| 00:00.29 | Xinhuan | ~seen kagaro |
| 00:00.38 | purl | kagaro <~kagaro@cpe-069-134-173-126.nc.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 3d 7h 32m 9s ago, saying: 'bacon is just .. just .. too good'. |
| 00:00.38 | Xinhuan | !seen kagaro |
| 00:00.42 | Arrowmaster | now im looking to buy a http://amzn.com/B008DWH00K |
| 00:01.10 | Ladyblink | do you think it depends more on the relationship of the colors though? like, having a light grey on a slightly darker grey..or same with a color.. while already hard to read, could be totally wack... i guess my point is subtleties but really, if the relationships are in place, it should display properly unless some moron has way too much of R G or B |
| 00:01.38 | Iriel | Ladyblink: How much you'd notice a collapsed space, sure |
| 00:01.47 | Iriel | But it's all about what you're trying to achieve |
| 00:02.03 | Iriel | If you want to know "How will it look in print" then you want the colors accurate, and precision between them is less important. |
| 00:02.27 | Iriel | If you want to know "is there noise in my grey area" then you want precision and accuracy is less important |
| 00:02.32 | Iriel | Everything is trade-offs. |
| 00:04.15 | Ladyblink | errm i disagree about the precision between colors.. that relationship should be in place based on whatever you're trying to achieve.. as well as accounting for color influence |
| 00:04.37 | Iriel | I didn't say it wasn't important, I said it's less important. |
| 00:04.40 | Ladyblink | hehe |
| 00:04.43 | Ladyblink | ok ok |
| 00:05.21 | Iriel | Color influence is fun too, are the light bulbs in your home/office of the appropriate spectrum |
| 00:05.23 | Ladyblink | usually i give my printer a spot color or two, like i will do with this flyer i'm doing... and all the relationships I've established sync up |
| 00:05.38 | Ladyblink | i am lucky enough to have daylight |
| 00:05.59 | Ladyblink | but yeah light boxes were used at my old job |
| 00:06.10 | Ladyblink | with different bulbs/settings >.< i did the 3d stuff |
| 00:06.26 | Iriel | That's the key right -- you do your WORK based on known relationships, then once you can proof it on a calibrated system, adjust it as needed, and you're good to go. |
| 00:06.49 | Ladyblink | agreed ;) |
| 00:07.02 | Ladyblink | ideally work on a calibrated system lol |
| 00:07.15 | Iriel | Yeah |
| 00:08.03 | Ladyblink | and actually |
| 00:08.06 | Ladyblink | light is my problem right now |
| 00:08.15 | Ladyblink | but i think i've figured out how i'm going to deal with this stupid flyer |
| 00:08.15 | Iriel | I should do a profile of my (new as of yesterday) retina MBP 8-) |
| 00:08.25 | Ladyblink | MBP? |
| 00:08.42 | Iriel | MacBook Pro |
| 00:08.52 | foxlit | Iriel: how's the battery life? |
| 00:09.01 | Ladyblink | that guy i worked with always told me to wait a couple hours of the monitor being on before calibration. minimum is 30 minutes |
| 00:09.22 | Ladyblink | but he was so ocd and particular (great guy so smart) and waited like 4 before he'd touch a monitor to calibrate it |
| 00:09.44 | Iriel | foxlit: I dont know for sure, I haven't pushed it yet - no reason thus far to believe it's not any better than the previous generation |
| 00:09.55 | Iriel | I'd get about 6 hours (of lightweight work) on my older one |
| 00:10.12 | foxlit | scary charts keep appearing showing a 2 hour decrease with 10.8 :/ |
| 00:10.38 | Amarande | hm, according to Ars comments, apparently the judge in the Apple case looks like she was very likely biased |
| 00:10.39 | Iriel | I guess i'll see.. mine came with 10.8 |
| 00:10.55 | Arrowmaster | Amarande: did she have an iphone? |
| 00:10.56 | Amarande | (it's also suspicious that Apple investors seemed to get the news on the verdict almost unnaturally rapidly, isn't it?) |
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| 00:11.22 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Unfortunately after having used 27-28" screens…24" is just too small. That's what I have at work and I hate them. |
| 00:11.25 | Ladyblink | apple lovers are always biased;) |
| 00:11.51 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: as much as id love something bigger than 24" i doubt i could afford it |
| 00:12.08 | Torhal | I was fortunate that I caught mine at $249 back in 2009. |
| 00:12.17 | Torhal | Well, don't know about fortunate because they're both dying now :/ |
| 00:12.18 | Amarande | Apparently, the verdict news got to the trading floor quickly enough to give Apple a big value spike the same day, and Judge Koh apparently did her best to shut out certain information (for instance, the fact that there's nothing new about parsing text) and to rush the jury to give a verdict |
| 00:12.25 | Arrowmaster | i just got the email that my RMA powersupply is being shipped to me so i need to get a working monitor now |
| 00:12.57 | Amarande | Some Ars folks are thinking there might even have to be a new trial altogether, not just an appeal, because of how badly Koh is said to have handled the case |
| 00:13.00 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: $249 for a 27" sounds like a TN panel...... |
| 00:13.08 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: 28" actually. |
| 00:13.27 | Arrowmaster | hows the viewing angle? |
| 00:14.58 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3326540 |
| 00:15.10 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: 800:1 contrast FTL, though |
| 00:15.31 | Arrowmaster | i got a page telling me how to enable javascript in IE |
| 00:15.37 | Torhal | o.O |
| 00:15.55 | Arrowmaster | oh its got firefox at the bottom |
| 00:16.24 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: my dell 2001fp only had 600:1 contrast i think |
| 00:16.24 | Torhal | Says 160 Degrees horizontal/vertical |
| 00:16.37 | Amarande | oh yay. volatile air dropped by 30% on the Ysera AH tonight |
| 00:16.43 | Amarande | 525 engineering ahoy :) |
| 00:17.52 | zenzelezz | grats |
| 00:20.15 | Amarande | :) |
| 00:20.18 | Arrowmaster | damnit i dont know who to order this monitor from, newegg and amazon both have free shipping and no sales tax, amazon is a few dollars cheaper, newegg is 3 day shipping while amazon is 5-8, but amazon supposedly does free cross shipping on replacements while newegg charges you for the shipping back to them |
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| 00:20.56 | Amarande | I still start to think the little "get volatile air while gathering" gadget is a scam and Blizzard laughs heartily whenever they see in their server logs than an engineer made one, though :P |
| 00:21.08 | Dagmar | If you cant' figure that out in 30 seconds or less, flip a bloody coin |
| 00:21.25 | Dagmar | How often do you ever have to ship monitors back? |
| 00:21.34 | Arrowmaster | actually im going to lookup the tracking number for my PSU to see when its arriving |
| 00:21.45 | Amarande | Arrow: yeah, free cross shipping ist gut |
| 00:21.57 | Amarande | I remember when my motherboard I ordered from newegg was DOA last year |
| 00:22.12 | Amarande | UPS has become well and truly horrendous in cost lately |
| 00:22.20 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: depends, some are saying this monitor has bad backlight bleed on some and you can return it for a new one |
| 00:22.36 | Amarande | Mobo: 3.5lbs. First wanted to overnight it - would have cost as much as the mobo cost to begin with. :P Even 2-day would have been over $90. |
| 00:22.41 | Amarande | Even *ground* came out to over $20. |
| 00:22.56 | Arrowmaster | i had to RMA a full size tower case to newegg because the castor wheels on it broke as soon as i put them on |
| 00:23.52 | Arrowmaster | coolermaster decided to put smaller wheels on its stacker line of cases over time so when i loaded it with 10 harddrives the front wheels just snapped |
| 00:24.16 | Amarande | $20 for ground, given all the time it takes to get it back (especially since I lost a whole extra week of computer use due to it happening such that the Thanksgiving long weekend got into the timeframe), if it wasn't a $130 Intel board I might even have just thought of saying F it and outright buy another one :P |
| 00:24.57 | Arrowmaster | i just spent $20 ground shipping a PSU back to coolermaster and it took an entire week to get there |
| 00:25.12 | Amarande | I was without my computer for 37 days in all last fall |
| 00:25.20 | Esamynn|work | ouch |
| 00:25.29 | Amarande | First there was the storm around Samhain last year that caused a week-long power outage |
| 00:25.43 | Arrowmaster | i went for 30 days last time my PSU blew |
| 00:25.56 | Amarande | Power came back and I found that the fluctuations pre-outage had fried the mobo somehow (the BIOS chip appeared to have gone corrupted somehow most likely) |
| 00:26.07 | Amarande | Ordered a new mobo from newegg, it came the next day but was DOA |
| 00:26.13 | Arrowmaster | ive probably already been 30 days without my desktop this time since i was lazy getting it RMAd |
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| 00:26.56 | Amarande | Took a week to have the computer tested by the local repair shop to determine the problem (probably backlog due to a lot of people with issues after the outage, but it was a necessary step since the old mobo was Socket 939, so I had to buy a new CPU and RAM along with it and had no testing components to tell what was actually bad) |
| 00:27.11 | Amarande | Then wanted to overnight it to save a week, but it was too expensive, so another week to get it sent back to newegg |
| 00:27.53 | Amarande | Newegg processed it really fast, but then Thanksgiving came, and UPS takes Black Friday off, so it didn't get shipped back till the Monday after, and was unfortunate enough to not make it back to the East Coast by Friday, so another weekend wait until I finally got the replacement |
| 00:28.00 | mckenziemc | evening amarande |
| 00:28.03 | Amarande | heya |
| 00:28.19 | Arrowmaster | ok monitor ordered |
| 00:28.59 | Arrowmaster | still dont know when the PSU is getting here though because the tracking number just tells me "the tracking number has been created but we havent received the item yet so we dont know when" |
| 00:29.17 | Amarande | I get the impression that one should never, ever upgrade a computer in the USA during the month of November |
| 00:29.21 | Amarande | Granted, I didn't have much choice in this case |
| 00:29.46 | Amarande | (and especially so if you're on the East Coast when upgrading said PC) |
| 00:30.54 | Esamynn|work | or, perhaps, find a local source for the parts |
| 00:31.10 | Amarande | Esamynn: the problem is actually in the RMA process |
| 00:31.18 | Arrowmaster | local sources suck, limited selection and overpriced |
