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| 00:10.00 | iHaleth | all my gear on beta has +10000-something to stats |
| 00:10.00 | Myridin | gn everyone |
| 00:10.02 | iHaleth | :D |
| 00:10.04 | iHaleth | nn |
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| 00:20.02 | TC-Work | ok, trying to do a webpage in python is a pain in the ass |
| 00:21.39 | Kaylin | is there a specific reason you're using python? |
| 00:22.37 | TC-Work | not really, other than i want to learn it |
| 00:22.52 | Kaylin | ah okay |
| 00:27.30 | Arrowmaster | "Android is upgrading..." "Optimizing application ?? of 201." |
| 00:27.41 | Arrowmaster | ok this is new, and what the fuck i dont have 201 applications installed |
| 00:27.56 | Kaylin | not yet |
| 00:28.29 | Arrowmaster | hmm actually i might, i have 116 listed in the play store + any from amazons store + any system apps |
| 00:28.50 | Arrowmaster | + humble bundle for android apps |
| 00:34.55 | durcyn | keep us posted, this is riveting stuff |
| 00:35.12 | kd3 | blah. my device got an update to 7.2, but no cm9 nightlies |
| 00:35.52 | Arrowmaster | kd3: cm9-rc1 is out, if they are doing a cm9 for your device it might not be built yet |
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| 00:52.33 | Arrowmaster | hmm the default launcher is rather simple |
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| 01:23.51 | bluspacecow | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kerouac_ontheroad_scroll.jpg |
| 01:23.54 | bluspacecow | :| |
| 01:25.41 | Kaylin | yso :| |
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| 01:28.00 | bluspacecow | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Road |
| 01:28.26 | bluspacecow | "The first draft of what was to become the published novel was written in three weeks in April 1951 while Kerouac lived with Joan Haverty, his second wife, at 454 West 20th Street in Manhattan, New York. The manuscript was typed on what he called "the scroll":[13] a continuous, one hundred and twenty-foot scroll of tracing paper sheets that he cut to size and taped together. The roll was typed single-spaced, without margins o |
| 01:28.26 | bluspacecow | paragraph breaks. In the following years, Kerouac continued to revise this manuscript, deleting some sections (including some sexual depictions deemed pornographic in the 1950s) and adding smaller literary passages" |
| 01:28.37 | bluspacecow | word processing before they had a word processor :/ |
| 01:36.09 | kd3 | a (soon to be) do-it-yourself darwin awards winner: http://imgur.com/Zkzcj |
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| 01:38.50 | pompy | bluspacecow, karl_w_w: http://nerdreactor.com/2012/06/26/building-virtual-legos/ |
| 01:39.22 | bluspacecow | :| |
| 01:39.27 | bluspacecow | oh dear lord |
| 01:46.38 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIYOlEJ6lRo Old but still amusing :P |
| 01:58.20 | kd3 | ~ping |
| 01:58.20 | purl | ~pong |
| 01:58.48 | kd3 | huh. my kernel's networking stack is freaking out but I haven't lost the net yet? |
| 02:10.57 | Torhal | INteresting post: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5889190446 |
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| 02:17.16 | karl_w_w | why do I care about lego? :P |
| 02:17.55 | pompy | you know why |
| 02:22.18 | karl_w_w | don't think I do |
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| 02:25.14 | pompy | bc it had australia in it, thats why i pinged you. |
| 02:25.52 | karl_w_w | ah |
| 02:33.19 | TC-Work | why would karl_w_w care? |
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| 02:46.56 | karl_w_w | apparently I live in australia which means I care more than the australians in here |
| 02:52.06 | TC-Work | karl_w_w is to aussies as i am to canadians |
| 02:53.03 | pompy | is confused, thought you were karl_w_w |
| 03:09.04 | pompy | http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/539708_10151878906570377_188991901_n.jpg |
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| 03:47.33 | Adys | so anyway |
| 03:47.35 | Adys | *AWESOME* |
| 03:47.38 | Adys | http://www.gog.com/newsletter/promo_telltale_launch |
| 03:48.22 | kd3 | holy |
| 03:48.36 | Adys | im tempted to get all three |
| 03:51.41 | Arrowmaster | Adys: in what episode of DW does this happen "The Tenth Doctor mentions knowing Arthur Dent of Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy." |
| 03:52.01 | Dagmar | "Very british" |
| 03:52.09 | Dagmar | Tennant running around in a bathrobe |
| 03:52.31 | Arrowmaster | got a season and episode number? |
| 03:52.40 | Arrowmaster | oh wait |
| 03:52.44 | Adys | Arrowmaster: either the one where he takes donna to see agatha christie, or the one with martha |
| 03:52.51 | Dagmar | He didn't really say he knew Arthur Dent, just that it was "very Arthur Dent" |
| 03:52.57 | Adys | where he meets.. uh.. |
| 03:53.10 | Adys | hm, might not have been with martha |
| 03:53.42 | Dagmar | This here's a FIGHTIN hand |
| 03:53.46 | Adys | charles dickens |
| 03:54.02 | Adys | thats with rose |
| 03:54.10 | Adys | martha was shakespeare |
| 03:54.22 | Adys | so im guessing the agatha christie ep |
| 03:54.46 | Adys | which would be s4 ep somethingsomething late season something |
| 03:55.17 | Adys | look towards the end of the episode where he gets old books out |
| 03:55.21 | Dagmar | Christmas Invasion as far as I know |
| 03:55.26 | Adys | no |
| 03:55.28 | Dagmar | He's just transformed into Tennant |
| 03:55.38 | Dagmar | Fighting on the hull of a ship in a bathrobe |
| 03:56.03 | Adys | oh that scene |
| 03:56.18 | Adys | no im pretty sure Arrowmaster was refering to something else |
| 03:56.30 | Dagmar | See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Dent |
| 03:56.50 | Arrowmaster | http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy |
| 03:57.21 | Adys | im thinking of something else then |
| 03:57.29 | Dagmar | Dude, even that one says the Christmas Invasion |
| 03:57.48 | Adys | yeah gimme a break, havent watched this stuff in years |
| 03:58.03 | Adys | well, couple years |
| 03:58.18 | Dagmar | Inside giggles like that stick in my head |
| 03:58.25 | Arrowmaster | well the St. Elsewhere crossover chat uses that line "The Tenth Doctor mentions knowing Arthur Dent of Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy." as reasoning for linking DW and HHGTTG |
| 03:58.29 | Dagmar | They spend so much time taking credit for oddities in history |
| 03:58.59 | Arrowmaster | s/chat/chart/ |
| 03:59.23 | Dagmar | Knowing of was the sense I got out of it. He knows about the book |
| 04:00.01 | Dagmar | They're British |
| 04:00.14 | kd3 | a dog that's happy to wear human clothes? http://i.imgur.com/FkZDv.jpg |
| 04:00.17 | Dagmar | You know they can't be seen in public in a bathrobe for more than ten minutes without mentioning Dent |
| 04:00.35 | Adys | kd3: Look into this dog's eyes |
| 04:00.37 | Adys | they say |
| 04:00.42 | Adys | "GET THIS SHIT OFF ME" |
| 04:01.17 | Dagmar | "When you sleep, I will eat your couch for this" |
| 04:04.32 | TC-Work | so i am listeing to a song called 'How to be eaten by a woman' ..... |
| 04:04.44 | Kaylin | in what sense? |
| 04:04.45 | Arrowmaster | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oOahULB08E&feature=share |
| 04:05.24 | kd3 | probably the "How to serve man" sense |
| 04:05.37 | TC-Work | i have no idea, thats just what it's called |
| 04:11.14 | Dagmar | That man is insane |
| 04:14.21 | Dagmar | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgQWp_Hlius |
| 04:15.39 | Dagmar | Also, Glitch Mob are not dubstep. Hipsters die now khx |
| 04:17.26 | Dagmar | Some twit asked me what dubstep track I was listning to Saturday night... It was *Orbital*. |
| 04:17.34 | Dagmar | If I had a lawn... |
| 04:23.50 | Dagmar | watchin' Eureka (finally). I know what I want for Christmas. |
| 04:28.43 | Arrowmaster | http://majornelson.com/2012/06/26/xblas-kinect-adventure-game-haunt-free-for-a-limited-time/ |
| 04:28.58 | Arrowmaster | bah i cant get the stupid thing to show up on my xbox dash, probably because i dont have kinect |
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| 06:41.23 | nefftd | Any UI designers on, have you guys had issues getting pixel perfection in the last few patches? No matter what I do, I cannot get pixel-perfect lines on certain regions of the screen anymore. |
| 06:42.25 | nefftd | I've tried many tricks. The old 768/resolution, disabling scaling, using math.floor hacks, even forcing re-anchoring to BOTTOMLEFT origin with math.floor. Certain regions of the screen will not allow integer x/y values for some reason. |
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| 07:27.57 | jnwhiteh | Adys: Blizzard/Hydra kiting is fun.. but only for so long :P |
| 07:34.57 | AcidWeb | jnwhiteh: I dont found any other playable inferno build ;p |
| 07:38.54 | jnwhiteh | this is actually Nightmare, heh |
| 07:39.20 | jnwhiteh | but I suspect I'm undergeared in general |
| 07:39.25 | jnwhiteh | haven't bought anything in like 12 levels |
| 07:40.49 | karl_w_w | I haven't bought anything at all and I feel like my gear isnt too bad |
| 07:41.11 | jnwhiteh | I was a monk before |
| 07:42.06 | karl_w_w | I suspect wizards are much better at coping with dodgy gear than monks are |
| 07:42.30 | jnwhiteh | well pre-inferno I had 0 issues with my monk |
| 07:42.53 | jnwhiteh | with so much survivability with blind/serenity/heal/transcendence |
| 07:42.59 | jnwhiteh | I just need to get used to it, I think |
| 07:46.52 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, monks are way less powerful than wizards across the board at every level generally |
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| 07:47.11 | Mr_Rabies | i foresee wizard/DH nerfs in the future, once bugs are ironed out |
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| 08:15.24 | Fisker | a jnwhiteh |
| 08:20.51 | haste_ | a Fisker is fine too |
| 08:25.10 | Fisker | a Fisker is tired :( |
| 08:27.00 | Mr_Rabies | care should be taken when handling a fisker, as they are known for their aggressive demeanor |
| 08:27.22 | Mr_Rabies | their mating call sounds like "u mad?" and bothering them during this time could be a costly mistake |
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| 08:35.34 | TMc51 | Quick question. Can you register or unregister a function in the same way as you can an event? |
| 08:37.15 | mitch0 | you mean SetScript()? |
| 08:37.41 | TMc51 | Yeah |
| 08:37.42 | mitch0 | you can SetScript("OnUpdate", nil) |
| 08:37.59 | mitch0 | or whatever the null constant in lua is, kinda forgot ;) |
| 08:38.55 | TMc51 | Before, I'd just been registering and unregistering CLEU, but now I've got a handful of other stuff relying on it to outright unregister it. |
| 08:39.26 | TMc51 | Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Cheers. |
| 08:44.49 | karl_w_w | I thought it was only possible to have 1 onevent handler per frame |
| 08:45.32 | karl_w_w | so surely setting it to nil has exactly the same effect as unregistering for the event, assuming it's the only event that frame gets |
| 08:47.33 | TMc51 | Yeah, didn't think about that. They're different frames, so no need, anyways. little sleep mixed with painkillers = stupider than usual. |
| 08:48.11 | karl_w_w | in that case, I would have to wonder why you have more than 1 frame registered for the same event :P |
| 08:49.12 | karl_w_w | sounds like a recipe for both inefficiency and race conditions |
| 08:50.20 | TMc51 | in that case, would you recommend splitting the spell tracking, and kill tracking into separate modules? |
| 08:53.38 | karl_w_w | just have 1 frame which gets cleu, first thing you do in the handling function is check if the combat log event is one that you care about |
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| 08:54.21 | karl_w_w | at that stage you can decide if kills or spells aren't important at the moment |
| 08:55.31 | TMc51 | thanks |
| 08:55.47 | karl_w_w | it's hard to say exactly what you should do without knowing exactly what you want to do :P |
| 08:57.02 | karl_w_w | but basically cleu is so spammy, you want to make sure you're discarding as many of the irrelevant ones as possible as early as you can |
| 08:57.43 | TMc51 | You pointed me in the right direction. It shouldnt be difficult to filter between kills and spells, and enable/disable one without the other. Should've thought of it myself, but pretty loopy at the moment. |
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| 09:01.40 | Myridin | morning |
| 09:01.46 | mckenziemc | hello |
| 09:01.48 | zenzio | heya |
| 09:01.53 | TMc51 | yo |
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| 09:29.44 | znf | http://wowinterface.com/bonfires.php <--- how exactly do these things work like? >_< |
