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| 00:23.40 | pompy | yay getting pounded by another storm again |
| 00:23.46 | pompy | it will never end |
| 00:28.13 | mckenziemc | grabs a maul. |
| 00:32.26 | Thunder_Child | hey, i know a guy named strom as well! |
| 00:32.33 | Thunder_Child | s/strom/storm/ |
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| 00:33.20 | pompy | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 00:33.20 | purl | whips out a hot clue gun and makes sure that Thunder_Child is stuck to the floor |
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| 00:37.42 | Arrowmaster | so i ordered a $1.37 usb OTG cable from amazon, free ship no tax but its going to take a fucking month to ship it from hong kong |
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| 00:38.57 | pompy | did u check ebay? |
| 00:39.24 | Arrowmaster | i dont need the cable yet |
| 00:40.26 | pompy | then you should be chill abouit it taking a month!! |
| 00:40.53 | pompy | sigh is there any place in the USA thats stable weather wise right now!? |
| 00:41.08 | durcyn | guantanamo bay |
| 00:41.34 | pompy | i forgot to mention excluding guantanamo bay! |
| 00:41.50 | Iriel | pompy: weather's stable here in the SF bay area |
| 00:44.04 | mckenziemc | anywhere you aren't, pompy |
| 00:48.35 | pompy | Iriel: 3,000 miles away! |
| 00:53.24 | Thunder_Child | dont be on the east coast then pompy |
| 00:54.44 | Thunder_Child | or hawaii |
| 00:55.04 | pompy | heh |
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| 01:27.21 | Stanzilla | anyone knows which hunter thing gives 5% crit in mop? |
| 01:27.30 | Stanzilla | speaking raid buffs |
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| 01:27.49 | arkanes | some pet thing |
| 01:27.56 | arkanes | roar of courage? |
| 01:28.34 | arkanes | no, that's the mastery one |
| 01:29.52 | Stanzilla | pet buffs are gone |
| 01:29.58 | arkanes | no they aren't |
| 01:30.16 | arkanes | at least not roar of courage |
| 01:31.12 | arkanes | sources say that hyenas and something else (wind serpents?) are giving 10% haste |
| 01:32.33 | Stanzilla | I can't find the pet spellbook T_T |
| 01:33.51 | Stanzilla | wowhead says that roar of courage is a lvl 90 talent |
| 01:34.18 | arkanes | I think wowhead is nutty |
| 01:34.28 | Stanzilla | Terrifying Roar |
| 01:34.30 | Stanzilla | is 5% crit |
| 01:34.42 | Stanzilla | it's a "special ability" |
| 01:34.43 | Stanzilla | no idea |
| 01:35.00 | arkanes | the mastery one is definitely not level 90 becayse my level 86 hunter buddy had it the other day |
| 01:35.27 | arkanes | it works basicaly like in live where the pet auto casts it but it onlyu lasts like 30 seconds, I'm not sure if it shows up in the raid buff thingy |
| 01:36.25 | Stanzilla | I just want a pet spellbook :< |
| 01:36.41 | Stanzilla | oh there is one now |
| 01:36.44 | Stanzilla | had to change pets T_T |
| 01:39.24 | arkanes | boo they fixed infinifall for panda rogues :( |
| 01:40.34 | arkanes | well maybe not |
| 01:40.40 | arkanes | with the glyph can still fall really damn far |
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| 01:43.30 | arkanes | yeah I guess not just fell about 300 yards and only lost 50% health |
| 02:18.33 | Dagmar | Bullshit... It's not even "Africa Hot" here lately... Africa isn't this goddamn hot. |
| 02:18.58 | Dagmar | We're a good ten degrees hicher |
| 02:19.01 | Dagmar | er higher |
| 02:26.33 | Thunder_Child | Death valley hot? |
| 02:26.44 | Dagmar | Well, not quite that hot |
| 02:27.11 | Dagmar | I suppose if we had a slightly lower elevation we could get there. The color schemes at the moment are about the same. |
| 02:27.26 | Dagmar | Everything is *dead* outside |
| 02:27.45 | Dagmar | Trees are getting by, but all the grass is dead. |
| 02:28.03 | Amarande | Venusian surface hot? |
| 02:28.31 | Dagmar | They have higher humitidy |
| 02:31.23 | Adys | Dagmar: I have a guy with a django app served by apache on port 80. It runs fine, but after a few hours it becomes unavailable. *Local* access (curl http://localhost) works, though, the app functions just fine. Apache restart doesn't solve the issue. A reboot solves the issue. |
| 02:31.27 | Adys | any idea what could be causing it? |
| 02:31.45 | Adys | iptables-save didn't output anything, thats the only thing i checked before rebooting |
| 02:31.48 | kd3 | the firewall going "no. not yours"? |
| 02:31.49 | kd3 | heh |
| 02:32.53 | end_ | define "unavailable"? |
| 02:33.05 | end_ | I mean, what does it do, time out...or? |
| 02:33.12 | Adys | time out, yes |
| 02:33.26 | Adys | it answers to ping fine |
| 02:33.34 | end_ | what mpm are you using? |
| 02:33.37 | Dagmar | Adys: Maybe check netstat to see if it's never closing ports properly |
| 02:33.48 | Dagmar | You're only generally allowed so many filehandles |
| 02:33.58 | Adys | end_: i dont know, how do I check? (I never use apache usually) |
| 02:34.06 | Dagmar | netstat -tunap | grep :80 |
| 02:34.13 | end_ | it can be set in a few places |
| 02:34.17 | end_ | umm |
| 02:34.34 | Dagmar | That's the only thing I can figure |
| 02:34.45 | end_ | finding a box that I have that runs apache is harder than I expected |
| 02:34.50 | Adys | Dagmar: that gives me a lot of lines, several from identical ips |
| 02:34.52 | Dagmar | It iptables-save writes nothing, there's probably no iptables rules set, but iptables -L will tell you much the same thing |
| 02:34.53 | Adys | good/bad? |
| 02:35.04 | end_ | I'd check the main configuration file |
| 02:35.05 | Dagmar | Adys: Depends on what the argument tot he right is. |
| 02:35.09 | end_ | also are you using mod_wsgi? |
| 02:35.13 | Adys | end_: yes |
| 02:35.25 | end_ | daemon mode? |
| 02:35.37 | Adys | you mean apache? |
| 02:35.38 | Adys | yes |
| 02:35.48 | Adys | Dagmar: several ESTABLISHED, SYN_RECV, TIME_WAIT, FIN_WAIT2 |
| 02:35.50 | end_ | I mean mod_wsgi, is it embedded mode or daemon mode |
| 02:35.54 | Adys | oh |
| 02:35.56 | Adys | uh, no idea sorry |
| 02:36.03 | Dagmar | If there's a shitload of ESTABLISHED you may have a problem |
| 02:36.07 | end_ | I'm sort of grasping at straws anyway :P |
| 02:36.09 | Adys | there is |
| 02:36.21 | end_ | if the mpm is prefork |
| 02:36.27 | end_ | check to see how many processes there are |
| 02:36.31 | Adys | sec |
| 02:37.02 | Dagmar | If you think *you're* grasping at straws, keep in mind that we know jack and shit about the configuration there |
| 02:37.07 | End_ | yeah |
| 02:37.23 | Adys | # netstat -tunap | grep :80 | grep ESTABLISHED | wc -l |
| 02:37.23 | Adys | 55 |
| 02:37.29 | Dagmar | TIME_WAIT is connections that were already closed properly, by the way |
| 02:37.54 | Dagmar | 55 active connections isn't really a lot |
| 02:38.11 | End_ | how many apache processes are running? |
| 02:38.24 | End_ | we'll assume for now you're running prefork because that's usually what people run because php |
| 02:38.32 | Adys | End_: 80 |
| 02:38.37 | End_ | ...80 processes? |
| 02:38.38 | Adys | i think this box runs multiple domains |
| 02:38.39 | End_ | that's |
| 02:38.40 | End_ | a lot |
| 02:38.43 | Adys | yeah |
| 02:38.47 | Adys | it runs several domains |
| 02:38.49 | Dagmar | They must be expecting a pounding load |
| 02:39.00 | End_ | I'm guessing you have buttloads of ram |
| 02:39.05 | Dagmar | did you already check the error_log? |
| 02:39.12 | Adys | how do I check? I dont know anything about the box either |
| 02:39.16 | End_ | usually I'd jump to "you're swapping" but if localhost works fine... |
| 02:39.30 | Adys | Dagmar: i did, there *is* some error in threading.pyc but it looks unrelated |
| 02:39.38 | Dagmar | Could be anywhere, but the configuration file would say. Try /var/www/domainname.foo/logs |
| 02:39.44 | End_ | free -m will tell you ram |
| 02:39.53 | Adys | Mem: 10943 2444 8498 0 160 649 |
| 02:40.02 | Dagmar | I blame pytyhon |
| 02:40.05 | Dagmar | er python. |
| 02:40.07 | End_ | ok you're fine on ram |
| 02:40.22 | End_ | hm |
| 02:40.25 | End_ | no that's not it |
| 02:40.35 | Dagmar | If your'e getting an error message about threading.pyc, that would be the thing I'd look into |
| 02:40.42 | End_ | what's the error? |
| 02:40.47 | Adys | it doesn't say =/ |
| 02:40.49 | Dagmar | ...but completely stopping Apache and restarting it should make the issue go away |
| 02:41.01 | Adys | Dagmar: yeah which is why i said it looks unrelated |
| 02:41.16 | Adys | and |
| 02:41.19 | Adys | the application runs fine |
| 02:41.27 | Adys | i can access it from the local server |
| 02:41.53 | Dagmar | You did slap out an `iptables -L -n`, just to make sure there's no iptables rules in the way, right? |
| 02:42.08 | End_ | he did iptables-save |
| 02:42.13 | End_ | which will give you everything |
| 02:42.17 | Adys | http://paste2.org/p/2064045 |
| 02:42.22 | Adys | nothing in there |
| 02:42.49 | Adys | the guy claims he might be getting ddos'd |
| 02:42.51 | Dagmar | Ther'es a bunch of chains that aren't the usual |
| 02:42.55 | Dagmar | That could be |
| 02:43.13 | Dagmar | Might be a synflood on. Maybe check syslog for talk about cookies. ;) |
| 02:44.26 | Adys | hmm |
| 02:44.28 | Adys | lemme see |
| 02:45.06 | Dagmar | I'm not really suggesting this but... tcpdump -v -n -p tcp and 'tcp[13] & 2 == 2' |
| 02:45.17 | Adys | what does that do? |
| 02:45.23 | Dagmar | It's kind of a dark art figuring out if there's a synflood on from watching a scroll of tcpdump output |
| 02:45.36 | Dagmar | basically, anything with the SYN bit set gets dumped out |
| 02:45.40 | End_ | neat |
| 02:46.43 | Adys | Dagmar: I see a lot of spam there |
| 02:47.01 | Dagmar | Well, the real issue is what kind of acutal load is supposed to be doing on |
| 02:47.03 | Dagmar | er going on |
| 02:47.29 | Dagmar | if you're getting like 10,000 lines a second tho, that would be a DDoS |
| 02:47.45 | Dagmar | 200 a second could just be "normal load" |
| 02:48.25 | Adys | 1701 packets received by filter |
| 02:48.26 | Adys | 0 packets dropped by kernel |
| 02:48.26 | Adys | tcpdump -v -n -p tcp and 'tcp[13] & 2 == 2' 0.00s user 0.09s system 0% cpu 11.680 total |
| 02:48.31 | Dagmar | ...but as to the way connections are failing... If a telnet to the port from outside _doesn't connect at all_ it's a different sort of problem than if it does connect and just ignores you saying "HEAD / HTTP/1.1"(enterenter) |
| 02:49.00 | Adys | i didnt get the occasion to test |
| 02:49.13 | Adys | itll probably go down again some time tonight |
| 02:49.20 | Adys | wanted to know what to try when it does |
| 02:49.26 | Dagmar | Well... all of this |
| 02:49.32 | Dagmar | Notably the netstat thing |
| 02:49.56 | Dagmar | If you see one host dominating most of the connections to port 80 and not letting them go, I'd just blacklist that host and call it a night. ;) |
| 02:50.24 | Dagmar | You're not going to have much luck diagnosing a problem that isn't actually occuring right now |
| 02:50.31 | Adys | aye |
| 02:50.58 | Adys | is there anything i could try to actually fix the issue without restarting btw? |
| 02:51.00 | Dagmar | There's some stuff that can be done with iptables and the recent matcher, but it's not subject matter for 10pm on a Sunday night on IRC. |
| 02:51.16 | Adys | 4am dude |
| 02:51.21 | Dagmar | Adys: You should honestly be able to issue an `apachectl graceful` and incur zero service interruption |
| 02:51.39 | End_ | I thought he said restarting apache didn't help |
| 02:52.02 | Dagmar | I'm kind of ignoring that as an outlier |
| 02:52.03 | End_ | so....hmmmm |
| 02:52.44 | Dagmar | The box would have to be seriously on fire for all the apache processes being allowed to exit and a new parent process taking over to not sort it out |
| 02:53.20 | End_ | yeah it sounds strange |
| 02:53.42 | Dagmar | My best guess is that something in the threading code may be creating a shitload of zombies |
| 02:53.43 | Adys | i thought it might be some kind of host-level firewall |
| 02:53.48 | End_ | I'm assuming the apache processes did actually all die any so forth, right? |
| 02:54.02 | Adys | End_: i didnt check tbh, but it looked clean |
| 02:54.14 | Adys | as i said it makes no sense for it to be an apache issue if it works locally |
| 02:54.16 | Dagmar | Nowadays, init handles zombies pretty quickly |
| 02:54.57 | Dagmar | Ther'es also the scoreboard to consider |
| 02:55.25 | Dagmar | Oh yeah actually... Make certain that the server-status and server-info modules are active and available only from localhost |
| 02:55.41 | Dagmar | If/when the thing fucks up, a glance at both of those should make some things obvious |
| 02:56.00 | Dagmar | Actually just server-status I think |
| 02:57.09 | Dagmar | It should tell you how many sockets are in use, number fo connections per second coming through, etc etc |
| 02:57.30 | Adys | Dagmar: what are those? |
| 02:57.41 | Dagmar | http://www.apache.org/server-status |
| 02:57.46 | Dagmar | A lot like that in fact. |
| 02:58.17 | Dagmar | I honestly didn't expect they'd have theirs open to the public, but then I don't see why not either |
| 02:58.38 | Adys | its available from localhost and unavailable from outbound |
