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| 00:05.36 | Sintacks | I <3 AoE bell thing that I can't think of the name of the spell of |
| 00:19.34 | Arrowmaster | so i tried putting d3 on the laptop incase i had to go away this weekend |
| 00:19.44 | Arrowmaster | its stuck trying to load up the login screen |
| 00:19.55 | Arrowmaster | i think the laptops a bit too old for it |
| 00:21.40 | foxlit | spawned on top a fire chains champion pack. |
| 00:22.01 | foxlit | Lived. It also had Knockback, so they were mildly incompetent. |
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| 00:45.00 | Sintacks | my mIRC just said "fuck you asshole" |
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| 00:45.20 | TC-Work | ~lart Guest64273 |
| 00:45.20 | purl | slaps Guest64273 around with a large trout |
| 00:45.34 | Arrow|phone | And there went my desktop again |
| 00:45.56 | TC-Work | mine just seems to be away |
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| 00:51.20 | TC-Work | there you go Arrow|phone |
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| 00:58.26 | Wobin | happy towel day everyone |
| 00:58.50 | TC-Work | isnt that backwards? |
| 00:59.19 | TC-Work | i would think april the second would be better |
| 01:01.15 | Kraps | i love towels |
| 01:01.16 | Wobin | the date is only indicative of a fortnight after Mr Adams' death |
| 01:01.26 | Wobin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Towel_Day |
| 01:02.04 | Wobin | also, since Douglas Adams was British, it'd be the fourth of Feburary |
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| 02:02.56 | pompy | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150895717399034&set=a.298842734033.144051.138011799033&type=1 |
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| 02:09.05 | Kraps | apple has a page where they make a statement on adobe and flash |
| 02:10.49 | Kraps | http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ |
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| 02:31.02 | TC-Work | I ran out of things to read :( |
| 02:31.20 | TC-Work | and by that i mean online, not books |
| 02:37.29 | TC-Work | and now i am sorry i started reading other stuff |
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| 02:42.59 | pompy | so what did blizz do to the d3 launcher today? |
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| 03:03.00 | pompy | kd3: why would it? |
| 03:03.36 | kd3 | ? |
| 03:04.40 | pompy | what you said in #wowhead |
| 03:04.45 | kd3 | eh |
| 03:04.54 | pompy | god forbid they fix it ;p |
| 03:05.30 | TC-Work | why cant normal mobo's have 14 sata slots!!! |
| 03:05.55 | kd3 | 14 slots hardly seems normal |
| 03:06.27 | TC-Work | they are workstation mobos |
| 03:06.49 | TC-Work | but i wants them for home |
| 03:07.26 | TC-Work | hmm....maybe i can take one home for a cheap nas |
| 03:15.48 | pompy | "In the game Borderlands there is a weapon called the Hyperion Butcher with the description "Ahh... Fresh Meat!"" |
| 03:15.50 | pompy | lol nice |
| 03:20.15 | Seerah | pompy: did you get your launcher to work? I figured it out |
| 03:21.10 | bluspacecow | for ________ |
| 03:21.29 | Seerah | (9:42:54 PM) pompy: so what did blizz do to the d3 launcher today? |
| 03:21.46 | bluspacecow | new version of Agent/Launcher tools |
| 03:21.54 | bluspacecow | patchup.info may have a mirror up already |
| 03:22.43 | Seerah | right, but launcher wasn't updating/working. Had to launch the game's .exe directly, which downloaded/updated the agent/tools. Then you could run & use the launcher. |
| 03:22.52 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 03:23.01 | bluspacecow | siily system anyway. |
| 03:23.07 | Seerah | at least for me, and (I assume??) pompy |
| 03:23.08 | pompy | Seerah: im logged in |
| 03:23.21 | Seerah | okies. |
| 03:23.24 | pompy | it installed it |
| 03:23.25 | pompy | and stuff |
| 03:23.31 | Seerah | I don't have you on my friends list, so wasn't sure :) |
| 03:24.13 | bluspacecow | am i on you friends list seerah ? |
| 03:24.20 | Seerah | no :( |
| 03:24.23 | pompy | Seerah: dont wnna put ur btag on the google docs? ;) |
| 03:24.46 | Seerah | what? google doc for tags? |
| 03:24.49 | bluspacecow | bluspacecow#1174 |
| 03:24.49 | pompy | http://goo.gl/2bm7n |
| 03:24.54 | bluspacecow | yarrr |
| 03:25.05 | bluspacecow | totally had to check it to remember mine >_> |
| 03:25.15 | Seerah | oh, hey, lookit that |
| 03:25.25 | pompy | TC-Work made that |
| 03:25.27 | Seerah | and it's in the topic, too :p |
| 03:25.29 | pompy | at least started it |
| 03:25.31 | pompy | yess |
| 03:26.16 | Seerah | pompy "needs to add his" :p |
| 03:26.48 | pompy | who the hell did that |
| 03:26.50 | pompy | lol |
| 03:27.01 | bluspacecow | *whistles innocently* |
| 03:27.22 | pompy | ~lart bluspacecow |
| 03:27.22 | purl | takes a rusty axe and swings it violently, taking bluspacecow's head off |
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| 03:30.02 | pompy | Seerah: sent on bnet |
| 03:42.41 | TC-Work | Yea, i started it....then it became massively nerdy. |
| 03:43.03 | bluspacecow | are you white too ? |
| 03:43.07 | bluspacecow | white and nerdy ? |
| 03:44.23 | TC-Work | keep talking bluspacecow, you will give me an excuse to come to NZ |
| 03:44.40 | bluspacecow | ohh lala |
| 03:44.57 | TC-Work | to beat the crap out of you. |
| 03:45.17 | pompy | so mean |
| 03:45.21 | pompy | hostile! |
| 03:45.25 | TC-Work | yes and yes |
| 03:47.08 | bluspacecow | i better get a haircut then |
| 03:47.18 | bluspacecow | must look good for my TC-Work beat down. |
| 03:50.47 | pompy | crazy :x http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2012/05/24/38-studios-is-closing-its-doors-today/ |
| 03:50.50 | pompy | http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2012/05/24/38-studios-is-closing-its-doors-today/ |
| 03:51.55 | TC-Work | bluspacecow: hmm...flights to Auckland are a bit on the pricy side....you may yet escape. |
| 04:00.40 | Dagmar | pompy: That's kinda sad. KoA was pretty slick work |
| 04:05.58 | pompy | Yeahh. |
| 04:15.28 | pompy | http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mission/2012/05/24/dont-worry-former-employees-of-38-studios-the-internet-has-got-your-back/ |
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| 04:25.54 | kd3 | ! http://imgur.com/ZgZPl |
| 04:26.42 | Dagmar | A little denatured alcohol will clean it up the rest of the way |
| 04:29.31 | karl_w_w | http://www.catchoftheday.com.au/ just add water? |
| 04:31.05 | Dagmar | Maybe some legal vouchers |
| 04:31.20 | Dagmar | They're hardly ever enforced, but most places you have to obtain a permit for fishing |
| 04:32.46 | Dagmar | I suppose using a pole like that tho, the wardens are more likely to just take pity on you |
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| 05:46.00 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 05:46.07 | Fisker | you play xbox? |
| 05:57.58 | AcidWeb | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=256514&postcount=3 |
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| 06:01.55 | StormwindIInfant | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:06.39 | Mr_Rabies | pet battles still NYI in beta? |
| 06:08.15 | karl_w_w | StormwindIInfant: it will happen as it is read from the macro, but there is a delay on equipping things it doesn't happen instantly |
| 06:09.35 | karl_w_w | so essentially that macro should do what you want most of the time but I don't see a reason not to make a more sturdy version like this: (pause) |
| 06:09.54 | bluspacecow | Is LunarSphere and SpeakinSpell still being developed/worked on ? Do they still work ? kinda stuck on Red Dwarf Back To Earth Deleted scenes so can't check myself. |
