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01:14.03pompyHatemonger the Chundermonger
01:45.23Thunder_Childi picked up [Cruel eye of cruelty] which i thought was rather redundant.
01:54.41[Wobin]was it especially cruel?
01:54.53[Wobin]and isn't that the affix for dex?
01:55.00[Wobin]I always wondered why that'd be cruel
01:56.52Thunder_Childyea, slightly confused about that myself
01:57.13Thunder_Childi keep thinking cruel should be bleed or somesuch
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02:31.25Thunder_Child~whaleslap |Jelly|
02:31.26purlACTION beats |Jelly| upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
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03:36.02|Jelly|3
03:36.23kd3|Jelly|, you have a cat playing with the keyboard
03:41.30Thunder_Childi thought |Jelly| was a cat
03:41.47|Jelly|Dog, actually.
03:42.00|Jelly|Amazingly enough, he didn't knock over the soda can next to the keyboard.
03:42.36Thunder_Childso better than most gamers
03:42.39Thunder_Childkinda sad
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04:03.16Arrowmastertonights game of thrones was so great
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05:12.07AcidWebHeeh EA fired Stephen Reid. Seriously SWTOR is sinking.
05:13.19DagmarI need to turn that subscription off
05:13.21DagmarI can't stand the game.
05:13.37DagmarI've tried and I've tried and there's just too much overly generic rubberstamping going on
05:13.55Dagmar...and the engine is freakin' spastic
05:14.47DagmarIt ain't helping that they still won't admit they used the Hero Engine
05:15.03DagmarHaving played Champions Online and Star Trek Online, you just can't unsee it
05:15.30AcidWebSWTOR was a game with great potential. Sadly they failed. _Completly_
05:15.54DagmarIt feels like an overly munchkinized mess
05:16.15DagmarThe space combat is just insulting.
05:16.50DagmarThe space combat in the last one was kinda crap, but still a hundred times better
05:17.04DagmarSWTOR's space combat might as well be a flash game.
05:17.15AcidWebThat was space rollercoaster not combat ;p
05:17.18karl_w_wswtor was based on star wars, what are u talking about great potential
05:17.43Dagmarkarl_w_w: The previous games were kinda painful, but they were at least _interesting_
05:17.59DagmarThe questlines literally feel like you're basically running errands for an interstellar trailer park
05:18.46DagmarIf I had to hazard a guess, I'd say someone erred and thought they were making an MMO out of the Star Wars cartoon
05:20.43DagmarPeople should be giving hard looks at the people in the art dept who did all the NPC and PC models
05:21.15DagmarThe signature Star Wars galaxy alien races... all just about perfect.  Very detailed.  They look exactly like they should.
05:21.16DagmarThe humans?
05:21.44Dagmar_Puttyfaces to a man_.  Worse still, pretty much the same puttyfaces and puttyfigures as Champions and Star Trek
05:21.54DagmarThe contrast is _glaring_
05:22.30Dagmar...and in the tradition of Champions Online, at no time were the people assiging voice actors ever allowed to actually see the models the voices were being applied to.
05:23.11DagmarThey should have had the guys who did the alien models redo all the humans from the ground-up.
05:24.04DagmarThe way the NPCs in the wilderness _all just basically stand around_ or _patrol_ with no in-between is also bad
05:24.28DagmarThere was a degree to which crossing some zones in Everquest was a lot like Frogger, but this is the exact oppostie
05:24.56AcidWebhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1138577-500-000-in-pathology-equipment-stolen-infected-with-flesh-eating-bacteria?p=16973370&viewfull=1#post16973370
05:24.57AcidWeblol
05:24.58DagmarObvious use of Artifical Epicness, with respect to... _the size of zones_
05:25.20DagmarThere's like a fixed 15 foot distance everyone is to everyone else, which is bizarre if you think about this in terms of people standing in a group
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05:29.17DagmarI'd also kinda like to see the person who put in the way the ship and speeders move answer for their crimes
05:30.00DagmarThe ship moves like you're steering it by running behind it holding a long stick that is attached to it's nose
05:30.17Dagmar...by a string.  Like a baloon.
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06:59.56Mike-N-GoWhat is the story?
