| 00:02.06 | Stanzilla | Gragagrogog: what's the best way to name it? just chi? |
| 00:02.22 | Gragagrogog | i think so... its called chi in beta client... |
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| 00:02.52 | zenzelezz | if you want to be creative, try something like enerchi |
| 00:03.02 | Gragagrogog | or "chi power" |
| 00:04.39 | Gragagrogog | "Chi (Monk Power)" |
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| 00:20.14 | Amarande | wow buzzard wings are worth some crazy expensive bank on Ysera Alliance |
| 00:20.16 | Amarande | I'm still not sure why |
| 00:30.53 | Gragagrogog | why the f. they made GetNumGroupMembers() return something else than 0 even when the player is not in raid... |
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| 00:33.13 | Gragagrogog | now i have to check the logic each time instead of just replacing the old func.... |
| 00:38.15 | foxlit | Gragagrogog: it returns 0 for me. |
| 00:39.20 | Gragagrogog | it returns 2 if u are in party with another person |
| 00:39.50 | Gragagrogog | 0 if alone |
| 00:40.04 | foxlit | that sounds fine to me. |
| 00:41.26 | Kaylin | 0 if not in a group, what does it return if you're solo in a raid finder/dungeon finder group since you are in fact still grouped? 1 then? |
| 00:42.19 | Gragagrogog | no then its 25/40/15 the correct size of raid group |
| 00:42.33 | Kaylin | ah |
| 00:42.56 | Gragagrogog | both getnumgroupmembers and getnumsubgroupmembers can take one aditional parameter... |
| 00:43.22 | Gragagrogog | to specify if ure checking "instance" group or "realù group |
| 00:44.32 | Gragagrogog | but most developers used GetNumRaidMembers() > 0 to check if the player is in raid.... its no big deal but just an inconvinience... |
| 00:45.02 | foxlit | Kaylin: I would presume it returns 1, but verifying that is a bit tricky. |
| 00:45.17 | Stanzilla | Gragagrogog: what are you doing? WA stuff? |
| 00:45.38 | Gragagrogog | iam trying to revive hermes |
| 00:45.55 | Kaylin | wuzzat? |
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| 00:46.26 | Gragagrogog | an addon showing availible/actice/cd of raid cooldowns |
| 00:47.18 | Stanzilla | ah ok |
| 00:47.23 | Stanzilla | thought I missed something in WA :p |
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| 00:48.31 | Gragagrogog | i think there is some bug with group auras duration "<" or "<=" |
| 00:49.43 | Gragagrogog | and one think that could be considered bug... if u have an animation display already showed and the trigger returns true, the animation resets |
| 00:50.45 | Gragagrogog | but thats avoidable with custom triggering with WA.ScanEvents() |
| 00:51.34 | Stanzilla | meh |
| 01:04.41 | TC-OWork | well, i'm up to $63 on the steam 'sale' already. |
| 01:04.47 | TC-OWork | and it's only day 2 >.< |
| 01:05.12 | foxlit | $5 |
| 01:05.32 | foxlit | what was worth buying? |
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| 01:07.47 | TC-OWork | L.A. Noir, Ass creed, civ V dlc's and some other few things |
| 01:08.52 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Seerah -> http://pastebin.com || 4.3.x ToC: 40300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || MoP Beta UI/API Changes forum: http://bit.ly/GMjEVC. Feel free to post what you find! || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || MoP Beta Keys! http://bit.ly/MNsc0R or http://bit.ly/LNg7Yk || AddOns enabled on Beta! |
| 01:09.09 | foxlit | mm, relevations would've been interesting |
| 01:09.13 | foxlit | but Ubisoft. |
| 01:15.39 | TC-OWork | I have never had that much of an issue with their DRM myself |
| 01:17.09 | foxlit | I kind of bought From Dust a while ago |
| 01:17.19 | foxlit | had to sign up for a ubisoft account to play a single player game |
| 01:17.26 | foxlit | it'd authenticate online, despite steam. |
| 01:17.49 | foxlit | and then their launcher would just hang there after quitting the game, saving things to cloud. |
| 01:22.39 | TC-OWork | the only time i ever had an issue with their DRM was with settlers and it was my funky local network settings breaking it |
| 01:22.58 | TC-OWork | on the other hand, the settings didnt break anything else |
| 01:23.20 | zenzelezz | Assassin's Creed is one of the few games I prefer on consoles. Primarily because AC1 felt so utterly consoleish and difficult to navigate on PC (especially when sprinting) |
| 01:28.36 | Stanzilla | I nearly killed a guys when I had to play AC on a xbox |
| 01:28.40 | Stanzilla | -s |
| 01:28.50 | zenzelezz | how come? |
| 01:29.16 | Stanzilla | because the guy never ran the way he was supposed to be :P |
| 01:29.39 | zenzelezz | interesting. To me it was the other way aruond |
| 01:29.42 | zenzelezz | *around |
| 01:30.25 | kd3 | eesh. 33 hours to go on the beta build |
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| 01:31.38 | foxlit | http://imgur.com/3XLYo |
| 01:31.50 | foxlit | that is terrifyingly unpronounceable. |
| 01:37.49 | TC-OWork | in english that would more or less be G00gle |
| 01:38.32 | Seerah | http://pastebin.com || 4.3.x ToC: 40300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || MoP Beta UI/API Changes forum: http://bit.ly/GMjEVC. Feel free to post what you find! || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || MoP Beta Keys! http://bit.ly/MNsc0R or http://bit.ly/LNg7Yk || AddOns enabled on Beta: http://bit.ly/LPIECd |
| 01:38.41 | Seerah | ha! oops >< |
| 01:38.58 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Seerah -> http://pastebin.com || 4.3.x ToC: 40300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || MoP Beta UI/API Changes forum: http://bit.ly/GMjEVC. Feel free to post what you find! || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || MoP Beta Keys! http://bit.ly/MNsc0R or http://bit.ly/LNg7Yk || AddOns enabled on Beta: http://bit.ly/LPIECd |
| 01:39.05 | Seerah | sorry :( |
| 01:39.47 | Seerah | oh, and click the request sticky button - I apparently can only do it once :p http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6036886559 |
| 01:45.41 | TC-OWork | I'm surprised you can even do it to your own post. |
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| 02:15.18 | pompy | hmm Metro 2033 or Bioshock 2 |
| 02:16.04 | Stanzilla | I have both :o |
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| 02:16.37 | TC-OWork | i went for fear becuase thats the one i dont have |
| 02:16.54 | Stanzilla | same |
| 02:17.34 | TC-OWork | also bejeweled 3 is up for $5, and well worth it if you like casual games. |
| 02:18.48 | pompy | yeah i have bejeweled 3 already :) |
| 02:19.22 | pompy | Metro 2033 looks cool |
| 02:19.27 | foxlit | I've decided I do not like Bejeweled |
| 02:19.51 | foxlit | As a concept, since that game is perfectly capable of cheating on your behalf. |
| 02:21.48 | karl_w_w | is there a wintergrasp/tol barad equivalent in mists? |
| 02:21.54 | karl_w_w | any world pvp you queue for |
| 02:22.24 | mckenziemc | ganks karl_w_w. |
| 02:23.05 | karl_w_w | in other news, more importantly i guess, if you have a mists beta key do you need an active wow sub to use it? |
| 02:23.51 | mckenziemc | give me your key and i'll test it on my extra b.net account ;) |
| 02:24.06 | karl_w_w | don't be silly |
| 02:25.30 | pompy | no karl_w_w |
| 02:31.03 | karl_w_w | http://delimiter.com.au/2012/07/13/qantas-deploys-2200-ipads-to-pilots/ |
| 02:32.15 | Amarande | karl: to be followed by "the crash Sunday occurred apparently because the pilot was busy playing Angry Birds during turbulence?" |
| 02:32.31 | karl_w_w | :P |
| 02:32.50 | karl_w_w | my first thought was "yeah, and when the ipad stops working mid-flight?" |
| 02:34.00 | karl_w_w | "this is the captain speaking, I'm sorry but I don't remember what my altitude is supposed to be here and the ipad has stopped working. now would be a good time to pray to your god" |
| 02:41.30 | pompy | nice http://www.lambentstew.com/webblog/miniproject/steamanalysis |
| 02:48.12 | karl_w_w | that cant be right |
| 02:48.20 | karl_w_w | it says arrowmaster has never played portal 2 |
| 02:53.38 | pompy | aww shit http://store.steampowered.com/app/211420/ |
| 02:54.46 | karl_w_w | http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/553164_493500464012745_380967689_n.jpg |
| 02:54.55 | pompy | karl_w_w: he bought it but hasnt played it..? |
| 02:55.19 | karl_w_w | why would anyone do that |
| 02:58.07 | pompy | iknorite |
| 03:02.01 | Kaylin | did he get orange box |
| 03:02.06 | Kaylin | and just play like part of it say tf2 |
| 03:04.27 | pompy | huh portal 2 isnt in the orange box. |
| 03:04.30 | pompy | portal 1 is ;) |
| 03:04.39 | Kaylin | oh |
| 03:04.40 | Kaylin | right |
| 03:04.57 | pompy | he's played 0.8 hrs of portal 1! |
| 03:06.57 | Ackis | Ackis | Games Owned: 541 | Percentage Played: 35.86 |
| 03:07.28 | pompy | lol |
