| 00:16.03 | mikma | cairenn: http://www.break.com/index/extreme-canadian-road-rage-2349029 |
| 00:20.54 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 00:22.39 | Cairenn | http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/story/2009/11/27/ottawa-machete-attack-highway-417-road-rage.html |
| 00:22.54 | Cairenn | That one is still talked about :p |
| 00:22.59 | kd3 | a freaking machete? |
| 00:23.03 | Cairenn | yup |
| 00:23.04 | kd3 | wtf |
| 00:23.08 | Cairenn | exactly |
| 00:23.37 | Cairenn | who the hell carries around a machete in their car in Ottawa? Not like there's any massive jungle undergrowth he needs to get through |
| 00:24.13 | Cairenn | But that's precisely -why- it's still talked about ... a machete? wtf? |
| 00:24.43 | mikma | russian |
| 00:27.03 | kd3 | heh; http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120717/11403219732/jon-stewart-blasts-viacom-stupid-blackout-viacom-sheepishly-turns-web-streams-back.shtml |
| 00:27.22 | TC-Work | heh, it's not just 'causing a disturbance' it's 'causeing a distubance by screamnig' |
| 00:27.33 | TC-Work | s/nig/ing/ |
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| 00:50.30 | pompy | http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/382518_253163531467779_56440154_n.jpg |
| 00:58.22 | TC-Work | children > gaming |
| 00:58.23 | TC-Work | >.< |
| 00:58.50 | Adys | kd3: i dont think i ever had as many peers on a daily show download |
| 00:59.04 | kd3 | lol |
| 01:00.18 | kd3 | oh, that reminds me, you may want to update pympq, ladik's changed some of the calls in stormlib |
| 01:00.31 | kd3 | mpq/stormmodule.cc:406:48: error: too few arguments to function ‘bool SFileExtractFile(HANDLE, const char*, const TCHAR*, DWORD)’ |
| 01:01.29 | Adys | kd3: mmh ok |
| 01:01.37 | Adys | ill do that now, sec |
| 01:02.58 | Adys | Default procedure parameters no longer exist. Calls to SFileReadFile and SFileGetFileInfo need to be fixed to have all parameters. |
| 01:02.59 | Adys | uh |
| 01:03.52 | kd3 | and a few other functions too, I see SFileGetFileInfo getting complained about too |
| 01:04.12 | kd3 | https://gist.github.com/3133371 |
| 01:04.16 | Adys | stormlib isnt even compiling |
| 01:04.21 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:10.55 | Adys | kd3: synced https://github.com/adys/stormlib |
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| 01:18.28 | Adys | kd3: ok, python-mpq fixed |
| 01:18.37 | kd3 | <3 |
| 01:18.50 | Adys | ladik added a search scope in ExtractFile |
| 01:19.02 | Adys | SFILE_OPEN_FROM_MPQ vs SFILE_OPEN_PATCHED_FILE |
| 01:19.06 | Adys | Im defaulting to SFILE_OPEN_PATCHED_FILE atm |
| 01:19.16 | Adys | ill add an optional param for it when i get time |
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| 01:49.49 | kd3 | damn it, I need to stop going in to buildings in d3d9 mode |
| 01:51.45 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 02:00.11 | kd3 | instacrash on beta if you do that |
| 02:04.54 | Arrowmaster | damn you steam! stop taking all my moneyies! |
| 02:05.33 | Arrowmaster | ive probably come close to spending as much this year than all other previous sales combined |
| 02:06.04 | kd3 | having expendable income like that is nice |
| 02:06.14 | Arrowmaster | but i dont |
| 02:07.09 | Arrowmaster | and why doesnt oblivion have an upgrade option from the goty edition to the goty deluxe edition |
| 02:07.19 | Arrowmaster | i want horsey armor |
| 02:08.30 | Arrowmaster | also my fridge is dying |
| 02:08.30 | Arrowmaster | which is sad |
| 02:08.30 | Arrowmaster | its older than me |
| 02:10.56 | pompy | i missed the 75% off double fine bundle.. damn |
| 02:11.02 | pompy | hope i see it again before july 23 |
| 02:11.17 | TC-Work | nope |
| 02:12.17 | pompy | pshh |
| 02:13.24 | Adys | ive been strong |
| 02:13.31 | Adys | i only bought civ collection so far |
| 02:13.40 | TC-Work | so how can you be getting messages from syslogd but not have them show up in messages or syslog? |
| 02:14.02 | Adys | TC-Work: piped elsewhere? |
| 02:14.09 | TC-Work | I dont think so |
| 02:14.32 | Adys | out of ideas |
| 02:14.33 | Adys | gnite |
| 02:14.35 | TC-Work | would that be an env thing? |
| 02:14.37 | TC-Work | night |
| 02:18.11 | pompy | Arrowmaster: ahh you bought the dungeon defenders collection eh? I see buying that which is the 21 dlc + the main game is cheaper than buying the 21 dlc |
| 02:18.12 | pompy | crazy |
| 02:18.26 | Arrowmaster | a lot of the collections are like that |
| 02:18.31 | pompy | yeahh |
| 02:18.33 | Arrowmaster | like all of them |
| 02:18.43 | TC-Work | thats why it is a sale.... |
| 02:20.55 | pompy | TC-Work: the "21 dlc" is on sale as well. but more than the "21 dlc + main game" thats also on sale ;). |
| 02:21.18 | pompy | but yeah the collections are cool,, but stinks they dont like give you a giftable copy of a game u already have. |
| 02:23.53 | TC-Work | pompy: please do not disturb my smug supiriority. That is all. |
| 02:26.04 | Arrowmaster | this is why you dont fuck with people trying to use the internet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZNC2VwyaPU&feature=youtu.be |
| 02:27.33 | TC-Work | seems he cant hit the broadside of a barn either |
| 02:50.22 | Dagmar | He doesn't appear to be trying terribly hard |
| 02:50.37 | Dagmar | Just goes to show you that the internet is a dangerous place. |
| 02:55.40 | Dagmar | ...particularly in the Florida cafes. |
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| 02:59.35 | pompy | so sad .. http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2012/07/17/two-people-hurt-four-dogs-dead-in-carmichael-hit-and-run/ |
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| 03:18.51 | kd3 | oh yay, my doublefine goodies shipped |
| 03:19.04 | Arrowmaster | i still havent gotten anything about mine |
| 03:19.18 | Arrowmaster | maybe its because im getting a signed poster? |
| 03:21.55 | Arrowmaster | hey a flash deal i would buy but i already own everything in it and probably payed more for them and havent played a single one since i bought them |
| 03:27.13 | Arrowmaster | karl_w_w is still playing spacechem, so either he likes it a lot or he left it on and went afk |
| 03:28.03 | karl_w_w | the latter |
| 03:28.10 | Arrowmaster | bastard |
| 03:28.54 | pompy | haha |
| 03:34.26 | Arrowmaster | so somehow this went up $500 in 20 games??? http://www.steamcalculator.com/id/arrowmaster |
| 03:34.40 | Arrowmaster | or my memory is wrong |
| 03:35.42 | Arrowmaster | haha might have found it, GTA1 $49.99, GTA2 $49.99 |
| 03:36.29 | Arrowmaster | it counts items not available separately as costing the full pack price for each one |
| 03:37.04 | Arrowmaster | Counter-Strike: Condition Zero Deleted Scenes $99.99 USD |
| 03:37.06 | Arrowmaster | dafuk |
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| 03:42.57 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: no, it always counts games as the price they were released at, not purchased at. |
| 03:43.26 | Arrowmaster | i dont think GTA1 was ever released standalone on steam |
| 03:44.22 | mckenziemc | deleted scenes didn't show any price when i was looking at it earlier o.O |
| 03:46.34 | mckenziemc | oh i was looking at it on the store not a calculator |
| 03:48.44 | Arrowmaster | i dont even.... http://imgur.com/r/WTF/4dcVF |
| 03:52.38 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: ^^ |
| 03:52.59 | Cairenn | rofl, well alrighty then! |
| 03:53.31 | Arrowmaster | i know right |
| 03:53.58 | Cairenn | I mean, it kind of makes sense if you live on the upper floors of an apartment building |
| 03:54.04 | Cairenn | but still |
| 03:56.25 | karl_w_w | Arrowmaster does the molecule have to be completely in the output? |
| 03:57.00 | Arrowmaster | karl_w_w: in the 4x4 output grid yes, some puzzles might have a single 4x8 output |
| 04:13.43 | Arrowmaster | haha railworks dlc http://i.imgur.com/UcJZK.jpg |
| 04:14.06 | kd3 | WTF |
| 04:14.14 | Corrodias2 | it's true |
| 04:15.10 | Thunder_Child | that still should not be 1K |
| 04:15.32 | pompy | yeah the dlc is like $20-$40 a piece |
| 04:15.34 | pompy | its dumb |
| 04:16.23 | foxlit | i like trains. |
| 04:16.53 | pompy | railworks 3 trains vs zombies dlc .. |
| 04:17.05 | Thunder_Child | It's still cheaper than doing model trains. One engine runs you about 1K |
| 04:17.31 | Corrodias2 | this is five bucks and it's neat. http://store.steampowered.com/app/61000/ |
| 04:17.40 | pompy | http://store.steampowered.com/app/65235/ |
| 04:19.16 | mckenziemc | hey Corrodias2 |
| 04:19.17 | Thunder_Child | Amazing, out of all of the media on the DCS:Blackshark page there is only a single video showing gameplay |
| 04:19.22 | Corrodias2 | hey me |
| 04:19.23 | Thunder_Child | these people piss me off. |
| 04:19.32 | mckenziemc | i could just load up one of my BF2 mods and fly one of those |
| 04:20.09 | Corrodias2 | cool |
| 04:42.50 | kd3 | ok, wow. and I thought the USPTO couldn't get any dumber... http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=8,223,134.PN.&OS=PN/8,223,134&RS=PN/8,223,134 |
| 04:45.50 | Thunder_Child | That is a wall of text |
| 04:46.16 | kd3 | basically, apple just got a patent on displaying lists and documents on a touchscreen-using smartphone |
| 04:47.47 | Thunder_Child | with a scrollbar |
| 04:47.55 | Thunder_Child | i think it was rather clear on that point |
| 04:51.15 | randomDude | all smartphones already do that |
| 04:58.39 | Iriel | technically it's a continuation of an earlier application |
| 04:58.45 | Iriel | so it's not QUITE as bizarre as it seems |
| 04:58.59 | pompy | fine Valve, take moar of my moniess |
| 04:59.01 | Iriel | (Not that I support such patents) |
| 05:04.33 | karl_w_w | ok this is a concern. on the windows xp machine in this house, i emptied the recycle bin using disk cleanup. i went to the desktop and saw the recycle bin was showing as having something in it. i opened the recycle bin and there's nothing in there. i right click the recycle bin to empty and it says "are you sure you want to delete 'WINDOWS'?" |
| 05:05.07 | Corrodias2 | odd... |
| 05:06.09 | pompy | karl_w_w: http://forums.techguy.org/windows-xp/468286-wierd-recycle-bin-problem-you.html |
| 05:08.00 | karl_w_w | yeah it's gone on restart\ |
| 05:09.41 | Thunder_Child | so are people |
