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| 00:02.52 | Amarande | hrm |
| 00:02.59 | Amarande | is it time to bid farewell to Bazooka? |
| 00:03.08 | Amarande | my bazooka bars now are hideous green/black/green striped |
| 00:03.31 | Stanzilla | how about updating |
| 00:04.06 | Ressy | get the alpha version |
| 00:04.19 | Ressy | release version gives green/black/green |
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| 00:06.11 | Amarande | Stan: any chance of that occurring anytime soon via Curse Client, or shall I expect to spend the first couple of days slogging through wowi/curse manually to obtain everything I need? |
| 00:06.29 | Amarande | (which, of course, takes three times as long as it needs to because all such sites want to make sure you have to visit multiple pages to download one thing for ad revenue's sake :P) |
| 00:06.42 | Jamash | Amarande: read harder |
| 00:07.07 | Amarande | according to curse client, I have the newest version of everything |
| 00:07.34 | Stanzilla | Amarande: v2.1.5 should work fine |
| 00:08.10 | Amarande | here's another oddity |
| 00:08.17 | Amarande | my item level seems to have dropped massively since the patch |
| 00:08.17 | mckenziemc | Jamash: Amarande can't read, he can only type |
| 00:08.35 | Jamash | as far as I can tell, doing a search and replace of UIPanelButtonTemplate2 to UIPanelButtonTemplate fixes auctionator |
| 00:08.36 | Amarande | even though the only thing that's changed has been the weapons (and so, it should actually have increased, as I can get rid of the i312 staff and only use the i378 wand) |
| 00:08.50 | Ressy | awesome. ty Jamash :) |
| 00:09.02 | Torhal | Amarande: [18:57:07] <@Kaelten> Ok guys, issues with the client not updating should be fixed |
| 00:09.05 | Torhal | ... |
| 00:09.06 | Torhal | :P |
| 00:09.19 | Amarande | Torhal: the point is that I'm still seeing everything showing as "up to date" |
| 00:09.27 | Torhal | Exit client. Re-start/ |
| 00:09.29 | Stanzilla | press refresh |
| 00:09.40 | Amarande | ah, there we go |
| 00:10.03 | Amarande | ah, there's the ilvl thing. apparently you need an offhand to go with a wand |
| 00:10.04 | mckenziemc | facepalms. |
| 00:11.02 | Torhal | facepalms mckenziemc. |
| 00:11.19 | mckenziemc | facepalms Torhal into Fisker's bed. |
| 00:11.29 | Torhal | Nuh-uh. |
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| 00:25.29 | Ressy | Nice. WIM's working again. Latest alpha is perfect. |
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| 00:30.22 | kd3 | hm. need a buff bar |
| 00:32.31 | Amarande | Grid is no good yet? |
| 00:33.46 | Ressy | Set grid to beta. |
| 00:33.54 | Ressy | and it'll pop up with 5.0.4 compatible version |
| 00:38.02 | TC-Work | someone please give me a proper education |
| 00:38.05 | TC-Work | and a slap |
| 00:38.28 | TC-Work | I hate not knowing the simple stuff |
| 00:38.55 | Amarande | hah |
| 00:39.02 | Amarande | stonecore heroic is listed as 85-87 and all the others as just 85 |
| 00:39.06 | Amarande | is stonecore that evil? :) |
| 00:41.10 | Jammer | lol |
| 00:43.02 | arton | hehe |
| 00:44.59 | Dagmar | ooo! I'm 1% omgoptimized! |
| 00:46.38 | TC-Work | is there a sql option that will create if the field doesnt exist and update if it does? |
| 00:47.14 | Amarande | "FB_Broker has been blocked from an action only available to the Blizzard UI. You can disable this addon and reload the UI." |
| 00:47.18 | Amarande | when trying to assign a glyph. |
| 00:47.28 | Amarande | did something new get pulled under the Protected umbrella in 5.0? |
| 00:47.48 | Ressy | I got that with Broker_CPU |
| 00:47.53 | kd3 | it's a taint chain |
| 00:47.53 | kd3 | whee |
| 00:47.59 | Dagmar | TC-Work: From what I know the general approach is to try to make it and see what happens |
| 00:48.26 | Amarande | yeah, apparently Fishing Buddy is DITW for 5.0 |
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| 00:48.51 | Dagmar | TC-Work: If it fails then you go for update/alter |
| 00:48.57 | Amarande | ... for that matter, why the hell does fishing buddy prevent glyph assignment? |
| 00:49.05 | Amarande | ... and for *that* matter, why is glyph assignment protected? |
| 00:49.13 | Amarande | I don't think you can even change glyphs in combat, no? |
| 00:49.26 | kd3 | something somewhere got tainted and blizz code tried to call it |
| 00:49.33 | TC-Work | well, interestingly out of 3 fields the same command only worked on one |
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| 00:54.23 | Kraps | yo dudes do any of you know if blizzard supplied mirrors for the optimization thingy like they did with SC2? |
| 00:54.40 | Amarande | ouch, almost all the glyphs I have on hand on my mage suck now |
| 00:55.01 | Adys | http://i.imgur.com/LjvFC.jpg |
| 00:55.04 | Adys | I love my country ^ |
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| 00:55.32 | Adys | "The Victim of the Farringdon Mice" |
| 00:55.36 | Adys | tonight on sherlock. |
| 00:56.20 | Mr_Rabies | lol, already |
| 00:56.21 | Mr_Rabies | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6413133816 |
| 00:57.35 | Kraps | has to be a troll |
| 00:58.19 | Dagmar | It's a cry for help. |
| 00:58.27 | Dagmar | He's saying "Daddy doesn't beat me like he should." |
| 00:58.43 | Kraps | "It's a smack in the face to old players (the talent system)" |
| 00:58.53 | Kraps | OH COME ON I WOULD SAY THAT |
| 00:58.55 | amro | anyone here know opengl? |
| 00:58.58 | Amarande | hm. can wands be enchanted with the regular caster weapon enchants now or do we have to wait for MoP? (enchants all seem to still say "enchant a melee weapon" sadly) |
| 00:58.59 | Dagmar | I almost want to post "If this expansion results in even 1% less of you whiny bitches playing, it was money well spent." |
| 01:00.21 | mckenziemc | i'm not familiar with the new pet system -- is it intended that i have multiple copies of some pets? |
| 01:00.38 | Dagmar | "The tears ......they are delicious." <-- why can I not upvote this?! |
| 01:00.46 | Jammer | mckenziemc: yes |
| 01:01.07 | mckenziemc | heh, i saw the Create New Character button and thought one of my characters had somehow gotten deleted |
| 01:02.13 | Dagmar | This thread has so many easy victims. |
| 01:02.27 | Ressy | Can you not start pet stuff til next month? |
| 01:02.39 | kd3 | 9/25 |
| 01:02.53 | Ressy | figures. thx :) |
| 01:03.32 | Mr_Rabies | is wowmatrix still shady as heck |
| 01:03.38 | Mr_Rabies | someone in trade chat is talking about it |
| 01:04.06 | Dagmar | I don't recall them suddenly becoming paragons |
| 01:04.07 | kd3 | geez unkle, how many toons do you have? |
| 01:04.08 | Amarande | *shrug*. there's a lot of wow sites out there of repute that, while it may not now be really black, are definitely some shade of grey |
| 01:04.11 | Mr_Rabies | <mckenziemc> i'm not familiar with the new pet system -- is it intended that i have multiple copies of some pets? |
| 01:04.26 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, once MoP hits you can cage them up and resell those that aren't BoP |
| 01:04.28 | Amarande | (even some otherwise fairly good WoW sites for instance do not vet their ads very well and thus end up with gold seller ads ... Tarou's guides is an example there) |
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| 01:04.59 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, i run adblock globally for that reason |
| 01:05.19 | Dagmar | Why would you wind up with multiples in the first place tho? |
| 01:05.27 | Mr_Rabies | multiple chars with it |
| 01:05.40 | Dagmar | Oh so minipets are common across all toons now? |
| 01:05.58 | Dagmar | Some people with mismatched almost-complete sets are probably fapping to the screen right now |
| 01:06.56 | Amarande | yay, auctioneer works |
| 01:07.03 | Amarande | now to figure out what these 161 other errors in bugsack are coming from |
| 01:07.52 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 01:08.53 | Mr_Rabies | i'm getting one every few seconds from chocolatebar |
| 01:09.33 | Amarande | oh wow, arkinventory got a minor glitch that means I probably should dump its saved variables and let it re-acquire inventory info |
| 01:09.40 | Amarande | it says I have two Trail of Embers wands equipped now |
| 01:09.46 | Dagmar | Oh god |
| 01:09.52 | Dagmar | I think I'd try dumping the cache first |
| 01:09.58 | Amarande | presumably, one is the one I actually have equipped now and one is a "ghost" record from it having on record that that was what I had equipped before patch |
| 01:10.01 | Adys | Someone made a *really* amazing "full" title sequence for brba |
| 01:10.02 | Dagmar | hugs his precious rules |
| 01:10.02 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TDFAYRtrYuk |
| 01:10.50 | Amarande | I see Dalaran and capital cooking awards seem to have become unified |
| 01:11.02 | mckenziemc | yes |
| 01:11.31 | mckenziemc | and yes, it migth be a good idea to remove all your old addon variables :p |
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| 01:16.34 | Amarande | mckenziemc: except that usually requires going back to having all your addons splatted in the middle and having to re-drag everything etc. *sigh* |
| 01:17.18 | Amarande | hm. |
| 01:17.23 | Amarande | did achievement tracking get changed/broken? |
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| 01:17.40 | Amarande | questguru works fine as long as you keep it in quest mode, the moment you swap it to achievement mode it disappears and you can't get it to show up again till you reloadui |
| 01:22.04 | karl_w_w | any fire mages want to test an addon for me? |
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| 01:23.22 | Amarande | rofl, that was an appropriate response from my UI |
| 01:23.26 | Amarande | "Fatality! Fatality!" |
| 01:23.34 | Amarande | apparently I last logged off this one character while dead heh |
| 01:23.48 | mckenziemc | blizzard killed you |
| 01:23.53 | mckenziemc | in your sleep |
| 01:28.44 | karl_w_w | if you had all the pre-downloaded data for this patch, how much was there left to download? |
| 01:29.04 | Amarande | bah, maybe I should just redo my UI from start |
| 01:29.23 | mckenziemc | this |
| 01:29.37 | mckenziemc | it will also keep you out of IRC for a bit :) |
| 01:29.48 | Amarande | oh, hush |
| 01:30.41 | Arrowmaster | so i just went from a 15" tv to a 24" monitor on my xbox, everything looks so big |
| 01:30.55 | mckenziemc | go fix your UI |
| 01:30.56 | xyphoid | making a glyph of dark binding via recipe puts a glyph of soul consumption in your inventory |
| 01:31.06 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 01:31.14 | Adys | anyone with portal installed? |
| 01:31.19 | Adys | (portal 1) |
| 01:31.25 | kd3 | ya |
| 01:31.29 | Adys | on windows |
| 01:31.35 | kd3 | oh, well, no |
| 01:32.04 | xyphoid | hmm |
| 01:32.07 | xyphoid | discovered recipes i think |
| 01:32.35 | Amarande | mind you, fixing the UI won't fix the other major issue right now with my mage |
| 01:32.35 | xyphoid | i ran both northrend and normal research, both new recipes show up, but both produce soul consumption glyphs, others work |
| 01:32.39 | xyphoid | let's try a relog |
| 01:32.46 | Amarande | which is ... again ... that all the glyphs I have available to me seem to be rather crappy |
| 01:33.13 | Amarande | xyphoid: are you running a tradeskill window addon? |
| 01:33.20 | xyphoid | no addons |
| 01:34.19 | karl_w_w | I do Adys |
| 01:34.28 | Adys | karl_w_w: can you fire it up? |
| 01:34.39 | Adys | i need a screenshot of one of the options items |
| 01:35.34 | karl_w_w | sure which one |
| 01:35.57 | Adys | karl_w_w: options -> audio |
| 01:36.02 | Adys | "3rd party technology credits" |
| 01:36.04 | Amarande | huh. that's a little disconcerting. |
| 01:36.10 | kd3 | hahaha, wow. http://imgur.com/Wbhhx |
| 01:36.13 | Amarande | now when you reinstall WoW or wipe your WTF altogether |
| 01:36.23 | Amarande | when it asks you what type of realm you would like etc. etc., like it does when you do that |
| 01:36.44 | Amarande | instead of it automatically sending you to a realm where you have characters already, it tries to send you to the new character screen on the current "new players" realm |
| 01:36.57 | Amarande | (aka, the current scam realm, according to some cynical players, heh) |
| 01:38.08 | Amarande | ugh, also, time to teleport to shattrath |
| 01:38.14 | mckenziemc | kd3: o.o |
| 01:38.17 | Amarande | it will be much easier to get this working if I'm not amidst all the crowds in SW :P |
| 01:40.10 | Dagmar | Masculinity issues aside, Thrall needs a manicurist... stat! |
| 01:40.36 | karl_w_w | takin an age to upload Adys |
| 01:40.56 | Kraps | 6.80GB additional stuffs after all the preloading |
| 01:41.22 | Kraps | people on the forum are all BUT WHY??????? |
| 01:43.14 | karl_w_w | Adys: http://i46.tinypic.com/2jblhsl.jpg |
| 01:43.31 | Adys | thank you |
| 01:43.33 | Adys | thats on windows? |
| 01:43.58 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 01:44.05 | karl_w_w | steam, if it makes a difference |
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| 01:45.07 | Adys | yep |
| 01:45.08 | Adys | thanks |
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| 01:49.29 | mckenziemc | the character selection screen change makes my death knights look tiny ^^ |
| 01:50.45 | xyphoid | it's little known but humans in azeroth are actually three feet tall |
| 01:51.17 | mckenziemc | i don't have any human DKs, thank god |
| 01:53.06 | Kraps | staying at 0% even though stuff is apparently downloading is ok yeah? http://gyazo.com/61e3b85657b04b92f6322245286e69ed.png?1346204669 |
| 01:53.35 | xyphoid | for the reorg thing? |
| 01:53.48 | xyphoid | hmm |
| 01:53.49 | Kraps | no i'm past that |
| 01:54.08 | xyphoid | that kind of reads to me like your whole preload is being downloaded again to me |
| 01:54.11 | xyphoid | not good |
| 01:54.33 | xyphoid | like i downloaded 500megs |
| 01:55.05 | Amarande | mckenziemc: heh, my blood elf DK shrank too |
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| 02:00.41 | scotepi | what is a good site that has a browsable ui export of 5.0.4? wowprogaming doesn't seam to have it |
| 02:01.23 | scotepi | and ExportInterfaceFiles doesnt do anything |
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| 02:03.16 | ghunor | Hi |
| 02:03.26 | Kaylin | welcome |
| 02:04.42 | mckenziemc | don't listen to Kaylin. |
| 02:04.56 | scotepi | seams like http://wow.go-hero.net has it |
| 02:04.56 | Kaylin | :X |
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| 02:05.10 | kd3 | exportinterfacefiles works just fine |
| 02:05.19 | kd3 | you're trying to do it on the login screen, right? |
| 02:05.21 | kd3 | it doesn't work in-game |
| 02:05.28 | scotepi | yeah, login screen |
| 02:05.34 | scotepi | where does it put it? |
| 02:05.47 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:05.51 | scotepi | im extracting interface.mpq now but i found go-hero.net |
| 02:06.02 | kd3 | ~framexml |
| 02:06.02 | purl | i heard framexml is Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 02:06.03 | scotepi | yeah didnt get that folder |
| 02:06.10 | kd3 | where's your wow installed? |
| 02:06.26 | scotepi | D:\Program Files\World of Warcraft |
| 02:06.26 | kd3 | Program Files? |
| 02:06.39 | scotepi | i didnt do the art/code |
| 02:06.42 | Kraps | xyphoid, so what does it mean, its downloading 14gb? |
| 02:06.57 | kd3 | ah, do the 'code' one |
| 02:07.06 | kd3 | "ExportInterfaceFiles code" |
| 02:07.17 | kd3 | you can hit expo<tab> to get it to tab-complete |
| 02:07.40 | pompy1 | with the console enabled? |
| 02:07.50 | xyphoid | Kraps: no clue sorry |
| 02:08.17 | pompy1 | Kraps: your wow folder has hated you for a loongg time! |
| 02:08.28 | pompy1 | my wow folder went from 35gb to 20gb today! |
| 02:08.31 | xyphoid | all i know is the preload was 6.x gigs, and i only had to download 0.5 more |
| 02:09.06 | d[karl]b | stuff like this happens every time there's a major patch |
| 02:09.39 | ghunor | If I have a reference to a Texture that has another texture that is anchored to it, how do I hide both of them? I can't seem to get a reference to the other Texture |
| 02:14.35 | Kraps | the download numbers arent changing here either http://gyazo.com/521a406a25daaafc58bc09ba457f1103.png?1346205827 |
| 02:14.41 | Kraps | :( |
| 02:15.21 | Kraps | except the downloaded amount |
| 02:15.32 | mckenziemc | reinstalls Kraps's OS |
| 02:15.42 | Kraps | stoooop |
| 02:16.08 | Kraps | oh hey it went to 13.9! |
| 02:16.27 | karl_w_w | partitions mckenziemc |
| 02:16.58 | scotepi | odd there is no ITEM_QUALITY_HEIRLOOM in Constants.lua |
| 02:17.08 | Kraps | 6.2 gb left |
| 02:17.18 | Kraps | according to that |
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| 02:21.12 | Kraps | why isnt the the bar in the launcher moving |
| 02:21.23 | Kraps | i dont like change! |
| 02:21.53 | scotepi | it took my op desktop 45mins to get past 0%, it took my wifes pos imac 5mins >< |
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| 02:24.01 | mckenziemc | Kraps: blizzard knows that, that's why the bar isn't changing |
| 02:24.15 | Kraps | bring cata back! |
| 02:24.44 | pompy1 | Kraps: get a new comp |
| 02:25.19 | karl_w_w | Kraps: you're being punished for being a bad person |
| 02:25.25 | Kraps | nooooo |
| 02:26.10 | scotepi | how does my own addon get uninstalled >< |
| 02:26.18 | Kraps | my computer is fine (not really) |
| 02:26.58 | Kraps | its ok |
| 02:28.54 | kd3 | well, that's alarming. my ups claims it's dead |
| 02:29.05 | Amarande | kd3: but your computer's still on? |
| 02:29.14 | Amarande | your computer has learned to draw electricity directly out of the ether |
| 02:29.18 | kd3 | unless I'm imagining this |
| 02:29.33 | Amarande | I'm not sure how long it took the optimisation bar to finish on my machine, I was at work while it was doing that |
| 02:30.07 | karl_w_w | does the optimising come before or after the downloading? |
| 02:30.26 | Kraps | before |
| 02:30.32 | kd3 | Aug 28 22:28:24 narue kernel: [167978.640108] hub 1-3.3:1.0: port 3 disabled by hub (EMI?), re-enabling... |
| 02:30.35 | kd3 | ponders |
| 02:30.55 | karl_w_w | before? pants |
| 02:31.17 | Kraps | so what happens when my 6 gb finish, will it need to optimize again? |
| 02:31.26 | Dagmar | Nope |
| 02:31.31 | Dagmar | Maybe |
| 02:31.49 | Kraps | because i think i started this thing with 56gb free space |
| 02:31.53 | Dagmar | Mine only optimized once, and then it started downloading ~400mb or so of stuff |
| 02:32.04 | Kraps | now its at 60 |
| 02:32.13 | Dagmar | 56gb free space should be MORE than enough |
| 02:32.35 | Kraps | yeah |
| 02:32.40 | Amarande | Dagmar: 640K should be enough for everybody :) |
| 02:34.40 | Dagmar | I think if I scroll all the way back to the top, I still have screenshots of the first amphibians crawling out of the ocean |
| 02:34.48 | Dagmar | My whole WoW directory is still only 19.3Gb |
| 02:34.58 | pompy1 | yeah thats what mine is at |
| 02:35.05 | kd3 | I'm at 21gb, but then I've got other crap |
| 02:35.10 | kd3 | like about 48404 different versions of the UI |
| 02:35.39 | Dagmar | Yeh I just threw out my entire interface directory |
| 02:35.39 | Kraps | hey this should only take about 6 hours give or take 2 |
| 02:36.04 | Dagmar | Kraps: Towers of Hanoi does not lend itself to measured progress |