07:12.28Thunder_Childabout how i became the prince of bel-air
07:19.48karl_w_wwhat's the story morning glory
07:20.16zenzelezzneed a little time to wake up, wake up
07:24.48Mike-N-GoAre addons on in the Mists beta yet?
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07:35.45pompyno, and when they are the topic in irc will indicate so and so will the news sections of curseforge and wowi
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07:41.14F16Gamingsilly dropbox can't handle folder renames :/ http://i.imgur.com/jR1C8.png
07:43.27Mike-N-GoThe topic could indicate the absence of addons in the beta.
08:01.09pompynah, thats a given
08:02.32Mike-N-GoI read the topic.
08:02.38Mike-N-GoTopic said nothing either way.
08:03.00Mike-N-GoI asked, because no comment on a subject can go either way.
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08:21.23Fiskerit looks like it just did F16Gaming
08:22.10F16GamingFisker: but it detected every single file in the folder as "changed" instead of "moved"
08:22.21Fiskerthat's one way of handling it
08:22.22F16Gamingnot that dropbox has a "move" state afaik
08:22.40F16GamingFisker: well it would have to sync every file over the internet instead of renaming the folder locally
08:22.46karl_w_wso don't move them :P
08:22.56F16Gaming:P
08:23.03Mike-N-GoEasy: Do nothing.
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09:22.49karl_w_wi feel like i've missed half of Shannon's problem
09:23.26Mike-N-GoShannon: Have you done XML bindings before?
09:23.43karl_w_wwhy would anybody ever press a modifier before they press the hotkey
09:25.21Mike-N-GoShannon: How WoW typically does keys is on key depress, not press.
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09:30.24Mike-N-GoYes, the 'released' state.
09:30.40Mike-N-GoI
09:30.40Mike-N-Go'
09:30.53Mike-N-GoI've seen some addons that swap it, though.
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09:31.55Shannon<PROTECTED>
09:32.03Mike-N-GoFor most purposes, it is the change of states from DEPRESSED to RELEASED that key presses trigger.
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09:32.42Mike-N-GoShannon: May you start from the beginning? I do not know what, you are trying to do.
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09:33.12Mike-N-GoShannon: It also matters how you have your keybindings set up.
09:33.28Shannon<PROTECTED>
09:33.49Shannon<PROTECTED>
09:33.56Mike-N-GoIf memory serves me, pageup/down is defaulted to zoom the camra.
09:34.12Shannon<PROTECTED>
09:34.25Mike-N-GoDid you detach the requisite hotkeys from the camera?
09:34.47Shannon<PROTECTED>
09:34.52Mike-N-GoFor this key might' interfere if it is bound to something.
09:35.15Mike-N-GoSo, the objective is to do stuff when shift and pageup is pressed?
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09:35.31Shannon<PROTECTED>
09:35.32Mike-N-GoWhat is the stuff you want to do?
09:36.01Shannon<PROTECTED>
09:36.12Shannon<PROTECTED>
09:36.29Mike-N-GoOr the full text of the macro?
09:36.53Shannon<PROTECTED>
09:36.54Mike-N-GoI am tossing darts in the dark without knowing what the purpose or code is.
09:37.10Shannon<PROTECTED>
09:37.13Mike-N-GoAre you using the /run or /script?
09:37.19Shannon<PROTECTED>
09:37.23Shannon<PROTECTED>
09:37.43Shannon./run i belive
09:37.48Mike-N-GoYes, please post the full text of the macro pastebin please.
09:38.00Shannon<PROTECTED>
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09:38.07Mike-N-Go<PROTECTED>
09:39.13Mike-N-GoBye MP!
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09:43.59Mike-N-GoYah, /run is good, less space.
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09:45.45Mike-N-GoI think it might be the order.
09:46.01Mike-N-GoThere are a few different order you can  have with 2 key sand 2 states.
09:46.13Mike-N-GoShift is a key, as well as page down
09:46.24Shannon<PROTECTED>
09:46.28Mike-N-GoPage down is the key that runs the macro, right?
09:46.54Shannon<PROTECTED>
09:47.12Mike-N-GoYou would need to be holding down shift when releasing pagedown.
09:47.13Shannon<PROTECTED>
09:47.38Mike-N-GoNot let go of both of them at a likewise same and random time.
