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| 00:01.47 | kd3 | ugh. I take my computer apart because a fan's buzzing (too much dust). just as I'm getting to the fan in question (a job in itself), I get a call from work |
| 00:02.34 | kd3 | "kd3, drop what you're doing and get in here now. the espresso machine blew up." "uh, what do you expect me to do other than call our maintenance techs? shouldn't you have already called them?" "it doesn't matter, get in here now!" |
| 00:02.48 | Primer | "I quit" |
| 00:02.56 | Unkle | So, what you're saying is… the entire box is in pieces all over your desk and now it's going to be hours before you get it back together. |
| 00:03.14 | Primer | I think in other words he's saying "I work at Starbucks" |
| 00:03.15 | kd3 | this was around 10 this morning. I got home two hours ago and cannibalized a fan from elsewhere just so the HDDs won't overheat |
| 00:03.21 | Unkle | Because your work's "Security blanket" |
| 00:03.47 | kd3 | something still buzzing, at least it's not a horrendous whrrring like the (now-bad) fan was |
| 00:03.52 | kd3 | sighs |
| 00:04.17 | Unkle | kd3: Do you notice a distinct increase in fan activity while running the MoP beta? |
| 00:04.34 | kd3 | not really; most of my fans are wired directly to the psu |
| 00:04.49 | kd3 | I keep hearing that complaint, though |
| 00:05.03 | Unkle | The cooling fan on my video card goes into overdrive while playing MoP. |
| 00:05.39 | Unkle | At first I thought it was just my imagination, then I thought it was dirty, now … it's the client. I'm sure of it. |
| 00:05.57 | Primer | surely the client has no direct control of your GPU fan |
| 00:06.04 | Unkle | But I thought I'd see if it was happening tto others too. |
| 00:06.31 | Unkle | No, but the client demands a lot of work from the GPU, the GPU gets hot, the fan works harder to expel the heat. |
| 00:06.32 | kd3 | no, but if it's being stupid with the graphics hardware, the driver should up the fan to compensate |
| 00:06.49 | Primer | one would only hope |
| 00:06.58 | Primer | I know that nvidia cards don't do that by default |
| 00:07.10 | Unkle | And if it's doing something stupid (Ogrila invisible flying rabbits anyone?) then… |
| 00:07.10 | Primer | I had to install a third party program in windows to make that happen |
| 00:08.46 | Unkle | I have an nVida card (an ASUS branded over-clocked GeForce GTX 460) and the fan changes speed based on GPU heat. |
| 00:10.10 | kd3 | the really fucked up thing is, the espressofix(SM) guys had no idea what went wrong with our $several-thousand machine... they were able to jury-rig a solution just so we could open back up, but gah |
| 00:10.22 | kd3 | at least we aren't selling all that much in the way of hot drinks in 90+F heat |
| 00:10.50 | Unkle | Lots of iced coffee? |
| 00:10.57 | kd3 | frapps, mostly |
| 00:11.13 | kd3 | we had a fourth-quarter week last week... 58% of it was frappuccinos |
| 00:12.26 | Unkle | Oh, and for those that heard me complain on Friday, Saturday morning I got a refund from Curse's Wowstead for the mistaken double-billing. :) No questions, no hassle, just "ping - money back in your account" |
| 00:14.26 | Gnarfoz | <Primer> I know that nvidia cards don't do that by default <-- errr... except, not |
| 00:15.12 | Gnarfoz | maybe you have some kind of ancient model from before the internet when fan speed adjustment didn't even exist, but otherwise... just no |
| 00:15.52 | Gnarfoz | while I'm quite certain the card can do it on its own anyway: are you sure you have nvidia drivers installed? :D |
| 00:19.25 | Dagmar | Actually nVidia cards do adjust their fans on the fly by default |
| 00:19.58 | Dagmar | The default global setting is to let the card sleep as much as possible, so... unless you're doing a bunch of 3D rendering, the thing ain't workin' real hard so it can save power |
| 00:20.20 | Dagmar | It's not that bad of an idea to tell it to turn that off and just run full-tilt when you're running WoW |
| 00:20.46 | Primer | Gnarfoz: I have 2 machines where it didn't do that |
| 00:20.48 | Dagmar | I've seen it cause a bit of juddering when the game isn't doing a lot and the card decides it's okay to ratchet back a bit |
| 00:21.12 | Primer | I have a 570 in one machine and a 4xx something series in another |
| 00:21.19 | Dagmar | Primer: When/if to do speed control on the fans is up to the OEM |
| 00:21.23 | Primer | neither does any appreciable fan speed increase |
| 00:21.27 | Gnarfoz | Primer: then someone's probably trying to be smarter than they should and failing |
| 00:21.38 | Gnarfoz | (i.e. "optimizations") |
| 00:21.39 | Dagmar | My 550Ti does it rather readily |
| 00:21.46 | Primer | both will start to produce artifacts and driver resets |
| 00:22.05 | Primer | I had to install that third party app before either would do it |
| 00:22.05 | Gnarfoz | that rather sounds like broken cards :p |
| 00:22.18 | Gnarfoz | no, they app is doing it now |
| 00:22.18 | Primer | plus I know other people where the same thing was happening to them |
| 00:22.21 | Gnarfoz | not the cards |
| 00:22.25 | Gnarfoz | -y |
| 00:22.25 | Primer | to the extent where their cards fried |
| 00:22.46 | Primer | I even asked if they ever heard their fans spin up and they said no |
| 00:22.49 | Gnarfoz | still doesn't lend itself to "nvidia cards don't do that by default" - because they do |
| 00:23.15 | Primer | perhaps that requires sticking to the OEM drivers then |
| 00:23.45 | Dagmar | Nah, they always ship WHQL versions of nVidia drivers. Some will install _other_ utilities of their own tho |
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| 00:25.40 | Dagmar | People screwing around wiht the firmware on their cards are probably flirting with disaster tho |
| 00:25.55 | Amarande | ... stupid place to put an obsidium ore node |
| 00:25.59 | Amarande | STUPIDEST PLACE EVER TO PUT AN ORE NODE |
| 00:26.20 | Dagmar | I've also seen one case where the nForce drivers made a bad choice and reflashed an add-on card when they were looking at the integrated card |
| 00:26.32 | Amarande | on Turalyon at Mount Hyjal right now there's this obsidium ore node like, literally right under Baron Geddon |
| 00:26.35 | Dagmar | ASUS kinda screwed up with one of their M2N78 boards that way |
| 00:26.40 | Amarande | doesn't seem I can pick it up without dying :P |
| 00:26.41 | Dagmar | THe damn thing would stay exposed |
| 00:26.50 | kd3 | then... leave it? |
| 00:26.50 | Primer | Amarande: and you still want to mine it, right? |
| 00:27.00 | Dagmar | Hire some newb to run interference. ;) |
| 00:27.00 | Amarande | Primer: Did Durin want the mithril? :) |
| 00:28.46 | Amarande | Dagmar: actually that wouldn't help, it's more like it's in the fixed 4000-a-second flame dot aura area |
| 00:28.52 | Amarande | and apparently at level 80 I don't have enough HP :| |
