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| 01:07.22 | kd3 | oh wow. the hit ratio has changed at level 90 |
| 01:07.26 | kd3 | we only need 10% hit to cap now |
| 01:08.11 | kd3 | wait, no. 6/10/14/17 |
| 01:11.01 | kd3 | that's def different than live... it's 4/5/6/17% now |
| 01:17.37 | mckenziemc | higher to compensate for no spell resists i assume |
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| 01:55.38 | TC-Work | This is my heart, it's not a to. |
| 01:55.45 | TC-Work | s/to/toy/ |
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| 02:20.45 | DigitalNoise | I have what is probably a n00b question about inheritance (at least, I think that would be the term) when it comes to defining a frame. If the command FrameName:SetPoint("BOTTOM", -1, -1) is issued (notably that the parent frame/object and parent anchor point aren't included), does it inherit the parent listed in the CreateFrame() statement? And what default anchor point does it use? |
| 02:21.11 | cogwheel | Nope, and BOTTOM |
| 02:21.23 | cogwheel | it will match whatever point you use if you don't specify a target anchor |
| 02:22.44 | cogwheel | oh and, "inheritence" has a couple specific meanings wrt. wow addons (both general OOP concept and XML frame templating). Just FYI ;) |
| 02:22.57 | cogwheel | (sp?) |
| 02:25.00 | DigitalNoise | Ok, I think I may be more confused now :) So if I don't specify a relative frame for it to anchor to, does it just anchor to itself? I'm trying to build a bar similar to one that already exists, but I'm just confused as to the actual mechanics of how it was done since no relativeframe nor relative anchor was specified (there, finally remembered the right words! :D) |
| 02:27.54 | cogwheel | oh... no i was the confused one... i took your "inherit" the wrong way. |
| 02:28.13 | cogwheel | yeah, it goes by the frame's parent |
| 02:28.25 | cogwheel | and it anchors to the parent's bottom |
| 02:29.02 | TC-Work | sounds so wrong |
| 02:29.06 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 02:29.24 | mckenziemc | your mind is so wrong |
| 02:29.26 | DigitalNoise | Ok :) I think I understand how this is working then, though it just seems so counterintutive ... LOL yes, yes it does |
| 02:29.36 | TC-Work | true, but not as bad as Unkle's |
| 02:29.46 | mckenziemc | heh |
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| 02:37.02 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: like this http://www.buy.com/prod/xbox-360-live-12-month-gold-messenger-starter-pack-includes-1-year/218861061.html ? |
| 02:37.42 | Arrowmaster | yeah but i think i got mine for cheaper |
| 02:39.44 | cogwheel | what TC-Work said re: unkle |
| 02:40.56 | TC-Work | Hey, my only excuse is he has had longer to be debased...I'm working on it. |
| 02:41.08 | cogwheel | a lot longer! |
| 02:41.12 | cogwheel | burn! |
| 02:41.12 | DigitalNoise | So this: local bottompanel = CreateFrame("Frame", nil, UIParent) / bottompanel:SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", -1, -1) / bottompanel:SetPoint("BOTTOMRIGHT", 1, -1) / bottompanel:SetHeight(13) creates a frame that is tied to the bottom of the UIParent, with the bottomleft corner set -1 (X, so left) and -1 (Y, so down) from the 0,0 axis of the UIParent bottom anchor? I guess the part that I'm somewhat |
| 02:41.12 | DigitalNoise | confused by is how the BOTTOMLEFT and BOTTOMRIGHT values end up creating a frame that stretches across the screen - I mean, it works, I'm just not sure /why/ |
| 02:41.22 | TC-Work | I dont think it is that much longer |
| 02:41.31 | TC-Work | he is what....40's? |
| 02:41.56 | cogwheel | yeah i've been alive most his life... |
| 02:42.09 | cogwheel | BUT HE'S STILL SO OLLLLLLDDDD |
| 02:42.17 | Iriel | We're all old eventually |
| 02:42.22 | cogwheel | *saves these logs for him* |
| 02:43.30 | Iriel | I think i'm regretting not seeing the start of this conversation, especially once "debased' came up |
| 02:43.40 | Arrowmaster | the man invented AOL Instant Messenger, can you get any older than that |
| 02:43.58 | Iriel | DigitalNoise: because it pins the bottom left corner of your frame near the bottom left corner of its parent, and vice versa the Bottom right |
| 02:45.04 | Iriel | s/vice versa/similarly/ |
| 02:45.43 | DigitalNoise | Oh, ok - so if the relativeanchor isn't definied in the setpoint, does it just automatically use the same anchor point specified for the frame? |
| 02:46.01 | Iriel | Yup |
| 02:46.13 | Iriel | since most of the time that's what you'd want |
| 02:47.01 | DigitalNoise | And I'm sorry about the spelling - I'm really tired. Awesome, ok, I think I understand how that's working now. Yes, and now I understand what the original author was getting at when he wrote it that way. I'm hacking apart his ui and customizing it, but I just didn't understand the why's of how that worked - thank you! |
| 02:47.25 | Iriel | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Region/SetPoint |
| 02:47.51 | Iriel | The reference materials on wowprogramming are a great resource if you're trying to figure out code you dont know |
| 02:49.35 | DigitalNoise | I had actually read both that and the wowwiki article on it as well, but it just didn't click for some reason. |
| 02:49.42 | DigitalNoise | Until now |
| 02:51.31 | cogwheel | References don't make it easy to pick up high level concepts |
| 02:52.16 | DigitalNoise | Yeah - I learn by doing most of the time. And, this is my first exposure to really editing LUA; it's the only way to configure this UI so... time to learn. |
| 02:52.31 | cogwheel | have you done any programming before? |
| 02:52.48 | Arrowmaster | looks for krka |
| 02:53.03 | TC-Work | he stopped doing that Arrowmaster |
| 02:53.09 | Arrowmaster | hes not even here |
| 02:53.16 | TC-Work | too many people were saying 'LUA' |
| 02:53.27 | TC-Work | he was admitted to a mental hospital |
| 02:53.43 | Arrowmaster | that was Adys |
| 02:54.00 | TC-Work | yes, but Adys was released already |
| 02:54.43 | Adys | hilarious |
| 02:54.46 | DigitalNoise | cogwheel: yes, some. Daily is SQL, PL/SQL, T-SQL, but I've also had exposure to basic scripting, JS, VB (6), COBOL - but it's been a very long time and most of what I knew I've forgotten if I don't use it daily. |
| 02:54.48 | Adys | I just get bugged by people saying PHP |
| 02:55.18 | TC-Work | you get bugged by people breathing |
| 02:55.27 | kd3 | don't we all? |
| 02:55.36 | TC-Work | I have headphones |
| 02:55.52 | Arrowmaster | i dont leave the house unless i have to |
| 02:56.03 | TC-Work | to go pick up another CE? |
| 02:56.05 | Adys | I don't leave the house unless it's on fire |
| 02:56.21 | Adys | if I need a CE, I get it delivered |
| 02:56.27 | Adys | if i need it signed, i get the guy invited |
| 02:56.42 | Adys | the diablo dev ama is really good |
| 02:56.47 | Corrodias2 | sex works the same way |
| 02:57.35 | Adys | We discussed putting caps on. At the end of the day we decided that life steal is a stat that can, someday, let you feel like you break the game, and putting a cap on things would just be keeping you from attaining that feeling. |
| 02:57.36 | Adys | haha |