| 00:31.31 | Amarande | Newegg has warehouses all over, usually I in fact get my components next day even without having to spend extra on shipping |
| 00:31.45 | Amarande | because most of the time they come from the New Jersey warehouse where I can't help but get it next day since I'm in CT |
| 00:32.08 | Esamynn|work | I've never used newegg |
| 00:32.23 | Amarande | The trouble is that Newegg handles RMAs only via the California warehouse, so you lose an extra two weeks due to ground shipping turnaround (since overnighting is prohibitively expensive of late) |
| 00:32.26 | Esamynn|work | 49th parallel is something of an invisible barrier |
| 00:32.37 | kd3 | <3 newegg if you're in a reasonable shipping zone |
| 00:33.10 | Amarande | If it wasn't for the DOA, I would have been only about a week and a half without my PC, and that almost entirely due to the power outage rather than dead components |
| 00:33.56 | Amarande | Like I said, if I hadn't gone for a reliable brand and thus spent $130 or so on the mobo, I might have just said F it and simply ordered a new one rather than going through RMA |
| 00:34.02 | Arrowmaster | pff poweroutage didnt stop me from using a computer |
| 00:34.05 | Amarande | especially since you can get a budget mobo for well under $100 and it's at minimum $20 to ship back |
| 00:34.09 | Esamynn|work | let me guess, no UPS and you left the computer plugged in? |
| 00:34.16 | Amarande | Arrow: you have a UPS that stays alive for a week? :) |
| 00:34.19 | Arrowmaster | lol $130 on a mobo |
| 00:34.26 | Amarande | Arrow: Intel, DZ68DB |
| 00:34.27 | Arrowmaster | Amarande: car with an inverter |
| 00:34.31 | Esamynn|work | that wasn't my point Amarande :P |
| 00:34.34 | mckenziemc | Amarande: you don't have to keep the computer ready for you to type in IRC all week |
| 00:34.40 | Amarande | Esamynn: yeah, it was plugged in |
| 00:34.43 | Arrowmaster | that or gas generator |
| 00:34.51 | Arrowmaster | that was my other option |
| 00:34.57 | Amarande | I did not anticipate the storm to be quite as bad as it was (no one did, really), and wasn't home to see the power fluctuate before going out |
| 00:35.08 | Esamynn|work | has never experienced a power outage longer than a few hours |
| 00:35.17 | Arrowmaster | 5 days |
| 00:35.21 | Esamynn|work | erk |
| 00:35.22 | mckenziemc | has |
| 00:35.31 | Amarande | I worked 8-4:30 that day, and actually due to hopelessly blocked streets in the area after the storm started, I actually had to sleep in the breakroom at work that night so I didn't even get home till the day after |
| 00:35.43 | Arrowmaster | i ran the cablemodem, router, and laptop off my car inverter and had internet the entire time |
| 00:35.47 | mckenziemc | pities Amarande. |
| 00:36.07 | Amarande | by then, the power had been out for the better part of a day already, and did not come back for a week |
| 00:36.32 | Amarande | You know what the really strange thing is though? |
| 00:36.39 | Amarande | I'm still not sure how the motherboard managed to get fried at all. |
| 00:37.06 | Amarande | The "surge protection's still working" lights on my surge strips were both still lit, and the PSU got a clean bill of health from the repair shop and I'm still using it now |
| 00:37.20 | Esamynn|work | ROFL |
| 00:37.37 | Amarande | As in, it puzzles me that something power related would fry the mobo but leave the PSU perfectly okay |
| 00:37.43 | Amarande | you'd think it would fry the latter as well in such a case |
| 00:37.46 | Esamynn|work | yah, that is strange |
| 00:38.40 | Arrowmaster | i just have PSUs fry on me all the time |
| 00:38.58 | Arrowmaster | ok not really, just this one PSU model has fried on me twice now |
| 00:39.08 | Amarande | I've considered getting a UPS, but I'm not entirely sure if I can get one that's quality as well as beefy enough for a gaming machine that isn't horribly expensive |
| 00:39.38 | Amarande | VA ratings don't seem to really map out to watts, despite basic physics (I know more than enough physics to know that volts times amps equals watts) |
| 00:40.04 | Arrowmaster | Amarande: look at what APC has in the 1500VA range |
| 00:40.13 | Amarande | nor am I sure if having an 850W PSU actually means the computer regularly uses the whole 850W |
| 00:40.21 | Amarande | Arrow: which brand of PSU have you been using? |
| 00:40.28 | Arrowmaster | coolermaster |
| 00:40.36 | Amarande | I've had a Raidmax and a Thermaltake crap out on me in past years |
| 00:40.48 | Amarande | am presently using a Corsair, and after that power outage incident I can definitely give them a "champ" rating |
| 00:41.03 | Esamynn|work | Amarande: no, the chances of you ever even coming close to 850W draw are non-existant |
| 00:41.06 | Arrowmaster | ive had http://amzn.com/B003Y24DEU in my amazon wishlist for a while now, not sure if its still the latest model in that range though |
| 00:41.14 | Amarande | Actually, the Raidmax didn't actually reach the point of failure |
| 00:41.39 | Amarande | It only reached the point of the fan failing, at which point I immediately ordered the Thermaltake one with rush processing |
| 00:41.47 | Esamynn|work | Amarande: how many graphics cards? (and which card?) |
| 00:42.01 | Amarande | I'm not sure what killed the TT one. One night I decided to turn off my PC to save power, the next morning it just wouldn't power on |
| 00:42.14 | Arrowmaster | must be nice to have a job and be able to afford rush processing and fast shipping |
| 00:42.17 | Amarande | it was sudden, with no indication the PSU was struggling |
| 00:42.27 | Amarande | Esamynn: EVGA GeForce 250 GTS, a single card |
| 00:42.52 | Amarande | The TT was also an old-style four-rail architecture PSU, too, which possibly had to do with that. |
| 00:42.55 | Esamynn|work | oh, APC, 1500VA range will be more than enough |
| 00:43.02 | Arrowmaster | the PSU calculators ive used have told me i need at least a 750w PSU |
| 00:43.05 | Amarande | The Corsair is a "single massive 12V" paradigm |
| 00:43.13 | Amarande | which I think is the only sane way to build a gaming PC anymore |
| 00:43.35 | Esamynn|work | let's see, my rig with an i7, GTX 560, and water cooling draws around 300 w, with 2 24" screens |
| 00:43.39 | Arrowmaster | this coolermaster that keeps craping out on me is a 4 rail |
| 00:43.46 | Amarande | Arrow: that's probably a major reason |
| 00:43.47 | Esamynn|work | (at idle), and not more than 400w under load |
| 00:43.54 | Amarande | Four-rail PSUs aren't really good for gaming rigs anymore |
| 00:44.10 | Amarande | The trouble is that video cards draw *that* many amps now, that you burn out the rail it's on because no single rail really has enough draw to handle it |
| 00:44.27 | Amarande | You really want one of those ones with a single rail, no way are you going to use up 70A total on the 12V line |
| 00:44.36 | Arrowmaster | i think all mine were rated for like 28A+ each |
| 00:44.48 | mckenziemc | shorts Amarande's power supply. |
| 00:44.55 | Amarande | But if you had 70A on a four-rail PSU, that would be about 18-20A per rail, which isn't enough for a lot of video cards |
| 00:45.36 | Amarande | I'm thinking to get a newer GTX soon, though, not just for performance but because the GTS, while a champ, doesn't have DX11 support |
| 00:45.36 | Arrowmaster | other problem with 4rail is you dont know which rail is which |
| 00:45.52 | Amarande | Arrow: yeah that too, and oftentimes the rails *don't* have the same capacities, to make it even more annoying |
| 00:46.39 | Esamynn|work | Amarande: anything APC Back-UPS Pro 1000 or higher will be fine for you, (will even do the screens) (the 700 would *probably* be fine, but I wouldn't risk it |
| 00:49.29 | Amarande | ah |
| 00:49.33 | Amarande | will it still be adequate if I get a 660 Ti? |
| 00:49.47 | Amarande | or a 670, perhaps, if I feel spendy later in the year (not buying hardware till at least after I get home from Dragon Con) |
| 00:50.12 | Arrowmaster | the reason i had that 1500A back-ups pro in my wishlist was you could also expand it with an external battery |
| 00:52.05 | Esamynn|work | Amarande: I think you'd still be fine, 1000 is rated for 600W |
| 00:52.12 | Esamynn|work | 1500 is rated for more than your PSU |
| 00:52.42 | Arrowmaster | being rated for more just means it will last longer |
| 00:52.59 | Esamynn|work | ^ |
| 00:53.21 | Esamynn|work | if you're anywhere close to the limit of your PSU you're already in trouble, and with an 850W PSU, running SERIOUS hardware |
| 00:53.47 | Arrowmaster | so time how long it takes you to get out the generator and run the power cord inside and get one to last at least that long |
| 00:53.50 | Esamynn|work | s/SERIOUS/CRAZY/ |
| 00:54.06 | Amarande | Yeah, it would probably at least take something grossly OP like dual GTX 690's to max out that PSU |
| 00:54.32 | Amarande | and, not only would I not spend that kind of money on a video card, but this mobo doesn't even take two video cards |
| 00:54.33 | Esamynn|work | Arrowmaster: heh, I'd worry about that if I'd been in a power outage longer than 30 minutes in the last 20 years |
| 00:54.42 | Esamynn|work | s/I'd/I might/ |
| 00:55.21 | Arrowmaster | Esamynn|work: neighbors on both sides have gas generators, tells you about the quality of our power lines here |
| 00:55.29 | Esamynn|work | haha |
| 00:55.39 | Arrowmaster | nothing is buried |
| 00:55.41 | Amarande | (Besides, frequently, you actually can't get a x90 nVidia card readily at all no matter *how* rich you are, unless you pre-ordered it before that generation even came out ... heh) |
| 00:55.52 | Esamynn|work | nothing is buried where I live either |
| 00:56.30 | kd3 | wait, what!? apple won!? |
| 00:56.33 | Amarande | Remember the infamous blink-of-the-eye disappearance of the GTX 590? :) |
| 00:56.36 | kd3 | lets out a long sigh |
| 00:56.44 | mckenziemc | won what |
| 00:56.46 | Esamynn|work | the Wet Coast is awesome, though I might change my tune if/when the big quake hits |
| 00:56.57 | Amarande | kd3: in a way that makes multiple Arsians think that Judge Koh pretty much fixed it to go that way |
| 00:56.58 | kd3 | http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/08/apple-v-samsung-verdict/ |
| 00:57.06 | Arrowmaster | kd3: dont worry theres still google vs apple |
| 00:57.42 | Amarande | kd3: most notably, basic facts were suppressed (like the fact that the "recognise a number in a text" thing has no novelty at all, it's just basic text parsing) |
| 00:57.49 | Amarande | and apparently the jury was rushed |
| 00:58.04 | Amarande | despite the fact that they had a huge document they should have been carefully considering |