| 09:34.44 | Cairenn | znf: what do you mean? read the clue, figure out what page it's on, click on it |
| 09:35.14 | znf | Cairenn, I've been trough all the "relevant" pages, I'm not seeing them :) |
| 09:35.43 | Cairenn | any chance you've got blocking software on your browser that is making them not show for you? |
| 09:36.18 | znf | adblock is paused |
| 09:36.29 | znf | oh dear god |
| 09:36.31 | znf | I saw it |
| 09:36.33 | znf | >_< |
| 09:36.40 | znf | wow... that's right below the footer |
| 09:36.41 | Cairenn | IM'd you *points to other ...........heh |
| 09:36.52 | Cairenn | did say to scroll allll the way down |
| 09:37.08 | znf | yeah, but wasn't expecting it to, uhm, "blend" so much with the background :D |
| 09:37.13 | Cairenn | heh |
| 09:37.15 | karl_w_w | what you do is set up your html scraper to scan the pages for the images... |
| 09:37.31 | znf | karl_w_w, that means I need to know what I'm looking for :D |
| 09:37.40 | karl_w_w | just find it once manually :P |
| 09:37.51 | znf | yeah, well, I didn't know what I was looking for :D |
| 09:38.04 | Myridin | welp, already done all my chores now, nothing left to do in the apartment now and it's 11:37 |
| 09:38.36 | zenzio | http://imgur.com/4YrVJ - really dislike those kinds of popup |
| 09:38.47 | zenzio | +s |
| 09:39.07 | Myridin | that's not a popup, that's a screenblocker, jesus |
| 09:39.24 | znf | yay, found all 5 |
| 09:39.54 | znf | anyway, that page should provide a screenshot of how the bonfire looks like, judging by the forum comments of other people who didn't find them either :-) |
| 09:40.00 | znf | thanks for the tip, Cairenn |
| 09:40.05 | zenzio | Myridin: how so? |
| 09:40.06 | Cairenn | znf: welcome |
| 09:40.16 | Myridin | it's huge :p |
| 09:40.30 | znf | Myridin, that's a pop-up, opens up in a new window, so pop-up :) |
| 09:40.46 | Myridin | pfff, I know, I was merely judging by size :p |
| 09:41.26 | karl_w_w | I don't want a headset and I'm already on the beta, why do I miss out on all the fun :P |
| 09:41.31 | zenzio | Myridin: I see your point |
| 09:41.42 | Myridin | I now have about 14 hours left today to work on my UI |
| 09:41.46 | znf | karl_w_w, I don't mind the headset, but yeah, I'm in the beta, too |
| 09:42.06 | znf | WTB "instant ding to 90" button :( |
| 09:42.23 | Myridin | Not that I'll ever upload it, cause I'm not good at it, but it'd be nice to at least have something half decent I could show on screenshots |
| 09:42.40 | zenzio | karl_w_w: join in the fun and give it to a friend |
| 09:43.03 | karl_w_w | i dont think i even know any1 who doesnt have beta access |
| 09:43.17 | Myridin | ~Hi there karl, nice to meet you |
| 09:43.18 | purl | Many greetings, there karl, nice to meet you, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 09:43.19 | Myridin | ;) |
| 09:43.54 | Myridin | Mists of Pandaria Beta keys (Hundreds) |
| 09:43.57 | Myridin | Hundreds? |
| 09:44.00 | Myridin | I might have a chance then! |
| 09:44.05 | karl_w_w | Cairenn: are the won beta keys transferrable? |
| 09:44.58 | Cairenn | dons her official hat - "Of course not" |
| 09:45.10 | karl_w_w | :P |
| 09:45.21 | Myridin | Although, as a newbie, these questions are tough for me :p |
| 09:45.24 | karl_w_w | wonders off into the night |
| 09:45.45 | karl_w_w | wanders*? whatever |
| 09:45.56 | zenzio | wondering off does sound fun |
| 09:46.16 | Myridin | How long would it take to just open every url on the site and scan that :P |
| 09:48.45 | Cairenn | Even being a newbie, they shouldn't be that hard to track down |
| 09:49.48 | Myridin | "burned down our website you know" |
| 09:49.49 | Myridin | LOL |
| 09:49.53 | Myridin | that's 1. |
| 09:50.02 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 09:51.14 | Myridin | When's the results going to be by the way? Are they going to be announced on the site, or do you get an e-mail/pm ? |
| 09:51.28 | Cairenn | 5 July |
| 09:52.06 | Myridin | Alright |
| 09:52.14 | Myridin | I don't think I'll be at work then ;) |
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| 09:55.02 | Myridin | woo, that's the second one :D |
| 09:57.06 | Myridin | still need to find 3 and 4 and then I can head over to WoWhead |
| 09:57.23 | Cairenn | and 5 |
| 09:59.16 | Myridin | I had 5 :| |
| 09:59.21 | Cairenn | ah |
| 09:59.45 | Myridin | 3 is going to be impossible for to figure out |
| 10:00.12 | Fisker | slaps Cairenn around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:00.27 | Cairenn | slaps a large trout around a bit with Fisker |
| 10:00.57 | Myridin | one of the bonfires isn't working for me |
| 10:01.11 | Cairenn | Not working how? |
| 10:01.21 | Myridin | when I click it just redirects me to the contest page |
| 10:01.28 | Cairenn | hmmm |
| 10:01.50 | Cairenn | can you IM me with the page it's on, please? |
| 10:01.56 | Myridin | sure |
| 10:02.19 | Fisker | you should also IM me |
| 10:04.19 | Fisker | yeeeeeeeees |
| 10:04.21 | Fisker | YEEEEEEES |
| 10:08.26 | Myridin | well |
| 10:08.33 | Myridin | I found 4 now, wieeee |
| 10:08.48 | karl_w_w | 3 is the easiest one :P |
| 10:09.53 | Myridin | It took me a while to figure out |
| 10:10.00 | Myridin | I'm not that bright :D |
| 10:10.49 | Myridin | Hah, found all of them ;D |
| 10:10.57 | Cairenn | grats |
| 10:11.40 | Myridin | There's 10 of them on wowhead |
| 10:11.41 | Myridin | dayum |
| 10:13.01 | karl_w_w | that's because wowhead is obviously inferior to wowi |
| 10:13.12 | karl_w_w | so they need twice as many to make up for it :P |
| 10:13.22 | Myridin | haha |
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| 10:14.52 | Myridin | One question is about an ICC trinket, that turns you into a Vrykul, it's on the tip of my tongue but can't seem to remember it :p |
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| 10:24.15 | Myridin | found 5 on wowhead, but am getting tired of clicking :p |
| 10:25.10 | Myridin | No bonfire here, but some advice would be nice, phanx already helped a lot, but maybe he missed something |
| 10:25.11 | Myridin | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=257212 |
| 10:29.49 | karl_w_w | why not just look at the icc zone page |
| 10:29.52 | karl_w_w | drops tab |
| 10:29.57 | karl_w_w | sort by type :P |
| 10:30.04 | karl_w_w | and look through all the trinkets |
| 10:30.49 | Myridin | found it tho, will continue later ;) |
| 10:31.18 | karl_w_w | on an unrelated note, lame fucking rogan josh, hell yes |
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| 10:32.31 | Myridin | Who or what's rogan josh :p |
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| 10:35.33 | karl_w_w | I do not know |
| 10:35.55 | karl_w_w | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogan_josh |
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| 11:36.27 | karl_w_w | just noticed he type "lame rogan josh" rather than "lamb" |
| 11:36.39 | karl_w_w | awesome |
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| 12:07.21 | foxlit | http://www.blogcdn.com/wow.joystiq.com/media/2012/06/myhealingui-1340205673.jpg http://www.blogcdn.com/wow.joystiq.com/media/2012/06/elvui.jpg http://www.blogcdn.com/wow.joystiq.com/media/2012/06/realui.jpg http://www.blogcdn.com/wow.joystiq.com/media/2012/06/freeui.jpg |
| 12:07.34 | foxlit | those two rows of action bars hanging in the middle of an empty screen seem to be a recurring theme. |
| 12:14.33 | Fisker | umad? |
| 12:15.35 | rtharper | mikma: http://www.adventure-journal.com/2012/05/weekend-cabin-nido-finland/ |
| 12:16.05 | Myridin | which unit frames would be the easiest to configure to work with shared media |
| 12:16.05 | mikma | let's see |
| 12:16.12 | Myridin | Shadowed or Stuf? |
| 12:17.12 | mikma | rtharper: not bad |
| 12:17.42 | rtharper | this one is also awesome: http://www.adventure-journal.com/2011/11/weekend-cabin-virrat-finland/ |
| 12:18.43 | mikma | rtharper: sure if you with to have snowblindness 24/7 |
| 12:18.47 | rtharper | haha |
| 12:18.49 | Humbedooh | rtharper, but where's the sauna! :( |
| 12:18.58 | rtharper | Humbedooh: I assume it has one, or there is one nearby |
| 12:18.59 | rtharper | =p |
| 12:19.05 | Humbedooh | surely it must |
| 12:19.11 | rtharper | One probably doesn't have to refer to a sauna in Finland, it's simply implied |
| 12:19.26 | mikma | there's a sauna in the latter |
| 12:19.30 | mikma | first one doesn't seem to have one |
| 12:19.40 | rtharper | it's actually a toss up whether to buy a flat first or a summerhouse =p |
| 12:19.42 | Humbedooh | maybe it's got a secret basement ;o |
| 12:19.44 | rtharper | the latter being much cheaper, hehe |
| 12:19.48 | rtharper | Humbedooh: that's for the kill room |
| 12:20.14 | mikma | bdsm dungeon |
| 12:20.26 | rtharper | You know how Finns roll |
| 12:20.28 | Humbedooh | also very finnish, yes |
| 12:20.38 | Humbedooh | yes, they seem to have a kinky side to them |
| 12:20.49 | rtharper | Humbedooh: I think I am a step closer to understanding Danish after watching all of Forbrydelsen |
| 12:20.49 | mikma | no |
| 12:20.52 | mikma | we have a normal side |
| 12:20.56 | rtharper | I started to know what they were saying by the end =p |
| 12:21.00 | Humbedooh | rtharper \o/ |
| 12:21.17 | rtharper | So when jnwhiteh and I come visit you can speak with your mouth full, it's cool |
| 12:21.33 | rtharper | (Actually I like Danish, just fyi) |
| 12:21.36 | Humbedooh | prepares the baked potato |
| 12:21.41 | rtharper | although I am always amazed when I hear someone speak it at full speed |
| 12:21.57 | rtharper | I just can't believe you can say it so effing fast with the stød and all ;) |
| 12:22.05 | rtharper | (Do you learn about the stød in school, or is that just a linguist thing?) |
| 12:22.06 | Humbedooh | yes, it can be a bit hard to understand when a word starts and stops ;> |
| 12:22.33 | Humbedooh | I think that just comes natural to us |
| 12:22.46 | rtharper | oh it does |
| 12:22.50 | rtharper | but I didn't know if Danish people were like |
| 12:22.51 | rtharper | aware of it |
| 12:23.04 | rtharper | or if you only learned about it as a second language speaker |
| 12:23.29 | foxlit | "yes, it can be a bit hard to understand when a word starts and stops" << that's really the same for any language you don't speak |
| 12:23.46 | Humbedooh | yeah I think our awareness of it becomes apparent when we start learning other languages and notice that there's something off about our own ;) |
| 12:23.50 | rtharper | hahaha |
| 12:23.58 | Humbedooh | foxlit, but very much so for Danish |
| 12:24.10 | Kalroth | I have no ide hvad du snakker om |
| 12:24.13 | zenzio | wouldn't say so Humbedooh |
| 12:24.16 | zenzio | try French |
| 12:24.34 | rtharper | zenio: language studies do back up that Danish children acquire the full phonology of the language much later than other children |
| 12:24.52 | zenzio | that's because no-one can understand Danish |
| 12:24.59 | rtharper | haha |
| 12:25.23 | rtharper | also they learn to read much later |
| 12:25.42 | rtharper | since their written language is...broken |
| 12:25.46 | Kalroth | "Fisker fandt først femten frisk-fodrede fjæssinger" say this quickly 3 times in a row |
| 12:25.47 | Humbedooh | what rtharper says :) I'm only paraphrasing what I've read in studies about our lingo |
| 12:26.08 | rtharper | Kalroth: are you Danish? |
| 12:26.13 | Kalroth | Yessir |
| 12:26.16 | rtharper | wtf |
| 12:26.18 | rtharper | how many of you are there |
| 12:26.19 | Humbedooh | you just had to bring Fisker into this, didn't you |
| 12:26.19 | foxlit | rtharper: how does one cancel general laziness in those studies? |
| 12:26.25 | Kalroth | Humbedooh: hard not to! |
| 12:26.31 | rtharper | foxlit: of an entire population of children? =p |
| 12:26.32 | Kalroth | rtharper: just around 6 million |
| 12:26.40 | foxlit | rtharper: of the entire population of children. |
| 12:26.50 | rtharper | I'm pretty sure sample size =p |
| 12:27.26 | foxlit | but that's assuming everyone is equally lazy on average. |
| 12:27.32 | rtharper | It's a bit of a pedagogical problem, though. Phonics has only limited applicatoin in English, and the situation is worse than Danish |
| 12:27.39 | rtharper | in Danish* |
| 12:27.45 | Myridin | are we talking about being layz |
| 12:27.48 | Myridin | lazy* |
| 12:28.06 | rtharper | I assume foxlit means programming language semantics |
| 12:28.11 | rtharper | is all lazy all the time in that case |
| 12:28.27 | zenzio | phonics, is that like which word in a sentence you put pressure on and similar? |
| 12:28.56 | rtharper | zenzio: that's the pedagogical technique of teaching children to sound out words, small ones at first, and then putting them together to form larger ones |
| 12:29.01 | zenzio | I see |