| 02:57.39 | Arrowmaster | i figured the ama would suck with everybody asking why inferno champ packs are so stupidly hard |
| 02:57.48 | Adys | well |
| 02:57.58 | Adys | it was awesome that they posted the 1.0.3 design notes right before |
| 02:58.00 | cogwheel | the book that goes along with wowprogramming.com starts off with a Lua primer, covers fundamental UI concepts, and has several chapters on advanced features of the API. Might keep it in mind if you think you'll be spending a lot of time hacking addons (full disclosure: i co-authored the first edition and contributed to the 2nd) |
| 02:58.05 | cogwheel | DigitalNoise: ^ |
| 02:58.21 | Adys | That point where your archon goes from 25 seconds to INFINITE. Yay! That point where your life per hit is completely mitigating all incoming damage. That point where you have enough crit to perma-CC all non-elite monsters with certain builds. |
| 02:58.24 | Adys | I love this guy |
| 02:58.46 | Arrowmaster | one of those was already nerfed |
| 02:58.48 | Adys | One of the things that absorbs a lot of mental energy is trying to create that feeling that you "broke the game". No level requirements on gems and Reduced Level Requirements going as high as 18 are two examples of this. I love things that make the player feel like they broke the game (as long as it is, in the grand scheme of things, not going to ruin it). |
| 02:58.49 | Adys | fuck |
| 02:58.53 | Adys | get this guy hired on WoW |
| 03:00.51 | DigitalNoise | cogwheel: it's actually on my purchase list next payday. I know parts are available online, but I think this is one of those things a paper book would be good for. |
| 03:01.13 | Arrowmaster | i thought it was hardcover |
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| 03:02.45 | DigitalNoise | lol |
| 03:03.05 | TC-Work | It's also good to keep a table from rocking back and forth |
| 03:03.09 | cogwheel | yeah..... then it would have to be like $65 >< |
| 03:03.28 | cogwheel | and that. it's already like 50lbs |
| 03:03.50 | Arrowmaster | dont know why i thought it was hardcover |
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| 03:11.15 | DigitalNoise | If the TOP edge is defined, does SetHeight() actually do anything? (it doesn't seem to be doing so, that's why I'm asking - I removed it completely and the height still didn't change) |
| 03:12.29 | Adys | P.S. - there's a lock action bar option coming in the future. |
| 03:12.29 | Adys | well |
| 03:12.31 | Adys | thank god. |
| 03:13.06 | cogwheel | DigitalNoise: are both top and bottom defined? that might be making it ignore the height |
| 03:15.46 | DigitalNoise | No, just the TOP, LEFT, and RIGHT edges which are tied to the initial frame. Quick explanation: It's a backdrop bar (main) that has a sub-bar for XP, restXP, and rep inside of it. I've gotten the XP bar to span the entire width of the backdrop bar with what you helped me to understand earlier, now I'm just trying to make it a bit thicker, but the SetHeight() doesn't seem to have any effect. |
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| 03:16.37 | DigitalNoise | Hmmm, I guess I could set the bottom edge with a negative Y to set the thickness instead |
| 03:18.58 | DigitalNoise | That worked. I guess SetHeight() always grows in the positive Y, and if a top edge is defined, it can't go past it no matter what value is set? |
| 03:24.01 | mikma | http://www.rlslog.net/zoolander-2001-720p-bluray-x264-sinners/ |
| 03:25.28 | DigitalNoise | Can I use a call like GetWatchedFactionInfo() in a SetPoint so that if yes, it uses one set of values, if no it uses something else? I've seen this done with SetHeight(), but I'm not sure what the syntax would be with SetPoint or if it's possible. |
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| 03:28.12 | Iriel | DigitalNoise: yes, you can, though obviously it takes the value at the time it was called |
| 03:28.28 | Iriel | DigitalNoise: do if you want to track the value you have to use an event handler to call it when it updates |
| 03:30.31 | DigitalNoise | Iriel: Well, previously this worked: xpBar:SetHeight(GetWatchedFactionInfo() and 7 or 14) - and worked just fine. But since I'm now having to define the heigh of my bar as the bottom edge, I tried to do |
| 03:31.00 | DigitalNoise | xpBar:SetPoint(GetWatchedFactionInfo() and "BOTTOM", backdrop, "TOP", 0, -6 or "BOTTOM", backdrop, "TOP", 0, -13) but that didn't work. I think it's just a syntax issue |
| 03:49.03 | DigitalNoise | I'm thinking I just need to roll the SetPoint into an IF function in order to set the offset - no combination that I've tried has worked. |
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| 04:10.04 | Adys | WHAT |
| 04:10.04 | Adys | http://blog.linkedin.com/2012/06/06/linkedin-member-passwords-compromised/ |
| 04:10.08 | Adys | It is worth noting that the affected members who update their passwords and members whose passwords have not been compromised benefit from the enhanced security we just recently put in place, which includes hashing and salting of our current password databases. |
| 04:10.10 | Adys | WHAT THE FUCK |
| 04:10.16 | Adys | This wasnt already the case on LINKEDIN? |
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| 04:10.38 | kd3 | I'd assume that'd be the reaction of most users of linkedin at this point |
| 04:10.43 | kd3 | is still rather annoyed |
| 04:11.05 | kd3 | even though I just hit generate in keepass and did some copy/pasting, grr |
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| 04:14.55 | Adys | that is fucking it |
| 04:14.59 | Adys | closing my LI acc |
| 04:16.14 | TC-Work | isnt that rather like closing the gate after the [instert farm animal here] has left? |
| 04:16.35 | Adys | i dont care about it |
| 04:16.40 | Adys | my pw on there was autogenerated |
| 04:16.42 | Adys | % pw linkedin.com |
| 04:16.42 | Adys | ba1+72bdb++3ab |
| 04:21.24 | kd3 | >.<; US Navy reports that fire on nuclear sub USS Miami that caused $400 million in damage was started by a vacuum cleaner. Oh god, I have one of those in my house [Asinine] |
| 04:23.06 | Kaylin | Interestingly, if you never pick up/clean your house, it will become a fire hazard. |
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| 04:49.37 | Dagmar | This is wrong and I apologize, but... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF_nfazQaek |
| 04:49.52 | Dagmar | So... so very wrong. Especially wrong at 1:22. |
| 04:52.20 | Dagmar | I think it maxes out at 2:00 to 2:09. You have to watch carefully or you'll miss it. |
| 05:30.40 | pompy | idk if theres an approval process on that site but fail them for accepting the photo with the ppls names that liked it not scratched out http://lolzparade.com/tech/facebook-status-fails?v=RA82NmHD2a4GaLhcNAmnCA8fdr3pBt2SlcCd-XsS7iuw8ejkHlSFwBbqW20Tb3Uc-D8opnIUBfmmG45OAkffcg&page=8 |
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| 05:38.38 | tem | wizard-only hat |
| 05:38.41 | tem | monk skill bonus |
| 05:38.44 | tem | wat. |
| 05:39.11 | Thunder_Child | random is random |
| 05:41.11 | Fisker | Adys atleast he goes on to preach about "account security best practices" |
| 05:41.44 | ccox | WHo the @#$%@#$% thought it necessary to put up a "Buy Diablo III" button while I'm waiting for @#$%@#$% Diablo III to launch? |
