| 00:07.53 | karl_w_w | pompy: "if it exists, there is porn of it"? |
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| 00:27.00 | karl_w_w | http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1340581520946.jpg epic |
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| 01:37.40 | durcyn | rule 34 stands |
| 01:41.01 | Kaylin | of course it does, I think I requested on the Direct X logo once, it was pretty messed up. |
| 01:43.01 | karl_w_w | fuck me why is the weather never nice |
| 01:43.41 | karl_w_w | 6 months of the year, hot. 4 months of the year, freezing. 2 months of the year, freezing and raining. |
| 01:45.22 | pompy | (6/24/2012 8:07:51 PM) karl_w_w: pompy: "if it exists, there is porn of it"? .... What do u mean |
| 01:45.56 | karl_w_w | that's the rule you were referring to? |
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| 02:10.33 | pompy | karl_w_w: no.. look at the title |
| 02:10.39 | pompy | i before e except after c |
| 02:10.41 | pompy | heh |
| 02:12.30 | karl_w_w | pompy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6D8dS3Owis |
| 02:14.31 | pompy | eh bbc |
| 02:19.56 | kd3 | ok, wtf. some guy tries to commit suicide with a nail gun. apparently the first shot doesn't work, or the second, so he switches sides and tries again? |
| 02:44.56 | Adys | http://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/vjm3b/how_i_feel_as_a_briton_when_people_in_warsaw_tell/c5537qu |
| 02:44.58 | Adys | poor america |
| 02:45.13 | Adys | one day you'll go metric. |
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| 02:55.54 | kd3 | oh, the 11PM tropical storm update is out |
| 02:56.00 | kd3 | wtb rain |
| 02:59.12 | mckenziemc | how about raining Fiskers |
| 02:59.38 | kd3 | no thanks |
| 02:59.56 | bluspacecow | *gets out a lawn chair for that* |
| 03:08.04 | Kraps | look at this crap http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/576707853059486193/73809178667D4B27A80CBB7252DE71803EBC9AB8/ |
| 03:08.51 | Kraps | and they wont come down the stairs |
| 03:09.29 | karl_w_w | so go around |
| 03:09.41 | bluspacecow | interesting |
| 03:09.46 | bluspacecow | does the steam overlay work for D3 ? |
| 03:10.16 | Kraps | nvm got it |
| 03:10.53 | bluspacecow | did you leave out a delicious cake trap for them ? |
| 03:10.59 | Kraps | heh |
| 03:12.51 | Kraps | i bout a whole set of mf gear after a guy told me its a good way to make money |
| 03:13.44 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 03:13.45 | bluspacecow | BBL |
| 03:14.15 | Kraps | i forgot my companion again |
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| 03:41.23 | Kraps | i have 184% mf with valor, 621 life on hit and 734 life on kill |
| 03:42.55 | Kaylin | delicious cake trap? |
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| 04:18.59 | karl_w_w | http://i46.tinypic.com/34eb7n7.png |
| 04:19.26 | Kraps | i laughed |
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| 12:19.59 | zenzio | I love when you get your holiday pay and tax return the same month... only downside is it feels so easy to spend money then |
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| 12:57.07 | Kraps | zenzio, steam sale is in a few days :D |
| 12:57.42 | zenzio | \o/ |
| 13:07.26 | Kalroth | ffff |
| 13:07.37 | mitch0 | 0xffff |
| 13:10.26 | zenzio | -1 |
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| 13:10.51 | karl_w_w | have any big pc games been released this year? |
| 13:11.01 | karl_w_w | im thinking like your FPSes and crap like that |
| 13:11.14 | karl_w_w | I can't think of a single one |
| 13:11.38 | mitch0 | zenzio: your registers are too small :P |
| 13:11.45 | zenzio | only FPSes? |
| 13:12.13 | zenzio | I hear at least there's been ME3, D3, and a few other big ones |
| 13:12.17 | karl_w_w | things with higher system requirements than MMOs |
| 13:12.22 | karl_w_w | and the like |
| 13:12.30 | karl_w_w | ME3 was last year? |
| 13:13.10 | karl_w_w | oh no, 6th march |
| 13:13.13 | zenzio | maybe in an alternate universe where the year is 2013 |
| 13:14.14 | karl_w_w | it all seems so long ago now :P |
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| 13:23.09 | Kraps | http://notalwaysright.com/thickheaded-as-thieves-part-2/21041 |
| 13:28.05 | mikma | http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57409959-10391704/device-may-be-able-to-make-stephen-hawking-talk-just-by-thinking/ |
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| 13:43.22 | pompy | ~seen seerah |
| 13:43.26 | purl | seerah <~Ryan@adsl-74-226-72-239.mem.bellsouth.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 17d 11h 58m 19s ago, saying: 'hehehe'. |
| 13:43.34 | pompy | :O |
| 13:43.44 | Lopeppeppy | Now that's just not right. |
| 13:44.00 | Lopeppeppy | I swear I chatted with her last week, and that would only be right here. |
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| 13:45.31 | zenzio | "Jun 25 02:19:40 *Seerah (~Ryan@adsl-74-226-72-239.mem.bellsouth.net) has left #wowuidev" |
| 13:45.41 | zenzio | so yes, don't know what purl's talking abotu |
| 13:45.44 | zenzio | or about |
| 13:45.52 | Lopeppeppy | Capitalization counts, perhaps? |
| 13:45.57 | zenzio | I was just wondering the same |
| 13:45.59 | Lopeppeppy | s/S |
| 13:46.00 | zenzio | ~seen Seerah |
| 13:46.01 | purl | seerah <~Ryan@adsl-74-226-72-239.mem.bellsouth.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 17d 12h 54s ago, saying: 'hehehe'. |
| 13:46.05 | pompy | nope |
| 13:46.10 | zenzio | intriguing |
| 13:46.20 | Lopeppeppy | ~botsnack |
| 13:46.20 | purl | :), Lopeppeppy |
| 13:46.35 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe she's got a secret gnomish spy cloak. |
| 13:46.37 | Kraps | she was last in diablo 14 hours ago |
| 13:46.53 | pompy | 2am eastern Lopeppeppy? |
| 13:47.20 | Lopeppeppy | If she's on vacation currently, 2am isn't horrible for her. She's not Eastern time either, IIRC. |
| 13:47.31 | pompy | yeah she is |
| 13:47.36 | zenzio | if you're referring to the time in my post, that's CET |
| 13:47.50 | pompy | kk so 8pm eastern |
| 13:48.04 | Lopeppeppy | 8pm is a very fine gnomish bedtime. |
| 13:48.15 | pompy | (6/24/2012 8:22:10 PM) Seerah [~Ryan@adsl-74-226-72-239.mem.bellsouth.net] entered the room. |
| 13:48.15 | pompy | (6/24/2012 8:22:11 PM) mode (+o Seerah) by ChanServ |
| 13:48.15 | pompy | (6/24/2012 8:22:25 PM) Seerah left the room. |
| 13:48.18 | pompy | odd |
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| 13:49.08 | Lopeppeppy | Cat ate the router. |
| 13:49.08 | pompy | ~seen seerah|away |