| 05:12.12 | nevcairiel | kd3: the USPTO accepts everything from Apple, no matter how stupid the patent, they must pay enough :p |
| 05:12.13 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://pastebin.com || 4.3.x ToC: 40300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || MoP Beta UI/API Changes forum: http://bit.ly/GMjEVC. Feel free to post what you find! || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || MoP Beta Keys! http://bit.ly/MNsc0R or http://bit.ly/LNg7Yk || Happy Birthday Wobin! |
| 05:20.06 | karl_w_w | Wobin! happy birthday http://tinyurl.com/243jdwf |
| 05:20.16 | mckenziemc | o.O |
| 05:20.48 | kd3 | I've done that to a cake before |
| 05:21.48 | Thunder_Child | kd3: and managed to get them all lit? |
| 05:22.06 | kd3 | probably 2/3, then things started melting |
| 05:22.29 | nevcairiel | would probably take a flamethrower to lit them all without burning your own arm-hair :p |
| 05:22.40 | kd3 | ^ the second (and hopefully last) time I've ever had to use a fire extinguisher |
| 05:22.52 | kd3 | one of the long-handled lighter things worked surprisingly well |
| 05:23.54 | kd3 | (yay gis) http://newyork.classicpartyrentals.com/products/misc/lighter_8 |
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| 05:24.30 | kd3 | and don't ctrl+w when xchat is focused, kd3 |
| 05:25.30 | Thunder_Child | i like that the previous link is a fire extinguisher |
| 05:26.01 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 05:26.06 | kd3 | 'lo |
| 05:26.07 | Fisker | dances |
| 05:27.13 | mckenziemc | stabs Fisker. |
| 05:27.19 | Fisker | nope |
| 05:27.47 | kd3 | hokay, mouse batteries just died. guess that means it's time to crash. bleh |
| 05:28.44 | kd3 | grr, how do I logout without right-clicking on something? |
| 05:28.58 | kd3 | guess I can just ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X |
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| 05:30.01 | kd3 | yay, that worked. now to start mythfrontend |
| 05:37.48 | Thunder_Child | kd3: uh...use the start menu |
| 05:38.18 | karl_w_w | windows key, right, enter |
| 05:38.39 | Thunder_Child | windows key doesnt work for me in linux |
| 05:39.15 | karl_w_w | oh right, linux |
| 05:39.17 | Thunder_Child | but you can do ctrl+esc/~/F1 (It varies) |
| 05:39.23 | Thunder_Child | to open the start menu |
| 05:39.44 | Thunder_Child | hell ctrl+esc works in windows |
| 05:40.06 | karl_w_w | linux: because principles > convenience |
| 05:40.21 | Thunder_Child | not really, you can map it, it's just not default |
| 05:40.46 | Thunder_Child | which is resonable, since not every keyboard has a windows button |
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| 05:49.11 | Kaylin | no brain, it's sleep time not internet time! |
| 05:52.39 | karl_w_w | that was interesting |
| 05:54.31 | karl_w_w | if you follow a stream on twitch do they notify you when the stream comes online? |
| 05:59.15 | Shadowed | hum, how exactly do you level pets for battle |
| 05:59.17 | Shadowed | so I can actually test things |
| 06:04.12 | Shadowed | ah quest |
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| 06:07.00 | karl_w_w | http://www.lamebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/foto2.jpg I lol'd |
| 06:07.40 | Shadowed | annnd starting a pet battle DCs me, welp |
| 06:08.29 | karl_w_w | count yourself lucky it's not a crash, ShadniX |
| 06:08.33 | karl_w_w | Shadowed* |
| 06:14.24 | Arrowmaster | fuck this damn heat wave |
| 06:14.28 | Arrowmaster | cant sleep |
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| 06:24.31 | Arrowmaster | almost spit water all over my screen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huMDgmU2KtM&feature=g-u-u |
| 06:25.08 | randomDude | hey karl_w_w, you must be doing something wrong... like not changing your keyboard layout options. |
| 06:25.17 | Corgan | Adys |
| 06:25.36 | randomDude | or maybe kd3 |
| 06:30.46 | karl_w_w | wow that was a close community vote |
| 06:30.52 | pompy | yeahh |
| 06:31.00 | pompy | 34,33,33 |
| 06:31.08 | pompy | torchlight won |
| 06:31.45 | pompy | another one i forgot to vote for >< .. damn u procrastination |
| 06:31.59 | Arrowmaster | why do things i already own keep winning |
| 06:39.05 | karl_w_w | clearly you're a trend setter Arrowmaster |
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| 06:52.36 | bluspacecow | lens flares in an anime. |
| 06:52.39 | bluspacecow | not sure if want. |
| 06:52.50 | Arrowmaster | what anime? |
| 06:52.53 | bluspacecow | oh well it shows the animation quality of this anime is pretty good |
| 06:53.00 | bluspacecow | Avatar The Last Airbender |
| 06:53.17 | karl_w_w | bluspacecow: only when used to illustrate a hot sun beating down |
| 06:53.29 | bluspacecow | well they are in the snow and ice |
| 06:53.44 | bluspacecow | so it _is_ at least realistic |
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| 07:10.22 | karl_w_w | phone rings, pick it up, "hello", silence, "hello?", *maori accent* "ahh, helloo?", he hangs up |
| 07:11.20 | bluspacecow | kia ora |
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| 08:02.29 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/7s32E |
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| 08:06.20 | bluspacecow | Cairenn: http://www.gifstache.com/view//84 |
| 08:06.22 | bluspacecow | LOL |
| 08:07.07 | Cairenn | rofl |
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| 08:15.58 | Fisker | so Adys |
| 08:16.10 | Fisker | what webserver would i use if i just need simple static html pages served? |
| 08:16.30 | bluspacecow | facebook.com |
| 08:17.12 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/mlp.jpg |
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| 08:27.27 | karl_w_w | <mikma> http://imgur.com/gallery/7s32E <- @19 L2tetrapack |
| 08:43.23 | Adys | Fisker: nginx |
| 08:43.56 | Adys | Fisker: unless you dont give a shit about speed and dont want any actual daemon, just a temporary webserver |
| 08:44.14 | Adys | Fisker: in which case, python -m http.server |
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| 09:09.47 | karl_w_w | we've all voted for need for speed hot pursuit I hope? |
| 09:10.22 | Elkano | if it had been the original HP... |
| 09:10.59 | pompy | that i did karl_w_w |
| 09:11.51 | bluspacecow | @Fisker U mad ? |
| 09:12.47 | karl_w_w | sprays mad sauce on bluspacecow |
| 09:13.06 | bluspacecow | *licks it off* |
| 09:13.09 | bluspacecow | nummmy! |
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| 09:56.59 | AcidWeb | http://i.imgur.com/JETdH.jpg |
| 10:06.58 | Yoshimo | in mop pets can be tracked with a pawicon on the minimap, can you get any other info about that minimap icon except icon name and petname and maybe even change that icon? |
| 10:09.51 | karl_w_w | AcidWeb: all other games pls |
| 10:15.53 | Adys | cbreak: how do I merge a branch to master, overwriting any changes to master there has been? |
| 10:16.11 | Adys | as in, how do I make a branch into master |
| 10:16.22 | Adys | without having to merge, just discarding anything |
| 10:21.35 | nevcairiel | git reset --hard brachname |
| 10:22.00 | nevcairiel | do that when having master checked out |
| 10:23.22 | nevcairiel | this resets the current branch to whatever you want. commit/branch/etc |
| 10:25.09 | Adys | thanks :) |
| 10:35.44 | Mikk | So umm SSD geeks... Anything negative I should be aware of for Intel 330 chipset? |
| 10:35.54 | Mikk | er nor chipset... 330 range i mean |
| 10:52.00 | Mikk | too late i punched buy |
| 11:04.47 | bluspacecow | "Tohle je největší kočička zahajení festivalu v Karlových Varech. " |
| 11:04.59 | bluspacecow | oh google translate and your odd translations :P |
| 11:16.15 | Yoshimo | the more uncommon a language is the funnier the result^^ |
| 11:43.36 | Adys | kd3: added support for scopes in extract |
| 11:43.53 | Adys | extract(member, path), defaults to patched=True |
| 11:44.25 | Adys | hm |
| 11:44.38 | Adys | I will change it to false, stormlib docs say it should be OPEN_FROM_MPQ by default |
| 11:45.45 | Adys | kd3: i also added my multi-archive support as i had it for a while locally |
| 11:45.50 | Adys | it should work but its been ages |
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| 11:59.24 | cbreak-work | Adys: if you want a real merge and not just rewrite history |
| 11:59.33 | cbreak-work | then you can do it with git commit-tree |
| 11:59.33 | Adys | cbreak: nah |
| 11:59.46 | cbreak-work | otherwise: how about renaming master to old-master and the other branch to master? |
| 12:01.03 | Adys | cbreak-work: i did what nevcairiel suggested |
| 12:02.47 | cbreak-work | that'll just kill old history |
| 12:03.02 | cbreak-work | it'll work fine if you don't care about the old stuff, and don't mind history rewriting |
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| 12:52.22 | Adys | nevcairiel: you use fabric? |
| 12:52.50 | Adys | for server deployment that is, not masturbation |
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| 12:57.48 | Lopeppeppy | That would be serious chafing, Adys. |
| 12:59.29 | kagaro | Adys: be aware the mpq load orer changed last patch of beta |
| 13:01.35 | kagaro | Adys: SFileExtractFile(@mph.value,entry.path,os_file,SFILE_OPEN_PATCHED_FILE) |
| 13:02.53 | kagaro | to extract dbc for instance its misc.mpq, then the local-xx.mpq then the update-base-xxx, followed by update-locale-xxx |
| 13:03.24 | kagaro | i just did a quickie mac app to extract mpqs for the beta for myself |
| 13:06.27 | Adys | kagaro: I havent heard of load order changes, what was that? |
| 13:06.37 | Adys | i havent followed latest betas |
| 13:08.55 | kagaro | the latest betas re-organized all the mpq files |
| 13:09.07 | kagaro | blizz optimizations for patching |
| 13:10.20 | bluspacecow | @kagaro i can has copy of that ? :P |
| 13:10.45 | kagaro | sure bluspacecow |
| 13:11.00 | kagaro | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10956/DBCExtractor.zip |
| 13:11.41 | bluspacecow | ty :) |
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| 13:26.59 | bluspacecow | heh not bad. nice and fast. |
| 13:27.33 | kagaro | it was 4hr of work just needed something quick todo an extract |
| 13:30.46 | Fisker | Adys i do care about speed, i'm using apache at the moment but there is probably others running great as well when i don't need anything but the static html pages |
