| 00:02.13 | NickG365 | So, I happened to stumble upon Ten Ton Hammer's (parent company's) phone number... |
| 00:03.11 | Arrowmaster | Game Masters International? |
| 00:03.37 | NickG365 | Well, Master Games International Inc . Not very hard to find, really. |
| 00:03.51 | Arrowmaster | might not be the same |
| 00:04.20 | Arrowmaster | oh wait yeah it is Master Games |
| 00:04.45 | Ressy | 1 830 510 4211 fax: 1 830 535 6629 |
| 00:06.06 | Ressy | I can call Convoke and ask if they respond to DMCA requests... :) |
| 00:07.02 | NickG365 | Heh, guess if Ten Ton doesn't clean up within the 10 days, that would be worth a try. They haven't stolen any of my work (yet) though. Probably because I haven't updated recently. |
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| 00:09.16 | Arrowmaster | NickG365: 10 days doesnt apply to them |
| 00:10.18 | Arrowmaster | their employees did the uploading, they fucked up seriously bad |
| 00:12.26 | NickG365 | Ah, right, that only covers them if they weren't fully aware it was there illegally. Either way, with how they've acknowledged the situation, they should've taken care of it by now. They're only hurting themselves more every day they let this continue. |
| 00:12.58 | Torhal | I think "asshole form a hole in the ground" fits here. |
| 00:13.09 | Torhal | Especially with the whole null-cross for the past day and a half. |
| 00:13.13 | mckenziemc | is it becaues they were aware or because the uploads weren't from third parties |
| 00:13.27 | Arrowmaster | both |
| 00:13.34 | Torhal | They kowingly broke copyright. |
| 00:13.39 | Torhal | knowingly* |
| 00:13.50 | Torhal | And they're being such idiotic pricks about it. |
| 00:13.50 | mckenziemc | well i know that |
| 00:14.01 | Arrowmaster | the dmca protects from 3rd parties uploading copyright content as long as you follow the procedures to remove it when notified |
| 00:14.03 | mckenziemc | just don't know the details of how DMCA works :p |
| 00:14.05 | NickG365 | I've never really been part of their community, but I've been on the site a couple times over the past few years, never would've expected such a stupid idea from such a long-running site. |
| 00:14.55 | Arrowmaster | i dont recall which one but one of the file locker sites got busted bigtime because its staff was uploading copyright content |
| 00:15.49 | Arrowmaster | if you got enough effected authors to go with it, you could sue TTH and win over 1mil in damages right now |
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| 00:25.58 | Adys | what do you call a single point of failure that's present in multiple places? (worst case scenario of a pof) |
| 00:26.30 | Adys | as in, an identical point of failure repeated multiple times throughout the system, where if just one breaks the whole system goes down |
| 00:26.52 | Adys | like the old-style xmas lights |
| 00:27.07 | TC-Work | a Vulnerability |
| 00:27.23 | Adys | a vulnerability is a single point of failure |
| 00:28.25 | Adys | my use case is: you have one password, with multiple places where you can get it stolen *and* you lose access to all the places if you get it stolen |
| 00:28.48 | TC-Work | i dont think systemic vulnerablility fits |
| 00:28.53 | NickG365 | How about not having backups? |
| 00:29.10 | kd3 | whistles at the wow blogpost |
| 00:29.25 | Adys | NickG365: a backup is post-failure recovery |
| 00:29.30 | TC-Work | heh, it's a redundant failur |
| 00:29.32 | Adys | im talking about pre-failure |
| 00:29.33 | TC-Work | failure* |
| 00:29.40 | Adys | redundant failure sounds nice |
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| 00:30.56 | mckenziemc | it's called Torhal |
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| 00:32.08 | prencher | that was oddly comedic timing |
| 00:32.09 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 00:32.22 | Adys | Torhal: you've been POF'd |
| 00:33.12 | prencher | Adys: Around here we've been calling that sigrie :) |
| 00:33.20 | Adys | prencher: ho ho |
| 00:33.33 | Adys | prencher: get me the latest questcache structure |
| 00:34.10 | Torhal | Adys: Huh? |
| 00:34.17 | Torhal | Oh |
| 00:34.23 | Adys | <Adys> redundant failure sounds nice |
| 00:34.23 | Adys | <mckenziemc> it's called Torhal |
| 00:34.23 | Adys | <-- Torhal (~torhal@c-71-207-224-241.hsd1.al.comcast.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 00:34.41 | Torhal | stabs mckenziemc with a Saran-wrapped Fisker. |
| 00:35.04 | NickG365 | Sounds hot. |
| 00:35.08 | kd3 | hey, don't waste perfectly good saran wrap |
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| 00:36.12 | Adys | prencher: im serious btw, i need that structure :( |
| 00:37.02 | prencher | Adys: Should ask nicoli_s, he wrote something maintainable ;) |
| 00:37.11 | Adys | prencher: mine's extremely maintainable |
| 00:37.25 | Adys | don't .. look at the code though |
| 00:37.28 | Torhal | Hah |
| 00:37.31 | kd3 | hahaha |
| 00:37.56 | Adys | dude you laugh |
| 00:37.56 | nicoli_s | ? |
| 00:38.04 | Adys | https://github.com/Adys/pywow/blob/master/wdbc/structures/main.py |
| 00:38.06 | Adys | these are mine :P |
| 00:38.10 | Adys | i remember wowhead's |
| 00:38.19 | Adys | they were just a string of the structure |
| 00:38.34 | Adys | eg. "iiiiiiiiiiiiiiffffiiiiiiiissiiiiiifi" |
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| 00:38.54 | nicoli_s | ha yeah |
| 00:39.13 | Adys | If Kalroth were here he'd say "It's so bad it even sounds like python" |
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| 00:40.05 | Adys | prencher: gimme a break though, some of my code dates from my first few python scripts |
| 00:40.16 | Adys | and every time I wanted to refactor I'd get the "we dont need to" |
| 00:40.35 | TC-Work | Adys: reduant symetrical vulnerability. |
| 00:40.39 | TC-Work | and i'm spent |
| 00:40.44 | Adys | TC-Work: 10 points |
| 00:40.53 | prencher | Adys: I jest |
| 00:41.15 | TC-Work | Adys: There really should be a word for that |
| 00:41.15 | Adys | prencher: ive been working on it on my spare time stil but i barely have any |
| 00:41.20 | Adys | i did update mfils and such |
| 00:41.27 | Adys | TC-Work: now there is, thanks to you! |
| 00:41.37 | TC-Work | thats not 'A' word |
| 00:41.52 | TC-Work | there might be in another language though |
| 00:42.22 | Adys | "a word" can signify a non-coumpound group of words in English |
| 00:42.32 | TC-Work | thats a phrase |
| 00:42.36 | Amarande | There's already the word though, it's bird. :) |
| 00:42.55 | Adys | what is this, 2007? |
| 00:43.03 | TC-Work | no, it's 2012 |
| 00:43.07 | TC-Work | you know, end of the world |
| 00:43.19 | Amarande | and we might still be staring at sindragosa when it comes, at this rate heh |
| 00:43.20 | TC-Work | as we know it |
| 00:43.22 | TC-Work | and i feel fine |
| 00:43.43 | Adys | how do you relate *everything* to wow |
| 00:43.43 | kd3 | grr. need a wireless nic that doesn't use r8712 |
| 00:43.50 | Adys | even an obscure reference you made yourself |
| 00:43.58 | Amarande | btw apparently, in fact, we came within a *whisker* of US civilisation as we know it coming to an end a few months ago |
| 00:44.13 | Adys | uh no |
| 00:44.29 | Adys | its not possible for us civilization to come to an end since.. its long gone |
| 00:44.30 | Amarande | Adys: from what I heard from a guy at work, the solar flares were just below apocalypse level |
| 00:44.31 | Amarande | *just* |
| 00:44.43 | Torhal | Fun fact: Amarande wrote the longest lines, averaging 105.4 letters per line. |
| 00:44.49 | mckenziemc | "from a guy at work" ... |
| 00:44.51 | Adys | they're like that every other week |
| 00:44.56 | TC-Work | Adys: not sure i would call it 'obscure' |
| 00:45.08 | Adys | TC-Work: its obscure for 2012 |
| 00:45.10 | Amarande | something about someone having electronics that didn't work correctly, yet the fuses were fine |
| 00:45.15 | Amarande | and apparently, it turned out to be EMP |
| 00:45.18 | TC-Work | Adys: if you say so |
| 00:45.23 | Amarande | which means ... a little stronger on that flare and *bye* |
| 00:45.44 | Vladinator | lol, first to register on curseforge as 12.jan 05, I registered 6.aug 05 so not THAT late :3 |
| 00:45.56 | Adys | it reminds me of that blog post |
| 00:46.21 | Adys | of the guy who tracked a single bit error all the way down to memory corruption |
| 00:46.28 | Adys | from some obscure error he was getting |
| 00:46.42 | Amarande | Adys: some bad RAM will do that |
| 00:46.57 | Amarande | I remember having a dodgy DIMM that didn't seem to show any problems except in Guild Wars, WoW, and memtest86+ |
| 00:46.59 | Adys | i dont remember what it was, the blog post was called attack of the solar flares or something |
| 00:47.04 | Amarande | and not even in WoW till 2.4, 2.3 was fine |
| 00:47.38 | Amarande | I kept blaming it on the video driver until I finally broke down and ran memtest, because it didn't seem anything else was having issues |
| 00:48.57 | Adys | https://blogs.oracle.com/ksplice/entry/attack_of_the_cosmic_rays1 |
| 00:48.58 | Adys | tah dah |
| 00:49.11 | Arrowmaster | ram can be like that at times, and its why memtest lets you run the test in a loop until you stop it |
| 00:49.12 | Adys | huh, its an oracle blogpost |
| 00:49.25 | Vladinator | gn |
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| 00:51.41 | kd3 | grr |
| 00:52.00 | kd3 | anyone have any good usb wireless NICs that don't use r8712 for their driver? |
| 00:53.24 | Adys | kd3: yea |
| 00:53.25 | TC-Work | isnt 'good' and 'usb nic' an oxymoron? |
| 00:53.25 | Adys | sec |
| 00:53.45 | kd3 | read good as 'anything other than chips that rely on drivers in /staging |
| 00:53.50 | kd3 | ' |
| 00:53.51 | Adys | kd3: there was one that looked awesome that popped on /r/linuxquestions .. sec |
| 00:53.56 | TC-Work | i used to connect to a router via usb for some reason i cant remember and it was shiiiiit |
| 00:54.38 | Adys | kd3: http://www.dealextreme.com/p/mini-100mw-150mbps-ieee802-11b-g-n-usb-wifi-wireless-network-adapter-w-antenna-black-117398 |
| 00:54.51 | Amarande | Arrow: yeah, but until then, I didn't even really think of the RAM, I kept thinking it must be drivers |
| 00:55.09 | Amarande | although my consistent failure to make a slipstream CD for XP might have been a tipoff :| |
| 00:55.52 | Dagmar | there are so many things wrong with that Wifi device... |
| 00:56.06 | Adys | [01:55:38] <Dagmar> there are so many things wrong with all Wifi device... |
| 00:56.15 | Dagmar | No, that one in particular is highly questionable |
| 00:56.23 | Dagmar | One antenna, no 5Ghz transciever |
| 00:56.39 | Sintacks | Cairenn, do you have to do the "quiz" to be eligiable for the headset thing with the survey |
| 00:56.43 | Dagmar | I dunno how they can pretend to hit 150Mbps |
| 00:56.48 | Cairenn | yes |
| 00:57.01 | Sintacks | damn. i'm-a fail the quiz ;D |
| 00:57.03 | Cairenn | I thought that was pretty obvious from what we posted |
| 00:57.18 | Cairenn | As well, we have a bonus prize exclusively for our registered users. We have 80 (yes, you read that right, 80) headsets we are giving away. All you have to do is take a 30 question survey to be entered for your chance to win a GameCom 380 Headset. Once you get through the trivia challenge, be sure to do the survey and be entered for a chance to win. |
| 00:57.27 | Cairenn | isn't sure where the confusion is :p |
| 00:57.42 | Adys | Sintacks: im guessing its a survey, not a quiz |
| 00:58.01 | Adys | i dont really know whats up with that |
| 00:58.09 | Cairenn | errr, survey, not quiz |
| 00:58.09 | Adys | the popularity of surveys with marketeers is going way up |
| 00:58.35 | Adys | Cairenn: whats it about? |
| 00:58.42 | Sintacks | I did the survey, I didn't do the "quiz" |
| 00:58.43 | Cairenn | gaming |
| 00:58.55 | Cairenn | Sintacks: what quiz? the trivia challenge? |
| 00:58.58 | Sintacks | yeah that thing |
| 00:58.59 | Sintacks | whatever |
| 00:59.02 | Sintacks | quiz. trivia |
| 00:59.03 | Sintacks | same thing |
| 00:59.04 | Sintacks | .>, |
| 00:59.06 | Cairenn | no |
| 00:59.08 | Sintacks | >.<* |
| 00:59.11 | Cairenn | but anyway |
| 00:59.34 | Cairenn | if you want to have a chance for the other prizes on the site, yes |
| 00:59.43 | Cairenn | each correct answer gives you an entry |
| 01:00.04 | Sintacks | I don't care for those. I just want a headset... cuz mine is a piece of dog poo |
| 01:00.44 | Cairenn | You could also do the trivia stuff just ... you know ... for fun? |
| 01:00.56 | Sintacks | lol |
| 01:01.08 | Sintacks | I'd get like.. 2 entries |
| 01:01.08 | Cairenn | all of this is supposed to be for fun :p |
| 01:01.13 | Cairenn | so? |
| 01:02.25 | Arrowmaster | kd3: i got my neighbor one of these and it works great but i have no clue what chipset it uses http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=105&cp_id=10501&cs_id=1050109&p_id=8076&seq=1&format=2 |
| 01:02.57 | Sintacks | k. i did it. no idea how bad i did |
| 01:03.00 | Sintacks | lol |
| 01:03.28 | Arrowmaster | kd3: oh wait it says on the tech specs page Ralink RT2770 + RT2720 |
| 01:03.35 | kd3 | yah |
| 01:06.42 | Arrowmaster | kd3: fedora would have the firmware blobs right? |
| 01:06.48 | kd3 | probably |
| 01:07.20 | Arrowmaster | http://wiki.debian.org/rt2800usb says on debian to just install the firmware-ralink package and everything will work |
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| 01:09.19 | Arrowmaster | kd3: one of the reviews says it works great on ubuntu 11.10 |
| 01:10.58 | Arrowmaster | if you want to risk getting it and testing to see how good the drivers are, i can at least vouch that the build quality is good and its reception is amazing |
| 01:11.30 | Unkle | Wi-Fi NIC ? |
| 01:11.31 | Torhal | Shadowed: Did they ever tell you exactly what "code" they wanted put on your AddOns' pages? |
| 01:12.13 | Arrowmaster | Unkle: yes |
| 01:12.46 | Shadowed | Torhal it was just an id code |
| 01:13.10 | Torhal | Shadowed: Someone speculated that it might be some kind of shady SEO. |
| 01:13.14 | Torhal | So, was curious. |
| 01:14.11 | Shadowed | uh |
| 01:14.14 | Shadowed | whoever that person is, is stupid |
| 01:14.19 | Shadowed | and you should tell them that |
| 01:15.08 | Torhal | I think I'll spare her. |
| 01:15.35 | Shadowed | I assume it's because they don't want to have people PMing |
| 01:15.40 | Shadowed | or they risk getting banned |
| 01:18.02 | Shadowed | oh hey they now hide comments by default on the news page |
| 01:18.03 | Shadowed | hilarious |
| 01:18.10 | Torhal | Yah |
| 01:18.14 | Torhal | I thought they deeted them all |