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| 06:26.40 | StormwindIInfant | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:27.07 | karl_w_w | yeah cos the whole macro happens almost-instantly |
| 06:27.22 | karl_w_w | but the effects of the macro don't happen for a second or so |
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| 06:30.59 | Iriel | StormwindIInfant: the problem is that the "world" reacting to your commands doesn't happen until after control returns from the macro |
| 06:32.05 | Arrowmaster | so theres this new manga entertainment app on the xbox that i was checking out, wanted to see how good the quality of the videos where so i started playing some macross movie |
| 06:32.15 | Arrowmaster | i have no fucking clue what the hell is going on in this movie |
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| 06:33.50 | Iriel | StormwindIInfant: it's not exactly speed, it's to do with how the game cycles between handling user input and handling world events |
| 06:34.13 | Arrowmaster | ok i seem to have found this movie on anidb, its a sequel to a movie version of a series |
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| 06:35.21 | StormwindIInfant | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:36.50 | StormwindIInfant | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:36.57 | Iriel | Right |
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| 06:37.44 | Iriel | StormwindIInfant: google "wow weapon swap macros" for all sorts of approaches folks have taken |
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| 06:43.00 | bluspacecow | interesting |
| 06:43.40 | bluspacecow | erm nvm |
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| 07:02.32 | karl_w_w | no bluspacecow |
| 07:02.43 | bluspacecow | hmmm? |
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| 07:12.40 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (~Kaydeethr@wowwiki/Kaydeethree) |
| 07:30.32 | karl_w_w | updating tools bluspacecow! |
| 07:33.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Kalroth (~md@mail1.retailplanit.com) |
| 07:33.28 | karl_w_w | oh good |
| 07:33.36 | karl_w_w | "failed to launch a critical file" |
| 07:33.43 | karl_w_w | thanks for the launcher update blizz it helped |
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| 07:35.30 | bluspacecow | thats got something to do with agent |
| 07:35.37 | karl_w_w | it always does |
| 07:36.28 | bluspacecow | i would check the logs in the agent folders in the batte.net folder. there's specific folders and logs for each agent version |
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| 07:59.36 | sintAcks | bluspacecow, tell blizzard to stop failing at UI in D3 |
| 08:00.29 | bluspacecow | should log exactly which file it failed to launch in a AgentErrorsxxxxx file |
| 08:12.10 | karl_w_w | it didnt |
| 08:12.12 | sintAcks | quick. someone tell me not to join reddit. |
| 08:12.37 | karl_w_w | sintAcks join reddit |
| 08:12.43 | sintAcks | okay |
| 08:12.46 | sintAcks | wait. you dirty bastard. |
| 08:13.19 | sintAcks | click on "login or register" "you'll need to login or register to do that" |
| 08:13.21 | sintAcks | dafuq |
| 08:14.40 | sintAcks | dafuq^2. some bastard has my name. and has has for 5 years. |
| 08:15.32 | Kaylin | clearly because they were trying to make you do both, you need to find the login xor register button |
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| 08:46.35 | sintAcks | oh god i'm never going to leave the computer again |
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| 08:55.01 | karl_w_w | fig leave? |
| 08:55.31 | karl_w_w | it's nearly 5pm sintAcks |
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| 09:00.36 | karl_w_w | http://notalwaysright.com/dovahkiins-day-off/19832 hahaha |
| 09:03.19 | Computerpunk | http://notalwaysright.com/dovahkiins-day-off/19832 |
| 09:03.21 | Computerpunk | lol |
| 09:03.25 | Computerpunk | I mean karl_w_w. XD lol |
| 09:04.06 | Humbedooh | hahaha |
| 09:06.53 | sintAcks | lol karl_w_w |
| 09:06.58 | cbreak-work | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/5743-You-Should-Be-Mad-at-Diablo-IIIs-Always-Online-DRM |
| 09:07.04 | karl_w_w | http://notalwaysright.com/spelling-gone-rogue/8515 and a clearly WoW one |
| 09:07.06 | sintAcks | that's the kind of shit people need to film and upload when it actually hapepnes |
| 09:07.23 | sintAcks | Why would I be mad about their Always online NOT DRM |
| 09:07.58 | sintAcks | 20 second intros annoy me |
| 09:08.01 | sintAcks | finds something else |
| 09:08.35 | cbreak-work | what not drm? |
| 09:08.43 | sintAcks | D3's always online |
| 09:09.01 | cbreak-work | yes. For DRM reasons. |
| 09:09.05 | cbreak-work | -> DRM |
| 09:09.12 | sintAcks | isn't for "DRM reasons" |
| 09:09.15 | cbreak-work | if something is done to manage digital rights |
| 09:09.17 | cbreak-work | then it's DRM |
| 09:09.20 | sintAcks | is to protect the game from hax |
| 09:09.35 | cbreak-work | no |
| 09:09.49 | sintAcks | WoW is always online. so why no one complain about it's "DRM" |
| 09:09.56 | cbreak-work | being offline would protect you from hacks too |
| 09:10.13 | sintAcks | the offline part is where the hax come form... and then come to the online world |
| 09:10.14 | cbreak-work | probably more than being online |
| 09:10.31 | cbreak-work | tell me: How the hell would I get hacked when I am offline? |
| 09:10.49 | sintAcks | i never said anything about getting hacked... |
| 09:10.56 | cbreak-work | I could play Diablo from start to finish without ever contacting the server |
| 09:10.57 | sintAcks | i meant actually hacking game code. duping, cheating, etc |
| 09:11.11 | cbreak-work | where's the problem? |
| 09:11.19 | cbreak-work | If I decide to cheat then that only affects me |
| 09:11.21 | cbreak-work | why? |
| 09:11.24 | cbreak-work | because I am offline! |
| 09:11.51 | karl_w_w | it effects everybody because of the AH |
| 09:11.55 | sintAcks | Until you go online with your cheat stuff, and try to sell it or (when PvP is up) use it for an unfair advantange |
| 09:12.03 | cbreak-work | nah |
| 09:12.06 | cbreak-work | single player. |
| 09:12.19 | karl_w_w | truth is it's both |
| 09:12.21 | cbreak-work | I don't play with others, and I don't use the ah. |
| 09:12.27 | cbreak-work | while offline |
| 09:12.35 | karl_w_w | plus by being online all the time it makes multiplayer feel more accessible |
| 09:12.43 | cbreak-work | and you could easily limit the AH to online-only characters |
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| 09:12.57 | sintAcks | The only "offline single player" i would support them adding is a completley seperate side of the game. different stash, achimevents, Black smith, jewlewer, quest progress.. everything. a toon made offline, can not ever go online. |
| 09:12.59 | cbreak-work | multi-player is as inaccessible as blizzard's worthless servers |
| 09:13.01 | xyphoid | yeah i think the ease of getting into co-op games is one of the nice things about it |
| 09:13.17 | cbreak-work | since launch they had line 5% downtime at least |
| 09:13.28 | xyphoid | losing offline games is a downer, one-click playing with friends is cool though |
| 09:13.46 | karl_w_w | i'm sure they weren't expecting over 6 million players in less than a week cbreak |
| 09:13.54 | cbreak-work | of course they were! |
| 09:14.05 | cbreak-work | do you think they are stupid? |
| 09:14.11 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 09:14.16 | karl_w_w | but that's beside the point |
| 09:14.17 | cbreak-work | they can just count how many Downloads they sold |