| 03:10.11 | pompy | lua> 541*.3586 |
| 03:10.11 | lua_bot | pompy: 194.0026 |
| 03:10.15 | pompy | lua> (541-(541*.3586)) |
| 03:10.15 | lua_bot | pompy: 346.9974 |
| 03:10.20 | pompy | get to work Ackis! |
| 03:12.08 | pompy | Ackis: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Ackis/games?tab=all says 541 .. but on your profile it says 863 .. guess it counts dlc and such |
| 03:12.11 | pompy | weird |
| 03:14.22 | Ackis | stalker |
| 03:14.35 | pompy | :\ |
| 03:14.56 | mckenziemc | who *doesn't* stalk Ackis |
| 03:15.19 | Kaylin | I tried but he didn't give me his email |
| 03:15.40 | Ackis | sexyackis@hotmale.com |
| 03:15.50 | Kaylin | >_> |
| 03:15.51 | mckenziemc | you wish |
| 03:17.55 | Ackis | if you need to e-mail torhal his e-mail is nopenis@hotmale.com |
| 03:18.07 | mckenziemc | ~smackis |
| 03:18.07 | purl | ACTION smacks Ackis. |
| 03:18.49 | pompy | ouch |
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| 03:31.52 | Arrow|laptop | theres never anything good on hotel tv |
| 03:32.05 | karl_w_w | ~smmckenziemc |
| 03:32.15 | karl_w_w | doesn't work |
| 03:32.51 | karl_w_w | Arrow|laptop |
| 03:33.03 | karl_w_w | that's because watching tv doesnt earn them money |
| 03:33.49 | Arrow|laptop | theres no PPV |
| 03:33.51 | karl_w_w | they want u watching porn and ordering room service, or in the bar |
| 03:34.16 | Arrow|laptop | its a holiday inn express, they dont have ppv, room service, or a bar |
| 03:34.29 | karl_w_w | hmm |
| 03:34.50 | pompy | Arrow|laptop: Alan Wake is a flaash sale right now... Alan Wake, Alan Wake Collectors Edition Extras, American Nightmare for just $9.99 |
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| 03:36.32 | Arrow|laptop | pompy: thanks i might get it for that price even though i have the CE for xbox |
| 03:37.23 | mckenziemc | there's a road in chico called west east avenue : / |
| 03:37.43 | mckenziemc | http://maps.google.com/maps?sugexp=chrome,mod%3D7&q=240+W+East+Ave+(5150)++Ste+A++Chico,+CA+95926&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x8082d887a99dea75:0x5ba5eb2d40d9ae85,240+East+Ave,+Chico,+CA+95926&gl=us&sa=X&ei=JugAUKqoAuWC2wX7qfDDCw&ved=0CAgQ8gEwAA |
| 03:39.57 | pompy | Arrow|laptop: yeah might as well because if you got just Alan Wake and American Nightmare that'd be $11.23 |
| 03:40.06 | pompy | offer ends in 11hrs15min |
| 03:43.00 | Arrow|laptop | im waiting or an anime release, any release of anything im watching just so i have something to do |
| 03:43.17 | Arrow|laptop | but i dont think anything normally comes out at this time |
| 03:53.46 | karl_w_w | so i just found out an awesome way to troll somebody irl |
| 03:54.22 | karl_w_w | sign them up to a new isp. you don't need to prove your identity, and the new isp will tell the old one that you're churning |
| 03:55.03 | Thunder_Child | funny you should mention that, i was just checking to see if 'trolled' was avaliable in a vanity plate. Sadly it is already taken. |
| 03:55.20 | karl_w_w | surprisingly |
| 03:55.51 | Thunder_Child | so was trolld |
| 04:01.01 | Kaylin | tr0lled |
| 04:01.59 | Arrow|laptop | so this universe sandbox game on steam is awesome |
| 04:02.28 | pompy | lol bught it a while bck, havent played it yet |
| 04:02.55 | Arrow|laptop | fire it up and check out some of the preloaded simulations |
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| 04:14.51 | pompy | http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/559119_4282813025554_1876520953_n.jpg awesome |
| 04:17.56 | karl_w_w | http://therealtailsdoll.deviantart.com/art/Troll-Danger-Sign-287143269 also fake |
| 04:22.02 | pompy | this happened today in north jersey .. http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/local_news/water_cooler/video-roselle-park-new-jersey-traffic-camera-shows-suspected-drunk-drivers-car-go-airborne .. video is there |
| 04:22.04 | pompy | its insane |
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| 04:38.25 | mckenziemc | http://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbview_approve/5510712/2/stock-illustration-5510712-glassy-warning-road-signs-vector.jpg interesting treads on the bottom row, 2nd from the right |
| 04:38.57 | bluipodcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:39.20 | kd3 | the slippery road sign in the US is like that too |
| 04:40.51 | mckenziemc | don't think so here in cali |
| 04:41.05 | bluipodcow | Interesting variable in the new beta base URL : supports_multibox |
| 04:41.14 | bluipodcow | Not sure if new |
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| 04:43.32 | Thunder_Child | mckenziemc: yes it is, just not a red triangle. I think it's a yellow hex |
| 04:43.59 | Thunder_Child | oh, yellow diamond |
| 04:44.27 | mckenziemc | http://www.google.com/search?sugexp=chrome,mod=7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=slippery+road+sign 2nd and 3rd sign from the left are what they use here |
| 04:45.11 | Thunder_Child | they use the first as well |
| 04:45.18 | mckenziemc | where? |
| 04:45.33 | Thunder_Child | i have seen it driving somewhere |
| 04:45.39 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 04:45.41 | Thunder_Child | but in socal |
| 04:45.57 | bluipodcow | Where u at mckenziemc ? |
| 04:46.07 | mckenziemc | magalia, ca |
| 04:46.38 | Thunder_Child | norcal loser |
| 04:46.46 | bluipodcow | Interesting |
| 04:46.56 | bluipodcow | For some reason I though |
| 04:47.09 | bluipodcow | T you were an Australian |
| 04:47.21 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 04:47.47 | bluipodcow | Ya |
| 04:47.57 | mckenziemc | didn't someobody else think that too or was that you |
| 04:47.58 | bluipodcow | Wtf all right |
| 04:48.08 | bluipodcow | Idunnolol |
| 04:48.41 | Thunder_Child | you would think that blu would know an aussie since he is in their vacation spot. |
| 04:50.07 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 04:53.23 | bluipodcow | Lol |
| 04:58.39 | Arrow|laptop | http://store.steampowered.com/app/19680/ |
| 04:58.45 | Arrow|laptop | alice on sale on steam |
| 04:59.47 | Thunder_Child | i think i only played 15 min of the first one |
| 04:59.51 | Stanzilla | Arrow|laptop: what else is on sale, one item is censored for me gain, I see bejeweled, alan wake and alice |
| 05:00.06 | Thunder_Child | football manager 2012 |
| 05:00.16 | Arrow|laptop | ^^ |
| 05:00.46 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 05:01.19 | Arrow|laptop | madness returns is longer than it needs to be but its still good |
| 05:01.35 | Stanzilla | I paid 5€ for it on origin |
| 05:01.38 | pompy | New goat mounts: Reins of the Brown Riding Goat, Reins of the Black Riding Goat, Reins of the White Riding Goat |
| 05:01.40 | pompy | goats!? lol |
| 05:05.38 | bluipodcow | Will there be a blue one? |
| 05:05.46 | Kaylin | bluspacemount |
| 05:05.48 | bluipodcow | You could ride me :P |
| 05:10.11 | Thunder_Child | hard and wet? |
| 05:10.41 | karl_w_w | https://www.google.com/search?q=unusual+road+signs&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=O_8AUKG2D6WsiAfd29SQCA&ved=0CFMQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=599 that's a fun road sign |
| 05:10.44 | karl_w_w | er |
| 05:10.48 | karl_w_w | web page* |
| 05:12.56 | pompy | :O |
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| 05:16.25 | karl_w_w | "danger failed road" lol |
| 05:26.39 | Kaylin | http://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/2012/3/6/99cd4d9a-a6c2-4cf3-b7d5-be37461ff819.png |
| 05:27.15 | pompy | http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23381789.jpg |
| 05:48.30 | Dagmar | I <3 Topatco's shirts |
| 05:48.51 | Dagmar | Gettin' me a shirt that says "I know how I am going to die" |
| 05:49.06 | Dagmar | You can't ask for a better straight line |
| 05:49.40 | Dagmar | Answer: "Oh come now. It would be unfair to spoil the suprise for the rest of you." |
| 05:51.16 | Dagmar | Some people like irony, I like socipathy. |
| 05:52.14 | Thunder_Child | Till you meet a woman with a shirt that says "Because I am going to kill you" |
| 05:52.29 | Dagmar | She'd have to meet me at the ring stone |
| 05:52.46 | Dagmar | If it were black I'd do her right there. |
| 05:52.57 | Dagmar | I wouldn't care if it was a children's playground. |
| 05:53.08 | Thunder_Child | if what were black? |
| 05:53.13 | Dagmar | Her shirt. |
| 05:57.20 | bluipodcow | Ring stone? |
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| 06:03.01 | Dewin | MOP beta downloader wreaks havoc on my router (namely: dnsmasq jumps to very high CPU utilization and things just start exploding) :-/ |
| 06:05.37 | Dagmar | bluspacecow: Doh. ring store |
| 06:11.23 | Sintacks | slaps bluipodcow around a bit with a large trout | 4,276 tributes to Monty Python |
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| 06:14.25 | bluipodcow | Oh hai Dewin |