| 05:42.03 | Fisker | you seem mad |
| 05:42.55 | karl_w_w | Fisker when is mists being released? |
| 05:43.01 | Fisker | when isn't it? |
| 05:43.29 | Fisker | 9/11 karl_w_w |
| 05:43.30 | karl_w_w | tomorrow |
| 05:43.31 | mckenziemc | karl_w_w: when Fisker is stopped |
| 05:49.15 | Thunder_Child | ccox: Canadians |
| 06:04.27 | arton | bacon! |
| 06:04.41 | Jamash | I'M HOME |
| 06:04.46 | Jamash | I'm never leaving my house again |
| 06:04.58 | Jamash | have everything I like brought here |
| 06:05.16 | arton | I never want to go to the city again. |
| 06:05.40 | arton | Yeah I'm a recluse too, bro. |
| 06:05.51 | arton | hifives. |
| 06:06.22 | Jamash | I just got back from indianapolis, denver, newark, new york city, newark again, atlanta and indianapolis, in that order |
| 06:06.42 | Jamash | not denver |
| 06:06.44 | arton | Run Forest. |
| 06:06.45 | Jamash | that other city |
| 06:06.48 | Jamash | detroit |
| 06:06.52 | Jamash | they both start with "d" |
| 06:06.56 | arton | lol |
| 06:07.07 | karl_w_w | dunstable? |
| 06:07.16 | Jamash | damnesia |
| 06:09.44 | Sintacks | fuck the kings |
| 06:11.21 | karl_w_w | i cant think of a lot of places starting with D |
| 06:11.41 | pompy | Jamash: thats a lot of traveling |
| 06:11.42 | karl_w_w | Dallas and DiegocommaSan |
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| 06:15.53 | arton | I ain't no chicken hen. |
| 06:16.12 | arton | cheep cheep |
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| 06:20.24 | Jamash | well, detroit and atlanta were just airport layovers |
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| 06:34.59 | Mr_Rabies | merely a setback? |
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| 07:25.07 | zenzelezz | man, I so recognise myself doing this... http://imgur.com/QfSWS |
| 07:26.20 | arton | just add cake and it's a birthday party! |
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| 08:10.18 | Antze | any native English speaker around here who could tell me what "keyboard turner" means in this context? http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2012/june/2012-06-04-313.jpg |
| 08:10.26 | Antze | or maybe not-so-native |
| 08:11.46 | Antze | request withdrawn due to the Almighty Urban Dictionary |
| 08:12.05 | Antze | guess it should be "yes" in the pic then |
| 08:15.30 | Humbedooh | Antze, http://www.darklegacycomics.com/87.html :> |
| 08:21.36 | clever | Antze: he has 331 addons installed and still asks for damage meter posts?..... |
| 08:22.01 | Antze | hello kitty ui design? |
| 08:22.15 | clever | maybe :P |
| 08:24.09 | clever | Antze: 259 on DLC is also great |
| 08:24.20 | clever | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/259.html |
| 08:25.37 | karl_w_w | Antze: uses the keyboard to turn |
| 08:26.07 | Antze | yeah, I already said that I withdraw my request |
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| 08:26.30 | Antze | but I'm still wondering why this image of a bad player has "no" in there |
| 08:26.38 | Antze | because not being a keyboard turner seems to be good |
| 08:27.15 | Jamash | clever: spent 30 seconds wondering what dark legacy comics has to do with downloadable content |
| 08:27.33 | Antze | maybe they meant that he's a pvp fan who are not welcome in raids but it's strange since in raids you also need to turn fast |
| 08:27.35 | clever | Jamash: :D |
| 08:27.42 | Antze | yes, same here, with DLC |
| 08:28.19 | Jamash | aaand, sleep |
| 08:28.52 | clever | Antze: #33, ouch! |
| 08:29.34 | clever | something must be wrong with that random button, it put me at 258 already, lol |
| 08:31.26 | clever | #90, so true! |
| 08:31.52 | clever | repair is the best profession of them all, sadly no player can train it! :P |
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| 09:30.46 | bluspacecow | Cairenn|afk: http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/525905_3282382309730_1063120705_n.jpg |
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| 10:25.04 | bluspacecow | woot |
| 10:25.12 | nilyaK | nou |
| 10:25.18 | bluspacecow | sold something for 13387 on D3 |
| 10:25.34 | nilyaK | onice |
| 10:25.43 | bluspacecow | too bad I dunno what the stats aon it were |
| 10:25.56 | nilyaK | unid or just forgot? |
| 10:26.16 | bluspacecow | didn't check what it was before selling it |
| 10:26.23 | bluspacecow | "lucky defense" |
| 10:26.53 | nilyaK | spreads a rumor that bluspacecow hacks accounts and uses a script to sell items for random amounts. |
| 10:27.01 | bluspacecow | nou |
| 10:29.28 | bluspacecow | i base it on how big the main stat is and what level is |
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| 10:33.19 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 10:33.29 | bluspacecow | oh hai |
| 10:33.44 | randomDude | derp |
| 10:35.24 | nilyaK | herps. |
| 10:52.52 | karl_w_w | anyone remember a microsoft blog post somewhere, probably a couple of months ago now, talking about how metro actually works in windows 8 and how it has advanced or some crap? |
| 10:58.27 | Fisker | probably the building windows 8 blog |
| 10:58.46 | Fisker | can imagine anyone else saying metro actually works |
| 11:00.01 | karl_w_w | http://www.winsupersite.com/article/windows8/windows-8-secrets-winrt-windows-runtime-142196 |
| 11:00.03 | bluspacecow | fiskery fisker |
| 11:01.37 | karl_w_w | bluspacecow |
| 11:01.41 | karl_w_w | can I kill Fisker? |
| 11:01.52 | bluspacecow | i dunno |
| 11:02.00 | Fisker | you can't |
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| 12:19.34 | bluspacecow | http://www.loadingartist.com/2011/01/10/programming/ |
| 12:19.36 | bluspacecow | lol |
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| 12:41.51 | Fisker | want some porn bluspacecow ? |
| 12:41.59 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 12:42.37 | Lopeppeppy | From you? |
| 12:43.19 | Fisker | well if that is his wish |
| 12:43.48 | Lopeppeppy | Please don't wish for it! |
| 12:53.52 | Fisker | why not? |
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| 13:05.07 | Adys | EU diablo players able to log in? |
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| 13:30.14 | pompy | http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/428418_10151809869220013_2017659953_n.jpg :O! |
| 13:33.30 | Kalroth | kinky |
| 13:33.43 | Adys | http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/upd18/what_really_bugs_me_about_d3_and_it_is_really/c4xeocl |
| 13:35.56 | Kalroth | Adys: its true |
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| 13:52.29 | Stanzilla | that is soo funny to read http://input.mozilla.org/en-US/?product=firefox&version=13.0&date_start=2012-06-05&date_end=2012-06-06&q=new+tab |
| 13:53.48 | karl_w_w | funny how |
| 13:53.53 | Stanzilla | just read it |
| 13:54.00 | Stanzilla | or that http://input.mozilla.org/en-US/opinion/2981830 |
| 13:54.53 | Adys | I wish chrome would do LOD tabs |
| 13:55.39 | karl_w_w | i dont understand |
| 13:55.50 | karl_w_w | what are load on demand tabs |
| 13:56.05 | Adys | karl_w_w: when restoring a session, you get a bunch of tabs opened at the same time |