| 00:59.29 | Amarande | moreover, the verdict's results got to the trading floor with almost unnatural rapidity judging by the massive spike in Apple stock later today, which many are taking as a sign that Apple had a hand somehow in the judgment |
| 01:00.05 | Arrowmaster | are you emplying they bribed the jury and judge? |
| 01:00.11 | Arrowmaster | because i wouldnt be supprised |
| 01:01.03 | Amarande | Or there was existing bias |
| 01:01.31 | Amarande | which I wouldn't be surprised of either, given that Apple vs. Android tends to be practically up there with religions in terms of how zealous people get |
| 01:01.37 | Esamynn|work | Arrowmaster: WTF is "emplying" |
| 01:01.38 | Esamynn|work | ? |
| 01:01.51 | kd3 | s/em/im/ |
| 01:01.54 | Arrowmaster | i dont have spell check on this client, dont blame me |
| 01:02.02 | Amarande | Or, in the judge's case (as it looks that the way the judge handled the case heavily impacted the outcome) |
| 01:02.04 | Esamynn|work | ~poke Arrowmaster |
| 01:02.04 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Arrowmaster, pokes Arrowmaster repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 01:02.13 | mckenziemc | blame Torhal |
| 01:02.15 | Amarande | that they decided to short circuit justice and decide it would be better for America to make sure the decision went to Apple |
| 01:02.23 | Esamynn|work | mckenziemc: I blame you |
| 01:02.28 | mckenziemc | ok :( |
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| 01:02.38 | Amarande | considering that we're talking about the future welfare of a company that has been known on times to have more cash on hand *than the whole of the United States Government* |
| 01:03.05 | Esamynn|work | https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-s-q59Ddhask/T-7gqITVmTI/AAAAAAAACRQ/v1EjsKgB-bY/s973/the_apple_cycle.jpg |
| 01:03.07 | Esamynn|work | nuf said |
| 01:03.56 | Amarande | (I'm actually not exaggerating about that either ... specifically, at the time in late July last year when the US was on the brink of default, Apple really did have more wealth on hand than the government) |
| 01:06.17 | Amarande | and, in terms of government opinions, depending on someone's political leanings, I can easily see some ... not very good elements wanting to see Android delivered hammer blows |
| 01:06.37 | Amarande | If Android is pushed out of the way, we get that much closer to the ideal world of Hollywood, which is one where computers are locked-down devices where a corporate party decides what you can and can't do with them |
| 01:07.16 | Amarande | Apple has already locked down their platform (s? not sure how far they've progressed on Mac OS X in that regard, but iOS definitely). Which is probably major "Good boy!" points from many powerful elements in this country. :| |
| 01:07.21 | mckenziemc | dammit Amarande |
| 01:07.26 | mckenziemc | take it to the forums |
| 01:08.25 | Amarande | Microsoft is perhaps gradually heading in that way (the desktop in W8 is still open as always but Metro is restricted to the Windows Store which has an approval process with a very apply scent to it, and many think that this is a transition stage towards a Metro-only future). |
| 01:09.30 | Amarande | Only Google among the major vendors seems to steadfastly champion an open platform with no indication of this changing. :| |
| 01:09.55 | Amarande | I wonder how many powerful elements there are, indeed, who would stop at not much of anything to eliminate this ... "annoyance." :P |
| 01:13.18 | Esamynn|work | the first, best step, would be to ... silence anyone who identifies themselves as a member of the "tea party" :P |
| 01:14.03 | Esamynn|work | purely on the ground of weeding out stupidity *weg* |
| 01:14.51 | Torhal | mckenziemc: Why should I be blamed on Arrowmaster's lack of caring about the proper way to spell "implying"? |
| 01:14.56 | Torhal | :P |
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| 01:16.35 | Arrowmaster | Esamynn|work: there should be quotes around "silence" |
| 01:19.50 | Esamynn|work | there are plenty of methods which would achieve the desired end, some more complicated and involved than others |
| 01:19.56 | mckenziemc | ""silence"" ? |
| 01:20.08 | Esamynn|work | haha |
| 01:20.16 | Esamynn|work | ~cookie mckenziemc |
| 01:20.25 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 01:20.27 | Esamynn|work | O_o |
| 01:20.29 | kd3 | oops |
| 01:21.16 | Amarande | yay, 525 engi |
| 01:21.25 | Amarande | and I think I have just enough money to afford the mats for my goggles, too |
| 01:23.56 | Amarande | wow, only 235g for a truegold tonight |
| 01:24.02 | Amarande | <3 this server |
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| 01:27.37 | Kaylin | so what does the apple/samsung ruling mean to me, not using smart phones or anything, how does this impact future legal issues etc? |
| 01:27.58 | mckenziemc | ask amarande, i'm sure he has plenty to say |
| 01:28.39 | Arrowmaster | Kaylin: it means apple has bought the legal system |
| 01:28.55 | Arrowmaster | sorry, "aquired" |
| 01:29.47 | durcyn | spew hyperbole much |
| 01:29.55 | Amarande | actually, right now, I'm pondering whether I should equip my goggles |
| 01:30.07 | Amarande | (well, when I ding, but I'm only 6 bars from 85) |
| 01:30.12 | Amarande | or if I should put them up on the ah instead |
| 01:30.12 | Esamynn|work | Software Patents are perhaps the stupidest thing to ever come out of the patent office |
| 01:31.36 | Amarande | *sniff* onto the AH you go, goggles :( |
| 01:31.46 | Kaylin | amarande which goggles? |
| 01:32.58 | Esamynn|work | Amarande: given that MoP will be out in a few weeks and will make them obsolete, why would you try to sell them? |
| 01:33.21 | Amarande | oh, right, they're BoP |
| 01:33.25 | Amarande | *headdesk* |
| 01:33.30 | Amarande | why does Auctioneer claim they're worth that much, heh |
| 01:33.44 | Amarande | for that matter: when is norganna ever going to fix that glitch in auctioneer |
| 01:34.04 | Amarande | that bug has existed pretty much ever since I started playing wow |
| 01:34.24 | Amarande | Kaylin: the 525 engineering cloth ones |
| 01:34.37 | mckenziemc | i bet they have a bug tracker; maybe you should go look |
| 01:34.55 | Kaylin | ah okay bc I was wondering the ones I knew of were bop and yea that makes sense now |
| 01:35.07 | Esamynn|work | Amarande: patches welcome :P |
| 01:35.35 | arton | Is there an addon site I can enter stat rates to influence my searches? I thought WoWhead did this, but I can't find it. |
| 01:35.42 | arton | Not an addon site. |
| 01:35.45 | Esamynn|work | (not to mention norganna hasn't worked on anything wow related in years) |
| 01:35.46 | arton | A gear site. :D |
| 01:36.08 | Esamynn|work | wowhead does do that, iirc |
| 01:36.13 | arton | k |
| 01:36.59 | arton | There we go. I found it. |
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| 01:46.19 | Arrowmaster | lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv-V5wY5GoI&feature=youtu.be |
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| 01:55.23 | bassgeisha | yay my regular alias |
| 01:55.25 | bassgeisha | fits |
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| 01:56.34 | Adys | http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/yrgsz/update_100_years_old_time_capsule_opened_in/c5y8a37?context=1 |
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| 02:05.38 | kd3 | d'aww... http://i.imgur.com/9pBg1.jpg |
| 02:06.46 | Adys | http://fixencoding.com/# awesome |
| 02:06.54 | Adys | the guy who made the python lib made it into a website |
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| 02:23.01 | arton | Are the new LFR rules the same for LFG? Also, do these loot rule changes go in on the 28th with the patch? |
| 02:23.13 | arton | LFR rules on MoP I mean. |
| 02:23.36 | kd3 | lfr rules are for lfr only |
| 02:23.41 | arton | k |
| 02:23.53 | kd3 | afaik they land with the patch on tuesday |
| 02:23.58 | arton | nods. |
| 02:24.00 | arton | cool |
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| 02:58.56 | Arrowmaster | well that ended awesome http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/yrs1q/my_professor_called_me_sexist_because_i_use_the/c5ybqwa |
| 03:04.17 | mckenziemc | rofl |
| 03:05.39 | Dagmar | lol don't use words other people don't understand |
| 03:06.28 | mckenziemc | i'm sorry dagmar could you clarify what "other people" means? |
| 03:06.44 | Dagmar | I really like his counter to that |
| 03:07.16 | Dagmar | Especially since I semi-recently almost wound up in HR over my use of the term "black hole" |
| 03:07.36 | mckenziemc | o.O |
| 03:07.55 | Dagmar | Yes there's good reason I havent' transferred into the security group |
| 03:08.21 | Dagmar | There was a whole *host* of terms the guy wasn't familiar with. 'tar baby' being one of them |
| 03:08.38 | kd3 | o_O |
| 03:08.54 | Dagmar | This is why you don't transfer people into network security from the desktop support group. |
| 03:09.16 | Semlar | who did you call a black hole |
| 03:09.19 | Dagmar | ...the curmudgeony unix admin group develop perpetual sneers. |
| 03:09.39 | Dagmar | I didn't call someone a black hole |
| 03:09.40 | Mr_Rabies | going through my old screenshots |
| 03:09.48 | Mr_Rabies | http://i.imgur.com/RsEm1.jpg this guy |
| 03:09.57 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: get me a job |
| 03:10.06 | Amarande | Heh, when I think of the phrase 'tar baby' I think of the Spawns from the first Quake |
| 03:10.13 | Amarande | which were often given that moniker |
| 03:10.22 | Amarande | (because they actually *did* look like little blobs of tar) |
| 03:10.27 | Dagmar | Yeah well, I think of a host whose only purpose in life is to attract and delay bots |
| 03:10.52 | bluspacecow | ~seen Ackis |
| 03:10.54 | purl | ackis is currently on #wowhead #wowuidev #arl #wowace #curseforge, last said: 'Torhal: the difference between Fisker and I is that I contribute'. |
| 03:10.54 | mckenziemc | goto sleep Amarande |
| 03:10.59 | Dagmar | They didn't much care for it when my desktop set off practically every security alert ever |
| 03:11.19 | Arrowmaster | lol what did you do? |
| 03:11.33 | Dagmar | I installed every little dorky honeypot script I ever wrote |
| 03:11.39 | kd3 | hah |
| 03:12.13 | Dagmar | I will never understand how someone can see "WinGate" vulnerabilities show up on what is clearly a Unix host and not realize immediately that they're being toyed with |
| 03:12.28 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 03:12.42 | kd3 | because nmap clearly says 'wingate'. you can't fool nmap |
| 03:12.43 | kd3 | sighs |
| 03:13.29 | Arrowmaster | i can see only one way for that to happen thats not a honeypot, a VM |
| 03:14.02 | Dagmar | Like I'd ever install Wingate on a VM |