09:48.01Shannon<PROTECTED>
09:48.07Mike-N-Go(I do not have WoW Installed currently, and it has been a few months since I played, so I might not have this all correct)
09:48.44Mike-N-GoWell, the problem is that you are saving the function in a variable.
09:48.58Shannon<PROTECTED>
09:49.00Mike-N-GoSo for each instance of TFlag is is calling up the saved value.
09:49.04Mike-N-GoNot the function
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09:49.32Mike-N-Go./run function TF() IsShiftKeyDown() end
09:49.37Mike-N-GoPut that in a secondary macro
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09:50.04Mike-N-GoAnd for each TFlag in your main macro, put in TR()
09:50.17Shannon<PROTECTED>
09:50.23Mike-N-GoErr, yes.
09:50.27Shannon<PROTECTED>
09:50.28Mike-N-GoSorry, it is 3 am here.
09:50.33Shannon<PROTECTED>
09:50.53Mike-N-GoEach time you load WoW, press your secondary macro to set up the variable.
09:50.59Shannon<PROTECTED>
09:51.14Mike-N-GoIt is a variable run as a function. That is what "() means.
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09:52.24Mike-N-GoI think so; what is this about equal signs?
09:52.26F16Gamingthat function would do nothing
09:52.35F16Gamingif "IsShiftKeyDown()" is all that it contains
09:52.43Mike-N-Go./run function TF(); IsShiftKeyDown()
09:52.54F16Gamingthat's better :P
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09:53.03Mike-N-Go./run function TF(); IsShiftKeyDown() end
09:53.18F16GamingMike-N-Go: incorrect syntax
09:53.21F16Gamingfunction TF();
09:53.37Mike-N-Go; is the same as a line return
09:53.57F16Gamingin that case the function is doing nothing but calling IsShiftKeyDown() and discarding the result
09:54.00Mike-N-GoYou use ; to end a line in a macro script, for it all has to be on one line for a /run
09:54.25Mike-N-Go: ./run function TF(); return IsShiftKeyDown() end
09:54.33F16Gaming./run function TF() IsShiftKeyDown() end would produce the same as function TF()<artificial newline> IsShiftKeyDown() end
09:54.34Mike-N-GoThat is what we need, methinks.
09:54.40F16GamingLua does not need line breaks
09:54.53Mike-N-GoF16Gaming: That depends =D
09:55.00F16Gamingnot in function declarations
09:55.13Mike-N-GoYes, thank you for the input.
09:55.30Mike-N-GoI am a bit rusty, like I said, I have not opened WoW in months, much less wrote Lua.
09:55.35F16Gaming> function TF(); IsShiftKeyDown() end
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09:55.35F16Gamingstdin:1: unexpected symbol near ';'
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09:56.00Mike-N-GoShannon: You ever use a return function before?
09:56.13Shannon<PROTECTED>
09:56.21Mike-N-GoIt 'returns' the value.
09:56.25Shannon<PROTECTED>
09:56.35F16Gamingand for that purpose, you could use TF=IsShiftKeyDown, unless you're going to do something else with the return value
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09:57.42Mike-N-GoYes, what F16Gaming said, I was just thinking the space saving way to return a function is to set a variable as the other one "TF=IsShiftKeyDown"
09:57.46F16GamingShannon: what are you doing anyway :P
09:57.49Mike-N-GoAnd then do TF().
09:58.06Mike-N-GoThe () means 'run this as a function'
09:58.29Mike-N-GoF16Gaming: Example macro patebin http://pastebin.com/vnyLeMRU
09:58.53F16Gamingno need for semicolon on the first line
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10:00.33F16Gaming./run TFlag=IsShiftKeyDown()
10:00.34F16Gaming./run if(TFlag)then print"you pressed page down with the shift key" else print"you pressed page down without the shift key" end
10:00.38F16Gamingdiscard the dots
10:00.44F16Gamingproduces the same result
10:00.56Mike-N-GoShannon: One of the first things to notice is there are SEVERAL ways to do something. Some take up less space, some are eaiser to read, and some are best (or not so best) practice.