| 09:14.22 | cbreak-work | how many Disks they sold |
| 09:14.37 | cbreak-work | and just go from there |
| 09:14.42 | karl_w_w | and then go back in time and tell themselves so they can prepare? |
| 09:14.51 | cbreak-work | why? |
| 09:15.00 | cbreak-work | it's not like they sold on the first day |
| 09:15.09 | cbreak-work | most of those were sold months ahead as preorders |
| 09:15.23 | karl_w_w | not most |
| 09:15.32 | sintAcks | Blizzard knew how many people were going to try to login at the same time. They did as much as they could (without spending millons on moar servers) to make getting online as smooth as it could be. -- Yes, I bitched and bitched for an hour and a half, but it was pretty smooth imo. |
| 09:15.58 | cbreak-work | smooth? It was garbage. |
| 09:16.40 | cbreak-work | but the launch wasn't the only problem |
| 09:16.41 | sintAcks | It was 1000 times smoother than trying to watch Blizzcon three years ago. |
| 09:16.50 | cbreak-work | after 90 mins or so it worked ok |
| 09:16.54 | arton | http://i.imgur.com/kisxf.png |
| 09:16.55 | Arrowmaster | between just their own store/anual pass stuff and amazon, they would have had a good estimate |
| 09:17.00 | cbreak-work | the real problem was that THE SERVERS WERE DOWN ALL SUNDAY |
| 09:17.18 | sintAcks | I wouldn't know about sunday: I didn't play all weekend. |
| 09:17.24 | wereHamster | #firstworldproblems |
| 09:18.21 | cbreak-work | wereHamster: nah |
| 09:18.22 | sintAcks | repeated: WoW is always online. so why no one complain about it's "DRM" |
| 09:18.32 | cbreak-work | do you think you could play diablo better in the second or third world? |
| 09:18.38 | cbreak-work | sintAcks: WoW is an MMO |
| 09:18.41 | cbreak-work | Diablo is not. |
| 09:18.48 | sintAcks | so. sometimes i don't want to play with other people. |
| 09:18.55 | sintAcks | so why do i have to have an internet conn3ection |
| 09:18.55 | cbreak-work | the only reason to be always online with diablo is for DRM |
| 09:19.21 | sintAcks | protection of digital goods |
| 09:19.22 | cbreak-work | the servers do NOTHING that the client could not also do |
| 09:19.31 | cbreak-work | it has no persistent world such as in WoW |
| 09:19.32 | sintAcks | someone already proved that they do, actually. |
| 09:19.39 | sintAcks | the client could be changed to do them, but meh |
| 09:19.39 | cbreak-work | it has no multi user such as in wow |
| 09:19.59 | arton | neeeeeeeeeeeeeerds |
| 09:20.01 | sintAcks | the server makes the world. the server makes the loot random. |
| 09:20.13 | arton | <-- nerdist |
| 09:20.15 | sintAcks | game would have to be redone, massively patched, to add an offline mode. |
| 09:20.19 | cbreak-work | nah |
| 09:20.29 | cbreak-work | you'd just have to put that stuff into the client |
| 09:20.36 | sintAcks | and (unless they are fucking stupid) it would only be done the way i would support it: completely away from online mode. |
| 09:20.40 | cbreak-work | making a network protocol local is a small job |
| 09:21.03 | sintAcks | meaning you would have to buy to upgrade your blacksmith and jeweler again. and buy your stash. and not have any of the cool gear you have online, just so you can "play offline by yourself" |
| 09:21.09 | sintAcks | do you really want to have to do that again? |
| 09:21.12 | cbreak-work | do you honestly think there's anything the server does |
| 09:21.17 | cbreak-work | that can not be done on your computer? |
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| 09:21.31 | sintAcks | and then when a friend is like "dude. come play with me" and you're like "my highest online toon is only in nightmare" and they're like "lol u suk /leave" |
| 09:21.32 | cbreak-work | sintAcks: yes. |
| 09:21.56 | sintAcks | I didn't say the client couldn't make the worlds, loot, etc... i said it can't/doesn't, currently. |
| 09:22.08 | cbreak-work | that's not a technical problem |
| 09:22.16 | cbreak-work | that's because blizzard designed it that way for DRM |
| 09:22.31 | karl_w_w | and other reasons |
| 09:22.31 | sintAcks | If you really want to grind the gold to upgrade your artisins/stash again, you're a very weird individual |
| 09:22.37 | sintAcks | ^ |
| 09:22.45 | sintAcks | the other reasons are the important part |
| 09:22.46 | cbreak-work | sintAcks: have you ever heard of hardcore mode? |
| 09:22.57 | karl_w_w | you're either trolling or incredibly short sighted if u think DRM is the only reason it is online only |
| 09:22.59 | sintAcks | The DRM isn't going to do shit when people start making private servers. |
| 09:23.05 | sintAcks | and you know people are going to make private servers. |
| 09:23.05 | cbreak-work | sintAcks: that's much weirder than just replaying it once so that I can play the game while commuting |
| 09:23.47 | cbreak-work | karl_w_w: There are no technical reasons. |
| 09:24.28 | karl_w_w | yes there are |
| 09:25.16 | karl_w_w | unless you know a way to insure the toon hasnt been modified through cheating while offline |
| 09:25.31 | sintAcks | and hasn't duped items or gold |
| 09:25.47 | karl_w_w | s/and/eg./ |
| 09:25.58 | sintAcks | ^ |
| 09:26.41 | sintAcks | lawl. i like that "Customer Service will not revive a fallen Hardcore hero for any reason." |
| 09:26.54 | cbreak-work | karl_w_w: it doesn't fucking matter if someone cheated gold out of thin air |
| 09:26.55 | cbreak-work | or not |
| 09:27.04 | karl_w_w | maybe not to you |
| 09:27.05 | cbreak-work | it's single player |
| 09:27.09 | Kaylin | even if they were directly PK'd by an in-game support rep? |
| 09:27.13 | cbreak-work | just separate those from online play |
| 09:27.15 | cbreak-work | and you're fine |
| 09:27.21 | karl_w_w | no |
| 09:27.35 | sintAcks | lol Kaylin |
| 09:27.54 | karl_w_w | seperating online and offline toons is only a solution to the aforementioned technical limitation |
| 09:27.59 | karl_w_w | and it comes with it's own drawbacks |
| 09:28.04 | Kaylin | Yes I'll need to know some information so I can find you in game to troubleshoot this issue, here try joining an arena with me. |
| 09:28.10 | cbreak-work | there is no technical limitation... |
| 09:28.24 | karl_w_w | oh so you do you know a way to insure the toon hasnt been modified through cheating while offline? |
| 09:28.25 | sintAcks | cbreak, that's what i've been saying the whole time... and no one (no one never means no one and never never means never) is going to like that. no one is going to want to have sperate toons. |
| 09:28.28 | sintAcks | fuck spelling |
| 09:28.47 | karl_w_w | s/do you/do/ |
| 09:29.20 | cbreak-work | karl_w_w: if I play solo, the only one that matters with respect to cheating is me. |
| 09:29.27 | Kaylin | there's no such way, though I feel preventing users from creating their own items offline is not something we should worry about on that level |
| 09:29.31 | cbreak-work | if I am online I have to trust blizz's server |
| 09:29.34 | cbreak-work | while offline I do not have |
| 09:29.35 | Kaylin | clearly some people want to play that way, why not let them |
| 09:29.38 | cbreak-work | and statistically |
| 09:29.39 | karl_w_w | until you take your cheated gold to the AH and drive prices up |
| 09:29.47 | cbreak-work | the servers cheated me out of my own loot way more than I did |
| 09:29.47 | Kaylin | the issue there is if I don't want to play with them I shouldn't have to. |
| 09:30.20 | cbreak-work | and the game isn't even two weeks old |
| 09:31.42 | sintAcks | Well, for one, when you bought the game, you knew then, that it REQUIRES an Internet connection. If you don't like that "DRM" don't support Blizzard and buy the game and then bitch about it afterwards. |
| 09:33.25 | cbreak-work | I bought it and now I have all right to complain |
