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| 03:25.16 | mckenziemc | ~botsnack pompy1 |
| 03:25.16 | purl | mckenziemc: thanks |
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| 03:28.45 | Amarande | yay. managed to fly into Naxxanar and not *die* this time :P |
| 03:30.17 | Amarande | last time I ran into a most nasty little foible |
| 03:32.09 | Amarande | though it seems like you can be mounted inside there now, soo ... :S |
| 03:32.53 | Amarande | Used to be, you had to be really careful about flying in, because it was considered an indoor area, so if you tried to fly in the bottom as is the obvious thought, before you had a chance to alight on the platform you would be considered indoors, dismount, and it's kind of a long way down ... heh |
| 03:33.22 | Amarande | My first character to level through Borean left a nice sized crater. :) |
| 03:40.56 | Arrowmaster | http://www.click2houston.com/news/Trooper-chases-smart-car-on-Houston-freeways/-/1735978/15922012/-/bvw43iz/-/index.html |
| 03:42.23 | mckenziemc | >.> |
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| 04:33.34 | ccox | starts debugging.. "world server is down"... Really, my code isn't THAT bad. |
| 04:35.16 | Kaylin | :( |
| 04:37.03 | mckenziemc | just lmgtyf'ed Mom again. |
| 04:38.24 | Kaylin | my mom doesn't know what the Internet is beyond the email account I set up for her and shopping for clothes. |
| 04:38.58 | quse | World server going down relentlessly is pretty disappointing =/ |
| 04:38.58 | Kaylin | I am baffled how she can buy so many things online and be unable to say, search for something on google that isn't a pair of shoes. |
| 04:39.16 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 04:39.54 | Thunder_Child | because finding thing to buy is easy |
| 04:40.01 | Thunder_Child | they put that stuff right infront of you |
| 04:41.24 | xyphoid | my wife's mother calls her up and gets her to search the internet for her :( |
| 04:41.51 | Kaylin | when I am 50, I' |
| 04:42.08 | Kaylin | m going to call my brother's kids and have them search for stuff for me on the Internet |
| 04:42.19 | Kaylin | my brother will help me troll them I know it. |
| 04:42.31 | Kaylin | they'll grow up thinking I have no idea how to use a computer. |
| 04:44.06 | ccox | I still wonder how my mom can find so many things online, but can't check snopes.com or factcheck.org before sending email to everyone she knows |
| 04:44.46 | Kaylin | pretty much, I email snopes links to people who send me stuff, I like to imagine they think the Internet is a cold and hostile place because of me. |
| 04:44.57 | Kaylin | look at this wonderful story I found! |
| 04:45.04 | Kaylin | it's a filthy lie, see this article |
| 04:45.14 | ccox | yeah, I send them snopes links, but then they say snopes is biased :-) |
| 04:45.14 | Dagmar | My mom sends me some that actually cite Snopes. |
| 04:45.23 | Kaylin | lol |
| 04:45.25 | Dagmar | ...which is the most lurid kind of bullshit ever invented. |
| 04:45.36 | ccox | Oh, yeah, I love the ones that start with "I checked this on snopes, and it's totally true!!!!" |
| 04:45.52 | ccox | (BIG red flag right there) |
| 04:45.57 | Dagmar | I think I made the extended family mad at me, because if you follow the actual link the ballsy little ponces used, it doesn't back up their story... but elsewhere on Snopes they definitely discount it. |
| 04:46.21 | Kaylin | even if it were, and that's a huge caveat, I still don't care. |
| 04:46.33 | Dagmar | ...and I kinda hit reply all and made comments about the type of gullible sheep who couldnt be bothered to click a link to think for themselves and investigate if it were emailed to them. |
| 04:46.59 | Dagmar | I get *less* stupid fucking mails now, but I'm surprised they didn't stop entire.y |
| 04:47.29 | Dagmar | Sisters, brothers, aunts and uncles. I am an equal-opportunity offender. |
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| 04:48.26 | xyphoid | oh we got one of those from the managing director |
| 04:48.32 | mckenziemc | hey blu |
| 04:49.22 | xyphoid | my favourite bit of the quote trail was 'WAYNE IS AN it GUY AND HE KNOWS A FEW THINGS!!' |
| 04:53.15 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:55.11 | Kaylin | my favorite bit of the quote trail was the lower one. |
| 04:55.38 | mckenziemc | pksoe bluspacecow |
| 05:05.13 | Fisker | mad bluspacecow ? |
| 05:05.30 | bluspacecow | idunnolol |
| 05:07.38 | Kraps | heres korra scratching her butt http://gyazo.com/eae6a64ac339031308edc666090b7c6b |
| 05:08.51 | Fisker | ymad bluspacecow ? |
| 05:09.00 | bluspacecow | yes |
| 05:09.33 | bluspacecow | i still haven't made it through avatar : the legend of aang and kraps shows me that ? |
| 05:09.39 | bluspacecow | total spoiler man :P |
| 05:10.12 | Kraps | sorry, butt-scratching is a huge spoiler :/ |
| 05:10.24 | Kraps | its a new form of bending |
| 05:10.31 | bluspacecow | they're all wearing the same sort of uniform aang does |
| 05:10.36 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:10.42 | Kraps | good eye |
| 05:11.19 | bluspacecow | im up to Book 2 earth volume 3/4 |
| 05:11.58 | Kraps | chapter 3? |
| 05:12.51 | Fisker | can i kill you bluspacecow ? |
| 05:13.05 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 05:13.15 | bluspacecow | krap the DVD series |
| 05:13.17 | Fisker | pls? |
| 05:13.39 | bluspacecow | only if you res me after |
| 05:13.44 | Kraps | yes theres 3 books |
| 05:14.05 | Kraps | which is 3 seasons |
| 05:14.46 | bluspacecow | http://www.fatso.co.nz/Movies/Avatar_-_The_Last_Airbender_Book_2_-_Earth_Vol_3/45161 |
| 05:14.53 | bluspacecow | from Episode 11 "The Desert" |
| 05:15.05 | bluspacecow | (scroll down) |
| 05:15.59 | Kraps | oh you get it like that |
| 05:16.25 | Kraps | netflix has the whole thing |
| 05:16.50 | bluspacecow | we have that in NZ nows |
| 05:16.55 | bluspacecow | well |
| 05:16.56 | bluspacecow | sort of |
| 05:17.10 | bluspacecow | but i only has a 30 GB data cap so ....... |
| 05:17.17 | Kraps | ah |
| 05:17.27 | Fisker | punches bluspacecow |
| 05:17.40 | bluspacecow | do I die from this lovetap ? |
| 05:18.18 | Kraps | which plan do you have bluspacecow |
| 05:18.30 | bluspacecow | plan? |
| 05:18.40 | Kraps | on that site |
| 05:18.46 | Fisker | don't be mad bluspacecow |
| 05:19.30 | bluspacecow | fatso ? 3 discs at a time no monthly limit with an option to "get now" some |
| 05:19.42 | bluspacecow | which means sometimes I get 6 at once almost |
| 05:19.42 | Kraps | kewl |
| 05:19.49 | Kraps | heh |
| 05:19.49 | mckenziemc | Fisker |
| 05:20.20 | Fisker | mckenziemc |
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| 06:05.24 | Fisker | http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/faster-zombies/ <-who was complaining about a lack of updates to the Steam Linux blog btw? |