| 00:29.00 | Dagmar | You're not fireproof enough |
| 00:29.13 | Dagmar | Stack up FR like you're doing old-school dragon runs |
| 00:31.05 | Dagmar | Waitaminit... Doesn't the damage interrupt the channeling of mining? |
| 00:33.11 | Amarande | Not sure if it does or if it's considered a DoT |
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| 00:33.21 | sintAcks | heh. haven't seen that many addons have an update on curse in a while.. 9 of them. |
| 00:33.24 | Stanzilla | oh android 4.1 is out |
| 00:33.32 | Amarande | AFAIK, DoT ticks don't interrupt anything except for bandages |
| 00:33.35 | sintAcks | 'tis a good thing though. means people are working on making them work in 5.0 |
| 00:33.44 | Amarande | and CC that breaks on damage? |
| 00:34.26 | Amarande | Wouldn't be the first time I've died trying to get a tempting ore node, and not the first time I've died trying to get a tempting ore node on THAT character either. |
| 00:34.38 | Amarande | This is the same warlock who had her experiences with the Titanium Node O' Doom in Icecrown |
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| 00:37.12 | Amarande | That titanium node actually killed at least *two* characters, heh |
| 00:37.37 | mckenziemc | that's why you skip it |
| 00:52.35 | Amarande | yeah, it's obsidium, I believe I will do just that |
| 00:52.48 | Amarande | titanium was actually rare enough to be worth trying to carve your way through to it, and dying when you forgot to clean things out properly |
| 00:52.57 | Amarande | actually, that was the fault of my video settings partly |
| 00:53.18 | Amarande | that was that part of Icecrown where there's a bazillion zombies milling around in a relatively flat basinish area |
| 00:53.50 | Amarande | my video was slowing down like mad there (that and at the time when I was in Icecrown if I was so much as FACING Dalaran, even if it was way far in the distance, I would slow like sludge), so I lowered the graphics settings |
| 00:54.06 | Amarande | and didn't know I was surrounded by way too many zombies until I landed and tried to take the titanium ... |
| 01:06.19 | Amarande | hmmm. addon related or known glitch/WAI? items in the mailbox always show as having 0/0 durability |
| 01:08.11 | foxlit | heh, no more thunderbird? :/ |
| 01:08.28 | mckenziemc | ? |
| 01:08.40 | xyphoid | the headline was a bit of a misnomer for that wasn't it |
| 01:08.48 | xyphoid | like they're just slowing down new development and will carry on maintaining it indefinitely |
| 01:09.07 | Stanzilla | it's bugfixes only |
| 01:09.14 | Stanzilla | and no mozilla people working on features |
| 01:09.18 | Kaylin | :( |
| 01:10.08 | Gnarfoz | big deal? as they pointed out, barely anyone cares about a ton of new features in it |
| 01:10.37 | Amarande | no more thunderbird? |
| 01:10.42 | Amarande | what email client are we going to use now, then? |
| 01:11.20 | Kaylin | me? thunderbird |
| 01:11.21 | xyphoid | thunderbird |
| 01:12.24 | Amarande | granted, I'm already having issues with thunderbird these days |
| 01:12.44 | Amarande | for some reason, if I don't turn off "save messages to sent folder", every time I send a message it hangs on doing so |
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| 01:15.12 | kd3 | http://theoatmeal.com/blog/charity_money |
| 01:15.30 | kd3 | I'm not sure I could stomach walking out of a bank with 211k in a duffel bag |
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| 01:22.49 | foxlit | xyphoid: indeed, that headline sucked. |
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| 01:24.10 | karl_w_w | are u shittin me |
| 01:24.16 | karl_w_w | ok who wants a mop beta 2 |
| 01:24.28 | karl_w_w | beta key* |
| 01:24.37 | karl_w_w | weird typing spasm |
| 01:25.16 | Amarande | hrm |
| 01:25.16 | Amarande | did people stop creating tanks or something? |
| 01:25.51 | Primer | karl_w_w: my son does |
| 01:26.50 | Amarande | it seems like the last 10 or so times I've queued for dungeons it's [ ] Tank [X X X] DPS [X] Healer for several minutes before a tank finally shows up |
| 01:27.03 | xyphoid | you need to be subbed for the beta right |
| 01:27.15 | Amarande | Also, they really, really need to effing do something about this particular thing about LFD that I've noticed has been the case ever since it came out. |
| 01:27.21 | xyphoid | Amarande, i've missed your comments so |
| 01:27.24 | Amarande | Namely, when you wipe, and everyone decides to give up and drop group |
| 01:27.38 | Amarande | whoever is slowest on the trigger finger gets to have to walk back in *and then blow their hearth to get back to where they were* |
| 01:28.01 | Amarande | because, surprise, you're no longer in the dungeon group! so you can't use teleport out of dungeon anymore and have to use normal means of getting out of the dungeon! |
| 01:28.22 | Kaylin | you can queue to finish if it's been less than 5 min I think |
| 01:28.35 | Kaylin | puts you at the front of the queue |
| 01:28.37 | Unkle | That's not a problem. You can still "exit group" and poof - back where you were. |
| 01:28.42 | Kaylin | or if you;re still inside |
| 01:30.05 | mckenziemc | that was fixed long ago, amarande |
| 01:30.20 | mckenziemc | granted, there's still a related bug |
| 01:30.51 | Amarande | yeah, if you do it before you release, it'll force you to being in the dungeon "naturally" and force you to use normal means to get out |
| 01:31.01 | Amarande | because "you can't do that when you're dead" |
| 01:32.48 | Amarande | but it uses up your teleport and removes you from the group |
| 01:33.31 | mckenziemc | then don't do that |
| 01:42.35 | Amarande | Gah, what IS with the lack of tanks in leveling instances, though |
| 01:42.41 | Amarande | do people not make new tanks anymore? |
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| 01:48.31 | karl_w_w | pandora in australia! |
| 01:48.46 | karl_w_w | i ca stop hating all you people now |
| 01:49.28 | Amarande | great, I guess I'm not getting a dungeon done tonight |
| 01:49.44 | Amarande | it seems like the only tank in town in LFD is this one pally who seems to be as competent as a box of rocks |
| 01:49.52 | Kaylin | heh |
| 01:49.54 | Amarande | so every time I do get into a group, it's him |
| 01:49.55 | Kaylin | I tried a few days ago |
| 01:50.03 | Amarande | and he's got three of his guildies with him, so I'm sure if I say anything it's vote kick for me |
| 01:50.20 | Kaylin | had a group of 5 or so people from Mal'Ganis chain pulling ultraxion and then blaming it on random people in the group and being like KICK play X they're pulling the boss |
| 01:50.33 | Kaylin | I called them out on it and they kicked me it was pretty bad. |
| 01:50.40 | Amarande | Fail'Ganis. |
| 01:50.47 | Amarande | This is why the Cross-Realm stuff is a bad idea. |
| 01:50.51 | Kaylin | I'm sure that realm can't be all jerks but |
