| 00:01.30 | *** join/#wowuidev Tuller (~tuller@c-76-21-187-154.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 00:36.51 | *** join/#wowuidev Kodiack (~Colton@96-42-240-206.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) |
| 00:45.17 | *** join/#wowuidev rtharper (~tomh@unaffiliated/sioraiocht) |
| 00:46.59 | *** join/#wowuidev Brainscrewer (Brain@15.sub226.ddfr.nl) |
| 00:47.17 | Brainscrewer | anyone alive here? :> |
| 00:47.24 | mckenziemc | no |
| 00:47.30 | mckenziemc | well |
| 00:47.34 | mckenziemc | kills Torhal. |
| 00:47.36 | mckenziemc | not anymore |
| 00:47.40 | Brainscrewer | xD |
| 00:47.41 | Adys | I'm still alive bitch |
| 00:48.03 | Brainscrewer | okay so short question, im modifying an existing addon |
| 00:48.19 | Adys | don't, you'll break it |
| 00:48.26 | Brainscrewer | true |
| 00:48.31 | Brainscrewer | but i managed to solve it :P |
| 00:48.39 | Adys | well what do you need us for then? |
| 00:48.50 | Brainscrewer | because you have to explain me something :D |
| 00:48.58 | Brainscrewer | so i can tinker along |
| 00:49.08 | Adys | twenty bucks |
| 00:49.26 | Iriel | puts a bag over adys' head |
| 00:49.39 | Adys | hey, just as i was about to get my money |
| 00:49.46 | Brainscrewer | ....or not :P |
| 00:50.05 | Brainscrewer | dont mess with dutchies, they are the greediest ppl ever |
| 00:50.29 | Adys | I'm french and respectfully disagree |
| 00:50.57 | Adys | do ask your question though, otherwise iriel is going to end up executing me |
| 00:51.07 | Adys | and, get this, I'm not even +x. |
| 00:51.19 | Thunder_Child | I think Iriel will do it regardless |
| 00:51.21 | Arrowmaster | http://i.imgur.com/kWjkY.jpg |
| 00:51.46 | Adys | Arrowmaster: is that train simulator |
| 00:52.26 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 00:52.30 | Gnarfoz | gw2 seems a bit... overwhelming :o |
| 00:52.32 | Brainscrewer | ive got the following method |
| 00:52.35 | Brainscrewer | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1104226/ |
| 00:52.49 | Adys | Arrowmaster: you bought it too huh. |
| 00:53.00 | Brainscrewer | and ive made a custom loca in dutch, but the theVote var is still in english |
| 00:53.00 | Arrowmaster | no i didnt |
| 00:53.06 | Arrowmaster | i found that img on reddit |
| 00:53.11 | Brainscrewer | and i have no idea how i can change that :P |
| 00:53.35 | Brainscrewer | it gives me FOR and AGAINST in English |
| 00:53.49 | Iriel | Gnarfoz: indeed |
| 00:54.09 | Adys | Brainscrewer: not sure what you mean. what do you use for translations? |
| 00:54.17 | Iriel | Gnarfoz: it's still very GuildWarsy tho -- which was a bit surprising since according to the ranting on every other MMO's recent betas it was going to be the greatest game in the whole universe ever |
| 00:54.29 | Arrowmaster | haha the reddit has links to youtube videos of people doing it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Cahs9lJI4Q the inital D music just makes it so great |
| 00:54.38 | Brainscrewer | ive got a localization.nlNL.lua file |
| 00:54.47 | Gnarfoz | Iriel: I never played Guild Wars, I think this is part of my troubles |
| 00:55.07 | Iriel | Gnarfoz: i'm not sure you've missed much, unless the "limited usable skills" thing is new to you |
| 00:55.27 | Iriel | GW2 is still a new beast, it took me about 5 levels before I had /some/ clue, and even there i'm not sure I've figured it all out |
| 00:55.28 | Arrowmaster | i really need to read this manga sometime |
| 00:55.34 | Brainscrewer | im just wondering IF i can change the theVote var into dutch someway |
| 00:55.40 | Adys | Arrowmaster: looks.. completely legit |
| 00:56.05 | Gnarfoz | Iriel: mostly, my character just feels utterly weak, most of the time |
| 00:56.15 | Arrowmaster | Adys, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj87brf-v8g&feature=related |
| 00:56.15 | Iriel | Gnarfoz: what "class"? |
| 00:56.24 | Iriel | Brainscrewer: Where do you EXPECT localization to occur? |
| 00:56.29 | Adys | Brainscrewer: what is it you don't understand? do you have an example of translated bits of your app? |
| 00:56.42 | Iriel | Brainscrewer: Use of "None" on line 5 makes me believe that the variable vote is canonical, not localized |
| 00:56.50 | Adys | Arrowmaster: lol |
| 00:56.50 | Gnarfoz | Iriel: Elementalist |
| 00:57.21 | Iriel | Hm, ive mostly been playing ranger - changing weapons helped quite a bit (new set of skils), magic may be entirely different. |
| 00:57.42 | Iriel | You are /moving/ during the fight right (I dont think GW requires you to stand still do do magic) |
| 01:00.07 | Brainscrewer | localization is almost perfect but i would also like to have it in "..string.upper(theVote).." |
| 01:00.17 | Brainscrewer | but i dont know when theVote is FOR or AGAINST |
| 01:00.56 | Amarande | Iriel: you do have to stand still to do magic, but most casting times are much, much shorter than in WoW |
| 01:01.24 | Iriel | Brainscrewer: What's the variable name for your localized FOR/AGAINST? |
| 01:01.30 | Amarande | A substantial percentage of GW1 spells, at least, have casting times in the 0.25 to 1.0 second range |
| 01:01.31 | Brainscrewer | i could just do if theVote == FOR then dutchVote = voor |
| 01:01.40 | Adys | don't, please |
| 01:01.56 | Brainscrewer | it isnt localized as far as i know |
| 01:01.59 | Amarande | there are not many instant spells, but most also aren't as long in cast time as typical bread-and-butter WoW spells |
| 01:02.18 | Adys | Brainscrewer: whats entry[1] ? |
| 01:02.31 | Brainscrewer | thats the person thats being voted against |
| 01:03.08 | Brainscrewer | 'you want to vote ' <For/against> entry[1] |
| 01:03.46 | Adys | Brainscrewer: ok yeah i just got the logic of this |
| 01:04.35 | Brainscrewer | this whole addon is kind of weird |
| 01:04.45 | Adys | Brainscrewer: since the code actually uses the vote variable as a string, what you'll want to do with minimum effort |
| 01:04.52 | Adys | is localize it on theVote = vote; |
| 01:05.17 | Adys | theVote = _[vote]; |
| 01:05.22 | Adys | or whatever you use for translations |
| 01:06.09 | Brainscrewer | yes, but in theVote = vote you still dont know if its for or against |
| 01:06.26 | Adys | you dont have to |