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| 06:59.48 | karl_w_w | you were Fisker |
| 07:01.41 | ccox | and looks like someone just managed to hose wowhead |
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| 07:03.21 | pompy1 | ccox: fine here |
| 07:03.41 | ccox | regular and mop just lost most of their data for me, and I'm signed in. |
| 07:03.52 | ccox | even pages I accessed 10 minutes ago are missing all the data. |
| 07:04.45 | Mr_Rabies | works fine here, what's missing for you |
| 07:05.10 | ccox | everything but the name of the item. Trying another browser. |
| 07:05.39 | ccox | Works in Firefox, borked in Safari and Chrome. |
| 07:05.53 | pompy1 | did you try restarting chrome? |
| 07:06.31 | ccox | no, I've got too many other things going in my browsers |
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| 08:39.48 | karl_w_w | is it me or is there something exciting about tracking a package you are waiting for? |
| 08:40.04 | zenzio | I enjoy that |
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| 08:40.34 | karl_w_w | i mean I've got 2 coming at the moment, one is a birthday present for someone who's birthday is sept 30th |
| 08:40.49 | karl_w_w | so it's not like it's going to make a difference when it gets here |
| 08:41.18 | zenzio | actually remember tracking my first copy of WoW. I had decided I would never play it, but an American friend of mine thought otherwise and sent me a copy... tracking it I could see how quickly it went from New Mexico to New York, Paris... the stalled in Oslo |
| 08:41.26 | zenzio | *then |
| 08:41.27 | nevcairiel | if the contents are not for me the excitement usually goes down a bit |
| 08:41.46 | zenzio | nevcairiel: well that's sort of a given |
| 08:42.34 | nevcairiel | karl seems to track a present for someone else so shrug |
| 08:47.15 | karl_w_w | well it's from me |
| 08:47.35 | karl_w_w | it's less interesting than if it was for me, like the other one I'm tracking, but I still track it |
| 08:48.09 | karl_w_w | even though I know once it gets here it's just going to sit on a shelf somewhere unwrapped for about 7 weeks |
| 08:52.36 | Mr_Rabies | amazon prime has gotten me addicted to watching order tracking |
| 08:55.50 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sb5MTS5LwQ |
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| 11:18.28 | Fisker | Stanzilla |
| 11:18.29 | Fisker | wake up |
| 11:20.41 | Kalroth | go to bed Fisker |
| 11:21.37 | karl_w_w | go to Fisker Kalroth |
| 11:21.55 | Kalroth | nooo |
| 11:22.11 | Kalroth | damn antipodeans |
| 11:39.08 | neutronimity | OK I think I found why steam crashes on me. I was limiting its network download to 5KB/s |
| 11:41.19 | zenzio | why were you limiting it? |
| 11:43.36 | neutronimity | My usual download speed is around ~30-50kB/s |
| 11:44.28 | neutronimity | I got to share those precious 50kB/s with my brother as well :( |
| 11:44.58 | zenzio | I find it interestnig anyhow that it'd crash... I didn't think it transferred much time-critical stuff |
| 11:46.09 | neutronimity | It hangs at "connecting to steam account .." after its usage rises to 79-80k |
| 11:54.02 | Kalroth | I get that too, but it's because I got a ton of games installed |
| 11:54.22 | Adys | Arrowmaster: you use google voice US yes? |
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| 12:42.50 | Lopeppeppy | Caffeine is baaaad for evil redheads. Just sayin'. |
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| 13:07.25 | karl_w_w | http://www.catchoftheday.com.au/smallfish_info.php?event_id=1439 omg guys check it out, $90 for 2 incredibly uncomfortable looking chairs! |
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| 13:15.15 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, those look just like the ones in the cafeteria here. |
| 13:15.23 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/HDLCa |
| 13:17.44 | karl_w_w | um |
| 13:18.08 | karl_w_w | he didn't know they make a tangy sauce out of tomatoes? |
| 13:23.12 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/Pj0aL |
| 13:26.39 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://imgur.com/gallery/0GekT |
| 13:28.45 | mikma | http://youtu.be/5K1RcKJVbHA |
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| 13:38.54 | foxlit | anyone familiar with imagemagick? |
| 13:39.53 | foxlit | I'm rendering some text onto an image, and would like to make it slightly bolder. There's obviously no way to do that, so I'd instead like to mess with the alpha channel (increasing the opacity of semi-transparent pixels in the font string). |
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| 13:44.46 | foxlit | -channel and -evaluate |
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| 13:47.59 | Stanzilla | Fisker: sup |
| 13:48.28 | Fisker | you know whats sup |
| 13:48.59 | Stanzilla | a leak happened? |
| 13:49.02 | bluspacecow | Soup! |
| 13:49.06 | bluspacecow | oh noes |
| 13:49.09 | bluspacecow | a leak in the soup |
| 13:49.11 | bluspacecow | Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 13:49.17 | Stanzilla | oh steam is blinking |
| 13:49.20 | Stanzilla | Fisker: yay |
| 13:51.44 | Lopeppeppy | 24 hours, and I'm on my way to a fabulous vacation paradise! |
| 13:52.17 | Unkle | FLOSTON PARADISE! |
| 13:52.57 | Thunder_Child | not a vacation, people had to deal with Ruby |
| 13:53.28 | Unkle | with RUBY ROD! |
| 13:53.33 | Torhal | Unkle: Multipass. |
| 13:53.48 | Unkle | Anyone else care to negotiate? |
| 13:54.34 | Lopeppeppy | I don't mind Ruby Rod, really. |
| 13:54.45 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, she *knows* it's a multipass. |
| 13:55.06 | Lopeppeppy | I love the sex versus takeoff scene, it's awesome. |
| 13:55.24 | Thunder_Child | just wait till he is yellying 'super green' into your ear every 5 seconds.... |
| 13:55.32 | Unkle | That movie and "The Professional" are the only reasons Luc Besson still gets to make films. |
| 13:55.35 | Thunder_Child | yelling* |
| 13:56.38 | Kalroth | Unkle: Taken and Transporter and Banlieue 13! |
| 13:56.51 | bluspacecow | *licks Lopeppeppy* |
| 13:56.59 | Unkle | Duh, Taken. |
| 13:57.03 | bluspacecow | *a cow lick is left behind in her hair* |
| 13:57.03 | Unkle | If forgot. |
| 13:57.11 | Unkle | I haven't seen the last one. |
| 13:57.34 | Unkle | I'm assuming it's a French film and I can find it sub-titled? |
| 13:57.50 | Kalroth | Yup yup |
| 13:58.08 | Unkle | Oh hell, it's on Netflix even. |
| 13:58.13 | Kalroth | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0414852/ even got a decent imdb score, especially considering its storyline |
| 13:58.24 | Kalroth | "Set in the ghettos of Paris in 2010, an undercover cop and ex-thug try to infiltrate a gang in order to defuse a neutron bomb. " |