| 02:36.49 | Kaylin | but by the time the universe ends the universe will end! It's important! |
| 02:37.54 | Kraps | Dagmar, but wolframalpha said... |
| 02:38.17 | Kraps | 5.556 hours |
| 02:38.43 | Dagmar | Quickly! Ask it for tomorrow's Pick 6. |
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| 02:39.49 | Kraps | thats Aug 29, 2012 4:11:25 am |
| 02:40.59 | kd3 | oh, duh |
| 02:41.03 | kd3 | the launcher name got changed |
| 02:41.15 | kd3 | was wondering why he couldn't start the launcher from his old scripts |
| 02:42.45 | scotepi | has anyone tracked down where the talent taints are coming from yet? |
| 02:43.00 | scotepi | *glyph |
| 02:43.33 | Amarande | kd3: yup. similarly, if you had WoW pinned to the taskbar before the patch, you have to remove that shortcut and repin it |
| 02:44.13 | mckenziemc | i had wow.exe pinned to the taskbar (instead of the launcher) and it works fine :D |
| 02:44.14 | Xinhuan | or you can (right-click-properties-edit) the pinned shortcut to point to the new exe |
| 02:44.16 | Xinhuan | ;) |
| 02:44.54 | Xinhuan | oh taskbar, i thought start menu haha |
| 02:45.47 | Kraps | well the launcher link in my start menu has that icon, you know the one |
| 02:50.12 | scotepi | im having some lua logic issues, how can I have ...if stmt1 and not (stmt2 or stmt3) then... |
| 02:52.30 | mckenziemc | by adding the code you want to execute conditionally and then an "end" ;) |
| 02:52.38 | mckenziemc | what you had should work |
| 02:53.03 | scotepi | yeah i think i had another error and i didnt read the message close enough |
| 02:54.22 | scotepi | yep, worked |
| 02:54.30 | scotepi | ty |
| 02:59.48 | Kraps | i want to stay up till Aug 29, 2012 4:11:25 am |
| 03:01.13 | pompy1 | only about 5-8 hrs from now! |
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| 03:17.55 | BabyQuackers | !seen semlar |
| 03:18.06 | BabyQuackers | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:18.36 | karl_w_w | ~seen semlar |
| 03:18.41 | purl | semlar <~chatzilla@97.100.122.23> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 12h 26m 18s ago, saying: 'it isn't balanced around 1v1 period'. |
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| 03:29.38 | ccox | Grrr. When is wow head looter going to be updated for 5.0? It's still throwing a couple of lua errors (and it just updated before I logged in) |
| 03:30.58 | kd3 | points at #wowhead? |
| 03:31.28 | ccox | yes, it would help to click on the right channel... |
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| 03:34.49 | Cairenn | heh |
| 03:35.25 | mckenziemc | tickles Cairenn. |
| 03:35.33 | Cairenn | ~giggle |
| 03:35.33 | purl | teeheehee! |
| 03:35.57 | arton | I suffer the nerfbat. |
| 03:35.59 | arton | :( |
| 03:36.40 | mckenziemc | anyone here have the obsidium nightwing (or w/e it's called) mount from RaF? is it account-wide now? |
| 03:36.54 | mckenziemc | also what about the spectral windrider/gryphon |
| 03:39.29 | Kraps | whats the fastest obtainable stone drake? |
| 03:39.44 | Kraps | obtainable the fastest? |
| 03:41.25 | xyphoid | vial of the sands? |
| 03:43.05 | xyphoid | it's like $$ for vial, rare dungeon drop from stonecore, rare spawn from deepholm, and the dungeon meta |
| 03:43.39 | Motig | eu patcher is up! |
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| 03:54.21 | arton | stomps a rabbit. |
| 03:54.27 | arton | damnit, stop crashing. :( |
| 03:55.12 | arton | I'm so ready to get Windows. |
| 03:55.19 | arton | This Wine bs is getting old. |
| 03:56.43 | haste | only issue I had with wine on beta was the launcher |
| 03:57.22 | arton | I got around that one. Now it crashes when I try to enter game. I thought it was an addon, but it happens no matter what addons I have enabled. |
| 03:57.42 | arton | It's not so rare, but it's really random. |
| 03:58.45 | karl_w_w | would it be faster to run the wow optimisation thing on my SSD and then copying it to an ext HD (via usb 2.0), or just running the optimisation on the ext HD? |
| 03:59.32 | karl_w_w | if it's the latter, I can copy wow onto the ext HD ahead of time so it would just be the optimisation |
| 04:04.14 | karl_w_w | who's run the optmisation on an ssd? |
| 04:04.34 | mckenziemc | Funkeh` just did |
| 04:04.59 | Jammer | anyone know if there is still glyph vendor somewhere in beta? |
| 04:05.28 | Funkeh` | I optimized in under 10 minutes on my ssd |
| 04:05.45 | karl_w_w | awesome |
| 04:05.52 | karl_w_w | so the former should be faster |
| 04:05.52 | Funkeh` | usb2.0 transfer speeds might negate any form of time savings though |
| 04:06.35 | karl_w_w | well the usb 2.0 transfer speeds would make the optimisation painfully slow |
| 04:07.36 | karl_w_w | after optimisation the whole thing should take about an hour to copy over though |
| 04:09.06 | karl_w_w | I'll do it that way, seeing as I don't know how many millions of hours it could take to do the optimisation on the external |
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| 05:17.01 | AcidWeb | As expected |
| 05:17.15 | AcidWeb | WoWi forum is filled with Carbonite users tears |
| 05:17.26 | Semlar | how do they taste |
| 05:18.00 | Semlar | you know i could probably replace carbonite's map |
| 05:18.52 | AcidWeb | I already wrote replacement for only carbonite feature i used - battleground maps. |
| 05:19.25 | Cairenn | No surprise there, but since it's all contained to one [set of] forums, easy to ignore |
| 05:20.34 | Semlar | i'm still working on some of the math to transition it into different map layers but the minimap bit is all doable |
| 05:21.05 | Semlar | like this http://i.imgur.com/Ingwo.jpg |
| 05:21.30 | Semlar | i didn't really use carbonite though so i'm not sure exactly everything that it does |
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| 05:21.42 | AcidWeb | i admit that google maps like map is good. |
| 05:22.46 | AcidWeb | But I always thought that Carbonite is a bit bloated. |
| 05:23.08 | Semlar | well this is about as streamlined as it gets for just the map |
| 05:23.10 | AcidWeb | Still that was impressive piece piece of software |
| 05:23.12 | AcidWeb | RIP [*] |
| 05:23.18 | AcidWeb | :-) |
| 05:24.29 | AcidWeb | heh http://virtxchange.com/carbonite/ |
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| 05:25.31 | Semlar | my intention isn't really to replace carbonite though, i'm just trying to make a fancy map |
| 05:26.32 | nevcairiel | i dunno why people think the minimap textures look fancy |
| 05:27.06 | Semlar | because they're basically a satellite view of the world |
| 05:27.20 | nevcairiel | a crappy looking one |
| 05:27.33 | Semlar | i'm planning on having it transition to higher level maps as you zoom out |
| 05:28.00 | Dark_Elf | predicts a new carbonite will be out b4 the weekend lol |
| 05:31.26 | Fisker | i'm tired nevcairiel |
| 05:33.01 | Adys | http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/08/28/playing-games-for-all-the-wrong-reasons |
| 05:33.04 | Adys | extremely good article |
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| 05:37.27 | Fisker | idk Adys |
| 05:37.33 | Fisker | has more letters than pictures |
| 05:37.37 | Corrodias | ik Adys |
| 05:37.45 | Corrodias | he's the one who links things |
| 05:38.46 | Adys | I AM THE ONE WHO LINKS |
| 05:38.54 | Adys | STAY OUT OF MY INTERNETS |
| 05:39.25 | Adys | what did i miss |
| 05:39.28 | Adys | oh yeah |
| 05:39.43 | Adys | IM IN THE INTERNET BUSINESS |
| 05:41.27 | Semlar | do you buy and sell internets |
| 05:41.59 | Adys | my internet is 99.1% pure |
| 05:42.04 | Esamynn | ~lart Adys |
| 05:42.04 | purl | puts Adys into a headlock and administers a mighty noogie, rubbing half of Adys's hair of |
| 05:42.17 | Semlar | what's the other .9% |
| 05:42.24 | Adys | cats |
| 05:42.36 | Semlar | i guess that's an acceptable filler |
| 05:42.38 | nevcairiel | so 99.1% pure, and .9% purr? |
| 05:42.49 | Semlar | stop that |
| 05:42.49 | Adys | ~nevcairiel++ |
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| 05:59.45 | arton | :/ |
| 06:00.08 | arton | stuck at loading screen probably downloading this instance since I pass up the installer early |
| 06:00.58 | arton | people are waiting on me lol |
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| 06:03.19 | arton | Why did I renew my WoW sub? :( |
| 06:03.26 | arton | This is nothing but trouble. |
| 06:05.55 | Fisker | mad? |
| 06:09.04 | Esamynn | arton: I have a simple solution |
| 06:09.05 | Esamynn | quit |
| 06:09.25 | Esamynn | it's easy! |
| 06:09.37 | Xinhuan | so did u catch kagaro? |
| 06:09.39 | Xinhuan | he was on earlier |
| 06:09.47 | Esamynn | me? no |
| 06:09.56 | Esamynn | I was kinda out of it today |
| 06:10.05 | Esamynn | only got 3 hours of sleep last night |
| 06:10.20 | Esamynn | spent the most of the night and part of the morning getting Gatherer ready |
| 06:10.28 | Xinhuan | i guess a while ago meant 11 hours :P |
| 06:10.58 | Esamynn | lol |
| 06:10.59 | pompy1 | why the hell is Cooking still not listed under the professions view in the guild ui lol? |
| 06:11.10 | pompy1 | but Herbalism and Skinning are lol |
| 06:11.15 | Esamynn | because they hate you pompy1 |
| 06:11.18 | pompy1 | Yup |
| 06:11.24 | Esamynn | you specifically |
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| 06:36.08 | arton | my troubles might have to do with the fact that I don't have all the game data downloaded. :/ |
| 06:36.43 | neutronimity | What kind of troubles? |
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| 06:38.25 | arton | client crashing when entering game for one. |
| 06:38.42 | arton | other issue is it just took FOREVER to enter SFK. :/ |
| 06:39.35 | arton | I'd have all the game data downloaded but the installer kept crashing |
| 06:39.49 | arton | the background installer too |
| 06:40.02 | neutronimity | Thanks :o |
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| 06:40.32 | arton | shuns bluspacecow. |
| 06:40.40 | bluspacecow | \o |
| 06:40.44 | arton | :/ |
| 06:41.02 | bluspacecow | anyone heard any word about lunar sphere being updated ? what it's author is doing ? suggestions on an alternative ? |
| 06:41.43 | bluspacecow | https://twitter.com/Lhivera/status/240621427353591809 |
| 06:41.55 | bluspacecow | or a class agnostic sphere addon |
| 06:42.17 | bluspacecow | i understand there's user fixes. was just wondering if anyone knew where the author of it got to / an alternative |
| 06:42.49 | neutronimity | What is a sphere addon? Something like OPie? |
| 06:43.22 | neutronimity | (not googling, since .. uh download :<) |
| 06:46.25 | bluspacecow | can you view photos ? |
| 06:46.26 | bluspacecow | http://media-curse.cursecdn.com/attachments/2/615/f546f949f43b9798e49ae88f77d50613.png |
| 06:46.44 | bluspacecow | oh pee ? |
| 06:47.12 | neutronimity | thanks .__. I'll wait 5 mins to load |
| 06:47.19 | bluspacecow | y so slow |
| 06:47.27 | bluspacecow | you file optimizng ? |
| 06:47.30 | neutronimity | No, not pee. :p |
| 06:48.17 | neutronimity | Yeah, well, Downloading Updated Tools |
| 06:48.25 | bluspacecow | oh dear |
| 06:48.32 | bluspacecow | has the migration setup thing come up yet ? |
| 06:49.00 | neutronimity | No! |
| 06:49.54 | bluspacecow | you'll be updating the Tools in the Battle.net /Agent / Launcher folders then possibly |
| 06:50.01 | bluspacecow | thats around a 200 MB download |
| 06:50.46 | neutronimity | ~50 to go then :) |
| 06:51.08 | neutronimity | The image has loaded halfway - enough to see that OPie maybe is something for you? |
| 06:52.01 | AcidWeb | neutronimity: That is completly diffrent thing. |
| 06:52.29 | neutronimity | Aw. :( |
| 06:53.00 | neutronimity | I've only seen the images. :( |
| 06:53.24 | bluspacecow | it's okay. |
| 06:53.32 | bluspacecow | its not for me its for one of the MVPs |
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| 06:56.24 | Humbedooh | oh that harl and his many names |
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| 06:57.56 | harlspacecow | :P |
| 06:58.19 | neutronimity | https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/xEZOFpjag9G1SReFXT-HelpzBBsj1dSpJFUy3Iv6vv3WJA33ti1e_u49oqkoK61tkG2PDCC3O9r7xqA |
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| 07:05.31 | Vladinator | neutronimity: forbidden |
| 07:05.33 | Vladinator | ah nvm |
| 07:13.59 | d87 | are weapon enchants completely gone or shamans still have them? |
| 07:17.01 | xyphoid | it was just rogue ones that changed wasn't it? |
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| 07:17.56 | neutronimity | I don't know why, but my laptop was suddenly stuck at network identification, and could not keep proper connection to the router and internet. |
| 07:18.09 | Vladinator | d87: shamans got them |
| 07:18.26 | neutronimity | I had to restart. :< |
| 07:19.52 | harlspacecow | fixed nows ? |
| 07:20.20 | neutronimity | Me? Well, yes. The restart and not knowing what fucked it up-thing was annoying. |
| 07:20.47 | harlspacecow | heh had a similar issue with my Mountain Lion update |
| 07:20.59 | neutronimity | Windows here |
| 07:21.05 | harlspacecow | basically |
| 07:21.31 | harlspacecow | i had to remove a lot of gunk from my system stuff that I assumed the update will put out and dump in an "old system crap" folder |
| 07:21.40 | Vladinator | I like how any issue is just saying "windows" and it's like "ah I understand" :P |
| 07:22.01 | Vladinator | hardcore prejudice :D |
| 07:22.10 | harlspacecow | there used to be this thing called an "archive and reinstall" which effectively took a copy of my old system folder , stuck it in a "old system crap" folder |
| 07:22.30 | harlspacecow | so I had stuff in there I had installed 2 system updates ago |
| 07:22.35 | harlspacecow | and never got rid of or updated |
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| 07:25.15 | Vladinator | woke up too early and now I feel like shit |
| 07:27.42 | Torhal | Then you ought not flush. |
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| 07:31.39 | neutronimity | Had to restart again, since I lost connection to router, and was stuck at network identification again .. |
| 07:34.17 | neutronimity | De- and reconnecting did not help last time; doubt it would have helped this time also. |
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| 07:37.22 | neutronimity | https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/4bQFJMCkbzGZKNJtDehyQMFEzbxjtkyYy4Jb_xl4gvxKe4pNZDIJW2TGIEBKQWjxql5BJqucoG0 |
| 07:37.27 | neutronimity | cries softly. |
| 07:41.19 | harlspacecow | *gently pats neutronimity* |
| 07:41.45 | harlspacecow | not sure what I should be looking at as I don't know german |
| 07:41.54 | harlspacecow | but it looks traumitizing =b |
| 07:42.05 | neutronimity | Two networks of the same name, but the latter is not identified |
| 07:43.20 | neutronimity | I don't dare start up the WoW Launcher again, since the disconnect happened around that time, and it showed then 1 not identified network, with no access to internet. |
| 07:44.35 | harlspacecow | does your agent.db have the p2penabled to false ? |
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| 07:45.37 | neutronimity | "p2penable" : true, |
| 07:45.47 | neutronimity | Wonder, I found what you were speaking of .o |
| 07:45.54 | harlspacecow | i think it's that |
| 07:46.06 | harlspacecow | try changing it to false and see if the disconnects again |
| 07:46.10 | neutronimity | I'll disable it |
| 07:46.12 | neutronimity | Ok |
| 07:46.30 | neutronimity | Starting |
| 07:46.58 | neutronimity | (Going through downloading updated tools once again) |
| 07:47.02 | harlspacecow | hmmm |
| 07:48.17 | neutronimity | Updating setup files now. |
| 07:48.20 | Humbedooh | should I be calling myself harlbedooh as well? :| |
| 07:48.54 | neutronimity | Ooh, it progressed to around halfway. |
| 07:49.07 | harlspacecow | ... |
| 07:49.14 | harlspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:49.27 | Humbedooh | no! there is no L in humbedooh :\ |
| 07:49.30 | bluspacecow | >_> forgot to switch back |
| 07:49.52 | bluspacecow | check the temp folder. should be about 220 MB |
| 07:50.29 | neutronimity | 189MB. |
| 07:50.50 | bluspacecow | still downloading the migration setup in there i see. |
| 07:51.02 | neutronimity | Aaw. :( |
| 07:51.18 | neutronimity | Updating setup files kinda finished? |
| 07:51.25 | neutronimity | Optimization!:o |
| 07:51.38 | neutronimity | Reconfiguring game files now |
| 07:51.49 | neutronimity | Thanks bluspacecow :) |
| 07:52.01 | bluspacecow | now if only i could fix mine |
| 07:52.04 | neutronimity | I wouldn't know about the p2p issue |
| 07:52.10 | neutronimity | What's the problem? |
| 07:52.26 | bluspacecow | its a little complicated. |
| 07:52.32 | bluspacecow | i was all fully updated |
| 07:52.52 | bluspacecow | then i applied a tools patch (2756) from the cata which screwed with the MoP tools. |
| 07:53.07 | bluspacecow | so launcher is not updating to the MoP tools |
| 07:53.09 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 07:53.52 | bluspacecow | luckily i prepped mirrors of all the new programs and Temp folders that come up |
| 07:53.59 | bluspacecow | shouldn't take me too long to fix |
| 07:55.08 | zenzio | http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/yxx3m/suspensions_for_offensive_names_and_inappropriate/ -- some quite amusing stuff in there |
| 07:55.12 | neutronimity | Aah, well, nice then you should be done soon :o |
| 07:55.17 | bluspacecow | yepped. replaced it with a backup copy. Then run the new World of Warcraft Setup again. Is going nows. |
| 07:55.48 | neutronimity | Gonewild2? |
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| 07:57.07 | zenzio | hm, EU maintenance extended to 15:00... that's quite a long time |
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| 08:08.33 | Fisker | not extended zenzio |
| 08:08.34 | Fisker | am |
| 08:08.36 | Fisker | bam |
| 08:10.42 | zenzio | https://twitter.com/BlizzardCSEU_EN/status/240712894990389249 - they call it extended |
| 08:14.16 | nevcairiel | it was 15:00 already when i checked very early this morning |
| 08:15.07 | zenzio | wouldn't surprise me if the CS post was late, seems very common |
| 08:15.21 | zenzio | but as I had no chance to try to log on before heading to work, it's still a "hm" to me :) |
| 08:16.54 | mckenziemc | picture of Fisker: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Portrait_of_a_Proboscis_Monkey.jpg |
| 08:17.46 | Sintacks | due to some unforeseen issues. |
| 08:17.47 | Sintacks | lies |
| 08:17.52 | Sintacks | bold faced fucking lies |
| 08:17.54 | Sintacks | also |
| 08:17.56 | Sintacks | lolz |
| 08:18.00 | bluspacecow | u mad ? |
| 08:18.05 | bluspacecow | u sound mad ? |
| 08:18.06 | zenzio | clearly |
| 08:18.11 | Sintacks | nope |
| 08:18.13 | Sintacks | cuz US > EU |
| 08:18.14 | Sintacks | bitches |
| 08:18.31 | zenzio | I see you accidentally hit the shift button when you pressed < |
| 08:18.36 | bluspacecow | would you like a moist towelet ? |
| 08:18.42 | Sintacks | no.. shift < would be , |
| 08:18.44 | Sintacks | dummy |
| 08:19.04 | zenzio | maybe on your silly English/US keyboard layout |
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| 08:19.30 | Sintacks | , < . > |
| 08:19.52 | zenzio | but either way, it does invalidate my joke |
| 08:20.02 | Sintacks | lol |
| 08:20.08 | neutronimity | It says my driver is the latest one. I don't believe it! |