| 01:07.04 | Adys | im guessing "vote" is a string "None", "For" or "Against" |
| 01:07.21 | Brainscrewer | probably yes |
| 01:07.32 | Adys | you localize those and call the localization table on the assignment to theVote |
| 01:09.06 | Gnarfoz | Iriel: yeah, lots of dodging, kiting... it's gotten better now that I'm level... 10 or 11 ^^ |
| 01:09.53 | Adys | jesus, have i really stopped playing this long |
| 01:10.03 | Adys | i wanted to check how many top-level players were online on the server |
| 01:10.07 | Adys | so i did /who 60 |
| 01:10.23 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 01:11.01 | Gnarfoz | you actually went back in time |
| 01:11.46 | zenzelezz | everyone knows true hardcore players cap their XP at 60 |
| 01:12.06 | Iriel | Gnarfoz: I hit 10 a little bit ago |
| 01:27.24 | Torhal | me defenestrates mckenziemc. |
| 01:27.29 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:27.54 | mckenziemc | increases unhappiness generated by citizens in all of Torhal's cities by 150% |
| 01:28.22 | Torhal | DENOUNCES mckenziemc. |
| 01:28.51 | mckenziemc | You'll pay for this in time. |
| 01:29.37 | pompy | noone can stop mr Torhal |
| 01:35.15 | mckenziemc | of course my great general spawns in the farthest city from my enemy : / |
| 01:49.50 | *** join/#wowuidev zenzelezz (~zenzelezz@cm-84.212.107.146.getinternet.no) |
| 02:09.58 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraps (~chatzilla@pool-173-62-93-157.pghkny.east.verizon.net) |
| 02:19.24 | *** join/#wowuidev _Caleb| (~caleb@dsl540244E8.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 02:25.44 | kd3 | wtf am I doing watching a video of some guy laying cinderblocks? |
| 02:26.58 | karl_w_w | does he turn you on? |
| 02:27.07 | kd3 | http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/wxjo4/laying_cinder_blocks_like_a_god_damned_pro_this/ |
| 02:27.22 | kd3 | it made the front page, only reason I saw it at all |
| 02:27.39 | karl_w_w | whoo command & conquer flash sale |
| 02:28.40 | karl_w_w | trouble is i have 3, and i heard 4 and red alert 3 are not that great |
| 02:29.52 | Kaylin | http://imgur.com/gallery/VaJ9t |
| 02:29.56 | karl_w_w | meh I'll leave it |
| 02:30.29 | karl_w_w | lol spoiler alert |
| 02:30.51 | Kaylin | :P |
| 02:32.36 | mckenziemc | "Thank you for downloading Malware..." |
| 02:32.48 | mckenziemc | truncated tab title ftw |
| 02:39.03 | Iriel | Why is the C&C flash sale 3 centsmore than the individual prices? |
| 02:40.52 | karl_w_w | I'm getting 29.95 total individual price |
| 02:43.12 | Iriel | I get "Individual: $27.45" "Bundle: $27.48" |
| 02:46.38 | karl_w_w | you must be adding a 4.99 where it's 7.49 |
| 02:47.29 | karl_w_w | unless you're saying that's the total individual price listed on steam, which it isn't for me |
| 02:48.02 | Iriel | I am saying that |
| 02:48.11 | Iriel | it's what my screen says (and what my friend's screen says) |
| 02:48.17 | Amarande | heh, I'm still pondering Civ5 |
| 02:48.20 | Amarande | speaking of which |
| 02:48.29 | Amarande | are the computer countries still cheating bastards in that edition of the series? |
| 02:48.52 | Amarande | apparently, those games always are set up so that AI countries ally against the player even when the game is ostensibly supposed to be a free for all competition |
| 02:51.35 | pompy | Iriel: http://store.steampowered.com/sub/4506/ just like this one |
| 02:52.02 | karl_w_w | haha |
| 02:52.20 | dolby | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0 |
| 02:53.26 | karl_w_w | http://i47.tinypic.com/dgj4hv.png |
| 02:53.33 | karl_w_w | ^ c&c for me |
| 02:57.55 | pompy | dolby: oh man, he got hyuna to do the song with him. |
| 02:58.02 | pompy | or be in the video at least |
| 03:02.33 | pompy | karl_w_w: why no AUD? |
| 03:03.43 | Iriel | karl_w_w: It's C&C: Red Alert 3 that's different for me, it's $19.95 -> $4.99 |
| 03:04.27 | Iriel | Heh, they've fixed it now |
| 03:04.48 | *** join/#wowuidev pompy1 (~Mike@68.36.135.0) |
| 03:05.12 | pompy1 | ugh |
| 03:07.04 | mckenziemc | Amarande: anything to get you away from IRC is A Good Thing |
| 03:09.42 | karl_w_w | dunno pompy1 |
| 03:17.06 | karl_w_w | http://www.catchoftheday.com.au/smallfish_info.php?products_id=49136 hot |
| 03:20.05 | *** join/#wowuidev _Caleb| (~caleb@dsl54029D5E.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 03:23.01 | karl_w_w | http://www.catchoftheday.com.au/smallfish_info.php?products_id=50130 seems like a good deal |
| 03:32.00 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (~Kaydeethr@wowwiki/Kaydeethree) |
| 03:32.56 | karl_w_w | should i be buying universe sandbox? |
| 03:34.13 | Thunder_Child | thats subjective |
| 03:45.22 | *** join/#wowuidev randomDude (~randomDud@ppp241-218.static.internode.on.net) |
| 03:50.14 | pompy1 | yeah |
| 03:55.14 | Amarande | wow, apparently with ssd's you're also recommended to spend the extra 200 bucks to get Windows Ultimate :| |
| 03:55.23 | Amarande | maybe I'll just stick with spinning platters :P |
| 03:58.57 | karl_w_w | what is windows ultimate and according to who |
| 03:59.24 | Amarande | karl: according to these articles I'm reading about the reliability and lifespan of SSD |
| 03:59.41 | Amarande | as for why you need Ultimate on a Windows machine with an SSD, that would be because of the combination of three factors |
| 03:59.55 | Amarande | 1) SSDs have a much higher failure rate during warranty period than traditional hard drives |
| 04:00.55 | Amarande | 2) Warranty repair facilities for SSD are apparently pretty bad at actually remembering to wipe the data from drives before selling the refurbished units, one tale is from a business saying how they got a certain "ScottW"'s refurbished SSD, which still had all his docs, email, and VMs on it plain as day |
| 04:01.29 | Amarande | 3) thus, you pretty much need to (unless you're willing to forgo warranty repair on a device that's more likely than traditional drives to need it) have drive encryption, and BitLocker only comes with Ultimate editions of Windows |
| 04:01.56 | Amarande | Oh, yeah. And said drive encryption will kill your drive even faster than otherwise. |
| 04:02.47 | karl_w_w | sounds like bullshit |