| 13:56.13 | Adys | LOD tabs don't load the tabs until you open the tabs |
| 13:56.26 | karl_w_w | ah yeah |
| 13:58.09 | Stanzilla | basicly if you read their meeting log https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Planning/2012-06-06 |
| 13:58.25 | Stanzilla | everything looks like FX13 is a huge failure |
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| 14:09.10 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 14:09.23 | Fisker | would you stop verairbeitunging my order? |
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| 14:12.34 | Arrowmaster | TC-Work: did you know about this? http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/uou6z/update_i_was_requested_to_compile_all_of_the/c4x9gef |
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| 14:39.09 | alestane | "This item's name is too long for the Recycle Bin. Do you want to permanently delete it?" |
| 14:39.33 | alestane | Has to be one of the most arbitrary, nonsensical system limitations I've seen. |
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| 14:45.24 | Cide | true story |
| 14:48.58 | Cide | dear kde |
| 14:49.10 | Cide | you're not forgetting about audio devices if you remember to ask me about forgetting them every fucking reboot |
| 14:49.31 | karl_w_w | what is this "reboot" you speak of? |
| 14:49.54 | Cide | it's what cool kids do when they wanna use linux and play games |
| 14:50.24 | karl_w_w | i thought linux was a game |
| 14:52.53 | bluspacecow | i thought it was a gay porn video |
| 14:53.58 | karl_w_w | it has the time investment, advantage to the skilled and experienced, reward for success, but ultimately it's not a productive use of time |
| 14:54.11 | karl_w_w | it's positive over other game is that it's free to play |
| 14:54.25 | karl_w_w | games* |
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| 15:06.24 | alestane | http://w00t.chaobell.net/20030118.html |
| 15:08.25 | alestane | Anyone know if there's away to see the contents of another shell running under the same account? |
| 15:08.51 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 15:09.06 | Arrowmaster | not unless you do some weird shit like examining the memory of the shell |
| 15:09.44 | alestane | I sort of suspected that this was not something commonly done. |
| 15:10.02 | Arrowmaster | well it kinda is commonly done |
| 15:10.09 | alestane | Fellow just started yum running from a local login session, then wants to know how he can see the progress from home. |
| 15:10.11 | Arrowmaster | you use screen or tmux ahead of time though |
| 15:10.25 | Unkle | Can't you attach to currnently open sessions? (honest question, I've never tried, and I don't live in Linux ) |
| 15:10.34 | alestane | Not as simple as "viewing the screen remotely." |
| 15:11.09 | Arrowmaster | if you wanted to view what was being shown you can try inspecting the vty it running on i think |
| 15:11.38 | Arrowmaster | again, screen or tmux being run first is the best solution so teach this guy about them |
| 15:15.22 | Torhal|work | Unkle: This, as for your question about attaching to sessions. |
| 15:19.31 | cogwheel | yay 256gb SSDs are reaching below $200 |
| 15:19.44 | cogwheel | (crucial m4 on amazon) |
| 15:21.19 | pompy | yay |
| 15:22.06 | Unkle | Oh man, might be time to get me one of those bad boys. |
| 15:22.19 | pompy | dafaq |
| 15:22.20 | Unkle | SSD for main partition? Yes plx. |
| 15:22.21 | pompy | (6/7/2012 11:18:46 AM) Repo: simplestantispam: lurkerrr 2.1.1 * 92dc032 /: [new tag] 2.1.12.1.12.1.12.1.12.1.12.1.12.1.12.1.12.1.12.1.12.1.12.1.12.1.12.1.12.1.12.1.12.1.12.1.12.1.12.1.12.1.12.1.1 |
| 15:23.55 | Torhal|work | pompy: Dafuq? |
| 15:24.27 | bluspacecow | oh hai2u Torhaly Torhal |
| 15:24.33 | pompy | yeah that Torhal|work |
| 15:24.49 | Torhal|work | pompy: No, I was asking dafuq about you asking if I was at home on MSN. |
| 15:25.02 | Torhal|work | I did so here so you'd see my nick clearly states where I am. |
| 15:25.13 | bluspacecow | your at work |
| 15:25.17 | bluspacecow | at the local bar |
| 15:25.44 | Torhal|work | goes all MOLTEN VORTEX JAILER on bluspacecow. |
| 15:25.52 | pompy | nothankyou |
| 15:25.53 | bluspacecow | XD |
| 15:25.57 | bluspacecow | i deds nows |
| 15:30.33 | Unkle | MOLTEN FIRECHAINS VORTEX FAST |
| 15:30.55 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:30.58 | bluspacecow | sadist :) |
| 15:31.59 | durcyn | you forgot shielding arcane frozen plagued. |
| 15:32.10 | Unkle | Raiding is cutting into my DIII time. |
| 15:32.11 | pompy | cogwheel: http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-2-5-Inch-Solid-State-CT256M4SSD2/dp/B004W2JL2A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339082827&sr=8-1 $196 atm .. was $179.99 yesterday, damnn. |
| 15:32.13 | pompy | http://camelcamelcamel.com/Crucial-2-5-Inch-Solid-State-CT256M4SSD2/product/B004W2JL2A |
| 15:33.08 | cogwheel | pompy: yeah i saw that yesterday |
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| 16:03.32 | Unkle | Wow. Forum software filters STFU. |
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| 16:19.40 | Adys | <Arrowmaster> not unless you do some weird shit like examining the memory of the shell |
| 16:19.51 | Adys | isnt it possible to get its stdin/out ? |
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| 16:19.54 | Adys | from procfs |
| 16:20.10 | Arrowmaster | yeah but you wouldnt get any of the past stuff |
| 16:20.22 | Adys | of course |
| 16:20.23 | Adys | also |
| 16:20.30 | Adys | some terminal emulators save their shit in /tmp |
| 16:20.59 | Arrowmaster | if its something like a progress bar being displayed, it will probably look completely messed up without starting from the beginning |
| 16:21.53 | Adys | not if you read it from another terminal emulator |
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| 16:30.56 | Adys | hm |
| 16:31.02 | Adys | commodities arent selling |
| 16:31.27 | pompy | they are also showing up under the bids section and they are expired >< |
| 16:31.45 | Unkle | DIII Commodoties Trading: Pork Bellys are up, Wheat is down. |
| 16:38.25 | Arrowmaster | its funny how their commodities trading ended up being a little too real, peopled did the same thing they do with the stock market and kept requesting new quotes every few seconds trying to get the best deal |
| 16:39.17 | foxlit | meh, should've went with server-resolved buy orders. |
| 16:39.47 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 16:39.56 | foxlit | but they're shooting themselves in that foot again |
| 16:39.57 | Arrowmaster | and they could have ate any gold left over too |
| 16:40.03 | foxlit | by allowing you to cancel in-progress auctions. |
| 16:40.21 | foxlit | that's totally going to make for an amusing cancel-relist-cancel-relist dance. |
| 16:40.35 | Arrowmaster | you could always cancel in progress commodity auctions |
| 16:40.38 | Unkle | Anyone ever played "Pit" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_%28game%29) |
| 16:40.45 | foxlit | items too, now. |
| 16:40.45 | pompy | Arrowmaster: for the first 5 mins |
| 16:40.49 | foxlit | er, er, soon |
| 16:40.51 | Arrowmaster | pompy: no thats for items |
| 16:40.51 | pompy | now its without a timer |