| 06:32.18 | pompy | lol ut oh... bioshock 2 34% of the votes... metro 2033 35% of the votes... guess who wins... bioshock 2 |
| 06:32.24 | pompy | hmm |
| 06:33.55 | pompy | haha and it says its for 75% off.. the summer sale group says " The people have voted and the winner is: 50% off BioShock® 2" |
| 06:35.00 | Thunder_Child | refresh pompy |
| 06:35.25 | Thunder_Child | s/h p/h, p/ |
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| 06:36.11 | pompy | nope, same |
| 06:42.47 | Thunder_Child | not for me, i have 35% is bioshock |
| 06:43.16 | Thunder_Child | and 75% off |
| 06:50.06 | pompy | Thunder_Child: people are reporting the issue either way >< .. and my screenie http://miksta.teamofprogrammers.com/weird.jpg |
| 06:52.01 | Thunder_Child | interesting, fear seems to be the one either way |
| 06:52.16 | Thunder_Child | but you should buy now, if they switch it, you get both for 75% off |
| 06:52.36 | Thunder_Child | the same either way( |
| 06:52.43 | Thunder_Child | s/(/*/ |
| 06:53.20 | pompy | buy what now? |
| 06:53.35 | pompy | the 75% off deal doesnt go live fr another 10 mins! |
| 06:54.57 | Thunder_Child | when it does |
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| 06:55.42 | bluipodcow | Oh hai |
| 06:57.21 | pompy | bioshock 2 now 75% off |
| 06:57.23 | pompy | fail |
| 06:57.26 | pompy | hmm |
| 06:58.32 | randomDude | FUUUUUU |
| 07:01.50 | pompy | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:04.42 | Thunder_Child | i own them all |
| 07:04.46 | Thunder_Child | so meh |
| 07:05.13 | Thunder_Child | i think i am going to vote for PvZ however, everyone should play that game at some point |
| 07:06.06 | pompy | i was playing it in wow last night |
| 07:06.13 | pompy | f that quest! |
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| 07:27.02 | nevcairiel | Maldivia: thanks :) |
| 07:27.17 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: and you thought I would forget |
| 07:27.20 | Maldivia | :P |
| 07:27.38 | nevcairiel | i forgot i told you! |
| 07:27.48 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 07:28.06 | Maldivia | well, I only remembered it because it was friday the 13th, so don't expect me to remember next year :P |
| 07:28.20 | nevcairiel | yeah its only a friday every odd years |
| 07:29.18 | Maldivia | bluipodcow: pong? |
| 07:29.44 | bluipodcow | Nvm I forgot why I needed you |
| 07:29.47 | bluipodcow | Loo |
| 07:29.49 | bluipodcow | Lol |
| 07:30.09 | Maldivia | well, just turned on the computer now, so :P |
| 07:30.45 | nevcairiel | funny, yesterday we talked about pet battles not in the beta, and today we're liars |
| 07:30.47 | nevcairiel | i shall go test it |
| 07:31.11 | Maldivia | :P |
| 07:31.14 | nevcairiel | although it'll take an hour or so to download the 20gb |
| 07:31.36 | bluipodcow | Lol |
| 07:32.41 | bluipodcow | Are you on Maldivia's patch mailing list? |
| 07:32.50 | nevcairiel | no |
| 07:33.01 | bluipodcow | Okay |
| 07:33.08 | nevcairiel | why? |
| 07:33.46 | bluipodcow | Your download speed okay ? I'm working on a way to manually download the patch files you need |
| 07:33.59 | nevcairiel | like i said, an hour to download the 20gb |
| 07:34.02 | nevcairiel | sounds ok :P |
| 07:34.24 | nevcairiel | caps my bandwidth :) |
| 07:34.42 | bluipodcow | Okay doley |
| 07:34.57 | nevcairiel | never had bandwidth problems on the beta launcher |
| 07:35.04 | nevcairiel | the http mirror pumps out plenty of data |
| 07:35.45 | bluipodcow | Works using https too |
| 07:36.08 | AcidWeb | I had terrible transfers using launcher p2p. Disabling auto proxy detecgion in IE fix that issue. |
| 07:36.18 | bluipodcow | Otherwise I would not be able to download at work :P |
| 07:36.29 | AcidWeb | *detection |
| 07:36.39 | nevcairiel | i have a proxy script in my IE anyway |
| 07:36.48 | nevcairiel | need to provide a proxy for certain sites =p |
| 08:01.40 | mckenziemc | morning bluipodcow |
| 08:01.53 | bluipodcow | Oh hai Ozzie :P |
| 08:02.30 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 08:17.43 | mckenziemc | when i used google to find a city in cali i neglected to put CA in and it showed a result in new zealand >.> |
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| 08:26.43 | Sintacks | oaijsdgoaisjdfaoihsdgi |
| 08:26.46 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:27.24 | mckenziemc | qjlaoesth,.poaeuw? |
| 08:32.59 | karl_w_w | 21 gb |
| 08:33.04 | karl_w_w | impressive |
| 08:33.16 | karl_w_w | that's like the whole thing again |
| 08:33.24 | mckenziemc | like? |
| 08:33.35 | AcidWeb | And it is not VALVE update. So no hats there. |
| 08:33.53 | karl_w_w | Conjunction: |
| 08:33.53 | karl_w_w | In the same way that; as: "people who change countries like they change clothes". |
| 08:34.24 | mckenziemc | doesn't Like this. |
| 08:35.02 | karl_w_w | turns mckenziemc into a timeline and covers him with trending stories |
| 08:35.11 | mckenziemc | :( |
| 08:37.33 | nevcairiel | is the launcher smart enough these days to launch the 64-bit wow for me? I just noticed it did so, at least in the mop beta, neat :) |
| 08:46.22 | bluipodcow | That was bad when the 64 bit client was crashing :| |
| 08:46.41 | karl_w_w | crashes bluipodcow |
| 08:46.51 | bluipodcow | As the launcher would randomly default the 32 bit option off |
| 08:47.15 | bluipodcow | karl_w_w: you us canadian yes? |
| 08:47.27 | nevcairiel | now the important question, is there a macro condition to know you're fighting a pet battle? :P |
| 08:47.50 | karl_w_w | what |
| 08:48.28 | bluipodcow | I dunno nev try extracting gramexml and checking |
| 08:48.30 | bluipodcow | ? |
| 08:48.38 | bluipodcow | Wtf autocorrect |
| 08:48.47 | nevcairiel | those things arent really listed in the framexml |
| 08:49.32 | bluipodcow | Would /eventlist help? |
| 08:49.32 | karl_w_w | who said anything about framexml |
| 08:51.35 | Sintacks | ... i can't re-imbue my weapon cuz i'm stuck in a looting animation |
| 08:52.00 | bluipodcow | Lies |
| 08:52.23 | nevcairiel | also all my pets didnt transfer to beta |
| 08:52.24 | nevcairiel | oh noes |
| 08:52.32 | bluipodcow | It's a teabagging animation |
| 08:52.49 | bluipodcow | Try /cast for them |
| 08:52.50 | AcidWeb | "stuck in a looting animation" old good times @open beta wow vanilla |
| 08:53.06 | karl_w_w | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:53.07 | karl_w_w | why do i have like 100 netstat entries like this? |
| 08:54.14 | bluipodcow | Agent / launcher connecting to itself lol |
| 08:54.43 | Sintacks | connects to 127.0.0.1 and steals all of karl_w_w's porn |
| 08:54.44 | karl_w_w | looks like it |
| 08:54.48 | Sintacks | dude... why do you have all the same porn as me |
| 08:55.01 | bluipodcow | Theres a parameter you can use to which program has the connection open |
| 08:55.02 | Sintacks | DUDE WHY YOU HAVE NAKED PICS OF ME?! |
| 08:55.14 | karl_w_w | yes bluipodcow |
| 08:55.21 | karl_w_w | but it doesnt show all of them |
| 08:55.26 | bluipodcow | There's one for PID and one for paths I do believe |
| 08:55.41 | karl_w_w | such an amateur! |
| 08:55.57 | bluipodcow | Stop using XP then :P |
| 08:56.14 | karl_w_w | experience? |
| 08:56.17 | karl_w_w | ok |
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| 09:32.56 | nevcairiel | man this pet battle ui is not friendly to actionbar addons |
| 09:33.04 | nevcairiel | they didnt even bother naming the action buttons |
| 09:33.09 | nevcairiel | anonymous frames ftl |
| 09:36.42 | Corgan | grumble, pet battles disconnect me |
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| 09:44.35 | Zorben | hey anybody know the new interface number off the top of their heads? |
| 09:46.02 | nevcairiel | for beta? 50001 |
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| 09:47.07 | Zorben | yea, thats what I had, but they updated and it went out of date, let me double check |
| 09:48.47 | Zorben | nope sorry my bad, its still 50001, just forgot to save after some changes, thx |
| 09:57.27 | nevcairiel | something is wrong with the pet battle system, my pets randomly spawn dead :P |
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| 10:29.01 | karl_w_w | that's not a bug nevcairiel, you're just a horrible parent |
| 10:29.19 | nevcairiel | they are pets, not children |
| 10:29.27 | nevcairiel | if they die, you just buy new ones |
| 10:31.28 | Elkano | so what's the difference to children? (at least if you're a star used to adopting them) |
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| 10:58.31 | Humbedooh | rtharper, http://mathoverflow.net/questions/36758/difference-between-a-calculus-and-an-algebra perhaps? |
| 10:58.36 | Humbedooh | short answer: meh |
| 10:59.56 | karl_w_w | an algebra is easier |
| 11:00.17 | Humbedooh | how rude of rtharper to get a ping timeout |
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| 11:05.28 | Humbedooh | silly chat windows |