| 01:50.59 | Amarande | You have to not only pick your realm based on its own people, but on that of every other realm in the datacentre. |
| 01:51.05 | Kaylin | idk I have yet to experience good things from there |
| 01:51.34 | Amarande | Or battlegroup as it used to be but still, you get Ysera and Turalyon lumped in with crap like Mal'Ganis and, apparently, Kel'Thuzad is not too good either |
| 01:52.33 | Amarande | Probably not a good group to Scholo with. |
| 01:52.41 | Amarande | On the one hand, I was the ONLY cloth, and THIS I WANT. |
| 01:52.59 | Amarande | I should be so lucky if EVERY group I do Scholo with has exclusively leather and up as the rest of the group ... |
| 01:53.27 | Amarande | On the other hand, I have a feeling that the shaman was just waiting to ninja Alanna's off me if it dropped, and have me vote kicked (guildies, after all) if I complained |
| 01:55.20 | Amarande | anyway, I'm still wondering why there are plenty of healers in LFD at the lower levels (42 at this point), but almost no tanks |
| 01:56.11 | mckenziemc | goto sleep Amarande |
| 01:56.24 | methylene | I wrote a Raid Inspection Library for MoP where would be the best place to link it? on the forums? |
| 01:57.04 | Amarande | :P mckenziemc, it's only about 10PM East Coast right now |
| 01:57.07 | Amarande | this should be peak hours |
| 01:57.22 | Primer | meh, you can just have a plate DPS tank at that level |
| 01:57.49 | Amarande | yeah, but nobody's queuing as tank |
| 01:57.57 | xyphoid | i dunno about you, but last time i was lfd'ing, i queued as dps on plate dps |
| 01:58.05 | mckenziemc | i could queue as a tank, but you're on |
| 01:58.13 | Amarande | xyphoid: couldn't be much worse than the tank that I had the last couple of runs |
| 01:58.18 | xyphoid | because tanking is such an awful experience |
| 01:58.27 | Amarande | I think the group I keep getting put with has failed to complete the instance two or three times in a row now |
| 01:58.35 | Amarande | and we're talking like, scholo and Dire Maul |
| 02:00.19 | xyphoid | i'm pretty sure questing is faster than lfd for levelling these days |
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| 02:11.51 | Amarande | yeah, perhaps so. although there's part of me that really thinks I should stop and queue only for Scholo until I hit 49 and can no longer do so |
| 02:12.41 | Amarande | mostly, that nagging feeling that unless I play a LOT more than I do nowadays, MoP will be out well before I'm high enough level to solo it easily and one of the drops from it is apparently to be a lost forever with MoP |
| 02:15.21 | karl_w_w | really? i cant think of anything interesting that drops in scholo |
| 02:17.17 | Amarande | Alanna's Embrace epic robe |
| 02:17.30 | Amarande | (hence why I was all excited that the group I had got had no other cloth users) |
| 02:18.35 | Amarande | although I'm starting to think the robe from Amnennar may look better, as far as purple/purplish robes go |
| 02:20.05 | Amarande | ... and speaking of Amnennar GAH not again |
| 02:20.12 | Amarande | I forgot to turn in the quest after finishing the instance :| |
| 02:20.18 | Amarande | ah well, there's two more quests I need to do in RFD anyway |
| 02:20.53 | karl_w_w | i always do that |
| 02:21.21 | karl_w_w | they should make all levelling dungeon quests turned in to the interface |
| 02:23.22 | Amarande | yay satchel of "helpful" goods |
| 02:23.33 | Amarande | strength, stamina, and dodge rating. everything a leveling mage needs. |
| 02:24.28 | mckenziemc | you can get those on cloth from a satchel? |
| 02:24.58 | karl_w_w | yes mckenziemc |
| 02:25.04 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 02:25.08 | karl_w_w | you can get anything on anything afaik |
| 02:29.52 | Amarande | mckenziemc: it was a ring |
| 02:30.14 | Amarande | you get plenty of wrong-stat rings and necklaces from satchels, sadly |
| 02:33.56 | Unkle | It only promises you something extra, not that it will be something awesome. |
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| 02:39.18 | kd3 | hmm... my HDDs are all in the 40s |
| 02:39.35 | kd3 | not horrible, but still a bit on the warm side |
| 02:40.53 | Adys | what's the main way to interact with dynamodb? anyone uses it? |
| 02:43.07 | Amarande | kd3: heat is apparently considered a sign of aging |
| 02:43.36 | Amarande | at least, the SMART category that has to do with operating temperature is labeled under "old age" as I recall |
| 02:48.12 | pompy | Adys: http://aws.amazon.com/dynamodb ? |
| 02:48.18 | Adys | yes |
| 02:48.21 | kd3 | in smart, everything is either old_age or Pre-fail |
| 02:48.39 | kd3 | even for drives fresh from the factory |
| 02:49.27 | karl_w_w | wow i love this savedinstances addon |
| 02:49.41 | karl_w_w | every time you think it cant get better the guy adds another feature |
| 02:54.45 | pompy | </sarcasm> ? ;p |
| 02:57.17 | mckenziemc | feature creep? |
| 02:57.21 | Adys | pompy: hard to tell |
| 02:58.24 | karl_w_w | why would that be sarcasm |
| 03:02.16 | Ackis | @project savedinstances |
| 03:02.25 | Ackis | meh |
| 03:02.48 | mckenziemc | ~smackis |
| 03:02.48 | purl | ACTION smacks Ackis. |
| 03:05.04 | Unkle | Actually, that reminds me… I should write an AddOn just to send Ackis a smack every time he logins. |
| 03:05.22 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 03:06.33 | pompy | karl_w_w: well thats oscarucb for ya |
| 03:08.41 | karl_w_w | ikr |
| 03:10.05 | Kaylin | I think I just found something I can sell to nerds on the AH |
| 03:10.06 | Kaylin | www.wowhead.com/item=14924/lofty-breastplate |
| 03:11.35 | karl_w_w | s/nerds/teenagers/ |
| 03:11.45 | Kaylin | :P |
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| 03:13.42 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBZZFHxW3JA love the bass in this tune |
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| 03:33.07 | pompy | http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/295196_258531167592705_1335582295_n.jpg |
| 03:57.05 | p3lim | karl_w_w: http://tinyurl.com/cmwtz3d |
| 03:58.11 | karl_w_w | wtf they changed the way buyout price sorts on the AH |
| 03:58.27 | karl_w_w | that's right p3lim |
| 03:58.42 | p3lim | Not bad tho |
| 03:59.23 | p3lim | Anyways, time for a client upgrade, back later |
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| 04:56.58 | Adys | lol |
| 04:57.01 | Adys | http://i.imgur.com/M8tet.png |
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| 05:41.47 | karl_w_w | why's that funny adys |
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| 05:58.39 | AcidWeb | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=21089#comments |
| 05:58.43 | AcidWeb | Stevenlandry comment. |
| 05:58.54 | AcidWeb | Im still sleeping or there is no error there? |
| 06:01.12 | Thunder_Child | coding not that i see, gramactical yes. |
| 06:02.36 | AcidWeb | heh. Thank you. |