| 16:40.55 | pompy | ah |
| 16:41.38 | Arrowmaster | items have a 5 minute delay before being listed and could be canceled before that 5 minutes was up, commodities were listed instantly and could be canceled at any time |
| 16:42.09 | foxlit | point is, they're getting rid of the cancel-related distinction. |
| 16:42.25 | foxlit | so you'll eventually be able to cancel item auctions too. |
| 16:42.26 | pompy | well thats what items will be doing as well |
| 16:42.32 | pompy | ^ |
| 16:43.18 | Arrowmaster | for non level 60 items, its really needed |
| 16:43.21 | pompy | "Blizzard are considering adding the RMAH to Hardcore mode." |
| 16:43.41 | foxlit | more like "will consider" |
| 16:45.04 | pompy | "The Auction House has no effect on drop rates. They are actually tuned for players that will never use the Auction House. |
| 16:45.05 | pompy | The game was tuned without the Auction House because there weren't enough players to make it work during internal testing." |
| 16:45.06 | pompy | hm |
| 16:45.30 | Dagmar | Fuck that excuse |
| 16:45.45 | Dagmar | SImple math would have been able to predict the excess of gems and pages |
| 16:46.00 | foxlit | there's no excess of gems? |
| 16:46.04 | Dagmar | I'd respect them more if they just said "We're fixing it". |
| 16:46.53 | Dagmar | foxlit: While the commodity thing WAS working, you could regularly buy gems 1) that were cheaper than what it costs to combine shards, as well as gems that were a tier or three higher than the best you could get in your current mode |
| 16:46.58 | foxlit | also, I don't think the issue you're highlighting is the issue people are complaining about |
| 16:47.06 | pompy | Dagmar: to be fair i think thats just a user created list paraphrased from blizz posts |
| 16:47.14 | Dagmar | Ah okay |
| 16:47.22 | foxlit | they're responding to "You made gear drops shit to force us to use the AH" |
| 16:47.30 | pompy | it was from the reddit qa |
| 16:47.32 | pompy | http://www.diablofans.com/news/1236-diablo-iii-developer-amaa-update-on-auction-house-commodity-sales-working-on-us-servers-account-security-alert-linkedin/ |
| 16:47.33 | Dagmar | Oh.. Okay. Wholly different problem there. |
| 16:47.51 | Dagmar | I've not had time to really sit on it to try and divine WTF they did, but the drops really are shit |
| 16:48.12 | Dagmar | I shouldn't still be seeing level bloody 19 drops at level 38 |
| 16:49.06 | foxlit | and yet the gear progression up to inferno works. |
| 16:49.07 | pompy | "In a future patch bosses will give better loot the first time you kill them in a higher difficulty (not going to be in 1.0.3)." |
| 16:49.21 | Dagmar | Coupled with that apparently all those negligible seconday stats seem to have the same chance of being on items as str/dex/int, the result is a crapton of shit in my bags |
| 16:49.33 | foxlit | [by which I mean you usually aren't hampered by the lack of drops.] |
| 16:49.41 | Dagmar | foxlit: I have not seen a drop I could actually use in about 20 levels now |
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| 16:49.49 | Dagmar | Just tons of crap. |
| 16:50.04 | foxlit | 38, that's what, act 2 nightmare? |
| 16:50.09 | Dagmar | Yeah |
| 16:50.21 | pompy | "There will only be Arena in the PvP patch." |
| 16:50.36 | foxlit | mm, you're coming off those hidden nephalem-valor boss drops in normal difficulty. |
| 16:50.45 | Dagmar | It's a bit TOO damn random since I'm just basically expecting dex/vit and anything else that's not "makes you swing like a girl" |
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| 16:51.38 | Dagmar | ...and it's not dropping. Three times I've seen dex/vit but it's as likely to have +str as well or generally be havin' a minimum requirement of level 23. |
| 16:52.32 | Dagmar | So like, I'm hitting the AH each night and basically getting nowhere because everything seems to be getting sold for 50,000-100,000 and higher, and slogging through mobs and additionally getting nowhere because of the crap drops |
| 16:52.35 | foxlit | if you're melee, you probably shouldn't mind +str too much |
| 16:52.40 | Dagmar | i.e., usable gear is too damn rare |
| 16:52.53 | foxlit | if you're ranged, don't bother too much with +vit. |
| 16:52.54 | Dagmar | I don't see strength helping monks much |
| 16:53.03 | foxlit | +str=+armor, basically |
| 16:53.08 | Dagmar | Uh... No +vit makes a mage very squisshy |
| 16:53.20 | Dagmar | For monks, +dex=armor |
| 16:53.25 | Unkle | Nightmare was pretty crappy for drops, but Hell cranks out lots of interesting goodies for my Witch Doctor. Not great, but good. |
| 16:53.27 | Dagmar | Dex is your new God as a monk |
| 16:53.39 | pompy | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35894760/Screenshot016.jpg i got that to drop, pretty solid piece i think |
| 16:53.42 | foxlit | talent conversions, doesn't matter. point is, +str is +armor for everyone. |
| 16:53.59 | Dagmar | i had to make Opheria get +vit on her gear because she was carping at me to heal her and basically, by the time I'd see her HP drop, she was about dead |
| 16:54.22 | foxlit | needs more life on hit or regenerates life. |
| 16:54.48 | Dagmar | Yeah I didn't care how she got it just as long as she was having some more hit points |
| 16:55.09 | Dagmar | It was Dimond Skin or Road Pizza without at least the +vit |
| 16:56.37 | Dagmar | So, now I'm 38 and basically in a very similar boat since I can't get usable gear to drop unless I blow 80-100k per piece (which is a bit unrealistic at that level, even with magic find at 93% and farming outdoor areas) |
| 16:56.47 | pompy | aaaand |
| 16:56.52 | pompy | anyone use last.fm? |
| 16:56.53 | pompy | http://www.last.fm/passwordsecurity |
| 16:56.55 | Dagmar | er can't get usable gear to drop and can't BUY it without 80-100k apiecew |
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| 16:57.21 | Dagmar | pompy: Oh fuck! Someone will find out someone else listens to Justin Bieber. |
| 16:57.29 | pompy | '!! |
| 16:57.39 | pompy | the biebs |
| 16:57.40 | foxlit | Farm more caves! :) |
| 16:57.59 | Dagmar | ...although the idea someone might login using someone elses account and set thigns up so they get a shitload of polka is equally amusing |
| 16:58.25 | Dagmar | foxlit: That graph that's been floating around, I'm definitely stuck in the trench end of it |
| 16:59.14 | foxlit | Sounds really odd. I managed to play a wizard up to 60 without involving the AH too much. |
| 16:59.33 | foxlit | Is the lack of gear actually a progression problem, though? Do things kill you? |
| 16:59.42 | Arrowmaster | i got my wizard to 60 by only getting 2 weapons from the AH |
| 17:00.08 | pompy | foxlit: id say so, ask Torhal|work :D |
| 17:00.13 | Arrowmaster | one was a 52 and the other was a 60 weapon |
| 17:00.52 | foxlit | you exploited your way to 60, yeah? :) |
| 17:01.02 | Arrowmaster | did not |
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| 17:01.11 | foxlit | how many nerfs? :P |
| 17:01.16 | Arrowmaster | i only started using crit mass at 59 |
| 17:01.47 | Arrowmaster | and they nerfed force armor a day after i got it |