| 13:49.12 | purl | seerah|away <~Ryan@adsl-74-226-98-64.mem.bellsouth.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 42d 11h 53m 56s ago, saying: 'yeah, I got it all downloaded, but can't install'. |
| 13:49.18 | pompy | stupid purl |
| 13:51.06 | Lopeppeppy | Passing senility. |
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| 13:58.26 | karl_w_w | "Blizzard requested delete posts related to MoP cover on Official WoW Funsites" true? |
| 13:59.59 | Lopeppeppy | False, that sentence isn't in English. |
| 14:00.23 | Fisker | doesn't mean the statement isn't Lopeppeppy |
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| 14:00.38 | zenzio | I'm pretty sure the statement is not Lopeppeppy |
| 14:00.57 | Lopeppeppy | Okay, link for the actual Bliz statement then - if that's in English, I might be more tolerant of plausibility. |
| 14:01.39 | Fisker | pretty sure that if the fansites are not allowed to let the cover be posted, then they are probably not allowed to post about being told not to post the cover |
| 14:01.43 | Fisker | NDA 101 Lopeppeppy |
| 14:02.30 | karl_w_w | ^ |
| 14:02.34 | Lopeppeppy | Is that what that sentence was meant to convey, Fisker? Even with your explanation, I'm not 100% sure. But your explanation makes sense, that's true - NDA includes not talking about the NDA. |
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| 14:03.40 | karl_w_w | I wouldn't expect the front page MMO-C to say "btw guys, we have been asked to take down the picture of the leaked box cover by blizzard. They didn't think asking us to do this would indicate it's validity or anything like that/" |
| 14:04.15 | Fisker | it's still up on mmoc |
| 14:04.26 | pompy | probably someone from within blizzard poste dthe image |
| 14:04.27 | Kraps | ^ |
| 14:04.31 | pompy | perhaps they should fire him |
| 14:04.35 | pompy | or her |
| 14:04.41 | karl_w_w | could be anyone |
| 14:04.50 | Kraps | fire you |
| 14:04.55 | Kraps | or Fisker |
| 14:04.58 | pompy | an employee giving it to a friend to post maybe as well |
| 14:05.02 | pompy | trying to cover his tracks |
| 14:05.06 | karl_w_w | box making factory? disc pressing factory? shop with a display box? blizzard employee? |
| 14:05.08 | Lopeppeppy | I admit it, it was the one-armed kobold. |
| 14:05.11 | Kraps | fire Fisker out of a canon |
| 14:05.12 | Fisker | probably someone at the box factory |
| 14:05.15 | Lopeppeppy | You no take candle! But have box cover! |
| 14:05.44 | Torhal|work | pours hot wax on the box cover. |
| 14:05.50 | pompy | does that mean the game went through certification already? |
| 14:06.01 | Lopeppeppy | Torhal, how kinky. |
| 14:06.05 | Fisker | of what pompy ? |
| 14:06.16 | Torhal|work | Lopeppeppy: You're the one who mentioned candles. |
| 14:06.30 | karl_w_w | children appropriateness, Fisker |
| 14:06.38 | Fisker | does it matter? |
| 14:06.43 | Fisker | It'll get the rating it needs |
| 14:06.57 | Lopeppeppy | You took it to the next step all on your own, I just watched. |
| 14:07.26 | Torhal|work | Bah. This is YOU we're talking about. Simply due to that, I was pushed over that cliff. |
| 14:07.48 | Lopeppeppy | Bah humbug. I'm innocent as the driven snow. Just ask Cairenn. |
| 14:07.49 | pompy | Torhal|work: get back to work |
| 14:08.03 | karl_w_w | work work |
| 14:08.07 | karl_w_w | stop touching me |
| 14:08.13 | Lopeppeppy | zug zug |
| 14:08.24 | Torhal|work | You mean the "driven-on" snow, surely. |
| 14:09.35 | Kraps | oh snap |
| 14:09.51 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, haven't heard *that* one before! |
| 14:11.29 | Kraps | ugh, wtb an option to make diablofans.com have a white background |
| 14:12.02 | pompy | yeah the click backgrounds or whatever they are called are annoying |
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| 14:12.31 | karl_w_w | Kraps: greasemonkey |
| 14:12.35 | pompy | wowhead has them too. and i think mmo-c now |
| 14:13.07 | Kraps | hey i actually have that' |
| 14:13.14 | Kraps | what do i do |
| 14:13.21 | karl_w_w | I don't remember |
| 14:13.30 | karl_w_w | but i remember it being easy enough :P |
| 14:13.49 | karl_w_w | it's just javascript |
| 14:13.53 | Kraps | thanks a lot |
| 14:13.59 | karl_w_w | any time |
| 14:14.33 | Kraps | i was being sarcastic |
| 14:16.06 | karl_w_w | and I didn't care :D |
| 14:16.27 | foxlit | "pompy: yeah the click backgrounds or whatever they are called are annoying" << the what? |
| 14:17.33 | pompy | http://www.wowhead.com/ |
| 14:17.36 | pompy | foxlit: ^ |
| 14:17.48 | foxlit | I don't really know what you're referring to. |
| 14:17.54 | foxlit | It's just a black background for me. |
| 14:18.03 | pompy | then ur adblock is preolly blockin it |
| 14:18.04 | pompy | heh |
| 14:18.06 | foxlit | Hm, maybe they're plastered in advertising for you? |
| 14:18.13 | pompy | yeahh |
| 14:19.47 | foxlit | I null-route the advertisers that host these things. If they can't be civil, they can go watch their own ads. |
| 14:19.48 | Torhal|work | pompy: Are you logged in? |
| 14:20.19 | pompy | foxlit: http://miksta.teamofprogrammers.com/wheadhp.jpg |
| 14:20.30 | pompy | Torhal|work: um yeah but thats zam premium related |
| 14:20.32 | pompy | i dont have that. |
| 14:20.56 | Torhal|work | Oh, I missed the fact that you switched sites :P |
| 14:21.02 | foxlit | I guess part of that is justice for using a wide browser window :P |
| 14:21.05 | Torhal|work | diablofans is what I was referring to :P |
| 14:21.24 | foxlit | just browse at 700xHeight, problem solved :) |
| 14:22.43 | pompy | ah nevermind diablofans doesnt have tha ttype of background even when not logged in... guess kraps just doesnt like that blocky orange background ;) |
| 14:23.17 | Kraps | no its the white-on-blackness |
| 14:23.58 | Kraps | when i read it for a minute then switch to chat its like im staring into the sun |
| 14:24.09 | pompy | http://www.diablofans.com/blizz-tracker/topic/227928-account-suspended-please-help/ owned |
| 14:24.47 | pompy | Kraps: screenie? |
| 14:25.44 | Kraps | i'm just talking about the color scheme http://gyazo.com/20cae6e62abf3fb35fd7399851e7c070.png?1340633706 |
| 14:26.30 | pompy | http://www.diablofans.com/topic/52484-chrome-extension-diablo-3-toolbox/ neat |
| 14:26.33 | karl_w_w | Kraps: your irc is black text on a white background? do you hate yourself? |
| 14:26.38 | pompy | now for it just to be in firefox too |
| 14:27.00 | Kraps | why is that bad karl_w_w |
| 14:27.12 | Kraps | thats how most things are |
| 14:27.26 | Torhal|work | Screens are not paper, and I never understood why everyone tries to treat them as so |
| 14:27.29 | pompy | Kraps: oh their backround is fixed |