| 11:06.13 | karl_w_w | this isn't chat it's irc |
| 11:06.19 | karl_w_w | be serious |
| 11:06.52 | Humbedooh | kk :| |
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| 13:48.54 | jnwhiteh | Adys: any chance I can snag the watchtower waypoint from you? |
| 13:49.00 | Adys | sure |
| 14:00.01 | Sintacks | is there an addon that fixes the stupid crap with being online on two accounts and realid messages going to the wrong client |
| 14:01.18 | Adys | Sintacks: you should ask Mikk2 |
| 14:01.37 | Adys | er |
| 14:01.37 | Sintacks | they've been idle for 2 days ... |
| 14:01.38 | Adys | Mikk |
| 14:01.44 | Adys | hes not in the chan |
| 14:03.04 | nevcairiel | Mikk2 is Mikk, he just hasnt been around for a while to fix his name |
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| 14:03.58 | Sintacks | hi blu |
| 14:04.18 | bluspacecow | hihi |
| 14:04.55 | Sintacks | people abuse tags on curse to make their addons show up in places that just don't make sense |
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| 14:08.49 | bluspacecow | like in the toilet! |
| 14:09.08 | bluspacecow | or in an adbreak! |
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| 14:42.53 | Kaylin | how large/small can I go with numbers in LUA before I lose integer precision? |
| 14:43.23 | Kaylin | (in wow specifically) |
| 14:44.10 | nevcairiel | all numbers in Lua are saved internally as double precision floats, so something like 2^52 |
| 14:46.09 | zenzelezz | so, just wrestled with my dishwasher for an hour or so trying to pry it open and find out why it, well, won't open anymore. Something about the door latch (or something, I don't know the terminology) does not work anymore. Think one of the parts is too worn or whatever... most annoying |
| 14:47.14 | karl_w_w | zenzelezz: you shouldn't have let her get a door latch then |
| 14:47.23 | Kaylin | a second question, if i am using the bitlib library included with WoW, what if I pass it a larger number than 2^31-1 or smaller than -2^31, does it ignore the higher bits or error out or what happens in this case? |
| 14:47.49 | karl_w_w | wow crashes |
| 14:48.13 | Kaylin | really? (okay I won't do that but jw if serious) |
| 14:48.20 | karl_w_w | idk if that is the number where it crashes actually |
| 14:48.35 | karl_w_w | but i have tested it, it handles numbers normally up to a point |
| 14:48.40 | karl_w_w | then it just crashes |
| 14:48.43 | Kaylin | okay ty |
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| 14:50.39 | Kaylin | so I should use the math library I assume to mod(omg this is a pun I love this modify/modulus) the number to a reasonable range before trying bitwise functions on it then I assume is the idea. |
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| 15:00.49 | karl_w_w | pvz goty edition on community choice |
| 15:02.01 | karl_w_w | and the alan wake flash sale ends in 2 mins |
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| 15:29.59 | pompy | well Thunder_Child, pvz won |
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| 15:52.30 | Amarande | PvZ? Player versus Zombie? :) |
| 15:53.11 | Elkano | plants, not player |
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| 15:55.04 | Amarande | Elkano: is EBB on board for MoP, btw? |
| 15:58.32 | Kaylin | wuzzat? |
| 15:58.52 | bluspacecow | elakano's bum bars |
| 15:58.58 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:00.19 | Sintacks | I seem to have invited myself to the Mists Beta |
| 16:00.24 | Sintacks | from yahoo.com |
| 16:00.56 | mikma | Windows + SSD, pagefile it or not? |
| 16:06.33 | Amarande | yeah, EBB has not had full functionality since late Lich King |
| 16:06.43 | Amarande | It is quite missed, as I have not yet been able to locate an equivalent addon |
| 16:07.21 | Amarande | and as a frost mage, the inability to cancel buffs in combat is a dealbreaker |
| 16:12.11 | Amarande | when you're doing LFD dungeons, you kind of want that ability to iceblock in case the tank doesn't pick up adds quickly enough and then not have to be out of the fight for the full duration |
| 16:12.28 | bluspacecow | @sintacks oh rly ? |
| 16:12.30 | Nimhfree | you cannot cancel out of iceblock? |
| 16:13.09 | kd3 | you can, just hit the iceblock hot key again |
| 16:13.33 | kd3 | as long as the secure ability toggle option is turned off |
| 16:13.55 | Nimhfree | I am wondering why amarande was saying it could not be done |
| 16:14.42 | nevcairiel | you just cant right-click buffs in combat to cancel them |
| 16:14.52 | nevcairiel | that there is another way to escape the iceblock must've just escaped him :P |
| 16:15.02 | nevcairiel | (that is with EBB) |
| 16:15.58 | Gnarfoz | is there any good buff addon out there that actually uses secureauraframes? |
| 16:16.13 | Gnarfoz | I recall p3lim had a half-finished one (Scent?) |
| 16:16.30 | nevcairiel | i just move and tweak the blizz buttons a bit |
| 16:16.38 | nevcairiel | i'm not all that demanding regarding buffs |
| 16:17.36 | Amarande | Yeah, I keep forgetting that they made such abilities be togglable |
| 16:17.47 | Amarande | and yeah, what Gnarfoz said, these seem to have completely vanished since 4.0 |
| 16:18.01 | Amarande | nev: you can move the blizz buttons? |
| 16:18.06 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 16:18.16 | Gnarfoz | of course what? |
| 16:18.40 | Gnarfoz | also, yeah, that's a possibility, I just haven't tried that, ever :D |
| 16:18.49 | Amarande | that's news. one of the things I have tended to find particularly irritating about having to use a Blizz UI widget is that most of them are perma-locked so you have to move your addons around them rather than be able to move them around your addons |
| 16:19.01 | Gnarfoz | something that applies Masque skins to them and makes them movable would almost be enough |
| 16:19.15 | Amarande | nev: Gnarfoz has me on ignore for some dumb reason, so he's not seeing the full convo |
| 16:19.29 | nevcairiel | Blizzard doesnt let you move them in the built-in UI (afaik anyway), but if you just setpoint BuffFrame somewhere else, its all fine |
| 16:19.52 | Amarande | but yeah, that's a reason I tend to hate when a X.0.1 patch comes out especially |
| 16:21.06 | Amarande | Many of the addons break for a week or two (if not longer, as many addons don't survive an expansion changeover, e.g. full functionality of EBB as noted above), and at least some of the other ones are no longer placeable in the positions I am comfy with because during the waiting period one is stuck with the Blizzard equivalents, which occupy those spaces and cannot always be easily moved |
| 16:21.39 | Stanzilla | O.o |
| 16:22.20 | nevcairiel | i rarely had addon issues after a patch, maybe after an expansion a bit, but then i'm smart and just fix the addons i want to use :P |
| 16:22.22 | Amarande | It's a good thing, for instance, that Shadowed is on the ball with SUF, since it looks like Pitbull will not survive the changeover into MoP and X-Perl also may be on life support at best |
| 16:22.24 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:22.30 | bluspacecow | layoutcache.wtf edits lol |
| 16:22.43 | Dewin | Amarande: I thought Shadowed no longer worked on SUF and someone else took it over |
| 16:23.41 | Amarande | I suppose we can also blame copyright for it to a large degree, as despite the fact that addons are open source by definition, and virtually none have been attempted to be sold commercially (carbonite is the only real example of that that I can think of) very few addon writers seem to actually use FOSS licences for their addons and let them default to ARR, greatly limiting the ability of |
| 16:23.41 | Amarande | others to carry on the work when they are left to rot :| |
| 16:23.50 | bluspacecow | ..... |
| 16:23.53 | bluspacecow | open source ? |
| 16:23.55 | bluspacecow | addons ? |
| 16:23.57 | bluspacecow | LOL |
| 16:24.03 | pompy | .......... |
| 16:24.09 | Stanzilla | >.< |
| 16:24.11 | Amarande | bluspacecow: well, open source doesn't necessarily mean free |
| 16:24.15 | bluspacecow | someone's been fiskered |
| 16:24.22 | Amarande | look at Debian, plenty of stuff that's open source and yet has to be in the non-free section :) |
| 16:24.26 | Gnarfoz | Dewin: nah |
| 16:24.38 | Dewin | Just because you have access to the source code doesn't mean it's "Open Source" |
| 16:24.38 | nevcairiel | Amarande: open source is a fixed term which does not only mean "you can look at their source" |
| 16:24.39 | Amarande | Or the fact that Firefox is open-source, but doesn't (as Firefox, anyway) qualify under the DFSG |
| 16:25.12 | Amarande | nev: hmm. I thought "free software" and "open source" were still separate terms, unless ESR has sufficiently corrupted the latter to make it now necessarily imply the former |