| 01:18.17 | Torhal | deleted* |
| 01:20.16 | Adys | brain dump on 3rd party auth: https://plus.google.com/116965050091309960242/posts/WipTULKMKXG |
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| 01:30.36 | alestane | http://www.theonion.com/articles/coworker-with-two-computer-screens-not-fucking-aro,29151/?ref=auto |
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| 01:43.13 | Adys_ | "New API severely restricts third-party Twitter applications" |
| 01:43.14 | Adys_ | haha |
| 01:43.37 | Adys | 10 bucks an old client i made a twitter analytics tool for is going to come back to me in tears |
| 01:44.16 | Adys | qed. don't run your business on top of other people's businesses |
| 01:46.36 | Adys | jesus fucking christ |
| 01:46.45 | TC-Work | didnt that conversation come up reciently Adys? |
| 01:46.55 | TC-Work | recently* |
| 01:46.57 | Adys | pwnium 2 awards are up to 2 million dollars for a successful chrome hacker |
| 01:47.13 | TC-Work | 60K is the max you can get at once |
| 01:47.25 | TC-Work | and thats exploiting chrome with it's own code |
| 01:47.30 | Adys | successful chrome hackers* |
| 01:47.34 | Adys | yea |
| 01:47.47 | Adys | and you can claim more than $60k |
| 01:47.54 | Adys | its $60k per hack, not per person |
| 01:48.05 | TC-Work | thats at once to me |
| 01:48.16 | TC-Work | you geven get $$ for failures/attempts |
| 01:48.20 | TC-Work | even* |
| 01:49.29 | p3lim | Ooooh the comments are heating up again |
| 01:49.40 | p3lim | gets some popcorn |
| 01:50.03 | Adys | p3lim: which? |
| 01:50.15 | p3lim | WoA thingie |
| 01:50.27 | Adys | "There's nothing I feel like doing outside that won't get me arrested." |
| 01:50.45 | p3lim | Sssh don't spoil the ending |
| 01:53.29 | Arrowmaster | im not seeing any new comments |
| 01:53.41 | Arrowmaster | their site backend sucks |
| 01:53.56 | p3lim | It's page 3 now |
| 01:54.10 | Arrowmaster | its been page 3 |
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| 01:55.48 | p3lim | Last time I looked it was still page 2, I don't live in the US |
| 01:56.43 | prencher | that's right, other regions get the comments later |
| 01:57.22 | Arrowmaster | i would except that as a valid answer right now with how shitty this sites caching system is |
| 01:57.25 | p3lim | More so that I am not avake when it happens |
| 01:57.38 | p3lim | awake* |
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| 02:02.42 | ajmitch | tries to stop reading the WoA train wreck but just can't |
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| 02:06.37 | alestane | Don't wanna stare but you can't look away? |
| 02:07.11 | ajmitch | it's good entertainment though, reading their justifications |
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| 02:11.50 | Mr_Rabies | "Help us celebrate our 10 year anniversary with our trivia challenage" |
| 02:12.08 | Mr_Rabies | :p |
| 02:12.26 | prencher | "How does copyright work?" |
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| 02:18.13 | Torhal | prencher: "How is AddOn formed?" |
| 02:18.16 | Torhal | lol |
| 02:19.11 | Cairenn | Mr_Rabies: ? |
| 02:19.25 | Mr_Rabies | that's what it says up top, Cairenn |
| 02:19.34 | Mr_Rabies | on wowi |
| 02:19.44 | Torhal | Cairenn: Misspelled "challenge" |
| 02:20.09 | Cairenn | crapola |
| 02:20.53 | Cairenn | ah, I see |
| 02:21.06 | Mr_Rabies | oh, sorry |
| 02:21.20 | Mr_Rabies | i forgot to point out the mistake directly :p |
| 02:21.29 | Cairenn | no worries |
| 02:21.33 | Cairenn | I found it now |
| 02:23.06 | Cairenn | thanks for pointing it out :) |
| 02:24.54 | Kraps | i needs a way to instain code |
| 02:24.58 | Kraps | it* |
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| 03:06.25 | Torhal | ccox: Info update - they have no DMCA agent. Even if they did, DMCA protects them against third-parties uploading copyrighted materials. In this case, THEY knowingly broke the law and are refusing to make it right. |
| 03:06.49 | ccox | correct, and they have admitted to their breach of law |
| 03:07.17 | Torhal | I think they're all on some really heavy drugs or live in a parallel dimension. |
| 03:07.34 | ajmitch | yet they still want to verify every removal request, all the while saying how disappointed they are that you're a big meanie |
| 03:07.47 | ccox | if they have no DMCA agent, then notices go to their hosting service, I believe. The hosting service should contact them and make sure the materials are removed. IIRC sites that do not comply, get shut down. |
| 03:08.19 | ccox | And if the DMCA requests are not handled within a week, law enforcement should be contacted. |
| 03:08.58 | prencher | everyone should be encouraged to talk to their host in that case, given their attempts at stonewalling people when talking to them directly, even with dmca takedown requests |
| 03:09.00 | Cairenn | I just remain completely boggled by they way they are doing things. |
| 03:09.14 | mckenziemc | gives Cairenn a hug |
| 03:09.49 | Adys | "I like the idea that the solution to running out of disk space to store DNA sequences is to store them in DNA sequences. It would put all other examples of recursion to shame." |
| 03:10.05 | Cairenn | They can (and have admitted) upload ARR files without permission, but they won't remove those files unless the original author *proves* that they are the author. |
| 03:10.16 | Cairenn | excuse me? |
| 03:10.19 | ajmitch | wonders why they think anyone will trust them from now on |
| 03:10.37 | Cairenn | along with these two lines: |
| 03:10.38 | ajmitch | Cairenn: they seem to have forgotten that burden of proof is on them, not the person who holds copyright |
| 03:10.55 | Cairenn | "DMCA allows for 10 days to blah blah blah" |
| 03:10.56 | Cairenn | and |
| 03:11.06 | nebula169 | when has tth ever done something sane? lol |
| 03:11.14 | prencher | Cairenn: I think the best part is their mouthpiece attempting to plant the seed that it's all just curse & zam employees badmouthing them, and we're trying to undermine them.. no, you're doing a pretty good job all on your own with that |
| 03:11.54 | Cairenn | "It will take some time after we have verified that you are the author before we can remove your files since there are so many of these requests flooding in" |
| 03:12.03 | Cairenn | (not the exact words, I know, but ...) |
| 03:12.15 | Adys | For a few thousand bucks, I know a senator that'll raid their house with helicopters and kick their pregnant wives in the chest. |
| 03:12.20 | Adys | if you want. that is. |
| 03:12.50 | Cairenn | I'm sorry, it takes how long to have one single person go to "search file description, key word All Rights Reserved", if yes, hit delete |
| 03:12.53 | Cairenn | next file ... |
| 03:13.45 | Cairenn | I could check every single file (the 800-ish) with a day |
| 03:13.54 | Cairenn | if they supposedly have this full staff of people .... |
| 03:14.36 | Cairenn | the onus is on them, not the authors |
| 03:14.59 | Cairenn | if it says ARR and they don't have a written permission from the author, then it shouldn't be on their site, period. |
| 03:14.59 | prencher | not to worry, they're verifying all files with staff.. you know, except all the files they scraped |
| 03:15.24 | Cairenn | It just continues to boggle me |
| 03:15.29 | Torhal | Cairenn: Didn't you say that the "upload an addon" thing made it go live immediately? No moderation queue? |
| 03:15.45 | ajmitch | there's a certain degree of insanity going on there |
| 03:16.05 | Torhal | ajmitch: Mass insanity, apparently. |
| 03:16.05 | mckenziemc | but Torhal, think of the users! |
| 03:16.07 | Torhal | Hive insanity. |
| 03:16.14 | Cairenn | I assume you guys have seen the thing they added to the 'author' page? |
| 03:16.15 | Cairenn | http://www.worldofaddons.com/authors |
| 03:16.23 | Torhal | thinks of the users when he tosses mckenziemc into a wood chipper. |
| 03:16.27 | Torhal | Yah |
| 03:16.30 | Torhal | I laughed my ass off |
| 03:16.34 | Torhal | We're all fucking shills! |
| 03:16.53 | Cairenn | and the thing about files going live immediately is here: |
| 03:16.55 | Cairenn | http://www.worldofaddons.com/faq/updating-your-addon |
| 03:17.07 | prencher | Even ignoring that complete show of professionalism™, this part is the one that really gets me: "(via PMs and three separate emails, the final one being an opt-out)" |
| 03:17.19 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 03:17.20 | prencher | "the final one being an opt-out" |
| 03:17.21 | Torhal | Cairenn: Oh, that's sooooo bad. |
| 03:17.36 | Cairenn | opt-out is just ... wrong |
| 03:18.03 | Cairenn | " Once this is completed click the save button and your new addon release will be up and ready for users to download." |
| 03:18.04 | prencher | s/wrong/illegal/ |
| 03:18.14 | Torhal | waits for mikma to wonder again why we're all still so upset about this. |
| 03:18.18 | mckenziemc | both prencher |
| 03:18.28 | prencher | one implies the other ;) |
| 03:18.35 | mckenziemc | no |
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| 03:19.32 | mckenziemc | and that could be used to argue your substitution wasn't needed :p |
| 03:19.48 | Torhal | argues with mckenziemc because he seems to enjoy it. |
| 03:20.11 | prencher | illegal implies wrong, wrong does not imply illegal; illegal would be the very definition of "wrong" as determined by law |
| 03:20.12 | mckenziemc | shaves Torhal. |
| 03:20.17 | Arrowmaster | like i said, they have done so much wrong that i really think a bunch of authors should get together and sue them, youll get a couple million in settlement because there is no fucking way they can in the case |
| 03:20.33 | mckenziemc | why do you think laws exist? |
| 03:20.40 | mckenziemc | not to say that there aren't other factors though |
| 03:20.43 | Dagmar | For rich people to control poor people. |
| 03:20.50 | Arrowmaster | just get curse to organize it, call it a class action and dump all the winnings into the author payment pool |
| 03:22.01 | Kaylin | if something is not wrong then not illegal? |
| 03:22.28 | Torhal | Kaylin: Shh. You'll upset him. |
| 03:23.31 | Arrowmaster | Torhal, prencher: seriously, run it past the boss, curse organized class action and the settlement goes into author payment pool |
| 03:24.51 | Arrowmaster | you CANT lose |
| 03:25.12 | Thunder_Child | minus lawyer fees? |
| 03:25.20 | Arrowmaster | ofcourse |
| 03:25.49 | Dagmar | You don't think some people might spin that a bit differently if _Curse_ was suing? |
| 03:26.51 | Arrowmaster | they could try but i doubt it would be too bad of PR |
| 03:27.18 | mikma | torhal: y u so upset about this |
| 03:27.29 | Torhal | mikma: Because racecar. |
| 03:27.30 | Arrowmaster | mikma: they stole his work |
| 03:27.40 | mikma | torhal: pikes peak? |
| 03:27.47 | prencher | Arrowmaster: you just had to say it like that.. instant south park reference |
| 03:27.48 | Torhal | mikma: Perhaps! |
| 03:28.15 | Arrowmaster | prencher: i dont watch south park, whats the reference? |
| 03:28.23 | prencher | Arrowmaster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=768h3Tz4Qik |
| 03:28.32 | mikma | torhal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on3RxOpGNYA |
| 03:29.19 | Torhal | mikma: Fuuuuuuuck. |
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| 03:31.22 | Cairenn | what torhal said! |
| 03:31.28 | Cairenn | fuuuuckkkkkkk |
| 03:31.50 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:31.55 | Cairenn | heh |
| 03:32.33 | mckenziemc | fixes mikma's clock |
| 03:32.56 | mikma | oh wow, my old old old non-working addon is there |
| 03:33.09 | mikma | http://www.worldofaddons.com/wow/currencytracker <- i haven't updated that one in .. err |
| 03:33.23 | Torhal | mikma: But they only have THE BEST AddOns! |
| 03:33.29 | mikma | checks wowi: Updated: 10-15-10 11:42 PM |
| 03:33.34 | prencher | ttn spin in about a week; "it's archive.org, for your favourite wow addons" |
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| 03:34.33 | Arrowmaster | speaking of archive.org |
| 03:35.14 | mikma | mckenziemc: you're right, i need to leave so i won't be late from work, thanks! (06:35) |
| 03:35.19 | Arrowmaster | http://archive.org/details/musopen-lossless-dvd |
| 03:39.03 | Ackis | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:39.42 | Torhal | mmmmmmmmmm |
| 03:41.29 | Arrowmaster | ooooooooooooooooooo |
| 03:41.40 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 03:41.49 | Arrowmaster | you broke the combo |
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| 03:49.17 | Torhal | Hey guys: http://www.hammerfistclan.com/forum/f14/its-here-welcome-world-addons-spark-551195/ |
| 03:51.11 | mckenziemc | hey Torhal |
| 03:51.31 | Torhal | mckenziemc: Nowai man! |
| 03:52.22 | Torhal | Hah - http://noahb.dev.tentonhammer.com/ |
| 03:54.08 | Cairenn | ? |
| 03:54.28 | Torhal | First link was a forum where peple were WTFing at WoA |
| 03:54.33 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 03:54.35 | Torhal | Second link appears to be TTH's dev site for WoA |
| 03:54.46 | Cairenn | ah |
| 03:54.48 | Torhal | …WTF is that doing out of a VPN? |
| 03:54.50 | Torhal | lol |
| 03:54.58 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 03:55.02 | Ackis | hack it Torhal |
| 03:55.15 | Cairenn | make sure to get well hidden first |
| 03:55.17 | Cairenn | :p |
| 03:55.18 | Torhal | Ackis: Sorry, too busy hacking ARL. |
| 03:55.32 | ajmitch | thinks hacking it might be a little counter-productive :) |
| 03:56.08 | End_ | sledge hammer it |
| 03:56.21 | Thunder_Child | it seems to be null cross free |
| 04:05.00 | Dagmar | crash_demons: You were taught correctly. |
| 04:05.12 | Torhal | Dagmar: ? |
| 04:05.29 | mckenziemc | teaches Dagmar how to check which channel he's posting in. |
| 04:13.33 | ccox | Hmm, did Blizzard really set a limit of 1 million gold per toon? |
| 04:14.04 | ccox | (in MoP) |
| 04:14.34 | Torhal | Mayhap - everything is inflated now. |
| 04:15.25 | mckenziemc | isn't that the current limit |
| 04:16.02 | ccox | I thought the limit was higher, up to 2^31 copper |
| 04:16.15 | ccox | (which is their numerical limit) |
| 04:16.20 | mckenziemc | it used to be higher but was changed to one million in cata |
| 04:16.28 | mckenziemc | err, used to be lower? |
| 04:16.41 | Torhal | http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_maximum_amount_of_gold_you_can_have_in_World_of_Warcraft |
| 04:16.45 | Torhal | :D |
| 04:16.56 | mckenziemc | lua> math.power(2, 31) |
| 04:16.57 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: luabot:1: attempt to call field 'power' (a nil value) |