| 14:27.30 | Torhal|work | That's a LOT of fucking light. |
| 14:27.38 | pompy | well |
| 14:27.49 | pompy | it scrolls wit hte page i mean |
| 14:28.03 | karl_w_w | Kraps: switch everything you can to white text on a black background |
| 14:28.07 | karl_w_w | you'll thank me later |
| 14:28.21 | Torhal|work | Indeed. |
| 14:28.22 | pompy | i have colored text on a white background for irc :) .. i dont mind it! |
| 14:28.25 | Torhal|work | Fewer headaches. |
| 14:28.40 | Torhal|work | I even make sure my programming editor has black background |
| 14:28.59 | karl_w_w | I think that's where most people start |
| 14:29.17 | karl_w_w | it's just so much easier to look at |
| 14:29.45 | pompy | karl_w_w: a black background? |
| 14:29.55 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 14:30.00 | pompy | hm i wish the curse toolbar at the top wouldnt scroll with the page! |
| 14:30.13 | karl_w_w | pompy: greasemonkey :P |
| 14:30.23 | Kraps | firefox need an easier way to change this shit |
| 14:30.47 | Kraps | i dont like a totally black bg |
| 14:33.13 | pompy | wow lol http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5911722060?page=1#19 |
| 14:34.30 | Lopeppeppy | Buh-what? |
| 14:35.39 | Kraps | thats a thing alright |
| 14:35.54 | pompy | http://www.diablofans.com/blizz-tracker/topic/227853-response-to-petition-to-lower-repair-costs/ perhaps their forum software should know if its in all caps lol. |
| 14:36.37 | mikma | that's just .. lame from zarhym |
| 14:37.33 | Kraps | what do you want him to say |
| 14:37.34 | Kraps | :p |
| 14:38.01 | mikma | nothing |
| 14:38.07 | mikma | if that's the only thing he has to say |
| 14:44.57 | karl_w_w | personally I would want him to say iy |
| 14:45.00 | karl_w_w | it |
| 14:45.15 | mikma | so you wan't him to whisper it in your ear |
| 14:45.29 | karl_w_w | if you have to put your subject in caps it clearly means you don't have much of substance to post in the thread |
| 14:47.02 | pompy | yeah, you definitely shouldnt do that in the first place, but blizzard should prevent that also! |
| 14:48.00 | pompy | if i try to post a ticket on wowace on an addons page with the title in all caps.. it says "Please don't use all capital letters." |
| 14:48.01 | pompy | :) |
| 14:48.04 | Lopeppeppy | They should prevent whirled peas too, but they don't. |
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| 17:05.25 | Gnarfoz | my google-fu is disappointing me tonight; can I somehow append further code to a shell function (bash)? |
| 17:08.41 | Dagmar | Not directly. |
| 17:08.54 | Dagmar | You can just redefine the entire thing tho |
| 17:11.17 | Gnarfoz | can I get the current content? |
| 17:11.29 | Gnarfoz | so as to redefine new as old+new? |
| 17:13.44 | Dagmar | declare -f functionname will get it out into the open |
| 17:14.57 | Dagmar | I just get this feeling that you're trying to do something 'clever' |
| 17:15.59 | nilyaK | cleverbot says: I get the feeling you have no friends. |
| 17:16.11 | nilyaK | >_> |
| 17:16.21 | Gnarfoz | I'm trying to do exactly what I asked |
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| 17:22.47 | Dagmar | Gnarfoz: Yeah, I figured that much. The real question is "why?". Most people don't need to have bash functions that write themselves. |
| 17:23.29 | Dagmar | Of course, if you're trying to hamper Skynet by tangling it's AI up in bash scripts, I'm all for that. |
| 17:23.36 | Gnarfoz | obviously that |
| 17:25.53 | Gnarfoz | backup script supports hooks, I use the one at the latest point in the script (POST_PROCESS_HOOK), I define what's done by simply defining that hook as a function. The global include that's part of each separate backup script (mysql, chroots, etc, homes, whathaveyou) includes this. In the global include, I use it to call a script that purges expired backups. |
| 17:26.37 | Gnarfoz | however, some of the separate scripts (mysql, for example) use the same hook to throw away some files after their run, so these separate scripts also define this function, overwriting the one from the global one |
| 17:27.05 | Dagmar | Not if they're child processes they shouldn't. |
| 17:27.11 | Gnarfoz | -> all the separate scripts that use this hook for something specific to their own doing don't trigger the cleanup. |
| 17:28.16 | Dagmar | Sounds like the real problem is very far 'upstream' with having scripts that invoke other scripts in their same space, instead of invoking them as child processes |
| 17:28.43 | Dagmar | If you source another script, it can trample functions |
| 17:29.21 | Dagmar | If you just call it as a child, it can access the parent's defined functions fine, but won't overwrite them--only it's local copy of the environment |
| 17:30.17 | Dagmar | THere's actually a bit of fancy required to spawn a child process and *prevent* it from inhereiting copies of the parent processes functions |
| 17:30.38 | Gnarfoz | in that case, their local definition of the hook function would fail, wouldn't it |
| 17:30.56 | Gnarfoz | and yeah, I guess it tramples them |
| 17:31.17 | Gnarfoz | I could... try adding another hook with a different name in the same place... but I don't really want to tamper with the script :D |
| 17:31.27 | Dagmar | if you mark them read-only, then subsequent attempts to redefine them will fail |
| 17:31.39 | Gnarfoz | it's just a handful of separate ones, I guess I will just duplicate the call to the cleanup script |
| 17:32.13 | Gnarfoz | less work, same result |
| 17:33.27 | Dagmar | Less work is always good |
| 17:33.52 | Dagmar | oh dear god |
| 17:34.06 | Dagmar | $user requested two new domain names for two websites |
| 17:34.14 | Gnarfoz | so far, still sane |
| 17:34.42 | Dagmar | I emailed $user requesting they tell us what domain names they had in mind, since they just put a URL to some departmental site in the blank in the form. |
| 17:34.52 | Dagmar | Turns out $user wants us to think up some. |
| 17:35.18 | Dagmar | I don't think they really understand how this process works. |
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| 17:37.26 | Gnarfoz | haha |
| 17:43.31 | Gnarfoz | frenchies are so stuck up, they refuse to use our .de site... so they get a 'fr.' subdomain under a different domain (.com) of ours... |
| 17:44.02 | Gnarfoz | (they are essentially colleagues, not customers!) |
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| 17:52.37 | Amarande | hm. |
| 17:52.52 | Amarande | wonder if, if people find they don't like cross-realm zones, Venture Co and Ravenholdt servers will become unusually popular, heh |