10:00.58F16Gamingyou don't have to check for ==1 and ==nil since lua already considers 1 as true and nil as false
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10:01.37Mike-N-GoYou can do if not TFlag() then dostuff .. end
10:01.40F16Gamingprint"hello" is the same as print("hello")
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10:02.28Mike-N-GoMany different huh?
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10:03.06F16Gamingif you have bound pagedown to the macro
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10:03.20F16Gamingare you casting spells/using items or doing something else?
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10:03.55F16Gaming./target [mod:shift] ShiftTarget; NoShiftTarget;
10:03.56F16Gamingi think
10:04.11F16Gamingnot sure if /target accepts modifiers
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10:04.58F16Gamingwhat exactly are you targeting then :P
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10:05.19F16GamingIIRC, targeting functions cannot be called from macros/lua when in combat. don't quote me on that though
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10:05.30karl_w_wthey can
10:05.35F16Gamingk :P
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10:05.46F16Gamingkarl_w_w: but they are HW, right?
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10:06.06Mike-N-GoThis is what I got: http://pastebin.com/xXcZamGV
10:06.48F16GamingShannon: and when you have shift and pdown, it should target who?
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10:07.17F16GamingMike-N-Go: just if TFlag is enough
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10:07.38F16Gamingwe are already listening :P
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10:07.53Mike-N-GoShannon: You will have to consider if what you want to do with targeting is even possible, like switching targets based on the results of a script, is expressly not allowed.
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10:09.33F16Gamingthere's no unit for the duel player, is there?
10:09.48Maldiviawell, you have a name
10:09.50Mike-N-GoShannon: http://www.wowwiki.com/MACRO_stopmacro may be useful.
10:10.06Mike-N-GoI am going to bed.
10:10.18Mike-N-GoI am glad I was able to help you with the start =D
10:10.21F16GamingShannon: well Maldivia's code should work, just put what you want it to do when using shift
10:10.26Shannonhttp://pastebin.com/tGBKaiDi
10:10.28Mike-N-GoI wish you well with your coding.
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10:11.52F16Gamingbefore the duel starts, right?
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10:12.36F16GamingTargetUnit is protected, so you can't make it automatically target
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10:13.01Mike-N-GoOne thing I see is that if you are in combat, the ui is on lockdown, so it can get stuck and not change the key mapping if you press it during combat.
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10:13.11Mike-N-GoAnyway, afk for sleeps.
10:13.25F16GamingMike-N-Go: editing macro should be possible before duel starts, since player is not yet in combat
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10:13.58Mike-N-GoMight be attacked by a NPC, and then your targetenemy button does not target.
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10:16.23F16GamingSetRaidTarget doesn't seem to be protected in any way, so it should be possible
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10:18.40F16Gamingi really don't know how it would be possible to make macro automatically target your duel opponent when pressed
10:18.59F16Gamingsince you can't use /target without knowing the name, and TargetUnit is protected
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10:20.50Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:21.13F16Gamingexpanding on Maldivia's macro, maybe like this:
10:21.14F16Gaminghttp://pastebin.com/gH93FXdk
10:21.15Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:21.24F16Gamingstore that macro text in a variable
10:21.35F16Gamingand subscribe to the event that fires when a new duel is starting
10:21.48F16Gamingand do a string.Format(macroText, duelPlayername)
10:22.01F16Gamings/Format/format/
10:23.31F16Gamingnot sure what the event name is, but you should be able to find out .P
10:23.33F16Gaming:P*
10:23.54Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:24.23Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:24.51F16Gamingbasically
10:24.54F16Gamingduel is starting
10:24.57F16Gamingevent fires
10:25.05F16Gamingaddon executes code that updates macro text
10:25.11F16Gamingyou use the updated macro to target duel player
10:25.49Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:25.56Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:26.08Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:26.09F16Gamingwhy do you want something new then, if it's working? :P
10:26.24Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:26.27Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:26.47F16Gamingthe macro that Maldi posted requires shift to be presssed
10:27.15Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:27.28F16GamingShannon: it will reset to nearest enemy
10:27.29Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:27.42Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:27.43Shannonlol
10:27.56F16Gamingif you press shift it will always attempt to target your last duel player
10:28.11F16Gamingnot pressing shift will always target nearest enemy
10:28.41Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:28.56Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:29.00F16Gamingthis one doesn't work like that, if i understood your description right