| 13:31.00 | Adys | Fisker: then nginx is perfect for you |
| 13:31.20 | Adys | Fisker: or lighttpd, but id go for nginx |
| 13:32.12 | kagaro | i just use stormlib via ffi and its really quick |
| 13:32.53 | Adys | kagaro: ill look into it |
| 13:33.03 | Adys | kagaro: what language are you using btw? |
| 13:33.04 | Adys | c#? |
| 13:33.23 | kagaro | i was bored that day so i did it macruby |
| 13:33.32 | kagaro | since its a mac app |
| 13:33.39 | Adys | ah |
| 13:34.01 | kagaro | but the mpq extraction part is pure ruby, would be simple to use any otherlanguage via ffi that way |
| 13:34.14 | Adys | well |
| 13:34.19 | Adys | my bindings are in cpython |
| 13:34.45 | kagaro | there is already a python ffi bridge to the stormlib |
| 13:34.54 | kagaro | its on github |
| 13:34.59 | Adys | ? |
| 13:35.17 | Adys | are you talking about vjeux's? |
| 13:35.24 | kagaro | ya |
| 13:35.31 | Adys | its a ctypes hack |
| 13:35.57 | nevcairiel | Adys: i dont use fabric |
| 13:36.00 | Adys | my bindings actually link against stormlib |
| 13:36.20 | Adys | they also use the same interface as python's builtin zipfile module |
| 13:36.35 | Adys | kagaro: github.com/adys/python-mpq |
| 13:36.40 | kagaro | ahh ok, your going a lot fancier than i did, i just wanted a quick extract |
| 13:38.14 | Adys | my bindings just lack write mode |
| 13:38.15 | Adys | but |
| 13:38.20 | Adys | vjeux didnt implement that either iirc |
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| 13:42.08 | Fisker | also Adys |
| 13:42.22 | Fisker | does nginx support something like virtual directories for each host? |
| 13:42.39 | Adys | https://www.google.com/search?sugexp=chrome,mod=3&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=does+nginx+support+something+like+virtual+directories+for+each+host%3F |
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| 13:44.09 | Fisker | well played |
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| 13:53.30 | Arrowmaster | wake up to an email from google saying my n7 has shipped, check the tracking number and its already on the truck for delivery today |
| 13:53.33 | Arrowmaster | FUCK YEAH |
| 13:56.41 | Fisker | does the truck have a microsd slot? |
| 13:56.49 | Arrowmaster | yes |
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| 14:21.36 | Computerpunk | http://i.imgur.com/6qfkp.jpg |
| 14:21.37 | Computerpunk | ahahahaha |
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| 14:33.35 | Adys | to be honest I am enjoying the d3 AH a lot |
| 14:33.46 | Adys | ive never had so much actual *fun* selling stufdf |
| 14:33.48 | Adys | -d |
| 14:41.52 | pompy | karl_w_w: hot pursuit won |
| 14:43.00 | Arrowmaster | i voted for it |
| 14:43.27 | Arrowmaster | might be the first NFS i buy for PC since its made by Criterion |
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| 14:56.11 | Arrowmaster | http://store.steampowered.com/app/45100/ "1 friend already owns this game: Ackis" |
| 14:56.30 | bluspacecow | silly frenchie |
| 14:57.12 | Corrodias2 | kind of looks like Monster Rancher. except with horses. |
| 15:03.29 | pompy | Arrowmaster: of course he has that! he owns 18% of the catalog! |
| 15:03.44 | Fisker | 10 friends already own this game: |
| 15:03.49 | Fisker | i got nice friends |
| 15:04.00 | bluspacecow | oh look mine has a new catergory |
| 15:04.05 | bluspacecow | *chooses random game* |
| 15:04.14 | bluspacecow | "Fisker already owns this game" |
| 15:04.18 | Fisker | mad? |
| 15:04.28 | bluspacecow | idunnolol |
| 15:05.39 | pompy | fisker owns 20% |
| 15:05.48 | bluspacecow | of all of steam |
| 15:05.51 | bluspacecow | ALL OF IT |
| 15:05.53 | pompy | 1,003 of teh 5,064 |
| 15:05.55 | pompy | sick! |
| 15:06.00 | Arrowmaster | does that include railworks dlc? |
| 15:06.40 | pompy | he doesnt own tht game! |
| 15:07.23 | Arrowmaster | what should i vote for |
| 15:07.36 | pompy | fisker has 368/410 achievements in tf2 |
| 15:07.38 | pompy | sicko! |
| 15:07.39 | pompy | :P |
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| 15:09.24 | bluspacecow | STATION! |
| 15:09.29 | bluspacecow | hihi |
| 15:09.44 | pompy | Arrowmaster: ehh sim city 4 or anno 2070.. but still to omuch! |
| 15:09.48 | Fisker | most of those are cheated pompy so it's alright |
| 15:09.51 | Unkle | *mumbles* station |
| 15:09.53 | pompy | reported |
| 15:09.57 | Fisker | nah |
| 15:10.00 | Fisker | sam isn't cheating |
| 15:10.09 | Fisker | one of my achievements were bugged |
| 15:10.13 | Fisker | so i just unlocked them all LOL |
| 15:10.25 | pompy | haha |
| 15:10.25 | Dagmar | There's an easy way to deal with the Sim City 4 problem. |
| 15:10.29 | Dagmar | Just go try the Sim City Social game. |
| 15:10.51 | Dagmar | The burning rage you feel will make the decision about giving any more money to EA much simpler. |
| 15:11.07 | Arrowmaster | ok i voted for anno 2070 |
| 15:11.12 | Dagmar | That is, of course, assuming you haven't seen the latest ads for Lords of Ultima. |
| 15:11.50 | Dagmar | ...which now involve bikinis, as if merely hatefucking to pieces the corpse of the Ultima name wasn't bad enough. |
| 15:12.04 | bluspacecow | male dwarfs in bikinis ? |
| 15:12.09 | Arrowmaster | thats weird, i have gta3 gtavc and gtasa in my games list twice each |
| 15:12.09 | bluspacecow | that's disturbing |
| 15:12.12 | Dagmar | Nope. |
| 15:12.43 | Dagmar | They're actually using titties to try and promote an iso-view crappy strategy game |
| 15:12.56 | bluspacecow | isometric titties! |
| 15:13.13 | Dagmar | "EVONY: LOOK AT THIS WHORE!" |
| 15:14.51 | Dagmar | MOrtvert: What of it? It's a site that values mental retardation. |
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| 15:15.11 | bluspacecow | @dagmar like the wow forums ? |
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| 15:18.46 | pompy | ehh saints row the 3rd and binding of isaac are the new flash deals |
| 15:19.16 | bluspacecow | Torhaly Torhal |
| 15:20.15 | Thunder_Child | you know Unkle, you should get something original, Lunessa was using that greeting for ages. |
| 15:20.29 | Unkle | I will cut you like a prison bitch. |
| 15:20.35 | Arrowmaster | by the weekend we will probably own every flash deal and community choice before they start |
| 15:20.52 | Thunder_Child | How do prison bitches cut? |
| 15:22.00 | bluspacecow | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cut_(music) ? |
| 15:25.11 | Unkle | Thunder_Child: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWvt3E5a-AA (NSFW, language) |
| 15:26.55 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Unkle-essa-bitch! |
| 15:28.13 | Unkle | Morning Lopeppeppy. Feeling feisty are we? |
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| 15:29.46 | bluspacecow | Frisky too maybe Peppy ? |
| 15:36.37 | Lopeppeppy | I'm going to be dead of omg-ness before these bastards let me go on vacation in 2 weeks. |
| 15:37.10 | Unkle | That scene in T2 where the Terminator says "I need a vacation." That's me, right now. |
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| 15:52.16 | Unkle | From Monday, but still pure fucking win: http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/07/16 |
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| 15:57.23 | Vladinator | any devs on at this hour? |
| 15:57.37 | bluspacecow | nope not a devo fan |
| 15:57.42 | Vladinator | :p |
| 15:57.52 | bluspacecow | ask? |
| 15:58.45 | Vladinator | there has been a crime against nerds, this mop build they replaced "Don't stand in the fire!" loading screen tooltip with something else :( |
| 15:59.20 | Vladinator | I know, I was speechless too. |
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| 16:14.28 | pompy | http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/18659 llos |
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| 16:18.54 | pompy | http://www.steamgifts.com/ i still dont understand this site! |
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| 16:30.38 | karl_w_w | what were the %ages on the last community choice? |
| 16:31.48 | Arrowmaster | seriously asus, the nexus7 charger is larger than a single socket so it wont fit on my full power strip |
| 16:32.07 | pompy | Votes distribution: |
| 16:32.07 | pompy | Driver San Francisco - 38% |
| 16:32.08 | pompy | Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit - 41% |
| 16:32.08 | pompy | Test Drive Unlimited 2 - 21% |
| 16:32.11 | Unkle | Dude, most of those things are like that. |
| 16:32.12 | pompy | karl_w_w: |
| 16:32.42 | Arrowmaster | the samsung charger that came with my nexus s is nice and compact |
| 16:34.16 | TC-Work | You should be using a tenticle power strip anyway |
| 16:34.28 | TC-Work | tentacle* |
| 16:34.38 | TC-Work | or not |
| 16:34.39 | Arrowmaster | google needs to add the barcode scanner wifi network qr code stuff to the factory startup menu so i dont have to type this shit in |
| 16:35.13 | TC-Work | couldnt wait to get it, now it's all bitching |
| 16:35.22 | TC-Work | GG Arrowmaster |
| 16:35.39 | Arrowmaster | hush you |
| 16:35.53 | karl_w_w | Arrowmaster: http://www.powersquid.com/ |
| 16:36.33 | Arrowmaster | have you ever had to type a 63 character mixed case alphanumeric password in before |
| 16:37.24 | TC-Work | No, because i am not stupid enough to use one thats 63 charecters long. |
| 16:37.37 | Arrowmaster | well i am |
| 16:37.47 | TC-Work | characters* |
| 16:37.47 | Arrowmaster | the worst was entering it with a ps3 controller |
| 16:38.46 | Fisker | too bad that isn't happening here karl_w_w |
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| 16:40.11 | Dagmar | Bluetooth keyboard. |
| 16:40.33 | Adys | nicoli_s: ping |
| 16:40.39 | Fisker | hey Dagmar |
| 16:41.14 | Dagmar | Hey at least they got the "add a space when you click the enter object" bug fixed at least tho |
| 16:41.29 | Dagmar | s/at least tho/tho |
| 16:41.44 | Dagmar | That made entering passwords extra fun |
| 16:41.46 | pompy | "Sold out! Our allotment of P-body guns sold out in a record 3 minutes. Sorry! We wish we were able to get more :(." |
| 16:44.22 | Torhal|work | I blame pygmy amoebas. |
| 16:51.59 | pompy | http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/726065/world-of-warcraft-movie-no-longer-in-the-hands-of-sam-raimi/ |
| 16:53.31 | nevcairiel | as long as its not uwe boll |
| 16:53.33 | Torhal|work | Whoever is into Star Trek, check out today's shirt on http://teefury.com |