| 13:58.35 | Thunder_Child | yea, thats a great movie |
| 13:58.42 | neutronimity | looks. |
| 13:58.46 | Thunder_Child | and #2 is good as well |
| 13:58.58 | Kalroth | yeah, i like #2 too |
| 13:59.02 | Kalroth | ultimatum |
| 13:59.06 | Thunder_Child | the whole thing is parkour based |
| 13:59.46 | Kalroth | Les aventures extraordinaires d'Adèle Blanc-Sec is pretty good too |
| 14:00.15 | Kalroth | (in part because the main actress is a qt-pi!) |
| 14:00.40 | bluspacecow | :| |
| 14:00.52 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6201271966?page=2#32 |
| 14:00.55 | bluspacecow | sudo su |
| 14:00.58 | bluspacecow | not sure if want. |
| 14:02.10 | foxlit | EJ_GetCurrentTier(6) -> crash client |
| 14:02.22 | bluspacecow | also |
| 14:02.23 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6246475007 |
| 14:02.25 | bluspacecow | LOL |
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| 14:14.43 | foxlit | "local infinateLoopPolice = false; --design migh make a tier that has no instances at all sigh" |
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| 14:16.25 | Humbedooh | me fail English? that's unpossible! |
| 14:16.58 | Shirik | infinite loops are illegal in C++ anyway |
| 14:17.25 | Unkle | The compiler should catch any noobish errors that set them up. But… |
| 14:30.14 | Unkle | AC/DC playing. "Let Me Put My Love Into You" is probably grounds for HR action. |
| 14:31.17 | pompy | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:33.06 | karl_w_w | if only ac/dc had more than 1 decent song |
| 14:33.45 | Shirik | thunderstruck? |
| 14:34.00 | Shirik | back in black? |
| 14:34.17 | Shirik | YES I'M OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW AC/DC SONGS |
| 14:34.31 | Shirik | that's about all I know though |
| 14:34.38 | karl_w_w | <Shirik> thunderstruck? <- winner |
| 14:34.38 | mikma | tnt != dynamite |
| 14:35.49 | Shirik | btw pompy lol @ top comment "I've seen the refurb process and it's quite exhausting. First they have to wrap the game. Then they put a sticker price tag on the game. Then they have to bring the game all the way out and onto the shelf so people can buy it. It's something I will never wish on my worst enemy." |
| 14:35.50 | Unkle | Shirik: You're TOO YOUNG! TOO YOUNG!! |
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| 14:38.11 | pompy1 | Shirik: haha yes that was classic |
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| 14:48.59 | p3lim | My external hdd is making weird sounds, any of you have any clue what this means? http://p3lim.net/bleep.mp3 |
| 14:50.54 | AcidWeb | Some external drives beep when they are close to hardware failure. |
| 14:51.12 | p3lim | Its a Samsung HM100UI |
| 14:51.12 | AcidWeb | Check SMART |
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| 14:53.42 | p3lim | Does windows have included software for that? |
| 14:55.08 | mikma | no |
| 14:55.42 | Kalroth | http://www.passmark.com/products/diskcheckup.htm |
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| 14:57.07 | p3lim | Thanks Kalroth, I'll try that one |
| 14:57.34 | p3lim | My disk doesn't show up in that program |
| 14:57.49 | Kalroth | what kinda disk is it |
| 14:57.53 | p3lim | External |
| 14:58.46 | Kalroth | oh poop, missed that |
| 14:58.49 | p3lim | Doesn't show up in explorer neither |
| 14:58.55 | Kalroth | i dont think you can access smart info over usb |
| 14:59.16 | Kalroth | maybe this http://hddscan.com/ |
| 14:59.30 | Kalroth | gotta rush, gl! |
| 14:59.59 | p3lim | And it doesnt show up in Disk Management (windows) either |
| 15:00.39 | mikma | make sure to plug it in the back of the computer, not in the front :P |
| 15:00.47 | p3lim | It is |
| 15:01.05 | p3lim | Its not the controller atleast, tried attaching a different hdd to it |
| 15:01.15 | p3lim | Gonna try plugging it right into the MB |
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| 15:06.54 | p3lim | Doesn't show up in windows at all |
| 15:08.27 | bluspacecow | but if yours start emitting smoke |
| 15:08.35 | bluspacecow | get the - oh wait the |
| 15:08.39 | bluspacecow | window was not scrolled up |
| 15:08.41 | bluspacecow | ignore |
| 15:10.30 | Ackis | Cairenn|afk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EAq4ffOaRE (how to save baby bears bwaaaa) |
| 15:11.33 | karl_w_w | p3lim: try linux so you can use dmesg? |
| 15:12.43 | p3lim | It doesn't even show up in bios xD |
| 15:12.48 | p3lim | Think it's borked |
| 15:13.24 | karl_w_w | tried a different cable? :P |
| 15:13.34 | Lopeppeppy | huggles bluspacecow. VACATION! |
| 15:13.41 | Torhal|work | Lopeppeppy: Multipass. |
| 15:13.54 | bluspacecow | A fewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkksssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss |
| 15:13.58 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:14.16 | karl_w_w | Torhal|work: did Lopeppeppy ask you what the world's most awesome winamp skin is? |
| 15:14.22 | Torhal|work | No. |
| 15:14.53 | Lopeppeppy | huh? |
| 15:14.57 | Lopeppeppy | Didn't know I wanted to know. |
| 15:15.03 | Lopeppeppy | Only 10 daysm, bluspacecow, but so fun. |
| 15:15.16 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 15:15.29 | bluspacecow | i may book for a forced vacation soon |
| 15:15.40 | bluspacecow | something about requiring to take leave days |
| 15:17.47 | Shirik | bluspacecow: Until gencon? |
| 15:18.09 | bluspacecow | well lets just say |
| 15:18.21 | bluspacecow | for Blizzcon they gave me a month off |
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| 15:18.43 | Shirik | you should go to gencon |
| 15:18.44 | bluspacecow | but i needed to book a few months ahead. |
| 15:18.51 | Shirik | heh :( |
| 15:18.57 | bluspacecow | a con on Generals ? |
| 15:19.01 | Shirik | no! |
| 15:19.05 | Shirik | The best 4 days in gaming! |
| 15:19.06 | bluspacecow | *dons military general hat* |
| 15:19.10 | bluspacecow | ShirikCon |
| 15:19.27 | Lopeppeppy | Which Gencon, Shirik? |
| 15:19.33 | Shirik | http://www.gencon.com/2012/indy/default.aspx |
| 15:19.44 | p3lim | karl_w_w: Doesn't make any difference.. Time to get a new external hdd :) |
| 15:19.57 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, Indy. I think that's short notice for him to get a hotel and all, nu? |
| 15:20.02 | karl_w_w | in case anybody wanted to know, i love changedetection.com |
| 15:20.09 | Shirik | yeah |
| 15:20.21 | Shirik | it was incredibly expensive a month ago |
| 15:20.25 | Shirik | don't want to think what it would be onw |
| 15:20.27 | Shirik | now |
| 15:20.32 | Shirik | isn't paying :D |
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| 15:26.11 | bluspacecow | Shirik serving nibbles and drinks in exchange for a ticket |
| 15:26.12 | bluspacecow | groovy. |
