| 00:00.38 | kd3 | hm |
| 00:00.42 | kd3 | starts pricing out HDDs |
| 00:01.03 | kd3 | my current raid's nearing 5 years old and the other end of the bathtub curve is coming soon |
| 00:05.55 | Amarande | any negative reports from SMART yet? |
| 00:06.13 | kd3 | ayup, one's got a few reallocated sectors |
| 00:09.05 | Amarande | yup, the moment you get those is time to get a new one |
| 00:12.50 | kd3 | I almost want to get a NAS, right up until the moment I realize that I'm on wifi... >.> |
| 00:13.24 | kd3 | s/realize/remember/ |
| 00:15.09 | TC-Work | hard plug it in? |
| 00:15.23 | kd3 | 6x3TB in raid6... $900 at minimum for the drives alone |
| 00:15.24 | kd3 | eek |
| 00:15.30 | kd3 | looks at 2TB disks instead |
| 00:16.12 | kd3 | though not that 2TB drives are much better |
| 00:16.52 | Amarande | kd3: wireless G or N? |
| 00:16.57 | kd3 | g |
| 00:17.07 | Amarande | heh, maybe go to N900 and then get a NAS :) |
| 00:17.09 | kd3 | though I've got room on my desk, I could just run a 1m cat 6 |
| 00:17.45 | Amarande | heh, newegg has refurbished hard drives on their daily deal today |
| 00:17.57 | Amarande | refurb hard drives ... does one really want some random person's porn collection :P |
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| 01:47.48 | Torhal | Ok, folks…time to file your takedown notices: http://worldofaddons.com/ |
| 01:47.59 | Torhal | They're hosting a fuckton of AddOns without permission. |
| 01:48.32 | TC-Work | and they seem to have issues with spaces |
| 01:48.35 | Alram | sends them a Torhal notice |
| 01:49.24 | Sintacks | heh.. 0% is easier than we were expecting |
| 01:49.50 | Torhal | They're hosting without permission and have a "Claim your AddOn!" section. |
| 01:50.01 | Torhal | I saw this coming, but hoped they wouldn't pull such a dick move. |
| 01:50.02 | Torhal | Cairenn: ^ |
| 01:50.27 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:50.45 | Cairenn | omfg, they go beyond just "claim your addon" |
| 01:50.51 | Torhal | Yup |
| 01:50.58 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:51.01 | Amarande | btw, are friends addons going to be breaking with 5.0.4 due to the BattleTag support being added? |
| 01:51.02 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:51.03 | Sintacks | they have an addon manager too... |
| 01:51.08 | Sintacks | and i bet they have a shit ton of ads all over the place |
| 01:51.10 | Cairenn | I don't have time to deal with this shit right now |
| 01:51.50 | Sintacks | they shouldn't, Amarande, but idk what apis are being chagned, if any |
| 01:51.54 | Torhal | They have screenshots and verbatim descriptions too |
| 01:51.55 | Torhal | Fuckers. |
| 01:52.03 | Cairenn | >< |
| 01:52.07 | Amarande | well, I remember when RealID came out, friends addons didn't like it much |
| 01:52.35 | Torhal | Ackis, pompy: ^ |
| 01:52.36 | Amarande | (also, does three distinct and separate types of friend list seem a little much to any of you, too?) |
| 01:54.05 | Cairenn | I absolutely do not fucking have time for this |
| 01:54.27 | Torhal | Cairenn: Sorry :/ |
| 01:57.14 | Cairenn | not your fault sweetie :) |
| 01:57.20 | Cairenn | I appreciate the heads up |
| 01:57.30 | Cairenn | I'm mad at them, not you |
| 01:57.30 | Sintacks | © Copyright 2000 - 2012 Master Games International. |
| 01:57.31 | Sintacks | wat |
| 01:57.35 | pompy | torhal? sweetie? idk about that! ;) |
| 01:57.41 | Cairenn | WTF? Seriously? |
| 01:57.49 | Sintacks | at the bottom of the page |
| 01:57.58 | Sintacks | below a giant link to tentonhammer |
| 01:58.08 | kd3 | and 'powered by playerscore' |
| 01:58.28 | Cairenn | we did know it was coming |
| 01:58.29 | Torhal | Scumbags. |
| 01:58.31 | Sintacks | I don't see TenTonHammer doing something this "bold" and stupid |
| 01:58.37 | Sintacks | or didn't see it |
| 01:58.55 | Cairenn | just wish they had waited until a better time for me to deal with it :p |
| 01:59.01 | pompy | Torhal: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/gearscore/ time to kill this page then |
| 01:59.10 | Cairenn | big time |
| 01:59.26 | Amarande | wow |
| 01:59.34 | Amarande | we should have kicked gearscore to the curb in the LK days |
| 01:59.48 | Amarande | Master Games International has been nothing but wailing and sorrow for WoW |
| 01:59.52 | Sintacks | heh. I like the addon now... gives a lot of useful info |
| 02:00.27 | Amarande | first they made it ludicrously difficult for people to get in a pug raid in the late months of LK because they put out a crappy addon that too many raid leaders took as gospel so you practically had to have heroic25 gear to do normal10 |
| 02:00.36 | Amarande | now they have this :P |
| 02:00.56 | Sintacks | I will admit GearScore in 3.3.3 was pretty bad. |
| 02:00.59 | Amarande | Sintacks: that's because they ripped off Elitist Group, though |
| 02:01.20 | Sintacks | But playerscore now, isn't bad. 1) because no one uses the info, and 2) because what Amarande just said... they "copied" what Elitist Group was doing |
| 02:01.32 | Sintacks | Though, Elitist Group stopped being updated before hand, so i'm glad there was a replaceent |
| 02:01.58 | Amarande | I haven't used a gearvaluator addon since LK :S |
| 02:02.05 | Sintacks | lol. |
| 02:02.07 | Amarande | and really, even then, only to be able to tell why I wiped in HHoR this time |
| 02:02.19 | Sintacks | I like knowing if people are in PvP gear or are missing a bunch of gems |
| 02:02.36 | Amarande | yeah, leaving a gem slot empty is just tacky |
| 02:02.52 | Amarande | though there's probably people who use it to insist that everyone have all epic gems |
| 02:03.03 | Amarande | despite the fact that even my raid GM advised I stick to blue grade gems :P |
| 02:03.25 | Amarande | the epic ones cost too much this time around because of how they decided to introduce them |
| 02:03.31 | Amarande | it |
| 02:03.40 | Amarande | 's literally something like 10,000+g just for gems if you go with epic ones now |
| 02:05.04 | xyphoid | it's a handy tool for determining people who have better gearing than me (elitist no life nerds) or people who have worse gear than me (lazy pubbie n00bs) |
| 02:07.12 | Amarande | I'm not sure what possessed them to not let you buy epic gems for justice or even valor this time :S |
| 02:07.31 | Amarande | Even in BC, where epic gems were also painful to get compared to LK, you could at least buy them with badges eventually |
| 02:08.58 | Amarande | xyph: do we even know that it's not got something or other malicious hidden in it though? given that now we know that we can't consider MGI to be honest? |
| 02:10.16 | Sintacks | PlayerScore doesn't show gem quality, just if you are missing. same with enchants. |
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| 02:10.19 | Amarande | ah |
| 02:10.24 | Amarande | speaking on that epic gem thing too |
| 02:10.29 | Sintacks | the only "you're doing it wrong" it does, if PvP, wrong gear for spec, or missing items |
| 02:10.32 | Amarande | you know, if they'd let you buy epic gems for justice in cata |
| 02:10.40 | Sintacks | yeah, i agree. i don't know why they didn't do that |
| 02:10.48 | Sintacks | it makes gemming an alt annoying |
| 02:10.59 | Amarande | it would probably have been a LOT more effective for cutting queue times than cta that only seems to cut them a little and meanwhile causes lots of divisiveness among players |
| 02:11.09 | Sintacks | I have 22 queen's and one Lava Coral on my rogue ... |
| 02:11.40 | Amarande | Tanks would be a lot more inclined to queue if there was all the extra gold in it from that |
| 02:12.57 | Amarande | also, since you have to kill all the bosses in a heroic to get your full complement of JP, it would encourage tanks to not try to skip as much of the instance as possible (whereas the satchel encourages them to do just that) |
| 02:14.00 | Amarande | Sintacks: it's also making PvP players and JCs fuming too |
| 02:14.19 | Amarande | PvP players feel unable to make use of the JC market, due to the high cost of gems making them pushed to buy pre-cut gems with PvP points instead |
| 02:14.36 | Amarande | JCs find themselves with a much more limited market because they can't sell to PvP players profitably for the same reason |
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| 02:26.12 | F16Gaming | why do people create tickets with type "Patch" when they don't supply any patch files? |
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| 02:34.27 | Arrowmaster | i swear im plagued by "The Ranch Dip Inversion Field" problem |
| 02:35.00 | Arrowmaster | whenever i have ranch dip in the house i never have any chips to eat, and whenever i have chips that i think would go great with ranch dip i never have ranch dip |
| 02:36.41 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: In case you mised it, worldofaddons.com went live today, and they went the shady route. |
| 02:37.05 | Arrowmaster | do i need to send any ceise and desist notices |
| 02:37.48 | Arrowmaster | oh hey OneBank3 |
| 02:38.10 | Arrowmaster | great job guys, you steal one of the worst possible addons to steal |
| 02:38.34 | Arrowmaster | the addon with an author that has imediate access to corporate lawyers |
| 02:38.56 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: They have Ace3, LibStub... |
| 02:39.21 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: SEND THE TAKEDOWN NOTICES! |
| 02:39.39 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://pastebin.com || 4.3.x ToC: 40300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || MoP Beta UI/API Changes forum: http://bit.ly/GMjEVC. Feel free to post what you find! || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || MoP Release Date 25 Sept 2012 || Blizzard Hacked: http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/securityupdate.html || Time to file your C&Ds and DCMAs folks: http://worldofaddons.com/ |
| 02:40.06 | F16Gaming | hm, with the change to BNGetToonInfo, is the 6th argument (faction, string) localized? and is FACTION_HORDE/ALLIANCE also localized? |
| 02:40.22 | Arrowmaster | oh i see gathermate2 and handynotes |
| 02:41.26 | Arrowmaster | basicchatmods *ping Funkeh`* |
| 02:41.36 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: He knows :) |
| 02:41.47 | Funkeh` | ? |
| 02:42.02 | Funkeh` | oh |
| 02:43.12 | alestane | 'Claim your Addons'? Seriously? |
| 02:44.01 | Torhal | alestane: Worse than that, you have the option to download your AddOn from another site... |
| 02:44.07 | Torhal | "your" |
| 02:44.11 | Esamynn | ??? |
| 02:44.44 | Esamynn | oh |
| 02:44.53 | Esamynn | they never learn, do they |
| 02:44.59 | Torhal | Newp. |
| 02:45.21 | alestane | I 'love' the whole attitude of "We might have your addon without your knowledge, so please get on board and sign up!" |
| 02:45.29 | Arrowmaster | hmm did i ever maintain http://www.worldofaddons.com/wow/fubarbagfu |
| 02:47.12 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: so what are you doing? sending takedown notices or have you tried claiming an addon then seeing if you can remove it? |
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| 02:48.05 | Ackis | Torhal: you dealing with it? |
| 02:48.59 | Arrowmaster | oh they got Chatter, i commited enough to that that i should be able to issue a takedown request |
| 02:49.06 | Funkeh` | I don't feel like registering to their site to "claim" my addon |
| 02:49.11 | Funkeh` | if that's the only way to have it remove |
| 02:49.35 | Arrowmaster | i bet you cant even remove it that way |
| 02:49.35 | Amarande | Heh. Maybe they should offer you a free Nintendo PolyStation with signup :P |
| 02:50.02 | Ackis | https://twitter.com/worldofaddons |
| 02:50.09 | Ackis | owned my tentonhammer |
| 02:50.10 | Arrowmaster | probably the only way to remove is to send a C&D/takedown |
| 02:50.23 | Ackis | Kaelten tweeted them to remove his stuff |
| 02:50.30 | Amarande | (I only wish I was joking about the existence of such a thing. I just looked at this collection of 50 pics of knockoff game consoles, some of them are hilarious :P) |
| 02:50.41 | Arrowmaster | i should tweet them and ask where to send my DMCA takedown requests |
| 02:50.45 | Kaelten | sent them an email on their contact us form |
| 02:51.00 | Cairenn | Iriel: http://worldofaddons.com/ |
| 02:51.16 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Going to tally up what of mine they have then send a DMCA takedown. |
| 02:51.25 | Torhal | Ackis: Not yet. |
| 02:51.45 | Arrowmaster | problem is nothing is completely mine |
| 02:52.27 | Kaelten | yeah let's see if they'll respect my casual request |
| 02:52.30 | Ackis | https://twitter.com/jpasula/status/235569550215761920 |
| 02:52.43 | Arrowmaster | is tentonhammer an official fansite? |
| 02:52.56 | Gnarfoz | there are no official fansites |
| 02:52.59 | Gnarfoz | haven't been for years :p |
| 02:53.03 | Cairenn | yes there are |
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| 02:53.12 | Gnarfoz | without a fansite program? |
| 02:53.20 | kd3 | there's a fansite program |
| 02:53.20 | Cairenn | There's a fansite program |
| 02:53.20 | kd3 | kinda |
| 02:53.27 | alestane | They don't appear to have any of mine at the moment...I'm too obscure. |
| 02:54.10 | Ackis | I broke their site: Notice: Undefined index: format in comment_preview() (line 2057 of /www/content/htdocs/dev.subsites.tentonhammer.com/modules/comment/comment.module). |
| 02:54.16 | Cairenn | I was at the summit this Spring |
| 02:54.39 | Esamynn | ./popcorn |
| 02:54.45 | Ackis | "Your comment has been queued for review by site administrators and will be published after approval." |
| 02:54.47 | pompy | i like the "created" field on their addon pages |
| 02:54.57 | Kaelten | I'm also going off the theory that the license on Ace3 only applies to developers, so I've requested they remove anything containing Ace |
| 02:55.03 | Funkeh` | the best part is their FAW |
| 02:55.06 | Funkeh` | FAQ |
| 02:55.09 | Kaelten | maybe it's a stretch but that should be a fun thing for them to consider |
| 02:55.28 | Kaelten | anyone know who their hosted is? |
| 02:55.38 | Funkeh` | "World of Addons is different from other sites in that we are striving to be something more than just pages and pages of addons with bogus 5-star ratings." |
| 02:55.45 | Ackis | Kaelten: tentonhammer.com |
| 02:55.55 | Kaelten | no physical host |
| 02:56.00 | pompy | you can claim an addon without signing up on the site |
| 02:56.04 | Kaelten | if you send the take down to their datacenter it can put pressure on them |
| 02:56.08 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: how much fun do you think i can have with them since i have a partial copyright claim to about half of wowace at one point |
| 02:56.16 | Funkeh` | curse and wowi don't have star ratings thankfully |
| 02:56.25 | kd3 | dns is tucows, lessee if I can find their host |
| 02:56.33 | Arrowmaster | lol tucows |
| 02:56.36 | pompy | it has two things on that page lol.. |
| 02:56.36 | pompy | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:56.36 | pompy | - I am NOT the current author of this addon. |
| 02:56.44 | pompy | so you can claim it without being a current author!? |
| 02:56.54 | Thunder_Child | convoke.com |
| 02:56.55 | Shadowed | oh good |
| 02:56.57 | Thunder_Child | is the host afaik |
| 02:57.00 | Shadowed | another UI site grabbing peoples addons |
| 02:57.03 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: tucows owns Hover.com, which is the best single registrar I've ever used |
| 02:57.07 | Thunder_Child | as far a i can tell* |
| 02:57.43 | Esamynn | these episodes are always a wonderful /popcorn moment for me since, given the license on my stuff, I can't stop them from hosting it anyways |
| 02:57.50 | Kaelten | hem convoke is canadian it looks like |
| 02:57.51 | alestane | Well, night, folks. I need to be bright-eyed and bushy-tailed in the morning. |
| 02:57.51 | Cairenn | "as well as be eligible for the aforementioned exclusive opportunities." |
| 02:57.55 | Gnarfoz | so the new 'fansite program' is... nonpublic? :D |
| 02:58.01 | Cairenn | what aforementioned exclusive opportunities? |
| 02:58.03 | Kaelten | dmca apply in canada? |
| 02:58.13 | Gnarfoz | last news seem to be http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1503482541#4 |
| 02:58.15 | ZorbaTHut | esamynn, yeah, same situation for me back when I developed addons - my least permissive addons were GPL |
| 02:58.16 | Esamynn | Cairenn: that was my question too |
| 02:58.29 | Gnarfoz | also, why do people have to imitate wowmatrix |
| 02:58.30 | Gnarfoz | :| |
| 02:58.32 | Esamynn | KarlKFI: no |
| 02:58.36 | Esamynn | oops |
| 02:58.36 | Cairenn | Gnarfoz: ? |
| 02:58.38 | Esamynn | sorry KarlKFI |
| 02:58.38 | Ackis | Kaelten: it's an american law, so I don't see how a foreign power can use it, or how it can be applied to a foreign power |
| 02:58.40 | Esamynn | Kaelten: no |
| 02:58.42 | kd3 | considering we keep pushing it on them, I'd assume so |
| 02:58.44 | Shadowed | So has it been figured out where we go to yell at them to get our addons off |
| 02:58.46 | Shadowed | or is it just twitter |
| 02:58.56 | Funkeh` | kd3, getting that ebta diff ready? :P |
| 02:59.02 | Funkeh` | beta* |
| 02:59.09 | kd3 | oh, hell, did it not get emailed out already? |
| 02:59.10 | kd3 | grr |
| 02:59.19 | Arrowmaster | they have a .com address, theyll follow US law eventually |
| 02:59.27 | Gnarfoz | Cairenn: what's unclear? there's no info about a fansite program on Blizzards pages, the old links lead to battle.net/community (which is just a landing page) and the latest blue post about the fansite program being 'revamped' is from 2011 - I'm just curious :D |
| 03:00.15 | Esamynn | Arrowmaster: don't go there, just don't |
| 03:01.04 | Funkeh` | oh patch is in 2 weeks |
| 03:01.07 | Funkeh` | wewt |
| 03:01.20 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: Soon(tm) :D |
| 03:01.40 | Esamynn | Kaelten: Canada may have passed something into law recently for take down notices... not sure... they put everything, including the kitchen sink, in the budget bill |
| 03:02.59 | Arrowmaster | oh oh oh i found BigWigs_MC on their site, i should hold copyright on that! |
| 03:02.59 | kd3 | emails out |
| 03:03.36 | Arrowmaster | yes im even listed as a author on wowace for it |
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| 03:04.06 | Torhal | MentalPower: ping |
| 03:04.21 | Shadowed | well sent them off something on the contact form as well |
| 03:04.24 | Shadowed | let's see if they respond |
| 03:05.22 | MentalPower | Torhal: pong |
| 03:05.59 | Torhal | MentalPower: Hit ya on Skype, but yeah…shady AddOn stuff happening. |
| 03:06.17 | Cairenn | Gnarfoz: I don't know, ask them. But the FSP is alive and well. |
| 03:06.39 | Cairenn | My "?" however, was in reference your comment about Wowmatrix |
| 03:06.58 | Gnarfoz | WorldofAddons -> Wowmatrix 2.0? |
| 03:07.14 | Gnarfoz | well, so far they haven't started modifying addons, yet! :D |
| 03:07.26 | Ackis | I wonder if Cairenn could physically go to their hosts location and start a protest :D |
| 03:07.53 | Esamynn | Ackis: I'm sorry to burst your bubble, Canada is a big place :P |
| 03:08.01 | Shadowed | she can ride a moose then |
| 03:08.12 | Ackis | Esamynn: so is Toronto, but iirc she lives nearish there :P |
| 03:08.19 | Esamynn | ... |
| 03:08.22 | Shadowed | Everyone immitates wowmatrix Gnarfoz because that's what most users want |
| 03:08.24 | Esamynn | facepalms |
| 03:08.29 | Shadowed | and if you provide something user want, you can profit off of it generally |
| 03:08.33 | Ackis | 330 Bay St, Suite 820 Toronto, ON M5H 2S8 |
| 03:08.43 | Cairenn | That's 5 hrs sw of me |
| 03:08.47 | Esamynn | ^ |
| 03:09.06 | Esamynn | Cairenn: though you must admit, for Canada, that does count as "close" ;) |
| 03:09.14 | Cairenn | yup :p |
| 03:09.25 | Ackis | nah Esamynn 3 hours is close, 5 hours is just above close |
| 03:09.40 | kd3 | as long as you're not in new england, 5 hours isn't that long of a drive |
| 03:10.06 | Esamynn | Ackis: well, that kinda depends on where you are :) |
| 03:11.51 | Kaelten | oh, here's the aforementioned benefits: http://worldofaddons.com/claim-contest/aug-2012 |
| 03:12.04 | Shadowed | benefits, chance at winning $80 |
| 03:12.08 | Shadowed | just what I wanted |
| 03:12.21 | Funkeh` | I love marketing |
| 03:12.24 | Funkeh` | "ultrapolling" |
| 03:12.27 | Shadowed | http://www.worldofaddons.com/claim-contest/aug-2012/contest-rules |
| 03:12.27 | xyphoid | well crap i'm going to get claiming |
