
| 22:43.12 | Jamash | exactly! |
| 22:43.20 | Ressy | Does MMOIU Minion not have any registry keys at all? |
| 22:43.22 | Jamash | brb feeding doggies |
| 22:43.35 | znf | is the minion still working? o.o |
| 22:43.40 | Esamynn|work | yes |
| 22:43.43 | Jamash | people use minion? |
| 22:43.46 | Ressy | I uh.. Just uninstalled it manuall. >.> |
| 22:43.50 | Vladinator | znf: is it a bad idea to programically set positions, or store in a layout file? :P |
| 22:43.50 | End_ | most addons won't react that well to changes to screen resolution/scale |
| 22:43.57 | Vladinator | not saying the layout file as it currently is oc. |
| 22:43.59 | Vladinator | ofc* |
| 22:44.06 | znf | Vladinator, store in that layout file |
| 22:44.11 | End_ | although well behaved ones would use the closest corner for its points I suppose |
| 22:44.33 | Vladinator | atm it seems it can't handle relative positions, all frames are anchored to UIParent or something :/ |
| 22:45.02 | Sintacks | This is pretty much what it actually looks like in combat, on my rogue at least: http://puu.sh/125s3 |
| 22:45.09 | Vladinator | :( |
| 22:45.17 | znf | removes eyes from eyesockets |
| 22:45.18 | Vladinator | you don't need buffs with bars, takes too much space! |
| 22:45.32 | Sintacks | there's nothing to put there anyway |
| 22:45.43 | Esamynn|work | Sintacks: I thought my raiding screen was relatively busy |
| 22:45.51 | Esamynn|work | apparently I was utterly wrong |
| 22:45.53 | Sintacks | and I'd rather have a bar, with the name, than i have to try to remember icons |
| 22:45.56 | znf | HOW ABOUT EMPTY SpACE?!?!?! |
| 22:46.01 | Torhal|work | Ressy: Minion dies beyond Java 6 |
| 22:46.04 | Sintacks | empty space is boring |
| 22:46.20 | Torhal|work | Vladinator: Here you go: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libwindow-1-1/ |
| 22:46.23 | Esamynn|work | znf: I know right.... there is so much empty space at the edges :( |
| 22:46.25 | Sintacks | You should see my UI when I used to use ebb for target debuffs |
| 22:46.28 | Ressy | Still on 6 here. |
| 22:46.31 | znf | why are you using DBM Sintacks?!?!!! |
| 22:46.44 | Ressy | I actually uninstalled it, because it was only bringing up updates that curse already had. |
| 22:46.48 | Vladinator | that is a good lib tbh |
| 22:46.49 | Sintacks | because dbm has a couple timers/announces that i prefer over bigwigs. |
| 22:46.54 | Esamynn|work | ~whaleslap znf |
| 22:46.54 | purl | ACTION beats znf upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 22:46.55 | Sintacks | but the main reason is dbm spell timers |
| 22:46.56 | Vladinator | something to help positions across resolutions |
| 22:47.03 | znf | dbm spell timers...? |
| 22:47.16 | kd3 | has dbm ever apologized for putting goldseller ads up (not via an ad network)? |
| 22:47.34 | znf | Sintacks, your UI makes me cringe :( |
| 22:47.41 | znf | especially considering you're sitting here in #wowuidev |
| 22:47.51 | End_ | look |
| 22:47.53 | Sintacks | http://puu.sh/125vY spell timers. for CDs and other shit. |
| 22:47.59 | End_ | maybe he is a wiz at making the ui do stuff |
| 22:48.20 | End_ | he just doesn't understand aesthetics ;-p |
| 22:48.27 | Vladinator | my latest raid screen I found was http://vlacula.no-ip.com/wow/scr/sorted/2011-12/WoWScrnShot_122311_153629.jpg -now I'd remove boss frame on the side, move the auras on quartz/remove :P |
| 22:48.31 | znf | and WHY SO MANY FONT TYPES? o.o |
| 22:48.42 | Sintacks | wat |
| 22:48.57 | Vladinator | where font types? |
