| 00:00.01 | Neffi | Don't be judgmental about which you have no clue |
| 00:00.01 | xyphoid | i am so straightedge i had my endorphin glands extracted |
| 00:00.05 | Neffi | You play WoW to feel happy |
| 00:00.07 | Vladinator | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:00.15 | Neffi | You are not a monk. You have earthly desires. Don't be a hypocrite. |
| 00:00.24 | sintAcks | Vladinator, how old are you |
| 00:00.28 | Vladinator | 23 |
| 00:00.33 | Neffi | Torhal: <3 |
| 00:00.52 | sintAcks | Heh. I've only drank socially, but i've never been drunk. |
| 00:01.35 | Neffi | Not everyone drinks to get smashed and laugh at their friends. Some of us drink occassionally to get a mild buzz through the day. It's no different than drinking espresso. |
| 00:01.49 | Vladinator | I am all for moderation :D |
| 00:02.06 | Neffi | is drinking shitty beer right now. Also, can't believe people consider Budweiser the best beer in the world. |
| 00:03.46 | Vladinator | I was called a hypocrite :( |
| 00:03.50 | Stanzilla | what is w8 |
| 00:03.54 | Vladinator | windows 8 |
| 00:04.02 | Stanzilla | the other w8 |
| 00:04.04 | Torhal | w8 for a better OS. |
| 00:04.15 | Stanzilla | haha |
| 00:04.34 | xyphoid | you're for moderation but against cannabis? what about cannabis in moderation? |
| 00:04.38 | Stanzilla | after reading the log I thought for a second that w8 is a secret drug |
| 00:05.24 | Vladinator | I still have to meet someone doing cannabis in moderation, those I've spoken to did it quite frequently, I guess moderation is a POV too :P once a week for me sounds good. |
| 00:06.44 | Neffi | You're still young. I bet most of the people you've met were the high school stoner types |
| 00:06.56 | Neffi | What has society taught you about stereotyping people? |
| 00:07.04 | nebula169 | its perfectly ok! |
| 00:07.18 | Neffi | nebula169: Only if they laugh too! |
| 00:07.18 | bleeter | Neffi: budweiser isn't even beer. to steal a line from monty python, it's like having sex in a canoe. 'fucking close to water' |
| 00:07.20 | Vladinator | I actually only met drug users on the internet lol. |
| 00:07.38 | Neffi | Well you formed an opinion very irresponsibly son |
| 00:07.52 | Neffi | bleeter: So true. |
| 00:07.54 | bleeter | Vladinator: I met drug users at the GP clinic and next door at the pharmacy |
| 00:08.26 | bleeter | truth be told, I met drug users before I went to school when I saw my old man drink a cup of tea |
| 00:08.35 | Vladinator | Why do I get a vibe that I am wrong? :P |
| 00:08.37 | Neffi | bleeter: But wait, their doctor said it's okay, as long as they're using the HIGHLY addictive synthetic heroin that makes companies loads of money. |
| 00:09.00 | Neffi | is referring to painkillers, for those unaware that it's basically heroin. |
| 00:09.10 | bleeter | Neffi: that'd be the one I'm on at the moment because of surgery I had on friday because I took an arrow to the knee |
| 00:09.21 | Vladinator | It's just my oppinion that you can have a great life without purposefully using drugs to have a good time. ^^ |
| 00:09.37 | bleeter | iirc aspirin's derived from willow plant extract |
| 00:09.54 | Vladinator | And no, I have no problem with drugs for medicine use, just to have said it. |
| 00:10.03 | bleeter | Vladinator: that may well be true, but have you ever tried taking chocolate off a woman who is demanding it? |
| 00:10.14 | Neffi | Oh I totally agree you should be on it. But unfortunately legitimate cases represent the minority of users. It's even worse with antidepressants and anti-anxiety meds. So many people can be convinced they need it by doctors who don't know better than what drug to push next. |
| 00:10.50 | Neffi | I have nothing against proper drug use, whether that comes from prescription or a guy named Sam. Keyword: proper. |
| 00:10.53 | Vladinator | Actually I found it's easier to tell her she will get fat, that overrides the will to eat the chocolate :P |
| 00:10.54 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (~Kaydeethr@wowwiki/Kaydeethree) |
| 00:10.54 | bleeter | WHERE IS SIXEN WHEN I WANT TO YELL AT HIM!111!!! ;) |
| 00:11.11 | xyphoid | 'i'm against drugs' and 'i don't take drugs myself' are quite different things really, if you go around saying the former you'll get pushback, everyone will agree with you on the latter |
| 00:11.30 | xyphoid | is there anything more insufferable than the guy who goes around telling everyone he's not drinking |
| 00:11.42 | Vladinator | That's true |
| 00:11.52 | Neffi | Vlad: And you can have a great life without a car, TV, music, games, computer. Not to mention all the drugs you probably do use, like nicotine (chocolate), caffeine (in a lot more food than you think) and sugar (yes, it's a dopamine stimulant). |
| 00:11.55 | xyphoid | (and i don't generally drink myself) |
| 00:12.07 | Neffi | But you're not a monk. You have earthly desires. Refraining from some and not others don't make you better. |
| 00:13.29 | Vladinator | I think you think I think I am better, but tbh I don't really think that. |
| 00:13.58 | Torhal | Mah head. It asploded. |
| 00:14.06 | Neffi | Being against it implies you think there's some credibility to its abstinance that would make them better off. Simply not using it is fine, and I commend you for that |
| 00:15.15 | Vladinator | I think too many fall for peer pressure, I think it's fine to be different and not to be afraid of that. |
| 00:15.27 | Vladinator | Not always, I to am human. But I try :P |
| 00:15.57 | Neffi | Their weakness is falling for peer pressure, not using drugs. If they fall into abusing drugs because of pressure, then they do many other things they shouldn't for the same reason. Drugs mean nothing in the equation. |
| 00:16.42 | Vladinator | I had drinking in focus since it came up earlier, I don't got much to say about drug abuse except I dislike it I guess. :P |
| 00:17.29 | Neffi | Understandable. Just realize it irritates me when people try to tell me that something they really don't know all that much about is so terrible and demeaning (eg drugs - that comes up more than anything). |
| 00:18.00 | Neffi | Now, I will go out for a smoke. Which you actually *shouldn't* do. |
| 00:18.06 | Neffi | Fucking nicotine. |
| 00:18.07 | Vladinator | I don't smoke either :3 |
| 00:18.19 | Vladinator | The one thing that does irritate me is the prejudice from others that do drink to have fun in the weekends. |
| 00:18.43 | Vladinator | They kind of ignore me, "ah he doesn't drink he won't come over when we are drinking a six pack" it annoys me. |
| 00:18.52 | Vladinator | Deciding what I will say before even asking me -_- |
| 00:19.03 | Neffi | Those are the same type of people that probably go out to clubs for random sex. I'm in your boat on that one. |
| 00:19.26 | Vladinator | Not drinking alcohol != not wanting to accociate with those that do :P |
| 00:19.33 | Neffi | Aye |
| 00:19.41 | Neffi | Abstinance is its own thing entirely. |
| 00:19.51 | Neffi | Now, off I go. This cigarette is begging to be killed. |
| 00:19.54 | Vladinator | ! |
| 00:20.10 | Vladinator | I hope I never gotta smoke, I know too many that suddenly start out of nowhere :( |
| 00:20.19 | Vladinator | I hope I never keel over and give in. |
| 00:20.54 | Vladinator | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:21.23 | Vladinator | But I don't mind, kind of good for me, instead of headaches on sundays I learned to program, haza! |
| 00:23.12 | Vladinator | It's hard to express an oppinion on the internet because it's hard to condense experience and thaughts into a couple of centences, jeez. |
| 00:23.16 | Torhal | Personally, when I'm sober drunk folk annoy the piss out of me. |
| 00:26.12 | Kaylin | personally, when I am alive, people annoy the piss out of me =/ |
| 00:26.25 | Vladinator | You should then hang with the right group of people maybe :P |
| 00:27.01 | Esamynn | Kaylin: "people" or "stupidity" |
| 00:27.03 | Esamynn | ? |
| 00:27.53 | Kaylin | Meh, usually the former, though stupidity is a large subset of that group. I'm not really sure. |
| 00:28.07 | Vladinator | ~toc |
| 00:28.07 | purl | The current WoW interface number is 40300, or magical. MoP is 50001 |
| 00:28.12 | Vladinator | Where does purl get the toc? |
| 00:28.17 | Esamynn | magic |
| 00:28.21 | Vladinator | Automated or? |
| 00:28.35 | Esamynn | ~factinfo toc |
| 00:28.35 | purl | error: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required) |
| 00:28.35 | purl | toc -- created by mckenziemc <~Mark@adsl-67-121-230-179.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net> at Mon Feb 6 20:51:34 2012 (195 days); last modified at Tue Jul 3 04:57:56 2012 by pompy!~Mike@68.36.135.0; it has been requested 12 times, last by Vladinator, 28s ago. |
| 00:29.13 | Esamynn | ~literal toc |
| 00:29.13 | purl | "toc" is "<reply> The current WoW interface number is 40300, or magical. MoP is 50001" |
| 00:29.20 | Vladinator | You can extract the toc from the official website. |
| 00:29.34 | Vladinator | Wondering if purl uses that or a manual updated entry :3 |
| 00:31.35 | Vladinator | Can I write purl scripts or? |
| 00:35.20 | Ackis | purl, toc is The current WoW interface number is 40300, or magical. MoP is 50003 |
| 00:35.20 | purl | ...but toc is already something else... |
| 00:35.24 | Ackis | no purl, toc is The current WoW interface number is 40300, or magical. MoP is 50003 |
| 00:35.38 | Ackis | purl forget toc |
| 00:35.38 | purl | i forgot toc, Ackis |
| 00:35.44 | Vladinator | lol |
| 00:35.45 | Ackis | purl, toc is The current WoW interface number is 40300, or magical. MoP is 50003 |
| 00:35.45 | purl | okay, Ackis |
| 00:35.49 | Ackis | ~toc |
| 00:35.49 | purl | [toc] The current WoW interface number is 40300, or magical. MoP is 50003 |
| 00:36.04 | Vladinator | purl forget Ackis |
| 00:36.04 | purl | i forgot ackis, Vladinator |
| 00:36.07 | Vladinator | :3 |
| 00:36.16 | Vladinator | typo, lowe case I :D |
| 00:36.18 | Ackis | ... |
| 00:37.00 | Kaylin | wut |
| 00:37.19 | nebula169 | is it actually 50003? thought they didn't change it other than minor version changes |
| 00:37.34 | Gnarfoz | not this discussion again |
| 00:37.36 | Gnarfoz | ;P |
| 00:37.42 | Vladinator | I think it's 50001 still :P |
| 00:37.45 | nebula169 | missed the last one! |
| 00:38.00 | Gnarfoz | it wasn't pretty |
| 00:38.03 | bleeter | Gnarfoz: these are not the discussions you are looking for |
| 00:38.42 | durcyn | why the hell was there ever a trailing 1 on it anyway |
| 00:39.07 | Gnarfoz | 5.0.1 |
| 00:39.13 | Gnarfoz | -> 50 00 01 |
| 00:39.14 | Kaylin | prob if they change the API for a minor version patch |
| 00:39.26 | Gnarfoz | (except, with the right number of 0s) |
| 00:39.34 | Kaylin | 050001 |
| 00:39.38 | durcyn | for which there's zero precedent |
| 00:39.49 | Gnarfoz | except, history |
| 00:40.02 | Gnarfoz | (this exactly the discussion I meant) |
| 00:40.16 | Esamynn | purl, no, toc is <reply>purl, toc is The current WoW interface number is 4030. MoP is 50001 |
| 00:40.16 | purl | Esamynn: okay |
| 00:40.27 | Vladinator | ~toc |
| 00:40.27 | purl | purl, toc is The current WoW interface number is 4030. MoP is 50001 |
| 00:40.36 | Esamynn | purl, no, toc is <reply>The current WoW interface number is 4030. MoP is 50001 |
| 00:40.36 | purl | okay, Esamynn |
| 00:40.40 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 00:40.41 | Esamynn | better |
| 00:40.48 | Gnarfoz | purl, no, toc is <reply>The current WoW interface number is 40300. MoP is 50001 |
| 00:40.49 | purl | okay, Gnarfoz |
| 00:41.08 | Esamynn | O_o |
| 00:41.10 | bleeter | ~slap Esamynn |
| 00:41.11 | purl | ACTION slaps Esamynn, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 00:41.21 | Esamynn | ~fishslap bleeter |
| 00:41.21 | purl | ACTION slaps bleeter up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 00:41.22 | Gnarfoz | ~toc |
| 00:41.23 | purl | The current WoW interface number is 40300. MoP is 50001 |
| 00:41.29 | Gnarfoz | purl, toc is also magical |
| 00:41.29 | purl | Gnarfoz: okay |
| 00:41.33 | Gnarfoz | ~toc |
| 00:41.34 | purl | The current WoW interface number is 40300. MoP is 50001, or magical |
| 00:41.38 | Gnarfoz | yay |
| 00:41.47 | Vladinator | purl, Gnarfoz is spamming the chat. |
| 00:41.47 | purl | ...but gnarfoz is already something else... |
| 00:41.52 | Vladinator | :P |
| 00:41.53 | Vladinator | ~gnarfoz |
| 00:41.53 | purl | i guess gnarfoz is hax, or the gremmarz polise |
| 00:42.05 | bleeter | don't you mean 40300 or magical. MoP 5001 or magical? |
| 00:42.13 | bleeter | ~emulate bleeter |
| 00:42.13 | purl | ACTION rant RANT rant waaa MOAR COFFEE <sub>GOOD IDEA</sub>rant waa MOAR COFFEE rant rant MOAR MOAR <blink><h1>terribad idea</h1></blink> rant |
| 00:42.18 | Gnarfoz | bleeter: wat |
| 00:42.19 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 00:42.32 | Gnarfoz | maybe the output should be in ternary syntax |
| 00:43.24 | Vladinator | how can you see what a command contains? |
| 00:43.40 | bleeter | Gnarfoz: I've just had three really crappy days post-surgery due to a very very very badly placed comma in the post-surgery take home instruction sheet... don't get me started again. Not that I would 'coz I've just downed my pills for the day and I'd just ramble like this more |
| 00:43.46 | bleeter | ~emulate bleeter |
| 00:43.46 | purl | ACTION rant RANT rant waaa MOAR COFFEE <sub>GOOD IDEA</sub>rant waa MOAR COFFEE rant rant MOAR MOAR <blink><h1>terribad idea</h1></blink> rant |
| 00:43.52 | Gnarfoz | Vladinator: <Esamynn> ~literal toc |
| 00:44.09 | bleeter | ~emulate gnarfoz |
| 00:44.09 | purl | =[ |
| 00:44.21 | Gnarfoz | ~remulate |
| 00:44.22 | purl | aww, my bees... |
| 00:44.40 | mckenziemc | i didn't make toc o.o |
| 00:44.42 | Ackis | did you know /msg purl also works? |
| 00:44.46 | Esamynn | where does the "magical" come in? |
| 00:44.59 | mckenziemc | idk, somebody set it |
| 00:45.01 | Kaylin | privmsg |
| 00:45.13 | bleeter | Ackis: NOWAI! |
| 00:45.27 | mckenziemc | purl, unforget Ackis |
| 00:45.27 | purl | mckenziemc: Successfully recovered 'ackis'. Have fun now. |
| 00:45.28 | Torhal | Vladinator: Uh…why did you make purl forget Ackis? :/ |
| 00:45.29 | bleeter | this is not the privmsg to purl you are looking for |
| 00:45.30 | pompy | nevcairiel added the magical |
| 00:45.33 | Torhal | Oh, nice |
| 00:45.47 | Vladinator | ~ackis |
| 00:45.47 | purl | it has been said that ackis is A person who can code, but just doesn't know how to type. |
| 00:45.48 | Gnarfoz | mckenziemc: deleting and setting -> creating; "purl, no, xyz is abc" -> modifying... so if you did it like Ackis did a few minutes ago... |
| 00:46.00 | pompy | Torhal he prolly didnt know there was a command |
| 00:46.04 | *** join/#wowuidev Tomber_ (42dc7323@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.220.115.35) |
| 00:46.06 | bleeter | nevcairiel is magical |
| 00:46.12 | mckenziemc | yeah Gnarfoz i know |
| 00:46.20 | Torhal | pompy: He did it immediately after Ackis had purl forget toc |
| 00:46.22 | Torhal | :P |
| 00:47.16 | mckenziemc | forgets Torhal. |
| 00:47.31 | Gnarfoz | tries to forget Amarande |
| 00:47.35 | Torhal | Thank fuck |
| 00:47.47 | pompy | Gnarfoz: gonna be a mad long shot |
| 00:47.55 | Vladinator | purl, greedisgood? |
| 00:48.07 | Vladinator | ~about |
| 00:48.08 | purl | http://www.infobot.org/ - /msg infobot help for a list of commands - http://www.infobot.org/guide-0.43.x.html for a guide |
| 00:48.18 | Kraps | "I made a huge post about F2P but no one cares~" <makes a long post about F2P> |
| 00:48.20 | Gnarfoz | http://i.minus.com/inK3acINzCzas.jpg I don't even know why I have this open in a tab somewhere - but it helps |
| 00:48.45 | Vladinator | Torhal++ |
| 00:48.50 | Vladinator | purl, Torhal++ |
| 00:48.53 | Vladinator | :S |
| 00:48.55 | Vladinator | karma :( |
| 00:48.59 | Gnarfoz | it's not a karma bot |
| 00:49.06 | Torhal | ++Ackis |
| 00:49.07 | Neffi | So wait, can anyone assign a remembered value to purl? |
| 00:49.23 | Kraps | Gnarfoz, whos that, i cant look at it too close now |
| 00:49.23 | mckenziemc | ~Vladinator-- |
| 00:49.24 | Neffi | like, perl toast is burnt bread |
| 00:49.25 | *** join/#wowuidev Ressy (~Ressy@108.162.157.134) |
| 00:49.25 | *** join/#wowuidev Ressy (~Ressy@unaffiliated/ressy) |
| 00:49.39 | nebula169 | purl, toast is burnt bread |
| 00:49.40 | purl | ACTION crams is burnt bread in the toaster, and sets it to "Burn" and waits for is burnt bread to eject from the toaster |
| 00:49.40 | Vladinator | Why do you -- me? :( |
| 00:49.40 | Torhal | ~karma Ackis |
| 00:49.40 | purl | ackis has neutral karma |
| 00:49.53 | nebula169 | lol |
| 00:49.56 | Neffi | lol |
| 00:49.56 | Vladinator | ~karma Torhal++ |
| 00:49.56 | purl | torhal++ has neutral karma |
| 00:50.01 | Vladinator | ~karma Torhal + |
| 00:50.01 | purl | torhal + has neutral karma |
| 00:50.03 | Vladinator | >.< |
| 00:50.03 | Kaylin | purl (let x 5) |
| 00:50.09 | Ackis | ~torhal++ |
| 00:50.11 | mckenziemc | fail |
| 00:50.19 | Neffi | purl, what is 2+2? |
| 00:50.19 | purl | it has been said that 2+2 is 5 |
| 00:50.23 | Neffi | good bot |
| 00:50.25 | Kraps | haha |
| 00:50.30 | Neffi | pets purl. |
| 00:50.35 | Gnarfoz | ~pet |
| 00:50.40 | Vladinator | purl, am I awesome? |
| 00:50.42 | Gnarfoz | hmm |
| 00:50.46 | Gnarfoz | ~botsnack |
| 00:50.46 | purl | Gnarfoz: :) |
| 00:51.05 | Neffi | purl, Neffi is awesome |
| 00:51.05 | purl | Neffi: okay |
| 00:51.09 | Neffi | ~Neffi |
| 00:51.09 | purl | you are probably awesome |
| 00:51.20 | Vladinator | purl, tell purl purl, tell Vladinator he is cool! |
| 00:51.25 | Esamynn | yes Neffi |
| 00:51.26 | Gnarfoz | Vladinator: You'll have better luck talking to Scrapbucket in #mmo-champion on quakenet, if you're looking for a conversation partner... or just query amarande |
| 00:51.35 | Vladinator | lol |
| 00:51.42 | Neffi | Are there protected values? |
| 00:51.56 | Esamynn | not that I know of |
| 00:52.00 | Vladinator | purl, tell Gnarfoz he is funny |
| 00:52.08 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: Ama|work is too busy working to carry on a two-hour monologue. |
| 00:52.10 | Vladinator | purl don't want to tell you :( |
| 00:52.23 | Gnarfoz | torhal: too bad |
| 00:52.32 | Gnarfoz | *doesn't |
| 00:52.43 | Kraps | Gnarfoz, yoooo |
| 00:53.10 | Vladinator | purl, die |
| 00:53.10 | purl | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 00:53.14 | Torhal | Ackis: http://i.imgur.com/IpfdV.jpg |
| 00:53.33 | Ackis | bwaaa |
| 00:53.41 | Vladinator | purl |
| 00:53.51 | Gnarfoz | Kraps: what the what huh ahhh please don't hurt me |
| 00:54.08 | Kraps | i asked you who is that pic of! |
| 00:54.17 | Vladinator | ~whois Torhal |
| 00:54.17 | purl | well, torhal is some long-haired freak who re-writes all of Ackis' code. |
| 00:54.26 | Torhal | >.> |
| 00:54.29 | Gnarfoz | haha |
| 00:54.47 | Gnarfoz | Kraps: emma watson, the second, I think! |
| 00:54.59 | Kraps | the second? :p |
| 00:54.59 | Vladinator | ~whois Ackis |
| 00:54.59 | purl | well, ackis is A person who can code, but just doesn't know how to type. |
| 00:55.03 | Gnarfoz | at least that's what imdb calls her for some reason! |
| 00:55.14 | Vladinator | ~whois Vladinator |
| 00:55.16 | Gnarfoz | (I doubt brits do that silly thing) |
| 00:55.17 | Vladinator | :( |
| 00:55.18 | Kraps | i thought that was her |
| 00:55.22 | Vladinator | oh well, GOING TO BED |
| 00:55.26 | Vladinator | good night! :) |
| 00:55.29 | Vladinator | Torhal good luck! |
| 00:55.36 | Torhal | Heh, thankye |
| 00:55.39 | Vladinator | ~wave |
| 00:55.39 | purl | ACTION waves goodbye. |
| 00:55.58 | Gnarfoz | Kraps: you can just always drag the URL (or the image itself) into google :D |
| 00:56.07 | Kraps | right |
| 00:56.43 | Tomber_ | Is anyone on Lost Isles at the moment who can send an author guild invite to Tomber (auther of Raven)? |
| 00:58.30 | mckenziemc | i hear Torhal is giving away 50k gold and free guild invites to the last person to whisper him |
| 00:59.00 | mckenziemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:59.03 | Torhal | I hear mckenziemc is a complete asshole, when he isn't being utterly insignificant. |
| 00:59.17 | Torhal | :D |
| 00:59.24 | mckenziemc | :D |
| 00:59.33 | Kaylin | ~whois Kaylin |
| 00:59.36 | Kaylin | :( |
| 00:59.51 | Kraps | ~whois Kraps |
| 00:59.59 | mckenziemc | ~whoisn't Kaylin |
| 01:00.01 | Kaylin | is clearly some random. |
| 01:00.02 | Kraps | ~emulate Kraps |
| 01:00.13 | Torhal | ~emulate Ackis |
| 01:00.13 | purl | I AM QQing!!! |
| 01:00.39 | Kraps | ~emulate Torhal |
| 01:00.39 | purl | Ackis, it's ALL your fault! |
| 01:00.47 | Torhal | lol |
| 01:00.55 | Kraps | ah |
| 01:01.10 | Kraps | torhal blames Ackis |
| 01:01.15 | Kraps | Ackis QQs |
| 01:01.23 | mckenziemc | jn's going to get mad at us :( |
| 01:01.43 | Kraps | ~emulate jnwhiteh |
| 01:01.55 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:03.16 | Esamynn | Tomber_: faction? |
| 01:03.42 | Tomber_ | horde |
| 01:03.59 | Esamynn | nope, sorry |
| 01:04.07 | Esamynn | didn't get an inviate for my horde char |
| 01:04.28 | mckenziemc | (he's actually just anti-horde) |
| 01:05.03 | Kraps | (racist) |
| 01:05.04 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (~Kaydeethr@wowwiki/Kaydeethree) |