| 03:12.45 | xyphoid | i always wanted to be a well-known addon author and now's my chance |
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| 03:16.06 | Kraps | ~ping |
| 03:16.06 | purl | ~pong |
| 03:22.16 | Cairenn | do we have a count yet of how many addons they've got on site? |
| 03:22.51 | Esamynn | Ackis: besides, you would say that, you prairie folk are just warped in general... gotta make up for too many straight lines |
| 03:23.37 | Torhal | Cairenn: Not that I've seen, but it looks like they're scraping both WoWI and Curse - things that aren't on one or the other are there (from what I've been told). |
| 03:23.51 | Ackis | Esamynn: that's only in Saskatchewan, in Alberta we have a few curves in our roads, and lots of hills |
| 03:23.56 | Cairenn | okay, 15 addons per page on average, x ... sec |
| 03:24.16 | Cairenn | (counting pages) |
| 03:24.31 | Thunder_Child | about 150 |
| 03:24.50 | Thunder_Child | nvm, goes past that |
| 03:24.55 | Cairenn | a shit load more than that |
| 03:24.56 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 03:25.07 | Cairenn | I'm up to page 30 |
| 03:25.15 | Cairenn | and counting |
| 03:25.21 | Cairenn | their site is slow as shit |
| 03:25.28 | Torhal | Cairenn: 54 pages |
| 03:25.31 | Cairenn | ugh |
| 03:25.34 | Torhal | I cheated and modified the URL |
| 03:25.38 | Thunder_Child | dame |
| 03:25.40 | Thunder_Child | same* |
| 03:25.52 | Thunder_Child | ~819 |
| 03:25.52 | Torhal | So ~810 |
| 03:25.53 | Thunder_Child | 810* |
| 03:25.54 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 03:25.55 | Torhal | Yah |
| 03:26.07 | Torhal | Not as widespread as I'd thought. |
| 03:26.15 | Torhal | But still, insane. |
| 03:26.49 | Arrowmaster | its funny seeing a few big links on their addon list that goto wowace |
| 03:29.05 | Torhal | Yah, the pages links. |
| 03:29.23 | Torhal | Tells me they wrote up their own WikiCreolo parser. |
| 03:29.33 | Torhal | Creole* |
| 03:30.28 | Esamynn | Ackis: yah, but aren't you from that mosquitoes infested swa.... err Edmonton? =D |
| 03:30.49 | Ackis | it's not that bad, I only had 20 on my back the other day (bites) |
| 03:30.58 | Esamynn | lol |
| 03:31.05 | Thunder_Child | >.< |
| 03:31.17 | Esamynn | I rest my case prairie folks are nuts |
| 03:31.38 | Ackis | :D |
| 03:31.45 | Kaelten | hey playerscore is the best add-on! |
| 03:31.47 | Kaelten | shock! |
| 03:31.49 | Kaelten | sighs |
| 03:31.51 | Torhal | ~lart Kaelten |
| 03:31.51 | purl | executes killall -TERM Kaelten |
| 03:32.01 | Kaelten | I prefer a -HUP |
| 03:32.08 | Torhal | Heh |
| 03:32.34 | pompy | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/gearscore/ keeeel |
| 03:32.44 | Torhal | Kaelten: ^ |
| 03:32.46 | Torhal | :D |
| 03:33.04 | Kaelten | heh |
| 03:33.06 | Kaelten | it's tempting |
| 03:33.24 | Kaelten | but then it'd give users a reason to actually go there |
| 03:33.32 | Torhal | Haha |
| 03:33.42 | Ackis | pompy: you and I think alike sometimes |
| 03:33.42 | Arrowmaster | didnt i threaten him a few times |
| 03:33.55 | Cairenn | I love how the very first addon I clicked on on their site has Latest Release, License: All Rights Reserved |
| 03:34.07 | pompy | so after we take them down, we can remove the addon from ours! |
| 03:34.46 | pompy | Ackis: we do!? |
| 03:35.06 | Ackis | scary isn't it? |
| 03:36.17 | Arrowmaster | heh somebody finally took away my powers on curseforge |
| 03:36.55 | Kaelten | did a huge cleanup a few weeks ago |
| 03:37.07 | Kaelten | found a few people who hadn't been active in months or years |
| 03:38.03 | Arrowmaster | yeah i was probably one of those |
| 03:43.36 | *** join/#wowuidev Trela (~Alexia@c-71-207-245-20.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 03:47.43 | Cairenn | Omg, they don't have a moderation queue? |
| 03:47.51 | Torhal | ... |
| 03:47.55 | *** join/#wowuidev MentalPower (~textual@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower) |
| 03:47.55 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v MentalPower] by ChanServ |
| 03:48.00 | Cairenn | Anyone can upload, and as soon as you hit "published", it goes live |
| 03:48.09 | Cairenn | http://www.worldofaddons.com/faq/uploading-new-addons |
| 03:48.13 | Torhal | But…but…they MANUALLY scan for viruses! |
| 03:48.17 | Esamynn | hahaha |
| 03:48.18 | kd3 | time to upload some viruses! |
| 03:49.55 | Esamynn | Cairenn: user input is trustworthy, isn't it? |
| 03:49.55 | Mr_Rabies | upload some ham |
| 03:50.03 | Cairenn | rolls her eyes |
| 03:50.06 | Torhal | http://o7.no/NkcSt3 <-- Figured I'd be civil first. |
| 03:50.22 | Ackis | Esamynn: if it was a Canadian only site sure, but we have to deal with those damn mericans |
| 03:50.34 | Torhal | Ackis: 'Murricans. |
| 03:50.43 | Esamynn | Ackis: if only that were true |
| 03:50.49 | Kaelten | official response: http://www.tentonhammer.com/playerscore/news/spark-welcome |
| 03:52.01 | Arrowmaster | yeah i wasnt very civil was i |
| 03:52.04 | Torhal | hah |
| 03:52.04 | Cairenn | Torhal: very polite |
| 03:52.07 | Esamynn | "or worry about accidentally downloading viruses or keyloggers masquerading as legitimate addons." |
| 03:52.09 | Esamynn | sighs |
| 03:52.49 | Torhal | Esamynn: Ackis is good at writing keyloggers in WoW Lua. I swear! |
| 03:53.26 | Mr_Rabies | someone make an addon that fills your screen with pictures of cats, and name it DeadlyBossMods |
| 03:53.53 | Arrowmaster | Mr_Rabies: how about we just tell Guillotine to upload HighRoller |
| 03:54.02 | Mr_Rabies | what's that :o |
| 03:54.11 | Arrowmaster | search for it on wowi |
| 03:54.17 | Cairenn | lol |
| 03:54.18 | Torhal | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8583-HighRoller.html |
| 03:54.33 | Esamynn | roflmao |
| 03:54.36 | Ackis | no, I'd make an addon that yells out bad words and gold selling info and upload it as DBM so users get burned and blame spark! :D |
| 03:54.42 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 03:54.44 | Esamynn | Mr_Rabies: you should install it and find out |
| 03:54.49 | Esamynn | it's awesome! |
| 03:55.06 | MentalPower | it is quite awesome :) |
| 03:55.10 | Mr_Rabies | what is it really, a rickroll video or something |
| 03:55.18 | Esamynn | got it in one |
| 03:55.20 | Mr_Rabies | i remember this now |
| 03:55.35 | MentalPower | wonders if it still works |
| 03:55.48 | Mr_Rabies | does it play it in wow? |
| 03:55.50 | Cairenn | omfg |
| 03:56.03 | Mr_Rabies | is such a thing even possible? |
| 03:56.09 | Cairenn | I'm reading their responses |
| 03:56.38 | Cairenn | "we went through a very rigerous process in acquiring addons including several email sent to each author" |
| 03:56.59 | MentalPower | sure they did |
| 03:57.17 | Ackis | my bullshit metre just went off the scale |
| 03:57.19 | Cairenn | blatant bs |
| 03:57.27 | Mr_Rabies | "several email" |
| 03:57.34 | Mr_Rabies | as if that's somehow better than one |
| 03:57.52 | Mr_Rabies | they mean the UR INVITED TO THE MASTS OF PANDORA BETA emails, of course |
| 03:57.55 | Cairenn | bullshit that they even sent one |
| 03:58.16 | Arrowmaster | "Do you want to continue forcing your users to obtain it by paying for it (Which you don't see anything for) and from a service they don't like?" |
| 03:58.27 | Arrowmaster | hes blocked from curse rewards points isnt he |
| 03:58.42 | Arrowmaster | or never opted into them |
| 03:58.54 | MentalPower | I find this amusing |
| 03:59.04 | Mr_Rabies | people still suggest wowmatrix in various places online alongside curse and wowi |
| 03:59.06 | Mr_Rabies | i'm just like |
| 03:59.10 | Arrowmaster | yeah its like a presidental election all the dirty lies |
| 04:00.01 | Mr_Rabies | http://i.imgur.com/FO8hD.jpg |
| 04:00.18 | Kaelten | Cairenn: they did send a few authors PMs on CF before we banned them for soliciting |
| 04:00.36 | Cairenn | Yeah, they did on us, too |
| 04:00.41 | Cairenn | but (a) a few |
| 04:00.47 | Cairenn | (b) not emails |
| 04:00.52 | Cairenn | (c) not multiple |
| 04:01.04 | Kaelten | I never got a single request to me directly (shock!) |
| 04:01.11 | Ackis | (d) not to everyone |
| 04:01.19 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 04:01.26 | Cairenn | and on, and on, and on ... |
| 04:01.31 | Kaelten | (e) lack of response != consent |
| 04:02.52 | Ackis | oh this might make you guys laugh, because I was stupid enough to name an addon after my toons name, people know I code addons... someone said to me the other day that all addon authors must be really great players! |
| 04:02.56 | Mr_Rabies | hey man if it's not cool for me to break into your house and steal your dog, let me know |
| 04:03.28 | Kaelten | lol |
| 04:03.34 | Kaelten | has never been in a raid |
| 04:03.49 | Mr_Rabies | ackis: you've indirectly been my savior for the last week or so, just to let you know |
| 04:04.00 | Ackis | Mr_Rabies: s/ackis/torhal/ |
| 04:04.04 | Mr_Rabies | i've been bored out of my mind and decided to start hunting rare recipes |
| 04:04.45 | Mr_Rabies | I don't see anything called torhal's recipe list, okay |
| 04:04.47 | Mr_Rabies | :P |
| 04:04.56 | Mr_Rabies | (you too, torhal) |
| 04:05.20 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: i think thats a hint you need to rename the addon |
| 04:05.50 | Ackis | he can't, it's ARR lulz |
| 04:07.09 | pompy | Mr_Rabies: we were debating naming it TAPRL |
| 04:07.21 | Torhal | Ackis: Sure it is, but how much code isn't mine anymore? :) |
| 04:07.30 | Kaelten | I'm glad I'm going to gencon tomorrow |
| 04:07.34 | Kaelten | lol |
| 04:07.37 | Torhal | Heh |
| 04:07.59 | Ackis | Torhal: the libqtip stuff ;) |
| 04:08.15 | Torhal | Ackis: Erm... |
| 04:08.21 | Torhal | ~whalenuke Ackis |
| 04:08.21 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Ackis with his mind powers. |
| 04:08.28 | Mr_Rabies | name it TAPIR so everyone gets it mixed up with one of ckknight's creations |
| 04:08.33 | Ackis | remember how I got you suckered in? :D |
| 04:08.49 | Torhal | Ackis: Yes, and then I just never stopped. |
| 04:09.38 | Ackis | you keep rewriting the damn thing faster than I can learn it |
| 04:11.06 | Torhal | Hey, I slowed down. Not my fault your Facebook games are more appealing! |
| 04:11.45 | Ackis | but it's simcity social |
| 04:12.27 | Cairenn | my post is up |
| 04:12.36 | Cairenn | if anyone wants to read it |
| 04:12.48 | Arrowmaster | where |
| 04:13.06 | Cairenn | http://www.tentonhammer.com/playerscore/news/spark-welcome |
| 04:14.36 | Cairenn | *pissed off* |
| 04:14.47 | ccox | Well, at least this time the beta downloader is using my full 3.6 MB/s connection |
| 04:15.42 | Mr_Rabies | man i'm glad i've never been on cairenn's bad side |
| 04:15.55 | Kaelten | yeah this guy is amazing |
| 04:16.12 | Cairenn | you don't fuck with the intellectual property rights of my authors |
| 04:16.13 | Mr_Rabies | i would not wanna be the guys behind that monumentally stupid decision right now |
| 04:16.18 | Cairenn | cause you ain't seen me mad until you do |
| 04:16.28 | ajmitch | "think of the poor starving users" |
| 04:16.29 | Torhal | …are they deleting comments now? |
| 04:16.42 | Arrowmaster | im still not seeing Cairenn's response |
| 04:16.50 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: It was there, now it isn't |
| 04:16.59 | Cairenn | You have illegally uploaded work not your own, that is copyright protected and without even the knowledge of the owners, let alone permission. You are illegally redistributing these same works without knowledge of the owners, let alone permission. You illegally scraped our site in order to obtain some of these addons which you are now illegally hosting and illegally redistributing. You have posted libelous statements about our site. You have b |
| 04:17.00 | Cairenn | Co-founder and Administrator |
| 04:17.00 | Cairenn | WoWInterface |
| 04:17.01 | Arrowmaster | my reply just went up instantly |
| 04:17.07 | kd3 | it got deleted |
| 04:17.08 | kd3 | I saw it |
| 04:18.26 | Torhal | I think Cairenn hit too close to home for their liking. |
| 04:18.39 | Arrowmaster | goes to google I.C.E. contact info, they can pull the domain |
| 04:19.00 | ccox | Cairenn |
| 04:19.05 | ccox | s |
| 04:19.05 | ccox | post is there, I just read it |
| 04:19.06 | Cairenn | ? |
| 04:19.17 | Mr_Rabies | i've defended playerscore in the past, but i think those days are over |
| 04:19.20 | ajmitch | read it as well, but it's not showing now |
| 04:19.22 | Cairenn | it's gone now |
| 04:19.32 | Kaelten | ccox: was there, now it's not |
| 04:20.13 | Mr_Rabies | Hrm |
| 04:20.39 | Mr_Rabies | someone should post on /r/wow if they haven't, that gets a huge amount of traffic |
| 04:20.40 | p3lim | They only took one of my addons, which also happens to be the only one I have an MIT license on |
| 04:20.49 | p3lim | Which leaves me no right to try and take it down |
| 04:21.14 | Torhal | :/ |
| 04:22.09 | p3lim | alladdon.com however, just scraped my whole (active) addon list |
| 04:22.10 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.reddit.com/r/wow/submit |
| 04:22.17 | MentalPower | I added my 2c |
| 04:22.42 | Mr_Rabies | i could do it, but i'm not really well-informed enough to do it properly with the right info |
| 04:23.08 | Arrowmaster | p3lim: that site looks like its trying to copy wowi |
| 04:23.39 | p3lim | Yup |
| 04:23.54 | End_ | it looks like they scrabed off of curse |
| 04:23.58 | End_ | scraped* |
| 04:24.05 | Cairenn | yeah ... they sure are |
| 04:24.09 | Cairenn | (alladdon) |
| 04:24.26 | End_ | I have different text on curse noting that the MoP version is on wowinterface |
| 04:24.44 | End_ | (until 5.0 comes out) |
| 04:24.48 | Cairenn | they scraped WoWI too (apparently) |
| 04:24.53 | End_ | hm, interesting |
| 04:25.22 | p3lim | Yeah they scraped curse atleast, I see the changelogs there that I don't have on wowi |
| 04:25.31 | mikma | lol fun |
| 04:25.48 | p3lim | Nice thing tho is that you can search by author |
| 04:26.05 | pompy | "We'd like to invite you to claim (or list) your addons here with a Claim Your Addons giveaway, It's your key to have a chance at winning a great Razer product each month" .... Razer sponsoring them!? |
| 04:26.37 | End_ | I wonder if they do any checks when you claim (probably not) |
| 04:26.41 | Arrowmaster | contact razer and find out |
| 04:26.46 | Kaelten | pompy: more like they buy razor products to give away |
| 04:27.07 | mikma | fun fun fun. its wednesday wednesday |
| 04:27.35 | Arrowmaster | yeah i just noticed the windows update notification |
| 04:27.41 | Arrowmaster | i miss not using windows |
| 04:27.56 | pompy | http://worldofaddons.com/ could it null any further!? |
| 04:27.59 | ccox | yep, they did delete her comment. screen shots and HTML saving FTW. |
| 04:28.09 | MentalPower | so apparently ccox replied to that post, but I don't see it |
| 04:28.13 | Torhal | "I'm the author of PlayerScore and GearScore. Throughout posting addons, curse has made my life mostly miserable and frustrating. I have also never seen a single cent of "Revenue Sharing" from curse or curse points." |
| 04:28.14 | Cairenn | I just tried posting it again |
| 04:28.15 | MentalPower | I got an email notification about it |
| 04:28.19 | Torhal | Can I LOL all night long? |
| 04:28.40 | mikma | yes |
| 04:29.14 | Ackis | is someone submitting it to r/wow? I want to but I don't want to give the site any traffic |
| 04:29.19 | ajmitch | ah, the gearscore author, that explains so much |
| 04:29.30 | Mr_Rabies | you could do a self. post, ackis |
| 04:29.44 | Mr_Rabies | no karma for you, so people don't think of ulterior motives, and no direct link |
| 04:29.45 | Arrowmaster | I'm the author of PlayerScore and GearScore. Throughout posting addons, curse has made my life mostly miserable and frustrating. |
| 04:29.46 | Arrowmaster | I have also never seen a single cent of "Revenue Sharing" from curse or curse points. |
| 04:29.47 | End_ | you should do a self post so you can explain |
| 04:29.50 | Arrowmaster | I TAKE CREDIT FOR THAT |
| 04:30.22 | mikma | page not found. ultra gaaaaaayyyyyy |
| 04:30.25 | Kaelten | http://o7.no/PkRgRr |
| 04:30.34 | Kaelten | wonder if they're going to delete that one |
| 04:30.47 | Cairenn | rofl! |
| 04:30.58 | End_ | speaking of which |
| 04:31.01 | ajmitch | nice reply to it |
| 04:31.03 | Arrowmaster | I TAKE CREDIT FOR SUSPENDING GEARSCORE ON CURSE MULTIPLE TIMES! |
| 04:31.05 | Kaelten | I could post a screenshot from his user profile |
| 04:31.13 | End_ | Kaelten: can you fix weird repository issues on curse? |
| 04:31.21 | End_ | or curseforge I suppose |
| 04:31.55 | Ackis | Kaelten: you curse troll! |
| 04:32.01 | MentalPower | lol |
| 04:32.06 | MentalPower | nice screenshot Kaelten :P |
| 04:32.38 | ajmitch | arguing about curse rewards is besides the point of blatant copyright violation |
| 04:32.46 | Ackis | MentalPower: he needs to get the screenshot where he's called a Curse Troll |
| 04:32.47 | MentalPower | true |
| 04:32.47 | Torhal | Kaelten: BWAH |
| 04:33.31 | MentalPower | http://o7.no/O9NPHX |
| 04:34.03 | End_ | wow |
| 04:34.20 | p3lim | They are really trying to moderate those comments |
| 04:34.26 | kd3 | looks for more popcorn |
| 04:34.39 | p3lim | asks kd3 to share if he finds some |
| 04:34.58 | Kaelten | oh wow |
| 04:35.06 | Arrowmaster | im so tempted to reply and tell him that i personally suspended his addon on curse multiple times for viloating the rules |
| 04:35.08 | Torhal | Kaelten: Can I be a Curse troll too? Please? |
| 04:35.10 | Ackis | MentalPower: <3 |
| 04:35.10 | Torhal | :D |
| 04:35.40 | Cairenn | Hey, I outright said who I am :p |
| 04:35.41 | p3lim | Kaelten: Go for it! |
| 04:35.45 | Ackis | Mr_Rabies: upvotes please: http://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/y8usy/new_addon_hosting_site_steals_authors_work/ |
| 04:35.51 | Cairenn | mind you, I'm expecting it'll get yanked again |
| 04:35.52 | Torhal | Cairenn: So did Kaelten :) |
| 04:36.26 | p3lim | Ackis: done |
| 04:37.20 | MentalPower | Ackis: done :) |
| 04:38.21 | Ackis | yay sweet karma mmmm |
| 04:38.36 | MentalPower | self reddit does not give karma :P |
| 04:38.43 | Torhal | Ackis: Read the responses. |
| 04:38.52 | End_ | it's true |
| 04:38.59 | End_ | Ackis is a karma whore |
| 04:39.32 | p3lim | I have 7 karma :< |
| 04:39.45 | Ackis | 4 upvotes, 1 downvote! |
| 04:39.46 | End_ | I have 1 karma |
| 04:39.47 | ajmitch | p3lim: that's more than I have :) |
| 04:40.07 | Kaelten | figured I'd go for full disclosure |
| 04:40.08 | Kaelten | http://o7.no/PkTbph |
| 04:40.55 | Ackis | Kaelten: you said "you never signed up for premium" |
| 04:40.58 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: probalby an automatic downvote |
| 04:40.59 | MentalPower | boom: http://o7.no/R1vF0e |
| 04:41.06 | Torhal | Kaelten: You think they're scrambling for the site devs to disable comments yet? |
| 04:41.14 | Kaelten | fixed |
| 04:41.42 | p3lim | Kaelten: http://mop.wowhead.com/spell=109132 |
| 04:42.04 | Kaelten | oh, so I got permission to reveal premium rewards #s |
| 04:42.16 | Torhal | Kaelten: Oh? |
| 04:42.25 | Kaelten | yup just heard back from hubert about it |
| 04:42.37 | Torhal | Oh, warpath mode. |
| 04:42.38 | Torhal | :D |
| 04:42.40 | Kaelten | $700k+ should be interesting for them to argue empowerment |
| 04:42.41 | Ackis | damn that frenchie, he never responds to me lately |
| 04:42.57 | MentalPower | nice! |
| 04:43.15 | Arrowmaster | wow i got a good chunk of that |
| 04:43.26 | kd3 | oh, Cairenn, arxkanite doesn't seem to think you're real |
| 04:43.30 | p3lim | Haha |
| 04:43.33 | p3lim | Saw that one too |
| 04:43.42 | Torhal | OMFG LOL |
| 04:43.48 | Cairenn | O.O |
| 04:43.53 | Cairenn | goes to catch up |
| 04:44.05 | Kaelten | wow Cairenn you're a fake |
| 04:44.27 | p3lim | Invite the guy to this channel and see if he still belives Cairenn is not Cairenn |
| 04:44.28 | MentalPower | ~popcorn |
| 04:44.28 | purl | somebody said popcorn was http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0f2YL_MThI, which is epic. |
| 04:44.37 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 04:44.45 | Esamynn | oh dear |
| 04:44.49 | MentalPower | hmm… not what I expected, but nice |
| 04:44.50 | Esamynn | OOOOOOH DEAR |
| 04:45.12 | Torhal | I seriously wish I could have kept GearScore/PlayerScore banned after Cataclysm launch. |
| 04:45.23 | Esamynn | oh damn, I refreshed the page before I read Cairenn's complete post :( |
| 04:45.30 | Arrowmaster | give me back my powers on curseforge and ill do it again |
| 04:45.42 | Esamynn | ~fishslap Arrowmaster |