| 09:33.32 | cbreak-work | I am a valued customer after all :) |
| 09:33.33 | Kaylin | don't worry, we've learned a lot since we last released a Diablo game, all these issues will be fixed in Diablo 4! With 4 never before seen in Diablo characters! Panda, Murloc, Space Marine, and stranglethorn tiger! Choose your class and defeat demons with awesome leaping skills or thick space armor. Enjoy your ninja skills smashing things with your endangered panda or gurgle for more help with the adorable murloc! Requires an Interne |
| 09:34.10 | cbreak-work | I think your interne just stopped working :/ |
| 09:34.15 | Sintacks | oh god. that's worse than "I didn't vote, so I can bitch about not liking the pres" vs "You didn't vote; you don't get to bitch" |
| 09:34.35 | cbreak-work | Sintacks: if you vote then you can complain |
| 09:35.05 | cbreak-work | obviously about either not winning, or the winner not following up to his promises |
| 09:35.08 | karl_w_w | not if you voted for him |
| 09:35.16 | karl_w_w | and then complain that he is in office |
| 09:35.30 | cbreak-work | but you can vote for someone, that someone wins |
| 09:35.34 | Sintacks | Also, your statement about Hardcore is invalid. shared stash. shared gold -- yes, it's away from normal, and you can't get your shit from normal into Hardcore. it would be stupid if you could. |
| 09:35.36 | cbreak-work | acts contrary to his promises |
| 09:35.46 | karl_w_w | how is it contrary? |
| 09:35.51 | cbreak-work | and then you complain about that person being a worthless lieing scumbag |
| 09:36.07 | cbreak-work | karl_w_w: by saying "I will do foo" |
| 09:36.10 | cbreak-work | and then he doesn't |
| 09:36.20 | karl_w_w | you didn't know it was going to be online only? |
| 09:36.28 | cbreak-work | Sintacks: no, it's not invalid. |
| 09:36.35 | cbreak-work | Sintacks: have you ever played hardcore? |
| 09:36.39 | cbreak-work | what happens if you die? |
| 09:37.01 | wereHamster | you see a tunnel with a light at the end |
| 09:37.06 | Sintacks | anything ON THE TOON/IN IT'S BAGS, and the toon itself, is not play able anymore |
| 09:37.14 | Sintacks | but you still have a shared stash. the gold is still shared. |
| 09:37.18 | Sintacks | so you don't lose everything. |
| 09:37.21 | cbreak-work | and you have to start a new character |
| 09:37.23 | cbreak-work | at level 1 |
| 09:37.32 | Sintacks | but you dont' have to leve your shit again |
| 09:37.36 | Sintacks | level* |
| 09:37.40 | cbreak-work | so why is it so outlandish that I would start a fresh character for offline mode? |
| 09:37.46 | cbreak-work | I spend 2 hours commuting every day |
| 09:37.49 | cbreak-work | lots of time to do that |
| 09:37.56 | Sintacks | Fap |
| 09:37.59 | cbreak-work | nah |
| 09:37.59 | Sintacks | or play some other game. |
| 09:38.00 | Sintacks | or read |
| 09:38.09 | cbreak-work | you're stupid |
| 09:38.12 | karl_w_w | look out the window |
| 09:38.13 | cbreak-work | if you think that you can fap on the train |
| 09:38.14 | Sintacks | How the hell are you commuting that you would even be able to play WoW |
| 09:38.21 | karl_w_w | there's a big wide world out there passing you by |
| 09:38.25 | Sintacks | lrn2wireless |
| 09:38.43 | cbreak-work | karl_w_w: always the same |
| 09:39.03 | cbreak-work | Sintacks: I can't play wow while commuting |
| 09:39.13 | Sintacks | lrn2wireless |
| 09:39.14 | Sintacks | and you can |
| 09:39.16 | cbreak-work | but I could play a single player game |
| 09:39.19 | karl_w_w | (have children and then/)take your children to work |
| 09:39.20 | cbreak-work | no |
| 09:39.22 | Sintacks | yes |
| 09:39.24 | cbreak-work | wireless is just without wires |
| 09:39.33 | Sintacks | dot dot dot |
| 09:40.00 | karl_w_w | jeez is that what wireless means? :P |
| 09:40.11 | Sintacks | I thought wireless had more wires |
| 09:40.14 | cbreak-work | I can be wirelessly offline... |
| 09:40.22 | karl_w_w | yeah like priceless |
| 09:40.25 | Sintacks | wat |
| 09:40.31 | karl_w_w | .0 |
| 09:40.36 | cbreak-work | which is the only way to use wireless without paying a fortune |
| 09:40.38 | Maldivia | you can also be wired and offline |
| 09:40.39 | Sintacks | lol karl_w_w. nice one. |
| 09:40.49 | Sintacks | ^ @ Maldivia |
| 09:40.51 | cbreak-work | Maldivia: wires count as line :/ |
| 09:41.03 | Sintacks | If you want to play D3 while on the train, then spend the money for wireless. |
| 09:41.07 | Sintacks | or, read a book. |
| 09:41.12 | karl_w_w | move to a country that has wifi on it's trains |
| 09:41.13 | cbreak-work | that's what I do now |
| 09:41.28 | karl_w_w | its*? |
| 09:42.07 | Sintacks | I don't have a laptop, so I can't play D3 when I'm not at home. Blizzard should make it so I can play D3 when I'm on the bus. |
| 09:42.13 | cbreak-work | well, I see that you have no real arguments and just want to troll |
| 09:42.16 | cbreak-work | what ever... |
| 09:42.42 | Sintacks | you've ignored any real arguments anyone has said on the matter |
| 09:42.54 | Maldivia | why is this still an argument, they are not going to do it, so why waste time and energy discussing it |
| 09:42.55 | Sintacks | goes to D3 |
| 09:43.30 | AcidWeb | There will be any beta key give-away for authors when addons will be enabled in MoP? |
| 09:43.46 | karl_w_w | L2annualpass |
| 09:43.49 | Sintacks | Maldivia, I'm not 100% sure they won't. A lot of people do want it (now at least, without thinking about what it will actually do), and they might add the "Single Player Offline" mode, where all your shit is completley away from online and heroes can't go online, ever. |
| 09:44.04 | Sintacks | I could see them doing it, just out of peer presure. but if they do, i hope they do it the right way. |
| 09:44.05 | cbreak-work | Maldivia: it's a problem if they sell something and don't deliver |
| 09:44.15 | karl_w_w | what didn't they deliver? |
| 09:44.20 | Sintacks | AND IF THEY REALLY WANT DRM. Do with it what they do with SC2 Offline mode. |
| 09:44.23 | cbreak-work | Diablo 3 on sunday |
| 09:44.27 | Sintacks | Now, that, is DRM. |
| 09:44.47 | karl_w_w | I didn't realise there were SLAs cbreak |
| 09:44.59 | cbreak-work | I bought a game |
| 09:45.00 | karl_w_w | why didn't I get one? |
| 09:45.06 | Sintacks | AcidWeb, I would figure there would be some more beta invites going out to fan sites (including AddOn sites) |
| 09:45.08 | cbreak-work | games are expected to be playable |
| 09:45.20 | cbreak-work | that's inherent in the product |
| 09:45.44 | Sintacks | It does say though, that it isn't a guareteed thing |
| 09:45.44 | cbreak-work | I don't know how your country is, but here, buyers can expect a fitnes for its designated purpose when they buy a product |
| 09:45.51 | cbreak-work | it is guaranteed |
| 09:46.13 | cbreak-work | (law mandates warranty and so on for this purpose fitnes) |
| 09:46.34 | karl_w_w | if you didn't like the eula you should have uninstalled the game and asked for a refund |
| 09:46.45 | cbreak-work | no |
| 09:46.52 | cbreak-work | the eula isn't that inportant |
| 09:46.59 | cbreak-work | it gets overwritten by the law |
| 09:47.16 | cbreak-work | and I like diablo 3 as game |
| 09:47.22 | cbreak-work | (when it actually does work) |
| 09:47.30 | cbreak-work | so returning it is not productive |
| 09:47.48 | karl_w_w | the law defers to reasonable expectations |
| 09:47.50 | Sintacks | cbreak, if you aren't happy about the "fitness' you can return the product for a full refund, within 30 days. |
| 09:47.57 | karl_w_w | if the eula tells you what to expect |
| 09:48.08 | karl_w_w | then you're in a spot of bother |
| 09:48.15 | cbreak-work | the eula has nothing to do with it |