| 02:59.00 | Dagmar | If the thing freaks out again you'll want to hit that page and save a copy of it |
| 02:59.08 | Dagmar | wget may be handy for that. ;) |
| 02:59.19 | Adys | good idea, thanks |
| 02:59.43 | Dagmar | One of my to-dos this week is to get awstats working properly on our servers so we can go back to having nice graphs to beat some departments over the head with |
| 02:59.48 | Adys | the hell is that block of dots |
| 03:00.00 | End_ | empty slots |
| 03:00.07 | End_ | there |
| 03:00.08 | Dagmar | "Open slot with no current process" |
| 03:00.11 | End_ | there's a legend |
| 03:00.12 | End_ | below it |
| 03:00.15 | Dagmar | yep |
| 03:00.27 | Dagmar | If you have no dots, you need MOAR DOTS |
| 03:00.35 | Adys | To obtain a full report with current status information you need to use the ExtendedStatus On directive. |
| 03:00.35 | Adys | hm |
| 03:00.47 | End_ | probably worthwhile |
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| 03:01.56 | Dagmar | In a cast like this, more information is probably better than not enough |
| 03:02.05 | Dagmar | s/cast/case/ |
| 03:04.02 | Adys | Syntax error on line 15 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/status.conf: |
| 03:04.02 | Adys | ExtendedStatus not allowed here |
| 03:04.04 | Adys | eeeeehh |
| 03:04.17 | Adys | god i hate apache's conf syntax |
| 03:05.35 | Dagmar | Stick it in the global |
| 03:05.41 | Adys | aye got it working |
| 03:05.56 | Dagmar | It's generally just commented out of most people's templates |
| 03:06.49 | Dagmar | `apachectl -t` can save you some face if you just accidentally had the thing not start back up |
| 03:07.12 | Adys | it didnt go down |
| 03:07.15 | Dagmar | We kinda gave up on some aspects of Change Management at the office, so I've gotten very handy with NOT causing service interruptions |
| 03:07.18 | Adys | i think graceful checks the config first |
| 03:07.35 | Dagmar | I just know I'm damn tired of having to make trivial changes at 11pm every night of the week |
| 03:09.11 | Dagmar | At the present time, someone wanting a new vanity domain with a redirect is supposed to wind up being a pre-approved change, which shoudlnt even be a change... It should be an "operational" task because we're doing five or more of the dumb things a week now |
| 03:50.52 | Parnic | is cairenn or someone in charge of the WoWUI beta guide available? IceHUD has been updated: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info21216-IceHUD-MoP.html |
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| 04:35.56 | Ackis | I got this achievement today; http://www.wowhead.com/achievement=3316 :D :D :D :D |
| 04:36.40 | mckenziemc | ~smackis |
| 04:36.41 | purl | ACTION smacks Ackis. |
| 04:36.57 | Ackis | :( |
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| 04:55.53 | Cairenn|afk | Parnic: thanks |
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| 05:22.07 | karl_w_w | The real danger for the Australia would be to do as our critics suggest, which is to delay universal broadband adoption until the next big thing in technology comes along. Thatd be like sticking with a horse and buggy while the rest of the world is driving motor cars on the off-chance that the car yard might one day stock Jetsons space cars, |
| 05:22.09 | karl_w_w | LOL |
| 05:27.53 | pompy | http://gamerant.com/blizzard-diablo-3-restrictions-lifted-sieg-157729/ |
| 05:30.10 | Corrodias | how exactly are they "verifying" purchases? |
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| 05:59.30 | Arrowmaster | Corrodias: waiting for them to not get reversed because the card was stolen? |
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| 06:05.25 | Fisker | bye bluspacecow |
| 06:05.32 | bluspacecow | where you going? |
| 06:05.45 | Fisker | nowhere bluspacecow |
| 06:05.54 | Fisker | Corrodias when shopping on the internets |
| 06:06.05 | bluspacecow | oh ok |
| 06:06.10 | Fisker | the money will take a few days to actually exchange hands |
| 06:06.26 | Fisker | When Blizzard sees the money on their account they upgrade it |
| 06:06.28 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 06:06.36 | bluspacecow | so my pizza will come in a few days ? |
| 06:06.38 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 06:07.05 | Fisker | Basically that prevents people from simply abusing the authorization window to get unlimited free copies of the game for those couple of days |
| 06:07.20 | Fisker | After that they will have to perform a chargeback which is much more messy |
| 06:07.27 | Fisker | yeah bluspacecow |
| 06:07.49 | Fisker | until the payment has cleared you will get a pizza starter edition |
| 06:08.07 | bluspacecow | it has just cheese and no topppings |
| 06:08.13 | bluspacecow | and a paper base |
| 06:08.31 | Arrowmaster | http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/vwcr1/what_is_the_one_story_that_you_can_never_tell/ |
| 06:08.50 | Arrowmaster | http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/vwcr1/what_is_the_one_story_that_you_can_never_tell/c58a2t0 |
| 06:08.51 | Sintacks | the one about that time that i can't tell you about |
| 06:09.44 | Arrowmaster | also http://i.imgur.com/f132r.jpg |
| 06:09.58 | Sintacks | yeah. saw that. that was werid shit |
| 06:10.00 | Sintacks | weird* |
| 06:10.01 | Sintacks | ajiopsdg |
| 06:10.28 | Thunder_Child | what? who doesnt like a good 5th element cosplay |
| 06:10.45 | Arrowmaster | good? its like fucking perfect |
| 06:10.51 | Sintacks | it was just too perfect |
| 06:11.22 | kd3 | wtf, a deer? |
| 06:11.28 | Thunder_Child | except for the face |
| 06:11.32 | Thunder_Child | that does not look the same |
| 06:11.42 | Sintacks | X-games has made me want to play THPS2 |
| 06:12.08 | Thunder_Child | also if he went arouns saying 'green' i hope someone backhanded him |
| 06:12.14 | Thunder_Child | around* |
| 06:15.06 | Fisker | also Arrowmaster |
| 06:15.25 | Fisker | why the fuck do they keep reporting it as if the level and content restriction was intended? |
| 06:15.31 | Fisker | They always said that it was a bug |
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| 06:27.30 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn|afk: http://i.imgur.com/WTPqq.gif |
| 06:29.54 | Cairenn|afk | awwww |
| 06:29.59 | Cairenn|afk | too cute |
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| 06:49.09 | Ackis | http://imgur.com/BDY03.jpg |
| 06:51.09 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 06:53.24 | Sintacks | D: |
| 06:59.35 | pompy | "Good news for Xbox fans: Microsoft's gadgets will not be banned from the United States, at least for now. A U.S. trade panel has decided to put off a final ruling on a complaint Google's Motorola Mobility unit filed against Microsoft, accusing the software maker of infringing its patents to make the popular Xbox, Reuters reported." |
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| 07:04.01 | Sintacks | wat |
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| 07:43.01 | Dagmar | We need more judges willing to throw lasuits out "with prejudice" |
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| 07:47.45 | Fisker | especially those from Apple or Microsoft |
| 07:48.07 | Alram | fuck Microsoft |
| 07:48.19 | Alram | Apple should be banned from all courts |
| 07:48.30 | Alram | intergalactically |
| 07:49.03 | wereHamster | did google buy motorola? |
| 07:49.11 | wereHamster | or why is it Google's Motorola Mobility unit? |
| 07:50.01 | mitch0 | wereHamster: it did |
| 07:50.06 | Mr_Rabies | they bought motorola mobility |
| 07:50.39 | mitch0 | well, yeah, they didn't buy all of moto |
| 07:51.43 | Fisker | no Alram |
| 07:51.57 | Fisker | Apple may be our only defense against an alien invasion |
| 07:52.26 | Fisker | maybe they can get their weapons banned for using apple's design and/or their software patents |
| 07:52.42 | Mr_Rabies | however |
| 07:52.49 | Mr_Rabies | what if the aliens are allergic to options |
| 07:53.12 | Mr_Rabies | i don't know if apple's really a good one to keep around if that's the case |
| 07:58.07 | karl_w_w | it's allergict, get it right |
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| 08:03.57 | karl_w_w | http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/divorces.jpg |
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| 08:33.16 | randomDude | hey Fisker |
| 08:34.14 | randomDude | two other guys in my office that "had" galaxy nexus s... cracked the lcd "somehow" |
| 08:35.32 | Ketho | http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/621327WoWScrnShot070112025148.jpg |
| 08:35.39 | Ketho | wtf |
| 08:35.59 | Sintacks | ew. shitty image host |
| 08:38.19 | Fisker | somehow randomDude ? |
| 08:38.40 | randomDude | i suspect that had it in their back pocket when they sat down |
| 08:39.16 | randomDude | the hilarious thing is they seem to think they would fare better with an iphone |
| 08:39.24 | zenzio | what part of the screen was cracked? |
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| 08:39.51 | randomDude | but seeing as i'm fairly careless with my g nexus and have yet to see a cracked lcd... i doubt they would actually be better off with a rubber duck |
| 08:40.34 | randomDude | zenzio: the actualy amoled display panel, not the plastic front panel |
| 08:40.48 | Fisker | the iphone would fare better because everyone has a bumper case from the "hold differently" ordeal |
| 08:40.49 | Fisker | :D |
| 08:41.15 | zenzio | I'm interested in upgrading from my Desire Z, but haven't so far found another with a decent keyboard (I resent typing on the screen) |
| 08:43.05 | randomDude | i also upgraded my gnexus to jellybean... <3 |
| 08:43.09 | randomDude | ujelly? |
| 08:45.09 | randomDude | https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-XpRR7Y_WQ-U/T_D9GWkM0QI/AAAAAAAACH0/mAjbic8aLLo/s497/AwvkEs7CIAE8Klm.jpeg |
| 08:47.32 | Kalroth | my s3 came with the proper version! |
| 08:47.43 | Sintacks | iPhone is already a big phone... I don't want a tablet in my pocket |
| 08:48.01 | randomDude | gnexus is actually not that bog |
| 08:48.05 | randomDude | big? |
| 08:48.20 | randomDude | the iphone is just for people with small hands |
| 08:48.30 | randomDude | also : https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=N1zxDa3t0fg#! |
| 08:49.03 | randomDude | note the enthusiastic crowd |
| 08:56.28 | Fisker | it sucks that flash is more or less broken in JB :( |
| 09:00.39 | zenzio | I think you misspelled rocks |
| 09:02.18 | Fisker | nope zenzio |
| 09:02.26 | Fisker | if we were perhaps 5 years in the future |
| 09:02.29 | Fisker | then maybe |
| 09:02.38 | zenzio | so you were one of the ten people who used Flash on the Android? |
| 09:03.02 | Fisker | you mean 100-500 million people |
| 09:03.04 | Fisker | mad? |
| 09:03.24 | zenzio | I would say they are mad, yes |
| 09:03.31 | Fisker | Though i guess atleast we'll get a quicker transition to HTML5 now that flash doesn't work properly |
| 09:08.27 | karl_w_w | I'll transition you Fisker |
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| 10:45.51 | Coldkil | ohai |
| 10:46.22 | zenzio | heya |
| 10:46.25 | Computerpunk | Guys, what are the major UI changes in MoP? |
| 10:46.30 | Computerpunk | Aka, many stuff removed? |
| 10:46.40 | Coldkil | well, monk class ;) |
| 10:46.49 | Coldkil | then locks have had a good redesign |
| 10:46.55 | Computerpunk | UI STUFF MAN |
| 10:46.55 | Computerpunk | ._. |
| 10:47.40 | Coldkil | well, shards/embers/demonic fury should be in an UI right? ;) |
| 10:48.57 | Computerpunk | I meant, old lua functions that got removed. |
| 10:51.04 | AcidWeb | Computerpunk: Yes there are many changes. |
| 10:51.17 | Computerpunk | Thanks. |
| 10:51.20 | Computerpunk | then, off to testing I am. |
| 10:51.20 | Computerpunk | :p |
| 10:53.00 | Coldkil | here's also a link http://www.wowpedia.org/Patch_5.0.1/API_changes |
| 10:55.45 | Computerpunk | Thanks Coldkil. |
| 10:55.50 | Computerpunk | Now to get bak to doing. |
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| 12:47.36 | p3lim | The blizzard code referes to a 4th Soul Shard, how would one get that? |
| 12:47.40 | p3lim | A buff or spec? |
| 12:50.07 | AcidWeb | p3lim: afaik glyph |
| 12:50.12 | p3lim | Thanks acid |
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| 13:09.17 | karl_w_w | why isnt there any gold on the rmah? |
| 13:11.19 | zenzio | don't know |
| 13:11.34 | Lopeppeppy | Buying gold, with gold. Hah! |
| 13:12.48 | zenzio | but I did read something interesting today; in Norway at least you may have to pay tax on income from the RMAH. It'll be difficult to draw the line according to the financial dude, but if you exceed ~1000 euros then it will for certain; below that it will depend on whether it's still judged to be a hobby or not |
| 13:13.24 | Lopeppeppy | I like that, zenzio. In an ironic and penny-pinching way. |
| 13:13.28 | zenzio | :) |
| 13:13.47 | zenzio | it's no different than any other income, just easily forgotten in these circumstances |
| 13:14.06 | Lopeppeppy | Like selling off a few trading cards here and there, it does add up. |
