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| 00:27.40 | ladyblink | i want to kill my dog |
| 00:27.48 | ladyblink | not really. but yeah, ido |
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| 00:54.25 | kd3|netbook | the vacation was good (and necessary), but I'm kinda glad I'm flying home tomorrow afternoon |
| 00:54.42 | kd3|netbook | soooo much crap I can't do from my netbook/phone |
| 00:56.07 | ladyblink | drive u crazy doesnt it |
| 00:56.10 | ladyblink | what netbook do u have |
| 00:56.28 | kd3|netbook | an old (seriously?) inspiron mini 10v |
| 00:56.51 | kd3|netbook | just realized that it's... 3? 4? years old at this point |
| 00:57.49 | ladyblink | ah yeah |
| 00:57.57 | ladyblink | ITS OBSOLETE PAPERWEIGHT |
| 00:57.58 | ladyblink | jk |
| 00:58.11 | ladyblink | im all frustrated cause i have 0$ for a new rig |
| 00:58.16 | ladyblink | want want want NEEEEED |
| 00:59.51 | ladyblink | and there is an old laptop that this little tablet i'm on is probably faster than it, sitting downstairs. Used to be a mother beast of a gaming rig like 7 years ago |
| 01:00.41 | ladyblink | now its like watching a loved object slowly die. bought a duplicate for parts, screen is dying, the other one's mobo was dead |
| 01:00.43 | ladyblink | its pathetic |
| 01:05.18 | TC-Work | I want a new system as well but atm car > computer |
| 01:05.30 | ladyblink | yeah. put that on my list as well |
| 01:05.32 | TC-Work | and so i buy a new car |
| 01:05.42 | ladyblink | mine is in the shop due to transmission issues |
| 01:05.58 | ladyblink | but if i have a rig i could at least not think about everything else lol |
| 01:06.39 | TC-Work | mine is running fine except for 14 mpg. however it is ~20 years old so i think it is time for a new one |
| 01:06.55 | ladyblink | yeah |
| 01:07.06 | ladyblink | mine is 12 y.o. its a vw blue beetle |
| 01:07.29 | ladyblink | ive been the only owner, always taken care of it but this year we are putting more in it than its worth. if i had $$$ I'd finish customizing it and sell that sucker |
| 01:07.48 | ladyblink | reupholster + dash kit is all it needs |
| 01:07.56 | ladyblink | then it would be PIMP |
| 01:08.07 | ladyblink | and the diesel engine is straight |
| 01:08.16 | ladyblink | but all the other electronics are going bananas |
| 01:08.22 | TC-Work | If i bring a MBP into my car it more than doubles in value.... |
| 01:31.23 | TC-Work | kd3|netbook: how would that had differed from spend a week lazing about your home instead. |
| 01:31.32 | TC-Work | spending* |
| 01:36.08 | Esamynn | anyone else have a beta client handy? I can't seem to logon any character |
| 01:37.00 | p3lim | Which server? |
| 01:37.07 | Esamynn | US pve |
| 01:38.39 | p3lim | No go here, EU server is just fine |
| 01:38.47 | Esamynn | sighs |
| 01:39.00 | TC-Work | not having much luck are you Esamynn |
| 01:39.01 | ladyblink | bye guys!! |
| 01:39.09 | p3lim | Just hangs up on the loading screen on Lost Isles, then disconnect after a few minutes |
| 01:39.11 | TC-Work | wasnt that the same issue a few days ago |
| 01:39.15 | TC-Work | bye ladyblink |
| 01:39.51 | p3lim | Actually, EU seems to have the same issue, worked fine a few minutes ago |
| 01:40.01 | Esamynn | lol |
| 01:40.03 | Esamynn | figures |
| 01:40.06 | Esamynn | did they reboot it? |
| 01:46.42 | ccox | All servers are down at the moment |
| 01:46.50 | ccox | rebooted about 45 minutes ago |
| 01:47.03 | ccox | sorry, shutdown 45 minutes ago |
| 01:52.09 | ccox | servers are starting to be available again |
| 01:52.36 | Esamynn | was it a shutdown? I thought it was just a reboot |
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| 02:02.03 | ccox | ...and they're down again |
| 02:03.12 | ccox | and back up, maybe |
| 02:03.27 | Ackis | blizzard is mean :( |
| 02:04.03 | Ackis | we were on scarlet crusade and sent a scroll to a friend, he finally accepted it but we transferred off the server and are on a new server and they won't let him get a free transfer to our server |
| 02:04.20 | Shirik | ._. |
| 02:04.26 | Ackis | seems like something they never thought of when they did the promotion |
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| 02:10.17 | Esamynn | us pve is back up now |
| 02:54.32 | ccox | and they're down again |
| 03:15.46 | Primer | OMG WTF, you can't cast vampiric touch on Darkmoon island! |
| 03:16.15 | Primer | Can't cast it in the arena either |
| 03:31.03 | End_ | oh display lua errors got disabled |
| 03:31.08 | End_ | well that explains that |
| 03:31.19 | End_ | guess it happened in a crash |
| 03:37.55 | mckenziemc | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:22.14 | Adys | I see wowinterface has a git repo option now |
| 04:22.21 | Adys | is there integration with github? |
| 04:22.46 | Adys | eg. i have a github repo, id like to keep my project on github but i wouldnt mind wowinterface hosting it too |
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| 04:23.26 | Adys | Iriel maybe? |
| 04:25.53 | Adys | dolby: I can't enter https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/e8e0b24aed31d207814cd6b177d5bcdf?s=110 as my avatar url on the forum, it says "invalid file". know why? |
| 04:26.16 | Thunder_Child | because it's not a valid file |
| 04:26.26 | Adys | its a png |
| 04:26.28 | Adys | at least to me? |
| 04:31.32 | Thunder_Child | Adys: are you linking it or uploading it? |
| 04:31.49 | Thunder_Child | also, is that something awfull? |
| 04:31.54 | Thunder_Child | awful* |
| 04:31.56 | Thunder_Child | w/e |
| 04:32.01 | Adys | whats awful? |
| 04:34.07 | Arrowmaster | like all the anime i try to watch on hulu is restricted to mature audiences..... |
| 04:35.13 | Arrowmaster | one was even so badly censored i went and downloaded it instead |
| 04:40.51 | Mr_Rabies | unless they censor violence they're probably doing you a favor :p |
| 04:43.43 | F16Gaming | interesting |
| 04:43.46 | F16Gaming | "In your case, I can confirm that your home realm was briefly down, which likely caused you to receive this error message. Your Hearthstone would normally work." |