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| 06:16.24 | karl_w_w | AcidWeb: remember eots rated has clicky cap points like AB's |
| 06:18.17 | Adys | karl_w_w: its a seinfeld reference |
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| 06:18.24 | Adys | google "master of your domain" or something |
| 06:18.24 | AcidWeb | Whoa. I completely forgot about that. |
| 06:18.38 | AcidWeb | karl_w_w: Thanks. |
| 06:19.10 | karl_w_w | Adys: ah I see. I wouldn't get it because I only watch good TV |
| 06:19.30 | AcidWeb | karl_w_w: The central flag is working normally? |
| 06:19.45 | karl_w_w | no idea |
| 06:19.45 | karl_w_w | :P |
| 06:20.06 | karl_w_w | i havent tested it, i just saw the comment on curse |
| 06:20.08 | AcidWeb | I dont played RBG so long that i forgot about that change ;p |
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| 07:04.31 | bluspacecow | old but bears repeating : http://theoatmeal.com/blog/charity_money |
| 07:11.56 | Adys | The "Bid" and "Buyout" buttons will now be correctly grayed-out in the confirmation window when attempting to purchase an item with insufficient gold |
| 07:12.01 | Adys | SERIOUSLY |
| 07:12.17 | Adys | Give a fucking INTERFACE FOR IT god damn it |
| 07:21.45 | bluspacecow | u mad ? |
| 07:22.47 | Arrowmaster | http://i.imgur.com/UbFbq.jpg |
| 07:23.37 | bluspacecow | http://t.co/YQzruiLB |
| 07:25.48 | Adys | http://www.reddit.com/r/shittyfoodporn |
| 07:25.51 | Adys | OH GOD I want to vomit. |
| 07:25.55 | Adys | (sfw) |
| 07:33.37 | Fisker | old bluspacecow |
| 07:33.49 | bluspacecow | i hungry fisker |
| 07:34.31 | karl_w_w | bluspacecow: cheese on toast |
| 07:34.40 | bluspacecow | kk BRB |
| 07:35.34 | Corrodias | i don't know what a "mi goreng" pizza is, but it looks okay |
| 07:35.40 | karl_w_w | im so damn happy that we have pandora back |
| 07:37.18 | Corrodias | a lot of the food actually looks bad, but others are just unflattering photos of food that looks really pleasing |
| 07:37.33 | Corrodias | i'll take a dozen orders of the latter |
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| 07:38.28 | Corrodias | that "A breakfast fit for a king.", pepperoni omelette, i would totally eat right now if i didn't just finish eating |
| 07:41.03 | Arrowmaster | yeah i noticed that one too, looks great |
| 07:44.33 | Corrodias | second page... not so good |
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| 08:37.49 | sintAcks | bluspacecow retweets weird shit |
| 08:37.59 | bluspacecow | woot |
| 08:38.15 | mckenziemc | sics a grizzly bear mother & cub on bluspacecow |
| 08:38.53 | bluspacecow | lololol u mad? |
| 08:39.00 | mckenziemc | (bears repeating) |
| 08:45.44 | sintAcks | What's with all this "OMG A PIZZA VENDOING MACHINE" shit... |
| 08:45.48 | sintAcks | that thing's been out for two years |
| 08:46.20 | bluspacecow | *hides* |
| 08:49.39 | sintAcks | http://i.imgur.com/NppgU.png |
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| 09:40.53 | karl_w_w | sicks on mckenziemc |
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| 10:12.59 | F16Gaming | hm |
| 10:13.14 | F16Gaming | what are these CVars? ChatMusicVolume, ChatSoundVolume, ChatAmbienceVolume |
| 10:13.23 | bluspacecow | idunnolol |
| 10:13.32 | F16Gaming | just noticed them when checking Config.wtf |
| 10:14.38 | bluspacecow | go console mode and see if you use the help command on them |
| 10:14.48 | bluspacecow | helpl ChatMusicVolume |
| 10:15.06 | bluspacecow | *help |
| 10:16.18 | F16Gaming | right |
| 10:16.25 | F16Gaming | what was the key to open console on EU keyboards? |
| 10:16.41 | bluspacecow | hmmmm |
| 10:17.08 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:17.32 | F16Gaming | no luck on tilde (both where it's located on US keyboards and the location on EU-Swedish ones) |
| 10:18.16 | F16Gaming | oh wait of course |
| 10:18.24 | F16Gaming | "Changing your Keyboard layout to Temporarily be to UK English." |
| 10:19.24 | F16Gaming | not much help from it: http://i.imgur.com/NlUkf.png |
| 10:19.44 | bluspacecow | heh |
| 10:20.08 | bluspacecow | something to do with voice chat maybe |
| 10:21.33 | F16Gaming | broadcast music in the voice chat? :o |
| 10:22.58 | AcidWeb | more likely is something that reduce music volume when somebody is talking |
| 10:24.12 | F16Gaming | oh i see |
| 10:24.15 | F16Gaming | WoWPedia ftw |
| 10:24.17 | F16Gaming | "ChatMusicVolume - Volume setting for game music while in voice chat " |
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| 12:25.04 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://imgur.com/gallery/P9aOd |
| 12:36.30 | mikma | rtharper: accidental gayness: i tried to type ebay.com and it turned out to be ebgay.com |
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| 12:39.30 | mikma | "mommy said i could become anything, so i became a planet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12zPU-8bsTE " |
| 12:39.57 | Lopeppeppy | Should have laid off the twinkies, mikma |
| 12:40.09 | mikma | lopeppeppy: ouch |
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| 13:44.18 | karl_w_w | so mad Lopeppeppy |
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| 14:40.16 | zenzelezz | note to self: next time you move stuff from one tower to another, make note of which SATA ports the different harddrives are connected to |
| 14:40.22 | zenzelezz | LVM was not happy |
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| 14:51.52 | karl_w_w | http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/399428_10150970213711985_722023812_n.jpg doesn't that look like a guy with a really long arm at first glance? |
| 14:53.48 | mitch0 | what guy? |
| 14:55.33 | karl_w_w | mitch0: the one with the long arm :P |
| 14:55.55 | karl_w_w | the one who appears tallest |
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| 16:54.59 | Jamash | zenzelezz: l2uuid |
| 16:55.31 | zenzelezz | Jamash: I'm pretty sure I need to learn more than just that |
| 16:55.49 | Jamash | not really |
| 16:55.54 | zenzelezz | thankfully I backed up my por.. files beforehand |
| 16:57.26 | Jamash | /dev/disk/by-* |
| 16:58.57 | zenzelezz | what does that do? |
| 16:59.32 | Jamash | zenzelezz@lmgtfy$ ls -l /dev/disk/by-* |
| 17:00.28 | zenzelezz | hm, I wonder if that would have worked |
| 17:00.46 | zenzelezz | kept complaining about missing filesystem block or such |
| 17:00.55 | Jamash | I've never used LLVM personally, but md can find partitions by UUID instead of explicit device name |
| 17:01.10 | Jamash | s/LL/L/ |
| 17:01.23 | Jamash | I expect LVM does something similar |
| 17:01.41 | zenzelezz | probably, I'm not very familiar with the details |
| 17:02.07 | zenzelezz | all I'm really using it for is to combine two 2 TB drives into one partition; does md handle that in any easy(ish) to understand fashion? |
| 17:02.20 | Jamash | jbod or raid0? |
| 17:02.55 | zenzelezz | probably the former |