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| 17:05.26 | pompy | Unkle: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151803273410131&set=a.10150303260090131.563831.353851465130&type=1 wow :D |
| 17:07.13 | Unkle | pompy: That's cool and all, but… I'll wait until the cost is low enough that we can send 4 people in that space to reduce the murder rate. |
| 17:09.24 | Torhal|work | foxlit: It Inferno I absolutely had to shop the AH. |
| 17:09.45 | Torhal|work | And now that I have, I hit Act II and am once again being one-shot by non-elites. |
| 17:09.53 | foxlit | Yes. Act 1 drops are silly, and that's from someone with 300% magic find. |
| 17:10.25 | Torhal|work | So I'm now between farming Hell Act IV and Inferno Act I…for money to shop the AH. |
| 17:10.28 | pompy | Unkle: well hopefully thats not the case |
| 17:10.29 | Dagmar | How the *fuck* do you get it that high? |
| 17:10.30 | foxlit | getting one-shot by non-elite ponies is more fun, though |
| 17:10.30 | foxlit | |
| 17:10.53 | foxlit | Dagmar: MF on nearly every slot and 5x15% from Nephalem Valor. |
| 17:10.55 | Torhal|work | Dagmar: Kill shit. Loot. Sell. Rinse and repeat. |
| 17:11.03 | Torhal|work | Oh |
| 17:11.09 | Torhal|work | Wrong connotation. |
| 17:11.13 | Dagmar | Ahh okay the valor stuff I haven't even touched yet then |
| 17:11.13 | bluspacecow | *clicks AH button* oh hey my autions are selling for lots *realizes its the recommened gear on AH page*:( |
| 17:11.30 | Torhal|work | NV is 15% Magic/gold find per stack and it stacks to 5 |
| 17:11.36 | Dagmar | I've got MF on all the stuff but it just doesn't stack that high in the mids |
| 17:11.52 | foxlit | 15% / slot is easy |
| 17:12.03 | Dagmar | Not at level 38. |
| 17:12.06 | foxlit | can get like 35% from helm. |
| 17:12.06 | Dagmar | heh |
| 17:12.10 | foxlit | well, yes, obviously not at 38. |
| 17:12.18 | foxlit | but the again, you're only 38 once :P |
| 17:12.32 | pompy | wish i didnt have to repair at like every 5th or 6th death! |
| 17:12.58 | Arrowmaster | yes they need to remove the stupid wow like 'just being in combat damages equipment' |
| 17:13.13 | pompy | oh and the revive timer |
| 17:13.19 | pompy | the ever increasing! |
| 17:13.56 | pompy | and that when you are spawning with the timeout till you are actually in the world, your like follower should also follow that! however hes in the world before you and the monsters are already attacking him! |
| 17:14.18 | foxlit | meh, repairs are fine, mostly |
| 17:14.24 | foxlit | the checkpoint system is sometimes stupid. |
| 17:14.32 | pompy | yes it is |
| 17:14.38 | Dagmar | s/stupid/ruthless and cruel/ |
| 17:14.43 | foxlit | die in whimsyshire, get ressed at tristram. Thanks! |
| 17:14.58 | pompy | the broken teleporter for the road to alcarnus quest was frustrating! heh |
| 17:15.23 | Torhal|work | pompy: They fixed it? I didn't notice since I can't do anything in Act II. |
| 17:15.26 | Dagmar | Logout at the wrong time, log back in, quest marker gone, large outdoor zone needing clearing... again. |
| 17:15.42 | Dagmar | ...all because you said "I'll click on the NPC to turn the quest in in the morning" |
| 17:15.42 | Torhal|work | Oh, look! A Lacuni huntress! *WHAM-dead* |
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| 17:15.48 | foxlit | Torhal|Work: unless melee, go for public games? |
| 17:16.10 | Torhal|work | foxlit: I'd like to progress on my own, though. |
| 17:16.14 | Stanzilla | Torhal|work: are you on inferno act2 or hell? |
| 17:16.19 | Torhal|work | Stanzilla: Inferno. |
| 17:16.21 | pompy | Dagmar: nah wasnt that |
| 17:16.22 | Stanzilla | good |
| 17:16.43 | pompy | Torhal|work: no i dont think they fixed it, unsure though. |
| 17:16.46 | foxlit | I think everything boils down to having enough DPS to ignore things |
| 17:16.51 | Arrowmaster | i need to get back to d3 but ive just been so busy |
| 17:16.56 | Dagmar | foxlit: Dodge works too |
| 17:17.05 | foxlit | +movement speed is good, too. "Fast" affix is a joke now |
| 17:17.15 | Torhal|work | Shit, I actually got RID of DPS to do better in Act I. |
| 17:17.16 | Dagmar | I have to get a bunch of undodgeable shit before I get into trouble |
| 17:17.42 | Torhal|work | With Force Armor, I have 1928 life/sec |
| 17:17.51 | Torhal|work | That worked splendidly in Act I. |
| 17:17.51 | foxlit | that seems like a lot. |
| 17:17.58 | Dagmar | Giant meteor... dodged. Flame trap... dodged. Nasty purple lasers? *burning smell* |
| 17:18.11 | Torhal|work | I have no life/sec in Act II due to one-shottage. |
| 17:19.03 | foxlit | what's your actual health pool? |
| 17:19.57 | foxlit | belial is just cruelty on Inferno. Not even belial himself, but those bazillion snake adds in a confined space. |
| 17:21.14 | Torhal|work | foxlit: ROughly 51k |
| 17:21.53 | foxlit | That is also a lot. You should not be getting one-shot. |
| 17:22.16 | Torhal|work | The Lacuni huntresses just maul me |
| 17:22.17 | bluspacecow | lulz |
| 17:22.20 | Torhal|work | And they're fast as hell. |
| 17:22.21 | bluspacecow | http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/uovpp/accidentally_discovered_item_chat_link_code/ |
| 17:22.35 | pompy | and they leap |
| 17:22.38 | pompy | maybe just the stalkers idk |
| 17:22.40 | pompy | but damn |
| 17:22.43 | foxlit | just move. |
| 17:23.31 | foxlit | it should be possible to get out of the way as they're leaping, taking no damage from their melee. |
| 17:23.55 | foxlit | past that, you're dealing with their ranged fire bomb toss, but that's also solved by not standing still for too long |
| 17:24.16 | Torhal|work | Yah, the issue is when I'm already fighting a horde of mobs and they join in |
| 17:24.24 | Torhal|work | Then it's like "Fuck it. Back to farming." |
| 17:24.30 | foxlit | but with force armor and health pool, you should still be getting three-shot, not one-shot |
| 17:25.08 | foxlit | ha, that's always hilarious. "Oh, this area has a welcome elite pack? Let me just kite it over there... into that other elite pack.... and over there, into that third champion pack" |
| 17:25.13 | Torhal|work | Maybe it is three-shot, but when I'm at full health one second and dead literally the next it sure as hell LOOKS like one-shot. |
| 17:25.37 | pompy | thers like 34534 attacks taking place too |
| 17:26.14 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfUkFLfHSsE#t=0m55s << clealry sound advise |
| 17:26.22 | foxlit | s/ise/ice/ |
| 17:26.43 | Torhal|work | Hah |
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| 17:28.16 | pompy | haha |
| 17:28.19 | Torhal|work | Ok, 50k health, 1928 life/sec, 4311 armor, lowest resist is 226 and I do 16.6K DPS |
| 17:28.29 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:28.34 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:28.42 | Torhal|work | zergs bluspacecow with fire chains. |
| 17:28.46 | bluspacecow | :D |
| 17:29.04 | bluspacecow | fake item link is fake |
| 17:29.07 | bluspacecow | :P |
| 17:29.15 | foxlit | Torhal|work: how do you actually kill anything? |
| 17:30.35 | foxlit | 26k health, 1197 life/sec, 4505 armor, 259 lowest resist, 25k dps, and I still find elite packs past act 1 to take an eternity |
| 17:30.42 | foxlit | [granted, that's the magic find set] |