| 15:26.29 | Shirik | not quite |
| 15:26.58 | bluspacecow | :P |
| 15:33.04 | Ackis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr-buV4tYOA skyrim dragonborn cover... pretty cool |
| 15:33.34 | Parnic | holy reverb |
| 15:34.03 | karl_w_w | reverb makes music better! |
| 15:35.40 | Ackis | the girl singing that is amazing |
| 15:35.52 | Ackis | I'm listening to her to the game of thrones intro with her voice |
| 15:36.18 | karl_w_w | why isnt y slow working :( |
| 15:37.12 | Shirik | wow that's good |
| 15:38.06 | Ackis | still not as cute as the baby bear one I linked earlier :D |
| 15:38.23 | Shirik | http://i.imgur.com/INX9o.jpg is still cuter than anything on the internet, ever |
| 15:38.52 | Ackis | well played good sir |
| 15:44.12 | Unkle | You win this time, Shirik! But you haven't seen the last of me yet! *shakes fist ruefully* |
| 15:46.02 | Unkle | Also, Gen Con and Origins are awesome if you like pen and paper, card, and board games. Oh yes, days of fun. |
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| 15:49.58 | Lopeppeppy | I have a friend who goes to Origins religiously, tries to get me to go with him every year. |
| 15:50.43 | Stanzilla | I eat onions religiously |
| 15:51.25 | Lopeppeppy | Onions are facing a nationwide recall due to bacterial contamination or something. Beware! |
| 15:51.41 | Parnic | i contaminate stanzilla's onions religiously |
| 15:51.44 | nevcairiel | good not to be part of your nation, then! |
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| 15:52.59 | Stanzilla | man the newest epic meal time is so gross |
| 15:54.02 | Shirik | Unkle: Everyone should love card games |
| 15:54.13 | Shirik | they require an element of strategy not found in online games |
| 15:54.19 | Unkle | Shirik: I love many of them, but not all of them. |
| 15:54.30 | Unkle | I play a mean game of whist. |
| 15:54.37 | Shirik | you should play the WoW TCG |
| 15:54.45 | TC-Work | Shirik: which element would that be? |
| 15:54.58 | Unkle | Are you mental? Do you not recall me buying starters at BC last year? |
| 15:55.04 | Unkle | On your reccomendation? |
| 15:55.07 | Shirik | I do not :( |
| 15:55.09 | Shirik | but yay! |
| 15:55.52 | bluspacecow | LOL |
| 15:55.59 | Unkle | Also, the booth babe's french accent was working insidious mind control powers on my lower brain stem. |
| 15:56.09 | |Jelly| | Dear Unkle, Stop ripping off Shirik's cute! -FB Friends |
| 15:56.09 | Shirik | I'll be taking my level 3 test at Gen Con. If all goes well, I will be in the top 15ish judges |
| 15:56.42 | Unkle | Negative. Resistance is futile. We will add your cutness to our own. |
| 15:56.51 | foxlit | Shirik: did they tell you about their plan to take over the world yet, or is that level 5? |
| 15:56.55 | Shirik | that's level 5 |
| 15:57.30 | bluspacecow | "lower brain stem" |
| 15:57.35 | bluspacecow | is that what they're calling these days |
| 15:57.37 | bluspacecow | giggigtyy |
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| 15:58.15 | Unkle | the part where my brain connects to the spinal collumn and contains "primitive response" mechanisms? Yes, that's what we've been callin in since the 1880s… |
| 15:58.58 | bluspacecow | i was thinking lower. |
| 15:59.09 | Unkle | Dirty minded freak. :P |
| 15:59.47 | bluspacecow | :D |
| 15:59.49 | bluspacecow | thats me! |
| 16:00.21 | Unkle | New Dr. Who seanson trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrEUBl2pacU |
| 16:00.50 | bluspacecow | yay! |
| 16:00.50 | Unkle | season. Shit. Take my keyboard away, I can't use it properly. |
| 16:01.07 | bluspacecow | also possible spoiler if you take things too literally |
| 16:01.31 | bluspacecow | 's ok unkle we has gestalt . ie even with mispellings we know wot u mein |
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| 16:03.50 | TC-Work | no way Unkle, that means you wuld not have to do any work |
| 16:04.03 | Unkle | Wouldn't that be delicious? |
| 16:04.43 | TC-Work | sure...for you |
| 16:06.14 | Unkle | Well, yeah. |
| 16:06.29 | Dagmar | The Doctor... riding a triceratops with a look of "LOL" on his face. |
| 16:06.39 | Dagmar | No, that won't become a meme at all. |
| 16:07.11 | TC-Work | fighting Nazi's! |
| 16:07.28 | bluspacecow | it'll be the new 'sup meme |
| 16:07.41 | bluspacecow | 'sup (chilling on top of ma triceratops) |
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| 16:45.11 | bluspacecow | @Cairenn|afk http://imgur.com/r/aww/0qJQV |
| 16:45.14 | bluspacecow | wet pup! |
| 16:49.47 | bluspacecow | erm |
| 16:49.51 | bluspacecow | http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history#1.3.1 |
| 16:50.03 | bluspacecow | "Made Singleplayer internally use a Multiplayer server" |
| 16:50.23 | bluspacecow | does this mean i can't play without an active network connection ? |
| 16:50.51 | haste | I would expect that it starts a server and connects to that one |
| 16:51.02 | bluspacecow | ah well |
| 16:51.24 | bluspacecow | it's not like i can play it at work with their outdated graphics cards incompatiable with Minecraft |
| 16:51.26 | bluspacecow | :| |
| 16:51.36 | bluspacecow | gamesiusedtoplay |
| 16:52.09 | bluspacecow | *Gotye sings* "And you'll be a game I USED TO PLAYYYY!" |
| 16:52.22 | mikma | giggidy |
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| 17:00.11 | cbreak | minecraft needs a graphics card? |
| 17:01.23 | Unkle | Minecraft seems to require very little in terms of graphic card power, unless it's ofloading to GPU from the CPU |
| 17:02.37 | Ackis | yayayayayayaya I beat red in pokemon heartgold!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 17:05.54 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 17:06.01 | bluspacecow | maybe i'll take another look one day |
| 17:06.04 | bluspacecow | sleep time nows |
| 17:07.43 | Jamash | sup birches |
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| 17:09.22 | Jamash | I remember when games first started requiring an active network stack to play singleplayer, since they were using sockets to connect to an internal loopback server |
| 17:09.41 | Jamash | quake 1, I think? |
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| 17:11.13 | haste | y |
| 17:12.06 | Jamash | z |
| 17:16.56 | mikma | http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:DinnerboneTripwireDev3.png |
| 17:20.23 | Jamash | looks legit |
| 17:20.27 | Jamash | steps on it |
| 17:20.51 | Jamash | actually it couldn't have been quake 1, that ran on DOS |
| 17:21.08 | Jamash | maybe quake 2? been so long I forget |
| 17:24.50 | jnwhiteh | Ackis: the answer to that question is almost always 'no', but I can help with asynchronous stuff |
| 17:24.54 | jnwhiteh | or you can try me on gtalk |
| 17:28.07 | mikma | GALK YOU LATER |