| 04:04.09 | Amarande | It sounds kind of like luxury sports cars. You pay a premium *and* you get to spend more time worrying and fussing over it so you don't have to pay even more of a premium. :P |
| 04:05.30 | Amarande | Never mind that on the reliability front, let's put it this way, you can get two terabyte spinning platter drives plus two more to create a mirrored RAID for extra peace of mind, and probably spend less money than a 250GB or so SSD will cost. |
| 04:05.48 | Amarande | why have these things taken off so much in popularity, exactly? |
| 04:06.26 | Amarande | (with the main exception maybe of corporate dev houses where saved compile time is so vital as to make the cost of having to replace even relatively expensive drives regularly a drop in the ocean by comparison) |
| 04:11.08 | karl_w_w | who the hell needs a 250gb ssd? |
| 04:11.10 | Iriel | Or you dont repair them, and destroy them on failure - like most folks do with hard drives who care |
| 04:15.39 | Amarande | Iriel: except hard drives have a much greater likelihood of lasting past the warranty period |
| 04:15.49 | Torhal | Holy shit five hours of SSD talk. |
| 04:15.56 | pompy1 | iknorite |
| 04:16.37 | Amarande | The trouble with SSD is that not too infrequently, apparently, the drive requires care during the warranty period |
| 04:17.03 | Amarande | and I don't think warranty centres usually like "well, I'd like a warranty replacement but I snapped my drive in half to protect against identity theft ..." |
| 04:18.28 | Amarande | karl: well it might be nice to think that someday we can replace magnetic hard drives altogether |
| 04:19.03 | Amarande | much faster access times, no worries about head crashes, etc. |
| 04:19.31 | Amarande | indeed, if you could do away with magnetic hard drives, your computer would have no actively moving parts at all, with the exception of fans and whenever you actively have a disc in the optical drive |
| 04:24.21 | Iriel | Amarande: if you're a corporation large enough to be sufficient paranoid, then you can probably afford to write off a couple of failed drives. |
| 04:24.54 | Iriel | Presumably also you'd be smart enough to buy the smallest (cheapest) drives necessary to get the job done also, to reduce the cost. |
| 04:27.44 | Amarande | OTOH, if you're an individual user, you probably (in today's economy, as they like to say) are tight-belted enough that you want to take advantage of the warranty if a problem comes up. Unfortunately, if you're an individual user, you probably also have lots of personal information on your drive. |
| 04:28.30 | Amarande | Which means, if (as is likely) ScottW's case isn't a one off, if you do need to take advantage of the warranty, there's a good chance that your personal information will be resold intact on the drive when it becomes a refurbished unit. |
| 04:29.09 | Amarande | (I wonder if savvy identity thieves actually invest a fair amount of their stolen credit into purchasing used or refurbished drives with exactly the goal of snagging more info off of them. I wouldn't be surprised.) |
| 04:34.36 | p3lim | Anyone know of a easy-to-get-to quest that I can use to test the possess state that isn't considered a vehicle? |
| 04:35.03 | p3lim | As in, does not trigger the vehicle ui, just swaps the buttons/page on the bar |
| 04:35.50 | mckenziemc | Amarande: your keyboard has moving parts. they need a rest. |
| 04:36.15 | p3lim | Mental Training: Speaking the Truth to Power is one, but it is at the end of the whole hyjal chain |
| 04:38.18 | Amarande | p3lim: would logging onto a priest and using MC work? |
| 04:38.33 | p3lim | Hm, perhaps |
| 04:40.56 | p3lim | Did they remove mind control on beta? |
| 04:41.05 | Stanzilla | it's a talent now |
| 04:42.47 | p3lim | Thanks |
| 04:44.22 | p3lim | Sweet, it counts as possess |
| 05:39.24 | *** join/#wowuidev karl_w_w (~karl@124-148-122-175.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 05:40.46 | *** join/#wowuidev Caleb| (~caleb@dsl54029D5E.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 05:40.46 | *** join/#wowuidev rapmoc (rapmoc@it-funzocker.com) |
| 05:40.46 | *** join/#wowuidev Cairenn|afk (~Owner@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn) |
| 05:40.46 | *** join/#wowuidev Dewin (~Daniel@c-76-28-131-143.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 05:40.46 | *** join/#wowuidev Bibi (~Bibi@unaffiliated/bibi) |
| 05:40.46 | *** join/#wowuidev felipe` (~felipe@unaffiliated/felipe) |
| 05:40.46 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Cairenn|afk] by verne.freenode.net |
| 05:41.06 | *** join/#wowuidev pheredhel (~pheredhel@deep-water.de) |
| 05:41.06 | *** join/#wowuidev Vilkku (~vilkku@unaffiliated/vilkku) |
| 05:41.06 | *** join/#wowuidev haste (haste@zelda.ixo.no) |
| 05:41.06 | *** join/#wowuidev Aurorus (~Aurorus@unaffiliated/aurorus) |
| 05:41.06 | *** join/#wowuidev Olison (Olison@fukdruidsgrr.org) |
| 05:41.31 | *** join/#wowuidev randomDude (~randomDud@ppp241-218.static.internode.on.net) |
| 05:41.31 | *** join/#wowuidev dolby (~dolby-wow@MMOI/Administrator/pdpc.silver.dolby) |
| 05:41.31 | *** join/#wowuidev kagaro (~kagaro@cpe-069-134-173-126.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 05:41.31 | *** join/#wowuidev olafski (~olafski@53558C29.cm-6-6c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 05:41.31 | *** join/#wowuidev pantsninja (~Syrae@c-69-181-66-52.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 05:41.31 | *** join/#wowuidev ZorbaTHut (tocohl@maximilian.pavlovian.net) |
| 05:41.31 | *** join/#wowuidev ShadniX (shadow1st@b045.apm.etc.tu-bs.de) |
| 05:41.31 | *** join/#wowuidev KarlKFI (KarlKFI@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe93:14a2) |
| 05:41.31 | *** join/#wowuidev F16Gaming (F16Gaming@p6-691d-5e0c.10m.i.exo.me.uk) |
| 05:41.31 | *** join/#wowuidev breser (~breser@fornix.brain.org) |
| 05:41.31 | *** join/#wowuidev dist (dist@xen.ihme.org) |
| 05:41.31 | *** join/#wowuidev Shirik (~mpdelbuon@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik) |
| 05:41.31 | *** join/#wowuidev spode (dv11cbg@peppar.cs.umu.se) |
| 05:41.31 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+oo dolby Shirik] by verne.freenode.net |