| 22:49.09 | Sintacks | Vladinator, you have bars behind your extraactionbutton |
| 22:49.10 | znf | I count at least 5 different font-faces in Sintacks's UI |
| 22:49.20 | Sintacks | and you also use dbm spell timers |
| 22:49.21 | Vladinator | that's quartz auras |
| 22:49.34 | Vladinator | I run without them atm :P |
| 22:49.38 | Vladinator | because of that issue |
| 22:49.40 | Sintacks | well, move them or move your button =p |
| 22:49.43 | Vladinator | ye |
| 22:49.48 | Vladinator | picture taken 12 2011 |
| 22:49.50 | Vladinator | :P |
| 22:49.55 | Vladinator | my UI is tweaked since then |
| 22:50.07 | Vladinator | was also testing the raid UI (legacy one) |
| 22:50.14 | Sintacks | heh... this screenshot is old ... |
| 22:50.15 | Sintacks | http://puu.sh/W8FZ |
| 22:50.16 | Vladinator | the old raid frames and group pulling out on screen still exists ^^ |
| 22:50.19 | Sintacks | and my UI is mostly the same |
| 22:50.45 | Vladinator | I use dbm bars for timers on the side, just good to know sometimes. |
| 22:50.56 | Sintacks | Best UI ever: http://puu.sh/V3I5 |
| 22:50.57 | Vladinator | maybe player cd is not required tough :p |
| 22:51.02 | znf | And I thought mine is bad: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/120650/WoWScrnShot_090412_013633.jpg |
| 22:51.03 | znf | :( |
| 22:51.23 | Sintacks | why do you need to see 21 peoples' damage done |
| 22:51.36 | Ackis | Stanzilla: are you disc? |
| 22:51.46 | znf | I don't really need to see 21 people's damage |
| 22:51.48 | Vladinator | my UI http://i33.tinypic.com/2jb9jk0.jpg |
| 22:51.51 | Sintacks | and your artwork around the edges, having frames over them makes me twitch |
| 22:52.01 | znf | there's no artwork around edges |
| 22:52.03 | znf | it's a bug in WIM |
| 22:52.03 | znf | :D |
| 22:52.12 | Sintacks | oh |
| 22:52.15 | Sintacks | okay good |
| 22:52.17 | znf | I usually use Skada for something other than seeing damage |
| 22:52.17 | znf | :P |
| 22:52.31 | znf | and I don't like scrolling shitloads to see death logs and other stuff :) |
| 22:52.40 | Sintacks | your aligment with msbt annoys me. =p |
| 22:52.51 | znf | my alignment is pixel-perfect |
| 22:52.52 | Sintacks | right alined, but icons on left |
| 22:53.02 | Sintacks | meaning icons are rarealy alined |
| 22:53.31 | Sintacks | what's the blank bar under the Not specificed --- Boss bar on target? |
| 22:53.33 | znf | well, there's icons on the far left and icons on the far right :P |
| 22:53.38 | Vladinator | quick LFR question => is GREEN always priority? |
| 22:53.43 | Vladinator | (green ooze on Yorsahj) |
| 22:53.45 | Ressy | Looks like nobody uses the blizzard raid frames.. o.O |
| 22:53.53 | Sintacks | Vladinator, not really. |
| 22:53.59 | Vladinator | shh don't say the answer yet |
| 22:54.03 | znf | Sintacks, shows race, usually |
| 22:54.05 | Vladinator | need to see what the rest say |
| 22:54.05 | Sintacks | purple > blue > yellow imo |
| 22:54.11 | znf | or unit type |
| 22:54.13 | znf | like Mechanical |
| 22:54.29 | Sintacks | cuz LFR doesn't know how to deal with purple. and blue sucks. and yellow makes green and red hurt a little more |
| 22:54.34 | Sintacks | but green and red are pretty much a joke |
| 22:54.48 | Sintacks | green does hurt more than red, unless you're retarded though |
| 22:54.51 | Sintacks | but pugs are retarded |
| 22:54.55 | Vladinator | yellow means more dmg on tanks, so depends on your healers/tanks if you go blue>yellow or not |
| 22:55.02 | znf | btw, anyone else noticing an issue with SUF's mana display not updating? |