| 16:25.41 | Amarande | I learned it as that "free software" had to do with the licence, while "open source" referred to the end user's ability to have access to the source code |
| 16:25.48 | bluspacecow | openly readable is what addons are |
| 16:25.50 | bluspacecow | no more no less |
| 16:25.52 | Amarande | (meaning, ALL scripting languages are inherently open source) |
| 16:26.15 | Amarande | PHP, Lua, Perl etc. as they have no non-human-readable byte-only version |
| 16:26.34 | Dewin | technically at least two of those do. |
| 16:26.41 | Amarande | bluspacecow: and open-modifiable, at least for personal use. |
| 16:26.58 | bluspacecow | free of that thing you do to make code look shitty and completely unintelligible . begins with o |
| 16:27.04 | foxlit | Which reminds me: I need to find an excuse to ship bytecode in some form. |
| 16:27.09 | Kaylin | obfuscation? |
| 16:27.11 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 16:27.15 | bluspacecow | ty dear |
| 16:27.16 | Amarande | bluspacecow: obfuscation is banned in WoW addons, though |
| 16:27.35 | Kaylin | I thought it was just forbidden without permission |
| 16:27.43 | Kaylin | see: that one popcap wow addon |
| 16:27.46 | Nimhfree | shipping byte code need not be obfuscation...it could be efficiency in loading a smaller addon |
| 16:28.15 | nevcairiel | the overhead from parsing the code is minimal |
| 16:28.26 | Amarande | Nimhfree: the point, though, was that we always inherently have access to the source code of a WoW addon, as a pure text based scripting language such as Lua has no non-human-readable form |
| 16:28.27 | Dewin | Heh. I've often wondered if it'd be possible to make something that runs luasrcdiet or something similar over my entire addons folder and 'compiles' it into something that will load more efficiently |
| 16:28.33 | foxlit | besides, wow won't load bytecode, so it'd have to be fancier. |
| 16:28.54 | nevcairiel | Amarande: lua does have a byte-code form, although wow doesnt load it |
| 16:29.02 | nebula169 | luac ~ |
| 16:29.07 | Amarande | and since, with the primary exception of carbonite, and maybe some of those addons from leveling-guide sites, virtually no addon authors have any profit motive |
| 16:29.12 | bluspacecow | *yanks out a can of fancy cat food and dumps it on Dewin's addon folder* |
| 16:29.14 | bluspacecow | there. |
| 16:29.16 | bluspacecow | fancy |
| 16:29.18 | AcidWeb | Anybody here play RBGs and want recive Gold Star for some debugging? |
| 16:29.22 | foxlit | But anyway, that part of the addon policy seems about as enforceable as imposing a penalty on successful suicides. |
| 16:29.29 | bluspacecow | whats an RBG |
| 16:29.37 | Amarande | it doesn't make sense that addon authors have not embraced FOSS licencing for addons, and instead let them default to ARR, which is a major reason why so many addons are lost forever after expansions and major patches |
| 16:29.47 | Kaylin | can't the block specific addons? not that the authors can't just change them |
| 16:30.00 | Kaylin | theyc ould send in the army of lawyers if it was a large financial issue I guess |
| 16:30.06 | Amarande | because not only do authors often abandon addons or drop out of WoW, but due to the copyright laws other authors *can't* take on the work themselves, except to keep it bubble-gum-and-string for personal use |
| 16:30.09 | AcidWeb | bluspacecow: Rats Buying Grain |
| 16:30.46 | bluspacecow | Amarande because they're in it for themselves and not users of their addon |
| 16:30.51 | bluspacecow | you should know this by now :) |
| 16:30.57 | Dewin | specific addons can be blocked, yes, though I believe the blocking is fairly rudimentary. |
| 16:31.08 | Kaylin | since you're not supposed to charge for addons the correct answer is to license CC-BY or something similar and be done with it |
| 16:31.11 | Amarande | Kaylin: I think at least one version of GearScore was banned that way |
| 16:31.23 | bluspacecow | yep |
| 16:31.32 | AcidWeb | bluspacecow: Rated Battlegrounds ofc |
| 16:31.43 | bluspacecow | you can do that ? |
| 16:31.52 | bluspacecow | like 9/10 will PVP again ? |
| 16:32.00 | bluspacecow | or 2/10 really bad service |
| 16:32.18 | nevcairiel | the battleground rates you, not the other way around! |
| 16:32.27 | bluspacecow | oh |
| 16:32.37 | Dewin | In Communist Alterac Valley, battleground rates you? |
| 16:32.39 | bluspacecow | end battleground *you suck. never PVP again* |
| 16:32.44 | kd3 | A big solar storm is hitting the Earth today, but res&rchers say yo* shouldn't not/ce anything di%7erent [Interesting] |
| 16:32.55 | Kaylin | lol |
| 16:32.57 | Amarande | kd3: hopefully |
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| 16:33.11 | Amarande | a sufficiently large solar storm is actually one of the more plausible theories for the end of society as we know it |
| 16:33.29 | AcidWeb | bluspacecow: Yes 10 ppl enter AB. Game roll d10 and on 1-10 big red "YOU SUCK1" appear and game remove all your game time. |
| 16:33.35 | Amarande | in particular, if we EVER see another one such as happened in 1859 CE, we're pretty much done for if it hits the US/Western Europe slice of the planet |
| 16:33.46 | bluspacecow | awesome |
| 16:33.48 | Kaylin | what happened then etc? |
| 16:34.00 | Kaylin | and what would it do? cancer and fun with electronics? |
| 16:34.05 | Amarande | Kaylin: it was a powerful enough storm to see the aurora in the tropics |
| 16:34.12 | bluspacecow | thats the year amarande was born' |
| 16:34.12 | nevcairiel | Kaylin: only fun with electronics |
| 16:34.12 | Nimhfree | does anyone know if there is any way to load locale-based data efficiently? For example, the TOC currently lists each of the locale files separately, and in each locale file the actual locale is detected and if not matching the current file return happens instead of Lua processing that file. however, conceptually being able to have an if block that detects the current locale and does a dofile to only load the one that it should would be much better. |
| 16:34.13 | Nimhfree | seems not to have dofile. does anyone know of a better way to be able to load LARGE data sets efficiently based on locale? |
| 16:34.26 | Kaylin | ah okay |
| 16:34.27 | nevcairiel | Kaylin: or rather, death to all electronics |
| 16:34.35 | Amarande | Telegraph machines that were switched off worked as if they were on, while ones that were on *caught fire* |
| 16:34.41 | Kaylin | fun, death, pretty lights, same thing. |
| 16:34.47 | Amarande | Now imagine this in today's electronic world, it would be like setting off Goldeneye over most of Western civilisation |
| 16:35.01 | mckenziemc | Nimhfree: have you looked at acelocale? |
| 16:35.03 | Amarande | Worst-case is that it happens over the US and Western Europe in which case it might take a thousand years or more to recover |
| 16:35.11 | Kaylin | that'd be awesome we could make an analog film about it afterward! |
| 16:35.35 | Amarande | seeing that with perhaps the main exceptions of Japan and China, most of the rest of the world is probably not rich enough to take on the monumental task of restoration of the Western world |
| 16:36.09 | AcidWeb | Nimhfree: just place "if GetLocale() ~= "X" then return end" on start of each locale file. |
| 16:36.18 | Kaylin | it's okay guns would still work /constitution |
| 16:36.47 | Nimhfree | yes, that is what I do acidweb, however, each file is large and i wanted to minimize the need for WoW to load each file to see that detection and bail |
| 16:37.04 | AcidWeb | define: large |
| 16:37.22 | Kaylin | can you have an addon that loads the seperate addons when it finds the locale? |
| 16:37.25 | nevcairiel | Nimhfree: can always make them load on demand addons themself, and only load them programmatically if needed |
| 16:37.25 | Kaylin | so they're load on demand or w/e |
| 16:37.31 | Kaylin | yea that what nev said |
| 16:37.40 | nevcairiel | we agree, the idea must be good |
| 16:37.47 | mckenziemc | is the time taken to load the files actually that significant? |
| 16:38.03 | AcidWeb | IMHO making load on demand locale files is waste of time. |
| 16:38.10 | mckenziemc | ^ |
| 16:38.16 | nevcairiel | just clutters the addon dir |
| 16:38.25 | Nimhfree | the size is like 400K each. I have no idea how to measure the actual load times of the files from WoW point of view..just user perception |
| 16:38.39 | bluspacecow | stopwatch! |
| 16:39.04 | Kaylin | say tick really quickly, like 4 billion times a second, then count that |
| 16:39.05 | nevcairiel | what was that addons name to time loading |
| 16:39.07 | nevcairiel | warmup? |
| 16:39.22 | nevcairiel | wonder if it still works =p |
| 16:39.23 | mckenziemc | sounds familiar |
| 16:39.23 | Nimhfree | warmup works somewhat, but I wanted finer grain info |