| 12:29.22 | Humbedooh | kold-skåls-vejr! |
| 12:29.26 | zenzio | cause I'm often surprised at how English speakers seem to put emphasis on a different word than I would, and I'm guessing that's to do with cultural/language difference |
| 12:29.28 | rtharper | it only works if your written language has some regular correspondence to the spoken one ;) |
| 12:30.04 | rtharper | zenzio: the rules are sentence stress are more..rigid...in Norwegian and Swedish, for example |
| 12:30.28 | rtharper | and also what is considered "stress" changes cross-linguistically |
| 12:30.38 | rtharper | the concept of stress coincides with length, loudness, and pitch in English |
| 12:30.39 | zenzio | sounds reasonable |
| 12:30.45 | Humbedooh | at least our Ks doesn't become SJ :| |
| 12:30.52 | Humbedooh | don't* |
| 12:30.56 | rtharper | haha |
| 12:31.12 | rtharper | or g's become j's |
| 12:31.25 | rtharper | when I first heard gør in Danish, I was like...wut? |
| 12:31.40 | Humbedooh | they can become sj tho' :| |
| 12:31.49 | rtharper | hahah |
| 12:32.02 | Humbedooh | but that's the Frenchies' fault |
| 12:32.04 | rtharper | stj, sk, sj, skj, sch |
| 12:32.12 | zenzio | it always sounds wrong to me when people say things like "pre-sentation" (where the "pre" has different/stronger stress than the rest of the word) |
| 12:32.38 | rtharper | zenzio: but -tion is never stressed in words from French in English, heh |
| 12:33.00 | Humbedooh | hates how the military pronounces Danish words - always stressing the wrong part of the words >_> |
| 12:33.07 | rtharper | really? |
| 12:33.09 | rtharper | just the military? |
| 12:33.13 | Humbedooh | yeah |
| 12:33.22 | zenzio | that might be rtharper, but a "flat" presentation sounds more natural to me |
| 12:33.32 | rtharper | gosh that takes a long time to say |
| 12:33.33 | A-KO | zenzio: That's more dialect difference than anything |
| 12:33.45 | Humbedooh | materiale becomes materiel, efterretning becomes efterretning and so forth |
| 12:33.55 | rtharper | ah |
| 12:33.58 | rtharper | of course |
| 12:33.59 | rtharper | =p |
| 12:33.59 | Humbedooh | database becomes database :\ |
| 12:34.21 | rtharper | A-KO: the middle vowel will always be reduced, though |
| 12:34.24 | A-KO | zenzio: what's funny is, the word "report" is confusing to my Dutch friends whom continually use "rapport" when trying to type it; because of the way we pronounce it here. |
| 12:34.26 | zenzio | military pronunciation eh? Don't get me started on "colonel" |
| 12:34.38 | rtharper | haha |
| 12:34.51 | Humbedooh | oberst! |
| 12:35.01 | rtharper | that's one that you are almost guaranteed to get wrong as a child |
| 12:35.06 | rtharper | since it makes no sense |
| 12:36.07 | Humbedooh | hey mikma, I accidentally saw Iron Sky the other day....I have now lost all faith in Finnish film making :( |
| 12:36.26 | rtharper | zenzio: if you "flatten" the stress on presentation, it sounds like you are trying to stress it as preSENtation |
| 12:36.30 | rtharper | since that is typically reduced |
| 12:36.31 | rtharper | heh |
| 12:37.04 | zenzio | rtharper: that's a good point |
| 12:37.21 | rtharper | must sound like a freak to anyone near his office right now. |
| 12:37.35 | Humbedooh | rtharper, don't worry, they're used to it by now ;) |
| 12:37.39 | rtharper | haha |
| 12:37.58 | Humbedooh | I hear there's a new Oreo on the market! |
| 12:38.03 | Humbedooh | must buy, looks fancy |
| 12:39.33 | rtharper | the rainbow-fabulous? |
| 12:40.19 | Humbedooh | six layers of creamy goodness |
| 12:40.28 | rtharper | ps have nay of you used ErlLua for anything? |
| 12:41.22 | zenzio | rtharper: how come, are you reading things out loud? |
| 12:41.33 | rtharper | zenzio: I was muttering "presentation" in different ways |
| 12:41.39 | rtharper | to test your hypothesis |
| 12:41.41 | zenzio | haha :) |
| 12:42.51 | rtharper | I assume presentasjon has stress on the last syllable, btw? |
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| 12:43.14 | zenzio | in which language? |
| 12:43.15 | Humbedooh | yarr |
| 12:43.20 | rtharper | Norwegian |
| 12:43.24 | zenzio | yes, it does |
| 12:43.27 | rtharper | the only language to spell it that way =p |
| 12:43.40 | Humbedooh | the only sensible language |
| 12:43.46 | zenzio | man, don't write my language in the middle of an English sentence |
| 12:43.50 | zenzio | I don't pick up on it :-| |
| 12:43.51 | rtharper | haha |
| 12:43.53 | rtharper | npnp =) |
| 12:43.59 | zenzio | hey peppy |
| 12:44.03 | rtharper | Humbedooh: orly? =p |
| 12:44.21 | Humbedooh | rtharper, well when it comes to adopting new ways of spelling, yes, I think so :) |
| 12:44.27 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, zenzio-dear. |
| 12:44.29 | rtharper | my favourite exampel of Norwegian orthography is eksplosjon |
| 12:44.35 | Humbedooh | bæby! |
| 12:44.39 | rtharper | heh |
| 12:44.43 | rtharper | or lunsj |
| 12:44.53 | Humbedooh | kviklunsj <3 |
| 12:44.56 | rtharper | haha |
| 12:44.59 | zenzio | how so? |
| 12:45.01 | Humbedooh | y I no have more of those :\ |
| 12:45.27 | rtharper | zenzio: because it's so obviously a loanword, but completely Norwegianized |
| 12:45.31 | zenzio | I'm always intrigued to hear how others view Norwegian. Got an aussie friend who's taken a liking to the language, she has some interesting things to point out occasionally |
| 12:45.38 | rtharper | and when you are used to seeing Swedish |
| 12:45.42 | rtharper | it looks rather child-like |
| 12:45.46 | rtharper | even though, as Humbedooh says, I think it's rather sensible |
| 12:45.50 | rtharper | likes Norwegian very much. |
| 12:46.03 | rtharper | I like the descriptive view taken by Nynorsk |
| 12:46.04 | Humbedooh | norwegians are hotter than swedes anyway |
| 12:46.17 | zenzio | rtharper: we have a fwe others like that, although sometimes slightly changed in pronunciation... "wire" => "vaier", "tape" => "teip" |
| 12:46.19 | mikma | depends how gay you are |
| 12:46.28 | rtharper | zenzio: Icelandic is also 100% that way |
| 12:46.30 | rtharper | pítsa |
| 12:46.38 | Humbedooh | mikma, super gay ofc |
| 12:46.42 | rtharper | are you gay, Humbedooh? |
| 12:46.45 | mikma | oh, then swedish are hotter |
| 12:47.05 | Humbedooh | rtharper, did I forget to mention that my kinky finnish ex was a he? :) |
| 12:47.09 | rtharper | yes |
| 12:47.12 | rtharper | excellent |
| 12:47.27 | rtharper | we always need maor gay |
| 12:47.35 | rtharper | moar* |
| 12:47.37 | Humbedooh | maori |
| 12:47.44 | mikma | well then choose more tekkub |
| 12:47.58 | rtharper | zenzio: I also like that people speak whatever dialect they want on TV |
| 12:48.06 | rtharper | zenzio: and that people are quite used to hearing lots of different ways of speaking |
| 12:48.10 | Humbedooh | rtharper, I assume you read the article from maddog already? :3 |
| 12:48.17 | rtharper | Humbedooh: aye =) |
| 12:48.18 | Humbedooh | ofc you did |
| 12:48.24 | zenzio | rtharper: I do find that amusing sometimes |
| 12:48.46 | rtharper | zenzio: people how speak with three genders in Sweden are thought of as country bumpkins =p |
| 12:48.50 | rtharper | who* |
| 12:49.06 | Humbedooh | hen? :\ |
| 12:49.10 | rtharper | Humbedooh: no, as in |
| 12:49.12 | zenzio | rtharper: I've been working in Oslo for a while, normally live in Kristiansand... at home I don't find it weird at all to hear Oslo-dialects, but in Oslo I find it so unusual to hear Kristiansand-dialect |
| 12:49.15 | rtharper | masc fem neuter |
| 12:49.41 | rtharper | pokje > pojken, but flicka (often flicke in dialect) -> flicka |
| 12:49.54 | rtharper | bok -> boka |
| 12:49.56 | Adys | MoP giveaways? |
| 12:49.59 | Adys | really? |
| 12:49.59 | Humbedooh | ah, well we have "common gender" and no-gender in Danish |
| 12:50.04 | Humbedooh | no masc or fem |
| 12:50.05 | Adys | isnt *everyone* in the beta by now? |
| 12:50.05 | rtharper | Humbedooh: aye, rikssvenska is the same way |
| 12:50.15 | rtharper | except in dialects that are rather considered rural/uneducated |
| 12:50.18 | Antze | so, four genders? |
| 12:50.25 | Humbedooh | but we bloody well don't use "hen" anywhere, thank god :p |
| 12:50.32 | rtharper | lol hen should die |
| 12:50.38 | rtharper | you won't catch me using it ;) |
| 12:50.42 | Humbedooh | \o/ |
| 12:51.06 | Lopeppeppy | Gonna guess that's not "female chicken" |
| 12:51.21 | Humbedooh | Lopeppeppy, no, it's a contraction of him and her |
| 12:51.23 | rtharper | Lopeppeppy: it's the swedish equivalent of "zhe" |
| 12:51.36 | rtharper | han - he, hon - she, hen - zhe |
| 12:51.46 | rtharper | den/det - it |
| 12:51.57 | Antze | so, four genders |
| 12:51.59 | Antze | sweet |
| 12:52.08 | rtharper | Antze: lol grammatically there are only two genders |
| 12:52.16 | rtharper | han and hon are only for things that have biological sex |
| 12:52.33 | rtharper | han/hon/den are all "common" gender |
| 12:52.47 | Lopeppeppy | Oiy. Preserve me from the new gender pronouns. I understand where the ideas come from but... *shudder* |
| 12:52.54 | Antze | "I assume we'll have to support 12 conflicting standards!" - "no way! let's invent one single unified standard" - "alright, I assume we'll have to support 13 conflicting standards..." |
| 12:52.55 | rtharper | Lopeppeppy: I agree |
| 12:53.26 | zenzio | I find it funny how different languages are... like the English "I am, you are, he she and it is, we are, they are" => "jeg er, du er, han hun den/det er, vi er, de er" |
| 12:53.34 | rtharper | hahah |
| 12:53.45 | rtharper | yes |
| 12:53.49 | Antze | "er"... |
| 12:53.59 | rtharper | that's why Norwegian and Swedish (and Danish) are really easy to learn, grammatically |
| 12:54.00 | Antze | in Russian, there's nothing in its place :P |
| 12:54.03 | Lopeppeppy | I always feel so unprogressive, unsupportive, and backward that I can't embrace the new pronouns that my rainbow friends are so enthusiastic about. *sigh* |
| 12:54.18 | rtharper | Lopeppeppy: I am told I am just a man with too much white privilege to understand |
| 12:54.50 | zenzio | hehe |
| 12:55.15 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm. Guess that ramps up my privilege level a few notches then. :) |
| 12:55.16 | rtharper | but, as someone brought up, there is only ONE gender in Finnish, and that doesn't make their language or their society inherently more equal =p |
| 12:55.21 | Humbedooh | does white privilege even count in Scandinavia? I doubt it |
| 12:55.33 | rtharper | Humbedooh: ask an immigrant =p |
| 12:55.56 | rtharper | (by immigrant I mean the SD/DF definition) |
| 12:55.57 | rtharper | =p |
| 12:56.10 | Humbedooh | SD is far nicer than DF :p |
| 12:56.17 | zenzio | SD/DF? |
| 12:56.27 | Humbedooh | Sverigedemokraterne / Dansk Folkeparti |
| 12:56.27 | rtharper | Sverigesdemokraterna |
| 12:56.31 | rtharper | yeah |
| 12:56.31 | rtharper | =) |
| 12:56.40 | zenzio | oh, I see... I read that as something-something/dumbf... |
| 12:56.49 | rtharper | Humbedooh: only because no one talk to them =p |
| 12:57.20 | rtharper | though I was glad to see they closed down the Ministry of Integration in Denmark, now, which sounded too effing ominous |
| 12:57.39 | Humbedooh | that piece of crap was just....inefficient in lack of a better word |
| 12:58.20 | rtharper | haha |
| 12:58.29 | rtharper | Migrationsverket have been super nice to me and jnwhiteh <3 |
| 12:58.39 | zenzio | :) |
| 12:58.45 | rtharper | (they part of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, which seems an odd place to have it, actually) |
| 12:59.19 | Humbedooh | rtharper, I'm sure the ministry of integrarion would've been nice to you too, since you're the kind of people they want (to be blunt) |
| 12:59.30 | Humbedooh | integration* |
| 12:59.44 | rtharper | Humbedooh: yeah probs. Actually the only reason we crossed Denmark off the list was the prohibition against dual citizenship |
| 12:59.55 | rtharper | the Green Card program would have made it really easy to come to Denmark |
| 13:00.06 | zenzio | they have a prohibition against that? |
| 13:00.08 | Humbedooh | rtharper, well you can come get married in a Danish church then :p |
| 13:00.21 | rtharper | zenzio: aye, as does Norway |
| 13:00.27 | rtharper | for people who naturalise |
| 13:00.34 | zenzio | really? That sounds silly |
| 13:00.36 | Humbedooh | zenzio, yeah, but you can get around it if you go about it in reverse |
| 13:00.40 | rtharper | aye |
| 13:00.47 | rtharper | well, not in Norway, at least |
| 13:01.00 | rtharper | the only wya to be a dual citizen in norway is to acquire citizenship involuntarily |
| 13:01.04 | rtharper | through birth or, sometimes, marriage |
| 13:01.18 | Humbedooh | I know a few Danish people with dual citizenship, but I think they got the Danish first and then the other later on |