| 22:55.10 | Sintacks | no |
| 22:55.14 | Vladinator | but it's funny when I lead and say what to kill (and green is up) the normal/heroic guys rush green as if it makes it easier :D |
| 22:55.33 | Sintacks | this is the only issue i can come up with suf right now: http://puu.sh/125Fh |
| 22:55.34 | Vladinator | while in reality killing green just makes the encounter harder on LFR ;D |
| 22:55.38 | Sintacks | percentages don't stay alined |
| 22:55.41 | Jamash | I use the blizzard raid frames |
| 22:55.43 | Sintacks | and makes me sadface |
| 22:55.47 | Jamash | but I don't raid :P |
| 22:55.52 | Vladinator | I'd use the blizzard frames |
| 22:55.58 | Vladinator | IF they allow me to make the frame size square |
| 22:56.01 | Vladinator | like on my screenshot... |
| 22:56.02 | Sintacks | Be a pro: ignore the oozes in LFR |
| 22:56.11 | znf | yeah, I never bother with oozes in LFR :D |
| 22:56.13 | Vladinator | otherwise they are too large and don't align right to my other UI elements :P |
| 22:56.22 | Ressy | ah |
| 22:56.31 | Sintacks | i wish grid had a test mode |
| 22:56.33 | Ressy | My UI: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9038867/WoW/WoWScrnShot_113011_211256.jpg |
| 22:56.41 | Vladinator | :( |
| 22:56.41 | znf | Grid2 has :P |
| 22:56.46 | Vladinator | an idea |
| 22:56.47 | Ressy | Blizzard raid frames pop up on the bottom between my chat & other stuff |
| 22:56.56 | Vladinator | you can taint the crap out of the game |
| 22:57.02 | znf | Look ,no mana update: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z__27LrFhIo |
| 22:57.04 | Vladinator | and override a lot of API :P |
| 22:57.04 | Sintacks | http://puu.sh/125Hh |
| 22:57.06 | Sintacks | zomg indicators |
| 22:57.08 | Vladinator | just to get the "test" effect |
| 22:57.13 | Vladinator | and disable it when done ;D |
| 22:57.31 | znf | I mean, I get no mana update on Player and Target |
| 22:57.39 | znf | but I get it on target of target :D |
| 22:58.12 | Vladinator | why isn't your tooltip anchoring to the button frames? :3 |
| 22:58.21 | Stanzilla | Ackis: sometimes |
| 22:58.24 | znf | who? |
| 22:58.41 | znf | mine? |
| 22:59.03 | znf | I don't usually click, so I prefer to have it on mouse-over |
| 22:59.14 | Stanzilla | what is it with you guys and the super fucked up uis? |
| 22:59.23 | znf | Stanzilla, what? mine's not fucked up :( |
| 22:59.26 | Ackis | Stanzilla: any recommendations on the glyphs to use? I personally hate tehm all |
| 22:59.36 | Ackis | and my UI isn't fucked up |
| 22:59.49 | Stanzilla | Ackis: I use penance, shield and focus |
| 22:59.50 | znf | mine isn't, either, it's just "rich" :P |
| 23:00.05 | Ackis | Stanzilla: why shield? |
| 23:00.23 | Stanzilla | Ackis: because it heals |
| 23:00.59 | Ackis | Stanzilla: but it takes away 20% of your shielf |
| 23:01.01 | Ackis | *shield |
| 23:01.11 | Stanzilla | doesnt matter, I still get 300k shields on people |
| 23:01.13 | znf | Also, did anyone notice TidyPlates failing a bit? |
| 23:01.23 | Ackis | eg you shield protects for 100k, with glyph it heals for 20k, shields for 80k |
| 23:01.25 | Kraps | errr |
| 23:01.34 | znf | when I get near new units, I see the blizzard nameplates for, like, half a second |
| 23:01.37 | znf | then tidyplates takes over |
| 23:03.21 | Kraps | what does it mean when google send me an email recovery email in Portuguese for an address i do not know anything about |
| 23:03.26 | Jamash | real priests heal with solace |
| 23:03.27 | Ackis | Stanzilla: I'm currently using reflective shield, mass dispel and purify /shrug |