| 05:41.45 | *** join/#wowuidev zenzelezz (~zenzelezz@cm-84.212.107.146.getinternet.no) |
| 05:41.45 | *** join/#wowuidev Torhal (~torhal@c-71-207-224-241.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 05:41.45 | *** join/#wowuidev mckenziemc (~Mark@69.224.70.199) |
| 05:41.45 | *** join/#wowuidev Dagmar (~dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar) |
| 05:41.45 | *** join/#wowuidev Antiarc (~Chris@ip68-99-252-201.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 05:41.45 | *** join/#wowuidev starlon (~starlon@melody.lyrical.net) |
| 05:41.46 | *** join/#wowuidev Droolio (~drool@host86-171-142-125.range86-171.btcentralplus.com) |
| 05:41.55 | *** join/#wowuidev zz_Cidan (~cidan@conspiracy/developer/Cidan) |
| 05:41.57 | *** join/#wowuidev p3lim (~p3lim@32.9.9.46.customer.cdi.no) |
| 05:42.06 | *** join/#wowuidev nebula169 (~nebula@c-75-72-138-186.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 05:42.06 | *** join/#wowuidev Torhal|work (~torhal_wo@67.58.77.206) |
| 05:42.06 | *** join/#wowuidev Wa (~wa@50.45.216.44) |
| 05:42.06 | *** join/#wowuidev nevcairiel (quassel@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/nevcairiel) |
| 05:42.06 | *** join/#wowuidev Mikk (quassel@helios.1f0.de) |
| 05:42.06 | *** join/#wowuidev |Jelly| (~|Jelly|@c-98-234-60-111.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 05:42.06 | *** join/#wowuidev A-KO (as@unaffiliated/a-ko) |
| 05:42.06 | *** join/#wowuidev [Wobin] (~quassel@124-149-191-53.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 05:42.06 | *** join/#wowuidev Ycarene (~Ycarene@2001:470:1f0e:b93::2) |
| 05:42.06 | *** join/#wowuidev [Ammo] (~wouter@connected.dnd.utwente.nl) |
| 05:42.06 | *** join/#wowuidev Fisker (~ballmer@developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk) |
| 05:42.06 | *** join/#wowuidev Humbedooh (~humbedooh@apache/committer/Humbedooh) |
| 05:42.06 | *** join/#wowuidev klipeto (klip@gollum.klapka.cz) |
| 05:42.06 | *** join/#wowuidev Gnarfoz (smallbrain@WoWUIDev/WowAce/Gnarfoz) |
| 05:42.06 | *** join/#wowuidev SeanK (~SeanK@50.46.103.35) |
| 05:42.06 | *** join/#wowuidev Shadowed (Shadowed@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe93:d16e) |
| 05:42.06 | *** join/#wowuidev chrippa (~chrippa@tanuki.se) |
| 05:42.06 | *** join/#wowuidev SNiLD (~snild@nurmijarvi.net) |
| 05:42.06 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shadowed] by verne.freenode.net |
| 05:42.36 | *** join/#wowuidev Arrowmaster (~arrow@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ResponsibleForEverythingAndNothing/Arrowmaster) |
| 05:42.37 | *** join/#wowuidev sylvanaar (~sylvanaar@pdpc/supporter/active/sylvanaar) |
| 05:42.37 | *** join/#wowuidev Funkeh` (~funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh) |
| 05:42.37 | *** join/#wowuidev cbreak (~cbreak@217-162-236-119.dynamic.hispeed.ch) |
| 05:42.37 | *** join/#wowuidev Archarodim (HydraIRC@lev92-4-88-164-134-95.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 05:42.37 | *** join/#wowuidev oscarucb (~oscarucb@cpe-204-210-241-64.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 05:42.37 | *** join/#wowuidev AcidWeb (quassel@vulturis.eu) |
| 05:42.38 | *** join/#wowuidev zz_Alram (~Alram@static.36.36.9.5.clients.your-server.de) |
| 05:42.38 | *** join/#wowuidev xyphoid (xiw@unaffiliated/xyphoid) |
| 05:42.38 | *** join/#wowuidev ajmitch (ajmitch@ubuntu/member/ajmitch) |
| 05:42.50 | Esamynn | weeeeeeee, netsplit! |
| 05:42.58 | *** join/#wowuidev Ingela (~Ingela@90-230-170-118-no35.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 05:42.58 | *** join/#wowuidev Liath_ (~Liath@mctnts12d058.nbnet.nb.ca) |
| 05:42.58 | *** join/#wowuidev nicoli_s (~nicoli_s@67.58.77.206) |
| 05:42.58 | *** join/#wowuidev pere__ (~peter@arch-vps.cloud.tilaa.nl) |
| 05:42.58 | *** join/#wowuidev durcyn (~durcyn@WoWUIDev/Durcyn) |
| 05:42.58 | *** join/#wowuidev oro_ (~Orofar@83.101.79.160) |
| 05:42.58 | *** join/#wowuidev kullervo (~kullervo@unaffiliated/ozguli) |
| 05:42.58 | *** join/#wowuidev ScytheBlade1 (~Death@about/pxe/ScytheBlade1) |
| 05:42.58 | *** join/#wowuidev cogwheel (~cogwheel@WoWUIDev/WoWProgramming/morlando/cogwheel) |
| 05:42.58 | *** join/#wowuidev phyber (phyber@irssi.co.uk) |
| 05:42.58 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v nicoli_s] by verne.freenode.net |
| 05:43.06 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (~Kaydeethr@wowwiki/Kaydeethree) |
| 05:43.06 | *** join/#wowuidev Gragagrogog (~blindpred@fw-carp.steadynet.cz) |
| 05:43.06 | *** join/#wowuidev Duman (~duman@ka.boom.net) |
| 05:43.06 | *** join/#wowuidev copystring (11794copy@server1.bouncer4you.de) |
| 05:43.06 | *** join/#wowuidev dubf (~quassel@ti0272a340-dhcp0006.bb.online.no) |
| 05:43.21 | *** join/#wowuidev tlund (~tlund@envy.nxs.se) |
| 05:43.21 | *** join/#wowuidev Grum (~grum@codebase2.xs4all.nl) |
| 05:43.31 | *** join/#wowuidev Adys (~adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 05:43.31 | *** join/#wowuidev Motig (~Motig@g90028.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 05:43.31 | *** join/#wowuidev SPt_Apollo (u3263@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-owcigekjcigkmxog) |
| 05:43.31 | *** join/#wowuidev NiLoni (nilon@unaffiliated/nilon) |
| 05:43.31 | *** join/#wowuidev batrick (~batrick@nmap/developer/batrick) |
| 05:43.31 | *** join/#wowuidev mitch0 (~mitch@drvolomdental.hu) |
| 05:43.31 | *** join/#wowuidev Corgan (~Corgan@corgasm.org) |
| 05:43.31 | *** join/#wowuidev jnwhiteh (~jnwhiteh@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire) |
| 05:43.31 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o jnwhiteh] by verne.freenode.net |
| 05:43.52 | *** join/#wowuidev Krapsy (~chatzilla@pool-173-62-93-157.pghkny.east.verizon.net) |
| 05:47.54 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraps (~chatzilla@pool-173-62-93-157.pghkny.east.verizon.net) |
| 05:49.02 | *** join/#wowuidev Jamash (~jamash@c-69-246-202-96.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 05:53.04 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraps_ipod (~rooms@pool-173-62-93-157.pghkny.east.verizon.net) |