| 04:17.00 | ccox | ok, I misremembered |
| 04:17.10 | ccox | (now looking at about 2.7 mil on PTR) |
| 04:17.27 | kd3 | remembers hearing the tales of the first millionaire as a result of gold buying and having to split it among a handful of toons |
| 04:18.34 | mckenziemc | i think that answers.com answer is wrong |
| 04:18.44 | mckenziemc | http://www.wowpedia.org/Money#Gold_limit |
| 04:19.17 | mckenziemc | about the timing of the changes |
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| 04:42.56 | arton | yaaaaaaaaaaaaawns. |
| 04:43.07 | Mr_Rabies | arrowmaster: you there? :o |
| 04:43.19 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 04:43.42 | Mr_Rabies | is that you in #gg on that other network? :o |
| 04:43.48 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 04:44.13 | Mr_Rabies | i love randomly finding people from other irc channels in channels i've been idling in forever |
| 04:44.35 | Arrowmaster | sarcastic used to be on a few channels over there too |
| 04:46.06 | Arrowmaster | im normally in more channels but ive only got a few setup to autojoin on this system |
| 04:46.37 | Mr_Rabies | i was reading about the gg drama recently and looking for the person in there and saw your nickname |
| 04:46.39 | Mr_Rabies | and was like D: |
| 04:51.27 | Arrowmaster | when is there not gg drama |
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| 04:54.24 | bluspacecow | .... |
| 04:54.35 | bluspacecow | "You have 1 messages awaiting, from: mikma (botmail read)" |
| 04:54.37 | bluspacecow | wot. |
| 04:55.29 | bluspacecow | purl: From mikma (mikma!mikma@reaktio.net) on Thu Aug 16 20:43:07 2012 (8h 11m 46s ago): |
| 04:55.35 | bluspacecow | purl: tnt! http://imgur.com/gallery/yUNhh |
| 04:55.37 | bluspacecow | LOL |
| 05:00.57 | AcidWeb | Morning |
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| 05:01.13 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 05:01.16 | Thunder_Child | i refuse |
| 05:01.18 | bluspacecow | hi2u |
| 05:08.24 | AcidWeb | WoWI have 10 years.... How time flies... |
| 05:08.55 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 05:08.57 | Fisker | ujelly? |
| 05:08.58 | Fisker | http://steamcommunity.com/app/440/screenshots |
| 05:14.06 | Fisker | so jelly bluspacecow |
| 05:14.06 | Fisker | sry |
| 05:22.47 | bluspacecow | oh soz Fisker i was off getting foods |
| 05:22.58 | bluspacecow | so jelly |
| 05:31.42 | Fisker | i would be too bluspacecow |
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| 05:50.36 | Arrowmaster | well this is hilarious http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2012/08/16/libertarians-sue-to-have-romney-kicked-off-washington-ballot |
| 05:51.05 | Dagmar | It's obstructionism, but I can't say it's not _well deserved_ |
| 05:52.37 | Arrowmaster | but unfortunently i fear that since washington was going to be an obama state i fear it can only hurt in the long run since people might get the idea they could have the first electoral vote goto somebody not in the 2 main parties in a long time |
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| 05:54.16 | Jamash | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/659943965/planetary-annihilation-a-next-generation-rts |
| 05:54.24 | Fisker | old Jamash |
| 05:54.26 | Jamash | kickstarter: now you *can* throw money at the screen |
| 05:54.29 | bluspacecow | oh hai2u Jamash |
| 05:54.36 | Jamash | your mom is old, fisker |
| 05:54.48 | Arrowmaster | the three tiers of in-game chat http://i.imgur.com/qMRKn.jpg |
| 05:54.55 | Fisker | yeah Jamash |
| 05:55.22 | Fisker | i get it Arrowmaster |
| 05:55.44 | Jamash | uncommon, epic and legendary? |
| 05:56.13 | Fisker | your mom is legendary in the bed |
| 05:56.14 | Fisker | lol |
| 05:56.48 | Jamash | more like legend of zelda ary |
| 05:57.06 | Fisker | :O |
| 05:58.03 | Arrowmaster | for those that dont get it, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cWUa9kT4QA |
| 05:58.30 | Fisker | the john madden choir was awesome |
| 05:58.48 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCAGwKDWZkE |
| 05:59.29 | Jamash | fail |
| 05:59.30 | Jamash | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv6RbEOlqRo |
| 05:59.31 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 06:00.20 | Jamash | ok the choir is pretty awesome |
| 06:00.26 | Jamash | I was referring to arrowmaster |
| 06:01.01 | Jamash | SMB2 theme makes anything better |
| 06:02.26 | Jamash | aeiou |
| 06:04.10 | Fisker | i once super mario bros'ethered a guy |
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| 06:25.25 | Fisker | Hey Elkano |
| 06:25.37 | Fisker | Saw how awesome i am? |
| 06:26.25 | Jamash | pledges $20 to planetary annihilation |
| 06:26.52 | Fisker | http://steamcommunity.com/app/440/screenshots |
| 06:27.19 | Fisker | I pledged $40 |
| 06:27.22 | Jamash | gj fiskery fisk |
| 06:27.26 | Corgan | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18783372/Screenshots/Screen%20Shot%202012-08-16%20at%2011.24.13%20PM.png ಠ_ಠ |
| 06:27.46 | Jamash | the fudge |
| 06:27.48 | bluspacecow | y u have panda in pants |
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| 06:28.05 | Jamash | three bindings in three days? |
| 06:28.05 | Corgan | 3 of my alts |
| 06:28.08 | Jamash | wat |
| 06:28.11 | Corgan | yep. |
| 06:28.16 | Jamash | w a t |
| 06:28.17 | Corgan | All the right binding |
| 06:28.18 | Corgan | Garr's |
| 06:28.20 | Jamash | w |
| 06:28.21 | Jamash | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:28.22 | Jamash | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:28.30 | Corgan | I have the left one on another alt ಠ_ಠ |
| 06:28.41 | Jamash | hooray for bop? |
| 06:28.48 | Jamash | they should just make everything boa |
| 06:28.54 | Jamash | EVERYTHING |
| 06:28.55 | Corgan | Warrior, Shaman, Hunter |
| 06:29.04 | Corgan | Shaman can't even equip it :( |
| 06:29.05 | Jamash | can shaman even equip swords? |
| 06:29.06 | Jamash | lewl |
| 06:29.18 | Corgan | oh, and the week before |
| 06:29.23 | Corgan | ran it on my priest with 2 friends |
| 06:29.26 | Corgan | Right binding dropped |
| 06:29.49 | Dagmar | Corgan: They'll probably be celebrating no longer rolling against hunters. ;) |
| 06:29.57 | Jamash | let me tell you about Thori'dal, the Star's Fury |
| 06:30.02 | Corgan | also of note |
| 06:30.21 | Corgan | Baron has dropped paladin shoulders for every one of my alts (6 so far) except for my paladin |
| 06:30.22 | Corgan | -_- |
| 06:30.23 | Jamash | in my guild, one of the guys has a level 70 warrior alt that he was gearing up with all the best level 70 gear |
| 06:30.26 | Dagmar | Yeah I would hate it for someone who got that on a Hunter |
| 06:30.33 | Corgan | and it's the one item I need for full t1 |
| 06:30.41 | Dagmar | Beyond that, hey no more pom poms! |
| 06:30.48 | Jamash | we were running sunwell |
| 06:30.49 | Corgan | RNG is dumb |
| 06:31.03 | Jamash | I was under the mistaken impression that if Thori'dal dropped, it was reserved for me, 'cause I'm a hunter |
| 06:31.19 | Jamash | it was reserved for him, 'cause he was the one setting up the runs for his alt |
| 06:31.38 | Jamash | Thori'dal drops, he gets it, misunderstanding becomes apparent, feelsbadman |
| 06:31.52 | Jamash | two weeks later, he says, hey, I'll keep leading sunwell raids until you get thori'dal |
| 06:31.55 | durcyn | does this story have a point, or an ending |
| 06:31.57 | Jamash | THAT DAY |
| 06:32.03 | Jamash | THORI'DAL DROPS A SECOND TIME |
| 06:32.06 | Jamash | I get it |
| 06:32.12 | Dagmar | But you'll no longer be able to use the t1 pompom |
| 06:32.22 | Dagmar | Jamash: You are a cruel man |
| 06:32.29 | Jamash | how so |
| 06:32.41 | Dagmar | Same day? |
| 06:32.57 | Dagmar | I have like, an oozeling |
| 06:33.04 | zenzio | I remember Thori'dal dropping on my (then) guild's first kill, then not again... but then again it wasn't that many kills left before WotLK |
| 06:33.13 | Dagmar | Rare anythings don't happen to my hunter |
| 06:33.14 | Jamash | first thori'dal, then two weeks, then second thori'dal? |
| 06:33.21 | Jamash | awww |
| 06:33.25 | Jamash | my hunter has loot mojo |
| 06:33.33 | Jamash | like, serious loot mojo |
| 06:33.59 | Dagmar | I ruined my rng karma when I got a purple in Darkshore during CB |
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| 06:34.05 | Corgan | my druid got both old ZG mounts within 30 days of eachother |
| 06:34.07 | Dagmar | er Darkshire |
| 06:34.33 | Corgan | compared to my friend who ran ZG every day since it launched in vanilla, and never had it drop |
| 06:35.19 | Dagmar | I liked it better when it was easier to get the beer |
| 06:35.57 | Jamash | he got Hurricane in BRD, Beast Mastery pants killing ogres just outside shattrath, don santos' famous hunting rifle farming for leather in shadowmoon valley, hand of edward the odd during the opening of the gates of ahn'qiraj |
| 06:36.11 | Jamash | thori'dal of course |
| 06:36.33 | Dagmar | Does his /played report time logged out? |
| 06:36.58 | Jamash | not only did I get magical mr pinchy in about 5 minutes of fishing in outland (my sister took a month to get it) but I got the minipet on the very first summon |
| 06:37.02 | Mr_Rabies | bah, i really hope they have more info on the blizzard breach soon |
| 06:37.12 | Mr_Rabies | i'm so paranoid |
| 06:37.15 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: Did you change your password? |
| 06:37.30 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, and my secret question, and have a physical authenticator |
| 06:37.38 | Dagmar | Then you've got nothing to worry about |
| 06:37.43 | Mr_Rabies | as far as my wow account, no |
| 06:37.57 | Mr_Rabies | but there's been no definitive word in regards to financial data or other information yet |
| 06:38.06 | Jamash | however, loot mojo can be a curse as well as a blessing |
| 06:38.16 | Jamash | I got the sewer rat while fishing in dalaran |
| 06:38.17 | Dagmar | If Blizzard was not keeping that on separate servers, they'd be mad |
| 06:38.20 | Jamash | on the ptr :( |
| 06:38.50 | Dagmar | With as many times over the past three years companies have gotten their asses handed to them for not doing that, someone surely will have learned by now |
| 06:39.07 | Mr_Rabies | on the other hand |
| 06:39.13 | Mr_Rabies | lazy sysadmins are lazy |
| 06:39.14 | Jamash | oh yeah my hunter also has the headless horseman's mount |
| 06:39.22 | Dagmar | That's not exactly rare |
| 06:39.35 | Jamash | I know people who've been farming it for years with no success |
| 06:39.36 | Mr_Rabies | well, it was last year |
| 06:39.45 | Mr_Rabies | year before that, it was like oprah was handing them out |
| 06:39.47 | Dagmar | I've gotten that a few times, mainly because of beatig the stuffing out of the seasonal pinatas |
| 06:40.27 | Dagmar | I was able to solo him when we were out of control with volley |
| 06:40.31 | Mr_Rabies | the fact that they haven't said it HASN'T been accessed is a bit concerning in that regard, Dagmar |
| 06:40.41 | Jamash | nice |
| 06:40.51 | Jamash | I miss volley |
| 06:41.04 | Dagmar | Well, they also didn't say they didn't know if they'd accessed the staff's hidden stash of gnome porn |
| 06:41.04 | Mr_Rabies | i don't, what a weird spell O_o |
| 06:41.14 | Jamash | pfft, hidden |
| 06:41.27 | Mr_Rabies | well, they mentioned it but didn't give any exact info |
| 06:41.36 | Mr_Rabies | which is worse than not mentioning it |
| 06:41.38 | Dagmar | THey didn't mention if they'd accessed the databases containing all the naughty emails players send to each other |
| 06:42.03 | Jamash | goldshire_emote_logs.csv |
| 06:42.08 | Dagmar | "At this time, we.ve found no evidence that financial information such as credit cards, billing addresses, or real names were compromised." |
| 06:42.13 | Dagmar | How much clearer does it need to get? |
| 06:42.24 | Mr_Rabies | At this time, there is no evidence that financial information was affected or accessed. There's also no evidence that personal information such as real names or billing addresses were accessed. |
| 06:42.27 | Mr_Rabies | see |
| 06:42.35 | Dagmar | Umm... |
| 06:42.40 | Jamash | there's no evidence means there's no evidence |
| 06:42.41 | Dagmar | Most companies can say that, any day of the week. |
| 06:42.42 | Mr_Rabies | the qualifiers there are somewhat concerning |
| 06:43.02 | Jamash | they can't say it didn't happen because you can't prove a negative with examples |
| 06:43.35 | Dagmar | Well, in this case |
| 06:43.44 | Dagmar | There's other cases |
| 06:43.49 | Mr_Rabies | i'm just so paranoid now, i'm tired of getting my accounts compromised everywhere, it's seriously making me paranoid as hell |
| 06:43.51 | Mr_Rabies | :( |
| 06:43.52 | Dagmar | Prove you were never raped by sheep |
| 06:44.02 | Dagmar | Well, _paranoia_ is bad |
| 06:44.20 | Mr_Rabies | like, last year my gmail account was compromised, which led to my wow account being compromised |
| 06:44.30 | Mr_Rabies | i had a dial in authenticator at the time |
| 06:44.46 | Dagmar | I just stick to secured equipment |
| 06:44.46 | Jamash | how can you prove someone didn't craxor their way in and grab all the credit card data and wipe all traces from the logs? |
| 06:45.05 | Mr_Rabies | well, that's what i'm hoping they're going to investigate |
| 06:45.11 | Jamash | I'm sure they are |
| 06:45.14 | Mr_Rabies | some reassurance would be nice |
| 06:45.17 | Dagmar | I'm sure they *are* investigating it |
| 06:45.23 | Dagmar | But no evidence is no evidence |
| 06:45.37 | Mr_Rabies | then after my gmail account last year, psn happened |
| 06:45.45 | Mr_Rabies | then kotaku, then last.fm |
| 06:45.45 | Dagmar | Those people were fucking stupid. |
| 06:46.03 | Dagmar | Well, kotaku and last.fm don't have much reason to care, but Sony was just stupid |
| 06:46.17 | Mr_Rabies | then a few months ago |
| 06:46.24 | Mr_Rabies | my debit card was swiped twice in two months |
| 06:46.27 | Mr_Rabies | as was my sister's |
| 06:46.36 | Dagmar | From what I was reading, they basically had a soft batch setup |
| 06:46.42 | Dagmar | Crunchy on the outside, chewey on the inside |
| 06:46.44 | Jamash | the fact that basically every sony web site and account database got craxored indicates that sony was not taking security in any way seriously |
| 06:46.45 | Mr_Rabies | i just, feel so naked now :( |
| 06:46.45 | Dagmar | No partitioning |
| 06:47.13 | Dagmar | It's been a "YOU WILL DO THIS" kind of thing for a long time to keep the billing systems separate from the rest of the network |
