| 00:00.20 | Neffi | But secretly, small breasts are cuter, overly thin girls look sickly, and make-up is ugly. Especially blush. |
| 00:00.37 | Adys | ~neffi++ |
| 00:00.39 | Vladinator | I find natural girls more attractive than those that use makeup |
| 00:02.17 | Stanzilla | jhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cAAM4TXPdw&feature=player_embedded |
| 00:02.20 | g0urra | <Neffi> I just hope my kids don't buy into the bullshit. <- I've come up with a way that makes sure it doesn't happen |
| 00:02.20 | Stanzilla | america-- |
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| 00:02.33 | Stanzilla | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cAAM4TXPdw&feature=player_embedded |
| 00:04.16 | Vladinator | hey, you have seen what happens when someone with a throwing knife goes berserk on call of duty |
| 00:04.49 | Vladinator | couldn't ONE shot to the leg or something be enough? |
| 00:06.23 | g0urra | or a tazer |
| 00:06.53 | Mr_Rabies | shots to the leg really aren't viable |
| 00:07.08 | Mr_Rabies | if you're going to shoot, you aim for center of mass, or don't use lethal force at all |
| 00:07.32 | Stanzilla | oh hey, he's moving, let's empty our magazines on him |
| 00:07.36 | Mr_Rabies | (not to say anything that happened there was right at all) |
| 00:08.04 | Mr_Rabies | but a leg shot is potentially as dangerous to people in the area as 35-40 extraneous shots |
| 00:08.36 | Mr_Rabies | it's pretty hard to hit a leg, and that bullet may not stop once it misses said leg |
| 00:09.02 | Mr_Rabies | center of mass is larger and moves a lot less |
| 00:09.18 | Neffi | g0urra, I'd love to hear that |
| 00:09.36 | Vladinator | no mater the facts of how center of mass and such, to me it didn't look like they even tried to disarm him at all |
| 00:09.55 | Vladinator | just shot him to death because he started to walk away |
| 00:10.52 | g0urra | Neffi: don't have kids |
| 00:10.53 | g0urra | :> |
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| 00:11.15 | mckenziemc | ^ |
| 00:11.16 | Neffi | That's my plan atm |
| 00:11.20 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, don't get me wrong, i don't really see justice happening there |
| 00:11.31 | g0urra | there's only one catch though |
| 00:11.32 | Neffi | "'bout to go ham on em" awesome |
| 00:11.33 | Mr_Rabies | it had way more in common with a firing squad or gang hit than justice |
| 00:11.40 | Neffi | I love interviewees on news reports |
| 00:11.41 | Vladinator | yes |
| 00:11.58 | g0urra | it increases the change that stupid people with populate this planet |
| 00:12.22 | g0urra | chance* |
| 00:12.46 | Mr_Rabies | 40 shots makes it a lot harder to pin it on a specific person though |
| 00:12.55 | Neffi | g0urra: If stupidity is selected for, so be it. I trust that if stupidity hits a critical mass, any space exploration will die so at least we won't pollute the universe. |
| 00:13.00 | Mr_Rabies | diffuse the blame, no one's gonna get fired |
| 00:13.08 | Mr_Rabies | (or thrown in jail) |
| 00:13.51 | g0urra | tbh I'd rather have there be a new plague |
| 00:13.54 | g0urra | that kills stupid people |
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| 00:14.39 | Neffi | I think less of the problem is stupid people, than stupidity itself |
| 00:14.40 | Vladinator | I remember when I was small and police, firemen, e.g. did what was morally right and did their best to not have to kill. looking at a group of officers kill a man with a knife alone on a parking lot, not really doing much to try and really stop him, taking the easy way out, shamefull. |
| 00:14.46 | Neffi | Humans have this immense capacity for hivemind |
| 00:14.58 | Neffi | Stupidity spreads too readily, even among otherwise intelligent people |
| 00:16.38 | Mr_Rabies | well, cutting education is always a downward spiral |
| 00:16.55 | Mr_Rabies | cutting education makes people dumber which makes it easier to cut education which makes people dumber, etc etc etc |
| 00:17.21 | Mr_Rabies | i think firemen are still held to that regard, vlad |
| 00:17.24 | Vladinator | practical wisdom is something that lacks in modern days |
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| 00:17.43 | Mr_Rabies | considering many of them are volunteer at this point after extensive cuts |
| 00:18.30 | Vladinator | so how's that debt clock going? :P |
| 00:18.37 | Vladinator | still adding a new digit to it each year? ^^ |
| 00:18.46 | Vladinator | the problem is deep rooted in the financial system tbh |
| 00:18.48 | Dagmar | I think it's time to cut politicians |
| 00:18.57 | Mr_Rabies | i'd be fine with adding 5 digits a year if it was because it was helping people out |
| 00:19.25 | mckenziemc | not for long |
| 00:19.35 | Mr_Rabies | instead it's lining people's pockets |
| 00:19.42 | Vladinator | oh I am curious, what happens if I take out a billion USD in cash and burn the money, is the value lost forever from the system? |
| 00:19.43 | Dagmar | WHy, that's helpnig people |
| 00:19.49 | Dagmar | You're helping rich people |
| 00:19.59 | Dagmar | Everyone who isn't rich is clearly lazy |
| 00:20.01 | Neffi | flees at the topic changes to politics. |
| 00:20.08 | Vladinator | hehe |
| 00:20.14 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 00:20.29 | Dagmar | Vladinator: So long as you declare an LLC investment brokerage, it's totally find |
| 00:20.30 | Dagmar | er fine |
| 00:20.33 | Mr_Rabies | thing is, this wouldn't be political in most of the developed world |
| 00:21.18 | Vladinator | I just wonder if the system is broken, like if I take out so much money and just keep it in my house or destroy it, will the country be poorer or? :P |
| 00:21.40 | Mr_Rabies | i'll cut it out |
| 00:22.01 | mckenziemc | "broken" implies solvable |
| 00:22.05 | Mr_Rabies | i don't wanna make Cairenn have to deal with more stress with these IP thieves afoot if we get into an internet fistfight |
| 00:22.13 | Vladinator | :D |
| 00:22.15 | mckenziemc | i don't think what you're talking about is solvable (sp) |
| 00:22.16 | batbot | mckenziemc, solvable is correct. |
| 00:22.25 | Vladinator | one once said, you can't fix a problem with the same state of mind that created it ;) |
| 00:22.26 | Cairenn | Mr_Rabies: ? |
| 00:22.33 | Mr_Rabies | talkin' bout politics :p |
| 00:22.37 | Cairenn | ah |
| 00:22.45 | g0urra | I'm sad that Yellow Gremlin has shut down :( |
| 00:22.46 | Vladinator | last time I checked problems get solved by standard methods and the debt clock keeps adding digits so something is not going properly according to plan :D |
| 00:23.06 | g0urra | or was it Yellow Goblin.. yg.com anyway |
| 00:23.30 | g0urra | yeah Gremlin |
| 00:24.02 | Vladinator | watching Recount,old movie from 2008 |
| 00:24.17 | arton | And pandas. |
| 00:24.27 | Vladinator | about the voting bush algore :P |
| 00:24.33 | Dagmar | BUT WE NEED MORE TANKS |
| 00:24.49 | Vladinator | it's too late, gotta sleep :( |
| 00:25.06 | Dagmar | Cities with less than ten square blocks that go over five floors NEED multiple predator drones! |
| 00:25.29 | Dagmar | (Yes, Nashville has fucking three of them. I hope to destroy them personally) |
| 00:27.28 | Vladinator | I don't live in US but heck I watch a lot of US stuff, politics and such. |
| 00:27.49 | Vladinator | I bet I know more of US than US citizens know about Norway or any other given country in the EU :P |
| 00:28.15 | mckenziemc | we're full of idiots, what more is there to know? |
| 00:28.16 | Vladinator | well it DOES help that its in english, hard for you guys to watch norwegian debates :P |
| 00:36.19 | Ama|heroics | hrm. |
| 00:36.29 | Ama|heroics | it's not possible for Millhouse to fail to spawn if you finish the final Arc encounter too quickly, is it? |
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| 00:38.28 | Vladinator | no |
| 00:39.00 | Vladinator | I hate this movie, makes me want to hit politicians :P |
| 00:39.05 | Vladinator | So I go to bed lol |
| 00:39.54 | Adys | Ama|heroics: im guessing it would be known by now, but everything is possible with blizzard's lack of testing anything thats not top level. |
| 00:40.20 | ccox | who knows about Pandaria GetNormalTexture returning NIL for buttons ? |
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| 00:48.51 | arton | give his best panda impression. |
| 00:49.14 | arton | *cute grin* |
| 00:52.26 | arton | freaking pandas with lazers |
| 00:59.04 | ccox | ok, FYI -- button:GetNormalTexture returns NIL, so copying it doesn't quite work |
| 00:59.56 | ccox | you have to copy or create the default button texture: dest_button:CreateTexture(nil, nil, "UIPanelButtonUpTexture") |
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| 01:30.06 | Sintacks | :| i like the idea behind gnosis profiles ... it doesn't store them globally, unless you do it yourself, but i don't like it at the same time ... |
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| 02:16.34 | kd3 | hm |
| 02:16.38 | kd3 | a 0-line UI diff |
| 02:17.17 | End_ | that sounds wrong? |
| 02:17.24 | End_ | but it could be true |
| 02:17.27 | kd3 | it just means we're getting close |
| 02:17.38 | kd3 | considering the release is ~10 days away... that's a good thing |
| 02:17.50 | End_ | I guess this build was only like two days after the previous too |
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| 02:25.23 | kd3 | emails out (0-line diff) |
| 02:26.21 | End_ | woo |
| 02:26.57 | Ketho | yay |
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| 02:35.09 | arton | being on a trial account sucks cause you can't troll trade chat. :/ |
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| 02:43.07 | Kaylin | s/troll/spam |
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| 02:45.06 | g0urra | Kaylin: you can't spam trade chat anyway |
| 02:46.13 | Kaylin | no you can't flood trade chat |
| 02:46.51 | Kaylin | you can still send awful junk messages about thunderfury and gold buying. |
| 02:50.48 | arton | nerf trade chat |
| 02:50.53 | arton | again |
| 02:50.54 | arton | :/ |
| 02:51.09 | arton | Does it still throttle? |
| 02:51.22 | arton | The client I mean. |
| 02:51.26 | Kaylin | yes |
| 02:51.30 | arton | nods. |
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| 03:07.04 | Ama|heroics | grabs the RNG by the scruff of the neck and starts shaking it vigorously. :P |
| 03:07.52 | Ama|heroics | We tried to 4-man Sarth3D and it didn't work out for want of heals, so we grabbed a healer from SW, and of course he wins the damn mount |
| 03:08.39 | arton | hah |