| 17:31.42 | mikma | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stkdevlopers.homeunlock.pro |
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| 17:36.39 | Ackis | I might do something I've never done before... not cut off my nose to spit my face and swallow my pride :O |
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| 17:47.44 | Stanzilla | tongues |
| 17:48.21 | Kraps | new ac3 trailer showing connor killing rebels |
| 17:53.13 | mikma | kraps: http://www.rlslog.net/shaft-1971-720p-bluray-x264-kaka/ |
| 17:53.59 | Kraps | why does my filter block that for "hacking" |
| 17:54.30 | mikma | not the first time rlslog has been filtered as dangerous site :D |
| 17:54.51 | Kraps | what is it |
| 17:55.18 | mikma | shaaaaft |
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| 18:39.47 | Ackis | a wild jnwhiteh appears |
| 18:41.15 | mckenziemc | uses ~smackis. |
| 18:41.17 | mckenziemc | ~smackis |
| 18:41.17 | purl | ACTION smacks Ackis. |
| 18:41.27 | Ackis | fuck purl is back? :( damnit |
| 18:41.47 | nilyaK | ~syn |
| 18:41.47 | purl | ack |
| 18:45.56 | mikma | ~sin |
| 18:46.24 | nilyaK | ~synack |
| 18:46.29 | nilyaK | :( |
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| 18:54.25 | Lopeppeppy | ~botsnack |
| 18:54.25 | purl | Lopeppeppy: aw, gee |
| 18:54.50 | Maldivia | tsk tsk Lochte... |
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| 19:05.07 | TC-Work | Dont be mean to purl, Ackis |
| 19:05.38 | TC-Work | OR FIRE SHALL RAIN DOWN FROM THE HEAVENS |
| 19:05.43 | TC-Work | UPON THEE |
| 19:05.43 | Ackis | I'll be mean to EVERYBODY |
| 19:06.14 | Humbedooh | even your crabs? :o |
| 19:06.48 | Ackis | they aren't people |
| 19:06.53 | Ackis | and they claw me the b astartds |
| 19:09.09 | nilyaK | grab them behind their stupid back claws |
| 19:09.14 | nilyaK | then they can't pinch you |
| 19:09.49 | Ackis | those little fuckers will probably climb out of their shells just to pinch me |
| 19:10.05 | nilyaK | damn hardshelled crabs mirite? |
| 19:10.27 | Ackis | hermit crabs |
| 19:10.33 | Ackis | Cairenn: http://i.imgur.com/dDXZf.jpg |
| 19:10.48 | nilyaK | we have dungeness crabs up here, and spider crabs but nobody seems to catch those |
| 19:11.00 | Ackis | spider crabs == nope |
| 19:11.04 | Cairenn | pretty, although sneaky, kitty |
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| 19:11.32 | nilyaK | (and they are delicious) |
| 19:11.34 | Ackis | did you see the baby bear resuce youtube I linked earlier Cairenn? |
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| 19:14.17 | Unkle | http://notalwaysright.com/the-cosplayer-is-always-right/22297 - I have trouble believing it is true, but I *want* to believe. |
| 19:14.21 | Cairenn | Yeah I did, it was cute |
| 19:14.47 | nilyaK | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeness_Crab |
| 19:14.59 | nilyaK | see look how tasty they look |
| 19:15.47 | nebula169 | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/Macrocheira_kaempferi.jpg on the other hand.. |
| 19:16.04 | Kraps | that is neat Unkle |
| 19:16.25 | Unkle | Any chance to say "I am Batman!" legitimately is a good thing. |
| 19:17.22 | nilyaK | spidery |
| 19:18.53 | nilyaK | these dungeness crabs are not cooked, they get all red when cooked |
| 19:20.26 | Kraps | oh come on http://notalwaysright.com/the-facts-of-second-life/22306 |
| 19:24.58 | nilyaK | if legit, somebody's trolling irl. |
| 19:25.26 | Dagmar | Trolling semi-pro |
| 19:25.49 | Dagmar | I just spotted a whiteboard in the common area of our new offices with the following written on it: |
| 19:26.15 | Dagmar | "Guinnesses (a.k.a sysadmins)" with an arrow pointing next to it |
| 19:26.20 | Dagmar | I had to ask. |
| 19:26.26 | Dagmar | Now I wish I hadn't. |
| 19:26.36 | Dagmar | I added a red squiggly and an angry Clippy. |
| 19:27.35 | Dagmar | ...cuz it's not like I didn't just diagnose an SSL connection problem for our java admins that amounted to a failure to populate the java keystore with more than one certificate, in five minutes flat. |
| 19:27.46 | Dagmar | I r not java coder. |
| 19:27.55 | Dagmar | I r a guiness apparently. |
| 19:28.07 | Dagmar | . o O ( kill me. ) |
| 19:28.33 | Unkle | *stab*stab*shoot* |
| 19:30.24 | Dagmar | ah... blessed release... |
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| 19:31.28 | nilyaK | hawt |
| 19:31.46 | mckenziemc | Dagmar: you say that rigth as Amarande wakes. |
| 19:32.52 | Dagmar | <HR Lady> So what are your primary areas of responsibility here? |
| 19:32.59 | Dagmar | <Me> Keeping everyone's secrets |
| 19:33.40 | Dagmar | I should go ahead and get a second plastic novelty skull for hte workspace and give it a thin coating of plaster of paris and let them all wonder |
| 19:34.10 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 19:34.27 | Dagmar | Note: Cops *don't* find that sort of realism amusing |
| 19:37.58 | Esamynn|work | ~kill Dagmar |
| 19:37.58 | purl | ACTION shoots a ionized anti-quark gun at Dagmar |
| 19:39.48 | Shirik | welp, gen con is fucked |
| 19:40.00 | Lopeppeppy | I thought you were excited about it. |
| 19:40.08 | Shirik | someone got into their head that I'm organized (lol) and I'm a team lead |
| 19:40.41 | Amarande | heh, and Gen Con is actually one of the cons that are on my potential "maybe in future years" list now that I'm no longer going to Dragon*Con after this year |
| 19:41.57 | Mr_Rabies | why not, Amarande |
| 19:42.45 | Unkle | 6.5 years of archived email… nuked. Talk about liberating. |
| 19:42.46 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: well, besides the $1,000+ hotel cost, the fact that I don't care to deal with the agita of trying to *get* a decent hotel room. |
| 19:43.04 | Mr_Rabies | oh |
| 19:43.19 | Amarande | Let's put it this way. If it was not for the woefully inadequate servers that Passkey has for D*Con booking, the hotel rooms would probably sell out as fast as BlizzCon tickets |
| 19:43.25 | Mr_Rabies | you could get a hotel outside the perimeter and drive ~15 minutes to the con for way cheaper |
| 19:43.55 | Mr_Rabies | though you have to spend about $20 a day on parking |
| 19:43.56 | Mr_Rabies | :/ |
| 19:44.05 | Unkle | Driving to anything in Atlanta is never a 15 min trip. |
| 19:45.01 | Mr_Rabies | we usually manage in about that time |
| 19:45.28 | Mr_Rabies | we book a hotel around the cobb galleria center or vinings and drive in from there |
| 19:45.55 | Amarande | And, since apparently there's no system in place to temporarily hold your room while you're entering billing info (unlike the aforementioned blizzcon ticket thing), I imagine that you'd probably have to be East Asian and from somewhere like Los Angeles, San Francisco, or NYC to get a room in that case. :P |