| 01:05.07 | Esamynn | ~lart mckenziemc |
| 01:05.07 | purl | slaps mckenziemc around with a large trout |
| 01:05.30 | mckenziemc | you want racist? *punts a gnome* |
| 01:06.31 | Tomber_ | i'll switch over to an alliance toon, on beta i am faction agnostic |
| 01:06.58 | mckenziemc | i captured one of washington's cities in civ 5, gave it to arabia, then on the same turn he complains i have military units in his territory : / |
| 01:07.24 | Tomber_ | okay, how about an alliance guild invite to Tomdra, please? |
| 01:07.31 | Kraps | moral: kill everyone |
| 01:08.16 | Cairenn | looking for beta guild invites? |
| 01:08.35 | Esamynn | points Cairenn to Tomber_ |
| 01:08.55 | Tomber_ | yes, please, cairenn, Tomber on Horde side, Tomdra on alliance side (currently sitting on Tomdra) |
| 01:09.12 | Cairenn | hmmm, okay, apparently it wants to 'optimize my files' |
| 01:09.21 | Cairenn | I'll let you know once I'm able to log in |
| 01:09.28 | Esamynn | Tomber_: you should accept the pending invite :P |
| 01:09.40 | Kraps | cool http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/5393667/ |
| 01:09.52 | Tomber_ | thank you! alliance side taken care of |
| 01:12.16 | Neffi | Kraps: The PvP implications are many and glorious |
| 01:12.36 | Kraps | they are? |
| 01:12.52 | Neffi | Ever notice it's nearly impossible to run into world PvP when leveling nowadays? |
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| 01:12.59 | Neffi | Makes it very boring |
| 01:13.15 | Neffi | Also, ganking potential |
| 01:13.19 | xyphoid | the net result i guess is if you want to go ganking, |
| 01:13.26 | xyphoid | much more target-risch |
| 01:13.54 | Neffi | Well I'm thinking the former. It'll make leveling more enjoyable. |
| 01:14.24 | xyphoid | now if only you could join other people's instances |
| 01:14.27 | Kraps | anyone play a disc priest? |
| 01:15.06 | Kraps | one of the disc class articles seemed kinda down on how disc is turning out |
| 01:15.16 | Kraps | on wowinsider |
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| 01:17.31 | Neffi | All the class articles are off. If you listen to Swifty, everyone's OP (even the abilities that are already not OP!). If you listen to forums, everyone's underpowered. If you listen to guides, they're usually just wrong. |
| 01:18.14 | mckenziemc | cookies, Kraps |
| 01:18.15 | Neffi | Too few people have beta access, they've had too little time, and constant tweaks make a lot of things said meaningless. |
| 01:19.38 | Kraps | speaking for myself, disc went from super fun in wrath to a huge chore in cata, so i'm wondering what mop has |
| 01:20.17 | Neffi | I believe the Wowhead talent calc stays up to date. Has spell and glyph lists to. Make your own assumptions. |
| 01:20.58 | Neffi | But they've said we're going to be seeing a lot of patches in quick succession in the next week (and posslibl more). The final fine-tuning is still changing numbers a lot. Theorycrafting is pointless. |
| 01:22.59 | xyphoid | was there a confirmation of what week the 5.0 patch would be? i've seen a lot of people saying the 28th authoritatively |
| 01:23.25 | Cairenn | Tomber_: I can log in now to give you an invite ... NA or EU region? |
| 01:23.28 | Neffi | Blue post said 28th, yes |
| 01:23.46 | Neffi | That's 5.0.4. MoP and more fine-tuning it brings is still Sept 25th. |
| 01:24.17 | Tomber_ | Tomber is on Lost Isles Horde currently, character is same name, thanks Cairenn |
| 01:24.32 | Cairenn | invite coming from "Kamdarya" |
| 01:25.06 | Neffi | xyphoid: http://www.wowhead.com/news=205491/patch-5-0-4-on-august-28th-pvp-season-11-ending |
| 01:25.12 | Neffi | Official source |
| 01:25.33 | Cairenn | Tomber_: welcome :) |
| 01:25.52 | Cairenn | (saw your thanks in game, but had already hit logout) |
| 01:25.52 | Esamynn | Neffi: you have an interesting definition of "official" |
| 01:26.12 | xyphoid | well, that has links to http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6308782635 |
| 01:26.16 | Neffi | Esamynn: Did you read it? It's a Blizzard quote. |
| 01:26.16 | xyphoid | which works for me! thanks |
| 01:26.29 | Esamynn | Neffi: right, it's a quote, not the OFFICIAL source |
| 01:26.41 | Neffi | Technicalities |
| 01:26.54 | Esamynn | on which programmers live and die |
| 01:26.57 | mckenziemc | hey, at least he's not calling his addon Rawr (Official) |
| 01:28.30 | Kraps | this is a neat shadow glyph http://mop.wowhead.com/item=45757 |
| 01:28.34 | Neffi | That's a good idea. I should name it nf* (Official) |
| 01:29.11 | Neffi | Wow I thought they wanted to do away with mandatory glyphs. That should be baseline. |
| 01:30.02 | nebula169 | why would a sp be healing mans? the life grip is neat, but hardly mandatory |
| 01:32.02 | nebula169 | would be wonderful for leveling, though |
| 01:32.37 | Kraps | i thought there were going to be 3 levels of glyphs in cata |
| 01:32.42 | Kraps | er MoP |
| 01:32.59 | xyphoid | nope, they're cutting it down to 2 |
| 01:33.12 | Amarande | Neffi: yeah, that's a great glyph for soloing, but it's not of much import for dungeons or raids |
| 01:33.17 | xyphoid | most of the prime glyphs are converting to new lower ones |
| 01:33.22 | nebula169 | they basically rolled prime glyphs into the class and cut them |
| 01:33.29 | Neffi | PvP |
| 01:33.47 | Amarande | How many glyphs are left that are still learned via the Book of Glyph Mastery from NR, btw? |
| 01:33.52 | Amarande | I seem to remember most of those are Prime |
| 01:34.06 | xyphoid | lots, check wowhead |
| 01:34.25 | mckenziemc | xyphoid: he just wants to type |
| 01:34.38 | Amarande | hush, mckenziemc |
| 01:34.40 | Jammer | Amarande: doubt they removed any glyphs tho, probably just changed them to minor glyphs or something |
| 01:34.45 | xyphoid | but i did some comparing and it looks like no glyphs are actually disappearing like the Cata switch - almost all the prime IDs are being converted |
| 01:34.54 | xyphoid | into a mix of new minor and majors |
| 01:35.31 | Amarande | oh, speaking of things disappearing: what's put where if you have your MH/OH and ranged slots all full when the patch hits? |
| 01:35.34 | Kraps | the minors are just cosmetic now |
| 01:35.42 | Amarande | (and if your inventory is full too, does anything in fact disappear for good?) |
| 01:35.51 | xyphoid | yep, if your inventory is full, your whole inventory gets deleted |
| 01:35.53 | xyphoid | trufacts |
| 01:35.55 | nebula169 | Amarande: mail |
| 01:36.16 | Amarande | I'm also guessing that relics turn into greys |
| 01:36.31 | Neffi | I'm guessing it'll be mailed to you. |
| 01:36.32 | xyphoid | there are about 10 new priest glyphs showing up too |
| 01:36.41 | mckenziemc | thought i also heard of something where they go into "extra" slots in your bags temporarily till you have room |
| 01:36.46 | mckenziemc | i forgot what that was about though |
| 01:36.55 | Amarande | mckenziemc: keys, I think |
| 01:36.56 | mckenziemc | the key conversion maybe? |
| 01:37.01 | nebula169 | yea, helm glyphs and non-agi ranged slot stuff gets turned into junk |
| 01:37.10 | xyphoid | don't forget to convert all your cataclysm ink too |
| 01:37.27 | Amarande | xyphoid: cata ink is still useful, people will always want to gamble on mysterious fortune cards |
| 01:37.48 | Jammer | why do they change the inks patch too early? |
| 01:38.00 | xyphoid | but you can make new cataclysm ink, you can't convert cataclysm ink after the patch |
| 01:38.15 | Amarande | Jammer: it's the same kind of thing like justice points costs ... when the systems patch comes in everything is set up for the new level cap |
| 01:38.20 | xyphoid | i assume it's just slightly too hard |
| 01:38.29 | Amarande | which is why heirlooms are always obscenely expensive whenever a new xpac system patch hits |
| 01:38.40 | xyphoid | there'll probably be a few ways to sneak MoP mats in the patch -> xpack period |
| 01:38.43 | Esamynn | mail is the standard recovery system for all items that failed to goto the inventory, whatever the reason |
| 01:38.57 | Amarande | xyphoid: probably. you were able to collect cata meat during the interval, that I remember |
| 01:39.10 | Amarande | since you could do the dailies and get the crate of meat before cata went live |
| 01:39.24 | xyphoid | and farming netherweave cloth outside kara back in the day |
| 01:39.47 | Amarande | also, PvP more or less shuts down altogether at these kinds of patches |
| 01:40.00 | Amarande | not only do all the rated things shut down due to season end, but you can't even usually raid cities |
| 01:40.15 | Amarande | since they level up the guards at systems patch, and then the guards will two-shot even top-tier heroic raiding tanks |
| 01:40.32 | Amarande | and, of course, when do you ever fight a city guard alone :P |
| 01:40.35 | Amarande | except maybe in Stormwind |
| 01:41.01 | Amarande | since there seem to be barely any, as anyone who's trying to find something in SW finds out :P |
| 01:42.15 | Amarande | oh, yeah, for the same reason don't try getting bloodsail admiral during the patch interval either :) |
| 01:43.53 | Neffi | Guards are being nerfed. So they might be hitting 90 in the patch, but hitting cities will be more viable AT 90. |
| 01:43.59 | Neffi | (On PvP realms only) |
| 01:46.03 | Amarande | Wait, guards are going to be tougher on PvE realms than on PvP? |
| 01:46.11 | Amarande | That sounds strange. |
| 01:46.16 | Torhal | Walls of text. Everywhere. |
| 01:46.54 | Neffi | As tough as they are now (adjusted for level 90), while being easier on PvP realms, yes. They want to encourage PvP while keeping PvE realms in the carebear mindset. |
| 01:47.52 | mckenziemc | "carebear mindset" >.> |
| 01:49.36 | Amarande | heh, "carebear mindset" indeed |
| 01:49.51 | Amarande | if you missed RFC/Stocks on a character while leveling, it means it may actually be harder to get it on a PvE realm, not easier |
| 01:50.20 | Amarande | (assuming you're smart and do it at oh dark thirty server time so there is minimal actual risk of being an HK) |
| 01:51.01 | mckenziemc | facepalms. |
| 01:51.20 | Amarande | and actually make it easiest to do things like that on dead pvp realms, go figure |
| 01:51.29 | Amarande | since they'll have the easier guards *and* barely any humans around to worry about |
| 01:53.06 | mckenziemc | inb4 Amarande complains about It's Over 9000 being harder on PvE servers, and disparity between its ease between horde and alliance based on capital city layouts |
| 01:55.35 | Kraps | its basically a slap in the face mckenziemc |
| 01:55.45 | mckenziemc | :D |
| 01:57.37 | Amarande | "inb4" ... mckenziemc, you are hereby sentenced to spend ninety-nine years chatting through nothing but Twitter :P |
| 01:58.24 | xyphoid | you'd never survive on twitter amarande |
| 01:58.26 | xyphoid | 140 character limit |
| 01:58.32 | mckenziemc | too bad mine was 161 characters |
| 02:00.21 | Kraps | hax |
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| 02:06.28 | Amarande | I'm actually not even sure what It's Over 9000 is, I haven't been looking much at MoP cheeves |
| 02:08.18 | Amarande | but yeah, I was wondering if the guard difference is going to be such that a character trying to run into an enemy capital city for non-PvP purposes (e.g., fishing achievements or missed RFC/Stocks) is going to find it noticeably tougher (not counting player character presence, assume the player's smart enough to do it in the late night and/or the PvP server player is on one of the dead ones) |
| 02:08.18 | Amarande | to not die on a PvE server compared to a PvP server |
| 02:11.04 | Kraps | dude this is such a minuscule issue |
| 02:14.52 | Jammer | Amarande: they're making guards weaker on pvp servers... not stronger on pve :p |
| 02:14.58 | mckenziemc | I so called that |
| 02:15.40 | Jammer | for fishing you can easily get in and out without pulling a single guard |
| 02:22.17 | Neffi | It's not going to be any tougher than it is now. So it's not really an issue. |
| 02:22.28 | Neffi | It's a buff to people doing city raids, not a nerf to people looking to dungeon. |
| 02:23.22 | xyphoid | also complaining about 'inb4' and then using the term 'cheeves'? welp |
| 02:26.02 | A-KO | what's this guard change? |
| 02:26.05 | A-KO | info anywhere? |
| 02:26.58 | mckenziemc | i know there's at least one blue post about it but idk where D: |
| 02:29.58 | Amarande | xyphoid: "cheeve" has been a fairly well accepted short for "achievement" |
| 02:30.02 | Amarande | "inb4" is just txt tlk |
| 02:31.46 | xyphoid | 'cheeve' is awful and you should feel bad for using it |
| 02:32.35 | mckenziemc | inb4 is a forum meme, but i guess you wouldn't know that, using IRC instead of forums |
| 02:34.00 | Jammer | A-KO: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/blog/5054687/ |
| 02:34.50 | Kraps | only scrubs pvp |
| 02:35.01 | mckenziemc | :O |
| 02:35.15 | Kraps | thats right :glare: |
| 02:35.15 | Sintacks | that's why i PvE |
| 02:36.00 | Torhal | Heh - "cheeve" sounds like someone with a speech impediment saying "chive". That, or cheesy chives. |
| 02:36.51 | Torhal | Also, "inb4" is accepted by people who can't type. Doesn't make it right, either. |
| 02:36.52 | Dagmar | IT's a flavor, man. |
| 02:36.55 | Torhal | peers at pompy. |
| 02:37.07 | xyphoid | where are the cheeevos? where's the mountain deeew? |
| 02:37.11 | Dagmar | Peppermint, spearmint, cheevemint |
| 02:37.17 | Sintacks | inb4 Torhal is bad |
| 02:37.18 | Sintacks | Torhal is bad |
| 02:37.21 | Sintacks | inafter failed inb4 |
| 02:37.30 | mckenziemc | hah |
| 02:37.32 | Sintacks | inb4 op can't inb4 |
| 02:37.36 | Torhal | stuffs Sintacks into a cheeve pie. |
| 02:37.44 | Sintacks | the fuck is a cheeve pie |
| 02:37.48 | Torhal | Exactly. |
| 02:37.58 | mckenziemc | is it better than cheevecake? |
| 02:38.07 | Torhal | shudders. |
| 02:38.50 | Sintacks | oh god. nsfw http://i.imgur.com/CyjCY.gif |
| 02:38.51 | mckenziemc | :D |
| 02:38.57 | Torhal | lol |
| 02:39.01 | Kraps | this is a dumb conversation, let interject with some wisdom http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6352745494#1 |
| 02:40.57 | Kraps | Sintacks, what am i looking at, the boobs are distracting |
| 02:42.39 | Sintacks | haha |
| 02:42.42 | Sintacks | she's holding a keyblade |
| 02:43.28 | Kraps | i heard of those |
| 02:48.26 | Arrowmaster | why is she holding a keyblade |
| 02:49.33 | Kraps | to titillate nerds? |
| 02:49.50 | Sintacks | ^ |
| 02:50.41 | Sintacks | damnit. i got that one question wrong. i selected MMOUI and not MMOI |
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| 02:51.05 | mckenziemc | heylin |
| 02:51.11 | Sintacks | lawl. i'd actually be annoyed if i won the trivia thing, and not the headset |
| 02:51.17 | Sintacks | hai Kaylin |
| 02:53.13 | Neffi | Sintacks: Link to it? |
| 02:54.19 | Sintacks | wat |
| 02:54.37 | Neffi | Oh, the WoWI one. I found it. |
| 02:55.04 | Sintacks | lol |
| 02:55.09 | Neffi | Oh, it's a Plantronics. I'm not even tkaing my chances, I'll buy a new headset anyway. lol |
| 02:56.33 | Sintacks | wat |
| 02:58.52 | Neffi | oh shit new BB. |
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| 03:01.07 | Kraps | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8283-Reportedbyweasel.html |
| 03:02.42 | Kaylin | hi guys :) sorry was distracted by other things |
| 03:17.46 | mckenziemc | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6352745494?page=2#30 |
| 03:17.54 | Sintacks | oh hai sexy |
| 03:17.56 | Sintacks | i mean kay |
| 03:18.00 | Sintacks | oh wait |
| 03:18.01 | Sintacks | she left |
| 03:18.03 | Sintacks | WHY SHE LEAVE |
| 03:18.07 | Sintacks | I HADN'T FREAKED HER OUT YET |
| 03:18.14 | Sintacks | i fail at irc |
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| 03:23.05 | Neffi | mck: The post right under that one is more what I was thinking |
| 03:35.25 | Kraps | haha i remembered my wowi login! |
| 03:41.09 | arton | What's main city hub in Panda-land? |
| 03:46.27 | Sintacks | so, i turned my D3 CE USB Soulstone into a memtest usb thingy |
| 03:46.43 | Sintacks | cuz i needed a flash drive, and mine's got shit ont it |
| 03:47.05 | Torhal | COmputing in the restroom again? |
| 03:47.38 | Sintacks | sighs and laughs at the same time |
| 03:50.07 | arton | Nobody knows? |
| 03:50.18 | arton | Is SW main city again? :( |
| 03:50.26 | arton | (alli) |
| 03:52.09 | Kraps | http://wow.joystiq.com/2011/10/27/pandaria-capital-cities/ |
| 03:53.34 | Kraps | but that might be old |
| 03:57.04 | arton | "Valor, conquest, profession and faction vendors will be scattered around the world to encourage travel. " |
| 03:57.08 | arton | FFFFUUUU |
| 03:59.56 | V3DT | logs into WoW |
| 04:01.24 | Corrodias | heheh |
| 04:07.44 | Adys | A fix for issues where downloading large files using the Blizzard Downloader and other multi threaded download applications would cause the Super Hub to reboot. |
| 04:07.46 | Adys | THANK FUCK |
| 04:08.02 | Adys | good god this was the worst bug ever |
| 04:08.17 | Adys | how the hell do you feel when you have an app that can make your router reboot |
| 04:18.39 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/232993-hot-paladins-18/ |
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| 04:37.08 | batbot | Shirik fears to duel a bot, what a coward. |
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| 04:46.16 | Thunder_Child | batrick: I hate you |
| 04:46.54 | mckenziemc | pits batbot and Thunder_Child against each other. |
| 04:49.20 | Thunder_Child | theres a command for that mckenziemc |
| 04:49.32 | Thunder_Child | ~vs Thunder_Child batbot |
| 04:49.32 | purl | in a one on one showdown, the companion cube wins. |
| 04:50.03 | mckenziemc | or i could, y'know, just do it myself |
| 04:50.25 | Thunder_Child | dont trust you mckenziemc |
| 04:51.56 | mckenziemc | drops Thunder_Child into an incinerator. |
| 04:52.24 | Ackis | do you think my 32 gig USB thing survived a washing and a drying? |
| 04:52.44 | Thunder_Child | drops mckenziemc into a cryo chamber |
| 04:52.48 | Thunder_Child | yes Ackis |
| 04:53.01 | Thunder_Child | cant tell you if it will still work |
| 04:53.19 | Ackis | I think it does |
| 04:53.38 | Torhal | Ackis: I'd give a day or so due to moisture on the innards. |
| 04:54.09 | Ackis | Torhal: it's been through the dryer |
| 04:54.16 | Torhal | Mmmhmm |
| 04:54.21 | Thunder_Child | i remember something about packing it in salt to draw out the mosture, but i can not remember what it was talking about |
| 04:54.28 | Torhal | Exactly |
| 04:54.35 | Torhal | It likely still has water inside. |
| 04:54.54 | Thunder_Child | unless the static electicty of the dryer fried it |
| 04:54.54 | Torhal | You do NOT wanna plug that bad boy in |
| 04:55.00 | Torhal | Ick |
| 04:55.01 | Ackis | too late |
| 04:55.05 | Torhal | :P |
| 04:55.11 | V3DT | I have had one go through the washer & dryer, it still worked |
| 04:56.04 | Ackis | Cairenn: if I have an account on wowi/wowhead will I have an account on swtorui et al.? |
| 04:56.25 | ccox | packing in salt, or uncooked rice will help dry it out (unless you happen to have some DRT-RITE dessicant handy) |
| 04:56.38 | ccox | s/DRT/DRY/ |
| 04:56.42 | Cairenn | Ackis: all of the newer ones, yes |
| 04:56.50 | Torhal | It's also helpful to not plug the fucking thing in, which Ackis did |
| 04:57.55 | Ackis | Torhal: imma plug it up yer ass |
| 04:58.20 | mckenziemc | salt doesn't sound like a good idea o.o |
| 04:58.21 | Cairenn | Ackis: just log in using your email addy & password from wowi/wowhead |
| 04:58.48 | Ackis | Cairenn: swtorui didn't recognize me :'( |
| 04:58.58 | Ackis | it's because I'm canadian |
| 04:59.16 | Torhal | Ackis: I will piss in your shoes! |
| 04:59.32 | arton | harsh |
| 04:59.37 | Mr_Rabies | salt is a bad idea Ackis |
| 04:59.39 | V3DT | Ackis, also was smashed and had ice tea dumped on it :p and it still worked |
| 04:59.41 | Cairenn | should have |
| 04:59.44 | Mr_Rabies | it'll corrode those connectors fast |
| 04:59.54 | Torhal | Mr_Rabies: This is true. Rice it is. |
| 04:59.56 | Mr_Rabies | rice should do the trick |
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| 05:00.12 | Ackis | Cairenn: je ne sais pas :) I re-registered, I just like these quizzes you guys did :D |
| 05:00.27 | Cairenn | heh |
| 05:00.39 | Cairenn | glad at least one person had fun with them |
| 05:00.54 | minty | Hey guys, does anyone know anything about ConsoleExec mousespeed? |
| 05:00.57 | minty | im having so much trouble :( |
| 05:00.58 | Ackis | you're receiving negative feedback? lame |
| 05:01.11 | Cairenn | no, not receiving negative feedback |
| 05:01.18 | Cairenn | not receiving -any- feedback :p |
| 05:01.22 | mckenziemc | Ackis sucks |
| 05:01.23 | Torhal | thinks Ackis should have participated in the Vancouver Zombie Walk. |
| 05:01.34 | Kaelten | what a long few days |
| 05:01.38 | Kaelten | how goes guys |
| 05:01.41 | Torhal | Kaelten: Foof. |
| 05:01.54 | Ackis | Cairenn: well I like it, and my opinion counts for something! |
| 05:01.58 | Torhal | Kaelten: They took my stuff down. |
| 05:01.59 | Cairenn | yes, it does :) |
| 05:02.26 | Ackis | I think I took my sleeping drugs tooooooo early |
| 05:02.37 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 05:02.43 | Torhal | Ackis: Awesome. Get crackin' on Collectinator. |