| 03:46.00 | arton | So you can't buy magic spells from eBay anymore. I guess this includes "blessed" candles? |
| 03:46.41 | arton | Gets creepy though when people are buying penis enlargement spells. |
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| 03:47.17 | Amarande | I'm assuming that they mean that you can't buy ones that don't actually involve the purchase of physical goods |
| 03:47.32 | Amarande | "blessed" candles and such would probably come under the heading of religious paraphernalia instead :S |
| 03:47.39 | arton | Well it includes "blessing services." |
| 03:47.53 | Kaylin | :( where will I buy my expensive rebranded gatorade now, I like potions |
| 03:51.16 | Amarande | arton: has to pretty much, otherwise there would be a row over religious discrimination, because if you specifically bar something termed a "spell" |
| 03:51.44 | Amarande | then you'd be pretty much specifically targeting pagan and occultist faiths, while standard run of the mill Abrahamic religions wouldn't have a problem because their terms are usually "miracles" or "blessings" or the like |
| 03:57.31 | End_ | attempt to compare number with a table!?? |
| 03:57.36 | End_ | I'll compare you with a table!!! |
| 03:57.50 | mckenziemc | lua> End_ == {} |
| 03:57.50 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: false |
| 03:58.13 | End_ | lua> type(End_) |
| 03:58.14 | lua_bot | End_: nil |
| 03:58.16 | End_ | I am but nothing |
| 03:59.37 | End_ | neat it works |
| 04:00.45 | arton | o.O |
| 04:00.47 | arton | What works? |
| 04:01.08 | End_ | my ridiculously complicated code |
| 04:01.22 | End_ | I was pulling a value from a table and then passing the table instead of the value |
| 04:01.40 | End_ | (it does more than that) |
| 04:01.51 | arton | ah a bug |
| 04:01.55 | Kaylin | flips a table. |
| 04:02.03 | mckenziemc | flips a Kaylin. |
| 04:02.06 | End_ | flops a table. |
| 04:02.09 | arton | flips and tilts. |
| 04:02.19 | Kaylin | john kerrys a table. |
| 04:03.22 | mckenziemc | carries Kaylin out to the ambulance. |
| 04:03.51 | Cairenn | has too much to drink and dances on a table |
| 04:03.55 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 04:03.56 | Cairenn | s/to/too/ |
| 04:04.13 | mckenziemc | ... |
| 04:04.17 | Cairenn | errr, nm, had it right the first time :p |
| 04:04.24 | arton | :) |
| 04:04.26 | kd3 | I'd say something, but I don't want to get slapped across IRC |
| 04:04.31 | Cairenn | :p |
| 04:04.31 | arton | lmao |
| 04:04.42 | End_ | yup definitely too much to drink |
| 04:05.17 | Cairenn | (*waits for comments of "what, again?"*) |
| 04:06.26 | kd3 | eh, you've had good reason to drink of late |
| 04:07.48 | Amarande | most of the channel has, indeed |
| 04:07.58 | Amarande | passes around a round of Sulfuron Slammer |
| 04:09.31 | ccox | just watches Cairenn |
| 04:11.31 | End_ | nooo my shivarra is stunned for 13 days |
| 04:17.03 | Amarande | Wow, Magtheridon must have been a living hell to coordinate the pull for back in the day. |
| 04:17.19 | kd3 | yes |
| 04:17.22 | Amarande | We still had to wipe it up in the guild group because the door closed unexpectedly on half of our group of four the first time |
| 04:17.29 | Amarande | and we weren't quite sure if people stuck outside would get credit |
| 04:17.57 | durcyn | that's utterly daft, you can stand well inside before engaging |
| 04:18.13 | kd3 | before the nerfs, the pull was the worst part of the fight if the initial aggro stuck |
| 04:18.30 | Amarande | kd3: the thing that occurred to me is that it's ridiculously easy to pull early and lock half your raid out of the gate |
| 04:18.48 | kd3 | breathe on a mob wrong and you'll start the encounter |
| 04:18.57 | Amarande | due to the fact that several of the initial adds are ?? Boss (so don't lose aggro radius with level, *either*, which I think is what got us with our 83-85 characters) |
| 04:19.15 | Kaylin | is playing Diablo II: Lord of Destruction in USEast. |
| 04:19.17 | Amarande | and one of them is extremely close to the gate, so you have to enter *just so* if you don't have perfect lockstep :P |
| 04:19.32 | Amarande | wow, I haven't played D2 in a while, I think my toons are all expired |
| 04:19.41 | Amarande | Kaylin: did I ever tell you what people are complaining about about D3 lately, BTW? :) |
| 04:19.41 | Kaylin | did they have uncommon names? |
| 04:19.53 | Amarande | probably. though it's been long enough that server cleanup may have occurred. |
| 04:20.05 | Kaylin | no harm in trying and no you didn't |
| 04:20.23 | Amarande | People are apparently complaining that D3 lacks an endgame apart from going back and redoing cleared content to farm loot |
| 04:20.28 | Amarande | ... *headdesk* ... |
| 04:20.39 | Amarande | seriously. they bought a Diablo game and then complained because it had the kind of gameplay that DIABLO GAMES ALWAYS HAVE |
| 04:20.43 | Kaylin | so basically d3 is too much like d2 |
| 04:21.23 | Amarande | It's like buying Fallout 3 and complaining that there's too many radiation-suffused areas |
| 04:21.43 | Kaylin | I suppose with the way they're nerfing it like it's an MMO instead of a semi-solo romp through demon infested wastelands, that might be kind of true. People always made absurd builds in d2 and tried them out, hard to do that when you figure out something cool and it gets nerfed to the ground 2 days later. |
| 04:21.59 | Amarande | btw, exactly what did the cubes used to do in Mag? |
| 04:22.13 | End_ | stop his channeled raid wpe |
| 04:22.20 | Amarande | at 83-85, he's so laughably wimpy that we never really needed to use them, although I clicked a couple and didn't seem to see any noticeable difference |
| 04:22.30 | End_ | basically every minute he'd wipe the raid unless you stunned him using those cubes |
| 04:22.31 | kd3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/Magtheridon_(tactics) |
| 04:23.09 | Arrowmaster | yeah he a flame burst like attack that would wipe raids |
| 04:23.31 | Arrowmaster | but with level 80 hp you wouldnt be effected by it |
| 04:29.14 | Kaylin | does d3 have pvp yet? |
| 04:36.35 | Jammer | Kaylin: nope |
| 04:39.51 | arton | help the helpers help themselves to the helpings. |
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| 04:49.05 | mckenziemc | hey bluworkcow |
| 04:49.18 | bluworkcow | oh hai |
| 04:49.30 | mckenziemc | no bluworkcow |
| 04:49.31 | arton | act natural |
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| 04:52.14 | arton | doesn't need to chat on Trade channel anyways. |
| 04:52.34 | mckenziemc | yes you do |
| 04:52.44 | arton | I can't. |
| 04:53.47 | arton | is there an AA for trolling? Trolling Anonymous? |
| 04:59.27 | arton | I just need to renew my subscription, but forgot before I ran out of money for the month. |
| 05:00.47 | Arrowmaster | you seriously do not want to know the lengths im going through right now to access a LUKS encrypted external drive while i dont have my linux desktop |
| 05:01.23 | mckenziemc | ok |
| 05:01.38 | Sintacks | reported |
| 05:01.45 | Sintacks | to the FBI |
| 05:01.49 | Sintacks | for cyber crimes |
| 05:01.51 | Sintacks | against mckenziemc |
| 05:02.04 | Arrowmaster | i tried to get my android tablet to access it but that didnt work at all |
| 05:02.13 | Dagmar | You underestimate our ability to engage in vicarious sadism. |
| 05:02.23 | mckenziemc | hacks Sintacks's breathing algorithm. |
| 05:02.27 | Arrowmaster | so im using a livecd in another laptop to share it via cifs |
| 05:02.28 | Sintacks | ides. |
| 05:02.33 | Sintacks | dies as well. |
| 05:03.55 | Thunder_Child | The ides of Sintacks |
| 05:04.02 | Thunder_Child | not a bad ring |
| 05:08.28 | arton | How much is a WoW subscription per month? |
| 05:08.42 | bluworkcow | i dunno lol |
| 05:08.57 | bluworkcow | i forgets! |
| 05:09.04 | bluworkcow | 2 movie tickets ? |
| 05:09.18 | arton | Well there's a game card. |
| 05:09.20 | Kaylin | na, more like 1, if you don't get a drink or soda, then it's 1/2 |
| 05:09.25 | Thunder_Child | 1 movie ticket |
| 05:09.37 | bluworkcow | damn |
| 05:09.47 | arton | o.O |
| 05:13.15 | bluworkcow | mind you |
| 05:13.26 | bluworkcow | i don't mind paying for a premium movie experience |
| 05:14.02 | Kaylin | (if it's a premium movie) |
| 05:14.41 | bluworkcow | we has a fancy movie theatre in Hamilton NZ here. Has a bar in it , food hall like place to get snacks from (inc prem, ice cream bar) as well as pizza delivered _in_ the theatre |
| 05:14.54 | bluworkcow | seats have jacks for noise cancelling headphones. |
| 05:15.16 | Kaylin | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/movie_theater_layout |
| 05:15.18 | Kaylin | basically that |
| 05:15.27 | arton | nice |
| 05:16.33 | bluworkcow | seriously you walk through this area that has a milkshake bar , ice cream bar , 4 fridges full of drinks , 4 of those things where you fill your own cup , candy pick and mix .... |
| 05:17.13 | bluworkcow | when i say bar i mean like a place that has a counter and hot employee to fill your selections |
| 05:17.48 | Kaylin | what do you want tonight baby? ;) |
| 05:20.16 | bluworkcow | rawrrrr |
| 05:20.32 | Kaylin | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:23.02 | Kaylin | if I have shots of tequila and 2 shots of cointreau but it's in 1 glass is that still 1 drink or is it 6? *stumbles about* |
| 05:23.34 | quse | the fancy theatre here has dining service mid movie |
| 05:23.41 | quse | and alcohol of course |
| 05:24.04 | Kaylin | the fancy theatre here has um, a screen, and uh, good speakers? /sad |
| 05:24.28 | quse | thats because you're in NEW JERSEY |
| 05:24.35 | quse | (idk i just info'd) |
| 05:24.46 | Kaylin | no :( Seattle |
| 05:25.02 | quse | or i looked at the wrong info |
| 05:25.04 | Kaylin | if I were in New Jersey I'd like and say New York. |
| 05:25.11 | quse | you're connected through a NJ server |
| 05:25.21 | Kaylin | this is probably true. |
| 05:25.29 | quse | i blame it on beer |
| 05:25.43 | Kaylin | I blame it on SSL |
| 05:27.33 | Kaylin | lol server names, looking at the list |
| 05:27.42 | Kaylin | morgan.freenode.net I see what they did there. |
| 05:28.05 | Kaylin | it's a pun bc sci-fi authors but also |
| 05:28.25 | Kaylin | morgan freeman >_> |
| 05:31.02 | Arrowmaster | they should rename it martin |
| 05:31.09 | Arrowmaster | Adys: ^^ |
| 05:31.11 | arton | it's a sign from the stars |
| 05:31.22 | arton | They're about to align. |
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| 05:31.52 | arton | Shouldn't be probing at Mars. |
| 05:32.55 | Thunder_Child | Shouls we be probing at uranus instead? </obviousjoke> |