| 23:03.47 | Stanzilla | Ackis: I love penance |
| 23:04.05 | znf | I love... |
| 23:04.07 | znf | *sigh* |
| 23:04.09 | Ackis | I don't move and penance really |
| 23:04.10 | znf | I miss my old shadow spec :( |
| 23:04.19 | Jamash | speaking of which, does solace work with smite glyphs? |
| 23:04.24 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 23:04.33 | Stanzilla | well |
| 23:04.33 | Jamash | rad |
| 23:04.35 | Stanzilla | new smite glpyh |
| 23:04.37 | Stanzilla | or old? |
| 23:04.50 | Jamash | I don't understand the question |
| 23:05.07 | Stanzilla | new smite glyph is 20% more dmg on targets afflicted with holy fire |
| 23:05.16 | Stanzilla | nothing more |
| 23:05.17 | Ackis | oh btw Stanzilla do you still have a spell called "dispel magic" along with purify? (dispel magic has the old abolish disease icon) |
| 23:05.32 | Jamash | I do, it's the offensive dispel |
| 23:05.40 | Stanzilla | Ackis: I dont |
| 23:05.43 | znf | Oh, that's the offensive one? o.o |
| 23:05.44 | Jamash | purify is the defensive dispel |
| 23:05.47 | znf | I didn't know, lol :D |
| 23:05.51 | znf | I hate that mechanic :( |
| 23:05.57 | znf | I want to use one spell for everything! |
| 23:06.01 | Stanzilla | oh I do |
| 23:06.04 | Stanzilla | just found it |
| 23:06.14 | Ackis | Jamash: the wording for both just says "target" |
| 23:06.15 | Esamynn|work | znf: meh, just macro it |
| 23:06.22 | znf | I know, but it's not fun :( |
| 23:06.47 | Jamash | Ackis: nyet |
| 23:07.05 | Jamash | Dispel Magic says "enemy target" |
| 23:07.41 | Ackis | ahhhhhhh |
| 23:07.42 | znf | So, how do you guys like SSAO? |
| 23:08.02 | Jamash | I don't notice it |
| 23:08.13 | znf | I do |
| 23:08.16 | znf | turn Shadows off |
| 23:08.22 | znf | and SSAO will be more visible :P |
| 23:08.41 | Ackis | SSAO? |
| 23:08.43 | Jamash | or I could turn shadows on and ignore SSAO |
| 23:08.50 | foxlit | ah, so that's where my framerate went |
| 23:08.53 | znf | Ackis, the new video setting? |
| 23:08.58 | znf | I don't notice any change |
| 23:09.00 | znf | in FPS |
| 23:09.09 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/QwkSp.jpg |
| 23:09.12 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/sfVNm.png |
| 23:09.18 | znf | See the small shadowy edge of my char? |
| 23:09.22 | Jamash | I get 6 FPS from turning SSAO off |
| 23:09.40 | foxlit | I get 35. |
| 23:10.03 | znf | I get 1... |
| 23:10.04 | foxlit | jumps from 49 to 85 |
| 23:10.54 | znf | let me fraps it :D |
| 23:12.02 | znf | Lovely... 20 seconds = 1GB |
| 23:12.02 | znf | ... |
| 23:12.29 | kd3 | eek. x crashed |
| 23:12.42 | znf | and recently youtube's CDN network fails on me and I can only upload like 10KB/s |
| 23:12.42 | foxlit | i guess it might be marginally more expensive at 2560x1600 with 8x multisampling :( |
| 23:13.24 | znf | I play at 1800x900 |
| 23:14.14 | Jamash | ok, standing around in TB looking at stuff I can see a clear difference |
| 23:14.21 | Jamash | but not enough to justify the framerate loss |
| 23:15.15 | Ackis | foxlit: my max fps is 35 :( |
| 23:15.55 | znf | Sorry, the file you selected is too large. You can upload a maximum of 500.00MB |
| 23:15.57 | znf | BLAARGH |
| 23:15.59 | znf | Fail Vimeo |
| 23:16.29 | foxlit | znf: transcode it to something reasonable first? |
| 23:16.32 | znf | Seriously, what's a video uploading site that doesn't move like shit, has HD and not a retarded upload limit? |
| 23:16.35 | znf | foxlit, cba :-/ |
| 23:16.58 | Jamash | handbrake brah |