| 04:44.04 | F16Gaming | though, everyone else could hearth out successfully seconds before me |
| 04:45.43 | Adys | F16Gaming: what happened? |
| 04:46.01 | F16Gaming | tried to hearth out of tempest keep: the eye and received "Transfer Aborted: instance not found" |
| 04:46.14 | Adys | yeah that happens |
| 04:46.25 | F16Gaming | and then i had to wait 15mins for the HS to refresh .d |
| 04:46.31 | Adys | Arrowmaster: i have a geeky boner |
| 04:46.46 | Arrowmaster | sigh... ok why |
| 04:46.46 | Adys | Arrowmaster: i gave my non-root system users a pink PS1 |
| 04:47.09 | Arrowmaster | why would your non-root SYSTEM users have a PS1 |
| 04:47.14 | Adys | postgres |
| 04:47.36 | Arrowmaster | ok never messed with it so no clue |
| 04:47.56 | Adys | well its pretty much the only one... |
| 04:49.23 | Adys | Arrowmaster: http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9417/screenshotca2fc97c.png |
| 04:49.38 | Arrowmaster | thats purple |
| 04:49.45 | Adys | its magenta |
| 04:49.47 | Adys | jesus christ marie |
| 04:49.55 | Arrowmaster | PURPLE |
| 04:50.06 | Adys | MINERALS |
| 04:50.28 | Arrowmaster | i dont know where this is going anymore |
| 04:50.36 | Adys | SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UUUUUUPPPP. |
| 05:14.38 | Shirik | o.O |
| 05:23.55 | Fisker | punches Thunder_Child |
| 05:25.21 | Thunder_Child | swallows Fisker whole |
| 05:25.27 | Fisker | sup? |
| 05:25.29 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 05:26.28 | Fisker | :'( |
| 05:26.32 | Fisker | i hey'd you Shirik |
| 05:29.51 | Thunder_Child | dont sweat it Fisker, he is the machine in the ghost. |
| 05:31.10 | Fisker | why do you hate Thunder_Child ? |
| 05:31.23 | Thunder_Child | i dont hate Thunder_Child |
| 05:46.22 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 05:46.32 | Fisker | finally |
| 05:50.45 | Esamynn | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 05:50.45 | purl | teaches Thunder_Child that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right. |
| 05:50.47 | Esamynn | ~lart Fisker |
| 05:50.47 | purl | chops Fisker in half with a free AOL CD |
| 05:50.53 | Esamynn | behave you two |
| 05:51.31 | Esamynn | oh dear, purl was cruel to you Thunder_Child |
| 05:51.34 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
| 05:51.34 | purl | Esamynn: aw, gee |
| 06:00.24 | Fisker | umad Esamynn ? |
| 06:00.36 | Esamynn | nope |
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| 07:14.22 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 07:14.33 | bluspacecow | Alert status on #Tongariro lifted |
| 07:14.51 | bluspacecow | word from the Mountain himself ? "LOL" and "U mad NZ ?" |
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| 07:35.54 | mikma | bluspacecow: whats tongariro |
| 07:36.11 | bluspacecow | a mountain that erupted down here. |
| 07:37.04 | mikma | you call your penis that? cool |
| 07:38.35 | Esamynn | ~lart mikma |
| 07:38.35 | purl | beats mikma to within 2.54cm of his life |
| 07:38.52 | bluspacecow | giggiglty |
| 07:39.17 | mikma | purl has 2.54cm life? |
| 07:39.35 | mikma | can has foodtime plz |
| 07:40.12 | Esamynn | ~fishslap mikma |
| 07:40.12 | purl | ACTION slaps mikma up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 07:44.19 | zenzio | http://forgifs.com/gallery/d/203488-1/Multicultural-Obama-handshakes.gif |
| 07:47.09 | Ackis | fuck me |
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| 08:07.40 | Ackis | I'm messed up |
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| 08:18.12 | Torhal | Ackis: ? |
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| 08:22.49 | zenzio | so, dumping all our databases leaves a 4.4 G SQL file. Trying to find out why that is... ibdata1, I'm looking at you :-| |
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| 08:42.59 | Fisker | zenzio did you check if there's logs for rollbacks+ |
| 08:44.14 | zenzio | nope, but I'm rather sure there aren't. The people who set this up were surprisingly... not especially capable |
| 08:45.06 | zenzio | that's actually part of the reason I started looking into it in the first place, could've used one for one of the databases recently |
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| 09:23.46 | Fisker | last time i rescued an almost dying sql server it was with full transaction recovery :o |
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| 09:36.32 | bluspacecow | :| |
| 09:36.36 | bluspacecow | http://www.fatso.co.nz/Movies/The_Sarah_Jane_Adventures_-_Series_3_2009/500725 |
| 09:37.01 | bluspacecow | that sinking feeling where you just paid $4 canadian for something you could of gotten for free |
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| 10:07.53 | karl_w_w | could have, you uneducated goon :P |
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| 10:36.55 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:40.55 | bluspacecow | i'm considering watching the doctors wife again tonight. |
| 10:41.52 | zenzio | is he aware of this? |
| 10:42.04 | zenzio | cause it sounds like creepy voyeurism |
| 10:43.05 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 10:43.42 | bluspacecow | http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Doctor's_Wife_(TV_story) |
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| 12:08.00 | karl_w_w | wow |
| 12:08.14 | karl_w_w | windows 7 moving a file "there is not enough free memory" |
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| 12:08.31 | karl_w_w | quit one or more programs and try again |
| 12:08.52 | karl_w_w | 800mb memory available |
| 12:10.56 | karl_w_w | maybe it's because MSE is scanning |
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| 12:50.59 | Elkano | any trick known to have SecureAuraHeader calculate its size correctly on login? |
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| 13:06.37 | karl_w_w | Elkano: ask it nicely |
| 13:07.47 | Elkano | if I don't set minWidth/Height it breaks completely; if I do set them, this will be its size o login despite the shown auras taking more space... |