| 05:33.13 | arton | lol ouch |
| 05:33.45 | arton | No, shoulda left the Moon alone too. |
| 05:34.18 | arton | jests. |
| 05:35.01 | Torhal | https://images.4chan.org/v/src/1345341807870.jpg |
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| 05:42.14 | Kaylin | http://imgur.com/gallery/l8KV8 |
| 05:42.33 | End_ | dawwww kitty |
| 05:46.21 | Cairenn | awwww, what a beautiful kitty |
| 05:58.50 | arton | hehe instant smiles |
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| 06:10.43 | Kaylin | You know Windows, I hear this version is great and all, but I'm not allowed to use my smart phone at work :X |
| 06:22.09 | Kaylin | so, this is a torrent, like I can seed the patch when I am sleeping and not using my computer? |
| 06:22.13 | Kaylin | @ wow patch |
| 06:25.39 | AcidWeb | woa remved my work |
| 06:25.41 | AcidWeb | Atlast. |
| 06:26.40 | Cairenn | good |
| 06:30.19 | AcidWeb | Also "I do know that PMs were sent to all authors. I have a theory as to why they never arrived, but that is what it is, only a theory. I can't fix that now. " |
| 06:30.24 | AcidWeb | Let me guess... |
| 06:30.45 | AcidWeb | He is thinking about some WoWI-Curse conspiracy? :D |
| 06:32.09 | Cairenn | Oh, that's like this lovely line that keeps coming up |
| 06:32.10 | Kaylin | it's an Internet Relay Conspiracy, I hear that privmsgs I send to #wowuidev are relayed to 140 users at this very moment, if you don't get them I have no idea why. |
| 06:32.19 | Cairenn | "If we were not spammed by fake takedown requests sent by staff of competing sites this would be a much quicker process." |
| 06:33.16 | Kaylin | if authors had uploaded files themselves I'd presume they could remove them you know, without having to issue them at all. *headdesk* |
| 06:33.50 | nevcairiel | i was wondering if simply claiming my addons and then deleting them afterwards would be easier :P |
| 06:33.59 | Cairenn | probably, yes |
| 06:34.14 | Cairenn | I just can't believe this entire fiasco |
| 06:34.22 | AcidWeb | nevcairiel: If they would add that option World of Addons would transform in World of Playerscore fast ;p |
| 06:34.57 | Kaylin | but playerscore is fun, it makes trade chat more like League of Legends PvP game chat. |
| 06:34.58 | Cairenn | oh, once they confirm you are the author, supposedly you have full control |
| 06:35.13 | Kaylin | revels in nerd rage. |
| 06:39.50 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:44.35 | arton | 35KB/s download from battle.net :/ |
| 06:48.02 | arton | Oh I also have the background downloader downloading native WoW. |
| 06:49.28 | Torhal | http://i.imgur.com/ZCd5N.png |
| 06:49.39 | Cairenn | lol |
| 06:49.56 | arton | Beta might not work with Wine it appears. |
| 06:50.25 | arton | buummer |
| 06:52.12 | Kaylin | that cat looks a lot like my parents' cat, who does indeed hate me. |
| 06:52.40 | Torhal | http://imgur.com/J1qs0 |
| 06:56.01 | arton | The world needs more Hobbits. |
| 06:57.38 | Kaylin | s/hobbits/boyfriends |
| 06:59.28 | Xinhuan | has anyone checked out what wowaddons' Spark addon manager/installer does? |
| 06:59.52 | mikma | cairenn: http://imgur.com/gallery/SroHY |
| 07:00.15 | Xinhuan | it seems like everyone is focusing on addon copyright, and not on the client that they offer so far |
| 07:00.25 | Cairenn | okay |
| 07:01.08 | Xinhuan | might be useful to see if it does anything other than managing addons |
| 07:01.33 | mikma | cairenn: what about, http://imgur.com/gallery/565mQ |
| 07:01.40 | Cairenn | I haven't as of yet, no idea if anyone else has, Xinhuan |
| 07:01.50 | Xinhuan | maybe shirik can do it :P |
| 07:01.53 | Cairenn | mikma: ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww |
| 07:02.10 | mikma | bingo |
| 07:02.16 | bluworkcow | i do know it's not written in hypertalk. so somone has at least looked at it i guess |
| 07:06.57 | Sintacks | fucking hate plants vs zombies |
| 07:08.07 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/0PabR |
| 07:09.29 | mikma | nsfw, lol lol lol! http://imgur.com/gallery/kjKO4 |
| 07:14.04 | Humbedooh | oh mikma...you...finn |
| 07:18.01 | mikma | why thank you 8) |
| 07:19.28 | bluworkcow | http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/AVADA_c38f0c_1817550.gif |
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| 07:19.44 | bluworkcow | oh hai2u |
| 07:19.49 | Sintacks | mmm. bacon |
| 07:20.19 | bluworkcow | Kemayo : http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/AVADA_c38f0c_1817550.gif (context) |
| 07:20.45 | Kemayo | Bacon rarely requires context. |
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| 07:38.58 | bluworkcow | https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/552116_434389129937091_113442433_n.jpg |
| 07:44.27 | quse | I sincerely have never ever bothered with auto installers, so Spark's functionality is a 100% non-issue |
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| 07:45.45 | quse | I don't think I've ever really used an addon I haven't modified so the auto-installer is useless, but probably 99% of WoW's addon users don't mess with addon code/lua-based addons. |
| 07:47.05 | Humbedooh | mikma, is this you? :| http://www.dr.dk/drfront/images//2012/08/18/c=65,194,1236,1345;w=420;20621.jpg (nsfw-ish) |
| 07:47.34 | Humbedooh | blue + white must = finn! |
| 07:47.54 | Humbedooh | or papa smurf |
| 07:48.35 | Sintacks | oh god... would you rather have a dual portal gun, or a gravity gun |
| 07:49.05 | Kaylin | what's a gravity gun do? does it attract other objects based on its mass? because the portal gun would do that too |
| 07:50.07 | Sintacks | ... |
| 07:50.18 | Kaylin | what? |
| 07:50.28 | Sintacks | I've never even played Half Life and I know what a gravity gun is. |
| 07:50.41 | Kaylin | I have played half life and I have no idea what it is so there. |
| 07:50.51 | Kaylin | I played through the original and blue shift and opposing force |
| 07:50.54 | Humbedooh | it's that cool gun you get in the end :\ |
| 07:50.58 | Sintacks | it's in 2 |
| 07:51.04 | Kaylin | I have not played hl2 |
| 07:51.24 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:51.43 | Sintacks | so, you can pick up shit, and throw it around |
| 07:51.43 | mikma | humbedooh: ho ho ho |
| 07:51.44 | Sintacks | and shit |
| 07:52.40 | Sintacks | i'd rather have a portal gun |
| 07:52.54 | Kaylin | I think the portal gun would be more practically useful in my day to day life. The gravity gun might have more industrial applications. Portal gun could be used to generate infinite energy though through floor/ceiling portals. |
| 07:53.55 | Kaylin | sleep |
| 07:55.45 | Sintacks | like that'd be the first thing you'd do ... |
| 07:55.56 | Sintacks | everyone knows the first thing they would do with a portal gun is go down on themselves |
| 07:59.53 | arton | Is there a list of UI functions that cause taint when used? |
| 08:00.16 | durcyn | 1. dropdowns, 2. dropdowns, 3. dropdowns |
| 08:00.31 | arton | Nah it's GuildInfo() |
| 08:00.34 | arton | I think. |
| 08:01.15 | arton | can't recall how to turn on taint checks. |
| 08:03.54 | Sintacks | there's a google for that |
| 08:04.25 | Sintacks | durcyn made a funny though |
| 08:04.38 | arton | can't reproduce it anyway. my guildie left me. |
| 08:04.50 | Humbedooh | :( |
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| 08:54.47 | Fisker | YES |
| 08:55.00 | Fisker | Blizzard should fix WoW |
| 08:55.13 | arton | Fisker should fix Blizzard |
| 08:55.15 | Fisker | Because i can watch a 1080p video on youtube |
| 08:55.20 | Fisker | so that means wow is broken since it lags |
| 08:55.37 | Fisker | can't at all be my problem since i can watch 1080p videos |
| 08:55.42 | Fisker | on youtube |
| 08:56.13 | bluworkcow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/5978428209?page=1 |
| 08:56.22 | bluworkcow | a massage to Blizzard |
| 08:56.24 | bluworkcow | :P |
| 08:56.41 | Fisker | why you try to hack me yesterday bluworkcow ? |
| 08:57.12 | arton | Now fisker thinks he's being hacked. |
| 08:57.53 | bluworkcow | because |
| 08:57.56 | bluworkcow | ponies. |
| 08:58.31 | arton | are ponies edible? I know people eat horse. |
| 08:59.26 | arton | So apparently scientists have proven animals are concious beings. |
| 09:00.23 | arton | And if plants are concious beings, then we'll just have to starve. |
| 09:01.13 | arton | shouldn't be up. |
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| 09:17.33 | Humbedooh | whee, my addons work in MoP without modification, yay |
| 09:19.22 | arton | nice |
| 09:19.51 | AcidWeb | Humbedooh: lucky you |
| 09:19.55 | arton | I can't get the beta client to install under Wine, so I'm not sure yet. |
| 09:30.22 | bluworkcow | .... |
| 09:30.36 | bluworkcow | apparently i logged a job in may for a wandering house. |
| 09:30.43 | bluworkcow | think that's meant to be wandering horse |
| 09:35.06 | Fisker | bluworkcow |
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| 09:39.18 | Silvanas | hello |
| 09:43.11 | Humbedooh | hullo |
| 09:44.27 | arton | wants to join two guilds at once. :( |
| 09:45.16 | cbreak | arton: alts |
| 09:45.26 | arton | yeah yeah |
| 09:45.42 | arton | Would be nice if I didn't have to relog into a new char. |
| 09:46.38 | cbreak | dual boxing was possible a few years ago. Not sure how that's now. |
| 09:58.02 | Sintacks | "ts not my internt connection as i have 30MB down and 19MB up. " |
| 09:58.04 | Sintacks | i call bullshit |
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| 10:18.10 | arton | calls bullshit too. |
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| 10:53.49 | bluworkcow | kk i go homes nows |
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| 10:57.53 | cbreak | hmm... steam is shit |
| 10:58.57 | cbreak | those valve assholes prevent me from playing Deus Ex HR |
| 10:59.16 | cbreak | without me agreeing some stupid contract with them |
| 10:59.19 | cbreak | scumbags |
| 11:13.16 | Vladinator | Adys: ? |
| 11:14.08 | Vladinator | I manually build your stormmodule.cc by using the StormLib VS project and making a fork of it and adding your file, it got baked into a dll now, hope it works :P |
| 11:16.24 | Vladinator | Just missing storm.py I figure, or the storm.dll should have been loaded here? "ImportError: cannot import name storm" |
| 11:22.40 | Vladinator | Adys probably wanted me to get https://github.com/vjeux/pyStormLib |
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| 11:56.26 | Vladinator | Breaking your html layouts since 2011 http://mop.wowhead.com/npc=50409#comments:id=1421055 :3 |
| 11:56.45 | Vladinator | Funny how a line with no spaces can't be broken up :3 |