| 05:02.57 | Ackis | dude I feel drunk |
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| 05:03.01 | Ackis | and tired |
| 05:03.05 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 05:03.13 | Torhal | Ackis: I code like that all the time. |
| 05:03.27 | mckenziemc | s/code/am/ |
| 05:03.44 | Torhal | s/code/ritualistically slaughter mckenziemc/ |
| 05:03.58 | mckenziemc | :( |
| 05:04.03 | Thunder_Child | then go to sleep Ackis |
| 05:04.04 | Ackis | Torhal: no wonder your shit don't make sense to me |
| 05:04.13 | Torhal | Ackis: Hah |
| 05:04.34 | Torhal | Touché. |
| 05:05.31 | mckenziemc | ~touch Torhal |
| 05:05.31 | purl | This is Fendor's pleasure only |
| 05:05.58 | Torhal | Weirdo. |
| 05:06.49 | Ackis | fuck yah I got all the questions on EQ2interface right I'm da man |
| 05:07.45 | mckenziemc | Torhal: i like naming my files after you |
| 05:08.09 | Cairenn | Ackis: lol, given that they're (almost) all the same across all the sites ... |
| 05:08.38 | Ackis | Cairenn: in the state that I'm in right now, I've gotten them right on one site and wrong on another site |
| 05:08.46 | Cairenn | *hug* |
| 05:09.22 | Torhal | Sonofabitch. Tony Scott committed suicide. |
| 05:09.41 | Torhal | Ridley Scott's brother, and a fine director in his own right. |
| 05:10.38 | Kaelten | Torhal: nice, they haven't taken mine down yet. and they seem to be very confident that being canadian makes them immune to DMCAs and that they're effectively immune to any sever consequences after gross and intentional ip violations |
| 05:10.50 | Kaelten | I hate the DMCA laws, but I also hate that kinda caviler attitude |
| 05:11.05 | Cairenn | oh, but Kaelten, we don't understand copyright |
| 05:11.12 | Kaelten | so I've been informed |
| 05:11.25 | Torhal | They were making it sounds like most AddOns have "murky" copyright, as if that gives them carte blanche. |
| 05:11.41 | Kaelten | yup, it's pretty crazy |
| 05:11.49 | Ackis | Kaelten: I found some herpes on the wifes computer |
| 05:11.56 | Ackis | Torhal: why did you have to bring up murky? :( |
| 05:12.06 | Torhal | Ackis: Because racecar. |
| 05:12.08 | Kaelten | Ackis: cool, get her some penicillin |
| 05:12.11 | Cairenn | "It's not as cut and dried as "copyright" issue as most think, but at this point explaining the underlying issues to the authors in jeopardy would only exacerbate the situation. There is a lot of legal chatter going on in your IRC and on the forums that is simply misplaced. I truly hope that the false sense of security doesn't come to haunt them." |
| 05:12.14 | Kaelten | Torhal: I hate that. |
| 05:12.26 | Torhal | Kaelten: So do I. I hear it every fucking day |
| 05:12.34 | Kaelten | then don't repeat it |
| 05:12.38 | Torhal | Hah |
| 05:12.46 | Cairenn | Which also, btw, suggests that there is someone from TTH (or whatever variation) in here |
| 05:12.49 | Kaelten | less repeating will result in sooner death, and we don't need it spreading to here of all places |
| 05:12.57 | Torhal | That is true. |
| 05:13.01 | Kaelten | Cairenn: most likely. |
| 05:13.17 | Ackis | not goona lie imma tth shill |
| 05:13.38 | Torhal | Ackis: You're a giant fucking keylogger. Give us something new. |
| 05:13.57 | Ackis | be nice :( |
| 05:14.02 | Torhal | Ackis: Hax? |
| 05:14.04 | Torhal | :D |
| 05:14.39 | Trela | I assume people have read this already. http://www.worldofaddons.com/directors-letter-aug-2012 |
| 05:15.01 | Ackis | fml |
| 05:15.05 | Torhal | Trela: Yes. For the children. |
| 05:15.06 | Ackis | I'm 31 and not 30 |
| 05:15.26 | Torhal | Ackis: S'ok, I had a couple of years where I didn't remember my age because I just stopped caring. |
| 05:15.29 | Trela | Torhal: Meaning, "Basically we fucked up, lets do something good while still not addressing the concerns." |
| 05:15.37 | ccox | yeah, that's old, slimey news |
| 05:15.39 | Torhal | Trela: Oh, yes - more smoke and mirors. |
| 05:15.40 | Ackis | my wife just asked me how I don't remember my own age |
| 05:15.44 | Dagmar | Torhal: Go with that. |
| 05:15.52 | Torhal | Dagmar: Heh |
| 05:15.57 | Dagmar | It's not worth worrying about |
| 05:16.24 | Trela | Ackis: Basically after 25 no one cares about age anymore until they hit about 40. |
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| 05:16.43 | Ackis | Trela: I think Torhal is 40 |
| 05:16.49 | Kaylin | has been having issues connecting |
| 05:16.53 | Torhal | Damn close. |
| 05:16.58 | Trela | Ackis: Hard to tell if he shaves. |
| 05:16.59 | Cairenn | *Has* anyone contacted Gabe & Tycho? |
| 05:17.07 | Torhal | Not that I'm aware, Cairenn. |
| 05:17.36 | Cairenn | Someone should |
| 05:17.48 | Ackis | nominates Cairenn |
| 05:17.51 | mruser | they're probably a little busy... |
| 05:18.03 | Cairenn | mruser: indeed, but they'll be home soon |
| 05:18.09 | Kaylin | noms a sandwich. |
| 05:18.27 | Torhal | You know, in the e-mails I almost felt that I was speking to Cleverbot. |
| 05:18.35 | Torhal | speaking* |
| 05:19.04 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 05:19.11 | Trela | So, I thought, why do we not write an article about the situation and submit it to Slashdot or Reddit? |
| 05:19.19 | pompy | l2 type Torhal |
| 05:19.33 | Torhal | Learn to use fully-formed words, pompy. |
| 05:19.38 | Ackis | Trela: http://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/y8usy/new_addon_hosting_site_steals_authors_work/ |
| 05:19.45 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 05:19.51 | Dagmar | There's a big "stall" in the story, since there's that pesky 10-day DMCA thing |
| 05:19.54 | Trela | Ackis: I really suck at this internet points thing. |
| 05:19.59 | Dagmar | Reddit will eat it up once that's passed |
| 05:20.48 | mckenziemc | deforms Torhal permanently. |
| 05:21.01 | Ackis | Trela: r/wow didn't seem to give a damn |
| 05:21.12 | Ackis | I got more upvotes for achievement unlocked on my wedding card |
| 05:21.13 | Torhal | mckenziemc: Such a sadist. |
| 05:21.13 | Trela | Ackis: They wouldn't. |
| 05:22.05 | arton | 1.47GB of 21GB |
| 05:22.10 | arton | Installing WoW. |
| 05:22.20 | arton | That's what the background downloader says anyways. |
| 05:22.33 | arton | 320 hours remaining |
| 05:22.35 | arton | :/ |
| 05:22.54 | Torhal | arton: So you have a cans-and-shoestring ISP? |
| 05:23.01 | arton | :) |
| 05:23.05 | arton | I think so. |
| 05:23.09 | Torhal | Urk. |
| 05:24.24 | AcidWeb | Morning. |
| 05:24.55 | Ackis | haha they called Seerah a Mr. |
| 05:25.20 | mckenziemc | old Ackis |
| 05:25.27 | Ackis | :( |
| 05:28.08 | arton | little old woman lived in a shoe |
| 05:28.16 | arton | had so many kiddos didn't know what to do |
| 05:28.35 | arton | waves around like he just doesn't care. |
| 05:29.01 | Cairenn | If someone from TTH -is- in here, I don't know why they haven't just identified themselves as such. The channel is site-agnostic, and all you guys want is an opportunity to talk to them |
| 05:29.25 | Cairenn | well, not -all- you want, but yeah |
| 05:30.07 | Kaelten | Dagmar: that stall is potentially invalid. the 10-day bit is in relation to verifying and counterclaiming. TTH uploaded the work and know it wasn't work built by TTH, so I think the 10-day counterclaim period is invalid. |
| 05:30.18 | AcidWeb | "Blue spy is in the base!' |
| 05:33.24 | Kaelten | the whole thing is complicated by the fact that I'm fairly sure they use a canadian host, which doesn't work with DMCA takedowns |
| 05:33.34 | Arrowmaster | correct |
| 05:33.53 | Kaelten | I'm not sure if the C-11 bill passed or not, but the whole thing is even further complicated by them being the offenders, not their users |
| 05:34.10 | End_ | if they uploaded it, they aren't protected by complying with DMCA takedowns anyway |
| 05:34.27 | Fisker | hey "Kaelten" |
| 05:34.29 | Dagmar | So, probably big points for poitning how how badly they're ignoring copyright laws then |
| 05:34.55 | Kaelten | yeah they've lost rights to pretty much any kind of safe-harbor provisions from my understanding |
| 05:34.59 | End_ | the DMCA is pretty specifically designed to protect a site from the actions of its users |
| 05:35.12 | End_ | that part anyway of course :P |
| 05:35.36 | Arrowmaster | if anybody was to sue them they are royally fucked |
| 05:36.17 | Cairenn | The other thing is, even if what they've done isn't illegal, it still is morally and ethically wrong |
| 05:36.25 | Ackis | Kaelten, Cairenn check thine e-mails |
| 05:36.31 | Kaelten | seen |
| 05:36.36 | Cairenn | saw |
| 05:36.37 | End_ | a good lawyer would let them drag it on for a long while, but if it came to that, it would show just how scummy they are |
| 05:36.49 | Kaelten | yeah, it'd be an interesting fight |
| 05:36.54 | Ackis | sewn |
| 05:36.56 | Kaelten | the one who could pressure them is convoke |
| 05:37.02 | Cairenn | Ackis: you forgot to include |
| 05:37.03 | Kaelten | and maybe tucows |
| 05:37.05 | Fisker | not hey then |
| 05:37.06 | Fisker | :( |
| 05:37.16 | Cairenn | that they still aren't taking down the addons |
| 05:37.17 | Kaelten | Fisker: hey :P |
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| 05:38.12 | Fisker | i'm so tired Kaelten |
| 05:38.19 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:38.39 | Fisker | no bluspacecow :( |
| 05:39.01 | Kaelten | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Act_of_Canada#Bill_C-11 |
| 05:39.07 | Kaelten | The bill received Royal Assent on June 29, 2012 with all amendments rejected. |
| 05:39.09 | Ackis | g'night folks and folkers |
| 05:39.10 | Kaelten | what does that mean? |
| 05:39.17 | bluspacecow | *plugs Fisker into a high voltage transformer and strikes it with lighting* |
| 05:39.26 | Fisker | no :( |
| 05:40.24 | bluspacecow | you will take your lightining and you will like it sir! |
| 05:41.01 | Kaylin | affixes a pair of tesla coils to bluspacecow's horns. |
| 05:41.08 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 05:41.10 | Kaelten | http://openparliament.ca/bills/41-1/C-11/ |
| 05:41.14 | Kaelten | found it! |
| 05:41.18 | Kaelten | that means it's legal |
| 05:41.18 | bluspacecow | so anyone know if Carbonite's being updated for MoP ? |
| 05:41.34 | pompy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Assent |
| 05:41.42 | pompy | bluspacecow: who cares! |
| 05:42.37 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 05:42.55 | bluspacecow | y u haet? |
| 05:43.00 | pompy | you use that? |
| 05:43.10 | bluspacecow | no a friend does. |
| 05:43.37 | bluspacecow | i can't confirm if it's being updated for MoP - i see a post in the carbonite forums about 5.0 and beyond |
| 05:43.45 | bluspacecow | but its in there premium forums :( |
| 05:46.43 | AcidWeb | bluspacecow: Last post i seen from authors said they planning add way to update database easily. So community could handle that. |
| 05:46.51 | AcidWeb | But that was Long Ago™ |
| 05:47.52 | AcidWeb | IMHO carbonite was abandoned long time ago and MoP is just pulling the plug. |
| 06:00.11 | Esamynn | I see the woa saga continues |
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| 06:13.46 | Cairenn | yup |
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| 06:34.17 | mikma | cairenn: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/wishes.jpg |
| 06:34.33 | Cairenn | hehehehe |
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| 06:45.44 | mikma | cairenn: uh, oh! http://i.imgur.com/EvmNb.jpg |
| 06:48.17 | Cairenn | mikma: I know, it's scary scary stuff |
| 06:50.36 | zenzio | ""Windows 8 has been confirmed to not only ignore, but also modify the hosts file. As soon as a website that should be blocked is accessed, the corresponding entry in the hosts file is removed, even if the hosts file is read-only. The hosts file is a popular, cross-platform way of blocking access to certain domains, such as ad-serving websites."" |
| 06:50.40 | zenzio | the fuck? |
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| 06:51.16 | Cairenn | mikma: http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html |
| 06:52.49 | MiRai | zenzio: the cause of that seems to be Windows Defender -- Disable it and you'll be fine. |
| 06:53.06 | zenzio | let's hope that's the case then |
| 06:53.58 | mikma | cairenn: now that's good stuff |
| 06:54.12 | Cairenn | I keep meaning to buy their t-shirts |
| 06:54.19 | MiRai | http://www.ghacks.net/2012/08/19/you-cant-block-facebook-using-windows-8s-hosts-file/ |
| 06:54.23 | Cairenn | the world needs to know, action must be taken! |
| 06:54.26 | MiRai | read the updated portion |
| 06:55.27 | zenzio | MiRai: cheers |
| 06:59.57 | Humbedooh | mikma, s/human/swede/ and it's a true story! |
| 07:01.59 | mikma | humbedooh: what what, in your butt? |
| 07:02.24 | Torhal | A coconut? |
| 07:03.01 | mikma | pineapple |
| 07:03.21 | Humbedooh | mikma, the dog thing! |
| 07:03.50 | Humbedooh | Torhal, see what you made me do last night? :\ I updated a mod...a mod!! |
| 07:04.49 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 07:04.59 | bluspacecow | *runs around in a panic* |
| 07:05.04 | bluspacecow | *crashes into walls* |
| 07:05.40 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 07:05.49 | bluspacecow | food tiems |
| 07:05.53 | bluspacecow | *eats Fisker* |
| 07:06.30 | mikma | tnt everything |
| 07:06.57 | Fisker | i love it MiRai |
| 07:07.08 | Torhal | Humbedooh: LIES! |
| 07:07.21 | Humbedooh | Torhal, truths :'( |
| 07:07.33 | Fisker | that's wrong mikma |
| 07:09.10 | g0urra | so I just heard from a girl (that's younger than me) that she's got a kink for DILFs.. |
| 07:09.26 | Torhal | Donkeys? |
| 07:09.39 | g0urra | slaps Torhal around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:09.48 | Torhal | DIesels? |
| 07:09.52 | zenzio | are you really surprised? |
| 07:09.58 | Torhal | Danes? |
| 07:10.01 | zenzio | look at hwo many girls marry guys twice their age |
| 07:10.17 | g0urra | well, it's the first time I heard it from someone personally. |
| 07:10.29 | g0urra | Torhal: dads. |
| 07:10.42 | Fisker | well g0urra what dad's would you like to fuck? |
| 07:10.45 | Torhal | g0urra: Bah. That's common. |
| 07:10.53 | Torhal | ~wiki golddigger |
| 07:10.56 | Torhal | :D |
| 07:11.00 | g0urra | Torhal: I know. but I don't know many. |
| 07:11.04 | g0urra | lol. |
| 07:11.46 | Torhal | goes back to bed. |
| 07:12.44 | Fisker | you still haven't told me which dads you'd like to fuck g0urra :( |
| 07:13.51 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:13.54 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 07:16.06 | zenzio | I guess I'm lucky I only feel half of those are correct |
| 07:18.07 | Fisker | mad? |
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| 07:27.56 | mikma | cairenn + haste : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2189877/Meet-Face-Kini-latest-craze-hit-Chinas-beaches-bathers-wear-masks-beat-suns-harmful-rays.html |
| 07:28.13 | Cairenn | heh |
| 07:31.44 | Trela | How to look more dumb at the beach. |
| 07:32.03 | Cairenn | less dumb than skin cancer |
| 07:32.47 | Cairenn | now, the fact that they're going to get more sun exposure the rest of the year than they will from one day on the beach is a whole other story |
| 07:33.06 | Trela | I just do not go outside. WINNING! |
| 07:33.20 | Cairenn | heh |
| 07:34.03 | Fisker | it's illegal Cairenn |
| 07:34.21 | bluspacecow | *feeds Fisker a wxcode_msw28u_wxjson_CW.dll* |
| 07:34.34 | Cairenn | What is, Fisker? |
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| 07:37.52 | Fisker | the face masks |
| 07:38.02 | Fisker | they could rob a bank with it! |
| 07:47.22 | arton | puts on a Fisker mask. |
| 07:50.32 | bluspacecow | *licks arton* |
| 07:50.34 | bluspacecow | hi fisker! |
| 07:52.37 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 07:52.46 | bluspacecow | someone QQIng over zygor's charging system |
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| 08:02.12 | Fisker | umad bluspacecow ? |
| 08:04.08 | Esamynn | ~emulate Fisker |
| 08:04.08 | purl | from memory, emulate fisker is "<reply> OH MY GOD I AM GOING TO CUM" |
| 08:04.14 | Fisker | hey Esamynn |
| 08:04.30 | Esamynn | ~poke Fisker |
| 08:04.30 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Fisker, pokes Fisker repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 08:04.32 | Esamynn | heyo |
| 08:04.57 | bluspacecow | ~poke bluspacecow |
| 08:04.57 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind bluspacecow, pokes bluspacecow repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 08:05.42 | Esamynn | O_o |
| 08:07.01 | bluspacecow | ~poke purl |
| 08:07.01 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind purl, pokes purl repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 08:07.08 | bluspacecow | now thats weird |
| 08:07.24 | bluspacecow | : "Due to a software update recently released by McAfee, some customers using the Telecom Security Suite program on their Windows PC maybe experiencing problems accessing the Internet." |
| 08:07.31 | bluspacecow | now that's funny |
| 08:08.02 | Esamynn | facepalm |
| 08:08.26 | bluspacecow | no internets for you telecom security suite users ! |
| 08:08.49 | Fisker | To resolve the issue please visit www.mcafee.com and download the latest update? :3 |
| 08:12.07 | Esamynn | lol |
| 08:16.25 | g0urra | ~mcafee |
| 08:16.32 | g0urra | aw. |
| 08:17.38 | Esamynn | good night |
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| 08:21.54 | Mr_Rabies | oh man, tony scott killed himself :( |
| 08:23.16 | Fisker | thats what the lamestream media wants you to think |
| 08:25.40 | bluspacecow | his dog did it. |
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| 08:32.38 | bluspacecow | ~lastseen Kodiack |
| 08:32.40 | arton | has identified Fisker as Sean Hannity. |
| 08:32.50 | bluspacecow | ~seen Kodiack |
| 08:32.50 | purl | kodiack <~Colton@96-42-240-206.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 24d 23h 26m 12s ago, saying: '<3'. |
| 08:37.59 | arton | https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/191909_487022711317674_1286898842_o.jpg |
| 08:38.02 | arton | :/ |
| 08:38.05 | arton | It's not rape rape. |
| 08:40.13 | nebula169 | i have no words to express the anger i feel toward that man |
| 08:40.21 | Fisker | you always have a choice arton |
| 08:41.57 | arton | Fisker: I choose you! |
| 08:42.09 | Fisker | why does he even say "usually" |
| 08:42.10 | arton | pokefisker |
| 08:42.17 | arton | :/ |
| 08:42.23 | Fisker | that makes no sense |
| 08:43.20 | bluspacecow | vaginas have teeth apparnetly. teeth that eat sperm. |
| 08:43.37 | bluspacecow | either that or his wife's that frigid with him |
| 08:43.46 | arton | heh |
| 08:44.02 | Fisker | then it wouldn't be "usually" |
| 08:44.02 | Fisker | then it would be all the time without exception |
| 08:44.09 | Mr_Rabies | old regressive says horribly offensive thing, this just in, water is wet |
| 08:44.19 | bluspacecow | fire bad ! |
| 08:44.22 | bluspacecow | tree good ! |
| 08:44.41 | arton | No, burning trees isn't bad, ents. |
| 08:44.48 | Fisker | is fire hot Mr_Rabies ? |
| 08:50.11 | Mr_Rabies | not as hot as you ;]]]]]] |
| 08:51.27 | Fisker | :) |
| 08:54.38 | Sintacks | Fisker, y u mad |
| 08:54.50 | Mr_Rabies | he always mad |
| 08:55.10 | Mr_Rabies | ur just so made all the time its 2 easy 23 own u |
| 08:57.00 | Fisker | never mad Sintacks |
| 08:59.46 | Sintacks | y u mad tho |
| 09:05.46 | Mr_Rabies | this is why fisker's mad, Sintacks |
| 09:05.52 | Mr_Rabies | http://youtu.be/-XSq0PvVxMs (turn on captions) |
| 09:06.28 | Vladinator | lol |
| 09:07.04 | Sintacks | HOLY FUCK THAT WAS LOUD |
| 09:07.26 | Vladinator | I have no comment :P |
| 09:07.41 | Sintacks | hahahahahahahahahhha |
| 09:08.34 | Sintacks | [she moves away from the mic to breathe] |
| 09:08.35 | Sintacks | oh god i lost it |
| 09:08.37 | Sintacks | i can't watch anymore |
| 09:09.26 | Sintacks | dafuq did Tony Scott do that for |
| 09:10.04 | Mr_Rabies | he had some health problems lately, it might be related :( |
| 09:16.28 | g0urra | Mr_Rabies: what the fuck |
| 09:16.57 | Mr_Rabies | that's not even the weirdest thing i've linked this hour |
| 09:17.15 | Vladinator | ~whois Mr_Rabies |
| 09:17.15 | purl | i heard mr_rabies is Mrs_Rabies |
| 09:17.41 | Vladinator | purl, use upper case I when you speak |
| 09:18.13 | zenzio | sounds like I don't want to click the link |
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| 09:39.28 | mikma | cogwheel: why is the fiskerfree mc-server being reset? |
| 09:42.05 | amro | running low on fiskercides |
| 09:47.26 | Fisker | sry mikma i turned down the invite |
| 09:49.19 | mikma | fisker: and after that you begged to be accepted |
| 09:49.53 | Fisker | was more curious in respect to something you were doing on the server, so no |
| 09:50.01 | Fisker | umad? |
| 09:50.27 | mikma | nope |
| 09:50.33 | Fisker | somad |
| 09:50.45 | mikma | nope.jpg |
| 09:51.01 | mikma | cause you were missing, i had to burn down half of the map |
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| 09:53.16 | zenzio | hm, a google image search for "nope.jpg" yields some interesting results |
| 09:54.45 | Semlar | nope |
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| 10:01.32 | mikma | zenzio: what about rukkaset.jpg? ... nsfw nsfw, nsfw. |