| 13:08.12 | Elkano | if they are set, changing auras results in correct size, if they aren't that won't fix it either |
| 13:08.23 | zenzio | live or beta? |
| 13:09.58 | Elkano | beta |
| 13:13.11 | foxlit | The set of people who can answer your question is limited to those who've actually used SecureAuraHeader, which is pretty much no one :( |
| 13:14.48 | foxlit | You could try posting the offending code somewhere, but the comments would probably be superficial at best. |
| 13:29.37 | Ackis | best sub-reddit evar: http://www.reddit.com/r/freebies/ |
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| 13:41.03 | Elkano | yeah, foxlit, I don't really want to use it either but people keep calling for it to allow canceling buffs infight :/ |
| 13:41.18 | foxlit | do they ever list any examples? |
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| 13:41.47 | Elkano | I hoped for the whole Cata live cycle that Blizzard fixes it or reverts/modifies the restricton but well :/ |
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| 13:43.09 | foxlit | continue ignoring it, imo :) |
| 13:45.55 | karl_w_w | yeah running an MSE scan seems to intermittently interrupt reading from the HD |
| 13:47.07 | foxlit | the one concrete example that was listed on your comment page was ice block, and they can toggle that using an action button instead. |
| 13:47.34 | foxlit | On a scale of 1 to not worth it, porting to SAH looks pretty not worth it to me :P |
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| 14:05.57 | karl_w_w | "Do you share accommodation with the owner of the home?" |
| 14:06.20 | karl_w_w | if you pay for a bedroom and share the rest of the house is that a yes? |
| 14:09.51 | zenzio | where is this question? |
| 14:10.47 | zenzio | actually, I suppose I wouldn't really know anyway; my English is not sufficient to determine what that question really means |
| 14:11.30 | karl_w_w | I suppose it's yes |
| 14:33.20 | karl_w_w | did you know, ducks don't need satellites? |
| 14:34.36 | karl_w_w | http://www.4shared.com/mp3/eRTMdmbO/10_-_Ducks_Dont_Need_Satellite.html see, proof |
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| 15:46.52 | bluspacecow | da faq |
| 15:46.53 | bluspacecow | http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/06/amazon-launches-its-own-game-studio-goes-social/ |
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| 15:50.36 | karl_w_w | the FAQ? |
| 15:53.57 | karl_w_w | ducks don't need satellites, ducks don't need satellites, they probably don't know they're up there, ducks don't need satellites |
| 15:54.57 | karl_w_w | they don't need satellites, they most likely think the sky ends blue, no need to think about the black, give a quack get a quack quack back |
| 15:56.15 | bluspacecow | https://twitter.com/The_Whip_Hand/status/232756724614971393 |
| 15:57.17 | karl_w_w | duck don't need telephones, duck don't need telephones, just perfectly happy to swim along, duck don't need telephones |
| 15:57.33 | karl_w_w | s//s/ etc |
| 15:58.40 | Sintacks | hmm. a US 50 guild is trying to recruit me from my US 130 guild, and offering to pay for my xfer. hmmmm |
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| 16:11.06 | nevcairiel | dont do it, its a trick |
| 16:11.54 | bluspacecow | haha lol |
| 16:11.55 | bluspacecow | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=448469981852898&set=a.427752363924660.104338.266198070080091&type=1&ref=nf |
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| 16:19.51 | karl_w_w | oh look they kilt demonoid |
| 16:20.00 | Dagmar | That shit has to stop |
| 16:20.13 | Dagmar | The Ukraine shuttered the site as a "present" to the US. |
| 16:20.22 | TC-Work | they 'kilt' it a while ago |
| 16:20.50 | Dagmar | We can't keep pushing other countries (or "encouraging" them) into enforcing *our* laws on *their* territory |
| 16:20.58 | Dagmar | That is incredibly wrong. |
| 16:21.20 | nilyaK | what was demonoid? |
| 16:21.25 | Dagmar | It was a Torrent site |
| 16:21.30 | nilyaK | oic |
| 16:21.31 | Dagmar | ...and they were definitely all about the piracees |
| 16:21.56 | Dagmar | They even monitored your ratios over there |
| 16:22.23 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 16:22.24 | Fisker | jelly? |
| 16:22.25 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/lPFFj.png |
| 16:22.25 | foxlit | "Dagmar: That is incredibly wrong." << why? |
| 16:22.26 | Dagmar | PirateBay is at least an "all comers" site where you're welcome to and encouraged to push up legit content |
| 16:22.38 | bluspacecow | nope. |
| 16:22.49 | bluspacecow | "no pen or touch input is avaliable for this display" |
| 16:22.50 | bluspacecow | noob |
| 16:22.57 | Dagmar | Fisker: Because what Demonoid was doing wasn't illegal in the Ukraine |
| 16:23.12 | Dagmar | It makes the actions of the Ukraine goverment thuggery and totalitarianism |
| 16:23.22 | Fisker | when did i start participating in this discussion? :o |
| 16:23.34 | foxlit | the moment you decided that the second letter of your name was an i |
| 16:23.37 | Dagmar | We would not tolerate this shit on our soil, so we shouldn't tolerate it or condone it when others do it on our behalf. |
| 16:23.46 | nilyaK | at 9:23:19AM Pacific time |
| 16:23.47 | nevcairiel | Dagmar just called foxlit Fisker, he should better stop talking now |
| 16:23.48 | Dagmar | Fisker: When I typo'd. Get over it |
| 16:24.12 | Dagmar | We're still trying to snatch that kid in the UK up, and that's utter bollocks. |
| 16:24.13 | Fisker | i was just asking, get over it yourself |
| 16:24.27 | Dagmar | They wouldn't have a chance of getting him if he were here |
| 16:24.30 | karl_w_w | http://www.itu.int/ITU-D/ict/statistics/explorer/index.html pretty cool |
| 16:24.49 | foxlit | that's "why" for the specific case. |
| 16:25.00 | foxlit | but what about the general "into enforcing *our* laws on *their* territory"? |
| 16:25.29 | Dagmar | What about it? The MPAA is basically doing it |
| 16:26.09 | bluspacecow | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=412725475460197&set=a.268489309883815.67691.268330443233035&type=1&ref=nf |