| 11:59.45 | cbreak | that's normal |
| 12:00.10 | cbreak | hyphenation rules in most latin/germanic languages don't consider numeric strings valid targets |
| 12:00.25 | cbreak | and I am not sure if HTML even allows auto hyphenation like LaTeX |
| 12:05.59 | Adys | Vladinator: vjeux's lib is ctypes-based |
| 12:06.04 | Adys | mine is cpython |
| 12:08.32 | Vladinator | :D |
| 12:09.36 | cbreak | c++python? :) |
| 12:11.39 | Ackis | yay all three of my crabbies were out this morning :D |
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| 12:12.17 | Adys | cbreak: its only in c++ because stormlib is |
| 12:12.24 | Adys | altho |
| 12:12.29 | Adys | it should be possible to avoid that now |
| 12:12.50 | cbreak | at work I've had to wrap C++ code into a C api a few times |
| 12:13.04 | cbreak | mainly because of compiler issues on windows... |
| 12:13.22 | cbreak | it's basically a facade pattern |
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| 12:30.58 | Vladinator | FYI adys your code works natively on unix python but not windows, I had to change a couple of types unsigned ints to something else, strom API itself is different on win it appears. |
| 12:31.24 | Vladinator | I think I managed to make a dll but it wasn't accepted by the py file :( |
| 12:31.37 | Vladinator | still complains when importing storm, hehe, anyway, was fun to try |
| 12:32.10 | Adys | idk, never really cared much about windows, sorry |
| 12:33.59 | Humbedooh | who uses Windows anyway ;> |
| 12:36.24 | Vladinator | :P |
| 12:36.42 | Vladinator | I realized I should start to tag code I release what it's meant for, win, unix, e.g. |
| 12:36.43 | Vladinator | helps ^^ |
| 12:38.38 | kagaro | Adys i did my ruby version with ffi |
| 12:39.09 | Vladinator | btw the comment issue on wowhead, you can fix it by defining a max-width |
| 12:39.16 | Vladinator | that can never grow over the parent div.comment container |
| 12:39.20 | Vladinator | ^^ |
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| 13:47.29 | Dexterus | hi all. I have one small question. Is there some issue with UnitChannelInfo startTime/endTime values? I never seem to get the extra chain channel tick added to it (the leftover time until next tick that you get prepended to the new channel when you recast the same spell) |
| 13:50.05 | Dexterus | I still get +1 damage ticks from the 2 channels so it doesn't look like Blizzard removed that mechanic to help with chain channeling |
| 13:51.36 | Silvanas | thats is to technical for me, cant help you there |
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| 13:54.32 | Dexterus | thx for reading it at least :P |
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| 14:02.55 | Vladinator | hmm |
| 14:04.27 | wereHamster | I also read it |
| 14:05.40 | Vladinator | it just I am not sure if ticks are a part of the API system |
| 14:05.50 | Vladinator | can blizzards default channel bare show ticks? |
| 14:05.57 | Vladinator | if not then it may be server side |
| 14:06.23 | Vladinator | if that is the case gotta estimate ticks based on various combat data :( |
| 14:07.10 | Dexterus | they're not but I was expecting UnitChannelInfo to say (for example) 13.1s when i recast Drain Soul from another Drain Soul on 7.1 sec left, because damage tick wise that's what actually happens |
| 14:07.35 | Dexterus | you get the tick that was supposed to happen in 1.1s at the start of the new cast |
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| 14:19.55 | bluspacecow | ... |
| 14:20.14 | bluspacecow | i can cast running wild on a human priest premade on the PTR |
| 14:21.33 | sidji | but you "dismount" after moving, or? |
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| 14:23.47 | Humbedooh | o beta, why must you be broken :( |
| 14:23.47 | sidji | my paly get this spell each zone change on beta |
| 14:27.10 | bluspacecow | a few seconds after |
| 14:27.25 | bluspacecow | its funny as i wasn't sure the human model had a doggie style pose |
| 14:27.46 | Amarande | bluspacecow: this must be popular on Moon Guard |
| 14:27.56 | bluspacecow | LOL |
| 14:28.07 | Amarande | speaking of which, did they ever decide to backpedal on shared zones for RP servers? |
| 14:28.25 | Amarande | Or is Wyrmrest Accord going to see a lot of lost subs in the near future in particular :| |
| 14:31.22 | Kraps | uhhh |
| 14:32.46 | Kraps | the pre-expansion patch is next week?? |
| 14:33.53 | Kraps | Patch 5.0.4 will be here on Tuesday, Aug. 28 |
| 14:33.59 | Kraps | omigosh |
| 14:34.06 | bluspacecow | yep |
| 14:34.20 | bluspacecow | better git all ur addons updated |
| 14:35.15 | Fisker | hacker bluspacecow |
| 14:35.19 | Kraps | i erased them all |
| 14:35.25 | bluspacecow | lulz |
| 14:35.35 | Kraps | so i have to start from scratch |
| 14:43.22 | Kraps | Unwavering Sentinel, the warrior protection mastery, makes Thunder Clap free |
| 14:43.25 | Kraps | well |
| 14:43.28 | Kraps | shit |
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| 14:47.24 | Kraps | Thunder Clap also applies rend |
| 14:48.19 | Kraps | haha Heroic Strike is still there and apparently still pointless? |
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| 15:04.15 | Stanzilla | rend is now wounds |
| 15:08.14 | Amarande | say, does 5.0.4 auto-erase all your addons when it gets applied, requiring a manual backup of the addon folder or does it just slot in like any other patch? |
| 15:09.39 | Stanzilla | why would a patch mess with your personal files? |
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| 15:10.09 | Amarande | Stan: I seem to remember either 3.0.2 or 4.0.1 automatically cleared your addon folder when installed, but I'm not sure now |
| 15:10.18 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 15:10.40 | bluspacecow | it shouldn't no |
| 15:10.54 | bluspacecow | but i take regular backups of the user created files in the wow folder anyway. |
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| 15:33.41 | A-KO | ok |
| 15:33.43 | A-KO | Windows 8 is fast |
| 15:36.31 | Amarande | A-KO: does the upgrade disc this time allow for a clean install? |
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| 15:55.40 | A-KO | Amarande: not using it, using MSDN copy |
| 15:55.47 | A-KO | so it does a full install |
| 15:56.07 | Fisker | pls Amarande |
| 15:56.17 | A-KO | but seriously |
| 15:56.19 | A-KO | get 8 |
| 15:56.23 | A-KO | I'm on an old as dirt PC |
| 15:56.25 | A-KO | and it's snappy as hell |
| 15:56.29 | Fisker | shift+f10 mkdir windows? |
| 15:56.31 | Fisker | so hard |
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| 15:57.52 | mckenziemc | rm Fisker -rf |
| 15:58.02 | Fisker | pls mckenziemc |
| 15:58.05 | Fisker | this isn't linux |
| 15:58.13 | mckenziemc | checks Fisker's pls |
| 15:58.14 | Fisker | also the syntax is wrong |
| 15:59.01 | mckenziemc | your syntax is wrong |
| 16:00.07 | Fisker | that's not what your mom said last night |
| 16:01.03 | mckenziemc | yeah, she said there was nothing to look at |
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| 16:11.31 | F16Gaming | I should clean my desktop more frequently... http://i.imgur.com/3YapY.jpg |
| 16:13.06 | kullervo | looks more like a kitchen sink |
| 16:13.18 | bluspacecow | there's no icons! |
| 16:13.22 | F16Gaming | :P |
| 16:13.33 | F16Gaming | it turned green after rinsing with water, is that bad? |
| 16:13.59 | Amarande | that may indicate the presence of demonic corruption, F16Gaming |
| 16:14.07 | F16Gaming | i was afraid of that |
| 16:14.09 | Amarande | after all, that's what caused orcs to turn from normal colours to green :| |
| 16:14.43 | F16Gaming | what is the suggested course of action to deal with demonic dust? |
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| 16:15.10 | Amarande | Or maybe it was out of envy of Alliance for having things like gnome rogues that are impossible to click on quickly and run rings around you in BGs |
| 16:16.03 | Amarande | I'm afraid you might have to wait until Demonic Dust becomes enchanting mats and then take it to your local enchanter for use |
| 16:16.34 | F16Gaming | i have enchanting as primary profession, maybe i can enchant my desktop to not gather any more dust.. hmm |
| 16:16.53 | kullervo | but the hellfire orcs are now red after even more demonic corruption? |
| 16:17.11 | F16Gaming | i should keep an eye on the dust to see if it turns red after a while |
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| 16:57.33 | Amarande | ookkkkay. probably not a good idea to aggro that many mobs at once while soloing on cloth :P |
| 16:58.25 | bluspacecow | you shouldn't grind in your underwear then. |
| 16:59.38 | Dagmar | *snert* |
| 16:59.54 | bluspacecow | or maybe …. :P |
| 17:00.15 | Amarande | heh, forgot that pulling Blackheart pulls the entire room |
| 17:00.29 | Amarande | also: cabal cultists suck. |
| 17:00.42 | Amarande | which reminds me, the way interrupts work was always something I found relatively irritating coming to WoW from my previous MMO |
| 17:00.50 | Amarande | since in Guild Wars, interrupts were a lot less irritating to be the victim of |
| 17:02.32 | Amarande | In GW, as I remember, if you get interrupted the individual skill you were trying to use goes on CD (and virtually all skills in GW have cooldowns long enough to be of importance - wand damage is actually important for many casters, for instance) but none of your *other* skills are impacted unless the specific interrupt skill's properties say so. :) |
| 17:04.35 | Amarande | actually, that one bit is something I'd like to see be in WoW someday |
| 17:05.00 | Amarande | I'd like to see wands (and weapons in general) have more meaning for casters besides statsticks, especially since they've been getting away from statsticks in general with 5.0 |
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| 17:12.54 | Yoshimo | what was the /script to make the achievement goal tracker go away when it has no achievement to track but still is visible? |
| 17:14.17 | Amarande | Yoshimo: install QuestGuru, it takes care of niceties like that automatically |
| 17:14.40 | Amarande | in fact, QG will automatically swap to the quest or achievement tracker if you had the other one selected but no longer have anything tracked on that side |
| 17:15.06 | Yoshimo | it says "goals (1)" but there is no quest/achievement behind it anymore since its done |
| 17:15.19 | bluspacecow | there is a way |
| 17:15.34 | Amarande | The only thing I've noticed negative about QG actually, is that it doesn't seem to have specific handling for when you try to track too many achievements - that always ends up in bugsack if I forget and try to do so |