| 16:55.11 | Lopeppeppy | It's life Captain, but not as we know it. |
| 16:56.03 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef2wnLL1s00 |
| 16:56.36 | karl_w_w | fingers crossed for john favreau directing the wow movie? |
| 16:56.54 | Dagmar | I'm sure Michael Bay will do a great job. |
| 16:56.59 | karl_w_w | die |
| 16:58.01 | karl_w_w | or terry gilliam |
| 16:58.59 | Unkle | A friend of mine was trying really hard to get a shot at writing the script last year, but don't know what came of that. |
| 16:59.20 | karl_w_w | oh it cant be jon favreau |
| 16:59.30 | karl_w_w | so who's not busy right now |
| 17:00.11 | Arrowmaster | busy, playing with new toy |
| 17:00.16 | karl_w_w | jj abrams? |
| 17:00.41 | Unkle | Please no. I don't want World of FringeCraft |
| 17:01.49 | TC-Work | i would go for Joss Whedon |
| 17:02.04 | Alram | please |
| 17:02.06 | Alram | let chris metzen direct |
| 17:02.15 | karl_w_w | l;ol |
| 17:02.16 | Alram | and voice |
| 17:02.17 | Alram | everything |
| 17:02.18 | Torhal|work | Whilst drunk or no? |
| 17:02.20 | Alram | even the real people |
| 17:02.20 | karl_w_w | woody allen! |
| 17:02.24 | Alram | and on coke Torhal|work |
| 17:02.28 | Torhal|work | NICE |
| 17:04.30 | karl_w_w | TC-Work: joss will be busy on this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Your_Eyes_%282012_film%29 |
| 17:04.56 | TC-Work | karl_w_w: eh, he is just the writer |
| 17:05.00 | karl_w_w | it partly depends what kind of movie they are making |
| 17:05.22 | karl_w_w | and tbh I don't think joss would be too good with it |
| 17:05.39 | karl_w_w | better than a lot of other for sure but not up to his standards |
| 17:05.49 | TC-Work | He has standards? |
| 17:06.12 | karl_w_w | yeah he only puts out garbage |
| 17:08.42 | TC-Work | Maybe i should just see about depositing my whole check into steams account instead of transfering it manually |
| 17:09.31 | nevcairiel | i still have games from last years summer sale i never even downloaded |
| 17:09.38 | TC-Work | same |
| 17:09.41 | TC-Work | but it doesnt stop me |
| 17:09.57 | TC-Work | Ackis: http://store.steampowered.com/app/203510/ |
| 17:10.14 | karl_w_w | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_of_Steel_%28film%29#Cast some strangggge casting there |
| 17:13.16 | pompy | awesome, Bastion flash sale |
| 17:13.29 | nevcairiel | just bought it |
| 17:13.49 | Arrowmaster | got it as part of a humble bundle |
| 17:14.05 | nevcairiel | looks like the CDN is swamped though, i got much higher rates usually |
| 17:14.08 | pompy | just needs to grab the ST |
| 17:15.34 | pompy | nevcairiel: UK- London servers probably? |
| 17:15.35 | pompy | http://store.steampowered.com/stats/content/ |
| 17:15.39 | pompy | some are at high cap |
| 17:15.54 | nevcairiel | i would hope to have a german server |
| 17:16.15 | pompy | frankfurt full cap Valve #20 |
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| 17:18.38 | nevcairiel | who knows how accurate those displays are |
| 17:19.12 | nevcairiel | there is high load across the board at least |
| 17:19.24 | pompy | nevcairiel: Updated: Jul 18, 2012 - 10:14 AM |
| 17:19.31 | pompy | when i went to the page |
| 17:19.38 | nevcairiel | and its 7:18 pm |
| 17:19.54 | pompy | "when i went to the page" :) |
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| 17:20.05 | pompy | i refreshed it and it said 18 |
| 17:21.46 | pompy | sweden is pretty full |
| 17:23.37 | pompy | it should tell you what server its accessing! |
| 17:24.30 | karl_w_w | gets unmetered downloads from the internode and 3fl servers :P |
| 17:24.39 | pompy | The Steam Store is experiencing some heavy load right now. Please try again later. |
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| 17:25.20 | Mr_Rabies | gabe joke goes here |
| 17:25.28 | pompy | jerk |
| 17:25.55 | TC-Work | and here in response to pompy |
| 17:26.00 | pompy | odd a daily deal thats just 25% off |
| 17:26.17 | TC-Work | because it's now |
| 17:26.19 | TC-Work | new* |
| 17:26.26 | TC-Work | still going to buy it though |
| 17:27.06 | nevcairiel | whats that |
| 17:27.25 | pompy | sins of a solar empire rebellion |
| 17:27.29 | TC-Work | ^ |
| 17:27.33 | nevcairiel | never heard of it |
| 17:27.37 | pompy | RTS |
| 17:27.44 | TC-Work | good RTS sapce game |
| 17:27.48 | TC-Work | space* |
| 17:27.51 | TC-Work | by stardock |
| 17:27.52 | pompy | Arrowmaster: http://store.steampowered.com/sub/15400/ some anime |
| 17:28.39 | Arrowmaster | already have Recettear, might buy the other two |
| 17:29.41 | nevcairiel | whats the 4th flash sale? says its not available in my country, i see bastion, saints row and isaac |
| 17:30.32 | Corgan | dead space 2 |
| 17:30.59 | nevcairiel | not that i would want to buy it, but y u no avail |
| 17:31.00 | nicoli_s | dead space is so much fun |
| 17:31.51 | TC-Work | meh |
| 17:32.06 | TC-Work | nevcairiel: refresh, should go away |
| 17:32.16 | nevcairiel | its been there for a while now |
| 17:33.08 | pompy | nevcairiel: it has a german locale soo it better be avail ;) |
| 17:35.14 | pompy | TC-Work: you dont, have, to play trinity before rebellion, do you? |
| 17:35.25 | nevcairiel | i also dont find it using the search |
| 17:35.28 | nevcairiel | stupid limitations |
| 17:35.55 | TC-Work | pompy: only if you really really really care about the thin storyline |
| 17:38.43 | pompy | damn i forgot to grab just cause 2 |
| 17:40.11 | TC-Work | how do you forget to spend money? |
| 17:41.33 | pompy | this http://store.steampowered.com//app/70120 looks interesting. |
| 17:43.46 | pompy | http://www.epiclol.com/cdn/pictures/2012/07/hey-i-just-met-you-a_1342582973_epiclolcom.jpg |
| 17:45.41 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc1: your named poped up on my new tablet http://imgur.com/HvDYX |
| 17:46.56 | Fisker | http://www.businessinsider.com/bloomberg-apple-must-post-notice-online-in-uk-saying-samsung-didnt-copy-ipad-2012-7 <-best patent system eu |
| 17:59.20 | cogwheel | lawl |
| 17:59.44 | nevcairiel | now this will be fun |
| 18:08.07 | kd3 | wtf; http://i.imgur.com/nAHrf.jpg |
| 18:11.13 | Unkle | Reading class forum from the beta is like drinking despair from the spigot. |
| 18:11.48 | Unkle | Also, cogwheel 140 character limit jokes are … |
| 18:11.57 | cogwheel | ikr? |
| 18:12.12 | cogwheel | also d3 forums worse. |
| 18:12.19 | cogwheel | and it's getting harder and harder to blame them -_- |
| 18:15.04 | *** join/#wowuidev Krapsy (~chatzilla@static-64-61-105-166.isp.broadviewnet.net) |
| 18:20.33 | Torhal|work | cogwheel: I stopped reading. |
| 18:20.47 | Torhal|work | I figure I'll fire up D3 in six months and not want to beat someone to death. |
| 18:20.54 | cogwheel | *nod* |
| 18:21.06 | bluspacecow | ~fishslap Torhal|work |
| 18:21.06 | purl | ACTION slaps Torhal|work up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 18:21.28 | Torhal|work | ~stab bluspacecow |
| 18:21.29 | purl | ACTION runs at bluspacecow with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 18:21.45 | Unkle | I hear a lot of despair from other shaman. All I know is that I'm "doing it wrong" in beta, 'cause I'm pushing out really low numbers compared to live, despite distinct, direct improvements. I think most of the despair is from people who haven't made the needed adjustments. |
| 18:21.47 | bluspacecow | y is your one so much more original then mine ? |
| 18:22.07 | cogwheel | I hate to sound like one of "those" people, but Path of Exile is pretty hawt depending on what you were expecting from D3 |
| 18:23.27 | Torhal|work | I'm just waiting for Torchlight II to hit. Yah, cartoonish, but it's from the fuckers who made the first two Diablo games. |
| 18:23.44 | Torhal|work | And they weren't rushed unlike with Torchlight I. |
| 18:24.35 | Torhal|work | I'm also hopeful for Grim Dawn. |
| 18:24.42 | nicoli_s | ive been meaning to check out torchlight |
| 18:24.58 | Dagmar | Rushed? |
| 18:25.22 | Dagmar | How the fuck do you apply "rushed" to a game that was iterated multiple times over the course of years |
| 18:25.54 | Dagmar | The game was originally called "Fate" and has been around for a long bloody time. They just made new versions every year or two before renaming to Torchlight |
| 18:26.29 | bluspacecow | itll be a bit longer for me tho |
| 18:26.41 | bluspacecow | imma wait for the mac torchlight 2 client |
| 18:27.08 | Unkle | All I know is … I haven't found any games that I enjoy playing as much as Civ and WoW. And I'm really, really, really looking forward to a game that breaks the MMO paradigm. I don't SEE it in my head yet, but I know someone will make it and I'll be psyched about playing it. |
| 18:27.59 | AcidWeb | Unkle: Sadly we live in times where innovation in games is bad. |
| 18:28.50 | AcidWeb | AAA game marget is just broken |
| 18:29.03 | AcidWeb | *market |
| 18:29.17 | Primer | Unkle: hear hear |
| 18:30.06 | bluspacecow | see see |
| 18:30.10 | Primer | after holding out buying D3, because I had a feeling it'd be boring as fuck, I bought it (really, I bought it because my 13 year old son kept insisting...because he kept seeing the people on his real id all playing D3) |
| 18:30.47 | Primer | Then I leveled a barbarian to 50, and the third time I landed in New Tristram (or whatever it's called), I sighed and said...really? |
| 18:30.53 | Primer | haven't touched it since |
| 18:31.19 | Primer | my son stopped playing it too |
| 18:33.24 | Torhal|work | Dagmar: Erm, different game, different codebase. And Flagship didn't have the Diablo guys, so Fate didn't have their direct influence. |
| 18:34.25 | Dagmar | Are you *certain* about that, because I played Fate for _years_ and bought it three different times. |
| 18:34.30 | karl_w_w | smell smell |
| 18:34.41 | Dagmar | I would like to know how it was they weren't *sued* over Torchlight if they're different |
| 18:35.42 | bluspacecow | heh |
| 18:35.43 | bluspacecow | http://toucharcade.com/2012/07/17/egls-responds-to-torchlight-asset-theft-allegations/ |
| 18:36.34 | Unkle | Primer: Yeah, I'm looking for something that isn't Kill, Loot, Messenger Quest, Level up. |
| 18:36.42 | Dagmar | The Armed Heroes people shoudl be ashamed. |
| 18:36.45 | Unkle | But I don't know what the shape of that is yet. |
| 18:36.50 | Dagmar | I was looking into that yesterday |