| 04:45.43 | purl | ACTION slaps Arrowmaster up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 04:45.49 | Cairenn | I'll see your ~popcorn and raise you a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvDvTnTGjgQ |
| 04:46.15 | Esamynn | rofl |
| 04:46.41 | p3lim | What the.. |
| 04:46.53 | Arrowmaster | is it bad that i can understand him |
| 04:46.59 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 04:47.02 | Cairenn | probably |
| 04:47.34 | Cairenn | also, thanks MentalPower, since your ~popcorn led to me putting up my link, which has calmed me down some |
| 04:47.37 | ajmitch | Cairenn: so do you now offer him a document from your lawyer to prove it was really you? :) |
| 04:47.52 | Ackis | Cairenn/Kaelten: you may want to monitor http://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/y8usy/new_addon_hosting_site_steals_authors_work/ in case it takes off/the tentonhammer guys find it |
| 04:48.01 | Cairenn | nod |
| 04:48.58 | ccox | Muppets youtube channel++ |
| 04:49.43 | pompy | lets spam arxkanite with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZZ7oFKsKzY&feature=relmfu !! |
| 04:50.16 | Ackis | 4 downvotes! commies! |
| 04:50.22 | Shadowed | oh is the addon stuff going nuclear |
| 04:50.23 | Shadowed | good times |
| 04:50.30 | Torhal | Hah |
| 04:50.46 | *** join/#wowuidev Acenth (~Acenth@76.73.166.128) |
| 04:50.50 | Shadowed | wow Arxkanite STILL hasn't signed up for reward points? |
| 04:50.50 | Shadowed | amazing |
| 04:50.55 | Acenth | Joins the party |
| 04:50.56 | Ackis | Shadowed: it's gone nuclear |
| 04:51.12 | mckenziemc | ~whalenuke Ackis |
| 04:51.12 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Ackis with his mind powers. |
| 04:51.29 | ccox | don't spam, don't be childish |
| 04:51.41 | Torhal | Shadowed: I'm actually kinda pissed that Kaelten had to bring that up because now he'll drain points from everyone else. Oh, wait, no he won't - GearScore was actually more popular than PlayerScore. :) |
| 04:52.05 | Kaelten | he doesn't own gearscore anymore |
| 04:52.09 | Kaelten | tentonhammer does |
| 04:52.13 | Shadowed | ^ |
| 04:52.14 | Kaelten | I have no problem blacklisting it |
| 04:52.20 | Torhal | Kaelten: Ahahahahaha |
| 04:52.20 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 04:52.21 | Esamynn | lol |
| 04:52.21 | Shadowed | he sold gearscore a year ago |
| 04:52.28 | End_ | huh |
| 04:52.31 | End_ | interesting |
| 04:52.31 | Shadowed | which is why it's now called playerscore and tentonhammer mentions it everywhere |
| 04:52.59 | Shadowed | I have no idea why they wasted money on it |
| 04:53.17 | End_ | I guess they saw it was popular and then "???" and then profit |
| 04:53.22 | Torhal | It was super popular. You couldn't log into WoW without someone asking what your GS was. |
| 04:53.25 | Shadowed | right |
| 04:53.26 | End_ | except probably not profit and it WAS popular |
| 04:53.32 | Shadowed | but it wasn't a popularity that would last |
| 04:53.38 | Torhal | Aye |
| 04:53.46 | Ackis | I'm off to bed folks, good luck tonight *takes phone and watches his reddit post like a hawk* |
| 04:53.56 | Esamynn | ~poke Ackis |
| 04:53.56 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Ackis, pokes Ackis repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 04:53.57 | Torhal | Then again, this is another shining example of their lack of understanding of the community. |
| 04:54.06 | Shadowed | indeed |
| 04:54.09 | Torhal | Acenth: G'night mang. |
| 04:54.22 | Esamynn | good night Ackis |
| 04:54.29 | Acenth | Night :P |
| 04:54.51 | Torhal | Ackis: I meant you |
| 04:54.57 | Torhal | Acenth: When the hell id you sneak in? :P |
| 04:55.02 | Torhal | s/id/did/ |
| 04:55.19 | pompy | Torhal lay off teh alcohol |
| 04:55.25 | Acenth | I am ninja |
| 04:55.59 | Torhal | pompy: It's the only way I can stop myself from beating you. |
| 04:56.17 | Kaelten | oh crap it's actually 857k |
| 04:56.25 | Shadowed | I wonder how much gearscore would get from reward points |
| 04:56.29 | mikma | with what. your hair? |
| 04:56.29 | mckenziemc | stabs Torhal, again. |
| 04:56.36 | Shadowed | I bet he's lost a ton of money from not having it enabled |
| 04:56.38 | Acenth | I remember it being 700k back in October, that makes more sense, Kaelten |
| 04:57.00 | Kaelten | yeah I hadn't checked the numbers in a while |
| 04:57.05 | Torhal | Shadowed: When he was using LibQTip, I was getting about $2 per day from the library. |
| 04:57.32 | *** join/#wowuidev DragonSlayerInfe (4c68a413@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.104.164.19) |
| 04:58.05 | Shadowed | probably getting around one or two hundred I imagine then |
| 04:58.11 | Shadowed | although I don't know the exact conversion from addon to library |
| 04:58.24 | Kaelten | it's fuzzy, kinda intentionally |
| 04:58.29 | Shadowed | right |
| 04:58.32 | Kaelten | oh gods I'm up late dealing with this bullshit |
| 04:58.43 | mckenziemc | goto sleep Kaelten |
| 04:58.43 | Shadowed | but $2 is about, 25-30 points |
| 04:58.49 | MentalPower | go sleep Kaelten! |
| 04:58.55 | Acenth | Great way to start vacation |
| 04:58.55 | Torhal | Kaelten: I sowwy! |
| 04:59.03 | Kaelten | each point is a nickle |
| 05:00.45 | Kaelten | alright guys I'm going to crash |
| 05:00.51 | Kaelten | hopefully these guys get a clue |
| 05:00.57 | End_ | unlikely |
| 05:01.12 | Torhal | Kaelten: G'night man |
| 05:01.34 | pompy | night Kaelten |
| 05:01.39 | Esamynn | night Kaelten |
| 05:01.44 | Kaelten | I'll check on it a little in the morning but I got to drive today |
| 05:01.51 | Kaelten | er |
| 05:01.52 | Kaelten | tomorrow |
| 05:01.54 | Kaelten | eh, night! |
| 05:05.21 | Cairenn | sweet dreams Kaelten |
| 05:05.56 | Torhal | ccox: Epic re-post, BTW. |
| 05:06.06 | ccox | thanks |
| 05:07.33 | Shadowed | oh I missed the tentonhammer thread |
| 05:07.40 | Shadowed | I wonder if they actually sent an email |
| 05:07.43 | Cairenn | nice, thanks ccox |
| 05:07.48 | Torhal | Shadowed: They did to a few folks. A few. |
| 05:07.53 | Shadowed | yea I'm checking my email |
| 05:07.57 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 05:08.06 | Esamynn | I don't think I got anything |
| 05:08.07 | Shadowed | I don't really read the email so |
| 05:08.27 | Torhal | I got a PM on Curse, which I ignored and had the guys PMs deleted and account banned. |
| 05:08.31 | Torhal | guy's |
| 05:08.35 | Acenth | Kinda silly that they think uploading copyrighted stuff is OK if they dont get a response. |
| 05:09.04 | mckenziemc | they don't |
| 05:09.05 | Acenth | Imagine uploading a game or video, with the logic "Oh well I emailed Viacom, and they didn't respond. So it is OK" |
| 05:09.13 | Torhal | They were ASKING at first. Then I assume they got no or negative responses, and started amending with "We'll assume that no response is consent" |
| 05:09.14 | Cairenn | I understand small sites not knowing about copyright protections and shit |
| 05:09.18 | Cairenn | but a big site like TTH? |
| 05:09.22 | Cairenn | come on now |
| 05:09.31 | Shadowed | oh people actually PM me on curse |
| 05:09.34 | mckenziemc | they know, they're just making excuses |
| 05:09.35 | Shadowed | maybe I should check this more than once a year |
| 05:09.36 | Torhal | Shadowed: Heh |
| 05:09.47 | p3lim | If I claim an addon, am I allowed to delete it then? |
| 05:09.50 | kd3 | jhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupper%27s_self-referential_formula |
| 05:10.01 | kd3 | neat, minus the leading j of course |
| 05:10.03 | kd3 | ponders |
| 05:10.24 | Shadowed | yup, no emails from them |
| 05:10.47 | Arrowmaster | i find it interesting that according to the numbers Kaelten posted, ive gotten about 0.785% of all the curse reward money given out |
| 05:10.51 | p3lim | No email, no PM, nothing |
| 05:11.02 | Arrowmaster | thats bigger than i expected |
| 05:11.42 | Shadowed | huh |
| 05:11.56 | Shadowed | that doesn't seem hugely surprising |
| 05:12.01 | Shadowed | I'm sure the majority of the reward payout is like |
| 05:12.06 | Shadowed | 20 authors |
| 05:12.36 | Arrowmaster | yeah but i get so little of it now yet im still close to a percent of the overall |
| 05:12.54 | Arrowmaster | if it wasnt for Torhal i would be at a whole percent i bet |
| 05:12.59 | p3lim | Btw, if anyone wanna trace curseforge points for TGC loot I'm game btw, can't withdraw that much per year anyways |
| 05:13.01 | Shadowed | were you under 200 a day? |
| 05:13.03 | p3lim | trade* |
| 05:13.11 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Bah, Cartographer was dead and you know it :P |
| 05:13.18 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: im down to 11 a day now |
| 05:13.21 | Shadowed | I think once you hit around 100, you're basically in a very small minority |
| 05:13.30 | Esamynn | Arrowmaster: small fry! :P |
| 05:13.43 | Shadowed | although now I'm curious what percent I've got |
| 05:13.48 | End_ | I only get like 3 or 4 points, but none of my addons are very popular |
| 05:14.12 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: it wasnt just that! i had 2 pages of stuff on the reward points generation page, now its like 6 addons total |
| 05:14.17 | Shadowed | haha yea |
| 05:14.20 | p3lim | 12 :D |
| 05:14.34 | Shadowed | originally I had like 40 addons that I got points from and it just added it up getting 0.2-2 points per addon |
| 05:14.47 | Arrowmaster | same but they added up |
| 05:15.01 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: All I did was kill Cartographer, Fubar, and anything related which was obviously dead (reports of fatal errors for months and years) |
| 05:15.12 | Torhal | And Rock |
| 05:15.16 | Torhal | Almost forgot Rock. |
| 05:15.16 | Arrowmaster | i still get more points for a library that nobody was ever supposed to use than i do for any of my full addons that only i worked on |
| 05:15.29 | Shadowed | libraries are pretty profitable |
| 05:15.51 | Esamynn | Shadowed: I just wish I actually knew how many addons were using my library :/ |
| 05:16.07 | Arrowmaster | check the reverse list |
| 05:16.09 | Shadowed | Esamynn I know on wowace you can look |
| 05:16.20 | Esamynn | what, the reverse relationships? |
| 05:16.24 | Shadowed | yea |
| 05:16.26 | Esamynn | no, they're busted |
| 05:16.28 | Shadowed | although I think that is semi unreliable |
| 05:16.29 | Esamynn | have been for years |
| 05:16.33 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Reverse list has been busted for awhile :/ |
| 05:16.40 | Shadowed | has it ever worked |
| 05:16.44 | Torhal | Shadowed: Yah |
| 05:16.47 | Shadowed | I know it was broken when LHC3 was around and that was 2 years ago |
| 05:16.49 | Torhal | Then it mysteriously didn't |
| 05:16.54 | Shadowed | er, LHC4 |
| 05:16.56 | Torhal | That's about when it died |
| 05:17.11 | Arrowmaster | im getting more points from Broker2FuBar than from Ace2, thats sad |
| 05:17.24 | Shadowed | hows that |
| 05:17.25 | End_ | hah |
| 05:17.28 | Shadowed | Ace2 has been dead for a while |
| 05:17.40 | End_ | so has fubar |
| 05:17.41 | Arrowmaster | you think thats bad |
| 05:17.53 | Shadowed | I'm sure Broker2FuBar is so popular because of all the abandons FuBar plugins |
| 05:18.22 | Arrowmaster | im getting points for a library i wrote for wow 2.4 and was only used in an early version of omen2 before wow 2.4 was released |
| 05:18.32 | Shadowed | I still actually get some points from LHC4 somehow |
| 05:18.34 | Shadowed | like 0.4 a day |
| 05:19.26 | End_ | I'm assuming LibGUIDRegistry? |
| 05:19.27 | Torhal | I'm still getting ~4 per day from LibQTipClick, which I deprecated almost three years ago. Only thing I can think of is Auditor still uses it. |
| 05:19.55 | Shadowed | oh I guess LHC still gets 1.5 |
| 05:19.57 | Shadowed | weird |
| 05:19.58 | Arrowmaster | End_: yes |
| 05:20.02 | End_ | well |
| 05:20.08 | End_ | I just downloaded it because I'm curious |
| 05:20.10 | End_ | so |
| 05:20.10 | End_ | there |
| 05:20.15 | Torhal | Heh |
| 05:20.27 | Arrowmaster | i would link the most hilarious thing i still get points for but torhal would remove it |
| 05:20.58 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: I only removed stuff that ckk had marked as "mature" but was completely broken and amassing obscene amounts of points for no reason. |
| 05:21.16 | Esamynn | Torhal: so when are the reverse relationships gonna be fixed huh? |
| 05:21.23 | Arrowmaster | so you wont touch my 0.1731 points a day addon? |
| 05:21.37 | Torhal | I basically did a "Mature" audit and marked them as "Release" unless they were libs. |
| 05:21.43 | Arrowmaster | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/project-14092 |
| 05:21.47 | Torhal | Esamynn: No idea - I haven't been on CurseForge in four months. |
| 05:22.01 | End_ | what does that addon even do |
| 05:22.12 | Esamynn | eh, I'm just bugging random curse people... kinda feel bad about continually bugging Kaelten about it ;) |
| 05:22.13 | Arrowmaster | i never released that addon, it just found its way onto curse during the merger and people downloaded it |
| 05:22.17 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Yah, you've had that awhile. |
| 05:22.56 | Arrowmaster | back in wow 2.x i tried to recreate a wow 1.x addon from one of the wowace founders |
| 05:23.12 | Arrowmaster | it was double click the mouse to autorun |
| 05:23.18 | End_ | ah |
| 05:23.37 | mckenziemc | 24 monthly downloads? o.O |
| 05:23.43 | Arrowmaster | i know right |
| 05:23.52 | Arrowmaster | 6 people have favorited it! |
| 05:23.58 | Esamynn | lol |
| 05:24.15 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (~Kaydeethr@wowwiki/Kaydeethree) |
| 05:24.55 | Arrowmaster | if i ever got back into wow that would probably be one addon i would update |
| 05:25.02 | Arrowmaster | hell i think it still works |
| 05:26.10 | Arrowmaster | yeah people in 2011 are saying they couldnt play wow with that addon, fucking hilarious |
| 05:26.44 | pompy | without* ? ;) |
| 05:27.12 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 05:27.42 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Apparently the AddOn will "brake" computers. |
| 05:27.43 | Torhal | :D |
| 05:28.37 | pompy | lol |
| 05:28.52 | Esamynn | nice |
| 05:29.03 | Arrowmaster | kinda sad that my other full fledged addon still has less overall downloads that that thing, http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/train-whistle |
| 05:29.32 | Arrowmaster | but i get more points for that one |
| 05:29.47 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 05:29.57 | Esamynn | Arrowmaster: there was a time when I would have downloaded that in a heart beat |
| 05:30.07 | End_ | I used to use that addon |
| 05:30.11 | Esamynn | though I tended to just smash them and not worry about finger pointing |
| 05:30.11 | Torhal | Novelty wore off though |
| 05:30.25 | Arrowmaster | Esamynn: this was back before you could smash them |
| 05:30.29 | End_ | these days people don't seem to use train sets very often anymore |
| 05:30.38 | End_ | I guess because of the smashing |
| 05:31.14 | Arrowmaster | but i doubt very many people carry the smasher anymore! you should revive the train set! |
| 05:31.23 | End_ | NO |
| 05:31.26 | End_ | and |
| 05:31.29 | End_ | I carry a smasher |
| 05:31.31 | End_ | just in case |
| 05:31.36 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 05:31.40 | Esamynn | does as well |
| 05:31.45 | Esamynn | even though I've quit the game |
| 05:31.54 | End_ | Esamynn carries on in IRL |
| 05:31.57 | End_ | that prepared |
| 05:32.13 | Esamynn | End_: walk softly and carry a big stick |
| 05:32.22 | End_ | a big train smasher |
| 05:32.46 | Arrowmaster | i still laugh at the TrainWhistle screenshot |
| 05:32.48 | Acenth | Night all |
| 05:32.56 | Cairenn | night Acenth |
| 05:32.59 | Cairenn | sweet dreams |
| 05:33.00 | Torhal | I think they broke their site. worldofaddons has a bunch of "null" across it with javascript:void(0) |
| 05:33.04 | Torhal | Acenth: NEIN |
| 05:33.08 | Torhal | Acenth: MOAR Mono! |
| 05:33.11 | Torhal | Bah |
| 05:33.19 | mckenziemc | owned |
| 05:33.20 | End_ | it was doing that before |
| 05:33.27 | Torhal | Huh |
| 05:35.02 | pompy | oh hey |
| 05:38.12 | Esamynn | ~punt cogwheel |
| 05:38.12 | purl | ACTION sends cogwheel into a new timezone |
| 05:39.46 | Torhal | Hah, trolling on Ackis' Reddit thread: "Meh, it doesn't really matter. Anyone should be able to host addons." |
| 05:40.07 | mikma | y u so troll |
| 05:40.08 | Cairenn | yeah, just saw that myself |
| 05:43.04 | pompy | http://www.facebook.com/ApSci/posts/10151147169390605 |
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| 05:46.52 | mckenziemc | hey Kaylin |
| 05:48.39 | Kaylin | hi :) |
| 05:49.00 | End_ | ahahaha |
| 05:49.06 | Torhal | End_: ? |
| 05:49.18 | End_ | due to a bug in the curse packager, alladdon is picking up the wrong version of one of my addons |
| 05:49.26 | Torhal | End_: HAWT |
| 05:49.30 | End_ | it's picking up 1.0-nolib |
| 05:49.36 | Torhal | Ahahahaha |
| 05:49.45 | p3lim | :D |
| 05:49.59 | Kaylin | anyone want to explain to me how bidding on things works on ebay? if I bid higher than my current bid does it increase my current bid or only increase it if somebody outbids me? |
| 05:50.19 | p3lim | You can set a maxbid and a minbid |
| 05:50.21 | Torhal | Kaylin: From my understanding, that's a proxy bid which is the latter. |
| 05:50.37 | p3lim | Noone will see your maxbid, but it will automaticly bid if you get outbid, up to that point |
| 05:50.43 | Kaylin | ah okay |
| 05:51.00 | mckenziemc | denounces Torhal, warning the world they are not to be trusted! |
| 05:51.09 | End_ | what are you ghandi |
| 05:51.23 | Torhal | mckenziemc: How the hell, dude? I already destroyed your civilization. |
| 05:51.33 | Torhal | End_: No shit. Ghandi is an ass in Civ5. |
| 05:51.33 | End_ | gandhi whatever spelling is hard I guess? |
| 05:51.43 | End_ | yes he is |
| 05:52.27 | Torhal | Err, yeah. Gandhi. |
| 05:52.38 | End_ | http://www.civfanatics.com/gallery/files/9/1/8/9/7/civ5screen0001original_resolution_original.jpg |
| 05:52.41 | mckenziemc | hey now |
| 05:52.45 | End_ | my favorite screenshot of gandhi |
| 05:52.50 | Torhal | Hahahaha |
| 05:52.56 | mckenziemc | denouncing leaders i've made declarations of friendship with isn't nice :( |
| 05:53.27 | arton | blows the whistle on mckenziemc. |
| 05:53.53 | mckenziemc | o.O at screenshot |
| 05:54.25 | Cairenn | O.O |
| 05:55.29 | p3lim | Off to get some food as it seems the comments section has cooled off a bit |
| 05:58.01 | Kaylin | so, this support link on the netgear website just looks... well, it looks like late night TV http://support.netgear.com/images/gearhead_large122-50164.png |
| 05:58.18 | End_ | we'd love to help, if you know what we mean |
| 05:59.03 | Kaylin | yea, exactly. |
| 06:00.29 | *** part/#wowuidev mckenziemc (~Mark@69.224.70.199) |
| 06:16.16 | AcidWeb | Perfect. |
| 06:16.29 | AcidWeb | Another page that host my work without permission. |
| 06:17.55 | Torhal | AcidWeb: Get some popcorn - http://www.tentonhammer.com/playerscore/news/spark-welcome |
| 06:18.31 | AcidWeb | Yup already found this. |
| 06:18.55 | AcidWeb | But breakfast first :-) |
| 06:22.17 | AcidWeb | Also WoWI is dead |
| 06:22.33 | dolby | working on it :) |
| 06:22.47 | End_ | it said something about maintenance earlier, but oh hi its dolby on the case |
| 06:23.05 | Esamynn | dolby: SAY IT ISN'T SO!!! |
| 06:23.50 | Torhal | dolby: Open the pod bay doors. |
| 06:24.05 | End_ | looks like it is back |
| 06:24.08 | dolby | =D |
| 06:24.27 | dolby | sorry about that |
| 06:24.50 | Esamynn | dolby: why are you practicing your necromancy on wowi? |
| 06:25.02 | dolby | its kinda fun |
| 06:25.06 | End_ | hehe |
| 06:25.19 | Torhal | I personally think he has more fun killing it. |
| 06:25.30 | dolby | >:) |
| 06:25.42 | Torhal | Though I suppose shouting "RISE!" would be somewhat fun. |
| 06:26.54 | AcidWeb | http://aw.cap.im/2012-08-15_0826.png |
| 06:26.55 | AcidWeb | lolz |
| 06:27.09 | Torhal | SOME? |
| 06:27.11 | Torhal | ROFLMAO |
| 06:29.09 | Esamynn | oh just a few |
| 06:29.22 | Torhal | Only ~800 |
| 06:29.31 | Torhal | Personally, I blame pompy. |
| 06:29.34 | AcidWeb | 98% is still "some" ;p |
| 06:30.13 | Esamynn | Torhal: I blame _you_ |
| 06:30.31 | Torhal | Esamynn: Of course you do - I can't fix the reverse relationships thingamajjig. |
| 06:31.15 | Esamynn | ~blame Torhal |
| 06:31.16 | purl | ACTION blames Torhal (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 06:31.39 | Torhal | So you just inadvertently blamed yourself. |