10:29.00Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:29.27F16Gamingif you press page down, without any modifier, at any time during anything: it will target nearest enemy, no matter what
10:29.33Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:29.42F16Gamingif you press shift: it will always attempt to target your last known duel player, no matter what
10:29.59Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:30.04Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:30.13F16Gamingyou could make it listen to two events
10:30.16F16Gamingduel start and duel end
10:30.26Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:30.29F16Gamingon duel start replace the macro text with /target <name>
10:30.43F16Gamingon duel end replace it with /targetnearestenemy
10:31.03F16Gamingmight want to make a timer for duel end in case you are still in combat for a brief moment
10:31.04cbreakfun. Didn't know http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/ works with browsers other than mozilla firefox
10:31.14Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:31.35Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:31.45F16Gamingthen scrap the second event and make shift+pagedown in the macro call some Reset function
10:31.48Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:32.01Shannon<PROTECTED>
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10:32.37Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:32.44F16GamingShannon: this would be the macro text stored in the addon:
10:32.44F16Gaminghttp://pastebin.com/1Ma3DKk0
10:32.54Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:32.56F16Gaminglet me write up some quick code for the addon
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10:34.40Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:34.56Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:35.14Maldiviathat would be macro modifiers
10:35.31Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:35.45Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:35.48Maldivialike you can do /cast [mod:shift] Renew; [mod:ctrl] Flash Heal; [mod:alt] Heal
10:36.00Maldiviajust as an example
10:36.04Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:36.16Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:36.36F16GamingShannon: http://pastebin.com/At8RB0nx
10:37.25F16Gamingsome syntax errors
10:37.39F16Gamingremove quotation mark after duelName in the first EditMacro
10:38.22Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:38.25Shannon*syntax
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10:40.29Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:41.04F16GamingShannon: i just realised i left out the code to register to the event
10:41.24F16Gaminglocal frame = CreateFrame("Frame") frame:RegisterEvent("REPLACE_WITH_DUEL_START_EVENTNAME")
10:41.29F16Gamingdamnit
10:41.34F16Gamingreplace registerevent with
10:41.40Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:41.53F16Gamingframe:RegisterEvent("replaceWithDuelStartEventname", TFEvent)
10:41.54Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:41.55F16Gamingthere we go
10:42.35Shannon<PROTECTED>
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10:44.02Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:44.46Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:45.08F16Gamingwell
10:45.21F16Gamingif Blizzard doesn't want it, they will hotfix it in 4 hours anyway
10:45.34Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:45.36F16Gamingleave gamebreaking bugs alive, fix the minor ones instead. that's how they work :/
10:46.06Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:46.20Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:46.20F16Gamingand having to kill the entire raid and go out of instance to fix it...
10:46.28Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:46.36F16Gaming"kill the entire raid" as in the players in the raid group, not bosses in a raid dungeon
10:46.51Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:47.04F16Gamingalso, bugged fire on Dragon Soul ship has been present since DS launch
10:47.34Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:47.42Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:47.52Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:47.53F16Gamingbut when someone kited a boss to orgrimmar and wiped half of the population, it was fixed the very next day
10:47.58Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:48.04Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:48.27F16Gamingi don't see how it's realistic that an angered night elf female will just stop attacking you and run back like a wuss after 50 yards
10:48.37Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:48.42F16Gaming^
10:49.08Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:49.08F16Gamingall we can kite now is useless normal mobs that get onehitted by any player in the city
10:49.16Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:49.20Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:49.26F16GamingShannon: and also, the thing that has been in WoW since forever (as far as i know)......
10:49.39F16GamingNPCs CAN F**KING WALLCLIMB
10:49.41F16Gaming:@
10:49.50F16Gamingi felt caps was necessary
10:49.55Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:49.59Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:50.12Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:50.16F16Gaming"Oh hi there player, let me climb this 90 degree wall that you can't climb to get to you up there!"
10:50.20Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:50.36Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:50.41Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:50.43F16Gamingit's cute when the companion orphans wallclimb after your mount though...