| 17:15.36 | bluspacecow | you can pass a function that removes the achievements a function that counts them |
| 17:15.40 | bluspacecow | wowprogramming.com |
| 17:15.51 | bluspacecow | just trying to find where i recorded how to do it |
| 17:16.49 | bluspacecow | http://bluspacecow.livejournal.com/3288.html |
| 17:16.53 | bluspacecow | possibly out of date. |
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| 17:20.04 | Ackis | anyone here play a warlock and want to teach me the ways of the lock? |
| 17:20.20 | Yoshimo | not outdated /script RemoveTrackedAchievement(GetTrackedAchievements()) did it |
| 17:25.20 | durcyn | Ackis: it's going to change in a week, what do you want to know now? |
| 17:28.06 | Ackis | durcyn: how do I aoe? |
| 17:28.24 | Ackis | seed, hellfire, reign of dicks? |
| 17:29.48 | Amarande | Generally, destro has usually used Rain of Fire and aff has used Seed |
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| 17:33.11 | Amarande | wtb aoe looting now |
| 17:33.23 | Amarande | I need to farm up 87 apexis shards to have done with this zone's achievement heh |
| 17:33.23 | Ressy | granted |
| 17:33.31 | Ressy | :P |
| 17:33.35 | Amarande | given that I'm an 83 mage, most of the time is going to be spent looting :P |
| 17:43.55 | Kraps | did the lady from wowinsider write anything yet? |
| 17:45.24 | Fisker | About what? |
| 17:45.49 | Kraps | tth and addons |
| 17:48.52 | End_ | I think the consesus was even bad publicity can be good publicity, although the possibility of a more generally worded article was suggested |
| 17:49.29 | End_ | Ackis: DOT EVERYTHING |
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| 17:51.48 | Yoshimo | tth? |
| 17:51.52 | End_ | tentonhammer |
| 17:51.58 | Yoshimo | ah ok |
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| 17:54.53 | bluspacecow | here's me thinking twisting the hell mouth :P |
| 17:58.14 | olafski_ | is the ToC version I should put for MoP 50000? :$ |
| 17:59.23 | AcidWeb | olafski: 50001 |
| 18:00.06 | Torhal | ROFL http://www.fmbv.nu/no-sex-tonight/ |
| 18:01.10 | olafski | acidweb: thanks |
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| 18:09.02 | Gnarfoz | ~toc |
| 18:09.03 | purl | The current WoW interface number is 40300, or magical. MoP is 50001 |
| 18:11.04 | Vladinator | Torhal |
| 18:11.23 | Torhal | Vladinator |
| 18:11.50 | Vladinator | You said that now with GetLootSourceInfo we can once again estimate drop chances, but... how do we count the number of times we loot something and it doesn't drop our item? |
| 18:12.23 | Vladinator | If you kill mobs it doesn't guarantee you actualy loot them, but the API only returns info of stuff you loot, so what happens to stuff you loot but doesn't drop anything, how do we count that? |
| 18:12.36 | Kaylin | we don't count that already |
| 18:13.00 | Torhal | Vladinator: Oh, no - all that function does is return the GUID of the NPC that dropped the item. From the GUID, you can resolve the IDnum. After several points of data are gathered on the item/NPC, a drop chance can be determined. |
| 18:13.02 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: zomg that's so old. :| |
| 18:13.06 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: :D |
| 18:13.13 | Vladinator | No but |
| 18:13.30 | Kaylin | it's the no response figure, similar to a phone poll when somebody hangs up, it's a choice but it's not an interesting one except for calculating error etc |
| 18:13.31 | Vladinator | If you kill a mob and loot it and it drops nothing, you need to register that too to make the % proper. |
| 18:13.32 | Gnarfoz | no butt |
| 18:13.38 | Torhal | Vladinator: Yes. |
| 18:13.52 | Gnarfoz | so? count the mobs you killed |
| 18:13.56 | Vladinator | Killed != looted |
| 18:14.00 | Torhal | Number of times looted versus occurrence of item. |
| 18:14.02 | Gnarfoz | yes, you just said that. |
| 18:14.07 | Gnarfoz | *nothing* has changed :P |
| 18:14.17 | Torhal | Empty loots should, of course, count as a loot. |
| 18:14.30 | Xinhuan | he's saying you can't detect empty loots with aoe loot |
| 18:14.42 | Kaylin | you can't with normal loot either I thought |
| 18:14.45 | Kaylin | or am I crazy |
| 18:14.52 | Vladinator | yes |
| 18:14.57 | Gnarfoz | that's what I thought, Kaylin |
| 18:15.04 | Gnarfoz | mob dead -> no loot -> ??? |
| 18:15.10 | Torhal | I'm pretty sure the LOOT_OPENED event fires regardless. I've gotten empty loot windows several times. |
| 18:15.14 | Gnarfoz | aoe mobs dead -> mob not in loot list -> same thing? |
| 18:15.22 | Xinhuan | if u loot a corpse normally now and its empty, the loot event still fires |
| 18:15.30 | Xinhuan | because the corpse still sparkles |
| 18:15.35 | Gnarfoz | so? you can keep track of which GUIDs you kill |
| 18:15.38 | Xinhuan | and u can "loot" it |
| 18:15.44 | Gnarfoz | and can compare that with the list of GUIDs for the AoE loot event |
| 18:15.54 | Kaylin | you can't keep track of which are looted though because I can kill gnomes all day and not loot them in AV |
| 18:16.00 | Vladinator | The GetLootSourceInfo only returns mobs that dropped items on the list, not the mobs that didn't drop anything. |
| 18:16.02 | Xinhuan | not accurate either, since your party member might have killed it, or u are looting a corpse someone else in your party killed |
| 18:16.26 | Gnarfoz | I'm afraid I don't get the distinction |
| 18:16.32 | Gnarfoz | (but then I'm not writing a loot chance tracker) |
| 18:17.02 | Xinhuan | k say party member kills mob X, and you loot mob X, you would have tracked 0 kills, but 1 loot |
| 18:17.03 | Gnarfoz | Vladinator: also, have you actually tested that? or does it say so somewhere? |
| 18:17.17 | Gnarfoz | so, track all kills, not just yours? |
| 18:17.19 | Vladinator | if you kill 10 mobs, 4 of them drop wool cloth, 6 of them didn't drop anything, GetLootSourceInfo only contains information about the wool cloth and where it came from, no GUID for the NPC that dropped nothing |
| 18:17.43 | Xinhuan | i think you're just going to have to assume the player looted every corpse |
| 18:17.44 | Gnarfoz | (and track all loot, too) |
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| 18:18.18 | Kaylin | This is solvable by prefacing the information as "of mobs that drop loot, X% drop epic lint of worth nothing next patch" |
| 18:18.29 | Vladinator | tbh it's not a big issue, just need the loot even to return a list of guids of those corpses that were involved in the loot |
| 18:18.34 | Gnarfoz | Vladinator: if it really is that way, forum post and ask them to add all GUIDs to the list, even the empty ones |
| 18:18.49 | Vladinator | don't got access to us forums :p |
| 18:18.51 | Xinhuan | so you would have tracked 10 mob deaths (caused by GUIDs in your party) via combat log |
| 18:18.55 | Torhal | Actually I believe it's supposed to return a list. I haven't checked yet though |
| 18:19.00 | Torhal | I'll do so on Monday. |
| 18:19.01 | Gnarfoz | well, let someone else do it, there's enough people in here |
| 18:19.06 | Vladinator | :3 |
| 18:19.10 | Vladinator | I'll chek |
| 18:19.27 | Xinhuan | i doubt blizz would add such information, they don't really want drop rates known do they? |
| 18:19.28 | Vladinator | I'm glad you guys understood my concern at least :P |
| 18:19.41 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: what makes you say that? they're reporting rough drop rates on the armory, too |
| 18:19.45 | Kaylin | http://imgur.com/gallery/8LuCO Also this is related to my dog, we gave her a bone for Christmas, she went outside to play with it in the snow, had so much fun she got frostnip and was all shivery and she was afraid of the bone because she associated it with being very cold. We had to give it to the neighbors' dog. |
| 18:19.47 | Torhal | Xinhuan: They specifically added that API because we asked. |
| 18:20.08 | Xinhuan | well it doesn't hurt asking i guess |
| 18:20.12 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 18:20.16 | Gnarfoz | a highly more reliable source of information (even if it's just "0-5%" or something like that) than any user-sourced information could ever be |
| 18:21.39 | Vladinator | know of npcs that can drop nothing? :P |
| 18:21.40 | Gnarfoz | hah, I wanted to check it out on beta, but... downloading patch |
| 18:21.42 | Gnarfoz | bleh |
| 18:21.43 | Vladinator | I can't recall any atm |
| 18:21.56 | Kaylin | can drop nothing or always drop nothing? |
| 18:22.17 | Vladinator | any of the above :D |
| 18:23.05 | Kaylin | flame leviathan trash always drops nothing, as do some stuff from daily quests near icc but idk if those examples are interesting |
| 18:24.44 | Vladinator | loot_opened didn't return info about who was involved |
| 18:24.50 | Vladinator | only arg1 about if autoloot is on or off |
| 18:25.08 | Amarande | Vlad: the protean horror things up by Bash'ir Landing in Blade's Edge seem to regularly (probably always) drop nothing |
| 18:25.19 | Amarande | (can you tell I'm busily farming apexis shards? heh) |
| 18:25.23 | Vladinator | omw there :3 |
| 18:26.00 | Amarande | I forget the exact name, they're the bluish mutated looking things that are all over the place east of the Landing |
| 18:26.40 | Vladinator | any northrend mobs nearby me maybe? that drop nothing :p |
| 18:27.07 | Amarande | Vlad: look for mobs that are meant to be killed in vehicle based quests, too |
| 18:27.15 | Amarande | those usually don't drop anything if killed by non-vehicle players |
| 18:29.23 | Vladinator | also needs to be lootable, some of these died and couldn't be looted hehe |
| 18:30.22 | Amarande | ah |
| 18:30.35 | Amarande | well, the shardhide boars seem to often not drop anything but just go directly from sparkles to skinnable |
| 18:30.48 | Vladinator | oh wait, GetLootSlotSourceInfo isn't yet added? |
| 18:30.53 | Vladinator | on the beta and it's nil :P |
| 18:31.21 | Vladinator | that was odd... |
| 18:31.57 | Vladinator | I am confused |
| 18:32.16 | Torhal | Vladinator: GetLotSourceInfo |
| 18:32.19 | Torhal | Loot* |
| 18:32.24 | Torhal | No slot. |
| 18:32.28 | Vladinator | lol |
| 18:32.37 | Vladinator | I copied it from Ketho's comment :D |
| 18:32.41 | Torhal | Heh |
| 18:32.42 | Vladinator | that you quoted him :3 |
| 18:32.50 | Torhal | I missed the fact that it was misnamed |
| 18:33.48 | Vladinator | money drops do not return any GUIDs |
| 18:33.55 | Vladinator | so tracking money is now a bit harder too :P |