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| 13:33.43 | foxlit | I wonder why pandarian faction capitals are contested on PvE realms. |
| 13:34.51 | Lopeppeppy | Because Pandas are fractious beasts. |
| 13:44.48 | zenzio | foxlit: Blizzard was tired of there no longer being world PvP, so they thought "hey, we might as well do something useful with the capitals" |
| 13:45.01 | foxlit | PvE servers, though! |
| 13:45.13 | zenzio | though, are these capitals useful at all, or are they like Exodar and Silvermoon; something you never visit after level 10? |
| 13:45.26 | foxlit | they're in pandaria |
| 13:45.37 | foxlit | roughly in the middle of it. Have a bank, have an auction house. |
| 13:45.38 | zenzio | so they're the Shattrath/Dalaran-equivalents? |
| 13:45.44 | nevcairiel | I liked hanging around in Exodar, it was a quiet place and no-one bothered you |
| 13:45.50 | foxlit | less portals, though. I think. |
| 13:46.49 | zenzio | granted I don't have actual stats, from what I noticed and heard, Silvermoon and Exodar were very underused... which would have to be a bit discouraging for the designers/artists |
| 13:47.40 | nevcairiel | same goes for Darnassus, no-one goes there |
| 13:51.00 | zenzio | I've seen it get a tiny bit more traffic now it has an AH, but yeah, it's still rather vacant |
| 13:51.01 | grdn | if they want players spread over all capitals, they should place cata/mop portals there, too |
| 13:51.08 | zenzio | yeah |
| 13:51.38 | zenzio | it pains me to visit Ironforge these days; it used to be so full of life... now it's a ghost town. I know this is the way things go, but still |
| 13:51.54 | grdn | I would like to hang around in undercity all the time, but I'd get to OG when I wanna go to deepholm |
| 13:53.23 | zenzio | most of the capitals feel too cramped for my taste. Stormwind was never huge, but it feels smaller now |
| 13:53.24 | grdn | well, ironforge was a ghost city too, before MC opened :) |
| 13:53.36 | zenzio | that might be |
| 13:53.53 | zenzio | I started playing in January 2006, don't know anything before that |
| 13:54.03 | grdn | no problem |
| 13:54.09 | rtharper | Humbedooh: explain yourself: http://goo.gl/SLaHP |
| 13:54.23 | nevcairiel | it wasn't actually that much faster to MC from IF then from SW |
| 13:54.40 | grdn | dunno why, I always preferred SW |
| 13:54.53 | grdn | later I switched over to IF cuz everybody was there |
| 13:54.54 | jnwhiteh | rtharper: haha |
| 13:55.08 | rtharper | =p |
| 13:55.13 | jnwhiteh | did he record that? |
| 13:55.18 | rtharper | haha I don't think so |
| 13:55.23 | rtharper | but I hold him responsible for the entire Danish language |
| 13:55.27 | jnwhiteh | indeed |
| 13:55.30 | jnwhiteh | and Fisker |
| 13:55.37 | rtharper | Is Fisker even Danish |
| 13:55.39 | zenzio | nevcairiel: I think it might've just been psychology. To me Flame's... Crest? or whatever in Burning Steppes felt more tedious, and that place in Searing Gorge felt closer |
| 13:55.49 | rtharper | wants proof. |
| 13:56.10 | nevcairiel | he is |
| 13:57.37 | Lopeppeppy | I picked my heart spot based on what was convenient and didn't take forever to load due to overpopulation. |
| 13:57.44 | Lopeppeppy | I never, ever hearthed in Shattrath. EVER. |
| 13:58.22 | zenzio | I like the look of Thunder Bluff, but it feel very cramped/busy |
| 13:58.37 | nevcairiel | the hearth spot in shat was ok, no-one ever idled on the faction terraces, so it loaded fine and you only loaded all the players when you went down into the city |
| 13:58.50 | zenzio | Undercity I never liked; kept getting lost, dying in the elevator; and it looked dreary (the latter being reasonable) |
| 13:59.27 | grdn | zenzio: did you know UC had another level, long time ago? THAT was pain ;) |
| 14:00.00 | zenzio | interesting :-o |
| 14:00.18 | grdn | there were 4 rings instead of 3 |
| 14:01.19 | grdn | same with ironforge, the lower level got completely removed |
| 14:01.42 | nevcairiel | iron forge never had another level on live |
| 14:01.58 | grdn | not on live, yep |
| 14:02.03 | nevcairiel | there is only old ironforge which never made it live in the early days, and was then recycled for the cataclysm events |
| 14:02.26 | grdn | there actually happened something? guess I need to play my ally again |
| 14:03.04 | nevcairiel | i read the cataclysm book, it explains what happend to good ol' bronzebeard |
| 14:03.25 | Kraps | yeah that book was great but a downer :( |
| 14:03.57 | grdn | brb amazon |
| 14:03.57 | grdn | :P |
| 14:04.03 | Kraps | heh |
| 14:04.55 | Kraps | i have this too http://www.amazon.com/WarCraft-Archive-Blizzard-Entertainment/dp/1416525823/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1341237867&sr=8-3&keywords=warcraft+anthology |
| 14:05.18 | Kraps | read lord of the clans at least 5 times |
| 14:05.42 | nevcairiel | oh they released a collection of the story books eh |
| 14:05.48 | nevcairiel | i have the singular books :p |
| 14:05.52 | grdn | dito |
| 14:06.01 | Kraps | ah |
| 14:07.06 | zenzio | I bought some of the Warcraft books, only read two of them. I don't have any objection to them, but I found with them, like with many books, I find them lacking in detail. Most likely because my imagination sucks, so I tend to prefer longer, more elaborate books |
| 14:07.45 | grdn | read the ingame books first, get an imagination of the whole warcraft universe, and then continue reading warcraft books ;) |
| 14:07.58 | grdn | thats the way I did, went fine |
| 14:08.39 | zenzio | perhaps sometime. Currently re-reading the Night's Dawn trilogy (... again) |
| 14:09.34 | Kraps | ohhh scifi |
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| 14:18.54 | Fisker | i'm so danish i shit rød grød med fløde rtharper |
| 14:19.04 | rtharper | You should have that checked out |
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| 14:31.48 | Humbedooh | rød grød med fløde is like the easiest challenge :( |
| 14:32.10 | Humbedooh | it only has ø! where's æ and å :\ |
| 14:32.27 | Fisker | why rtharper ? |
| 14:33.10 | rtharper | Humbedooh: the challenge is the r, and d |
| 14:33.28 | rtharper | Danish /d/ in word final position is a very unusual consonant =p |
| 14:33.44 | rtharper | Fisker: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rote_Gr%C3%BCtze_mit_Vanilleso%C3%9Fe.JPG that doesn't look healthy |
| 14:33.57 | Humbedooh | whoever said it was healthy, pfft |
| 14:33.58 | grdn | mmmmhhhhhh |
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| 14:34.06 | grdn | gimme sumthin |
| 14:34.12 | Humbedooh | we invented the danish after all! |
| 14:34.31 | Humbedooh | another tounge twister btw, wienerbrød :) |
| 14:34.32 | zenzio | that's not something to boast about |
| 14:34.48 | Humbedooh | zenzio, but it's so delicious :( |
| 14:34.55 | Fisker | dude rtharper that's Rote Grütze mit Vanillesoße |
| 14:35.10 | Humbedooh | I had to put my danishes in the freezer so I wouldn't just eat 'em all :| |
| 14:35.34 | grdn | Rote Gruetze mit Vanillesosse looks lecker |
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| 14:37.22 | grdn | gimme now Rote Gruetze mit Vanillesosse, please :) @Fisker |
| 14:37.31 | grdn | NAO! |
| 14:37.35 | nevcairiel | i prefer it when its not totally stuffed with gelatin, and still fluid to soem degree :p |
| 14:38.34 | Humbedooh | ofc ofc |
| 14:38.51 | grdn | the Vanillesosse is the best part imo |
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| 14:43.32 | Fisker | no grdn|away |
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| 14:50.57 | bluipodcow | Lol |
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| 15:58.46 | dcrouch | Hey everyone. I'm a moderate python programmer looking to get into customizing my own mods for WOW and was wondering if there's any way to do some extensive testing with WOW's API without a large amount of client restarts needed each time I add more code? |
| 15:59.10 | Primer | yes |
| 15:59.14 | Primer | get wowlua |
| 15:59.20 | Primer | and paste you code into it |
| 15:59.41 | dcrouch | Thanks. :) |
| 15:59.43 | nevcairiel | you only need to restart the game when you add new files |
| 15:59.55 | nevcairiel | when you only modify a file, you can just do /reloadui |
| 16:00.02 | Primer | well |
| 16:00.05 | nevcairiel | or whatever shorthand they added for that |
| 16:00.08 | Primer | I think he's trying to avoid that |
| 16:00.31 | nevcairiel | he asked about client restarts, i told him how to avoid that :P |
| 16:00.42 | Primer | he probably meant reloadui |
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| 16:00.47 | nevcairiel | doubtful |
| 16:00.51 | nilyaK | it took me awhile to figure out I could just reloadui and not restart wow |
| 16:01.08 | nilyaK | like, years >_> |
| 16:01.10 | Primer | well, you can still do what I suggested and avoid reloadui too :) |
| 16:01.19 | nevcairiel | i never liked working on code in wowlua, its just too annoying |
| 16:01.21 | Primer | as long as your code is..public |
| 16:01.27 | Primer | agreed |
| 16:01.31 | Primer | or whatever the term is |
| 16:01.45 | Primer | global, I guess would be a better term |
| 16:01.49 | durcyn | it's not terrible for rough prototyping |
| 16:01.52 | Primer | that was the only drawback |
| 16:02.21 | Primer | yeah, it's great for tweaking UI elements |
| 16:02.54 | Primer | where you're just moving things over a few pixels |
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| 16:06.37 | dcrouch | restarting client as in exit/start wow. /reload ui is not much of a hassle, but having to login and use my authenticator each time would be a hassle. |
| 16:07.14 | dcrouch | public functions, or available to the public? |
| 16:07.36 | dcrouch | I'm going to begin working with the UI so a lot of function testing printing output I would imagine. |
| 16:09.04 | grdn|away | yepp |
| 16:10.11 | dcrouch | wowlua should be easy, I do most of my editing when working with python using ssh+vim (I'm a Linux administrator). |
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| 16:10.26 | grdn|away | vim, cool ;) |
| 16:10.47 | grdn|away | reminds me of good old emacs times, hah |
| 16:11.14 | dcrouch | If only I had the patience to install WOW on Centos. I put that on my work laptop. |
| 16:11.26 | dcrouch | How's this developer community? |
| 16:11.35 | dcrouch | Currently at work on a conference call. LOL |
| 16:12.18 | grdn|away | let me tell you in other words, how the dev comm is: |
| 16:12.23 | grdn|away | a lot of masterminds here! |
| 16:12.24 | grdn|away | ;) |
| 16:12.24 | nilyaK | we're friendly enough I think, except fisker he's all like umad? |
| 16:12.49 | Fisker | what's that got to do with friendliness? |
| 16:13.01 | nilyaK | umad Fisker? |
| 16:13.09 | dcrouch | Nice. I tend to like WOW, but; not the elitest jerk types. :) |
| 16:13.38 | grdn|away | too bad, I'm one of em |
| 16:13.39 | grdn|away | ;) |
| 16:13.53 | dcrouch | And quite bored of Diablo 3 already, victim of wanting to play the game and not the auction house. |
| 16:14.14 | Primer | dcrouch: I have wow running in wine on Fedora. Works fine |
| 16:14.14 | dcrouch | grdn|away, member of guild? |
| 16:14.35 | dcrouch | Primer, how do you think it would work with CentOS? |
| 16:14.36 | Primer | in fact, I did a lot of my addon's development while playing WoW on Linux...at work! |
| 16:14.37 | grdn|away | thought you mean EJ board members and ppl who are interested in calculating WoW |
| 16:15.08 | Fisker | umad nilyaK ? |
| 16:15.12 | Primer | dcrouch: not sure how stale wine packages are on Centos. But you can probably find a third part repo with some updated packages |
| 16:15.13 | dcrouch | grdn|away, I'm not a fan of people who are like L2P, WOW is fine, you suck (trolls) |
| 16:15.17 | Primer | I know Fedora has such a repo |
| 16:15.31 | nilyaK | no, I'm past that fisker, I'm just down :( |
| 16:15.43 | bluipodcow | umat fisker ? |
| 16:15.53 | Primer | I'm compiling the latest and greatest wine from git since I also have Diablo 3 here too |
| 16:15.56 | dcrouch | Primer, I'm open to OS changes, but how do you feel Fedora is for a main platform? |
| 16:16.27 | Fisker | hey bluipodcow |
| 16:16.31 | Fisker | why do you keep lying about your ipod? |
| 16:16.46 | Primer | dcrouch: They're always pushing the envelope. It sometimes feels like I'm an eternal beta tester |
| 16:17.05 | Primer | there are times when it's frustrating, but someone has to be the first to try things |
| 16:17.32 | dcrouch | Primer mind a few PMs? |
| 16:18.08 | Primer | np |
| 16:23.26 | Valdarix | I haven't logged into the beta in a few months, do they have the ore and herb nodes implemented yet? |
| 16:25.37 | sylvanaar_work | i want this lens so bad... it has been in my shopping cart all day on amazon, and I keep talking myself out of it |
| 16:25.41 | sylvanaar_work | http://www.amazon.com/Canon-70-200mm-II-Telephoto-Cameras/dp/B0033PRWSW |
| 16:27.18 | sylvanaar_work | this is how crazy sharp the focus is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonakhtar/7173701755/in/photostream |
| 16:27.20 | Adys | kd3: http://i.imgur.com/Rk2WB.gif |