| 08:20.09 | Sintacks | it was funny joke though |
| 08:20.15 | Sintacks | even if invalid |
| 08:20.36 | zenzio | <> = unshifted, shifted on the button right next to the left shift button on my layout |
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| 08:21.02 | zenzio | which would be super awesome for VB, where <> is a comparison operator... x.x |
| 08:21.11 | Sintacks | zomg |
| 08:21.21 | Sintacks | i hit 100 days played at level 85 7 minutes ago |
| 08:21.31 | Sintacks | 188 days total |
| 08:21.33 | zenzio | grats |
| 08:21.42 | zenzio | 100 on one char, 188 total? |
| 08:21.48 | Sintacks | one one char |
| 08:21.53 | Sintacks | 188 days played, 100 of them at level |
| 08:21.55 | Sintacks | on one char |
| 08:22.08 | zenzio | oh, I see |
| 08:22.19 | Sintacks | I've spent 3.2% of my life in WoW (i'll be 25 next month) |
| 08:22.24 | Sintacks | someone said something like 270 days |
| 08:22.27 | Sintacks | fuck the maths |
| 08:22.33 | zenzio | I think I'm around 200 days now, don't remember |
| 08:22.58 | xyphoid | i just tell myself i spent a lot of time alt-tabbed or reading right |
| 08:23.02 | zenzio | given I've not been in a real guild for quite some time, my peak hours/level would most likely be at 70, followed by 80 |
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| 08:23.33 | zenzio | man, I wish there was some API to find that out. Would love to have a graph of time spent on each level |
| 08:23.51 | zenzio | perhaps I should write an addon for that... wouldn't help my existing characters, but could be interesting for alts |
| 08:24.18 | Sintacks | me too zenzio. there have been addons that keep track of it, but you have to have used it since you made the toon :| |
| 08:24.47 | harl | true |
| 08:25.14 | mckenziemc | no harl |
| 08:25.17 | zenzio | I actually wonder how close 60 and 70 would be... 70 would win, but it might have been close |
| 08:25.17 | Sintacks | i wouldn't be supprised if blizzard had that info some where |
| 08:25.43 | Sintacks | lawl... inc flight path speeds are actually noticable |
| 08:26.07 | harl | Error: Unable to comply, mckenziemc. |
| 08:26.11 | zenzio | I wrote an addon that timed flight paths... for a project I never completed |
| 08:26.17 | Sintacks | lol |
| 08:26.25 | neutronimity | zenzio, Ketho has such an addon, I think |
| 08:26.32 | neutronimity | (For levels) |
| 08:26.36 | harl | yes, it's named ReadySetDing |
| 08:26.43 | zenzio | hm |
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| 08:28.06 | mckenziemc | hey Shirik |
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| 08:29.24 | neutronimity | Weird. |
| 08:29.43 | neutronimity | The unknown (not indentified) network vanished. |
| 08:30.14 | bluspacecow | IIRC agent connects to itself by some weird IP |
| 08:30.17 | bluspacecow | might of been that |
| 08:30.58 | neutronimity | I know it wasn't limited to anything it did - it has been there at least a month, during which I gave up out of frustration. |
| 08:31.32 | bluspacecow | heh |
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| 08:32.15 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6413083643#9 |
| 08:32.40 | bluspacecow | weird port for the launcher to be listening from |
| 08:33.22 | Kalroth | maybe it's spying on you |
| 08:33.28 | neutronimity | Basically, there's my router to which I connect via WLAN, and since some time, in my network center, there has been a second entry popping up sometimes. That second entry is basically the same network, but not identified and it's public. This often happened after a hibernate session also, where dis- and reconnecting did not help at all with gaining access to Internet when it was lost |
| 08:33.35 | Kalroth | waiting for skynet to report in |
| 08:33.50 | mckenziemc | hey blutrojancow |
| 08:45.59 | pompy1 | owned |
| 08:46.41 | bluceilingcow | *watches you* |
| 08:46.54 | harl | evil clicking fingers |
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| 08:53.56 | neutronimity | 1317 hours in tf2 |
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| 08:59.59 | harl | reconfiguring game files, huh? |
| 09:00.38 | neutronimity | yes |
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| 09:19.05 | harl | well, that'll take quite a while it seems |
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| 09:23.57 | neutronimity | after 1 and 1/2 hours still at 0% :) |
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| 09:26.05 | nevcairiel | took 5minutes for me |
| 09:26.14 | nevcairiel | hooray for SSDs |
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| 09:33.46 | harl | ssd here as well, so it's not that. i see the process read & write and now it's downloading something, saying 8.03 GB left |
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| 09:35.54 | harl | which means it'll take at least another 5 hours |
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| 09:37.37 | Sintacks | |05:23:23 am| [neutronimity] after 1 and 1/2 hours still at 0% :) |
| 09:37.46 | Sintacks | you have a really really bad harddrive then |
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| 09:40.10 | neutronimity | Should I restart? |
| 09:40.22 | harl | i don't think so |
| 09:41.56 | neutronimity | There is a WoW-64.exe.temp in my WoW folder? :O |
| 09:42.08 | neutronimity | I'm 32-Vista |
| 09:42.14 | harl | yeah, that's ok |
| 09:42.19 | harl | it's supposed to be there |
| 09:42.33 | Mr_Rabies | my guess is if it's 32 bit, they rename it to .temp so people don't run it and go WTFFF |
| 09:42.33 | Jamash | snuz |
| 09:43.07 | neutronimity | It's been created almost a hour ago :o |
| 09:43.44 | neutronimity | hm, all the latest is 09:51. It's 11:43 now. |
| 09:44.10 | harl | true |
| 09:46.38 | karl_w_w | i hate when you grate cheese and keeping eating it while grating |
| 09:47.11 | zenzio | there are a remarkable number of things that count down to 0, and then spend another second on 0 |
| 09:47.43 | zenzio | in this case the office microwave |
| 09:48.34 | Jamash | rounding up? |
| 09:49.19 | harl | rounding integer, huh? |
| 09:50.14 | Jamash | the half-open interval [0..1) is displayed as zero |
| 09:50.31 | Kalroth | more like it's zero index based and the last step is the zero |
| 09:50.35 | Jamash | er, so rounding down |
| 09:50.45 | Jamash | so zero is displayed for a full second |
| 09:51.15 | Jamash | if the displayed time were rounded up, then it would display 0 at the moment it stops |
| 09:51.51 | Kalroth | no, it'd display 1 until it stops, which is also wrong |
| 09:52.02 | Jamash | that's the same thing sir |
| 09:52.07 | Kalroth | no |
| 09:52.09 | Jamash | yes |
| 09:52.36 | Kalroth | the display is time until it's done - if it stops while the display displays 1, then the display is wrong! |
| 09:52.39 | Jamash | displaying 1 until it displays 0 is the same as displaying 0 as soon as it stops displaying 1 |
| 09:53.25 | Sintacks | http://puu.sh/ZV58 -- I'll never get two of the ones I'm missing now :( |
| 09:53.42 | Sintacks | oh.. 3 of them |
| 09:53.53 | Jamash | if it's rounding the displayed time up, when there are 1,000,000 microseconds left, it'll display 1 second |
| 09:54.06 | Jamash | when there is 1 microsecond left, it'll display 1 second |
| 09:54.22 | Jamash | when it reaches 0, it stops, and displays 0 |
| 09:54.23 | harl | wenn something stops at 0 exactly, then there's no 0 to display if the display stops displaying at 0 |
| 09:54.32 | harl | so there's no 0 at all |
| 09:54.39 | Jamash | you're silly |
| 09:54.41 | Kalroth | it's all a lucid dream |
| 09:54.55 | Jamash | microwave stops, displays 0 and beeps |
| 09:55.10 | Jamash | or "END" in some cases |
| 09:55.15 | Jamash | end is not a number though |
| 09:55.24 | harl | yea and 0 is not "still a second left". 1 is |
| 09:55.35 | Kalroth | true zeros on microwaves are like a deja vu - it's a sign of failure in the matrix |
| 09:55.41 | Xinhuan | this is the strangest conversation i've read today |
| 09:55.42 | Jamash | you seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of the concept of timekeeping, harl |
| 09:55.54 | harl | well, i assure you i don't |
| 09:56.02 | Jamash | time is what clocks measure |
| 09:56.03 | neutronimity | after 2 hours still at 0% :o |
| 09:56.13 | Jamash | neutronimity: kill it and start it up again |
| 09:56.22 | neutronimity | hmm |
| 09:56.32 | neutronimity | launch as admin also i guess :) |
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| 09:56.57 | Kalroth | i agree with harl, but mainly because he's harl |
| 09:57.03 | Kalroth | had it been anyone else, then no |
| 09:57.09 | Kalroth | especially if it was Fisker |
| 09:57.12 | Kalroth | curse him |
| 09:57.19 | harl | lol |
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| 09:58.44 | Sintacks | inb4 neutronimity breaks their wow and has to redownload and reinstall |
| 09:58.53 | Jamash | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6412103544 |
| 09:59.09 | neutronimity | that would suck |
| 10:00.35 | Jamash | 1 on a timekeeping device can indicate anywhere from one tick up from 0 to one tick down from 2 depending on rounding mode |
| 10:00.50 | Jamash | s/time/digital time/ |
| 10:02.35 | Kalroth | hey Jamash is 00:00 am or pm?! |
| 10:03.00 | Jamash | harl: unless you're going to argue that there are no increments of time smaller than a second, in which case I recommend you seek out a good mental health facility to check yourself into |
| 10:03.15 | Jamash | Kalroth: yes |
| 10:03.24 | Kalroth | so you admit defeat |
| 10:03.38 | harl | well, that's your second attempt to insult me. |
| 10:03.50 | Jamash | it is, in fact, at least one of am or pm |
| 10:04.15 | Jamash | it's a conditional insult |
| 10:05.13 | Jamash | I don't know whether you're crazy, so I'm leaving the determination up to you |
| 10:05.29 | Jamash | actually it's not an insult at all |
| 10:05.34 | Jamash | some of my best friends are crazy |
| 10:07.20 | neutronimity | Hmm the optimization process is groping around in my Data folder |
| 10:07.29 | Jamash | that's the intended function |
| 10:07.49 | neutronimity | expansion2.MPQ is locked :D |
| 10:07.49 | Jamash | if it's writing anything then it's probably working |
| 10:07.55 | neutronimity | I can follow its progress, hooray |
| 10:08.37 | Jamash | well unless someone has anything to add to the topic of microwave timers I'm going to sleep |
| 10:08.57 | Vladinator | I failzors at dbc extracting :( |
| 10:08.57 | Jamash | in 3... 2... 1... |
| 10:09.51 | Vladinator | btw the data folder is 18gb without cache folder (I cleansed my cache folders before starting :P) |
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| 10:11.17 | kagaro | Vladinator if i had the live client installed i would extract the dbcs for you, only have beta on my laptop |
| 10:22.07 | Vladinator | thanks kagaro |
| 10:22.11 | Vladinator | tell me when you get the live :P |
| 10:22.20 | Vladinator | btw my custom textures got BAKED into the mpq's -_- |
| 10:22.38 | kagaro | won't be till next wednsday I'm traveling, you can however just check DataTools project all the code is there |
| 10:22.42 | zenzio | custom textures? |
| 10:24.02 | Vladinator | you know, Interface\LFGFrame colored the eye blue for LFR |
| 10:24.12 | Vladinator | so now the files when doing export art was my blue texture :P |
| 10:24.26 | Vladinator | or my silenced annoying shooting for hunter sounds, them too :( |
| 10:24.47 | neutronimity | how big is your expansion4.mpq? :p |
| 10:24.59 | Vladinator | 1,45 GB (1Â 561Â 768Â 336 bytes) |
| 10:25.19 | neutronimity | thanks! |
| 10:25.45 | Vladinator | but not sure where they got baked :P |
| 10:25.54 | Vladinator | not sure how I should proceed... |
| 10:26.05 | Vladinator | repair.exe no longer exists :P |
| 10:26.18 | Vladinator | and the launcher don't really care, it says "game up to date" :P |
| 10:28.43 | Vladinator | so how do poor sods like me do a md5 check? |
| 10:29.16 | Vladinator | otherwise I gotta simply delete all my MPQ's and redownload everything, but just shame to spend so much time doing that :P |
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| 10:33.28 | Vladinator | anyone got a clean 5.0.4.16016 that wishes to md5 the MPQs? |
| 10:33.48 | Vladinator | Adys would if he was here :P |
| 10:34.01 | Vladinator | That guy could give me md5 from Vanilla when BWL got released I bet. |
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| 10:36.49 | Vladinator | "Sure we aren't just from the US, we got tons of European too!" right :P |
| 10:36.58 | Vladinator | s/right/riiiiiiiight :P |
| 10:37.24 | Vladinator | Oh well maybe it's work hours, true |
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| 10:37.46 | BabyQuackers | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:37.58 | Cairenn | thinks she is missing half of the conversation |
| 10:38.16 | Vladinator | :P |
| 10:38.24 | BabyQuackers | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:38.26 | Vladinator | Starting a new game download is 20gb fyi ^^ |
| 10:38.47 | Vladinator | Since my mpq got messed up with custom textures, I am redownloading all the game mpq's, sadly :P |
| 10:39.09 | BabyQuackers | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:39.13 | BabyQuackers | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:39.15 | Vladinator | I do |
| 10:39.25 | BabyQuackers | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:39.39 | Vladinator | because the patch took custom texture files and baked them into the mpqs :P |
| 10:39.55 | BabyQuackers | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:39.59 | Vladinator | when I did art export my custom UI textures were inside, I thing it will cause problems for the future regarding patches :P |
| 10:40.02 | BabyQuackers | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:40.15 | Vladinator | just silly that they'd do this without alerting me :( |
| 10:40.21 | Vladinator | each damn "optimizing" patch :P |
| 10:40.39 | BabyQuackers | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:40.40 | Vladinator | fyi 20gb over 8mb/s takes ~5hours :3 |
| 10:41.06 | BabyQuackers | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:41.17 | Vladinator | I hope that's usb v1 |
| 10:41.24 | BabyQuackers | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:41.34 | Vladinator | :P |
| 10:42.28 | Vladinator | my friend complained last time that his download was slow and capped at 1.5 mb/s cirka, I told him my router is old so it caps at 10 mbit ;D |
| 10:42.43 | Vladinator | got a 75 mbit connection otherwise, so in my house cable > wifi :3 |
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| 10:47.40 | Vladinator | going out for a little bit, back "soon" posting some mail |
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| 10:52.57 | Ycarene | Can anyone recommend any decent quest ui mods? |
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| 10:55.55 | zenzio | Ycarene: think you'll have to explain what you would like to be different from the default UI |
| 10:58.40 | zenzio | "Why did the dinosaur eat the baby? It didn't. Humans did not appear until after the extinction of dinosaurs." |
| 10:59.52 | Semlar | not the mama |
| 11:08.11 | Vladinator | lol :P |
| 11:08.23 | Vladinator | Ycarene: about questing UI, you really just need to know "where to go" now a days |
| 11:09.00 | Vladinator | I recomment QuestPointer so map blobs show on the minimap |
| 11:09.31 | Vladinator | you need a tomtom like arrow to tell where to go? :P |
| 11:09.57 | Vladinator | oh also a simple mod that accepts quests, delivers, e.g. to speed up talking if you like, but personally I wrote it myself so I don't know of any addon to recommend regarding this :P |
| 11:10.37 | Vladinator | btw 20gb over 9mb/s would take ~5 hours but I've spent ~1 hour and it's already 83%... I think the launcher speed is incorrect :P |
| 11:11.06 | Vladinator | ah never mindzors, I just did the math wrong :P |
| 11:11.22 | Vladinator | 20gb9mb/s indeed takes ~40 min ^^ |
| 11:11.33 | Vladinator | s/9mb/8mb |
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| 11:14.22 | Vladinator | fun fact, it took less time to redownload all than Adys coming home to give me a md5/crc summary :D |
| 11:14.31 | Vladinator | Internet 1 Adys 0 |
| 11:20.52 | karl_w_w | mr Adys can I trouble you for an updated list of those patch downloads like what you done posted yesterday? :P |
| 11:21.56 | Vladinator | :3 |
| 11:22.17 | Vladinator | he seems to be off atm, he never misses a single response when you use his name in your message |
| 11:22.49 | karl_w_w | yeah, I'm sure he'll see it when he comes back |
| 11:23.03 | Vladinator | he has a ton of messages to see from me too :P |
| 11:23.04 | mitch0 | strange. got a donation via wowmatrix for one of my mods... didn't that site go to dust? |
| 11:23.21 | Vladinator | \shrug/ |
| 11:23.37 | karl_w_w | no, we only wish it would |
| 11:24.12 | mitch0 | well, at least they transferred my donate info, too ;) |
| 11:28.21 | Ycarene | I'm look for a replacement for questguru as it's not working anymore. |
| 11:29.57 | Vladinator | look at what I replied earlier, that's my two cents :P |
| 11:30.13 | Vladinator | I am sure it will be updated if you give it some days |
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| 11:35.32 | mitch0 | has Ancient Guardian's and Ancient Crusader's duration been upped to 40 secs? |
| 11:42.13 | Vladinator | *shrug* |
| 11:42.25 | Vladinator | md5 scanning the mpqs takes time, LOL |
| 11:42.29 | Vladinator | longer than downloading xD |
| 11:42.39 | Vladinator | but doing like 10 things at once so my poor CPU |
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| 11:43.50 | karl_w_w | bluworkcow! |
| 11:44.48 | bluworkcow | \o |
| 11:44.51 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:45.06 | Vladinator | I consider not paying copy fee on my university, 100 bucks for not using the service at all lol :P |
| 11:47.23 | Vladinator | ( wow 5.0.4.16016 clean md5 if anyone cares http://pastebin.com/B0CrQfJn ) |
| 11:47.30 | Vladinator | there, I said it for the logs :P |
| 11:48.47 | bluworkcow | for enGB users of Windows that is. |
| 11:49.28 | bluworkcow | should piped it through a sort of course ;) |
| 11:51.20 | zenzio | why? |
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| 11:51.44 | bluworkcow | to group the folder path together nicely |
| 11:51.53 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:53.17 | zenzio | so you mean pipe the file list before running it through md5sum, not afterwards |
| 11:53.30 | zenzio | sort the file list |
| 11:53.43 | bluworkcow | yeah |
| 11:54.34 | zenzio | in that case I see your point |
| 11:54.47 | zenzio | I was wondering what good sorting by the checksums would be :) |
| 11:54.49 | nevcairiel | i dont think a md5 of mpqs is useful |
| 11:55.04 | nevcairiel | they get rebuild by the game |
| 11:55.26 | bluworkcow | while playing or during the file optimixation part ? |
| 11:55.58 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:56.10 | Vladinator | I can sum up what I said ~hour ago, nevcairiel and bluworkcow |
| 11:56.36 | Vladinator | I had a lot of custom UI textures and such in my game, so when the game finished patching and all, when I exported the art trough the console my custom textures appeared, so they apparently got bakedi not the mpqs :P |