| 10:01.45 | zenzio | no idea |
| 10:01.56 | zenzio | sounds like a bad word in some language |
| 10:02.18 | mikma | it's 'wintermittens' |
| 10:05.35 | Semlar | are you finnish |
| 10:05.54 | mikma | who me? noooooooooooo ;) |
| 10:06.20 | Semlar | where's the nearest ikea |
| 10:06.35 | mikma | let's see. just a moment |
| 10:06.39 | Semlar | >_> |
| 10:07.32 | mikma | semlar: http://goo.gl/maps/7pIQc - 10.6km |
| 10:07.47 | Semlar | sweet |
| 10:08.04 | Semlar | i can't pronounce any of these words |
| 10:08.52 | Semlar | why does google translate rukkaset to "the ax" |
| 10:10.08 | Semlar | axes are nothing like mittens! |
| 10:13.23 | Semlar | does anyone know if it's possible to hook the OnClick event of all buttons without looping through every frame in the interface |
| 10:15.06 | mikma | hmmmmmmmmmm |
| 10:15.16 | mikma | i remember doing something with buttonhooking once |
| 10:15.45 | mikma | i just need to find it |
| 10:15.46 | Semlar | i know you can hook common methods by accessing the meta table but i can't figure out if there's any way to do that for hookscript |
| 10:17.13 | mikma | i had a pvp anti-idle addon that hooked buttons |
| 10:20.25 | mikma | it was in wowace svn but don't know how to get it from there :D |
| 10:20.37 | Semlar | do you know what it's called? |
| 10:21.01 | mikma | i think it was CaveTroll |
| 10:21.07 | mikma | it was under my name in wowace svn |
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| 10:24.38 | Semlar | i think the svn is gone |
| 10:24.55 | mikma | mikk: loooooooool |
| 10:24.59 | mikma | mikk: http://mikk.cjb.net/chat-filtering.html |
| 10:25.12 | mikma | mikk: "Mikma i will personally travel into sweden to assrape Mikk if he writes a Prat plugin." |
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| 10:25.30 | mikma | nukes client-7-217.eduroam.oxuni.org.uk |
| 10:26.28 | mikma | rtharper: http://mikk.cjb.net/chat-filtering.html -> ctrl+f -> assrape |
| 10:26.34 | zenzio | http://jsforcats.com/ |
| 10:28.35 | rtharper | lol |
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| 10:35.00 | Semlar | http://code.google.com/p/mikma-wow/source/browse/trunk/CaveTroll/CaveTroll.lua?r=239 bam |
| 10:37.03 | mikma | well there you go |
| 10:37.26 | mikma | i don't know do those hooksecurefunc's work now but that's how i did it |
| 10:37.48 | Semlar | yer, basically you just hooked any movement actions |
| 10:38.06 | Semlar | unfortunately it's not what i need for this |
| 10:40.15 | zenzio | what do you need it for? |
| 10:40.44 | Semlar | i'm trying to hook the OnClick event for basically every action button so i can run my own function after it |
| 10:41.18 | zenzio | out of curiosity, what does your function do? |
| 10:41.24 | Semlar | i came up with something that works for the default interface but apparently addons like bartender use a library which makes its own action buttons |
| 10:41.52 | Semlar | the function just plays an animation on top of the button when it's pressed |
| 10:43.13 | Semlar | you'd think since all the buttons have to inherit a secure template i could just hook one of the functions in there but they aren't being called by bartender |
| 10:44.22 | zenzio | don't suppose you could dirty-hook CreateFrame without tainting (and even then it'd probably not be easy) |
| 10:44.41 | zenzio | is CreateFrame even a lua function? |
| 10:44.45 | Semlar | it is |
| 10:44.51 | Semlar | well, you can hook it |
| 10:45.14 | Semlar | that's basically my backup, but i don't want to have to do that if i can avoid it |
| 10:45.23 | zenzio | unless you can fetch the frame it returns, I don't know how useful it can be |
| 10:46.26 | Semlar | i just wrote a function that runs through every child of UIParent and uses getattribute to check if it's an action button then called hookscript on it |
| 10:46.53 | Semlar | to get the ones created before my addon loaded |
| 10:49.57 | Semlar | it's not quite as elegant as just calling hooksecurefunc('SecureActionButton_OnClick', function(button) print(button:GetName()) end) |
| 10:50.14 | zenzio | hehe, yeah |
| 10:51.09 | Semlar | i just wanted to make sure there wasn't some way to apply something like hookscript through the meta table |
| 10:51.18 | zenzio | I stole AddMessage on chat frames in order to filter out junk... felt a bit dirty too, but worked |
| 10:52.44 | Semlar | there's actually a function called ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter for stuff like that |
| 10:53.30 | Semlar | i hooked addmessage to filter the server out of player names in the chat though |
| 10:54.02 | zenzio | I was a bit more intrusive than merely filtering :-) But good point |
| 10:55.03 | zenzio | I'm still intrigued that the game seems hard-coded to stop messages with "peon" in them |
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| 10:55.18 | zenzio | at least it did for me a while back when we were talking about the Good Old Days in guild chat |
| 10:55.43 | Cairenn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcOi6npIsVc |
| 10:56.01 | Semlar | i saw the badwords filter in the dbc files but i don't think i ever opened it |
| 10:56.06 | neutronimity | I changed my battle.net password |
| 10:56.33 | mikma | cairenn|afk: i love the push - pause -touch |
| 10:56.44 | neutronimity | It wouldn't let me type longer than 16 or 17 characters |
| 10:57.16 | Fisker | 16 |
| 10:57.28 | neutronimity | :< |
| 10:57.37 | zenzio | "haters gonna hate" |
| 10:57.42 | Semlar | is your password "passwordpasswordpassword |
| 10:57.55 | neutronimity | My password is an expression of love |
| 10:58.37 | Semlar | i love when places put these arbitrary rules on what you have to have in your password |
| 10:58.58 | neutronimity | It asked me to put at least 1 numerical letter |
| 10:59.36 | neutronimity | Hmm .. 2 sets of passwords, maybe three .. |
| 11:00.02 | Semlar | my insurance company required one letter, one number, no more than 15 characters and you couldn't repeat anything more than twice in a row |
| 11:00.20 | neutronimity | aabbcc |
| 11:00.27 | zenzio | 0123456789abcde |
| 11:00.29 | neutronimity | ooh not valid |
| 11:00.33 | Semlar | i was just like.. i'm never going to remember what i set my password to |
| 11:00.34 | Kalroth | you should use foreign characters in your password, make it PæsSwøRd |
| 11:00.52 | neutronimity | µ |
| 11:01.06 | zenzio | Kalroth: think I mentioned this before, but SWTOR refused to let me use "å" in a security question answer |
| 11:01.13 | Cairenn|afk | http://keepass.info/ |
| 11:01.15 | Kalroth | >< |
| 11:01.21 | Semlar | half the time they won't accept anything that isn't alphanumeric |
| 11:01.31 | Kalroth | keep ass, why yes thank you! |
| 11:01.46 | mikma | i'd like to keep my ass |
| 11:01.47 | zenzio | keep ass info actually |
| 11:02.00 | zenzio | sounds like a site with celebrity ass facts |
| 11:02.17 | Kalroth | i tried one of those password hives, but the problem I had was integration into programs |
| 11:02.21 | zenzio | cause you *know* someone on the Internet will make such a site |
| 11:03.32 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://hackaday.com/2012/08/14/making-chiptunes-with-32-bytes-of-ram/ |
| 11:03.45 | neutronimity | What would people think if we were required to enter two different passwords, instead of one? Or even three |
| 11:06.03 | Semlar | i can't be bothered to remember the one, i'd just end up recovering my password every time i wanted to log in |
| 11:06.19 | zenzio | game music back in the day was so different, and usually in a good way, than today |
| 11:07.51 | Semlar | you might like keygenjukebox.com |
| 11:08.26 | zenzio | Semlar: that looks awesome, thanks :) |
| 11:08.31 | Semlar | :P |
| 11:10.42 | Semlar | oh god, this reminds me of the time i tried to write an addon that played midis by storing a handful of notes and playing them with a script |
| 11:13.53 | zenzio | ... |
| 11:14.19 | zenzio | how did you come up with that idea? |
| 11:14.29 | Semlar | i don't know what i was thinking |
| 11:17.21 | mikma | semlar + zenzio : http://youtu.be/m1pchpDD5EU?hd=1 |
| 11:18.29 | zenzio | that's awesome :-o |
| 11:19.03 | zenzio | man, just the style of this music brings back memories |
| 11:19.28 | zenzio | the other day I couldn't get the Bubble Bobble music out of my head |
| 11:20.13 | Semlar | korobeiniki tetris music |
| 11:26.14 | zenzio | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-pUAK1gR2M |
| 11:26.18 | zenzio | why do I do this to myself |
| 11:28.46 | Semlar | if it makes you feel any better i have a kirby song set as my ring tone |
| 11:30.07 | zenzio | my ringtone is the Oblivion intro |
| 11:33.49 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/nokia/Offenbach_-_Can_Can.mp3 |
| 11:34.54 | zenzio | searched for "chiptune" on Spotify... "Did you mean Chipmunk?" |
| 11:36.01 | mikma | no. i meant 'duckface' fuckdace |
| 11:36.06 | Semlar | why do i have like 15 different battle.net update agents running |
| 11:36.58 | Semlar | this seems like overkill |
| 11:37.23 | mikma | zenzio: also, for your pleasure: http://mikma.eu/nokia/bubble_bobble.mp3 |
| 11:38.00 | zenzio | Semlar: not sure if it's related, but every time I try to launch the WoW launcher lately, it opens it twice |
| 11:38.35 | Semlar | i think it might be spawning an update agent every time i launch the beta and never closes it |
| 11:38.45 | zenzio | mikma: =D |
| 11:38.50 | mikma | zenzio: feel free to use it as your ringtone, i did ;) |
| 11:38.57 | zenzio | I probably will! |
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| 11:42.57 | mikma | zenzio: hah! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq9ZZ8zilDw&feature=related |
| 11:43.24 | zenzio | oh man |
| 11:43.43 | mikma | hmm turrican |
| 11:43.59 | zenzio | captain obvious, but they just don't make music like that anymore :-( |
| 11:44.11 | zenzio | I'm sure today's youth wouldn't appreciate it, but come on.. fuck them |
| 11:45.03 | mikma | that reminded me of the event my friends arranged in assembly some years ago |
| 11:45.21 | zenzio | it's damn impressive what they pulled off with the limitations back then |
| 11:46.03 | mikma | hmm, alt party or assembly |
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| 11:49.27 | zenzio | alt party? |
| 11:49.51 | mikma | zenzio: http://youtu.be/sj3GyyqhcRI?t=35s that's my friend playing the keyboard ;) |
| 11:50.18 | zenzio | I never had friends who were as into computers as I was. We'd have LAN parties, but they were all about games |
| 11:51.07 | zenzio | cool |
| 11:53.13 | mikma | too bad i can't find the photos of my friends picking Al Lowe from the airport |
| 11:53.21 | mikma | they had the sign "KEN SENT ME" up :D |
| 12:05.34 | Ackis | http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/04/a-video-game-designed-to-treat-depression-worked-better-than-counseling/256324/ I thought video games only killed people or smethimg |
| 12:06.45 | zenzio | that's clearly game publisher propaganda |
| 12:07.23 | Kalroth | Ackis: yeah, like that republican congress member that said that if you get pregnant during a rape, then it was a willing act |
| 12:07.57 | neutronimity | :o |
| 12:08.00 | Kalroth | there are a lot of nutters out there |
| 12:08.56 | zenzio | they should stop going on live shows, so they have time to properly phrase their opinions |
| 12:09.02 | zenzio | since they all claim afterwards that they misspoke |
| 12:10.52 | Ackis | Kalroth: that's mericans for you |
| 12:14.08 | Semlar | let's be fair, it's people in general |
| 12:14.25 | Kalroth | yeah, im pretty sure the dumbs isn't limited to americans |
| 12:15.00 | zenzio | absolutely |
| 12:15.17 | Ackis | I didn't say americans, I said mericans |
| 12:15.20 | zenzio | though I think Semlar meant not just politicians |
| 12:15.39 | Ackis | although I don't understand how idiots like that get elected |
| 12:16.03 | Fisker | yeah Kalroth is a great example of it not being limited to americans |
| 12:16.07 | Kalroth | HEHE |
| 12:16.18 | Kalroth | ya fisker we're best danish dumb buddies |
| 12:16.22 | Ackis | we had a few people running for office here that made weird remarks about religion, etc (look for the Wildrose Party in Alberta) and it probably cost them winning the election |
| 12:16.39 | Kalroth | you like to play with nvidia, i like to play with poo - we're almost the same |
| 12:18.32 | g0urra | hm.. the #wowwiki channel is really dead |
| 12:19.37 | zenzio | isn't the site too? |
| 12:19.43 | zenzio | or is it still being maintained? |
| 12:19.50 | Semlar | i thought wowpedia replaced it |
| 12:19.55 | zenzio | yeah |
| 12:21.59 | Ackis | Kalroth: http://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/yhyvp/wow_til_the_opposite_of_what_akins_said_is_true/ apparently your chances of getting pregnant are higher when you're raped |
| 12:22.56 | Kalroth | Ackis: >< |
| 12:23.27 | Semlar | so what you're saying is if you're struggling to conceive you should try rape |
| 12:23.37 | Ackis | no, that's not what I'm suggesting |
| 12:23.44 | Semlar | that's not what i heard |
| 12:25.44 | Semlar | i'd like to know how they performed this test |
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| 12:34.29 | mckenziemc | wonders when Cairenn is going to fix the cut-off link in the /topic |
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| 12:37.47 | mckenziemc | get back to space bluworkcow |
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| 12:38.08 | bluworkcow | lol |
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| 12:39.38 | mckenziemc | hey peppy |
| 12:39.49 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, mckenziemc. |
| 12:40.46 | bluworkcow | oh hai2u Peppy |
| 12:40.49 | zenzio | ohai peppy |
| 12:41.32 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, blueberry and zenzio. |
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| 12:57.11 | Ackis | is 31 too young to think about funeral planning/will? |
| 12:57.35 | mckenziemc | die Ackis |
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| 12:57.51 | Semlar | i wouldn't start thinking about it until well after i'm dead |
| 12:58.01 | mckenziemc | heh |
| 12:58.11 | Kalroth | Ackis: run-away trucks got no age restriction |
| 12:58.39 | Ackis | I just want to plan certain things for my funeral... e.g. burial/cremation, cheapest coffin availible, play the tetris music when I'm lowered in to the ground |
| 12:59.04 | Kalroth | a will is always a good idea, but I'd probably wait with the funeral planning other than specific wishes (religious stuff, etc.) |
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| 12:59.11 | Kalroth | lol |
| 12:59.26 | Kalroth | cremation and the super mario star sound for me |
| 12:59.33 | Ackis | my brother in law died just over a year ago and I saw how expensive his funeral was /shrug |
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| 13:00.46 | zenzio | you won't really be the one paying when you're dead ;-o |
| 13:01.38 | Kalroth | that's why i prefer cremation |
| 13:01.39 | Ackis | my wife/children will |
| 13:01.43 | Lopeppeppy | 31 isn't too young, Ackis. My parents didn't think about theirs at ALL. 68 and 72, we made all the decisions for them. |
| 13:02.47 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: any idea where to get started? I'm assuming a lawyer (family law) |
| 13:03.36 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. Funeral home director. :) Decide with them what you want, and THEN go to your lawyer to write your will. |
| 13:03.39 | Kalroth | Ackis: I'm sure there are some online guides how to write a proper will |
| 13:04.02 | Kalroth | remember that you'll have to keep it updated constantly, so a lawyer may be expensive |
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| 13:04.32 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: wouldn't that assume the funeral home will be around in the 1day - 50 years I have left? |
| 13:04.38 | Lopeppeppy | A good lawyer can help you write a general one that will last for at least 5 years. |
| 13:04.53 | Ackis | Kalroth: agreed, but I figured the first one might need to be lawyered |
| 13:05.23 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, the funeral director can tell you the basic options - if there even ARE cheap caskets, how cremation works, etc. So you know your options before you put something in your will that you can't have, and it invalidates the entire will. |
| 13:05.24 | Kalroth | Thats true |
| 13:05.27 | mckenziemc | one day? you only have two hours |
| 13:08.14 | Ackis | thanks mckenziemc |
| 13:08.38 | Ackis | I don't know if you're being pessimistic or optimistic |
| 13:09.35 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 13:09.36 | Lopeppeppy | 'twixt optimist and pessimist the difference is quite droll; one sees the donut, the other sees the hole. |
| 13:09.38 | Fisker | however not hey Kalroth |
| 13:09.49 | Kalroth | haaay Fisker *snuggle*hug*hug* |
| 13:10.04 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:10.15 | Lopeppeppy | that's not a nice breakfast, Fisker. |
| 13:10.15 | mckenziemc | ~Fiskerslap |
| 13:10.15 | purl | ACTION slaps a large trout around a bit with Fisker. |
| 13:10.27 | Fisker | fish is healthy Lopeppeppy |
| 13:14.24 | Lopeppeppy | So is my cranberry muffin. And it's tastier than lutefisk. |
| 13:15.38 | mckenziemc | licks Lopeppeppy. |
| 13:16.42 | Lopeppeppy | Cranberry flavored Peppy for breakfast. You're weird! |
| 13:16.52 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 13:30.28 | batrick | Thunder_Child: =D |
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| 13:38.17 | Torhal | Ackis: Z-shaped coffin, IMO. |
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| 13:47.24 | Kraps | whos dying |
| 13:47.51 | Humbedooh | we all are, very slowly :\ |
| 13:47.58 | Torhal | Kraps: [07:58:39] <Ackis> I just want to plan certain things for my funeral... e.g. burial/cremation, cheapest coffin availible, play the tetris music when I'm lowered in to the ground |
| 13:48.12 | mckenziemc | i can change that Humbedooh. |
| 13:49.20 | Humbedooh | mckenziemc, I'm sure you're good at a lot of things |
| 13:50.08 | Kraps | kill you're self |
| 13:53.04 | mckenziemc | am not |
| 13:56.59 | Lopeppeppy | Are so |
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| 14:03.06 | Humbedooh | donates mckenziemc to science |
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| 14:27.19 | Lopeppeppy | I need a new "Moron beating stick" |
| 14:27.22 | Lopeppeppy | I just broke mine. |
| 14:31.20 | Kaylin | :( use a nice piece of rebar next time |
| 14:31.33 | Kaylin | it bends a little instead of breaking and has a very nice texture. |
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| 14:36.45 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, rebar! We have construction going on campus, I could just nip over and ask Project Manager Dean for a loaner weapo...er... sample of construction grade steel material. |
| 14:39.33 | Amarande | Peppy, you need http://www.wowhead.com/item=17182 obviously :) |
| 14:40.22 | Kaylin | http://www.wowhead.com/item=65941 |
| 14:40.27 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, big stick of beating heads! |
| 14:42.44 | Amarande | And, of course, what Ten Ton Hammer will be nothing more than when we're through with them: http://www.wowhead.com/item=25402 |
| 14:44.04 | Kaylin | really buff humans wearing skin tight underwear? |
| 14:44.11 | Kaylin | or is the screenshot misleading? |
| 14:45.33 | Torhal | The Stoppable Force. |
| 14:46.41 | Amarande | Kaylin: really, you didn't check to see that it was the most iconic grey vendor trash hammer ever to grace WoW :D |
| 14:47.04 | Amarande | Heh. It's strange, but I think it might be the most remembered hammer in the game as a whole (excepting Val'anyr perhaps) |
| 14:47.06 | Kaylin | course I did, but i got uh, distracted >_> |
| 14:48.03 | Amarande | Most people have probably actually encountered it, it has a catchy name, the only one that might be more "known" is Sulfuras, but if you didn't play in Vanilla and don't spend lots of time in trade/poring over the achievements list/reading wowhead/wowpedia, you might not know about Sulfuras |
| 14:48.13 | Amarande | While you've probably seen The Stoppable Force. You've probably vendored it, even. :) |
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| 14:50.51 | Dagmar | I have. :) |
| 14:54.49 | Amarande | You know, it's too bad grey vendor trash can't be mogged |
| 14:55.04 | Amarande | It would be nifty to have an arms warrior mogged into a full grey armour set and a stoppable force |
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| 15:00.16 | Fisker | will the patch coming in a week or so be 5.0.4 or will it be like 5.0.1 and then there will be a patch to 5.0.4 when mop arrives? |
| 15:00.59 | Amarande | Fisker: that's a good question, since I heard last night someone say the proper TOC for addons for next week will be 50001, you'd think it would be 50004 if we're getting 5.0.4 straight off |
| 15:01.10 | Amarande | But I've also heard 5.0.4 will be the first 5.0 patch to hit live |
| 15:01.32 | Semlar | the correct interface is currently 50001 |
| 15:01.39 | Amarande | (and as I understand, for patch x.y.z, the TOC should be x0y0z) |