| 16:28.45 | sylvanaar_work | same picture, just cropped http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonakhtar/7174694013/in/photostream |
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| 16:29.35 | durcyn | if it's the last thing i do, i will destroy the person who decided stuffing ldap server configs into ldif was a good idea |
| 16:33.01 | Adys | Man |
| 16:33.06 | Adys | STAY DOWN, AUCTION HOUSE! |
| 16:33.16 | Adys | Buying a source for 2.1M since last night |
| 16:33.21 | Adys | that thing is easily worth 40 millions |
| 16:36.07 | dcrouch | Diablo 3 auction house is what made me go back to WOW after quitting for over a year, multiple times. 60 wizard, demon hunter, barbarian, and witch doctor. :( |
| 16:39.09 | jnwhiteh | yeah, indeed. |
| 16:39.42 | Adys | any us diablo 3 player here? |
| 16:39.48 | Adys | is gold available on the US rmah? |
| 16:40.37 | jnwhiteh | Adys: i find wizard boring. |
| 16:40.39 | jnwhiteh | is that normal? |
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| 16:41.02 | Adys | jnwhiteh: at lvl 60? it is if you compare it to barb/monk but it takes a lot less gear too |
| 16:41.03 | Adys | brb |
| 16:41.14 | jnwhiteh | nah, this is level 44 right now. |
| 16:41.25 | dcrouch | Adys not last time I checked. I kept buying gold from a gold site... |
| 16:41.38 | dcrouch | Currently have 10 million, bought for less than $21 I think. |
| 16:41.54 | dcrouch | I don't remember quite honestly. |
| 16:42.01 | jnwhiteh | i want to take a principled stand |
| 16:42.03 | jnwhiteh | and not buy gold |
| 16:42.14 | jnwhiteh | because it supports the AH getting all inflated |
| 16:42.18 | Maldivia | dcrouch: so you're the reason for all the compromised accounts... |
| 16:42.22 | jnwhiteh | indeed :P |
| 16:42.27 | dcrouch | Maldivia, huh? |
| 16:43.09 | Maldivia | dcrouch: where do you think the gold sold on gold sites comes form |
| 16:43.18 | dcrouch | And, I'm not the reason, I buy items under 10 million. So I'm not the cause of the 100 million gold plus items that people are buying. If no one buys those items they would not be continually put up there. |
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| 16:43.27 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 16:43.40 | dcrouch | Maldivia, gold farmers, bots, not the same people placing items for ridiculous prices. |
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| 16:44.01 | Fisker | oh ok jnwhiteh |
| 16:44.02 | dcrouch | You guys are the ones making the bots. LOL |
| 16:44.03 | Fisker | be that way |
| 16:44.09 | jnwhiteh | ... |
| 16:44.12 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: k |
| 16:44.19 | Fisker | k indeed |
| 16:46.36 | jnwhiteh | whyusojellybean? |
| 16:47.03 | Kraps | no dcrouch hes saying that gold sites keep your account info or sell it to others so that they can steal your account at a later time and boom, more gold for them to sell |
| 16:47.55 | Fisker | i'm not jelly bean jnwhiteh |
| 16:48.04 | jnwhiteh | oh |
| 16:48.07 | jnwhiteh | whyusogooglenow? |
| 16:48.08 | dcrouch | I have a key authenticator, and have never been compromised since having one. |
| 16:48.50 | Fisker | i'm not jnwhiteh |
| 16:48.52 | Primer | I have no authenticator and have never been compromised |
| 16:49.01 | jnwhiteh | I have no Fisker and I have never been compromised |
| 16:49.03 | Primer | I also have no virus scanner or malware detector |
| 16:49.07 | Ackis | http://i.imgur.com/F4Rw1.jpg |
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| 16:49.58 | Fisker | i have stuck my head in the sand and have therefor not been seen as i myself cannot see |
| 16:50.23 | Kraps | ^ wisdom |
| 16:50.49 | Kraps | fisker is actually a tibetan monk |
| 16:50.56 | Kraps | the worst monk |
| 16:51.50 | bluipodcow | @ackis oh rly ? |
| 16:52.20 | Fisker | hey bluipodcow |
| 16:52.28 | bluipodcow | Oh hai |
| 16:52.31 | dcrouch | Primer, I once watched a video where a guy mentioned if you make more than $10.00 you waste more of your time/money farming for gold, instead of buying, and have thought about how true that is. Time/money is exchangeable, as each is spent no way to really gain back without trading one for the other. |
| 16:52.47 | bluipodcow | Silly fiskery Fisker |
| 16:52.55 | Wobin | 100 million? |
| 16:52.56 | Fisker | hey bluipodcow |
| 16:52.57 | Wobin | really? |
| 16:52.58 | Wobin | >< |
| 16:52.58 | Fisker | you cannot stop me |
| 16:53.13 | bluipodcow | Nope |
| 16:53.16 | Fisker | good |
| 16:53.21 | Fisker | can you stop me Wobin ? |
| 16:53.23 | Primer | dcrouch: I presume you mean "more than $10/hour"? |
| 16:53.34 | Wobin | Fisker: do I want to? |
| 16:53.41 | Fisker | do you? |
| 16:53.46 | Primer | I don't equate game time with real time. For me it's a matter of principle |
| 16:53.48 | Wobin | do I? |
| 16:53.51 | dcrouch | But I've had an account compromised, not sure if anything was missing or not, I took off authenticators and let my friends play. I was told I was found spamming trade. Came back and account seemed fine, put on authenticator after that. |
| 16:53.54 | dcrouch | Primer, Yes. |
| 16:54.00 | Primer | I would never buy gold with real money...because if I did, my wife would kill me |
| 16:54.05 | Fisker | reported for account sharing |
| 16:55.10 | dcrouch | Primer, tell her. "Honey, I wanted to farm some gold, but I figured the time it would take to get said item was too unbearable to spend without you. So I spent, $10, instead..." |
| 16:55.44 | Primer | dcrouch: when I need something farmed, I just get my son to do it :) |
| 16:55.46 | Kraps | that is the worst |
| 16:55.46 | dcrouch | Primer, still new to the whole girlfriend/woman thing, going on 10 months for me. I've known her over 20 years though. Our families grew up, so it seems that it was kind of arranged. :-P |
| 16:56.13 | dcrouch | Primer, my dog is not so good with computers. LOL and I have no kids. Lucky!!! |
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| 17:13.10 | Adys | jnwhiteh: wizard is a boring class to level |
| 17:13.14 | Adys | but |
| 17:13.14 | Adys | if you think its bad |
| 17:13.16 | Adys | try witch doctor. |
| 17:13.26 | Shadowed | Torhal guess what |
| 17:13.36 | Shadowed | the curse client definitely installs MoP versions on Cata |
| 17:13.39 | Adys | jnwhiteh: wiz is second worst, but get a disintegrate build, its quite fun |
| 17:13.58 | nevcairiel | Shadowed: told you so |
| 17:14.08 | Shadowed | it's still easier than dealing with branching |
| 17:14.13 | Shadowed | I'll just blame Torhal |
| 17:14.16 | Shadowed | and Torhal will blame someone at Curse |
| 17:14.18 | Shadowed | and everyone wins |
| 17:14.27 | nevcairiel | Adys: i leveld wiz in a group, was ok playing with others |
| 17:14.30 | jnwhiteh | Adys: hrm.. so diamong/disintegrate basically? |
| 17:14.33 | Adys | nevcairiel: aye |
| 17:14.33 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: I'm all solo =/ |
| 17:14.38 | Adys | jnwhiteh: teleport instead of diamond |
| 17:14.40 | Adys | more fun |
| 17:14.44 | jnwhiteh | Adys: right now i'm blizzard/hydra and its so easy |
| 17:14.45 | nevcairiel | how about, both! |
| 17:14.47 | jnwhiteh | but boring as shit. |
| 17:14.50 | Nimhfree | is it so hard to make one addon that works both in Cata and MoP? |
| 17:14.55 | Adys | jnwhiteh: forget blizz+hydra tbh. |
| 17:14.55 | Shadowed | for UFs, yes |
| 17:14.57 | jnwhiteh | Nimhfree: no? |
| 17:15.04 | jnwhiteh | I have several |
| 17:15.05 | Shadowed | it's kind of a pain in the ass |
| 17:15.08 | jnwhiteh | for any given addon is this an easy thing? |
| 17:15.09 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 17:15.29 | Shadowed | It varies a lot on what the addon does |
| 17:15.32 | Adys | jnwhiteh: Up until hell: Shock Pulse + Explode, disintegrate + explode (or width if you dont have the other) |
| 17:15.40 | nevcairiel | I use the hydra when i remember to place it |
| 17:15.41 | Shadowed | A bar mode, very unlikely it'll work or be easy to make work on Cata/MoP |
| 17:15.42 | durcyn | disintegrate with chaos nexus rune was easier for levelling i found |
| 17:15.44 | Shadowed | mod* |
| 17:15.46 | nevcairiel | usually just disintegrate everything |
| 17:15.52 | nevcairiel | chaos nexus ftw :) |
| 17:16.07 | Adys | jnwhiteh: with teleport+wormhole, archon+whatever, energy armor + mana, magic weap + force weapon |
| 17:16.12 | p3lim | Nimhfree: oUF works :] |
| 17:16.23 | Adys | jnwhiteh: all this with some OP gear and it'll be a lot more fun |
| 17:16.26 | nevcairiel | Shadowed: i still have to figure out what i have to fix in bartender |
| 17:16.29 | pompy | torhal helped me get my wizard to 22k dps.. shit dies fast! |
| 17:16.44 | nevcairiel | Adys: i hit 60 and went weapon shopping, man now its fun :P |
| 17:16.46 | Arrowmaster | mines still only 10k |
| 17:17.10 | Adys | nevcairiel: on my barb: http://oi50.tinypic.com/35cig0i.jpg |
| 17:17.14 | Adys | FUN ^ |
| 17:17.27 | pompy | you have a lot of rares to dsicover Adys |
| 17:17.31 | jnwhiteh | Adys: okay |
| 17:17.32 | Fisker | what the actual fuck Adys |
| 17:17.34 | nevcairiel | 21k on 49, how the hell did you do that |
| 17:17.40 | Adys | Hacking, mostly |
| 17:17.48 | pompy | reduced level req? |
| 17:17.50 | Adys | aye |
| 17:18.08 | Adys | this is an old shot though |
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| 17:18.14 | Adys | im almost at 30k at lvl 51 now |
| 17:18.25 | nevcairiel | that seems too high really |
| 17:18.25 | Arrowmaster | how much have you spent |
| 17:18.33 | Adys | about 50k |
| 17:18.38 | nevcairiel | some degree of challenge has to remain |
| 17:18.48 | Adys | nevcairiel: aye |
| 17:18.53 | Adys | i found the weapon and bought some OP gear |
| 17:18.57 | Adys | for like 2k piece |
| 17:19.24 | Adys | nevcairiel: but no regrets, barb will be my second main |
| 17:19.26 | nevcairiel | i'm on 35k dps in act2 inferno on my DH, and it feels too easy sometimes =p |
| 17:19.30 | jnwhiteh | Adys: and whats 'op' gear? |
| 17:19.39 | Adys | jnwhiteh: high str/vit/sockets |
| 17:19.42 | Adys | for low lvl |
| 17:19.45 | jnwhiteh | str? |
| 17:19.50 | Adys | strength, im a barb |
| 17:19.54 | jnwhiteh | I was asking about wiz |
| 17:19.59 | Adys | oh |
| 17:20.02 | nevcairiel | s/str/int/ |
| 17:20.07 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 17:20.11 | Adys | pretty much |
| 17:20.11 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 17:20.13 | Kraps | how much gold do you guys have and how do you get it |
| 17:20.16 | jnwhiteh | Adys: you've switched to barb now? |
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| 17:20.24 | Adys | jnwhiteh: no, im sticking with my wiz |
| 17:20.27 | jnwhiteh | cool |
| 17:20.28 | Adys | but barb will be my backup |
| 17:20.35 | Adys | jnwhiteh: get +mana on gear btw |
| 17:20.38 | nevcairiel | Kraps: just running around and collecting mostly, sometimes selling some drops in the AH |
| 17:20.39 | jnwhiteh | my monk is FINE in multiplayer |
| 17:20.45 | Adys | jnwhiteh: also a slow high dps 2hander |
| 17:20.49 | jnwhiteh | just can't solo worth a damn |
| 17:20.52 | jnwhiteh | Adys: ah, 2h.. okay |
| 17:21.03 | Adys | jnwhiteh: For disintegrate, 2hander = awesome |
| 17:21.03 | nevcairiel | i was wondering about weapons on my wiz, i currently have 1h+source |
| 17:21.09 | nevcairiel | but it eats mana faster |
| 17:21.09 | Adys | nevcairiel: level? |
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| 17:21.12 | nevcairiel | 60 |
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| 17:21.17 | jnwhiteh | when is the next item tier after level 45? |
| 17:21.18 | Adys | nevcairiel: Keep that setup |
| 17:21.27 | Adys | basically, for wizard |
| 17:21.32 | Adys | 2h is better for some spells |
| 17:21.33 | jnwhiteh | or, what are all the tier entry levels? |
| 17:21.39 | nevcairiel | i just killed diablo hell in my group on sunday |
| 17:21.44 | Adys | jnwhiteh: 45 is a perfect level to gear up |
| 17:21.48 | jnwhiteh | what do you gem weapon for a wiz? |
| 17:21.51 | nevcairiel | my DH is a bit further into ifnerno |
| 17:21.52 | Adys | then gear up again at 51 |
| 17:21.53 | jnwhiteh | dmg? |
| 17:22.09 | Adys | jnwhiteh: dmg at low lvl, crit at 50+ |
| 17:22.11 | dcrouch | I have 1200 min resistance all on my wizard, like 28k health a shield, 6.8k armor, 20k DPS, 70% damage reduction, 650 life/second, and 50 life on hit. She tanks. |
| 17:22.14 | Kraps | cand even beat diablo on normal with a wiz |
| 17:22.35 | jnwhiteh | .. |
| 17:22.36 | jnwhiteh | really? |
| 17:22.42 | dcrouch | Diablo on Hell difficulty can't even damage my wizard. |
| 17:22.42 | jnwhiteh | Teleport -> win |
| 17:22.45 | Adys | dcrouch: I dont have much in resists but the way my gear has been going, I actually have 70k hp now |
| 17:22.49 | dcrouch | I have more life/second than he hits for. |
| 17:22.50 | Jamash | fail? |
| 17:23.22 | Jamash | @kraps: don't get hit |
| 17:23.26 | dcrouch | All my gear is resists int/health, some has crit damage, some has crit. |
| 17:23.28 | Kraps | havent played in a couple of weeks though |
| 17:23.48 | nevcairiel | diablo on normal was the hardest of the diablos for me |