| 13:01.48 | rtharper | they don't mess around either, they don't just make you take an oath, they ask for a certificate of renunciation from the other country before they'll give you proof of citizneship |
| 13:02.09 | Humbedooh | and they vote on it in parliament and stuff! |
| 13:02.13 | zenzio | O_o |
| 13:02.16 | Humbedooh | and DF always votes no to them all :D |
| 13:02.22 | Humbedooh | just because... |
| 13:02.46 | zenzio | I'm not questioning that it is like that, but I've never heard about it before... interesting |
| 13:02.46 | rtharper | ha |
| 13:03.07 | rtharper | zenzio: Well, it's not a massive issue, really. Some people have even asked why Permanent Residence isn't enough |
| 13:03.24 | rtharper | but 1) the inability to move to another EEA country and 2) the inability vote are rather important to me |
| 13:03.33 | rtharper | if I'm going to properly take up ersidence somewhere |
| 13:04.25 | zenzio | yeah, I can see the reason in that |
| 13:04.54 | rtharper | the former being that I don't plan to, but I don't want to maybe need to move away for a few years (maybe for a sick family member?) and then have to start all over again if I want to come back |
| 13:05.14 | Antze | >> the only wya to be a dual citizen in norway is to acquire citizenship involuntarily // through birth or, sometimes, marriage |
| 13:05.14 | Antze | I like the view of marriage as something involuntary |
| 13:05.21 | rtharper | hahahah |
| 13:05.38 | rtharper | Antze: it's rather outdated, but the convention used to be a woman who married a foreigner gaind his citizenship |
| 13:05.43 | rtharper | at the cost of her original, actually |
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| 13:05.55 | rtharper | and then some countries stopped taking it away if she acquired the other through marriage |
| 13:06.29 | Myridin | Ah, nice, a thunderstorm |
| 13:06.36 | Antze | well... there's actually a country which citizenship you can't rid of |
| 13:06.45 | rtharper | Which is it? |
| 13:06.50 | Antze | Kazakhstan |
| 13:07.11 | Antze | so most of the countries recognize this fact, and allow you dual citizenship if you get theirs |
| 13:07.17 | Antze | at least, Germany allows |
| 13:07.25 | Antze | the only exception, as far as I remember |
| 13:07.29 | Antze | for Germany |
| 13:07.35 | rtharper | ah |
| 13:07.42 | zenzio | I would have thought the international convention of human rights, or whatever the name is, would consider renouncing your citizenship to be a right |
| 13:07.56 | rtharper | wouldn't mind renouncing his US citizenship |
| 13:07.58 | rtharper | tax-mongering whores |
| 13:08.10 | zenzio | heh |
| 13:08.57 | rtharper | I might do so one day |
| 13:09.03 | Kraps | why do you hate freedom rtharper |
| 13:09.10 | rtharper | Because it's expensive |
| 13:09.18 | rtharper | and requires a lot of paperwork |
| 13:09.34 | Antze | I'm not a lawyer, but I guess there's a way to get rid of your rights and obligations for Kazakhstan (I assume noone there cares about forcing you to keep them) |
| 13:09.35 | rtharper | and it's expensive to get someone qualified to file the paperwork =p |
| 13:09.53 | Antze | and also I doubt Kazakhstan pays too much attention to international conventions of human... whatever was it |
| 13:10.45 | Myridin | Universal Declaration of Human Rights |
| 13:10.52 | Myridin | That's the one. |
| 13:10.55 | zenzio | ah, cheers |
| 13:11.10 | rtharper | There were between 222-235 renunciants in 2008, between 731-743 in 2009, and about 1485 in 2010;[20][21] In 2011, there were 1781 renunciants.[22] |
| 13:11.11 | zenzio | I sometimes find myself knowing the Norwegian name, but being unable to come up with the English one |
| 13:11.12 | Myridin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human_Rights |
| 13:11.14 | rtharper | That's a trend =p |
| 13:11.24 | Kraps | get out of are country |
| 13:12.01 | Antze | like I said, no Kazakhstan on the list |
| 13:12.13 | Myridin | if I want to start all over with my UI btw, should I just delete the WTF folder so everything resets? |
| 13:12.58 | rtharper | also, there's this classy requirement: Effective June 2008, U.S. citizens who renounce their citizenship are subject under certain circumstances to an expatriation tax, which is meant to extract from the expatriate taxes that would have been paid had he remained a citizen: all property of a covered expatriate is deemed sold for its fair market value on the day before the expatriation date, which usually results in a capital gain, whi |
| 13:12.58 | rtharper | ch is taxable income. |
| 13:13.21 | zenzio | ... |
| 13:13.28 | rtharper | YEAH =p |
| 13:13.41 | Myridin | o.O |
| 13:13.59 | rtharper | One might call the US "clingy" |
| 13:14.25 | Myridin | or greedy |
| 13:14.50 | Lopeppeppy | Or schtoopid |
| 13:14.51 | Antze | I imagine them sending assassins after you |
| 13:15.00 | Myridin | stan smith will hunt you down |
| 13:15.15 | zenzio | rtharper: do you find people of your own nationality think the rest of the world doesn't speak English? Had some aussie friends here this summer who overheard some (older) American women saying among themselves "we can say anything we want and no-one will understand" (apparently they didn't even think of other American tourists) |
| 13:15.28 | rtharper | zenzio: no, just the opposite, actually |
| 13:15.42 | zenzio | that's good then |
| 13:15.45 | rtharper | ha |
| 13:15.53 | rtharper | except it keeps the US x monolingual x |
| 13:15.55 | Myridin | too bad the international language can't be dutch |
| 13:16.10 | Antze | Myridin: why? |
| 13:16.22 | Myridin | now I'm forced to speak English :p |
| 13:16.23 | Antze | zenzio: where did that happen? |
| 13:16.34 | zenzio | rtharper: I do hear English-speaking people say that. Said aussie friend keeps lamenting how they don't even learn a second language, while people here commonly learn three (to some degree) |
| 13:16.45 | rtharper | yeah |
| 13:16.48 | Antze | lazy - English isn't the worst option |
| 13:16.52 | Antze | imagine it would be Chinese |
| 13:16.54 | Myridin | where is here zenzio, in middle school you get french german and english |
| 13:16.55 | zenzio | Antze: at a museum, Vikingskipmuseet if you're familiar with it |
| 13:17.06 | rtharper | learning another language as an English speakers is hard, though, because you are pretty much *never* forced ot use another language |
| 13:17.06 | zenzio | Myridin: Norway |
| 13:17.09 | Antze | nah I just asked about the country, thanks :) |
| 13:17.16 | rtharper | everyone is spoon-fed to us in English |
| 13:17.19 | zenzio | Myridin: and it's just the same, German and French |
| 13:17.23 | rtharper | you have to be really driven to get out and use another language |
| 13:17.25 | rtharper | and few are |
| 13:17.42 | rtharper | given that, as you know, the first few years of using it are often painful/embarrassing/inefficient |
| 13:17.52 | zenzio | yeah |
| 13:18.10 | zenzio | that's another reason to start teaching a second language at a young age |
| 13:18.15 | rtharper | oh I agree |
| 13:18.30 | rtharper | also, if you combine teaching a language with a lot of exposure to TV/films/pop music |
| 13:18.31 | Myridin | yeah |
| 13:18.35 | rtharper | it tends to get you pretty far |
| 13:18.42 | zenzio | yeah |
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| 13:18.47 | Myridin | It's how I learned english at age 8, spent too much time at the N64 >., |
| 13:18.50 | rtharper | almost every European person I know who speaks really really good English |
| 13:19.04 | rtharper | said they owed a lot of their fluency and vocab to TV/Film/Music |
| 13:19.05 | Antze | zenzio: then that was strange, because as far as I know, Scandinavia is the place where many, many people are able to understand English compared to other European countries for example |
| 13:19.08 | Myridin | Although Ocarina of Time didn´t make much sense at age 6 :p |
| 13:19.17 | zenzio | only thing that annoys me about that rtharper is that my pronunciations are basically American, due to TV/games/music, while I would have liked a (more) British one |
| 13:19.25 | rtharper | zenzio: LOL you and everyone else |
| 13:19.27 | rtharper | why is that? |
| 13:19.43 | zenzio | I think we identify more with Brits than Americans |
| 13:19.47 | rtharper | hehe |
| 13:19.51 | zenzio | not in everything |
| 13:19.54 | zenzio | but take humor |
| 13:19.56 | Myridin | I wouldn't mind a chav accent tbh |
| 13:20.01 | rtharper | but I mean, I feel this is a bit like saying |
| 13:20.04 | zenzio | British humor generally is much closer to our own than American is |
| 13:20.18 | rtharper | "I unfortunately have an Oslo accent as a learner, I wish I had a Bergen accent instead" |
| 13:20.28 | zenzio | people do say that though |
| 13:20.31 | rtharper | haha |
| 13:20.32 | rtharper | I know |
| 13:20.38 | rtharper | and it seems a bit funny to me |
| 13:20.39 | Antze | I've yet to know what *my* accent sounds like... |
| 13:20.41 | zenzio | also, I'm not saying it makes sense really |
| 13:20.51 | rtharper | personally I would never learn bokmål/standard østnorsk |
| 13:20.57 | rtharper | zenzio: nah, it's just funny is all |
| 13:21.48 | zenzio | what amuses me is how I speak sørlandsk (mostly, but not 100% since my dad is not from there), but I write basically riksmål |
| 13:22.06 | rtharper | heh |
| 13:22.13 | zenzio | where a lot of the gender stuff gets turned into male |
| 13:24.46 | rtharper | aye, there are essentially two genders in riksmål now, aren't there? |
| 13:25.00 | Myridin | stop talking about stuff I find interesting, I've yet to do anything about my UI today |
| 13:25.15 | zenzio | I'm not really familiar with the "rules", but I do believe riksmål only deals with male and neutral |
| 13:25.55 | rtharper | is also being rather unproductive =p |
| 13:26.39 | Myridin | haha |
| 13:26.50 | Myridin | Thinking of going really minimalistic, central box design |
| 13:27.03 | Myridin | Although I fucking suck so it's gonna end up looking like an unsolved rubix cuvw |
| 13:27.05 | Myridin | cube* |
| 13:27.07 | zenzio | one thing I find really funny between languages is expressions, that often just cannot be translated |
| 13:27.19 | zenzio | cat in the/a bag, sure |
| 13:27.30 | zenzio | "så sitter du der med skjegget i postkassen" |
| 13:27.52 | zenzio | I never managed to find any similar expression in English |
| 13:28.05 | rtharper | skjegget? |
| 13:28.18 | zenzio | the (in this case your) beard |
| 13:28.23 | rtharper | ah |
| 13:28.24 | rtharper | heh |
| 13:28.28 | Myridin | postkassen is beard? |
| 13:28.33 | zenzio | no, skjegg is |
| 13:28.38 | zenzio | postkasse is mailbox |
| 13:28.38 | rtharper | postkassen is postbox =p |
| 13:28.45 | rtharper | the postbox* |
| 13:29.02 | Myridin | Ah |
| 13:29.14 | zenzio | Myridin: it's essentially, an completely without sense, "then you sit there with your beard in the postbox" |
| 13:29.17 | zenzio | *and |
| 13:29.25 | Myridin | I've done that a few times, yeah |
| 13:29.38 | rtharper | ah så sitter du med skägget brevlådan |
| 13:29.41 | zenzio | it doesn't really *make sense* in Norwegian either, but it's a normal expression that you know the meaning of |
| 13:29.45 | rtharper | i brevlådan* |
| 13:30.21 | zenzio | or "ugler i mosen", which is said to have been a misunderstanding of a Danish expression |
| 13:30.33 | mikma | rtharper: http://helsinkipride.fi/index.php?id=29 |
| 13:30.45 | rtharper | ooh |
| 13:30.51 | rtharper | we'll have to go next year ;) |
| 13:31.11 | mikma | "It is held every year on the last week of June and is with its over 19 000 visitors also one the biggest week-long events in Helsinki." |
| 13:31.14 | zenzio | English also has some weird expressions that I can't successfully translate to Norwegian, though I don't remember them right now |
| 13:31.15 | mikma | so remember that |
| 13:31.27 | rtharper | =) |
| 13:32.10 | Myridin | Helsinki is nice, went there this christmas vacation when my friends and I went to Talinn for a week |
| 13:35.18 | Myridin | yay killed the chat |
| 13:35.43 | Antze | *scratches his head* so what does it mean to sit with one's beard in the postbox? |
| 13:36.12 | Myridin | that you drank too much the night before |
| 13:36.48 | Antze | with one's face in the salad... no, wait, it refers to the night itself |
| 13:37.17 | Myridin | man, I totally bearded in the postbox last night, what happened |
| 13:37.20 | Myridin | something like that |
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| 13:39.56 | Humbedooh | zenzio, I live near uglemosen! |
| 13:40.01 | Myridin | well, at least I'm logged in to wow now, that's a start. |
| 13:40.04 | Lopeppeppy | English has some very, very odd sayings. |
| 13:40.26 | Myridin | do you have the one where you can't look a gift horse in the mouth, or is that dutch only |