10:51.01Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:51.03F16Gamingbut it seems this year they made them despawn quickly after you mount
10:51.55Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:52.19F16Gamingmeh
10:52.20Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:52.24F16Gamingeveryone seems to have moved to diablo anyway
10:52.41Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:53.10Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:53.20F16Gamingi wonder what P.E.T.A will say
10:53.24F16Gamingwhen we will be able to kill pandas
10:53.33Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:53.37Shannon*knows
10:53.45Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:53.49F16Gamingk
10:53.49Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:53.50F16Gamingnp
10:53.56Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:54.00F16Gaming^^
10:54.06Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:54.16Shannon<PROTECTED>
10:54.23F16Gamingcya
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13:56.38foxlitHah, templar is being incredibly useless.
13:57.12foxlittime between running into a mob and dying is approximately 1s
13:58.51Stanzillagear him!
13:59.05karl_w_w^
13:59.19karl_w_wfoxlit probably just likes seeing him die
13:59.38karl_w_wif u cant gear ur follower take the enchantress at least she has some nice utility
13:59.41foxlitgot like 31k health
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14:02.09foxlitokay, no more wasps. He lives longer now
14:03.00nevcairielwasps are bad for any kind of pets or followers
14:03.14nevcairielstupid tanking pet of the WD also always eats them and dies
14:04.02Fiskerwhy would it eat them?
14:04.46karl_w_wnevcairiel likes to keep his followers hungry
14:04.50karl_w_wlike jesus
14:04.58foxlit"foxlit was slain." << I think the combatlog gave up.
14:05.32nevcairieli mostly see that when the remains of a molten mob explode :p
14:05.41nevcairiel(and i didnt pay attention again)
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14:06.18foxlitthankfully, no elite packs so far
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14:10.39foxlitHm, that didn't last.
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14:44.59mikmartharper + jnwhiteh : http://www.rlslog.net/iron-sky-limited-dvdrip-xvid-done/
14:48.06Humbedoohrawr, udo kier!
14:52.47pompyhttp://gamerant.com/batman-arkham-city-voice-actors-video-tao-151158/
14:54.17rtharperlol wtf
14:54.47Fiskerno piracy pls
14:55.20mikmapiracy? where?!?!?!?
14:57.29Kalrothits not piracy if you dont download it
14:57.39Kalrothand i dont intend to do so
14:57.47Kalrothim going to wait for the bluray version
14:57.56mikmahave you seen the movie?
14:58.03Kalrothno
14:58.46mikmawell, don't keep your hopes up. eventho it's the largest budget film ever made in Finland, I didn't consider it as good ;D
14:59.10mikmabut i do have Snatch there, waiting to be watched like a stripper...
14:59.11Kalrothi read that it trashtalks republican conservatives
14:59.16mikmathat it does
14:59.17TMc51Space Nazis? Sounds like a b film flop.
14:59.19Kalrothwhich is a good thing in my book
14:59.48Kalrothfilthy republicans needs to be shipped off to an island somewhere, just like how australia was formed
14:59.57mikmatmc51: you need to see if before you say so anyway ;)
14:59.58Kalrothmaybe greenland for the republicans
15:00.14Kalrothand Snatch is awesome, you're a JERK if you haven't seen it yet
15:00.15Kalrothtwice
15:00.22Kalrothmaybe thrice even
15:00.47mikmai've seen it :)
15:00.53TMc51Hey, I never said it was bad. Just the plot seems very weird. :P
15:01.31Kalrothi bet Fisker havent seen Snatch yet
15:01.32mikmatmc51: not that bad of a plot from a finnish film
15:01.35Kalrothhe's a real jerk
15:02.03mikmakalroth: i'd put my money on that too
15:05.03mikmaoh look, benicio has a big gun
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15:12.06Shirikmikma: Janie's got a gun too
15:12.17Shirikalso, http://images.gammatester.com/pics/89a34adc2213815725698b8c64056515.png
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15:13.49bluspacecowthats crazy
15:13.57bluspacecowthe shire's no where near Olympia
15:25.08mckenziemcbetter start walking now shirik
15:25.33Shirikbut google said I can't walk
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15:33.33karl_w_wshatters Shirik's kneecaps
15:33.46karl_w_wlooks like google was right! damn google know everything
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15:55.41sylvanaarhttp://screencast.com/t/Ceoc9YbO
15:58.05foxlitI love how today's xkcd progresses from being sane to being absolutely ridiculous.