| 17:23.53 | nevcairiel | mostly because he was new, i guess :P |
| 17:23.54 | dcrouch | My demon hunter can't get hit. But I haven't played in like a week though, went back to Wow. |
| 17:24.07 | Jamash | use the shield power that buffs your armor and the passive that gives you life regen when you have a shield up |
| 17:24.23 | Adys | nevcairiel: I dont know, pre-dmgnerf pre-groupnerf pre-droprates diablo inferno was pretty fucking insane :P |
| 17:24.23 | Jamash | don't be afraid to use the health wells |
| 17:24.33 | nevcairiel | Adys: havent done infern diablo yet :P |
| 17:24.39 | Adys | its a joke atm |
| 17:24.51 | Jamash | you can use the arch to block some of diablo's attacks |
| 17:25.03 | Adys | brb |
| 17:25.18 | Jamash | and don't get caged :P |
| 17:25.49 | jnwhiteh | Adys: when do I pop archon? |
| 17:25.56 | Adys | when you see a lot of mobs |
| 17:26.00 | nevcairiel | i'm still figuring out my spells on 60 now, i kinda hate all the signature attacks |
| 17:26.08 | Adys | i dont have a signature |
| 17:26.16 | nevcairiel | i run out of mana :p |
| 17:26.17 | Adys | nevcairiel: i have hydra+arcane orb |
| 17:26.59 | jnwhiteh | Adys: how much will this change come hell? |
| 17:27.06 | jnwhiteh | cause I'm mid-act3 now |
| 17:27.09 | Adys | depends on your gear |
| 17:27.11 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 17:27.32 | Adys | keep going to the AH, spend 50-60k once in a while and you wont run into trouble |
| 17:27.32 | nevcairiel | i recently put archon back into my bar because its just fun to use |
| 17:27.41 | Fisker | i'm an archon |
| 17:28.44 | nevcairiel | i usually forget placing the hydra |
| 17:28.45 | nevcairiel | so meh |
| 17:29.10 | Adys | what spells do you haveN |
| 17:29.11 | Adys | ? |
| 17:30.35 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 17:30.41 | jnwhiteh | diamond skin is a crutch of mine =/ |
| 17:31.01 | durcyn | teleport+fracture imo |
| 17:31.01 | jnwhiteh | Mortar minions and I don't know how to handle them with this build :P |
| 17:31.13 | nevcairiel | eletrocute+lightning blast, disintegrate+chaos nexus, diamong skin+crystall shell, archon+improved archon, teleport+fracture and poison hydra |
| 17:31.42 | nevcairiel | i usually just disintegrate until oom, then electrocute until mana full, and repeat :P |
| 17:31.59 | nevcairiel | i also have the passive that gives me mana on signature spells |
| 17:32.00 | nevcairiel | but meh |
| 17:32.13 | bluipodcow | jnwhiteh: I read that as diamond croutch |
| 17:33.47 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 17:34.13 | jnwhiteh | I swapped diamond in for magic weapon |
| 17:34.15 | jnwhiteh | ez |
| 17:35.15 | sylvanaar_work | i just die a lot |
| 17:36.04 | sylvanaar_work | i have 25k base dps and I hate wasting it on kiting |
| 17:36.53 | sylvanaar_work | diamond is like 9k, my hp is 40k and i die in less than 1s |
| 17:37.50 | sylvanaar_work | I cant decide if life drain actually works or not...I have it on my weapon and it doesnt seem to have any effect |
| 17:38.09 | nevcairiel | turn on healing numbers |
| 17:38.19 | sylvanaar_work | they are |
| 17:38.26 | sylvanaar_work | i dont see many |
| 17:38.32 | durcyn | drain is reduced by 80% on inferno |
| 17:38.37 | sylvanaar_work | oh |
| 17:38.39 | sylvanaar_work | that splains it |
| 17:38.49 | durcyn | life on hit/kill works |
| 17:39.13 | nevcairiel | i was wondering if damage numbers were broken, when i have hydra out on mobs that have damage reflect, it looks like someone emptied a bucket of tiny numbers on my head |
| 17:39.15 | sylvanaar_work | does life on hit work per tic on channeled spells |
| 17:39.42 | sylvanaar_work | yeah, that is funny |
| 17:42.03 | sylvanaar_work | why cant they put that shit in the tooltip, that is is reduced by 80% |
| 17:42.13 | sylvanaar_work | seems like a no brainer |
| 17:43.56 | Dagmar | heheh |
| 17:44.18 | sylvanaar_work | oh hey lets reduce it to near zero, and just not tell them. |
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| 17:44.28 | sylvanaar_work | they'll love it |
| 17:44.30 | Dagmar | that's what makes it a challenge. |
| 17:44.36 | sylvanaar_work | exactly |
| 17:44.42 | Dagmar | "Suprise! All two handed weapons are now made of cheese." |
| 17:44.58 | durcyn | if you could keep your leech gear, you wouldn't have to buy new items, and the auction house is the only thing blizzard cares about |
| 17:45.42 | sylvanaar_work | well, there isnt much else to the game |
| 17:45.49 | sylvanaar_work | no map editors, no mods |
| 17:45.56 | sylvanaar_work | Im waiting for torchlight2 |
| 17:46.05 | sylvanaar_work | which will have both |
| 17:46.11 | sylvanaar_work | and cost $20 |
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| 17:50.13 | karl_w_w | VLC is unable to open the MRL 'rtmp://cp32059.live.edgefcs.net/live/rwim_core@70783'. Check the log for details. <- number 1 reason I hate VLC |
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| 18:01.48 | bluipodcow | I'm getting a popup to download the toucharcade app .... From within the app in question |
| 18:02.03 | bluipodcow | Areyoukiddingme.jpg |
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| 18:04.36 | Kraps | sylvanaar_work, i found torchlight 1 really boring |
| 18:04.55 | TC-Work | HERETIC! |
| 18:05.06 | Kraps | no u |
| 18:05.10 | durcyn | that's because it was boring |
| 18:05.52 | Fisker | hey bluipodcow |
| 18:06.25 | Arrowmaster | i liked torchlight 1 until one of the mods i was using bugged out on me and i lost all my stashed items |
| 18:06.54 | Arrowmaster | dont think i played it after that |
| 18:07.03 | bluipodcow | Hey Fisker |
| 18:07.13 | bluipodcow | Wait |
| 18:07.17 | bluipodcow | You cann |
| 18:07.19 | AcidWeb | hmm another Nuclear Dawn copy |
| 18:07.20 | Fisker | wait yourself |
| 18:07.26 | AcidWeb | Somebody want steam gift? |
| 18:07.27 | bluipodcow | Mod torchlight |
| 18:12.42 | Arrowmaster | AcidWeb: of what |
| 18:12.49 | AcidWeb | Nuclear Dawn |
| 18:13.07 | nilyaK | *shrug* idk what that is, my friend just got me to DL TF2 yesterday |
| 18:15.17 | sylvanaar_work | nilyaK: say goodbye to your life...and your new quest for hats |
| 18:15.45 | sylvanaar_work | hats, hats, keys, crates, refined.... |
| 18:16.17 | AcidWeb | First Person Hat Simulator |
| 18:16.44 | nilyaK | I still don't understand the hat thing |
| 18:16.46 | sylvanaar_work | i mean those folks are serious about that shit |
| 18:16.48 | nilyaK | is there a list of hats somewhere? |
| 18:16.51 | nilyaK | and how do I wear them |
| 18:16.54 | nilyaK | and can I make my own? |
| 18:16.56 | Arrowmaster | theres a wiki |
| 18:16.58 | sylvanaar_work | people have paid $1000 for a hat |
| 18:17.07 | sylvanaar_work | there is a spreadsheet |
| 18:17.14 | Dagmar | You must play for about 100 hours to gather the necessary materials |
| 18:17.19 | sylvanaar_work | with all the values |
| 18:17.20 | nilyaK | also I really suck at it, I just play an engineer or medic because otherwise I'm like what the hell moving things I can't click on them |
| 18:17.33 | sylvanaar_work | i play it quite a bit with my friends |
| 18:17.39 | sylvanaar_work | it is mindless and fun |
| 18:17.52 | Dagmar | I like the comments the characters make |
| 18:18.07 | sylvanaar_work | i like to airblast people off the side of one of the maps with the flamethrower |
| 18:18.11 | Dagmar | Especially the heavy... "LEETLE CART NOT PUSHING SELF!" |
| 18:18.26 | Dagmar | sylvanaar_work: You might like the new pyro glasses then |
| 18:18.30 | sylvanaar_work | i can do that literally for hours |
| 18:18.33 | sylvanaar_work | i have them |
| 18:18.37 | sylvanaar_work | they are trippy |
| 18:18.39 | TMc51 | pyro glasses ftw |
| 18:18.45 | Dagmar | I was disappointed that the entire map doesn't change |
| 18:18.47 | sylvanaar_work | and that bubble gun |
| 18:19.06 | sylvanaar_work | did you guys sign up for the adult swim hat? |
| 18:19.25 | Dagmar | I was reading about the crates... finally realized that no, I have no intention of spending the entire weekend playing this around the clock so my drop chances are high enough |
| 18:19.36 | Dagmar | It's fun, but not THAT much fun |
| 18:19.46 | Dagmar | 10man raids drop more loot |
| 18:19.54 | sylvanaar_work | you can buy keys with real money and trade for crates |
| 18:20.26 | Dagmar | Can... but not about to |
| 18:21.08 | Dagmar | So... Anderson Cooper came out |
| 18:21.39 | durcyn | so what? |
| 18:22.14 | Dagmar | I find it kinda amusing that even his own news network is like 'Yeah, so did you have something to tell us we didn't already know?' |
| 18:24.12 | sylvanaar_work | yeah, just saw that too |
| 18:24.14 | durcyn | because it's not news? |
| 18:24.39 | sylvanaar_work | well it isnt breaking news |
| 18:25.13 | sylvanaar_work | im sure there are lots of red state folks who didnt know |
| 18:25.28 | durcyn | it's not news at all imo |
| 18:25.38 | sylvanaar_work | i agree |
| 18:26.02 | Dagmar | There are lots of red state people who listen to Rush |
| 18:26.04 | Dagmar | They don't count. |
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| 18:28.58 | sylvanaar_work | i think rush is like bill maher is to me... it try to relate that way. maybe being angry and hateful to a right winger is like comedy to a left winger |
| 18:29.15 | sylvanaar_work | --spelling |
| 18:29.25 | sylvanaar_work | try to make it out |
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| 18:30.04 | bluipodcow | I can has steam summer sale ? |
| 18:30.08 | Unkle | Talking heads are all just entertainment. If you're really internalizing their positions, you've forfieted critical thinking. |
| 18:30.30 | AcidWeb | Steam Summer Sale |
| 18:30.50 | AcidWeb | Another sad time for my wallet |
| 18:32.10 | Corrodias | it has not started yet... so it seems |
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| 18:34.02 | nevcairiel | i still have games from last year that i didnt even start |
| 18:34.08 | nevcairiel | fuck those sales |
| 18:35.25 | Corrodias | hey, this game looks kind of neat. it's colorful, good brawling acti- oooh, it's free to play. yeah that's not happening. |
| 18:36.19 | sylvanaar_work | nevcairiel: games are like fetish items for me. i buy them just so I can have them. most i never play |
| 18:36.29 | Corrodias | hey, same for me :D |
| 18:36.44 | sylvanaar_work | get torchlight 2, and stop there |
| 18:36.52 | sylvanaar_work | its going to be great and it is cheap |
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| 18:37.26 | nevcairiel | torchlight 1 was great for a few hours, then it was just boring because it was even more repetetive then d3 :p |
| 18:37.45 | sylvanaar_work | yes, but T2 is multiplayer, has a map editor and moddable |
| 18:38.27 | TC-Work | at least the good things with the sales now is that i own most of the games |
| 18:38.29 | TC-Work | that i want |
| 18:39.16 | sylvanaar_work | now (of course) im looking at the sale |
| 18:39.36 | karl_w_w | worst affix combo ever |
| 18:39.55 | karl_w_w | 1 group extra health desecrator |
| 18:40.00 | mckenziemc | Fisker Fisker Fisker mckenziemc? |
| 18:40.09 | karl_w_w | the other group vortex jailor |
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| 18:51.51 | Stanzilla | any shaman here? |
| 18:52.02 | Stanzilla | need to find out which shaman spell gives melee haste in 5.0 now |
| 18:54.25 | Stanzilla | nvm found it |
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| 19:00.31 | Unkle | Are you talking about FLurry? |
| 19:04.32 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 19:04.34 | Stanzilla | Unleashed Rage |
| 19:05.17 | karl_w_w | wha |
| 19:05.29 | karl_w_w | blizzard changed UR to haste :( |
| 19:05.37 | karl_w_w | no sense of tradition |
| 19:05.59 | pompy | they took off "rating" to a lot of stats too |
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| 19:07.18 | pompy | it made Torhal|work go into a tizzy hehe |
| 19:07.50 | Unkle | Enhancement Shaman are really being pushed at haste but … it does not make me happy. |
| 19:08.27 | Fisker | :( haste |
| 19:08.28 | Fisker | you are now UR |
| 19:08.32 | Kraps | i love haste |
| 19:08.37 | Kraps | in any game |
| 19:08.39 | nilyaK | assassinrogues omg |
| 19:08.42 | Kraps | as any class |
| 19:08.43 | haste | I R HASTE |
| 19:08.43 | pompy | ~wowhead unleashed rage |
| 19:08.43 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?search=unleashed rage |
| 19:08.50 | pompy | ~wowhead "unleashed rage" |
| 19:08.50 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?search="unleashed rage" |
| 19:08.51 | nilyaK | %20 |
| 19:08.53 | pompy | boom |
| 19:09.13 | Kraps | ~wowhead unleashed_rage |
| 19:09.13 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?search=unleashed_rage |
| 19:09.22 | nilyaK | purl should url encode |
| 19:09.30 | nilyaK | ~wowhead unleashed%20rage |
| 19:09.30 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?search=unleashed%20rage |
| 19:09.38 | pompy | underscore loil |
| 19:09.43 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 19:09.47 | Stanzilla | hey Fisker |