| 16:26.10 | foxlit | yesyes, but why is that incredibly wrong? |
| 16:26.12 | bluspacecow | BEER CHEES |
| 16:26.12 | karl_w_w | <Fisker> http://i.imgur.com/lPFFj.png <- bad luck Fisker |
| 16:26.32 | Dagmar | ...because it's their territory, not ours |
| 16:26.38 | foxlit | Does it apply to all laws? |
| 16:27.07 | Fisker | whoop |
| 16:27.07 | Dagmar | No, apparently just the ones backed by totalitarian media monopolists |
| 16:27.18 | foxlit | What about general principles? Should the US government be pushing other governments into instituting democracy on their territory? |
| 16:27.35 | nilyaK | IMO, no. |
| 16:27.53 | Dagmar | foxlit: Actually, I'd say "no" there as well |
| 16:27.55 | karl_w_w | no but they do, which is quite ironic |
| 16:28.07 | Dagmar | Suggesting it would be cool if they were democratic is one thing |
| 16:28.11 | foxlit | You can say "no" and be okay with that, I'm just trying to find a line here |
| 16:28.22 | Dagmar | The line is really simple. |
| 16:28.29 | Dagmar | It ends at our country's borders. |
| 16:28.44 | foxlit | so, murdering your own citizens, A-OK as long as its on your own territory? |
| 16:28.45 | Dagmar | We threw a fit and splintered from the UK over taxation and rule without representation or redress. |
| 16:29.35 | Dagmar | If we start snatching people up in *other countries* using mechanisms for *criminal enforcement* over *civil issues* then we're about six kinds of wrong |
| 16:29.36 | nilyaK | we generally seem to think so @ foxlit, as long as you don't invade Poland. |
| 16:29.47 | foxlit | or dunno, developing nuclear weapons. |
| 16:29.56 | Dagmar | Nuclear weapons are their own punishmnet |
| 16:29.57 | nilyaK | which is depressing really =/ |
| 16:30.15 | Dagmar | People have forgotten how bad those things are. |
| 16:31.17 | Dagmar | foxlit: As nice as it would be to say "Oh yeah we should invade and bring them peace" it's a morally questionable thing to be doing |
| 16:31.30 | Dagmar | It also fails the rule of law |
| 16:31.44 | Dagmar | There is _no_ way such a thing should be considered unconditionally okay |
| 16:32.11 | Dagmar | Any such actions should always be an exception to the general rule of law which should be given great care and deliberation |
| 16:32.33 | foxlit | Isolationism is an okay position, but I don't think it's been the US foreign policy for a while now. |
| 16:32.39 | Dagmar | This isn't isolationism |
| 16:33.00 | Dagmar | The US foreign policy has been to meddle whenever the lobbyists thing it would be profitable |
| 16:33.21 | Dagmar | That has been their policy for some time. Only rarely has it had a damn thing to do with peace |
| 16:35.15 | Dagmar | If another country is engaged in some kind of slaughter, it's not like it's impossible to go before the Congress for approval here, and the UN to get their take on it simultaneously |
| 16:35.16 | foxlit | while it's probably not the proper use of the term, I'm using isolationism to encompass this idea of "you shall not interfere outside your own borders" |
| 16:35.38 | Dagmar | Yeah that should be our _general behaviour_. Not to fuck around and force our views on other countries |
| 16:36.04 | foxlit | I don't really see anything wrong with using diplomacy to advocate your own views |
| 16:36.13 | Adys | http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/xtfri/in_worlds_1st_commercial_deepsea_mining_project/c5pggny |
| 16:36.14 | Adys | OH. |
| 16:36.14 | foxlit | "Hey britain, it'd be cool if you were to adopt our copyright laws!" |
| 16:36.15 | Dagmar | Diplomacy is fine. Let me know when we go back to using it. |
| 16:36.15 | Adys | SNAP. |
| 16:36.35 | Dagmar | Lately it's all invasions and back room deals |
| 16:37.00 | foxlit | back room deals smell like this diplomacy thing. |
| 16:37.08 | Dagmar | No, back room deals are still _back room deals_ |
| 16:37.15 | foxlit | It's not like the MPAA is invading people to enforce copyrights :) |
| 16:37.36 | Dagmar | They are not diplomacy because they're out of the view or oversight of the people they're supposed to be on the behalf of, namely us |
| 16:38.12 | nilyaK | ^MPAA does not represent the interests of the people of the United States |
| 16:38.17 | foxlit | That's representative democracy for you? |
| 16:38.21 | Dagmar | foxlit: no, they're just bribing people and calling in favors so that "inter-agency liasons" are sending thug squads to arrest people who didn't ever visit our country |
| 16:38.44 | foxlit | You elected some officials to act on your behalf, those officials are acting as they see fit. |
| 16:38.48 | Dagmar | That kid in the UK who ran TVshack... He actually followed DMCA guidelines, even though he didn't have to |
| 16:38.59 | Adys | MPAA represents the interests of a small selection of people in the US |
| 16:39.03 | Dagmar | He aggressively removed infringing content on a regular basis. |
| 16:39.03 | Adys | and nobody else in the fucking world |
| 16:39.11 | Dagmar | ...and yet they're trying to extradite him to here. |
| 16:39.16 | Adys | thats the issue with it enforcing its idiotic policies in other countries |
| 16:39.28 | Dagmar | Following that back, the question is "who is?" and the answer is entirely unclear |
| 16:39.41 | Dagmar | We can't stop it because we don't know who to apply pressure to |
| 16:39.48 | foxlit | the specific case isn't of much interest to me -- it's the general "we shouldn't be trying to get others to adopt our laws" that strikes me as odd. |
| 16:40.06 | Dagmar | foxlit: there's a difference between "trying" and "doing" |
| 16:40.16 | Dagmar | We are actively _doing_ far more than merely asking. |
| 16:40.38 | Adys | foxlit: different countries have different opinions on how things should be dealt with |
| 16:40.48 | Dagmar | Dotcom got raided not because there was a bunch of porn/piracy on MU. Dotcom got raided because he directly went after the core of UA's buisness model, i.e., their ability to ship media worldwide |
| 16:40.50 | Adys | foxlit: different cultures come with different laws as well |