| 16:39.24 | Amarande | Meanwhile, the 1% would immediately win the class war because there would not be enough food production to support more than a small percentage of the population without all our electronically-controlled big rig farming, and the rich would snap it all up. |
| 16:39.31 | kd3 | wait, 400k? what's the SV limit? |
| 16:39.39 | Amarande | Basically, excessive solar storm = Bad. |
| 16:39.47 | nevcairiel | SV limit is in the MB area |
| 16:39.51 | mckenziemc | 30 MB or so |
| 16:40.27 | AcidWeb | BTW Nimhfree what you making? |
| 16:40.33 | Nimhfree | i have toyed with the idea of putting all the locale data into one file and then using if/elseif from the current locale to set things up properly, and may do a test of that. basically the tradeoff is between loading the file from disk and processing the Lua to determine what is correct. |
| 16:40.43 | Nimhfree | the addon is Grail |
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| 16:44.19 | Kaylin | strikes pompy with a large inflatable bat. |
| 16:45.06 | Kaylin | class war: rogues > all, you're welcome. |
| 16:45.13 | pompy | Kaylin: what |
| 16:45.31 | Kaylin | just saying hi :) |
| 16:45.37 | pompy | haii |
| 16:50.42 | AcidWeb | http://what-if.xkcd.com/1/ |
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| 16:58.01 | nevcairiel | so, not pitching with full strength then? |
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| 17:01.42 | Nimhfree | I did not know about the what-if portion f the website. |
| 17:02.02 | nevcairiel | there is only 2 posts |
| 17:02.17 | kd3 | he just started it 2 tuesdays ago |
| 17:07.50 | m^rk | last beta patch really needs 20gb update.. wow |
| 17:08.08 | Nimhfree | i have still not been able to get the new beta version running |
| 17:08.13 | Nimhfree | it errors |
| 17:08.14 | nevcairiel | yup, it re-downloads the whole beta pretty much |
| 17:08.30 | bluspacecow | <-------------- still downloading |
| 17:08.38 | nevcairiel | <-- took me an hour |
| 17:09.00 | nevcairiel | i wish it was that fast on live |
| 17:09.09 | nevcairiel | but live usually has the pipes clogged :p |
| 17:11.45 | Amarande | any thoughts yet on how close to release we are? |
| 17:11.59 | Stanzilla | fucking cheater nevcairiel |
| 17:12.15 | Amarande | If we get a release soonish, I'd like to see it be Aug ... 28. Just selfishly. :) |
| 17:12.21 | nevcairiel | i cheat by living in a big city! |
| 17:12.24 | Nimhfree | probably has 50meg download |
| 17:12.40 | nevcairiel | Amarande: earliest september, my guess is more like october |
| 17:14.09 | Amarande | heh, just in time for people's UIs to be thrown into chaos for Hallow's End again? :) |
| 17:14.29 | Amarande | It starts to seem like Hallow's End will only be fully playable (for us addon-accustomed folks) once every other year :P |
| 17:14.42 | nevcairiel | my guess is they would want to avoid a release right around a major world event |
| 17:14.55 | Amarande | actually, the problem wasn't really Cata release itself |
| 17:15.18 | Amarande | the problem is when the systems patch goes into place, which is never (unless it was the case with BC? I don't think it was there, though) at the same time as the expansion itself |
| 17:15.39 | Amarande | the systems patch (which is what breaks UIs) goes into effect usually about 4-6 weeks *before* release as I remember |
| 17:15.50 | bluspacecow | idunnolol |
| 17:15.59 | Amarande | unfortunately, with the frequency of world events in WoW, that means Hallow's End almost always gets the shaft |
| 17:16.01 | bluspacecow | don't know build and version the PTR is going to come out with. |
| 17:16.41 | Nimhfree | those is beta cannot use this PTR |
| 17:16.44 | Amarande | since in order to nestle the xpack comfy between world events, it pretty much either has to come out in August, November, or the spring, it seems |
| 17:17.07 | Amarande | November is typically targeted due to the holiday sales factor |
| 17:17.16 | Amarande | but then you have to release the systems patch a few weeks before, and HE gets slammed |
| 17:17.32 | nevcairiel | its a world even, what do you need an UI for that |
| 17:17.41 | bluspacecow | yes but that doesn't mean you can't download and take it apart anyway |
| 17:17.49 | bluspacecow | wonder if a trial account will work |
| 17:18.07 | Amarande | nev: there's the matter of HH, and also world events often exercise the UI a good bit more than other times because of things like Hallowed Wands and the like, all those cool toy things they have for the event |
| 17:18.09 | mckenziemc | sedates Amarande. |
| 17:18.31 | bluspacecow | *defenstrates mckenziemc* |
| 17:18.43 | Amarande | that was a major thing with 4.0.1, since if you were used to EBB for the like you were suddenly going GET IT OFF ME GET IT OFF ME after someone hit you with a Hallowed Wand that impaired your ability to act normally |
| 17:18.55 | Amarande | as those had a full hour long duration, and next thing "GAH WHY IS RIGHT CLICK NOT WORKING" |
| 17:18.59 | mckenziemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:19.13 | Amarande | mckenziemc: actually not as easy as it sounds |
| 17:19.23 | Amarande | you have to figure out the specific spell name that cancelaura wants, if you're going to do it that way |
| 17:19.32 | bluspacecow | lul |
| 17:19.32 | Amarande | which is surprisingly difficult to google as I found out then :| |
| 17:19.37 | bluspacecow | it was most lolzy tho |
| 17:20.26 | foxlit | Am I horribly misinformed, or is CancelUnitBuff, the relevant API in this case, actually supposed to work properly out of combat for all but a few special-cased buffs like Bear Form? |
| 17:20.38 | nevcairiel | people that are impaired because of failure of there addons are just hilarious though |
| 17:20.48 | nevcairiel | just turn it off and play the way blizzard intended |
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| 17:21.19 | nevcairiel | foxlit: i think they changed that after 4.0 though |
| 17:21.27 | nevcairiel | at release it was always locked out |
| 17:21.28 | Nimhfree | one of the coolest things I liked about starting MoP beta was the lack of addons to see what Blizzard has done to the UI. I really like being able to loot all those around me with one click |
| 17:21.41 | nevcairiel | Nimhfree: thats hardly a UI feature |
| 17:22.13 | Nimhfree | it's a behavior we see using the UI...definitely a feature |
| 17:22.26 | nevcairiel | yes but it would also work with whatever loot addon you use ;) |
| 17:22.55 | Nimhfree | I would hope. but I also do not use loot addons. |
| 17:24.28 | Amarande | nev: do the release notes even go into much detail about things like newly-protected UI commands, though? I don't seem to recall that they do |
| 17:24.48 | Amarande | as a result, unless you check in with wowuidev on patch day before you go try to play WoW and see what's still working, you get slammed |
| 17:25.14 | nevcairiel | its not like a user would understand what those things mean |
| 17:25.20 | nevcairiel | and any half-serious author goes to a ptr |
| 17:25.26 | Amarande | especially with something like that, because you probably don't right-click off buffs all THAT often, and addons like EBB had no visual indication something was wrong, you only found that out when you actually tried to click off your buff |
| 17:26.21 | Amarande | most of the time, when an addon fails due to a patch, it tends to fail in a more spectacular fashion so you *know* it's broken |
| 17:26.53 | Amarande | granted, there is the whole uncheck "load out of date addons" thing, but that's actually usually at its most useless at the time of a new expansion X.0.1 |
| 17:27.50 | Amarande | due to the fact that right before that, you were running the last patch of the present expansion. and by the end of an expansion, generally quite a lot of fully functional addons haven't had their TOC updated (probably because they didn't need anything else to be updated in addition), so you've had that box checked for forever |
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| 17:28.26 | Kaylin | they should uncheck that box for people every time a patch is pushed, if they don't |
| 17:28.27 | Kaylin | IMO |
| 17:28.39 | mckenziemc | they do |
| 17:28.47 | Kaylin | okay then I am not crazy lmao |
| 17:28.54 | Kaylin | wait |
| 17:28.56 | Kaylin | logical isue |
| 17:29.01 | Kaylin | I might still be crazy. |
| 17:29.09 | Kaylin | unrelated to the box checking issue |
| 17:30.50 | Kaylin | soon |
| 17:30.56 | Kaylin | I can lose the fishing derby and go to bed |
| 17:31.03 | Kaylin | again |
| 17:31.05 | Kaylin | on both counts |
| 17:34.42 | Amarande | yeah, a lot of people are complaining about Salty lately, and it's shown up on El's Extreme Anglin' as a topic too |