| 19:09.50 | Fisker | ever had to kill a guy? |
| 19:09.57 | Kraps | it did the same thing! |
| 19:10.00 | Stanzilla | not yet |
| 19:10.37 | nilyaK | recommends her link. |
| 19:10.49 | pompy | ~wowhead spell unleashed_rage |
| 19:10.49 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?search=spell unleashed_rage |
| 19:10.53 | pompy | heh |
| 19:13.36 | Torhal|work | tizzies pompy across the back of the head. |
| 19:14.23 | pompy | wtf |
| 19:14.42 | Torhal|work | I never go into a tizzy. Until just then. |
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| 19:30.50 | kd3 | oh, boo |
| 19:30.56 | kd3 | wunderground sold out to the weather channel |
| 19:32.47 | Arrowmaster | when? |
| 19:32.54 | kd3 | today |
| 19:32.56 | kd3 | http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=2143 |
| 19:33.50 | pompy | https://twitter.com/wunderground/status/219860720748216320 too |
| 19:34.34 | Arrowmaster | well at least it sounds like they were bought because they had the better product that weather channel wanted instead of being bought just because they are competition |
| 19:34.53 | Dagmar | Maybe the idea was to buy them to shut them the fuck up |
| 19:35.09 | pompy | "We will now be called Weather Underground, LLC, and will maintain the wunderground.com web site as it is." |
| 19:35.12 | Dagmar | They had this distressing tendency to *sue* anyone trying to distribute weather data |
| 19:35.22 | Arrowmaster | well the post says that the WunderMap will appear on weather.com at some point |
| 19:35.41 | Arrowmaster | i just wish the WunderMap would work on my phone |
| 19:35.45 | Dagmar | You could scrape METAR directly from NOAA, which is _taxpayer funded_ and they would threaten to haul you into court over interfering with their business. |
| 19:35.56 | pompy | ive never heard of this site till now :O |
| 19:36.10 | Arrowmaster | pompy: you fail at internet |
| 19:36.11 | Dagmar | Well, they've got hte fanciest radar app going |
| 19:36.38 | Dagmar | It's still however, not smart enough to deviate from the official forecast when your geolocation data reveals you are getting rained off the face of the earth. |
| 19:36.39 | Corrodias | wunderground (is this german?) was litigation-happy? |
| 19:36.44 | Arrowmaster | they have an app? or do you mean the wundermap on the site? |
| 19:36.48 | Dagmar | It'll sit there and say "20% chance" |
| 19:36.49 | grdn | wunderground is not german :) |
| 19:36.54 | Fisker | i once wundergrounded kd3 |
| 19:37.35 | Dagmar | Example http://www.wunderground.com/wundermap/?lat=36.14975357&lon=-86.86695099&zoom=8&pin=Nashville%2c%20TN |
| 19:38.14 | Fisker | all i see is half-rendered google maps tiles |
| 19:38.25 | Dagmar | Try using a real internet. |
| 19:39.40 | Fisker | i did |
| 19:40.47 | pompy | Dagmar: 94F , feels like 103F? |
| 19:40.49 | pompy | damn |
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| 19:41.03 | Dagmar | Hell it *was* 103F a few days ago. Actually hit 110F |
| 19:41.10 | kd3 | that sounds like us |
| 19:41.16 | pompy | surprising its only 83.4F, feel slike 84F here today |
| 19:41.20 | kd3 | we broke all-time heat records over the weekend |
| 19:41.26 | Dagmar | I told my boss if it starts raining like hell by 5pm, I have no problems with leaving work on time |
| 19:41.28 | Unkle | It's hot. Africa hot. Tarzan coudn't take this kind of hot. |
| 19:41.39 | Dagmar | Unkle: Nope. |
| 19:41.42 | Stanzilla | you guys should get proper temperature measures |
| 19:41.43 | Stanzilla | like |
| 19:41.43 | Stanzilla | C |
| 19:41.47 | Dagmar | I actually looked that up yesterday. |
| 19:41.50 | Dagmar | AFRICA IS COOLER. |
| 19:42.01 | Arrowmaster | its winter there |
| 19:42.07 | End_ | I prefer Rankine |
| 19:42.08 | Unkle | Dagmar: It's a quote from a movie. |
| 19:42.16 | Dagmar | We were a good ten degrees higher |
| 19:42.38 | Arrowmaster | because its winter there |
| 19:42.44 | Dagmar | I feel like we should demand a refund from someone |
| 19:42.46 | pompy | ~lart Stanzilla |
| 19:42.46 | purl | nabs the moon and broadsides Stanzilla with the sea of tranquility |
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| 19:43.37 | kd3 | 86 outside, 50% humidity |
| 19:43.45 | kd3 | forecast of 99. ick ick |
| 19:44.43 | Unkle | I got into the car today and lost a couple of kilos of water weight near instantly. |
| 19:45.14 | nilyaK | 57F here |
| 19:45.15 | Stanzilla | pompy: it's true |
| 19:45.29 | nilyaK | and cloudy |
| 19:45.33 | nilyaK | you guys must live in not Seatt |
| 19:45.35 | nilyaK | le |
| 19:45.36 | kd3 | ...why is chrome using a core and a half to display google reader? |
| 19:45.42 | kd3 | grrs |
| 19:46.03 | Unkle | nilyaK: I leave on the Gulf of Mexico (SE Texas coast) |
| 19:46.14 | kd3 | is an hour west of atlanta |
| 19:46.17 | Unkle | s/live/leave |
| 19:46.39 | pompy | jersey shore. |
| 19:46.46 | Torhal|work | It shows. |
| 19:46.48 | Torhal|work | ducks. |
| 19:47.21 | Unkle | pompy: I'm sorry. the shore in Jersey is a rough place to call home. |
| 19:47.32 | pompy | because of the show? |
| 19:47.54 | Unkle | No, because the NJ economy and tourism - and the fucking jellyfish |
| 19:48.21 | pompy | havent been to the beach in years even tho im 10 minutes from the atlantic ocean.. nothanks. |
| 19:48.29 | Jamash | my uncle lives in jersey |
| 19:48.30 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 19:48.32 | Jamash | he teaches at rutgers |
| 19:48.33 | Fisker | not so hey Jamash |
| 19:48.34 | Stanzilla | hey Fisker |
| 19:48.39 | pompy | Jamash: nicee |
| 19:48.41 | Jamash | I'm over it, Fisker |
| 19:48.43 | Fisker | chrome for ios Stanzilla ? |
| 19:48.55 | pompy | whats he teach? |
| 19:49.01 | Jamash | MATH |
| 19:49.07 | Stanzilla | Fisker: me no iOS |
| 19:50.07 | pompy | Stanzilla: http://www.facebook.com/Microsoft/posts/415397205166439 |
| 19:50.13 | pompy | Funkeh`: ^ |
| 19:50.13 | Torhal|work | Stanzilla: Fisker is waiting for Firefox OS. |
| 19:50.18 | Stanzilla | pompy: old |
| 19:50.22 | pompy | fu |
| 19:50.23 | pompy | :( |
| 19:50.23 | Stanzilla | Torhal|work: haha |
| 19:51.47 | Jamash | I'm waiting for NCSA Mosaic OS |
| 19:52.05 | pompy | Unkle: the island here after a crazy wind/rainstorm http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/380749_10100131219382435_2039157768_n.jpg |
| 19:52.09 | Jamash | pompy: overpriced |
| 19:52.24 | Jamash | I'd consider installing windows 8 if MS paid me $100 |
| 19:52.35 | Unkle | pompy: Holy crap. What's that, 2.5 feet of water? |
| 19:53.11 | pompy | probably lol |
| 19:54.19 | Jamash | pompy: what am I looking at in that photo? |
| 19:54.34 | Jamash | I mean |
| 19:54.36 | Jamash | I know what water is |
| 19:54.43 | Jamash | what's the thing in the lower left corner |
| 19:56.53 | Cybnext | Looks like a car to me... |
| 19:57.34 | TC-Work | car |
| 19:57.47 | TC-Work | unless boats have side view mirrors |
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| 20:02.13 | Cybnext | http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/whitecrystal1/z%25201997%2520Regal%25202150LSC/DSC01032.jpg |
| 20:02.15 | Cybnext | they do :P |
| 20:02.28 | pompy | Jamash: someoine took the pic rrom within their car |
| 20:02.30 | pompy | from* |
| 20:02.55 | Jamash | buh |
| 20:03.35 | cbreak | 8 is the new vista? |
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| 20:05.38 | dcrouch | I'm on Centos 6.2. :-P |
| 20:07.04 | pompy | http://store.steampowered.com/app/209870/ ftp |
| 20:07.32 | Cybnext | So ... do any of you have suggestions on getting into Lua/WoW coding? I'd like to start but can't even think of what would be a good addon to write |
| 20:08.44 | Cairenn | find something you personally would like to see/have in-game that isn't there |
| 20:08.51 | TMc51 | Agree with Cairenn. |
| 20:09.15 | nilyaK | make an addon that links talent specs in trade chat links, but the links themselves are to the talent calculator so it works for people without the addon and it just parses a link you click on with the addon into an in-game talent calc for all classes. one prob exists though but that's what's not in my UI that I'd like. |
| 20:09.16 | TMc51 | Try going for something you would use yourself. Something that migth make your gameplay more enjoyable, or easier to some degree. |
| 20:09.17 | Cybnext | That's part of the problem, I haven't found the thing that I find missing :P |
| 20:09.31 | Unkle | Or, something that you would like to change about the behavior of the base ui. |
| 20:09.53 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 20:10.11 | kd3 | wow. today, opportunity has been active on mars for 3000 sols |
| 20:10.12 | Jamash | I made mine because I was sick of hunting down spells in the spellbook |
| 20:10.18 | Dagmar | orbital death laser controls. |
| 20:10.32 | Jamash | since the default spellbook is terrible |
| 20:10.41 | Jamash | I'm thinking of writing a complete new spellbook for mists |
| 20:10.46 | kd3 | the new one isn't much better tbh |
| 20:10.48 | Jamash | because the default spellbook is still terrible |
| 20:10.50 | Jamash | yeah |
| 20:11.03 | foxlit | Meh, I like what they did in Mists |
| 20:11.07 | Dagmar | Needs a "sort by hype" |
| 20:11.08 | Cybnext | I actually think the MoP one is worse |
| 20:11.10 | Jamash | can't do anything until I get my laptop back though |
| 20:11.17 | Cybnext | at least the way they sorted everything |
| 20:11.26 | Jamash | Dagmar: it should read the forums and see what the FotM spells are? |
| 20:11.43 | yassd_ | is that a chat of warcraft or world of warcraft? |
| 20:11.51 | foxlit | Jamash: in fact, screw spellbooks. It should just download your action bar confs off the forums :) |
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| 20:11.58 | TMc51 | FotM? You mean Ice Lance isn't going to be FotM every month until the end of time? |
| 20:11.59 | kd3 | lol |
| 20:12.02 | Jamash | but my first addon just added threat numbers to target frames |
| 20:12.13 | Jamash | in the wrath beta, when that info first got exposed |
| 20:12.16 | Jamash | you want to start simple |
| 20:13.06 | Cybnext | I've played with Lua so I get the basics, but editing someone else's code is completely different |
| 20:13.22 | TMc51 | Start with some basic crap liek scanning the combat logh for spell casts, and telling you to interrupt or something. Simple enough even I can do it. |
| 20:13.26 | Jamash | there's knowing the language (important) and understanding the API (equally important) |
| 20:13.33 | dcrouch | I'm going to start tonight, just ouputing text is all. :) |
| 20:13.37 | Jamash | good idea |
| 20:13.46 | Fisker | pls pompy that's not ftp, that's http |
| 20:13.48 | Jamash | at some point I want to make a unix-style shell for wow |
| 20:13.50 | Fisker | so dumb |
| 20:13.58 | dcrouch | Jamash that would be great. :) |
| 20:14.10 | Jamash | mv /spellbook/penance /actionbar/1/1 |
| 20:14.12 | dcrouch | I wonder if they'll open Diablo 3 up. :) |
| 20:14.18 | Jamash | actually that would be cp I guess |
| 20:14.19 | dcrouch | LOL Jamash. |
| 20:14.39 | dcrouch | Diablo 3's auction house seems to be in its early stages. |
| 20:14.50 | Fisker | mad dcrouch ? |
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| 20:15.04 | Jamash | I want AH web apis for D3, in-game api support seems unlikely |
| 20:15.14 | pompy | Fisker: shut it |
| 20:15.20 | Fisker | sup pompy ? |
| 20:15.25 | dcrouch | Fisker, hi. :) |
| 20:15.31 | Fisker | hey |
| 20:15.40 | dcrouch | Jamash not likely. I think they're stepping away from that with Diablo 3. |
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| 20:15.58 | Jamash | I said I wanted it, didn't say I was gonna get it |
| 20:16.04 | dcrouch | Elkano as in Elkano bars? |
| 20:16.17 | Elkano | yes, no, maybe |
| 20:16.22 | Jamash | but they absolutely ought to at the very least provide read-only AH dumps from the D3 AH |
| 20:16.37 | Jamash | so people can build up market data |
| 20:16.42 | nebula169 | the public face of apiness said no |
| 20:16.42 | Fisker | Elkano is german |
| 20:16.46 | dcrouch | I remember using those bars a while ago. Trying to stay default, since I played for a bit. Funny thing is only mod I really have outside of combuctor now is grid, and a few PVP addons. |
| 20:16.55 | nebula169 | nothing with ah is planned, nothing at all |
| 20:16.57 | Jamash | right now it takes way too much time to find out what something's worth |
| 20:17.01 | Jamash | nebula169: I know that |
| 20:17.04 | Jamash | plans change |
| 20:17.23 | Jamash | I still use elkano's buff bars |
| 20:17.24 | dcrouch | Grid, is just because everytime someone logged out UI messed up where I had to /reload ui just to get the portrait to really be assigned to who it said it was. |
| 20:17.30 | pompy | Jamash: Q: Will the AH have API access in a similar manner to WoW? |
| 20:17.30 | pompy | A: There are no plans to create an AH API (even read-only) for gold, hardcore gold or real money. |
| 20:17.37 | Jamash | pompy: old |
| 20:17.41 | pompy | totally |
| 20:17.44 | Jamash | plans change |
| 20:18.07 | dcrouch | Jamash, I think that's the answer in short, "We realize the game sucks and there are bigger things to fix ATM." |