| 17:03.08 | durcyn | don't believe md has a jbod mode |
| 17:03.53 | Jamash | dunno, I only use it for raid0 |
| 17:03.55 | Jamash | I mean raid1 |
| 17:04.00 | Jamash | I'm awake |
| 17:04.53 | Jamash | anyway I'm just using md as an example of something that can address partitions by uuid |
| 17:05.02 | Jamash | you should look at the LVM docs |
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| 17:05.10 | pompy | hm patch 1.0.3b today |
| 17:05.40 | durcyn | and LVM2 should already be using UUIDs for member disks |
| 17:05.55 | Jamash | at one point I thought about setting up all my disks in an LVM storage pool and then setting up md raid1 on top but I didn't because really, why |
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| 17:06.43 | Jamash | hm, the internet says LVM can do mirroring |
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| 17:07.39 | bluipodcow | @pompy u on mac or pc ? |
| 17:07.47 | pompy | pc |
| 17:08.44 | bluipodcow | be about 4 mb , just over |
| 17:12.13 | pompy | yeah very small unexciting patch |
| 17:12.14 | pompy | heh |
| 17:12.17 | pompy | http://www.diablofans.com/blizz-tracker/topic/229329-public-games-matchmaking-clarification/ |
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| 17:40.11 | Lopeppeppy | I need bail monies. |
| 17:40.21 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 17:42.35 | bluipodcow | Monkey ball monies |
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| 17:43.32 | zenzelezz | who do you need to bail out peppy? |
| 17:43.53 | Lopeppeppy | It's project crunch time, and we ain't got no stinking cooperation from the constituents/clients/ |
| 17:46.12 | zenzelezz | so you're going to kill them? |
| 17:46.17 | Unkle | Lopeppeppy: I will bail you out for anything up GBH, but not Attempted Murder. |
| 17:48.47 | Lopeppeppy | How do they tell the difference between GBH and attempted murder, anyway? |
| 17:49.02 | Lopeppeppy | "Oh, judge, really, I was only gonna pound the crap out of him. It's his fault he died!" |
| 17:50.41 | Unkle | That's manslaughter. :) |
| 17:54.05 | zenzelezz | putting the laughter in manslaughter |
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| 17:57.36 | Lopeppeppy | Is manslaughter higher than GBH? |
| 17:57.42 | Lopeppeppy | Just checking my ladder of options here. |
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| 18:10.48 | foxlit | Lopeppeppy: "Oh, judge, really, I was only gonna pound the crap out of him. It's his fault he died!" << the internet once told me you're responsible for all consequences of your crimes, even the ones you didn't or couldn't have foreseen. |
| 18:11.30 | Lopeppeppy | "I'll be the victim!" "...all your life." |
| 18:13.37 | Lopeppeppy | Everything I need to know about life I learned from Wednesday Addams. |
| 18:14.40 | Unkle | Let's play a game, it's called "executinon." |
| 18:16.07 | Lopeppeppy | Is that knife for your brother? I don't think so. |
| 18:17.01 | bluipodcow | @unkle wot dat? |
| 18:17.51 | mckenziemc | steps on bluipodcow |
| 18:18.20 | nilyaK | crackedscreencow |
| 18:18.26 | bluipodcow | Execution I can understand. But executinon? |
| 18:18.54 | bluipodcow | Sounds like something you do to an onion |
| 18:19.02 | nilyaK | xeqtin |
| 18:19.43 | Lopeppeppy | Extinction. what you do to smart mouth space cows. :P |
| 18:19.58 | mckenziemc | D: |
| 18:20.34 | Unkle | Let's play a new game. Spot the typo. |
| 18:21.28 | End_ | fit |
| 18:21.31 | End_ | whoops |
| 18:21.38 | mckenziemc | run for your life smartmouth cracked screen space cow |
| 18:21.44 | End_ | (I meant to ^A :fit of course) |
| 18:22.37 | bluipodcow | *hifes* |
| 18:26.14 | Unkle | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/07/99-ouya-wants-to-bust-down-console-gamings-walled-gardens/ |
| 18:28.18 | Fisker | old Unkle |
| 18:29.44 | mckenziemc | young Fisker |
| 18:29.51 | Fisker | hey mckenziemc |
| 18:31.20 | mikma | unkle: old :( |
| 18:31.38 | Unkle | I don't care. |
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| 18:33.26 | Unkle | This line makes the entire piece, " The operating system on the Ouya is fully rootable, as well, meaning we’re sure to see a Linux distro for the box roughly five microseconds after it’s available in the wild." |
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| 18:43.26 | TC-Work | ~ping |
| 18:43.26 | purl | ~pong |
| 18:44.45 | Fisker | how so Unkle ? |
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| 18:45.07 | mikma | unkle: old old and old |
| 18:45.12 | Fisker | so old |
| 18:45.14 | Fisker | but still |
| 18:49.23 | mckenziemc | btw Unkle thank you for sharing that |
| 18:49.30 | mckenziemc | stabs Fisker and mikma |
| 18:50.38 | Elkano | cheers |
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| 18:54.10 | mckenziemc | welcome back bluipodcow; did you get your screen replaced? |
| 18:55.11 | bluipodcow | Nah o just patched over with glad wrap |
| 18:55.23 | Fisker | hey mckenziemc |
| 18:55.32 | Fisker | i just farted |
| 18:55.41 | Fisker | thank me for sharing that |
| 18:56.07 | TC-Work | fart sniffer? |
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| 18:57.45 | Fisker | hmm |
| 18:57.47 | Fisker | no thanks :( |
| 18:59.00 | pompy | http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/482078_10151002771549333_169470703_n.jpg truth |
| 18:59.31 | Mihau | pompy: Because fuck it, I want to have fun. |
| 19:00.00 | Maldivia | ok - NSFW, but.... wtf - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=510xKj6yCXQ |
| 19:00.16 | pompy | i have to sign in to view! |
| 19:01.32 | pompy | lol hm the studio behind ted had some companies advertise ted in their commercials |
| 19:01.35 | pompy | really weird |
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| 19:04.38 | Maldivia | and something for the dog-lovers - still on the slightly nsfw side - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhzckFB1NyY |
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| 19:18.47 | nevcairiel | Hm, this animation api is weird |
| 19:18.59 | nevcairiel | Say, i have a animation and i use a Translation to move some texture around |
| 19:19.11 | nevcairiel | is there a way to manually reset the texture position without another translation? |
| 19:19.25 | nevcairiel | (because the animation is from framexml, but i want to undo it) |
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| 19:36.59 | Unkle | This should amuse people: I just used Facetime on my Mac to talk someone through setting up their iPad and to suggest using Google+ Hangouts for more in-depth video conferencing. |
| 19:38.04 | Lopeppeppy | is D-E-D of apple buzzwords |
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| 20:03.27 | Gragagrogog | hi, any knows how to get current Stance now that they have disappeared from UnitAuras ? |
| 20:04.43 | Gragagrogog | nvm, found it... it uses shapeshift functions |