| 15:02.21 | Fisker | i don't think they ever actually used the minor revisions |
| 15:02.30 | Semlar | well, the correct toc for live is 40300 and it's 4.3.4 |
| 15:02.38 | Fisker | like it was always 5x000 or |
| 15:02.44 | Ressy | 5.0.4 is the 28th |
| 15:02.53 | Semlar | it SHOULD be 50000 on the beta but it's 50001 |
| 15:03.37 | Ressy | Its going to be like Cata.. Stuff just unlocks the day of expansion |
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| 15:05.14 | Fisker | yes except that worked like i described it |
| 15:05.17 | Fisker | 4.0.1 |
| 15:05.21 | Fisker | then 4.0.3 was cataclysm |
| 15:05.28 | Fisker | well technically it was 4.0.3a |
| 15:05.39 | nevcairiel | there was no patch on release day |
| 15:05.57 | nevcairiel | in any case, it will be 5.0.4 in 8 days |
| 15:07.27 | Amarande | Ressy: does that mean that the dungeon changes (e.g. Scholomance and Scarlet Monastery) are coming the 28th, not on MoP release day? |
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| 15:10.37 | Stanzilla | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqXltcnOMCY |
| 15:16.44 | TC-Work | so they systems department just switched over to gmail as the first stage.....I'm going to be re-stting up my filters for the next few hours >.< |
| 15:17.00 | TC-Work | setting* |
| 15:17.28 | Ressy | prolly |
| 15:18.52 | Ressy | I haven't kept up with dungeon changes.. But if they changed any aspect of the 1-85, it'll be included on 28th. |
| 15:34.52 | Adys | http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/233/b/e/breaking_bad_adventure_game_by_nogert-d5bvrhq.jpg |
| 15:34.55 | Adys | this is brilliant |
| 15:34.59 | Adys | (brba "spoiler") |
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| 15:37.53 | Unkle | Um, like ... station or some shit. |
| 15:41.40 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, Foo, save it. |
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| 15:45.26 | Amarande | heh, someone in trade says that Blizzard's gimmicks never hold their interest for long |
| 15:46.02 | Amarande | so I'm like "okay, how about that one where they thought 'okay, let's take Warcraft and make it into this here RPG world where you can explore the world of Azeroth as you like and ...'" |
| 15:46.03 | nilyaK | doesn't talking in Trade require a paid World of WarCraft account license and paid game time? |
| 15:47.08 | g0urra | yes |
| 15:48.23 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, that person logged in to Warcraft in order to badmouth Bliz. |
| 15:49.26 | durcyn | which has never happened before and should be discussed at length |
| 15:53.21 | Unkle | And in great detail, exploring all nuances and sub-themes. |
| 15:54.12 | nilyaK | thinks we should research on the forums first, maybe trying to experience things from the other user's perspective... brb trolling FOR SCIENCE! |
| 15:54.41 | Lopeppeppy | Check the sticky posts. Your answer is always there. |
| 15:54.50 | bluworkcow | yes we should unkle |
| 15:54.50 | Amarande | heh, it was part of a convo about people's thoughts on whether or not pet battles would actually remain popular for any length of time |
| 15:55.40 | Lopeppeppy | pet battles, like all dueling, is epeen stroking. |
| 15:56.04 | Amarande | I'm guessing it will probably stop being popular once most folks have got any associated achievements |
| 15:56.14 | g0urra | is pet battles going to be with the patch or MoP? |
| 15:56.22 | Amarande | like dueling. you duel so you can either pass that death knight starter quest or you get the "win a duel" achievement (I think there's one) |
| 15:56.47 | Amarande | other than that, there's not really much practical point to dueling, except in a few very specific cases (apparently it could rescue people from certain forms of being stuck) |
| 15:57.10 | Ackis | http://i.imgur.com/mVhWE.png <- D3 game director says "fuck that loser" about D1/D2 game director person |
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| 15:58.00 | Ackis | backstory here: http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/yikph/diablo_3_game_director_to_diablo_12_project_lead/c5vw6d2 |
| 15:58.43 | pompy | you and reddit! |
| 15:58.59 | nilyaK | ackis LOL |
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| 16:00.03 | Stanzilla | Ackis: 17:10:29 ∙ Stanzilla: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqXltcnOMCY |
| 16:00.44 | Ackis | :P |
| 16:01.39 | Adys | Vladinator: an old client of mine opened up a full time spot for a php dev |
| 16:01.51 | Stanzilla | you can't ":D" like 30 seconds after I posted a minutes long video Ackis |
| 16:01.54 | Stanzilla | that's not how it works |
| 16:01.56 | Stanzilla | you have to watch it first |
| 16:01.58 | pompy | "The Dota 2 Spectator Client is now available to everyone on Steam!" |
| 16:02.00 | Vladinator | Adys :O |
| 16:02.01 | Adys | Vladinator: i did a 6 weeks project for half the annual price they're giving |
| 16:02.14 | Adys | Vladinator: thats coming from the *same* company |
| 16:02.35 | Adys | i mean i dont really care but just an example of how bad php devs have it |
| 16:02.44 | pompy | Stanzilla: did you preorder CS:GO ? |
| 16:02.50 | Vladinator | :( |
| 16:02.50 | Ackis | Stanzilla: couldn't stand it, turned it off :P |
| 16:02.52 | Stanzilla | pompy: no |
| 16:02.57 | Stanzilla | Ackis: dafuq man |
| 16:03.55 | Unkle | Have you not learned that Ackis delights in the perverse, and mind-bending? Asking "dafuq man" is like feeding him your tears. |
| 16:03.57 | Stanzilla | pompy: why? |
| 16:05.25 | Torhal|work | Ackis: About the D3 fiasco - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqXltcnOMCY |
| 16:05.34 | Torhal|work | Oh fuck off Stanzilla |
| 16:05.37 | Torhal|work | Linking shit first |
| 16:05.42 | Stanzilla | Torhal: so old man |
| 16:05.50 | Stanzilla | or, so, old man! |
| 16:05.53 | Torhal|work | I will delete your threads. |
| 16:06.01 | Stanzilla | amagawd |
| 16:06.09 | Torhal|work | Ehrmegherd! |
| 16:06.12 | TC-Work | anyone know why from:*ups* wouldnt turn up any emails in gamil when i have one from ups01? |
| 16:06.17 | Ackis | coughs all over the IRC channel, spewing his germs |
| 16:06.26 | durcyn | well, at least it's not a Downfall clip |
| 16:06.33 | Stanzilla | if you gave me canadian now, I will fucking kill you |
| 16:07.20 | Kalroth | eh? |
| 16:07.51 | Vladinator | I was asked to port over an outdated website to a new one, I did it in wordpress in 6 hours and said I'd do it for 160 dollars :P |
| 16:08.24 | Vladinator | the cheapest static page I found by a company started from 350 usd and up :P |
| 16:09.17 | Stanzilla | http://www.diablofans.com/news/1319-introducing-the-paragon-system/ |
| 16:09.18 | AcidWeb | Heh they adding another 100 exp levels to d3 |
| 16:10.06 | Amarande | neat. |
| 16:10.18 | Amarande | hmmm. seeing as you apparently have to be level 60 to go to Inferno at all, or so I gather ... |
| 16:10.34 | Amarande | how many Paragon levels do you think one's going to net on average by the time one finishes Inferno on a fresh character started after the patch? |
| 16:12.40 | Vladinator | Ackis: I was really asking for a reference, I have no clues about prices, I realize US and Norway are different, but still I am curious to what you have to say :P |
| 16:14.57 | Ackis | huh? |
| 16:15.17 | Vladinator | I mean't Adys lol, tab :P |
| 16:15.29 | Vladinator | no one cares about you Ackis, go back into your pit |
| 16:15.31 | Ackis | poor Adys there hasn't been a mixup like that in a while |
| 16:15.45 | Adys | Ackis: i wouldnt know if there would be though |
| 16:15.51 | Ackis | liar Vladinator pompy and Torhal care about me |
| 16:15.57 | Vladinator | ~whois Ackis |
| 16:15.57 | purl | hmm... ackis is A person who can code, but just doesn't know how to type. |
| 16:15.59 | pompy | lol |
| 16:16.14 | Adys | Ackis: often in other channels I get my name tabbed instead of some poor fellow asking a question and getting an answer an hour later |
| 16:16.30 | Adys | Ackis: and I rub my hands together with an evil laugh while never correcting them |
| 16:16.33 | Adys | BWAAHHAHAHAHAHA |
| 16:16.40 | Ackis | lol |
| 16:17.18 | TC-Work | ~fail Adys |
| 16:17.18 | purl | You suck at everything in life, Adys. I hate you because you fail. |
| 16:17.51 | Vladinator | :( |
| 16:18.06 | Vladinator | no but really Adys, check what I asked Ackis earlier :P |
| 16:18.58 | Adys | Vladinator: um |
| 16:19.18 | Adys | Vladinator: http://www.peopleperhour.com/freelance-wordpress-jobs to give you an idea |
| 16:19.46 | Vladinator | ah ok, so I work cheap atm, but that was the plan ^^ |
| 16:20.19 | Vladinator | hour rates are fun tough :P |
| 16:20.39 | Adys | 6 hours for a 160 usd job sounds cheap but its all relative |
| 16:20.56 | Adys | client is giving 600gbp for a full time php position so... |
| 16:21.02 | Torhal|work | ROughly $27/hour |
| 16:21.23 | Ackis | Torhal|work: makes $27/hour by blowing other guys |
| 16:21.25 | Vladinator | I know |
| 16:21.39 | Humbedooh | Ackis, at least he doesn't have to deal with php that way |
| 16:21.42 | Vladinator | I just want to be in the ballpark of cheapness :P |
| 16:21.44 | Torhal|work | Ackis: Please clean the sand from your mangina. |
| 16:21.59 | Ackis | except that one night... he said he made $500.10 and I asked him who gave him the 10 cents, to which he replied "All of them" |
| 16:22.23 | Vladinator | Ackis: next time your curse project says you can't modify it for a month, it's Torhal getting payback. |
| 16:22.48 | Ackis | Torhal|work and I have a nuclear dente... |
| 16:30.09 | Fisker | i will fuck you up Ackis |
| 16:30.18 | Adys | http://www.systemcomic.com/2012/08/20/the-system-605-cleaning/ |
| 16:30.23 | Adys | THIS NEVER EVER HAPPENED TO ME ^ |
| 16:30.25 | Adys | like ever. |
| 16:30.38 | Fisker | oh ok Stanzilla |
| 16:30.42 | Fisker | in b4 "game is too easy" |
| 16:30.57 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 16:31.26 | Fisker | is the paragon level then character or account based? |
| 16:31.35 | Stanzilla | character |
| 16:31.38 | Fisker | lame |
| 16:33.21 | Vladinator | Adys: you avoid that by always organizing the bookmarks when you add them, so you don't have to backtrack later to organize :P |
| 16:35.09 | Stanzilla | pompy: urm I just tried to buy CSGO and it says I already own it. did every beta tester get it for free? |
| 16:36.13 | Fisker | no |
| 16:36.14 | Fisker | bug |
| 16:36.20 | Fisker | you need to gift it to yourself |
| 16:37.41 | Adys | Item Compare tooltips have been added to the Recommended Items page. |
| 16:37.45 | Adys | tell me its not only for that page |
| 16:37.46 | Adys | TELL ME |
| 16:37.51 | Adys | YOU FUCKERS, TELL ME YOU DONT DO THIS |
| 16:39.09 | Adys | fucking hell |
| 16:39.17 | Adys | I swear I hope this isn't real. |
| 16:39.26 | durcyn | get mad |
| 16:39.52 | Adys | Im not mad at *this*, i mean at this point i dont care anymore |
| 16:39.57 | bluworkcow | Adys y u haet? |
| 16:39.58 | Adys | I just cant believe it |
| 16:40.36 | Adys | its either a troll, a joke gone wrong or someone at blizzard is actually serious and thought "Yeah. This is what they want." |
| 16:40.55 | bluworkcow | believe it |
| 16:40.58 | Adys | Please note that this isn’t a preview, and that the above list represents every change we are making to the auction house in 1.0.4. |
| 16:41.02 | Adys | holy shit |
| 16:41.04 | Adys | they're serious with this |
| 16:41.04 | bluworkcow | Unkle is _that_ sexy |
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| 16:46.21 | Stanzilla | Adys: umad? |
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| 16:57.13 | Fisker | about what Adys ? |
| 16:58.50 | Adys | Fisker: AH changes in d3 |
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| 17:01.06 | foxlit | Adys: are there any other AH pages where item comparison tooltips don't appear, currently? |
| 17:01.32 | Adys | foxlit: "item comparison" as in "here is the difference with your main stats" |
| 17:02.57 | Adys | University of Reddit |
| 17:03.03 | Adys | an interesting concept |
| 17:03.11 | Adys | loving the Bad Gateway 502 class |
| 17:09.10 | nilyaK | speaking of status codes |
| 17:09.14 | nilyaK | via google: |
| 17:09.15 | nilyaK | 418 I'm a teapot (RFC 2324) This code was defined in 1998 as one of the traditional IETF April Fools' jokes, in RFC 2324, Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol, and is not expected to be implemented by actual HTTP servers. However, known implementations do exist.[12] |
| 17:09.59 | nilyaK | wikipedia searches are fun >_> |
| 17:11.23 | nevcairiel | you didnt know RFC 2324? |
| 17:11.45 | nilyaK | nope never seen that >_> |
| 17:12.05 | durcyn | wait until this guy discovers the avian carrier rfc |
| 17:12.37 | nevcairiel | its RFC 2549 for reference |
| 17:13.16 | nevcairiel | It was actually implemented by a linux user group once =p |
| 17:13.54 | Arrowmaster | the latency is horrible but the throughput is amazing |
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| 17:14.17 | Adys | Look at Arrowmaster talking about his connection again |
| 17:14.39 | nilyaK | that doesn't shock me actually, *nix folk can be pretty excentric. |
| 17:15.05 | Arrowmaster | im supposed to take my cable modem in for replacement today but im not feeling well so i dont want to drive out there |
| 17:15.38 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: fax it |
| 17:15.51 | Arrowmaster | nilyaK: you know why the webcam was invented right? |
| 17:15.57 | nilyaK | I wonder if there exist implementations of rfc 2324 for network enabled coffee machines... |
| 17:15.58 | Adys | Arrowmaster: if i want to replace my cable modem, I ring up my isp on a free phone line and they have a new one here within 48 hours, and i have 3 months to package mine and ask for their ups guy to come pick it up. |
| 17:15.59 | bluworkcow | porn ? |
| 17:16.31 | Adys | Arrowmaster: I know Im not adding to the issue here, I just feel like vanting. |
| 17:16.47 | Arrowmaster | the webcam was invented to check if a coffee machine had an empty pot |
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| 17:30.05 | Ackis | whoever had out dog last must've beat him so much :( |
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| 17:35.35 | Vladinator | why would someone beat a dog? :S |
| 17:36.01 | Ackis | no idea |
| 17:39.30 | Vladinator | I use SteelSeries 5Hv2, recommend me an alternative but preferably cheaper, no more than 500 NOK |
| 17:39.38 | Vladinator | purl, 500 NOK to USD |
| 17:39.56 | Vladinator | ok then I do it manually, 84usd |
| 17:39.56 | ScratchMonkey | are there any good tutorials that explain the architecture of an addon for an experienced programmer in other environments? not syntax, but the organization of the files and how loading and linking works, that sort of thing |
| 17:40.35 | Vladinator | for the widget objects you can look how they are related here http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets_hierarchy |
| 17:40.58 | Vladinator | other than that lua reads top to bottom, starting with the toc file, and yeah, not sure what more to say :P |
| 17:41.11 | ScratchMonkey | ah, forgot about that site, thanks |
| 17:41.15 | foxlit | Vladinator: you could explain .toc files. |
| 17:41.30 | Vladinator | ScratchMonkey: just have never made addons? |
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| 17:41.33 | foxlit | top to bottom is a bit syntaxy :) |
| 17:41.47 | ScratchMonkey | yeah, I know the toc anchors the thing, and I usually see some xml to describe any UI |
| 17:42.04 | ScratchMonkey | I've read many addons but never written one |
| 17:42.13 | Vladinator | xml can contain frame templates, other than that you can create frames with pure lua too, many prefer that :P |
| 17:42.33 | Vladinator | there are actually quite a lot of already existing templates too, hmm |
| 17:42.46 | ScratchMonkey | ok, sounds like other environments, I use wxWidgets in C++ and am working on a C# WPF project right now, which works like that |
| 17:43.08 | ScratchMonkey | what I want that I can't seem to find is a waypoint overshoot alarm |
| 17:43.31 | ScratchMonkey | For when I'm doing arch and I'm off reading email while I leave my toon flying to the next dig |
| 17:43.37 | Vladinator | ah |
| 17:43.51 | Vladinator | several ways you can do it |
| 17:44.02 | ScratchMonkey | I want to sound a ship arrived signal when the waypoint distance starts going up, and the delta passes a threshold, say 30 units |
| 17:44.14 | Vladinator | you can use a frame OnUpdate to run your code and check position each frame or in intervals, or use events that fire when you change zone |
| 17:44.37 | ScratchMonkey | I figure I need to hook the waypoint established event to start the detection, then monitor the distance presumably with a timer event |
| 17:45.06 | ScratchMonkey | zone would be too infrequent, and might never happen, when there's more than one dig in a zone |
| 17:45.06 | Vladinator | you probably use tomtom or something, as the default UI has no waypoints |
| 17:45.20 | Vladinator | but you do have the map blob area thingies, if that is what you meant |
| 17:45.39 | ScratchMonkey | right, I've got carbonite, which emulates tomtom, and archy uses that, I'm guessing by what I'm reading is LDB publication |
| 17:45.44 | Semlar | what do you mean by waypoints |
| 17:45.57 | foxlit | ScratchMonkey: doesn't archy have an option to play a sound when you get close to its waypoint? |
| 17:46.07 | ScratchMonkey | Archy sets a waypoint at the closest dig |
| 17:46.23 | ScratchMonkey | not sure, is that new? I'll check its settings |
| 17:46.30 | AcidWeb | ScratchMonkey: Also dont make any code that depend on carbonite. As it will be unusable in few days. |
| 17:46.30 | foxlit | http://www.wowace.com/addons/archy/localization/phrases/160-when-you-arrive-at-a-waypoint-this-distance-is-controlled/ sounds like it |
| 17:46.49 | ScratchMonkey | ok cool |
| 17:46.54 | Vladinator | generally making code that used other addons is risky, but especially carbonite :P |
| 17:47.02 | Vladinator | like pimping your lada, you are taking a risk |
| 17:47.03 | ScratchMonkey | yeah, carbonite always breaks around expansion releases for a few weeks |
| 17:47.29 | ScratchMonkey | it wouldn't be depending on carbonite specifically, but on the tomtom interface, which is why archy can use it |
| 17:47.29 | AcidWeb | ScratchMonkey: This time is quite possible that will be broken permanently ;p |
| 17:47.30 | foxlit | I wonder if you can just shim your way back to 4.3 rather easily |
| 17:47.50 | foxlit | Nothing too terrible actually changed. |
| 17:48.01 | Vladinator | question: can't we on wowi submit a carbonite patch addon? |
| 17:48.14 | Vladinator | that gets placed as a plugin for carb, like npcscanner and it's extra addons? :P |
| 17:48.18 | foxlit | Vladinator: one does not simply patch an addon. |
| 17:48.23 | ScratchMonkey | I normally start an expansion by removing all addons and adding them back one at a time as they stabilize. And avoid playing the first week of the expansion. Plenty of other games to keep me busy while things stabilize |
| 17:48.25 | foxlit | unless it's like three lines of code. :P |
| 17:48.25 | Semlar | not an addon like carbonite |
| 17:48.59 | ScratchMonkey | yeah, not only is carb huge, but it's semi-compiled with no source available, so it's as cryptic as old TRS-80 programs |
| 17:49.40 | Ackis | you're probably pretty safe relying on archy or tomtom to be updated for the next while |
| 17:50.04 | Ackis | without public api's breaking or anything |
| 17:50.30 | ScratchMonkey | knowing that the archy arrived setting is there, I can probably tweak that if it doesn't quite do what I want |
| 17:51.00 | Semlar | getting the nearest archaeology waypoint isn't very difficult |
| 17:51.02 | ScratchMonkey | I'm thinking that detecting arrival can fail if your course is off too much, so I want an alarm that watches for the distance to start going up, meaning I passed the waypoint |
| 17:51.36 | Vladinator | dota has released spectator client, so now you can all spectate me while I suck :P |
| 17:51.41 | foxlit | fun fact: searching for "Carbonite" on wowi finds you everything but the actual Carbonite addon. |
| 17:52.13 | Vladinator | :3 |
| 17:52.15 | ScratchMonkey | The closet dig might be 2-3 zones away, 3 minutes, and hitting the waypoint by eyeball is pretty iffy, esp. if you first need to dodge a tree or mountain |
| 17:52.36 | ScratchMonkey | it's a real pita profession in that respect |
| 17:52.44 | Vladinator | ScratchMonkey: read http://www.wowpedia.org/Addons#Creating_an_AddOn to get started with addons, then look at the TOC format link on that page, then check wowprogramming too for API and information, wowpedia.org also has a lot of info ;) |
| 17:52.58 | ScratchMonkey | ok, thanks |
| 17:53.16 | Vladinator | but I am not aware of one "the complete wowlua documentation bible edition" |
| 17:53.20 | AcidWeb | ScratchMonkey: As Vladinator said use OnUpdate event or make timer using some libarary and monitor distance data. |
| 17:53.24 | ScratchMonkey | I just recently discovered fatigue alarm, which has saved me the big repair bill from flying off the continent while multitasking |
| 17:53.38 | AcidWeb | *library |