| 18:33.59 | Vladinator | average drop per mob that is |
| 18:35.03 | Torhal | :/ |
| 18:37.38 | Vladinator | for example |
| 18:37.50 | Torhal | Vladinator: Kethod posted GetLootSourceInfo :) |
| 18:37.52 | Torhal | No Slot |
| 18:38.05 | Vladinator | 2 mobs killed, I got some gold and 6 frostweave cloth but the information says: |
| 18:38.10 | Vladinator | money dropped by no one |
| 18:38.14 | Torhal | Ick |
| 18:38.22 | Vladinator | 4 cloth dropped from mob 31137 and 0 from 31155 |
| 18:38.28 | Vladinator | 2 cloth uncounted for...? |
| 18:38.34 | Kaylin | tailor? |
| 18:39.12 | Vladinator | no |
| 18:39.14 | Vladinator | this is odd |
| 18:40.55 | Vladinator | the macro I made to get info of current loot: |
| 18:41.00 | Vladinator | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:41.05 | Vladinator | http://i46.tinypic.com/33cat1j.jpg |
| 18:42.15 | Torhal | That's....bizzarre |
| 18:42.19 | Vladinator | thing is |
| 18:42.22 | Vladinator | I killed 1 mob |
| 18:42.23 | Vladinator | then looted |
| 18:42.25 | Vladinator | then waited |
| 18:42.27 | Vladinator | killed one more |
| 18:42.34 | Torhal | Ah, hell |
| 18:42.41 | Vladinator | :P |
| 18:42.46 | Vladinator | appended results bug out |
| 18:43.01 | Vladinator | it was 4 at first but I've killed now 3 more mobs and they show up as 0 in the API ^^ |
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| 18:43.26 | Torhal | ... |
| 18:44.08 | schnoggo | After many months of crazy work schedules, it's time to play! Oh wait... It's time code some Lua :) |
| 18:44.34 | cbreak | you can do lua and work at the same time as playing... just getyourself WoW! :) |
| 18:44.50 | cbreak | where playing is working and lua is playing |
| 18:44.58 | Vladinator | so they gotta fix the API to properly show info when you kill npcs and add to the pile |
| 18:45.05 | Vladinator | also it should return info for the money slow, not nil |
| 18:45.12 | Vladinator | its good to know how much of the money came from what unit |
| 18:45.20 | Torhal | Aye |
| 18:45.23 | Vladinator | and last make it so corpses that dropped nothing are on the list |
| 18:45.46 | Vladinator | 3 things that needs to be improved and the API will be useful :D |
| 18:46.10 | schnoggo | Well, when I running projects for ZAM (Wowhead, et al) I got paid for my Lua work. THis year, PHP is paying the rent. But we just launched biggest client |
| 18:46.22 | schnoggo | 's web site, so I have a few weeks to "play" |
| 18:46.30 | cbreak | php!:( |
| 18:46.34 | cbreak | my condolences |
| 18:46.37 | Vladinator | HIDE FROM ADYS |
| 18:46.49 | Adys | ? |
| 18:46.53 | Amarande | bah. |
| 18:46.53 | schnoggo | Just starting to familiarize myself with teh new API. |
| 18:47.02 | Amarande | there was tons of khorium around when I didn't have enough mining skill to pick it up |
| 18:47.09 | Amarande | now that I actually have 500+ mining it never shows up :) |
| 18:47.44 | schnoggo | MOP doesn't run on my dev machine machine so I need to change the workflow... |
| 18:47.58 | Amarande | btw, is pandarian flying expensive enough that I should consider saving my gold for it rather than focusing first on 310%? |
| 18:48.48 | Adys | why don't you have it already |
| 18:49.06 | bluspacecow | i dunno lol |
| 18:49.17 | schnoggo | There we go... Share the Addons on the Windows machine. Mount on the Mac and git clone from the 4.3 addon folder. *cracks knuckles* |
| 18:49.28 | Adys | no offense but the way you talk about wow all the time you play a hell of a lot more than everyone here Amarande |
| 18:49.41 | Adys | so how the hell dont you already have 5k gold? |
| 18:50.04 | bluspacecow | pandarian flying ? |
| 18:50.10 | bluspacecow | as in MoP? |
| 18:50.13 | bluspacecow | as in the expansion ? |
| 18:50.32 | Torhal | bluspacecow: Using deductive reasoning since 2012. |
| 18:50.40 | bluspacecow | i still dunno lol |
| 18:50.43 | Torhal | :D |
| 18:51.01 | bluspacecow | i'm trying not to spoil the expansion in beta |
| 18:51.25 | schnoggo | Downside of addon dev. You get spoiled. |
| 18:51.59 | Amarande | well, what I am aware of is that in MoP we won't be able to fly in Pandaria till we ding 90 |
| 18:52.00 | Torhal | Vladinator: #t/2 ? |
| 18:52.07 | Amarande | I've also heard that it's going to require yet another cash outlay, like Northrend flying did |
| 18:52.17 | Vladinator | guid,count,guid,count,... |
| 18:52.19 | Amarande | and like Azerothian flying did, but I wasn't given a precise price |
| 18:52.31 | Vladinator | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:52.34 | schnoggo | Level 85 prebuilts... get to leveling, Amarande :) |
| 18:52.56 | Vladinator | made this one, more explanatory http://i46.tinypic.com/nutck.jpg |
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| 18:54.37 | Vladinator | corpses despawn in a group, so all involved corpses disappear eventually at once |
| 18:55.41 | Vladinator | if someone wanna send that picture to the devs on the US forum maybe they fix it in time for release :D |
| 18:55.53 | Vladinator | and make it possible to track mobs that drop nothing and money per mob :3 |
| 18:57.16 | Vladinator | am I wrong Torhal? |
| 18:57.32 | schnoggo | Need more screen realestate :) 2 monnitors on the mac. (chatting, api notes, edit screens, terminal) and one on the PC for actual testing. Too crowded... maybe I should put the terminal on the tablet for git... |
| 18:57.54 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/c9gXT |
| 19:00.09 | schnoggo | Launch version will be 50001? |
| 19:00.35 | bluspacecow | or alternatively |
| 19:00.38 | bluspacecow | ponies |
| 19:00.47 | bluspacecow | if they reaallllllllllllllllly want to fuck with our heads |
| 19:02.01 | Vladinator | I feel ignored :< |
| 19:04.06 | Torhal | Vladinator: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6352745843?page=1#10 |
| 19:04.11 | Vladinator | \o/ |
| 19:04.32 | Vladinator | The reason for the wrong info on the cloth |
| 19:04.34 | Vladinator | is because it was 4 first |
| 19:04.40 | Vladinator | but the new npc that added 2 more wasn't counted |
| 19:04.45 | Vladinator | so it kept showing 4 and 0 for new items |
| 19:04.46 | Vladinator | :3 |
| 19:04.53 | schnoggo | doh... some of my addons are still under svn... I _have_ been away for awhile... |
| 19:05.44 | Vladinator | also loot slot 0 should return npcs that died but didn't drop anything, and money slots should return guid and copper value for how much money that npc dropped individually. if you like, post my picture link on the post :3 |
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| 19:11.14 | Vladinator | http://i.imgur.com/TZ1HK.gif lol |
| 19:11.22 | Amarande | Hrm, I guess I should probably actually get on with it and get to 85 |
| 19:11.41 | Amarande | I would have been there by now on this character, but ended up dallying for quite a while with outland stuff :) |
| 19:11.52 | Vladinator | Torhal: thank you for posting for me :) |
| 19:11.58 | Torhal | np |
| 19:12.07 | Torhal | I need this thing fixed :) |
| 19:12.24 | Torhal | Thanks for doing the ledwork :) |
| 19:12.28 | Torhal | leg* |
| 19:12.47 | Vladinator | :P |
| 19:12.52 | Vladinator | http://i.imgur.com/4LhMs.gif win |
| 19:14.33 | Vladinator | http://i.imgur.com/PJncp.jpg |
| 19:20.43 | schnoggo | Which realm are the dev guilds on> |
| 19:20.44 | Vladinator | [[path with \]] or "path with \\" what do you prefer? |
| 19:21.13 | schnoggo | neither, Vladinator. I use mostly linux and mac :) |
| 19:21.36 | Vladinator | !lua [[interface\addons\test]] |
| 19:21.36 | batbot | Vladinator: > interface\addons\test |
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| 19:21.44 | Vladinator | !lua "interface\\addons\\test" |
| 19:21.44 | batbot | Vladinator: > interface\addons\test |
| 19:21.52 | Vladinator | it was a lua question :P |
| 19:22.01 | Vladinator | not related to unix |
| 19:23.38 | Vladinator | was just curious of what people prefer |
| 19:24.22 | wereHamster | can't you also use / ? |
| 19:24.51 | wereHamster | or does wow convert the separator to the platform-specific one (on a mac to /).. |
| 19:25.09 | Vladinator | I've always seen people use \ |
| 19:25.51 | Vladinator | Torhal or Adys probably knows, among others |
| 19:26.06 | schnoggo | I've never used \ for path delimiter. I only use for esacape sequences |
| 19:26.11 | Adys | you can use both if it's a file in the mpq |
| 19:26.20 | Adys | you *cannot* use / if it's a file on the filesystem |
| 19:26.27 | Vladinator | yeah that's what I assumed too |
| 19:28.47 | schnoggo | so I'm guessing double backslash then to avoid escaping confusion |
| 19:28.59 | schnoggo | mapicon = "Interface\\Icons\\INV_Misc_Map_01" |
| 19:29.43 | Torhal | Or [[Interface\Icons\INV_Misc_Map_01]] |
| 19:30.31 | schnoggo | So apparently it doesn't matter then :) |
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| 19:45.58 | Vladinator | it doesn't mater, just ucrious what others used :P |
| 19:46.14 | Vladinator | but it seems people don't use filepaths on their addons since no one had any oppinion :3 |
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| 19:48.50 | bluspacecow | it r sleepy tiems |
| 19:53.17 | Torhal | Vladinator: I use the brackets |
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| 20:10.06 | Kraps | heyo, it is possible to set the maximum download speed of patch data in the wow launcher? |
| 20:11.17 | Yoshimo | you can set it to be limited or unlimited but no exact speed |
| 20:11.59 | Kraps | hey |
| 20:12.01 | Kraps | er |
| 20:12.03 | Kraps | how |
| 20:13.05 | schnoggo | Isn't it just torrent or download now? |
| 20:13.14 | Ressy | Its both... |
| 20:13.24 | Ressy | Torrent vs download, and limited vs unlimited |
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| 20:14.26 | Kraps | limited vs unlimited is the throttle option? |
| 20:14.35 | schnoggo | I don't see a "limited" just peer-to-peer or not |
| 20:14.41 | Kraps | ^ |
| 20:14.50 | Neffi | "don't throttle" |
| 20:14.56 | Ressy | Allow quick play regardless of speed. |
| 20:15.11 | Ressy | That'll throttle in-game downloading |
| 20:15.23 | Ressy | err, downloading while in-game |
| 20:15.26 | Kraps | what about out of game |
| 20:15.41 | schnoggo | ah.. I think the question was about general download rate. |
| 20:15.47 | Ressy | That, you'd have to use something like netlimiter, or set up qos in your router. |
| 20:15.59 | Neffi | Is 5.0.4 being pushed out now? |
| 20:16.03 | Kraps | http://gyazo.com/54c5abf4beed763be00f79220b56d469.png?1345406457 what about this |
| 20:16.23 | Neffi | Kraps: Yes, but that's in-game only |
| 20:16.30 | Kraps | Neffi, has been for a while |