| 11:56.37 | bluworkcow | wasn't around then so go ahead. |
| 11:57.01 | Vladinator | since I wanted to do some md5 checking on my mpqs and with others but no one had any available so I just redownloaded the whole game in ~40 min :P |
| 11:57.29 | Vladinator | and now I made md5s of my own clean install in case anyone else might need that info |
| 11:57.35 | nevcairiel | modifying game files is against all kind of rules, so you're on your own. :p |
| 11:57.58 | Vladinator | the updater did it itself... |
| 11:58.27 | Vladinator | I never modified anything, I only put my custom textures in the appropriate filepaths so the interface laoded my transparent textures on my UI and such ;) |
| 11:58.28 | Vladinator | loaded* |
| 11:58.47 | Vladinator | if you had let's say, Aurora "addon" that has a lot of custom textures, those would too get baked into your mpqs at this update. |
| 11:59.20 | Vladinator | I don't think I've done anything strictly illegal here, lol :P |
| 11:59.44 | karl_w_w | bluworkcow do you know the direct link to the last part of the patch? |
| 11:59.54 | nevcairiel | an addon sits in the interface folder. if you put something anywhere else you are bad. :p |
| 12:00.04 | bluworkcow | apporiate file paths ? |
| 12:00.15 | bluworkcow | got an example of the file paths you had ? |
| 12:00.21 | Vladinator | ye |
| 12:00.46 | bluworkcow | @karl_w_w for the 16016 patch files ? |
| 12:01.01 | Vladinator | for example I made the LFR eye icon blue so I can tell appart from the LFG queue, i.e. the Interface\LFGFRAME\LFR-Anim.blp |
| 12:01.03 | karl_w_w | i think so |
| 12:01.11 | karl_w_w | the last piece after the pre-downloaded stuff |
| 12:01.20 | Vladinator | extracted the art, recolored and put in that path so the game loads it ;) |
| 12:01.51 | Vladinator | if it's illegal I figure the game client wouldn't load anything outside Interface\AddOns you know |
| 12:03.16 | bluworkcow | are you on the last part after the file optimization karl_w_w |
| 12:04.09 | karl_w_w | I'm planning to be, after i download tome 2 tomorrow :P |
| 12:04.36 | bluworkcow | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IT5N0FjlBB60ABmVdiib65sp8cRkV86RTAleUimgkoI/edit |
| 12:04.55 | Vladinator | "You need permission to access this item." |
| 12:04.56 | bluworkcow | 5.0.4 patch build 16016 patch files |
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| 12:05.20 | bluworkcow | forgot to make it public :\ |
| 12:05.21 | bluworkcow | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IT5N0FjlBB60ABmVdiib65sp8cRkV86RTAleUimgkoI/edit |
| 12:05.30 | Vladinator | neato |
| 12:05.42 | Vladinator | hi honemelgren :3 |
| 12:05.43 | bluworkcow | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qxaioeItfUU8A8t_tuj4IiKGIT67kF5gg_t3ZMVsBB4/edit |
| 12:05.47 | bluworkcow | prepatch files |
| 12:05.50 | bluworkcow | \o |
| 12:07.05 | mitch0 | are there any glyphs/talents remaining that change any spell range? |
| 12:07.49 | karl_w_w | lix bluworkcow |
| 12:10.30 | bluworkcow | hmm okay vlad |
| 12:10.36 | Vladinator | \o/ |
| 12:10.38 | bluworkcow | was this before or after the file optimization ? |
| 12:10.43 | Vladinator | after opti |
| 12:11.02 | bluworkcow | no i mean at which stage did it get backed into the MPQ files directly |
| 12:11.05 | Vladinator | I think the opti process did the nasty work, but can't confirm, does the export art command only use mpqs or? |
| 12:11.10 | Vladinator | I put it on and slept :( |
| 12:11.16 | bluworkcow | not really sure |
| 12:11.17 | Vladinator | so never saw when at what stage |
| 12:11.26 | bluworkcow | best way to check is to open the MPQ files directly |
| 12:11.30 | Vladinator | ye |
| 12:11.34 | bluworkcow | was it a redirect ? |
| 12:11.40 | Vladinator | but I deleted it a moment ago lol :P |
| 12:11.50 | Vladinator | what do you mean, redirect? |
| 12:12.04 | bluworkcow | recreate the file path within the Data folder |
| 12:12.05 | bluworkcow | BRB |
| 12:12.11 | Vladinator | ah |
| 12:12.21 | Vladinator | I can test and see if it exports it idd |
| 12:14.00 | bluworkcow | hmmm |
| 12:14.13 | bluworkcow | what was the _full_ path of one of the custom textures ? |
| 12:14.17 | bluworkcow | also |
| 12:14.23 | bluworkcow | there are logs made during this process |
| 12:14.26 | bluworkcow | have you checked them |
| 12:17.36 | Vladinator | ah I keep my game on my D:\Games\ folder ^^ |
| 12:17.54 | Vladinator | I can't check because I removed the old files right before you asked me earlier >.< so I was stupid indeed. |
| 12:18.51 | Vladinator | I am very sorry :( |
| 12:19.05 | Vladinator | I will check my tool for recently removed files, see if there is a log backup or something |
| 12:20.08 | bluworkcow | do you have a backup of the old wow folder ? |
| 12:22.12 | karl_w_w | annoying, when i go to http://dist.blizzard.com.edgesuite.net/wow-pod-retail/NA/15890.direct/Updates/wow-0-16016-Win-final.MPQ firefox just opens it in the browser |
| 12:23.13 | Vladinator | bluworkcow: I had a backup, yes :P |
| 12:25.48 | bluworkcow | use a different browser then |
| 12:25.50 | bluworkcow | or |
| 12:25.56 | bluworkcow | curl / wget etc |
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| 12:26.07 | bluworkcow | or a download manager |
| 12:26.30 | Adys | Vladinator, karl_w_w: what exactly did you guys want? |
| 12:26.39 | karl_w_w | im good now thanks |
| 12:26.43 | Vladinator | me too |
| 12:27.17 | Adys | alright |
| 12:27.31 | Adys | ive actually been reorganizing the mpqs |
| 12:27.37 | karl_w_w | dont go thinking that means im capable of working autonomously though, I just got help from blu :P |
| 12:27.38 | Vladinator | dang, don't find my backup folder either on my harddrive file recovery, sorry, can't get you logs or real usable information ; |
| 12:27.54 | Adys | im pissed off at blizzard |
| 12:28.04 | Adys | they made changes to files they had already published for wowb- |
| 12:28.12 | Adys | so i *actually* have to split wowb- and wow- |
| 12:28.27 | Adys | there goes another 150 gigabytes of my hard drive. |
| 12:28.52 | Vladinator | (I deleted my WTF folder hehe, oh well, was time to do some cleaning anyway! :P) |
| 12:29.49 | Vladinator | blizz defaulted all ferals to guardians, even if you are a cat :D |
| 12:30.15 | bluworkcow | yeah |
| 12:30.57 | bluworkcow | were any of the textures in any other places in the wow folders other then in the data folder |
| 12:31.41 | Vladinator | only had stuff in the Interface folder and my Font folder |
| 12:31.58 | Vladinator | D:\Games\World of Warcraft\Interface and Fonts, that's all :P |
| 12:32.22 | Vladinator | No custom made mpq files or anything else in those other places |
| 12:32.58 | karl_w_w | awesome, these links are case sensitive as well |
| 12:33.07 | karl_w_w | stupid blizzard |
| 12:34.45 | bluworkcow | i would use Ladik's MPQ editor to track down where in the MPQ file it's gone |
| 12:34.59 | bluworkcow | then download a fresh copy of it using Malidiva's mailing list links |
| 12:35.04 | bluworkcow | and open both and compare. |
| 12:35.13 | bluworkcow | *wonders off to do worky things* |
| 12:36.19 | Semlar | what links are case sensitive |
| 12:36.47 | karl_w_w | the links to the patches on blizz's CDNs |
| 12:37.34 | Semlar | ah |
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| 12:39.49 | AcidWeb | ehttp://imgur.com/a/I53yY |
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| 12:45.22 | Maldivia | ~wowalert |
| 12:45.22 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 12:45.37 | bluworkcow | LOL acidweb |
| 12:45.47 | bluworkcow | how droods get their shoes off the powerlines |
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| 12:47.30 | Cairenn | waves at MysticalOS |
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| 12:48.03 | bluworkcow | oh hi |
| 12:48.08 | MysticalOS | waves at Cairenn |
| 12:48.57 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:49.05 | MysticalOS | runs away in fear |
| 12:49.15 | Lopeppeppy | tsk tsk, bluworkcow. Be nice. |
| 12:49.37 | bluworkcow | *pouts* |
| 12:50.02 | karl_w_w | gives bluworkcow a happy meal |
| 12:50.09 | bluworkcow | yay! |
| 12:50.28 | MysticalOS | don't you know feeding the space goats is bad? |
| 12:50.31 | Lopeppeppy | You are supposed to ask permission before physical role play, you know that. Manners first. |
| 12:50.39 | MysticalOS | points to sign about feeding the animals |
| 12:50.47 | bluworkcow | MysticalOS's my buddy. the other Mac Tech Support MVP |
| 12:51.04 | bluworkcow | the one who actually knows what hes doing with graphics cards drivers and the like :P |
| 12:51.15 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, well then, harass away. No protection for MVPs! |
| 12:51.21 | MysticalOS | yeah, except when forums are a disaster of people complaining about their 2006 macbook's on 10.5 not able to run 5.0.4 |
| 12:51.27 | MysticalOS | i'm hiding |
| 12:51.28 | MysticalOS | :) |
| 12:51.32 | bluworkcow | im all like "have you tried turning it off then on again" |
| 12:51.34 | karl_w_w | surely the only mystical thing about mac os is why anybody uses it |
| 12:51.36 | bluworkcow | actually bud |
| 12:51.41 | bluworkcow | they haven't been that bad |
| 12:51.48 | bluworkcow | seen like only 3 guys complaining |
| 12:52.06 | MysticalOS | i may be putting people on intel gma's in same catagory, heh |
| 12:52.06 | bluworkcow | compared to the PPC times when it was more like or hundreds or so |
| 12:52.28 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:52.41 | bluworkcow | i'm getting quota errors for my login on one of the computers here |
| 12:52.47 | bluworkcow | don't really feel like fixing it :( |
| 12:53.11 | MysticalOS | i was able to get fps to be same as beta after figuring out someone put my computer to sleep while at work, gr, I never suspect THAT to be the problem, and every time it is i miss it |
| 12:53.40 | MysticalOS | to think apple would leave a bug so significant as performance dropping like 66% after sleep in opengl application is mind boggling. |
| 12:55.04 | MysticalOS | i was pleased mod transition was smooth, i only had to fix 3 other peoples mods to login without lua errors. I'm stubborn and don't like finding alternate solutions |
| 12:59.07 | bluworkcow | I helped a few friends of mine with a addon survival guide. most of them it passed without issue. the big thing for most of them was bugsacks throttling abilities |
| 12:59.30 | bluworkcow | so they still had the Lua errors , still were aware they would need to update them but it didn't completely halt their playing, |
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| 13:00.49 | MysticalOS | i'd never do a packday without bugsack :) |
| 13:00.53 | MysticalOS | patch* |
| 13:01.00 | MysticalOS | (where did pack come from?) |
| 13:01.22 | bluworkcow | pack day is right |
| 13:01.33 | bluworkcow | like Lemmings off a cliff in the classic video game |
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| 13:09.01 | karl_w_w | what classic video game? galaga? |
| 13:10.07 | mitch0 | lemmings |
| 13:14.29 | Lopeppeppy | That's the one where you try to kill as many lemmings as you can, right? Lemming soup? |
| 13:15.32 | bluworkcow | ... |
| 13:15.53 | bluworkcow | too young for the original Lemmings |
| 13:16.09 | bluworkcow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SgDS-16UFA |
| 13:16.18 | karl_w_w | no Lopeppeppy that's pacman |
| 13:16.19 | bluworkcow | i'm showing my age :P |
| 13:16.39 | Lopeppeppy | bluipodcow, I'm kinda veryold too. |
| 13:16.57 | bluworkcow | it was a classic amiga game Peppy. |
| 13:17.07 | bluworkcow | the goal was to save as many lemmings as you could |
| 13:17.14 | bluworkcow | you had a source portal for where they come out |
| 13:17.22 | bluworkcow | and a target portal for where they go in. |
| 13:17.32 | bluworkcow | you had tools that made lemmings do certain things |
| 13:17.38 | bluworkcow | dig down , etc etc |
| 13:17.43 | bluworkcow | kinda like Wormz |
| 13:17.53 | bluworkcow | except you had to save as many lemmings as you could |
| 13:17.58 | Lopeppeppy | We just didn't have video games in Northeastern Nowhere. I've seen an updated lemmings game, but not the original. I would have made it so that you had to kill 'em, much more fun that way! |
| 13:19.04 | karl_w_w | that would be worms |
| 13:19.09 | karl_w_w | that game was the best |
| 13:19.13 | karl_w_w | in the 2d days |
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| 13:35.57 | neutronimity | Where is rend :o |
| 13:36.27 | neutronimity | Think it's Deep Wounds now |
| 13:38.55 | Adys | "Women love diamonds for their wide range of industrial applications." |
| 13:39.15 | Lopeppeppy | Only thing good about them, IMO. |
| 13:40.23 | Fisker | hey |
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| 13:44.02 | Lopeppeppy | Hoy |
| 13:44.42 | Cairenn | In general I prefer the (deep) coloured gems - sapphire, ruby, garnet, amethyst, emeralds .... |
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| 13:46.18 | Fisker | hey Cairenn |
| 13:46.23 | Cairenn | hi Fisker |
| 13:46.42 | Adys | Cairenn: for their countless purposes in the electronic engineering industry, yes? |
| 13:46.51 | Cairenn | newp :p |
| 13:46.54 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly, Cairenn. I'm a sucker for a natural emerald, and I have a lovely sapphire solitaire. |
| 13:46.57 | Cairenn | for wearing |
| 13:47.32 | Fisker | so |
| 13:47.39 | Fisker | EU servers not working properly yet? |
| 13:48.39 | Lopeppeppy | Today is your update day, Fisker. Of course they aren't up yet. |
| 13:48.45 | Fisker | they're up |
| 13:48.56 | Lopeppeppy | Wow. That's awesome. |
| 13:48.58 | Fisker | they just don't seem to working properly |
| 13:49.03 | Lopeppeppy | Not surprising they're not too stable though. |
| 13:49.16 | Fisker | loading bar goes to like 90% |
| 13:49.22 | Fisker | then disconnected from server |
| 13:49.41 | Fisker | 8/29 15:48:39.872 Client initiated Disconnect from 213.248.127.130 |
| 13:49.42 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 13:49.45 | Fisker | not sure if srs |
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| 14:00.17 | nevcairiel | so, wowinterface went down eh |
| 14:00.31 | Cairenn | yeah, looking into it |
| 14:00.51 | Cairenn | Thanks though :) |
| 14:01.14 | Fisker | why are you looking into it? |
| 14:01.34 | nevcairiel | so where do i get my updated addons now? :) |
| 14:01.37 | bluworkcow | wouldn't you like to know :P |
| 14:01.42 | Cairenn | Sowwy =/ |
| 14:01.52 | nevcairiel | wonder if those are on curse |
| 14:01.53 | nevcairiel | checks |
| 14:01.56 | bluworkcow | @nevcairiel:n ask the sarcastic rover ! |
| 14:01.58 | bluworkcow | on mars! |
| 14:02.28 | nevcairiel | the interesting part is, 10 minutes ago i downloaded an addon from wowi |
| 14:02.30 | nevcairiel | and now its gone |
| 14:02.32 | nevcairiel | ! |
| 14:02.39 | Lopeppeppy | As in, not on your computer anymore? |
| 14:02.41 | bluworkcow | magic! |
| 14:02.49 | nevcairiel | Lopeppeppy: no, wowi is gone! |
| 14:02.56 | nevcairiel | also, i found the addon i was looking for on curse |
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| 14:03.31 | Lopeppeppy | The addon sites always take a huge hit when patches come online. Cairenn will have it back in no time. |
| 14:03.42 | Cairenn | crosses her fingers |
| 14:04.00 | MentalPower | you have no idea :/ |
| 14:04.16 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy |
| 14:04.25 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:04.58 | Lopeppeppy | I'm being positive and optimistic and stuff. |
| 14:05.49 | Cairenn | huggles the Lopeppeppy |
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| 14:06.10 | Lopeppeppy | Do not look to me for glooms and dooms, because that's only my job on Fridays. |
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| 14:08.37 | Fisker | IE is the best browser |
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| 14:12.45 | Cairenn | We're back |
| 14:13.51 | bluworkcow | hi2u |
| 14:14.12 | bluworkcow | wasnt |
| 14:14.29 | bluworkcow | wasn't there a cut down minimal version of wowi you can connect to ? |
| 14:16.04 | Cairenn | we don't have the ultra-lite version up this time |
| 14:19.22 | Fisker | hey bluworkcow |
| 14:19.54 | bluworkcow | hey hey |
| 14:22.02 | Kaelten | Cairenn: :( |
| 14:22.07 | Cairenn | Kaelten: ? |
| 14:22.11 | Kaelten | http://o7.no/Ox1qNY |
| 14:22.13 | Kaelten | lies! |
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| 14:22.46 | Cairenn | Kaelten: ? |
| 14:22.52 | Kaelten | I updated it last night :P |
| 14:23.06 | Vladinator | wowi broken, can't post my comment :( |
| 14:23.08 | Cairenn | wha? |
| 14:23.18 | Cairenn | @ Kaelten |
| 14:23.27 | Cairenn | Vladinator: you change email addy by chance? |
| 14:23.32 | Vladinator | works now :p |
| 14:23.34 | Kaelten | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4207-OneBag3.html |
| 14:23.37 | Cairenn | ah |
| 14:23.55 | Vladinator | nope. just had an issue with posting my comment a moment ago -infinite page loading :P |
| 14:23.59 | Cairenn | updated the list, thanks |
| 14:24.10 | Cairenn | Vladinator: we were down for a few minutes there |
| 14:24.18 | Kaelten | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info21471.html |
| 14:24.21 | Kaelten | :D |
| 14:24.30 | Vladinator | oGlow needs one line to be edited to work with MoP, Ranged slot frame nil error ;) @Cairenn it's okay :3 |
| 14:24.52 | Cairenn | Which one would you rather I have on the Survival Guide? |
| 14:25.01 | Cairenn | I can change to OB4 if you want |
| 14:25.06 | Kaelten | OB3 |
| 14:25.12 | Kaelten | OB4 isn't quiet ready for prime time yet |
| 14:25.16 | Vladinator | oh gawd, I guess Genie broke definetly this path :( |
| 14:25.17 | Cairenn | Just left it at OB3 because I knew you were still just in early ... yeah |
| 14:25.45 | Kaelten | trying to get some graphics made so I can have some snazzy looks |
| 14:25.50 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 14:26.16 | nevcairiel | do what combuctor does, make it look like a wow frame :p |
| 14:26.30 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: have no desire to do that. thanks though :) |
| 14:26.44 | nevcairiel | any artificial frame just look crappy |
| 14:26.59 | Kaelten | na, I just need some button textures, not a frame border |
| 14:29.06 | Vladinator | (fyi Genie works, it's an epic sorting addon :D) |
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| 14:30.49 | Dagmar | Yay skullduggery... I just got a password reset email from Arenanet. |
| 14:31.02 | Dagmar | I certainly didn't request a password reset |
| 14:31.31 | Fisker | hey Kaelten |
| 14:31.36 | Fisker | is curse premium in us date format? |
| 14:31.56 | Kalroth | is there such a thing as a non-US date format?! |
| 14:31.59 | Kaelten | Fisker: not sure |
| 14:32.05 | Fisker | :O |
| 14:32.24 | Fisker | when did curse premium launch 5th of january or 1st may? :P |
| 14:33.02 | durcyn | YYYY-MM-DD or go to hell |
| 14:33.16 | Fisker | DD-MM-YYYY is fine too |
| 14:33.41 | durcyn | dolby: is wowi svn meant to be refusing connections again? |
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| 14:37.30 | mitch0 | Fisker: is not |
| 14:37.31 | Cairenn | DD-month-YYYY or DD-month-YY |
| 14:38.19 | nevcairiel | spelled out month works too |
| 14:38.32 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 14:43.19 | Stanzilla | something is tainting the shit out of my ui |