| 05:58.10 | karl_w_w | I've never understood why businesses take their old website down for months so they can put up |
| 05:58.18 | karl_w_w | "new website coming soon" |
| 06:01.44 | *** join/#wowuidev the-golem (~Darrin@c-24-10-17-129.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 06:02.02 | Esamynn | what? you're crazy... "new website coming soon" is just awesome :P |
| 06:04.59 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraps (~chatzilla@pool-173-62-93-157.pghkny.east.verizon.net) |
| 06:06.22 | Kaylin | karl_w_w depends how bad the old website is, usually I am confused but sometimes I'm just like this needs to not exist. |
| 06:09.20 | karl_w_w | yeah it's basically misguided pride |
| 06:10.46 | karl_w_w | instead of saying "look our current website is pretty shite, we're making a new one" they say "look, our old website was so shite that we think you'll get a better impression of us if we have no website and we basically tell you that we're too useless to organise a new one quickly" |
| 06:11.54 | karl_w_w | or i guess there's a few cases where the website was complete outsourced |
| 06:16.08 | karl_w_w | is that bug where different parts of the game disagree on whether you're afk or not fixed in beta? |
| 06:16.29 | *** join/#wowuidev Trela (~Alexia@c-71-207-245-20.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 06:18.10 | *** join/#wowuidev eir (~eir@freenode/utility-bot/eir) |
| 06:30.45 | *** join/#wowuidev Yoshimo (~Miranda@p5B04CC55.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 06:44.52 | *** join/#wowuidev Joezilla (~chatzilla@host86-182-169-77.range86-182.btcentralplus.com) |
| 06:45.19 | *** join/#wowuidev Joezilla (~chatzilla@host86-182-169-77.range86-182.btcentralplus.com) |
| 06:46.31 | Yoshimo | p3lim : what is good about it being counted as possess? |
| 06:54.08 | Joezilla | Hi, I am trying to use auctioneer to auction items using appraiser however it says "no auctionable items", and when i run a market price check for one of these items ( /s ? [item] ) it says it has never seen it, even though i have run a scan and it is in the auction house. the only thing i have doe is /auc cleardata ALL, and then run a scan, would that be the problem? |
| 06:56.34 | karl_w_w | Joezilla: try #norganna |
| 06:56.44 | *** join/#wowuidev Monolit (~Strigoy@89.112.4.92.pppoe.eltel.net) |
| 06:57.14 | karl_w_w | or I guess you already did |
| 06:57.23 | Joezilla | karl_w_w: yeah :) |
| 06:57.42 | Joezilla | i think the scandata is broken i dont know why |
| 08:08.06 | *** join/#wowuidev Elkano (~elkano@client00384.vpn.uni-saarland.de) |
| 08:08.06 | *** join/#wowuidev Elkano (~elkano@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Elkano) |
| 08:27.51 | *** join/#wowuidev bluipodcow (~bluspacec@114-134-0-123.lightwire.co.nz) |
| 08:27.51 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v bluipodcow] by ChanServ |
| 08:28.22 | bluipodcow | Anyone got a ui extract for beta for download ? |
| 08:30.15 | AcidWeb | I can make one if you need. |
| 08:31.00 | AcidWeb | Only code or you need also art? |
| 08:32.45 | bluipodcow | Just code thanks :) |
| 08:33.54 | AcidWeb | bluipodcow: http://vulturis.eu/~pawelj/MoP.tar.gz |
| 08:34.06 | bluipodcow | Thanks :) |
| 08:40.49 | bluipodcow | Ok downloaded now :) |
| 08:51.56 | Gnarfoz | Mikk: http://i.imgur.com/UALPA.jpg ! |
| 08:55.07 | *** join/#wowuidev randomDude (~randomDud@ppp241-218.static.internode.on.net) |
| 08:56.00 | *** part/#wowuidev randomDude (~randomDud@ppp241-218.static.internode.on.net) |
| 09:11.14 | pompy1 | loll https://twitter.com/notch/status/226604081932812288 |
| 09:31.52 | Elkano | wow, they are sued for Mindcraft on Android (the d is not my typo, it's theirs...) |
| 09:36.36 | bluipodcow | Could they get it thrown out for referring to mind craft and not minecraft? |
| 09:40.28 | pompy1 | bluipodcow: mindcraft is their android game |
| 09:40.46 | pompy1 | :O |
| 09:40.51 | bluipodcow | Lol |
| 09:40.56 | bluipodcow | Anyways |
| 09:41.05 | bluipodcow | It r home time nows |
| 09:41.08 | pompy1 | u no funnie |
| 09:41.35 | bluipodcow | Might go out of range of de free wifi so........ |
| 09:54.33 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~chatzilla@cpc2-craw2-0-0-cust1299.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 09:54.33 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~chatzilla@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Dev/Brykrys) |
| 09:56.19 | *** join/#wowuidev pb_ee1 (pb_ee1@89-158-95-138.rev.dartybox.com) |
| 09:56.45 | nevcairiel | man the EU beta server is unstable today, been playing 2 hours and it went down twice already |
| 09:56.56 | nevcairiel | not even only world server down, the whole thing gone :p |
| 09:57.28 | *** join/#wowuidev rtharper (~tomh@host-92-27-202-68.static.as13285.net) |
| 09:57.29 | *** join/#wowuidev rtharper (~tomh@unaffiliated/sioraiocht) |
| 10:05.09 | *** join/#wowuidev brykryss (~chatzilla@cpc2-craw2-0-0-cust1299.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 10:11.33 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I get disconnected from GW2 all the time today, so meh |
| 10:43.07 | nevcairiel | i think it just crashed again |
| 10:43.21 | nevcairiel | oh well at least world server down |
| 10:43.56 | nevcairiel | somehow i thought we already were at a more stable point in the beta |
| 10:49.31 | *** join/#wowuidev d[karl]b (~karl@124-169-165-115.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 11:38.46 | *** join/#wowuidev Kalroth (~Kalroth@d40aa5af.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 11:39.55 | *** join/#wowuidev isman (~drag@mna75-2-82-67-196-34.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 11:42.16 | zenzelezz | god I hate FPS games that reset character state when they load... "oh hey, you were crouching? Just because you still hold the crouch key doesn't mean we care! And let us play the weapon cocking sound too so we make sure all your enemies are aware of you!" |
| 12:11.14 | *** join/#wowuidev bluspacecow (~bluspacec@60-234-165-167.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) |
| 12:11.14 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v bluspacecow] by ChanServ |
| 12:12.25 | Joezilla | zeneless |