| 06:32.10 | Esamynn | shrugs |
| 06:32.24 | Esamynn | I'm used to you ignorant americans |
| 06:33.00 | Torhal | Hey, wait…did you just pay a compliment? I was expecting s/ignorant/stupid/ :) |
| 06:33.15 | Esamynn | well, you're not ALL stupid |
| 06:33.38 | Esamynn | willfully ignorant... yes |
| 06:35.38 | Torhal | Esamynn: Only where world and local news is concerned. |
| 06:36.06 | Torhal | s/news/sensationalism/ |
| 06:37.00 | Esamynn | sensationalism is the only thing you pay attention to :P |
| 06:37.10 | Torhal | Esamynn: o.O |
| 06:40.10 | Esamynn | I don't hear a denial |
| 06:41.14 | Torhal | Because you're making shit up! :P |
| 06:41.17 | Torhal | lol |
| 06:41.32 | Esamynn | I rest my case :P |
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| 06:41.45 | Torhal | Haha |
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| 06:53.59 | AcidWeb | I must admit. Pissing most of wow addon author community in one move is quite a achivement ;> |
| 06:54.13 | AcidWeb | *achievement |
| 06:54.24 | bluspacecow | you want to give everyone a golden shower ? |
| 06:54.25 | bluspacecow | kinky |
| 06:54.57 | bluspacecow | i feel theres a part of this conversation i've missed.... |
| 06:55.04 | Torhal | bluspacecow: worldofaddons.com |
| 06:55.08 | Torhal | The new WoWMatrix. |
| 06:55.12 | bluspacecow | .... |
| 06:55.17 | bluspacecow | da faq |
| 06:55.22 | Torhal | Indeed. |
| 06:56.09 | bluspacecow | oh great |
| 06:56.16 | Shirik | are you serious |
| 06:56.22 | Torhal | Shirik: Yup |
| 06:56.22 | bluspacecow | it provides a way of importing an addon from another site |
| 06:56.27 | Torhal | Here, get some popcorn: http://www.tentonhammer.com/playerscore/news/spark-welcome |
| 06:56.28 | bluspacecow | without actually being the author |
| 06:56.29 | Shirik | am I going to have to break into their software too? |
| 06:56.32 | bluspacecow | da faq |
| 06:56.33 | Shirik | :P |
| 06:56.37 | Torhal | Shirik: It's fucking Adobe Air. |
| 06:56.44 | Shirik | that's better than hypercard |
| 06:56.48 | bluspacecow | if i cover it with bacon , honey and cheese will you Shirik ? |
| 06:56.48 | Torhal | Heh, true |
| 06:58.12 | bluspacecow | i'll insert a giant Blue MnM in the centre of their software |
| 06:58.20 | bluspacecow | I know you like the blue ones :) |
| 06:59.43 | Shirik | GEN CON |
| 06:59.47 | Shirik | I AM PACKED |
| 07:00.12 | bluspacecow | NO YOU ARE NOT |
| 07:00.19 | bluspacecow | FOR I AM NOT IN YOUR SUITCASE |
| 07:00.29 | Shirik | :( |
| 07:00.32 | Shirik | you can come |
| 07:01.33 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 07:01.46 | bluspacecow | i would if i could get the time off work |
| 07:02.05 | bluspacecow | also anyone actually received these emails these spark idiots said they sent out ? |
| 07:02.23 | Torhal | I got a PM on Curse. |
| 07:02.46 | bluspacecow | just the 1 ? |
| 07:02.50 | Torhal | I ignored it, had the guy's PMs deleted and account banned…they still have my stuff. |
| 07:03.14 | bluspacecow | http://worldofaddons.com/authors |
| 07:03.19 | Torhal | Yah. just one. Many folks didn't receive one at all. |
| 07:03.20 | bluspacecow | da faq |
| 07:03.26 | Torhal | Yup! |
| 07:03.26 | bluspacecow | " Import an addon from another site" |
| 07:03.28 | bluspacecow | wot |
| 07:03.30 | Torhal | YUP! |
| 07:04.03 | Torhal | Meh. Should have been in bed three hours ago. G'night. |
| 07:04.09 | bluspacecow | we need someone who has a ton of cash to bring a lawsuit against this site. |
| 07:04.21 | Torhal | Oh, yeah: http://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/y8usy/new_addon_hosting_site_steals_authors_work/ |
| 07:07.01 | bluspacecow | ty |
| 07:07.46 | Shirik | ._. |
| 07:07.48 | Shirik | bluspacecow wrote the shortest lines, averaging 13.9 characters per line. |
| 07:07.48 | Shirik | bluipodcow was tight-lipped, too, averaging 17.1 characters. |
| 07:08.03 | bluspacecow | lul |
| 07:08.05 | bluspacecow | me |
| 07:08.08 | bluspacecow | tightlipped ? |
| 07:08.20 | mikma | y u so toight |
| 07:08.23 | Shirik | apparently you are the first and second most tightlipped |
| 07:08.33 | bluspacecow | only for you mikma |
| 07:08.48 | mikma | gut |
| 07:09.05 | Shirik | gut? |
| 07:09.21 | mikma | sehr gut |
| 07:11.17 | p3lim | alladdon.com is owned by the same guy that owned hotwow.com |
| 07:11.22 | p3lim | awesome -.- |
| 07:11.44 | bluspacecow | http://www.quiterly.com/11403/right-this-moment?ref=nf |
| 07:11.59 | bluspacecow | http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/551135_3544116568578_411638204_n.jpg |
| 07:16.16 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 07:17.17 | bluspacecow | also |
| 07:17.17 | bluspacecow | http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/400528_396604083726847_654099863_n.jpg |
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| 07:31.03 | Cairenn | awwwww! |
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| 07:48.12 | bluspacecow | *hehehehehhehhe* |
| 07:48.24 | bluspacecow | Arxkanite "And how would you know that if you were not a curse troll?" |
| 07:48.30 | bluspacecow | lololololol |
| 07:48.37 | bluspacecow | COMEDY GOLD! |
| 07:49.26 | bluspacecow | then Kaelten's comeback ? "You never signed up for author rewards, so stating you never got a cent seems to be a bit misleading." |
| 07:52.08 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 07:52.26 | bluspacecow | tried to use the password "fuckthissite" on their site and it wouldn't let me |
| 07:52.28 | DylanLee | Was just reading that lol. Very interesting read and a lame defense. |
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| 07:54.55 | bluspacecow | Hiiiiiiiiiii coggy |
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| 08:19.10 | mikma | cock well |
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| 08:33.08 | p3lim | Cairenn: What's your take on worldofaddons using wowi's bandwidth to keep addons on their site up-to-date? |
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| 08:33.26 | p3lim | I certainly doubth you like that, would be wowmatrix all over again |
| 08:33.33 | Cairenn | yup |
| 08:33.40 | Cairenn | we'd be far less than happy |
| 08:35.35 | p3lim | No matter if the bigger authors will have their addons taken down, they will still purge both wowi and curse constantly for updates |
| 08:36.51 | Cairenn | We'll deal with it if/when it happens |
| 08:37.03 | p3lim | Well, it already has :p |
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| 08:48.19 | p3lim | Did they really trademark "GearScore"? |
| 08:49.38 | Kalroth | why not! |
| 08:50.01 | Kalroth | I'd trademark ButtFisker |
| 08:54.31 | bluspacecow | Buttfisker |
| 08:54.32 | bluspacecow | LOL |
| 08:55.18 | p3lim | Oh wow, they trademarked both GearScore and PlayerScore |
| 08:55.33 | p3lim | Checked with the US patent office |
| 08:55.34 | bluspacecow | wot. |
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| 08:55.37 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 08:56.10 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 08:56.24 | bluspacecow | i have here that you commented in the last 26 minutes ago |
| 08:56.26 | bluspacecow | p3lim |
| 08:56.29 | bluspacecow | but i can't see it |
| 08:56.34 | bluspacecow | did they delete it ? |
| 08:56.41 | p3lim | Where? |
| 08:56.47 | bluspacecow | http://www.tentonhammer.com/playerscore/news/spark-welcome#comment-45125 |
| 08:57.07 | p3lim | I did, I can see it though |
| 08:57.41 | Vladinator | http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/wowuidev.html.gz :3 |
| 08:58.03 | bluspacecow | "bluspacecow15today"its the call of the waikato rugby tea."" |
| 08:58.07 | bluspacecow | *giggle snort* |
| 08:58.46 | ajmitch | heh |
| 09:03.36 | Stanzilla | slaps bluspacecow |
| 09:03.55 | bluspacecow | ooooo |
| 09:04.00 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:04.09 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:04.51 | Vladinator | lol what's this? worldofaddons has copied a ton of addons and hosts from locally, description and screenshot are right out from wowi :P |
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| 09:05.06 | Stanzilla | best thing is |
| 09:05.07 | p3lim | And curse |
| 09:05.15 | Stanzilla | if the addon is named a bit differently than on curse |
| 09:05.20 | Stanzilla | they just added both |
| 09:05.25 | Vladinator | :D |
| 09:05.52 | bluspacecow | they deleted the comment Stanzilla just made |
| 09:06.02 | Stanzilla | really? |
| 09:06.11 | Vladinator | lol |
| 09:06.17 | Vladinator | what comment was it? |
| 09:06.20 | p3lim | What did you say Stanz.. |
| 09:06.23 | p3lim | Did you offend them? |
| 09:06.25 | Stanzilla | that they should delete my addons |
| 09:06.28 | Stanzilla | nothing else |
| 09:06.33 | bluspacecow | i dunno i did a search on stan |
| 09:06.36 | bluspacecow | nothing |
| 09:06.38 | p3lim | I see it |
| 09:06.42 | Stanzilla | not registered bluspacecow |
| 09:06.45 | Stanzilla | it's still there |
| 09:06.47 | p3lim | 4 minutes ago right? |
| 09:06.58 | Stanzilla | http://www.tentonhammer.com/playerscore/news/spark-welcome#comment-45126 |
| 09:07.01 | Stanzilla | still there |
| 09:07.10 | bluspacecow | oh there it is |
| 09:07.12 | bluspacecow | LOL |
| 09:07.24 | bluspacecow | And how would you know that if you were not a curse troll? |
| 09:07.27 | bluspacecow | LOL |
| 09:07.31 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 09:07.36 | Stanzilla | http://worldofaddons.com/search/node < search for classtimre |
| 09:07.41 | Stanzilla | and prepare to lulz |
| 09:07.46 | Stanzilla | *classtimer |
| 09:07.54 | Vladinator | what happens if you attach a licence to an addon you own, does it retroactively apply on older versions of said addon too? |
| 09:08.23 | p3lim | Same thing with my addon Stanzilla |
| 09:08.45 | Stanzilla | :) |
| 09:12.25 | bluspacecow | brb putting out the Worldofaddons |
| 09:12.30 | bluspacecow | woops I mean rubbish |
| 09:12.32 | bluspacecow | my bad |
| 09:12.34 | Cairenn | lol |
| 09:13.11 | AcidWeb | :-) |
| 09:14.34 | Vladinator | does uploaded addons by default fallback to some basic sort of "ask before you host elsewhere"? |
| 09:15.19 | Cairenn | if there is no license granting the specific permissions, every addon is ARR |
| 09:15.45 | Cairenn | which means that no, you can't redistribute |
| 09:15.55 | Vladinator | but does it say that anywhere on wowi? :p |
| 09:16.01 | Cairenn | doesn't need to |
| 09:16.08 | p3lim | If no license is provided, everything is ARR |
| 09:16.13 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 09:16.19 | Vladinator | where does that rule come from? |
| 09:16.36 | p3lim | US patent and trademark office |
| 09:16.57 | Cairenn | Canadian Patent and Trademark, etc etc etc |
| 09:17.02 | Cairenn | DMCA |
| 09:17.04 | Vladinator | problem is if it doesn't say and just applies by itself, I don't think it works like that for, for example me, Norwegian, law doesn't apply to me so my addons are not by default ARR :P |
| 09:17.37 | mikma | YMCA |
| 09:17.53 | p3lim | Vladinator: it's not dependant on you, but wowi |
| 09:17.58 | p3lim | Wowi is under US law |
| 09:18.09 | Vladinator | ok, then I understand. |
| 09:18.22 | p3lim | Cairenn: correct me if I'm wrong |
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| 09:18.40 | mikma | i wonder are any off my addons there |
| 09:18.55 | Vladinator | one thing I learned is never avoid writing stuff down, having it written lets you point a finger on the sign and say "hey, you broke the rule" :p |
| 09:18.56 | p3lim | mikma: You'd have to search for each addon, sadly |
| 09:19.54 | mikma | well. not gonna do that with this phone lol |
| 09:20.41 | Cairenn | just fyi, we do actually have it in writing |
| 09:20.56 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=684&postcount=2 #7 |
| 09:20.57 | mikma | what |
| 09:20.58 | Vladinator | yeah that was I was getting at ^^ |
| 09:21.36 | Vladinator | is there a link to this post from, let's say the footer of the page, or download addon page, e.g.? just think it's nice having it easier accessible ^^ |
| 09:21.51 | Cairenn | "Holy Site Rules of WoWI" |
| 09:22.17 | p3lim | I saw someone link an awesome license from wowace a few days ago, can't recall the name |
| 09:22.20 | mikma | *toss* |
| 09:22.33 | bluspacecow | tosspot |
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| 09:23.04 | Vladinator | was thinking, would be nice to put the link to that post on the footer where it says WoWInterface, near the Terms of Service/Privacy Statement, e.g. links ^^ |
| 09:24.07 | bluspacecow | anyone got any good "so your levelling an enchancement shammy from 80 - 85. here's what to know" guides "? |
| 09:24.49 | Cairenn | I'm curious, though, about you saying that since you are in Norway, none of your Addons are ARR? |
| 09:25.03 | p3lim | No |
| 09:25.58 | bluspacecow | what was the level range for northrend again ? |
| 09:26.13 | p3lim | 68-80 |
| 09:26.16 | bluspacecow | ty |
| 09:26.25 | bluspacecow | i forgets! |
| 09:26.29 | p3lim | And you have to stay until you hit 80 |
| 09:26.40 | p3lim | You don't get to do quests in the Cata zones until you are |
| 09:26.52 | bluspacecow | i is level 81! |
| 09:27.11 | Vladinator | no clue to be honest, that's why it's good having it written down and visible so there are no missunderstandings when others come and wanna host stuff on their sites :p |
| 09:30.53 | Cairenn | Well, pretty much every country abides by the Berne Convention, which means that countries support each others' copyright laws |
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| 09:31.52 | Elkano | "we don't want many, we just want the best" *mines whole curse* |
| 09:34.25 | p3lim | xD |
| 09:36.50 | Fisker | Cairenn except if it's not what 'murica wants |
| 09:39.32 | Vladinator | ugh, strings, ok, how would you write a parser that reads line by line content that looks like this type: CHAT_MESSAGE_CONNECT |
| 09:39.33 | Vladinator | value: 0 |
| 09:39.33 | Vladinator | playerid_1: 5 |
| 09:39.33 | Vladinator | playerid_2: -1 |
| 09:39.33 | Vladinator | hltv_versioninfo eventid:175 |
| 09:39.33 | Vladinator | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:39.33 | Vladinator | hltv_status eventid:166 |
| 09:39.34 | Vladinator | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:39.34 | Vladinator | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:39.35 | Vladinator | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:39.35 | Vladinator | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:39.36 | Vladinator | ops |
| 09:39.38 | Vladinator | http://pastebin.com/7S4gPSdp |
| 09:39.42 | Vladinator | my copy messed up, was gonna link the url lol |
| 09:39.47 | Cairenn | heh |
| 09:42.44 | Vladinator | I have problems starting to write code that handles this kid of data :P |
| 09:56.04 | zenzio | oh man... installing Unreal 1 just to extract the "log message"-sound to use for "new message" notification in Pidgin was absolutely worth it |
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| 10:04.50 | mitch0 | pff |
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| 10:08.01 | Elkano | Vladinator, how about using a parser generator? you'd just have to pfovide the grammar then |
| 10:08.15 | Vladinator | hmm, easy to write for java? |
| 10:08.39 | Cairenn | zenzio: send me the file? wanna hear, may use it myself |
| 10:08.51 | zenzio | Cairenn: moment |
| 10:08.52 | Vladinator | was scetching up something like db {attr, db = {attr, db = { ... } } } :P |
| 10:09.25 | Elkano | with Java, I use JLex and CUP |
| 10:10.26 | Elkano | (but mainly due to the project I'm working on already using them) |
| 10:11.41 | Elkano | try these two: http://jflex.de/ http://www2.cs.tum.edu/projects/cup/ |
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| 10:49.59 | Vladinator | thanks Elkano |
| 10:51.09 | Elkano | there are also some others around but I guess you get the idea |
| 10:59.46 | Maldivia | *smirk* http://heltnormalt.dk/striben/2012/08/15 |
| 11:08.18 | Cairenn | jnwhiteh: thanks |
| 11:09.04 | kagaro | Vladinator try antrl if your using java its pretty easy |
| 11:11.06 | Vladinator | I will look into that too kagaro |
| 11:11.53 | kagaro | the nicest thing about antlr is it has multiple backends you can generate so you an pump out a parser in c/c++/ruby/java/etc.. |
| 11:15.41 | kagaro | gotta write me some dcm a notices today i guess |
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| 11:27.19 | Ackis | http://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/y8usy/new_addon_hosting_site_steals_authors_work/ |
| 11:34.47 | tlund | ooh. |
| 11:34.50 | tlund | Can i sue? :) |
| 11:35.03 | tlund | They are distributing my addons without my consent |
| 11:36.06 | cbreak-work | it's copyright violation |
| 11:36.23 | cbreak-work | are you us american? |
| 11:36.33 | cbreak-work | then you could consider a DMCA Takedown notice |
| 11:36.36 | Humbedooh | what is this stealing site thingy I hear you talk about? :\ |
| 11:36.54 | tlund | hxxp://www.alladdon.com |
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| 11:37.34 | tlund | perhaps I shall start with a cease and desist letter :) |
| 11:37.39 | cbreak-work | .com domain means US registrar for the TLD, which means you can send a takedown notice |
| 11:37.48 | Humbedooh | what the....they stoles my addons :( |
| 11:37.50 | tlund | cbreak-work: what? NO IT DOES NOT. |
| 11:37.52 | cbreak-work | well, first maybe to their hosting provider |
| 11:38.01 | tlund | cbreak-work: anyone in the wrold can be a registrar for .com |
| 11:38.07 | cbreak-work | tlund: so? |
| 11:38.14 | cbreak-work | tlund: there's only one registrar for them |
| 11:38.20 | tlund | cbreak-work: so what? you just claim the opposite. |
| 11:38.26 | cbreak-work | tlund: no |
| 11:38.30 | bluipodcow | Which ones Humbedooh? I do not know yours |
| 11:38.32 | cbreak-work | I said it's US jurisdiction |
| 11:38.32 | tlund | " <cbreak-work> .com domain means US registrar" |
| 11:38.40 | cbreak-work | tlund: yes. And that's true. |
| 11:38.44 | tlund | there is no US juridsdiction over .com |
| 11:38.46 | cbreak-work | all .com are from verisign afaik |
| 11:39.20 | cbreak-work | yep, verisign |
| 11:39.23 | cbreak-work | a US Company |
| 11:39.30 | cbreak-work | so they have to follow US Law |
| 11:40.02 | Humbedooh | bluipodcow, well all of them :| doodlepad, gnomexcel, libxml, libsvg, libsql etc etc |
| 11:40.16 | tlund | verisign is not the registrar for .com - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_name_registrar |
| 11:40.20 | Humbedooh | I really can't remember all the addons I've done :p been out of the game for too long |
| 11:40.32 | bluipodcow | Gnomes need excel now ? |
| 11:40.44 | Humbedooh | it's fancy gnomish spreadsheetin'! |
| 11:40.46 | cbreak-work | tlund: http://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/ |
| 11:41.25 | tlund | cbreak-work: again. that is not what a "registrar" is. |
| 11:42.05 | cbreak-work | think: what would happen if verisign was told "make this site vanish"? |
| 11:42.43 | cbreak-work | http://domainincite.com/6488-verisigns-com-takedown-power-grab-causing-controversy |
| 11:42.53 | tlund | /ignore |
| 11:52.20 | Vladinator | kagaro: you have used antrl before right? |
| 11:52.28 | kagaro | yes |
| 11:52.41 | Vladinator | can it parse huge files, like 100mb+? :P |
| 11:53.26 | kagaro | should be an issue just use the stream parser, and don't make a AST to hold in ram |
| 11:55.35 | Vladinator | can you be a gent and take a look at this log file http://vlacula.no-ip.com/32645472.zip |
| 11:57.04 | Vladinator | data is split up primarily in frames, shown by "====" at the start of the line, and ends when a new frame starts or end of the file. inside you have attributes, you have key value pairs or tables with a key, or packets, each packet is like a frame essentially, just indicated with "----" so a frame can have many packets sometimes. it's a huge mess, I know :P |
| 11:57.35 | Vladinator | tried writing my own parser that read the file, works but so much work... would be epic if I can setup some rules and have a library extract the info and struct it for me :p |
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| 12:34.44 | Elkano | started reading the comments on tth regarding woa... seeing the authors stand united alongside wowi and wa/cf/c just keep producing a happy face :) |
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| 12:42.19 | zenzio | so it appears that there is a folder on my disk with a size of 17 MB... all others seem to be 4096 bytes. Any idea what could cause this? (I could probably just remove and recreate the folder, but I'm curious) |