| 09:48.22 | karl_w_w | in what way? |
| 09:48.24 | Sintacks | and if "it gets overwirtten by the law" is so strong, why even make an ELUA... |
| 09:48.27 | cbreak-work | in any way |
| 09:48.51 | Adys | r/diablo about expansion story arcs: "Deckard Cain's evil spirit: Stay awhile and SUFFER." |
| 09:48.53 | cbreak-work | because the law doesn't define everything |
| 09:48.59 | karl_w_w | that doesn't make any sense |
| 09:49.02 | Sintacks | lol Adys |
| 09:49.08 | karl_w_w | the eula tells you what to expect |
| 09:49.24 | karl_w_w | the law isn't going to punish blizzard when you have been told what you're getting |
| 09:49.52 | Humbedooh | did you sign the eula before you bought the game? ;> |
| 09:49.56 | Sintacks | the only thing the "law" would have the power to do, is make blizzard refund your purchase |
| 09:50.09 | cbreak-work | karl_w_w: the law isn't about punishment |
| 09:50.20 | Sintacks | Humbedooh, that's not when you agree to it, and even after you agree to it, you can still get a refund (within 30 days) |
| 09:50.21 | cbreak-work | it just forces blizz to accept returns or warranty requests |
| 09:50.26 | karl_w_w | ah so the law is toothless now? |
| 09:50.29 | cbreak-work | no |
| 09:50.33 | cbreak-work | it's quite strong |
| 09:50.41 | karl_w_w | <cbreak-work> it just forces blizz to accept returns or warranty requests <- thank you, so you finally agree with me |
| 09:50.47 | cbreak-work | no |
| 09:50.54 | karl_w_w | when i said if u didnt like the eula ask for a refund |
| 09:51.06 | karl_w_w | so now you're agreeing that is what the law can get you |
| 09:51.07 | cbreak-work | read what I wrote: |
| 09:51.35 | cbreak-work | I wrote that the law mandates purpose fitnes |
| 09:51.52 | cbreak-work | so I am entitled as a buyer of a product to get a product that is fit for its purpose |
| 09:52.02 | karl_w_w | and if you don't get that? |
| 09:52.07 | cbreak-work | so I obviously also have the right to complain about any non-fitnes |
| 09:52.12 | cbreak-work | which is what I opt to do at the moment |
| 09:54.06 | karl_w_w | you're complaining that you got what you agreed to at this point |
| 09:54.13 | cbreak-work | no |
| 09:54.22 | karl_w_w | if it's not good enough, get a refund |
| 09:54.22 | cbreak-work | I am complaining that I do not get what I bought |
| 09:54.36 | cbreak-work | a game that works on sundays. |
| 09:55.03 | Sintacks | "My WoW doesn't work on Tuesdays. I want a refund. I also want all the money I spent on mounts and game time back too." |
| 09:55.06 | cbreak-work | every single damn sunday since launch it was unplayable (since the server was spittin errors) |
| 09:55.09 | karl_w_w | you bought an online game, you were then told it might not work on sundays or any other time and clicked ok |
| 09:55.18 | karl_w_w | complaining isnt going to change that |
| 09:55.21 | Sintacks | there has only been one sunday since launch... |
| 09:55.26 | cbreak-work | I was not told that it'd not work anytime |
| 09:55.29 | Sintacks | so "every damn sunday" was stupid |
| 09:55.39 | cbreak-work | Sintacks: no, it's true |
| 09:55.46 | cbreak-work | every single sunday. |
| 09:55.58 | Sintacks | It's only true because there has only been one sunday... |
| 09:56.05 | cbreak-work | well. Single. :) |
| 09:56.23 | Sintacks | I already hate you.. now you are just making me want to murder you. |
| 09:56.24 | cbreak-work | we'll see. Maybe after this weekend it's "Half of all sundays" |
| 09:56.32 | Sintacks | And I had no problems with you before this whole thing ... |
| 09:56.43 | cbreak-work | maybe because you're a blizz shill or something |
| 09:56.51 | karl_w_w | he's a very emotional sort, is Sintacks |
| 09:57.04 | Sintacks | wtf is a blizz shill |
| 09:57.10 | cbreak-work | don't know. |
| 09:57.14 | cbreak-work | I read it on some forum |
| 09:57.18 | Sintacks | then why the fuck would you use the term |
| 09:57.24 | Sintacks | that's like me calling you a ojasdghasdf |
| 09:57.27 | cbreak-work | it was a suggested reason |
| 09:57.35 | karl_w_w | A shill, plant, or stooge is a person who publicly helps a person or organization without disclosing that he has a close relationship with that person or ... |
| 09:57.36 | Sintacks | "DAFUQ DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?" "Idk. but you are one." |
| 09:57.57 | cbreak-work | I have no idea if you really are a shill, for bliz or anyone else |
| 09:58.13 | Sintacks | Oh fuck that shit: if I was helping Blizzard and had a close relationship with them, I'd lose it, cuz I'd loud mouth that I was. |
| 09:58.14 | cbreak-work | so "maybe". |
| 09:59.55 | Sintacks | If I were, GC or SM would fucking reply to me on Twitter when I asked wtf some weird shit was out in no mans land of vash |
| 10:01.57 | cbreak-work | I don't get the attraction of twitter. |
| 10:02.19 | Sintacks | I use it to bitch and complain to people who don't care |
| 10:02.24 | Sintacks | and to follow things i'm interested in |
| 10:02.28 | Sintacks | without using RSS feeds |
| 10:02.54 | cbreak-work | I'd imagine the character limit to be insufficient for real complaints :( |
| 10:03.14 | Sintacks | i can use woofer if i want to bitch more than 140 chars |
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| 10:03.49 | Sintacks | you HAVE to have at least 1400 chars there |
| 10:05.06 | karl_w_w | I don't see the point of twitter |
| 10:05.30 | Sintacks | what's the point of facebook/myspace/any social networking site/IRC |
| 10:05.52 | Sintacks | so we dont' have to go outside, where that evil bastard, the Sun, is |
| 10:05.59 | karl_w_w | i dont see the point in most of those either, beyond a few basic keeping-people-in-touch long term either |
| 10:06.01 | cbreak-work | Sun got bought by oracle |
| 10:06.03 | cbreak-work | the true evil |
| 10:06.08 | Sintacks | lol |
| 10:06.22 | Sintacks | What'st he point of D3 or WoW |
| 10:06.26 | Sintacks | What's the point of life. |
| 10:06.28 | Sintacks | What's the point. |
| 10:06.30 | karl_w_w | IRC is community support gone crazy :P |
| 10:06.32 | Sintacks | Okay, now I'm just trolling. |
| 10:06.36 | cbreak-work | life has no point |
| 10:06.42 | cbreak-work | At least none I could find so far |
| 10:06.43 | Sintacks | death is the point. |
| 10:06.49 | karl_w_w | life is like a broken pencil |
| 10:06.52 | cbreak-work | Death is "The End" |
| 10:06.52 | karl_w_w | pointless |
| 10:07.04 | Sintacks | the end is normally where the point of something is |
| 10:07.10 | Sintacks | so, the point, is teh end, that is, death. |
| 10:07.12 | karl_w_w | not really |
| 10:07.16 | cbreak-work | The way's the goal |
| 10:07.18 | karl_w_w | the point can be at the start |
| 10:07.19 | cbreak-work | for diablo 3 |
| 10:07.33 | cbreak-work | to be entertained while playing |
| 10:07.37 | karl_w_w | oh while we're complaining about d3, it's way too short |
| 10:07.41 | Sintacks | I was actually kind of dissapointed in the story of D3. |
| 10:07.49 | cbreak-work | karl_w_w: but it has replayability! |
| 10:07.53 | cbreak-work | nightmare and hell modes |
| 10:07.56 | cbreak-work | hardcore |
| 10:07.58 | karl_w_w | no it doesn't |
| 10:08.01 | cbreak-work | and you can spend real money on the AH! |
| 10:08.03 | Sintacks | yes it does, karl_w_w. |
| 10:08.06 | cbreak-work | and try different classes |
| 10:08.09 | karl_w_w | storyline makes replayability |
| 10:08.09 | Sintacks | i will agree with cbreak on this one. |
| 10:08.21 | karl_w_w | and the storyline is too short and predictable to be replayable |
| 10:08.23 | Sintacks | replay it with different followers |
| 10:08.24 | cbreak-work | (I was half sarcastic...) |
| 10:08.32 | cbreak-work | I like different characters |