| 18:36.56 | Dagmar | Boy howdy did they steal assets |
| 18:37.01 | Unkle | brb, getting foodz before the deli closes. |
| 18:37.26 | pompy | http://www.ign.com/games/torchlight-mmo/pc-97147 |
| 18:37.56 | bluspacecow | http://toucharcade.com/link/http://itunes.apple.com/nz/app/pocket-minions/id490609532?mt=8 |
| 18:37.59 | bluspacecow | not sure if want |
| 18:39.41 | nicoli_s | if you are looking for a mmo thats different from the regular wow formula, id check out the secret world, its a ton of fun |
| 18:40.47 | Torhal|work | Dagmar: Travis Baldtree developed Mythos for Flagship Studios. When Flagship died, he formed Runic Games with the guys who made the Diablo games. They'd lost all rights to Mythos, so had to start from scratch. |
| 18:41.04 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZDjnWtK1A |
| 18:41.37 | Torhal|work | They started making Torchlight in August 2008 (pre-production), and released it October 2009. |
| 18:42.00 | Torhal|work | links bluspacecow to see how many times he's clicked. |
| 18:43.37 | bluspacecow | http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/4940476820 |
| 18:43.46 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 18:43.50 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 18:43.52 | Fisker | m a d? |
| 18:44.00 | bluspacecow | i dont get you |
| 18:45.55 | Fisker | ok |
| 18:50.11 | bluspacecow | i sleepy friskery frisker |
| 18:50.21 | bluspacecow | *fisker |
| 18:51.27 | mikma | anyone here got his hands on Raspberry Pi yet? |
| 18:52.31 | Fisker | Sure |
| 18:53.12 | Unkle | mikma: not yet, but I'll be ordering a couple in the not too distant future. |
| 18:53.33 | mikma | unkle: why not do it now? cause, they lifted the 1 order restriction couple of days ago |
| 18:53.50 | Fisker | I'd rather get the odroidx |
| 18:55.02 | Unkle | mikma: next month. Budget is tight this month. But I'm going to build a couple of projects with one - the first beign a media server. |
| 18:55.32 | mikma | unkle: well that's my problem currently, the Raspbian i am using is somewhat superslow for some reason |
| 18:55.36 | Unkle | s/beign/being |
| 18:55.43 | mikma | i'm trying to find a reason for that |
| 18:55.45 | nevcairiel | the cpu in that thing isnt all that fast to begin with |
| 18:56.11 | nevcairiel | although i heard there was a new release of that distro just recently |
| 18:56.14 | Unkle | I'm going to do it for fun and to teach myself how. |
| 18:56.49 | Unkle | My Linux experience is a decade+ out of date. |
| 18:57.59 | Dagmar | It's not super-fast. AFAIK the reason it can play h.264 media is hardware accel |
| 18:58.35 | nevcairiel | yeah there is a fixed function decoder for h264 |
| 18:58.43 | nevcairiel | otherwise it would never manage |
| 18:59.03 | Fisker | Hence ofdroidx |
| 18:59.07 | mikma | http://youtu.be/v0pLdY2Ap5Q - well if you look at this, it should be pretty fast (the one in this video is overclocked to 1GHz) |
| 18:59.34 | mikma | my midori takes ages to even start |
| 18:59.38 | Unkle | I'm thinking it might be fun to build a box with 4 or 5 of them and then let it do shared computing tasks like the ones for cancer research and SETI. |
| 19:00.02 | nevcairiel | somehow i think one cheap-ass x86 system can outperform that :d |
| 19:00.21 | Unkle | Yeah, but it would still be a fun project with some social value. |
| 19:01.00 | nevcairiel | mikma: maybe he got a faster flash memory for better "harddrive" performance |
| 19:01.21 | pompy | http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/main.php |
| 19:02.07 | mikma | nevcairiel: well i just bought class 10 sd card, it shouldn't be that shlow |
| 19:03.19 | Unkle | Also, RaspberryPI is going to be an excuse to buy Lego. |
| 19:03.28 | kd3 | you need an excuse? |
| 19:04.56 | Gnarfoz | "class 10" really doesn't mean that much |
| 19:05.16 | Gnarfoz | transfer bandwidth is not as relevant as access times, for "snapiness" |
| 19:05.22 | Gnarfoz | snappiness? |
| 19:05.27 | Gnarfoz | snappy...I give up |
| 19:05.28 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 19:05.38 | kd3 | snappiness is correct according to my spellchecker |
| 19:05.54 | nevcairiel | snappiness(sp?) |
| 19:05.54 | batbot | nevcairiel, snappiness is correct. |
| 19:06.03 | nevcairiel | batbot agrees |
| 19:06.15 | Gnarfoz | if batbot thinks it's good enough, I rest easily |
| 19:07.26 | mikma | gnarfoz: kingston sd10v 8gb |
| 19:07.32 | mikma | gnarfoz: shouldn't suck :P |
| 19:07.36 | Gnarfoz | why? |
| 19:07.49 | Gnarfoz | parading around some brand name isn't going to change anything |
| 19:08.08 | mikma | you know a kingston cards that have sucked? |
| 19:08.11 | mikma | i know i donät |
| 19:08.13 | mikma | don't |
| 19:08.21 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 19:08.34 | bluspacecow | i thought it was some form of finnish or swedish donut |
| 19:08.38 | bluspacecow | donät |
| 19:08.42 | bluspacecow | so mysterious |
| 19:08.58 | mikma | donitsi |
| 19:09.02 | Gnarfoz | that's not how that works, and you know it |
| 19:09.11 | bluspacecow | i'm imaging that was chocalate and cheese |
| 19:09.21 | Gnarfoz | anyway, can that thing run linux? if so, there's an abundance of tools available to help you figure it out ;) |
| 19:10.00 | mikma | duh |
| 19:10.37 | Gnarfoz | sar, iostat, vmstat, dstat, ipcs, /proc/meminfo, top... meh, there's probably 500 more I've never heard of |
| 19:10.50 | nevcairiel | does that cpu at least have neon? |
| 19:10.51 | mikma | linux is currently about the only thing that runs on raspi, lol |
| 19:11.20 | Gnarfoz | why the fuck would I know or care, I just asked :P |
| 19:11.43 | bluspacecow | *sleeps on fisker* |
| 19:11.46 | nevcairiel | wait, its only armv6 too |
| 19:11.48 | nevcairiel | meh slow |
| 19:12.22 | mikma | nebula169: 700 MHz ARM11 ARM1176JZF-S core |
| 19:12.24 | mikma | eh |
| 19:12.33 | mikma | lol tab from paste |
| 19:12.35 | mikma | that's nice |
| 19:12.42 | mikma | nevcairiel: 700 MHz ARM11 ARM1176JZF-S core |
| 19:12.44 | nevcairiel | you need smarter tabbing |
| 19:12.46 | mikma | lol lol lol |
| 19:12.49 | nevcairiel | like, prefer last active |
| 19:13.04 | mikma | some odd character from the page turned your nick into nebula169 |
| 19:13.31 | Gnarfoz | it might have been... a TAB character! |
| 19:13.47 | mikma | the slot doesn't have tab in it |
| 19:13.52 | nevcairiel | but yeah, the ARM11 is only ARMv6, and probably no neon, too bad |
| 19:13.58 | mikma | http://elinux.org/RPi_Hardware |
| 19:16.54 | pompy | Torhal|work: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-07-18-torchlight-2-dev-explains-whats-taking-so-long |
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| 19:26.26 | kd3 | oh, wow. wtf |
| 19:26.35 | *** join/#wowuidev Zyn- (~skreeee@h187n4-av-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 19:26.36 | kd3 | chrome still does not trust blizz's ssl cert |
| 19:27.14 | cogwheel | works for me... |
| 19:27.41 | *** join/#wowuidev cbreak|evil (~cbreak@217-162-236-119.dynamic.hispeed.ch) |
| 19:27.45 | Gnarfoz | which one, kd3 |
| 19:27.48 | Gnarfoz | (what domain) |
| 19:28.00 | kd3 | us.battle.net |
| 19:28.21 | Lopeppeppy | Blizzard has shifty eyes. Hodor. |
| 19:28.33 | kd3 | and I don't get it. it's signed by digicert and it's shown in the cert manager |
| 19:28.39 | kd3 | fires up fx instead |
| 19:29.07 | cogwheel | board's green for me in chrome on us.battle.net |
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| 19:30.42 | Gnarfoz | sounds like someone's mitm'ing you or you're not accessing the same server :P |
| 19:30.44 | nevcairiel | chrome uses the OSes cert store, i though |
| 19:30.51 | nevcairiel | +t |
| 19:31.23 | Gnarfoz | then that's probably where he looked! :P |
| 19:31.40 | Gnarfoz | us.battle.net doesn't even want to talk TLS to me :F |
| 19:32.01 | Gnarfoz | alright, after logging in and navigating away from the landing page it does |
| 19:32.03 | nevcairiel | works for me, even a extended validation certificate |
| 19:32.07 | Gnarfoz | and then, EV cert |
| 19:32.24 | *** join/#wowuidev Motig (~Motig@g90028.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 19:33.44 | Gnarfoz | you sure you're connecting to 12.129.242.40? |
| 19:34.51 | nevcairiel | it even has a reverse dns to us.battle.net ,) |
| 19:34.53 | Gnarfoz | (entirely unncessary, but tidy) |
| 19:36.22 | Gnarfoz | however, their tls setup does seem weird when looked at with openssl s_client |
| 19:37.13 | Gnarfoz | first, it spams 3 times the site certificate info (not even sure what that part after "CONNECTED" and the first --- represents); then the certificate chain looks wrong. |
| 19:37.50 | Gnarfoz | their cert is signed by DigiCert High Assurance EV CA-1, but the next cert in the chain that they present is DigiCert High Assurance CA-3. after that, the chain looks normal. |
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| 19:38.56 | Gnarfoz | maybe the issuing CA for their cert has an SubjectAltName record that makes this valid, but that'd be the first time I've seen such a setup o_o |
| 19:39.27 | nevcairiel | the only cert in the chain i see there is the DigiCert root certificate, which also says EV |
| 19:39.39 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 19:39.47 | nevcairiel | nothing in between |
| 19:39.55 | Gnarfoz | so you do see all 3 certs in the chain |
| 19:39.56 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 19:40.03 | nevcairiel | no, 2 |
| 19:40.11 | nevcairiel | the root, and the one issued to blizzard |
| 19:40.23 | Gnarfoz | *derp*? :o |
| 19:40.39 | Gnarfoz | maybe they're indeed sending different things at different times? ^^ |
| 19:41.08 | TC-Work | I get nothing with chrome at battle.net either |
| 19:41.17 | TC-Work | even after logging in |
| 19:41.23 | Gnarfoz | yes, go to account management |
| 19:41.27 | Gnarfoz | it'll switch then |
| 19:41.28 | nevcairiel | maybe they send two chains, in case a browser doesnt like the high-security EV cert? |
| 19:41.37 | nevcairiel | i dunno if thats valid :p |
| 19:41.40 | Gnarfoz | they can't really know beforehand |
| 19:42.20 | Gnarfoz | except if they somehow tacked that info onto your session, which would be an extremly ugly hack :P |
| 19:42.22 | nevcairiel | anyhow, looks just fine in chrome! |
| 19:42.41 | nevcairiel | except they suck |
| 19:42.46 | Gnarfoz | what was the dark pastie again |