| 17:53.43 | Vladinator | note that OnUpdate does not update if you minimize the game, Animation system does update in the background |
| 17:54.16 | AcidWeb | Vladinator: Use semi-fullscreen ;p |
| 17:54.22 | Vladinator | then it doesn't mater |
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| 17:54.30 | Vladinator | I use semi fullscreen |
| 17:56.05 | ScratchMonkey | I always run windowed so that I can multitask |
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| 18:04.17 | kd3 | ack, services |
| 18:04.23 | kd3 | also, holy crap at jintai ep 8 |
| 18:05.25 | Arrowmaster`` | kd3: told you |
| 18:08.15 | kd3 | winces thinking about the 'time paradog' now that he's reading reviews of the ep |
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| 18:10.49 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: devise me a technique to determine whether or not a function is defined in C or Lua on the beta servers |
| 18:11.01 | jnwhiteh | now that they've removed string.dump (which is probably your fault) |
| 18:11.08 | foxlit | jnwhiteh: check it against the list on http://www.wowpedia.org/Global_functions/Mists |
| 18:11.45 | jnwhiteh | I'd be more interested in knowing how you're generating that list |
| 18:11.48 | jnwhiteh | since I used to do the same |
| 18:11.48 | jnwhiteh | =/ |
| 18:12.06 | Amarande | what was wrong with string.dump? |
| 18:12.11 | foxlit | they got rid of it. |
| 18:12.14 | TC-Work | "we also appear to have found a rather unfortunate services bug which cores services." is that litteral or bad english? |
| 18:12.26 | Amarande | but, do they not *want* addon devs to know all the usable functions? |
| 18:12.34 | jnwhiteh | no, it has nothing to do with that |
| 18:12.36 | kd3 | literal, I'd assume. the services daemon is dumping cores |
| 18:12.36 | foxlit | As far as I know, that function couldn't be used for anything nefarious, but was also pretty pointless. |
| 18:12.39 | jnwhiteh | that's a side-effect |
| 18:12.56 | jnwhiteh | debug.getinfo would make it easy again, but I won't see that anytime soon :P |
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| 18:13.22 | Fisker | wow |
| 18:13.40 | Fisker | 6-8 million mobs to get level 100 D: |
| 18:13.45 | Fisker | wtb horde mode |
| 18:14.28 | Amarande | so, how do they expect people to figure things out? just randomly try stuff and hope it works? |
| 18:14.38 | Amarande | Fisker: do you lose paragon xp when you die, though? |
| 18:14.50 | Fisker | i don't think so? |
| 18:15.11 | kd3 | generally if we can't figure it out we start bitching in emails to the team |
| 18:15.21 | Amarande | Well, then ... The nerve-wracking thing in D2 wasn't even so much the sheer amount of XP that you needed (e.g., that it took more to get from 98-99 as from scratch to 70) |
| 18:16.00 | nilyaK | d2 had other penalties with xp gain after 70 |
| 18:16.39 | Amarande | It was the combination of two factors: XP nerfs at top levels (which combined *twofold* eventually, because not only was there the one for killing things too much lower level than you, and except for the uber event mobs, once 1.10 came out basically all but three specific mobs were "too much lower level than you" by 98 - there was also a steadily increasing penalty to XP across the board from |
| 18:16.39 | Amarande | 70 on up) |
| 18:16.53 | nilyaK | xp formula changed past 70, you got penalized for each level above 70 you were and in addition this was multiplied with a modifier based on how large the difference in your level vs monster level you were |
| 18:17.08 | nilyaK | yes 98 is slow, I have a 98 atm |
| 18:17.16 | nevcairiel | and since monster levels didnt scale all the way to 99, you were basically screwed :P |
| 18:17.24 | Amarande | And the fact that when you died on Hell (which you had to be on to get any more than a single experience point per mob well before 98), you lost 10% of the XP needed to get to the next level (level down wasn't allowed though, unlike some games) |
| 18:18.20 | Amarande | nev: yeah, there are exactly ten mobs in the game with levels higher than 88 |
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| 18:18.26 | Amarande | and seven of them require special circumstances to spawn |
| 18:18.45 | nilyaK | which leaves you with baal, nihlathak, and Diablo |
| 18:19.18 | Amarande | Baal = 99, Nihlathak = 95, Diablo = 94 (all of these are at least within "sweet-spot" level range at 98 so you at least "only" suffer the 99.5% cut to XP for being level 98) |
| 18:19.23 | Amarande | and all the special event mobs are level 110 |
| 18:19.39 | nilyaK | 110 is outside of the sweet spot, it goes both ways |
| 18:19.54 | Amarande | yeah, but the downgrade is a lot less marked when you're below the mob's level |
| 18:20.00 | nilyaK | +/- 10 = 5% exp multiplicatively |
| 18:20.14 | Amarande | Only on the lower side past level ... 25, I think it is. |
| 18:20.28 | nilyaK | yes 3 formulas |
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| 18:20.32 | Amarande | Above 25, the % you get is equal to your level divided by the mob's level |
| 18:20.36 | nilyaK | 1-25, 26-70, 71-99 |
| 18:20.57 | nilyaK | http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/basics/experience.shtml |
| 18:20.58 | Amarande | So if I remember it right the base XP at 98 for an Uber is 49/55 of the sticker value (not counting level based nerf) |
| 18:21.52 | AcidWeb | Torhal|work: "Update ToC Interface to 40300 just to say "Fuck off" to World of Addons. Take my shit off of your goddamn page, you thieving assholes." lol |
| 18:21.57 | Amarande | Yeah. At 26 you get the lesser penalties for monsters higher than your level, at 71 you start getting the blanket nerf |
| 18:22.14 | AcidWeb | Torhal|work: Well played ;d |
| 18:22.29 | Jeremybell | Hi guys, I have a question about an error I get where I "Attempt to index global 'prof_db' (a nil value) http://pastebin.com/fwV96XF9 |
| 18:22.43 | Amarande | I'm pretty sure the 1-25 difference was designed to prevent people from completely short circuiting the need to level in Normal difficulty by going straight to cows, since 1.10 allowed you to start doing cows from the get go |
| 18:22.55 | nilyaK | http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/monsters/act5-uberbaal.shtml |
| 18:23.09 | Amarande | And the 71+ nerf is actually, again, to keep you from short circuiting things by doing cows, as 1.09 was all cows all the time :P |
| 18:23.12 | nilyaK | decent chunk of exp for ubers but you will get that tuned down heavily |
| 18:23.17 | nilyaK | yea |
| 18:23.17 | AcidWeb | Jeremybell: Show your TOC file |
| 18:23.57 | Amarande | Yeah, it gets down to 45,121 XP after nerfs |
| 18:24.26 | Jeremybell | http://pastebin.com/ngB6WNjM |
| 18:24.46 | Amarande | This is why it's regular Baal that's used, because the amount of time it takes to reach the Ubers outweighs the fact that they give more XP (reg Baal is 22,227 XP) |
| 18:25.12 | AcidWeb | Jeremybell: And in what line you getting that error? |
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| 18:25.40 | nilyaK | Unless you can get unlimited (see:duped) organs and are guarenteed not to die, you're prob better off doing team baal runs with shrine/ondal's/anni/diablo/baal/nihlatak waves 4/5 and set D at 2-3min/game for about 2m/hr |
| 18:25.53 | Jeremybell | in the pastebin at line 152, but if I disable that function I get it with every other variable I use in that table |
| 18:26.24 | Amarande | And here's the real kicker: As far as I know, apart from one skill point and five stat points |
| 18:26.33 | Amarande | there is absolutely zero benefit to hitting level 99 vs. 98 |
| 18:26.49 | nilyaK | depends, to hit formula will be better for you if you're melee |
| 18:26.52 | mckenziemc | nerd points amarande |
| 18:26.58 | nilyaK | esp BvB or something |
| 18:27.14 | Amarande | yeah, but at that level, the only thing you really worry about the to-hit formula on much is Ubers, and it won't help much there (there's a reason smite is used) |
| 18:27.29 | Amarande | might help a little perhaps with jab/zeal/kick uberers |
| 18:27.32 | nilyaK | PvP it's worried about |
| 18:28.01 | Torhal|work | AcidWeb: Notice they don't show commit notes on an AddOn page anymore? |
| 18:28.08 | Amarande | ah, I didn't do much PvP |
| 18:28.15 | Primer | People still play Diablo? |
| 18:28.21 | Amarande | usually consisting of "stop beating up on my low level or I will get my Hammerdin" |
| 18:28.29 | nilyaK | but yea idk if you can get items with that high level req, I know they capped them at 99, but I think 96 was the highest I got a craft |
| 18:29.02 | Amarande | I know for crafting itself, odd levels do not benefit, because the ilvl of a craft is always floor(clvl/2) + floor(crafting fodder ilvl/2) |
| 18:29.10 | Amarande | therefore, 99 gives the same crafts as 98 |
| 18:29.12 | AcidWeb | Torhal|work: haha |
| 18:29.53 | AcidWeb | Jeremybell: First of all you use prof_db and Prof_db |
| 18:29.57 | Amarande | I'm thinking if there is anything that could require exactly 99 via crafting |
| 18:29.58 | Stanzilla | hey Amarande |
| 18:30.03 | Stanzilla | wanna dance with me? |
| 18:30.09 | Amarande | It would have to be something that requires exactly 77 if not on a crafted item, since crafted items get a +22 penalty |
| 18:30.12 | AcidWeb | Jeremybell: variable names are case sensitive in lua |
| 18:30.15 | Amarande | but I can't think of any affixes with exactly that level requirement |
| 18:30.28 | Amarande | I do know you can make some crafted items in D2 that literally can *never* be equipped |
| 18:30.40 | Torhal|work | Stanzilla: He can't dance - he's inebriated by the exuberance of his own verbosity. |
| 18:31.01 | Jeremybell | Acidweb: Ah ok. but in that line i get the error it is Capital P as in my table |
| 18:31.27 | Amarande | which seems to be an error. almost everywhere else in D2 that uses levels, the formula makes sure things are capped at 99, but crafted items can be made with level 100+ required |
| 18:31.53 | AcidWeb | Jeremybell: When Professionist_Loaded() is triggered? |
| 18:31.55 | Torhal|work | headdesks. |
| 18:32.12 | Jeremybell | at load, in my .xml file at <OnLoad> |
| 18:32.30 | Jeremybell | Thats everything what is in my .xml ;p |
| 18:32.51 | AcidWeb | Jeremybell: My guess: Professionist_Loaded() triggers before Prof_db is loaded. |
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| 18:33.34 | Jeremybell | Ok, so the addon variable loaded function I must put into that Professionist_Loaded()? |
| 18:34.09 | AcidWeb | Jeremybell: Try moving that to ADDON_LOADED event and check the diffrence |
| 18:34.14 | Jeremybell | Ok, brb |
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| 18:36.26 | AcidWeb | Jeremybell: Also this addon will be completly crippled in next few days. |
| 18:36.33 | AcidWeb | Jeremybell: As it use old talent api. |
| 18:37.08 | Jeremybell | Yes I am aware of that. Trying to get the variables working first and then I will update it to new API, but nothing worked because variables were broken ;p |
| 18:37.55 | bluworkcow | http://toucharcade.com/2012/08/20/plants-vs-zombies-sequel-announced/ <------------- not sure if want. |
| 18:38.22 | Jeremybell | Mate, you are awesome. They are working!! Many thanks! |
| 18:38.27 | AcidWeb | You welcome. |
| 18:38.51 | Lopeppeppy | How not want, bluworkcow? |
| 18:39.02 | Jeremybell | btw, did you /w with me in red or did everyone see it? |
| 18:39.47 | AcidWeb | Everyone seen it. |
| 18:40.01 | Jeremybell | And why is it red then? |
| 18:40.15 | AcidWeb | Jeremybell: This is red? |
| 18:40.34 | Jeremybell | Thats red |
| 18:40.40 | Jeremybell | and that Everyone seen it is black |
| 18:40.43 | kd3 | it's highlighted because your nick is in it |
| 18:40.47 | AcidWeb | ^ |
| 18:40.58 | kd3 | most clients do something similar |
| 18:41.08 | Lopeppeppy | Colors are particular to your chat program, Jeremybell. Everything in blue in mine. *shrug* |
| 18:41.20 | bluworkcow | <------- |
| 18:41.22 | bluworkcow | O_O |
| 18:41.27 | bluworkcow | i'm peppys ! |
| 18:41.32 | bluworkcow | yay \o/ |
| 18:41.36 | Kalroth | gasp |
| 18:41.42 | AcidWeb | bluworkcow: All irc clients have hardcoded pink color for you. |
| 18:41.44 | Jeremybell | so if I say Acidweb, is this red for you? |
| 18:41.53 | AcidWeb | Orange ;p |
| 18:42.08 | Jeremybell | lol ok |
| 18:42.09 | bluworkcow | @acidweb neato. I just need to put my tuu tuu on |
| 18:42.11 | Jeremybell | I understand |
| 18:42.33 | Lopeppeppy | You're all mine, bluworkcow. Every whisker. |
| 18:42.40 | kd3 | gasps |
| 18:43.01 | Lopeppeppy | I know. I usually hate whiskers. But his are far away not to matter. |
| 18:43.58 | bluworkcow | sadly work tiems is over so i goes homes nows |
| 18:45.58 | AcidWeb | Jeremybell: Remember that code execute with diffrent speed on different computer. Some code might work properly for you but it will fail on slower computers. |
| 18:46.15 | AcidWeb | Jeremybell: Belive me - been there ;p |
| 18:46.23 | Jeremybell | Acidweb: Ow, and how can I see that ;p |
| 18:46.59 | Jeremybell | Acidweb: and maybe a better question, how can I solve it ;p |
| 18:47.59 | AcidWeb | Get a crystal ball for divination. |
| 18:48.18 | AcidWeb | Or collect tears of users that reported error. |
| 18:51.15 | Vladinator | Jeremybell: on pure or statements you don't need () |
| 18:51.38 | Ackis | Stanzilla: http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/25216658.jpg |
| 18:51.38 | Vladinator | only need () when mixing and/or |
| 18:51.56 | Adys | uhh. i cant start d3, it keeps telling me a new patch is available but the launcher says "NO THERE AINT" |
| 18:52.06 | Cairenn|afk | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:52.08 | Unkle | So what I'm hearing here is Lopeppeppy doesn't much like my beard. |
| 18:52.13 | Adys | nicks Cairenn's nick |
| 18:52.19 | Vladinator | ~whois Cairenn |
| 18:52.19 | purl | hmm... cairenn is one of the administrators of WoWInterface, also EQI, EQ2I, LotROI and VGI |
| 18:52.21 | Cairenn | *giggle* |
| 18:52.31 | Vladinator | ~whois Vladinator |
| 18:52.32 | purl | /me thinks Vladinator is quite handsome. |
| 18:52.35 | Vladinator | lol |
| 18:52.44 | Adys | anyone had the same issue with d3? |
| 18:53.00 | Jeremybell | Vladinator ah ok, and Acidweb even though my variables are correctly loaded, he still does FriendsMicroButton:Hide(); eventhough the variable is 0. WTF |
| 18:53.49 | Vladinator | let me check |
| 18:54.09 | Jeremybell | and SBHCheckbox:SetChecked(Prof_db["Variables"]["SBH"]); where the variable is 0, he still checks it |
| 18:54.28 | Jeremybell | I am really way to tired and angry to do this ;p |
| 18:54.33 | Vladinator | note that 1 and 0 are not booleans in lua |
| 18:54.47 | Vladinator | !lua b = 0 if b then print("true") end |
| 18:54.47 | batbot | Vladinator: true |
| 18:54.59 | Vladinator | either use true/false or 1/nil |
| 18:55.05 | Vladinator | !lua b = 1 if b then print("true") end |
| 18:55.05 | batbot | Vladinator: true |
| 18:55.08 | Vladinator | !lua b = nil if b then print("true") end |
| 18:55.18 | Jeremybell | Ah |
| 18:55.30 | Vladinator | then you just have to do the if is.var.set then |
| 18:55.33 | Jeremybell | So lets change my 1 and 0 to true and false |
| 18:55.34 | Vladinator | don't have to compare |
| 18:55.39 | Vladinator | for example |
| 18:55.44 | Vladinator | then you don't need "X == true" |
| 18:55.48 | Vladinator | only if X then |
| 18:55.56 | Jeremybell | um sorry, what you mean with if is.var.set |
| 18:56.02 | Vladinator | just an example |
| 18:56.13 | Vladinator | if Prof_db.Variables.SBH then |
| 18:56.16 | Jeremybell | so I can do if RandomVariable then |
| 18:56.17 | Vladinator | if you want to be specific |
| 18:56.30 | Jeremybell | whereas it is true, he continues, if it is false, he stops |
| 18:56.50 | Jeremybell | Right? |
| 18:57.37 | Vladinator | yes |
| 18:58.25 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: http://pastebin.ca/2196874 |
| 18:58.29 | jnwhiteh | does that look about right to you? |
| 18:59.25 | Vladinator | jnwhiteh: yes |
| 18:59.32 | foxlit | jnwhiteh: PetBattleUnitFrameDropDown_ReportUnit? |
| 19:00.11 | jnwhiteh | hrm.. wonder why that's not showing up in the framexml dump |
| 19:00.21 | jnwhiteh | i guess i'll have to export myself instead of relying on github |
| 19:00.30 | jnwhiteh | no way to do that from a shell script without mpqtools, right? |
| 19:00.58 | Vladinator | why not just dump the xmls and read them instead of trough the mpqs? |
| 19:01.04 | foxlit | Don't know, haven't tried. |
| 19:01.05 | Jeremybell | Changed everything, but evertime I /reload my savedvariables are restored to the very original table with trololol for example, eventhough I deleted my whole table. Do I have to fully start WoW again? |
| 19:01.17 | Vladinator | no |
| 19:01.28 | Vladinator | if you /run Variable = nil then /reload it's unset |
| 19:01.32 | jnwhiteh | Vladinator: I need it automated |
| 19:02.10 | foxlit | Personally, I use the console; mpqs are weird. |
| 19:02.25 | Vladinator | same |
| 19:02.37 | Vladinator | wish we had export dbc :P |
| 19:02.41 | Vladinator | or export all |
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| 19:02.45 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: btu tha tinvolves launching game, no? |
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| 19:02.57 | foxlit | yes. |
| 19:03.04 | Jeremybell | My defaults are not loaded now. OMG I think I have to stop for today |
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| 19:03.32 | foxlit | but you have to do that anyway to run your addon? |
| 19:03.44 | Vladinator | if it helps |
| 19:04.04 | Vladinator | if you have your defaults as "local defaults = {<data>}" |
| 19:04.10 | Jeremybell | nvm, they are now loaded. WTF |
| 19:04.31 | Vladinator | thing is the variable Prof_db is loaded when the addon loads |
| 19:04.40 | Vladinator | local defaults = {...} |
| 19:04.40 | Vladinator | Prof_db = {} |
| 19:04.44 | Semlar | jnwhiteh did you look at http://www.wowpedia.org/User:Mikk/Scripts |
| 19:04.50 | Vladinator | Prof_db = defaults * I meant |
| 19:05.00 | Vladinator | then you can be asured it will always be proper |
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| 19:05.57 | Vladinator | also notice your toc code on the pastey has commented the SavedVariable |
| 19:06.07 | Vladinator | you need to restart the game each time you change the toc file |
| 19:06.18 | Jeremybell | So in my .lua I have to write Prof_db = {} in the beginning before everything? |
| 19:06.23 | jnwhiteh | Vladinator: that doesn't do any of the actual difficult things |
| 19:06.34 | Vladinator | difficult? :( |
| 19:06.43 | jnwhiteh | yes, dont worry about it =) |
| 19:07.20 | Vladinator | http://pastebin.com/iwLA3t8G |
| 19:07.24 | Vladinator | is what I meant |
| 19:07.51 | Vladinator | you can always look up the default values if you like, and it's also always properly loaded, the proper table structure |
| 19:08.10 | Jeremybell | Yes, but then everytime you load the addon it resets to default options right? |
| 19:08.37 | Vladinator | no because the lua file is read top to bottom, so it first will set Prof_db to defaults, but when savedvariables load the Prof_db is replaced |
| 19:08.48 | Vladinator | so it will contain what was stored on the drive from last session |
| 19:09.20 | Vladinator | but you gotta wait for addon loaded to fire until you can be sure Prof_db will be the users settings and not the defaults :p |
| 19:09.54 | Vladinator | if you do it like this you don't need to set Prof_db as a table and such, like I see in your addon loaded event, if Prof_db == nil and so forth, that part is obscolete |
| 19:10.37 | Jeremybell | Ok. And I currently have that no matter what my SBH variable is, the friend button is always hidden and the checkbox is checked. Do you know how this is possible? |
| 19:11.40 | Vladinator | are you sure the addon loaded fires before you try to do the main stuff with the addon like hiding stuff and such? |
| 19:12.10 | Jeremybell | I am not sure :@ |
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| 19:12.38 | Vladinator | what does your xml contain? |
| 19:12.41 | Vladinator | any frames? |
| 19:12.48 | Jeremybell | yes, let me pastebin it |
| 19:14.35 | Jeremybell | http://pastebin.com/SPgNyBQB |
| 19:15.45 | Ackis | I look in the kitchen and my stupid assed cat was in the freezer... just chillin |
| 19:15.59 | Jeremybell | lol |
| 19:16.03 | mckenziemc | o.O |
| 19:16.32 | Vladinator | Jeremybell: you can stop your .xml file it's just there and it works but, let me show you :P |
| 19:17.13 | Jeremybell | This is my very first addon, but not my first time programming and didnt expect to have soo much trouble with those annoying variables |
| 19:17.20 | Vladinator | :3 |
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| 19:26.17 | Jeremybell | Vladinator you coding now? Since I gtg soon |
| 19:26.20 | Vladinator | yes :3 |
| 19:26.21 | Vladinator | oh :( |
| 19:27.19 | Jeremybell | Soon is Blizzard soon though ;p |
| 19:27.25 | Vladinator | good |
| 19:27.45 | Adys | Goodbye EU-1204-1370-7281. You've served me well |
| 19:28.35 | Vladinator | lol |
| 19:30.56 | Stanzilla | Ackis: how did it get in there? |
| 19:34.06 | Fisker | why Adys |