| 20:16.44 | Neffi | Check WoWWiki for a torrent mirror? |
| 20:16.50 | Ressy | actually, that has to do with background downloader.. which can run with/without being ingame |
| 20:16.56 | Neffi | Actually I think Blizzard still hosts .torrent files for patches. Maybe. |
| 20:17.23 | Ressy | You can use blu's links & instructions |
| 20:19.53 | neutronimity | http://seriousbit.com/netbalancer/ |
| 20:20.13 | neutronimity | I use this but frequently despair at the 5-limit |
| 20:20.34 | Yoshimo | they do neffi, but all torrent clients i tried cant handle the extra fields in the blizzard torrents |
| 20:21.15 | wereHamster | Neffi: since when do they host .torrent files? I always had to extract them from the downloader binary |
| 20:21.21 | Kraps | ~320KB gogo |
| 20:21.31 | Kraps | KBs* |
| 20:21.53 | Neffi | I remember a white ago WoWWiki used to have links to .torrent files hosted at worldofwarcraft.com. |
| 20:21.57 | Neffi | while* |
| 20:22.34 | pompy | ~wowwiki |
| 20:22.35 | purl | #REDIRECT [[wowpedia]] |
| 20:22.40 | pompy | Neffi: ^ |
| 20:22.46 | Kraps | heehee |
| 20:22.53 | Neffi | >_> |
| 20:22.59 | Neffi | This was before Wowpedia existed |
| 20:23.20 | Ressy | wowpedia has patch mirrors posted as well.. |
| 20:23.31 | Neffi | Also it's worth checking both, because a lot of people still stick with WoWWiki. It has some content Wowpedia doesn't. |
| 20:23.32 | pompy | >< |
| 20:23.43 | g0urra | Neffi: like what? |
| 20:23.51 | g0urra | I think the content added to wowpedia overshadows wowwiki |
| 20:24.14 | Neffi | I assumed it was forked over on a regular basis, but I've come across API references that were more out of date on WoWWiki |
| 20:24.18 | Neffi | I can't recall specific links |
| 20:24.22 | Ressy | no, it wasn't |
| 20:24.30 | Ressy | It was forked once, and separate ways they went |
| 20:24.45 | Neffi | more out of date on Wowpedia, I meant |
| 20:26.05 | Arrowmaster | kd3: jinrui keeps getting weirder and weirder |
| 20:26.34 | g0urra | API outdated on wowpedia? that can't be true |
| 20:27.39 | Ressy | the main API page for wowwiki has had 4 minor edits since Feb of this year |
| 20:28.02 | Ressy | wowpedia: 17 |
| 20:29.37 | g0urra | @_@ there's 40+ items dropping from the boss in Valley of the Four Winds |
| 20:30.13 | Ressy | lol |
| 20:30.24 | Ressy | have fun with that. |
| 20:30.32 | Ressy | I think I may start working on the cooking. |
| 20:31.06 | g0urra | Ressy: you're talking to the guy who added ability tables to every single pet |
| 20:31.15 | g0urra | and added all raid items |
| 20:31.37 | Kaylin | everyone is my guild is like I need to work on cooking now :( why is this? is it something from beta? |
| 20:31.57 | g0urra | farmville in wow |
| 20:32.16 | Neffi | pokemon, farmville. they're trying here. |
| 20:32.25 | Ressy | I've worked a bit on the tillers-related stuff |
| 20:32.32 | Ressy | nowhere near you tho. lol |
| 20:32.45 | Vladinator | the updater works with torretns, I am sure |
| 20:33.36 | Kaylin | speaking of which, time to seed a bit |
| 20:33.55 | neutronimity | I learned to hate the feeling of insatisfaction |
| 20:34.26 | g0urra | "Facemask of Unrepentany Banditry" what kind of item name is this |
| 20:34.34 | g0urra | Unrepentant* |
| 20:34.42 | Vladinator | where is Remelio? |
| 20:34.44 | Vladinator | ~seen Remelio |
| 20:34.46 | purl | i haven't seen 'remelio', Vladinator |
| 20:35.01 | Kaylin | they're really reaching there @ g0urra. |
| 20:35.10 | Vladinator | he is member #4 on wowi |
| 20:35.24 | g0urra | "Stompers of Vigorous Stomping" rofl |
| 20:35.25 | Neffi | After so long I think they just hacked together a perl script to pull an adjective and verb out of their local dictionary for naming items |
| 20:35.50 | Kaylin | http://xkcd.com/856/ |
| 20:35.53 | Kaylin | basically, that. |
| 20:37.23 | nevcairiel | i think those names sound fine, on the fun side of things |
| 20:37.41 | Neffi | lel |
| 20:38.58 | g0urra | "Treads of Gentle Nudges" |
| 20:38.59 | g0urra | ._. |
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| 21:00.11 | g0urra | http://www.wowpedia.org/Salyis%27s_Warband#Loot |
| 21:00.11 | g0urra | @_@ |
| 21:06.55 | Neffi | Nice to see world bosses making a real comeback |
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| 21:07.27 | Neffi | The only raiding I really ever liked doing was getting a bunch of people from trade to travel to Duskwood or Hinterlands and down the dragons |
| 21:08.55 | g0urra | oh lord. Sha of Anger also drops set items? |
| 21:09.02 | Neffi | Anyone doing anything interesting or new with UIs? The UI community got stale and I need some inspiration to work on nfUI. |
| 21:09.11 | g0urra | seems like it's the MoP version of Baradin Hold |
| 21:16.41 | Cairenn|afk | Vladinator: why are you looking for Remelio? |
| 21:16.49 | Vladinator | curious |
| 21:16.51 | Vladinator | saw him on member list |
| 21:17.08 | Cairenn|afk | He hasn't been around in years and years and years |
| 21:20.09 | Vladinator | I know |
| 21:26.16 | Vladinator | was he awesome? :) |
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| 21:31.12 | Neffi | Question totally unrelated to the channel: how do you guys find new music? |
| 21:31.38 | Stanzilla | youtube |
| 21:31.40 | Stanzilla | streams |
| 21:31.46 | Vladinator | modarchive |
| 21:31.52 | Stanzilla | subscribed playlists in spotify |
| 21:31.57 | Thunder_Child | radio/pandora for me |
| 21:32.08 | Neffi | Oh forgot about Pandora |
| 21:32.52 | Vladinator | pandora is US only |
| 21:33.01 | Neffi | lives in the US. |
| 21:33.09 | Vladinator | ~moon Neffi |
| 21:33.09 | purl | ACTION drops his pants and shows Neffi a full moon. Neffi drops over dead at the sight. |
| 21:33.22 | Neffi | Damn Europeans |
| 21:33.29 | Neffi | ~slap Vladinator |
| 21:33.29 | purl | ACTION slaps Vladinator, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 21:34.05 | Vladinator | ~finger Neffi |
| 21:34.05 | purl | ACTION raises his middle finger to Neffi |
| 21:34.08 | Vladinator | lol |
| 21:34.14 | Vladinator | purl is misbehaving |
| 21:34.15 | Kraps | 10ish hours to d/l the patch |
| 21:35.25 | Neffi | ~kick Vladinator |
| 21:35.25 | purl | ACTION kicks Vladinator |
| 21:38.40 | Neffi | It always feels good when deleting music I don't listen to anymore. Then I realize my collection has dropped to 100 files and I'm sad again. |
| 21:44.51 | Vladinator | blind sight |
| 21:45.09 | Vladinator | interesting condition |
| 21:46.25 | Kraps | when is D3 1.0.4 dropping |
| 21:47.25 | Vladinator | ~shrug Kraps |
| 21:47.50 | Stanzilla | next week |
| 21:47.56 | Kraps | shrug u |
| 21:48.11 | Vladinator | I got bored of D3, is anything fun happening next patch? |
| 21:48.20 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 21:48.24 | Vladinator | :P |
| 21:48.24 | Kraps | yes |
| 21:48.44 | Kraps | monks getting good buffs |
| 21:50.32 | Stanzilla | doesn't matter, game still bad |
| 21:50.43 | Stanzilla | but I'm very interested in those paragon levels that they are adding |
| 21:50.52 | Stanzilla | could be just what kripparian suggested, champion levels |
| 21:51.06 | Kraps | wazzat |
| 21:51.17 | Vladinator | game ended for me when I got to inferno act 2 on my barb |
| 21:51.28 | Vladinator | cba to buy AH gear or farm to kill a boss :P not that nerd |
| 21:52.11 | Vladinator | Vlad is talking smack about D3, Cairenn removes afk tag /shiver |
| 21:52.22 | Cairenn | lol |
| 21:52.25 | Thunder_Child | you are in an irc channel about wow addons....how could you possibly say 'too nerd' |
| 21:52.31 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 21:52.33 | Kraps | ^ |
| 21:52.45 | Vladinator | correction, nolife |
| 21:52.49 | Vladinator | :P |
| 21:53.01 | Stanzilla | Kraps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKEGQeoy6YQ&feature=plcp |
| 21:53.05 | Vladinator | "sadly" I don't got that many hours or find it that fun to do the same thing hundred times :3 |
| 21:53.19 | Thunder_Child | Just wait till you get a job.... |
| 21:53.25 | Kraps | "All valid points. But knowing Blizz and its reputation for ignoring its main population of dedicated gamers over the years, i am pretty sure they wont fix anything he mentioned. Blizz caters to the QQers and casual noobs who play their games." |
| 21:53.33 | Kraps | I KNOW RIGHT????? |
| 21:53.47 | Stanzilla | I think that is the wrong video though |
| 21:54.29 | Vladinator | what? lol |
| 21:54.36 | Kraps | but yeah farming on my monk is bad |
| 21:54.36 | Cairenn | (5:52:41 PM) Vladinator: correction, nolife <== you're in an irc channel about wow addons on a Sunday afternoon ... how could you possibly say 'no life' |
| 21:54.49 | Vladinator | :D |
| 21:56.23 | Vladinator | at least coding an addon isn't the same code over and over again like a farm run for gold/gear is in D3 ^^ |
| 21:58.32 | Vladinator | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_familial_insomnia :'( |
| 21:59.14 | Vladinator | 7 to 18 months of torture then death, christ that must suck |
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| 22:01.35 | kd3 | arrow; you expect jintai to make sense? |
| 22:01.54 | kd3 | though I've gotta admit, ep 7 was one of the better time loops I've seen done |
| 22:02.00 | Vladinator | anime? |
| 22:02.14 | kd3 | jinrui wa suitai shimashita --> humanity has declined |
| 22:03.07 | Vladinator | Torhal: blizz has not yet replied to our post :( |
| 22:03.26 | Kraps | anime~ |
| 22:03.27 | Torhal | Vladinator: Maybe Monday. |
| 22:03.36 | kd3 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinrui_wa_Suitaishimashita |
| 22:04.07 | Kraps | i watched spirited away on thursday/friday |
| 22:04.23 | Neffi | Was it as good as people say? |
| 22:04.25 | Kraps | it was a thing |
| 22:04.43 | Kraps | id say so |
| 22:04.53 | Kraps | its different |
| 22:04.55 | Neffi | is not an anime lover. |
| 22:05.11 | durcyn | miyazaki is damn good, animated or not |
| 22:05.18 | kd3 | ^ |
| 22:08.14 | Arrowmaster | kd3: wait till you see ep8 |
| 22:12.36 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 22:12.43 | kd3 | 'lo |
| 22:16.40 | Kraps | where are you guys watching it |
| 22:17.38 | kd3 | watching...? |
| 22:17.44 | Vladinator | ... |
| 22:17.50 | kd3 | jintai's on torrents |
| 22:18.31 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/AddOn_Studio_2010 |
| 22:18.35 | g0urra | what is this I don't even |
| 22:19.47 | Neffi | For people who are utterly convinced Notepad++ is not enough, and IDEs produce better code |
| 22:21.24 | g0urra | does anyone here actually use it? |