| 14:43.30 | nevcairiel | less shit = more better? |
| 14:43.36 | Stanzilla | not quite |
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| 15:05.00 | Vladinator | Xinhuan: I hope you update XLoot1.0 ^^ |
| 15:05.11 | nevcairiel | wrong person with X |
| 15:05.34 | Vladinator | Xuerian* |
| 15:05.37 | Vladinator | he isn't on :< |
| 15:05.37 | Xinhuan | that would be Xuerian |
| 15:05.39 | Xinhuan | :P |
| 15:05.44 | Xinhuan | i did just update Omen |
| 15:05.45 | Cairenn | heh |
| 15:05.56 | Xinhuan | oh right, i forgot to upload to wowi |
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| 15:06.38 | Vladinator | the travel form glyphed dances something scottish :3 |
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| 15:07.48 | Cairenn | Torhal: ping? |
| 15:07.55 | Torhal | Cairenn: pong |
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| 15:21.15 | Vladinator | IsInGroup() does it return true if in a raid? IsInParty doesn't exist... |
| 15:21.36 | Vladinator | replacing "GetNumPartyMembers() > 0" but not sure if IsInGroup() is the right API to use :P |
| 15:22.02 | MysticalOS | IsInRaid() |
| 15:22.33 | MysticalOS | will say if raid or not, if not raid, but GetNumGroupMembers() still > 0, it's a party |
| 15:22.34 | Vladinator | Sorry MysticalOS, try again. :P |
| 15:22.51 | Vladinator | so IsInGroup checks for any type of group? |
| 15:22.51 | nevcairiel | find a friend, create a raid, test? |
| 15:22.53 | nevcairiel | :p |
| 15:22.57 | Vladinator | no friends :P |
| 15:23.03 | Vladinator | haven't played for a year xD |
| 15:23.09 | karl_w_w | what is a friend? |
| 15:23.17 | Unkle | HILARIOUS - http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/yxx3m/suspensions_for_offensive_names_and_inappropriate/ |
| 15:23.24 | nevcairiel | speaking of friends, i loved the blue post comment they made |
| 15:23.38 | Vladinator | why doesn't IsInParty exist? |
| 15:23.47 | nevcairiel | (Please note: if friends are not available to you at the time, two will be provided. Batteries not included. Subject to change. Void where prohibited.) |
| 15:23.55 | Vladinator | IsInParty = function() return not IsInRaid() and GetNumGroupMembers() > 0 end |
| 15:24.04 | karl_w_w | because if you're in a group you're always in a party |
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| 15:24.14 | MysticalOS | party is true even in raid |
| 15:24.19 | nevcairiel | you're just guessing that IsInGroup does not do what you want |
| 15:24.21 | kagaro | Esamynn|Away you were looking for me? |
| 15:24.28 | nevcairiel | so just go test it and stop guessing |
| 15:24.36 | Kraps | welp |
| 15:24.39 | Vladinator | I assume IsInGroup is true for parties and raids, but I wish to only limit it to parties, not raids :P |
| 15:24.41 | Kraps | im in! |
| 15:24.47 | Vladinator | just confirming this with the rest |
| 15:24.53 | nevcairiel | like i said, guessing |
| 15:24.57 | Kraps | the launcher doesnt work though |
| 15:25.15 | Vladinator | can't test it, so I wait until someone else does, apparently :P |
| 15:26.21 | Kraps | lemme try rebooting |
| 15:26.24 | Vladinator | yes, Blizz even uses "IsInGroup() and not IsInRaid()" to check for this, okay. |
| 15:27.10 | karl_w_w | that's because that would be perfectly logical |
| 15:27.18 | MysticalOS | that only tells you that your grouped. nothing more. it's true in party or raid |
| 15:27.32 | karl_w_w | no wait, in Blizzard's case, they use that method in spite of it being perfectly logical |
| 15:27.36 | MysticalOS | if you need to tell diff yu have to use IsInRaid() |
| 15:30.04 | Vladinator | IsInGroup() and not IsInRaid() = true in party, false in raid |
| 15:30.27 | Vladinator | is it me or the world going crazy atm? :P |
| 15:30.45 | karl_w_w | it's you. |
| 15:30.53 | Vladinator | awesome! |
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| 15:32.34 | karl_w_w | shouldnt you be asleeping bluipodcow? |
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| 15:32.58 | bluspacecow | i r working :P |
| 15:33.05 | wereHamster | "Failed to open a required file. Check your internet connection". Dat logic. Blizzard at its finest. |
| 15:33.30 | bluspacecow | check logs to find out _which_ file of course |
| 15:33.36 | bluspacecow | probably something in battle.net folder \ Agent |
| 15:33.41 | Vladinator | karl_w_w and MysticalOS, I think you are both wrong :P |
| 15:33.42 | bluspacecow | or battle.net \ Launcher |
| 15:34.05 | wereHamster | battle.net/setup/wow_engb/setuposx.mpq. But what does it have to do with my internet connection? |
| 15:34.12 | karl_w_w | I'm always wrong. |
| 15:34.18 | bluspacecow | :| |
| 15:34.26 | bluspacecow | that's what's missing ? |
| 15:34.27 | Vladinator | IsInGroup() is true when party or raid. IsInRaid() is true only when in raid ;) |
| 15:34.33 | bluspacecow | try paatchup.info |
| 15:34.47 | karl_w_w | <Vladinator> IsInGroup() is true when party or raid. IsInRaid() is true only when in raid ;) <- duh? |
| 15:34.48 | bluspacecow | @vlad I haven't spoken about IsInGroup() |
| 15:34.57 | Vladinator | I have :P |
| 15:35.11 | bluspacecow | oh wait |
| 15:35.14 | bluspacecow | nvm nvm |
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| 15:38.22 | karl_w_w | "I also have a boyfriend, and we plan on getting engaged soon." an impossible statement |
| 15:38.50 | nevcairiel | maybe she plans, but he doesnt know! |
| 15:38.51 | Lopeppeppy | In what way? |
| 15:38.56 | Unkle | "plan on getting engaged" is code for "he won't commit." |
| 15:39.19 | karl_w_w | if both plan to get engaged, they're already engaged |
| 15:39.37 | Dagmar | Hm.... Someone seems to be walking a list of email addresses past ArenaNet's password reset system |
| 15:39.40 | Lopeppeppy | No, they may be waiting on $$ to buy the ring to make it formal. |
| 15:40.15 | karl_w_w | a ring makes it formal? |
| 15:40.23 | karl_w_w | engagement is a formal arrangement now? |
| 15:40.34 | Dagmar | Depends on how WASP-y you are |
| 15:41.05 | Dagmar | Freakin' MMOC's post validator is pretty darned aggressive about spotting URLs and email addresses |
| 15:41.55 | Dagmar | I just had to redact part of the SPF headers on an email |
| 15:42.07 | Unkle | If you've asked someone to marry you, and they've said yes, does it really matter if you shelled out for a diamond? If it does, are you sure you're marrying the right person? |
| 15:42.40 | Lopeppeppy | a lot of if's there. |
| 15:42.51 | karl_w_w | diamond? she should be glad to get a larger than average salt crystal |
| 15:42.57 | Dagmar | Hey, keep in mind, when you marry someone, you're not just marrying that person. You're marrying that person and all the relatives they've ever been related to. |
| 15:43.03 | Unkle | Sadly, required to make my point. |
| 15:43.12 | Vladinator | curious why they didn't also create IsInParty when they did add IsInRaid ^^ |
| 15:43.22 | karl_w_w | I already told you Vladinator |
| 15:43.34 | Vladinator | yeah |
| 15:43.39 | Vladinator | but they gotta write it longer |
| 15:43.40 | Lopeppeppy | I did not get a ring. but I darned well got a formal question and answer set up. |
| 15:43.48 | karl_w_w | because IsInParty would always be true when IsInGroup is true |
| 15:44.03 | karl_w_w | and always false when it's false |
| 15:44.11 | karl_w_w | I'm sure I could have said that in less words |
| 15:44.14 | Vladinator | nope |
| 15:44.39 | Unkle | Lopeppeppy *nod* I'm just saying that engagment is the agreement to marry. Planning to agree to marry is a silly state of affairs. |
| 15:44.44 | Vladinator | IsInParty would return true when in a party and not in a raid, and false when in a raid, while IsInGroup is true regardless of the type of group ;) |
| 15:44.58 | nevcairiel | You want it to do that, but thats not how party has been defined in the past |
| 15:45.07 | nevcairiel | besides, a raid is always a great party |
| 15:45.09 | karl_w_w | but you are always in a party |
| 15:45.27 | karl_w_w | whether that party is part of a raid or not is a different matter |
| 15:45.53 | Vladinator | a group = party or raid, a party = party (5 man max), a raid = >5 man |
| 15:46.03 | Vladinator | I thought we all used the same definition for these words :( |
| 15:46.13 | karl_w_w | you thought wrong :D |
| 15:46.14 | nevcairiel | we used the definition blizzard used |
| 15:46.20 | nevcairiel | and thats group = party |
| 15:46.21 | nevcairiel | :p |
| 15:46.43 | Vladinator | so what do you call a group that is not a raid? :P |
| 15:47.02 | karl_w_w | a group |
| 15:47.13 | karl_w_w | or a party, if you prefer |
| 15:47.15 | Vladinator | and a group that is a raid? |
| 15:47.18 | nevcairiel | a raid |
| 15:47.21 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 15:47.28 | Vladinator | so why is IsInGroup true when in a raid? :P |
| 15:47.34 | nevcairiel | because its also a group |
| 15:47.42 | Xinhuan | because, a raid consists of as many as 8 groups |
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| 15:48.28 | Vladinator | so why doesn't IsInGroup take an argument? :P |
| 15:48.36 | Vladinator | to differ between the two kinds |
| 15:48.49 | nevcairiel | because there is IsInRaid so you can check? |
| 15:49.10 | Vladinator | yeah, so you gotta combine two API when they could have made it one :( |
| 15:49.24 | nevcairiel | boolean arguments are always rather bad design, tbh |
| 15:49.27 | Kraps | did you know that if the desktop has a shortcut, and you pin that to the start menu, then you delete the desktop shortcut, the pinned one wont work? |
| 15:49.30 | nevcairiel | it generally means the function does two things |
| 15:49.34 | nevcairiel | so might as well make two functions |
| 15:49.35 | Unkle | ^^ |
| 15:49.37 | Vladinator | ye Krasp ^^ |
| 15:49.52 | Kraps | lame |
| 15:50.10 | karl_w_w | the api call would be IsInGroupThatIsntARaid() |
| 15:50.13 | Vladinator | btw about the group/party/raid I think it's most ligical to use party when you mean a group and not a raid, it's something that carries from all the way from vanilla :P |
| 15:50.16 | karl_w_w | which seems silly |
| 15:50.27 | Vladinator | IsInParty makes perfect sense for me :P |
| 15:50.52 | nevcairiel | I would expect that function to return true when i'm in a raid |
| 15:50.59 | Kraps | i moved the shortcut to the wow folder /shrug |
| 15:51.06 | Vladinator | yes, but you'd learn it doesn't :D |
| 15:51.10 | karl_w_w | <nevcairiel> I would expect that function to return true when i'm in a raid <- likewise |
| 15:51.17 | Vladinator | so you'd use IsInGroup instead for those kind of logics ^^ |
| 15:51.29 | karl_w_w | IsInGroup is new-fangled |
| 15:51.36 | nevcairiel | why create an extra function that is just IsInGroup and not IsInRaid? |
| 15:51.40 | nevcairiel | rather wasteful :p |
| 15:52.01 | Vladinator | wasteful yes, whole kilobytes of memory :3 |
| 15:52.13 | nevcairiel | without any added functionality |
| 15:52.15 | Vladinator | I see blizz use the X and not WHY statement a lot, could have saved some typing ^^ |
| 15:52.58 | Vladinator | don't worry, I'll live. just interesting about the group/party/raid definitions :3 |
| 15:53.03 | nevcairiel | there is plenty of stuff that just wants to know if you're in some kind of group, so there is IsInGroup |
| 15:53.15 | nevcairiel | then there is plenty of stuff that wants to know if you're in a raid, so IsInRaid |
| 15:53.31 | nevcairiel | knowing if you're in a 5man group but not a raid is somewhat of a rare occurance |
| 15:54.01 | Vladinator | it's just since the dawn of WoW party was always used for parties (5 man), and raid for raids, and groups for parties inside raids :P |
| 15:54.12 | Vladinator | somewhere along the way these changed, hehe :3 |
| 15:54.21 | Vladinator | I am still kind of old school you know |
| 15:54.26 | nevcairiel | party was the name for the groups in raids as well, at least in the API |
| 15:54.42 | karl_w_w | and everywhere else |
| 15:55.03 | Vladinator | I like the current API better than before, before it was kind of confusing, real parties, raids, and such, lots of lame API calls and two for loops to go trough a group :P |
| 15:55.11 | Vladinator | did they add a unit type "group#"? |
| 15:55.22 | Vladinator | if they did it would be nice for going trough whole groups :P |
| 15:55.24 | nevcairiel | most likely still party1 |
| 15:55.52 | Vladinator | I also wish party1 was you, but nooo, gotta make more code to specifically handle the player, unlike raids where you are a part of the raid# :P |
| 15:56.40 | Vladinator | btw you know what would be cooler, if they made it so when you drag a pet from the list in your bags, it became an item ;) |
| 15:56.43 | Vladinator | (auto caged) |
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| 15:57.34 | Vladinator | by the way it's still buggy? I expected it to be a beta thing. I got 3 alliance baloons, 2 chickens, 2 blue clockwork robots, 3 jousters, and so forth... |
| 15:57.50 | Vladinator | like I got two of the rare pets so I can AH one for a lot of money lol :P |
| 15:58.27 | Vladinator | got 5 westfall chickens :P |
| 15:59.26 | karl_w_w | you get one for each toon that had the pet |
| 15:59.35 | Dagmar | Yeah but you can basically go get more of those any time you like |
| 15:59.37 | Vladinator | ye, but the system says the limit is max 3 of the same pet ^^ |
| 15:59.53 | Vladinator | (max 500 total and max 3 per pet) |
| 16:01.08 | Vladinator | going to eat! :D |
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| 16:02.25 | mckenziemc | hey blubipodcow |
| 16:02.34 | sidji | "The migration was allowed to exceed the limit." |
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| 16:04.12 | mckenziemc | exceeds bluipodcow's limit. |
| 16:05.19 | karl_w_w | truncates mckenziemc |
| 16:05.48 | mckenziemc | bleeds to death. |
| 16:07.47 | karl_w_w | sells mckenziemc's organs on the black market |
| 16:08.04 | mckenziemc | 's organs are worth nothing even on the black market |
| 16:09.03 | Humbedooh | yes, mckenziemc is very cheap |
| 16:09.28 | Unkle | mckenziemc It's the booze and unprotected sex that has runined them. |
| 16:09.59 | mckenziemc | i've had neither o.o |
| 16:10.06 | mckenziemc | unless someone's been using my body while i sleep :O |
| 16:10.23 | Unkle | Oh sorry, I was thinking about why my organs aren't worth much on the black market. |
| 16:11.04 | Lopeppeppy | "Tell me why, oh why, are my genetics such a bitch?!" |
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| 16:12.08 | TC-Work | ~pong |
| 16:12.09 | purl | ~ping |
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| 16:14.27 | Kraps | will addons need to be updated when mop hits? |
| 16:14.45 | Cairenn | lol |
| 16:14.58 | Kraps | :( |
| 16:15.00 | Xinhuan | nop already hit about 18 hours ago ^^ |
| 16:15.21 | Xinhuan | mop |
| 16:15.31 | Unkle | Kraps - addons which have been updated for 5.0.4 are already MoP compatible. |
| 16:15.33 | Kraps | hey i dont know all the technicalities ok? |
| 16:15.35 | Xinhuan | Cairenn was supposed to go to sleep! |
| 16:15.44 | Fisker | hey Kraps |
| 16:15.48 | Fisker | not hey Xinhuan |
| 16:15.50 | Xinhuan | truth be told, a lot of addons still work in MoP without updating |
| 16:15.50 | Cairenn | Xinhuan: I did say -hopefully- |
| 16:16.04 | Arrowmaster | anybody else watch the interview with the apple vs samsung jury foreman? |
| 16:16.05 | nevcairiel | isnt it like the middle of the day for you now |
| 16:16.08 | Unkle | Cairenn sleep is good for what ails ya. |
| 16:16.30 | Cairenn | yeah, it's 12:16pm here now |
| 16:18.10 | karl_w_w | some addons might break in mists |
| 16:18.52 | karl_w_w | ones tied to character level and such |
| 16:19.30 | neutronimity | Where is the background download :( |
| 16:19.55 | Kraps | cant decide if the mount and pet are worth 20 extra dollars |
| 16:20.50 | Fisker | why haven't i been ddos'd yet nevcairiel ? |
| 16:21.35 | karl_w_w | Fisker we tried but your internets are bigger than all the other internets put together |
| 16:21.46 | Fisker | :/ |
| 16:21.58 | Fisker | but it was supposed to be 50Gb/s |
| 16:22.18 | Kraps | wowi is database erroring |
| 16:22.31 | Kraps | nvm |
| 16:25.10 | Cairenn | Kraps: yeah, Dolby's on it :) |
| 16:25.16 | Cairenn | But thanks for the heads up :) |
| 16:26.52 | Fisker | dolby surround sound |
| 16:27.00 | Kraps | damn potentially no carbonite update? |
| 16:27.19 | Dark_Elf | there is fan update |
| 16:27.21 | Cairenn | nothing yet, but another user has tossed up a fix |
| 16:27.39 | Dark_Elf | i know the minion is broken |
| 16:27.56 | Cairenn | Kraps: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=260656&postcount=69 |
| 16:28.18 | Dark_Elf | so i went back to questguru tell it gets fixed |
| 16:29.31 | Fisker | so apple is making a windows phone: http://cdn0.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/5216029/samsungwp8_640_large_verge_medium_landscape.jpg |
| 16:29.52 | Stanzilla | anyone else getting "could not connect to tracker" on patching wow? |
| 16:30.08 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 16:30.12 | Fisker | nope.mp4 |
| 16:30.12 | Stanzilla | hey |
| 16:30.18 | Kraps | Cairenn, is it feasible to add an indicator in the favorites list showing what version of wow the addon was made for? |
| 16:30.41 | mckenziemc | ~8ball |
| 16:30.41 | purl | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: Concentrate and ask again |
| 16:30.53 | Kraps | ok here goes: |
| 16:30.56 | Kraps | :p |
| 16:30.57 | Fisker | you're not missing out though Stanzilla |
| 16:31.00 | Fisker | can't login :( |
| 16:31.21 | Cairenn | that's odd ... looking at my favourites list, I can see which ones were updated for 4.3, but it isn't showing the patch numbers for any before (or after) |
| 16:31.24 | mckenziemc | that's because it's impossible to login |
| 16:31.45 | karl_w_w | logging in was removed in 5.0.4 |
| 16:31.57 | Kraps | oh right Cairenn i see that |
| 16:32.01 | Cairenn | I'll ask dolby to look at possibly adding it |
| 16:32.07 | karl_w_w | Blizzard decided it lead to too many problems |
| 16:32.09 | Kraps | cool thanks! |
| 16:32.31 | Mr_Rabies | ugh |
| 16:32.45 | Mr_Rabies | these constant email reset request emails for my guild wars account are getting annoying |
| 16:32.52 | Mr_Rabies | er password reset |
| 16:33.13 | Cairenn | however, it's a pretty good bet that if it's been updated in the last couple/few weeks, it's probably 5.0.4 ready |
| 16:34.26 | Fisker | i'm hoping this addon from 2008 still works for 5.0.4 |
| 16:34.48 | durcyn | as long as it doesn't use group or talent functions, there's no reason it shouldn't |
| 16:34.53 | Fisker | :'( |
| 16:34.57 | Fisker | spoilsport |
| 16:35.11 | karl_w_w | or pretty much any other functions |
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| 16:36.45 | olafski_ | is the magic rooster rare? I see one for 200k gold on my realm |
| 16:37.06 | karl_w_w | yeah it is |
| 16:37.12 | karl_w_w | I've only ever seen one |
| 16:37.29 | olafski | 200k sounds reasonable then? I don't want a hacked item |
| 16:37.45 | Fisker | doesn't matter it'll be hacked anyway lol |
| 16:38.02 | olafski | well that sucks =( would be a cool one to have |
| 16:38.11 | olafski | I think I bought a hacked crimson deathcharger too, that one didn't get removed |
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| 16:39.33 | Mr_Rabies | arenanet's response to the password change emails is "well, if you're still getting the emails that means no one's in your account yet" |