| 10:08.36 | cbreak-work | (classes) |
| 10:08.44 | Sintacks | karl_w_w, do you play WoW? |
| 10:08.48 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 10:08.52 | cbreak-work | but having that ass kill lea again will be anoying :( |
| 10:09.04 | Sintacks | Do you stop playing after the first time you kill the end (of patch) boss? |
| 10:09.12 | Sintacks | no. you keep going back, every week, to do the same story again. |
| 10:09.13 | Maldivia | for solo play, the follower makes a huge part of the story, depending which on you pick (go scoundrel!) |
| 10:09.15 | karl_w_w | it's a different game |
| 10:09.36 | Sintacks | Maldivia, do them all. they all have different parts, and they all interact differently when you find new folowers |
| 10:09.48 | Maldivia | Sintacks: I know :P |
| 10:09.59 | Maldivia | Sintacks: but loke the snarky remarks from the scoundrel |
| 10:10.02 | Sintacks | karl_w_w, but it's the same concept: you finish something, and you can replay it, but it's the same thing.. so, it's either replayable, or it's /delete, never touch again. |
| 10:10.04 | karl_w_w | btw do all the classes have the same personality? |
| 10:10.11 | Maldivia | far from |
| 10:10.37 | cbreak-work | the enchantress is my favorite |
| 10:10.44 | cbreak-work | the paladin is annoying |
| 10:10.45 | karl_w_w | Sintacks: wow has a much better story than d3 |
| 10:10.51 | karl_w_w | templar |
| 10:10.55 | Sintacks | there is also that bit of replayability. they classes come from different backgrounds and have different backstories to talk with the three different followers |
| 10:11.03 | Sintacks | so there's what.. 30 different "stories" inside the game |
| 10:11.22 | karl_w_w | more stories doesn't make them good stories |
| 10:11.34 | Sintacks | valid point, albiet, not mine |
| 10:11.45 | Sintacks | fuck spelling. |
| 10:11.48 | Sintacks | albeit8 |
| 10:11.51 | Sintacks | fucking 8 |
| 10:12.03 | Sintacks | 5th grade spelling was the only class i ever got an F in |
| 10:12.05 | karl_w_w | 8? all at once? |
| 10:12.12 | Sintacks | Albeit was a word that year ... |
| 10:12.26 | karl_w_w | I bet you spell a lot wrong |
| 10:12.45 | Sintacks | I spell a lot correctly, actually. |
| 10:13.02 | Sintacks | And there their they're and your you're your and then than |
| 10:13.24 | karl_w_w | how about definitely? |
| 10:13.27 | Sintacks | no |
| 10:13.35 | Sintacks | can't think of more words ic an't spell |
| 10:13.44 | Sintacks | but definitely is definitely one of them |
| 10:13.55 | karl_w_w | necessary? |
| 10:14.07 | Sintacks | never found it necessary to spell necessary |
| 10:14.16 | karl_w_w | never eat chips, eat salad sandwiches and remain young |
| 10:14.18 | Sintacks | though i did almost just spell it incorrectly, even when copying yours |
| 10:16.11 | karl_w_w | that is the only mnemonic i remember actually |
| 10:16.15 | karl_w_w | the only useful one |
| 10:16.44 | karl_w_w | richard of york gave battle in vain |
| 10:17.27 | Sintacks | big beautiful roses occupy your garden but violets grow wildly |
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| 10:19.27 | karl_w_w | i've never needed to remember resistors :P |
| 10:19.42 | Sintacks | i went to school for that shit |
| 10:19.47 | Sintacks | still don't have a job |
| 10:20.10 | Sintacks | power is very important W / V*I -- I completley forgot the one for Ohm's law... |
| 10:20.27 | cbreak-work | U = R * I? |
| 10:20.29 | Sintacks | wait. that is ohms |
| 10:20.36 | Sintacks | fuck i've been out of school for too long |
| 10:22.08 | karl_w_w | btw definitely is easy, just remember it's based on finite |
| 10:22.21 | Sintacks | like i can spell finite |
| 10:22.25 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 10:22.38 | Sintacks | tyhat might help actually |
| 10:22.41 | Sintacks | i try tos pell it with define |
| 10:22.54 | Sintacks | and i spell british half the time... |
| 10:23.03 | Sintacks | s and c interchanged |
| 10:23.58 | karl_w_w | like, "Britich"? |
| 10:24.07 | Sintacks | lol |
| 10:25.33 | Sintacks | i also seem to do the doubling l and p |
| 10:25.42 | Sintacks | defence defense |
| 10:25.42 | Sintacks | offence offense |
| 10:25.42 | Sintacks | pretence pretense |
| 10:26.05 | Sintacks | and -ise vs -ize |
| 10:27.59 | karl_w_w | offence/offense, defence/defense aren't alternative spellings, they're different words |
| 10:28.23 | Sintacks | here they are... which makes me use the wrong one |
| 10:29.11 | karl_w_w | one is a noun and one is a verb, but I don't remember which is which |
| 10:29.13 | Humbedooh | defences karl_w_w's defense |
| 10:29.32 | karl_w_w | my fence D: |
| 10:35.45 | Cide | make expand |
| 10:35.47 | Cide | and then defense it |
| 10:35.49 | Sintacks | http://www.staplenews.com/home/2012/5/24/swimming-pool.html |
| 10:35.53 | Sintacks | giant WTF at the end ... |
| 10:36.05 | Cide | way too long |
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| 10:56.00 | Stanzilla | hello party people |
| 10:57.23 | karl_w_w | no |
| 10:57.49 | Sintacks | teh fuk. i can only comment once every 5 minutes. the fuck is this shit. |
| 10:57.58 | Sintacks | why the fuck did i join reddit.. |
| 10:57.59 | Sintacks | i hate you karl_w_w |
| 10:58.32 | Kalroth | hi Sintacks |
| 10:58.34 | Stanzilla | so Arrowmaster |
| 10:58.37 | Sintacks | hi Kalroth |
| 10:58.41 | Stanzilla | did you come up with a new spec already? |
| 10:58.59 | Sintacks | I removed all the text in my bookmarks toolbar. i don't like it. |
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| 11:32.46 | cbreak-work | I came up with a ton of new specs |
| 11:32.51 | cbreak-work | they all made me die even faster |
| 11:36.46 | karl_w_w | +absorb diamond skin, fire shock pulse, +damage arcane orb, arcane hydra, slow aura ice armor, mirror image, astral presence, evocation and blur or glass cannon |
| 11:37.21 | cbreak-work | I use -arcane power diamond skin, arcane hydra, arcane raind thingie |
| 11:37.39 | foxlit | invulnerable minions are just ridiculous. |
| 11:37.40 | cbreak-work | + damage weapon enchant and blink |
| 11:38.05 | cbreak-work | scary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT9i99D_9gI&feature=player_embedded |
| 11:44.07 | foxlit | died by 11k :( |
| 11:47.35 | karl_w_w | wow this neck i just got |
| 11:47.49 | karl_w_w | 5-10 damage, 61 int, 13% mf |
| 11:48.29 | cbreak-work | dupe it! :) |
| 11:50.56 | Wobin | -sell- it |
| 11:51.23 | foxlit | +103 strength, +22% mf, 9 minimum damage is what my templar wears. |
| 11:51.33 | Xzempt | anyone having issues with wowhead? |
| 11:51.51 | foxlit | if you're an int class, equip it, imo |
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| 11:58.42 | karl_w_w | foxlit it's replacing 2-4 damage |
| 11:58.46 | karl_w_w | hell yes equip it |
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| 12:06.22 | Wobin | the swedish entry for eurovision |
| 12:06.26 | Wobin | was so swedish |
| 12:07.25 | Humbedooh | Carola-esque or more ABBA-ish? |
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| 12:42.47 | karl_w_w | idea: turn around and run into diablo's trap |
| 12:46.35 | Sintacks | Diablo is a trap |
| 13:14.13 | wereHamster | and Diablo III is a tripple trap |
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| 13:29.03 | randomDude | Fisker |
| 13:31.57 | AcidWeb | Heh wowhead DDOSed? Somebody is very bored. |
| 13:33.03 | karl_w_w | some guy who ran out of things to do in swtor |
| 13:34.45 | AcidWeb | haha |
| 13:41.50 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://imgur.com/gallery/b71qF |
| 13:42.03 | foxlit | heh, so they did kinda sorta nerf critical mass |
| 13:42.20 | foxlit | or not, just intend to |