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| 18:26.20 | Arrowmaster | trying to find this damn hanging tree in act1 but it wont spawn |
| 18:29.19 | cbreak | hanging tree? |
| 18:29.33 | Arrowmaster | for one of the book achievemetns |
| 18:30.15 | cbreak | Tree with people hanging from them? |
| 18:30.41 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 18:30.57 | cbreak | I think I remember that |
| 18:31.07 | cbreak | it's before the cathetral |
| 18:31.33 | Dagmar | Far on the west side of the map, sometimes it's an entrance to a small pit |
| 18:31.51 | Dagmar | It took me awhile to realize it wasn't always the same each time. |
| 18:31.58 | cbreak | probably randomly spawning? |
| 18:32.45 | Arrowmaster | stackexchange says its in the weeping hollow |
| 18:32.52 | Primer | the one that leads to "mass grave"? |
| 18:32.56 | Arrowmaster | although i thought i remembered it being on the way to the cath |
| 18:32.56 | Primer | I ran into that last night |
| 18:32.58 | Dagmar | That sounds like it yeah |
| 18:33.13 | foxlit | There's obviously more than one tree with corpses hanging from it in this game. |
| 18:33.16 | Arrowmaster | the mass grave one i keep finding but theres nothing associated with it |
| 18:33.54 | Arrowmaster | i need the one that drops the book |
| 18:34.14 | Arrowmaster | then i need to run old tristram a shit load of times because it seems a lot of books drop from there |
| 18:34.32 | Dagmar | There's a whole slew of trees with one or two bodies hanging from them, but the one over the mass-grave is the one with the most bodies |
| 18:35.11 | Dagmar | ...at least, it's the one I remember as having the most. |
| 18:36.42 | Arrowmaster | theres a static one that sometimes has a small dungeon spawn on it, thats not the one im looking for |
| 18:38.28 | Arrowmaster | The Hanging Tree: Drops after you trigger an event at a tree w/ people being hung (random spawn in the Weeping Hollow, and random chance to get the event, even if you find the tree). A horde of skeletons will spawn after breaking the coffin if you have the correct spawn. |
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| 18:44.41 | foxlit | hm, I now have 4 pretty worthless legendaries in the stash :( |
| 18:45.09 | mikma | u fisker? |
| 18:45.15 | Unkle | I have three. And I'm wearing one which give +XP at 60 because it's not actually worthless. :) |
| 18:48.42 | Unkle | Well, the +XP is, but the rest of it isn't. |
| 18:50.04 | Arrowmaster | all i found is some WD helm |
| 18:50.11 | Arrowmaster | my only legendary |
| 18:54.05 | Amarande | Besides, regarding the level 60 and +XP, D3 might see an expansion pack eventually like D2 did, I'm guessing |
| 18:54.26 | Amarande | although D2 didn't raise the level cap with LoD so I'm not sure if D3 would either |
| 18:54.39 | Amarande | (well, I guess LoD raised the *practical* level cap but not the real one ...) |
| 18:54.54 | cbreak | Diablo is done |
| 18:54.56 | foxlit | Arrowmaster: you too can swim in worthless legendaries if you stack 300% MF |
| 18:54.59 | cbreak | all the diablos are dead |
| 18:55.05 | cbreak | and the lesser evils too |
| 18:55.12 | foxlit | cbreak: it's np, watch that cinematic |
| 18:55.15 | cbreak | and now the world is a happy pony land |
| 18:55.23 | foxlit | "Oh hey guys, we defeated diablo. What shall we do with the corpse?" |
| 18:55.24 | Unkle | Right now though, playing a Witch Doctor on Inferno makes me ask myself "Why the fuck am I playing this game again?" |
| 18:55.27 | foxlit | "THROW IT OVERBOARD!" |
| 18:55.29 | cbreak | unless that stupid gem crafter doesn't get his gem back |
| 18:55.35 | foxlit | "Shouldn't we do something about the soulstone? |
| 18:55.53 | foxlit | "NO, THROW IT OVERBOARD WITH THE CORPSE. NOTHING CAN POSSIBLY GO WRONG. I'M WISDOM ITSELF!" |
| 18:55.57 | Amarande | Throw it overboard ... yeah, because sinking to the bottom of a river really did so much to keep the One Ring from getting back into play again :) |
| 18:56.36 | Unkle | WE NEED A SEQUAL! DON'T DO ANYTHING TO PERMANANETLY SOVE ANYTHING! |
| 18:56.43 | Unkle | s/SOVE/SOLVE |
| 18:57.05 | Dagmar | Unkle++ |
| 18:57.36 | Amarande | heh, sounds like D3 avoided that though Unkle |
| 18:57.39 | Unkle | Also, it's hot here today. Africa hot. Tarzan couldn't take this kind of heat. |
| 18:57.48 | Amarande | which is good, because there are an awful lot of games these days with distinctly inconclusive endings |
| 18:58.08 | Amarande | specifically *because*, I imagine, publishers are loath to allow developers to completely cap off the story because if it's a hit they want to be able to sell sequels and DLC |
| 18:58.08 | cbreak | Like WoW |
| 18:58.13 | cbreak | I still didn't find the ending |
| 18:58.18 | Amarande | cbreak: well, MMOs are different :P |
| 18:58.29 | foxlit | cbreak: everyone dies, Hogger rules supreme. |
| 18:58.35 | foxlit | The end. |
| 18:58.37 | Amarande | which, indeed, makes me wonder what is going to become of LOTRO eventually |
| 18:58.49 | Unkle | Right now, any defense I make of D3 feels a little like Stockholm Syndrome. |
| 18:58.51 | cbreak | they throw the ring into the fire |
| 18:58.59 | cbreak | and then fight over the spoils of the war |
| 18:58.59 | Amarande | yeah, that's the thing |
| 18:59.03 | cbreak | the end. |
| 18:59.09 | Amarande | since LOTRO's main plot follows as a side-story alongside Frodo's quest |
| 18:59.25 | Amarande | what will they do with Middle-Earth eventually? |
| 18:59.27 | Unkle | Eventually the 3rd Age ends, the evles sail into the West, and Man rules Middle Earth without wizards and elves. |
| 18:59.29 | cbreak | the tom bombadil thing? |
| 18:59.38 | cbreak | I tried to read the silmarilon |
| 18:59.40 | Amarande | in fact, after Riders of Rohan it seems like they might only have room for two more expansions |
| 18:59.42 | cbreak | but fell asleep |
| 18:59.51 | Amarande | one for Gondor and Minas Tirith and then on to Mordor, and then what? |
| 19:00.07 | foxlit | it's np, they can write some more fiction. |
| 19:00.12 | Amarande | er, one for Gondor/MT and then one for Mordor |
| 19:00.13 | Unkle | The Siimarillion is sort of like listening to James Joyce recite Homer. |
| 19:00.16 | foxlit | Not like we're reenacting WW2 there. |
| 19:00.45 | foxlit | btw, ME3 Extended Cut tomorrow |
| 19:00.49 | Amarande | foxlit: actually, with the significant changes to the world after the One Ring was destroyed it's actually not all that easy to untangle |
| 19:01.01 | Amarande | for instance, Rivendell and especially Lothlorien are key areas along the main questline |
| 19:01.09 | cbreak | significant changes? |