| 06:47.13 | Mr_Rabies | someone tried to use my debit card at a sears and meijer in other parts of the country |
| 06:47.14 | Jamash | it was day after day of sony music and sony movies and sony games and sony this and sony that all being craxored |
| 06:47.39 | bluspacecow | @Mr_Rabies then put some clothes on. stop being so nudey |
| 06:47.46 | Mr_Rabies | i really hope we get some better encryption soon, or something |
| 06:47.46 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: You keep an eye on your waiter? |
| 06:47.52 | Jamash | https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/ |
| 06:48.03 | Mr_Rabies | well, during the second time, i never let anyone other than myself swipe the card |
| 06:48.12 | Mr_Rabies | most likely some business has a compromised card reader |
| 06:48.23 | Dagmar | Or they were just stupid |
| 06:48.28 | Mr_Rabies | entirely fake unit, falsified information |
| 06:48.36 | Jamash | tap on the modem line |
| 06:48.48 | Mr_Rabies | so now i only use my card at one place in person |
| 06:48.49 | Jamash | malware on the local network |
| 06:48.52 | Dagmar | Remember about those two idiots who got popped for _sitting in the parking lot of Home Depot_ and sniffing CC transactions from the registers over the wifi |
| 06:49.14 | Mr_Rabies | the bank, and a single grocery store location |
| 06:49.15 | Jamash | yeah well the idiots who put CC transactions over unsecured wifi should have been arrested too |
| 06:49.26 | Dagmar | I don't disagree with you |
| 06:49.34 | Mr_Rabies | and i use cash for everything else |
| 06:49.47 | Dagmar | I just don't worry about it |
| 06:49.49 | Mr_Rabies | i'm thinking about getting a credit card to use for everything, since there's little risk to my actual account |
| 06:50.03 | Dagmar | I have no prolem coming down on someone like the wrath of god almighty in person over things like that |
| 06:50.06 | Jamash | I keep all my money in bitcoins on a babbage analytical engine I built myself out of brass |
| 06:50.22 | Dagmar | Bitcoins are looking interesting |
| 06:50.28 | Mr_Rabies | well, i have no idea where it was taken, dagmar |
| 06:50.41 | Jamash | bitcoins are like money for people who think they're smarter than they actually are |
| 06:50.41 | Mr_Rabies | i used my card for everything |
| 06:50.44 | Mr_Rabies | the worst thing is |
| 06:50.50 | Mr_Rabies | all my replacement cards, everytime i've gotten one |
| 06:50.55 | Mr_Rabies | only two digits are different |
| 06:50.59 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: Which means that about a million places might have screwed up |
| 06:51.12 | Jamash | cvv? |
| 06:51.34 | Mr_Rabies | cvv is different, but i don't really honestly know what's stored on the strip |
| 06:51.44 | Dagmar | Not the CVV |
| 06:51.56 | Mr_Rabies | it was a strip swipe |
| 06:52.04 | Jamash | the usual, biometrics, social security number, one world government black helicopter number of the beast UPC codes |
| 06:52.08 | Dagmar | They don't hold much. the number, exp and your naem |
| 06:52.09 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 06:52.25 | Mr_Rabies | apparently that was enough to falsify it and use it at a walmart, sears, and meijer |
| 06:52.28 | Dagmar | THey wouldn't hold the CVV because that's _explicitly_ a card-not-present thing |
| 06:52.36 | Dagmar | Yes, it is |
| 06:52.40 | Jamash | how come nobody ever notices the bar code on the back of agent 47's head, anyway? |
| 06:52.45 | Mr_Rabies | $200-300 per transaction to my account |
| 06:52.55 | Dagmar | They probably called you too |
| 06:53.08 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, after it posted to my account |
| 06:53.11 | Dagmar | I've had visa call me about my own stuff |
| 06:53.13 | Mr_Rabies | couldn't do anything until it actually posted |
| 06:53.23 | Jamash | and why didn't they just roll back all transactions that occurred the day bane busted into the exchange? |
| 06:53.29 | Mr_Rabies | they could have cleared out my account |
| 06:53.33 | Dagmar | I'm in SF trying to buy records and suddently "Declined? How the fuck is that even possible?" |
| 06:53.51 | Dagmar | Jamash: You plays, you pays. |
| 06:53.59 | Jamash | wut |
| 06:54.04 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: It would have gotten reverted |
| 06:54.14 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, but |
| 06:54.15 | Dagmar | Jamash: THey're basically fuckign gambling up there, man |
| 06:54.18 | Dagmar | Them's the rules. |
| 06:54.23 | Jamash | the exchanges have rolled back transactions in cases of gross error and fraud actually |
| 06:54.26 | Dagmar | If you want to play, you have to pay. |
| 06:54.40 | Dagmar | It wasn't the exchange's screwup |
| 06:54.46 | Mr_Rabies | that's my money that disappears until it gets rolled back, Dagmar |
| 06:54.55 | Jamash | yah it was |
| 06:54.57 | Dagmar | It was greedy gamblers letting betting bots get out of control |
| 06:54.59 | Mr_Rabies | money i need to buy lunch and whatnot |
| 06:55.09 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: This is why you open a second account |
| 06:55.13 | Jamash | it was their security that let a supervillain stroll into the stock exchange with guns mang |
| 06:55.14 | Dagmar | SOmewhere _else_ |
| 06:55.22 | Mr_Rabies | also it takes a week to have a card sent back |
| 06:55.32 | Dagmar | I've got a backup card |
| 06:55.40 | Mr_Rabies | i came pretty close to defaulting on my annual pass because of this |
| 06:55.42 | Jamash | if he had insiders on the exchange why did he need to bust in with guns anyway? |
| 06:55.44 | Dagmar | Hell I've got a couple of prepaid cards around, but that's just paranoia |
| 06:56.20 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, that's what i'm thinking about doing, that or getting a credit card |
| 06:56.27 | Mr_Rabies | since any fraud won't directly hit my account |
| 06:56.51 | Mr_Rabies | i really don't want to be indebted to anyone for as long as i can avoid it, but i think i'm just about done avoiding it |
| 06:57.04 | Dagmar | Keep avoiding it |
| 06:57.14 | Jamash | you can get a prepaid "credit" card but those have fees |
| 06:57.23 | Dagmar | You might get a credit card just to game their silly little system, but otherwise I wouldn't bother with a _credit_ card |
| 06:57.25 | Jamash | and they might just take your money if you don't use it for a while |
| 06:57.43 | Dagmar | Yeah it's important to read the fine print on the prepaid cards |
| 06:57.49 | Mr_Rabies | also the realization that credit cards are this insecure kind of blows my mind |
| 06:58.02 | Dagmar | Oh the whole fucking system is that "insecure" |
| 06:58.08 | Dagmar | They just expect auditing to pick up the slack |
| 06:58.17 | Mr_Rabies | worse even, is that phone bills are essentially defacto credit cards now |
| 06:58.33 | Dagmar | The numbers on your check, only ONE of your checks, will give someone total access to your freaking checking account if they're willing to lie on a form |
| 06:58.57 | Mr_Rabies | any kind of shady person could go through your mail and have enough info to hit you with a recurring bill |
| 06:59.03 | Mr_Rabies | on your phone |
| 06:59.05 | Jamash | yup |
| 06:59.13 | Jamash | and people don't even notice the charges a lot of the time |
| 06:59.16 | Dagmar | Pfft. Slamming happens more often |
| 06:59.23 | Mr_Rabies | slamming? |
| 06:59.26 | Jamash | because phone bills have so many goddamn stupid charges on them anyway it's hard to tell |
| 06:59.34 | Dagmar | Oh you havent' heard of this little game then |
| 06:59.38 | Mr_Rabies | see, this is why i'm so paranoid |
| 06:59.44 | bluspacecow | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_slamming |
| 06:59.51 | Mr_Rabies | this is crime that you basically can't do anything about |
| 07:00.07 | Mr_Rabies | because it's overseas and/or relatively untrackable |
| 07:00.14 | Mr_Rabies | someone mugging you |
| 07:00.15 | Mr_Rabies | well |
| 07:00.21 | Mr_Rabies | you know exactly what he got |
| 07:00.29 | Dagmar | Some of these companies wanting you to "SEND CODE 'GIMME' TO 22845 TO WIN!' are actually looking to basically say you were also trying out their long distance service |
| 07:00.35 | Mr_Rabies | your wallet, your cash on hand, and whatever else in it |
| 07:00.55 | Mr_Rabies | oh yeah, i know about that, just didn't know that was called slamming |
| 07:01.00 | Dagmar | ...and then they'll push a message up into the network that has you basically paying them money each month for no apparent reason |
| 07:01.30 | Dagmar | Usually the carriers kinda round up some pitchforks and torches and run them off, but it takes awhile |
| 07:01.37 | bluspacecow | for the lolz |
| 07:01.37 | Mr_Rabies | i never do those TEXT HAMSANDWICH TO TROLOLOL for FRESH BEATS |
| 07:01.46 | Mr_Rabies | because uh |
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| 07:01.51 | Mr_Rabies | 1) i don't really want fresh beats |
| 07:02.11 | Mr_Rabies | 2) if i did, i'd probably buy them with money like a real person, not via some shady-ass text message system |
| 07:02.38 | Dagmar | Alcohol |
| 07:02.46 | Dagmar | It impairs the judgement |
| 07:02.46 | Jamash | text "I make poor financial decisions" to 66666 for free ice cream for life! |
| 07:02.47 | Mr_Rabies | what about it |
| 07:02.50 | Mr_Rabies | it owns |
| 07:02.52 | bluspacecow | @Mr_Rabies http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jrBngKvZ6_I/TpQ1arZLHBI/AAAAAAAABr8/0uBPO1oueS0/s1600/silverbeet.jpg |
| 07:02.57 | bluspacecow | you don't want fresh salad ? |
| 07:02.59 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 07:03.08 | Dagmar | Commercials and intoxicants are bad juju |
| 07:03.15 | Mr_Rabies | bluspacecow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7c3bQQmwVE |
| 07:03.26 | Dagmar | Especially since one Baskin Robbins commercial in a room full of stoners can start a stampede for the door |
| 07:03.38 | Mr_Rabies | man |
| 07:03.52 | Mr_Rabies | i went to taco bell at midnight once |
| 07:03.58 | Dagmar | lol |
| 07:04.06 | Mr_Rabies | and the guys infront of us in line asked if they had any blunts |
| 07:04.07 | Jamash | the art style of that show causes me physical discomfort |
| 07:04.13 | Mr_Rabies | and they were laughing constantly |
| 07:04.29 | Dagmar | Honestly I wonder about the Taco Bell nearest my house because they're clearly sober at midnight |
| 07:04.38 | Mr_Rabies | i like doug's art style Jamash |
| 07:04.39 | Dagmar | The other three in town... NOPE. |
| 07:04.44 | Jamash | I'm sorry? |
| 07:04.53 | Jamash | Dagmar: they're dealing in the hard stuff |
| 07:04.54 | Mr_Rabies | it reminds me of like |
| 07:04.59 | Mr_Rabies | shel silverstein or something |
| 07:05.01 | Dagmar | Jamash: Wouldn't be the first time |
| 07:05.12 | Dagmar | There was a Wendy's here that *finally* got popped |
| 07:05.19 | Jamash | you don't dip into the supply when you're batting in the major leagues |
| 07:05.23 | Jamash | or something |
| 07:05.32 | Mr_Rabies | i had no clue shel silverstein looked like this, fyi http://creativekidsplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/shel-silverstein.jpg |
| 07:05.32 | Jamash | just pretend I used correct organized crime lingo |
| 07:05.37 | Dagmar | You would have to be blind to be in there for more than five minutes and not know the place was up to here with coke and meth heads |
| 07:05.37 | Mr_Rabies | until recently |
| 07:05.47 | Jamash | I DO COCAAAAAINE |
| 07:05.55 | Mr_Rabies | apparently many of his books had that photo in the back |
| 07:05.57 | Mr_Rabies | i don't remember it |
| 07:06.00 | zenzio | "As quoted by The Verge as they sat in the courtroom listening in, Koh wondered aloud why Apple would offer the list 'when unless you're smoking crack you know these witnesses aren't going to be called!'" |
| 07:06.21 | Jamash | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUqpLvmMkpg |
| 07:06.26 | Dagmar | zenzio: It's about time someone started using that tone of voice with them |
| 07:06.33 | zenzio | yeah |
| 07:06.48 | Jamash | which lawsuit is this now |
| 07:06.51 | Jamash | I can't keep track |
| 07:06.54 | Mr_Rabies | The Verge seems like one of those 'news' sites that came out of nowhere, but became huge after a single situation |
| 07:07.14 | Dagmar | Jamash: The one where Apple claims they invented coherent light |
| 07:07.20 | Jamash | wait, wait, that was the *judge*? |
| 07:07.26 | Jamash | holy shit |
| 07:07.31 | Dagmar | Yep. |
| 07:07.46 | Dagmar | THey're getting prior arted in the face over stuff from the freakin' 80's |
| 07:07.51 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 07:07.52 | Mr_Rabies | i mean |
| 07:07.57 | Dagmar | ...and they come into a courtroom making these ludicrous claims? |
| 07:08.06 | Mr_Rabies | they got prior arted on 2001: a space odyssey in regards to the ipad |
| 07:08.12 | Jamash | snap |
| 07:08.14 | Dagmar | Not to mention ST:TNG |
| 07:08.23 | Dagmar | Oh, and pretty much every damn Star Trek ever |
| 07:08.33 | Mr_Rabies | every time i see a tablet-like device in something far older than the ipad i'm like "c'mon, apple, really?" |
| 07:08.36 | Dagmar | ...including the ones with the Magic Slate glued to the front |
| 07:08.45 | Jamash | also, the etch-a-sketch |
| 07:08.52 | Jamash | and the dynabook |
| 07:09.03 | Dagmar | Well, not exactly a touch interface there, but still... magic slate |
| 07:09.03 | Fisker | what |
| 07:09.03 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ8pQVDyaLo&feature=player_embedded |
| 07:09.08 | Fisker | they cut Koh off the payroll? |
| 07:09.20 | Mr_Rabies | I claimed prior art on Fisker once |
| 07:10.00 | Mr_Rabies | also, in regards to 2001: a space odyssey |
| 07:10.02 | Dagmar | Picard's padd looked like a freaking Xoom |
| 07:10.08 | Mr_Rabies | i don't get why people say it's a slow film :( |
| 07:10.18 | Dagmar | because it's all quiet and calm |
| 07:10.19 | Jamash | because it came out before star wars |
| 07:10.34 | Mr_Rabies | it's meticulously paced, and incredibly tense after a certain point |
| 07:10.37 | Dagmar | No car chases and such |
| 07:10.44 | Mr_Rabies | even before then, it's discovery and beauty |
| 07:10.51 | Mr_Rabies | it never feels like it's "slow" |
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| 07:11.24 | Mr_Rabies | i'm guessing a lot of people that say that only have seen it on a tv |
| 07:11.31 | Jamash | well, yeah |
| 07:11.32 | Mr_Rabies | which i imagine doesn't work well for most of kubrick's films |