| 03:14.43 | Dagmar | Some software shouldn't just be shunned. It should be erased with a degausser, and all copies of the source burned. |
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| 03:44.44 | Ackis | fuck got a call a half hour ago that there's a showing tomorrow morning for my house and it's fucking dirty as all hell |
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| 03:44.54 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 03:45.01 | Kaylin | O.O |
| 03:45.10 | mckenziemc | not you o.o |
| 03:45.15 | Dagmar | "As you can see, this is a great layout for having wild parties." |
| 03:45.40 | Ackis | not dirty from parties, just dirty from me being a lazyfuck this week and not feeling well |
| 03:46.08 | mckenziemc | s/ this week and not feeling well// |
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| 04:14.34 | Semlar | well i just found a very interesting function on the beta |
| 04:15.02 | Semlar | it appears to give you x,y coordinates in yards |
| 04:15.17 | Semlar | at least as long as you're on the world map |
| 04:16.10 | Arrowmaster | this is so weird http://io9.com/5937406/watch-what-happens-when-you-play-cypress-hill-through-a-squids-fin |
| 04:19.18 | Semlar | it's probably weirder for the squid |
| 04:19.50 | bluipodcow | Gig gory |
| 04:20.15 | bluipodcow | Giggity |
| 04:21.26 | Dagmar | I can see that they're soon going to solve the mystery of why so many white people have no rythym |
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| 04:24.28 | Semlar | i thought it was interesting that they censored the N word and fuck but not shit |
| 04:25.08 | cogwheel | some countries have different standards... |
| 04:25.16 | Mr_Rabies | BBC America doesn't censor shit anytime of day |
| 04:25.17 | cogwheel | australia is more tolerant of "shit" iirc |
| 04:25.25 | Semlar | i have no idea what you can't say on the radio |
| 04:25.50 | Mr_Rabies | radio and broadcast TV are the only two with any laws against content in the US |
| 04:25.56 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure it's a fairly arbitrary list |
| 04:26.36 | Mr_Rabies | cable TV isn't limited at all, you can show anything that's not directly illegal to show |
| 04:35.00 | Dagmar | There's not an organized group of people ready to sue you silly for using the word 'shit'. |
| 04:35.29 | Dagmar | ...and no one's really arguing that ther'es nothing wrong with using the word. |
| 04:44.49 | Mr_Rabies | there is over broadcast TV in the US |
| 04:45.00 | Mr_Rabies | you use "shit" enjoy your fines |
| 04:45.23 | Mr_Rabies | radio, as well, though somehow "Money" by Pink Floyd gets by |
| 04:45.24 | Arrowmaster | nbc censored the lyrics to one of the songs used during the olympics opening, but that was broadcast tv |
| 04:47.40 | Esamynn | ./facepalm |
| 04:48.10 | mckenziemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.44 | bluipodcow | Lol |
| 04:48.51 | Esamynn | O_o |
| 04:49.42 | bluipodcow | Poor Esamynn , getting teased |
| 04:49.57 | Esamynn | story of my life |
| 04:50.39 | mckenziemc | you're next bluipodcow if you don't stop cracking the big end of your eggs |
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| 04:56.41 | bluipodcow | Oh noes ! |
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| 04:59.16 | pompy | http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/521990_487020767994593_1922637874_n.jpg |
| 05:02.07 | bluipodcow | Lol |
| 05:02.26 | Esamynn | ROFL |
| 05:04.37 | Thunder_Child | fuck making a beta driver the 'recomended' driver |
| 05:05.16 | mckenziemc | pompy: relevant: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/33/Dial_up_modem_noises.ogg |
| 05:06.28 | Jamash | /sup |
| 05:07.29 | bassgeisha | that pic of a modem.. i had to reprimand (sp) my bf for saying the sound of a dialup modem sounded like skrillex or something. I was like, DONT YOU DARE. |
| 05:07.29 | batbot | bassgeisha, reprimand is correct. |
| 05:07.34 | bassgeisha | ha |
| 05:07.36 | bassgeisha | nice bot |
| 05:07.46 | Jamash | don't you mean skrillex sounds like modem noise? |
| 05:07.55 | mckenziemc | pats buttbot. |
| 05:08.10 | Jamash | did my attempt to send "/sup" come through OK? |
| 05:08.24 | mckenziemc | yes |
| 05:08.30 | Jamash | this irc client doesn't seem to have a "just send this text even if it has a slash in front" slash command |
| 05:08.39 | Kaylin | which? |
| 05:08.42 | Jamash | adiirc |
| 05:08.45 | Kaylin | ah |
| 05:08.55 | bassgeisha | whatever yes the comparison either way is just horrid |
| 05:09.05 | bassgeisha | dialup modem was a glorious sound |
| 05:09.22 | Jamash | eh |
| 05:09.34 | bassgeisha | Jamash usually i think its shift enter or something |
| 05:09.38 | Jamash | lessee |
| 05:09.39 | Jamash | /// |
| 05:09.46 | Jamash | ah |
| 05:09.48 | bassgeisha | :) |
| 05:09.51 | Jamash | I wrote "////" |
| 05:09.57 | Jamash | /woot |
| 05:10.01 | Jamash | ok so it's just // |
| 05:10.10 | Jamash | good to know |
| 05:10.11 | bassgeisha | /hi |
| 05:10.27 | Jamash | you can also do trickery with unicode zero width non-joiner |
| 05:10.28 | bassgeisha | worked here too. whatever good to know |
| 05:10.52 | Jamash | but that will put ???? on clients that don't grok UTF-8 |
| 05:11.00 | mckenziemc | //aoeu |
| 05:11.03 | mckenziemc | ////aoeu |
| 05:11.05 | mckenziemc | D: |
| 05:11.51 | Jamash | who here goes into a murderous rage whenever anyone on tv or radio says "example dot com backslash foo" |
| 05:12.44 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 05:12.49 | bassgeisha | idk about a murderous rage, but i did see a cheetos commercial that instead of having whatever facebook.com/cheetos it just showed / and a picture of the damn cheetos lol |
| 05:12.52 | Jamash | it happens less than it used to |
| 05:13.20 | bluipodcow | Lol Cheetos |
| 05:13.31 | bluipodcow | Dunno what they are |
| 05:13.41 | bluipodcow | But sound fattening! |
| 05:14.09 | Jamash | corn puffs with cheez dust |
| 05:14.19 | Jamash | addictive |
| 05:15.02 | Jamash | http://xa4.xanga.com/0d5c735424634169663845/w128643682.jpg |
| 05:15.32 | Jamash | I can confirm that http://wondermark.com/601/ works. |
| 05:16.55 | Arrowmaster | if i ever had cheetos and chopsticks at the same time i would do that |
| 05:17.33 | Jamash | ok so, dilemma |
| 05:17.41 | bassgeisha | cheetos are basically corn puffs with cheddar cheese flavoring all over them |
| 05:17.43 | Jamash | watch evangelion 2.22 or play vijear games |
| 05:17.53 | Jamash | [01:14:00] <Jamash> corn puffs with cheez dust |
| 05:17.55 | Arrowmaster | have you ever seen 2.22? |
| 05:17.58 | Jamash | no |
| 05:18.05 | bassgeisha | sorry just saw it jamash |
| 05:18.07 | Jamash | just got the dvd |
| 05:18.10 | Arrowmaster | have you seen the original NGE series? |
| 05:18.12 | Jamash | yes |
| 05:18.17 | Arrowmaster | oh you got the dvd? then its not 2.22 |
| 05:18.21 | bassgeisha | i'm just gonna sit here and repeat everything u say ;\ |
| 05:18.21 | Jamash | yes it is |
| 05:18.24 | Jamash | it says so on the box |
| 05:18.31 | Arrowmaster | no its not, the US version fucked up the numbering |
| 05:18.48 | Arrowmaster | 2.0 was the theater release, 2.2 was the dvd, 2.22 was the bluray |
| 05:18.53 | Jamash | oh |
| 05:19.02 | Arrowmaster | but some asshat put 2.22 on the US dvd |
| 05:19.02 | Jamash | well anyway it's the special version with extra features and shit |
| 05:19.40 | Arrowmaster | 2.22 is where the changes from the original series start to show up |
| 05:19.45 | Arrowmaster | its still good though |
| 05:20.12 | Arrowmaster | if you dont like major changes youll be screaming WHAT THE FUCK at the end |
| 05:20.22 | Jamash | I'm fine with changes |
| 05:20.33 | Jamash | if it wasn't changed I could just rewatch the original |
| 05:20.54 | Jamash | anyway I think I'll wait until tomorrow |
| 05:20.55 | Arrowmaster | i do that some times |
| 05:20.56 | Jamash | it's kind of late here |
| 05:21.06 | Wobin | Any folk GW2ing? |
| 05:21.17 | Jamash | my friend is, but not I |
| 05:21.19 | Arrowmaster | although for some stupid reason i keep trying to rewatch the last two episodes |
| 05:21.24 | Arrowmaster | even though i know i shouldnt |
| 05:21.24 | Jamash | uh |
| 05:21.40 | Jamash | I have a hypothesis I would like to run by you |
| 05:21.49 | Jamash | People who don't get eva have never been seriously depressed |
| 05:22.31 | Arrowmaster | you understand the last 2 episodes? |
| 05:22.38 | Jamash | I read that Anno made eva in part as a way of dealing with depression |
| 05:22.44 | Jamash | I've been clinically depressed since grade school and eva makes perfect sense to me |
| 05:22.59 | bassgeisha | depression fucking sucks. |
| 05:23.05 | Jamash | yes |
| 05:23.49 | Arrowmaster | well i understand the ending but its still a major WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU DO THAT TO PEOPLE |
| 05:23.57 | Jamash | I keep seeing "Stop whining, Shinji!" on the internets |
| 05:24.14 | bassgeisha | I'm sorry wtf is eva? |
| 05:24.24 | Arrowmaster | anime |
| 05:24.28 | Jamash | which, I hypothesize, is a result of people who don't get depression having trouble comprehending a character who has it |
| 05:24.40 | bassgeisha | ty |
| 05:24.42 | bassgeisha | sorry ;) |
| 05:24.59 | bassgeisha | I know the reason I love Sheldon on big bang theory is bc i relate to him |
| 05:25.10 | bassgeisha | god that character cracks me up all the time |
| 05:25.49 | Esamynn | bassgeisha: so you're an egotistical, condescending asshole? :P |
| 05:26.05 | Jamash | it's really hamhanded with its portrayal of nerds |
| 05:26.18 | bassgeisha | lol no more of the OCD part |
| 05:26.24 | Esamynn | lol |
| 05:26.37 | Jamash | seriously, a nerd of his caliber who's never heard of text adventure games? |
| 05:26.38 | bassgeisha | definitely not dysfunctional ocd but omg |
| 05:27.01 | Jamash | the entirety of zork is included in call of duty black ops |
| 05:27.06 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: what? |
| 05:27.21 | bassgeisha | I think I'm somewhere between penny and amy. |
| 05:27.21 | Jamash | yeah |
| 05:27.22 | Arrowmaster | they reference zord on bigbang |
| 05:27.26 | Arrowmaster | zork |
| 05:27.37 | Arrowmaster | sheldon does it |
| 05:27.41 | Jamash | there was an episode where he was apparently experiencing text adventures for the very first time |
| 05:27.51 | bluipodcow | Zord or zork |
| 05:27.54 | Jamash | and saying every single thing he read and wrote out loud |
| 05:27.57 | bassgeisha | what like mudding or |
| 05:28.06 | Jamash | it was kind of painful to watch |
| 05:28.14 | Esamynn | oh piffle |
| 05:28.19 | Esamynn | don't be such a tightwad |
| 05:28.29 | Jamash | I'm just reporting my subjective experience |