15:58.29sylvanaarall in a day?
16:01.41sylvanaari guess i havent looked in a while...the last several are stupid
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16:32.57DagmarNote carefully the phrase "Intermittently amenable to date math"
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17:06.33AcidWebmikma: :D
17:13.00pompyhttp://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/578262_10150905317389333_57555754_n.jpg
17:14.00Fiskerbluspacecow
17:14.02Fiskeri'm awesome
17:14.09bluspacecowoh rly?
17:14.14Fiskeryeah
17:14.15Fiskerhttp://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4310135100?page=1#3
17:14.22Fiskerdick way of telling people to not bump or dickiest way?
17:14.50bluspacecowindeed
17:14.58bluspacecowi salute you sir
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17:18.53Fiskerit is getting hot in here bluspacecow
17:21.39Fiskerso what bluspacecow ?
17:21.48bluspacecowso
17:21.49bluspacecowso
17:21.51bluspacecowsuck your toe
17:21.56bluspacecowi go do dishes nows
17:22.00pompyi really wonder what their solution will be for the commodity auctions since they have been disabled for nearly a week now and they said "asap" almost a week ago!
17:22.45Thunder_Childif asap is a year, it's still asap
17:23.38Fiskerwut?
17:23.40Fiskersuck my toe?
17:24.01Fiskerasap is an undetermined period of time Thunder_Child
17:24.03pompyThunder_Child: meatpopsicle eh? hahaha
17:25.00Thunder_Child^_^
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18:28.42Stanzillahttp://www.theverge.com/2012/5/28/3048114/flame-trojan-worm-kaspersky-lab-detailed
18:28.46Stanzillalua trojan
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19:10.42clever'Additionally, the research says that the worm surveys a system and will then uninstall itself from machines it thinks are not interesting.'
19:10.46cleverStanzilla: neat
19:10.51cleverguess i dont have to worry, being up in canada :P
19:11.42Thunder_Childdepends wich part
19:23.23sylvanaarlol, I didn't get the reference until just today https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community/blob/master/platform/lang-impl/src/com/intellij/codeInsight/problems/WolfTheProblemSolverImpl.java
19:28.15cleversylvanaar: weird code, lol
19:28.49sylvanaarif you look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulp_Fiction, you can see the reference
19:30.00sylvanaarthat explains why there is:  private boolean orderVincentToCleanTheCar(final VirtualFile file,
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19:37.46foxlitI wonder how many critters there are in world of warcraft.
19:37.53cleversylvanaar: never watched the whole movie
19:38.11foxlit(and how much storage keeping track of the 1-day polymorph on all of them is going to require)
19:38.32cleverfoxlit: i have a feeling that the mobs dont exist if you dont see them
19:39.18sylvanaarlol
19:39.20cleverfoxlit: ever noticed how you run up on a pack of mobs, and a dozen of them all buff up at once?
19:39.43foxlitclever: boring observation, my worldtrack is much more interesting.
19:40.01cleverits almost like the server wasnt tracking buffs/spells until somebody was there to observe it
19:40.10clevermaybe even as far as the mob not even existing
19:40.42cleverand its probly ram anyways, i cant see any reason to keep that on disk
19:40.51sylvanaarI have been online before and seen them all despawn simultaneously. so they have an overlord system
19:41.33foxlitagain, booooring
19:41.49karl_w_wyou'd be hard-pressed to see them despawn if you were offline
19:41.50foxlitsuppose 1-day polymorph actually lasted 1 day, even if nobody was around to observe it until 23:59
19:41.57sylvanaarheh
19:42.14foxlithow much space would you need to keep track of all of them?
19:42.41karl_w_wits probably like 4 bytes for each one :P
19:43.40karl_w_wthere are 203 zones
19:44.02karl_w_wi would call 1000/zone a high estimate
19:44.25karl_w_w203,000 isnt that many really
19:45.40karl_w_wUnitAura has 16 returns, so even if each of those was 1 byte of storage...