| 19:46.31 | Amarande | Not, of course, a jab at East Asians at all, but more noting that when your name is something like Xi Wu and you're from a city where you can just put down "LA" or the like, you're going to easily beat us Westerners who have to type in much longer names and have to actually type out our city. |
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| 19:49.51 | Unkle | Wow. That was… that was the most thinly veild slam I have ever had the misfortune to witness. |
| 19:50.36 | Shirik | Amarande: Yeah it is really expensive :( |
| 19:50.45 | Shirik | It's much cheaper to go when you have a company paying for you :D |
| 19:51.17 | Cairenn | >< |
| 19:51.59 | Shirik | cryptozoic treats their judges well :) |
| 19:53.31 | Amarande | However, Passkey does have woefully inadequate servers, so it's more like a lottery as to who gets the room, based on who actually gets server bandwidth at a given moment and who simply gets a timeout error each time they try. :P |
| 19:53.45 | Amarande | This year, I won the lotto, but I don't really feel like playing it in future years. :) |
| 19:54.44 | Amarande | Shirik, do Gen Con rooms have as crazy of a rush as D*Con's? |
| 19:54.54 | Shirik | I dunno, I didn't book it |
| 19:55.02 | Lopeppeppy | Okay, everypeople. I am OFF. Vacation. Ta ta. |
| 19:55.07 | Shirik | have fun! |
| 19:55.08 | mckenziemc | nooooo |
| 19:55.12 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: yay! have fun! |
| 19:55.17 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: drink some mead for me! |
| 19:55.18 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik enjoy the con. Unkle, enjoy the drive. Everyone else, enjoy the peace and quiet. |
| 19:55.25 | Shirik | :/ |
| 19:55.28 | Lopeppeppy | Pennsic ahoy!!! |
| 19:55.59 | Kraps | Pennsic already? |
| 19:56.09 | Cairenn | yep |
| 19:56.45 | Amarande | Shirik: I'm guessing not, then, since your company probably was able to get a group set of rooms |
| 19:57.22 | Amarande | Which actually is how it used to be for D*Con for me, I belong to a Wheel of Time fansite that used to book a block of rooms and then sell slots to members around July. But for 2012 it was decided not to do it, and would have been impossible to do even if they wanted to |
| 19:57.30 | ccox | Yeah, some of my friends have been working on Pennsic preparations for a month already |
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| 20:02.06 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2012/08/come-on-no-cape-dark-knight-motorcycle-l.php |
| 20:04.19 | Dagmar | Have you ever been snatched by the neck off a motorbike at 80mph? |
| 20:04.24 | Dagmar | Try it wearing a long cape. |
| 20:04.30 | Dagmar | No amount of badassery makes it a good idea. |
| 20:04.45 | Unkle | Didn't anyone see "The Increibles"? NO CAPES! |
| 20:05.05 | Unkle | "The Incredibles" even. |
| 20:06.56 | mikma | unkle: yeah, NO CAPES! |
| 20:08.21 | Jamash | Isadora Duncan was killed by a scarf |
| 20:09.33 | Jamash | so yeah, wearing a cape while riding a motorcycle sounds like a way to get yourself killed in a messy and embarassing manner when your rear tire grabs the cape and hauls you under |
| 20:10.13 | Unkle | Or aerodynamic drag at speed whips you off the bike. |
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| 20:32.45 | nevcairiel | wee new beta build incoming, hopefully this time crash free |
| 20:32.57 | Gnarfoz | 64b client hasn't worked for me for months now |
| 20:32.58 | Gnarfoz | :F |
| 20:33.08 | nevcairiel | that never was a problem here |
| 20:33.13 | nevcairiel | both crashed equally |
| 20:33.14 | Gnarfoz | anyone have an idea why curl would be able to resolve a hostname (to something that makes no sense), while 'host' doesn't? makes no sense to me |
| 20:33.38 | Gnarfoz | it shouldn't resolve at all, but curl gives me what seems to be a domain grabber placeholder page |
| 20:33.56 | nevcairiel | maybe curl has that built in |
| 20:33.59 | nevcairiel | you got spyware curl! |
| 20:33.59 | Gnarfoz | haha |
| 20:34.10 | Gnarfoz | not entirely impossible, but unlikely |
| 20:34.34 | Gnarfoz | basically, the only thing I can fathon would be Hetzner's DNS servers |
| 20:35.34 | Stanzilla | hugs Gnarfoz |
| 20:35.39 | nevcairiel | if thats what your resolv.conf points to |
| 20:35.44 | Gnarfoz | it is |
| 20:35.56 | Gnarfoz | but 'dig' and 'host' both use that too, and they don't show an A record |
| 20:36.09 | nevcairiel | such fallsback dont use real records |
| 20:36.13 | nevcairiel | fallbacks* |
| 20:36.22 | Gnarfoz | fallbacks? |
| 20:36.24 | Gnarfoz | what fallbacks |
| 20:36.49 | Gnarfoz | you mean you think there's a wildcard record? |
| 20:36.58 | Gnarfoz | (that wouldn't make sense :D) |
| 20:36.59 | nevcairiel | nah, it works differently |
| 20:37.10 | Gnarfoz | I'm not even sure what you mean by "it" at this point |
| 20:37.19 | Dagmar | Gnarfoz: Sounds like your ISP is using OpenDNS or something... or is just flat out VIOLATING RFC (and fucking baby jesus in the eyes) |
| 20:37.39 | nevcairiel | some dns providers just send you to their own spam search page or something when you hit an unknown domain |
| 20:37.54 | nevcairiel | but you can actually detect that, and dig and host may be smart enough |
| 20:37.54 | Gnarfoz | of course, but this is not an isp :p |
| 20:37.55 | Dagmar | Ther'es a few ISPs that have gotten the bright idea that by returning an A record of a placeholder for domains that don't exist, they can "help the user" by collecting a little ad money on the side |
| 20:38.54 | Gnarfoz | name on the site is "Parkingcrew" |
| 20:38.58 | Gnarfoz | so, wtf. |
| 20:39.08 | Dagmar | Either that or the zone is broken in some horrible way like someone left off a trailing dot on a CNAME entry |
| 20:39.25 | Dagmar | If we knew the hostname it would be easier to trace |
| 20:39.27 | Gnarfoz | doubtful, then it'd be broken for everyone, not just my server |
| 20:39.43 | nevcairiel | at some point, the main dns servers for .com and .net actually provided such crappy redirects, and everyone patched their dns server to ignore those phony entrys =p |
| 20:39.51 | Dagmar | DNS hijacker malware maybe |
| 20:39.51 | Gnarfoz | go ahead: curl -I http://staging.ww1.book-control.com |
| 20:39.59 | Gnarfoz | dns hijacker malware on my debian server? |
| 20:40.24 | Gnarfoz | I'll just tcpdump this shit now |
| 20:40.43 | Gnarfoz | something's going terribly wrong on my (my server's) end, I bet |
| 20:40.44 | Dagmar | Looks like com-domain.com holds auth on the book-control zone |
| 20:40.47 | nevcairiel | curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'staging.ww1.book-control.com' |
| 20:40.50 | Dagmar | ...and they're not giving A records. |
| 20:40.53 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: that's how it should like |
| 20:40.57 | Gnarfoz | *look |