| 05:28.30 | Arrowmaster | i believe its the episode where he invites new friends over and one of the options on what to do is play the classic text based adventure game zork |
| 05:28.52 | bassgeisha | i mean i totally agree they overdo the stereotypes on bbt, but if any sort of uh, non nerdy person tunes into it they'd need it |
| 05:28.57 | Arrowmaster | but they all get drunk and play rockband while the comic book store owner takes a shower |
| 05:29.08 | Jamash | his roommate was trying to sneak a woman past him and he was in the living room playing a text adventure game as though he had never heard of such a thing in his life |
| 05:29.24 | bassgeisha | i haven't seen that episode lol |
| 05:29.38 | bassgeisha | just saw im sure a rerun of sheldon's virtual presence device |
| 05:29.39 | bluipodcow | But the shows not about getting no nerdy types to relate to it IMHO |
| 05:29.43 | Arrowmaster | i remember it but i dont think he was playing it for the first time |
| 05:29.56 | Jamash | the laugh track is the worst part |
| 05:30.08 | Esamynn | O_o |
| 05:30.10 | Esamynn | laugh track? |
| 05:30.11 | Jamash | <sheldon says anything at all> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 05:30.18 | bassgeisha | arrow: agreed, but my experience in my job's marketing dept is that is like a basic rule to try and appeal to as many ppl as possible |
| 05:30.44 | Esamynn | Jamash: just fyi, they film in front of an audience, it isn't a laugh track |
| 05:30.46 | bluipodcow | Agreed jamash |
| 05:30.49 | durcyn | people still watch two and a half nerds? |
| 05:30.57 | bluipodcow | I don't a signal to laugh |
| 05:31.11 | durcyn | chuck lorre hasn't been launched into the nearest star? |
| 05:31.12 | Jamash | laugh track is a laugh track even if it's filmed in front of an audience |
| 05:31.15 | bluipodcow | Well then edit it to tone it down |
| 05:31.18 | durcyn | you people are making mistakes. |
| 05:31.35 | Jamash | http://www.ugo.com/tv/11-reasons-geeks-hate-the-big-bang-theory-the-laugh-track |
| 05:31.35 | bluipodcow | Nz DVD version is just all laugh track |
| 05:31.56 | Jamash | there's probably a giant neon sign that says "LAUGH" |
| 05:31.59 | Jamash | in the studio |
| 05:32.05 | bluipodcow | Impossible to hear anything over the laugh track |
| 05:32.21 | bluipodcow | Oooo is there one for sexy wolf whistle |
| 05:33.14 | bassgeisha | i want to go on set for daily show and colbert |
| 05:33.41 | bluipodcow | You just want to fondle Shelton :P |
| 05:34.41 | bassgeisha | hmmm |
| 05:34.48 | bassgeisha | not particularly no |
| 05:35.01 | bluipodcow | Awwwwww |
| 05:35.20 | bassgeisha | i'd rather hire the character to follow me around and basically be himself so i'd just lol all damn day |
| 05:36.00 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: everything about that "article" i find wrong |
| 05:36.19 | Arrowmaster | also the douchebag has a link "Join me on the New Digg" |
| 05:36.34 | bassgeisha | sheldon strikes me as like totally awkward in bed type of guy |
| 05:36.59 | Arrowmaster | bassgeisha: .............. |
| 05:37.36 | Jamash | Arrowmaster: it's painful to watch |
| 05:37.52 | Arrowmaster | and that article was painful to read |
| 05:38.49 | Jamash | well I've only had to sit through one or two episodes |
| 05:38.58 | Jamash | so I can't comment on the show as a whole |
| 05:39.03 | Jammer | what's up with all the hate against one of the best sitcoms around :( |
| 05:39.33 | Jamash | but what I saw was ruined by the laugh track, poor writing and cheap stereotypes |
| 05:39.38 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: go find the episode where they tell the story of how the elevator broke |
| 05:39.47 | Jamash | my conclusion was that the show is probably just bad |
| 05:40.04 | Jamash | whereas as that article points out, community, the IT crowd and futurama are much better |
| 05:40.09 | bassgeisha | what?! |
| 05:40.10 | Jamash | so who needs it |
| 05:40.16 | bassgeisha | he's fucking scared of everything |
| 05:40.24 | bassgeisha | why would a girls vag be any different lol |
| 05:40.32 | Arrowmaster | he would never get there |
| 05:40.40 | bluipodcow | @jammer one mans trash is another's treasure |
| 05:41.08 | bluipodcow | @ja |
| 05:41.10 | bassgeisha | exactly lol |
| 05:41.34 | bluipodcow | @jamash have yo tried turning it off then on again? |
| 05:41.46 | Jamash | I turned it off and then kept it off |
| 05:42.00 | bassgeisha | however, i highly respect his implied intelligence. Guys that are smarter than me and don't mind me asking wtf after they talk way above my head are totally hot |
| 05:42.00 | bluipodcow | Hehe |
| 05:43.45 | Jamash | on the other hand I watched the "remedial chaos theory" episode of community online and found it hilarious, while being just as nerdy (or more nerdy) than BBT |
| 05:44.02 | bassgeisha | i can't stand a guy that isn't intelligent or doesnt know wtf I'M talking about immediate turn off and i gotta dumb down the convo nty |
| 05:44.17 | bassgeisha | really what |
| 05:44.21 | bassgeisha | is this some indie thing? |
| 05:44.25 | Jamash | no |
| 05:44.30 | Jamash | community is funny, BBT isn't |
| 05:44.48 | bassgeisha | is it on tv or just online i'm lost sorry |
| 05:45.02 | Jamash | community is a tv show |
| 05:45.16 | Jamash | it's on NBC |
| 05:45.18 | durcyn | it was, until nbc fired dan harmon |
| 05:45.20 | Jamash | oh |
| 05:45.28 | Jamash | oh well |
| 05:45.43 | durcyn | they've got another season, but who knows if it'll be up to par |
| 05:46.22 | bassgeisha | okay thanks ill dvr it |
| 05:48.04 | bassgeisha | :)) |
| 05:52.03 | bassgeisha | i have a funny event that happened today i'd like to share;p |
| 05:53.01 | Semlar | does anyone know if it's possible to check if a texture has been set successfully, SetTexture always returns 1 and now GetTexture works even when the path is invalid |
| 05:53.10 | bassgeisha | however, since im a newb.. i dont want to blab random shit and be annoying. |
| 05:53.11 | Semlar | on the beta client |
| 06:01.41 | bluipodcow | Blab away IMHO |
| 06:02.31 | Esamynn | if you go on too long, someone will tell you to STFU, don't worry |
| 06:02.36 | Esamynn | :) |
| 06:02.55 | bassgeisha | lol |
| 06:03.13 | bassgeisha | okay its not an epic or anything just a funny like, trip back in time |
| 06:04.32 | bassgeisha | i walked into this game/dvd store by the grocery to see what was up. it was tiny tbh, but ffs filled with of course, nothing but boys. I mean young boys from like middle school to hs max the only one closest to my age (30) had to of been the cashier dude. I walked in and instantly was like okay, what was I expecting again?? (one more backstory) |
| 06:06.13 | bassgeisha | because when I was IN high school I had a group of girlfriends that we all rpg'd together. so we walk into this comic book store ofc the only females in there asking if there was a place for us to rpg at (there were 6-7 of us) and most of the tables were dedicated to warhammer but ffs those owners or whoever got this huge table assembled in like a week all stained and clearcoated |
| 06:07.04 | bassgeisha | I mentally was like *groan* inside when I walked in and saw all the kiddos and got stared at. and just ignored them. |
| 06:07.15 | bassgeisha | *facepalm* |
| 06:07.31 | bluipodcow | Lol |
| 06:08.11 | bassgeisha | tbh i'd like to look around more, but my bf was waiting in the car bc he left town for like 4 days as of this afternoon... so i settled for asking where the biggest comic shop was in my city bc they are so hard to find |
| 06:08.22 | bassgeisha | i'd have* |
| 06:08.24 | bassgeisha | liked |
| 06:08.28 | bassgeisha | >.< |
| 06:09.34 | bassgeisha | Xmen is re-doing the age of apocalypse series. I have a couple but I want the collection. blink is the x-men my nickname Ladyblink was after and she was in the 90's age of apocalypse |
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| 06:10.59 | bassgeisha | after throwing and being like "known" in hs for my LAN parties, I actually ended up working my first job in college at a gaming center as the only female cashier lol |
| 06:11.23 | Esamynn | heh |
| 06:11.38 | bassgeisha | i miss those days:( we always played hacky sack outside in the damn dark after the shop closed. |
| 06:12.38 | bassgeisha | however, ddr was the most gd annoying game ever invented. |
| 06:12.39 | bluipodcow | Did you wear a tshirt that days "my eyes are up here <up arrow>" on it |
| 06:12.53 | bassgeisha | LOL nah i had to wear this "Get your game on" logo'd shirt |
| 06:13.46 | bassgeisha | i may be able to find a pic |
| 06:17.13 | bassgeisha | well shit. this is the only one but i obviously wasn't on the clock: https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/167964_10150356640775293_3369172_n.jpg but here are some of the regs wearing the t-shirt: https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/164361_10150356640890293_7921470_n.jpg |
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| 06:17.53 | bluipodcow | Purdy |
| 06:18.04 | bassgeisha | all those monitors? i know rite?? |
| 06:18.08 | bassgeisha | hehe |
| 06:18.30 | bassgeisha | weird shit: my last hs lan party was 22pcs, at the lan...22 pcs |
| 06:19.01 | bassgeisha | i dont miss the crts |
| 06:19.45 | Esamynn | oh god no |
| 06:19.54 | bluipodcow | Both photos are of purdy people IMHO |
| 06:20.44 | bassgeisha | heeh |
| 06:21.08 | bassgeisha | all of the guys in that one pic |
| 06:21.13 | bassgeisha | well and the dude inthe pic im in |
| 06:21.25 | bassgeisha | i whipped all their asses in unreal tournament muhahaha |
| 06:22.13 | bassgeisha | i can think of maybe...2 or 3 that were on my level or i was just slightly better than, but there was this one guy unixpeon ffs he was so good he'd play in national tournaments n shit |
| 06:22.15 | Esamynn | lol |
| 06:22.41 | bassgeisha | yeah they hated getting fragged by a girl.;) |
| 06:22.59 | bassgeisha | unixpeon helped train me at times. |
| 06:25.54 | bassgeisha | that happened to be longer than i meant to be sorry. that's what i meant by babbling |
| 06:27.12 | AcidWeb | And GW2 logins servers are down |
| 06:27.16 | AcidWeb | That was fast ;] |
| 06:31.51 | Thunder_Child | although once you are in it seems fine |
| 06:32.45 | AcidWeb | i was kicked right after character creation. |
| 06:33.49 | Arrowmaster | bassgeisha: my gf at the time had to go up against dogpound in the first round of a ut2k4 tourny at a local lan, if you know who that is |
| 06:34.21 | Thunder_Child | maybe just within a world then |
| 06:34.26 | bassgeisha | unfortunately i do not. i'm assuming a damn good gamer |
| 06:34.34 | Arrowmaster | pro |
| 06:34.41 | bassgeisha | yep. instafrag. |
| 06:34.49 | Esamynn | ouch |