| 16:39.44 | durcyn | Stanzilla: you reverted my commit? |
| 16:39.48 | Mr_Rabies | nevermind that some people are getting 30+ a day |
| 16:39.58 | Stanzilla | durcyn: no? |
| 16:40.08 | durcyn | the r235 zip doesn't have it |
| 16:40.14 | Stanzilla | the fuck |
| 16:40.34 | durcyn | or it merged weird, somewhere |
| 16:40.42 | durcyn | both loops are there |
| 16:40.55 | Stanzilla | guess the merge went wrong then |
| 16:41.13 | Stanzilla | can you fix? I'm like super busy with thousands of people asking me for addon help |
| 16:41.39 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: They *need* to add a captcha to that damn thing as well as make it stop giving success/fail messages |
| 16:41.51 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 16:42.41 | Mr_Rabies | i've been at a highered state of paranoia between two debit card frauds and all the recent account compromises |
| 16:42.48 | Mr_Rabies | so |
| 16:42.54 | Mr_Rabies | these occasional emails aren't helping much |
| 16:42.55 | Mr_Rabies | :< |
| 16:43.05 | Mr_Rabies | i find myself checking my gmail access log at least once an hour now |
| 16:45.21 | olafski | oh well went and bought it anyway, we'll see what happens :P |
| 16:47.49 | Arrowmaster | im trying to check my old email through one of the webmails installed on the server to see if ive been getting any from my old account |
| 16:47.57 | Arrowmaster | its so slow |
| 16:48.44 | Arrowmaster | and the host probably hates me, the inbox has 80000 unread emails in it |
| 16:50.05 | Kraps | icehud i missed you! |
| 16:51.16 | Arrowmaster | ive tried 2 of the 3 webmail services they have installed on this box, squirelmail and horde, both are failing to load my huge inbox |
| 16:55.40 | TC-Work | err..when did freshmeat -> freecode? |
| 16:55.54 | durcyn | ~seen jnwhiteh |
| 16:55.57 | purl | jnwhiteh is currently on #wowprogramming #wowhead #wowuidev #wowace. Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 3d 21h 23m 42s, last said: 'we move on the 4th'. |
| 16:56.09 | Arrowmaster | TC-Work: i think it happened sometime this year, maybe last |
| 16:58.20 | Kraps | what does it mean when a pet is greyed out |
| 17:01.24 | Unkle | kraps in the pet journal? means you don't know that one. |
| 17:01.56 | Kraps | how do i get the training |
| 17:02.10 | Kraps | to actually battle |
| 17:02.29 | nevcairiel | you wait for mop |
| 17:02.33 | nevcairiel | then you visit a trainer |
| 17:02.45 | Kraps | ohhhhh |
| 17:03.04 | durcyn | you read patch notes, then you ask anyway and piss everyone off for a month |
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| 17:03.37 | Kraps | hey i'm only asking once |
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| 17:07.01 | Torhal | Kraps: Don't mind durcyn - it isn't personal, he hates everyone. |
| 17:07.13 | Torhal | Well, it MIGHT be personal, I'm just assuming. |
| 17:07.33 | Shadowed | play nice |
| 17:07.34 | durcyn | it's not hate, it's disdain, sir |
| 17:07.50 | Torhal | Ah, I stand corrected. |
| 17:07.56 | Unkle | Torhal for me it's always personal. My hatreds are deep and personal and unique to each person in the world. |
| 17:07.59 | Torhal | Shadowed: Who wasn't playing nice? |
| 17:08.08 | Torhal | Unkle: I'll drink to that. |
| 17:08.09 | Kraps | i disdain u |
| 17:08.10 | Shadowed | Didn't look very nice to me |
| 17:08.12 | Shadowed | however |
| 17:08.14 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Torhal!~Shadowed@li227-250.members.linode.com] by Shadowed (Torhal) |
| 17:08.31 | Shadowed | that's for the curse client and EUs posting tickets |
| 17:08.32 | Unkle | Now who isn't playing nice? :P |
| 17:08.45 | Shadowed | fully justified |
| 17:09.06 | End_ | kick him again for curse giving me a Server Error |
| 17:09.11 | End_ | when he comes back |
| 17:09.21 | Shadowed | WoWIs doing that too |
| 17:09.31 | End_ | oh grr is it |
| 17:09.46 | End_ | well at least I'm not wondering what someone literally just posted on wowi |
| 17:10.00 | End_ | there it goes |
| 17:10.28 | Kraps | haha the numbers on abilities now have commas |
| 17:10.58 | Kraps | health bar too |
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| 17:21.03 | olafski | man john carmack is crazy.. watching his quakecon 2012 keynote now (yes, late :P) |
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| 17:25.59 | Arrowmaster | i think somebody was using my old email address as a spam relay, i got into the webmail and it was getting mail delivery failure messages every few minutes, mostly about exceeding 200 messages a day, so i changed the password and theyve stopped coming in |
| 17:27.09 | durcyn | sounded like a joe job until you said it stopped on a password change |
| 17:29.10 | foxlit | oh fs. |
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| 17:29.23 | foxlit | Why did they have to break /cast Companion Name? |
| 17:29.37 | nevcairiel | isnt there a new command |
| 17:30.08 | foxlit | That doesn't really answer the question |
| 17:30.26 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:30.49 | foxlit | They also seem to have killed any way to determine whether a pet is on cooldown. |
| 17:31.50 | durcyn | do you have an identical item in your item cache? |
| 17:32.04 | durcyn | macro /use or /cast defaults to inventory |
| 17:32.29 | foxlit | I might have purple elephants in my cache, but that still doesn't explain the error message. |
| 17:33.16 | End_ | there's not a new command I know of |
| 17:33.57 | End_ | and yeah it'll say you don't have a pet or already have a pet or something confusing like that |
| 17:34.07 | durcyn | i'm not saying the error message is even relevant, that's just the only failure mode i'm aware of for pet or mount in macros |
| 17:34.34 | End_ | you'll get the same error from CallCompanion |
| 17:34.45 | durcyn | both of the two digital deluxe/collectors items they sent yesterday are named the same as the spells they grant, so trying to /use them will attempt to use the item instead of the spell, even after it's learned |
| 17:35.13 | Fisker | doesn't the item consume on use? |
| 17:35.18 | End_ | C_PetJournal.SummonPetByID is the only way to summon non-combat pets now |
| 17:35.24 | durcyn | yep, it's still in the cache though |
| 17:35.36 | Fisker | so learn pets then clear cache |
| 17:35.49 | Fisker | releasing the ptes now is a dick move though |
| 17:36.20 | znf | wtf |
| 17:36.30 | foxlit | In any case, name collision with items is not an issue. You may add another thing to your list of failure modes, durcyn. |
| 17:36.30 | znf | Mr. Robot just told me to reforge to expertise |
| 17:36.42 | olafski | znf: hunter? :) |
| 17:36.48 | znf | no... Shadow Priest |
| 17:36.53 | olafski | oh.. yeah those too I guess |
| 17:36.56 | olafski | or was it just hunters :s |
| 17:37.05 | durcyn | expertise is still just for physical, no? |
| 17:37.12 | olafski | hm yeah I guess so, my bad, ignore me =) |
| 17:37.21 | End_ | expertise gives some spell hit I think now? |
| 17:37.32 | End_ | which rather strange |
| 17:37.50 | znf | Yes it's only for physical :D |
| 17:38.07 | durcyn | znf: you should drop some hit though, seing as the cap's lowered |
| 17:38.26 | znf | durcyn, that's what I'm doing |
| 17:38.45 | Kraps | even the damage and xp numbers have commas, its surprisingly jarring |
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| 17:47.37 | neutronimity | 8/29 19:46:38.253 Client initiated Disconnect from 213.248.127.130 |
| 17:47.38 | neutronimity | 8/29 19:46:38.335 GRUNT: state: LOGIN_STATE_DISCONNECTED result: LOGIN_OK |
| 17:47.40 | neutronimity | What the fuck! |
| 17:47.59 | neutronimity | Client .. initiated disconnect? I certainly did not! What an outrage!! |
| 17:49.12 | Fisker | old neutronimity |
| 17:50.50 | znf | Shadowed, how come some NPCs are "failing" the rangecheck with friendly-spells, like Renew for Priests (which is auto-used), but I also tried with other spells and they're still faded :-/ |
| 17:51.04 | Shadowed | Blizzard hates you |
| 17:51.21 | haste | exactly this ^ |
| 17:51.43 | znf | Ok, let me rephrase it: Is there anything I can do about it? |
| 17:51.56 | znf | (other than turning off the out-of-range fade) |
| 17:52.03 | Shadowed | nope! |
| 17:52.20 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 17:52.22 | Fisker | i like you |
| 17:52.44 | haste | coolios Fisker ! |
| 17:56.10 | nevcairiel | The big riddle for today, tell me how this error is possible: http://pastebin.com/4BrjSH5m |
| 17:56.52 | nevcairiel | a bunch of lines of blizzard code, which errors at line 1021, however looking at the error it produces, how the hell did it pass through the previous lines? |
| 17:57.52 | End_ | The only thing I can think of is an OnHide doing something, but that seems highly unlikely to be the case |
| 17:57.59 | nevcairiel | oh and Check and Uncheck have no OnHides |
| 17:58.10 | End_ | I am not surprise and I am also stumped |
| 17:58.14 | bluworkcow | magic! |
| 17:58.26 | nevcairiel | also, "userdata"? really? |
| 17:58.33 | nevcairiel | seems like C is playing tricks on me |
| 17:59.02 | nevcairiel | wonder if its limited to the 64-bit client |
| 18:01.43 | End_ | I can think of other scenarios that could legitimately allow that to happen, aside from there being absolutely no legitimate reason to do that sort of thing |
| 18:02.17 | nevcairiel | happens on 32-bit too |
| 18:02.24 | End_ | well |
| 18:03.32 | End_ | no that's dumb I won't suggest it |
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| 18:06.25 | Mr_Rabies | huh |
| 18:06.28 | Mr_Rabies | this is the weirdest thing |
| 18:06.29 | Kraps | is there a hotkey thats shows your fps? |
| 18:06.35 | Mr_Rabies | my guild master's DBM is just refusing to work |
| 18:06.39 | nevcairiel | Kraps: ctrl-r |
| 18:07.59 | Kraps | is there a way to move it? |
| 18:08.32 | znf | no |
| 18:08.34 | nevcairiel | probably with a small code snippet |
| 18:08.57 | znf | /framestack |
| 18:09.02 | znf | see what's it called |
| 18:09.17 | bluworkcow | heh you know the necoring is bad when you say the name of a former employee as starting the thread. |
| 18:09.27 | bluworkcow | *see |
| 18:09.48 | znf | Then the WhateverFrame:SetPoint bla bla |
| 18:10.15 | End_ | it's not a frame but a font string |
| 18:10.20 | End_ | FramerateLabel |
| 18:10.30 | End_ | it's attached to WorldFrame |
| 18:11.15 | znf | meh, I'm stuck on the loading screen zoning in Caverns of Time |
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| 18:20.13 | Subspace | How much use of SendAddonMessage is enough for blizz to think your spamming? |
| 18:20.37 | nevcairiel | If you ask that question, you're doing something wrong |
| 18:20.49 | Subspace | I'm writing an addon that will sometimes have it sending once every ~5 sec or so |
| 18:20.58 | Subspace | For a period of maybe a few mins |
| 18:21.16 | Subspace | I havent really used it yet. |
| 18:21.27 | nevcairiel | one message every 5 seconds is ok |
| 18:21.28 | Subspace | Except for basic tests, which havent triggered anything |
| 18:22.18 | F16Gaming | you'd have to reach several hundreds per second to get kicked for spamming i think |
| 18:22.30 | Subspace | Oh, ok |
| 18:22.35 | Subspace | I should be nowhere near there |
| 18:22.37 | F16Gaming | depends on the size of message as well IIRC |
| 18:22.42 | Subspace | Oh really? |
| 18:22.44 | Subspace | Hmm |
| 18:22.49 | Arrowmaster | unless the addon messages are going to individual players, you probably arent going to send enough messages that they consider it spamming |
| 18:22.56 | nevcairiel | there is a length limit for one individual message anyway |
| 18:23.04 | Subspace | Probably average 150-200 char or so |
| 18:23.14 | F16Gaming | i sent something around 1200 RandomRoll()s per seconds and stayed online for about 3 seconds before kick |
| 18:23.27 | Subspace | I will send to "BATTLEGROUP" most likely, or "PARTY" |
| 18:25.07 | Subspace | Most I can think of is 2 msgs per second |
| 18:25.16 | Subspace | Thats absolute worst case |
| 18:26.03 | Subspace | Thanks a bunch for the info. |
| 18:34.16 | Esamynn|work | Subspace: yah you're probably fine |
| 18:34.30 | Subspace | :) |
| 18:34.43 | Esamynn|work | btw, the length limit for addon messages is the same as chat messages, just know that the prefix, plus the dividing character (a tab) are included in the limit |
| 18:35.14 | bluworkcow | home.food.sleep.tiems |
| 18:35.35 | Subspace | So lengh of msg = 255 - prefixSize - 1 ? |
| 18:35.43 | Esamynn|work | yup |
| 18:35.48 | Subspace | cool |
| 18:36.34 | Subspace | Can I use the tab char code in my msg? |
| 18:36.45 | Subspace | I read I can't use 0 (NULL), but is tab fine? |
| 18:39.04 | Fisker | it's hot in here blu |
| 18:39.06 | Fisker | damnit |
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| 18:41.09 | Kraps | i have a cold Fisker |
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| 18:42.00 | Xinhuan | you can use anything but NULL |
| 18:42.17 | Esamynn|work | tab is fine, just not in the prefix |
| 18:42.37 | Esamynn|work | (for obvious reasons) |
| 18:42.49 | Xinhuan | you also cannot use TAB in your prefix, because the prefix is separated from the message by a \t |
| 18:43.04 | Esamynn|work | hears an echo |
| 18:43.16 | Xinhuan | did kagaro get back to you |
| 18:43.31 | Xinhuan | he was on 3 hours ago for 5 hours :P |
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| 18:43.37 | Esamynn|work | nah, I haven't reached out to him yet |
| 18:43.42 | Xinhuan | 7 even |
| 18:43.53 | Esamynn|work | we're good at missing each other :) |
| 18:43.59 | Xinhuan | how's gatherer's new API |
| 18:44.27 | Esamynn|work | stable, but I haven't implemented the call back for adds/removes yet |
| 18:45.16 | foxlit | Esamynn|work: btw, the length limit for addon messages is the same as chat messages, just know that the prefix, plus the dividing character (a tab) are included in the limit << didn't that change? |
| 18:45.48 | Subspace | I see |
| 18:46.08 | Esamynn|work | foxlit: which the chat message limit? |
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| 18:46.22 | Esamynn|work | s/which/which?/ |
| 18:46.24 | foxlit | the SendAddonMessage character limit. |
| 18:46.42 | Esamynn|work | not to my knowledge, but I haven't actually checked since it was added |
| 18:48.11 | Xinhuan | i don't remember it changing |
| 18:49.19 | Esamynn|work | Xinhuan: I did cut all my non-user visible plans in order to make patch day, so I'm working on adding the stuff I cut now, at a more reasonable pace |
| 18:49.45 | Xinhuan | i'm not touching routes until all the dependencies are updated anyway :P |
| 18:50.03 | Esamynn|work | I'll likely add the API you need for route to the Gatherer.Api module in order to make it clear it is now stable and designed for public consumption |
| 18:50.16 | Xinhuan | which include numerous libs, and addons hehe |
| 18:50.17 | Kraps | skada vs recount, go |
| 18:50.21 | Kraps | :p |
| 18:50.27 | Esamynn|work | ~lart Kraps |
| 18:50.27 | purl | whips Kraps with a wet and grimy noodle just because |
| 18:50.36 | Esamynn|work | ~botsnack |
| 18:50.36 | purl | :), Esamynn|work |
| 18:50.51 | Semlar | don't feed the bots |
| 18:50.52 | Esamynn|work | how does purl always know the perfect reprimand? |
| 18:51.01 | Kraps | i only use them for good purposes! |
| 18:51.02 | Esamynn|work | ~whalenuke Semlar |
| 18:51.02 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Semlar with his mind powers. |
| 18:55.43 | Semlar | i'll give you something to get irradiated about.. |
| 18:58.28 | Esamynn|work | Semlar: bringit |
| 18:58.37 | Esamynn|work | s/bringit/bring it/ |
| 18:59.23 | Semlar | consider it brought |
| 18:59.49 | Esamynn|work | I'm getting nothing but hot air over here |
| 19:01.04 | Semlar | don't get too steamed up about it |
| 19:01.31 | Esamynn|work | ~frag Semlar |
| 19:01.31 | purl | ACTION readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at Semlar |
| 19:02.00 | Vladinator | ~seen Vladinator |
| 19:02.06 | purl | vladinator is currently on #wowhead (13h 5m 36s) #wowuidev (13h 5m 36s). Has said a total of 168 messages. Is idling for 6s, last said: '~seen Vladinator'. |
| 19:02.18 | Vladinator | seen-sception |
| 19:02.27 | Esamynn|work | has visions of the fat man launcher from Fallout |
| 19:02.29 | Esamynn|work | DING! |
| 19:02.37 | Semlar | fries are done |
| 19:03.24 | Vladinator | jesus really I can't stop thinking about party/raid/group LOL I hate you guys :P |
| 19:03.43 | Vladinator | I come back and tab into irc and I get instantly irritated just by the mere thoughts lol |
| 19:03.49 | Esamynn|work | Semlar: though purl probably has an Experimental MIRV |
| 19:04.11 | Esamynn|work | Vladinator: huh? wha? |
| 19:04.45 | Vladinator | earlier, about the api IsInGroup, IsInRaid, I suggested a IsInParty but there was some talk about definitions and such :P |
| 19:05.14 | Vladinator | but I still feel it's wrong >.< |
| 19:05.49 | Esamynn|work | I wasn't here for that, therefore it didn't happen |
| 19:05.52 | Esamynn|work | stop making things up |
| 19:05.52 | Semlar | semantics |
| 19:05.56 | Vladinator | lol :D |
| 19:07.44 | Vladinator | people doing anything fun? |
| 19:07.46 | *** part/#wowuidev mitchnull (~opera@2E6B3AE7.catv.pool.telekom.hu) |
| 19:08.05 | Esamynn|work | is working |
| 19:08.08 | Esamynn|work | really, I am! |
| 19:08.17 | Vladinator | it's when I am going to bed all the US come on to chat |
| 19:08.26 | Vladinator | otherwise the channel is on life support during my day :P |
| 19:08.41 | neutronimity | Should I be concerned if there are some entries in framexml.log like "8/29 21:02:19.970 QuestLogDetailInset: Couldn't find relative frame: QuestLogFrame", or "8/29 21:02:19.970 Frame PetBattlePrimaryUnitTooltip: Unknown script element OnClick" |
| 19:08.46 | Vladinator | where are all the european programmers hanging around? :( |
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| 19:09.48 | Esamynn|work | *cough* not from the US here |
| 19:10.02 | Vladinator | you work during the night? :( |
| 19:10.11 | Esamynn|work | ~fail Vladinator |
| 19:10.11 | purl | Vladinator: FAIL! |
| 19:10.33 | Vladinator | ~goldenshower Esamynn| |
| 19:10.46 | Vladinator | purl needs to learn :P |
| 19:11.02 | Esamynn|work | and, apparently, so do you :P |
| 19:11.31 | Vladinator | hey, I am not the psychopath who has several of me in the chat |
| 19:11.57 | Esamynn|work | work firewall, I can't get at my irc proxy :/ |
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| 19:12.18 | p3lim | Much traffic on WoWI? :p |
| 19:12.34 | Vladinator | I think someone is doing something on it |
| 19:12.50 | Esamynn|work | anways, no, I don't work at night and I'm not in/from the US |
| 19:14.49 | Vladinator | it's okay, you can be from other places in the world :P |
| 19:15.03 | Vladinator | my point was more that there aren't as many as I'd like from eu on wowi chat :( |
| 19:19.38 | Esamynn|work | and my point was, how would you like it if I picked a single country to represent everyone in the channel from Europe?.... say... France! |
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| 19:24.50 | mikma | http://i.imgur.com/vy2Ed.jpg |
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| 19:25.27 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/58a4M.jpg i may have made a slight miscalculation |