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| 12:42.25 | zenzio | (linux) |
| 12:44.32 | Elkano | maybe your FS supports some metadata added to folders? |
| 12:45.21 | zenzio | possibly. It occurred to me now that maybe it's something to do with the data it needs to keep about its contents, if that's how things work in linux... there was an excessive amount of files in it |
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| 12:45.34 | zenzio | but I would have thought it would shrink when the files were deleted in that case |
| 12:48.10 | g0urra | so I heard about this site ripping off addons |
| 12:50.37 | g0urra | what happened to the old one? |
| 12:52.54 | bluipodcow | Lol |
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| 13:07.24 | zenzio | snuggles Lopeppeppy |
| 13:07.46 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, zenzio. happy wednesday! |
| 13:08.17 | zenzio | kind of - cleaning up (to the degree possible) some old, horrid code... |
| 13:08.36 | Lopeppeppy | Eeew, ancient monster spaghetti code! |
| 13:08.53 | zenzio | there's something seriously wrong when you have 5 "newemail(...).php" files (and I'm not talking about it being PHP, let's not get into that again today) |
| 13:09.17 | zenzio | before anyone draws the wrong conclusion, I'm cleaning up after a former colleague |
| 13:10.08 | Lopeppeppy | http://free-stainedglasspatterns.com/3flyingspaghettimonster_btn.jpg - your code is alive! |
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| 13:26.53 | mitch0 | zenzio: that's what all php coders say :P |
| 13:26.59 | zenzio | I know |
| 13:28.00 | Lopeppeppy | Hey. I'm going to be taking my very first php class in September. Don't scare me. |
| 13:28.39 | Humbedooh | BOO! |
| 13:28.56 | mitch0 | Lopeppeppy: skip that class |
| 13:29.03 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/Ic54w <- mind blown |
| 13:29.12 | bluipodcow | Should I be posting anything on the wow forums about this world of admins thing ? |
| 13:29.43 | Lopeppeppy | Hmmm. Ask Cairenn when she wakes up? How much publicity do you want to give them? |
| 13:30.03 | Lopeppeppy | Can't skip. Our new servers are php (vs. cold fusion on the old ones) |
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| 13:30.31 | bluipodcow | Awwww Cairenn|afk r sleepies ? |
| 13:30.36 | zenzio | think so |
| 13:30.58 | Lopeppeppy | She's away, at least. I always interpret that as "asleep/napping", no matter what. |
| 13:31.28 | bluipodcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:35.04 | p3lim | Hm, isnt the point of creating a metatable that if I call it multiple times it will give me a stored variable if I pass the same values, instead of constantly generating new? |
| 13:36.16 | g0urra | bluipodcow: world of admins? wut |
| 13:36.53 | bluipodcow | World of addons lol |
| 13:36.55 | mitch0 | p3lim: that's one use for metatables |
| 13:36.59 | Kalroth | you play an admin in a world of admins, you have to navigate the server room and budget cut meetings |
| 13:37.52 | p3lim | mitch0: Well, it's not working :p |
| 13:37.59 | g0urra | there's different classes depending on what kind of admin it is |
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| 13:38.44 | g0urra | wiki admin: grumble about how the wiki he was a former admin of still gets more views even though it's hit |
| 13:38.46 | g0urra | shit* |
| 13:38.59 | Grum | bles back! |
| 13:39.03 | Kalroth | windows server 2008 admin: reboots twice a day, dont know how to fix anything |
| 13:39.13 | mitch0 | p3lim: http://adrinael.net/wrong6 |
| 13:39.25 | Kalroth | exchange admin: reboots thrice a day, whine about not enough memory, dont know how to fix anything |
| 13:39.36 | p3lim | Well, yeah, but I'd like to know exactly _what_ I'm doing wrong :/ |
| 13:40.13 | mitch0 | paste code, hope for help ;) |
| 13:42.02 | p3lim | Nevermind, I found the issue |
| 13:42.21 | p3lim | Forgot to replace the metatable with the result |
| 13:42.26 | p3lim | derp |
| 13:42.47 | Kalroth | you so silly |
| 13:50.27 | zenzio | I spent a few hours this morning debugging a bit of code that refused to send email in some parts, but worked in others |
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| 13:50.42 | zenzio | in the end it turned out our mail server refused to send mail if the from/reply-to was not marked with our domain |
| 13:51.33 | zenzio | now I'm not saying that's necessarily bad, but it would've been nice if it game some kind of indication of what went wrong :) |
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| 13:59.15 | mikma | cairenn|afk: are you the real cairenn? ;) |
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| 14:14.03 | p3lim | I have no idea why, but this code I'm working on actually disables /dump and everything else devtools-related |
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| 14:19.35 | Humbedooh | the dreaded eduroam... ;o |
| 14:21.19 | mckenziemc | Humbedooh |
| 14:21.56 | Humbedooh | mckenziemc |
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| 14:37.17 | AcidWeb | Anybody know if Tol'viron Arena is still MoP part of it was dropped like third new BG? |
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| 14:50.40 | p3lim | The metatable is just trolling me now |
| 14:50.53 | p3lim | arg2 giving me a string called "buttons" randomly :< |
| 14:51.03 | p3lim | instead of the ID I pass through it |
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| 14:55.35 | kagaro | has anyone prepared a new rtf doc for wowaddon DMCA? |
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| 15:01.10 | nicoli_s | ? |
| 15:01.20 | p3lim | Enlighten me: http://pastebin.com/4nJ2Bf7v |
| 15:02.43 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn linked the old one in the discussion thread on WoWInterface... if there's a new one it might be linked there? |
| 15:02.56 | bluspacecow | https://twitter.com/oliviadgrace/status/235713264980480000 |
| 15:03.09 | bluspacecow | if anyone with twitter want's to answer for their addon. |
| 15:03.36 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:04.13 | p3lim | arg2 on line 1 (i) passes the number 1, then it passes the string "buttons" |
| 15:04.15 | p3lim | Why the hell |
| 15:04.24 | nicoli_s | .join #wowace |
| 15:04.26 | nicoli_s | whoops |
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| 15:09.05 | Shadowed | bluspacecow what's their name on IRC? |
| 15:10.12 | p3lim | If anyone with some experience with metatables would mind assisting me |
| 15:10.24 | Shadowed | Also did anyone get a response from worldofaddons yet or is it time to get DMCAy |
| 15:10.54 | p3lim | Nothing yet |
| 15:13.10 | bluspacecow | not sure if they've joined yet Shadowed |
| 15:13.15 | Shadowed | ah welp |
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| 15:13.23 | bluspacecow | re world of addons it might be time to play drop the soap |
| 15:14.46 | mikma | stop being such a pansy about it and listen to some heavenly goa! http://youtu.be/53xDzjg6r08?hd=1 |
| 15:18.41 | Lopeppeppy | Shadow, get with the letters of hatey hate. |
| 15:18.56 | Shadowed | Yea will do it in a bit |
| 15:19.13 | Shadowed | Did anyone ever actually confirm that you can download addons through their client |
| 15:20.02 | Unkle | Wait, install a client from a site I already think of as shady? I don't have time to be setting up a VM and debugging tools just to tell them to go fuck themselves. |
| 15:20.17 | Shadowed | That's pretty much why I'm asking since I don't want to install a client from them |
| 15:28.19 | Unkle | I hate getting spam that spoofs my personal email address as the sender. |
| 15:33.11 | Lopeppeppy | Rawrness. |
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| 15:37.05 | pompy | "While I agree that these tactics are a bit misleading, you guys sure do have your panties up in a bunch. If anything illegal has been done, then let PROPER authorities deal with it. As authors, I would figure your "work" getting to more people is all you would want. Obviously, this is not true." lollll |
| 15:37.18 | bluspacecow | ha ha |
| 15:37.29 | bluspacecow | like some authors care about getting their work out to more people |
| 15:37.33 | bluspacecow | *giggle snort* |
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| 15:38.29 | mikma | http://www.moddb.com/games/wolfram |
| 15:39.03 | Shadowed | pompy where's that from |
| 15:39.17 | Unkle | pompy was that email or posted somewhere? |
| 15:39.28 | nevcairiel | sounds like reddit |
| 15:40.04 | Shadowed | doesn't look like reddit |
| 15:40.06 | pompy | Shadowed: noo |
| 15:40.12 | Shadowed | noo? |
| 15:40.13 | bluspacecow | comments page on the worldofaddons.com intro post |
| 15:40.15 | pompy | http://www.tentonhammer.com/playerscore/news/spark-welcome |
| 15:40.17 | pompy | the comments |
| 15:40.24 | pompy | if only it had permalinks |
| 15:40.47 | pompy | "Nigel" |
| 15:41.08 | bluspacecow | " easier, more intuitive way to get your great addons" |
| 15:41.14 | bluspacecow | how hard is it |
| 15:41.28 | bluspacecow | to go to site. look for addon then click a download link ? |
| 15:41.58 | Lopeppeppy | Intuitive is short hand for "my way is better" |
| 15:42.03 | pompy | arxkanite also said... "Currently, when I release a new version of PlayerScore I have to do A LOT of work to update, and I agree that's a pain. Now I can just update on curse and instantly import my update to WOA." |
| 15:42.06 | pompy | LOL |
| 15:42.08 | pompy | yeah right. |
| 15:42.11 | Lopeppeppy | Oh look, Peppy vs. Bear! http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Bear-at-Skidmore-3789889.php |
| 15:42.13 | quse | Intuitive? That website is terrible |
| 15:42.34 | Acenth | That website is null null null null null |
| 15:42.39 | End_ | so null |
| 15:42.52 | Unkle | Lopeppeppy just don't carry a pik-a-nik basket. |
| 15:42.54 | nevcairiel | the comments on that news post read so funny |
| 15:43.04 | nevcairiel | like all the power of this room channeld into one :p |
| 15:43.39 | quse | whoa whoa whoa wait |
| 15:43.42 | quse | "But, you should think for a moment? Do you want to continue forcing your users to obtain it by paying for it (Which you don't see anything for) and from a service they don't like?" |
| 15:43.53 | Torhal | casts Acenth to NUL. |
| 15:44.00 | quse | who is forcing users to pay for addons? |
| 15:44.11 | Torhal | quse: The Flying Spaghetti Monster. |
| 15:44.16 | nevcairiel | i really dont get what they have against curse, i get boatloads of money from them just for hosting my addons there :P |
| 15:44.17 | Acenth | Torhal: You at your desk? I can never find you. |
| 15:44.28 | Torhal | Acenth: Working from home today. |
| 15:44.31 | Acenth | Doh |
| 15:44.35 | Torhal | lol |
| 15:44.38 | Lopeppeppy | I love FSM. |
| 15:44.44 | Unkle | He's pissed that curse and WoWI have premium tiers? |
| 15:44.56 | Torhal | Unkle: THEY have premium |
| 15:45.07 | nevcairiel | he is pissed that the CC does not have a update-all-my-addons button unless you pay premium |
| 15:45.14 | Torhal | They also have five-star ratings, which is something they bitch about "the other sites" having (which we don't) |
| 15:45.18 | Unkle | Right. So not only is he a theif, he's a slandering, lying asshat too. |
| 15:45.21 | quse | This is the craziest BS I've ever read |
| 15:45.24 | Torhal | lol |
| 15:45.49 | nicoli_s | i did have so much fun reading the thread this morning |
| 15:46.05 | nicoli_s | i searched for curse profiler so i could bitch but no luck :P |
| 15:46.24 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, pic a nik |
| 15:46.29 | Torhal | nicoli_s: Hah |
| 15:46.36 | End_ | I have premium for free via being an author, and I never use the update all addons at once button :< |
| 15:46.52 | Acenth | Updating your addons one by one isn't that time consuming |
| 15:46.56 | quse | Kaelten is dunking so hard on this guy |
| 15:46.57 | End_ | it's really not |
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| 15:47.05 | Acenth | Between 30 to 60 seconds to update all your mods. |
| 15:47.11 | End_ | and I don't want to be surprised on what got updated which is why I don't use that button |
| 15:47.33 | Acenth | Automagic |
| 15:47.47 | Arrowmaster | damn windows rebooted on me in the middle of the night |
| 15:47.56 | End_ | updatitus |
| 15:48.15 | Arrowmaster | wants his desktop back! |
| 15:48.22 | pompy | theres an option for that! |
| 15:50.33 | Fisker | i was about to say that EA had ruined the C&C franchise |
| 15:50.38 | Fisker | but then i realized they already had LOL |
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| 15:54.15 | Silvanas | hello |
| 15:56.20 | End_ | why |
| 15:56.21 | End_ | hello |
| 15:56.24 | End_ | there |
| 15:59.41 | bluspacecow | i never do :) |
| 15:59.45 | bluspacecow | update my addons that is |
| 16:00.17 | bluspacecow | if it's not so broken it's spraying body parts all over my UI I don't usually update it. No offense guys but I'm just that lazy :P |
| 16:00.29 | Lopeppeppy | mmmm, body parts! |
| 16:01.00 | g0urra | Kaelten: how can I know you're not a curse troll? :( |
| 16:01.13 | Dagmar | because he's Kaelten |
| 16:01.31 | Unkle | And like it or not, he's awesome. |
| 16:01.50 | End_ | a curse awesome |
| 16:01.54 | Dagmar | g0urra: If you want "unreasonable" in here, you need to talk to Fisker |
| 16:02.00 | g0urra | (it was a hint toward http://www.tentonhammer.com/playerscore/news/spark-welcome) |
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| 16:02.23 | Ressy | If anyone has a weboftrust account, feel free to add to my entry: http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/worldofaddons.com |
| 16:02.24 | End_ | I think most of us saw that hehe :P |
| 16:03.53 | Unkle | You know, this guy contacted me a couple of years ago to write code for one of his projects. I turned them down. I thought their proposal then was amaturish and sketchy. This just cements the opinion I formed then. |
| 16:04.34 | Dagmar | You guys should probably stick harder to the key points they're evading |
| 16:04.44 | Fisker | why are you mad Dagmar ? |
| 16:04.51 | Dagmar | I don't see them doing anything but actively sidestepping the "scraping entire websites" issue |
| 16:04.51 | Silvanas | woot woot the login server is busy oO? |
| 16:05.03 | End_ | Fisker: madness pills |
| 16:05.06 | Dagmar | The way they've populated their stuff is utterly unethical |
| 16:05.09 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 16:05.52 | Dagmar | ...but beyond the issue of ethics, and to be more precise, WTF were they doing scraping sites for addons wholesale when they had to know the things weren't automatically public domain |
| 16:05.59 | Dagmar | Tha's just fuckin' sleazy |
| 16:06.17 | Lopeppeppy | "you didn't opt out, so you're in" is their policy, it seems, because authors are "too hard to contact" |
| 16:06.24 | Lopeppeppy | From reading the comments. |
| 16:06.30 | Shadowed | They were likely assuming nobody would care or that if they called it something they were doing for the community, people would be ok with it |
| 16:06.35 | Lopeppeppy | Makes me want to go drive a llama down their throats. |
| 16:06.59 | bluspacecow | they've obviously never heard of IRC |
| 16:07.10 | bluspacecow | or private messaging authors. |
| 16:07.15 | Shadowed | At this point, they aren't remotely relevant in terms of the addon community so they are probably desperate to grab that piece of the pie again |
| 16:07.28 | Shadowed | which is what they are trying to use GearScores branding to do |
| 16:07.31 | Shadowed | for some crazy reason |
| 16:08.08 | Yoshimo | http://wow.joystiq.com/2012/08/15/mists-of-pandaria-beta-new-training-dummies-make-testing-raid-d/ , mini patchwerks :D |
| 16:08.38 | Dagmar | DMCA the fucks |
| 16:08.39 | Fisker | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 16:08.59 | Dagmar | ...because seriously, "If you don't opt out, you're in" is *not* how copyrighted material is to be handled |
| 16:09.04 | Lopeppeppy | why hello, Fisker. I missed you. |
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| 16:10.16 | Ressy | "We're in the process of releasing a service update which may impact your ability to log in to Battle.net" |
| 16:10.46 | mikma | boom! blocked |
| 16:10.47 | Arrowmaster | DMCA really is the best idea, especially considering googles recent announcement |
| 16:10.50 | Corrodias | how you will be able to tell the difference, i don't know. |
| 16:11.46 | bluspacecow | https://twitter.com/BlizzardCS/status/235769924977565697 |
| 16:11.47 | Ressy | Arrowmaster, wouldn't you have to do 2 DMCAs then.. 1 to worldofaddons & 1 to google? |
| 16:11.57 | bluspacecow | dang u too fast for mees ressy |
| 16:11.58 | Corrodias | separate DMCA notices to the people you're talking to, and to the site's hosting company, and to google |
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| 16:12.06 | Corrodias | *talking about |
| 16:12.11 | Unkle | They didn't scrape anything that belongs to me, so I have no basis for complaint, but someone should DCMA and C&D them. |
| 16:12.20 | Acenth | I love how Curse and WOWI just own the SEO for "world of addons" |
| 16:12.30 | Unkle | (no basis = no legal leg to stand upon) |
| 16:12.39 | Corrodias | speaking of which, i noticed Curse runs a skyrim wiki |
| 16:12.55 | Arrowmaster | they do? |
| 16:12.58 | Corrodias | and i wonder if this isn't a little redundant with UESP and that wikia-hosted one |
| 16:13.05 | Arrowmaster | wikia one is crap |
| 16:13.09 | End_ | the wikia hosted...yeah |
| 16:13.12 | Acenth | ^ |
| 16:13.12 | End_ | what arrowmaster said |
| 16:13.16 | Arrowmaster | but UESP should be the only one anybody ever needs |
| 16:13.18 | End_ | or really |
| 16:13.19 | pompy | Arrowmaster: http://www.skyrimwiki.com/ |
| 16:13.20 | End_ | wikia is crap |
| 16:13.21 | Corrodias | i've no love for wikia, though i don't know about the quality of the content |
| 16:13.42 | Arrowmaster | UESP has been around longer than curse |
| 16:13.47 | Arrowmaster | and wow |
| 16:13.51 | End_ | yeah |
| 16:13.58 | Corrodias | indeed. i was wondering why this existed. |
| 16:14.13 | Arrowmaster | its the granddaddy of gaming wikis |
| 16:15.21 | nicoli_s | Corrodias:we have alot of wikis |
| 16:15.23 | nicoli_s | like alot |
| 16:15.25 | Acenth | ^ |
| 16:16.11 | Stanzilla | nicoli_s: time to fix your irc client bro |
| 16:16.29 | Corrodias | i guess i can't exactly complain about having a backup, basic source of info if uesp is offline for a while |
| 16:17.27 | Corrodias | time to go to work. |
| 16:18.15 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 16:18.17 | Fisker | fix your mom bro |
| 16:19.05 | pompy | tbh, http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Horn_of_Jurgen_Windcaller_%28Quest%29 is more descriptive than http://www.skyrimwiki.com/The_Horn_of_Jurgen_Windcaller_%28quest%29 |
| 16:19.11 | nicoli_s | Stanzilla:what do you mean, i love me some mirc |
| 16:19.43 | Stanzilla | nicoli_s: because you're always missing a space after the nick name when you mention someone |
| 16:19.51 | nicoli_s | ahh |
| 16:19.54 | Acenth | gets distracted by the GIANT ad |
| 16:20.04 | Fisker | Stanzillak |
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| 16:21.07 | Stanzilla | hey Fisker |
| 16:21.41 | g0urra | pompy: http://www.wowpedia.org/Grand_Empress_Shek%27zeer is more descriptive than http://www.wowwiki.com/Grand_Empress_Shek%27zeer |
| 16:21.43 | g0urra | :> |
| 16:22.25 | pompy | thats understandable .. wowpedia > wowwiki |
| 16:22.31 | g0urra | nods |
| 16:22.45 | Acenth | Agreed |
| 16:23.15 | Silvanas | wowprogramming > wowpedia |
| 16:23.53 | g0urra | airplanes > bikes |
| 16:24.28 | Torhal | flying cars > airplanes |
| 16:24.41 | Kaylin | would you give your foot for the flying car? |
| 16:24.51 | End_ | universe > subset of the universe |
| 16:24.58 | Torhal | Kaylin: I dont hang with German scientists. |
| 16:25.16 | F16Gaming | hm |
| 16:25.20 | Kaylin | :P @ torhal |
| 16:25.23 | F16Gaming | "Usage: BNInviteFriend(presenceID, [tank], [heal], [dps])" |
| 16:25.27 | F16Gaming | what are those 3 last for? |
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| 16:25.44 | Unkle | Torhal|work When a german scientest says "hold on to your hat" you hold on to your hat! Hat! HOLD! |
| 16:26.20 | Torhal | Unkle: Well, I suppose that's better than throwing my hat over the wall. (:P @ Kaylin) |
| 16:26.26 | Humbedooh | rtharper, stop loitering and start...that healthy stuffs |