| 19:34.08 | Fisker | WHYYYYYY |
| 19:34.13 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, cats are pretty cool, but aren't made to be that cold. Let him out. :P |
| 19:34.14 | Fisker | it was best authenticator seed eu |
| 19:34.41 | Adys | it was old thats for sure |
| 19:36.42 | Ackis | Stanzilla, Lopeppeppy: he opened the freezer door and was sitting in the freezer, I looked over and he gave me a look like "sup" |
| 19:37.10 | Stanzilla | clever |
| 19:37.52 | Lopeppeppy | He, the cat, opened the freezer door by himself? |
| 19:38.04 | Lopeppeppy | I think y'all need child locks on your stuff, stat. |
| 19:38.34 | Ackis | one day he'll get the idea to do this to me: http://i.imgur.com/7EK0T.jpg |
| 19:40.09 | Lopeppeppy | Smother you and take your cheetos? Yes, he already wants to do this. |
| 19:40.18 | Adys | holy *shit* |
| 19:40.53 | Adys | this new router firmware is amazing. im getting 14.8 megabytes / sec on download for d3 |
| 19:41.33 | Primer | bits? |
| 19:42.32 | nilyaK | aren't you excited for that 1000 hour grind so you can do esports arena? |
| 19:42.54 | Kraps | its noy 100 hours |
| 19:42.56 | Kraps | 0 |
| 19:43.00 | Kraps | t |
| 19:43.02 | Kraps | t |
| 19:43.12 | Maldivia | Adys: nice |
| 19:43.15 | nilyaK | ah I thought they said it was like 1-99 |
| 19:43.18 | Ackis | kraps t? sounds like some crappy tea |
| 19:43.25 | Adys | Primer: no, bytes |
| 19:43.36 | Adys | Primer: my connection is 120 megabits / sec |
| 19:43.48 | Primer | nice |
| 19:43.49 | Adys | im getting up to 125mb/s here |
| 19:43.56 | Ackis | Adys: what router do you use? |
| 19:43.58 | Kraps | i'll give you a cup of shut the fuck up Ackis |
| 19:44.08 | Adys | Ackis: just my isp's superhub |
| 19:44.17 | Amarande | Adys: you're from ... Greece, right, if I remember? |
| 19:44.35 | Adys | Amarande: you remember correctly, but you're also in dire need of updates |
| 19:44.40 | Adys | I moved to the UK two years ago |
| 19:44.42 | Amarande | Ah |
| 19:44.50 | Primer | My connection is 50mb/s. Best speeds I've seen is 7MB/s sustained on MoP beta |
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| 19:44.58 | Adys | greece doesn't get higher than 25 megs |
| 19:44.58 | Adys | which is still 20 more than most of the US. |
| 19:45.02 | Amarande | Heh, I was going to quip that of course you were going to get good bandwidth in a country where most of the other people in your nation probably can't afford the net anymore :) |
| 19:45.36 | Maldivia | Primer: 7 Mbyte/sec is faster than 50 mbps :P |
| 19:45.42 | Adys | Amarande: I found that internet speeds tend to be highly tied with a nation's long-term development speed |
| 19:46.01 | Amarande | (Also, to do your part to help shore up the European economic woes, apparently buying lots of olive oil might be a good idea ...) |
| 19:46.21 | Primer | Maldivia: I know. The 50mb/s is what the service is sold as, but obviously they allow more |
| 19:46.26 | Adys | Amarande: I buy my olive oil from Marseilles |
| 19:46.59 | Torhal|work | 6.25 would be an exact measurement, so not too far off. |
| 19:47.25 | Torhal|work | Not like you'll ever see that sustained many times anyway. |
| 19:47.26 | Maldivia | Primer: previous, my ISP always gave 15% extra, because it was easier than having people on the phone complaining, because they didn't take IP-overhead into account etc |
| 19:47.49 | Adys | Maldivia: VM used to do that when they were still on 100 megs here |
| 19:47.53 | Adys | a lot of people had up to 110 |
| 19:48.06 | Primer | that makes sense |
| 19:48.07 | Adys | i havent seen anyone break the 125 megs though |
| 19:48.36 | Adys | err:module:import_dll Loading library WLDAP32.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Diablo III\\Bnet\\battle.net.dll") failed (error c000007a). |
| 19:48.39 | Maldivia | Adys: well, also kind of requires that you run gbit network in your home :) |
| 19:48.39 | Ackis | this is what I just got off of a 100 mbit connection: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2130552823.png :'( |
| 19:48.39 | Adys | not this again |
| 19:50.13 | Maldivia | Adys: cable or fiber or? |
| 19:50.42 | Adys | Maldivia: cable atm |
| 19:51.43 | Maldivia | Adys: so 4 downstream channels or so? that should give around 150 Mbit/s |
| 19:52.55 | Adys | Maldivia: 5 downstream channels |
| 19:53.38 | Maldivia | hmm ok |
| 19:53.40 | Vladinator | !lua 5 > 2 > 1 |
| 19:53.41 | batbot | Vladinator: @ [string "return 5 > 2 > 1"]:1: attempt to compare number with boolean |
| 19:53.43 | Vladinator | :'( |
| 19:54.02 | Vladinator | !lua max(2, 3, 6, 1) |
| 19:54.02 | batbot | Vladinator: @ [string "return max(2, 3, 6, 1)"]:1: attempt to call global 'max' (a nil value) |
| 19:54.07 | Vladinator | nvm |
| 19:54.37 | Maldivia | !lua math.max(2, 3, 6, 1) |
| 19:54.38 | batbot | Maldivia: > 6 |
| 19:55.10 | Adys | Maldivia: is there a way to pass the locale to the d3 client through the cli? |
| 19:56.16 | cbreak | export LANG=C /Applications/Diablo/ ? :) |
| 19:56.25 | cbreak | but d3 client won't care much |
| 19:56.30 | cbreak | it'll start the launcher then terminate itself |
| 19:56.36 | cbreak | then the launcher will start an other launcher |
| 19:56.46 | cbreak | then the other launcher will start diablo again |
| 19:56.48 | Adys | cbreak: i meant the actual d3 locale |
| 19:57.11 | Kraps | whats this mean http://gyazo.com/7d982af656910ff53ca4b45e95224bd7.png?1345491724 |
| 19:57.26 | Maldivia | Adys: hmm, it accepts a -locale command, but never tried it |
| 19:59.12 | Adys | Maldivia: nvm, it was libldap missing |
| 20:00.10 | Maldivia | ofcourse |
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| 20:06.00 | Fisker | QQ |
| 20:06.13 | Fisker | looks like they're showing top gun here instead of mission impossible because of tony scott |
| 20:12.48 | Primer | I was talking to my cousin, a Highway Patrol officer here in LA, and he tells me people jump off that bridge all the time |
| 20:12.58 | Primer | Only reason this made the news is because that dude is famous |
| 20:13.18 | Primer | That bridge is just a few miles from where I live |
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| 20:16.05 | nilyaK | yea, lots of people jump off the bridge around here too, they recently put up a big net but that doesn't do much than to reduce the rate of suicide on that specific bridge and perhaps the city's liability since they own they bridge. people determined to kill themselves will. |
| 20:18.16 | Dagmar | They should use barbed-wire netting. |
| 20:18.41 | Dagmar | San Francisco bridge has all these phones on it like every 100 feet. |
| 20:19.08 | Dagmar | I mentioned to a friend that they must be really serious about car breakdowns not stopping the flow of traffic on the bridge |
| 20:19.18 | Dagmar | He responded that they all connected to a Suicide Hotline number. |
| 20:19.45 | Dagmar | For a moment there I thought people in San Francisco got *way* more upset about car problems than is healthy. |
| 20:20.51 | Shadowed | Yea I think people underestimate how often it happens |
| 20:21.12 | Shadowed | golden gate bridge was closed for an hour or two a few weeks ago from that |
| 20:21.16 | Dagmar | The phones apparently work pretty well |
| 20:22.18 | Dagmar | More people would probably jump off the Shelby Street bridge here if you couldn't accomplish the same thing by merely wading out into the Cumberland and waiting about an hour for the pollutants to soak in |
| 20:22.58 | Dagmar | It's *way* too much like the Anhk-Morpork during some parts of the year |
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| 20:24.24 | Jeremybell | valdibator here? |
| 20:24.35 | Jeremybell | valdinator |
| 20:28.57 | Vladinator | going afk for max 30 min :P |
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| 20:35.21 | jnwhiteh | ~framexml |
| 20:35.21 | purl | rumour has it, framexml is Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
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| 20:48.58 | Stanzilla | Fisker: is the news view gone from the new steam beta? |
| 20:50.34 | jnwhiteh | okay wowprogramming's api master should be updated-ish |
| 20:50.40 | jnwhiteh | as far as I can tell the list is accurate |
| 20:52.18 | Fisker | Idk stanzilla |
| 20:52.26 | jnwhiteh | anyone know where I can buy one of these: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Euro-Clover-Power-Cable/dp/B003U778CS |
| 20:52.31 | jnwhiteh | except .. not 2m long |
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| 20:58.32 | TC-Work | jnwhiteh: how long? |
| 20:58.54 | Arrowmaster | thinking about getting this new asus pa248q monitor, 24" 16:10 with standard gaumet |
| 20:59.06 | Arrowmaster | really sucks that my dell 2001fp seems dead |
| 20:59.09 | TC-Work | http://www.amazon.co.uk/Power-Parts-Cloverleaf-Adapter-Charger/dp/B003ONN64W |
| 21:01.57 | jnwhiteh | TC-Work: 1m or so |
| 21:02.14 | jnwhiteh | TC-Work: that would work, thanks :P |
| 21:02.20 | TC-Work | ^_^ |
| 21:03.51 | Adys | python-bna updated on pypi: http://pypi.python.org/pypi?:action=display&name=python-bna&version=3.1 |
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| 21:08.50 | Vladinator | why doesn't it say what OS it's written for? :( |
| 21:09.11 | TC-Work | because it's OS agnostic? |
| 21:09.20 | Vladinator | will probably be as epic as your python-mpq where the C can't compile on VB10 :D |
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| 21:09.46 | Vladinator | I am messing with Adys, he wrote a C module for Python but to compile it depends on unix and such, hehe ;3 |
| 21:09.59 | Adys | Vladinator: its pure python |
| 21:10.14 | mruser | Adys: this is excellent |
| 21:10.17 | Vladinator | I know, I've seen BMA py codes |
| 21:10.27 | Vladinator | but is the secret safely stored? |
| 21:10.35 | Vladinator | I mean, if I steal your config file, can I make my auth? |
| 21:10.43 | Adys | yeah |
| 21:10.46 | Adys | the secret is stored in plaintext in the config file |
| 21:10.46 | Vladinator | good |
| 21:10.49 | Vladinator | lol |
| 21:10.50 | Adys | but |
| 21:11.01 | Adys | you can pass your own config file with --config |
| 21:11.08 | Vladinator | good |
| 21:11.17 | Vladinator | maybe could make some encryption? |
| 21:11.20 | Adys | so you could probably do an abstraction there |
| 21:11.29 | Vladinator | yeah |
| 21:11.32 | Adys | well I wanted to integrate python-keyring at some point but its a piece of shit |
| 21:11.45 | Vladinator | could encrypt based on MAC of some hardware like motherboard |
| 21:11.46 | Adys | then I wanted to bring it up on the xdg mailing list but its already been. |
| 21:11.56 | Adys | er what |
| 21:12.03 | Adys | Im not doing my own encryption on config files |
| 21:12.06 | Vladinator | :P |
| 21:12.17 | Adys | there *are* keyrings yknow |
| 21:12.21 | Vladinator | I know |
| 21:12.49 | Vladinator | but hackers usually target those keyrings :( sadly |
| 21:12.51 | Vladinator | but yeah |
| 21:13.03 | Vladinator | why would I want to use python3 btw? |
| 21:13.05 | Vladinator | I use 2.7 atm |
| 21:13.39 | mruser | Adys: is that your project? |
| 21:13.43 | Adys | mruser: yes |
| 21:14.01 | mruser | Adys: link in source seems to have been taken down: http://bnetauth.freeportal.us/ |
| 21:14.11 | Adys | yeah Im aware |
| 21:14.16 | Vladinator | :( |
| 21:14.17 | Adys | I dont know what to replace it with tho |
| 21:14.27 | Adys | Vladinator: Ive done my best effort to keep the project python 2&3 compatible |
| 21:14.51 | Vladinator | I am just curious if 3 is worth changing to :P |
| 21:15.05 | Adys | it really depends on your situation |
| 21:15.07 | Vladinator | btw need a place to store bnetauth? since freeportal too kit down and all :( |
| 21:15.08 | Adys | on windows probably not |
| 21:15.09 | Torhal|work | Vladinator: Nost libs still use 2.x |
| 21:15.14 | Torhal|work | Most* |
| 21:15.21 | Vladinator | yeah that's why I use 2.7 atm |
| 21:15.37 | Adys | Torhal|work: ive had a wonderful time on arch linux. it ships python 3 by default and a *lot* of its libs have been ported |
| 21:15.49 | Torhal|work | Oh, nice |
| 21:15.52 | mckenziemc | backports Torhal|work |
| 21:16.01 | Adys | actually i think the only crap keeping me on 2.7 is django now |
| 21:16.05 | Adys | and thats seen some porting success |
| 21:16.06 | Torhal|work | forwards mckenziemc's ports to Fisker. |
| 21:18.03 | Vladinator | Adys when you reverse engineers the auth, did you use the java sources or? |
| 21:18.29 | Adys | Vladinator: the code is based on the motorola razr authenticator jar |
| 21:18.53 | Vladinator | hmm, I see |
| 21:19.21 | Amarande | oh, good grief. |
| 21:19.25 | Amarande | feels like a noob presently |
| 21:19.56 | kagaro | whats the dev guild on lost islands alliance side? |
| 21:31.46 | Adys | http://paste2.org/p/2133678 arch linux pkgbuild for python-bna |
| 21:31.48 | Adys | \om |
| 21:33.33 | Fisker | pff ubantoo |
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| 21:36.18 | Adys | https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=62166 |
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| 21:37.00 | Vladinator | uuuh, this video about spider bites is interesting http://youtu.be/sqgOeVhpW94 :D Cairenn it's for you lol |
| 21:46.01 | Semlar | there are only two spiders in north america that have the potential to kill you |
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| 21:46.26 | mckenziemc | and both are dangling right behind you |
| 21:46.44 | foxlit | gr, binary search. |
| 21:46.45 | Semlar | the black widow just kind of hangs out on its web |
| 21:46.58 | Fisker | it's getting hot in here foxlit |
| 21:47.09 | foxlit | get out of the oven, Fisker. |
| 21:47.15 | Fisker | :( |
| 21:47.18 | Semlar | the brown recluse wanders around but tends to avoid people unless you accidently pick it up in your clothes or something |
| 21:47.22 | mckenziemc | Fisker: take off your clothes |
| 21:47.23 | Fisker | i'm not in the oven foxlit |
| 21:47.27 | Fisker | they're off mckenziemc |
| 21:47.32 | mckenziemc | TMI |
| 21:47.49 | Fisker | nope |
| 21:59.47 | Stanzilla | foxlit: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22349357/opie.png |
| 22:00.17 | foxlit | Stanzilla: that is hilarious. |
| 22:00.53 | foxlit | but also sad. But it's that time of the night when everything is hilarious. |
| 22:01.05 | foxlit | It's trying to spawn a ring out of the table that stores the names of your deleted rings. I wonder why. |
| 22:03.14 | foxlit | on a sidenote, virtually no one actually reports bugs through the ticket tracker :( |
| 22:03.29 | Stanzilla | on curse or wowi? |
| 22:03.34 | foxlit | curse |
| 22:04.07 | foxlit | wowi's stuff is oddly coupled to other stuff that I do not necessarily want. |
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| 22:16.45 | foxlit | whee, it wasn't binary search. |
| 22:17.59 | foxlit | I managed to completely, utterly, screw up input validation, ended up accepting precisely the sort of input data that I did not want :( |
| 22:19.27 | Neffi | hates dealing with user input. Whether it's overly smart or overly dumb, users always tend to mess something up. |
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| 22:20.18 | foxlit | It's me in this case. I wanted to validate that graph edges are sorted in lexicographic order, but ended up accepting precisely the opposite output from the script I then wrote to generate the graph inputs in the lexicographic order. |
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| 22:20.51 | Neffi | lol |
| 22:21.01 | Neffi | In those cases it's easy to say, "wtf happened?" |
| 22:23.12 | foxlit | Stanzilla: sorry, it turns out I broke that five months ago. |
| 22:23.46 | Stanzilla | foxlit: well done man |
| 22:23.57 | Stanzilla | I was about to complain that you fucked up my settings with a recent update, too |
| 22:24.06 | foxlit | did I now? |
| 22:24.06 | Stanzilla | like changing keybinds |
| 22:24.45 | Stanzilla | yeah I had some spells on mousebutton 4 and 5 etc and after the update, some rings took that over |
| 22:25.44 | foxlit | That seems likely. Playing nicely with other keybindings is a headache. |
| 22:27.33 | Stanzilla | was just confusing and annoying to unbind all the rings |
| 22:27.34 | Neffi | Make all user keybindings blank by default. Keybindings are too personal a thing for an addon to make a decision for you. |
| 22:28.04 | foxlit | Stanzilla: you can rebind global defaults to something obscure instead. |
| 22:28.17 | Stanzilla | I think I did that |
| 22:28.27 | Stanzilla | after I did it on all my toons |
| 22:28.28 | Stanzilla | or so |
| 22:28.29 | foxlit | Reloading should've worked after that. |
| 22:28.54 | Stanzilla | but as Neffi said, changing keybinds is bad :< |
| 22:29.04 | Neffi | Anyone know of an active UI community? Most UI screenshot threads are totally dead. I need some inspiration. |
| 22:29.28 | mckenziemc | #wowuidev! |
| 22:29.34 | foxlit | generally, it's not supposed to actually steal anything that's in use. However, headaches. |
| 22:29.55 | Neffi | mckenziemc: Start posting UI screenshots then =) |
| 22:31.01 | Neffi | fox, I would just make it blatantly obvious in the config that you're *able* to change the keybindings. Maybe even make a little config/help dialog appear on first install. But make the actual binds blank by default. This will encourage people to use them, without the frustration of trying hard not to verride what's there. |
| 22:31.12 | Stanzilla | Neffi: heal or dps? |
| 22:31.29 | Neffi | Stanzilla: Either. I just need some inspiration. PvP though. |
| 22:32.03 | Stanzilla | meh, mine is not very pvp oriented https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22349357/WoWScrnShot_072312_104609.jpg |
| 22:32.10 | Neffi | I'm working with this right now, but it needs something more http://tinyurl.com/cex6g7z |
| 22:32.10 | foxlit | Neffi: screw addons that you have to configure to use. |
| 22:32.12 | jnwhiteh | TC-Work: ah, that's UK |
| 22:32.14 | jnwhiteh | I needed EU |
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| 22:32.19 | jnwhiteh | that's why it didn't work :P |
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| 22:32.34 | durcyn | how the fuck do you see anything behind that gigantic mess in the middle of your screen, Stanzilla |
| 22:32.36 | foxlit | It's like "oh hey, you just installed my stuff! Now enjoy the 15 minutes of dealing with boring stuff" :) |
| 22:33.01 | Stanzilla | durcyn: :D |
| 22:33.02 | Neffi | Nice color scheme. I love the slate blue. |
| 22:33.37 | Neffi | Stanzilla: The right border on your combat log is 1 px less. |
| 22:33.43 | Stanzilla | I know :< |
| 22:33.57 | TC-Work | jnwhiteh: http://www.trait-tech.com/product/T-PCA-1112__euro-power-cord-cable-c5-cloverleaf-to-3-pin-euro-mains-power-cord-cable-black-1-2m-4ft.html although thats not amazon |
| 22:33.57 | Neffi | Same thing with top on your buttons. |
| 22:33.57 | Neffi | kgPanels? |
| 22:34.07 | jnwhiteh | aye, I was hoping for google-checkout or amazon =/ |
| 22:34.19 | TC-Work | that does paypal |
| 22:34.24 | Stanzilla | Neffi: yeah, already fixed that though |
| 22:34.24 | jnwhiteh | yeah thanks |
| 22:34.26 | jnwhiteh | i may look at it =) |
| 22:34.27 | jnwhiteh | <3 |
| 22:35.01 | Neffi | Aside from the xboxheug raid frames blocking your view, I like it |
| 22:35.27 | Neffi | But I'm working in a totally different realm. |
| 22:35.47 | foxlit | Neffi: a realm of impossibly small icons :) |
| 22:35.54 | Stanzilla | I kinda need them that huge as a healer |
| 22:35.57 | Neffi | Trying to keep things center-focused for PvP, and take away anything not necessary |
| 22:36.18 | Neffi | lol fox. works for me. |
| 22:36.38 | mckenziemc | i want to take a nap |
| 22:36.42 | mckenziemc | but i'm not allowed to :( |
| 22:37.24 | foxlit | Neffi: but it butchers awesome art! :P |
| 22:37.52 | Neffi | If I can see what it is, it's perfect. Too big would just be a distraction. |
| 22:38.07 | Neffi | Besides, target buffs/debuffs are filtered to mine only. So seeing the state is easy enough. |
| 22:38.51 | foxlit | Whatever floats your boat, I guess. I'll stay the heck away from that :) |
| 22:38.59 | Neffi | lol thanks |
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| 22:41.34 | Stanzilla | foxlit: you know that, what's the full path for spell icons again? I need spell_priest_shadoworbs |
| 22:41.42 | foxlit | Interface/Icons/ |
| 22:41.56 | Stanzilla | thanks |
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| 22:48.50 | foxlit | Stanzilla: out of interest, which default ring did you delete? |
| 22:49.07 | Stanzilla | foxlit: a lot |
| 22:50.23 | Stanzilla | all mage ones for example |
| 22:51.45 | foxlit | I presume you're putting those skills on some action bar instead? |
| 22:52.37 | Stanzilla | I have a custom ring for stuff + mage auras and I put portals and food on my bar |
| 22:54.28 | foxlit | that's interesting to me; putting food and portals on bars seems odd (you don't really use them that often?) |
| 22:55.24 | Stanzilla | they are just there to fill the empty space |
| 22:55.31 | foxlit | Mages are tricky in general, since they have like two action bars worth of things you might actually want to press during combat. |
| 22:55.34 | Stanzilla | not much to put in the bar as a mage :o |