| 19:26.32 | Esamynn|work | Semlar: nah! looks good! |
| 19:26.38 | Humbedooh | a puzzle, whee |
| 19:29.12 | Maldivia | hmm... did blizzard fuck up with the x64 build or something? |
| 19:29.19 | Esamynn|work | how so? |
| 19:29.36 | Maldivia | it crashes when I enter world, where as 32-bit works fine |
| 19:29.51 | g0urra | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrhuaj540Aw |
| 19:30.02 | g0urra | Maldivia: works fine for me |
| 19:30.09 | g0urra | do you get a crash log? |
| 19:30.17 | Esamynn|work | windows or mac? |
| 19:30.21 | Maldivia | Win |
| 19:30.23 | Esamynn|work | (windows 64bit works for me) |
| 19:30.37 | Maldivia | The instruction at "0x000000013FD174A7" referenced memory at "0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF". |
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| 19:31.53 | g0urra | i need the whole log |
| 19:31.55 | g0urra | pastebin it |
| 19:33.03 | Amarande | btw, if you're using x64, did the 5.0 patch automagically know to install x64, or will it still stick with 32-bit if that was what you originally installed (which will be the case if you installed WoW pre-5.0, since it wasn't till something like 4.3.4 that we got a x64 WoW)? |
| 19:33.20 | Maldivia | Amarande: it has both |
| 19:33.35 | Amarande | ah, so if you're on a 64-bit OS, you now will default to 64-bit WoW? |
| 19:33.40 | Amarande | yay. |
| 19:33.52 | Amarande | although there was one advantage to 32-bit WoW on a 64-bit OS, as I remember from the Lich King days |
| 19:34.08 | Esamynn|work | oh? |
| 19:34.26 | Amarande | Esamynn: early in WOTLK there was a nasty bug where certain world-usable objects (cogwheel icon when moused over) |
| 19:34.39 | Amarande | would cause some kind of screwed up memory loop that didn't end until all available RAM was consumed by WoW |
| 19:34.39 | TinyCog | raises an eyebrow |
| 19:35.19 | Amarande | If you had 2GB or less RAM, it would crash your whole system due to total RAM starvation leaving the kernel with nowhere to go |
| 19:35.32 | Semlar | panic! |
| 19:35.34 | Esamynn|work | damn, cogwheel isn't here to punt |
| 19:35.42 | TinyCog | ~poke Esamynn|work |
| 19:35.42 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Esamynn|work, pokes Esamynn|work repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 19:36.02 | Amarande | However, if you had 3GB or more RAM (typically meaning a 64 bit OS), because WoW was a 32-bit only application at the time, WoW would crash but your system would stay up because it would not be able to take more than 2GB before getting an out of memory fault. |
| 19:36.07 | Esamynn|work | ~punt TinyCog |
| 19:36.07 | purl | ACTION sends TinyCog into a new timezone |
| 19:36.25 | TinyCog | <GlaDOS>Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee</GlaDOS> |
| 19:36.41 | Esamynn|work | Amarande: oh, was that the source of my crashes in LK? |
| 19:36.49 | Esamynn|work | no, no my issues was something else |
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| 19:37.00 | Esamynn|work | some problem with wow on XP x64 |
| 19:37.12 | Torhal | pelts Shadowed with EU tickets. |
| 19:37.15 | Amarande | So yeah, one advantage to 32-bit apps on a 64-bit system is that such an app can essentially never bring down the entire system via memory starvation, because 64-bit systems normally have significantly more RAM than a 32-bit process is allowed to use. |
| 19:37.42 | Esamynn|work | and even if they don't have more real ram, there is always swap |
| 19:37.44 | Amarande | Whereas a 64-bit app with such a bug will gleefully take all your RAM and cause kernel panic. |
| 19:40.40 | Maldivia | g0urra: hmm... interesting... I disabled an addon (saw some of its code in the error log), and now I can enter with the x64 client :P |
| 19:41.03 | neutronimity | While downloading through the WoW launcher, I keep losing my connection to the router, and it shows up as not identified network then, and I have no choice but to reset my wlan module, but the resetting also hanged multiple times. Wtf. |
| 19:41.12 | Stanzilla | anyone else here having SUFWrapperFrame blocking mouse action in combat? |
| 19:41.12 | g0urra | well yeah.. that's why I wanted the error log |
| 19:41.31 | neutronimity | My error log? |
| 19:42.01 | neutronimity | No no no I don't think you're referring to me :o |
| 19:42.02 | Amarande | Hrm. Do I bid a farewell to Firefox on the new hard drive, or not. :) |
| 19:42.12 | neutronimity | Chrome!!!!!!! |
| 19:42.17 | Amarande | Sadly, it seems that Mozilla have their priorities out of place :( |
| 19:42.32 | Maldivia | g0urra: still... an addon should be able to crash the client like that :) |
| 19:42.33 | Amarande | I asked in #firefox the other day about 64-bit Firefox, apparently they are instead giving priority to making a Metro app version of FF |
| 19:42.37 | Xinhuan | Amarande, you can change whether it launches 32/64 bit in the launcher options |
| 19:42.55 | Amarande | Which leaves Windows the only FF platform not to offer a 64-bit build by default. :P |
| 19:43.02 | g0urra | Maldivia: it's more likely than you think |
| 19:43.59 | Shadowed | don't make me ban you Torhal |
| 19:44.29 | *** join/#wowuidev Semlar (~chatzilla@72.188.164.101) |
| 19:44.45 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/r4aee.jpg much better |
| 19:45.31 | Esamynn|work | Shadowed: abuse of power! |
| 19:45.37 | Amarande | I still wonder if Firefox is headed down a path to perdition by embracing Metro :( |
| 19:45.39 | Shadowed | it's Torhal |
| 19:45.57 | Esamynn|work | that's no excuse |
| 19:46.00 | Maldivia | g0urra: one thing is to DC, another is an access violation crash |
| 19:46.09 | Esamynn|work | kicking is one thing, but a ban is abuse of power :P |
| 19:46.19 | Torhal | Lies. |
| 19:46.31 | Shadowed | see, Torhal even says it's not |
| 19:46.39 | Torhal | I was saying your words were lies :P |
| 19:46.44 | foxlit | meh, there's probably a bazillion crash-to-desktop issues with their new API calls |
| 19:46.45 | Shadowed | nope, not how the order looks to me |
| 19:48.58 | foxlit | but at least EJ_SelectTier is fixed <3 |
| 19:50.00 | Esamynn|work | Semlar: that's better huh? |
| 19:50.33 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/isOdA.jpg it's perfect |
| 19:50.47 | jnwhiteh | durcyn: no, its not under development. |
| 19:51.37 | Esamynn|work | why do I see Outland and Kalimdor zones in that image? |
| 19:51.42 | Semlar | i don't sweat the small stuff like continent offsets |
| 19:52.23 | harl | i wonder, why are all 3d portraits with my shadoweduf strangely enlarged and distorted (except the one for the "player" unit)? (yes, i realise there's a ticket mentioning dx9) |
| 19:53.05 | Semlar | or.. zone.. offsets.. |
| 19:53.12 | Esamynn|work | rofl |
| 19:53.36 | Semlar | look, the maps are there, what more do you want |
| 19:54.06 | F16Gaming | great |
| 19:54.07 | F16Gaming | "This account's public links are generating too much traffic and have been temporarily disabled! " |
| 19:54.10 | F16Gaming | (HealBot beta download) |
| 19:54.34 | F16Gaming | is there a mirror? P: |
| 19:54.55 | Esamynn|work | Semlar: if you need map offsets, I'd suggest you grab Astrolabe and query them from it |
| 19:55.17 | Semlar | that would be cheating |
| 19:55.27 | Esamynn|work | O_o |
| 19:55.31 | Semlar | i'd prefer to reinvent the wheel |
| 19:55.38 | Esamynn|work | ~poke Semlar |
| 19:55.38 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Semlar, pokes Semlar repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 19:56.11 | Esamynn|work | don't tell me you're one of those people with a serious case of "not invented here" syndrome |
| 19:56.59 | Amarande | Astrolabe ... twirls ... twirls! |
| 19:57.01 | Amarande | Dammit. |
| 19:57.09 | Amarande | I really should not have played Icewind Dale so much. |
| 19:57.21 | Amarande | (and now I feel the desire to get it again off of GoG and play it again :P) |
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| 19:57.38 | Stanzilla | foxlit: oooopie update? |
| 19:58.41 | Semlar | it's like pangaea |
| 19:58.50 | foxlit | Stanzilla: containing anything in particular? |
| 19:59.28 | harl | whoooopie! |
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| 20:00.09 | F16Gaming | why not upload your beta addons to curse :d |
| 20:00.53 | Stanzilla | foxlit: the fix to 617x OPie-Jade 3\Meta\ActionBook\DefaultHandlers.lua:54: attempt to call global "GetCompanionCooldown" (a nil value) |
| 20:02.00 | foxlit | Stanzilla: replace the rest of that line starting with GetCompanionCooldown with "nil" |
| 20:02.07 | foxlit | quotes for clarity. |
| 20:02.38 | Stanzilla | will work for me but not the other 20 people in my guild crying on my shoulders |
| 20:03.17 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 20:04.13 | foxlit | I missed that, but the problem is that the rest of the PetJournal api is turtles all the way down |
| 20:04.36 | End_ | it really is turtles |
| 20:04.40 | End_ | so many damn turtles |
| 20:05.04 | foxlit | for instance, it doesn't expose summoning spell ID. |
| 20:05.19 | foxlit | but pet journal pet indices are correlated with Companion indices. |
| 20:05.34 | foxlit | but you can't get pet journal information by index unless you do some sort of magical dance |
| 20:05.46 | End_ | mmm the old companion interface is your old pets |
| 20:05.48 | End_ | before the merge |
| 20:07.10 | End_ | it would really be nice if you could tell cooldown though, yea |
| 20:07.53 | End_ | GetSpellCooldown on the companion name seemed like it worked briefly, but I'm not certain it wasn't checking the old pre-merge pet |
| 20:09.03 | neutronimity | SET accounttype "BC" <- does changing that help with the infamous loading screen problem? |
| 20:09.11 | foxlit | End_: hm, you're right. |
| 20:09.19 | foxlit | So it's even more turtles than I thought :/ |
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| 20:11.09 | Kraps | http://www.healbot.info/forum/viewtopic.php?topic=4410#4410 |
| 20:16.17 | End_ | ugh yup GetSpellCooldown isn't useful here |
| 20:16.39 | TC-Work | is it just me or can gmail not do a litteral string search? |
| 20:17.02 | TC-Work | literal* |
| 20:19.05 | Shadowed | harl: blizzard issue |
| 20:19.34 | foxlit | End_: out of interest, how did you come to that conclusion? |
| 20:19.44 | Vladinator | foxlit: bring me up to speed on the pet journal index thing I've read about? what's the issue? |
| 20:19.55 | End_ | GetSpellCooldown("Mojo") on my main, then GetSpellCooldown("Mojo") on an alt |
| 20:20.05 | End_ | my main knew Mojo, my alt didn't until yesterday |
| 20:20.32 | End_ | I get the standard 0,0,1 on one and nil on another |
| 20:20.44 | End_ | or whatever |
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| 20:21.32 | Vladinator | hmm |
| 20:21.47 | harl|TM | shadowed: anyway, disabled until fixed. |
| 20:21.59 | Vladinator | End_: this happens using spellid too? |
| 20:22.17 | End_ | you can't get the spellid |
| 20:22.40 | End_ | mojo -does- have a spellid which you can determine, but I don't think any new pet has spellids |
| 20:22.53 | End_ | I should say the new api doesn't expose it |
| 20:24.27 | Vladinator | hmm |
| 20:24.45 | Vladinator | what is the goal? summon random pet minus duplicate types? |
| 20:24.53 | Vladinator | or just to be able to get the status of a pet? |
| 20:25.01 | End_ | in foxlit's case get the status I think |
| 20:25.18 | Ressy | Obama's doing an AMA |
| 20:25.28 | Ressy | https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/240903767350968320 |
| 20:25.37 | End_ | in mine, yes I summon a random, although ignoring the cooldown and farting our way through it is good enough for now |
| 20:25.45 | Kalroth | Obama broke reddit |
| 20:25.59 | nevcairiel | nah, reddit was broken at its conception |
| 20:26.03 | End_ | haha |
| 20:26.10 | Kalroth | nevs a 4channer |
| 20:26.22 | Vladinator | hmm, what about GetCompanionInfo? |
| 20:26.23 | Kalroth | or krautchan |
| 20:26.45 | End_ | the old api doesn't know about new or merged pets |
| 20:26.57 | End_ | just pets before tuesday |
| 20:27.15 | Vladinator | hmm |
| 20:27.20 | Vladinator | that's weird :P |
| 20:27.51 | Vladinator | each time the pet journal filter changes an event fires |
| 20:27.56 | Vladinator | probably doing a server query, bah... |
| 20:27.56 | End_ | yup |
| 20:28.01 | End_ | dont think so |
| 20:28.05 | End_ | actuallyu |
| 20:28.06 | End_ | no |
| 20:28.10 | End_ | it fires in the stack |
| 20:29.04 | Vladinator | each char I type and the list changes event fires and list visually updates :P is it really necessary? ^^ |
| 20:29.08 | End_ | actually I'm not sure it fires in the stack, although I've never seen the data not available immediately after the call |
| 20:29.08 | Mihau | Of pets, if you have a Westfall Chicken, you should only be able to keep up to three of those, correct? |
| 20:29.17 | Vladinator | ye, but I got 5 :3 |
| 20:29.22 | End_ | they do it so that the ui will update...I agree it is dumb though |
| 20:29.26 | Vladinator | westfall chickens FTW |
| 20:29.29 | Mihau | Same, over six. |
| 20:29.31 | End_ | and the 3 pet limit is relaxed for now |
| 20:29.38 | Jamash | I've got 7 of some pets |
| 20:29.43 | Vladinator | I am sure they will do some minor hotfix patches to fix these issues up. |
| 20:29.48 | End_ | when you catch pets in the wild, it'll be enforced |
| 20:29.52 | Jamash | yup |
| 20:29.52 | End_ | but it isn't now for merging purposes |
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| 20:33.53 | foxlit | well, screw supporting battle pets until something changes. |
| 20:34.58 | Jamash | something changes == mists |
| 20:35.34 | MysticalOS | this pet UI is so damn useless, gonna need mods just to make it half useful. doesn't tell you where dups are, tooltips no longer inform you whether or not you know a pet. |
| 20:35.46 | Kaylin | can't box pets. |
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| 20:39.31 | t1eR | hi friends, can anyone help via pm to move a frame? I have a feeling its simple and im just missing something simple |
| 20:40.36 | Jamash | boxing pets isn't in until mop |
| 20:41.00 | Jamash | what do you mean, doesn't tell you where dups are? |
| 20:41.11 | foxlit | and they broke error() |
| 20:41.14 | foxlit | that's hilarious! |
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| 20:42.05 | Neffi | Has anyone come up with a way to find out how many spells the player has? |
| 20:42.39 | foxlit | [you can no longer specify error position; backtraces always start with [C]: in function 'error'] |
| 20:43.01 | Neffi | eg I'm using GetSpellBookItemInfo to iterate through all spells anc heck their cooldowns. I never found a way to check how many spells there are, so I was using a counter. Once the counter went over the total spells, GetSpellBookItemInfo would return nil so I could just break the loop. Problem is, now GetSpellBookItemInfo throws an error if you pass it a spellindex higher than what exists. |
| 20:43.24 | Neffi | Nor can I find the framexml for 5.0 |
| 20:43.32 | Xinhuan | so ther must be a way to get the number of items in it |
| 20:43.38 | End_ | there is |
| 20:43.42 | foxlit | Neffi: pcall, break on when it throws. |
| 20:43.44 | Neffi | I really don't want to catch the error with pcall (for performance reasons), so is there no other way? |
| 20:43.47 | End_ | it's the function for getting spellbook tab info |
| 20:43.53 | End_ | I can't remember the name though |
| 20:44.10 | Neffi | I'll look into that |
| 20:44.29 | Xinhuan | HasPetSpells() |
| 20:44.36 | Xinhuan | should return number of petspells |
| 20:44.38 | Neffi | foxlit: catching an error on every single ACTIONBAR_UPDATE_COOLDOWN would easily use twice the CPU the addon currently is, if not more |
| 20:44.41 | Jamash | ~framexlm |
| 20:44.43 | Jamash | derp |
| 20:44.45 | Jamash | ~framexml |
| 20:44.45 | purl | somebody said framexml was Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 20:45.03 | End_ | hm, that's interesting |
| 20:45.09 | Neffi | Ah thanks. I was using wowprogramming, which isn't updated. I see go-hero is. |
| 20:45.21 | Stanzilla | haste you slacker |
| 20:45.22 | Xinhuan | i hope that helped |
| 20:45.30 | foxlit | Neffi: and you feel compelled to iterate over the entire spellbook on an action bar event.... why? |
| 20:45.39 | End_ | zones in out a million times. |
| 20:45.51 | Neffi | Because when cooldown events fire, they don't tell you which cooldown is being changed |
| 20:45.54 | harl|TM | shadowed: is there an "OR" for text tags? (with shadoweduf) |
| 20:45.58 | Neffi | You need to manually figure that out |
| 20:46.00 | Shadowed | no |
| 20:46.00 | Jamash | I love the wow event api |
| 20:46.05 | Jamash | SOMETHING HAPPENED |
| 20:46.12 | Jamash | SOMEWHERE |
| 20:46.14 | Jamash | TO SOMETHING |
| 20:46.15 | Shadowed | Anything complicated you have to write it yourself in Lua |
| 20:46.17 | Neffi | Jamash: What new event API? |
| 20:46.20 | Xinhuan | neffi's right on that one heh |
| 20:46.24 | Jamash | didn't say new |
| 20:46.33 | Xinhuan | all buttons register for the event, and check if their cooldown needs to be updated |
| 20:46.35 | Jamash | the existing one |
| 20:46.50 | Jamash | it's getting better, slowly |
| 20:46.57 | Adys | is the uldum hoverglow green on the kalimdor map? |
| 20:47.02 | Neffi | Ah, misread. |
| 20:47.02 | Jamash | like LEARNED_SPELL_IN_TAB actually says *what* spell now |
| 20:47.05 | foxlit | you're better of maintaining your own list of known spells. |
| 20:47.11 | Jamash | ^ |
| 20:47.14 | Jamash | I do |
| 20:47.17 | Neffi | foxlit: I probably will do that now |
| 20:47.26 | Neffi | Now that it's easier to handle leanred talents and all |
| 20:47.32 | Jamash | I'm thinking about making a spellbook lib |
| 20:47.35 | Jamash | but not that hard |
| 20:47.42 | Jamash | so don't wait for it |
| 20:47.58 | Neffi | Well my whole addon is like 200 lines. I imagine a lib to handle every use case would be more than that. |
| 20:48.06 | foxlit | Jamash: besides, been there, done that. |
| 20:48.22 | Jamash | is there a current one? |
| 20:48.39 | Vladinator | making my old macros smaller, takes a lot of time as a druid lol |
| 20:48.53 | Vladinator | to get the flow going :P here is one of the old once /use [noform:1,noform:3,harm]Prowl;[noform:1,noform:3]!Cat Form;[form:1]Growl;[form:3,nocombat,nostealth]Prowl;[form:3,nocombat]Pounce;[form:3,combat]Shred;[form:3]Shred;Cyclone |
| 20:48.53 | foxlit | with a big asterisk, sure. |
| 20:49.15 | Jamash | what's the asterisk? |
| 20:49.17 | Vladinator | * |
| 20:49.21 | Jamash | thanks vlad |
| 20:50.25 | Neffi | Speaking of getting better, I liked that they added :RegisterUnitEvent, until I saw it's hard-limited to two units |
| 20:50.26 | foxlit | it doesn't really do a better job of notifying you of changes in available abilities. |
| 20:50.36 | Kraps | @CM_Zarhym |
| 20:50.37 | Kraps | Blizzard's heading to #PAX! Find @Nethaera & @Vaeflare at the @NVIDIA booth, and @Bashiok & me at the @Intel booth: |
| 20:50.44 | End_ | hm |
| 20:50.48 | Neffi | Could've been a nice optimization to only have events fired for the units nfUnitFrames cares about. But alas, no possible anyway. |
| 20:50.58 | End_ | did setting a model used to reset the position via :SetPosition()? |
| 20:51.01 | End_ | it doesn't seem to be now |