| 13:40.40 | Lopeppeppy | Nope, English too. |
| 13:40.45 | Antze | and Russian |
| 13:41.04 | Myridin | even if a monkey wears a golden ring, it remains an ugly thing |
| 13:41.08 | Myridin | that's my favourite |
| 13:41.49 | Lopeppeppy | Can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear < a decent equivalent |
| 13:42.35 | Myridin | pretty much means the same |
| 13:42.37 | Myridin | I figure |
| 13:43.40 | Myridin | great, now I find myself looking at expressions and sayings, forgot what I was doing |
| 13:43.47 | Humbedooh | don't sell the fur before the bear is shot ;o |
| 13:44.10 | Myridin | we have that one |
| 13:45.03 | Myridin | AH, great, sun is shining again, time to relocate to the balcony |
| 13:45.08 | Humbedooh | ye well people always mix up Danish and Dutch, so go figure ;> |
| 13:45.09 | Antze | "don't divide the fur" in our version |
| 13:45.24 | Humbedooh | says the guy with the Dutch name :3 |
| 13:45.37 | Myridin | aweosme. |
| 13:45.42 | Myridin | still have wifi range here |
| 13:47.45 | Lopeppeppy | Don't count your chickens before they hatch. |
| 13:48.02 | Myridin | Does that mean you can't draw conclusions until something is done? |
| 13:48.08 | Antze | don't shout "hey" before you jump |
| 13:48.23 | Lopeppeppy | Don't count on something that you cannot be certain of. |
| 13:48.32 | Lopeppeppy | Not every egg hatches, after all. |
| 13:49.01 | Myridin | In my defence, it's been 4 years since middle school, my English is starting to get rusty :p |
| 13:49.44 | Antze | and in response to the above: "no matter how you dress a pig in garments, it will be a pig" |
| 13:49.57 | Antze | finally recalled it |
| 13:50.37 | Myridin | Time to annoy my neighbours with some Metal |
| 13:50.53 | Myridin | today's selection consists of soilwork in flames and scar symmetry |
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| 13:55.36 | Myridin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhbhnftKRgU <333 |
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| 13:59.03 | Myridin | amazing how I remember these lyrics from years ago but barely remember my own pin number |
| 14:00.29 | Antze | I found myself remembering my phone number from 20 years ago |
| 14:00.44 | Antze | but not my pin ;) |
| 14:00.46 | Myridin | LOL |
| 14:00.57 | Myridin | I don't remember anything from 20 years ago |
| 14:01.01 | Myridin | then again, I was 2 |
| 14:01.33 | Antze | you should remember at least something from 19 years ago then, or maybe 18? |
| 14:02.39 | Myridin | I remember my first day in school |
| 14:02.46 | Myridin | cause I was scared shitless lol |
| 14:03.21 | Fisker | hey rtharper |
| 14:06.03 | Myridin | going back to a related UI question(shocker :p), if I want my UI to be a centre box, rather than 2 panels in bottom left and right corner, aesthetically speaking, where would the damage meter fit most |
| 14:07.54 | Antze | are you planning to cover your character model with your UI? |
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| 14:08.59 | Myridin | no, it's just below it |
| 14:09.25 | Myridin | I'm currently rocking the best trans of the server ;), wouldn't want to hide it by my UI :D |
| 14:10.29 | Antze | well, for me the damage meter fits being hidden |
| 14:10.47 | Antze | I rarely need it ready at hand |
| 14:11.03 | Myridin | btw, if I want to change the blizzard fonts, in the folder, do I delete the old ARIALN/skurri/FRIZQ etc etc, or do I just rename the copied ones to those? |
| 14:11.38 | Antze | you can't rename the copied ones to "those" without losing the data in "those" |
| 14:11.59 | Antze | I would consider backing them up |
| 14:12.12 | Myridin | fair enough |
| 14:12.21 | Myridin | i've stored them on the desktop, let's see if this works. |
| 14:13.13 | Myridin | trying to use the expressway font, I like that one a lot |
| 14:13.53 | rtharper | hiya fisker |
| 14:13.59 | rtharper | Fisker: are you gay too? |
| 14:14.34 | Fisker | super gay rtharper |
| 14:14.50 | rtharper | brilliant |
| 14:16.30 | Myridin | wait, what |
| 14:17.05 | Myridin | now I just need to get these fonts into the addons, could I just keep another copy with the exprsfrway name and store that in the font folder? |
| 14:18.26 | Myridin | trying to add it to chatter |
| 14:21.21 | Myridin | nevermind that, when I select Arial Narrow, it links to the expressway font of course |
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| 14:26.44 | Myridin | wonder if it works if I change it in aurora, that'd be sweet. |
| 14:27.36 | cogwheel | exit |
| 14:27.38 | cogwheel | mt >< |
| 14:27.50 | Antze | :wq |
| 14:28.46 | mckenziemc1 | ! |
| 14:29.21 | Myridin | ah, no option to change the font size in aurora |
| 14:29.22 | Myridin | too bad |
| 14:31.32 | Stanzilla | is it monolog time again? |
| 14:36.42 | Myridin | why yes it is |
| 14:36.48 | Myridin | somebody's gotta be that guy |
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| 15:00.49 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 15:00.51 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 15:00.53 | Fisker | not so hey mckenziemc |
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| 15:08.53 | Myridin | oh hey unkle didnt see you logging in |
| 15:09.02 | Unkle | Because I was sneaky. |
| 15:09.43 | Myridin | why |
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| 15:11.05 | Unkle | Because I just got to work, I'm not all here yet, and I had to walk through 100 degrees farenhiet heat with 85% relative humidity and I'm in a pisspoor mood as a result. |
| 15:11.09 | Unkle | So I was sneaky. |
| 15:11.16 | Myridin | i'm sorry for intruding then |
| 15:11.33 | Unkle | You're not intruding. |
| 15:14.07 | cogwheel | loltexas imo |
| 15:14.51 | Unkle | hey, the taxes are low and there are jobs. Also, I can carry a gun. |
| 15:15.06 | foxlit | to campus? |
| 15:15.25 | Myridin | can't you carry a gun everywhere according to the second amendment? or does that only apply to having one in the house in case of burglary/trespassing |
| 15:15.36 | Unkle | Actually, I can carry one TO campus but there are people who take a dim view of it leaving my car. |
| 15:16.09 | foxlit | s/to/on would probably have been more to the point. |
| 15:16.38 | Unkle | Myridin: The 2nd Amendment is very broad, but states can have their own restrictions about where you can carry guns openly or concealed. Schools and places serving liquor are usually restricted. |
| 15:16.47 | Myridin | fair enough |
| 15:17.11 | cogwheel | Schools serving liquor, doubly so |
| 15:17.18 | Unkle | Also, I don't have a concealed carry permit (yet) so my carry has to be pretty open. |
| 15:17.37 | Unkle | which makes some people understandably nervous. |
| 15:17.47 | TMc51 | open carry is a decent deterent |
| 15:18.16 | Unkle | Yeah, my current gun isn't a convienet carry weapon because it's a long-barrel. |
| 15:18.30 | Myridin | Here in the Netherlands you have to be a member of a certified gunclub for X number of years to be allowed to have a weapon |
| 15:18.39 | Myridin | and that only counts for your own home |
| 15:18.48 | foxlit | ^ sensible gun policy right there. |
| 15:18.51 | TMc51 | May not be convenient at all, but I'm sure the site of it is enough to keep most would be assailants from starting any trouble. |
| 15:19.02 | Unkle | Yeah, that's why I don't live in the Netherlands. |
| 15:19.33 | cogwheel | no, that's 'cause you weren't born there. I'm sure if you were, and grew up there, you'd think the US gun policy was nuts |
| 15:19.37 | cogwheel | :P |
| 15:19.40 | Unkle | I'm a pretty firm believer in an armed citizenry. I know not everyone is, and that's fine if you don't want to be armed. |
| 15:19.46 | Myridin | I don't think it's nuts, it's just too casual |
| 15:20.01 | Unkle | cogwheel: I lived in Europe for several formative years. |
| 15:20.24 | cogwheel | but you're still a 'merican ;) |
| 15:20.26 | TMc51 | Myridin: You're damn right it is. Those casuals ruin everything, even guns. |
| 15:20.32 | Myridin | lol |
| 15:20.42 | Unkle | Yup. And I still think citizens should be armed if they chose. |
| 15:20.54 | Unkle | If they chose not to be, that's fine too. |
| 15:21.06 | Myridin | But it shouldn't be THIS easy to buy a gun tbh |
| 15:21.25 | Unkle | It's not as easy to buy a gun as all that. |
| 15:21.30 | Myridin | Armed citizenry is fine etc, but at least get some phychological screenins or some shit |
| 15:21.32 | Myridin | Do they have that |
| 15:21.32 | Unkle | First, guns are expensive. |
| 15:21.33 | foxlit | Unkle: I'd rather be unarmed in an environment where most people are unarmed, than in an environment when most people are armed. |
| 15:21.35 | TMc51 | buying most types of funs is fine being easy. |
| 15:21.56 | TMc51 | I'm still all for regulating Type III firearms and keeping them from the typical average ciytizen without proper permits. |
| 15:22.27 | Unkle | Second, every gun purchase - of the legal sort - requires a cursory criminal check. You lose the right to own weapons if you've commited certain types of crimes. |
| 15:23.00 | cogwheel | foxlit: until you find that all of the people who are armed are working against the interests of those who are unarmed... |
| 15:23.02 | TMc51 | Oh wow, not funs, guns. /facepalm |
| 15:23.03 | Unkle | I'm all for arming citizens with the kinds of guns their government is likely to use on them. :P |
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| 15:23.55 | TMc51 | I'm not against it either, for the most part. |
| 15:24.00 | foxlit | It's interesting that you can lose constitution-specified rights. |
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| 15:24.16 | Lopeppeppy | I want one of those awesome shotguns that has grenade rounds. |
| 15:24.21 | Unkle | the right has a "well regulated" phrase. |
| 15:24.39 | foxlit | cogwheel: I weigh the possibility of that versus the possibility of random aggression, and the latter always seems worse. |
| 15:25.01 | Unkle | which lots of groups try to use to break the "shall not be infringed" phrase. |
| 15:25.54 | foxlit | "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." |
| 15:26.14 | foxlit | reads like "because A, B" to me, but then again, I'm not a constitutional scholar. |
| 15:26.34 | Unkle | My central belief is that weapons belong in the hands of citizens who want them, and not just certain classes. Mao may have been a complete evil bastard, but he was right when he said "political power springs from the barrel of a gun." |
| 15:27.15 | Unkle | History is rife with instances where unarmed citizenry stops being a free state. |
| 15:27.51 | Unkle | Again though, I'm perfectly fine with people not wanting to have arms. Just as long as they can't take mine away. :) |
| 15:28.11 | cogwheel | and now i can't help but think of body dismorphic disorder |
| 15:28.33 | cogwheel | dysmorphic* |
| 15:28.44 | Unkle | haha. |
| 15:28.52 | foxlit | Unkle: that "perfectly fine" scenario is unstable. |
| 15:29.12 | foxlit | The argument would basically be that as long as you have a gun, everyone else should want a gun in case you're troublesome. |
| 15:29.19 | foxlit | Hence, guns for everyone! |
| 15:29.25 | Myridin | Fuck that |
| 15:30.06 | Myridin | I'm glad we don't have those gun laws here |
| 15:30.11 | Myridin | As they're not needed |
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| 15:31.24 | Unkle | foxlit: If you don't want one, or your neighbor doesn't want one, and prefers to rely on other to carry guns on their behalf, fine. I want one, I'm a citizen in a nation where I can have one, and I'm happy about it. |
| 15:32.00 | foxlit | How are your death-by-firearms statistics looking lately? :) |
| 15:32.17 | Unkle | Actually a lot smaller than the media would have you believe. |
| 15:33.46 | Unkle | http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states |
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| 15:33.59 | TMc51 | media will be all over a sinle shooting, but outright ignore the dozen or so fatal car crashes in that same day in the area. Note: not 100% accurate, but the point stands. |
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| 15:36.04 | Myridin | Laws are weird here though, you even need a license to keep a loaded medieval crossbow |
| 15:36.46 | Lopeppeppy | Loaded. Rawr. |
| 15:37.35 | foxlit | Unkle: so the rate of gun homicide per population is only only 6 times higher than canada, or 15 times higher than the netherlands. |
| 15:37.40 | foxlit | Not too bad, I suppose. |
| 15:40.03 | Industrial | guns dont kill people, people with guns kill people. people shouldnt have guns |
| 15:40.04 | Industrial | cause, you know, they will kill eachother. |
| 15:40.18 | Myridin | i'd rather do that over a videogame |