| 06:34.55 | Arrowmaster | she was so happy the one kill she got on him |
| 06:34.55 | bassgeisha | i never won a single round with unixpeon, BUT i learned. |
| 06:35.07 | bassgeisha | which was the point |
| 06:35.09 | bassgeisha | i mean he was like |
| 06:35.14 | bassgeisha | 50x better than me |
| 06:35.45 | bassgeisha | and it may have been him that showed me how to more easily do the forward back strafe shit |
| 06:35.57 | bassgeisha | i use asdf insead of wasd |
| 06:36.04 | bassgeisha | or sdfg |
| 06:36.07 | bassgeisha | just depends |
| 06:36.35 | bassgeisha | more easily |
| 06:36.39 | bassgeisha | my grammars are fail tonight. |
| 06:36.51 | bassgeisha | or im tired wtf is that correct engrish |
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| 06:37.32 | Esamynn | bassgeisha: I forgive you, you're american :P |
| 06:37.53 | bassgeisha | lol |
| 06:38.04 | Esamynn | :) |
| 06:39.26 | Arrowmaster | now youve gotten me remembering all kinds of stuff my my lan party days |
| 06:39.33 | Esamynn | same here |
| 06:39.35 | Arrowmaster | and i cant type either |
| 06:39.53 | Arrowmaster | i heard so much shit about fatality from other pros |
| 06:39.57 | Esamynn | a group of us used to spend all Friday evening back in highschool playing Quake and SC |
| 06:40.08 | Esamynn | in a computer lab at the school |
| 06:40.34 | Arrowmaster | we had cs1.5 on all the computers in our cisco lab |
| 06:40.55 | Arrowmaster | i ran the server |
| 06:41.56 | Arrowmaster | cs tourny players where the winnist bitches ever |
| 06:42.38 | Arrowmaster | one team at a big lan party kept bitching at me about the server tick rate wasnt at 100 |
| 06:42.46 | bassgeisha | I have a lot of pics from the hs lans. but the cyberlan photos were all on a server and when it shut down, erm, well basically the owner has them all. |
| 06:43.02 | Esamynn | doh |
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| 06:43.11 | Arrowmaster | i had to yell at them that it was a linux server and you cant change the tick rate without recompiling the kernel so fucking deal with it |
| 06:43.20 | Esamynn | lol |
| 06:44.00 | Arrowmaster | that was also the lan party where i ended up running almost all the tourny servers for most the games and i wasnt even staff for that one |
| 06:44.40 | Arrowmaster | i just happened to be the only one there in the middle of the night that could figure out how to get a quake4 server up and running on linux since the game had just came out |
| 06:46.01 | bassgeisha | were these personal lans or like cover charge type thing |
| 06:46.18 | Arrowmaster | both |
| 06:47.34 | Arrowmaster | we started hosting our own lan parties and had upto 30 people probably every month, we also parterned with a major lan that happened twice a year |
| 06:48.40 | bassgeisha | cool! |
| 06:48.46 | bassgeisha | what is that huge lan i always wanted to go to |
| 06:48.51 | bassgeisha | >.< |
| 06:49.07 | bassgeisha | it would be forever away from where I am but it was massive. |
| 06:49.16 | bassgeisha | hundreds of ppl afaik |
| 06:49.36 | bassgeisha | it isn't blizzcon is it? do they have a 3 day lan? |
| 06:49.37 | Arrowmaster | we had hundreds at the bi-yearly ones |
| 06:49.47 | Arrowmaster | quakefest? |
| 06:50.09 | Arrowmaster | i thought quakefest had a byoc section at one time |
| 06:50.24 | bassgeisha | oo maybe that was it |
| 06:50.35 | bluipodcow | One advantage being female at those things - small queue for bathroom |
| 06:50.49 | bassgeisha | i'd have to put in a lot of practice before i ever go to a big lan like that. |
| 06:50.59 | bassgeisha | its just been so long |
| 06:51.49 | Esamynn | honestly, I gave up on FPSs |
| 06:52.01 | Esamynn | too much twitch required now |
| 06:52.04 | Arrowmaster | whenever i went to a lan, shortly after my computer booted there would always be people browsing my shares to find out what new stuff i had and then spending the entire time downloading it from me |
| 06:53.15 | bassgeisha | haha remember that Y2K scare? |
| 06:53.30 | Esamynn | which part? |
| 06:53.41 | bassgeisha | i/we threw a lan to see if shit would happen. out of idk 10-15 pcs we got 1 blue screen and that was it |
| 06:53.44 | bassgeisha | on nye |
| 06:54.23 | Esamynn | probably not even related to the year |
| 06:54.27 | Semlar | windows |
| 06:54.39 | Semlar | gonna windows |
| 06:55.31 | Arrowmaster | shit its late |
| 06:55.51 | Arrowmaster | ok im going to bed |
| 06:59.49 | bluipodcow | Kk ni ni |
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| 07:42.39 | Fisker | Adys |
| 07:42.42 | Fisker | are you my best friend? |
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| 07:49.59 | Fisker | hey bluipodcow |
| 07:50.10 | Jamash | <crickets> |
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| 08:07.15 | Esamynn | good night |
| 08:07.31 | bluipodcow | Oh hai fisker |
| 08:08.55 | Esamynn | ~lart bluipodcow |
| 08:08.55 | purl | takes a rusty axe and swings it violently, taking bluipodcow's head off |
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| 08:37.55 | Yoshimo | yeha beta client lost its green testicon and is marked as 5.04 (16016) Release x86 ;) |
| 08:38.09 | Fisker | mad Yoshimo ? |
| 08:38.21 | Yoshimo | no im not |
| 08:38.59 | bluipodcow | So mad |
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| 08:41.33 | Fisker | very mad |
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| 08:41.37 | Fisker | the maddest of mad |
| 08:45.24 | bluipodcow | I am so maddely |
| 08:52.37 | bluipodcow | Cambridge UNO hack |
| 08:53.09 | bluipodcow | Cambridge uni hacked ? Anon news twitter has link to usernames and passwords |
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| 09:13.52 | bluipodcow | Blockling a driveway |
| 09:13.55 | bluipodcow | Damn |
| 09:14.17 | bluipodcow | Some peeps are bad spellers here at work |
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| 09:28.11 | Torhal | spells bluipodcow backward to brainwash the youth of today. |
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| 09:33.55 | bluipodcow | Arl ready for patch days? |
| 09:36.13 | Yoshimo | im more worried about collectinator ;) |
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| 09:42.48 | Torhal | bluipodcow: lolno |
| 09:42.55 | bluipodcow | Torhal just scared to update it |
| 09:43.05 | Torhal | bluipodcow: No, working on WoWDBProfiler. |
| 09:43.09 | bluipodcow | Y not :( |
| 09:43.23 | Torhal | Yoshimo: I haven't touched Collectinator since I got it working for Ackis in 2009. |
| 09:43.44 | Torhal | Well, I've fixed a couple of things here and there when pompy told me they were broken, but other than that... |
| 09:44.11 | bluipodcow | What's wowdbprofiler? |
| 09:44.22 | Torhal | Datamining AddOn for wowdb.com |
| 09:45.47 | Yoshimo | well it could also be done by pompachomp, i just noticed it doesnt like the new pet/mount frame , thats all |
| 09:47.24 | Torhal | Yoshimo: He does the DB stuff. |
| 09:47.44 | Torhal | I'll take a look at it as well as getting ARL ready. |
| 09:48.23 | Yoshimo | take your time, its not gamebreaking ;) |
| 09:48.30 | sidji | not? |
| 09:58.54 | cbreak | so... mages will have a mana cap, that means that spirit is once again a mage state? |
| 09:59.02 | cbreak | blizzard really can never decide on anything... |
| 09:59.08 | Maldivia | oh - gw2 opens today |
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| 11:01.43 | mikma | rtharper: http://kuvaton.com/browse/23354/butt_flavor.jpg |
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| 11:06.36 | Maldivia | sounce delicious |
| 11:06.40 | Maldivia | sounds* |
| 11:09.55 | rtharper | hrm |
| 11:09.57 | rtharper | heh |
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| 14:07.36 | Yoshimo | If you get a dialogue from interacting with an object, can you get the objects id to show it in the dialogue somehow? |
| 14:08.27 | Yoshimo | since you do not target it but still have the name in the dialogue i was wondering if thats possible |
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| 14:29.10 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 14:29.12 | Fisker | i like you |
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| 14:36.14 | Uzic | Why doesn't HookScript work with OnEnter and OnLeave if there was no previous handler set? |
| 14:36.26 | Uzic | It works perfectly fine with other events I tried like OnUpdate, OnShow, OnHide, ... |
| 14:40.31 | haste | sounds like a bug |
| 14:42.58 | sidji | EnableMouse(true) |
| 14:43.00 | sidji | ? |
| 14:50.18 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFAQif3aCXw |
| 14:54.35 | Uzic | It is enabled. If I use the same line but with SetScript instead of HookScript or if I add a dummy function previously it fires fine. |
| 14:56.29 | sidji | it's your own frame? |
| 14:59.39 | foxlit | Uzic: Why doesn't HookScript work with OnEnter and OnLeave if there was no previous handler set? << It works for me. There's something you aren't telling us. |
| 15:00.47 | Uzic | Sorry, was testing. So yes, this only happens with floating chat frames (both 1-10 and the temp ones). Other frames I tried - player frame and test button - works fine. |
| 15:12.56 | randomDude1 | hey bluspacecow, that is an innovative apple computer |
| 15:13.05 | bluspacecow | lul |
| 15:13.22 | randomDude1 | from this distances it looks like an ibm |
| 15:13.34 | bluspacecow | oh rly? |
| 15:13.43 | randomDude1 | i feel like i've been ripped off |
| 15:16.14 | randomDude1 | anyway i found that water fountain more interesting |
| 15:17.24 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 15:17.37 | bluspacecow | oh hai |
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| 15:48.13 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 15:48.16 | Fisker | wanna make out? |
| 15:48.50 | bluspacecow | yes :3 |
| 15:51.11 | Esamynn | get a room you two |
| 15:52.00 | Thunder_Child | Careful Esamynn, they may take your room |
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| 16:05.09 | Esamynn | ha! take that, two elite fire chain/molten packs at the SAME TIME! |
| 16:05.29 | Esamynn | fucking lacunai |
| 16:21.18 | foxlit | Esamynn: I do not want your packs, take them back! |
| 16:21.59 | foxlit | arcane enchanted nightmarish vortex frozen and fire chain/molten in a tight corridor. In the crumbling vault. :( |
| 16:22.07 | Esamynn | foxlit: dunno what you're thinking, I keeeled mine |
| 16:22.11 | Esamynn | keeled them dead |
| 16:22.19 | Esamynn | oh ick |
| 16:22.33 | Esamynn | could take em |
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| 16:23.05 | Esamynn | do you need help little foxlit? :P |
| 16:23.27 | foxlit | nah, it's on a timer. They're gone. |
| 16:23.34 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 16:23.38 | Fisker | thank you for being awesome |