| 16:41.18 | Dagmar | He was offering the ability to ship media worldwide for a song and a nearly flat rate, without all the "we get 70% of the take" bullshit that UA does |
| 16:41.21 | Adys | foxlit: religious countries have laws that may make sense in those countries, should they apply pressure to the US to adopt those laws? |
| 16:41.27 | foxlit | Adys: yes. |
| 16:41.35 | Adys | why? |
| 16:42.12 | Adys | laws are not on an additive basis |
| 16:42.13 | foxlit | Because why not? As a government, you're probably convinced that the laws /you/ wrote are awesome, and so it would be in the interest of your constituents if they applied everywhere. |
| 16:42.19 | Adys | you don't just say "why not" to a law |
| 16:42.22 | Adys | you say "why" |
| 16:42.33 | Dagmar | Now, because of the way Dotcom was raided and by who and who for, ther'es literally no way to ever fix that |
| 16:42.44 | foxlit | There's a justification in the next sentence, Adys. |
| 16:43.00 | Dagmar | They've done permanent harm to MU and Mr. Dotcom, and he literally has no legitimate form of redress. |
| 16:43.03 | Adys | foxlit: No, there isn't. the why comes from the people it applies to, not the ones who don't give a shit about it |
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| 16:43.40 | Dagmar | The media jackasses that called the shots on that haven't even given any decent evidence to the FBI, which is why the FBI hasn't given any decent evidence to NZ, which is why NZ is getting pretty pissed |
| 16:43.44 | Adys | foxlit: laws are made to protect the citizens of a country. it is not (generally) in the interest of the citizens of any country for one country to pressure another into adopting a law |
| 16:43.45 | nilyaK1 | not that I know the specifics of how ever sort of enforcement is dealt with but I feel discussing the merits of a country's policy/laws with other nations is fine, but threatening say economic/military reprocussions is pretty sketchy. Surely there are cases where military action is warranted to stop genocide or oppression of people, but even then all the options should be considered and it's not something to be taken lightly. |
| 16:43.59 | nilyaK1 | When we infringe on a country's right to govern its own citizens and determine the merits of their actions we're basically saying we know better than you on how to run your country which is incredibly insulting, especially if the country is representing the wishes of its citizens. |
| 16:44.13 | Adys | nilyaK1: exactly, "it is not to be taken lightly" |
| 16:44.39 | Dagmar | nilyaK1: It's also a large part of the reason why there's a US, which makes this all so terribly hypocritical |
| 16:44.48 | Dagmar | _especially_ when it's over civil matters |
| 16:44.48 | Adys | i find it absolutely fucking absurd that everyone debates whether it's right of wrong, for example, to extradite odwyer |
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| 16:44.58 | Adys | when people should be debating WHY THE FUCK DOES HE NEED TO BE EXTRADITED? |
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| 16:45.23 | Dagmar | Exactly. |
| 16:45.37 | Dagmar | He didn't break any US laws and he didn't even apparently break any UK laws |
| 16:45.44 | karl_w_w | i remember when extradition was for people who committed a crime and then left the country |
| 16:45.58 | Adys | it's ridiculous |
| 16:46.00 | foxlit | again, I'm not interested in arguing with you about that specific case. |
| 16:46.04 | foxlit | Because you're right. |
| 16:46.06 | Dagmar | It's like people don't know how to hire mercenaries anymore or something |
| 16:46.11 | Adys | foxlit: yeah but that wasn't directed towards you |
| 16:46.33 | foxlit | However, it's absurd to claim that a government shouldn't be trying to change the law of other countries to better suit its own interest. |
| 16:46.35 | Adys | foxlit: i stand by my previous point, you say "why" to a law, not "why not" |
| 16:46.42 | Adys | yes, a government |
| 16:46.50 | Adys | as its own interest, it makes sense |
| 16:46.55 | Adys | but the should is incorrect |
| 16:47.04 | Adys | a government SHOULD protect the interests of its citizens |
| 16:47.15 | Adys | that SOMETIMES comes with protecting its OWN interests |
| 16:47.28 | Dagmar | Frankly I think they should ask the MPAA how much money O'Dwyer is liable for, extradite him here, and when it's shown that he didn't violate any laws and in fact did comply with the DMCA, make the fucking MPAA pay him that much in damages |
| 16:47.46 | Dagmar | bend them over the corn barrel and just go to TOWN on them |
| 16:48.08 | Adys | Dagmar: but wheres the mpaa going to find the ten billion trillion trillions they claimed when piracy is all over them? |
| 16:48.09 | foxlit | 1. Your major source of income is IP. 2. Shit, IP can be freely copied. 3. Gah, we need to make sure nobody copies our IP. 4. Lobby everyone to enact laws to protect your IP. |
| 16:48.21 | Dagmar | Adys Looks like they'll have to start selling some fuckin' cookies |
| 16:48.29 | Adys | I'd buy MPAA cookies. |
| 16:48.35 | Adys | Hell |
| 16:48.38 | Adys | I'd download MPAA cookies |
| 16:48.44 | Dagmar | You'd probably have to pay on a per-chew basis |
| 16:49.03 | nilyaK1 | I'd analyze the ingredients and publish a recipe |
| 16:49.13 | Dagmar | ...and of course everyone who doesn't buy them would have to pay an extra two cents for any non-MPAA cookie they might byu to offset the cost of shoplifting cookies |
| 16:49.26 | Adys | And they'd lobby for kids not to be able to share their cookies with their friends |
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| 16:59.47 | karl_w_w | if you break off a piece of cookie and give it to somebody else the Dough Rights Management kicks in and the piece disentegrates |
| 17:00.03 | karl_w_w | int* |
| 17:01.05 | Fisker | man |
| 17:01.09 | Fisker | curse client is ultimate slack |
| 17:01.15 | Fisker | doesn't even work out of the box for windows 8 |
| 17:01.28 | Fisker | i thought they pretty much used the newest .net framework even if it didn't exist :O |
| 17:01.29 | TC-Work | umad? |