19:45.58karl_w_w3.1 mb
19:46.09karl_w_wI think they can manage it :P
19:47.11foxlitI think you're underestimating the amount of storage required per buff, but the conclusion might be okay anyway
19:49.04sylvanaarthat does say that they do exist when you are not there
19:50.03karl_w_wthey probably do
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19:53.27Arrowmasterwhy the hell isnt this subbed yet http://anidb.net/a7991
19:53.39karl_w_wand i just thought those 203 zones arent on the same server
19:53.55karl_w_wmost would be on instance servers
19:54.40karl_w_wArrowmaster: because you haven't subbed it yet
19:54.50Arrowmasteri cant sub it
19:54.56Arrowmasteri dont know japanese
19:55.19karl_w_wi dont see how that disproves my statement :P
19:57.38sylvanaaryour 3.1mb statement?
19:57.56karl_w_wmy statement re. subs
20:01.40karl_w_wnight chaps and chapettes
20:09.38Fisker3.1 millibit?
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20:25.09TC-Workholy crap traffic near the beach is hooooooooorible
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20:33.09artonMemorial Day -- Once a year we're reminded that we're at war, and it's waged in honor of our many "freedoms" at home. Meanwhile, CISPA, NDAA, SOPA, Bush, and Obama -- hidden realities in direct conflict with our "freedoms."
20:45.26Arrowmasterim kinda tired of seeing this camera angle after the coverage on sunday, http://i.imgur.com/Vu9Zl.gif
20:46.01Arrowmasterthey kept showing slowmos from that camera of cars going through the turn and onto 3 or 2 wheels
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20:54.17ArrowmasterTorhal|work: you guys just host diablowiki.com and dont run it right? just like wowpedia?
20:55.35Mike-N-GoF16Gaming: But, an NPC does not know how to jump off a 3 foot drop.
20:56.00F16GamingMike-N-Go: :P
20:56.36F16Gamingit's a lot more difficult to get back down
20:56.40F16Gamingeverybody knows that :D
20:58.09TorhalArrowmaster: No idea, to be honest
20:58.52ArrowmasterTorhal: well theres a tread on reddit about the wiki fragmentation situation
20:59.15Mike-N-GoArrowmaster: What wiki fragmentation?
20:59.41ArrowmasterMike-N-Go: that theres something like 3 to 5 different diablo 3 wikis
20:59.54Arrowmasterand they all suck at this point
20:59.57Mike-N-GoThis is WOWuidev.
21:00.04Arrowmasterso?
21:00.11Mike-N-GoHow dare you take about something other then WOW!
21:00.12sylvanaarwe dont talk about wow here Mike-N-Go
21:00.14Mike-N-Gorant.
21:00.29sylvanaaryou must be new
21:00.30Mike-N-GoI'm trying to be funny, I guess I failed?
21:00.49sylvanaarlol - it's hard to tell over irc
21:00.57kd3do we ever talk about wow ui dev in here any more?
21:00.58kd3>.>
21:01.09sylvanaarmost of us dont play
21:01.21ArrowmasterTorhal: well i might be wrong in what i said then but i made an educated guess based on your other wikis http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/u8ci0/is_it_just_me_or_is_the_diablo_wiki_just_awful/c4tb57l?context=3
21:01.46TorhalI'd assume we don't run it.
21:01.46Arrowmasterkd3: go takeover diablowiki.com and make it good
21:02.11Mikkas if diablo needs wiki
21:02.13Mikkshrugs
21:04.01TorhalThe graphic for diablowiki.com makes me want to hurt things.
21:06.21cleverTorhal: maybe your channeling diablo himself without trying to!
21:08.18Torhalchanges the channel.
21:08.49StanzillaTorhal: will that make me jewish?
21:08.59TC-Workkd3: yes, to mention we dont talk about it
21:09.10TC-Workwhich kinda negates itself...
21:12.11Arrowmasterhmm i just got an email about job openings at WP AFB and i have no clue what these job descriptions are talking about
21:19.09Arrowmasterhttp://kotaku.com/5913740/the-new-starship-troopers-anime-gets-a-trailer-for-you-to-watch
21:19.29Arrowmasterwhy is the trailer for a japanese anime have english audio
21:19.38Arrowmasteralso watch to the very end for joke
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22:54.26Arrowmasterhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SBzRmWeC6Ds
22:54.34Arrowmasterthis is the greatest thing ive ever seen
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