| 16:24.09 | Esamynn | foxlit: bah, I was hoping to play coop anyways... way more fun than solo |
| 16:29.18 | haste | yw Fisker |
| 16:29.32 | Fisker | torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-bonanza-monitoring-file-sharers-forbidden-in-norway-120825 |
| 16:29.37 | Fisker | http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-bonanza-monitoring-file-sharers-forbidden-in-norway-120825/ |
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| 16:48.41 | pompy | Kaelten: looks like you arent missin much! http://www.examiner.com/article/guild-wars-2-early-access-launch-is-full-of-connection-errors |
| 16:48.53 | Kaelten | lol |
| 16:50.22 | pompy | Kaelten: when did you place your order with amazon? |
| 16:50.51 | Kaelten | early august |
| 16:55.16 | g0urra | pompy: BUT IT'S ALREADY UP |
| 16:55.21 | g0urra | caps |
| 16:55.57 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFAQif3aCXw |
| 16:56.00 | bluspacecow | relevant. |
| 17:05.16 | Fisker | old b lua_bot |
| 17:05.18 | Fisker | damnit |
| 17:05.19 | Fisker | old bluspacecow |
| 17:05.34 | bluspacecow | imma lua bot ? |
| 17:09.27 | Esamynn | well duh, didn't you know? |
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| 17:11.11 | kd3 | sigh... I can never remember how to spell "coprophilic" |
| 17:12.37 | Esamynn | sweet, plvl 5 pushed me over 27k dps |
| 17:13.37 | Fisker | cease and desist bluspacecow |
| 17:14.01 | bluspacecow | oh ok |
| 17:14.07 | Esamynn | Fisker: a) where's the fun in that? b) why? you wouldn't |
| 17:14.35 | Fisker | sup Esamynn ? |
| 17:14.53 | Esamynn | my D3 Wizard is a god made flesh! |
| 17:15.22 | Kaylin | modeled out of pure polygons! |
| 17:16.18 | bassgeisha | u know, this would kind of be pointless but witht he specs of the newest phones i wouldn't be surprised if they could run a full version of photoshop |
| 17:16.39 | Esamynn | rofl |
| 17:16.48 | bassgeisha | bc i can't stand this bs photoshop express app |
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| 17:18.15 | bassgeisha | they could at least implement curves and layers/layer modes |
| 17:18.22 | Kaylin | has curves. |
| 17:19.53 | Esamynn | in all the right places, or in all the wrong places? :P |
| 17:21.34 | bassgeisha | lol |
| 17:21.41 | bassgeisha | they are customizable so.. |
| 17:21.50 | Esamynn | rofl |
| 17:22.03 | Kaylin | idk which are the right places? :O |
| 17:23.07 | Esamynn | I'd say that's for each individual to judge |
| 17:27.00 | bassgeisha | hehehehe |
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| 17:45.18 | pompy | http://phandroid.com/2012/08/23/amazon-issues-invites-to-press-for-upcoming-september-6th-event/ wonder what they are gunna announce! |
| 17:49.08 | Kaelten | something everyone will forget about a week later |
| 17:53.01 | bluspacecow | a new kindle! |
| 17:53.12 | bluspacecow | one that makes cheetos for you ! |
| 17:53.13 | bluspacecow | :3 |
| 17:53.41 | Esamynn | ~cheeseslap bluspacecow |
| 17:53.42 | purl | ACTION slaps bluspacecow around with a slice of rocquefort |
| 17:53.58 | bluspacecow | classy |
| 17:56.54 | Arrowmaster | i stole a tv and can now use my xbox if anybody wants to play something |
| 17:58.00 | Kaylin | slaps bluspacecow around a bit with her new cheese knife. |
| 17:58.20 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 17:59.20 | Kaylin | it's okay the trailing edge is not sharp |
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| 18:05.29 | Fisker | man adys |
| 18:05.39 | Adys | No manual entry for adys |
| 18:05.43 | Fisker | there are like people with 30k hp that is paragon level 10ish |
| 18:05.51 | Fisker | and running around in act 4 |
| 18:06.23 | Adys | if you got high resists its not an issue really |
| 18:06.29 | Adys | esp for monk/barb |
| 18:06.31 | Esamynn | what does the 30k hp have to do with it? |
| 18:07.17 | Fisker | i dunno Adys |
| 18:07.24 | Esamynn | I specifically avoid going over that number on my Wizard |
| 18:07.26 | Fisker | he was lying so much on the floor that he didn't want to ress anymore |
| 18:07.27 | mckenziemc | idk Fisker |
| 18:07.32 | Fisker | just waiting for us to 3-man everything |
| 18:07.38 | Esamynn | ooooh |
| 18:07.41 | nevcairiel | public games ftl? |
| 18:07.44 | Adys | yeah there are some idiots |
| 18:07.44 | Esamynn | so maybe they don't belong there then |
| 18:07.46 | Adys | but |
| 18:08.16 | Esamynn | I'm making progress in act 3, but still only about 1/2 way :/ |
| 18:08.25 | Esamynn | I'm sure act 4 would kick my butt |
| 18:08.41 | Adys | if you have at least 800-900 res and 5k armor, it gives you a good 75% of 75% of 100% dmg |
| 18:09.06 | nevcairiel | i dunno my armor, but i have around 800 res on my wizard and stuff still hurts a lot :P |
| 18:09.09 | Esamynn | need more than 5k armor for that |
| 18:09.16 | Adys | yeah probably |
| 18:09.19 | Esamynn | 7300 armor is only 71% |
| 18:09.22 | Adys | either way as barb its not an option |
| 18:09.54 | Fisker | i got over 9000 armor |
| 18:11.15 | Esamynn | what?! OVER 9000!?!?! |
| 18:11.59 | mckenziemc | no Esamynn |
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| 18:44.59 | pompy | Kaelten: (8/25/2012 1:48:58 PM) Kaelten: something everyone will forget about a week later <--- that happens with a lot of things |
| 18:45.02 | pompy | :) |
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| 19:14.48 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/5208451335?page=1#15 |
| 19:14.49 | Fisker | tee hee |
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| 19:24.06 | Arrowmaster | lol |
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| 19:24.31 | Fisker | Neil Armstrong died at an age of Expression error: Unrecognised punctuation character "{" |
| 19:24.36 | Fisker | :'( |
| 19:24.41 | Kaylin | :X |
| 19:24.46 | Fisker | it's true |
| 19:24.47 | Fisker | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Armstrong |
| 19:30.12 | jnwhiteh | =( |
| 19:30.48 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 19:30.51 | Fisker | where in sweden? |
| 19:31.03 | jnwhiteh | its part of the penis/balls of europe |
| 19:31.14 | jnwhiteh | in da north! |
| 19:31.25 | Fisker | i don't know about any penis/balls |
| 19:32.15 | jnwhiteh | we move on the 4th |
| 19:32.57 | Fisker | pls i need to know if it's a stonethrow from this guy in sweden i know |
| 19:33.09 | Thunder_Child | "<Fisker> i don't know about any penis/balls" Like anyone believes that. |
| 19:33.14 | Ackis | https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/239437766335819777 |
| 19:33.20 | Fisker | old Ackis |
| 19:33.39 | Fisker | also he wasn't on the moon, he was in a movie studio in nevada |
| 19:34.04 | Thunder_Child | wasnt nevada, it was in a movie studio on the moon |
| 19:34.13 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 19:34.16 | Fisker | i believe that |
| 19:34.32 | kd3 | O_O |
| 19:34.34 | kd3 | has a sad |
| 19:35.48 | oscarucb | anyone had problems with Blizzard's new agent.exe process on XP? |
| 19:38.39 | A-KO | XP? |
| 19:38.44 | oscarucb | windows xp |
| 19:38.59 | Fisker | Windows? |
| 19:38.59 | oscarucb | yes it still exists |
| 19:39.13 | A-KO | why? |
| 19:39.29 | Thunder_Child | Legacy |
| 19:39.41 | oscarucb | I dont know the problem is XP-specific, wsa just saying |
| 19:39.53 | oscarucb | I've noticed it leaving orphan processes laying around |
| 19:42.19 | oscarucb | Am I the only one who finds it alarming that Blizzard is running background processes with admin privileges and network access on all our machines? |
| 19:42.54 | A-KO | why is that alarming? |
| 19:43.13 | oscarucb | Blizzard cannot even keep their own network secure |
| 19:43.21 | oscarucb | and I've seen the quality of their code |
| 19:43.24 | durcyn | you're not worried about the foreground processes with the same access? |
| 19:43.34 | oscarucb | the game does not run as admin |
| 19:43.36 | A-KO | you've seen the quality of their code? |
| 19:43.37 | A-KO | lol |
| 19:43.42 | A-KO | how have you done this? |
| 19:43.45 | Fisker | was that why you were fired from Blizzard oscarucb ? |
| 19:43.51 | A-KO | I know the quality of their code |
| 19:43.52 | Fisker | because you couldn't secure their network? |
| 19:43.53 | oscarucb | look at any FrameXML code lol |
| 19:44.03 | oscarucb | I've never worked for them |
| 19:44.14 | Fisker | so you haven't seen the quality of their code |
| 19:44.15 | Fisker | ok |
| 19:44.19 | durcyn | equating interface scripting with code is a bit of a leap |
| 19:44.26 | Fisker | why didn't you just say so at the beginning? |
| 19:44.29 | oscarucb | It's a general lack of QA |
| 19:44.30 | A-KO | especially xml tagging |
| 19:45.25 | oscarucb | the company has a long history of releasing poorly-tested software, they are more interested in content than software quality |
| 19:45.32 | oscarucb | which is a fine business model for a game company |
| 19:45.33 | A-KO | since when? |
| 19:45.37 | durcyn | [citation needed] |
| 19:45.46 | oscarucb | but not for a company writing admin OS processes |
| 19:46.08 | A-KO | oscarucb: You're still running XP, and you sit here talking shit about application security? lol. |
| 19:46.17 | oscarucb | my XP is fully secured tyvm |
| 19:46.20 | A-KO | haha |
| 19:46.22 | A-KO | it's impossible |
| 19:46.23 | A-KO | FYI |
| 19:46.31 | durcyn | fully secured? it has a game company backdoor on it =) |
| 19:46.42 | oscarucb | well yea aside from that, which is what I'm bitching about |
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| 19:47.14 | A-KO | how many NIST SPs have you followed? Have you enabled FIPS mode only? |
| 19:47.15 | durcyn | anyway warden's been around for quite a while, why start complaining just now |
| 19:47.22 | A-KO | Do you run EMET? |
| 19:47.30 | oscarucb | its only required for D3 and MoP |
| 19:47.34 | A-KO | no ASLR in XP, either. |
| 19:47.36 | A-KO | that's always fun |
| 19:48.01 | oscarucb | and OS aside, this affects all windows users |
| 19:48.04 | bassgeisha | gnaws on a-ko |
| 19:48.16 | A-KO | Y U FOLLOWIN' ME!? :P |
| 19:48.39 | A-KO | oscarucb: Hell, your browsers don't even lower their privilege level in XP |
| 19:48.50 | A-KO | XP is a gaping freaking security hole |
| 19:48.55 | oscarucb | they dont run as admin either |
| 19:48.56 | A-KO | talk to me when you're running Windows 8 |
| 19:49.10 | bassgeisha | lol wat u told me to join this cool chat;) |
| 19:49.12 | oscarucb | oh yea because runnign unreleased OS code is more secure |
| 19:49.17 | A-KO | unreleased? |
| 19:49.19 | A-KO | lol |
| 19:49.23 | durcyn | it's been released to MSDN for two weeks |
| 19:49.37 | oscarucb | brand-new software usually has the most security holes |
| 19:49.42 | A-KO | lol |