| 22:55.42 | foxlit | I, on the other hand, prefer to have like 6 buttons. |
| 22:55.55 | mckenziemc | o.O |
| 22:56.14 | Stanzilla | as you can see on the screenshot I linked before, I always have those 2x9 bars |
| 22:56.18 | Stanzilla | and somehow need to fill it |
| 22:56.31 | Stanzilla | but I want to change that in the future |
| 22:56.37 | Jamash | sup folks |
| 22:56.59 | foxlit | you should clearly replace it with a 1x6 bar :) |
| 22:56.59 | Jamash | hunters have more than two action bars full of stuff :-/ |
| 22:57.17 | xyphoid | yeah i'm mostly playing a hunter now and i was pretty surprised by how much Stuff they have |
| 22:57.23 | Stanzilla | I tried! https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22349357/WoWScrnShot_042012_212702.jpg |
| 22:57.29 | foxlit | Jamash: but realistically, survival is like Explosive shot, serpent shot, cobra shot. |
| 22:57.34 | Stanzilla | that just didn't work out very well for other classes |
| 22:57.46 | Jamash | not really, no |
| 22:58.07 | Jamash | I mean, unless you're just afkdpsing in LFR or something |
| 22:58.17 | foxlit | black arrow, arcane shot. |
| 22:58.28 | Vladinator | :D |
| 22:58.35 | Vladinator | this was funky |
| 22:58.50 | Jamash | I don't raid so I actually use CC and utility abilities in 5mans and bgs |
| 22:59.03 | foxlit | Haven't actually played a hunter in a raid group; just levelled one during 4.2. |
| 22:59.14 | Jamash | oh well for just questing yeah |
| 22:59.19 | Stanzilla | it's like 5 to 6 buttons for raid pve |
| 22:59.21 | foxlit | instances too. |
| 22:59.22 | Stanzilla | nothing more |
| 22:59.49 | foxlit | Stanzilla: remove curse, evocation, mana gem, time warp are extraneous and would better fit on as UF bindings and/or OPie ring :P |
| 23:00.07 | Stanzilla | foxlit: yeah as I said, was just stuff to fill it up |
| 23:00.13 | Stanzilla | I don't really need them :D |
| 23:00.15 | Jamash | I'm talking about "in order to try to provide maximum dps and utility" bindings, not "roflol huntard" bindings |
| 23:00.26 | *** join/#wowuidev Ressy (~Ressy@unaffiliated/ressy) |
| 23:00.29 | Stanzilla | Jamash: yeah so what was I missing? |
| 23:00.38 | Stanzilla | ok aspects |
| 23:00.42 | Stanzilla | I have an opie ring for that |
| 23:00.44 | Stanzilla | what else? |
| 23:00.44 | foxlit | Jamash: you may well be, but the point is that you have like 6 buttons that you'll press with any amount of frequency |
| 23:00.54 | mckenziemc | uses wyvern shot on Stanzilla. |
| 23:01.00 | foxlit | everything else can be shuffled off to opie rings. |
| 23:01.01 | Jamash | tranq, traps, trap launcher, mark, wyvern |
| 23:01.06 | Jamash | don't use opie |
| 23:01.10 | xyphoid | i'm mostly using my hunter to try soloing kael, i need lots of buttons heh |
| 23:01.12 | Jamash | *I don't use opie |
| 23:01.21 | Stanzilla | tranq nope, wyvern nope |
| 23:01.24 | Stanzilla | not this content :D |
| 23:01.41 | Vladinator | http://gobarbra.com/hit/new-4ab4c762a345629d287689c5f00530b4 |
| 23:01.43 | Jamash | no dispelling boss self-buffs? |
| 23:01.47 | Stanzilla | the only useful trap is explosive and I have that macros to trap launcher :D |
| 23:01.48 | foxlit | all of those are in an opie ring for me |
| 23:01.49 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 23:01.52 | Vladinator | I like how he pronounces OP :P |
| 23:01.58 | foxlit | I kind of put tranq next to the taunt shot. |
| 23:02.06 | Stanzilla | same |
| 23:02.13 | Jamash | disengage, deterrence |
| 23:02.20 | Jamash | wing clip |
| 23:02.20 | Stanzilla | not on bar for me |
| 23:02.24 | Jamash | bad^ |
| 23:02.25 | Stanzilla | but keybound |
| 23:02.28 | Jamash | oh |
| 23:02.29 | Stanzilla | ^not bad |
| 23:02.43 | Jamash | for me keybound = on bar |
| 23:02.43 | foxlit | Made for some occasional hilarity while in ZA. |
| 23:02.52 | Stanzilla | disengange is like shift q |
| 23:02.55 | mckenziemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:02.59 | Stanzilla | and detershit is shift e |
| 23:03.01 | foxlit | disengage is mouse 5 down right. |
| 23:03.04 | xyphoid | has anyone managed to evade razorgore via jumping to the platform recently btw |
| 23:03.05 | Jamash | I use `12345rfzxcv |
| 23:03.10 | Jamash | and shift+above |
| 23:03.14 | foxlit | deterance is mouse 5 up right... ish? |
| 23:03.32 | Vladinator | just solo razorgore, or wait for mop when its even easier |
| 23:03.35 | Jamash | seems to me like trying to use clutch defensive abilities off a ring is a recipe for disaster |
| 23:03.49 | Stanzilla | yeah that is bad |
| 23:03.53 | Jamash | unless you just don't care whether you live or die :P |
| 23:04.06 | Jamash | feign death ofc |
| 23:04.18 | Stanzilla | G! |
| 23:04.21 | foxlit | Hasn't gotten me killed yet. |
| 23:04.49 | foxlit | Then again, I suspect most people interact with OPie differently. Curse you, left click? |
| 23:04.52 | Jamash | what do you even do on your hunter |
| 23:05.04 | foxlit | 4.2 heroics, back when they were new. |
| 23:05.08 | Stanzilla | my hunter is like my shittiest toon |
| 23:05.09 | Jamash | ah |
| 23:05.14 | Stanzilla | he's at 5/8 heroic though |
| 23:05.19 | Jamash | I never did either of the troll heroics >.> |
| 23:05.37 | xyphoid | Vladinator: that's what i'm trying to do, is there a way that doesn't involve evading it i haven't seen? |
| 23:06.01 | Stanzilla | and I totally disengaged off of spine once! |
| 23:06.20 | Jamash | my bindings are pretty much the same as they were for ICC10 which actually involved doing things |
| 23:06.34 | Vladinator | I was messing with you, no sorry it needs someone to MC and one to kill kind of, the bug ways with evading and such, not my area of expertise. To be honest evading mobs to bug encounters and such is more bannable so I keep away :P |
| 23:07.33 | foxlit | oh you, ICC10 and doing things :P |
| 23:09.29 | foxlit | I've got the most unhelpful error: [string "*OnLoad"]:1:bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil) |
| 23:09.51 | foxlit | And no meaningful backtrace. |
| 23:09.59 | foxlit | Somewhere, there's an OnLoad handler in XML that tries to iterate over something. Good luck finding it :( |
| 23:10.17 | Neffi | foxlit: What is this ring addon? |
| 23:10.18 | Vladinator | btw, OnLoad on a frame != addon has loaded |
| 23:10.19 | Vladinator | :3 |
| 23:10.27 | Neffi | link? |
| 23:10.35 | Stanzilla | ~opie |
| 23:10.35 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, opie is the Open Palmtop Integrated Environment. More info at http://opie.handhelds.org/ or in the #opie channel. Installation instructions at http://opie.handhelds.org/wiki/index.php?OpieInstallation or respect, API http://handhelds.org/~zecke/apidocs/, or a nose-hair trimming device invented by Steve Ballmer in his high-school days |
| 23:10.41 | Stanzilla | dafuq |
| 23:10.46 | Neffi | Opie is still active? Cool |
| 23:10.48 | foxlit | loaded acronym? |
| 23:10.58 | Jamash | ~failzilla |
| 23:11.00 | Torhal | !addon opie |
| 23:11.06 | Torhal | Well shit |
| 23:11.08 | Stanzilla | go laugh at Torhal |
| 23:11.10 | lua_bot | OPie (v. Indigo 4) last updated Fri Dec 9 21:54 (http://is.gd/Xdz2FP) |
| 23:11.10 | Stanzilla | that noob |
| 23:11.16 | Torhal | kicks Stanzilla in the teeth. |
| 23:11.18 | Neffi | Does it support ButtonFacade? |
| 23:11.21 | Torhal | See? Worked noobery. |
| 23:11.26 | Stanzilla | Torhal: ready to sauna? |
| 23:11.32 | foxlit | Yes, it supports ScourgeOfAllThingsButtonRelatedFacade. |
| 23:11.39 | Ressy | I used to use opie... |
| 23:11.43 | foxlit | or Masque. Whatever :P |
| 23:11.44 | Neffi | Meh, BF does its job |
| 23:11.47 | Jamash | then you took a ring to the knee? |
| 23:11.51 | Torhal | Ressy: Then you took a ring to the knee? |
| 23:11.55 | Jamash | BAM |
| 23:11.59 | Torhal | Bah |
| 23:12.11 | foxlit | it does a job, but it's a horrible thing to write code around. |
| 23:12.13 | Ressy | then realized I was accidentally triggering shit |
| 23:12.16 | Stanzilla | Torhal: see you're getting old |
| 23:12.21 | Neffi | Seems to me button skins would be a nice thing for SharedMedia to handle |
| 23:12.25 | Jamash | I'll use opie when it gets proper nested ring support |
| 23:12.27 | Torhal | Stanzilla: Old enough to know how to skin you. |
| 23:12.29 | Neffi | Not like it involves anything overly complex |
| 23:12.35 | Stanzilla | Torhal: nice one |
| 23:12.36 | Vladinator | Stanzilla: Torhal isn't getting old, he is getting more mature. |
| 23:12.43 | Stanzilla | Vladinator: you mean grumpy? |
| 23:12.50 | Ressy | lol |
| 23:12.52 | foxlit | Jamash: you (I) don't want proper nested ring support. |
| 23:13.00 | Torhal | kebabs Stanzilla with a rusty nail. |
| 23:13.07 | Stanzilla | nice |
| 23:13.17 | foxlit | If you got proper nested ring support, you'd nest things to such a degree that you'd spend like 5 minutes navigating menus to get to the slice you wanted. |
| 23:13.23 | Jamash | that's why I don't use opie |
| 23:13.31 | Jamash | the author is a jerk |
| 23:13.32 | Torhal | foxlit: Radial menu version of Dewdrop! |
| 23:14.03 | foxlit | Torhal: actually, that'd be hilarious. I wonder if something still uses Dewdrop for configuration? |
| 23:14.14 | Neffi | That idea hurts my head. I can imagine trying to fit the amount of nested rings most configs would require on my screen. |
| 23:14.23 | Torhal | A few "current" AddOns do, can't recall their names. |
| 23:14.56 | Jamash | I really only want one layer |
| 23:14.59 | Jamash | main and sub |
| 23:15.56 | Jamash | "LearnPreviewTalents is not a function" well poop |
| 23:16.19 | foxlit | it's just LearnTalent[s?](id1, id2, id3...) |
| 23:17.02 | Jamash | ah |
| 23:17.10 | Jamash | looks like you can't learn talents in combat anymore |
| 23:17.24 | Jamash | which simplifies my addon's logic somewhat |
| 23:17.27 | Neffi | From secure code, you can |
| 23:17.35 | Jamash | I couldn't using the default UI |
| 23:17.36 | Neffi | But insecure, I'm surprised you ever could |
| 23:17.51 | Neffi | Taint somewhere? I do it in dungeons while leveling up mid-combat. |
| 23:18.14 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (~Kaydeethr@wowwiki/Kaydeethree) |
| 23:18.18 | Jamash | I was tracking talent abilities learned, not calling the function myself |
| 23:18.22 | Neffi | (Might've changed recently though.) |
| 23:18.29 | Jamash | I'm talking about MoP |
| 23:18.35 | Neffi | Oh, yeah. My bad. |
| 23:18.50 | Jamash | 5.0.whatever tomorrow? |
| 23:18.57 | Neffi | No, aug 28th |
| 23:19.03 | Neffi | And it'll be 5.0.4 |
| 23:19.13 | Jamash | ok |
| 23:19.49 | Jamash | should upload a beta version of learning aid tonight anyway |
| 23:19.56 | Jamash | gotta stop procrastinating |
| 23:20.09 | foxlit | nonsense! |
| 23:20.29 | Jamash | I didn't say a *working* beta version |
| 23:20.33 | foxlit | points to the http://www.despair.com/proc24x30pri.html on his desk. |
| 23:21.00 | foxlit | ... and I just realized that man is not wearing pants. |
| 23:21.07 | Jamash | those are shorts |
| 23:21.24 | Jamash | I couldn't tell you why he's wearing a sweater and shorts, but there it is |
| 23:21.59 | Jamash | anyway I'm working on my addon so I can put off other more important things |
| 23:22.00 | foxlit | Jamash: out of interest, what's "proper nested rings"? |
| 23:22.08 | Jamash | I actually forget |
| 23:22.23 | foxlit | Do you want to have to point at specific icons to select an ability? |
| 23:22.23 | Jamash | All I remember is the last time I tried opie it didn't do something I wanted with subrings |
| 23:22.34 | Jamash | I really don't remember |
| 23:22.58 | Jamash | I could reinstall it and try again |
| 23:23.04 | Jamash | if I weren't so lazy |
| 23:23.12 | foxlit | I found awesome uses for the current implementation: you can rotate the correct Blessing/Seal/Armor into your main ring and use that to recast. |
| 23:23.27 | Jamash | nice |
| 23:23.42 | Amarande | good gods, a stack of elementium ore is only worth 27g? |
| 23:23.46 | Amarande | when did elementium get so cheap? |
| 23:23.55 | Stanzilla | when people stopped caring |
| 23:24.04 | Vladinator | ye |
| 23:24.10 | Torhal | Great Scott! Another wall of text is incoming! |
| 23:24.23 | Vladinator | ~whois Amarande |
| 23:24.24 | purl | ACTION wonders what the next Random Obscure Contingency of the Day will be. |
| 23:25.03 | Neffi | I doubt the demand is really there anymore since we're in the very last month of the expansion |
| 23:25.07 | Jamash | Amarande: when mists of pandaria got close enough |
| 23:25.29 | Jamash | mah keys |
| 23:25.34 | Jamash | where is my authenticator |
| 23:25.49 | Neffi | You could save it. Demand might go up after MoP, with few people farming the old stuff, and some people switching professions because of new goodies. |
| 23:25.51 | Amarande | Jamash: obsidium's still 110+g for a stack of bars |
| 23:26.02 | Primer | doesn't mean people pay that much |
| 23:26.31 | Amarande | yeah, metal and ore have had a tendency to sit lately |
| 23:26.54 | Mr_Rabies | not here |
| 23:26.56 | Vladinator | You know what item goes up in value? |
| 23:27.00 | Vladinator | Haunted Memento |
| 23:27.03 | Vladinator | :P |
| 23:27.14 | Jamash | still got mine |
| 23:27.26 | arton | :/ |
| 23:27.30 | Mr_Rabies | obsidium ore is 20-40g a stack here |
| 23:27.35 | Mr_Rabies | er bars |
| 23:27.36 | Mr_Rabies | oh |
| 23:27.53 | arton | How much are haunted mementos going for these days? |
| 23:28.06 | Vladinator | Torhal: no reply on our post :( |
| 23:28.13 | Vladinator | shame Cladhaire isn't on irc |
| 23:28.37 | xyphoid | i am loving the people dumping herbs a week early |
| 23:28.38 | Mr_Rabies | someone's buying them all up and relisting for 10g per bar right now so i can't get a good number :< |
| 23:29.30 | Jamash | so no pet battles in 5.0.4? |
| 23:29.59 | Vladinator | not sure but most likely not for learning? |
| 23:30.04 | Vladinator | not sure if it's a MoP feature |
| 23:30.07 | Vladinator | like Cata flying is |
| 23:30.09 | Jammer | Jamash: mop |
| 23:30.21 | Jamash | big mistake imo |
| 23:30.31 | Jamash | would have gotten a lot of people to start playing again before launch day |
| 23:30.50 | foxlit | Jamash: what's the point? |
| 23:31.07 | Jamash | get your pets leveled up :D |
| 23:31.20 | foxlit | new talents are sufficiently shiny to motivate some activity; and you hardly want to steal content from the expansion |
| 23:31.30 | Vladinator | oh oh oh, did they plan to add better way to skin nameplates? :D |
| 23:31.37 | Jamash | enable people who pre-purchase to access pet battles :D |
| 23:31.48 | Jamash | that would drive prepurchases too |
| 23:32.08 | foxlit | CE :/ |
| 23:32.21 | Vladinator | ~define CE |
| 23:32.21 | purl | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 23:32.25 | Vladinator | ~dict CE |
| 23:32.49 | Vladinator | oh well, an idea |
| 23:32.50 | foxlit | collector's edition, Vladinator. |
| 23:32.53 | Vladinator | who has coded nameplates? |
| 23:32.58 | Vladinator | (I got it :P) |
| 23:33.24 | Jamash | let people preorder the CE direct from blizzard and get early access to pet battles :D |
| 23:33.29 | Vladinator | do you think nameplate creation fires if you hook CreateFrame? |
| 23:35.23 | Vladinator | is afraid with all the silence. |
| 23:35.25 | Stanzilla | I think it fires your mum |
| 23:35.40 | Vladinator | ~report Stanzilla |
| 23:36.43 | Mr_Rabies | <Jamash> so no pet battles in 5.0.4? |
| 23:36.49 | Mr_Rabies | they're still working on many of the mechanics |
| 23:37.00 | Mr_Rabies | but once MoP is out, people without MoP will be able to pet battle, too |
| 23:37.15 | foxlit | A kingdom for fast-forwarding through pet battles on autopilot. |
| 23:37.27 | foxlit | In fact, that should be an addon. |
| 23:37.33 | Torhal | Vladinator: Not yet, no |
| 23:37.49 | Vladinator | :( |
| 23:38.07 | Vladinator | Torhal you knew about gobarbra.com? nice for trolling |
| 23:38.24 | Torhal | Vladinator: lol, no |
| 23:39.31 | Vladinator | Torhal http://gobarbra.com/hit/new-8a9343aa805b8f3d582a6b2b7e030864 |
| 23:40.14 | Jamash | I think I might use opie for just quest items |
| 23:40.24 | Vladinator | I hear a lot of this opie |
| 23:40.46 | Jamash | 'cause that's something you can't action bar without screwing around with macros |
| 23:41.30 | foxlit | raid marks, world markers. |
| 23:42.45 | Jamash | bah |
| 23:42.47 | Jamash | fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine |
| 23:42.56 | Jamash | I will use your super helpful and useful addon goddamn it |
| 23:42.58 | Vladinator | the chat is very incohesive |
| 23:43.11 | Jamash | incohesive? |
| 23:43.29 | Jamash | oh so it's incredibly easy to get sporeggar rep now |
| 23:43.35 | Jamash | I hadn't realized just how easy |
| 23:43.40 | Jamash | got my tiny sporebat :D |
| 23:43.48 | Semlar | tabard |
| 23:44.05 | Vladinator | is incoherent more appropriate? :P |
| 23:44.33 | arton | incocaine |
| 23:44.50 | arton | snorts. |
| 23:44.55 | Vladinator | sinep |
| 23:45.01 | Semlar | incohesive means it doesn't hold together |
| 23:45.39 | Vladinator | when a chat is incohesive it means it's discontinuous |
| 23:46.03 | Vladinator | the conversations vary by a lot in between each other conversation, that's how it seems to me :p |
| 23:46.15 | Jamash | disjointed is a good word |
| 23:46.28 | foxlit | Jamash: will you also begrudgingly like using it? |
| 23:46.30 | Vladinator | yes but incohesive came first to mind |
| 23:46.53 | Vladinator | I am not like you americans, one language and many years of time to learn so many words and terms :P |
| 23:47.03 | Vladinator | and time* |
| 23:47.26 | Jamash | foxlit: yes |
| 23:47.57 | Vladinator | my friend lost his job a week ago and now he is webcamming on msn each night -_- |
| 23:48.06 | Jamash | I will enjoy using it, but I will not enjoy enjoying using it |
| 23:48.16 | Semlar | how much does he make on camera |
| 23:48.31 | foxlit | Jamash: metaenjoyment is required by the terms of the license agreement, see paragraph 42/c. |
| 23:48.36 | Vladinator | he ought to get paid, he is very obsessed with training and looking good, so :P |
| 23:48.40 | Jamash | you're not the boss of me |
| 23:48.41 | Vladinator | he could earn money lol |
| 23:49.13 | Vladinator | here is a weird question |
| 23:49.28 | foxlit | [I suggest grabbing the beta from curseforge; it'll probably /not/ format your hard drive.] |
| 23:49.40 | Vladinator | if I invent the cure for aids and copyright it, can I just keep it and no one else can get cured because I am a bastard? |
| 23:49.57 | Semlar | IANAL but yes |
| 23:50.03 | foxlit | you can't exactly copyright inventions |
| 23:50.11 | Jamash | you mean patent, and no |
| 23:50.12 | foxlit | unless you intend to cure aids through interpretive dance? |
| 23:50.39 | Vladinator | so an invention you can copy and use even if not yours... ? |
| 23:50.43 | Jamash | there are provisions for compulsory licensing for medicine |
| 23:51.00 | Semlar | tell that to pfiser |
| 23:51.00 | Vladinator | hmm |
| 23:51.06 | Jamash | if it's considered sufficiently vital for public health |
| 23:51.43 | mckenziemc | discovers a cure for Fisker. |
| 23:52.02 | foxlit | mckenziemc: the spork xkcd is appropriate. |
| 23:52.08 | Vladinator | remember the news about the japanese who invented something related to stopping tooth decay? what happened to his invention? :P |
| 23:52.24 | Vladinator | I bet the toothpaste companies patented the shit out of it just so no one can stop buying their toothpaste :P |
| 23:52.28 | Semlar | the dentist mafia swept it under the rug |
| 23:52.40 | Vladinator | you bet they did |
| 23:54.14 | Vladinator | even google covered it up, can't find the news article :P |
| 23:55.27 | Semlar | i'm going to develop a bacteria that eats the bacteria that causes tooth decay |
| 23:55.39 | Vladinator | but tooth decay is like rust |
| 23:55.46 | kd3 | it just is |
| 23:56.07 | Semlar | only if you have iron teeth |
| 23:56.10 | *** join/#wowuidev Neffii (~Neffi@pool-173-56-100-105.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:56.22 | Vladinator | Jaws was my father. |
| 23:56.35 | Dagmar | THere's already bacteria like that. |
| 23:56.41 | Jamash | Semlar: try a virus, look up "bacteriophage" |
| 23:56.45 | Dagmar | Unfortunately, they eat flesh as well. |
| 23:56.53 | Semlar | priorities |
| 23:56.55 | foxlit | Dagmar: nanobots. |
| 23:57.01 | foxlit | Nothing could possibly go wrong. |
| 23:57.09 | Jamash | bacteriophages are better than nanobots |
| 23:57.12 | kd3 | grey goo |
| 23:57.54 | Jamash | ofc when you kill all the bacteria that cause tooth decay, the biological niche will be filled by some other bacterium that might be even worse |
| 23:57.58 | Semlar | i meant a bacteria that would just replace the caries bacteria and prevent it from moving back in |
| 23:58.03 | kd3 | s/might/will/ |
| 23:58.04 | Jamash | but what will it live on? |
| 23:58.15 | Neffi | Anyone know if it's possible to make Hexchat automatically ghost when my name is taken? |
| 23:58.23 | Semlar | it could eat food particles |
| 23:58.34 | Vladinator | so you think The Abyssal Maw will come back at some point or? :D |
| 23:58.35 | Jamash | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phage_therapy |
| 23:59.50 | Semlar | just as long as it doesn't demineralize your teeth as a side effect |
| 23:59.51 | Torhal | Vladinator: Hahaha |