| 13:45.21 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:48.24 | Fisker | i have to pay a bill foxlit |
| 13:48.30 | Fisker | but my nemid is in my wallet |
| 13:48.36 | foxlit | fascinating, Fisker. |
| 13:48.40 | Fisker | i don't wanna |
| 13:48.57 | foxlit | Have you tried guessing? In one out of a million worlds, the number you type in will be valid. |
| 13:49.15 | foxlit | Just switch to that narrative, problem solved. |
| 13:49.22 | Fisker | i hope it's this world then |
| 13:54.04 | pompy | http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html |
| 13:54.06 | pompy | so close!! |
| 13:55.45 | karl_w_w | they're letting canadians into space now? |
| 13:56.16 | karl_w_w | awaits the inevitable mention of a known canadian being at large in space |
| 13:56.42 | karl_w_w | come on people don't let me down |
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| 13:57.02 | randomDude | hoho gringos |
| 14:01.10 | pompy | mitch0: ping |
| 14:01.28 | pompy | karl_w_w: it is the ISS! |
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| 14:01.55 | karl_w_w | the ISS is canadian? |
| 14:02.15 | randomDude | it's italian |
| 14:02.56 | pompy | lol |
| 14:02.57 | pompy | no |
| 14:03.05 | randomDude | i'm pretty sure it is |
| 14:03.05 | pompy | i think thats just the NA side of the ISS |
| 14:03.42 | karl_w_w | oh i see |
| 14:04.02 | karl_w_w | so the ISS has one NA parent and one Italian parent |
| 14:05.48 | pompy | karl_w_w: http://spaceflight1.nasa.gov/realdata/sightings/cities/skywatch.cgi?country=Australia |
| 14:05.55 | pompy | not sure what city |
| 14:07.01 | pompy | actually http://spaceflight1.nasa.gov/realdata/sightings/cities/view.cgi?country=Australia®ion=Western_Australia&city=Perth ;) |
| 14:09.06 | randomDude | no karl_w_w |
| 14:09.21 | randomDude | the italian salt service has no parents |
| 14:11.28 | pompy | ahhh nasa and spacex should have used the SPPPPAAAACCCCEEE reference for Dragon |
| 14:11.32 | pompy | would have been so good |
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| 14:27.36 | Kraps | from the Something Awful game journalism thread |
| 14:27.40 | Kraps | "The real stupidity is in all the other news sites out there that picked up the story and ran with it. Rock Paper Shotgun tried to chastise Blizzard over this. The battle.net forum post they linked to that proved people with authenticators were getting hijacked read something like "I had an authenticator and still got hacked. Blizzard sucks, 0/10" Yeah, sounds reliable. A CM later replied to... |
| 14:27.42 | Kraps | ...the thread outing him as not having one. None of the news sites reporting Blizzard's apparently appalling security have yet to issue any sort of redaction. Journalism." |
| 14:32.49 | Fisker | hey Kraps |
| 14:32.53 | Fisker | wanna kill all humans |
| 14:33.11 | Kraps | all seems a bit much |
| 14:33.19 | Kraps | i'll go for most |
| 14:34.43 | mikma | moist? |
| 14:39.24 | mikma | hehe, 14 things only seen in movies, nr.8 - never using the spacebar |
| 14:39.51 | mikma | "Entire novels have been writetn on screen at breathtaking speed without the author hitting space even one single time." |
| 14:40.04 | mikma | "That's the kind of technology we really, really need.") |
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| 14:54.56 | Unkle | http://www.thisiscolossal.com/2012/05/first-contact/ |
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| 15:18.22 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZjAantupsA holy crap that's geordie |
| 15:31.26 | zenzelezz | it's a bit awkward when you're in a public restroom, minding your own business, when suddenly you receive a message - making your phone proclaim loudly "KABOOM BABY!" |
| 15:34.09 | karl_w_w | s/kward/esome/ |
| 15:35.29 | Unkle | I need to set my text alert to the "Zzzzzzzt. … Message for you sir." line from Monthy Python and the Holy Grail. |
| 15:35.43 | zenzelezz | =D |
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| 16:08.33 | Fisker | i like you bluspacecow |
| 16:11.51 | karl_w_w | yes Fisker |
| 16:12.07 | mckenziemc | stabs Fisker with a large cupcake. |
| 16:15.47 | Fisker | nope karl_w_w |
| 16:23.45 | karl_w_w | yes Fisker |
| 16:24.02 | karl_w_w | robot unicorn attack score of 33954 |
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| 17:13.28 | Unkle | Perhaps I should stop reading UI&M. More and more often I'm tempted to just answer "go read the damned instructions for your AddOn, or go fuck yourself." |
| 17:13.49 | Maldivia | but that would solve so many problems... |
| 17:14.09 | kd3 | wait, wait... 'or'? |
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| 17:14.34 | Unkle | s/or/and |
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| 17:20.14 | Seerah | oftentimes I feel like it's not worth it to even log in to answer.... I do still check daily, but... |
| 17:21.06 | Unkle | I'm a jerk. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/5271501355#4 |
| 17:21.39 | zenzelezz | masochists |
| 17:21.55 | Seerah | nah |
| 17:22.00 | Seerah | (to Unkle) |
| 17:22.06 | Seerah | to zenzelezz... /shrug |
| 17:22.17 | Unkle | Hurt me baby one more time? |
| 17:23.14 | Kraps | Unkle, even if the macro was created prior to the current session? |
| 17:23.28 | mckenziemc | ^ |
| 17:23.33 | Unkle | Kraps: Crashes wite crap. |
| 17:23.38 | Unkle | And yes. |
| 17:23.51 | mckenziemc | no, they're not supposed to, and they usually don't |
| 17:24.12 | Seerah | the file was probably corrupted |
| 17:24.45 | kd3 | holy crap, a masked tanuki critter |
| 17:24.58 | F16Gaming | Unkle: io |
| 17:25.03 | F16Gaming | stupid enter key :/ |
| 17:25.48 | F16Gaming | Unkle: i've had times when a crash would wipe the saved vars of *some* addons (when it crashes during a load screen). |
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| 17:27.05 | Cide | foxlit: have you encountered any of the monsters that explode on death (into eels and whatever) with illusionist? |
| 17:27.50 | foxlit | illusions generally explode |
| 17:28.08 | Unkle | Cide: Hate them so much. |
| 17:28.22 | Cide | if the mobs have an on death deal like the explode-into-eels thing |
| 17:28.25 | Cide | that one does regular damage |
| 17:28.32 | Cide | this kills the melee hero |
| 17:28.57 | foxlit | mm, I don't think I've ever been noticible hurt by those explosions, though |
| 17:29.14 | Cide | it does like 30% health to me on inferno |
| 17:29.18 | Cide | with 37k health |
| 17:29.27 | Unkle | I have - on my WD where I was up close trying to refresh my buff. |
| 17:29.34 | Cide | which really sucks if you get 5 illusions to explode at once |
| 17:29.44 | foxlit | and you're sure that's not someone's melee swing? |
| 17:29.45 | Unkle | But I'm only on Hell. |
| 17:29.54 | Cide | yes |
| 17:30.08 | Cide | like I know that the regular explosion does about 30% of my health |
| 17:30.18 | Cide | I haven't verified that the illusions' explosions do the same amount |
| 17:30.27 | Cide | but I got a chain explosion to happen and it insta-killed me -_- |
| 17:32.14 | foxlit | I've always considered those to be harmless fireworks. |
| 17:32.23 | Cide | are you on inferno yet? |
| 17:32.27 | foxlit | yes. |
| 17:32.38 | alestane | foxlit: I eventually solved my jump problem by applying enough of a vertical velocity to the jumper to peak just above the target point, and then enough horizontal velocity to travel the required distance in the time required to rise that high and fall back down the little clearance amount. |
| 17:32.41 | Cide | you play a wizard though don't you |
| 17:33.26 | Cide | maybe it's just me being biased as a monk but I feel like blizzard made most affixes way more punishing against melee |