| 15:40.28 | foxlit | Not that I have a point; I'm happy that you're happy, and I'm happy the laws are different here. I'd just rather your laws didn't spread here :) |
| 15:41.16 | Myridin | weird tho that a country is so loose with guns while marijuhana is the devil's plant |
| 15:41.23 | Myridin | something's awry there |
| 15:42.16 | Krapsy | bunch of freedom-haters in here |
| 15:45.35 | Fisker | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 15:45.42 | Lopeppeppy | Hey, Fisker-boopsie |
| 15:46.04 | Myridin | okay.. |
| 15:47.53 | Industrial | freedom to smoke wtf i want hater! |
| 15:48.05 | Industrial | krapsy |
| 15:48.20 | Industrial | :) |
| 15:48.26 | Myridin | so you're dutch too then industrial |
| 15:48.32 | Industrial | yep |
| 15:48.36 | Myridin | aangenaam ;P |
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| 15:49.53 | Unkle | The devil's plant. Booze is the devil's drink, and sex is so disgusting that no one should do it. Ever. *wink* |
| 15:50.17 | durcyn | puritanism is a thing, Myridin |
| 15:50.28 | durcyn | first thing i'm doing when time travel is invented is sinking the mayflower |
| 15:50.58 | Myridin | hostory check, that's the boat that had the pilgrims on board to the USA right |
| 15:51.06 | Myridin | history* |
| 15:51.12 | Unkle | No, it's just the one that got good press. |
| 15:51.14 | Krapsy | thats a little extreme |
| 15:51.33 | Unkle | There were LOTS of people coming here on lots of boats from lots of places. |
| 15:51.51 | Unkle | For many, many reasons. |
| 15:52.05 | Unkle | The Puritans were just noisy about it. |
| 15:52.27 | Myridin | AH, yeah |
| 15:52.51 | Myridin | almost time to head out and pick up dinner, but it's started raining again |
| 15:52.51 | Myridin | bummer |
| 15:53.02 | Lopeppeppy | It was 90 miles to freedom but they took the risk, though the ocean was a'motion and the wind was brisk. The deadly gunboats never saw them in the pale moonlight. They were off to Cayo Hueso by the dawn's early light. |
| 15:54.02 | Krapsy | heh whats that from |
| 15:54.33 | Unkle | There were colonies here from pretty much everywhere in Europe though French, English, and some Spanish holdings got most of the press. |
| 15:55.50 | Krapsy | guess they got absorbed |
| 15:57.23 | Krapsy | they were the big guys too |
| 15:57.41 | Myridin | I once fantasized what it'd be like if ancient figures from history had twitter |
| 15:57.43 | Myridin | that'd be neat |
| 15:58.53 | Lopeppeppy | Krapsy, that's from a Jimmy Buffet song, "Everybody's got a cousin in Miami" |
| 15:59.34 | Myridin | o.0 |
| 15:59.49 | Unkle | I can imagine that a lot of French nobles would have told Franklin to "slow his roll" on their wives. |
| 16:01.00 | Lopeppeppy | Aw now, don't harsh on Frankie. |
| 16:01.27 | Krapsy | that would be like telling the sun to stop shining |
| 16:01.56 | Unkle | I respect and admire the man. I just know he was a serial womanizer and pretty good at talking the knicers off pretty girls. |
| 16:02.50 | Dagmar | Unkle: Actually, that's pretty much the reason he stopped being the US Diplomat to France. |
| 16:03.01 | Dagmar | Too many angry husbands. |
| 16:03.03 | Unkle | Exactly. |
| 16:03.21 | Stanzilla | http://stadt-bremerhaven.de/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/nexus_7_banner_001.png |
| 16:03.22 | Stanzilla | nom nom |
| 16:03.44 | Krapsy | interested to see how they portray him in AC3 |
| 16:04.00 | foxlit | Stanzilla: no sense of scale from that image :( |
| 16:04.13 | foxlit | I'm assuming it's a tablet, but how big is it actually? |
| 16:04.14 | Stanzilla | that huge border lookes like shit |
| 16:04.21 | Stanzilla | 7" |
| 16:04.42 | durcyn | it's a galaxy note! it's a xoom doesn'tsell! it's the google failure tablet! |
| 16:04.44 | foxlit | so more like an oversized phone? |
| 16:05.13 | Dagmar | More like a media buddy |
| 16:05.30 | Stanzilla | I wonder what this is though http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/27/3120921/mysterious-nexus-q-device-leaked-ahead-of-google-i-o |
| 16:05.35 | Dagmar | I have the Xoom. It's useful as a flashy desk ornament and news feed, but the 10.1" form factor makes it not so happy to carry around. |
| 16:05.51 | Dagmar | a 7" tablet, on the other hand, more neatly fits into the sleeve of my jacket |
| 16:05.59 | durcyn | Stanzilla: set top box if i had to guess |
| 16:07.16 | Stanzilla | or speakers |
| 16:07.47 | Dagmar | It's the Ogama Pleasure Sphere! |
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| 16:09.08 | durcyn | too many cables for just speakers |
| 16:09.55 | Stanzilla | looks like lan ports |
| 16:10.11 | Dagmar | Yeah, or maybe a USB hub, but I've *no* idea |
| 16:10.30 | Dagmar | Maybe it's a sphereoid projection surface |
| 16:10.57 | Dagmar | Four round connectors? Might be component video |
| 16:11.15 | Dagmar | Still, it looks like there's a USB connector below that, so I have no damn idea |
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| 16:13.43 | durcyn | media streamer, i'd put money on it |
| 16:13.58 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 16:14.19 | Stanzilla | durcyn: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/06/27/nexus-q-images-uncovered-its-a-streaming-media-player/ |
| 16:14.19 | Stanzilla | xD |
| 16:14.47 | durcyn | where's my money |
| 16:16.16 | foxlit | when that blue illumination turns red and it says "I can't let you stream that, Dave", run. |
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| 16:40.43 | foxlit | "You'll no longer receive resurrection email notifications." |
| 16:42.44 | Dagmar | Definitely an odd-looking little device |
| 16:43.23 | Myridin | back :D |
| 16:44.37 | Thunder_Child | Front |
| 16:45.04 | pompy | side |
| 16:45.46 | Myridin | .. |
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| 16:50.00 | Myridin | what's tonight's topic |
| 16:50.25 | Krapsy | "We have no plans to release PvP as paid DLC" wtf are diablo players on drugs or something that this would even come up |
| 16:50.55 | Myridin | Ah, Diablo 3, fince choice |
| 16:50.58 | Unkle | They didn't get PVP at ship, and so they think it'll come as a paid item later. |
| 16:51.11 | Thunder_Child | like many other compaines do |
| 16:51.14 | Myridin | I don't think I've played for 2 weeks now, barely miss it |
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| 16:55.15 | pompy | Stanzilla: http://www.facebook.com/NVIDIAGeForce/posts/349096835159966 |
| 16:55.51 | Stanzilla | thx, already got em :D |
| 16:58.00 | mikma | are those better than 304.48? |
| 16:58.25 | Dagmar | Is the telecine code fixed I wonder |
| 16:59.29 | Myridin | No new drivers for the 660M |
| 16:59.31 | Myridin | Too bad. |
| 17:00.44 | Unkle | Samsun 830 Series SSD (256 GB) for $250 on NewEgg today. Looks like a pretty sweet deal. |
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| 17:03.25 | mikma | does UK use DD/MM//YYYY or MM/DD/YYYY ? |
| 17:03.37 | pompy | the former |
| 17:03.49 | mikma | oh nice |
| 17:04.02 | mikma | that means my rasppi will be shipped next month then |
| 17:04.07 | pompy | http://www.digitalpoint.com/lists/59224.html |
| 17:05.00 | pompy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_notation_in_the_United_Kingdom heh |
| 17:05.38 | mikma | so, pretty much usa is the only place that uses mmddyyyy for some weird reason |
| 17:06.00 | Myridin | anyone know of an addon that completely hides the chat tabs? |
| 17:06.30 | pompy | i dont see how thats weird mikma! |
| 17:07.30 | mikma | pompy: well imagine this: rest of the world uses ddmmyyyy cause it's logical. like the same thing with meters.... |
| 17:11.47 | Myridin | ah, the footlong italian bmt, providing lazy students with dinner since forever |
| 17:12.20 | Lopeppeppy | Shepherd's pie. It multiplies in the pan as leftovers. True story. |
| 17:12.49 | Arrowmaster | cool somebody broke the AH, they put an item up for starting bid of 0g and no buyout, i cant bid on it becasue it tells me to buyout instead |
| 17:13.06 | mikma | hah |
| 17:13.53 | Myridin | in D3? |
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| 17:27.28 | Myridin | ugh, this ouF framework is doing my head in |
| 17:29.19 | Unkle | Damnit Wobin - I can't stop watching that .gif |
| 17:30.54 | Arrowmaster | is it just me or is the public game levels for nightmare a bit off, two characters now ive been too low of a level to join public games for the quest im on in act2 nightmare and i think im a bit too high level for the area |
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| 17:34.55 | haste | Myridin: not good! |
| 17:36.17 | foxlit | Hm, there doesn't seem to be a nice event notifying you that you've completed a quest with a particular ID |
| 17:36.20 | foxlit | That can't be right? |
| 17:39.04 | Adys | Dagmar: ping |
| 17:39.38 | Myridin | lol haste |
| 17:39.45 | Myridin | wait, you're the person who designed it |
| 17:39.48 | Myridin | *takes a bow* |
| 17:42.55 | Myridin | trying to get the target frame to not show buffs is something I can't find :D |
| 17:43.57 | pompy | foxlit: doesnt look like it but you maybe it can be done by reading the chat with whatever function where it says "{quest name} completed" |
| 17:43.58 | haste | like, not show buffs at all? |
| 17:44.37 | Myridin | yeah haste, i'm using dimglass' setup |
| 17:45.00 | foxlit | pompy: what I think I'm coming up with is that you can capture quest details on QUEST_COMPLETE, and watch for QUEST_FINISHED |
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| 17:45.12 | Myridin | but seeing I only do the occassional 5 man or 10 man, I don't really need to know if a target has BoK or BoM |
| 17:45.24 | foxlit | have to double check that QUEST_FINISHED doesn't fire if you back out of quest completetion |
| 17:46.01 | pompy | With the completed quest turned in, the questgiver presents additional text and offers rewards for the player to choose -- or merely accept, in the case of a single reward or no reward save for XP or money (presented via the QUEST_COMPLETE event) |
| 17:46.03 | pompy | hmm |
| 17:46.10 | pompy | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/QUEST_FINISHED |
| 17:47.25 | foxlit | nope, still fires. |
| 17:47.59 | haste | Myridin: dimglass has a helper function called createAuras, which it uses on the target frames |
| 17:48.42 | Myridin | located in the cfg? |
| 17:48.47 | haste | Myridin: you could probably just replace it with just createBuffs or remove the line, depending on what you want |
| 17:48.53 | haste | no core.lua |
| 17:49.22 | Myridin | Ah, okay |
| 17:49.25 | Myridin | Thanks a lot :) |
| 17:49.46 | pompy | foxlit: "This event fires when the player completes any of the above stages of dialog, before the event presenting the next stage fires, or when the player declines or aborts interaction with the questgiver." |
| 17:49.52 | pompy | ehh |
| 17:50.12 | foxlit | which means that there's no event that fires exclusively when you complete a quest. |
| 17:50.22 | pompy | pretty much |
| 17:50.26 | foxlit | matches what I'm /eventtrace'ing at the moment, too. |
| 17:51.32 | Myridin | ok haste, I deleted lib.createAuras(self) in the target section and that seemed to work :) you're the best |
| 17:53.09 | haste | \:D/ |
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| 17:54.01 | Stanzilla | haste is better than crit |
| 17:54.11 | Stanzilla | but sometimes mastery is better than haste |
| 17:54.58 | Myridin | It's starting to look like something now |
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| 18:02.30 | Myridin | Now I just need to find a good minimap and I'll be set for life |
| 18:02.59 | Seerah | *ahem* pocketplot *ahem* |
| 18:03.05 | Seerah | ooh, I should get that cough looked at.... |
| 18:03.24 | Unkle | pocketplot is luff |
| 18:03.58 | Myridin | I assume you made pocketplot seerah ;) |
| 18:04.18 | Seerah | >.> <.< :) |
| 18:04.22 | Myridin | Well what do you know |
| 18:04.23 | Myridin | :P |
| 18:04.30 | Myridin | Let's give it a whirl then ;) |
| 18:04.44 | Seerah | one of my many lovelies |
| 18:05.22 | Myridin | Wait, you did Shinybuffs? |
| 18:05.27 | Myridin | I used that all the time >.< |
| 18:06.22 | Seerah | :) |
| 18:06.58 | Myridin | Although I have to admit now that I found the Masque Skinner for the blizzard buffs, I switched |
| 18:07.05 | Myridin | *runs* |
| 18:08.27 | Seerah | hehe. ShinyBuffs *is* the blizzard buffs, but with some added features. Though I wouldn't use that Masque plugin with them |
| 18:08.42 | Unkle | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304058404577492760881761278.html $199 price point? Take that, Amazon. |
| 18:09.41 | Myridin | Currently toying with Pocketplot ^^ |
| 18:09.55 | Seerah | If you have questions, just ask :) |