| 12:13.08 | Joezilla | yeah i noticed that too in wow, when in stealth with illidan, the stealth goes off after someone joins grp |
| 12:13.39 | zenzelezz | really? That's a weird one |
| 12:13.57 | mikma | zenzelezz: well try BF3... sometimes the character forgets how to move forward when you are ie. running |
| 12:14.00 | bluspacecow | hihihihi |
| 12:14.23 | mikma | also, anglehigh objects can totally block your way, you need to vault over them or you are stuck |
| 12:14.26 | zenzelezz | mikma: heh |
| 12:15.07 | zenzelezz | I like how Skyrim locks the run/walk mode when you zone... ie. if you press shift while opening a door, the shift-key state is reversed (if it previously made you walk, it now makes you run) |
| 12:16.52 | mikma | BF3 also has if you tap forwardbutton twice you start running |
| 12:17.06 | mikma | try sniping when that function is enabled.... oh and you cannot disable it |
| 12:17.20 | mikma | if you tap it twice your character will stand up no matter where you are |
| 12:17.50 | mikma | usually you are on your belly sniping some heads and pop, now you are standing up and people start shooting at you |
| 12:19.36 | zenzelezz | heh |
| 12:26.35 | *** join/#wowuidev the-golem (~Darrin@c-24-10-17-129.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 12:45.05 | *** join/#wowuidev Silvanas (~bot@ip73-40-173-82.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) |
| 13:01.29 | *** join/#wowuidev rtharper (~tomh@unaffiliated/sioraiocht) |
| 13:04.44 | *** join/#wowuidev Aurorus (~Aurorus@unaffiliated/aurorus) |
| 13:06.18 | *** join/#wowuidev HD (~mpx@cpe-70-117-9-35.satx.res.rr.com) |
| 13:22.29 | *** join/#wowuidev stolenlegacy (stolenlega@unaffiliated/stolenlegacy) |
| 13:24.55 | *** join/#wowuidev foxlit (~foxlit@0x573e6bae.alb2nxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
| 14:04.30 | *** join/#wowuidev Robsato (~Robsato@541AE7CC.cm-5-3d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 14:05.52 | nevcairiel | anyone know what these dark orange questionmarks above npcs are in the beta? |
| 14:06.50 | nevcairiel | or rather, exclamation marks |
| 14:06.58 | nevcairiel | like quests, in dark orange, cant accept them |
| 14:07.16 | nevcairiel | i figured, maybe lvl90 daily quests that unlock later or something, but why not make them silver like all other quests you cant take yet |
| 14:11.28 | *** join/#wowuidev rtharper (~tomh@unaffiliated/sioraiocht) |
| 14:44.42 | Fisker | can you talk to them at all nevcairiel ? |
| 14:44.50 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 14:44.54 | nevcairiel | just dont offer a quest |
| 14:45.48 | Fisker | then idk |
| 14:48.06 | AcidWeb | Still looking for somebody who will play rated EOTS soon. |
| 14:49.50 | Sintacks | offers nevcairiel a quest |
| 14:50.18 | AcidWeb | I will provide e-cookies as reward. |
| 14:50.37 | bluspacecow | wot dat |
| 14:50.44 | bluspacecow | rated EOTS |
| 14:50.47 | bluspacecow | can I eat it ? |
| 14:51.00 | Sintacks | gives bluspacecow some rated EOTS |
| 14:51.02 | AcidWeb | Eye of the Storm. |
| 14:51.08 | bluspacecow | om nom nom nom |
| 14:51.16 | Sintacks | So, someone bought me Minecraft ... |
| 14:51.20 | bluspacecow | eee that's a BG isn't it |
| 14:51.21 | Sintacks | That was stupid of them. |
| 14:51.37 | Sintacks | i need a shovel... |
| 14:51.37 | bluspacecow | so you want me to go run around and die a lot for you ? |
| 14:51.42 | Sintacks | i've gone through 4 of them :| |
| 14:52.00 | Sintacks | walks away |
| 14:54.17 | *** join/#wowuidev rtharper (~tomh@188-220-5-137.zone11.bethere.co.uk) |
| 14:54.18 | *** join/#wowuidev rtharper (~tomh@unaffiliated/sioraiocht) |
| 15:15.45 | AcidWeb | Someday players will include proper bug logs to each ticket. |
| 15:15.49 | AcidWeb | And universe will explode. |
| 15:17.04 | foxlit | nevcairiel: should be legendary quests |
| 15:17.16 | foxlit | but you really shouldn't be seeing that many of them in that case. |
| 15:18.11 | nevcairiel | i've found at least 3 or 4 |
| 15:18.30 | nevcairiel | .. so far |
| 15:20.31 | foxlit | check the orange against GossipFrame\AvailableLegendaryQuestIcon ? |
| 15:36.42 | karl_w_w | wow nice community choice |
| 15:36.49 | karl_w_w | 2 of the options have already won |
| 15:41.28 | olafski | Sintacks: there goes your free time :-) |
| 15:42.50 | *** join/#wowuidev Archarodim (HydraIRC@lev92-4-88-164-134-95.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 15:59.57 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~chatzilla@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Dev/Brykrys) |
| 16:10.11 | *** join/#wowuidev pb_ee1_ (~pb_ee1@89-158-95-138.rev.dartybox.com) |
| 16:42.36 | *** join/#wowuidev Silvanas (~bot@ip73-40-173-82.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) |
| 16:50.52 | *** join/#wowuidev Kaylin (~Kaylin@c-98-203-233-187.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 17:01.04 | *** join/#wowuidev bluspacecow_ (~bluspacec@60-234-165-167.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) |
| 17:01.04 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v bluspacecow_] by ChanServ |
| 17:04.01 | *** join/#wowuidev pompy (~Mike@68.36.135.0) |
| 17:17.37 | *** join/#wowuidev brykryss (~chatzilla@cpc2-craw2-0-0-cust1299.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:19.22 | *** join/#wowuidev Elkano_ (~elkano@client00939.vpn.uni-saarland.de) |
| 17:19.22 | *** join/#wowuidev Elkano_ (~elkano@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Elkano) |
| 17:24.42 | Arrowmaster | damnit steam, stuff i already bought earlier in the sale is part of packs on sale today |
| 17:26.46 | pompy | glad the double fine bundle is avail again |
| 17:27.54 | Arrowmaster | i bought the splinter cell pack just the other day and now the entire tom clancy pack is on sale |
| 17:28.47 | *** join/#wowuidev Yoshimo (~Miranda@p5B04CC55.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:35.39 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~chatzilla@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Dev/Brykrys) |
| 17:42.23 | *** join/#wowuidev Iriel (~Iriel@173-8-135-209-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 17:42.23 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 17:43.16 | pompy | Arrowmaster: vote for just cause 2! |