| 16:26.33 | rtharper | hahah |
| 16:26.34 | Humbedooh | you're fat and such, remember |
| 16:26.38 | rtharper | indeed |
| 16:26.42 | rtharper | really wants to lose 5 kg |
| 16:26.52 | Humbedooh | lost 5kg just recently ;o |
| 16:26.58 | Unkle | if rtharper is fat, I'm a fucking beach ball. |
| 16:27.07 | rtharper | does Unkle know what I look like? |
| 16:27.18 | Humbedooh | rtharper, maybe he thinks you're straight |
| 16:27.26 | Unkle | Yes. You're in jnwhiteh's FB pictures. |
| 16:27.29 | rtharper | ah |
| 16:28.00 | Humbedooh | is -1.3% overweight according to fancy machines : |
| 16:28.08 | rtharper | lol ignore them |
| 16:28.21 | rtharper | is that body fat percentage or BMA? |
| 16:28.22 | rtharper | BMI* |
| 16:28.29 | rtharper | Unkle: ah |
| 16:28.43 | Humbedooh | that's BMI compared to WHO schematics crap |
| 16:28.48 | rtharper | oh |
| 16:28.49 | rtharper | well |
| 16:28.51 | rtharper | my BMI is 26 |
| 16:28.53 | rtharper | so... =p |
| 16:28.56 | Humbedooh | body fat is 7.9% :< |
| 16:29.01 | rtharper | I don't really believe it |
| 16:29.01 | Humbedooh | or some such |
| 16:29.06 | rtharper | YOU HAVE A BODY FAT IF 7.9%? |
| 16:29.13 | rtharper | --------> GTFO |
| 16:29.22 | End_ | that sounds low |
| 16:29.27 | Humbedooh | haha yes, but I also worked to get there :p |
| 16:29.28 | rtharper | that's insanely low |
| 16:29.35 | rtharper | has a 12.5% body fat |
| 16:29.40 | Silvanas | i want the logni server back |
| 16:29.41 | Humbedooh | it's totally on purpose and all that |
| 16:29.42 | rtharper | I'm hoping to get down to 10% |
| 16:29.52 | rtharper | Humbedooh: You must be skiiiiiiny |
| 16:30.07 | rtharper | is now going to go throw up and then go to the gym. |
| 16:30.18 | Torhal | ... |
| 16:30.22 | rtharper | ... |
| 16:30.23 | rtharper | jkjk, people |
| 16:30.28 | Humbedooh | rtharper, body fat has no relation to bmi ;p |
| 16:30.29 | Acenth | INTERVENTION |
| 16:30.35 | rtharper | Humbedooh: I know, heh |
| 16:30.44 | Humbedooh | but I'd agree to 'slim' I suppose |
| 16:30.50 | rtharper | 7.9% is really low =p |
| 16:31.01 | Humbedooh | rtharper, and it was a nightmare getting there :) |
| 16:31.12 | Humbedooh | nothing but fruit and protein crap for an entire month |
| 16:31.16 | rtharper | "Athletic" body bad for men is 6-13% |
| 16:31.20 | rtharper | body fat* |
| 16:31.22 | rtharper | nice |
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| 16:33.03 | jamphat | anyone know an addon that will automatically stock a certain number of an item in my bags? as in, i open my bank, click the addon, and it automatically makes sure i have 20 fish feasts and 20 flasks |
| 16:33.32 | End_ | I used to use one of tekkub's to do that, although it required no clicking and I don't know if it still works |
| 16:33.48 | End_ | or maybe it only worked with the vendor hmm |
| 16:35.13 | jamphat | werd |
| 16:35.24 | jamphat | looking for something that will likely be updated for mop |
| 16:35.39 | End_ | ah it was StealYourCarbon |
| 16:35.42 | End_ | probably would still work |
| 16:35.49 | End_ | but who knows |
| 16:36.03 | End_ | not a lot has changed in that area of the api |
| 16:36.42 | jamphat | guess ill have to try it on the 28th and see if its useful |
| 16:36.48 | jamphat | reading about it now thx |
| 16:37.05 | Humbedooh | rtharper, hey you're a comp sci guy...I had a run-in with thomas boutell today - fun stuff! |
| 16:37.13 | Humbedooh | or well, if you're not that old, maybe it doesn't ring a bell |
| 16:37.20 | End_ | there's also the ptr if you want to make sure it works before then |
| 16:37.26 | rtharper | I actually have no idea who that is =p |
| 16:37.36 | Humbedooh | mkay, do you remember GD? |
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| 16:37.51 | Humbedooh | for making spiffy images in C, Perl etc |
| 16:38.33 | Humbedooh | feels old : |
| 16:38.37 | rtharper | no |
| 16:38.37 | rtharper | heh |
| 16:38.46 | End_ | oh yeah |
| 16:38.50 | rtharper | yay I'm young! |
| 16:38.56 | End_ | I thought that name sounded familiar |
| 16:38.58 | Humbedooh | well back in the 90's, he was a big shot :p |
| 16:39.11 | Humbedooh | also did some takeover of usenet iirc |
| 16:39.14 | pompy | haha they deleted more comments |
| 16:39.28 | pompy | http://www.tentonhammer.com/playerscore/news/spark-welcome lame |
| 16:39.37 | End_ | of course they did |
| 16:43.08 | g0urra | "It's a lot nicer to use for me, the person who enjoys your addons than the Curse Client" |
| 16:43.12 | g0urra | who the heck is this Core guy |
| 16:43.38 | Torhal | Probably someone from Reddit, since bluspacecow decided to link to the WoWI forum post which tells which site is at fault. |
| 16:43.44 | mikma | some person that likes that more than curse :P |
| 16:43.48 | Torhal | (Ackis intentionally left this off) |
| 16:43.58 | pompy | >< |
| 16:44.29 | nicoli_s | lol since when is "i dunno if your addon is updated, just update it to see" more intuitive :P |
| 16:44.42 | Torhal | nicoli_s: Chewbacca defense, man. |
| 16:47.42 | mikma | so where am i supposed to search for my addons with this hustle? |
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| 16:48.38 | Torhal | mikma: worldofaddons.com <-- search box |
| 16:49.14 | g0urra | http://worldofaddons.com/claim-contest/aug-2012 |
| 16:49.15 | g0urra | HAH |
| 16:49.31 | Torhal | g0urra: Claim my AddOns so I can sue them. |
| 16:49.31 | mikma | muahm none of my addons are listed <3 |
| 16:49.31 | Torhal | :D |
| 16:49.45 | g0urra | also wtf is that hand supposed to be grasping |
| 16:49.55 | g0urra | the symbolic hand of addon authors as they crush WoA? |
| 16:49.56 | Torhal | Haha |
| 16:50.01 | Torhal | ROFL |
| 16:50.08 | Sephiroth | rofl |
| 16:51.39 | g0urra | You have subscribed jyumpsy_2012@yahoo.com to the Reloading... list. |
| 16:51.40 | g0urra | what.. |
| 16:51.44 | g0urra | who the heck is this |
| 16:53.45 | Sephiroth | haha. |
| 16:53.46 | Sephiroth | http://www.worldofaddons.com/claim-contest/aug-2012/contest-rules |
| 16:53.53 | Sephiroth | I like how their contest rules is a 404. |
| 16:54.42 | AcidWeb | Sephiroth: Probably author of rules filled DMCA ;p |
| 16:54.53 | Sephiroth | lol |
| 16:57.09 | Silvanas | do the login servers work yet? |
| 16:57.20 | Ressy | should |
| 16:58.40 | Silvanas | yes i cna login agaim |
| 16:58.56 | Torhal | domaintools.com lists them as WorldOfAdDons.com |
| 16:59.04 | Torhal | So fucking funny |
| 17:04.48 | Silvanas | i cant get the wowinterface svn to wor kanymore, i had it all set up and was able todo an SVN update but now it says "the remote actively refused the connection" |
| 17:05.09 | Silvanas | is there any place where i can ask for some support?\ |
| 17:06.26 | pompy | idolby: ^ |
| 17:10.52 | idolby | Sephiroth: sorry about that, should be back up |
| 17:15.40 | Torhal | Silvanas: ^ |
| 17:18.16 | idolby | oh oops thanks Torhal |
| 17:18.21 | idolby | damn tab |
| 17:18.44 | Silvanas | cool it works again thanks |
| 17:18.56 | Silvanas | was the server down ? |
| 17:19.02 | Unkle | Go go idolby, Superman! |
| 17:19.53 | idolby | the daemon was hungup |
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| 17:20.03 | Lopeppeppy | lazy damn server ferrets |
| 17:20.20 | End_ | that's why you get server hamsters |
| 17:20.25 | End_ | ferrets like burrowing too much |
| 17:20.44 | Lopeppeppy | Hamsters are kinksters. |
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| 17:23.31 | Ressy | Interesting. worldofaddons.com servers are in canada |
| 17:23.44 | nicoli_s | yeah thats why they havent been responding to DMCAs |
| 17:23.48 | *** join/#wowuidev Liv (~Olivia@host-92-24-228-19.ppp.as43234.net) |
| 17:24.04 | Ressy | Many hosts here in Canada do respond to DMCAs. |
| 17:24.08 | Torhal | Cairenn: http://www.abload.de/img/bf8cb8b7a10d2c2ad6105kosn9.gif |
| 17:24.25 | Cairenn | Torhal: hehehhe |
| 17:24.28 | End_ | gonna mop the floor with that cat |
| 17:25.41 | Kraps | oh so tentonhammer is joining the addon leeching party? |
| 17:26.03 | Torhal | Yar. |
| 17:26.25 | Cairenn | http://www.cipo.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/cipointernet-internetopic.nsf/eng/h_wr00003.html?OpenDocument |
| 17:27.02 | Cairenn | Canadian intellectual property office |
| 17:28.52 | Liv | Hi, I'm really sorry to interrupt, my name's Olivia, I write the addon column for a site called WoW Insider |
| 17:29.07 | Ressy | Hi Oliva :) |
| 17:29.11 | Cairenn | Hi Liv, |
| 17:29.11 | Liv | Hey! :) |
| 17:29.16 | Acenth | Hello Olivia :) |
| 17:29.21 | AcidWeb | Liv: Welcome :-) |
| 17:29.35 | Liv | thanks and hello! I found my way in eventually xD |
| 17:29.46 | mikma | bluspacecow warned us about you |
| 17:29.53 | Liv | haha! |
| 17:30.15 | Liv | I'm glad to hear it! |
| 17:30.16 | mikma | fetches more garlic and some blingbling silver |
| 17:30.17 | bluspacecow | *hides* |
| 17:31.19 | Liv | *giggles*.... *hides from vampire hunters* |
| 17:32.42 | ccox | Hi Liv - welcome to the deep end! |
| 17:32.50 | Liv | thanks! |
| 17:33.19 | Lopeppeppy | Wow Insider, as in http://wow.joystiq.com/ ? |
| 17:33.31 | Liv | that's the one +Lopeppeppy! |
| 17:33.59 | TC-Work | hardly deep ccox, more lile gutter shallow |
| 17:34.34 | ccox | deep as in: little support, likely to drown |
| 17:34.56 | ccox | if we're measuring intellectual depth, or gene pool depth - then it would need a rather different label |
| 17:35.01 | TC-Work | eh, we are nice and helpful |
| 17:35.04 | TC-Work | and crude |
| 17:35.13 | Liv | all admirable characteristics |
| 17:35.14 | Lopeppeppy | You guys are full of cheer and light, aren't ya? Jeez. |
| 17:35.22 | ccox | :-) |
| 17:35.35 | Cairenn | also, http://www.pch.gc.ca/eng/1274441846170 |
| 17:35.49 | Lopeppeppy | If I didn't love you, I'd sell you to the Russian Circus. They've got a special on lion meat this week. |
| 17:36.02 | Cairenn | We (Canada) are members of the Berne Convention, among others |
| 17:36.52 | bluspacecow | is that where you always have someone called Bernie at your pool party to hold the beers ? |
| 17:36.57 | Cairenn | Basically, we will uphold the intellectual property rights of citizens in other countries |
| 17:37.00 | bluspacecow | hence the plot of Weekend at Bernies ? |
| 17:37.04 | Cairenn | lol |
| 17:37.07 | Unkle | Most of the western world is a signatory to the Berne Convention. |
| 17:37.31 | Unkle | Also, mmm... Russian Circus |
| 17:37.57 | Cairenn | (for those that were wondering what to do about the fact that the site is Canadian) |
| 17:37.59 | Lopeppeppy | You're lizard bait, Unkle, so watch your ankles. |
| 17:38.08 | bluspacecow | even NZ is part of it :P |
| 17:38.36 | Unkle | I'm not lizard bait Lopeppeppy; I'm a lounge lizard. |
| 17:39.01 | Lopeppeppy | Same dif. |
| 17:39.14 | bluspacecow | *supplies cigar to Unkle* |
| 17:39.37 | Liv | Acidweb tweeted me about the worldofaddons website... I might be able to get an article up on WoW Insider saying not to use it if that helps... can't promise anything though, may not get past the editors |
| 17:40.46 | Unkle | "Come on over here boy, have a cigar, you're gonna go far ... " |
| 17:41.31 | bluspacecow | Thank you Liv |
| 17:42.57 | Cairenn | tunes back in for a moment |
| 17:43.11 | Humbedooh | Liv, I don't think you'll even have to say "don't use it". the facts themselves speaks volumes |
| 17:43.31 | bluspacecow | Cairenn's up and not sleeping :) |
| 17:43.34 | Cairenn | The only thing I am concerned about when it comes to things like writing articles, "any press is good press" comes to mind |
| 17:43.44 | Liv | yeah, good point Cairenn |
| 17:43.54 | bluspacecow | Cairenn's one of the head admins of wow interface btw Liv |
| 17:43.57 | Cairenn | If they are named or whatever, it actually drives people to their site |
| 17:44.22 | Liv | yeah, true |
| 17:44.52 | Cairenn | now, if you keep it generic - new ui sites pop up all the time, check on their security and honesty, blah blah ... |
| 17:45.02 | Humbedooh | It might drive away their advertisers |
| 17:45.10 | g0urra | http://mop.wowhead.com/petability=476 |
| 17:45.12 | g0urra | nice ability |
| 17:45.24 | nevcairiel | I dont get why people would use them anyway, their site doesnt even have all that great usability :p |
| 17:45.33 | Cairenn | anyway, just tossing that tidbit in there |
| 17:45.50 | End_ | you're too kind |
| 17:45.54 | Cairenn | goes back to trying to catch up on the 5.5 hrs she missed while sleeping |
| 17:45.56 | End_ | surely you mean their site has awful usability |
| 17:46.04 | Kraps | haha Humbedooh no way, history will show you that "how will i update my 200 addons????" trumps respect for devs |
| 17:46.05 | Liv | yeah indeed, well, I can try to write something up then link it in here, see what you guys think :) I'm not one of those ultra-precious writers |
| 17:46.43 | Humbedooh | Kraps, I'll write a stern letter to the companies that advertise with them :) |
| 17:46.57 | Humbedooh | "Dear Sir and/or Madam, ..." |
| 17:47.06 | wolftankk | http://alladons.com it scrapes curese and WOWI. but the domain registers is a Chinese.. |
| 17:47.44 | Cairenn | there's another one: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43894 |
| 17:48.07 | g0urra | don't you mean www.alladdon.com |
| 17:49.02 | End_ | ouch that one is really bad because they actively bundle viruses |
| 17:51.13 | NickG365 | They're using Drupal to power WorldOfAddons... *facepalm* Bet it took them more time to upload the stolen addons than it took them to launch the actual site. |
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| 17:57.32 | Erodros | Anyone happen to know what the returns are on the event UNIT_SPELL_HASTE and when its called? |
| 17:57.54 | Unkle | check the wiki? |
| 17:59.39 | Erodros | I have, no one has an update on it, and the best post I found is that its called on a change in haste. I am trying to find code on it, if not going to mess with it myself |
| 17:59.42 | AcidWeb | NickG365: This is my favorite part that page: http://aw.cap.im/2012-08-15_1959.png |
| 18:00.34 | Kraps | null |
| 18:01.22 | TC-Work | it'as a null cross |
| 18:01.27 | TC-Work | it's a* |
| 18:03.16 | Lopeppeppy | Less tasty than Southern Comfort Cross or Hot Cross Buns. |
| 18:03.29 | Unkle | nom nom nom |
| 18:03.54 | NickG365 | AcidWeb: Hah, I didn't even see that. Even without it, the site still has a horrible user experience. |
| 18:03.55 | TC-Work | anull cross... |
| 18:05.01 | Arrowmaster | the urls for their addon listing page screems sql inject us |
| 18:06.29 | NickG365 | I bet their admin directory is wide open. Not that it would be appropriate for anyone here to make use of it. |
| 18:07.31 | Gnarfoz | anyone who has an "admin directory" should just shoot themselves now |
| 18:07.54 | NickG365 | Well, it is Drupal. So... /admin by default. |
| 18:08.17 | NickG365 | If they're smart, they'd at the very least IP lock it. |
| 18:08.27 | Arrowmaster | http://redditgifts.com/blog/view/reddit-now-holds-guinness-worlds-record/ |
| 18:09.04 | Arrowmaster | "we now hold the record for the largest online secret santa game! When the totals were sent to Guinness, there were 30,250 participants in 115 countries that counted for the record." |
| 18:09.18 | Ressy | damn |
| 18:09.45 | Unkle | Guiness holds the world record for most world records recorded and published. |
| 18:09.58 | Torhal | cattle-prods Unkle. |
| 18:10.15 | Unkle | SMOKIN! |
| 18:10.31 | mikma | is this the beer? |
| 18:13.17 | cbreak | the beer is not the important part. |
| 18:13.57 | bluspacecow | or the bear |
| 18:14.04 | Unkle | cbreak - shut your mouth, son! It's all about the beer. ALL. |
| 18:14.10 | cbreak | "The book itself holds a world record, as the best-selling copyrighted book series of all time." |
| 18:14.31 | Lopeppeppy | Bear is very important, when it could eat me on the way out to my car. |
| 18:14.54 | Unkle | Lopeppeppy - be sure to slather your toeses in hunny and nuts. |
| 18:15.04 | Lopeppeppy | nom nom |
| 18:15.24 | Lopeppeppy | Co worker brought her daughter to work. I'll walk out after the niblet and be safe. |
| 18:15.25 | Torhal | It's toesies, man. |
| 18:15.49 | Unkle | to-may-to, to-mah-to |
| 18:15.53 | Arrowmaster | seriously what where they expecting? http://i.imgur.com/qhoDv.png http://i.imgur.com/RfWFj.jpg http://i.imgur.com/3Yb0P.jpg |
| 18:18.14 | Arrowmaster | and new android bundle! with spacechem! https://www.humblebundle.com/ |
| 18:18.42 | Lopeppeppy | Smear up the niblet and I'm good. Only have to outrun the slowest in the herd to survive. |
| 18:19.00 | Unkle | Now you're using your noodle. |
| 18:21.34 | Torhal | pokes bluspacecow with a turnip. |
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| 18:25.03 | bluspacecow | da fuq |
| 18:25.03 | bluspacecow | https://twitter.com/YourAnonNews/status/235791587374927872 |
| 18:25.10 | bluspacecow | sony hacked again ? |
| 18:26.20 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 18:26.27 | Ressy | ffs |
| 18:26.41 | Unkle | Once more I'm glad I don't have a station account. |
| 18:26.57 | Torhal | Unkle: Station. |
| 18:26.58 | Ressy | I have one just to keep my bloody netflix account active. |
| 18:27.54 | Unkle | Ressy I have my computer or my AppleTV for that. Of course... right now I don't have a TV so the point is sort of moot. Also, iTues hasn't exactly had a stellar record either. |
| 18:28.01 | Lopeppeppy | I was just about to say a "duh". Bad Peppy. |
| 18:28.50 | Ressy | Unkle: My toddler can't manage the keyboard & mouse yet.. But he can use the ps3 controller to switch to whatever he wants to watch |
| 18:29.01 | Torhal | Lopeppeppy: http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/bitch-i-told-you-i-didnt-steal-any-pic-a-nic-baskets.jpeg |
| 18:29.44 | Unkle | Ressy trining them young! |
| 18:30.14 | Torhal | installs WIndows 8 on Acenth. |
| 18:30.26 | Acenth | is already installing Windows 8 |
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| 18:30.44 | Ressy | Damn right.. Mommy & Daddy are gamers, he will be too. |
| 18:30.47 | Torhal | formats Acenth and installs OS/2 Warp. |
| 18:30.56 | Lopeppeppy | Even a baby bear like that can take off your leg if it tries, Torhal|work. And where's Momma Bear, I'd like to know... |
| 18:31.04 | Torhal | Lopeppeppy: I wondered the same thing. |
| 18:31.06 | Acenth | requires .Net Framework 3.5 or higher to function. |
| 18:31.20 | Lopeppeppy | Do not stand there taking photos of baby bear. Leave. Get in that nice sardine can car and "monitor the situation" |
| 18:31.26 | Arrowmaster | you dont want to know more about the story of that pic, its sad |
| 18:31.27 | Torhal | lol |
| 18:31.38 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: ? |
| 18:32.04 | Arrowmaster | the baby bear pic has a sad ending |
| 18:32.20 | cbreak | in a picnic basket? |
| 18:32.22 | Torhal | Urk |
| 18:32.35 | bluspacecow | https://twitter.com/TenTonHammer/status/235804593727098880 |
| 18:32.37 | bluspacecow | LOL |
| 18:32.43 | bluspacecow | "only a few slipped through the net" |
| 18:33.08 | Torhal | bluspacecow: If you count ~800 as a few. |
| 18:33.38 | prencher | I think mystical is the only one I've seen actually go on their site.. |
| 18:34.01 | Torhal | Go on, as in…voluntarily host? |
| 18:34.09 | Acenth | Seems like it |
| 18:34.17 | Torhal | Dafuw. |
| 18:34.18 | prencher | I saw his name in comments on DBM on there at least |
| 18:34.20 | Torhal | Dafuq even. |
| 18:34.55 | Arrowmaster | the DBM guys have never really been part of the community |
| 18:34.57 | bluspacecow | He's the other Mac MVP |
| 18:35.02 | Arrowmaster | with their fucking gold selling ads on their site |
| 18:35.11 | bluspacecow | there's a reason for that that I'm not sure he wants me sharing |
| 18:35.27 | bluspacecow | for the record he doesn't support this WoA thing and in fact emailed them not to do it |
| 18:35.30 | bluspacecow | many times. |
| 18:36.05 | Torhal | "Don't be shy, feel free to post comments here to report bugs or feature requests, we will be reading these comments. :)" in DBM's comments on the site |
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| 18:36.09 | Torhal | So I'm confused. |
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| 18:38.55 | sylvanaar_work | what is WoA |
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| 18:39.23 | sylvanaar_work | oh i think i can guess |
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| 18:39.47 | Shadowed | Just the usual |
| 18:39.59 | Shadowed | someone thinking they can grab addons from wowi/wowace and upload them on their site without permission |