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| 18:10.49 | Myridin | Well, all the options are there, it's already minimalist and all I need to do is move it and make the border dark purple |
| 18:11.07 | Myridin | I don't know much but I think I can manage that =P |
| 18:11.20 | Seerah | hehe. fair enough! |
| 18:12.06 | Lopeppeppy | Pocketgnomeplot! |
| 18:12.35 | Myridin | Then all I need to do after that is set up xCT/Skada and I'll be set hopefully |
| 18:13.43 | Myridin | Looking good :D |
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| 18:18.39 | Humbedooh | pocketgnome...wonder if anyone still uses that one :3 |
| 18:18.42 | Humbedooh | or if it works |
| 18:19.46 | Lopeppeppy | I work every day, thank you very much. |
| 18:19.48 | Lopeppeppy | Hmph. |
| 18:19.55 | Myridin | lol |
| 18:22.52 | Seerah | Humbedooh: I don't remember if I've seen comments about it lately or not |
| 18:26.16 | Myridin | Seerah, you've helped me before about a year ago, do you think you could spare a minute to look at my UI once it's completed? |
| 18:26.29 | Seerah | sure |
| 18:26.51 | Unkle | I'd be willing to bet that changes to pickUpInventoryItem broke pocket and closet gnome |
| 18:27.18 | Myridin | Thanks :) |
| 18:30.27 | Seerah | Unkle: I don't think PocketGnome used that function (I admit, I had to look it up to remember just what PG does... >< ) http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/pocket-gnome but Humbedooh would be the one to confirm :) |
| 18:30.54 | Unkle | bah |
| 18:31.04 | Unkle | i conflated the two |
| 18:32.59 | Myridin | better not let my mates see my ui, it's all purple and stuff |
| 18:33.08 | Myridin | only thing missing now is a unicorn and some butterflies |
| 18:33.20 | Seerah | purple is very regal |
| 18:33.33 | Myridin | true |
| 18:33.59 | Seerah | http://crystal-cure.com/purple.html |
| 18:34.20 | Myridin | btw , I swapped the masque skinner with shinybuffs again :) |
| 18:34.21 | Myridin | Purple is the color of good judgment. |
| 18:34.32 | Myridin | These people play paladins and wear that transmog set, 100% |
| 18:35.05 | Humbedooh | pocket gnome was just a calculator :) |
| 18:35.15 | Humbedooh | a spin-off of gnomexcel |
| 18:37.06 | Fisker | so jnwhiteh |
| 18:37.09 | Fisker | you should've gone to IO :( |
| 18:37.15 | Fisker | then i could've preordered project glass |
| 18:37.59 | karl_w_w | ~seen airtonix |
| 18:38.10 | purl | airtonix <~quassel@unaffiliated/airtonix> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 51d 20h 51m 45s ago, saying: 'karl_w_w: green doors'. |
| 18:38.10 | Gnarfoz | no, because you're not US-based |
| 18:38.11 | karl_w_w | what's the thingo to make it work |
| 18:38.14 | karl_w_w | ah |
| 18:38.16 | Myridin | Seerah, is it possible to change the scale of the buffs? Is that in the lua ? |
| 18:38.17 | Gnarfoz | karl_w_w: patience ;) |
| 18:38.57 | Seerah | The scale? As in teh size? Of course. It's in the options |
| 18:39.37 | Unkle | I'm strange, but I generally scale up the minimap and scale down buffs/debuffs. |
| 18:39.46 | Myridin | Ah, sorry, I overlooked :) |
| 18:40.01 | karl_w_w | scales up Unkle |
| 18:40.14 | Seerah | :) |
| 18:40.17 | Unkle | karl_w_w: You have all the wrong plumbing for that. *snark* |
| 18:40.23 | Lopeppeppy | *purr* |
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| 18:43.16 | Fisker | jesus christ |
| 18:43.24 | Lopeppeppy | on a pogo stick. |
| 18:43.30 | Fisker | i finally thought Google would get rid of the non-developers by not giving them shit this years I/O |
| 18:43.39 | Fisker | turns out they gave them a free phone, tablet and entertainment system |
| 18:43.41 | Fisker | WAY TO GO |
| 18:43.58 | TMc51 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUhOnX8qt3I OMG, Meet the Pyro is AWESOME |
| 18:44.26 | Fisker | old TMc51 |
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| 18:45.51 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: you mean get rid of them for next year |
| 18:45.52 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 18:46.19 | Gnarfoz | also, they'd be stupid not to use this way to get their new shit into the hands of people so more people can go :omigod: over them |
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| 18:52.37 | Unkle | Journolisits and tech evengelicals go to events like I/O like Rizzo the Rat is in muppet films "And I am here for the food. " |
| 18:52.50 | Unkle | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:56.14 | Myridin | oh right, spain vs portugal is on |
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| 19:02.29 | Myridin | Seerah, did you make a boss loot frame? |
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| 19:03.38 | Seerah | LovelyLoot prettifies the standard loot window and the roll frames |
| 19:03.56 | Gnarfoz | the MoP loot frames look pretty nice |
| 19:11.58 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2012/06/a-lot-with-a-little-minimalist-lego-sci-.php |
| 19:13.10 | Myridin | hehe |
| 19:14.04 | mikma | http://www.flickr.com/photos/nolnet/7422647388/in/pool-mifi <- this is hilarious |
| 19:14.14 | mckenziemc | mckenziemc |
| 19:14.16 | mckenziemc | oops |
| 19:16.00 | Myridin | two things I need to change until I can show you an acceptable screenshot |
| 19:16.57 | Myridin | the blizz guild group banner is still at the top whereas I moved the minimap and my target frame still has an inbuilt threat meter :P |
| 19:19.25 | Myridin | mm |
| 19:19.48 | Mr_Rabies | are there any LDB addons for difficulty? |
| 19:20.44 | Mr_Rabies | it seems the addon community has really shrank as of late WotLK, used to you could find an addon for anything, but it seems harder to find ones that aren't broken anymore :( |
| 19:21.01 | Myridin | WoWI is still pretty good |
| 19:21.20 | Seerah | Myridin: you can move the guild group banner in the movers section of PocketPlot |
| 19:21.52 | Seerah | Mr_Rabies: I think so, though I don't use one myself |
| 19:22.08 | Mr_Rabies | i see a grand total of one, updated before cata came out :( |
| 19:23.03 | Seerah | that doesn't mean it doesn't work |
| 19:23.16 | Seerah | sometimes I don't bother updating my addons for a TOC change |
| 19:24.14 | Mr_Rabies | i'm not gonna use something that out of date :P |
| 19:24.17 | nilyaK | that, I maintain a simple addon, nothing that anyone here prob cares about, but it's worked fine I don't think I've updated it since cata was released and that was merely a TOC change |
| 19:24.31 | Arrowmaster | http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/27/bill-would-make-it-a-crime-to-knowingly-mislead-voters-about-elections/ |
| 19:24.35 | Seerah | Myridin: you know where you have your coords now is going to overlap a minimap icon? ;) |
| 19:24.42 | Mr_Rabies | i'd rather do without now than become dependent on it and have no recourse when it inevitably breaks |
| 19:25.05 | Seerah | that api is unlikely to change. who's the author? |
| 19:25.22 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: I'm always astounded when I read links like that and think "wait, that's not a crime already?" |
| 19:25.30 | Arrowmaster | nope |
| 19:25.37 | Myridin | lol, you seen my forum post yet then, I was about to link it :) |
| 19:26.03 | Mr_Rabies | Verissi, Seerah |
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| 19:26.11 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info14468-V_DifficultyLDB.html |
| 19:26.19 | Arrowmaster | did you hear about the recall election recently where robocalls were telling people if they voted to recall the governor they didnt have to vote at the election, which was false |
| 19:26.46 | Gnarfoz | no, since I don't really follow US news |
| 19:26.51 | Gnarfoz | but: nice |
| 19:26.54 | Seerah | just did. your purple border doesn't quite match the purple you have elsewhere, either. Allow me to introduce you to ColorPickerPlus |
| 19:27.21 | Arrowmaster | yeah republicans are fucking scum bags with all the bullshit theyve been pulling recently to cheat elections |
| 19:27.38 | Myridin | Is that the addon I dream that existed |
| 19:27.45 | Myridin | Copy pastable colours for borders and bars? |
| 19:28.39 | Seerah | Mr_Rabies: I'm sure it'd be simple enough to fix or make a new one |
| 19:28.55 | Seerah | Myridin: ;) |
| 19:28.57 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, but i'm not capable of doing that myself |
| 19:29.08 | Mr_Rabies | also something's already horribly broken in my UI and i don't know what |
| 19:29.08 | Myridin | But that would imply my UI would finally be consistent |
| 19:29.10 | Seerah | but you are surrounded by people that can! :D |
| 19:29.30 | Myridin | Seerah, what did you think about the layout? should I change anything? |
| 19:29.41 | Mr_Rabies | every time i go into combat, especially in a raid, i get "your interface is experiencing too many errors, your game experience may be diminished" |
| 19:29.52 | Mr_Rabies | but there's no LUA errors |
| 19:29.53 | Mr_Rabies | :X |
| 19:30.10 | mckenziemc | is error display turned off? |
| 19:30.13 | Mr_Rabies | nope |
| 19:30.19 | Seerah | I would personally swap player and target frames |
| 19:30.30 | Mr_Rabies | i've got bugsack on and everything |
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| 19:31.21 | Seerah | there *might* be a setting in bugsack to make it not record anything when it's flooded.... did you look? I dont' right remember |
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| 19:32.45 | Seerah | Myridin: and give skada a border to match pocketplot |
| 19:33.19 | Myridin | Excellent idea :o |
| 19:33.38 | Myridin | Target frame on top, mhm, that'd be new |
| 19:33.53 | Seerah | right now, you'd have a hole in your UI when you don't have a target |
| 19:34.26 | Seerah | and you'll get used to it after a few combats |
| 19:35.08 | Myridin | True, I suppose it's better as well to have the player frame in the centre |
| 19:36.20 | Arrowmaster | MS does it again, pushing Skype through windows update as an "Update Rollup" |
| 19:36.36 | Myridin | although, come to think about it, I found the first picture I ever posted |
| 19:36.39 | Myridin | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=224129&postcount=10 |
| 19:36.42 | Myridin | huge step forward ;) |
| 19:36.57 | Gnarfoz | skype? windows update? |
| 19:37.13 | Gnarfoz | skype updated itself recently for me, but it has its own mechanism for that |
| 19:38.09 | Arrowmaster | http://i.imgur.com/qnPBS.png |
| 19:38.25 | Mr_Rabies | i'll check, Seerah, but i believe it does occasionally display lua messages, just rarely |
| 19:38.30 | Mr_Rabies | compactraidframe messages, mostly |
| 19:38.31 | Arrowmaster | guy found out WSUS has pushed skype to every system at his workplace |
| 19:39.19 | Seerah | Myridin: yep! :) |
| 19:39.50 | Seerah | Mr_Rabies: I do remember seeing reports of errors like that, but I can't recall off the top of my head what caused them... |
| 19:39.56 | Seerah | you could do a binary search. /shrug |
| 19:40.01 | Myridin | I could also change everything to blue , heh. To match my trans |
| 19:40.07 | Myridin | am I really that vein |
| 19:40.46 | Myridin | that's not the word I'm looking for, I meant shallow :p |
| 19:40.52 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: huuuuh? "found out wsus has pushed"? you realize some admin at his workplaces runs that WSUS server and controls what is or is not delivered through it? (and it call deliver all MSIs you like?) |
| 19:41.04 | Gnarfoz | s/call/can/ |
| 19:41.33 | Arrowmaster | http://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/vokhw/umskypereally/ |
| 19:41.51 | Myridin | might even upload it, see if it gets any downloads haha |
| 19:41.55 | Arrowmaster | his fault for having "All Products" checked but still |
| 19:43.26 | Gnarfoz | sounds like 'update rollups' is a "being nice" service that provides up to date versions for a wide range of stuff you might be using |
| 19:43.38 | Gnarfoz | so yeah, first comment has it right "why do you even have that enabled" |
| 19:43.46 | Lopeppeppy | I "might" have brought along my arrowhead collection, but I don't think I did! |
| 19:43.49 | Gnarfoz | annnnyway |
| 19:43.57 | Gnarfoz | has someone won that football match already? |
| 19:44.46 | Myridin | No. |
| 19:44.47 | Myridin | :D |
| 19:45.08 | Gnarfoz | how is it? good enough warranting to move to the sofa and turn on tv? :O |
| 19:45.26 | Gnarfoz | or as boring as england vs. italy |
| 19:45.37 | Myridin | Its alright |
| 19:45.43 | Myridin | spain attacking, portugal defending |
| 19:45.50 | Gnarfoz | I'll give it a try, I guess ;> |
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| 19:47.17 | Myridin | Just have to download reflux for the addon profile thing if I want to upload, right? |