| 19:01.15 | cbreak | it's like nothing happens for years |
| 19:01.27 | cbreak | and then they go on a cruise to the elven lands |
| 19:01.41 | Amarande | but, Lothlorien in particular (and I guess Imladris too, since Elrond's and Galadriel's rings both lost their power) should be fading away after the Mordor storyline |
| 19:02.26 | Unkle | Where they go when they're tired of the Mortal World and want to rest, relax and do as close to nothing as possible. Being immortal gets kind of old after a while. |
| 19:02.58 | Arrowmaster | i found the hanging tree but the event didnt spawn with it =( |
| 19:03.09 | foxlit | http://store.steampowered.com/app/213030/ << heh, released already? |
| 19:03.15 | Amarande | Then there's the matter of things like Carn Dum instance and some of the repeatable stuff in Mirkwood after the ring is destroyed, since both of those areas feature Nazgul |
| 19:03.31 | Amarande | however, I guess the instance-is-a-steady-state principle of MMORPGs holds there :) |
| 19:03.47 | Dagmar | Hey hey today is the 25th ain't it |
| 19:03.48 | Amarande | we're up to Deathwing in the storyline, but you can still feel free to go back and kill Arthas, Illidan, or even C'Thun :) |
| 19:03.53 | Dagmar | zerg rushes the Play store |
| 19:04.16 | cbreak | Amarande: yeah. Or you can kill Blackwing. |
| 19:04.18 | cbreak | twice. |
| 19:04.59 | Amarande | I still wonder too if they should sell a Wardrobe service a la LOTRO as a new thing in WoW at some point. :) |
| 19:04.59 | cbreak | the only instance blizz ever removed was the one that dropped the caster legendary... they hate mages! |
| 19:05.07 | Amarande | there's a new caster legendary though :) |
| 19:05.15 | Amarande | which ... is possibly way too easy to get, it looks like |
| 19:05.23 | cbreak | impossible to get :( |
| 19:05.25 | Amarande | either that or Wings of Aurora have *way* too much spare time |
| 19:05.31 | cbreak | my guild doesn't raid anymore |
| 19:05.44 | Dagmar | Argh I thought EP3 was going to happen on Android as well |
| 19:06.04 | Amarande | cbreak: I was looking at this one world-top-10 Taiwanese guild whose raid specs I use as models for how to spec my characters of the same class now |
| 19:06.12 | Amarande | at least two of their casters have the legendary :O |
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| 19:06.33 | cbreak | well |
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| 19:06.47 | cbreak | I was looking at the world top-10 billionaires on earth |
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| 19:07.16 | cbreak | all of them own their own companies |
| 19:07.31 | foxlit | Dagmar: it should? |
| 19:07.46 | Amarande | cbreak: heh well, supposing you managed to become a billionaire without owning a company to do it, what else is there to do with that much money besides purchase a successful business :) |
| 19:07.52 | foxlit | eventually. At least that's what their faq says |
| 19:08.02 | cbreak | Amarande: an island! With a vulcano! |
| 19:08.04 | cbreak | and fast internet! |
| 19:08.16 | cbreak | in fact, scratch the island and the vulcano |
| 19:08.17 | Amarande | cbreak: and a spacecraft that steals satellites? :) |
| 19:08.24 | cbreak | oh yes! |
| 19:08.33 | cbreak | space x. virgin space. |
| 19:08.44 | Unkle | I want an orbital station and mind control lasers. |
| 19:08.51 | cbreak | hmm... Seems they are called Virgin Galactic |
| 19:09.20 | cbreak | Space X is probably one of the coolest companies to own. |
| 19:09.29 | cbreak | (not that I know from personal experience) |
| 19:11.09 | Amarande | actually, Wings of Aurora have at least TEN of the legendary caster staves equipped to members :O |
| 19:11.52 | Amarande | in fact, in counting out those ten or so I think I only saw meanwhile two or three who *didn't* have it |
| 19:12.10 | Amarande | and that's everyone on their 43666.67 PvE scored team, and at least one person who had a slightly lower score |
| 19:12.29 | Amarande | seriously, how do you get that many legendary caster staves in one guild ... |
| 19:12.58 | Amarande | or is the answer more likely a policy of "we only recruit casters who are jumping ship from another guild and already got the legendary before deciding to skip town"? heh |
| 19:13.46 | Amarande | I can only imagine there's probably at least a few top raid guilds over the world who have such policies. Which ... are really probably not too healthy for their servers as a whole :S |
| 19:14.28 | cbreak | maybe they do cross server recruitments |
| 19:14.37 | Unkle | You can do Firelands with multiple raids per week and stagger the stages everyone is on. But that's a LOT of hours. |
| 19:14.48 | Amarande | heh, that sort of recruitment policy's not too healthy for the entire game as a whole :) |
| 19:15.27 | Amarande | I mean, if you know of guilds (don't know if any US guilds have vampiric policies like that, but it might well be the case for Taiwan, given the inordinately large number of Dragonwraths in that one guild) who actively seek to specifically recruit casters who already have their Dragonwrath assembled |
| 19:15.51 | Amarande | doesn't that kind of discourage other guild leaders from ever letting any one caster finish assembling theirs, as that makes them suitable for headhunting by more hardcore guilds? :S |
| 19:16.41 | Amarande | It's like that Dilbert strip where the PHB won't let Dilbert take a class for a new cert because he doesn't want him to get credentials that would let him get a better job |
| 19:17.27 | Amarande | but, in the guild sense ... what does it do to the rest of the guilds in a server/region if, as is likely, their casters often decide upon assembling their staff of legend that it's time to jump to the top guild? |
| 19:18.11 | Amarande | It would seem unreasonable to expect each server or even region to ultimately (d)evolve to having but a single real raiding guild per faction :S |
| 19:18.37 | Amarande | and for all the other "raiding" guilds to just be training rungs for the ambitious to get their gear and move on up |
| 19:19.01 | Amarande | pretty much like one "major league" team per server and the rest of the good raiding guilds end up being the equivalent of AAA minor leagues :P |
| 19:19.46 | Amarande | or maybe even possibly just dissolve once enough of their members get geared enough that they can hop to higher-progression guilds |
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| 19:19.57 | Amarande | right? |
| 19:26.56 | Arrowmaster | winzip for android, i wonder who thought this was a good idea |
| 19:27.40 | Unkle | Random guy just walked into my office and wanted me to find a "missing/hidden partition" on his macbook. Strangest thing I've been asked all month. |