| 18:40.46 | sylvanaar_work | yeah, i got an email from someone at some point wanting to rehost mine. i didnt give them permission. wonder if that was them |
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| 18:40.56 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. |
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| 18:41.06 | Lopeppeppy | The letter said "If we don't hear from you, we assume you say yes!" |
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| 18:41.11 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar_work: they rehosted them all anyway |
| 18:41.13 | sylvanaar_work | LOL |
| 18:41.22 | Lopeppeppy | Some fine dealings, nu? |
| 18:41.40 | Torhal | sylvanaar_work: Popcorn URL http://www.tentonhammer.com/playerscore/news/spark-welcome |
| 18:42.06 | sylvanaar_work | i found it, yeah |
| 18:42.16 | sylvanaar_work | grumble "If no response is forthcoming by July 21st, we will assume your consent for the use of your addon." |
| 18:42.32 | bluspacecow | i go homes nows |
| 18:42.37 | Torhal | bluspacecow: LIES |
| 18:42.44 | Torhal | bluspacecow: You go to strip club |
| 18:42.46 | Humbedooh | sylvanaar_work, wut? :\ |
| 18:43.07 | Acenth | I love that logic... If I uploaded some movie to my site, and justified it with "Well I emailed MGM and they never responded, so it was OK" |
| 18:43.13 | Torhal | Humbedooh: Yeah, they did that toward the end when they received no or bad responses. |
| 18:43.24 | Humbedooh | everyone who don't respond to this, I will just assume you gave me all your money :\ |
| 18:43.38 | Humbedooh | collects :| |
| 18:43.59 | nicoli_s | lol that last post on there torhal is hilarious |
| 18:44.06 | Torhal | waits for Humbedooh to write an in-game AddOn Updater. |
| 18:44.09 | Acenth | frowns at Windows 8 stuck at 91% |
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| 18:44.49 | Humbedooh | Torhal, ahem, I actually had something like that on the drawing board at a point, but it wouldn't really be cool with blizzard :< |
| 18:44.56 | Torhal | Haha |
| 18:45.15 | Acenth | We considered it for the Curse Client |
| 18:45.16 | sylvanaar_work | That would be neat Torhal. An addon that is completely in its own saved variables |
| 18:45.32 | Acenth | (Not an addon mind you) |
| 18:45.40 | Humbedooh | Torhal, but it's possible |
| 18:45.59 | Unkle_ | Heh. Cogwheel wrote some AddOn for Cataclysm beta that were all stored in your Macro Space. |
| 18:45.59 | Humbedooh | net spliff! |
| 18:46.07 | dolby | mmmm banana split |
| 18:46.22 | Ressy | Unkle: That was the best ever |
| 18:46.24 | nicoli_s | i forgot about when he did that |
| 18:46.38 | Ressy | Then blizz blocked even that. |
| 18:46.48 | TinyCog | whistles innocently |
| 18:47.11 | Unkle_ | It was pretty clever. And funny. And stretched those "how small can I /really/ make this?" muscles. |
| 18:47.12 | Ressy | You're just too good cog |
| 18:47.14 | Arrowmaster | TinyCog: did your gnomish world enlarger backfire again? |
| 18:47.19 | Torhal | nicoli_s: OMFG LOLOLOL |
| 18:51.08 | nicoli_s | i guess we are all just horrible people |
| 18:51.17 | nicoli_s | why didnt we realize that was the reason we are so upset |
| 18:51.32 | Arrowmaster | im missing the joke |
| 18:51.38 | prencher | indeed. |
| 18:51.48 | nicoli_s | read the last reply on the spark article |
| 18:52.03 | Ressy | They're answering questions on twitter now |
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| 18:52.14 | TinyCog | Arrowmaster: an alternative to "cog|work" since i |work at TinyCo now |
| 18:52.27 | nicoli_s | Ressy:link? |
| 18:52.31 | Unkle_ | Because, you know, we hate users. I mean, after all, we didn't write hours and hours of code, do testing, design fetautres, recode, support through API changes and rules changes because we like users in any fucking way whatsoever. |
| 18:52.46 | Ressy | https://twitter.com/TenTonHammer |
| 18:52.46 | prencher | nicoli_s: The latest I see is about a dude uninstalling playerscore |
| 18:53.03 | Ressy | "You guys should grow up. You're throwing a giant hissy fit over something that, in reality, will only help more people. You guys are horrible people. The internet is supposed to be freedom, and you guys are trying to limit it. You should be ashamed." |
| 18:53.12 | Ressy | Thats the latest.. Until Torhal's response. lol |
| 18:53.26 | Arrowmaster | twitter loads slow |
| 18:53.42 | NickG365 | Guess we should all go sit in a corner and think about what we've done. |
| 18:53.50 | prencher | oh now it loads |
| 18:54.08 | prencher | someone doesn't know how to set browser based caching policies |
| 18:54.28 | Torhal | prencher: At this point, I'm thinking their rate of failure cannot be counted. |
| 18:55.07 | Fisker | i don't even have that twat |
| 18:55.30 | Fisker | how can a semi-established site fail so hard? |
| 18:56.21 | Arrowmaster | neither of their twitter accounts are people that can do anything on WoA it seems |
| 18:56.38 | Arrowmaster | bet those people in PR arent happy right now |
| 18:57.05 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: If they HAVE PR. |
| 18:57.26 | Ressy | "The addons and twitter management are two entirely different departments, we can only pass messages on :) " |
| 18:57.52 | prencher | I'm sorry.. twitter management? |
| 18:58.08 | Fisker | I'm VP of twitter management |
| 18:58.26 | mckenziemc | heys Fisker with Torhal |
| 18:58.30 | Unkle_ | I'm betting it is a couple of folks all 'working remotely' and only one or two have any server access. |
| 18:58.53 | Ressy | Probably. |
| 18:58.56 | Cairenn | Wait, what? Where did they post taht, Ressy? |
| 18:59.09 | Cairenn | that* |
| 18:59.22 | Arrowmaster | on twitter |
| 18:59.26 | Cairenn | and did they actually say that, or did some user say it? |
| 18:59.47 | Arrowmaster | https://twitter.com/WorldofAddons/status/235624311128465409 |
| 19:00.01 | Ressy | thx Arrowmaster.. I'd closed that tweet |
| 19:01.32 | Acenth | "Now I can just update on curse and instantly import my update to WOA." - This seems bad |
| 19:01.49 | Unkle_ | Very bad |
| 19:02.27 | Unkle_ | OHAI, you gief access to other accouts or we scrape, ya! |
| 19:03.14 | Primer | I still don't get the point of all these twitter links. What's the bottom line here? |
| 19:03.36 | Fisker | copyright infringement Primer |
| 19:03.54 | Primer | By whom? Of what? |
| 19:03.59 | Primer | Playerscore again? |
| 19:04.13 | Fisker | World of Addons and of basically every addon in existence? :P |
| 19:04.41 | Primer | oh, they're scraping addons from curse again? |
| 19:04.55 | nevcairiel | again? they just started :) |
| 19:04.56 | Primer | Who was it that did that a few years back... |
| 19:04.58 | Sephiroth | http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/worldofaddons.com ... heh guess WoT can be of use sometimes. |
| 19:05.17 | Fisker | idk but apparently copyright is optin and not optout Primer |
| 19:05.26 | Fisker | i'll use that the next time i am sued for copyright infringement |
| 19:05.35 | Fisker | "But you didn't explicitly tell me not to steal!" |
| 19:05.37 | Primer | No, some other place was doing that a few years ago. Any time I heard of people using that program, I'd tell them they were stealing money from me |
| 19:05.46 | Fisker | wowmatrix |
| 19:05.54 | Primer | Yes, wowmatrix. |
| 19:06.01 | Fisker | and wowmatrix was even worse |
| 19:06.04 | nevcairiel | Fisker: to do it right you have to mail them before asking for permission with the opt-out clause in it! |
| 19:06.13 | Primer | That's what lead to download links on curse.com being flash-based. |
| 19:06.18 | Fisker | since they modified addons in unsupported ways to cause massive fucking headaches to those who wanted their stuff removed |
| 19:06.19 | Lopeppeppy | They did mail many people, but it was "opt out" instead. |
| 19:06.43 | nevcairiel | Primer: wowmatrix even leeched off the curse download servers, these guys at least copy the addons :p |
| 19:06.46 | Fisker | ah i know that one! |
| 19:07.00 | Fisker | i got one of those at work once |
| 19:07.16 | Fisker | where it basically said if i didn't respond within a week it would mean i have accepted his terms in his letter |
| 19:07.18 | Fisker | lol'd |
| 19:07.37 | Primer | Their site is full of "null" |
| 19:07.59 | Fisker | quick, implement nullity, then you can divide by it |
| 19:08.24 | nevcairiel | Fisker: i think thats actually a valid thing to do in legal business, give them time to respond and if they don't, you assume in your favor, however it does not translate to copyright like this =p |
| 19:08.41 | NickG365 | If they're as large of a company as they make it seem, how does an idea such as this one even get to this point? That's a scary thought. |
| 19:10.07 | prencher | They're not that big at all, but indeed.. It's baffling that higher ups would condone it |
| 19:10.54 | MentalPower | heh, page two of comments already |
| 19:11.18 | Lopeppeppy | They keep deleting comments, Page 2 was probably a long time ago |
| 19:14.03 | prencher | this just seems like a big old inflated ego from that guy that tenton bought for playerscore |
| 19:14.09 | Torhal | ROFL! They deleted the comment where the guy was saying we're horrible people |
| 19:14.43 | Esamynn | good morning everyone |
| 19:14.50 | Esamynn | do I need a fresh bowl of popcorn? |
| 19:16.06 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: they didnt, its a caching issue, it got booted to the 2nd page becasue of a reply but didnt show at first |
| 19:16.59 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Hah |
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| 19:17.59 | Fisker | well Torhal can't argue with that |
| 19:18.04 | Fisker | copyright holders are bad people |
| 19:18.09 | Torhal | baleets Fisker. |
| 19:18.18 | Dagmar | Everyone should just adopt the BPL |
| 19:18.23 | Lopeppeppy | Totally, Esamynn. With extra butter, this is awesome entertainment. |
| 19:18.30 | Esamynn | oh hey peppy |
| 19:18.58 | Dagmar | http://www.electrohack.com/?page_id=14 <--a licence everyone can understand, too |
| 19:19.24 | Stanzilla | "Can I? Nope." |
| 19:19.42 | Stanzilla | "May I? Nope." |
| 19:19.45 | Cairenn | hahahha |
| 19:19.46 | Cairenn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIo9HyOQq6w&feature=youtu.be |
| 19:20.23 | Esamynn | Cairenn: you dirty relinker you |
| 19:20.33 | Cairenn | 2 |
| 19:21.21 | Fisker | just take a lighter to that post-it |
| 19:24.27 | g0urra | https://boards.4chan.org/b/res/419004909 |
| 19:27.11 | Dagmar | nope. |
| 19:28.41 | Gnarfoz_ | any Jelly Bean users here? did they remove the wifi indicator turning blue when a working data connection has been established over it? (or whatever the reason was it turned blue in ICS, and green before, in GB and Froyo) |
| 19:28.53 | Dagmar | nope |
| 19:28.58 | Dagmar | Still turns blue here |
| 19:29.32 | Dagmar | (Motorola Xoom Wi-Fi) |
| 19:29.36 | Gnarfoz_ | ok, ty |
| 19:29.45 | Gnarfoz_ | wtfs a bit |
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| 19:29.52 | Arrowmaster | blue here, nexus7 |
| 19:30.31 | Gnarfoz | guess I should fiddle with it a bit |
| 19:31.01 | Gnarfoz | I think it's because I enabled two factor auth recently... but I think it worked after that, but before I installed CM10 today |
| 19:31.40 | Gnarfoz | do you know what it's related to? (the color thing) |
| 19:33.56 | Arrowmaster | mines always blue or its just an outline if it isnt connected to wifi |
| 19:34.01 | Dagmar | Means it's on a live connection |
| 19:34.12 | Dagmar | Little arrows appear when data is going over it |
| 19:34.26 | Gnarfoz | live connection? it's grey for me now, but it's transferring data over it anyway |
| 19:34.35 | Dagmar | Very off |
| 19:34.37 | Dagmar | er odd |
| 19:34.37 | Gnarfoz | I always thought it was related to being signed into google services |
| 19:34.46 | Gnarfoz | because I can't get gtalk to work, either |
| 19:35.42 | Dagmar | Hm... That's what I'm reading, but mines just always blue when I'm connected to the internet |
| 19:36.06 | Gnarfoz | well, you could try intentionally logging out of google services |
| 19:36.25 | Dagmar | I don't understand the question |
| 19:36.54 | Gnarfoz | that wasn't a question just now :D |
| 19:36.58 | Arrowmaster | this a phone? try switching to airplane mode and back |
| 19:37.12 | Gnarfoz | yeah, it's a phone |
| 19:37.20 | Dagmar | One does not merely sign out of teh Googlenets |
| 19:37.27 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
| 19:37.29 | Gnarfoz | they're EVERYwhere |
| 19:37.51 | Gnarfoz | http://googleblog.blogspot.de/2010/12/some-cool-android-tips-and-tricks.html yeah |
| 19:37.58 | Gnarfoz | "Notification bar icons (Wi-Fi, network coverage bars, etc.): Turn green when you have an uninhibited connection to Google, white when you don't." |
| 19:38.12 | Lopeppeppy | Uninhibited! Rawr. |
| 19:39.42 | Dagmar | Yeah I supposed that' a little more honest than Windows reporting on "internet" connectivty |
| 19:39.54 | Dagmar | it doesn't really know--it's just seeing if it can talk to some of Microsoft's servers |
| 19:40.31 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: yeah theyve changed the colors though so nothing is green |
| 19:40.33 | Fisker | old Gnarfoz |
| 19:40.43 | Fisker | oh ok Arrowmaster |
| 19:40.54 | Fisker | i'll go back in time and tell them to not suggest it would continue to be green in the future |
| 19:40.59 | Erodros | Humm, Ok is it better ot process COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED to see if a spell is cast with SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS, or use UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED? |
| 19:41.08 | Gnarfoz | Dagmar: http://superuser.com/a/277964 :) |
| 19:41.16 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: of course, old post :) |
| 19:41.35 | Arrowmaster | the reason i suggested switching to airplane mode and back was ive had my phone get stuck when switching between wifi and 3g and neither will work properly and they show grayed out |
| 19:41.56 | Gnarfoz | ah, I see |
| 19:42.01 | Fisker | Microsoft NCSI? |
| 19:42.06 | Fisker | Is that like a cross between CSI and NCIS? |
| 19:42.24 | Gnarfoz | yep. |
| 19:42.44 | Dagmar | Microsoft actually has a lot of nifty, trusting, auto-probing mechanisms in it |
| 19:43.03 | Dagmar | wsus and proxy are the best hostnames everer when you're on a network that uses AD and DDNS |
| 19:58.50 | Arrowmaster | lol wait for it http://imgur.com/wta5d |
| 20:00.27 | Unkle_ | Erodros - The former, not the latter. |
| 20:01.11 | Unkle_ | Arrowmaster that's hilarious. |
| 20:07.26 | mckenziemc | what i hate is when people stop in the way waiting for someone else to start their car and back out, so you can't even get around them to look for another spot |
| 20:13.33 | batrick | mckenziemc: that shouldn't bother you nearly as much as airline boarding and deboarding protocol |
| 20:13.38 | batrick | especially deboarding |
| 20:18.42 | mckenziemc | has never been on an airplane. |
| 20:19.44 | Arrowmaster | what 3rd world country to you live in |
| 20:21.02 | sylvanaar_work | I know people that have never flown. I think it is wierd. |
| 20:21.31 | mckenziemc | Arrowmaster: Butte County |
| 20:23.50 | sylvanaar_work | why does itunes match match all the songs but 1. do they think I pirated just the one song? |
| 20:25.53 | Gnarfoz | because itunes |
| 20:26.30 | Ressy | I've been in an airplane before, but haven't flown. |
| 20:26.55 | Lopeppeppy | Crashing before takeoff is not a good resume skill, Ressy. |
| 20:27.01 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 20:27.07 | Ressy | lol |
| 20:27.14 | mckenziemc | also hey peppy |
| 20:27.18 | mckenziemc | how was pennsic? |
| 20:27.28 | Ressy | My dad worked for Bombardier.. I got tours of in-process planes, and jet |
| 20:27.38 | Lopeppeppy | OMG awesome. And tiring. And wow. And then I hurt my leg packing out, which was less fun. |
| 20:27.47 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 20:27.50 | Lopeppeppy | But it's always relaxing. |
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| 20:31.37 | pompyphone | anything new with the TTH shit? |
| 20:31.53 | Arrowmaster | not really |
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| 20:33.25 | Arrowmaster | there is a new comment on that spark announcement that looks like a TTH shill |
| 20:33.47 | nicoli_s | anyone in here read the walking dead? |
| 20:35.25 | kagaro | lol yeah like i wan a use adobe air for anything .. hahahah |
| 20:36.02 | Arrowmaster | is that what the spark updater uses? i heard the old playerscore updater used it |
| 20:36.23 | pompyphone | the client does |
| 20:36.24 | kagaro | I'm just assuming as much based on comments i wouldn't install or download it to look |
| 20:36.41 | Arrowmaster | if it has any ads in it then i predict disaster |
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| 21:04.29 | Kraps | druids are getting a stag form?! |
| 21:05.23 | End_ | yup |
| 21:05.24 | Unkle_ | Because now they'll ALL be motherfucking "Herne the Hunter" and shit. |
| 21:05.38 | End_ | was a glyph but now I think the glyph just reverses it back to travel form |
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| 21:05.52 | End_ | er old travel form :P |
| 21:06.20 | Mr_Rabies | it's supposed to have been a stag form since vanilla |
| 21:06.26 | Mr_Rabies | however, they never bothered making the model |
| 21:06.57 | Mr_Rabies | instead gave us a generic cheetah model for some reason, despite saying it was temporary, and the icon being a split hoof |
| 21:07.34 | Mr_Rabies | http://wow.zamimg.com/images/wow/icons/large/ability_druid_travelform.jpg |
| 21:07.41 | Mr_Rabies | cheetahs have hooves, right? |
| 21:07.50 | Mr_Rabies | let's just make it a cheetah |
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| 21:08.09 | Torhal | Holy FUCK their PR guy just kicked into overdrive. |
| 21:08.17 | Torhal | And the AddOns are still there. |
| 21:08.57 | g0urra | there are a shit ton of elemental and magic abilities in the pet battle system :| http://www.wowpedia.org/Pet_Battle_System#Abilities |
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| 21:09.25 | Vladinator | Torhal, link:( |
| 21:09.46 | Kraps | what does stag form do |
| 21:10.14 | Mr_Rabies | same as travel form now, execept people in your party can ride you |
| 21:10.15 | Kraps | oh its travel form? |
| 21:10.21 | Kraps | oh haha |
| 21:10.29 | Mr_Rabies | http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/311177.jpg |
| 21:10.33 | Mr_Rabies | it looks totally badass |
| 21:10.38 | Mr_Rabies | that's what it does |
| 21:10.45 | End_ | gonna ride our druids so hard |
| 21:10.54 | Unkle_ | Yeah, and people can ride you? That's going to make for a lot of innuendo. |
| 21:10.56 | Mr_Rabies | just a word of reminder |
| 21:11.01 | Mr_Rabies | i have instant flight form |
| 21:11.03 | Mr_Rabies | you don't :p |
| 21:11.22 | Torhal | Vladinator: http://www.tentonhammer.com/playerscore/news/spark-welcome?page=1 |
| 21:11.22 | Kraps | its for 1 person yeah |
| 21:11.30 | quse | i still don't get it |
| 21:11.35 | quse | where are the hidden fees |
| 21:12.00 | quse | and why would they straight up just host addons instead of start from scratch |
| 21:12.18 | quse | err host addons authors didn't personally upload*** |
| 21:12.57 | g0urra | "You guys are horrible people. The internet is supposed to be freedom, and you guys are trying to limit it. You should be ashamed." |
| 21:13.00 | g0urra | facepalms |
| 21:13.13 | Torhal | g0urra: lulz |
| 21:13.16 | Kraps | was about to post that |
| 21:13.27 | Vladinator | Lol |
| 21:13.36 | Vladinator | That statement is wrong on so many levels :P |
| 21:13.40 | Kraps | freeeedom man |
| 21:14.01 | g0urra | "Authors, please listen to a player. Make installing and using your addons easier. You put countless hours into making something great. Let the world have access to it and use it in the easiest way possible. This method is the easiest I have found." |
| 21:14.04 | g0urra | what is this i dont even |
| 21:14.27 | Vladinator | I miss wowace client :( |
| 21:14.51 | Vladinator | After that everyone tried to make their own and now we got like a bunch of clients and authors have to keep each site updated if they wanna spread their addon :p |
| 21:15.30 | Vladinator | I use wowi and curse but there are other sites and clients that basically parse wowi and curse for info and rehost the files thinking it's fine, shame. -_- |
| 21:16.01 | Kraps | support minion again :p |
| 21:16.14 | Cairenn | =/ |
| 21:16.41 | Vladinator | I never said I don't :P |