| 17:35.22 | Amarande | have they figured out yet whether they're going to keep letting each realm have its own fishing winners, or whether it's going to be luck of the draw whether that occurs or whether there will be one winner a week from a group of several realms instead due to zone sharing? |
| 17:35.50 | Amarande | apparently, it's currently mentioned that in beta, four realms get a single fishing winner per contest per week among all four of them |
| 17:35.57 | Kaylin | idk :X it's already pure luck, I wish I didn't have to deny other people the achievement to win |
| 17:36.10 | Amarande | yeah, I've seen the Kalu'ak one described as "Vegas" heh |
| 17:36.13 | Kaylin | esp because I 1. don't care about the achievement part and 2. have won ebfore already |
| 17:36.23 | Kaylin | yes Kalu'ak is even more random than the BB one |
| 17:36.41 | Kaylin | my best moment was losing on the cata alpha realm |
| 17:36.53 | Kaylin | to the only other person in northrend after 50 min |
| 17:36.55 | Kaylin | I was like grr |
| 17:37.01 | Amarande | at least they give cold weather flying at 68 to all now, not that I'm sure if it's helpful with Kalu'ak |
| 17:37.11 | Kaylin | or w/e beta I guess it was all beta |
| 17:37.26 | Kaylin | meh it's all random, maybe minorly helpful |
| 17:37.30 | Amarande | I do get the feeling that in order to win the STV one you pretty much have to invest the 11,000g or so into master flying and be level 70+, though, even though STV is a level 30-35 or so zone |
| 17:37.49 | Kaylin | and god help you on a pvp server, you better have friends |
| 17:37.54 | Amarande | (And don't forget, be guilded in a guild that has the flying speed boost) |
| 17:37.59 | Amarande | And don't forget, freeze at 70 till you win it! |
| 17:38.15 | Amarande | except ... you need level 80 to be Master Flying, don't you |
| 17:38.43 | Amarande | unless you were one of the lucky ones to get it via a mount pre-Cata |
| 17:38.44 | Kaylin | sorta, can you still win arena @ 70? grandfathered arena/phoenix mounts will still have 310 flying @ 70 |
| 17:39.02 | Amarande | Only grandfathered mounts AFAIK, though |
| 17:39.10 | Amarande | If you get a formerly 310% mount, you fly it at 280% till you pony up the gold |
| 17:39.13 | Kaylin | oh can you complete long strange trip @ 70? |
| 17:39.21 | Kaylin | via cheesing dungeon queues |
| 17:39.28 | Kaylin | which does still work afaik |
| 17:39.35 | Kaylin | do any others require over 70? |
| 17:39.43 | Amarande | Most likely not. Even if you had the other matters, good luck not dying in the enemy capital cities too often to do it |
| 17:40.01 | Amarande | I love how the holidays were pushed as a "for the casual player" achievement set ... yeah, right, LOL |
| 17:40.06 | Kaylin | exactly |
| 17:40.17 | Kaylin | casual if you like being crazy good at bgs and playing 24/7 |
| 17:40.25 | Amarande | All of them tend to include at least one sufficiently PvP heavy achievement that you pretty much have to be an arena or BG great |
| 17:40.43 | Amarande | due to the rating requirement on gear that will let you survive the capital city runs |
| 17:40.57 | Amarande | though MoP should alleviate this somewhat, as every character in MoP starts with 30% resil |
| 17:41.22 | Amarande | still guards, though |
| 17:41.26 | Amarande | and guards are actually the biggest issue |
| 17:41.47 | Amarande | actually, that's what the big problem with letting the expansion pre-patch hit during a world event is, even if the expansion is nestled comfortably between them |
| 17:42.00 | Amarande | it usually makes that world event's achievement more or less uncompletable that year, because super powered guards |
| 17:42.02 | Kaylin | what, zombie pvp griefers? |
| 17:42.04 | Kaylin | oh right yea |
| 17:42.21 | Kaylin | I got a 5 person group to farm bb guards, that was tough to do |
| 17:42.32 | Kaylin | not that it's a world event but yea |
| 17:42.35 | Amarande | and yeah, zombie griefers was the problem with the LK pre-event |
| 17:42.49 | Amarande | because people were trying to do their Halloween event at the same time (and being that the Halloween achievements had JUST been introduced ... double trouble) |
| 17:44.22 | Kaylin | once again stupid gets the best of me: I bet I could eat like a half cup of this hot sauce it looks delicious |
| 17:44.44 | Amarande | Kaylin: is it ghost pepper hot sauce? |
| 17:45.15 | Kaylin | no, it's not that hot as far as hot sauces go but while delicious at the time seems to taste like fire afterward. |
| 17:52.56 | mckenziemc | doesn't want to know what fire tastes like. |
| 18:00.21 | Kaylin | it tastes like these wings my friend made me eat in Texas when I visited |
| 18:00.44 | Kaylin | it just burned, there was no specific flavour, just, ow |
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| 18:06.14 | Amarande | Kaylin, are those those wings the Man vs Food guy couldn't handle? |
| 18:07.17 | Kaylin | I doubt it bc I could handle them they just, they didn't taste like anything but fire, I did not enjoy myself |
| 18:07.36 | Kaylin | on the other hand I like pretty spicy food so *shrug* |
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| 18:12.42 | Kaylin | default search UI should have boxes for ilvl too not just rlvl |
| 18:13.06 | Kaylin | required level w/e |
| 18:14.55 | Kaylin | nap time, hope it gets cloudy again |
| 18:16.47 | bluspacecow | -_____- |
| 18:16.48 | bluspacecow | http://yfrog.com/gzlw9muj |
| 18:23.42 | mckenziemc | ? |
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| 19:30.48 | mikma | http://youtu.be/aLH-6OIXhPE?hd=1&t=1m40s |
| 19:32.00 | mikma | best killstreak i have ever seen |
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| 19:47.47 | Amarande | this guy's comment doesn't really quite get one of the concerns people have about xrealm ... |
| 19:47.49 | Amarande | "yeah the xrealms zones are fun..... but it doesnt fix the lack of mats on ah" |
| 19:47.52 | Amarande | *shakes head* |
| 19:48.47 | Amarande | the concern isn't a lack of mats on AH then, the concern *then* is that you much less often have the option of gathering your own mats (because there is much more competition) and therefore will often be mostly *forced* to buy them from the AH |
| 19:50.17 | Amarande | which I at least know is something I hate to do when I actually have the matching gathering profession, unless the gathering profession is not able to keep up with the manufacturing one (or in cases like Engineering, occasionally you need leather or the like) |
| 19:51.25 | Amarande | I think for engi I've only bought mats off AH in bulk in the form of thorium and runecloth (as I needed some runecloth to level engi, and then it was way cheap this week so I bought enough to finish off First Aid to 300 too), mostly because I knew I wouldn't get enough thorium naturally to get engi to 300 before the time to do BRD came and went, otherwise |
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| 20:10.47 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 20:10.49 | Stanzilla | sounds good |
| 20:14.30 | Gnarfoz | 4chan summer cup |
| 20:14.31 | Gnarfoz | wtf |
| 20:15.18 | Gnarfoz | http://www.livestream.com/barrel_roll / http://implyingrigged.com/index.php?title=2012_4chan_Summer_Cup |
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| 20:47.43 | zenzelezz | "so guys, to participate in the contest go comment here" (30 seconds) "yeah, the site is now down..." |
| 21:19.42 | kd3 | whee. 24 hours to go to finish downloading yesterday's beta build |
| 21:22.05 | nevcairiel | you need faster internetz |
| 21:22.17 | kd3 | yes |
| 21:29.53 | Gnarfoz | and I thought mine's slow |
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| 21:30.32 | Amarande | heh, is that what we should expect to look forward to for MoP release, too? |
| 21:30.37 | Amarande | actually, that makes me wonder now |
| 21:30.43 | Amarande | if Blizzard will want to time the release based on the time of the month |
| 21:30.59 | kd3 | no, they'll do the data reorganization thing like they have for every expansion past |
| 21:31.02 | Amarande | possibly either at the very beginning or very end of the month, but not the middle |
| 21:31.06 | kd3 | it's beta and we have bandwidth to spare |
| 21:31.20 | Amarande | ah |
| 21:31.32 | Amarande | I was thinking about how almost every ISP in so many parts of the world has a bandwidth cap |
| 21:31.45 | Amarande | and that gamers tend to also be things like active Netflixers and the like and thus have to actually worry about the cap |
| 21:32.02 | Amarande | (not to mention the amount of downloading games themselves call for in today's world of DD and 10GB+ games) |
| 21:32.19 | kd3 | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/517e7b89cb05608da7b4bc7ee4e6d228.png |
| 21:32.35 | Fisker | i'm the winner kd3 |