| 19:28.11 | Maldivia | let me guess... it's 200 MB in size, and the very first thing on the disk ? :) |
| 19:28.43 | Unkle | That's not the one he was looking for, but that was there (as it should be). |
| 19:29.21 | Unkle | He was complaining about 30GB missing… and I pointed out that he'd made a windows partition and used FAT to format it so… SLACK space. |
| 19:30.51 | Elkano | not the normal GB vs GiB? |
| 19:32.19 | Unkle | Just another case of "a little knowledge" is a dangerous thing. Formatting with FAT16 is bad, ok? And partitioning drives when you don't know what that means, also bad. |
| 19:33.30 | Maldivia | FAT16... ?! |
| 19:33.31 | Unkle | Yeah. Seriously. |
| 19:33.52 | cbreak | works with SD Cards... |
| 19:34.33 | Unkle | I think he was trying to install a copy of windows from a less than reputable source too. |
| 19:35.06 | Unkle | He had a disk image mounted, but the name was odd. |
| 19:35.11 | Maldivia | so FAT16, with 32k blocks... well, that'll use space quickly |
| 19:36.14 | Unkle | I told him "We don't do disk repair here, and I'm not insured for mucking about with your computer's data/drives. Apple sotre is 6 miles away. I suggest you go there. It's free." |
| 19:37.48 | Unkle | Still it was odd. |
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| 20:13.01 | Dagmar | wtf. A FAT16 filesystem on a mac? Mercury in the drinking water. |
| 20:13.19 | nilyaK | FAT makes it taste better, trufax. |
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| 20:17.24 | mckenziemc | i wouldn't exactly call it drinking water, regardless of the murcury |
| 20:17.32 | mckenziemc | mer* |
| 20:18.18 | Fisker | umad Dagmar ? |
| 20:20.05 | nilyaK | lolwut http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Fisker |
| 20:20.33 | Fisker | umad nilyaK ? |
| 20:20.56 | nilyaK | padded cell mad Fisker. |
| 20:21.12 | Fisker | damn |
| 20:22.44 | nilyaK | how about you what are you up to? |
| 20:22.58 | mckenziemc | he's being stopped |
| 20:23.15 | nilyaK | for traffic violations? damn quotas. |
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| 20:33.50 | Stanzilla | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gbDtSpTmI0 |
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| 20:38.39 | Amarande | hrm. |
| 20:38.47 | Amarande | I remember having an addon a while ago and now I can't remember what it's called |
| 20:38.52 | Amarande | although I do remember what it did |
| 20:39.22 | Amarande | it would automatically loot all the items off a mail when you opened it, that I do remember |
| 20:39.45 | Amarande | (and I think it might have auto deleted the mail after you looted the last item but I think that might be normal Blizzard behaviour for no-text item mails anyway) |
| 20:40.00 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: urghhhhhhhhhh |
| 20:40.09 | durcyn | any number of crappy mailbox addons will do that, Amarande |
| 20:40.18 | Gnarfoz | fix everything that's going to break when I update to php 5.4 for me, plx |
| 20:40.55 | Stanzilla | nah |
| 20:41.33 | Unkle | Stop using PHP. There. Fixed. |
| 20:41.49 | Gnarfoz | ok, Unkle volunteered to port everything to $otherlanguage |
| 20:42.01 | Gnarfoz | (which of course will never break when a new version comes out. noooo.) |
| 20:42.14 | Unkle | My rates are very reasonable. $5 MILLION DOLLARS. |
| 20:43.03 | Gnarfoz | are you called Bogdan, by any chance |
| 20:43.11 | Gnarfoz | (and do you or did you own a car wash) |
| 20:43.48 | Unkle | No, but I am bald and can put my pinky up to the corner of my mouth if it makes you feel any better. |
| 20:44.03 | Gnarfoz | are you very, very little? |
| 20:45.33 | Unkle | No, I happen to be rather large. Sort of ... rotund really. |
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| 20:51.06 | Unkle | PHP isn't so much a language as a system designed to punish people for wanting to do anything on the web. |
| 20:51.20 | Gnarfoz | sadly, they missed the target |
| 20:51.31 | Gnarfoz | instead of punishing the developers, they're punishing the users |
| 20:54.56 | Dagmar | s/users/server admins/ |
| 20:56.10 | Amarande | Unkle: well, we can toss you into that deep little corner of hell where you have to code all your CGI programs in Intercal :) |
| 20:56.35 | Unkle | Which must be edited using EDLIN. |
| 20:57.21 | Amarande | Oh no, EDLIN would be too nice |
| 20:57.25 | Amarande | you have to use COPY CON |
| 20:57.41 | Gnarfoz | Dagmar: both, tbh, except users are even more fucked since they're likely to know even less how to help themselves |
| 20:58.29 | Dagmar | Well, that would explain why they're so averse to looking at error_log |
| 20:58.58 | Dagmar | We've threatened to email that to users on an hourly basis before. Doens't help. |
| 21:07.25 | Gnarfoz | error_log's not the simplest thing to configure |
| 21:07.29 | Gnarfoz | (and I'm not even kidding) |
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| 21:15.00 | foxlit | You know what's in my error_log? Thousands of clients requesting favicon.ico, despite it not being referenced anywhere. |
| 21:15.08 | foxlit | qq! |
| 21:15.12 | Unkle | so, they're using IE! |
| 21:16.56 | durcyn | oh, if only IE was the only browser that looked for favicon.ico |
| 21:18.03 | Unkle | I know. I was just piling on the IE hate. |
| 21:27.31 | Fisker | god damnit |
| 21:27.37 | Fisker | Charles Carreon is Jack Thompson 2.0 |
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| 21:28.58 | Xavias | Hello everyone |
| 21:30.36 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: I meant php error_log; although http error log is also amusing, but at least it works something like 100% of the time |
| 21:30.52 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: also, robots.txt |
| 21:31.05 | foxlit | robots.txt at least exists |
| 21:31.29 | Gnarfoz | ( location /favicon.ico { access_log off; return 404; } ) |
| 21:31.50 | Gnarfoz | or return empty_gif; or return 444; or 204 or whatever. ;p |
| 21:38.58 | Arrowmaster | still no luck getting Vendel the Armorsmith to spawn, but hey i saw a tileset piece ive never seen before, do you have any idea how exciting that is |
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| 21:44.18 | Xavias | So I wrote an addon for keybindings that makes the list collapsible and expandable, like trade skills. This is my first addon. Trying to figure out how to get it to open when the Key Bindings button is clicked in the main menu. Is my best bet to create a new main menu button, hide the original and insert mine in its place? |