| 22:21.49 | Neffi | I tried the really old version back in like 1.11 or something |
| 22:22.06 | Neffi | Pretty much when it just built really bad XML templates for you |
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| 22:24.35 | Kraps | kd3, i mean humanity has declined |
| 22:26.04 | Vladinator | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xry342A-utI :D |
| 22:27.46 | Vladinator | frilled sharks look kind of cool |
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| 22:34.43 | Vladinator | I promisse I am going offline soon, quickie, how does election work, using punch cards? |
| 22:35.51 | Arrowmaster | depends on the district |
| 22:36.17 | Vladinator | because it doesn't seem they are that accurate |
| 22:36.39 | Arrowmaster | they arent in the US because of all the voter fraud |
| 22:36.58 | kd3 | not that electronic voting machines are much better |
| 22:36.59 | kd3 | >.> |
| 22:37.44 | Arrowmaster | majority of the voter fraud is done on the absentee balots for people that can show up at the voting location on the day of election |
| 22:37.50 | Arrowmaster | cant |
| 22:37.58 | mckenziemc | slaps kd3 around a bit with a paper ballot. |
| 22:40.07 | Vladinator | I remember hearging a long time ago that in bulgaria people who voted for a specific party then took their receipt outside to some shady guys they paid them for voting for "their guy" :P lol |
| 22:42.03 | Vladinator | anything shady going on some places or? ^^ |
| 22:52.32 | bleeter | ~emulate bleeter |
| 22:52.32 | purl | ACTION rant RANT rant waaa MOAR COFFEE <sub>GOOD IDEA</sub>rant waa MOAR COFFEE rant rant MOAR MOAR <blink><h1>terribad idea</h1></blink> rant |
| 22:54.22 | Vladinator | ~emulate Vladinator |
| 22:54.36 | Vladinator | :( |
| 22:57.58 | Vladinator | is it true that there was a list of felons that couldn't vote in 2000 but that list was longer than it should have been? or is it a part of the movie :P |
| 22:58.28 | Kaylin | what movie? |
| 22:58.30 | Thunder_Child | google is your friend |
| 22:58.59 | Vladinator | its recount from 2008, not always easy to figure out what is truth and what is movie :P |
| 22:59.08 | Vladinator | just figured maybe you guys know more since you live in US :P |
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| 23:01.42 | Arrowmaster | Vladinator: i think in 2004 some people couldnt vote in flordia just because they had the same name as a felon |
| 23:01.49 | Vladinator | yeah |
| 23:01.57 | Vladinator | I had some faint recollection but wasn't sure |
| 23:03.55 | Vladinator | why did people want the manual countings to stop? |
| 23:04.25 | Arrowmaster | theres 3 main forms of voter fraud in the US, the main legal one is contant redrawing of the voting districts whenever power shifts, then theres disenfranchisement, and then downright fraud mostly in the form of absentee balot tampering and tampering in other forms like electronic voting machines |
| 23:04.43 | Kaylin | ^ |
| 23:05.50 | Thunder_Child | I dont think i would classify jerrymandering as 'fraud' |
| 23:06.17 | Arrowmaster | its as close to fraud as stacking the deck is to cheating in poker |
| 23:06.37 | Kaylin | more like counting cards, legal but frowned upon |
| 23:07.00 | Arrowmaster | yeah, but it is essentially stacking the deck |
| 23:07.03 | Vladinator | I like how interpreting the law is so biased in this movie, lol |
| 23:07.18 | Vladinator | feels like what is morally right is thrown out the window :P |
| 23:07.59 | Arrowmaster | disenfranchisement is the current hot topic in the news |
| 23:08.21 | Arrowmaster | garymandering rarely gets talked about since it happens so far in advance |
| 23:08.57 | Kaylin | like needing to have ID to vote when it took me 1 month to find my valid ID last time to buy liqour? |
| 23:09.00 | Arrowmaster | the downright fraud will start being talked about on election day |
| 23:09.48 | Arrowmaster | somebody said they were denyed a voter ID in PA because they still have a valid out of state license |
| 23:09.52 | Vladinator | in norway you show ID and I think there was a routine to double check that no ID is repeated twice and such. |
| 23:10.03 | Arrowmaster | but that out of state license isnt valid for voting |
| 23:11.12 | Arrowmaster | have you seen how they make sure nobody votes twice in the less developed countries? stick a finger in a bucket of ink, it wont come off for days but is so simple |
| 23:11.28 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 23:12.12 | Kaylin | no we need anti grav space pens |
| 23:12.26 | mckenziemc | o.o? |
| 23:12.29 | Arrowmaster | here its all about making sure everybody has proper id to prevent them from voting twice, when really its just a form of disenfranchisement |
| 23:13.05 | Kraps | so |
| 23:13.08 | Vladinator | since 2011 in norway they are working on electronic elections |
| 23:13.10 | Vladinator | :3 |
| 23:13.38 | Vladinator | the entire system and sourcode is publicly available for anyone to see, hehe |
| 23:13.53 | Arrowmaster | its so obvious now that the 2004 US election was rigged by the electronic voting machines |
| 23:14.45 | Arrowmaster | and it was obvious it was going to happen since the owner/ceo??? of diabold said he would do whatever it took to make sure bush won |
| 23:15.17 | Kaylin | doesn't want to have this discussion again. |
| 23:15.42 | Kaylin | in fact, I want to have mac and cheese. |
| 23:16.40 | Vladinator | :D |
| 23:16.48 | Vladinator | I am just curious |
| 23:17.15 | Vladinator | is there any penalty if involved in frauds or scandals? |
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| 23:17.57 | Vladinator | *:D |
| 23:21.29 | Vladinator | arrow |
| 23:21.33 | Vladinator | your ISP is watching you |
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| 23:31.52 | Vladinator | it's strange, it's day in US but so silent here :P |
| 23:31.58 | Vladinator | ~time |
| 23:31.58 | purl | from memory, time is 1 dimensional, or everlasting, an illusion, or 2012.08.19 23:31:58 GMT |
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| 23:32.33 | Vladinator | I guess it's about six o'clock |
| 23:32.47 | Neffi | 7:32 EST |
| 23:33.14 | pompy | its 2:33p-7:33pm right now in teh us ;) |
| 23:35.09 | Vladinator | EST? |
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| 23:35.40 | Vladinator | much easier if we just had GMT or CET and +- xD |
| 23:36.02 | Vladinator | GMT-8 = EST I estimate |
| 23:36.14 | Cairenn | no |
| 23:36.28 | Thunder_Child | Vladinator: weekends in here are usually quiet |
| 23:36.36 | Thunder_Child | als -8 is pst |
| 23:36.40 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 23:36.41 | Thunder_Child | also* |
| 23:36.45 | Cairenn | est is -5 |
| 23:36.46 | Vladinator | oh lord |
| 23:36.49 | Neffi | It's sunday. People are praising.. the TV. |
| 23:36.52 | Vladinator | let's give each GMT-# a name :P |
| 23:37.06 | Thunder_Child | execpt for cali which goes from -7 -8 because we are retarded |
| 23:37.18 | Thunder_Child | stupid dst |
| 23:37.24 | Kaylin | PST/PDT |
| 23:37.54 | Kraps | east coast = beast coast |
| 23:38.07 | Vladinator | you mean east coast = best coast |
| 23:38.14 | pompy | yeah Vladinator: 7:38pm on trhe east coast |
| 23:38.34 | pompy | 1:38pm in hawaii! |
| 23:38.34 | Cairenn | Not in Canada |
| 23:39.02 | Cairenn | east coast in Canada is ast/adt, and it's 8:38pm there |
| 23:39.30 | Vladinator | lol |
| 23:39.46 | Vladinator | why not just use GMT since that's what's the "base" anyway, GMT+0 |
| 23:40.01 | *** join/#wowuidev Arrowmaster (~arrow@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ResponsibleForEverythingAndNothing/Arrowmaster) |
| 23:40.02 | Neffi | Oh god. They sell FreeBSD boxers. |
| 23:40.22 | Kaylin | are they freE? |
| 23:40.29 | Neffi | For $.75 no less. I'm replacing all my crotchwear with FreeBSD soon. |
| 23:40.55 | Neffi | LOL - only sizes are XL, XXL, XXXL and XXS |
| 23:41.04 | Neffi | What does that say about the community? >_> |
| 23:41.34 | Kaylin | women and huge guys? |
| 23:41.57 | Arrowmaster | whats wrong with that? |
| 23:42.00 | Neffi | I assumed young 1337 h4x0r teens. I don't think we have women in that community. |
| 23:42.15 | Neffi | Arrowmaster: I'm unwanted because I'm not very big or small. |
| 23:42.21 | Vladinator | correction, seems UTC Is the standard, GMT is "outdated" :P |
| 23:42.23 | Vladinator | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Standart_Time_Zones_2012.png |
| 23:44.32 | Corrodias | fucking time zones |
| 23:45.00 | Vladinator | I know, it's easiest to use UTC+# format, since the other weird names are too limiting |
| 23:45.28 | Jammer | most annoying thing is the daylight saving, can't really know if people including it or not :p |
| 23:45.40 | Vladinator | the standard is to write parenthesis |
| 23:45.42 | Corrodias | double-fucking daylight saving time |
| 23:45.44 | Vladinator | UTC+1(2) |
| 23:45.50 | Neffi | Why does that continue to exist anyway? |
| 23:45.54 | Vladinator | means it's +1 but it's DST now so it's 2 atm |
| 23:46.45 | Vladinator | if I tell you I am 1.75 meters high, do you need to look it up? xD |
| 23:48.41 | Kaylin | no I need to look down. |
| 23:49.51 | Vladinator | oh you funny imperical guy |
| 23:50.08 | Kaylin | is 194cm |
| 23:50.49 | Vladinator | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:50.58 | Kaylin | backs away slowly. |
| 23:51.02 | kd3 | lol |
| 23:51.08 | Vladinator | ~follow Kaylin |
| 23:51.25 | Thunder_Child | so they do more drugs than you? |
| 23:51.38 | Torhal | lol |
| 23:52.08 | Hazal | is worried |
| 23:52.13 | Vladinator | :( |
| 23:53.24 | Vladinator | I am against drugs :3 |
| 23:54.54 | Thunder_Child | just wait till you want some painkillers, then you will change your mind |
| 23:55.01 | A-KO | man, Windows 8 is so snappy |
| 23:55.25 | Vladinator | there is a huge difference to take stuff to just feel good and to relieve pain :P |
| 23:56.13 | Vladinator | I meant I am against stuff like cannabis |
| 23:56.35 | *** join/#wowuidev Arrowmaster (~arrow@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ResponsibleForEverythingAndNothing/Arrowmaster) |
| 23:56.35 | Vladinator | A-KO do you like W8? |
| 23:58.57 | Neffi | Vladinator: Ever try it? |
| 23:59.00 | Vladinator | no |
| 23:59.07 | Vladinator | gotta ask people that have :P |
| 23:59.14 | Neffi | Vladinator: Ever done real research on its effects on the human body and mind? |
| 23:59.43 | Torhal | Neffi: I have. And then I ate a whole fucking bag of Doritos. |
| 23:59.45 | Vladinator | lol I thought you meant W8 :P anyway, I just don't like on purpose affecting the body just to feel good |