| 20:18.19 | Jamash | yeah, I'm not saying they should do it by tomorrow |
| 20:18.21 | nilyaK | like d2 |
| 20:18.24 | Jamash | but they should do it eventually |
| 20:19.20 | Jamash | I dropped grid, the base UI raid frames are adequate for my needs |
| 20:19.29 | dcrouch | Jamash are you a healer? |
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| 20:19.38 | Jamash | dcrouch: not a raiding one |
| 20:19.40 | Jamash | in bgs sometimes |
| 20:19.41 | dcrouch | Also, did you have a paladin named Jamaza? |
| 20:19.43 | Jamash | nope |
| 20:19.57 | dcrouch | Jamash in BGs I get so annoyed when someone leaves the game and UI frames update inaccurately. |
| 20:19.59 | Jamash | haven't raided since ICC |
| 20:20.07 | dcrouch | So I try to heal someone and wind up with the wrong target... |
| 20:20.13 | Jamash | base frames or grid? |
| 20:20.18 | dcrouch | Base frames. |
| 20:20.20 | Jamash | weird |
| 20:20.28 | Cybnext | I have that problem with vudho... |
| 20:20.34 | Cybnext | someone will leave and they can't update properly |
| 20:20.40 | dcrouch | I mentioned that in /battleground and people suggested the fix was use grid. LOL |
| 20:20.45 | dcrouch | I'm like awkward, ok... |
| 20:20.54 | nebula169 | in bgs and lfr base frames bug out sooo much |
| 20:21.07 | Jamash | probably can't deal with xrealm properly |
| 20:21.10 | dcrouch | Only issue I have with grid is battleground size changes based upon battleground. Easy fix, but... |
| 20:21.18 | Jamash | wait, is lfr xrealm? |
| 20:21.25 | nebula169 | yea |
| 20:21.39 | Jamash | there's a grid plugin for bg size, isn't there? |
| 20:21.49 | pompy | Arrowmaster: break out the wallet!! http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/725529/assassins-creed-3-limited-edition-has-been-announced/ |
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| 20:22.18 | Fisker | is it ftp? |
| 20:22.21 | dcrouch | I quit WOW in like 2007-2009, And a year between 2011-2012. So, there are some changes I'm getting used to. Quit right before LFR, so, I have yet to complete one. |
| 20:22.34 | Arrowmaster | pompy: but no info on who the fuck is going to sell it |
| 20:22.46 | pompy | :\ |
| 20:23.43 | Fisker | i will now wave |
| 20:23.44 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: like it matters? you would buy from the devil for a CE. |
| 20:23.47 | Fisker | waves |
| 20:23.51 | Arrowmaster | i would |
| 20:24.54 | Jamash | does the wave |
| 20:25.42 | Unkle | Arrowmaster: You have been buying from the Devil… GameStop |
| 20:25.51 | Arrowmaster | not recently! |
| 20:26.01 | TC-Work | yes, you got one CE there |
| 20:26.17 | TC-Work | because it was only there iirc |
| 20:26.19 | Arrowmaster | i try to return as much stuff as i can to gamestop |
| 20:26.36 | Jamash | I hope the AC3 "running into huge crowds of brits and not getting killed for no discernible reason" trailer is just as misleading as the hitman "nuns with guns" trailer |
| 20:27.13 | Jamash | why the hell do people make giant action setpiece trailers for stealth games |
| 20:27.16 | Ackis | http://i.imgur.com/LaV3g.jpg |
| 20:28.08 | Unkle | Ackis: lulz. |
| 20:28.51 | Torhal|work | Dafuq? |
| 20:30.35 | Dagmar | I'd watch it. |
| 20:30.47 | Jamash | naptime |
| 20:30.57 | Ackis | wonder if it's better than world of whorecraft |
| 20:33.33 | pompy | Ackis: Halo: Reach Around |
| 20:33.39 | pompy | ducks |
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| 20:37.51 | pompy | http://www.wowhead.com/quest=26665/call-of-booty |
| 20:38.10 | Elkano | lucky Ackis, SSS didn't star today... |
| 20:42.57 | arkanes | surely it should be MODERN whorefare |
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| 20:44.25 | TC-Work | Diablo3some just sounds wrong. |
| 20:44.37 | dcrouch | LOL |
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| 20:55.51 | Kraps | still cant beat diablo |
| 20:55.58 | Kraps | i feel bad |
| 20:56.13 | TC-Work | on what difficulty? |
| 20:56.34 | Kraps | normal |
| 20:57.01 | TC-Work | thats.....unusual |
| 20:57.22 | Kraps | it is |
| 20:57.36 | Kraps | im a wizard |
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| 20:58.11 | Kraps | in normal and most of nightmare you can just stand and punch stuff |
| 20:58.15 | foxlit | and you're dying to.... |
| 20:58.16 | Kraps | as a monk |
| 20:58.45 | Kraps | i'm getting to the part after the shadow realm |
| 20:59.12 | Fisker | hey TC-Work |
| 21:00.27 | Kraps | i guess the CDs arent coming up fans enough for me |
| 21:01.18 | Kraps | fast* |
| 21:01.18 | foxlit | so, anyway, as a wizard... you don't want to be hit |
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| 21:01.36 | Kraps | i'm trying i'm trying |
| 21:01.54 | foxlit | Most things should be avoidable |
| 21:01.58 | Primer | get better gear |
| 21:02.02 | dcrouch | Kraps, probably not the right cooldowns. Ask a friend to help. Normal I two shot I think (took 2 tries), on Nightmare one shot, on hell I had a friend help. My wizard I stopped playing in Act 3 Inferno. Now Diablo on Hell difficulty can't out damage my regen. :-P |
| 21:02.43 | dcrouch | Kraps what level are you? |
| 21:02.49 | Kraps | 30 |
| 21:02.52 | foxlit | but specifically, phase 3 should be easier than phase 1 |
| 21:03.06 | Kraps | really |
| 21:03.16 | Kraps | the reverse is true for me |
| 21:03.17 | foxlit | He loses the ability to port to you, iirc. |
| 21:03.20 | dcrouch | In phase 2 I kept getting one shot in nightmare if I didn't pop CDs and avoid. LOL Especially on Demon hunter. |
| 21:03.42 | foxlit | so all you're contending with are a bunch of ranged damage abilities that you can just move out of and shadow prisons, which you can move out of even easier. |
| 21:04.30 | Amarande | heh, D3 seems to have definitely reversed the difficulty trend of Diablo from D2 |
| 21:04.33 | dcrouch | My biggest issue is with Belial, Half the time I tried to move I clicked on Belial and started attacking. But I don't do enough damage with my farming spec to kill him before enrage... I had a friend help me. |
| 21:04.45 | Amarande | In D2, Diablo was hardest on Normal, then much easier on both Nightmare and Hell |
| 21:05.12 | foxlit | Kraps: just keep him a screen away and lob seeking magic missiles in his direction. |
| 21:05.58 | foxlit | heh, oops, level 52 req on that. |
| 21:06.05 | dcrouch | Amarande, Diablo 3 seems largely based upon gear, better your gear, the better your chance is of succeeding. With mediocre skill required... My problem is once I got to 60 I decided I didn't have enough time to want to farm the gear I wanted... Thus bought gold, bought gear, then decided it was boring. |
| 21:06.06 | Kraps | haha was about to say |
| 21:06.12 | foxlit | well, hydras work. |
| 21:07.16 | Kraps | i have diamond, teleport, hydra, archon, lmb is electrocute, rmb is orb |
| 21:08.01 | foxlit | archon seems kind of meh to me. |
| 21:08.32 | foxlit | it's probably on cooldown more often than not in that fight |
| 21:08.39 | Kraps | yes |
| 21:08.52 | Kraps | explosive blast? |
| 21:09.09 | foxlit | I wouldn't want to be in melee range. |
| 21:09.32 | Kraps | oh earlier someone said energy armor |
| 21:10.51 | foxlit | could be an option if you need mitigation. |
| 21:11.00 | dcrouch | Kraps, try something like this. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#ZcXQYR!aXW!baZ.Za |
| 21:11.50 | dcrouch | Also, leveling up I recommend stamina on almost every piece of gear for survival. For speed make sure every piece of gear has +exp +damage for your class +health. |
| 21:12.29 | dcrouch | No joke, found out about archon form at 44.5 and had a level 60 weapon with -18 level requirement (570 damage or so). Hit level 47 in 25 minutes. |
| 21:13.13 | Amarande | dcrouch: some people said D2 was largely based around gear, too, but there are some pretty amazing feats |
| 21:13.14 | dcrouch | Strategy was to speed through and continually attack so I wouldn't lose archon form. Also after level 40+ I had over 200+ exp/kill and +25% exp/kill. |
| 21:14.02 | Amarande | like beating Chaos Tristram on hardcore, using no gear that isn't of Normal tier quality |
| 21:14.13 | dcrouch | Amarande, of course, 2 users with the same gear, the one with better skill would come out ahead. |
| 21:14.33 | Amarande | I wonder if such feats are possible in D3, or have they balanced it more like WoW so that the math simply forbids even the most skilled player from succeeding undergeared in Hell or Inferno? |
| 21:14.51 | dcrouch | I quit Diablo 2 in like 2003 or before. So I don't know about Chaos Tristram. |
| 21:17.30 | dcrouch | Amarande, sure are. I'm not sure how much you know about Diablo 3. But before a recent patch Demon hunters stacked Increased attack speed as their most important stat ending up with like up to 350kDPS. The effect of Increased attack speed throughout the game has been decreased by 50% on all items but quivers. So my friend with 332kDPS dropped down to 230kDPS and mine went from 135kDPS to 106kDPS. |
| 21:18.37 | dcrouch | Amarande, Demon hunters were literally melting enemies in their paths, allowing them to not need health. If they got hit once they would die, but would have a spammable cooldown to be immune to direct damage. Which is a lot harder than it seems when about 30 mobs in the game can almost attack you from completely off the screen. |
| 21:19.21 | Amarande | Heh, that's not much different from D2, the latter bit |
| 21:19.32 | Amarande | In fact, certain mobs can even indeed attack you from entirely off the screen |
| 21:19.48 | Amarande | It's why people often find themselves feeling a little gloamy when getting ready to finish Act 5 on NM or Hell |
| 21:21.14 | Amarande | Ah, that's right, 1.10 didn't come out till Oct 2003, so after you'd quit the game |
| 21:21.16 | TC-Work | yo Fisker |
| 21:22.01 | dcrouch | I didn't play a single game from like 2003 (early) till 2005 when I started playing WOW. |
| 21:22.33 | Amarande | In 1.10, they changed how mobs spawn in Act 5 on Nightmare and Hell. Some of them are the usual Act 5 mobs, but most of them are "guest" mobs, which are chosen semi-randomly (there's a short list of possibilities per zone) from mob types found in the previous Acts. |
| 21:23.06 | Amarande | At the very end (Worldstone Keep level 2 through the Throne of Destruction), there's a very significant chance of getting Gloams, Oblivion Knights, and Undead Fetishes. |
| 21:23.15 | farmbuyer | Is anyone on the MoP beta at the moment that could send an invite to one of the addon author guilds? I got some code that I ought to test... |
| 21:23.28 | Amarande | Of which the latter two are bad enough, but the Gloams are well known for being able to get you from off-screen (and even when they're on screen, much of the time you can't really see them anyway) |
| 21:23.38 | dcrouch | Addon author guilds? There are guilds of developers? |
| 21:23.46 | kd3 | on the beta servers, yes |
| 21:24.00 | dcrouch | LOL I was looking to transfer to one. LOL |
| 21:24.04 | Amarande | Gloams, if you remember, were those nearly-invisible ghosts in Act 3 and 4 that shot the super-powered lightning bolts |
| 21:24.19 | Amarande | Which got even more super-powered in 1.10 |
| 21:25.06 | dcrouch | Diablo 3 has invisible mobs and burrowing mobs that basically hide till they get in melee range. Which sucks for casters... |
| 21:25.12 | dcrouch | And ranged in general. |
| 21:25.16 | Kraps | wooo beat him |
| 21:25.29 | dcrouch | Congrats Kraps. What did you change? |
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| 21:27.12 | dcrouch | Go on AH if you have the gold and look for weapons with negative level requirement. |
| 21:27.20 | dcrouch | May not start before 42 though. |
| 21:27.40 | Arrowmaster | they do |
| 21:27.58 | Arrowmaster | i sold a level 35 bow with neg level requirements for 500k |
| 21:28.15 | Arrowmaster | 35 was the equip level, not sure about the actual level |
| 21:29.00 | dcrouch | I think 46 I was using a 1270 damage weapon. |
| 21:29.19 | dcrouch | Almost 1700 damage top end 2 hander. |
| 21:29.31 | dcrouch | Really really slow weapon. |
| 21:29.40 | dcrouch | 0.9 or so. |
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| 21:43.24 | Adys | so a friend's wow account got frozen and his diablo acct is now closed since he's on the annual pass |
| 21:43.30 | Adys | i know a few ppl got in the same situation |
| 21:43.47 | Adys | how does he get out of this one without re-buying d3? |
| 21:44.01 | nevcairiel | unfreeze wow? |
| 21:44.15 | Adys | he did that but nothing changed |
| 21:44.22 | Adys | though it might take a little while |
| 21:44.26 | nevcairiel | call customer support? :p |
| 21:44.50 | Adys | its 11pm :p |
| 21:45.16 | foxlit | ooh, ooh! |
| 21:45.22 | nevcairiel | go to sleep, then call customer support? |
| 21:45.23 | foxlit | call customer support.... tomorrow? |
| 21:45.55 | foxlit | Or just use their web ticket service, because who cares for their phone queues. |
| 21:46.19 | Amarande | how did his wow account get frozen? |
| 21:46.28 | Adys | he stopped paying... |