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| 17:31.25 | foxlit | 43k health, 26k dps, 900 life/sec without stacking MF |
| 17:33.46 | mikma | foxlit: www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXro9WXbbM0&hd=1 |
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| 17:53.07 | Torhal|work | foxlit: In Act II? Slowly. |
| 17:53.55 | Torhal|work | I'm building my DPS back up but I don't want my health pool to go down TOO much. I simply over-compensated on the DPS-loss to health-gain. |
| 17:57.06 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: no id did not, was there something specific i should be looking at? |
| 18:03.12 | pompy | "noooooooo" lol >< |
| 18:03.14 | pompy | "Amazon.com has struck a deal with the state of New Jersey to open two fulfillment distribution centers in the Garden State and to begin charging sales taxes to New Jersey residents by July 1, 2013." |
| 18:03.22 | pompy | http://www.accountingtoday.com/news/Amazon-Start-Charging-Sales-Taxes-New-Jersey-Chris-Christie-62822-1.html |
| 18:07.59 | Torhal|work | pompy: Get a P.O. Box in New York, go to your bank, and change your billing address to that. Problem solved. |
| 18:08.53 | pompy | lol |
| 18:09.39 | Dagmar | Easier solution. Ebooks. No shipping. |
| 18:09.47 | Torhal|work | Sales Tax |
| 18:10.53 | Maldivia | or just pay the taxes, and be happy what you get in return for it |
| 18:11.10 | pompy | im hoping the distro center will be close to where i live |
| 18:11.41 | Dagmar | Pay taxes for *what*, exactly |
| 18:11.47 | pompy | amazon |
| 18:11.58 | Torhal|work | Doesn't matter that it's electronic: It's still a sale. |
| 18:12.00 | Dagmar | Amazon is taxing people now? |
| 18:12.05 | Maldivia | sales tax |
| 18:12.17 | pompy | Dagmar: http://www.accountingtoday.com/news/Amazon-Start-Charging-Sales-Taxes-New-Jersey-Chris-Christie-62822-1.html |
| 18:12.37 | pompy | Torhal|work: wont work quite well.. "Item is too big for a P.O. box. Some items are too big to ship to a P.O. box and must be shipped to a street address." and "Delivery within 2 business days. -- No P.O. boxes or APO, FPO, or DPO" |
| 18:12.47 | Torhal|work | Dude |
| 18:12.51 | Torhal|work | I said BILLING address |
| 18:12.53 | Torhal|work | Not SHIPPING address |
| 18:13.02 | pompy | hm k |
| 18:13.34 | Dagmar | No see the wondrous thing is that for a very long time now, there has been no sales tax on internet sales *unless the company has a local presence* in both locations, or at least the destination location, because otherwise there'd be taxing in *both* localities for things which the state gov't had no involvement in |
| 18:13.43 | Dagmar | No representation, no tax. |
| 18:14.20 | Dagmar | States are surely doing as fuck-all little as possible to enforce PCI guidelines, or a damn thing when there's massive CC breaches involved, so fuck them if they want taxes on something that doesn't exist |
| 18:14.21 | pompy | right now its "Items sold by Amazon.com LLC, or its subsidiaries, and shipped to destinations in the states of Kansas, Kentucky, New York, North Dakota, or Washington are subject to tax." |
| 18:14.42 | Torhal|work | So billing address means fuck-all. |
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| 18:30.37 | bluspacecow | i sleep |
| 18:30.38 | bluspacecow | nows |
| 18:30.41 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:30.48 | pompy | bonk |
| 18:33.28 | mckenziemc | ~bonk mckenziemc pompy |
| 18:33.28 | purl | ACTION bonks pompy over the head on behalf of mckenziemc |
| 18:34.18 | pompy | http://store.steampowered.com/news/7982/ Steam's "Now Available" posts are always way late. weird. |
| 18:39.58 | Maldivia | pompy: ehh? |
| 18:40.30 | pompy | look at the dates |
| 18:41.14 | Maldivia | I just a a time, which was like half an hour ago, for it to be released |
| 18:42.13 | pompy | now go to the item page and compare the release date |
| 18:42.26 | Maldivia | that says June 7th |
| 18:42.45 | Maldivia | Release Date: 7 Jun 2012 |
| 18:43.15 | pompy | uumm |
| 18:43.16 | pompy | Release Date: May 16, 2012 |
| 18:43.24 | pompy | http://store.steampowered.com/app/208730/ |
| 18:43.31 | mckenziemc | Valve Time |
| 18:43.35 | Maldivia | US vs EU release time |
| 18:43.48 | Maldivia | hence the "world-wide" announcement |
| 18:44.26 | pompy | link your eu page then |
| 18:44.32 | Maldivia | same url |
| 18:45.46 | pompy | "Game of Thrones is Now Available on Steam world-wide!" oh ffs read over that |
| 18:46.17 | pompy | but thats weird its just one link |
| 18:46.38 | Maldivia | pompy: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23189439/got-steam.png |
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| 18:52.25 | pompy | i thought there was a way to see prices in other currencies, but guess not |
| 18:57.37 | Arrowmaster | i think thats the GoT game that just came out |
| 18:59.30 | Arrowmaster | seems my dads laptop doesnt have office on it so i guess i need to take my moms on monday |
| 19:00.33 | Stanzilla | http://blog.chromium.org/2012/06/try-chrome-in-metro-mode.html |
| 19:01.45 | Fisker | hey sexy kd3 |
| 19:01.50 | Fisker | no thanks Stanzilla |
| 19:06.13 | Fisker | kd3 isn't sexy apparently |
| 19:06.32 | pompy | Arrowmaster: yes that is that game. |
| 19:06.50 | pompy | Arrowmaster: cant use OO? |
| 19:08.18 | Arrowmaster | they are using some advanced macro stuff in it that doesnt seem to be rendering correctly in libreoffice |
| 19:08.34 | Arrowmaster | its an xlsx |
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| 19:19.27 | Torhal|work | pompy: LibreOffice. OpenOffice is as good as dead. |
| 19:20.43 | nilyaK | ^ |
| 19:20.56 | durcyn | isn't apache actually trying to do something with it, or did they stop at rebranding the installer |
| 19:21.07 | nilyaK | they haven't done anything yet |
| 19:21.13 | pompy | yes they have |
| 19:21.15 | nilyaK | except rebrand it |
| 19:21.22 | pompy | " From the Apache OpenOffice Project Management Committee, 16 May 2012— The Apache OpenOffice Project today publishes its preliminary download figures for Apache OpenOffice™ 3.4, the first release of OpenOffice under the governance of the Apache Software Foundation and the Apache Incubator. Apache OpenOffice 3.4 has been downloaded 1,000,663 times via SourceForge." |
| 19:21.56 | durcyn | what, only 3.4? time for another version number arms race |
| 19:22.15 | pompy | Downloads were 87% for Microsoft Windows, 11% MacOS and 2% Linux |
| 19:22.17 | pompy | lol |
| 19:22.31 | Corrodias | wait, since when did Oracle give OpenOffice to Apache? |
| 19:22.42 | pompy | i said the same thing the other day Corrodias |
| 19:23.36 | Arrowmaster | http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/upvy9/android_car_project/ |
| 19:23.40 | pompy | n 1 June 2011, Oracle announced that the code base of OpenOffice had been proposed for submission to the Apache Software Foundation's as an Incubator project.[23] On 13 June, it was officially accepted as an incubator project.[24] |
| 19:23.43 | Arrowmaster | this is what we need more of |
| 19:23.44 | pompy | Corrodias: ^ |
| 19:23.57 | Corrodias | Oracle: still griefing |
| 19:24.04 | nilyaK | http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/3.4.0.html |