| 21:46.25 | AcidWeb | Hook OnShow of original keybind window |
| 21:46.59 | Xavias | That's a good call |
| 21:47.31 | AcidWeb | Or replace OnClick function of original button. |
| 21:47.56 | Xavias | I can't find information on how to replace OnClick |
| 21:48.05 | Xavias | or any other XML defined event |
| 21:48.26 | AcidWeb | Just overwrite it. |
| 21:49.10 | Xavias | Would I assign to OnClick, eg. KeyBindingFrame:OnClick = |
| 21:49.19 | Xavias | or menu button, etc |
| 21:49.26 | AcidWeb | menu button. |
| 21:49.49 | AcidWeb | KeyBindingFrame is a... frame. Not button that show it. |
| 21:49.57 | Xavias | Right, but functions are assignable? |
| 21:50.58 | Xavias | Bear with me.. I started digging around in the UI yesterday. :) |
| 21:51.26 | AcidWeb | NameOfButton:SetScript("OnClick", FuctionThatShowYourWindow) |
| 21:51.34 | Xavias | gotcha |
| 21:51.35 | Xavias | thanks |
| 21:51.42 | AcidWeb | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/scripts/OnClick |
| 21:52.20 | Arrowmaster | http://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/vkgxq/the_magical_bank_card_detector/ |
| 21:52.28 | AcidWeb | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/ScriptObject/SetScript |
| 22:10.47 | foxlit | "Please make all loot from raids (10 and 25 normal and heroic) individual in the same way loot from the new world bosses and Raid Finder will work in MoP. " << wouldn't that be amusing for guilds? |
| 22:11.33 | Amarande | foxlit: heh, well |
| 22:11.50 | Amarande | I imagine it would cut out a lot of intra-guild drama if everyone got a useful reward from every boss |
| 22:12.21 | Mr_Rabies | rumor has it that addons are coming soon to beta, possibly next week :O |
| 22:12.21 | Amarande | also, enhance progression since you wouldn't end up with quite so many dead weeks where you go through your farming motions and nothing of use to anyone comes of it |
| 22:12.45 | Mr_Rabies | hopefully critter combat is implemented then too |
| 22:13.04 | foxlit | release in august, then? |
| 22:14.19 | Kraps | why http://notalwaysright.com/be-discrete-on-the-receipt/21117 |
| 22:15.03 | Kraps | damn kids today wasting paper? |
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| 22:33.29 | Amarande | is there still any clear pointers to the MoP release date yet, or even for that matter 5.0? |
| 22:33.38 | Unkle | No. |
| 22:33.57 | Amarande | the only thing I've seen of note is that apparently the level 90 Brewfest gear has been created, which seems to be one of the things people are pointing to the most for August |
| 22:34.18 | Amarande | so people who don't have a caffeine instead of a blood stream will have time to hit 90 in time for Brewfest |
| 22:36.06 | Amarande | combined with the fact that apparently Pandaren love their liquor |
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| 22:41.40 | Amarande | hmm, when MoP hits, will we be able to order it from the Blizzard store on release date or will we have to wait for shipping or find time to make it out to Target or Best Buy or the such? |
| 22:44.41 | Corrodias2 | surely any company worth its stock has offered digital-only purchases for at least 2 years now |
| 22:45.11 | Amarande | Corrodias: I seem to remember at least one or two WoW expansions had a delayed digital sale from Blizzard so that physical retailers had a chance at getting their hype lines |
| 22:45.47 | Amarande | otherwise, who's going to spend their entire Monday evening hanging out around GameStop so they can be in line for a midnight release when they can just order from Blizzard at midnight, unless they want the CE? |
| 22:47.19 | Amarande | and wow ... just read about one other prediction as to why August, and it didn't even occur to me until now |
| 22:47.43 | Corrodias2 | exactly, why would we bother? |
| 22:47.49 | Corrodias2 | well, that's actiblizzrd for you |
| 22:47.50 | Amarande | I wonder if there's going to be an unusual peak in game releases in July and August this year actually now, with a very good reason why. |
| 22:48.23 | Unkle | There will be level 90 players within 10 hours of MoP going live. It won't be that hard to level. |
| 22:48.37 | foxlit | Unkle: !@#!@@!? |
| 22:49.07 | foxlit | I don't think you could do it in 10 hours legitimately. |
| 22:49.25 | Mr_Rabies | the first few are rarely really legitimate |
| 22:49.38 | Mr_Rabies | they always find ways to cheat the system somehow |
| 22:49.44 | foxlit | ban them. ban them all! |
| 22:49.47 | Amarande | yeah, usually the first few cap level players do it by having a bunch of buddies party up so they can get monsters down low faster |
| 22:49.58 | Amarande | then drop party just before the killing blow so that all the XP goes to the one player |
| 22:49.59 | Mr_Rabies | even if it's not an exploit, it's undermining the spirit of the race |
| 22:50.12 | Amarande | I *think* that's how 80 was done |
| 22:50.17 | Amarande | not sure about 85 |
| 22:50.20 | Corrodias2 | what race? |
| 22:50.21 | Unkle | I spent a lot of time futzing about, exploring, nosing about into things that shouldn't have been looked at yet, trying to figure out where professions were, etc. But I know at least 6 people right now on Kirin Tor (US) who will almost certainly be level 90 in that time frame. |
| 22:50.28 | Corrodias2 | blizzard doesn't want you to race. you jerks. |
| 22:50.40 | Amarande | Corrodias: unless they release in August |
| 22:50.42 | Corrodias2 | blizzard wants you to party up and grind grind grind |
| 22:50.49 | Amarande | in which case they'll want us to race so that Brewfest isn't a colossal failure :) |
| 22:51.03 | Corrodias2 | don't do anything UNEXPECTED, now |
| 22:51.09 | Unkle | They'll need level 90 brewfest stuff in any case. |
| 22:51.27 | Amarande | Unkle: yeah, but holiday bosses are *always* at cap level for the current expansion |
| 22:51.33 | TMc51 | how could brewfest EVER be a collasal failure? you can't have enough booze. ever. |
| 22:51.45 | Amarande | which means that if we get a late summer release, leveling will have to be lickety split so that enough people can actually be level 90 to do Coren |
| 22:52.00 | Amarande | otherwise, people will complain that barely anyone got a shot at brewfest mounts this year etc. |
| 22:52.32 | Amarande | also means that the mid-October release some predicted is a definite no |
| 22:52.34 | Amarande | reason: HH |
| 22:52.45 | TMc51 | Corren could just stay 85, and everybody can faceroll him. same with hh. |
| 22:52.53 | Amarande | TMc51: makes more sense for Coren |
| 22:52.59 | Amarande | since BRD is staying BRD |