| 17:46.26 | Arrowmaster | i did since i own the rest |
| 17:50.30 | *** join/#wowuidev arton (~arton@tx-184-6-176-223.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 17:50.41 | haste | I've gone from 81 games to 146 so far this sale =/ |
| 17:54.17 | Silvanas | i havent bought anything yet |
| 17:54.22 | Silvanas | waiting for portal 3 |
| 17:55.13 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~chatzilla@cpc2-craw2-0-0-cust1299.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:55.13 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~chatzilla@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Dev/Brykrys) |
| 17:59.52 | Silvanas | sadly lua patterns whit a ? always seem to try to match 0 instead of first trying to match 1 |
| 18:00.51 | foxlit | that sounds wrong |
| 18:01.00 | foxlit | lua> ("foo"):match("f?") |
| 18:01.00 | lua_bot | foxlit: f |
| 18:09.15 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~chatzilla@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Dev/Brykrys) |
| 18:13.14 | *** join/#wowuidev pompy (~Mike@68.36.135.0) |
| 18:17.53 | Adys | Fisker: is spaz any good? |
| 18:19.12 | Fisker | it's kind of a long game |
| 18:19.35 | Fisker | and it's not very well storydriven :P |
| 18:19.54 | Fisker | but basically you build ships, upgrade them do missions, etc. |
| 18:19.56 | Fisker | in 2d |
| 18:23.50 | *** part/#wowuidev pompy (~Mike@68.36.135.0) |
| 18:24.05 | Adys | Fisker: is it fun? |
| 18:25.14 | Fisker | i thought so |
| 18:26.19 | Adys | Korean Government Fines Blizzard $7,000 For Refusing Diablo 3 Refunds |
| 18:26.27 | Adys | $7000! That'll show em! |
| 18:41.29 | Elkano | Adys, yeah, it's fun ^^ und TotalBuiskit (or how he's spelled) does voice |
| 18:44.35 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraps (~chatzilla@pool-173-62-93-157.pghkny.east.verizon.net) |
| 19:05.30 | bluspacecow | *needs a name for a small frog pet* |
| 19:05.34 | bluspacecow | *names it Ackis* |
| 19:05.50 | mckenziemc | suggests Fisker instead |
| 19:05.56 | mckenziemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:07.46 | Ackis | ? |
| 19:09.23 | bluspacecow | hi2u |
| 19:09.38 | bluspacecow | Ackis the Frenchie |
| 19:11.30 | Ackis | ju suis un pamplemousse |
| 19:19.14 | Humbedooh | Vous ĂȘtes une froggie |
| 19:23.06 | Fisker | did they even refuse it on illegal grounds? |
| 19:23.22 | Fisker | when i heard about it apparently most of them exceeded the 1-week period that they had |
| 19:30.17 | foxlit | hm, GW2 levelling bugs me |
| 19:30.56 | foxlit | I keep running into story quests with higher level requirements than I'm able to achieve by progressing through level-appropriate quest hubs |
| 19:32.39 | *** join/#wowuidev Yoshimo (~Miranda@p5B04CC55.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:41.14 | Fisker | mad foxlit ? |
| 19:42.08 | Iriel | foxlit: I've had the other experience, i've been way ahead of the story questline because I keep wandering off |
| 19:42.16 | Iriel | foxlit: Is it just me or is the writing aimed at like 12 year olds? |
| 19:42.39 | foxlit | I'm, er, infiltrating a circus |
| 19:44.57 | foxlit | Iriel: I seem to be running out of stuff to wander off too, though |
| 19:45.00 | foxlit | s/too/to/ |
| 19:45.55 | foxlit | Could probably port to a different 1-17 zone, but that seems counterproductive |
| 19:46.26 | Iriel | Have you finished all of the objectives (quests notwithstanding) in your zone? |
| 19:46.44 | foxlit | Hearts, yes. |
| 19:46.59 | Iriel | sklllups? |
| 19:47.50 | foxlit | yep |
| 19:48.07 | foxlit | missing a few vistas, but those seemed minor, and rely on some weird jumping acrobatics to get to. |
| 19:48.47 | Iriel | Strange then, by the time i'd hit the objectives and done various world quests along the way I was levelling along nicely |
| 19:49.14 | foxlit | Basically, got to 14 by clearing the starter zone, next story quest is 16 |
| 19:49.48 | Iriel | Have you tried it though? L16 quests at L14 seemed usually doable |
| 19:50.28 | foxlit | Haven't tried it; dissuaded by the UI whining at you about higher recommended levels. |
| 19:50.52 | foxlit | Found an entrance to a different zone that's only +1 on me, though, so that looks like that's the way it's supposed to go |
| 19:59.49 | *** join/#wowuidev Yoshimo (~Miranda@p5B04CC55.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:15.59 | *** join/#wowuidev cyndis (cyndis@lakka.kapsi.fi) |
| 20:20.58 | *** join/#wowuidev Kemayo (~kemayo@97-88-168-90.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 20:34.34 | *** join/#wowuidev brykryss (~chatzilla@cpc2-craw2-0-0-cust1299.croy.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 20:55.14 | *** join/#wowuidev Telshin (~textual@67.58.77.206) |
| 21:00.42 | *** join/#wowuidev Liath (~Liath@fctnnbsc30w-142166245187.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.nb.bellaliant.net) |
| 21:00.42 | *** join/#wowuidev Liath (~Liath@unaffiliated/liath) |
| 21:10.01 | *** join/#wowuidev Kodiack (~Colton@96-42-240-206.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) |
| 21:23.31 | p3lim | Can you raid DS cross-realm? |
| 21:23.58 | Ackis | no |
| 21:33.38 | *** join/#wowuidev Robsato (~Robsato@541AE7CC.cm-5-3d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 21:34.50 | mckenziemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:38.35 | *** join/#wowuidev Kaylin (~Kaylin@c-98-203-233-187.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 21:41.19 | Amarande | Ackis: you can't even enter a raid with a Real ID group that's mixed realm? |
| 21:41.48 | mckenziemc | no. now go back to sleep |
| 21:41.58 | Kaylin | I can :X I did BT with a mixed realm group |
| 21:42.14 | Ackis | Amarande: DS can't be cross-realm raided except for LFR |
| 21:42.16 | mckenziemc | anything but DS yeah |
| 21:42.21 | Ackis | everything else can |
| 21:44.30 | *** join/#wowuidev the-golem (~Darrin@c-24-10-17-129.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 21:46.50 | Amarande | huh. that's strange. |
| 21:47.01 | Amarande | a specific bar flag on a single instance, or are there technical reasons for it? |