| 20:41.01 | Dagmar | Something's hijacking your query |
| 20:41.05 | nevcairiel | technically this is also from a hetzner server |
| 20:41.05 | Gnarfoz | yeah, must be |
| 20:41.11 | nevcairiel | but i'm using googles dns, and not theirs |
| 20:41.11 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: that's good to know |
| 20:41.14 | Gnarfoz | ah. |
| 20:41.15 | Gnarfoz | meh :) |
| 20:41.28 | Gnarfoz | well, host and dig both also return no A record for me, using Hetzner's servers |
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| 20:41.36 | Dagmar | It flat out doesn't resolve here at all |
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| 20:41.40 | Gnarfoz | but curl, wget and elinks show that weird page |
| 20:41.45 | Dagmar | Dig bypasses /etc/hosts tho, curl doesn't. |
| 20:41.47 | pompy | oh right the blizzard earnings call today.. ouch |
| 20:41.48 | nevcairiel | all i get is a SOA section |
| 20:41.49 | Gnarfoz | Dagmar: yeah, as it should, so it's something local |
| 20:41.52 | pompy | http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2872-WoW-Loses-1-1-Million-Subscibers-Down-to-9-1-Million-WoW-Loses-1-1-Million-Subscibers-Down-to-9-1-Million |
| 20:41.53 | Dagmar | Prolly got something in /etc/hosts |
| 20:42.05 | Gnarfoz | nah, that's what I checked when I was still at work today when I noticed this |
| 20:42.29 | Gnarfoz | well, tcpdump it is |
| 20:42.31 | Dagmar | http://newsflash.com/CMS-systems-make-shitty-overlong-URLs-for-no-reason-whatsoever-and-should-be-murdered-in-their-sleep |
| 20:42.43 | Gnarfoz | hahaha nice meta |
| 20:43.02 | Dagmar | gnarfoz: The only thing that could be making the difference are non-DNS resolvers, which would be /etc/hosts, or some bloke having a merry time with mDNS |
| 20:43.19 | Gnarfoz | Dagmar: I *should* be in my own broadcast domain, but you never know... |
| 20:43.29 | Gnarfoz | I should stop chatting and start dumping :P |
| 20:43.38 | Dagmar | Probably |
| 20:43.52 | Dagmar | I'd check /etc/hosts (assuming it's a nix machine of some kind) |
| 20:44.02 | nevcairiel | even windows has /etc/hosts |
| 20:44.05 | Dagmar | ...and hten maybe /etc/nsswitch.conf, which acutally controls that |
| 20:44.11 | Gnarfoz | like I said, I already did that this afternoon (and once again now just for sanity) |
| 20:44.17 | nevcairiel | its just hidden in c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts :P |
| 20:44.18 | Dagmar | If mDNS is in the picture, it'll show in nsswitch.conf |
| 20:44.24 | Gnarfoz | 'files dns' (also fine) |
| 20:44.32 | Dagmar | Fucking aliens |
| 20:44.46 | Dagmar | transdimensional greys stealing your ad clicks |
| 20:44.49 | nevcairiel | what does ping try to do? |
| 20:44.57 | nevcairiel | use the phony ip or fail? |
| 20:45.06 | Dagmar | ping will use the system resolver, which would mean /etc/hosts, then DNS |
| 20:45.06 | Gnarfoz | let me check |
| 20:45.20 | Gnarfoz | pings the phony ip |
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| 20:46.33 | Esamynn|work | programs that don't use the system dns resolver are pretty rare, afaik (I've never seen one) |
| 20:46.43 | nevcairiel | dig and host directly ask dns |
| 20:46.58 | nevcairiel | but then, they are in bind-utils or whatever its called |
| 20:47.04 | nevcairiel | so dns utils ;) |
| 20:47.09 | Esamynn|work | dns tools being the exception |
| 20:47.44 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: maybe your nscd somehow cached that wrong info? |
| 20:47.55 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: without using '@1.2.3.4', dig will ask the first dns server in /etc/hosts btw, as will 'host' |
| 20:48.05 | nevcairiel | try "nscd -i hosts" |
| 20:48.10 | Gnarfoz | no nscd |
| 20:48.28 | nevcairiel | oh well |
| 20:48.29 | Gnarfoz | I'm not running my own resolver or server |
| 20:48.38 | Gnarfoz | and... tcpdump says it's actually Hetzner's fault |
| 20:48.39 | Gnarfoz | wtf |
| 20:48.40 | nevcairiel | nscd is just a dns cache |
| 20:48.49 | nevcairiel | well, caches other things too |
| 20:49.19 | Gnarfoz | http://pastebin.com/FYQYT0hC |
| 20:49.57 | Gnarfoz | it answers with NXDOMAIN first, but then decides to answer with A later on?! |
| 20:50.01 | Gnarfoz | what the shit is this :P |
| 20:50.04 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 20:50.09 | nevcairiel | look closer |
| 20:50.17 | nevcairiel | A? staging.ww1.book-control.com.de. (49) |
| 20:50.20 | nevcairiel | it added a .de :P |
| 20:50.28 | Gnarfoz | huh |
| 20:50.34 | Gnarfoz | nice/scary/weird |
| 20:50.37 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: can you try nameserver 213.133.98.98 |
| 20:50.38 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 20:50.42 | Dagmar | Interesting... So Valve has ported L4D2 to Linux? Cool. |
| 20:50.44 | Gnarfoz | whoops, copied the linefeed |
| 20:50.49 | nevcairiel | .de is probably your lookup domain in resolv.conf |
| 20:51.03 | Gnarfoz | actually, there isn't one set |
| 20:51.11 | Gnarfoz | which means... I'll have to find out what that defaults to |
| 20:51.16 | Gnarfoz | probably .de |
| 20:51.20 | Gnarfoz | since the hostname is... geektour.de |
| 20:51.22 | Gnarfoz | blerhg |
| 20:51.36 | Gnarfoz | so I should unset that, I guess? |
| 20:52.05 | Gnarfoz | or set it to geektour.de, more like |
| 20:52.25 | nevcairiel | If no domain entry is present, the domain is determined from the local hostname returned by gethostname(2); the domain part is taken to be everything after the first '.'. Finally, if the hostname does not contain a domain part, the root domain is assumed. |
| 20:52.32 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I'm reading that man file, too :D |
| 20:52.43 | nevcairiel | i wonder if you can just set it to empty |
| 20:52.51 | nevcairiel | but luckily my server has a 3 part name |
| 20:52.58 | nevcairiel | so the domain would never resolv to anything |
| 20:53.03 | Dagmar | host gives you screwballs responses like that when there's no NS records along with hte reply |
| 20:53.04 | nevcairiel | because my domain has no wildcard |
| 20:53.36 | Dagmar | It tries to tell you stuff about hte nameserver that's authoritative for the lookup it just did. If that NS record is crap, it'll give you an answer and an error both. |
| 20:54.43 | Dagmar | Probably having just ".de" in the search path isn't such a good idea |
| 20:55.43 | Dagmar | ...unless your nominal network scope is "Germany" |
| 20:55.44 | Gnarfoz | I currently have no 'domain' entry in my hosts file, trying to figure out what I should set (might not even be 'domain' at all. might be 'options ndot:0' or 'search <something>' |
| 20:55.56 | Dagmar | It would be "search .de" |
| 20:56.09 | Gnarfoz | but my search scope should not be .de? :D |
| 20:56.14 | Dagmar | If it's unset, something might be using the FQDN of the hostname to try to determine it |