| 21:33.11 | Amarande | End of the month release = Good for Blizzard as it helps alleviate that initial release day rush if a lot of people are forced to wait a few days till the beginning of the month to play the expansion and thus one group of people (who have the cap to spare) get the patch immediately and the rest not till the next month |
| 21:33.13 | Dagmar | I wonder if Steam tracks how many people buy summer sales without bothering to download them becuae there's not enough damn hours in the day |
| 21:33.29 | Amarande | Beginning of the month release = Good for Blizzard as it helps them sell the most release day copies because people all have a fresh bandwidth cap to blow |
| 21:33.52 | Kaylin | I was like Blizzard releasing games at that time of the month? we're not all on the same schedule and what do they want us to do bitch about everything? oh right bandwidth caps. |
| 21:33.52 | Amarande | Middle of the month release = Crappy for Blizzard as people are going to be worrying about their cap by then, especially with a couple more weeks to go before reset |
| 21:35.12 | foxlit | Makes me wonder why they don't sell physical copies prior to the expansion's release. |
| 21:35.47 | Kaylin | that @ fox, I would buy a box copy if I could just walk up and get one a couple weeks before I needed it |
| 21:36.37 | Amarande | foxlit: the physical copies have not helped much |
| 21:36.45 | Amarande | if anything, apparently when cata came out it caused even more bandwidth to be used |
| 21:36.57 | Amarande | because installing the cata DVD puts you at 4.0.1 and then it has to pull 4.0.3a all over again |
| 21:37.29 | Dagmar | Wierd. I never installed from the CD. |
| 21:37.45 | Amarande | I don't think I've used CDs to install since BC |
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| 21:38.07 | Dagmar | I mean, eventually I'll get around to building an NSIS kit that can put the thing back on DVDs for backup purposes, but I can't even remember the last time I saw a WoW CD |
| 21:39.43 | Gnarfoz | because it's a DVD, mwahahaha. |
| 21:39.44 | Gnarfoz | :| |
| 21:42.36 | nebula169 | totally installed wow from like four cds |
| 21:42.57 | kd3 | wow and bc were a bunch of CDs, wrath was a dvd, wasn't it? |
| 21:43.02 | Gnarfoz | for US, yes. |
| 21:43.02 | nebula169 | yea |
| 21:43.15 | Gnarfoz | because for some reason, DVD drives weren't widespread there, yet, in 2004 |
| 21:43.24 | Gnarfoz | (EU was DVD from vanilla) |
| 21:43.59 | nebula169 | eu with their fancy fiber interwebs and shiny dvds |
| 21:44.13 | Gnarfoz | I wish I had fiber interwerbs :F |
| 21:45.43 | Stanzilla | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD3EuQq9WmQ&feature=player_embedded |
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| 22:00.48 | nevcairiel | was there any word if the dread wastes zone is already finished? It returns its map tiles all in upper case, that usually was a sign for not being done yet =P |
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| 22:18.49 | kd3 | afaik it's done unless they're planning something major I haven't heard about |
| 22:19.25 | kd3 | oh, wow |
| 22:19.30 | kd3 | slouken got hired by valve |
| 22:20.15 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 22:20.28 | zenzelezz | he's doing all right then |
| 22:20.36 | Torhal | Niice |
| 22:20.58 | kd3 | http://lists.libsdl.org/pipermail/sdl-libsdl.org/2012-July/085112.html |
| 22:21.28 | nevcairiel | now ask him if that valve job intro book was real! |
| 22:25.12 | Amarande | nice. well, nice and grats-worthy for him anyway :) |
| 22:25.28 | Amarande | kinda sucks for the community usually though when something like that happens :S |
| 22:26.40 | zenzelezz | which community? |
| 22:26.59 | nevcairiel | its been years since slouken was with us in UI dev, that part is over :p |
| 22:27.30 | Amarande | zenzelezz: a general thing, when someone prominent in a particular community gets hired by a major game company |
| 22:27.45 | Amarande | because usually that person's contributions are best-of-the-best, and the loss is noticeable |
| 22:28.04 | kd3 | I suspect he'll still work on sdl |
| 22:28.12 | nevcairiel | slouken was working for blizzard before |
| 22:28.20 | nevcairiel | its not like he is new to the big game company |
| 22:28.28 | Amarande | Like when The Brasse was doing all those wonderful maps for LOTRO and then got hired by Sony, and as a result, the only area of Moria that anyone has to my knowledge actually drawn a really *useful* map for is Foundations of Stone |
| 22:28.57 | Amarande | because the Turbine in-game maps are rubbish, and she never got the chance to draw the other Moria maps and never will since she'll surely only be allowed to draw maps for Sony IP now |
| 22:29.09 | Amarande | and when you're in Moria, you need a damn map :P |
| 22:29.16 | Alram | oh my god kd3 |
| 22:29.18 | Alram | that is the best news ever |
| 22:29.32 | zenzelezz | what's to know Amarande; just move away from the sound of drums |
| 22:29.40 | kd3 | I've been quite excited all afternoon |
| 22:30.49 | zenzelezz | I wonder what project(s) he'll be working on |
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| 22:30.58 | Amarande | zenzelezz: Moria is 1) a maze that's easy to get lost in, and 2) unlike almost every other area of LOTRO where the aggro radii are sufficiently small that you can avoid more than a few fights getting from A to B unless you really want to fight, the orcs are such that you pretty much are stuck fighting every one you pass |
| 22:31.03 | kd3 | source/steam for linux, presumably |
| 22:31.53 | Amarande | 3) the respawn rate in Moria is as bad as Zeth'Gor in WoW (or that one old tower in pre-cata Redridge), so when you find you've taken a wrong turn, you get to fight every orc you've beaten on the way down the path in order to get back where you were |
| 22:32.06 | Alram | zenzelezz, lets just say episode 3 |
| 22:32.11 | Alram | and have it over with |
| 22:32.14 | Amarande | and in LOTRO, while you can get away with fighting a lot fewer mobs than in WoW, you also tend to kill things a lot more slowly than in WoW unless you are a dedicated DPS class |
| 22:32.16 | zenzelezz | Amarande: I was making an awesome reference to what happened in the book |
| 22:32.24 | Amarande | oh, heh |
| 22:33.18 | Amarande | anyway, The Brasse drew far and away better maps than anyone else in the LOTRO community did, and then Sony went and snapped her up so you get to stay lost in Moria unless you want to stick entirely to FoS (which however is the top level zone in Moria, so you have to level through the other ones first) |
| 22:33.22 | nevcairiel | LOTOR was such a disappointed, such a great franchise, and such a crappy game |
| 22:33.27 | nevcairiel | LOTRO* |
| 22:33.36 | Amarande | I liked LOTRO until they decided to beat the pay to win drums |
| 22:38.09 | kd3 | ...a replay of the lawn chair+balloons fiasco? http://i.imgur.com/HpYPS.jpg |
| 22:38.37 | Kaylin | um, is that a person? |
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| 22:38.47 | kd3 | http://news.yahoo.com/ore-man-prepares-tandem-lawn-chair-balloon-launch-095201762.html |
| 22:46.35 | Amarande | Ackis: Bread of the Dead isn't classified properly in ARL, BTW |
| 22:46.44 | Amarande | it stays in the list even when "world events" is unchecked |
| 22:50.22 | Amarande | hrm, and apparently I need to go to Dire Maul |
| 22:50.28 | Amarande | which piece of DM is Pusillin in these days, LFD-wise? |
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| 22:51.14 | mckenziemc | east |
| 22:51.25 | Amarande | mckenziemc: they're not called East, North, and West in LFD anymore |
| 22:51.39 | mckenziemc | what are they called now |
| 22:51.40 | Amarande | is East "Warpwood Quarter", or is that West and Capital Gardens is East? |
| 22:51.52 | Amarande | Gordok Commons (which I presume is North), Warpwood Quarter, and Capital Gardens |
| 22:51.58 | mckenziemc | think warpwood is east but not sure |
| 22:52.03 | mckenziemc | yeah it must be |
| 22:53.41 | nevcairiel | west at least is the one with all the trees wandering around |
| 23:04.17 | mckenziemc | east is the warpwood quarter but west has the boss Tendris Warpwood >.> |
| 23:07.02 | zenzelezz | http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/07/14/217242/valve-continues-recruiting-top-linux-talent slouken (among others) made Slashdot |
| 23:29.23 | mikma | lol what, he's at steam now |
| 23:36.53 | Fisker | old zenzelezz |
| 23:37.08 | Fisker | and no mikma he's not at a computer software |
| 23:37.26 | mckenziemc | stops Fisker. |
| 23:37.32 | Fisker | i can't be stopped |
| 23:37.44 | Kaylin | terminates Fisker. |
| 23:50.21 | foxlit | hm, anno 2070? |
| 23:52.16 | mikma | anus 2012 |
| 23:52.39 | foxlit | thanks for sharing your preferences, mikma, but I can't help you there. |
| 23:53.15 | Fisker | hemad foxlit |
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