| 23:18.18 | foxlit | Hrm, I wonder why I keep functionality that I don't use myself in OPie. It makes for all sorts of headaches :( |
| 23:19.05 | znf | bah |
| 23:19.09 | znf | ffmpeg crashes when I try encoding |
| 23:19.10 | znf | *sigh* |
| 23:19.12 | foxlit | For instance, if the slice you've previously selected as a ring's quick action goes away (e.g. you run out of potions or something), but there other quick action-allowed slices remain in the ring, what do you expect to happen with the quick action? |
| 23:19.33 | znf | dear fraps, why so shitty video codec? :( |
| 23:20.08 | foxlit | presumably because fraps was written at the time when realtime video encoding at game resolutions was infeasible. |
| 23:20.09 | kd3 | pick one at random. I choose you, Potion of Deepholm |
| 23:20.28 | foxlit | kd3: the other option is to pick nothing until you select another quick action. |
| 23:20.46 | foxlit | but you can't go wrong with Potion of Deepholm, I suppose. |
| 23:24.23 | starlon | should be able to xmog a legendary :( That's the whole reason I farmed this thing. |
| 23:24.52 | starlon | is sad. |
| 23:25.25 | starlon | Oh but we want legendaries to be unique. |
| 23:25.52 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:26.16 | foxlit | The things you learn from reading CS thesis abstracts! |
| 23:27.23 | Vladinator | did blizz make cross realm realid zones work for this patch or not yet? |
| 23:28.14 | znf | yay DXTory |
| 23:28.15 | znf | ... |
| 23:28.21 | znf | start recording? wow crashes |
| 23:28.25 | kd3 | dunno about realid, but crossrealm zones are in |
| 23:30.21 | Vladinator | zul drak is empty lol, me alone on amphitheater :( |
| 23:32.34 | sylvanaar | please kill me - i hate my job |
| 23:32.39 | sylvanaar | >< |
| 23:32.54 | sylvanaar | i know QQ |
| 23:33.32 | znf | kills sylvanaar |
| 23:33.36 | znf | here, go update WIM instead |
| 23:33.38 | znf | and fix those black bars |
| 23:34.36 | sylvanaar | you know the wim frame sets all points to UIParent, so idk, how it can be a different size |
| 23:35.25 | Torhal | sylvanaar: I thought you were looking for a new job. |
| 23:35.34 | sylvanaar | I was. then I had to have surgery |
| 23:35.38 | Torhal | :/ |
| 23:35.53 | Cairenn | hugs sylvanaar gently |
| 23:36.24 | sylvanaar | so, I stopped looking and decided to stay where I am. but they are fucking abusive. i hate it |
| 23:36.35 | Cairenn | :( |
| 23:36.39 | znf | sylvanaar, set your resolution to mine |
| 23:36.43 | znf | and see when and how it happens |
| 23:37.03 | sylvanaar | znf: i had a bad day, and have been drinking... can you make a ticket |
| 23:37.15 | znf | I will if you want me to :) |
| 23:37.20 | sylvanaar | thanks! |
| 23:38.28 | sylvanaar | i plan on doing some addon work, and some work on my Lua IDE in the next few days. |
| 23:38.47 | znf | the hell is wrong with DXTory |
| 23:38.55 | znf | every time I start recording, wow crashes |
| 23:40.01 | Torhal | znf: It feeds on your hatred. |
| 23:42.26 | *** join/#wowuidev harlicant (harl@dslb-088-077-115-196.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 23:47.38 | znf | yeah, this is retarded |
| 23:47.44 | znf | I can record on the login screen with DXTory |
| 23:47.58 | znf | as soon as I start recording in-game, it seems to crash |
| 23:57.59 | Ackis | is archaeology becoming more fun in MoP? |
| 23:58.15 | Semlar | almost as fun as it is in real life |
| 23:58.43 | durcyn | it's supposed to be less shitty, but you're still talking about a nonzero amount of shittiness |