| 19:50.00 | A-KO | you're not even with getting into a real discussion with, it's terrible. |
| 19:50.10 | oscarucb | I'm not interested in debating OS, I'm talking about Blizzard's backdoor process here |
| 19:50.23 | oscarucb | which like I said is a hole in everyone's machine |
| 19:51.03 | A-KO | You're running Windows XP, and you're complaining that Blizzard has a process that runs at administrative level on your OS? Please. |
| 19:51.11 | Fisker | this is fun |
| 19:51.15 | oscarucb | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:51.26 | A-KO | Nobody is going to take you seriously. |
| 19:52.24 | Fisker | you must be heartbroken A-KO :D |
| 19:52.37 | A-KO | I am |
| 19:52.42 | A-KO | NIST SP 800-53 is a fun read, btw. |
| 19:52.44 | Fisker | btw oscarucb if you do it without the space in front of / you'll actually ignore him |
| 19:53.03 | oscarucb | yea i was just letting him know I cannot see him anymore |
| 19:53.12 | oscarucb | I'm not interested in his opinion |
| 19:53.23 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 19:53.27 | Kaylin | please do that via PM. |
| 19:53.27 | durcyn | his opinion was a lot more correct than yours, not to mention informed |
| 19:53.28 | Fisker | you're so cool oscarucb |
| 19:53.35 | Fisker | telling people you're putting them on ignore |
| 19:53.40 | Fisker | do you also do that in real life? |
| 19:53.46 | Fisker | "Hey i'm ignoring you from now on" |
| 19:53.54 | Fisker | can i be your friend? |
| 19:53.56 | A-KO | TALK TO THE HAND |
| 19:54.02 | oscarucb | its not generally necessary IRL because ppl are far less rude to your face |
| 19:54.27 | Kaylin | depends on the comp of one's face tbh |
| 19:54.33 | oscarucb | some ppl aren't capable of mature discourse online |
| 19:54.41 | Fisker | like that oscarucb guy |
| 19:54.49 | Fisker | how mature is telling people you're ignoring them? :) |
| 19:54.51 | Kalroth | ya wat fiskr siad lolol |
| 19:54.51 | oscarucb | k this channel is obviously worthless |
| 19:54.52 | A-KO | FYI: running task manager in Windows 8 requires admin now |
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| 19:54.57 | Fisker | bye |
| 19:55.13 | Fisker | hemad |
| 19:56.11 | Esamynn | you guys enjoyed that :P |
| 19:56.21 | Kalroth | A-KO, running windows 8 requires you to be insane though |
| 19:56.26 | Kalroth | like Fisker is |
| 19:56.33 | Stanzilla | or me |
| 19:56.38 | A-KO | dunno, I'm enjoying 8 |
| 19:56.49 | Kalroth | welp, fisker 1, 2 and 3 |
| 19:57.05 | durcyn | A-KO: you upgrade from 7, or clean install? i'm feeling lazy |
| 19:57.10 | A-KO | clean install always |
| 19:57.11 | A-KO | IMO |
| 19:57.23 | A-KO | I needed a reinstall anyway, I ran an install of 7 from 12/25/2009 until last week |
| 19:57.57 | Fisker | Windows 8 is fine |
| 19:58.02 | Fisker | i did an upgrade was fine |
| 19:58.09 | Fisker | but i clean installed afterwards on my new SSD |
| 19:58.17 | A-KO | I really want to build a new desktop |
| 19:58.20 | A-KO | I need a new one badly |
| 19:58.32 | A-KO | my aging SSD is nothing compared to the one in my work laptop, it's sad |
| 19:58.40 | A-KO | I thought 250MB/sec was fast on reads, the one in my work laptop pushes 480 |
| 19:59.04 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/yV8GW.png <-in case you're mad |
| 19:59.18 | A-KO | I've got an M4 in my work laptop |
| 19:59.28 | A-KO | Intel 80GB SSD in my desktop though, the old X25-M series |
| 19:59.49 | A-KO | new desktop is likely going to have an Intel 520 and a 1TB Raptor |
| 20:03.28 | A-KO | god |
| 20:03.31 | A-KO | I so need a new PC :( |
| 20:03.37 | A-KO | os: Microsoft Windows 8 Pro - (6.2.9200) 64-bit up: 6days 4hrs 34mins 36secs cpu: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6550 @ 2.33GHz at 2333MHz (3% Load) ram: 2213 / 8190MB (27.02%) [|||-------] gfx: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 1GB hdd: Free Space: 346.85GB/2.8TB System Temp: SpeedFanC CPU Temp: SpeedFanC GPU Temp: SpeedFan |
| 20:08.26 | Thunder_Child | yea, yea you do |
| 20:08.41 | A-KO | saving up money is more imperative atm :P |
| 20:08.47 | A-KO | new PC will happen towards the end of the year |
| 20:08.56 | Adys | "*fires up Microsoft Excel* - anyone up for some trading on EVE Online?" |
| 20:09.04 | A-KO | lol |
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| 20:58.54 | Adys | lol |
| 20:58.55 | Adys | Seriously, in 2012 MMS still not supported by Google Voice? (self.google) |
| 20:59.09 | Adys | it also doesnt support fax. |
| 20:59.37 | nevcairiel | neither MMS or Fax have really much to do with a concept of "Voice" |
| 20:59.49 | nevcairiel | besides, who needs MMS when you have email |
| 21:01.34 | durcyn | well, supporting sms means people assume you can support things that have nothing to do with sms |
| 21:04.57 | Amarande | besides, MMS is relatively glitchy in practise anyway |
| 21:05.31 | Amarande | there seem to be any of a number of circumstances that can cause a phone, even one that can send an SMS without difficulty, to fail to handle a MMS correctly :| |
| 21:05.57 | Amarande | in some cases, apparently even something as simple as being connected to WiFi on a smartphone can cause it to fail to send MMS properly, requiring you to disconnect and make sure you're solely on the cell network before sending |
| 21:06.01 | durcyn | you made the same false assumption there. sms and mms are not related in the way they operate, just the naming |
| 21:06.18 | Amarande | durcyn: aren't MMS usually things like "attach a picture to a text"? |
| 21:07.22 | Amarande | however, it's still true that MMS is notoriously glitchy, and abounds with download and upload failures, with things as simple as being connected to WiFi being enough to prevent successfully sending one on some phones |
| 21:08.33 | durcyn | sms is carried in beacon frames, mms is pure data |
| 21:09.01 | Amarande | Sometimes it feels like texting seems reliable compared to MMS (and it's said to be fact that as many as 1 in 20 of text messages never reach their recipient) |
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| 21:14.59 | Adys | is there an unix tool that lets you copy or move a directory *and* run checksums before/after? |
| 21:15.24 | Amarande | Adys: short answer? of course |
| 21:15.41 | MentalPower | Amarande: SMS is very low-level in its transport, it piggy backs on the control frames of the tower <-> cellphone connection |
| 21:15.45 | Amarande | long answer? not sure if there's an actual simple program to do it, or if it's something you'll need to use perl or the such for |
| 21:16.03 | MentalPower | whereas MMS is just data like any other (needs a lot more setup) |
| 21:16.09 | Amarande | however, as long as you can do it with perl, the answer to "is there a unix tool for ____" is "yes" |
| 21:16.17 | Amarande | and I'm 100% sure you can do something that simple with perl. :) |
| 21:16.21 | Amarande | Evening Cairenn :) |
| 21:16.27 | Cairenn | hi Amarande |
| 21:16.29 | MentalPower | Adys: rsync can do checksums |
| 21:16.54 | Adys | Amarande: yes, i *could* write it in a few lines of bash |
| 21:16.55 | Adys | im thinking if rsync can do that or something |
| 21:16.56 | foxlit | Adys: you moving your mpq porn collection again? :) |
| 21:16.57 | MentalPower | by default it doesnt since its slower than comparing filename, filesize and mtime, but it can |
| 21:17.07 | Adys | foxlit: the pre-cataclysm patches, yes |
| 21:17.19 | Adys | foxlit: they're on an external hd and its full |
| 21:18.25 | MentalPower | Adys: looks like rsync does it anyways on transfer |
| 21:18.27 | MentalPower | http://notemagnet.blogspot.com/2009/10/getting-started-with-rsync-for-paranoid.html |
| 21:18.51 | MentalPower | the -c flag is performed pre-transfer |
| 21:19.53 | Adys | thanks :) |
| 21:21.22 | Adys | -a, --archive archive mode; equals -rlptgoD (no -H,-A,-X) |
| 21:21.23 | Adys | lol |
| 21:21.28 | Adys | no kidding the manpage is a monster |
| 21:21.58 | Amarande | no hax :) |
| 21:36.28 | Adys | "Lived to EIGHTY-TWO. Walked on the FUCKING MOON. No sorrow needed, 'cause that's one of the best lives lived." |
| 21:36.38 | Adys | Yep |
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| 21:48.47 | Thunder_Child | is it just me or did they make the female necro in gw2 kinda look like abby sciuto |
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| 21:56.06 | Cairenn | It's a good look |
| 21:56.25 | Amarande | Abby is win and awesome, too :) |
| 21:57.23 | Dagmar | DAMNIT |
| 21:57.47 | Dagmar | I didn't know they pushed the Doctor Who premiere date back a week |
| 21:57.52 | Dagmar | Might as well download GW2 |
| 22:24.40 | Amarande | I'm busy gathering as many engineering recipes as I can, meanwhile |
| 22:24.40 | Amarande | which means farming for the most part, since engineering recipes on this server seem to cost about as much as the Samsung lawsuit damages :P |
| 22:24.40 | Amarande | I pretty much refuse to buy them from AH unless they're priced low enough that auctioneer rates it blue |
| 22:25.20 | Amarande | but hey, I get to get this character's Jenkins title while I'm at it, too :) |
| 22:25.47 | Alram | Dagmar, its still September 1st? |
| 22:33.50 | Dagmar | Alram: It was originally Aug 25th |
| 22:34.36 | Alram | For which channel? |
| 22:34.59 | Alram | First time BBC (UK) confirmed it, it was September 1st. |
| 22:41.43 | Dagmar | The first date I heard was Aug 25th |
| 22:42.32 | Alram | That was probably just a rumor. |
| 22:42.39 | Dagmar | Do you think I care? |
| 22:42.50 | Alram | So it wasn't ever pushed back. |
| 22:42.53 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 22:43.09 | Dagmar | Again, not airing tonight, so any other details can go eff themselves. |
| 22:44.55 | mckenziemc | ~hug Dagmar |
| 22:44.56 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on Dagmar and suddenly hugs Dagmar tightly |
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| 22:48.43 | durcyn | that doesn't sound consensual |
| 22:49.50 | mckenziemc | ~tickle durcyn |
| 22:49.50 | purl | ACTION jumps on durcyn, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
| 22:58.41 | Jamash | Life is too short to spending it learning Emacs. |
| 22:58.49 | Jamash | Life isn't short enough to spend it using Vi. |
| 22:59.07 | Jamash | damn it I botched the first one |
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| 23:35.52 | Adys | anyone good with adobe after effects? |
| 23:37.23 | ccox | hmm, I've used it, but I wouldn't call myself "good" |
| 23:40.24 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5i70kneLI4#t=8m32s |
| 23:43.10 | Ressy | http://www.montrealgazette.com/business/Videotron+dumps+customer+after+divorce/7141835/story.html |
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