| 19:24.04 | nilyaK | scroll down to changes by apache, I won't bother pasting a wall of text into irc |
| 19:24.16 | Arrowmaster | android powered car dash systems instead of the shitty bing ones |
| 19:24.23 | pompy | nice |
| 19:24.44 | Corrodias | all the important developers have switched to LibreOffice |
| 19:25.00 | Arrowmaster | and the person in charge of OpenOffice is a loon |
| 19:25.03 | pompy | " In January 2012 IBM announced that they have donated Symphony's source code to Apache, which will be merged in OpenOffice.org 4 and that they want to release an 'Apache OpenOffice IBM edition' and upgrading their users in early 2013" |
| 19:25.34 | Corrodias | what's Symphony? |
| 19:25.40 | Arrowmaster | NFC |
| 19:26.29 | pompy | "Platform Symphony is a High-performance computing (HPC) software system developed by Platform Computing, the company that developed Load Sharing Facility (LSF). Focusing on the Financial Services Industry [2], Symphony is designed to deliver scalability and enhances performance for compute-intensive risk and analytical applications " |
| 19:26.46 | pompy | you were close Arrowmaster ;) |
| 19:26.47 | Arrowmaster | that didnt help |
| 19:27.08 | nilyaK | I'd compare that list to 3.5 libre office's changes if you wanted to see the difference, 3.4beta is basically 3.4 libre office too. |
| 19:27.11 | Corrodias | OpenOffice is an analytical application |
| 19:27.18 | Corrodias | who knew |
| 19:27.38 | pompy | http://www-03.ibm.com/software/lotus/symphony/home.nsf/home |
| 19:27.59 | cbreak | AT LEAST THEY DON'T HAVE ALL-CAPS MENUS |
| 19:28.02 | Arrowmaster | eww lotus |
| 19:28.12 | Arrowmaster | just the name alone is enough to put me off |
| 19:28.19 | pompy | IBM® Lotus® Symphony™ is a richly-featured set of productivity tools that are intuitive and easy to use and provided at no charge |
| 19:28.26 | pompy | yeahh lol |
| 19:28.33 | Corrodias | what's a productivity tool?@ |
| 19:28.38 | pompy | lol |
| 19:28.38 | durcyn | you forgot "bloatus" arrow |
| 19:28.39 | Corrodias | this is all marketing-speak :| |
| 19:28.46 | nilyaK | is it an all caps menu if the font is designed to look like caps in lowercase too? /interesting questin. |
| 19:28.54 | pompy | spreadsheet, word docs |
| 19:28.57 | pompy | etc |
| 19:29.04 | Arrowmaster | if its named Lotus and its not a car or car related, it can get the fuck out now |
| 19:29.08 | pompy | haha |
| 19:29.23 | nilyaK | I'm not sure I've used lotus since last time I tried to boot my dad's dell laptop with windows 95 and a embedded trackball mouse. |
| 19:29.29 | nilyaK | an* |
| 19:29.56 | pompy | Arrowmaster: i dont like that first thing under current issues |
| 19:30.06 | Arrowmaster | which link |
| 19:30.10 | pompy | reddit |
| 19:30.12 | pompy | car proj |
| 19:30.22 | pompy | battery overheating |
| 19:30.24 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah |
| 19:30.41 | Arrowmaster | its a great idea though |
| 19:30.49 | pompy | yse it is |
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| 19:31.23 | Arrowmaster | im curious how long the battery lasts while the car is off and the tablet is in airplane mode with the screen off |
| 19:32.20 | durcyn | i just want a decent head unit that interfaces with whatever phone/tablet i plug into it, whatever happened to that Pioneer concept that just acted as a secondary display for an iphone? |
| 19:32.35 | Arrowmaster | eww iphone |
| 19:32.44 | durcyn | yes, we know you're a fucking loudmouth android zealot already |
| 19:32.55 | durcyn | point is the prototype existed |
| 19:33.00 | nilyaK | it died of dysentery. |
| 19:33.27 | nilyaK | yes that was an oregon trail --> pioneer pun, yes I'm a bad person. |
| 19:34.25 | durcyn | the only thing worse than people who fawn over apple is people who won't shut up about how much they hate apple |
| 19:34.56 | Arrowmaster | im just pointing out that not everybody uses apple shit |
| 19:35.04 | nilyaK | I would like apple more if it were a granny smith, white apples just are not appealing to me, they remind me of bunicula. |
| 19:35.30 | durcyn | hence why i said "whatever device is plugged into it", to paraphrase myself, i'm sure it could be made to work with any platform |
| 19:35.47 | durcyn | instead you get these unusable piles of shit from car makers |
| 19:44.58 | foxlit | Workers Created: 129 |
| 19:45.04 | foxlit | I think I overdid that a bit :/ |
| 19:49.24 | Arrowmaster | oh dear god, somebody is creating a MLP fighting game |
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| 20:05.06 | Unkle | hi hi Seerah. Feeling better? |
| 20:05.46 | Seerah | I'm doing okay |
| 20:06.40 | Unkle | Glad to hear it. |
| 20:11.49 | TC-Work | depending, it could be high high Seerah. |
| 20:12.09 | Seerah | no, I stopped taking the good drugs. they made me nauseous |
| 20:12.18 | Torhal|work | Seerah: I blame helicopter cats. |
| 20:12.28 | Seerah | I'm sticking it out with only Ibuprofen and my will |
| 20:12.42 | TC-Work | Thanks ok Seerah, you can Unload them on Unkle, and he will be happy to suffer your high's for you. |
| 20:12.53 | Seerah | hehe |
| 20:12.56 | TC-Work | s/thanks/thats/ |
| 20:13.02 | Seerah | they're opiates ;) |
| 20:13.44 | karl_w_w | good news: I'm awake. bad news: I have been for the last 20 hours. worse news: I have to be awake in 2.5 hours and for 17 hours after that. |
| 20:14.15 | TC-Work | great new, they have druigs for that |
| 20:14.19 | TC-Work | drugs* |
| 20:14.24 | TC-Work | news* |
| 20:14.27 | TC-Work | *sigh* |
| 20:14.40 | TC-Work | goes back to remedial typing |
| 20:14.40 | karl_w_w | taking those drugs right now, are you? :P |
| 20:16.31 | Unkle | I was just talking about wishing my doctoro would proscribe vicodin for my really bad migraine days to someone else. lulz |
| 20:18.23 | Seerah | Off to lay down and put my foot back up. ttfn <3 |
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| 21:59.44 | TC-Work | http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/07/cronus-adapter-lets-you-play-xbox-360-with-a-ps3-controller-and/ |
| 22:01.45 | Corrodias | not a bad gadget; i've got a similar chinese product for wired controllers |
| 22:02.08 | TC-Work | wires is so last year |
| 22:02.20 | Corrodias | it'll be interesting to see how they get around the 360 controller authentication problem |
| 22:02.54 | Corrodias | mine requires connecting a 360 controller first, then you can swap it for a ps3 one or whatever you want |
| 22:18.25 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 22:18.40 | Mr_Rabies | the device looks so cool, then china goes and slaps a PCPROG label on it |
| 22:20.08 | Corrodias | i prefer to keep my controllers wired, anyway, so i'm happier with the one i have |
| 22:22.17 | arton | Bugs exist. Deal with it. |
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| 23:22.30 | Arrowmaster | http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=child+of+eden&x=0&y=0 |
| 23:22.47 | Arrowmaster | child of eden $10 free ship 360/ps3 |
| 23:34.10 | TC-Work | just ps3 now |
| 23:35.49 | Arrowmaster | you were slow then |
| 23:37.15 | TC-Work | i was in a meeting |
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