| 17:02.03 | karl_w_w | why would curse worry about a customer base which is clearly going to go nowhere? |
| 17:02.19 | Fisker | :o? |
| 17:02.36 | karl_w_w | :D! |
| 17:06.59 | Dagmar | Yay for casual cruelty! |
| 17:07.11 | Dagmar | I just body-checked a stranger because of his t-shirt |
| 17:07.51 | Cartas | Body-checked? |
| 17:07.57 | Dagmar | Probably not the best idea to wear a shirt that says "The Rule Of Weight: The larger of two vehicles *always* has the right of way." |
| 17:08.07 | Dagmar | ...when you're about 5'2" |
| 17:08.23 | mikma | http://youtu.be/PK8dsAeMmPk?hd=1 |
| 17:08.25 | Dagmar | Oh yeah, I didn't even attempt to veer to share the sidewalk |
| 17:08.33 | Dagmar | I just deflected him off my left shoulder |
| 17:08.56 | Dagmar | Maybe he mainly only hangs out with midgets or people who can't read all that fast |
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| 17:11.35 | Cartas | People come in here to make fools of themselves by asking relatively simple questions regarding the development of WoW addons, right? |
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| 17:11.55 | Dagmar | not always |
| 17:12.00 | Dagmar | Sometimes they're in here to beg for a free account |
| 17:12.43 | Cartas | That's odd! |
| 17:13.11 | Cartas | Who doesn't already have a WoW account in this day and age? |
| 17:20.41 | TC-Work | People also come in here to make fools of other people |
| 17:21.41 | durcyn | not much work there |
| 17:22.28 | Dagmar | Cartas: Little ids who finally managed to get their accounts permabanned for being reprobates |
| 17:22.34 | Dagmar | s/ids/kids/ |
| 17:24.36 | Cartas | Need someone who is willing to spend a li'l' amount of time teaching me the crazy world of WoW coding, perhaps mostly with respect to containers/bags and their contents. :$ |
| 17:24.52 | Cartas | But I don't really know how crazily unrealistic such a request would be... |
| 17:25.59 | TC-Work | there are quite a few online resources |
| 17:26.31 | Arrowmaster | buy the book |
| 17:26.59 | Cartas | Well, I have an addon, but it seems to be quite complicated to get certain aspects working with, say, Baggins and the like. |
| 17:28.30 | TC-Work | you can always look at the code of say baggins and see how it does it |
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| 17:28.37 | cbreak | wow addons in general are easy |
| 17:28.50 | cbreak | if you have to deal with the protected api crap blizzard invented, then it's not easy anymore |
| 17:28.53 | Dagmar | it's programming them in tcl that's hard. |
| 17:29.03 | cbreak | back when I programmed, they changed the protected api every patch... |
| 17:29.17 | cbreak | no idea how that part looks now |
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| 17:32.37 | ZorbaTHut | I always felt like the whole "taint" thing was an abomination |
| 17:32.59 | ZorbaTHut | keeps them from updating to luajit, too |
| 17:33.31 | nevcairiel | the taint system is actually quite smart, rather have that then a totally locked down ui |
| 17:34.33 | cbreak | taint is an interesting thing |
| 17:34.57 | cbreak | but the mechanisms for still allowing button addons are a pain |
| 17:35.14 | cbreak | you had to somehow set weird special properties with endlessly long names |
| 17:35.19 | cbreak | just to cast simple spells |
| 17:35.21 | nevcairiel | its not all that bad |
| 17:35.29 | foxlit | "nevcairiel: its not all that bad" << I second that |
| 17:35.33 | nevcairiel | you sound like you live in early BC days |
| 17:35.39 | nevcairiel | when it was bad :P |
| 17:35.50 | cbreak | yeah, that's when I looked at it |
| 17:36.04 | cbreak | I later read they changed things but didn't bother looking to what |
| 17:36.14 | cbreak | maybe it's better... but still |
| 17:36.20 | nevcairiel | it was completly revamped with 3.0 (and to some degree with 3.1 again), since then its pretty good |
| 17:36.22 | cbreak | I would just allow botting :) |
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| 17:37.35 | TC-Work | I would allow it, but charge a massive premium for it |
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| 17:37.54 | nevcairiel | that still mandates the tech to block it then |
| 17:38.57 | cbreak | botting accounts should just be unable to trade with non-botting ones |
| 17:39.11 | cbreak | tricky to implement I guess |
| 17:39.19 | nevcairiel | whats the point of those then |
| 17:39.33 | cbreak | because writing robots is fun |
| 17:39.37 | foxlit | hey, writing bots to play WoW is a fun thing in and of itself. |
| 17:39.48 | nevcairiel | seems like a rather limited audience |
| 17:39.56 | foxlit | there's that, yes |
| 17:39.59 | cbreak | a few coworkers of me do that with real robots |
| 17:40.12 | foxlit | I hear mojang is doing something with a virtual CPU? |
| 17:40.12 | cbreak | but it's much harder since the hardware fails in weird ways |
| 17:40.15 | cbreak | and has limitations |
| 17:40.55 | cbreak | foxlit: java? |
| 17:40.58 | foxlit | http://0x10c.com/ |
| 17:43.15 | nevcairiel | i bet its java, seeing how minecraft is |
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| 17:49.08 | nicoli_s | pretty sure they already said its java |
| 17:50.29 | Dagmar | I am disappointed that it has apparently stalled out |
| 17:50.59 | Dagmar | I was really looking forward to witenessing the pain and suffering of spoiled brats trying to come to grips with the lack of a memory manager or multi-threading |
| 17:51.24 | bluspacecow | what a shame dagmar |
| 17:51.27 | Dagmar | "Hohoho! WHERE IS UR INSTANTATION GOD NAO?" |
| 17:51.51 | bluspacecow | may i offer an orphanage to burn down ? |
| 17:52.02 | Dagmar | I can land a fucking shuttle on equipment like that, but I doubt most of the kids who want to play it could |
| 17:52.45 | bluspacecow | they say the sum total of the computers that were used in the apollo landing was no more then a desktop calculator. |
| 17:52.47 | Dagmar | bluspacecow: Sorry, that does't work for me... Not even if I sell them "novelty" cigarette lighters |
| 17:53.03 | Dagmar | bluespacecow: They read a memory dump over the radio |