| 20:09.39 | Ackis | my guild is server transferring in two weeks and I won't be going with them :'( |
| 20:10.22 | Ackis | on an unrelated note, I'm 32 in the world for number of mini-pets /cheerself |
| 20:10.34 | Stanzilla | how many do you have? |
| 20:10.53 | Ackis | 204 |
| 20:10.57 | Stanzilla | nicve |
| 20:11.01 | Stanzilla | I have 184 |
| 20:11.27 | Ackis | I can get one more easily enough, just a bit lazy... the newest tcg pet |
| 20:11.27 | Stanzilla | how many does #1 have? |
| 20:11.33 | Ackis | #1 is 208 |
| 20:12.03 | Stanzilla | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/zirkel-des-cenarius/Arc%C3%A1dia/companion#status=not-collected |
| 20:12.07 | Ackis | I could plausibly get 208 as I'm only missing 4 that I could actually acquire |
| 20:12.37 | Ackis | http://www.guildox.com/go/g.asp?a=20 |
| 20:13.00 | Ackis | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/scarlet-crusade/Ackis/companion#status=not-collected |
| 20:13.13 | Ackis | + murkey |
| 20:13.18 | Ackis | s/murkey/murky/ |
| 20:13.23 | Stanzilla | lumpy was easy though |
| 20:13.36 | Ackis | lumpy was rng |
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| 20:15.38 | End_ | huh apparently I have 173, which is more than I thought I had |
| 20:18.48 | nilyaK | @ ackis so basically you need 1 arch pet 2 not released tcg pets and one holiday pet that is from a drop and you'll have every pet |
| 20:18.57 | nilyaK | that's totally awesome >_> god I am such a nerd |
| 20:20.00 | Ackis | nilyaK: also Murky which you can still get (e.g. it's $2000 on ebay right now) |
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| 20:21.03 | nilyaK | that seems rather expensive, I vote skip that one if possible |
| 20:21.16 | kagaro | well accountwide is pets and mounts are in play on beta it was kinda nice to see some of the long rep grind mounts on every char |
| 20:21.17 | nilyaK | stuff like that is why I never got into pets/mounts lol |
| 20:21.41 | Ackis | my OCD will never be happy until I get it :( |
| 20:21.51 | Ackis | but I'm not stupid enough to waste 2k right now on it |
| 20:21.52 | nilyaK | I know how that is |
| 20:22.08 | nilyaK | thankfully if I can't get stuff I am able to forget it but if it's like possible to get all the things |
| 20:22.11 | nilyaK | I do go totally crazy |
| 20:22.12 | nilyaK | this is me |
| 20:22.18 | nilyaK | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/black-dragonflight/Fran%C3%A7oise/simple |
| 20:22.27 | nilyaK | see: professions/reputation |
| 20:23.36 | Ackis | yeah I'm pretty much the same way |
| 20:24.32 | nilyaK | I made this char end of tbc (like tail end of the sunwell patch) one of the main reasons I picked rogue was I found on thistle tea recipes existed, that and brewing poisons. |
| 20:24.36 | nilyaK | also lockpicking |
| 20:25.48 | nilyaK | +70 fishing from gear and I still catch junk /damnyoublizzard |
| 20:26.36 | nilyaK | I should add you on RealID, then I could stalk you in-game (actually you seem fun to play with but idk) |
| 20:26.55 | End_ | thistle tea is the only cooking recipe my warlock is missing :( |
| 20:27.03 | nilyaK | :( |
| 20:27.37 | End_ | hm apparently the battle.net page doesn't even show it as not learned though |
| 20:28.12 | nilyaK | yea it's sorta counted as class specific by most people even though only the new version is. |
| 20:28.20 | nilyaK | but the armory is a little buggy |
| 20:28.23 | nilyaK | on some things |
| 20:28.56 | nilyaK | example: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/black-dragonflight/Fran%C3%A7oise/profession/enchanting those 3 recipes don't exist. |
| 20:29.50 | End_ | there were a few mounts or pets I don't think it showed too |
| 20:29.57 | End_ | they may have fixed those though, I don't know |
| 20:30.37 | End_ | (like I had the pet or mount but it couldn't list it at all) |
| 20:30.44 | nilyaK | yea |
| 20:31.46 | End_ | also now that I think about it, when it shows inscription for my shaman, it only shows missing shaman glyphs, which is annoying |
| 20:31.57 | End_ | I mean unlearned |
| 20:32.18 | End_ | luckily I can export to wowhead or whatever for that |
| 20:33.16 | nilyaK | I wish they'd really make the professions streamlined for wow, I feel like there are just chunks of gear centered around expansion end and mostly they're cluttered with useless stuff esp while leveling. Where as profs filled holes in gearing when they were current they're not kept that way. I really wish it were made more attractive for lowbie/newbie characters to take professions than it is now. As is they're a confusing drain on character re |
| 20:33.45 | nilyaK | like really, I can make a trinket that reflects fire spells for 2 levels, oh god I am so excited. |
| 20:34.26 | nilyaK | and engineering is the best profession, making 20 worthless linen flags isn't even that good. |
| 20:35.40 | NiLon | imo they could remove whole profession thingy |
| 20:35.51 | NiLon | make it simply crafting |
| 20:36.02 | nilyaK | more like d2 you mean? |
| 20:36.30 | NiLon | emm more like minecraft :D |
| 20:36.34 | nilyaK | or you mean just gear crafting like letting players make armor and weapons and not worry about if it's blacksmithing or jewelcrafting |
| 20:36.44 | nilyaK | minecraft is basically diablo II |
| 20:37.05 | NiLon | mm |
| 20:37.12 | NiLon | both games do have skeletons, check |
| 20:37.24 | nilyaK | kris + diamond + belt + staff = normal or exceptional 'savage' (61-80% enhanced damage) polearm with a chance at another affix. |
| 20:38.00 | NiLon | I don't mean some random stats.. |
| 20:38.16 | nilyaK | I know, the whole crafting thing though |
| 20:38.25 | NiLon | crafting like in minecraft |
| 20:38.44 | NiLon | you have stuff, you combine em to new stuff, and you get same stuff every time |
| 20:38.49 | nilyaK | yes |
| 20:38.55 | NiLon | basically extacly same as now, but without profession limit |
| 20:39.03 | nilyaK | yes, like d2 as I said |
| 20:39.10 | NiLon | no |
| 20:39.24 | NiLon | diablo does have totally different concept of items |
| 20:39.24 | nilyaK | d2 crafts are not random |
| 20:39.32 | nilyaK | they have fixed affixes |
| 20:39.35 | Unkle | Please no. I got enough of that shit in EQ. Um, well maybe it's Item A, Item B, Item B, Item C, Item D in Container X. Oh, no. It's not. Back to faming items to try another combo. |
| 20:39.38 | nilyaK | on their crafts or no random ones at all |
| 20:39.42 | End_ | you mean with runewords? |
| 20:39.56 | End_ | I don't remember d2 very well |
| 20:39.59 | nilyaK | http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/cube.shtml |
| 20:40.17 | nilyaK | http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/crafteditems.shtml |
| 20:41.04 | End_ | huh there was a lot more craftable stuff than I remember |
| 20:41.14 | AcidWeb | Somebody here will maybe play rated EoS soon and want help me debug something? :P |