| 20:56.29 | Dagmar | Not unless you intend to generally type 'heisen' in your browser and get 'heisen.de' |
| 20:56.47 | Gnarfoz | well, as the part nev quoted says - if nothing is set, it will strip the second level from my hostname and try the domain under the remaining top level |
| 20:56.54 | Dagmar | Here that would be like having the resolver assume everything might need a ".edu" on the end instead of "vanderbilt.edu" |
| 20:57.00 | Gnarfoz | i.e. geektour.de -> .de -> staging.ww1.book-control.com.de |
| 20:57.15 | Gnarfoz | but... shouldn't it realize .com is a TLD?! |
| 20:57.15 | Dagmar | Yeah so set the search path explicitly to maybe make it stop doing that |
| 20:57.23 | Gnarfoz | and why have I never experienced this problem before |
| 20:57.31 | Gnarfoz | Dagmar: but to what?! :\ |
| 20:57.34 | Dagmar | It's a second level domain from the way it sees it |
| 20:57.42 | Dagmar | It's .com.(root) |
| 20:57.50 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 20:57.52 | Gnarfoz | of course it is |
| 20:58.17 | Gnarfoz | that's why using curl -I http://staging.ww1.book-control.com. results in an error, as it should |
| 20:58.30 | nevcairiel | .com.de is even valid, some people tryng to sell you german company addresses :p |
| 20:58.31 | Dagmar | This doesn't usually come up because _seldom_ does someone ever set their server's hostname to it's domain name. |
| 20:58.42 | Dagmar | Those two things are not generally equivalent. |
| 20:58.49 | Gnarfoz | that seldom is a bigass overstatement |
| 20:58.56 | Gnarfoz | (the second one is true, of course) |
| 20:59.14 | Dagmar | Most people would set the hostname to 'www.book-control.com' and the server's name being 'www'. |
| 20:59.52 | Dagmar | ...so breaking the "hostname" which is 'book-control.com' down by lopping one argument off it winds up with ".com" |
| 20:59.56 | Gnarfoz | I'm kind of leery to just strip the .de from my hostname, I'd wager that'd break something :D |
| 21:00.05 | Dagmar | You don't need to do that |
| 21:00.20 | nevcairiel | just set the search domain to geektour.de and be done with it :P |
| 21:00.31 | Dagmar | You actually need to _add_ the hostname to the FQDN of what the box thinks of as it's hostname |
| 21:00.33 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: wildcard record exists, sadly |
| 21:00.54 | Gnarfoz | Dagmar: err? geektour.de.geektour? |
| 21:00.55 | Gnarfoz | what :D |
| 21:01.00 | Gnarfoz | sorry, now you're just confusing me |
| 21:01.20 | Dagmar | hostname -f minus hostname -a is supposed to be a domain. |
| 21:01.29 | Dagmar | Heck you could change it to "host.geektour.de" |
| 21:01.38 | Dagmar | ...but "geektour.de" is a domain name, not a hostname. |
| 21:01.56 | Gnarfoz | it should be able to be both, without shit like this happening |
| 21:02.08 | Dagmar | Sure, it can handle queries for the root of the zone just fine, but technically that's only the name of hte domain, not hte hostname. |
| 21:02.38 | Dagmar | hostname -f should say something with three arguments and I have dire feelings about what hostname -a might be returning |
| 21:02.55 | Dagmar | You could name it 'batman.geektour.de' |
| 21:03.06 | Dagmar | ...have the /etc/motd say "I'm Batman." |
| 21:03.41 | Gnarfoz | of course ;p |
| 21:03.56 | Torhal|work | "I'm the goddamn Batman." |
| 21:04.59 | Dagmar | Not many people have to stumble across this more than once (the difference between a vanity domain name used as a hostname, and an actual hostname) or it would probably get more explicit mention in networking classes |
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| 21:26.26 | Gnarfoz | next up: where the hell are these blocks coming from?! they weren't there the last time I had the mixer open. :| http://i.imgur.com/d6Px3.png |
| 21:26.39 | Gnarfoz | someone's in my box, stealing my fontz? |
| 21:26.54 | neutronimity | I can't wait for A Memory of Light |
| 21:34.47 | Dagmar | Gnarfoz: Nah, it's just Windows 7 failing at strings |
| 21:34.59 | Dagmar | It started that crap here recently |
| 21:35.14 | Dagmar | We should just kill people who use null-terminated strings. |
| 21:35.24 | Dagmar | Kill early and kill often. |
| 21:36.26 | Dagmar | neutronimity: will they actually *get somewhere* is the real question |
| 21:36.31 | Kaylin | can we kill CR-LF while we're at it? /beats IRC with a rake |
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| 21:38.20 | Gnarfoz | surprise surprise, my mail server stopped working! :P |
| 21:38.42 | Kaylin | it's just grumpy, try saying HELO to it again. |
| 21:38.45 | Gnarfoz | (actually, my pop3/imap server, I tried postfix before rebooting) |
| 21:38.55 | Kaylin | oic |
| 21:39.15 | Gnarfoz | hm, actually, it seems it just wasnt started, yet |
| 21:40.16 | Esamynn|work | it's sleepy, you woke it up too early |
| 21:42.32 | Gnarfoz | hrm, restarting my mta made it pick up the ipv6 addresses I added in the mean time, though, now I'm mailing over v6, wtf |
| 21:42.35 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:46.03 | neutronimity | Dagmar, hope so, and am afraid of it at the same time |
| 21:46.32 | neutronimity | On one hand, looking forward to how everything is going, and reading it, and on the other hand, afraid of the end - it ending |
| 21:46.36 | neutronimity | Then no more is coming |
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| 22:13.02 | Adys | Arrowmaster: best DE for a first generation eee? (7 inch screen) |
| 22:13.17 | arton | http://imgur.com/whVlY |
| 22:13.28 | arton | hardy har |
| 22:13.46 | Arrowmaster | Adys: NFC, although isnt unity kinda a tablet ui? |
| 22:14.01 | Adys | it is, but i dont have a touchscreen |
| 22:14.24 | Adys | i remember trying xubuntu back when i got this eee but it was still pretty fucked |
| 22:16.56 | Adys | Can anyone do a quick test for me please? |
| 22:17.21 | Adys | i need someone to register on a specific website and tell me if they can register/login fine, in pm |
| 22:31.57 | zenzelezz | porn? |
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| 22:44.24 | Adys | zenzelezz: no |
| 22:46.32 | Adys | zenzelezz: can you? |
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| 22:58.37 | Stanzilla | fk.e |
| 22:58.45 | Stanzilla | Fisker: like btw |
| 22:58.47 | Stanzilla | *leak |
| 22:58.47 | Stanzilla | damnit |
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| 23:58.27 | neutronimity | i let loose a hoarse chuckle when i saw steamerrorreporter.exe pop up in the list of online processes after I closed steam |
| 23:59.20 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 23:59.44 | neutronimity | (i can't explain how or why) |
| 23:59.56 | Gnarfoz | it's not like other programs don't have error reporting tools, too? |