| 21:46.31 | Adys | i kinda meant to ask if there was an automated way to do it, and whether unfreezing wow would be enough |
| 21:46.42 | Dagmar | ...which sort of means he's not abiding by the terms of the Annual Pass agreement. |
| 21:46.48 | Dagmar | *derp* |
| 21:47.00 | Adys | yeah, er |
| 21:47.01 | Amarande | Ah, the annual pass isn't a single payment for the whole year arrangement like the LOTRO 12-month plan? |
| 21:47.06 | Dagmar | nope. |
| 21:47.10 | Adys | it happened to me too, i was just lucky because i had the collector edition |
| 21:47.21 | Dagmar | You *could* pay the whole thing up front, but all it really requires is a _committment_ |
| 21:47.24 | Adys | its supposed to be recurring |
| 21:47.27 | Adys | go figure why its not |
| 21:47.33 | nevcairiel | For annual pass you basically just tell them that you wont cancel your account for a year |
| 21:48.08 | Adys | tbh its retarded they get you in a contract and dont send you reminders about it when you're about to break it |
| 21:48.35 | Adys | my registrar sends me reminders every single month |
| 21:49.16 | Dagmar | Well... part of that is sort of the reason minors aren't allowed to sign binding contracts. |
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| 21:49.46 | Dagmar | It sounds mean, but _as an adult_ you're supposed to be able to manage to adhere to contracts written in plain language without someone else continually reminding you 'don't do that'. |
| 21:50.24 | Adys | Blizzard's interest is keeping people playing |
| 21:50.41 | Adys | if they shut long-time players out they're losing business |
| 21:51.00 | Adys | if i forget to pay my isp, they cut my net |
| 21:51.04 | Adys | they don't uninstall my cable. |
| 21:51.06 | arkanes | I got a new card and my account got frozen because I forgot to update my billing info |
| 21:51.19 | Adys | that, pretty much |
| 21:51.37 | Adys | http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5149622576 |
| 21:51.38 | arkanes | I fixed it right away and got the stuff back with 24 hours, the resub message said to call customer support so I did that but the lady said I didn't actually have to |
| 21:51.39 | Adys | i hope this is a joke |
| 21:52.19 | nevcairiel | that reminds me, i need to call my bank because my CC is expiring next month and they have been somewhat quiet about it |
| 21:52.33 | arkanes | this was before d3 actually launched, so post-launch it might be different |
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| 21:53.45 | nevcairiel | oh well next wow renewal is in november, plenty of time to fix the CC info :p |
| 21:55.51 | Stanzilla | how about fixing addons mister nevcairiel *troll* |
| 21:56.06 | nevcairiel | how about, no |
| 21:56.25 | Stanzilla | =( |
| 21:57.27 | Dagmar | I like how they use the word "invested" in that thread. LIke, he "invested" 100 hours of his time. |
| 21:57.45 | arkanes | the fact that they delete your toons is kinda crappy |
| 21:57.47 | Dagmar | Morgan Stearns is just waiting to eat those people alive. |
| 21:58.03 | arkanes | but on the other hand, they do send you emails and stuff about wow |
| 21:58.27 | Dagmar | What would be much more hilarious is if they did it like banks do. |
| 21:58.57 | Dagmar | 7 days pass, your account goes up for auction to the highest bidder, with the minimum bid being your remaining obligation towards your incomplete annual pass agreement. |
| 21:59.09 | Dagmar | Oh yes. |
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| 21:59.25 | Dagmar | You can almost hear the kiddies screaming in terror. |
| 21:59.55 | Dagmar | God I can't be laughing like this while I'm at work |
| 22:00.11 | foxlit | sure you can, you just need an appropriate place of employment |
| 22:00.18 | foxlit | For instance, have you considered Evil Inc? |
| 22:00.26 | Dagmar | They're not hiring right now |
| 22:00.33 | Amarande | Dagmar: how about SPECTRE? |
| 22:00.35 | Dagmar | Oh shit |
| 22:00.40 | Dagmar | Straight-line storms |
| 22:01.19 | Dagmar | Check the news later tonight for tornadoes molesting Bowling Green, Kentucky |
| 22:01.30 | pompy | :\ |
| 22:01.57 | Dagmar | pompy: Yeah the stuff you guys were seeing where the wearther starts looking like a wifi icon is what we're _used_ to seeing here |
| 22:02.49 | Dagmar | A lot of heated air meeting a lot of cooler air, with high pressure behind it, and you get these cool storms that are all edge and as violent as ragnarock |
| 22:03.22 | Dagmar | er Ragnarok |
| 22:05.29 | Adys | woo |
| 22:05.37 | Adys | 4 digit authenticator code |
| 22:05.45 | nevcairiel | lots of zeros, eh |
| 22:05.58 | Adys | just 3651 :P |
| 22:06.09 | Amarande | Apparently the Mid Atlantic thunderstorms and outage are being regarded as a worse disaster than the Oct 29 snowstorm in and around CT this past year, too |
| 22:06.11 | Dagmar | steals Adys' account |
| 22:06.23 | Gnarfoz | too late |
| 22:06.25 | Gnarfoz | :F |
| 22:06.34 | Dagmar | Amarande: Internets went down, man. THat's always a disaster |
| 22:06.41 | nevcairiel | i got 4 digits from the hw token quite often, the mobile one seems resistant to really short codes =p |
| 22:06.51 | Dagmar | You ask anyone in a support dept anywhere. |
| 22:06.52 | Adys | nevcairiel: this is mobile algorithm |
| 22:07.20 | nevcairiel | well with 8 digits maximum, 4 is a lower chance then it is with the 6 from the hw |
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| 22:11.41 | Kraps | If your World of Warcraft subscription lapses during the Twelve Month Commitment, or if you fail to make any required payments or timely payments, Blizzard reserves the right to terminate your participation in this offer in addition to any and all other remedies that may be available to Blizzard at law. |
| 22:11.46 | Kraps | welp |
| 22:12.48 | Arrowmaster | the silly thing is you cant pay your wow sup with your Blizzard Balance so i doubt they would just deduct the money from your balance (if you had any) to play for the sub |
| 22:13.26 | Amarande | hmm, is http://www.wowhead.com/item=2633 permitted to Blizzard at law? :D |
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| 22:24.24 | Arrowmaster | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHeipUKdRWE |
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| 22:28.42 | kd3 | damn you world server, stop crashing right as I'm about to kill a 13m health quest mob |
| 22:29.54 | Amarande | MoP quest mobs have nearly as much health as Lana'thel and the Lich King? |
| 22:32.22 | Kraps | what kind of dps are you looking at |
| 22:32.36 | Amarande | Kraps: you know, the "annual pass" should just have been a 12-month subscription timeframe, like LOTRO does :S Then there wouldn't be all these people having issues |
| 22:33.05 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:33.11 | Amarande | of course, on the other hand, you actually get stuff from having a WoW subscription, while the subscriber benefits of LOTRO become less and less by the month ... heh |
| 22:33.18 | Amarande | (which is why I gave up my LOTRO subscription and returned to WoW0 |
| 22:34.30 | Unkle | Amarande: Why does this shock you? Mobs in MoP zones are 85+ and thus have higher levels of health, etc. than mobs aimed at level 80 characters. |
| 22:34.54 | Amarande | Unkle: well yeah, but I wasn't expecting millions |
| 22:35.11 | kd3 | that's only for boss-type quest mobs |
| 22:35.13 | Unkle | Big numbers in this expansion. |
| 22:35.26 | Amarande | yeah, but with quest bosses like that, by T16 or so people will be soloing the Lich King heh |
| 22:35.41 | xyphoid | people already did that didn't they? |
| 22:35.45 | Kraps | hey can you not launch the wow launcher if you dont have a sub? |
| 22:35.57 | Unkle | No, some boss fight mechanics make certain bosses nearly impossible to solo. |
| 22:35.57 | kd3 | I also have a quest ability that does 500k damage |
| 22:35.59 | Amarande | actually, heh, come to think of it. *can* you solo the Lich King, ever, regardless of your power level, or will you just be dragged and dropped by the valks once you reach P2? |
| 22:36.08 | kd3 | average level 90 mobs have 393,000 health |
| 22:36.33 | xyphoid | i thought there was a hunter lk solo a few months back |
| 22:36.53 | Amarande | (can't remember now if the valks can pick up the tank though ... and I'm presuming that whenever soloing a raid boss, abilities that don't get used on the tank will never be used at all) |
| 22:37.09 | xyphoid | http://durendil.blogspot.co.nz/2012/02/long-live-king.html |
| 22:37.45 | Amarande | although I seem to recall that occasionally you get a boss that determines whether or not a player is 'the tank' by different means than the simple 'whoever has aggro' |
| 22:38.20 | Amarande | IIRC, Sindy wouldn't frost beacon a tank, and it seems she wouldn't frost beacon the OT either, even when they didn't have aggro, suggesting she had some sort of "intelligent" means of determining whether or not someone qualified as a tank |
| 22:38.52 | Amarande | I'm not sure if we were ever able to figure it out. We were convinced for a while that it was based on whether you met a minimum threshold of max HP but I think that got busted at some point |
| 22:39.10 | clever | tank spec/class? |
| 22:39.45 | Kraps | ahaha im laughing too hard at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci9vrTZeaSU |
| 22:39.56 | Amarande | yeah, I'm wondering if some bosses actually read your talent spec and/or class in to determine if you are a tank or not |
| 22:39.56 | Unkle | Probably the same means they use to determine "tank" threat bonuses. They listed a set of criteria in the blogs about changing how threat worked. |
| 22:40.23 | Torhal | threatens Unkle with boozelessness. |
| 22:40.23 | Amarande | although most seem to simply treat whoever has aggro as the tank, when it comes to not using "don't use this on the tank" things |
| 22:40.57 | Unkle | Torhal: I am well supplied - the liquor cabinet has bottles I've been unable to get to yet! |
| 22:41.08 | Torhal | Bwah! |
| 22:41.10 | Unkle | Ok, really it is a shelf in my pantry. |
| 22:41.32 | clever | Amarande: maybe they use the simple method if the fight doesnt require an OT? |
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| 22:54.31 | Kraps | ERROR #134 (0x85100086) Fatal condition! |
| 22:54.33 | Kraps | Program:C:\World of Warcraft\Wow.exe |
| 22:54.34 | Kraps | ProcessID:1976 |
| 22:54.36 | Kraps | :( |
| 22:58.42 | arkanes | Amarande: they do |
| 22:59.07 | arkanes | Amarande: in wotlk it was based on spec and some people used that to cheese encounters |
| 23:01.51 | Amarande | and for that matter, how should the boss be able to know what the players' spec is? :) |
| 23:02.12 | Amarande | You're an enemy player. You can't inspect hostile players ... |
| 23:03.33 | Unkle | LULZ - https://twitter.com/9to5Life/status/219909259238981632 |
| 23:08.02 | clever | Amarande: the boss is not a player, it has access to everything |
| 23:08.12 | clever | its just a script running on the server |
| 23:08.45 | clever | it probly has access to every piece of gear, every talent choice, and the exact location of your toon on the map, even if your behind a wall/out of sight |
| 23:09.08 | clever | and last i tried, /inspect worked on horde when i was alliance |
| 23:14.24 | Amarande | clever: did it work when both of you were pvp flagged? |
| 23:14.36 | Amarande | I think it works while you're not actually hostile to one another but not when you are, as I seem to remember |
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| 23:16.53 | bleeter | https://p.twimg.com/Aw1U1pNCMAAKcil.jpg:large |
| 23:18.34 | Kraps | hate when that happens bleeter |
| 23:20.35 | clever | Amarande: i believe i was unflagged at the time |
| 23:21.25 | kd3 | eh, that got put up at 4:34. I'm amazed it was spelled coherently |
| 23:22.29 | clever | bleeter: lol |
| 23:30.20 | Amarande | hmmm, I think Polymorph may have semi-permanent effects! |
| 23:30.35 | pompy | ... lol .. http://hellofajob.co.il/?lng=eng |
| 23:30.35 | Amarande | I sheeped one of these two blood elves, then when I killed him he had four pieces of wool cloth on him ... Hmmmm ... :) |
| 23:33.24 | Kraps | what in the hell pompy |
| 23:35.45 | karl_w_w | sheep does have a permanent effect |
| 23:36.18 | karl_w_w | when you use it on somebody in pvp, from that moment on they permanently QQ about mage crowd control |
| 23:37.26 | pompy | Kraps: haha |
| 23:38.34 | Amarande | yay 23, I can finally use the dungeon finder again |
| 23:39.56 | karl_w_w | is that real pompy? |
| 23:40.15 | pompy | i believe so.. thats if the site is legit lol |
| 23:41.52 | pompy | Arrowmaster: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/asin/B008FPV88U/amazzoon-20 "Steam - DRM" |
| 23:41.54 | pompy | interesting. |
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| 23:52.23 | pompy | oh hey look.. the bnet service was down before and the ah is currently down.. heh. |
| 23:52.36 | pompy | ~d3alert |
| 23:52.36 | purl | http://us.launcher.battle.net/service/d3/alert/en-us (US) or http://eu.launcher.battle.net/service/d3/alert/en-gb (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