| 21:17.36 | Stanzilla | minion was crap from the start :D |
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| 21:18.16 | mckenziemc | inb4kick |
| 21:18.34 | Vladinator | inb4ban |
| 21:18.35 | Kraps | it wasnt :( |
| 21:18.38 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:18.44 | Kraps | it worked fine for mne |
| 21:18.45 | Cairenn | whoops, leading space |
| 21:18.46 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 21:19.00 | TC-Work | ~Cairenn++ |
| 21:19.15 | Gnarfoz | lrn2irc |
| 21:19.15 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 21:19.20 | Stanzilla | TC-Work: meany |
| 21:19.23 | kagaro | well looks like the are starting to remove add ons from wow now |
| 21:19.30 | kagaro | gathermate2_data was removed |
| 21:19.47 | kagaro | i sent a few emails so hopefully they get rid of the rest |
| 21:20.02 | Ackis | people are horrible |
| 21:20.04 | Kraps | Cairenn, mister Arxkanite seems to want to have a dialog with the "real" Cairenn, did you mail him? |
| 21:20.27 | Vladinator | isn't what they did like "if you reply to our mail we remove your addon from our site, but if you don't within X days we add it" kind of saying "you didn't reply so I took it as a yes" :P |
| 21:21.19 | Shadowed | Yea they don't actually listen |
| 21:21.24 | Shadowed | I've contacted them twice and no response yet |
| 21:22.37 | Kraps | addon are actually william wallace screaming FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOM |
| 21:23.32 | Cairenn | lol |
| 21:23.46 | Cairenn | also, Stanzilla, I didn't actually |
| 21:24.05 | Cairenn | I can't properly moderate the channel if I have people on ignore :p |
| 21:24.14 | mckenziemc | ^ |
| 21:24.28 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 21:24.30 | Vladinator | there can't be much to moderate, we are all grown up well behaving people |
| 21:24.34 | TC-Work | Cairenn: yes you can, you look for the eddies of other people complaining |
| 21:24.38 | End_ | hah |
| 21:24.38 | Shadowed | hahah |
| 21:24.38 | Cairenn | Vladinator: hahahha |
| 21:24.48 | Vladinator | on irc :p |
| 21:24.51 | Shadowed | yea that's really not true |
| 21:24.55 | End_ | you're funny guy |
| 21:25.06 | *** join/#wowuidev rtharper (~tomh@unaffiliated/sioraiocht) |
| 21:25.22 | Stanzilla | but I think TC-Work did |
| 21:25.24 | Stanzilla | that mean guy! |
| 21:25.28 | TC-Work | actually, the majority of our interaction here is not that far outside the norm |
| 21:25.43 | TC-Work | ~lart Stanzilla |
| 21:25.43 | purl | cats /dev/urandom into Stanzilla's ear |
| 21:25.48 | Stanzilla | :) |
| 21:27.21 | Unkle_ | Seriously? Grown up? In HERE? Have you been reading the same channel I'm reading? |
| 21:28.04 | nicoli_s | for any dayz players out there: http://www.fpsgeneral.com/news/dayz/21303-dayz-wiki-db-the-next-generation-in-dayz-loot-maps |
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| 21:31.38 | Cairenn | Kraps: He does? Where does he say that? |
| 21:32.47 | Kraps | well he intimated it in an earlier post but then i saw you posted with the 6 different ways to contact you so i guess thats a moot point now :/ |
| 21:33.11 | Cairenn | ah |
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| 21:38.44 | Cairenn | Well, B.de la Durantave's post is amusing |
| 21:42.12 | Torhal | It's so much up-the-ass smoke-blowing it's hilarious. |
| 21:42.34 | Cairenn | yep |
| 21:46.38 | Ackis | Torhal, Cairenn: look at my facebook status update when you get a chance :'( |
| 21:47.04 | Cairenn | Awww :( |
| 21:47.16 | Humbedooh | did something happen to the crabbies?! |
| 21:47.19 | Cairenn | hugs Ackis lots and lots and lots |
| 21:47.30 | Ackis | no, just saw something sad and very upsetting today |
| 21:47.47 | Humbedooh | :\ |
| 21:47.47 | Torhal | Ugh |
| 21:47.54 | Torhal | That's fucked, man. |
| 21:48.32 | Cairenn | oh, I misread at first - doesn't make it any less terrible, but not as horrible for you personally as I first thought |
| 21:48.52 | Ackis | the vet clinic offered to adopt the dog, and offered alternatives that were cheaper |
| 21:49.03 | Ackis | fuck I would've paid |
| 21:49.10 | Ackis | and I have 12 million fucking critters already |
| 21:50.47 | Ackis | sorry needed to get that off my chest |
| 21:50.52 | Humbedooh | gets sad just from guessing what happened to the goggie :( |
| 21:51.22 | nicoli_s | sorry to hear that ackis |
| 21:51.48 | Cairenn | no apology necessary |
| 21:52.14 | Ackis | it wasn't my dog nicoli_s |
| 21:52.23 | nicoli_s | still |
| 21:55.17 | Humbedooh | rtharper, I just refrained from sending a very evil reply to that dessert tweet of yours |
| 21:56.46 | Vladinator | no but seriously we on irc behave well, I have not seen any personal attacks or harsh language use to hurt others, that's what you need for a nice channel :P |
| 21:58.03 | Ackis | Vladinator: you suck |
| 21:58.04 | Ackis | :D |
| 21:58.10 | Vladinator | lol |
| 21:58.14 | Vladinator | it doesn't work like that :P |
| 21:58.52 | Ackis | it gets heated in here sometimes, but Cairenn steps in and bans me usually |
| 21:59.19 | End_ | Ackis is the fire of many suns |
| 21:59.30 | Vladinator | like when I say I wanna use PHP and make a website then someone starts to say things and such? nah it's nothing lol :P |
| 21:59.47 | Humbedooh | php?!! |
| 21:59.53 | Humbedooh | booo! |
| 21:59.53 | nicoli_s | Ackis: i actually have a dog now |
| 21:59.55 | nicoli_s | ms peaces |
| 21:59.58 | nicoli_s | peaches* |
| 22:00.07 | Ackis | stalks nicoli_s facebook |
| 22:00.09 | nicoli_s | and up to 4 kitties |
| 22:00.18 | Humbedooh | nicoli_s, what sort of dog, huh? |
| 22:00.19 | TC-Work | up to? |
| 22:00.21 | nicoli_s | my wife has alot of pictures of her |
| 22:00.23 | Torhal | kagaro: I still see GatherMate_Data on there along with others. |
| 22:00.24 | TC-Work | odd way to phrase that |
| 22:00.27 | Cairenn | my thought exactly, TC-Work |
| 22:00.29 | nicoli_s | shes a jack russel / red healer mix |
| 22:00.32 | End_ | I want to get a kitty but I don't know if I'm going to keep living where I am now or what |
| 22:00.33 | Humbedooh | aaw |
| 22:00.43 | End_ | so maybe after I figure that out :P |
| 22:00.46 | nicoli_s | shes pretty hilarious |
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| 22:03.21 | Humbedooh | writes down "adopt goggie" on his whiteboard |
| 22:18.38 | Ackis | stalksd dolby |
| 22:23.00 | Vladinator | "Cannot display the rule because start state not found" |
| 22:23.07 | Vladinator | How do I define start state in antlr grammar? |
| 22:24.03 | Vladinator | nvm ;d |
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| 22:26.46 | neutronimity | han solo is fucking awesome |
| 22:31.27 | Ackis | look at my latest achievement: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/hyjal/Ackis/advanced |
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| 22:33.12 | Stanzilla | oh finally Ackis |
| 22:33.13 | Stanzilla | good job |
| 22:35.40 | Ackis | my wife is watching something on netflix and I'm dicking around on her with kinect |
| 22:36.04 | Unkle_ | Wash it off when you're done... ewwwww |
| 22:36.22 | Ackis | slaps Unkle_ in the face |
| 22:36.38 | Ackis | wanna guess what I used? :D |
| 22:37.36 | Unkle_ | Ewwwwww |
| 22:39.02 | End_ | a trout? |
| 22:43.31 | Ackis | I just found the corpse of the time lost proto drake lulz |
| 22:43.47 | Unkle_ | Skin it! |
| 22:43.57 | Ackis | not a skinner |
| 22:44.12 | Ackis | I have one already so it doesn't matter, I'd just engage it in combat and let my wife loot it |
| 22:44.19 | Ackis | (that'd get me sex btw) |
| 22:44.29 | Unkle_ | TMI. TMI. |
| 22:49.06 | Kraps | sex tips from Ackis, professional wow player |
| 22:49.30 | Ackis | I think the "married man" is worse than wow player |
| 22:49.37 | Ressy | lol |
| 22:49.48 | TC-Work | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTRRS3IY4Tw >.< |
| 22:49.55 | TC-Work | old though |
| 22:51.56 | Vladinator | antlr seems too complex, stillcant figure it out properly... |
| 22:51.58 | Vladinator | :( |
| 22:59.02 | Ackis | what's Ressy doing in here? |
| 22:59.08 | Ackis | ban her quick! |
| 22:59.13 | Ackis | she's a spy! |
| 22:59.18 | Torhal | Ackis: She's babysitting you. |
| 22:59.34 | Ackis | dude that's why I got married |
| 22:59.57 | Ackis | I'm so glad my wife doesn't use IRC :D |
| 23:00.16 | Ressy | lol |
| 23:00.21 | Ressy | hey hey now |
| 23:00.28 | Ressy | I'm an addon author.. sorta |
| 23:00.38 | Ressy | :P |
| 23:01.07 | Ackis | you are? |
| 23:01.22 | Ackis | I know you know a lot aboot wow and techie stuff, didn't know you wroted addons |
| 23:01.24 | Ressy | way back when I updated Fubar_RecZone |
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| 23:04.56 | Torhal | Ackis: She knows Black Magic Voodoo. |
| 23:05.12 | Unkle_ | Is there really any other kind? |
| 23:05.24 | Torhal | Unkle_: Shh. |
| 23:05.51 | Torhal | Unkle_: PLENTY of people say "hot water heater" when, in fact, it's actually just a "water heater". |
| 23:08.26 | Ressy | I used to use it, and then it didn't get updated for a while & broke, so I started updating it again |
| 23:09.56 | Unkle_ | Torhal You call it an ATM Machine, don't you? |
| 23:10.12 | Torhal | Unkle_: Nope, just ATM. |
| 23:10.33 | Torhal | Unkle_: I actually call people on "hot water heater", and they get mad and try to justify it. |
| 23:11.26 | Unkle_ | Good man. We shall hosit whiskey and apply our superior language skills on passers-by. |
| 23:11.55 | Vladinator | http://pastebin.com/eLjwvxzK - makes me want to hit something! so pheader is a must, it works, if I do pheader? or pheader* then it goes apeshit and the whole thing breaks... |
| 23:12.41 | Jamash | why is wowdb so ugly |
| 23:12.52 | Torhal | Bibi: ^ |
| 23:13.21 | nicoli_s | Jamash:its something we are iterating on |
| 23:13.47 | Jamash | my sister says so it's you can tell you're not looking at wowhead |
| 23:13.54 | Torhal | Hah |
| 23:15.15 | mckenziemc | it's so you can use it to take a break from looking at Torhal, without it being so horrible when the break's over |
| 23:15.41 | Unkle_ | ... ouch? |
| 23:15.47 | Vladinator | I really wanna program this but I can't do it and it makes me want to litteraly cry :( |
| 23:16.30 | Torhal | Unkle_: Nah, not ouch. It's mckenziemc - just moderately better than Fisker. |
| 23:16.49 | mckenziemc | goto die Torhal|jerk |
| 23:17.25 | Torhal | mckenziemc: Sorry, Lua 5.1 lacks goto. |
| 23:17.40 | mckenziemc | tell that to quiescens |
| 23:17.54 | Vladinator | Torhal do you know some java lib to help parse raw text with various format? Like having lua table text and you wish to parse it with java, you need to make it so you can look up the data with java queries -in short convering a specific form of data (as text) into actual usable objects... any ideas? |
| 23:18.12 | nicoli_s | Jamash:i mean that was a part of it |
| 23:18.16 | nicoli_s | we wanted to be different |
| 23:18.36 | nicoli_s | i dont mind it personalkly, its pretty clean and simple we use that design on all of our db sites now |
| 23:18.37 | Torhal | Vladinator: I know nothing of Java :/ |
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| 23:19.16 | Jamash | it's mostly the contrast between the background and the not the background |
| 23:24.34 | quse | wowdb looked cool when it first came out |
| 23:28.00 | Ackis | Torhal: s/of java// |
| 23:28.27 | nebula169 | torhal is actually jon snow! |
| 23:28.34 | Ackis | man I'm kind of a dick sometimes eh? |
| 23:28.51 | Ressy | um, yes? |
| 23:28.52 | Ressy | :P |
| 23:29.06 | Ackis | Ressy: I hear the kitchen calling :P |
| 23:29.17 | Trela | reads WoA legal mess, head explodes. |
| 23:29.32 | Jamash | woa? |
| 23:29.37 | mckenziemc | stabs Ackis with a rusty nail. |
| 23:29.39 | nebula169 | any more developments on that? |
| 23:29.45 | Ressy | Kitchen called earlier while I was telling you earlier I updated an addon. |
| 23:29.47 | mckenziemc | Jamash: /topic |
| 23:29.55 | Ressy | Its why I disappeared for 7 mins.. Making dinner for me & the toddler. :P |
| 23:30.12 | Ackis | :P |
| 23:31.46 | TC-Work | so we have a file that is being executed by people in the facility, we dont want people to be able to execute this file for tracking/loging reasons. http://pastebin.com/ke2ckAME that is at the top of the file. Yet people are still able to run it as root, anyone know how? |
| 23:31.57 | TC-Work | execute this file as root* |
| 23:33.49 | Ackis | Ressy: I told my wife what I said to you and she called me a sexist pig... I hope you're happy with what you started |
| 23:34.25 | Trela | TC-Work: It looks fine, but I am not exactly a wizard with bash scripting. I wonder if it is casing issue or something. |
| 23:34.30 | TC-Work | Ackis: is she correct? |
| 23:34.42 | Ackis | possibly |
| 23:34.44 | Vladinator | I wish someone called me a sexy pig |
| 23:35.04 | mckenziemc | hey Vladinator, you sexy pig |
| 23:35.08 | Ressy | lol |
| 23:35.13 | Vladinator | ~blush mckenziemc |
| 23:35.16 | Ressy | Ackis: She sounds nice. :) |
| 23:35.36 | Unkle_ | She is nice. No clue why she married him. |
| 23:35.46 | Ackis | lol |
| 23:35.52 | mckenziemc | ~Unkle++ |
| 23:35.53 | Ackis | Ressy: hands off she's mine |
| 23:36.02 | TC-Work | Trela: i dont think so, the log echos the username and they are all lowercase |
| 23:36.04 | Unkle_ | And on that note.. ciao. |
| 23:36.38 | Vladinator | anyone know some library to parse raw text and produce objects out of the data? :( |
| 23:37.06 | TinyCog | You could use Lua |
| 23:37.14 | Kraps | whoa that null cross is huge |
| 23:37.30 | Ressy | Ackis: Not into women thx. I've got my own pain in the ass husband to deal with. |
| 23:37.40 | Vladinator | my problem is, huge data and custom data structure, need to somehow import it in some language as objects :( |
| 23:38.01 | Trela | Kraps: Huge null cross! Broken site. X3 |
| 23:38.06 | Vladinator | I can define the rules, but antlr was too complex for me -_- |
| 23:38.16 | Vladinator | lexical grammar rules thingy, too much, too advanced :P |
| 23:38.22 | Ackis | Ressy: he sounds like he has the patience of a saint |
| 23:38.36 | Ressy | lmao. More like I do. |
| 23:38.38 | TC-Work | Ackis: you are just looking for another beating |
| 23:38.44 | Primer | Vladinator: use perl! |
| 23:38.49 | Primer | runs |
| 23:38.58 | Vladinator | I need some library name to look at, not language :P |
| 23:39.15 | Primer | What exactly are you doing? Just curious |
| 23:39.34 | mckenziemc | i thought you were running |
| 23:39.45 | Primer | I came back |
| 23:39.48 | Ackis | TC-Work: why would I get a beating? |
| 23:39.58 | Jamash | TC-Work: what language is that? |
| 23:39.59 | Primer | my inner troll prevents me from running too far |
| 23:40.05 | TC-Work | Ackis: why wouldnt you? |
| 23:40.05 | Vladinator | trying to parse this data: http://vlacula.no-ip.com/32645472.zip |
| 23:40.09 | Vladinator | that was for you Primer |
| 23:40.14 | TC-Work | Jamash: tcsh |
| 23:40.18 | Jamash | gtfo |
| 23:40.24 | TC-Work | not my creation |
| 23:40.29 | Jamash | tell them to gtfo |
| 23:40.37 | Primer | downloads |
| 23:40.42 | TC-Work | they left the company a long time ago |
| 23:40.46 | Jamash | uninstall tcsh |
| 23:40.48 | Jamash | problem solved |
| 23:40.50 | Primer | damn, our network here is so slow |
| 23:40.52 | Vladinator | how's your speed, Prime? |
| 23:40.54 | TC-Work | no can do |
| 23:41.22 | Primer | we only have 15m down here, but it's on Time Warner, and TW's border slows considerably around this time of the day |
| 23:42.09 | Vladinator | I got ~1mb/s upload so should suffice :( |
| 23:42.12 | Primer | Vladinator: all joking aside...perl was invented to parse such crap |
| 23:42.50 | Jamash | well, can't help then, I have no tcsh knowledge |
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| 23:43.10 | Vladinator | I wrote a basic parser in java that parsed the frames and packets isolated BUT the issue is parsing the inside data, like a frame can or may not have packets but keyvalue pairs, or maybe it has both, or none, or packets have tables, keyvalue pairs, e.g. very non structured yet there are only a couple of type of data. |
| 23:43.40 | Primer | ugh, java |
| 23:43.41 | Vladinator | writing this myself, I can do it but jeez it was a lot of time spent just parsing and organizing, having to convert the data into objects and such, I gave up and looked for libraries on the net :P |
| 23:43.44 | Jamash | so have a front end that figures out what the data type is and then a class for each data type |
| 23:44.11 | Vladinator | I gave up on nested tables parsing |
| 23:44.12 | Vladinator | :P |
| 23:44.12 | Primer | Why you would do this using anything but a scripting language...boggles my mind |
| 23:44.35 | Vladinator | the language is irrelevant in my case, I'd do it the same way for all languages |
| 23:44.47 | Primer | not true |
| 23:44.52 | Vladinator | except if there was some library to help transform weird table syntax into objects :D |
| 23:45.09 | Vladinator | based on my knowledge it wouldn't mater what I wrote this in :P |
| 23:45.17 | Vladinator | based on YOUR knowledge maybe not, so share and help me |
| 23:45.18 | Vladinator | :P |
| 23:45.28 | Primer | Well, you said you wrote something in PHP yesterday... |
| 23:45.39 | Primer | PHP + preg |
| 23:45.52 | Primer | and be done with it |
| 23:45.52 | Vladinator | hmm |
| 23:46.04 | Vladinator | look |
| 23:46.45 | Vladinator | line 2695 |
| 23:46.48 | Vladinator | that frame for example |
| 23:47.49 | Vladinator | the amount of spaces indicate the level of the array and such, I don't think it's that easy just using regex :p |
| 23:48.42 | Vladinator | or line 407712 look how weird the data is "nested" -_- |
| 23:49.18 | Vladinator | who ever wrote this parser that produced that output should have added an option to output as some sort of data file, xml, something, raw text is a pain lol |
| 23:49.44 | Primer | You might have to manually deal with each exception |
| 23:50.02 | Primer | You were handed a clusterfuck, you need a clusterfuck to deal with it |
| 23:50.09 | Vladinator | :( |
| 23:50.10 | Primer | life's a bitch |
| 23:50.15 | Vladinator | I wish regex was more awesome :P |
| 23:50.26 | Primer | it is |
| 23:50.28 | Vladinator | so I can define repeating if else and such :P |
| 23:51.05 | Primer | PCRE especially |
| 23:51.16 | Primer | We all know what the P stands for, right? :) |
| 23:51.25 | Primer | points at Adys |
| 23:51.29 | Vladinator | root = frame* |
| 23:51.29 | Vladinator | frame = packet+ |
| 23:51.29 | Vladinator | packet = title? (kvpairs|tables)+ |
| 23:51.29 | Vladinator | then keep going and defining more |
| 23:51.49 | Vladinator | something like that, more complex matching that you can build more and more rules :P |
| 23:52.13 | Jamash | Vladinator: what software produced this dump? |
| 23:52.28 | Vladinator | that's what antlr does, it's a language parser, BUT it's a hell to learn the syntax tbh, was getting errors when I used too much ?* e.g. itgot confused :P |
| 23:52.33 | Vladinator | it's the official demo parser tool |
| 23:52.39 | Vladinator | https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Dota_2_Demo_Format |
| 23:53.09 | Vladinator | I don't got C so can't compile the sources myself :/ |
| 23:53.18 | Torhal | Trela: Having fun yet? |
| 23:53.27 | Vladinator | if I had VS10 I could just use the sources and modify it to serve my purpose, but sadly... :( |
| 23:53.40 | Trela | Torhal: Wondering when I get to get all lettery with WoA. |
| 23:53.42 | Jamash | who the heck uses octal for anything but nix perms |
| 23:54.04 | Primer | to represent binary? |
| 23:54.06 | Torhal | Trela: Did you read this yet? http://www.tentonhammer.com/playerscore/news/spark-welcome |
| 23:54.07 | Primer | in text |
| 23:54.13 | Jamash | that's what hex is for |
| 23:54.20 | Trela | Torhal: Yes. ...LOL so much BS. |
| 23:54.37 | Primer | yes, and octal too, apparently |
| 23:54.41 | Vladinator | the program decodes the binary format of the file into more usable data, sadly the output text is just useless |
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| 23:57.23 | Primer | So wtf's up with the "virus and keylogger" talk? Don't people know you can't get addons or keyloggers from unzipping an addon? |
| 23:59.11 | Torhal | Primer: People get hacked/infected. Months later, just as they download that shiny new AddOn, the infection is activated. Tracks covered. |
| 23:59.24 | Primer | You lost me |
| 23:59.32 | Torhal | "RIGHT after I got X AddOn from Y site, I was compromised! HALP!" |
| 23:59.51 | Torhal | People get malware long before they know about it. |