| 21:47.38 | Amarande | that almost sounds like Blizzard taking a stance that what they want people to do is spend more and more time playing with randomly chosen teammates than with friends and guilds |
| 21:47.47 | Amarande | which is a little weird seeing how much they're trying to push guildedness with the perks :S |
| 21:47.56 | mckenziemc | don't think too hard, you might hurt yourself |
| 21:49.12 | mckenziemc | cross-realm raiding came out at the same time as DS; they want to keep the current raid unadulterated of any bugs/exploits involving cross-realm raiding |
| 21:50.48 | Amarande | I'm trying to think of how cross-realm groups would have bugs or exploits, though |
| 21:51.05 | Kaylin | I don't think they could know ahead of time |
| 21:51.08 | Amarande | For instance, LFD has been out for 5-mans for 2+ years now |
| 21:51.22 | Amarande | has there ever been a case where an exploit was possible with a cross-realm LFD group there, where it was not possible in a normal single realm run? |
| 21:52.04 | Amarande | In other words, I'm skeptical because it seems if there's an exploit, it would happen with both all-same-realm and with cross-realm groups |
| 21:52.15 | mckenziemc | they've been doing realm maintenance for years, yet sometimes bugs still come up |
| 21:52.20 | mckenziemc | it's a precaution |
| 21:52.27 | Amarande | I'm finding it hard to imagine one that is functional *only* if there are group members from multiple servers, though |
| 21:52.35 | Amarande | like, how would such an exploit have to work, technically? |
| 21:53.05 | mckenziemc | there's a key point about bugs you're forgetting |
| 21:53.14 | Amarande | The only thing I can think of that's different in x-realm groups would be there's probably more chance of lag and/or disconnects (especially if you have a Real ID group that spans multiple data centres) |
| 21:53.29 | Amarande | however, then you would have to argue that what you'd have to do is bar entry to raids if your ping is over a certain threshold |
| 21:53.46 | Amarande | as an exploit that involves lag or DC would be perfectly workable with a single realm guild group |
| 21:54.24 | Amarande | mckenziemc: yeah. that they didn't get caught before release or they wouldn't be bugs |
| 21:54.36 | mckenziemc | no |
| 21:55.06 | Amarande | like I said, I'm just trying to figure out if there's anything specific about the technology of a cross-realm group that even could, theoretically, give rise to an exploit that's *only* possible if the group is cross realm, and not possible for a single-realm raid |
| 21:55.10 | mckenziemc | that the issues appear in unexpected places and ways |
| 21:55.21 | mckenziemc | like i said, don't htink too hard |
| 21:57.01 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~chatzilla@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Dev/Brykrys) |
| 21:57.47 | Amarande | I suppose the real thing to figure out is whether there have been any incidences of exploity behaviour in LFD DS that have not occurred in normal or heroic DS |
| 21:58.03 | mckenziemc | no |
| 21:58.07 | mckenziemc | theres' nothing to figure out |
| 21:58.15 | Amarande | After all, if an exploit was possible and occurred in LFR, there would surely be some or other unscrupulous guild who would attempt it in N or H |
| 22:07.52 | *** join/#wowuidev Hoegir (~unclecycl@host-69-145-24-173.gdj-co.client.bresnan.net) |
| 22:17.36 | *** join/#wowuidev Wa (~wa@50.45.216.44) |
| 22:29.02 | Hoegir | Does anybody know why http://pastebin.com/Wek5xWey won't work when the font is changed by another addon? It works fine otherwise. |
| 22:31.23 | Kaylin | does not, but hopefully somebody who does more UI stuff knows. |
| 22:33.24 | Cairenn|afk | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:38.18 | *** join/#wowuidev Gragagrogog (~blindpred@89.177.116.251) |
| 22:47.56 | Kaylin | so I asked in the tsm irc channel but nobody was able to recommend me one. I would like to find an addon that has similar functionality to tradeskillmaster's dealfinding lists or qa3's snatch lists, tsm does not support bids just buyouts. what should I use for bids? |
| 22:50.04 | *** join/#wowuidev |Jelly| (~|Jelly|@c-98-234-60-111.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 22:52.04 | Torhal | Kaylin: PM the author for TSM? |
| 22:52.48 | Kaylin | okay! |
| 23:03.42 | *** join/#wowuidev [1]Archarodim (HydraIRC@lev92-4-88-164-134-95.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 23:09.45 | *** join/#wowuidev pompy (~Mike@68.36.135.0) |
| 23:22.08 | *** join/#wowuidev Random (~Denial@unaffiliated/windaria) |
| 23:28.18 | *** join/#wowuidev neutronimity (~neutronim@g227068144.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 23:38.12 | Adys | Dagmar: if I want a static ip on my local network, is it better to configure it on the router or on the machine? and why? |
| 23:39.52 | Arrowmaster | i prefer to do it on the router/dhcp server because then i dont need to worry about anything when taking the computer to a different network |
| 23:40.25 | Kaylin | me too, I prefer the router in case I ever shut off the system. |
| 23:41.36 | *** join/#wowuidev tlund (~tlund@envy.nxs.se) |
| 23:42.55 | Iriel | Me also, though sometimes i'll configure both |
| 23:43.13 | Iriel | for example, I just installed a managed switch and gave it a static IP, but added a matching DHCP entry |
| 23:46.40 | *** join/#wowuidev Droolio (~drool@host86-171-142-125.range86-171.btcentralplus.com) |
| 23:51.00 | Amarande | huh. looks like I have a dud mail stuck on Kiruna for a month now |
| 23:51.07 | Amarande | that was a strange thing indeed |
| 23:55.59 | Amarande | like ... I was collecting my expired auctions from the mailbox and at one point the mailbox DESPAWNED. |
| 23:56.20 | Amarande | No, I wasn't mooching someone's MOLL-E or anything like that ... this was the regular mailbox in Darnassus ... :| |
| 23:56.52 | Amarande | Then when I opened my mailbox again one of the AH mails was still there but now it has no item on it and won't delete. I guess I'm shy a mailbox slot for the next month heh |
| 23:57.48 | mckenziemc | log out and back in |
| 23:58.13 | mckenziemc | or just give me your account info |
| 23:58.43 | Amarande | :P mckenziemc |