| 22:53.10 | Amarande | Scarlet Monastery is being utterly changed |
| 22:53.19 | Unkle | For the better. |
| 22:54.01 | Amarande | Yeah, but if they're changing the instance and then will have the expansion out for the festival that involves it ... They'll want to be able to update everything for it in one go, I would imagine |
| 22:54.13 | Amarande | which means no go on mid October, then definitely nobody will be able to do HH :) |
| 22:55.12 | Amarande | As for August - that's nestled right in between two holidays with a comfy amount of time for dedicated but not caffeine-cranked players to get to 90 for a level 90 Coren |
| 22:55.28 | Amarande | and, the cruel summer hypothesis actually is something I didn't think of and is something that I wonder about now |
| 22:55.36 | Amarande | if it will not just affect WoW, but also mean we'll see a lot more summer game releases in general |
| 22:55.59 | Amarande | normally, summer game release is bad. everyone's off school etc. and the days are long and sunny and everyone wants to be outside and enjoy the season |
| 22:56.19 | Amarande | however, we're apparently supposed to get summer temperatures as bad or worse than last year for 2012 |
| 22:56.40 | Amarande | which means that summer will do exactly the reverse, with droves of potential gaming customers as people flee inside to their air conditioners |
| 22:57.11 | nilyaK1 | doesn't have AC because she lives in the rain. |
| 22:59.44 | Unkle | Must be hard on your computer equipment. All that water in the circuts. |
| 23:00.16 | Amarande | however, I think we can all agree on a word that satisfies all the reasonable predictions and which captures the spirit of Blizzard perfectly, as to when MoP will be out. |
| 23:00.21 | Amarande | "soon." |
| 23:00.26 | nilyaK1 | (tm) |
| 23:04.52 | Unkle | Ahem. "Soon^™" |
| 23:12.21 | Amarande | huh interesting: |
| 23:12.25 | Amarande | "in Mists of Pandaria, we will be “flattening” the statistic curve in places where it no longer needs to behave exponentially (primarily at the point of the end game for old expansions). In practice, this means that upon the expansion’s release, the numbers for Strength, Health, Intellect, damage, and so on will be significantly lower than you’re used to seeing across the board, from |
| 23:12.26 | Amarande | level 1 to level 85. It’s all relative, of course -- enemies’ and bosses’ stats will be reduced as well, and it should take a level-85 warrior roughly the same number of many sword-whacks and ability uses to kill a level-85 monster as it did before. However, this also means the difference between each level between 1 and 85 will be less significant" |
| 23:12.30 | Amarande | from wowpedia |
| 23:12.43 | Amarande | does this mean that the big jumps at 58-60 and 68-70 etc. are going away? |
| 23:13.02 | Stanzilla | I don't think they really did that |
| 23:13.14 | Amarande | so we'll smoothly progress from classic to outland gear and from outland to northrend gear rather than the big jump? |
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| 23:17.30 | Amarande | (Heh. Might make Ahn'Qiraj quite popular if they did, among people who would rather get the classic raid gear if the curve's flattened, than have to do Hellfire AGAIN) |
| 23:17.30 | Amarande | granted, my disdain for Hellfire probably has something to do with the fact that I almost exclusively played Horde for many years |
| 23:17.30 | foxlit | you're quoting a Blizzcon 2011 press document. |
| 23:17.30 | Amarande | it's a terrain thing. you're horde. you start out with places like Durotar, the Barrens, and Stonetalon that are mostly dominated by red rocks |
| 23:17.30 | Amarande | then the Horde leveling path used to usually take you through the lovely red rocks of Badlands, and you have to go to the red rocks of the Blasted Lands to go on to Outland |
| 23:17.30 | Amarande | so you get to Outland, by now you really want something different ... Hello there. We've heard you like red rocks. Have some more. :) |
| 23:17.30 | Stanzilla | hellow |
| 23:17.30 | Stanzilla | stop monolog please |
| 23:17.30 | Stanzilla | this is not happening :D |
| 23:17.46 | TC-Work | Welcome to a year ago Stanzilla |
| 23:18.22 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: Amarande? |
| 23:18.23 | Stanzilla | why TC-Work |
| 23:18.26 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: yes |
| 23:18.36 | TC-Work | Stanzilla: because before he left he also did the same thing |
| 23:18.41 | Gnarfoz | you can probably figure out why I asked. ;p |
| 23:18.42 | TC-Work | and graced many an /ignore list |
| 23:19.05 | TC-Work | #wowuidev == soapbox it would seem |
| 23:19.14 | Amarande | foxlit: so, did it actually come to pass, or are we still going to see giant gear leaps at 58-60, 68-70, 80, and 85? |
| 23:19.54 | Amarande | I have heard that we're getting some sort of stat scaling thing as well, so the "ye shall be as gods" impression I first got of preview MoP gear is apparently not quite right :S |
| 23:25.17 | Kraps | Hellfire is awesome idk what you're saying :| |
| 23:26.27 | Amarande | Kraps: the main gripe is that unlike all other stages (Northrend and Cata both give you two starting choices, and there's plenty of paths 1-60) you have no choice but Hellfire, and if you're horde, the terrain tends to be pretty much the same as almost every other zone you've leveled up through |
| 23:27.16 | Amarande | before Cata at least, it almost seemed like the only time you saw some green when leveling until after Hellfire, was maybe in Stranglethorn, Feralas, or Un'Goro, depending on your chosen quest path |
| 23:28.09 | Amarande | I didn't get the same feeling as Alliance, since a typical Alliance leveling zone path seems to be relatively more varied in terrain |
| 23:28.23 | Amarande | but I also barely played Alliance at all before 4.0.3 |
| 23:29.08 | Amarande | The result was that I tended to develop a particular love of the Plaguelands, Winterspring, and even Silithus before the cata changes :) |
| 23:29.55 | Amarande | as that way with the xp nerfs in effect one easily hit 62-63 or so before going to outland and then the only stuff you had to do in Hellfire was get your first gear upgrades, do whatever chain was necessary (if Horde) so you could actually do quests in Nagrand later, and then move on to Zangarmarsh, which was actually cool. :) |
| 23:30.46 | Amarande | (In fact, Zangar being a 60-64 zone, you could go straight to Zangarmarsh as Alliance - Horde still have to do that one longish chain though for the Mag'har in HFP so they can actually do Nagrand ...) |
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