| 19:42.51 | nevcairiel | and include insecure resources on their secure page |
| 19:43.02 | nevcairiel | which makes chrome not show the green EV Button |
| 19:43.05 | Gnarfoz | where? |
| 19:43.10 | Gnarfoz | and that's by design ^^ |
| 19:43.21 | nevcairiel | i'm on the main index page |
| 19:43.23 | nevcairiel | https://us.battle.net/d3/en/ eg |
| 19:43.57 | nevcairiel | not sure what exactly triggers it |
| 19:44.13 | Gnarfoz | that one doesn't even talk TLS to me |
| 19:44.19 | nevcairiel | works fine here |
| 19:44.20 | Gnarfoz | switches back to plain http |
| 19:44.28 | nevcairiel | not even logged in |
| 19:44.40 | Gnarfoz | ah, well, it downgrades when coming from account management and clicking the link |
| 19:44.51 | Gnarfoz | but manually entering it makes it talk TLS but show mixed content bleh |
| 19:45.10 | nevcairiel | maybe the flash thingy |
| 19:45.17 | nevcairiel | most resources seem to use relative path |
| 19:45.20 | Gnarfoz | The page at https://us.battle.net/d3/en/ displayed insecure content from http://us.media5.battle.net/cms/blog_thumbnail/U9WCWZBI9XY61340755625267.jpg. |
| 19:45.31 | Gnarfoz | the chrome console shows it ;p |
| 19:45.36 | nevcairiel | oh, the image carousel |
| 19:45.59 | nevcairiel | yeah i didnt bother checking the console :) |
| 19:45.59 | Gnarfoz | and the ads, as usual |
| 19:46.09 | Gnarfoz | [blocked] The page at https://us.battle.net/d3/en/ ran insecure content from http://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/conversion.js. |
| 19:46.20 | Gnarfoz | in any case |
| 19:46.27 | Gnarfoz | what's that dark themed pastie page again? :| |
| 19:46.32 | Gnarfoz | I like it, but I can never recall its name :D |
| 19:49.04 | Gnarfoz | anyway |
| 19:49.05 | Gnarfoz | https://gist.github.com/3138420 |
| 19:49.11 | Gnarfoz | this is what openssl saw for me |
| 19:49.40 | Gnarfoz | (see how the issuer on the first (their site cert) differs from the subject of the one after it in the chain? that shouldn't happen and should fail validation.) |
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| 19:50.47 | nevcairiel | when i look at the chain in chrome, it properly shows CN = DigiCert High Assurance EV CA-1 |
| 19:52.02 | nevcairiel | who knows what its doing |
| 19:55.03 | nicoli_s | why does it even check, it should just trust computers, they done lie |
| 19:55.44 | Arrowmaster | haha the sensitivity buttons on my mx518 still work when plugged into my nexus7 |
| 19:55.50 | Arrowmaster | dont try it on high |
| 19:56.00 | Kaylin | blames md5 |
| 19:56.52 | nevcairiel | nicoli_s: no they dont, but because they have no concept of lies, they believe everything their owner tells them, and repeat that to the world :p |
| 19:57.30 | Kaylin | owner is a misleading word. |
| 19:59.03 | Unkle | No, the real problem is that computers can't reason. They only have their inputs and programmed responses. :P |
| 19:59.40 | Unkle | You know, like politicians. |
| 19:59.40 | Dagmar | That's _Weird_. |
| 19:59.48 | Kaylin | idk would you really enjoy a computer that could reason? computer: I don't think that's a good idea. |
| 19:59.56 | Dagmar | I just pulled bnet's cert chain and it doesn't show the desync in your pastebin |
| 20:00.04 | Unkle | Hey, HAL 9000 was AWESOME |
| 20:00.04 | Stanzilla | did you guys know that chrome shows your passwords when you tell it to? |
| 20:00.17 | Dagmar | Stanzilla: You can pull them out of Chrome as well |
| 20:00.23 | Dagmar | er Firefox |
| 20:00.38 | Kaylin | of course you can, how else would it remember them |
| 20:00.51 | Dagmar | Exactly. |
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| 20:01.12 | Dagmar | Gnarfoz: I mean there's probably some load-balancing going on, but as far as I know the bit you pasted shoudln't have been considered valid |
| 20:01.24 | mckenziemc | remembers when someone posted a link to some fool's blog post saying browser should store them as hashes |
| 20:01.51 | Dagmar | I see their EV CA-1 cert in there like nev |
| 20:01.52 | Kaylin | lol how would you get them back, but yes that's the point everybody else made I suppose |
| 20:02.39 | Gnarfoz | <nevcairiel> when i look at the chain in chrome, it properly shows CN = DigiCert High Assurance EV CA-1 <-- same here, but then my Chrome runs on my windows box, openssl on my linux server =D and who the hell knows what kind of aussie stuff kd3 is running :P |
| 20:02.41 | Dagmar | They're probably tied to the squirrely hash with the CN as window dressing |
| 20:03.15 | Dagmar | I'd just dump the certs entirely and look carefully, but screw it. That's a good 15 minutes of staring at hex to figure it out |
| 20:03.52 | Gnarfoz | they probably have a misconfigured server in their pool somewhere |
| 20:03.57 | Dagmar | I've got a half-dozen remote SSL checkers bookmarked here for a reason |
| 20:04.27 | Gnarfoz | remote ssl checkers are a dime a dozen, yet, I only know of one that handles SubjectAltName properly. |
| 20:04.48 | Dagmar | <-- got tasked with fixing the WTF-factor with our GeoTrust certs that were coming up as untrusted in older phones |
| 20:04.50 | Gnarfoz | or they're actually doing what nev said earlier, trying to send different clients different things |
| 20:05.00 | Gnarfoz | fuck older phones |
| 20:05.01 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 20:05.02 | Dagmar | HOURS of time blown with adb iteratively testing and looking at keystores |
| 20:05.19 | TC-Work | Gnarfoz: kd3 is not aussie... |
| 20:05.20 | Dagmar | If any of you get stuck like that, the answer is "All roads lead to Equifax" |
| 20:05.26 | Gnarfoz | TC-Work: is not? kiwi? |
| 20:05.31 | TC-Work | nope |
| 20:05.35 | Gnarfoz | since when :o |
| 20:05.43 | TC-Work | he was born i would imagine |
| 20:05.50 | Stanzilla | wonders if mckenziemc got the trolling |
| 20:05.56 | Gnarfoz | he certainly was, else he wouldn't be here |
| 20:05.58 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:06.21 | kd3 | I live west of atlanta |
| 20:06.27 | Stanzilla | in the woods |
| 20:06.27 | Gnarfoz | how old a phone, though, Dagmar? I recall <2.1 Android not even supporting chain certificates or something? |
| 20:06.27 | kd3 | "Hail Atlanta!" |
| 20:06.59 | Dagmar | No, it does... It doesn't support storing custom certs tho |
| 20:07.14 | Dagmar | So... if your CA isn't listed you have to approve the operation every single time |
| 20:07.28 | Gnarfoz | ah, obnoxious |
| 20:07.35 | Dagmar | We felt that perhaps alumni giving us money might be a bit put off by creepy warnings out of their phones |
| 20:07.36 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I remember that |
| 20:07.53 | Gnarfoz | couldn't alumni afford newer phones? :P hehe |
| 20:07.55 | Gnarfoz | nah |
| 20:07.57 | Dagmar | About a day and a half later I'd figured out how to make an intermediate chain |
| 20:08.15 | Dagmar | Hey you can get newer phones all you like, it still doesn't mean the cell carrier is going to update them in a timely fashion. |
| 20:08.21 | kd3 | ah, yah, yuck. I think I resorted to rolling my own verification chain and telling it to just accept anything I throw at it for certain domains |
| 20:08.40 | Dagmar | ...which is why I've been sitting here figuring out how to flash EL29 and FF18 onto my GS2 |
| 20:08.40 | kd3 | yay horribly insecure, but good for testing with self-signed certs |
| 20:08.44 | Gnarfoz | layer 8 error? |
| 20:09.12 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: so i just tried on my linux box as well, and openssl says it doesnt trust us.battle.net, however eu.battle.net it trusts just fine :p |
| 20:09.20 | Gnarfoz | Dagmar: pfff, US cellphone madness. Carriers don't "make" or "update" phones here, yay! |
| 20:09.33 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: that sounds perfectly alright, doesn't it?! :D |
| 20:09.47 | Dagmar | nevcariel: openssl s_client -showcerts -connect www.battle.net:443 > certchain.txt |
| 20:10.12 | nevcairiel | i get the same odd CA-3 cert Gnarfoz got |
| 20:10.15 | Dagmar | You'll have to ^C out of it of course because openssl seems to lack a --justfuckingexit argument |
| 20:10.32 | Gnarfoz | or you just do what you're supposed to do: make a http request? :P |
| 20:10.33 | Dagmar | Yeah it's probably giving you a different IP to connect to based on source IP of the DNS query |
| 20:10.50 | Dagmar | ...which means you'd be talking to a different load-balancer. |
| 20:10.58 | Gnarfoz | we already ruled that out at the beginning |
| 20:11.11 | nevcairiel | i get 12.129.242.40 for the IP, no idea what happens after that hop |
| 20:11.15 | Gnarfoz | well, for us.battle.net, that is |
| 20:11.26 | Dagmar | Well, since we're seeing different certs either hte Chinese have rooted Blizz's routers, or it's definitely going through load-balancers |
| 20:11.35 | Gnarfoz | eu.battle.net *is* another IP, but nev only now started talking about that one :P |
| 20:11.46 | Gnarfoz | it is, but it's not going through different ones |
| 20:11.50 | nevcairiel | i just tested it to confirm that my cert validator works in general |
| 20:12.00 | Gnarfoz | (at least not for us.battle.net. unless anycast is involved. then all bets are off, anyway.) |
| 20:12.20 | Dagmar | I'm not sure anycast would be a great idea in that environment |
| 20:13.02 | Gnarfoz | it's obviously unnecessary, since they already separate it at the DNS level |
| 20:13.03 | Torhal|work | formats Gnarfoz and installs Amarande 2.0. |
| 20:13.04 | Dagmar | ethergeddon just waiting to happen |
| 20:13.06 | Unkle | Student worker at front desk is reading "Game of Thrones" - the first novel. Hard not to spoil things when they start asking questions. |
| 20:13.19 | Dagmar | Answer: "They're all whores" |
| 20:13.25 | kd3 | ^ |
| 20:13.37 | Gnarfoz | Torhal|work: you're going to regret this when, suddenly, I'll wake you at 4am and start a monologue about America's 1%. |
| 20:13.38 | Dagmar | Just be glad they're not reading Fifty Shades of Fap |
| 20:13.46 | Torhal|work | Gnarfoz: Ahahahahahaha |
| 20:14.11 | Torhal|work | Gnarfoz: Fine, I'll do it to Stanzilla then. |
| 20:14.17 | TC-Work | Dagmar: interestingly if you change that to us.battle.net:443 you do indeed see CA-1 and CA-3 |
| 20:14.20 | Stanzilla | Torhal|work: waat |
| 20:14.22 | Unkle | Heh… At least those people are reading. I might not like what they're reading, but they're in the small percentage of people who actually READ. |