| 20:51.39 | Neffi | End_: Back in BC when I last used models, yes it did. But it was also buggy, because the API wasn't always aware of it resetting. |
| 20:51.44 | Neffi | That's probably why they changed it |
| 20:52.09 | Adys | Ackis: is there a spot with a lot of booty bay reputation mobs? |
| 20:52.14 | Adys | continuously spawning that is |
| 20:52.22 | Adys | fray island is way too small |
| 20:53.05 | Amarande | Adys: I'm guessing you just finished the pirate rep part and are now trying to finish your Insane? :) |
| 20:53.11 | Neffi | One more question before I head to CS class. Are all queues integrated into the same minimap button now? |
| 20:53.18 | Neffi | Eg are BG queues handled by the same button? |
| 20:53.31 | Adys | Amarande: no, i have insane for ages, but im only revered with booty bay and need 5k to get my 60th exalted |
| 20:53.34 | Neffi | I logged in to see an error with my custom button, but I have no time to check that now |
| 20:55.14 | End_ | Shadowed: did you see what I wrote about :SetPosition() above? seems to be causing a pretty minor issue with 3d portraits in SUF |
| 20:55.33 | End_ | or should I just open a ticket |
| 20:57.51 | Amarande | Adys: don't you get BB rep by killing pirates? (or are you trying to keep pirate rep maxed too?) |
| 20:57.59 | Adys | i am |
| 20:58.20 | Amarande | BTW, does the phased-quest trick still work for pirate rep or did they nerf it? |
| 20:58.23 | Adys | Im maxed out on bloodsail |
| 20:58.29 | Adys | i dont know that trick |
| 20:58.48 | Jamash | did they break withers again? |
| 20:58.50 | Amarande | Adys: I read on wowhead that there's a quest in Cape of Stranglethorn that involves a phased version of Booty Bay where the guards are only level 35 |
| 20:58.52 | End_ | I am now hated by the frostborn |
| 20:58.56 | End_ | I'm horde though |
| 20:58.57 | End_ | so |
| 20:59.06 | Adys | Amarande: yeah ive done that so no good |
| 20:59.10 | Amarande | but still grant the same pirate rep (or did at the time - I don't know if it's been nerfed) as the regular max level BB guards |
| 20:59.32 | Jamash | one button now does bgs, arena, rated bgs and war games |
| 20:59.35 | Amarande | I'm wondering if that's still the case or if they nerfed it so the phased guards don't give rep |
| 20:59.58 | Amarande | since it seems like they like to nerf pretty much all the other "take advantage of the phased quest to make the achievement much easier" tricks |
| 21:00.01 | Jamash | another button does dungeon finder, raid finder, scenarios and challenges |
| 21:00.19 | Amarande | e.g., how Alliance used to be able to use Wrathgate quests to easily get their fishing achievements (pre-cata when you still went to Orgrimmar during that chain) |
| 21:00.20 | Jamash | they nerfed phased BB a long time ago I think |
| 21:00.33 | Jamash | I remember people complaining about it |
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| 21:01.19 | Amarande | Probably the one most gear-grinding policy of Blizzard's. Any time someone comes up with a creative way to make an achievement or quest or such easier, they treat it as an exploit and nerf it. "NO THAT IS NOT THE WAY TO DO IT! YOU MUST DO IT THE WAY *WE* THOUGHT OF!" |
| 21:01.43 | Amarande | Granted, it's not as bad as FFXI *cough* Absolute Virtue *cough* |
| 21:02.19 | Jamash | ooo, right in the beanbag |
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| 21:04.53 | Amarande | But then, FFXI is made by a Japanese company, and as a longtime veteran of Japanese RPGs, I'm well aware that JRPG designers are sadists. :D |
| 21:05.26 | Amarande | If the player in a JRPG is not suffering sufficiently by the end of the game, it means one and only one thing: the game isn't hard enough. :) |
| 21:06.23 | Kraps | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6413172918#10 HEH |
| 21:16.38 | t1eR | I'm trying to move a frame, but it's not working, sorry if i'm missing something obvious. https://privatepaste.com/53716489fd |
| 21:16.41 | End_ | I have a gift for creating the worst fucking ticket titles |
| 21:20.29 | Jamash | t1eR: a frame needs to know where all four corners/edges are to appear |
| 21:21.12 | Jamash | does that frame have its height and width set? |
| 21:21.24 | t1eR | i believe so |
| 21:22.13 | t1eR | the ElvUF_Target.AuraBars is being set up in ElvUI, i'm just trying to anchor the frame to the other aura bars |
| 21:22.50 | t1eR | i also tried defining two points, but it didn't seem to work |
| 21:22.59 | Jamash | Poin isn't a function |
| 21:23.02 | Jamash | *Point |
| 21:23.05 | Jamash | SetPoint is |
| 21:23.08 | t1eR | It's an ElvUI function |
| 21:23.14 | Jamash | ah |
| 21:23.15 | t1eR | it uses setpoint |
| 21:23.18 | t1eR | but adds the scaling |
| 21:23.27 | t1eR | since it uses it owns |
| 21:24.09 | t1eR | right now, the code does nothing at all, the frame is staying where it originally is |
| 21:25.08 | Jamash | move Anchor() above RegisterEvent and make it local |
| 21:25.19 | durcyn | or just hook the OnShow |
| 21:25.33 | Jamash | or make it an anonymous function |
| 21:26.00 | t1eR | ok i tried making it local and moving it, still does nothing |
| 21:26.08 | Jamash | do you know when the frame recieves its original positioning? |
| 21:26.20 | Jamash | PLAYER_LOGIN might be before that |
| 21:26.21 | t1eR | i don't |
| 21:26.52 | t1eR | in that case, it seems like hooking the OnShow might be the best option |
| 21:26.55 | t1eR | i'll try that |
| 21:29.07 | Sintacks | if you have a library installed by itself, and an addon uses it, but has it embeded, which version will said addon use |
| 21:29.58 | mckenziemc | the newer one |
| 21:30.35 | mckenziemc | both will run; either the newer one will run first and the older one will see that and skip loading, or the older one will run first, then the newer one will replace it |
| 21:30.41 | End_ | the versions of the library will load in order, and newer versions will upgrade upon the earliest version loaded |
| 21:30.47 | foxlit | Gr, Chrome |
| 21:31.33 | End_ | (order being addon load order) |
| 21:31.41 | foxlit | Aw, Snap!s on curse and crashes completely if trying to clear cache |
| 21:32.01 | mckenziemc | lolol Chrome |
| 21:32.03 | g0urra | what... http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/rating-buster#c2093 |
| 21:32.14 | g0urra | "here's how to load out-of-date addons" |
| 21:32.24 | Sintacks | Message: ...ole\libs\LibGroupTalents-1.0\LibGroupTalents-1.0.lua line 345: |
| 21:32.29 | Sintacks | i dislike swatter sometimes |
| 21:33.00 | Sintacks | how am i supposed to know what fucking addon ends in ole |
| 21:33.13 | mckenziemc | g0urra: just in case you don't want to load out of date addons |
| 21:33.16 | foxlit | ls Addons/*ole |
| 21:33.49 | mckenziemc | doesn't matter sintacks |
| 21:34.02 | mckenziemc | it could've been any addon that used that library; maybe not even the addon that provided the files |
| 21:34.20 | Semlar | i know what it's not working |
| 21:34.39 | Semlar | they got rid of the the api for getting your talent tab info |
| 21:35.07 | Semlar | you just have to replace it with getspecialization or something |
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| 21:36.39 | TC-Work | uh oh Arrowmaster, $180 CE |
| 21:37.26 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: http://www.callofduty.com/blackops2/ce |
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| 21:44.01 | Sintacks | lawl. $180 |
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| 21:54.02 | t1eR | is the only way to hook OnShow through xml? |
| 21:54.44 | Semlar | frame:HookScript('OnShow', function() etc end) |
| 21:55.25 | t1eR | ah ty, sorry though, just found that through google myself >_< |
| 21:55.33 | Fisker | cashing out TC-Work |
| 21:55.34 | Fisker | umad? |
| 21:56.27 | Arrowmaster | TC-Work: not buying it |
| 21:56.34 | Fisker | why not Arrowmaster ? |
| 21:56.34 | mckenziemc | Fisker: ugonad? |
| 21:56.35 | Fisker | best game |
| 21:56.42 | Arrowmaster | its CoD |
| 21:56.43 | Fisker | hey mckenziemc |
| 21:56.45 | Fisker | take a pistol |
| 21:56.47 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: Are you sure you have it in you? |
| 21:56.50 | Fisker | suck on it |
| 21:56.59 | Fisker | then pull the trigger |
| 21:57.08 | mckenziemc | ^ mad |
| 21:57.10 | TC-Work | Fisker: i have no chips to cash out |
| 21:57.14 | Fisker | :O |
| 21:57.17 | Fisker | nomad mckenziemc |
| 21:57.57 | Arrowmaster | TC-Work: i got the MW CE, MW2 and MW3 hardened editions, and i do not own any of the treyarch CoDs |
| 21:58.10 | Fisker | pls Arrowmaster |
| 21:58.16 | Fisker | why are you paying for that shit? |
| 21:58.20 | Arrowmaster | and if IW releases another CoD im not buying it either |
| 22:01.24 | Esamynn|work | Sintacks: nothing swatter can do about that, it just dumps what the error API gives it |
| 22:01.47 | Jamash | the api truncates file names? |
| 22:01.53 | Jamash | that's terrible |
| 22:01.59 | mckenziemc | sounds familiar |
| 22:02.03 | Torhal | foxlit: They didn't just break error... |
| 22:02.05 | Torhal | I had an issue with ARL last night where it simply stopped executing. No errors. I found where it was dying with print statements - where the prints stopped happening was a loop where it was checking for skill entries being "header", but not "subheader". When I added that check, my prints all suddenly happened flawlessly. |
| 22:02.11 | Esamynn|work | I'm 99.9% sure swatter doesn't |
| 22:02.28 | Torhal | It's like the stack just ate itself. |
| 22:02.50 | Esamynn|work | mac or PC? |
| 22:02.52 | Jamash | om nom nom nom nom |
| 22:02.53 | g0urra | stackception. |
| 22:02.54 | foxlit | Torhal: I think there's a feature that randomly kills stuff that's taking too long. |
| 22:03.01 | Fisker | my body is ready |
| 22:03.07 | Esamynn|work | foxlit: yes, there is |
| 22:03.08 | Jamash | yeah that's new |
| 22:03.12 | Esamynn|work | but only in combat |
| 22:03.13 | foxlit | Which is sheer idiocy |
| 22:03.15 | Jamash | enjoy debugging that! |
| 22:03.26 | t1eR | I tried hooking OnShow, not working.. lua: http://privatepaste.com/c13bcdcd26 .. lua error: http://privatepaste.com/796dc7ed2a |
| 22:03.27 | Torhal | foxlit: That's less than useful without the UI saying "BTW, we killed your shit" |
| 22:03.31 | Esamynn|work | you should get an error when it get's killed |
| 22:03.44 | Esamynn|work | which is very clear that it was killed forceably |
| 22:04.00 | foxlit | it's still an incredibly bad decision. |
| 22:04.06 | Esamynn|work | why? |
| 22:04.16 | Torhal | No errors whatsoever. It was just like the code decided to stop running at that loop. |
| 22:04.28 | Esamynn|work | then it's not the script run time limitation |
| 22:04.32 | Esamynn|work | Torhal: mac or pc? |
| 22:04.34 | foxlit | Because randomly killing code that's taking too long is a bad idea. |
| 22:04.37 | Torhal | Esamynn|work: Mac. |
| 22:04.43 | foxlit | It'll end up with variables in a potentially inconsistent state |
| 22:04.49 | Esamynn|work | I have reason to believe there may be a problem with the Lua interpreter on Mac |
| 22:04.52 | foxlit | Which'll in turn cause all sorts of future weirdness. |
| 22:05.33 | Esamynn|work | foxlit: yes well, I'm sure they didn't undertake that limitation lightly |
| 22:05.41 | foxlit | And what does it accomplish, anyway? |
| 22:05.49 | foxlit | "It's not us, it's your addons that make your framerate suck"? |
| 22:05.54 | Esamynn|work | prevents a single stupid addon from hosing performance |
| 22:05.56 | Torhal | Esamynn|work: Actually, I had pompy run the code on his Windows machine and he has the same issue. Scanning Inscription simply did nothing. |
| 22:06.08 | Esamynn|work | odd |
| 22:06.18 | foxlit | *Letting* it hose performance and notifying you that it did would've been better. |
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| 22:06.34 | foxlit | "By the way, without Recount, you'd get 120 fps instead of 20" |
| 22:06.41 | Esamynn|work | I don't totally disagree |
| 22:06.46 | foxlit | Not "oh hey let's randomly stop exiting shit and hope for the best." |
| 22:07.01 | foxlit | *executing. |
| 22:07.22 | Fisker | Jamash |
| 22:07.27 | Esamynn|work | Torhal: well, if you have a peice of sample code to show the problem, I'd be interested to try it |
| 22:07.45 | Esamynn|work | if it's a real problem we should pass it along to Blizz |
| 22:10.37 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 22:10.48 | t1eR | if i anchor a frame to parentFrame and parentFrame's size changes, will the position of frame be affected? |
| 22:10.50 | Fisker | wanna hug? |
| 22:11.23 | Esamynn|work | t1eR: depends on your anchor points |
| 22:11.52 | TC-Work | Fisker: your 'hugs' come with unxepected side effects |
| 22:12.04 | mckenziemc | ~fiskerslap |
| 22:12.05 | purl | ACTION slaps a large trout around a bit with Fisker. |
| 22:12.39 | Fisker | my body is ready TC-Work |
| 22:12.50 | t1eR | Esamynn|Away: http://privatepaste.com/1b58425a7a these are my anchor points |
| 22:14.16 | Esamynn|work | t1eR: how the children move depends on how the parent's edges move when you change its size |
| 22:14.46 | Esamynn|work | the parent's edges will move (or not move) while leaving the anchor points fixed |
| 22:14.54 | TC-Work | Fisker: for? |
| 22:15.00 | Fisker | hugs |
| 22:15.02 | Esamynn|work | s/anchor points/anchor points of the parent/ |
| 22:15.25 | Torhal | Esamynn|work: Ackis Recipe List, latest alpha: In Core.lua, addon:Scan() remove the "subheader" checks from the two loops and a scan will do nothing at all for inscription. If you add print statements up to the loop, all those will work fine. Any after will not until the subheader check is re-added. |
| 22:15.25 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.28 | p3lim | Getting a lot of crashes when I'm opening the world map |
| 22:15.37 | p3lim | Also getting dropdown-related errors from opening it |
| 22:16.38 | t1eR | so the way i've anchored the frame, it won't move when the parents size changes? |
| 22:16.57 | Ackis | anyone getting a bug where an achievement dings everytime you change zones/log in? |
| 22:17.22 | Esamynn|work | t1eR: all anchor points are relative to something, if that something moves, your anchor point moves |
| 22:17.36 | p3lim | Ackis: One of our officers is spamming the 5k daily achievement a lot |
| 22:17.52 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 22:17.58 | Fisker | you log in? |
| 22:18.00 | Ackis | p3lim: that's the exact one I'm having issues with |
| 22:18.01 | t1eR | Gotcha, I think my problem stems in that the frame is a "holder" for bars |
| 22:18.40 | t1eR | you can see my problem here: http://t1er.com/screenshots/2012-08-29_181757.png |
| 22:21.57 | Fisker | help me Ackis |
| 22:22.52 | Fisker | dick |
| 22:23.11 | Esamynn|work | Torhal: best if you find simplest case repro code |
| 22:23.35 | Torhal | I'll whip something up. |
| 22:23.53 | mckenziemc | lua> while Torhal == nil do end |
| 22:23.58 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: Your code exceeded set CPU limits |
| 22:24.27 | mckenziemc | hey Torhal |
| 22:24.31 | mckenziemc | you exceeded CPU limits |
| 22:24.50 | Unkle | No, no, no. Torhal IS a CPU limit. |
| 22:24.55 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 22:25.16 | Torhal | limits mckenziemc's CPU to 8MHz. |
| 22:25.42 | TC-Work | prods Unkle waiting for an explosion of rage |
| 22:27.29 | mckenziemc | executes Torhal in parallel |
| 22:27.32 | Unkle | Why should Unkle rage? I mean, aside from this migraine? |
| 22:29.27 | TC-Work | Old times sake? |
| 22:30.05 | Unkle | Perhaps you have confused me with Dagmar? |
| 22:32.55 | Stanzilla | hey Fisker |
| 22:34.23 | TC-Work | no no Unkle, Dagmar still rages |
| 22:35.50 | Jamash | rage, rage at the dying of the light |
| 22:37.53 | t1eR | anyone have a simple script to list all frames on screen? |
| 22:39.23 | Esamynn|work | do you have any idea how big that list would be? |
| 22:39.40 | t1eR | haha yeah, i actually found a different method to do what i want |
| 22:39.46 | t1eR | so don't need to thankfully |
| 22:41.35 | t1eR | here's an ss of the bars that are overlapping: http://t1er.com/screenshots/2012-08-29_183946.png |
| 22:41.44 | t1eR | well the "frames" |
| 22:41.48 | t1eR | but i'm not sure exactly what those mean |
| 22:43.39 | Kraps | you can change talents INDIVIDUALLY *mind blown* |
| 22:44.01 | Kraps | anywhere! |
| 22:44.10 | Unkle | As long as you're not in combat! |
| 22:44.15 | Kraps | yeah |
| 22:44.33 | Unkle | It's like... you can change shit up just cause! |
| 22:46.25 | Kraps | the 40% chance of a restriction-free PW:S after Penance didnt seem to do anything though :/ |
| 22:46.51 | Kraps | as far as i could tell |
| 22:47.08 | Kraps | there was no notification in the combat scroll |
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| 23:08.38 | Kraps | wait that means that you dont have to reclick all 6 talents if you want to respec per raid fight |
| 23:08.50 | Kraps | aaaaaa |
| 23:11.19 | Kaylin | yea but you lose your stacks of dragonsoul valor. |
| 23:11.57 | Kraps | good one |
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| 23:21.10 | Sintacks | hmm. i wonder what my \World of Warcraft Multibox\ install is going to do... since it uses symlink \Data\ folder |
| 23:28.26 | arton | yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawns. |
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| 23:36.35 | TC-Work | "../../lib/libkalarm_kcal.a: could not read symbols: Bad value" anyone know whereabouts i should be looking to fix that? |
| 23:37.26 | End_ | is this in the compiler/linker? |
| 23:37.35 | TC-Work | yea, during a make |
| 23:38.13 | End_ | is libkalarm_kcal you built or something built during the make? I'd make sure it's the correct arch I guess? |
| 23:38.34 | TC-Work | well, i'm using cent, and it's for fedora. |
| 23:38.37 | TC-Work | they dont have one for RH |
| 23:38.55 | TC-Work | specifically |
| 23:38.59 | End_ | hmm |
| 23:39.33 | End_ | I'd start with running file on that library to see what you get, but your issue sounds like a bit of a pain in the butt |
| 23:40.10 | Sintacks | I get 700 fps on the login screen |
| 23:40.10 | Sintacks | dafuq |
| 23:40.44 | Kaylin | vsynch |
| 23:40.46 | Kaylin | pls |
| 23:40.53 | Sintacks | lol |
| 23:41.00 | Sintacks | i get better fps with it off |
| 23:41.17 | Sintacks | i get 4fps on the loading screen. lolz |
| 23:41.28 | pompy | TC-Work: "Which linker were you using? I've seen problems like that when using GNU ld. Switching back to /usr/ccs/bin/ld cured it all." |
| 23:41.33 | pompy | found that response on the internets |
| 23:42.11 | TC-Work | dont have a ccs |
| 23:42.14 | TC-Work | dir |
| 23:43.56 | pompy | TC-Work: http://www.svnforum.org/threads/32555-make-error-libneon-a-could-not-read-symbols-Bad-value?s=ef6c6812c1b30141d845dfce608f8312&p=88000&viewfull=1#post88000 |
| 23:46.11 | Adys | Dagmar: is there a way to make low ports available to a user/group? |
| 23:46.26 | Adys | eg users part of "wheel" can use port 80 |
| 23:47.41 | Esamynn|work | afaik, programs normally do that by starting as root and then dropping the rights they don't need |
| 23:48.08 | Esamynn|work | but I've never looked into whether you can give a group the ability to access "server" ports |
| 23:48.16 | TC-Work | pompy: alas it uses no configfile. Thanks though |
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