| 07:11.33 | Dagmar | That's because you have this thing they don't. |
| 07:11.38 | Dagmar | An "attention span" |
| 07:11.43 | Mr_Rabies | but i don't! |
| 07:11.49 | Jamash | it came out in 1968 |
| 07:11.55 | Dagmar | You should really go to the mall and people-watch sometie |
| 07:11.57 | Mr_Rabies | i kind of artificially kill my attention span |
| 07:12.05 | Jamash | how many people here were alive and of an age to see and remember movies in 1968 |
| 07:12.19 | Mr_Rabies | because if i let myself stay on the same topic for too long, it inevitably becomes an existential quandry and i get sad |
| 07:12.22 | Mr_Rabies | i fear i might be crazy |
| 07:12.39 | Jamash | I was... negative 13 years old in 1968 |
| 07:12.40 | Dagmar | Did you ever see a show called "Are you smarter than a fifth grader?" |
| 07:12.48 | Dagmar | These people exist. |
| 07:12.49 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, but they rescreen it all over the time, Jamash |
| 07:12.55 | Dagmar | There's actually quite a lot of them. |
| 07:12.59 | Jamash | why would you go to a screening of 2001? it's so slow |
| 07:13.03 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 07:13.05 | Jamash | :D |
| 07:13.06 | Mr_Rabies | that's true |
| 07:13.21 | Mr_Rabies | i rented it on blu ray, the first time i saw it in its entirety |
| 07:13.32 | Mr_Rabies | i've got a projector in my theater room |
| 07:13.38 | Dagmar | If something doesn't happen every thirty seconds, they forget what they were watching because their attention wanders |
| 07:13.40 | Mr_Rabies | i can't imagine that film on a tv |
| 07:13.42 | Jamash | I don't think it's slow except for the LSD trip scene which was inserted because nobody could think of a good ending |
| 07:13.54 | Mr_Rabies | i love that scene |
| 07:14.01 | Jamash | kubrick nor clarke have any idea what it |
| 07:14.04 | Jamash | 's about |
| 07:14.07 | Mr_Rabies | really? |
| 07:14.10 | Jamash | *had |
| 07:14.37 | Mr_Rabies | i figured it was exposure to the monolith, causing artificial rapid evolution again |
| 07:14.47 | Mr_Rabies | just, in first person |
| 07:15.07 | Mr_Rabies | (i realize evolution doesn't work this way, but ALIENS.jpg) |
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| 07:15.37 | Mr_Rabies | the third gundam film has a huge reference to the LSD trip scene in 2001 |
| 07:15.56 | Jamash | I'm sorry |
| 07:16.20 | Jamash | I'm allergic to gundam |
| 07:16.27 | Mr_Rabies | wait, no, i think it's movie 2 |
| 07:16.33 | Mr_Rabies | those films are amazing, Jamash |
| 07:16.34 | Jamash | exposure to censored gundam wing will do that |
| 07:16.37 | Mr_Rabies | if you like sci-fi at all |
| 07:16.52 | Jamash | and the original series |
| 07:16.59 | Mr_Rabies | original gundam is way closer to kubrick than bay |
| 07:17.04 | Jamash | there's apparently a bunch of good gundam which is not what gets shown on tv |
| 07:17.07 | Jamash | in the us |
| 07:17.10 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 07:17.13 | Mr_Rabies | the original series is good |
| 07:17.17 | Jamash | 'cause everything I've seen has been baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad |
| 07:17.18 | Mr_Rabies | but it's not really well dubbed |
| 07:17.31 | Mr_Rabies | and it's dated, unless you know the director's quirks |
| 07:17.33 | Jamash | so I have a learned aversion to it |
| 07:17.44 | Mr_Rabies | the films are a condensed and clarified version of the series |
| 07:17.59 | Mr_Rabies | with some of the goofy toy commercial stuff the director was forced to put in the series taken out |
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| 07:18.51 | Mr_Rabies | here's the scene in question: (Major original gundam spoilers, if anyone cares) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYm6rVGcxmE |
| 07:19.00 | Jamash | the crowning moment in the censored for kidz version of gundam wing was when someone shot someone else with a gun and they removed the gun and the bullet and the wound |
| 07:19.03 | Mr_Rabies | no, you don't deserve subtitles |
| 07:19.10 | Jamash | which made the entire scene incomprehensible |
| 07:19.33 | Jamash | probably better without |
| 07:19.36 | Mr_Rabies | man, i wish i could do spoiler tags here |
| 07:19.38 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 07:19.59 | Jamash | I understand PEW PEW pretty well |
| 07:20.14 | Mr_Rabies | oh god this video is so low quality |
| 07:20.20 | Jamash | yes |
| 07:20.20 | Mr_Rabies | it basically explodes into pixels after a point |
| 07:20.37 | Jamash | how come we can hear the explosions huh |
| 07:20.47 | Mr_Rabies | welp |
| 07:20.54 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCBWan2FWGU&feature=related found a way higher quality version |
| 07:21.07 | Jamash | is the *anime* higher quality in that version? |
| 07:21.30 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 07:22.09 | Jamash | humanoid robots in space makes an amount of sense that is too close to 0 to distinguish |
| 07:22.51 | Mr_Rabies | NASA would like you to Deal With It http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Robonaut_2_working.jpg/350px-Robonaut_2_working.jpg |
| 07:23.09 | Jamash | do they have legs? |
| 07:23.22 | Mr_Rabies | legs are overrated, only the top brass care about stuff like that |
| 07:23.26 | Jamash | owned then |
| 07:23.29 | Jamash | gundams have legs |
| 07:23.33 | Mr_Rabies | (this is a gundam joke about 2 people in the whole world will get) |
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| 07:23.53 | Mr_Rabies | at one point a guy hurriedly goes to get into a mobile suit, and realizes it's unfinished |
| 07:24.08 | Jamash | and realizes you don't need legs in space! |
| 07:24.09 | Mr_Rabies | he's like "ths thing's only about 80% complete" |
| 07:24.28 | Mr_Rabies | "the mechanic is like '80%, more like 100%' those things are overrated" |
| 07:24.35 | Mr_Rabies | wow |
| 07:24.39 | Mr_Rabies | just |
| 07:24.41 | Mr_Rabies | wow |
| 07:24.43 | Mr_Rabies | i murdered those quotes |
| 07:24.47 | Jamash | oh well |
| 07:24.48 | Mr_Rabies | RIP quotation marks, forever |
| 07:25.31 | Mr_Rabies | but they do have their uses |
| 07:25.47 | Jamash | <q> is awesome |
| 07:26.01 | Mr_Rabies | considering the suits are used on ground, and lots of varied terrain, like the moon, mining asteroids, etc |
| 07:26.12 | Jamash | wheels, treads |
| 07:26.23 | Jamash | humanoid legs are a liability |
| 07:26.32 | Mr_Rabies | i bet curiosity would be way better off if it could strut its stuff |
| 07:26.40 | Mr_Rabies | it'd go straight gangnam style on that water |
| 07:26.41 | Jamash | quadrupedal/hexapedal might work |
| 07:26.56 | Jamash | bipedal is too unstable |
| 07:27.05 | Jamash | gundam style? |
| 07:27.11 | Mr_Rabies | (i realize they're not realistic, but it came out ten years after we landed on the moon, and the director was forced to make a toy commercial out of it, despite hating the concept) |
| 07:27.19 | Jamash | oh man now I'm seeing dancing [jk]-pop robots |
| 07:27.24 | Mr_Rabies | oh |
| 07:27.25 | Mr_Rabies | that exists |
| 07:27.36 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRN-IrejBTw |
| 07:27.36 | bluspacecow | heeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy sexy lady |
| 07:27.53 | bluspacecow | jamash being the sexy lady |
| 07:28.05 | Jamash | I luled at the video |
| 07:28.16 | Jamash | better than the original imo |
| 07:28.36 | Jamash | I'm a sexy robot lady |
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| 07:29.13 | Mr_Rabies | votoms handles mechs a lot more realistically |
| 07:29.29 | Mr_Rabies | they're only about 15 feet tall, at most, and use wheels for motion most of the time |
| 07:30.02 | Mr_Rabies | they have legs, but they're just there for really rugged terrain and shock absorbtion for air deployment, etc |
| 07:31.04 | Jamash | I've heard of votoms |
| 07:31.06 | Jamash | haven't seen it |
| 07:31.51 | Mr_Rabies | it's pretty good |
| 07:32.00 | Mr_Rabies | i like gundam more, because the themes are more interesting to me |
| 07:32.59 | Mr_Rabies | the themes in classic gundam aren't really about the robots at all, it's about the horrors of war, love, political intrigue, oppressed minorities, and trying to be a teenager with all this happening |
| 07:33.07 | bluspacecow | anyone tested altoholic in beta ? it work ? |
| 07:33.24 | Mr_Rabies | it working on 4.3.4 is somewhat arguable even |
| 07:34.04 | Mr_Rabies | it's almost certainly the largest source of UI taint that I encounter daily |
| 07:35.47 | Jamash | SUBMIT YOURSELF TO THE TAINT |
| 07:36.36 | Humbedooh | never!! |
| 07:39.26 | arton | :/ |
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| 07:44.03 | g0urra | 'morning |
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| 07:56.10 | bluspacecow | umm |
| 07:56.46 | bluspacecow | the patch that's coming out on August 28th … that'll have the 5.xx UI/API changes won't it ? |
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| 07:57.26 | g0urra | yes bluspacecow |
| 07:57.32 | bluspacecow | :| |
| 07:58.31 | mckenziemc | hey blu |
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| 08:12.43 | g0urra | "WoW is just as grindy and farmy as D3" -coworker |
| 08:13.45 | mckenziemc | hmm |
| 08:14.06 | mckenziemc | apparently Butte County has a road named AAA Lane |
| 08:14.08 | Blazeflack | I have to disagree with your coworker :p |
| 08:14.39 | mckenziemc | for some reason that looked weirder in the PDF : / |
| 08:15.06 | Jamash | lol |
| 08:15.10 | Jamash | buttes |
| 08:15.54 | Jamash | I figured out how to fix the bugs my addon has with guild perks and companions |
| 08:16.03 | mckenziemc | uninstall it? |
| 08:16.03 | Jamash | I'm removing support for guild perks and companions |
| 08:16.08 | mckenziemc | heh |
| 08:16.21 | Jamash | I don't think anyone ever used those features anyway |
| 08:16.37 | Jamash | I can put 'em back if 1. anyone complains and 2. I can figure out how to fix the bugs |
| 08:17.10 | bluspacecow | they can do a companion addon |
| 08:17.12 | bluspacecow | :D |
| 08:17.26 | Jamash | nobody puts companions on action bars these days, do they? |
| 08:17.36 | Jamash | I use randomcompanion |
| 08:17.45 | nevcairiel | i have my favortie companion on my bars |
| 08:17.48 | bluspacecow | that would be crude and unusual punishment |
| 08:17.55 | nevcairiel | favorite* |
| 08:18.02 | Jamash | the only companion I have on a bar is ragnaros |
| 08:18.05 | mckenziemc | hmm |
| 08:18.06 | bluspacecow | my favourite companion on a bar is a curvy womans |
| 08:18.08 | Jamash | next to cooking |
| 08:18.14 | mckenziemc | five-legged cellar spider |
| 08:18.18 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 08:18.20 | Jamash | wat |
| 08:18.34 | bluspacecow | you cook your companions ? |
| 08:18.36 | nevcairiel | does ragnaros count as a camp fire, or why cooking? :P |
| 08:18.37 | bluspacecow | you monster! |
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| 08:19.00 | nevcairiel | that would actually be quite funny, ragnaros allowing cooking without a fire :) |
| 08:19.04 | Jamash | bigby's inappropriately grasping hands? |
| 08:19.06 | Jamash | and yes |
| 08:19.08 | Jamash | yes he does |
| 08:19.40 | nevcairiel | i have the firefly on my bars, was one of the first truely rare pets i randomly got during questing, and i kinda stuck with it |
| 08:19.44 | Jamash | I forget whether it was DL or the daily blink but one of those comics illustrated this fact |
| 08:26.28 | zenzio | I think I mostly use the old Worg Pup, the wolvar... and one more that I somehow can't remember |
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| 08:38.30 | Fisker | i still remember i got a pet whelp while passing through a pack that dazed me nevcairiel :D |
| 08:40.19 | mckenziemc | morning Fisker |
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| 08:54.21 | zenzio | http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/5059284_700b.jpg |
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| 08:58.52 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 08:59.05 | bluspacecow | would the code posted at this page http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info18268-ClockHider.html#info work in beta (ie 5.0.4) |
| 09:01.52 | bluspacecow | actually BRB |
| 09:37.04 | Sintacks | zenzio, don't be posting 9fag links |
| 09:38.07 | zenzio | 9fag? |
| 09:38.13 | Sintacks | ... |
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| 09:59.18 | Humbedooh | coffee, mmm |
| 09:59.34 | Humbedooh | or should I say 'coffee' |
| 10:00.28 | Stanzilla | :E |
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| 10:01.03 | Kalrth | Fisker: whens the next gen gpu from nvidia out |
| 10:02.05 | randomDude | Kalrth: same time his mum gets out |
| 10:02.17 | Kalrth | so tonight, with me?! |
| 10:06.05 | Fisker | idk Kalrth |
| 10:06.16 | Fisker | did you hear i'm mvp Kalrth ? |
| 10:06.25 | Fisker | http://steamcommunity.com/app/440/screenshots |
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| 11:37.33 | zenzio | man, it's starting to feel really Friday now |
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| 11:46.00 | cbreak-work | http://arstechnica.com/science/2012/08/kentucky-lawmakers-shocked-to-find-evolutoin-in-biology-tests/ |
| 11:46.20 | cbreak-work | americans will be dumb if those people are successfull. |
| 11:47.33 | Kalrth | GOP is pretty successful, no? |
| 11:48.03 | cbreak-work | what's gop? |
| 11:48.30 | Kalrth | the republican party in the states |
| 11:50.19 | alestane | Do other countries glorify willful ignorance and lack of schooling? |
| 11:50.39 | Kalrth | GOP is where all the bible thumping tea party conservatives go to get heard |
| 11:51.06 | Kalrth | alestane: yes, but that's because they either cant afford it or are ruled by dictators |
| 11:51.23 | Kalrth | like north korea |
| 11:51.36 | Kalrth | or sweden |
| 11:51.51 | alestane | There's definitely a subculture in America that regards higher education as 'fancy' and praises the "down-to-earth" knowledge of getting your hands dirty and just getting stuff done however you can manage. |
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| 11:53.17 | cbreak-work | alestane: let me guess, those are the people who don't ever get stuff done. |
| 11:53.37 | alestane | On a different note, I have an SQL statement that's supposed to purge all records from a table unless their scores are in the top ten. Right now I have |
| 11:53.38 | alestane | DELETE FROM history WHERE happened NOT IN SELECT happened FROM history ORDER BY Score DESC LIMIT 10 |