| 20:14.34 | Dagmar | TC-Work; Yeah, so probably LTMs doing load-balancing then. |
| 20:14.50 | Dagmar | Weird that they even bothered to get different certs, unless they're trying to stagger the expiration dates |
| 20:15.02 | Dagmar | GeoTrust just gives us one cert, which we pay for twice. |
| 20:15.03 | Gnarfoz | well, we weren't talking about www.battle.net to begin with. it was always us.battle.net :P |
| 20:15.05 | Dagmar | Very nice of them |
| 20:15.49 | Dagmar | Also, their docs on the intermediate chain problem vary in quality from "entirely wrong" to "fucking uselessly wrong" |
| 20:16.10 | Dagmar | One of them tells you how to build an intermediate chain, but links to the wrong fucking chain at one point |
| 20:16.31 | Dagmar | Anotehr one tells you about it, but doesn't tell you where to get them or how to assemble them (which turns out to just be concatenation) |
| 20:17.08 | Dagmar | Another one of their pages is especially exciting because you get halfway through it before you realize they're talking about freaking browser certs which are a different animal entirely. |
| 20:17.33 | Gnarfoz | Dagmar: they're not different certs, actually. both times, it's the same site cert. just the chain after the first cert differs. so it's higly likely someone just fucked up the configuration on one of the backend servers ^^ |
| 20:17.52 | Dagmar | You'd think they'd have the sense to say 'Unless your are a customer of our $browser_validation_product this is not the documentatin you are looking for" |
| 20:18.15 | Dagmar | Gnarfoz: Actually, you might want to email them about that |
| 20:18.41 | Dagmar | The browser won't carp if the intermediate chain is insane, so long as it's trusted CA store can still find a path to the final cert |
| 20:19.01 | Dagmar | Someone _probably_ screwed up updating one of their LTMs |
| 20:19.06 | Gnarfoz | and since they're (at least claiming to be) running Apache, which takes the chain starting from step 2 as a separate config parameter (SSLCertificateChainFile I think?), someone probably forgot to swap that out once |
| 20:19.52 | Gnarfoz | not sure who to mail about that, tbh |
| 20:20.21 | Gnarfoz | adminwhomissedoneserversconfig@blizzard.com - that'll probably get me the right guy if their mailservers are running "Magic 7.1" |
| 20:21.12 | Dagmar | I just checked to be sure, yeah that's the right option for giving it an intermediate chain |
| 20:21.41 | mckenziemc | Stanzilla: if it really was, then no :/ |
| 20:23.08 | Dagmar | Gnarfoz: Hmm... Might as well use the gm@ address, since the DNS contact is buried behind Netsol's wall o' secrecy |
| 20:23.42 | Dagmar | I kinda doubt abuse@ gets read |
| 20:23.43 | Gnarfoz | I don't even have any Apaches anymore who serve TLS and I know that off hand? omg I'm a nerd |
| 20:24.03 | Gnarfoz | unread abuse@ is grounds for termination of a domain :D |
| 20:24.34 | Gnarfoz | not that I've heard of anyone suffering that fate because of it, but IIRC it's somewhere deep down in the terms :F |
| 20:24.51 | TC-Work | so it seems the new X-Com FPS game is here....i wonder if i can wragle some playing time on it. |
| 20:24.54 | Gnarfoz | maybe "jobs@blizzard.com" is the right one p |
| 20:24.55 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 20:25.04 | Dagmar | I dunno about "unread" but it does have to _accept_ mail, by RFC. |
| 20:25.13 | Dagmar | They just failed to say someone has to read it |
| 20:25.28 | Gnarfoz | or that |
| 20:25.40 | Gnarfoz | info-en |
| 20:25.44 | Gnarfoz | hehehe |
| 20:26.13 | Dagmar | lol |
| 20:26.29 | Dagmar | Just got off the phone with netsec... They got a report that my machine had encountered some malware |
| 20:26.46 | Dagmar | "Why yes, I did download some malware." |
| 20:27.15 | Dagmar | It wasn't like I was planning on _running it_ or anything |
| 20:27.40 | Dagmar | Hadda tell the guy "Just ask Erin about me. He'll fill you in." |
| 20:29.52 | Dagmar | I don't need my machine cleaned or reimaged over something I downloaded with wget32. I'm really damn sure it doesn't execute the things it downloads |
| 20:30.40 | Dagmar | If soeone's going to the trouble of spearphishing me, I don't want to spoil the suprise by downloading it from an off-campus location |
| 20:34.29 | mckenziemc | o.O |
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| 20:49.12 | Dagmar | mckenziemc: The thing you should worry about is that I only get a call about half the time from them |
| 20:49.40 | Dagmar | I may just *have* to transfer into that department in another year |
| 20:50.00 | Dagmar | Trying to get them to have the IDS watch for hostname lookups that return 127.0.0.1 was far harder than it shoudl have been |
| 20:50.37 | Dagmar | Spearfishing *me* is the worst move any of those people could make |
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| 20:58.45 | Primer | Dagmar: context? |
| 20:59.10 | Dagmar | THe hilarity of my complete unconcern about having downloaded malware |
| 20:59.43 | Dagmar | I could tell after about ten seconds the guy had *no* idea what to do about my response |
| 21:00.00 | Dagmar | Usually folks are all "oh my gosh yes when can someone get here to clean it off" |
| 21:00.05 | mckenziemc | i'm curious though, why did you download it |
| 21:00.13 | Dagmar | Because I was spearfished. |
| 21:00.20 | mckenziemc | oh, baiting? |
| 21:00.21 | kd3 | rofl |
| 21:00.35 | mckenziemc | and i don't know what you mean by spearfishing |
| 21:00.46 | Dagmar | If it were someone just buying a list of addresses it would be one thing, but this one only seems to have been sent to IT employees |
| 21:00.59 | Dagmar | Email targeting certain people. |
| 21:01.07 | Dagmar | Hence the spear- part. |
| 21:01.24 | Primer | So phishing, but targeted |
| 21:01.26 | kd3 | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/spearphishing |
| 21:01.28 | mckenziemc | oh, i see |
| 21:01.33 | Primer | And you were targeted because... |
| 21:01.35 | Dagmar | If they're going to go to that trouble, eventually someone's going to manage to nail the email client I can't do anything about, which will make me angry |
| 21:01.40 | Dagmar | Because I'm a unix admin |
| 21:01.57 | Dagmar | ...which makes no sense considering the windows admins are much more numerous and not nearly as paranoid |
| 21:02.26 | Dagmar | ...but since I expect to eventually have the crap email client compromised, I am simply taking my revenge in advance. I download the malware, take it apart, and then go make sure that shit is blocked at the perimiter |
| 21:02.37 | Primer | So somehow someone detected that you downloaded the malware? How was this achieved? Deep packet inspection at the border? |
| 21:02.39 | Dagmar | ...and maybe submit it to a bunch of scanning engines as wel. |
| 21:02.44 | Unkle | I often feel that everyone around me is insufficiently paranoid. |
| 21:02.56 | mckenziemc | lol Unkle |
| 21:02.59 | Dagmar | Primer: Yes, and reporting from the antivir client on the laptop, which actually sometimes detects things |
| 21:03.12 | Primer | nice |
| 21:03.42 | Dagmar | But basically, since I'm NOT HIGH when I'm answering work email, no bizarre little story is ever going to slip past me |
| 21:04.04 | TC-Work | you are rather defensive when saything that.... |
| 21:04.09 | TC-Work | saying* |
| 21:04.09 | Dagmar | Hell, I actually go find managers and supervisors when John Q. Nobody puts in a request for access on a box and I don't already know about it |
| 21:04.20 | arton | stop bitching and start a revolution |
| 21:04.31 | kd3 | but I am le tired |
| 21:04.34 | Dagmar | TC-Work: Honestly, I don't understand how people can fall for some of these things unless they're just ridiculously high |
| 21:04.39 | Unkle | take ze nap |
| 21:04.50 | Primer | or just ignorant |
| 21:04.54 | Unkle | but then… FIRE ZE MISSILES |
| 21:04.57 | Primer | which is much more likely |
| 21:05.00 | Dagmar | I had one of the Polycom guys tell me I was the first person he'd ever had come back and say "No, I'm not giving you access." |
| 21:05.31 | Primer | Did he also tell you you had to open a bunch of ports on your firewall too? |
| 21:05.35 | TC-Work | Dagmar: there is a world of diff between people wise in the ways of the net, and everyone else |
| 21:05.42 | Dagmar | If a random dude emails me asking for access to a box, and he's not one of our employees, I dont' care if I know they have stuff on campus or not--I'm not giving them access without talking to a supervisor |
| 21:05.45 | TC-Work | I understand it completely |
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| 21:06.10 | Unkle | Dagmar: Yeah, since I create 95% of all the staff/faculty accounts, I get a lot of odd "stories" from people trying to get access. You'd be amazed how shocked people are when I say "No." |
| 21:06.29 | Dagmar | Yeah we catch a few people a year actually trying to get access they shouldn't that way |
| 21:06.42 | Primer | it's one of the oldest tricks in the book |
| 21:06.54 | Primer | social engineering is much more effective than hacking |
| 21:07.05 | nevcairiel | just be self-confident, and you can get by most people |
| 21:07.08 | Dagmar | "I need to be able to access the spreadsheets we have under Marion Chumpy's directory." |
| 21:08.06 | TC-Work | "I just need access to the finanical DB so i can complete my timecard...." |
| 21:08.07 | Unkle | One guy got pretty mad that I wouldn't make them an email account for their "student organization." I pointed out that a) he wasn't a student, and b) he couldn't authorize anything with his signature, c) I have campus cops on speed-dial. Never saw anyone slink away so fast. |
| 21:08.08 | Dagmar | Suuure you do. Not even three months ago we caught someone doing that that shoudln't be. |
| 21:08.11 | Dagmar | They no longer work here. |
| 21:08.27 | TC-Work | financial* |
| 21:08.28 | Dagmar | If the person you're asking about works in HR and *you don't*... LOL. |
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| 21:10.02 | Dagmar | Unkle: Heheh. I like to mention the specific chapter and verse of the USC that they're already in violation of, personally |
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| 21:10.29 | Unkle | Dagmar: I use the Texas State Code, but same thing. |