| 17:53.12 | bluspacecow | :| |
| 17:53.21 | Dagmar | Slightly longer than my SSN |
| 18:19.56 | bluspacecow | http://themetapicture.com/greetings-earthlings/ |
| 18:27.48 | TC-Work | Oh good, i needed a card that can simultaniously output to 6 30-inh 4K screens. |
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| 19:04.32 | TC-Work | http://workshop.chromeexperiments.com/projects/armsglobe/ |
| 19:05.31 | nevcairiel | should i be worried that there is this big thing going into canada |
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| 19:07.12 | TC-Work | it looks like the majority of it's $72 million import is from the us |
| 19:07.31 | TC-Work | although, that was 1992 |
| 19:08.53 | bluspacecow | http://workshop.chromeexperiments.com/bookcase/ |
| 19:08.58 | bluspacecow | IS INTERESTING TOO |
| 19:09.03 | bluspacecow | :| |
| 19:09.06 | bluspacecow | opps caps |
| 19:09.29 | TC-Work | not as nifty |
| 19:25.26 | F16Gaming | wtf: http://imgur.com/EwKyw |
| 19:25.38 | foxlit | http://rlv.zcache.de/css_ist_fantastisch_tasse-p168716435071981928enwnp_400.jpg << mildly amusing |
| 19:25.53 | F16Gaming | other side: http://imgur.com/gnFZx |
| 19:26.04 | TC-Work | foxlit: thats a spy mug |
| 19:26.32 | AcidWeb | F16Gaming: Temporal anomally! I hope you have your tricorder. |
| 19:27.19 | F16Gaming | it just keeps going above orgrimmar and out towards durotar |
| 19:27.32 | F16Gaming | http://imgur.com/Dzusb |
| 19:27.40 | F16Gaming | on live, btw |
| 19:29.05 | bluspacecow | http://coffin-comics.jesterbrand.com/2012/08/06/crisis-averted/ |
| 19:30.36 | Dagmar | You know what's really awesome? |
| 19:30.42 | nilyaK1 | pandas? |
| 19:30.43 | F16Gaming | :O this thing... is a tunnel ._O |
| 19:31.01 | Dagmar | I'm sitting here explaining to a bunch of java developers how and why they need to populate the keystore in their jboss instance if they want SSL connections to work |
| 19:31.12 | F16Gaming | http://imgur.com/n2cBF |
| 19:31.18 | F16Gaming | (it captured both my screens) |
| 19:31.19 | Dagmar | I begin to think the problem is that there is not a bong on my desk. |
| 19:32.37 | TC-Work | how exactly would you expect that to make them pay more attention? |
| 19:32.57 | mckenziemc | ~trout TC-Work |
| 19:32.57 | purl | ACTION slaps TC-Work around a bit with a large trout! |
| 19:38.03 | F16Gaming | also using 64-bit client |
| 19:43.12 | pompy | http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/6000/most-xbox-360-gamerpoints-achieved-in-24-hours-(individual) |
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| 20:01.18 | mikma | cairenn: http://www.break.com/index/dad-upgrades-sons-power-wheel-with-66hp-engine-2356055 |
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| 20:03.45 | Cairenn | I don't know whether to be amused, impressed, or horrified |
| 20:05.12 | mikma | all of those |
| 20:07.10 | Shadowed | Anyone played with SetReverseFill before? |
| 20:07.29 | Shadowed | like haste apparently |
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| 20:20.04 | kd3|netbook | huh. freenode does not like me connecting directly in xchat from logan, but the webchat works? |
| 20:21.00 | Fisker | hey kd3|netbook |
| 20:22.08 | kd3|netbook | 'lo |
| 20:23.18 | Fisker | have you checked if you have 32GB of memory? |
| 20:23.58 | kd3|netbook | I don't |
| 20:24.09 | kd3|netbook | no hardware I own supports that kind of ram either |
| 20:24.20 | kd3|netbook | though I do need to start looking in to building a new workstation |
| 20:24.26 | Fisker | maybe that's why you can't connect to freenode |
| 20:24.43 | kd3|netbook | nah, something about the VPN the airport's using |
| 20:25.11 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 20:25.17 | Arrowmaster | mikma, Cairenn: its only 0.66hp not 66hp |
| 20:25.31 | Cairenn | I know that, but it's still kinda crazy |
| 20:26.06 | Fisker | any idea why Blizzard haven't updated their SC2 installer to be the streaming installer kd3|netbook ? |
| 20:26.37 | kd3|netbook | probably once hots gets closer |
| 20:27.20 | Fisker | :'( |
| 20:27.22 | kd3|netbook | also, yay for CNN breaking in to show the nasa press conference a few hours back |
| 20:27.24 | Fisker | their damn torrent client is so slow |
| 20:27.44 | kd3|netbook | extract the torrent from the downloader and use your client of choice? |
| 20:27.50 | Adys | kd3|netbook: why xchat? |
| 20:27.54 | Adys | kd3|netbook: use quassel :) |
| 20:28.33 | kd3|netbook | eh, qt4 |
| 20:28.39 | Adys | so? |
| 20:28.40 | kd3|netbook | wonders if it's been packaged for fedora yet |
| 20:28.51 | Adys | qt4 is five years old |
| 20:28.54 | Adys | i would hope so |
| 20:29.11 | kd3|netbook | not qt4, quassel |
| 20:29.13 | Adys | sorry, seven years old :p |
| 20:29.16 | kd3|netbook | and yup, it shows in the pkgdb |
| 20:29.36 | Adys | I am fucking loving arch |
| 20:29.43 | Adys | Man |
| 20:30.06 | Adys | I know some people can be zealots about their distros, but i never believed you could actually *love* one |
| 20:31.46 | TC-Work | or make love to one.... |
| 20:32.01 | Adys | no I knew you could do *that* |
| 20:32.47 | TC-Work | linux powered 'aids' dont count |
| 20:33.09 | kd3|netbook | >.< |
| 20:34.54 | kd3|netbook | ugh. there's no place to sit that has power plugs that isn't in direct sunlight |
| 20:35.20 | Adys | gentlemen, I present to you: kd3|netbook, the embodiment of first world problems! |
| 20:35.54 | kd3|netbook | ayup |
| 20:36.06 | nilyaK | it's okay kd3 I feel your pain. |
| 20:39.24 | kd3|netbook | oh wow, just checked my main account, it hasn't disconnected once, as it's still showing the away message |
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| 20:41.49 | TC-Work | kd3|netbook: see, vacation is a good time for you to be downloading patches |
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| 20:43.08 | kd3|netbook | anyway, time to board |
| 20:50.22 | p3lim | Just me getting disconnects from using EquipmentManager_EquipSet()? |
| 20:50.26 | p3lim | On beta that is |
| 20:51.56 | p3lim | Even UseEquipmentSet() disconnects |