| 11:54.02 | alestane | Is there a simpler way to phrase the where clause? |
| 11:54.28 | zenzio | personal preference perhaps, but isn't it cleaner to do the sub-select in parentheses? |
| 11:54.55 | cbreak-work | or you could make two queries, and just use a smaller then. |
| 11:55.00 | AcidWeb | http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/08/17/rebellion-suing-stardock-over-the-word-rebellion/ |
| 11:55.01 | AcidWeb | -.- |
| 11:55.05 | alestane | It might make the intent more readily obvious, I'll take it under consideration. |
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| 11:57.08 | Vladinator | ^^ |
| 11:57.09 | Kalrth | alestane: you could use top 10 instead of limit 10 |
| 11:57.53 | Kalrth | delete from history where happened not in (select top 10 happened from history order by history) |
| 11:58.02 | Kalrth | er, order by score :) |
| 11:58.28 | Kalrth | but apart from that, you can't really make it much more obvious what you're doing |
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| 12:00.14 | Vladinator | Torhal: aha you approved my wowi import projects :D |
| 12:01.53 | zenzio | I wonder what's up with my home connection today |
| 12:02.11 | Kalrth | did you forget to stop the horse porn torrents |
| 12:02.29 | zenzio | don't be stupid, I'm not into that |
| 12:02.38 | Kalrth | thats what they all say .. |
| 12:02.44 | zenzio | only regular girl-girl torrents running |
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| 12:18.45 | F16Gaming | so... my friend made this website with a comment section on it... http://depcnerd.nl/index.php?page=comment |
| 12:19.28 | F16Gaming | i thought he fixed those issues when i spammed his comment form yesterday :/ |
| 12:19.36 | F16Gaming | contact form* |
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| 12:19.57 | Kalrth | hehe |
| 12:21.51 | Fisker | hey Kalrth |
| 12:21.58 | F16Gaming | it's also vulnerable to SQL injections |
| 12:22.03 | Fisker | are you Faxe Kommune's new IT-neurosurgeon? |
| 12:22.16 | Kalrth | yes let me take a look at your brain |
| 12:22.25 | Fisker | no! |
| 12:30.03 | Ackis | wheee I log in and the last 2 rares from the molten front dailies are up :D |
| 12:30.11 | Ackis | I now have 6 rare spiders which I'll never use!! |
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| 12:34.07 | AcidWeb | Somebody have a moment to play two fast arenas on Mekkatorque? I need debug some code. |
| 12:34.21 | Lopeppeppy | Squeee, I'm the only one in my office today! I can have music and dance naked in the hallway. |
| 12:34.33 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: pics for uncle please |
| 12:34.51 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, so kind of you to keep his best interests in mind! :P |
| 12:35.05 | Ackis | :D |
| 12:35.11 | alestane | I find that at least as eerie as liberating, Peppy, although music improves nearly any day, 'tis true. |
| 12:36.58 | Lopeppeppy | alestane. Did you really just say it would be eerie for me to dance naked? Do I have to get Kat to kick your tail? Your imagination is broked! |
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| 12:37.27 | alestane | Not your dancing, dear, being alone in the office. I was insufficiently clear. |
| 12:37.39 | eidyia | morning all |
| 12:38.04 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, yes you were. *tease* It's weird to be the only person out of 7 who is in today, I admit. |
| 12:38.14 | Lopeppeppy | And I sit aaaaaallll the way at the back of the suite, bwa ha ha. |
| 12:39.05 | alestane | The only problem with dancing naked in the office is that it GUARANTEES someone will walk in unexpectedly. |
| 12:39.12 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. |
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| 12:40.09 | alestane | Where things go from there depends on whether your life's hidden director is creating a sex comedy or just plain porn. |
| 12:41.47 | Lopeppeppy | Totally random 80's cheesy porn, because that's my Spotify channel |
| 12:42.40 | zenzio | ohaithar peppy |
| 12:43.20 | alestane | I confess, I haven't seen enough porn to have any notion of relevant "vintages." |
| 12:43.38 | zenzio | "confess", eh? We see through your deception |
| 12:43.44 | Lopeppeppy | heya, zenzio |
| 12:44.08 | Lopeppeppy | I sort of like to watch cheesy 80's porn, it's hilarious. I have "Debby Does Dallas" on DVD to loan, alestane. Classic. |
| 12:44.15 | Lopeppeppy | Awful. Funny. The hair! |
| 12:44.23 | alestane | That one's notorious. |
| 12:44.50 | zenzio | I believe there have been not as successful remakes |
| 12:47.46 | Thunder_Child | 5:45 in the morning and it's already 71.....i hate the heat |
| 12:48.05 | zenzio | I actually haven't seen that one; in part because it's so old, and in part because it sounds like there's too much story |
| 12:49.27 | Vladinator | FauxScrollFrame_GetOffset can return decimals, so there is an issue if trying to get an offset and you have for example 1+offset i.e 1.5 |
| 12:49.35 | Vladinator | then your addon uses 1.5 and tries to look it up :P |
| 12:50.51 | Vladinator | any idea how I can do: if decimal < .5 then floor elseif decimal >= .5 then ceil |
| 12:51.34 | Vladinator | !lua tonumber(("."):split(tostring(52.4))[2]) |
| 12:51.34 | batbot | Vladinator: @ [string "return tonumber(("."):split(tostring(52.4))..."]:1: attempt to call method 'split' (a nil value) |
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| 12:53.48 | Vladinator | !lua 13.37%1 |
| 12:53.48 | batbot | Vladinator: > 0.37 |
| 12:53.49 | Vladinator | ;) |
| 12:56.42 | Vladinator | !lua format("%d", 13.37) |
| 12:56.43 | batbot | Vladinator: @ [string "return format("%d", 13.37)"]:1: attempt to call global 'format' (a nil value) |
| 12:56.50 | Vladinator | !lua string.format("%d", 13.37) |
| 12:56.50 | batbot | Vladinator: > 13 |
| 12:56.58 | Vladinator | any better ideas to strip decimals than that? |
| 12:58.42 | Amarande | hmmmmm ... |
| 12:58.51 | Amarande | !lua string.format ("%d", (13.37 + (1 * (13.37%1 > 0.5)))) |
| 12:58.52 | batbot | Amarande: @ [string "return string.format ("%d", (13.37 + (1 * (..."]:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on a boolean value |
| 12:59.05 | Amarande | Dammit. I'm pretty sure that works in C, but not in Lua apparently |
| 12:59.22 | Amarande | (also really should be >= 0.5) |
| 13:00.24 | Humbedooh | Amarande, that's because (a == a) evaluates to 1 in C, but true in Lua :\ |
| 13:00.44 | Amarande | Yeah, I'm not sure why they chose something clunky like Lua for WoW :P |
| 13:00.53 | Humbedooh | pfft, you |
| 13:00.57 | zenzio | I don't see how "(1 * (13.37%1 > 0.5))" would work in C, but then I'm more familiar with C++. I suppose C didn't care much for booleans |
| 13:00.58 | Amarande | It looks like you actually need a separate dedicated function there just to translate "true" into "1" |
| 13:01.14 | Humbedooh | Amarande, ooor....! |
| 13:01.16 | Amarande | actually, you really don't even need the 1 * there in C, either |
| 13:01.18 | Amarande | zenzio: in C, a boolean true would evaluate to 1 |
| 13:01.41 | Humbedooh | !lua string.format ("%d", (13.37 + (1 * (13.37%1 > 0.5 and 1 or 0)))) |
| 13:01.41 | batbot | Humbedooh: > 13 |
| 13:01.44 | AcidWeb | Anybody know easy way to translate localised race name string to race token? |
| 13:01.53 | Amarande | therefore, if the decimal part (using the equivalent C construct, of course) was 0.5 or greater, that calculation would result in adding 1 to the number, otherwise adding 0 |
| 13:02.00 | AcidWeb | There is easy way for classes but i dont see any for races |
| 13:02.03 | Amarande | allowing a correct truncation |
| 13:02.08 | zenzio | AcidWeb: with the localised string as input? |
| 13:02.20 | AcidWeb | Yes. |
| 13:02.21 | Amarande | yup, I think we've got it, Humbedooh :) |
| 13:02.38 | Humbedooh | Amarande, indeed - I use that sort all the time, I just forgot I did... :D |
| 13:02.43 | Amarande | !lua string.format ("%d", (14.62 + (1 * (14.62%1 > 0.5 and 1 or 0)))) |
| 13:02.44 | batbot | Amarande: > 15 |
| 13:04.33 | Amarande | dang. too bad I don't have any more need of upgrading my network infrastructure today. there's a 20% newegg coupon for Belkin cables |
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| 13:07.33 | Lopeppeppy | Whee, fire drill. |
| 13:07.41 | AcidWeb | zenzio: For classes i have LOCALIZED_CLASS_NAMES_MALE global. But I see that equivalent for the race dont exist ;/ |
| 13:08.10 | zenzio | AcidWeb: can't think of anything off the top of my head, and at work so I can't poke around the code :-| |
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| 13:43.57 | zenzio | "GNOME 2.32.0 Using it right now. Call me old fashioned, but I like a GUI that you can actually use, and even customize." -- "This is getting a bit ridiculous. Some people are starting to use any excuse to bash Unity/Gnome3 whatever." -- "They give us plenty of options for bashing. No reason to find "any excuse"." -- For any serious bashing, there is always /bin/bash." |
| 13:44.14 | zenzio | Slashdot can be amusing, especially on Friday afternoon |
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| 13:47.30 | alestane | checks Peppy's office for discarded clothes. |
| 13:47.45 | Vladinator | curseforge needs rss feeds, i.e. so I can track all my tickets or comments at once! |
| 13:47.55 | Vladinator | (when a new thing comes in I can see it and visit it :P) |
| 13:48.10 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: http://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/y8usy/new_addon_hosting_site_steals_authors_work/c5tk5jt read that thread? |
| 13:48.17 | Vladinator | wowi got comment feature that I use to check my latest addon comments, so helps me know when things are going on ^^ |
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| 13:58.31 | zenzio | "The metro UI though seems to be a ripoff of the ST:TNG gui without the curves." |
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| 14:02.27 | Amarande | gahhhh |
| 14:02.31 | Amarande | don't even try to compare Metro to LCARS |
| 14:05.39 | Ressy | Waiting on a call back from Convoke support. Hopefully they'll call back soon. |
| 14:06.33 | Kalrth | yeah, Metro isn't as terrible as LCARS |
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| 14:10.23 | zenzio | Ressy: Convoke? |
| 14:11.57 | Ressy | worldofaddon's host in Toronto, Canada. |
| 14:12.06 | Ressy | Local call for me. :) |
| 14:13.51 | zenzio | aha |
| 14:14.56 | Ressy | sent an email last night as well, which promises 24 hr response... |
| 14:14.59 | Ressy | But I'm impatient |
| 14:15.13 | Torhal | I want blood. |
| 14:15.17 | Torhal | Seriously. Gallons. |
| 14:15.49 | alestane | You ought to see a doctor about that, that's not normal. |
| 14:16.15 | Torhal | alestane: It's for painting the warning sign to the next group of assholes that decides to do this. |
| 14:16.58 | Ressy | While tucows has no choice but to comply with dmca - ie, pull registration, they can just register elsewhere.. |
| 14:17.22 | zenzio | tucows... now that's a name I've not heard in a long time... a long time... |
| 14:17.47 | Ressy | If Convoke complies, they'll need to find a new host. |
| 14:18.05 | Ressy | but in the meantime, site's offline. |
| 14:23.02 | prencher | zenzio: There's remain one of the world's biggest domain name registrars |
| 14:23.07 | prencher | They* |
| 14:23.27 | Dagmar | DMCA applies to domain registrations? |
| 14:23.31 | Dagmar | How does that work, exactly |
| 14:23.33 | zenzio | maybe so, but they used to be some kind of site before... software directory or something? |
| 14:23.40 | prencher | yeah, they had that too |
| 14:23.43 | zenzio | at least I heard the name a lot more ~10 years back |
| 14:23.46 | Dagmar | zenzio: Yeah, they used to be the "money for disk!" people |
| 14:24.17 | Dagmar | You have disk, you want money, you let them use some of your disk for their software index and software, they gief munnies. |
| 14:24.17 | prencher | You don't generally hear about them because all of their domain registrar stuff is typically done through partners or subsidiaries - they provide the backbone, let other people deal with the support and consumer transactions etc |
| 14:24.21 | prencher | stuff like hover.com is theirs |
| 14:24.45 | Dagmar | Tucows one cup |
| 14:24.58 | Blazeflack | lol |
| 14:26.07 | zenzio | lol |
| 14:42.17 | Fisker | lol |
| 14:42.52 | Fisker | no? |
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| 14:55.05 | Stanzilla | hey Fisker |
| 14:55.13 | Vladinator | :) |
| 14:55.13 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 14:55.19 | Acenth | hey Vlad |
| 14:55.22 | Fisker | hey Vladinator |
| 14:55.23 | Fisker | get newest steam beta |
| 14:55.23 | Adys | anyone used django-tastypie here? |
| 14:55.25 | Vladinator | hey |
| 14:55.32 | Vladinator | Fisker: what's new on it? |
| 14:55.33 | Fisker | i've used tastypie Adys |
| 14:55.41 | Fisker | reduced harddisk load on game updates |
| 14:55.42 | Fisker | DUN DUN DUN |
| 14:55.47 | Stanzilla | to fap in? |
| 14:56.53 | Vladinator | does curse.com have rss for addon comments? |
| 14:57.31 | Amarande | Dagmar: I'm guessing that the DMCA for domain registration comes into play for people who purchase their domain as part of their hosting agreement, so the AUP/TOS probably lets them revoke the registration along with their other account benefits? |
| 14:57.45 | Amarande | under circumstances that would get your site yanked, that is |
| 14:58.49 | quse | Is anyone using sThreatmeter2 on beta realms? |
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| 15:58.57 | Lopeppeppy | Unkle, you should thank Ackis. He represented your interests earlier in the matter of pornography. |
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| 16:05.05 | arton | yawns. |
| 16:05.27 | Torhal | Ackis: I posted in the Reddit thread! Yay! |
| 16:06.15 | arton | stuffs Torhal in his own kittens subreddit. |
| 16:06.32 | Torhal | Your kitten has a….wait, what? |
| 16:06.44 | arton | multiple kittens |
| 16:07.23 | arton | pussy even |
| 16:09.05 | arton | you should take it as a blessing-from-up-high and fix my project's bugs. :P |
| 16:10.56 | Torhal | arton: I'm thoroughly confused about that which you speak. |
| 16:11.41 | arton | Then my work is done. |
| 16:12.05 | Torhal | You mention kittens, pussy, a project and its bugs. |
| 16:12.14 | Lopeppeppy | Get the lysol |
| 16:12.14 | Torhal | So, yeah. No idea WTF just happened there. |
| 16:12.27 | Torhal | Lopeppeppy: That's SOOOOO 1920s |