| 21:10.49 | Dagmar | I'm not sure TN has any laws that woudl be relevant. |
| 21:11.01 | Dagmar | they made it illegal to share netflix passwords and that's about as far as that's gotten |
| 21:11.02 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 21:11.12 | Dagmar | I dunno WTF was up with that. Usually you can trace the money back |
| 21:11.24 | Unkle | An adjunct professor who is a lawyer tried to bully me about giving her access without authorization. I handed her the print out of the law and told her, nicely, that she could go fuck herself. |
| 21:11.54 | Dagmar | Unkle: What's more amusing to me is directly contacting their supervisor. :) |
| 21:12.22 | Dagmar | ...although no one's irked me enough to contact the supervisor of the person they're trying to get snatch files from |
| 21:13.03 | Unkle | Heh. I'm a very helpful guy. I *want* to help you. But my job is also a security sensitive position and I have a duty to protect the systems and network. So I'm vigilant. And I don't bend. Do it right or GTFO. |
| 21:13.05 | Dagmar | This is my way of exercising "discertion" |
| 21:13.08 | Dagmar | er discretion |
| 21:13.29 | durcyn | discretionary spelling, at least |
| 21:13.39 | Dagmar | Contacting their boss, and they're either going to work with me and get it sorted, or possibly just quietly fire that person |
| 21:13.51 | Dagmar | Contact the *other* person's boss and things get more complex |
| 21:14.12 | Unkle | I've had my boss come to me more than once to say I should have bent. I looked at him and said, "that's what you get paid for. You get to decide to break the rules. I get to decide to tell people I can't break the rules." |
| 21:14.22 | Dagmar | Damn straight |
| 21:14.46 | Dagmar | I just tell them that I'm not getting fired over someone else's lunacy |
| 21:15.16 | Dagmar | ...because if I gave access to the wrong person because I didnt' verify things, I would *expect* to be fired |
| 21:15.33 | Unkle | Oh, HR has never heard of you? Because you haven't gotten your offer letter yet? But you need to teach a class in 3 days and you have to train to use the online course system? Great. Come back to me when HR has heard of you. |
| 21:15.33 | TC-Work | I dont even bother saying no, i just pass the buck up and let someone else deal with it. |
| 21:16.16 | Unkle | No, I'll call HR for you. Not a problem. |
| 21:16.25 | Unkle | Oh, really? It can wait? |
| 21:16.25 | Dagmar | Ahhhh... Yeah, for something as non-sensitive as that I'd be calling HR |
| 21:16.34 | Unkle | Why am I not shocked? |
| 21:17.07 | Dagmar | Stuff gets missed here, and it's not like I wouldn't be hoping to hear them squirm |
| 21:17.08 | Unkle | I have a good working relationship with everyone in HR. The direcotr there likes me. |
| 21:17.30 | Dagmar | THe High Inquistor here doesn't like me. |
| 21:17.35 | Dagmar | A shame, really. |
| 21:18.22 | Unkle | I have a better relationship with them than I do my own Senior Director. But that's probably because I accused him of being foolish in my first week here. |
| 21:18.24 | Dagmar | I dont' really have a problem with her, but I don't care for her methods |
| 21:19.22 | Dagmar | There was someone in our group we *all* wanted fired, and when he finally got caught sleeping on the job, she held an inquisition instead of an investigation |
| 21:19.39 | Dagmar | She got real upset that none of us were very cooperative with exact dates on this guy's misbehaviour |
| 21:20.33 | Dagmar | I'm sorry but people working 12-hour shifts that are on-on-off-off-off-on-on-off-off-on-on-on-off-off like a navy schedule are *not* going to be able to remember anything from more than about 72 hours ago that doesn't get their attention |
| 21:20.49 | Dagmar | She thought we were all covering for him. Pfft. |
| 21:21.10 | Dagmar | I told he flat out I couldn't remmeber three days ago, let alone last month |
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| 21:31.30 | Gragagrogog | any1 here good with lua string paterns? i need to replace all "[1]"s to "["..someNumber.."[" in a string... is that even possible with string.gsub ? |
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| 21:31.47 | Gragagrogog | *"["..someNumber.."]" |
| 21:34.03 | TC-Work | sounds like regex to me |
| 21:34.55 | TC-Work | unless that is supposed to be an array |
| 21:35.45 | Gnarfoz | Lua doesn't do regex |
| 21:35.57 | TC-Work | really? huh |
| 21:36.16 | mckenziemc | well it can :p |
| 21:36.17 | Gnarfoz | he had it right, Lua only has "patterns", which doesn't really come near actual regex |
| 21:38.16 | kd3 | haha, wow. http://imgur.com/a/ng9XT |
| 21:39.07 | Unkle | Yes, thank you GreenPeace. |
| 21:39.09 | nicoli_s | haha |
| 21:40.10 | Torhal|work | The smallest regex library is bigger than all of Lua itself. |
| 21:42.11 | mckenziemc | old Torhal|work |
| 21:42.21 | Torhal|work | ages mckenziemc 1,000 years. |
| 21:42.23 | Torhal|work | old mckenziemc |
| 21:42.33 | mckenziemc | still nowhere as old as you |
| 21:42.59 | Torhal|work | No shit. How do you think I had the ability to age you? |
| 21:44.22 | Dagmar | Oh I'm sure there's some reduced-functionality regexp engines out there. |
| 21:44.36 | cogwheel | kd3: bam! http://jalopnik.com/5927069/attention-this-shell-arctic-ready-website-is-also-a-hoax |
| 21:46.13 | kd3 | heh |
| 21:53.23 | nicoli_s | why is that on a blog about cars? |
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| 21:59.14 | TC-Work | Shell |
| 22:03.30 | nicoli_s | ahh that makes sense |
| 22:08.14 | Dagmar | *sigh* |
| 22:08.32 | Dagmar | Just got a request to apply a "publicly signed" certificate to a _test server_ with a test server name. |
| 22:09.42 | znf | Dagmar, do it |
| 22:09.53 | Dagmar | I think I'm going to have to request their webserver not continue to cough up nothing but internal errors before I even ask wtf they mean |
| 22:10.24 | Dagmar | ...or rather, I'll just go ahead and forward the request to the department head with a reminder that we're talking about $300 |
| 22:10.38 | Dagmar | ...because it would mean buying two, 2-year certs. |
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| 22:33.03 | zenzelezz | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2175053/Dont-f-k-peoples-food-Burger-King-employee-posted-pictures-standing-bins-lettuce-hunted-vigilante-website-users-fired.html |
| 22:33.15 | zenzelezz | have people not learned not to mess with 4chan yet? |
| 22:35.02 | TC-Work | no, no they have not |
| 22:35.30 | Amarande | zenz: You don't tug on Superman's cape, you don't spit into the wind, you don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger and you don't mess around with 'Chan? |
| 22:35.46 | mckenziemc | kills Amarande |
| 22:36.21 | Amarande | is glad PvP deaths don't cost item durability. |
| 22:37.16 | mckenziemc | this is RL |
| 22:39.44 | zenzelezz | also, I'm getting tired of basejumpers going off and dying from our mountains, even if it is just once a year. This one was actually jumping from an allowed area, but still |
| 22:40.44 | Amarande | zenz: jumper error or parachute failure? |
| 22:41.41 | zenzelezz | unknown so far. He hit the mountain after about four seconds they say, didn't get very far. All I've read so far say "he was found under his parachute" |
| 22:42.16 | Gnarfoz | Dagmar: $300 for a fucking certificate? you're using the wrong cert dealer |
| 22:42.24 | Gnarfoz | (almost all of them are wrong, hehe) |
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| 22:48.47 | xyphoid | zenzelezz: was that the nz guy |
| 22:49.02 | zenzelezz | no, south-American. They think Brazil |
| 22:56.36 | Primer | fucking Brazilians... |
| 22:57.01 | cogwheel | i hear they burn |
| 22:58.56 | Primer | burn...weed? Forests? Well? |
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| 23:00.00 | cogwheel | wax |
| 23:00.24 | Primer | I'm being coy...I'm actually Brazilian |
| 23:00.52 | cogwheel | and i'm just trying to make a pun but it was too subtle... >< |
| 23:01.20 | Primer | Brazilian bikini waxing? |
| 23:01.24 | cogwheel | *nod* |
| 23:01.36 | Primer | yeah, it was rather obscure |
| 23:01.43 | cogwheel | i do that a lot |
| 23:01.54 | Primer | Ala 40 year old virgin? |
| 23:01.58 | Primer | Or do you have a vagina? |
| 23:02.03 | cogwheel | being obscure |
| 23:02.05 | cogwheel | XD |
| 23:02.22 | Primer | I would do it if I had a vagina |
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| 23:06.49 | znf | Primer, you're brazilian? :-| |
| 23:06.54 | znf | Why are brazilians so bad? |
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| 23:07.48 | Unkle | A Brazillian wax? Because ripping your pubic hair out with hot wax and a cloth is fucking insane? No matter how great it makes you look in a bikini. |
| 23:07.49 | Primer | I don't know |
| 23:08.13 | znf | no, I mean, in Online games |
| 23:08.14 | Primer | But I've run into them in 5 mans |
| 23:08.18 | Primer | and fuck, are they annoying |
| 23:08.27 | Primer | I have a DK named Kaká |
| 23:08.34 | znf | when a game/server is full of brazilians, it's time to /quit |
| 23:08.40 | Primer | so I'm pretty readily identified as Brazilian in LFR and 5 mans |
| 23:08.56 | Primer | and Bgs, even, as Goldrin's in my battlegroup |
| 23:08.58 | znf | Poor choice of name! |
| 23:09.20 | Primer | znf: meh, most non-Americans know who Kaká is |
| 23:09.23 | Unkle | I used to run WotLK content with a guild of Brazillians. They were a riot. |
| 23:10.24 | Primer | But I hear what you're saying. Most Brazilian I've ever grouped with were either bad, or typed too much in /s instead of doing their jobs |
| 23:12.06 | TC-Work | I really do want to punch the shit out of adobe right now |
| 23:12.20 | zenzelezz | how come? |
| 23:12.49 | TC-Work | as far as i can tell, they refuse to let you download older versions of a product |
| 23:13.01 | zenzelezz | hm |
| 23:16.17 | znf | TC-Work, yup |
| 23:16.22 | znf | I tried last night to download PS 5.5 |
| 23:16.33 | znf | Ended up torrenting it :-/ |
| 23:22.33 | zenzelezz | so you actually have a 5.5 licence since you were trying to download it off their site? |
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| 23:30.31 | TC-Work | zenzelezz: it hardly matters if it is legit or not, the point is that they dont offer it. |
| 23:30.43 | zenzelezz | I agree, I was just curious |
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