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| 21:00.32 | TC-Work | Fisker: I have 48GB here at work, does thay count? |
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| 21:01.05 | TC-Work | s/ay/at/ |
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| 21:07.25 | Fisker | nah TC-Work |
| 21:07.33 | Fisker | that would be too easy |
| 21:08.24 | Fisker | our esxi server got like a bazillion GB |
| 21:09.47 | Fisker | i just forgot what i was going to do |
| 21:12.34 | Fisker | i remembered! |
| 21:14.46 | mckenziemc | cool story Fisker |
| 21:14.48 | mckenziemc | go to bed |
| 21:14.55 | Fisker | thanks! |
| 21:15.28 | mckenziemc | o.o |
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| 21:26.51 | TC-Work | today we are upgrading the mem on our esxi server |
| 21:27.17 | TC-Work | it still wont be anywhere near close to the couple hundred render servers we have with 96GB of ram each |
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| 21:57.09 | TC-Work | hmm....can there be a wrongful firing if you have been hired on an 'at-will' basis? |
| 21:57.32 | Adys | Depends on your contract |
| 21:58.09 | TC-Work | the part of your contract that says you can be fired at-will |
| 21:58.42 | Adys | then by definition there cannot be wrongful firing, but that doesn't mean it cannot be brought up to court |
| 21:59.07 | nevcairiel | can contracts even overrule some of the basic employment laws? |
| 21:59.30 | nevcairiel | companys tend to make their contracts contain more then they can really enforce |
| 21:59.49 | Adys | nevcairiel: technically yes, but employees can call bullshit on them |
| 22:00.15 | Adys | it's a matter of "it only works if you don't look too close" |
| 22:00.48 | pompy | http://nerdreactor.com/2012/08/03/marvel-sued-over-avengers-box-set-packaging/ |
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| 23:12.25 | Adys | Arrowmaster: you any good with old computers? |
| 23:12.51 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 23:12.52 | Adys | I have a very old box here Im trying to boot into an arch rescue cd (bios doesnt support usb boot) |
| 23:13.08 | Adys | but it doesn't let me use the keyboard during boot |
| 23:13.12 | Adys | which means i cant change boot priorities |
| 23:13.28 | Arrowmaster | usb keyboard? |
| 23:13.31 | TC-Work | dont use a usb keyboard |
| 23:13.42 | Adys | das keyboard, it supports ps2 |
| 23:13.50 | Adys | supposed to anyway |
| 23:14.14 | Arrowmaster | if a ps2 keyboard doesnt work something is majorly wrong |
| 23:14.19 | TC-Work | ^ |
| 23:14.29 | Adys | well it works once booted into windows |
| 23:14.33 | TC-Work | although das may do something funky with the sugnal |
| 23:14.34 | Adys | its running windows ME |
| 23:14.37 | TC-Work | signal* |
| 23:14.54 | Adys | well |
| 23:14.55 | Adys | http://computershopper.com/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/media/images/das-keyboard-model-s-professional3/564164-1-eng-US/das-keyboard-model-s-professional_maxwidth.jpg |
| 23:15.01 | Adys | this is what the das cable looks like |
| 23:15.04 | Adys | its a double usb plug |
| 23:15.14 | Adys | but its supposed to work fine with a ps2 adapter |
| 23:15.17 | TC-Work | uh, i would try a legit ps2 |
| 23:15.35 | Adys | hm |
| 23:15.36 | Adys | i wonder |
| 23:15.37 | Adys | sec |
| 23:15.39 | Arrowmaster | ps2 adapters come in two different incompatible types, one for mice and one for keyboards |
| 23:15.48 | TC-Work | that as wekk |
| 23:15.49 | Adys | this is a keyboard adapter |
| 23:15.50 | TC-Work | well* |
| 23:20.19 | Arrowmaster | DG2 kickstarter tiers are getting all fucked up and confusing because of these stupid ATI cards |
| 23:21.01 | Arrowmaster | and it still looks like they wont hit the minimium |
| 23:25.59 | nicoli_s | DG2? |
| 23:26.48 | TC-Work | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hiddenpath/defense-grid-2 |
| 23:27.18 | foxlit | meh, 6 days, 47k |
| 23:27.54 | TC-Work | I know, kinda low for a well known game |
| 23:28.26 | foxlit | on the other hand, they've been at it for ~28 days now |
| 23:33.23 | Arrowmaster | imho they should have just left all the ati cards out of it, they missed the point of kickstarter, its not to get a great deal |
| 23:33.56 | TC-Work | I think they are kinda surprised about the lack of funds and are trying to do something to get more |
| 23:34.44 | Arrowmaster | well they already had all the gfx cards and mice and other stuff up there when i pledged |
| 23:35.37 | foxlit | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/vanquish-interactive/telikos-protocol-0?ref=home_popular << those are some cool-looking stills. |
| 23:36.14 | foxlit | on the other hand, physical delivery of items in 2015. That's got to be hard, planning-wise. |
| 23:36.28 | neutronimity | Good lord, wtf. Kickstarter being commercially abused |
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| 23:36.58 | neutronimity | The concept arts the have for it hit that they have the money for it - why kickstart it? |
| 23:37.46 | foxlit | neutronimity: why do publishers pay writers advances on books they haven't yet written? |
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| 23:38.29 | neutronimity | To make them write it and earn additional profit, if they do |
| 23:38.50 | neutronimity | I sometimes wish we were still living in the stone age |
| 23:39.20 | foxlit | presumably the same principle applies. |
| 23:39.38 | neutronimity | Mhm |
| 23:43.22 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:43.26 | Adys | i got it to boot |
| 23:43.42 | Adys | it boots into the cd but i still have no keyboard |
| 23:43.51 | Adys | i need a way to get the cd to start up on the default option |
| 23:44.17 | Arrowmaster | youll need to edit the bootloader on the cd |
| 23:44.21 | Arrowmaster | its probably grub |
| 23:45.05 | foxlit | http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/mechwarrior << checkpoint is awesome. |
| 23:58.10 | pompy | http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/293063_4061287644581_488632272_n.jpg |
| 23:58.44 | TC-Work | stop being such a wuss, and type them in |