| 16:12.44 | Lopeppeppy | Still works though. |
| 16:12.49 | Torhal | ROFL |
| 16:13.11 | arton | Kittens have their own subreddit. Kittens are pussies. Kittens placed bugs into my project. And you're going to help me fix the project. *nods* |
| 16:13.45 | arton | So mote it be. |
| 16:13.46 | Torhal | How, exactly, do kittens create bugs when they can't code? |
| 16:14.08 | Lopeppeppy | Kittens can friggin' teleport, they can code. |
| 16:14.10 | arton | Ever see what a cat can do with a keyboard? |
| 16:14.26 | Torhal | arton: asd07yhajlkfdgjsfmvhlsjdfsgjdhfsdfsdfsd |
| 16:14.31 | arton | lmao |
| 16:17.33 | TC-Work | Lopeppeppy: when Unkle finally notices your ping he is going to be like "Great. I shall expect the hookers, booze, and blow at my place by three." |
| 16:17.40 | Lopeppeppy | my cat can program better than Newest Coworker. |
| 16:18.06 | Dagmar | That's okay... We've got a NOC guy we may replace with a shell script that calls Festival over a VOIP link |
| 16:18.09 | Lopeppeppy | I expect he'll be hounding Ackis to find out what I'm blathering about, TC. Let the boys work it out amongst themselves. |
| 16:18.13 | Dagmar | ...because he has trouble reading from the _screen_ |
| 16:18.41 | Dagmar | "Hey, Paul... We've got an audio log warning on this server." "Audio log? You sure you don't mean AUDIT log?" |
| 16:18.49 | TC-Work | Lopeppeppy: yes, because /that's/ what boys are good at.... |
| 16:23.04 | Unkle | Wait, Ackis stood up for porn? |
| 16:23.32 | TC-Work | dont all men? |
| 16:23.47 | nilyaK | something gets up for porn... |
| 16:23.50 | Unkle | Sorry, crazy busy morning. Critical machine decided to die. |
| 16:24.08 | TC-Work | must be if it weas beating out porn |
| 16:24.17 | TC-Work | hmm...poor choice of words |
| 16:24.26 | TC-Work | was* |
| 16:24.38 | Unkle | Normally Lopeppeppy + Porn = full attention... but sadly work > porn |
| 16:24.59 | TC-Work | make cogwheel remote in and fix it |
| 16:25.36 | Unkle | This looks to have been hardware. :P |
| 16:25.58 | TC-Work | that does put a crink in that plan |
| 16:28.51 | Lopeppeppy | Work is worky. *huggle* |
| 16:29.13 | Torhal | Unkle: [07:34:21] <+Lopeppeppy> Squeee, I'm the only one in my office today! I can have music and dance naked in the hallway. |
| 16:29.15 | Torhal | Unkle: [07:34:33] <Ackis> Lopeppeppy: pics for uncle please |
| 16:29.16 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis. stood up. for porn. *giggling madly* Most likely, yes. |
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| 16:29.55 | alestane | Oops, she sillied herself off the Internet. |
| 16:30.05 | Torhal | Hahaha |
| 16:40.27 | eidyia | people store their code on github or elsewhere? |
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| 16:42.13 | alestane | There, she got the giggles cleaned off her keyboard. |
| 16:43.59 | Dagmar | eidyia: Yes! |
| 16:44.14 | Lopeppeppy | Fraggin' windows rebootery nonsense. |
| 16:44.17 | TC-Work | but not the gigity |
| 16:44.31 | eidyia | Dagmar - yes to github or yes to elsewhere? |
| 16:44.55 | TC-Work | i think the answer was yes to both |
| 16:45.01 | eidyia | ah |
| 16:45.02 | eidyia | :) |
| 16:46.21 | Jammer | eidyia: git is non-centralized, you can have your code on your own computer and push it to github when ready or whatever you prefer |
| 16:46.38 | Jammer | eidyia: I believe all the wow addon sites also offer free repositories for your code |
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| 16:50.49 | eidyia | yah - i use git for work, but wasn't sure if there was a standard in the wow ui community |
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| 17:04.41 | alestane | SVN or git are supported by the major author sites. |
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| 17:07.56 | Arrowmaster | curse also supports Hg but only the crazies use it |
| 17:14.30 | prencher | Arrowmaster: aka people that don't want to drive themselves insane by having to use the abysmal git cli |
| 17:16.04 | Dewin | Does anybody recall the URL to the login server alert message? |
| 17:16.20 | Dagmar | ~alertr |
| 17:16.26 | Dagmar | er... |
| 17:16.35 | Dagmar | ~alert |
| 17:16.35 | purl | I'm falling asleep listening to you boring morons... |
| 17:16.44 | Dewin | I normally just type 'alert' in my addressbar and it knows, but it's failing this time |
| 17:16.49 | Dagmar | purl knows, but it's being bitchy |
| 17:17.04 | Dagmar | ~status |
| 17:17.04 | purl | Since Mon Aug 6 19:44:48 2012, there have been 19 modifications, 618 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 437 commands. I have been awake for 10d 21h 32m 16s this session, and currently reference 118688 factoids. I'm using about 24160 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 3362.28/66.81 child 0/0 |
| 17:17.08 | Dagmar | screw it |
| 17:17.39 | Dewin | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert Google to the rescue |
| 17:18.04 | Dewin | WoW apparently didn't like me logging in, I crashed out midlogin and then half the realms were down |
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| 17:25.11 | g0urra | "There's a raging debate ove rwhether tanukis are raccoons or dogs, but the distinction seems trivial when they're gnawing on your femur." |
| 17:25.15 | g0urra | over whether* |
| 17:26.11 | Unkle | I don't think it matters much at all unless you're dressing as one ands gnawing on MY femur. Then the only thing that matters is "OMG GET IT OFF OF MY LEG!" |
| 17:30.32 | Lopeppeppy | Unkle - http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57491847/scouts-stone-rabid-beaver-to-death-after-attack/ |
| 17:31.08 | Lopeppeppy | No shit, there he was, swimming and minding his own business, when a beaver started gnawing on his femur... |
| 17:31.43 | Unkle | NOM NOM NOM NOM |
| 17:35.10 | Lopeppeppy | I live in these woods. Argh. |
| 17:40.24 | alestane | That's rabies for you. |
| 17:41.42 | Mr_Rabies | racist |
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| 17:44.24 | Dagmar | That's what happens when you people are lazy about waste water |
| 17:44.43 | Dagmar | Fucking bath salts get into the river and the next thing you know, zombie beavers. |
| 17:45.02 | Ressy | lol |
| 17:46.25 | Dagmar | Clearly those scouts were freaked out pretty good |
| 17:46.49 | Dagmar | I'd have expected they'd have just lit up an Off-Thrower and incinerated it |
| 17:47.59 | Dagmar | Wait... they had a pool noodle anywhere nearby. They must have been a bunch of 7-year old newbie scouts |
| 17:53.23 | Arrowmaster | doing 190mph in the lincoln tunnel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKmtGlMPheU&feature=youtu.be |
| 17:54.04 | Amarande | Dagmar: I thought it was Worcestershire sauce that made zombies :) |
| 17:54.32 | Lopeppeppy | I once killed a muskrat with a 7 inch stick. No pool noodles in my county. |
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| 18:09.42 | brykrys | mmm Worcestershire Sauce on Braaaaaaaaaains |
| 18:11.21 | Ressy | http://worldofaddons.com/features/claiming-and-removing-addons-world-addons |
| 18:11.35 | Ressy | gotta love how theres no way to comment |
| 18:12.03 | Ressy | They should just wipe & start from scratch |
| 18:13.28 | Lopeppeppy | "several" |
| 18:13.28 | Unkle | They should get down on their hands and knees and beg forgivness. |
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| 18:14.23 | Torhal | "We thank you for your understanding in this matter." |
| 18:14.26 | Torhal | WHAT understanding? |
| 18:14.29 | Torhal | These people are insane. |
| 18:14.47 | mckenziemc | comforts Torhal. |
| 18:15.09 | Lopeppeppy | "he could then edit, remove, and jeopardize addons..." Oh, like you stole and jeopardized them? |
| 18:15.14 | Ressy | lmao |
| 18:15.17 | Lopeppeppy | Fucking crazy bastards are splashing again. |
| 18:16.27 | Ressy | Seerah posted that link on wowi |
| 18:16.34 | Lopeppeppy | I mean, I'm not known for my good temper or anything, but FFS get over yourselves, apologize, and take the shit down. |
| 18:16.51 | Arrowmaster | seriously SUE THESE FUCKTARDS |
| 18:17.53 | Seerah | I also notice now that the comments on that spark page are hidden by default and you have to click to show them (that's not just me, is it?) |
| 18:18.00 | Ressy | no Seerah |
| 18:18.05 | Torhal | Seerah: They did that yesterday |
| 18:18.05 | Ressy | not just you |
| 18:18.11 | Seerah | yeah, I noticed it last night |
| 18:18.17 | Ressy | I wonder how Kaelten's doing with Curse's lawyers |
| 18:19.07 | Arrowmaster | i really hope he did decide to talk to them |
| 18:19.10 | Lopeppeppy | fumes quietly and plots incendiary intervention! |
| 18:19.57 | Ressy | Don't forget to submit DMCA notices to Google |
| 18:20.08 | Ressy | get worldofaddons knocked out of 'wow addon' searches |
| 18:21.01 | Torhal | Blood. Gallons. For the win. |
| 18:21.57 | Arrowmaster | 1. Sue them 2. Profit |
| 18:22.04 | eidyia | this is just like what happened with theoatmeal.com |
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| 18:24.37 | Silvanas | stoopid blizz found my login attempt at my work pc, suspecius and decided to block my account completely |
| 18:25.08 | Ressy | You just gotta change your pw, chang eit back, and log in again |
| 18:25.38 | Silvanas | yeh but to recover it i had to dig up my old BC box to find the first 6 digits of the cd key |
| 18:26.00 | Silvanas | and my email of my interternet provider is down so i cant complete the process >< |
| 18:30.19 | cbreak | Silvanas: that's because battle.net accounts have a more paranoid security model than online banking. |
| 18:31.26 | durcyn | online banking is insufficiently paranoid, not the inverse |
| 18:33.25 | Arrowmaster | pompy |
| 18:34.14 | quse | I really hope some lawyer punches these TTH idiots straight in the face |
| 18:34.31 | quse | Don't they have some sort of legal team that gives them council? |
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| 18:35.08 | Arrowmaster | quse: they should but its rather obvious they dont right now |
| 18:36.05 | quse | I just can't believe that whoever their legal people are haven't hopped on the batphone and advised them to knock it off. |
| 18:36.17 | Dagmar | Online banking is generally just fuckin' lazy |
| 18:36.26 | Ressy | Got off the phone with their host |
| 18:36.33 | Ressy | They provide Notice & Notice. |
| 18:36.35 | Dagmar | If it werne't for PCI requirements, most of their sites would just ask for your name and account number. |
| 18:36.45 | Ressy | If you file a DMCA to Convoke, they'll forward it to the customer. |
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| 18:36.55 | Ressy | Thats their extent. |
| 18:37.46 | Ressy | so.. tucows & google. |
| 18:38.04 | Ressy | and convoke if you wanna go that way for removal. |
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| 18:38.46 | Ressy | but going convoke route won't get much done. |
| 18:39.07 | Lopeppeppy | It's still paperwork to annoy someone, and prove your point later on if you have to. |
| 18:39.16 | Ressy | nods |
| 18:39.28 | Ressy | I told the guy to expect a few hundred DMCA notices. |
| 18:41.28 | Arrowmaster | pompy! |
| 18:41.51 | Ackis | HA AH HA my wife willl be happy! I did laundry so she doesn't have to do it tonight :D |
| 18:42.36 | Lopeppeppy | Very nice, Ackis. |
| 18:43.09 | Ackis | usually I don't have that kind of energy after two hours at the YMCA |
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| 18:51.33 | Lopeppeppy | I really, really hate having to tell the IT guys that I do mean exactly what I say in my help tickets. If I say a user needs read access to a folder, it's because they need to read everything recursive in that folder, not just the index page. *head desk* I want to be able to set my own permissons again! |
| 18:52.47 | Dagmar | Send them obfuscated shell script to run |
| 18:53.09 | Unkle | sets Lopeppeppy's permissions to "Read Only" for everyone. |
| 18:56.10 | Amarande | Stealth slip code into one of their WoW addons to make their Ready Check buttons read "Pregnant" or "Not Pregnant" :) |
| 18:56.30 | Mr_Rabies | <Ackis> usually I don't have that kind of energy after two hours at the YMCA |
| 18:56.33 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NafMcawuMM4 |
| 18:57.07 | Lopeppeppy | No, I sent back, "That's nice, but they can't open any of the items linked there..." |
| 18:58.39 | Arrowmaster | Mr_Rabies: you saw gundam style right? |
| 18:58.45 | Mr_Rabies | yes |
| 18:58.56 | Mr_Rabies | best ever |
| 18:59.17 | Arrowmaster | it just had to happen |
| 18:59.33 | Mr_Rabies | the dude's mobile suit choices are legit too |
| 18:59.44 | Mr_Rabies | making the guy in the yellow suit the hyaku shiki, best ever |
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| 19:15.23 | Adys | omg |
| 19:15.31 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj9eRszNhvg&feature=youtu.be |
| 19:15.43 | Adys | low-res reconstruction of curiosity's landing with the images |
| 19:16.11 | Adys | http://youtu.be/ya5yUmViiSo same in high res (much shorter) |
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| 19:29.00 | Arrowmaster | http://www.dorkly.com/comic/42862/videogame-companies-are-your-friends |
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| 19:34.21 | Arrowmaster` | what the fuck timewarner |
| 19:34.50 | Primer | TW's been sucking a lot lately |
| 19:34.58 | cbreak | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/08/private-justice-how-hollywood-money-put-a-brit-behind-bars |
| 19:35.15 | Arrowmaster | in my cablemodems logs everytime i get disconnected "Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - Re- initializing MAC" |
| 19:35.30 | Primer | I dropped them a while back when their border with AT&T became so saturated at peak hours that I couldn't play online games |
| 19:35.37 | Primer | because every game went through that border |
| 19:35.58 | Primer | we have TW here at the office. Right around 3PM my ssh sessions to AWS lag like crazy |
| 19:36.12 | Primer | and it's that same border |
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| 19:45.15 | Erodros | Ok, so I have been using CreateFrame() instead of the XML file for making my windows. But I am curious, what is faster/more effecent? Using the global string name for the frame, or the local pointer? |
| 19:46.33 | Primer | Supposedly a local variable |
| 19:47.11 | Primer | But I always wondered why that was the case. I guess it has to do with table lookups |
| 19:47.12 | wereHamster | anybody use the curse client for mac? |