| 20:43.09 | NiLon | best crafting systems are where you need to sell your soul for somekind creature to get to max level :p |
| 20:43.30 | nilyaK | and pay 300USD on the RMAH right? |
| 20:43.31 | NiLon | and then there are only few people that can do what you like |
| 20:43.46 | NiLon | nah :) |
| 20:44.25 | NiLon | those crafters usually are paying people so that they use their services |
| 20:44.32 | nilyaK | I think the idea behind that is not a few people that can do what you like but trying to recapture something resembling the unique products you find IRL, sure everybody can build a laptop but each brand and model is different |
| 20:44.54 | nilyaK | capturing it in a way that isn't grindy or oppresive to the player base is very difficult |
| 20:45.25 | NiLon | but grindy isn't bad |
| 20:45.56 | nilyaK | I disagree, doing the same thing over and over for the purpose of it taking a lot of time in itself is awful. |
| 20:46.03 | NiLon | time based proof of work is used IRL, it's great concept and been working for while humankind |
| 20:46.27 | nilyaK | related: bitcoin sucks |
| 20:46.28 | NiLon | that's why it works, not everyone is for grinding |
| 20:46.28 | Unkle | But it is shitty for gameplay |
| 20:46.48 | NiLon | bitcoin tho isn't based for time |
| 20:47.11 | nilyaK | it has a proof of work system based on processing power of the entire network |
| 20:47.16 | nilyaK | in any case |
| 20:47.29 | NiLon | Unkle so diablo 3? :) grinding so that you grind bit more? |
| 20:48.29 | nilyaK | games can contain grind, say D2, but unless they contain interesting aspects say the damage reduction system in d2 or experience manipulation with level areas, you're just going to do the same thing over and over and I'd rather have a computer do that personally, computers are good at doing boring things again and again for days. |
| 20:48.30 | NiLon | and great example of working crafting system was in runescape, when it was starting up |
| 20:48.39 | Unkle | NiLon: Items that take time SOLEY for the purpose of taking time(i.e. make 300 clay pot combines so you can make item X or Y that you actually want). |
| 20:48.56 | NiLon | there were only few people that had skill to craft high end items and it wasn't that grindy but resources were hard to get |
| 20:49.22 | NiLon | so there was no way that you could yourself alone get to max at sane time |
| 20:49.38 | NiLon | you needed others, building great community |
| 20:50.20 | NiLon | Unkle it's easy to tweak numbers, you can easily reduce that amount to 30 clay pots and still take same time |
| 20:50.31 | NiLon | so I don't see 300 as any meaningful number |
| 20:50.37 | Unkle | And it would still suck - for game play. |
| 20:50.48 | nilyaK | I don't see what this has to do to validate grind, clearly players in that case avoid the grind by partnering with other players and that is the incentive, the grind is used as something to make players NOT play that way |
| 20:50.52 | NiLon | only if you take naive look at it |
| 20:51.23 | Unkle | If I want to master making clay pots, then 10,000 hours is realistic - for gaining a real skill. It's still shitty game play |
| 20:51.39 | NiLon | and you enjoy it irl? |
| 20:52.01 | nilyaK | making clay pots? yes, but this isn't simulating making clay pots it's pushing buttons |
| 20:52.31 | Maldivia | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:52.34 | Unkle | NiLon if I want to make sublime clay pots of artitic merit, sure. But I shouldn't require that sort of effort in something in an ancillary system for a game. |
| 20:52.39 | NiLon | then there's nothing that prevent you to enjoy it in game |
| 20:53.02 | NiLon | if you design it to be boring, sure it will be boring |
| 20:53.08 | nilyaK | unless the game itself is world of claypotcraft in which case go ahead. |
| 20:53.08 | Unkle | I can see that we're arguing corss purposes. |
| 20:53.19 | Kraps | yay got my usb hub |
| 20:53.22 | NiLon | but you can hide grind elements to game very easily |
| 20:53.27 | NiLon | like they nowdays do |
| 20:53.49 | Maldivia | Kraps: how many controllers? Ie, does the entire thing degrade to 1.1 if you put a 1.1 unit in? |
| 20:53.57 | NiLon | I find there are more grinding current games than there were in older ones |
| 20:54.27 | nilyaK | I find I don't need to do Baal runs for 1500 hours on my barbarian to do high end PvP. |
| 20:54.55 | NiLon | like these "prestige" modes etc, pure grinding with slap to face and people do it for no benefit |
| 20:55.06 | Kraps | Maldivia, i dont know |
| 20:55.24 | nilyaK | you mean the MoP challenge modes or achievements or am I missing something? |
| 20:55.40 | NiLon | I don't see how that it better than doing 30 clay pots and gaining money out of it so that you can get better gear and slay some dragons and craft pots of dragon's eye sockets |
| 20:56.05 | nilyaK | neither do I, I'd rather have the developers focus on other things but it's not my game. |
| 20:56.33 | nilyaK | I mean I understand achievements help fuel the addiction but |
| 20:56.49 | nilyaK | challenge modes/hard modes seem silly to me, I'm just a casual/baddie though so idk |
| 20:57.05 | nilyaK | I need to take the bus somewhere, I'll be back in an hour or so |
| 20:57.09 | NiLon | I do fully understand challenge modes |
| 20:58.07 | NiLon | maybe not everyone is into them, but if you did beat "normal" version adding some juice to it is nice addition |
| 20:58.25 | nilyaK | yes certainly that but I don't understand why they need rewards to show off |
| 20:58.48 | NiLon | what rewards you get? |
| 20:58.52 | nilyaK | or why they can't just work on scaling raids based on players in group and having difficulty work on a sliding scale |
| 20:59.04 | nilyaK | cosmetic sets that are purely for show |
| 20:59.17 | NiLon | and that's bad because? |
| 21:00.02 | nilyaK | waste of resources they could presumable put toward other art in the game in my opinion. |
| 21:00.17 | nilyaK | ly* |
| 21:00.29 | nilyaK | anyway, gotta run, bb@3 local |
| 21:00.51 | Kraps | Maldivia, yeah the packaging says 1.1s will still function |
| 21:00.52 | NiLon | I'm not sure if it's linear use of time |
| 21:14.05 | Maldivia | Kraps: it's more like, if you put in a 2.0 and a 1.1 at the same time, if all the ports will degrade to 1.1 speed, or they work independantly |
| 21:15.01 | Maldivia | Kraps: ofcourse, if you don't have any 1.1 units, it doesn't really matter :P |
| 21:15.11 | Kraps | heh |
| 21:15.16 | Kraps | i dont think i do |
| 21:16.14 | Kraps | usuall just my 3rd gen itouch and usb sticks |
| 21:16.33 | Kraps | "Supports Multiple Transaction Translators for optimum performance when a combination of USB 2.0 and 1.1 devices are attached." |
| 21:16.37 | Kraps | :) |
| 21:16.54 | Maldivia | well, that solves that problem it seems :p |
| 21:18.57 | Kraps | Is there a way to turn off the blue LED bar on the hub? |