| 19:48.26 | Seerah | not necessarily |
| 19:48.50 | Myridin | No? |
| 19:49.10 | Myridin | Ofcourse, I'll be tweaking it first because this isn't good enough yet, but the basic layout is there |
| 19:49.11 | Seerah | no. just make sure it "just works" or give clear instructions ;) |
| 19:50.29 | Myridin | well, I'll need to edit the wtf files etc as well, better read up on the subject |
| 19:51.05 | Myridin | and stack the hidden action bars neatly, cause this is pretty ugly when they're just hidden in the centre of the screen ;) |
| 19:51.07 | Seerah | Myridin: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21175 |
| 19:52.49 | Myridin | Thanks |
| 19:53.15 | Myridin | I think in my case I'd also include the Fonts folder, as I've changed the ingame ones and meddled with the fonts in the addons |
| 19:56.09 | Myridin | Good read :) Will finish the things you suggested , then do what it says there and upload tomorrow |
| 19:56.15 | Myridin | Wonder how it'll do hehe. |
| 19:58.49 | Myridin | Going to stop pestering everyone now, back in an hour or 2 |
| 20:06.36 | mikma | also, https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/396855_10150951451878821_139764484_n.jpg |
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| 20:08.57 | mckenziemc | i don't get it mikma |
| 20:10.18 | Arrowmaster | BTTF |
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| 20:11.09 | nevcairiel | must be an alternate timeline, our today looks different then how it looked in th movie |
| 20:11.13 | nevcairiel | they must've changed it! |
| 20:11.58 | mikma | indeed |
| 20:12.05 | mikma | we need to go back |
| 20:12.17 | Arrowmaster | i dont think they ever traveled to 2012 in the movies |
| 20:13.29 | nevcairiel | yeh, the future they go to is 2015 |
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| 20:16.03 | nevcairiel | i still dont see flying cars in 3 years! |
| 20:16.25 | Arrowmaster | or Jaws 28 |
| 20:16.26 | mikma | how about manpowered quadrocopters? |
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| 20:22.01 | Jamash | sup foolks |
| 20:22.20 | Arrowmaster | mikma: dont mention quadcopters, i almost ordered an RC one the other night for $600+ |
| 20:22.25 | Jamash | looks like I won't need to replace my laptop after all |
| 20:23.05 | Jamash | http://powerjackrepair.net/ |
| 20:23.25 | Jamash | Arrowmaster: why didn't you? |
| 20:24.04 | Arrowmaster | because then i would probably send even more to set it up to do FPV |
| 20:24.20 | Jamash | fpv = ? |
| 20:24.35 | Jamash | female papilloma virus? |
| 20:24.43 | Arrowmaster | first person view |
| 20:24.51 | Arrowmaster | flying it with a camera on it |
| 20:24.59 | Jamash | ah |
| 20:25.19 | Jamash | so, spy drone |
| 20:25.38 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 20:26.18 | Jamash | /play missionimpossibletheme.ogg |
| 20:26.59 | Arrowmaster | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMpBVgHyoFE |
| 20:27.20 | Jamash | that had better be the mission impossible theme |
| 20:27.21 | Arrowmaster | music is a bit loud but this guy is flying the quad qith a pair of video goggles |
| 20:28.06 | Jamash | is disappointed |
| 20:29.14 | Jamash | does he have binocular cameras? |
| 20:29.21 | Jamash | that would be pretty awesome |
| 20:30.12 | nevcairiel | why dont they sell those with a camera mount already installed |
| 20:30.18 | nevcairiel | i would buy it probably, because i r lazy .p |
| 20:30.23 | Arrowmaster | they do |
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| 20:31.08 | Arrowmaster | http://witespyquad.gostorego.com/quads.html you can get one with a camera already installed |
| 20:31.27 | Jamash | you know it's only a matter of time before someone tries to do something really stupid+illegal with one of those |
| 20:31.50 | nevcairiel | interesting, i also found one with a camera tightly integrated and an iPad control app :p |
| 20:32.01 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: the ar drone? |
| 20:32.02 | nevcairiel | wonder whats the range on that |
| 20:32.04 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 20:32.10 | Arrowmaster | its limited to wifi range |
| 20:32.16 | nevcairiel | so not far |
| 20:32.32 | nilyaK | aka most first world countries |
| 20:33.03 | Arrowmaster | the one i linked comes with a receiver for a real RC transmitter or you can get the transmitter with it |
| 20:41.12 | foxlit | Hm, can't actually change the primary category of a mod on wowi |
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| 20:43.03 | kd3 | ugh, it's hot. and I need to get my car's a/c worked on |
| 20:44.48 | Fisker | pls Antiarc |
| 20:44.51 | Fisker | don't be nexus 7'ing |
| 20:45.27 | Fisker | ooh |
| 20:45.43 | Fisker | on my new tablet version of Google+ i can see that Cairenn is mad over facebook emails |
| 20:45.49 | Fisker | and that she spams me with competitions |
| 20:47.58 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://pastebin.com || 4.3.x ToC: 40300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || MoP Beta UI/API Changes forum: http://bit.ly/GMjEVC. Feel free to post what you find! || Battletags: http://goo.gl/2bm7n || MoP Beta Keys! http://bit.ly/MNsc0R or http://bit.ly/LNg7Yk || AddOns enabled in next Beta build http://bit.ly/LsXhEV |
| 20:48.32 | kd3 | whee |
| 20:48.36 | Cairenn | yep |
| 20:54.05 | foxlit | so when is the next build? :) |
| 20:54.24 | Cairenn | Rumours say next week, but /shrug |
| 20:54.24 | kd3 | soon(TM) |
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| 21:00.56 | Unkle | I so do not want to be at work today. |
| 21:01.24 | jnwhiteh | Wizards die too easily |
| 21:02.11 | jnwhiteh | So I got bored :P |
| 21:03.25 | Unkle | Malware, malware, malware, data recovery on SD card, data recovery on thumb drive, delete accounts …. someone shoot me now, please. |
| 21:06.19 | TC-Work | Quadro/Tesla Desktop Driver Release 295 |
| 21:06.20 | TC-Work | Version: 296.88 WHQL |
| 21:06.20 | TC-Work | does that seem kinda odd to anyone else? |
| 21:09.06 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 21:10.25 | foxlit | Cairenn: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=257246 << the post you're linking to is not by Ghostcrawler |
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| 21:11.03 | Cairenn | thanks |
| 21:11.15 | Cairenn | fixed |
| 21:11.34 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 21:11.46 | foxlit | awesome :) |
| 21:12.55 | Jamash | finally! |
| 21:13.03 | Cairenn | yep |
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| 21:19.38 | foxlit | Hm, desecrating fires now flags you for PvP |
| 21:20.37 | kd3 | hasn't it always? |
| 21:20.51 | foxlit | I don't think it did a couple of years ago |
| 21:28.01 | Amarande | foxlit: did you aggro the NPCs while doing it? (not sure if you can avoid that) |
| 21:28.21 | foxlit | the NPCs are civilians |
| 21:28.44 | Amarande | I know there's been a steady trend in an increasing number of places, since WotLK I think it is (might have been BC), for PvP flagged NPCs to flag you on aggro, regardless of if you or they even get to exchange an actual blow |
| 21:28.55 | Unkle | foxlit: It always has. |
| 21:29.36 | Amarande | Like I seem to remember in classic areas pre-cata, and I think in Outland, that if you aggro a PvP marked NPC, you didn't get flagged unless you actually dealt damage to them |
| 21:30.15 | clever_ | i remember that the local def channel wont show an alert until you do damage to the enemy |
| 21:30.26 | clever_ | and you can sit in the enemy city to use your own factions trade/general chat |
| 21:30.33 | clever_ | even as the guards beat on you :P |
| 21:30.46 | Amarande | Then I was rudely surprised in WotLK when I went too close to an Alliance stronghold in HF (which is easy to do, as it's quite near one of the Horde strongholds and its associated nearby questing area), aggroed a guard, never even got close enough to them for there to be any actual blows exchanged, and yet I was PvP flagged immediately upon aggro |
| 21:30.48 | clever_ | just make sure no paladins have ret aura on and they wont notice |
| 21:31.18 | Amarande | I'm still wondering why that was changed :S |
| 21:32.03 | Amarande | I'm not sure I even SAW the guard I aggroed, in fact ... heh |
| 21:32.18 | foxlit | nah, you just get flagged in some world locations now |
| 21:32.33 | foxlit | typically over opposing faction towns |
| 22:09.55 | Arrowmaster | http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/27/sergey-brin-demos-project-glass-on-stage-at-google-i-o/ |
| 22:09.58 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck |
| 22:10.29 | kd3 | the live skydivng? |
| 22:10.31 | kd3 | that was nuts |
| 22:10.38 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 22:10.47 | kd3 | and whoever thought of that is a freaking marketing genius |
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| 22:30.50 | Myridin|afk | back :0 |
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| 22:36.13 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Seerah] by ChanServ |
| 22:40.31 | Myridin | welcome back seerah ;D |
| 22:43.36 | Arrowmaster | is it just me or does $22.63/hr sound a bit high for an IT job position wanting candidates with an associate degree and 1 year of experience |
| 22:45.38 | nicoli_s | a bit high |
| 22:46.17 | Primer | maybe they're desperate |
| 22:46.55 | Unkle | Or the market in their area is saturated. |
| 22:47.16 | Arrowmaster | its for a city government office |
| 22:47.40 | Primer | what city? |
| 22:47.51 | Arrowmaster | im not telling |
| 22:47.56 | Arrowmaster | im applying |
| 22:48.14 | Arrowmaster | but its a small city in ohio |
| 22:48.19 | Primer | meh, I have a good paying job, I don't care |
| 22:48.25 | Primer | I'm just curious |
| 22:48.26 | Unkle | Then the degree requirement and pay rates are about right for entry level gov't employee. Bear in mind those jobes come with rare raises and near-zero room for advancement. |
| 22:48.44 | Primer | s/good/well/ |
| 22:48.50 | Arrowmaster | http://www.ketteringoh.org/newweb/departments/human_resources/documents/ISTech_AppSupport.pdf |
| 22:49.22 | Arrowmaster | i guess its safe to tell in here, you would be stupid to move to ohio for a job |
| 22:50.17 | Unkle | Sounds similar to my job but with Windows Server and VMware requirements tacked on. |
| 22:53.43 | Arrowmaster | i hate writing cover letters |
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| 22:54.26 | Fisker | Man |
| 22:55.03 | Fisker | The new offline maps support is hilariously bad. :( |
| 22:58.41 | Myridin | Matching colours is doing my head in, kgpanels is being nasty to me :D |
| 23:01.45 | Unkle | http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/06/27 |
| 23:21.14 | Amarande | gah is this my settings or the addons at fault |
| 23:21.37 | Amarande | issue with setting fonts in SCT, specifically |
| 23:21.57 | Arrowmaster | SCT... seriously? |
| 23:21.57 | Amarande | apparently, on the "frame 2" font, if you have a lot of fonts (eg if you have fonter installed), you can't pick the fonts towards the top of the list |
| 23:22.18 | Amarande | it's putting the top of the font select list off the top of the screen, and dragging the interface configgle main window downward doesn't help |
| 23:22.27 | Amarande | frame 1 doesn't have the same problem :S |
| 23:23.05 | Amarande | Arrow: I'm assuming you like friz quadrata for your combat scrolling text then :) |
| 23:23.18 | Arrowmaster | i dont play wow so no |
| 23:23.24 | Arrowmaster | but i know SCT has been dead for years |
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| 23:35.35 | Sintacks | heh. i'm almost 59 at the start of Act 3 |
| 23:39.48 | Jamash | I'm diablothreeless |
| 23:39.53 | Jamash | my laptop bork |
| 23:41.23 | Sintacks | i want a fucking combat log god damnit |
| 23:43.18 | mckenziemc | all i can get you is a fondling combat log |
| 23:48.21 | Jamash | what's wrong with the one in the game |
| 23:48.31 | Jamash | oh in D3 |
| 23:48.32 | Jamash | yes |
| 23:48.34 | Jamash | agreed |
| 23:53.23 | Amarande | I'm waiting till after Dragon Con to get D3 |
| 23:55.21 | Amarande | grah |
| 23:55.33 | Amarande | is there any way to change the colour of the hotkey indicators in bartender? |
| 23:55.56 | Amarande | for some reason the grey they're coming out as now is a lot harder to see than the white I think it used to be is |
| 23:56.41 | foxlit | To be fair, if I were building a chat mod, I'd probably get rid of WoW's combat log too. |
| 23:56.53 | foxlit | The thing is useless at what it does. |
| 23:57.40 | Myridin | lol |
| 23:58.04 | Myridin | Don't think I've ever looked at it |
| 23:58.35 | foxlit | yikes, it's close to 4k lines of code now. |
| 23:59.09 | Stanzilla | blame Antiarc and Xinhuan :D |