| 19:47.16 | wereHamster | is it any good? |
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| 19:55.23 | Stanzilla | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/232891-new-mists-of-pandaria-function-for-aoe-loot/ |
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| 20:04.04 | wereHamster | what do you use to update your addons? the curse client sucks... |
| 20:09.32 | Fisker | woa shill? |
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| 20:12.42 | Jammer | wereHamster: what's wrong with curse client? :p |
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| 20:13.26 | wereHamster | Jammer: google 'curse client mac network connection lost' and you'll see. |
| 20:13.46 | wereHamster | basically it spamms these 'network connection lost' popups and I can't even close it other than kill -9 |
| 20:14.50 | Fisker | have you tried installing windows ? |
| 20:17.32 | Erodros | SetMinMaxValues on a status bar works hand in hand with SetSize? That is if SetWidth(100) and you do SetMinMaxValues(0,10), then you do a SetValue(5), it will change the Width to 50 correct? |
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| 20:22.15 | TC-Work | http://www.indiegogo.com/teslamuseum this |
| 20:23.55 | Fisker | i disagree TC-Work |
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| 20:24.43 | TC-Work | no you dont Fisker, you just want to troll |
| 20:24.53 | Fisker | nope TC-Work |
| 20:24.58 | TC-Work | yes Fisker |
| 20:25.05 | mckenziemc | hey TC-Work |
| 20:25.12 | Fisker | nope TC-Work |
| 20:25.13 | TC-Work | mckenziemc |
| 20:25.15 | TC-Work | yes Fisker |
| 20:25.22 | Fisker | nope TC-Work |
| 20:25.26 | TC-Work | yes Fisker |
| 20:25.32 | Fisker | nope TC-Work |
| 20:25.37 | TC-Work | yes Fisker |
| 20:25.48 | g0urra | yes Fisker |
| 20:25.55 | Fisker | nope TC-Work and nope g0urra |
| 20:26.00 | g0urra | yes Fisker |
| 20:26.02 | TC-Work | yes Fisker |
| 20:26.08 | Fisker | nope TC-Work and nope g0urra |
| 20:26.15 | TC-Work | yes Fisker |
| 20:30.38 | Fisker | (nope) |
| 20:38.00 | TC-Work | ~lart Fisker |
| 20:38.00 | purl | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets Fisker feel it |
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| 21:36.49 | Ressy | Email back from Convoke: http://pastebin.com/MME0RytK |
| 21:41.19 | Torhal | [16:40:23] <Repo> libqtip-1-0: torhal * r153 LibQTip-1.0.toc: |
| 21:41.19 | Torhal | [16:40:24] <Repo> Update ToC Interface to 40300 just to say "Fuck off" to World of Addons. Take my shit off of your goddamn page, you thieving assholes. |
| 21:41.31 | End_ | to which I said |
| 21:41.33 | End_ | "hahaha" |
| 21:41.36 | Torhal | lol |
| 21:41.44 | End_ | :P |
| 21:42.07 | Ressy | lol |
| 21:42.10 | Unkle | Torhal - Need a whiskey, bor? |
| 21:42.27 | Torhal | Unkle: Sure. And buckets of blood. |
| 21:42.46 | Unkle | Blood and whiskey! |
| 21:43.08 | Cairenn | Ressy: http://www.digital-copyright.ca/ |
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| 21:46.02 | Cairenn | sorry, wrong link |
| 21:46.03 | Cairenn | http://www.cipo.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/cipointernet-internetopic.nsf/eng/h_wr00003.html?OpenDocument |
| 21:46.49 | TC-Work | I was hoping it was another oops link that leads to spiky boots and whips and whatnot |
| 21:46.56 | Cairenn | lol |
| 21:47.28 | Ressy | Cairenn, You kow of CIPPIC? |
| 21:48.06 | Cairenn | TC-Work: just for you: http://www.zaphonshoes.com/5-inch-heel-knee-boot-whip-511-sadie.html |
| 21:48.52 | Ressy | I'm emailing a lawyer friend at CIPPIC to see if theres anything that can be done to speed things up. |
| 21:49.00 | Cairenn | *nod* |
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| 21:52.54 | TC-Work | I approve, but the knees should be padded.... |
| 21:52.59 | Torhal | ... |
| 21:53.34 | TC-Work | and i think both whips should be mounted on the outside of the boot |
| 21:54.07 | TC-Work | oh, they are different boots, nvm me |
| 21:54.30 | Torhal | I can see it now: "Thunder_Child, designer to the Dominatrices." |
| 21:55.47 | TC-Work | Sounds fine by me |
| 21:56.07 | Cairenn | imo they should be taller |
| 21:56.44 | TC-Work | but they are knee-highs. Thigh-highs would be a different product |
| 21:59.55 | Torhal | headdesks. |
| 22:00.02 | Torhal | http://o7.no/Pk1pwO <-- OMFG. |
| 22:00.31 | Torhal | Cairenn: ^ |
| 22:01.13 | Torhal | I actually don't know everything they have, I've just searched on "torhal" and "callahan" and found stuff based on commit notes. |
| 22:01.14 | Torhal | Meh. |
| 22:01.18 | Cairenn | http://s.wowinterface.com/storage/cairennsmilies/mad.gif |
| 22:02.18 | Ressy | Anything to add to this: http://pastebin.com/NETE97Ub |
| 22:04.11 | Cairenn | Looks good to me Ressy |
| 22:04.22 | Adys | This smothering ocean of high-pressure meat would wipe out most life on the planet, which could—to reddit’s horror—threaten the integrity of the DNS system. |
| 22:04.27 | Adys | Well |
| 22:04.33 | Adys | if anything ever belonged in /r/nocontext.. |
| 22:06.04 | Arrowmaster | Ressy: i would change it to say most authors are either in the US or europe |
| 22:06.26 | Ressy | I just added a sentence. |
| 22:06.27 | Ressy | A US company, with a Canadian registrar (Tucows), and a Canadian ISP & host scraped another site of copyrighted content, without any of the authors' permission, and hosted it all on their own site so they can make money via excessive ads & a premium subscription. Of course nothing is going back to the authors, and their works aren't even being attributed to them. When authors complained, |
| 22:06.27 | Ressy | the company said that they contacted the authors with "if you fail to respond to this by x date, we'll take it as permission to take & post your material". |
| 22:06.45 | Ressy | ok. |
| 22:07.21 | Ressy | "The authors are mostly US & European citizens.." |
| 22:09.36 | Unkle | downloading and installing 599.7MB of updates. Windows, I hate you right now. |
| 22:11.12 | Cairenn | I just don't understand how they think they can get away with this. Even if they can claim they don't have to honour DMCA because they are here in Canada, they are full of shit. Canada is a signatory of the Berne Convention, among other things, which means we uphold other countries copyright laws |
| 22:11.19 | Ressy | sent |
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| 22:11.54 | Arrowmaster | like i said, since day one we could have just sued them and got over 1mil in damages |
| 22:12.01 | Ressy | What about sending a DMCA request to the head company.. |
| 22:12.04 | Unkle | Like many people who run afoul of the law, they hope it'll juat "go away." |
| 22:12.05 | Ressy | They're registered in Texas |
| 22:12.11 | cbreak | Unkle: you better obey! Or windows will restart itself under your ass while you're debugging a hard-to-reproduce problem by single stepping through the program in a debugger |
| 22:12.18 | cbreak | (yes, it did that to me...) |
| 22:12.50 | Unkle | cbreak I'm setting up a new machine to replace one which is crashing for no really good reason... So, yeah. |
| 22:12.59 | cbreak | Cairenn: DMCA is a US Only thing |
| 22:13.14 | Cairenn | cbreak: I realize that, re-read what I said |
| 22:13.16 | Ressy | Shouldn't the head office have to comply with DMCA tho? |
| 22:13.16 | Torhal | Ok, anythig I should add to this? http://o7.no/OtlbBy |
| 22:13.17 | cbreak | it allows service providers to not be liable |
| 22:13.29 | Cairenn | no, it doesn't |
| 22:13.32 | cbreak | so you can for example go to a domain name registrar |
| 22:13.38 | cbreak | and ask them to remove things |
| 22:13.48 | cbreak | and they'd not be responsible |
| 22:13.57 | cbreak | or hosting provider, or what ever |
| 22:14.06 | TC-Work | Unkle: updates are for work or home? |
| 22:14.33 | Cairenn | it's all cogwheel's fault! |
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| 22:14.42 | Cairenn | (if it's for work) |
| 22:14.50 | Ressy | File a DMCA request straight to Master Games International, Inc? |
| 22:15.15 | Unkle | It's for work, but this most assuredly is "NOT HIS FAULT." Since... well, it's just frelling bizzare. |
| 22:15.25 | Torhal | Cairenn, Ressy: http://o7.no/OtlbBy <-- good enough, or should I say more? |
| 22:15.34 | TC-Work | Unkle: wsus |
| 22:15.40 | Ressy | Torhal, I like. Especially last paragraph |
| 22:15.51 | Cairenn | was reading it over |
| 22:15.58 | Cairenn | (repeatedly) |
| 22:16.28 | Cairenn | I just want to go smack people upside the head with a reality check |
| 22:16.35 | Cairenn | it reads fine |
| 22:16.53 | Torhal | Alrighty, thankyes. |
| 22:18.24 | Cairenn | hahahhaha |
| 22:18.25 | Cairenn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZQVSMZjWyA |
| 22:20.02 | Cairenn | (sorry, figured we could all use a laugh right about now) |
| 22:20.07 | TinyCog | Unkle: you should've added it to the domain first |
| 22:20.14 | TinyCog | it would've gotten all the updates from the local server :P |
| 22:20.37 | TC-Work | now you tell him |
| 22:23.00 | Unkle | Actually, I did add it first. But then I installed office. |
| 22:24.37 | Cairenn | Unkle: big meanie! I wanna blame cog, why u spoil my fun? |
| 22:25.23 | TinyCog | i'll blame me if you want! |
| 22:25.30 | TinyCog | slaps his wrist |
| 22:25.39 | Cairenn | thanks TinyCog |
| 22:26.52 | Stanzilla | Fisker: 305.68 WHQL |
| 22:26.52 | Stanzilla | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.54 | Stanzilla | http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/win7-winvista-64bit-305.68-whql-driver-uk.html |
| 22:28.02 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: ^ |
| 22:28.55 | Stanzilla | god damn |
| 22:29.02 | Stanzilla | 660ti only again |
| 22:29.06 | Stanzilla | nvm guys |
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| 22:31.13 | Unkle | TinyCog is a glutton for punishment. |
| 22:31.25 | arton | Jetson, you're fired. |
| 22:31.40 | Torhal | inserts bugs in arton's project. |
| 22:31.48 | arton | :( |
| 22:32.30 | TinyCog | me so masochisty |
| 22:32.32 | Torhal | Just crickets, man. Chill. |
| 22:35.19 | TC-Work | no need to hurt yourself TinyCog |
| 22:35.27 | TC-Work | Let your friends do that |
| 22:36.17 | Torhal | join #gimp |
| 22:36.24 | Torhal | :D |
| 22:37.09 | Unkle | Friends let friends do damage. |
| 22:46.47 | Unkle | http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/176180/OnLive_lays_off_all_employees.php |
| 22:50.40 | Cairenn | Yeah, been hearing about that all day |
| 22:50.55 | Cairenn | If true, sucks |
| 22:51.46 | Unkle | *nod* |
| 22:52.03 | Unkle | Not that I ever used thier service, but the idea of it was ultra cool. |
| 22:52.14 | Arrowmaster | didnt they just start some promotion today too |
| 22:53.21 | Arrowmaster | yeah http://blog.onlive.com/2012/08/17/indie-weekend-2-twice-as-nice/ |
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| 22:59.51 | TC-Work_ | well that was a bad time to D/C |
| 23:01.08 | TC-Work | by jove i think my home pc restarted |
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| 23:03.55 | TC-Work | waves @ Thunder_Child |
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| 23:21.58 | Arrowmaster | http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6352745857#4 |
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| 23:32.02 | batrick | Happy Birthday MMOUI |
| 23:34.15 | Unkle | Well, that only took like... forever. |
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| 23:49.35 | Jammer | is taintlog setting saved or do I need to enable it after login / restart again? |
| 23:52.11 | Ackis | new license use for Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/licenses/259-ackis-all-rights-reserved/ (if anyone wants to take after it) |
| 23:52.14 | Sintacks | I believe it's saved, but i'm not sure |
| 23:52.46 | Sintacks | Server not found Firefox can't find the server at www.wowace.com. |
| 23:52.49 | Sintacks | D: |
| 23:52.59 | Sintacks | and lol @ how badly that was formated |
| 23:53.47 | Sintacks | the last line is good, Ackis |
| 23:54.07 | Ressy | definitely. |
| 23:54.08 | Arrowmaster | except for the spelling mistake |
| 23:54.39 | Sintacks | yeah. and the grammar |
| 23:54.44 | Ackis | bastards |
| 23:54.51 | Sintacks | and the fact that WoA wouldn't give a shit about it |
| 23:54.58 | Ackis | the last line is for when I off myself/get hit by a bus |
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| 23:55.07 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: what spelling mistake? |
| 23:55.11 | Ackis | Sintacks: what grammer? |
| 23:55.13 | Arrowmaster | in the last line |
| 23:55.16 | Sintacks | lol =p |
| 23:55.23 | Ressy | Still waiting to hear back from the lawyer.. He mailed me back an hour ago, saying it might come down to you guys filing suit against them, or at least having a lawyer threaten to. |
| 23:55.46 | Sintacks | I just think the word "also" should be between "which" and "must" |
| 23:55.49 | Sintacks | but tuhat's just me |
| 23:55.55 | g0urra | Ackis: who is Tohal? |
| 23:56.02 | Sintacks | ^ |
| 23:56.10 | Jammer | Ackis: interesting you're specifically forbidding people from editing their own addons |
| 23:56.15 | Ressy | He's with CIPPIC - They look out for the public intrist in Canada when it comes to legalities and they're pro bono. |
| 23:56.24 | Sintacks | hmm. curse links to zybez o.O |
| 23:57.08 | Sintacks | You guys should file a class action |
| 23:57.12 | Sintacks | if you even can |
| 23:57.15 | Sintacks | cuz fuck WoA |
| 23:57.18 | Torhal | Cairenn, Ressy: Still exchanging e-mails, and he is still insisting that I tell him if I'm the only and original author for my works (and you know many authors work together on projects). Here's what I have written up so far: http://o7.no/Pkigja |
| 23:57.21 | Arrowmaster | Jammer: if you are referring to people that download it not being allowed to edit it for personal use, ARR already does that |
| 23:57.22 | Ackis | Jammer: how am I doing that? |
| 23:57.55 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: just get the curse lawyers |
| 23:58.22 | Jammer | Arrowmaster: even for personal use? |
| 23:58.24 | Torhal | Jammer: That's considered Fair Use. |
| 23:58.34 | Torhal | You can mod your own shit, just don't give it to others. |
| 23:59.07 | Sintacks | heh. the way Ackis worded it does forbid you from editing it after you download it, even for personal use. |
| 23:59.17 | Sintacks | but Ackis isn't going to goa fter someone for editing their own addon |
| 23:59.29 | Torhal | Sintacks: Sure he will. He has keyloggers, you know. |
| 23:59.35 | Ressy | lol |
| 23:59.55 | Sintacks | o |