| 21:18.59 | Kraps | No, the LED indicates that the device is powered. |
| 21:19.15 | Kraps | why would you want to its cool http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51e%2BsRzlIYL.jpg |
| 21:19.17 | Maldivia | gaffa tape |
| 21:19.35 | Maldivia | solves everything |
| 21:21.24 | Dagmar | Nature gives us a better solution to USB 1.1 devices. |
| 21:21.28 | Dagmar | It's called "fire". |
| 21:22.02 | Maldivia | Nature has solutions for a lot of things |
| 21:38.51 | Unkle | Don't you mean "gaffer" tape? |
| 21:39.27 | Maldivia | ~wiki gaffa tape |
| 21:39.43 | Maldivia | the same |
| 21:40.01 | Unkle | Never hear gaffa before. :) |
| 21:40.02 | foxlit | "ENB is [...] not a software," "3) Software provided "AS IS"" << Well, then. |
| 21:40.06 | Unkle | And I was a gaffer. |
| 21:43.24 | Maldivia | it's called gaffa in Denmark, so :) |
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| 21:44.17 | Unkle | Well, that would explain it. I've only ever been through your airport on a layover. I didn't even get to get off the plane. |
| 21:44.36 | Maldivia | we have more than one airport :P |
| 21:45.06 | Unkle | I'm certain. But I was … 6? at the time. So I can't even say which one. |
| 21:45.23 | Maldivia | most likely Kastrup/Copenhagen |
| 21:46.55 | Elkano | Maldivia, gaffa doesn't solve everything... |
| 21:47.04 | Elkano | ...but for the rest, there's WD40... |
| 21:47.36 | Kraps | everything changed when the fire nation attacked |
| 21:49.48 | Maldivia | Elkano: yeah ok, depends if you want something to stay or go :P |
| 21:50.49 | Unkle | Or burn in fiery burnination |
| 22:03.48 | Arrowmaster | http://www.ilovelibraries.org/save-troy-library-adventures-reverse-psychology |
| 22:04.04 | Arrowmaster | lol fucking with the tea party |
| 22:05.04 | sylvanaar | lol yeah thats funny |
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| 22:43.41 | Unkle | Well, two lessons learned. 1) buying a 12-pack of soda and putting it in the office fridge as a cost-saving measure isn't a cost savings, 2) my fucking co-workers are thieving shits. |
| 22:45.14 | Amarande | Lower purchase price does not translate into lower TCO? :) |
| 22:46.05 | jnwhiteh | Unkle: leave them at your desk and toss one in ahead of wanting it? |
| 22:46.08 | jnwhiteh | but yeah, people suck |
| 22:46.13 | jnwhiteh | Adys: finally hit 60 on the wizard |
| 22:46.18 | jnwhiteh | now I need to get a decent weapon and gear up a bit |
| 22:47.15 | Amarande | oh, D# |
| 22:47.16 | Amarande | D3 |
| 22:47.23 | Amarande | I was like ... 60? And don't you mean mage? :) |
| 22:47.27 | Unkle | I bought a 12-pack, I've had 4. I went to the back to get one, and there were two left. It also coincides with a meeting in the conference room next door that was atteneded by all the senior personnel… who make a lot more than I do. They can buy their own damned soda. |
| 22:47.59 | foxlit | Unkle: their soda is free? |
| 22:48.06 | Unkle | Amarande: Yeah, $3 for a 12 pack sounds vs $1.25/each sounds like a savings.. until you don't get htem. |
| 22:48.26 | Unkle | foxlit: No, the university stopped stocking their fridge last year. |
| 22:48.33 | Amarande | heh, I suppose you can go tell them angrily that they can buy their own damned soda |
| 22:48.40 | sylvanaar | well if you have 3 of 12 you break even at lest |
| 22:48.52 | Amarande | but then they'll probably tell you that yes, they can buy their own damned soda, while you probably now can't unless your state lets you use food stamps to buy soda :P heh |
| 22:48.57 | Unkle | I went and wrote my name on the last two cans. |
| 22:49.08 | jnwhiteh | Amarande: =) |
| 22:49.17 | foxlit | heh, 3$ for 6 is still better than 1.25$ for one |
| 22:49.36 | Amarande | heh, this is why I now drink water out of 3-litre bottles |
| 22:49.40 | Unkle | Amarande: I doubt that I'd get fired over it. |
| 22:49.54 | Amarande | 3-litre bottle: $1.39 normally, $1.00 on sale, no bottle deposit to worry about, just throw it in the recycle when done. |
| 22:50.14 | Unkle | Anyway, sorry to vent. |
| 22:50.21 | Amarande | 1.5-litre bottle: $1.49, and has to be carted back to the store and then you get to wait in line behind all the homeless people trying to return cartfuls of bottles to get something to eat to get the deposit back. |
| 22:51.28 | Amarande | (Connecticut's bottle deposit rules are a little odd now. Five cents a bottle on water, but 3 litre or larger bottles are exempt.) |
| 22:52.04 | Amarande | Well, actually the 5-gallon bottles have a $6 deposit, but that's an agreement with Nestle, not the state. |
| 22:54.20 | Arrowmaster | kickstarter is taking all my money |
| 22:54.28 | Gnarfoz | why the hell has xchat cleared my ignore list |
| 22:54.29 | Gnarfoz | argh |
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| 22:55.40 | Arrowmaster | $794 between 5 kickstarter projects and i still havent received anything from any of them |
| 22:56.07 | Unkle | bottle deposits used to work when the cost of re-using bottles was lower than the the cost of just injection-molding more bottles. Might be nice to move back to glass bottles. But I'd really have to study it. |
| 22:56.34 | foxlit | Unkle: but these aren't the only costs involved. |
| 22:56.53 | Unkle | Which is why I'd have to study the whole picture. I don't know all the factors. |
| 22:57.55 | TC-Work | yes Arrowmaster things take time |
| 22:58.05 | Arrowmaster | TC-Work: one of them i backed in 2010 |
| 22:58.42 | Amarande | Unkle: now they're mostly about the state hoping to make a buck from people who don't return the bottles |
| 22:59.01 | Unkle | Yeah, same with plastic bag bans. |
| 22:59.05 | Amarande | the more important thing is that now curbside recycling alongside your weekly trash pickup is pretty ubiquitous now |
| 22:59.20 | Unkle | I wish. It's still not here. |
| 22:59.27 | Amarande | so now the bottle return thing is an inconvenience that if anything reduces the amount of recycling rather than increasing it |
| 22:59.54 | Amarande | because, see, the other thing is that places only have to give bottle refunds on stuff that they sell (not necessarily actually sold, but something they actually have in their store) |
| 22:59.59 | Gnarfoz | gah |
| 23:00.03 | Gnarfoz | back to the ignore list you go! |
| 23:00.44 | Amarande | so people shop at various stores, then go back to their primary store to try to do their bottle returns, bottles from OtherMart won't go through the machine so they just toss them in the trash rather than go to the trouble to taking them back home to wait for their next trip to OtherMart |
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| 23:08.34 | Stanzilla | do you like bottles of pee? |
| 23:09.31 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 23:12.13 | TC-Work | who doesnt? |
| 23:12.43 | Gnarfoz | peeophobes? |
| 23:19.30 | Unkle | You're uriphobic? |
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