| 17:33.49 | foxlit | yes, but I think I'd notice a third of my health bar disappearing for catching *one* explosion, let alone two or three |
| 17:35.18 | Cide | I would hope so |
| 17:36.48 | foxlit | I die to being vortexed into things. Or jailed into things. Or walled into things. Or anything with a Fast affix. |
| 17:37.30 | Cide | well, those are the times you are forced to take damage |
| 17:38.05 | foxlit | That's great. Seeing as to how I *can't* take damage, having times when I'm forced to take damage seems like faulting game design. |
| 17:38.23 | Cide | well, forced into melee range |
| 17:38.43 | Cide | if you could prevent actually being in attack range of the mobs I would call THAT shitty game design |
| 17:38.49 | Cide | you have escape mechanisms |
| 17:39.30 | foxlit | inevitably on longer cooldowns than things I'm supposed to escape from. |
| 17:39.51 | Cide | teleport? |
| 17:40.08 | foxlit | 16 seconds. |
| 17:40.21 | Cide | my escapes are 20 seconds both |
| 17:40.26 | Cide | and I'm melee! |
| 17:40.31 | foxlit | you heal, brah. |
| 17:40.38 | foxlit | whee, that was horrible, sorry. |
| 17:40.44 | foxlit | needs to stop misreading things. |
| 17:41.03 | Cide | the healing is pretty shit at 60 inferno |
| 17:41.14 | Cide | 62 health per spirit, 37k health pool (which is low) |
| 17:41.27 | Cide | does not scale with vitality |
| 17:41.35 | foxlit | > 0. |
| 17:41.48 | Cide | it's a function of doing damage though |
| 17:42.03 | Cide | so sure, if I can stand there and deal continuous damage, it's decent |
| 17:43.30 | Cide | right now I'm facing plagued frozen arcane enchanted illusionist dark berserkers |
| 17:43.42 | Cide | and they're not very deadly unless I get caught and they one shot me |
| 17:43.47 | Cide | but my healing output is pretty much zero |
| 17:43.51 | Cide | due to constant kiting |
| 17:44.09 | foxlit | still act 1? |
| 17:44.38 | clever | foxlit: wizard has a rune to reset teleport if you take major damage |
| 17:44.44 | clever | so you can escape if you really need to |
| 17:44.58 | Cide | yeah, I'm just playing solo |
| 17:45.01 | foxlit | it's not a rune. |
| 17:45.13 | Cide | and act 2 is pretty much untankable for me |
| 17:45.13 | clever | i forget what it was exactly |
| 17:45.18 | Cide | and for my understanding for pretty much everybody |
| 17:45.23 | Cide | from* |
| 17:45.28 | foxlit | but then what? I mean sure, you could spec wormhole teleport. |
| 17:45.41 | foxlit | put four ports behind them and you, and most things will stop chasing you. |
| 17:45.49 | foxlit | But that doesn't help you actually kill anything. |
| 17:45.59 | Cide | so I'm just farming act 1 until my friends can start playing after finals |
| 17:46.56 | Cide | ring with 48 vit, 17 phys res, 4% life, +185 armor, 1 socket any good do you guys think? |
| 17:47.00 | foxlit | but it's not like even that passive is a solution to things having more mobility than you. |
| 17:47.04 | Cide | might be too low rolled stats |
| 17:47.18 | foxlit | no actual damage? |
| 17:47.22 | Cide | no, just defensive stats |
| 17:47.33 | Cide | all of them pretty much :P |
| 17:48.01 | foxlit | so like ~3k life, some mitigation and a socket. |
| 17:48.15 | Cide | pretty much |
| 17:49.06 | Cide | life and mitigation are pretty much >> anything else for me though |
| 17:49.11 | Cide | but I don't plan on using it myself |
| 17:49.17 | Cide | probably not worth selling |
| 17:49.18 | foxlit | depends on what you'd be exchanging them with, really. I kind of had the rings from the normal playthrough all the way to hell. |
| 17:50.04 | foxlit | 38 str, 33 dex, 27 int, 13 vit, 7% attack speed, +2 xp, 1 socket. Requires Level 25. << I mean, really? |
| 17:50.46 | Cide | yeah that's pretty good |
| 17:50.51 | Cide | does attack speed affect caster damage? |
| 17:51.20 | foxlit | affects your dps, and I think everything scales with dps |
| 17:51.50 | Cide | yeah, I haven't been able to figure out if "weapon damage" is the damage listed in the character sheet |
| 17:51.59 | Cide | anything else would be stupid but it's not totally clear |
| 17:52.15 | Stanzilla | it's not |
| 17:52.40 | Stanzilla | it factors in some stupid shit and I never understand it :D |
| 17:52.50 | Cide | is it something like "100% weapon damage per second"? |
| 17:52.52 | Stanzilla | monk offhands for example, no idea how the dmg calculation works |
| 17:52.58 | Cide | or "100% weapon damage per <attack speed>" |
| 17:53.05 | Cide | 1/attack speed I guess |
| 17:53.09 | Stanzilla | it factors in attack speed |
| 17:53.21 | Stanzilla | so it's like dps but per swing or so |
| 17:53.23 | Stanzilla | NO IDEA |
| 17:53.25 | Stanzilla | weird shit |
| 17:53.26 | Cide | if you equip an off hand you just get +15% attack speed and you alternate between the weapons |
| 17:53.41 | Cide | so you effectively average the two weapons you have equipped |
| 17:53.44 | Stanzilla | and what happens to the stats of the offhand? |
| 17:53.53 | Cide | they get applied like any other item |
| 17:54.01 | Cide | but stuff like +attack speed only affects swings with that weapon |
| 17:54.12 | Cide | +0.x attacks per second affect both weapons as I understand it though |
| 17:54.19 | Cide | which makes it an amazing stat for monks |
| 17:54.23 | Cide | if you dual wield |
| 17:54.28 | Cide | which nobody does |
| 17:54.38 | Cide | still a good stat I think |
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| 17:54.52 | Stanzilla | my offhand has more dps than my mainhand and I switch them nothing happens :D |
| 17:55.04 | Cide | it's not main and off |
| 17:55.07 | Cide | they are both treated equally |
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| 17:56.48 | Stanzilla | so for damage calculation they just use (dmg_from_weapon_1 + dmg_from_weapon_2) / 2 ? |
| 17:57.42 | Cide | not sure |
| 17:58.02 | Cide | either that or your abilities also use the "next weapon to swing" to calculate damage |
| 17:58.17 | Cide | so if you equip a 1 dps weapon every other swing will do no damage |
| 17:58.43 | foxlit | I think the Damage number is the answer to the following question: if you stood in melee range and auto-attacked a training dummy, how much damage would you deal per 1 second? |
| 18:01.10 | foxlit | like how some champion packs aren't linked properly and give you 3 stacks of valor |
| 18:01.23 | Cide | haven't seen that |
| 18:01.26 | Cide | that's pretty awesome |
| 18:04.19 | Stanzilla | did you see how buggy the adds on diablo are? after that nothing can surprise me |
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| 18:06.21 | foxlit | Stanzilla: no? |
| 18:07.44 | foxlit | I am slightly annoyed they don't cancel spell effects during the port dialogs (results in things like you standing in a fire or in a cage while diablo ports you), but it doesn't seem like those actually kill you |
| 18:07.46 | Stanzilla | foxlit: they can't path around the cracks in the ground |
| 18:07.54 | Stanzilla | so they just stand there, do nothing and despawn |
| 18:08.31 | foxlit | that doesn't sound familiar |
| 18:08.41 | cogwheel | did they increase the global magic drop rate? |
| 18:08.49 | cogwheel | i seem to be getting a lot of rares this morning |
| 18:09.10 | Stanzilla | http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUeBMccz-PDZf6OB4aV6a3eA&v=J5CkIiNxEUE&feature=player_detailpage#t=420s |
| 18:13.00 | Arrowmaster | looks like they hotfixed Boneweave Hauberk too |
| 18:13.29 | foxlit | and going to hotfix Critical Mass <3 |
| 18:13.50 | Arrowmaster | they already did |
| 18:14.38 | foxlit | so no more infinite diamond skin? |
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| 18:15.18 | Arrowmaster | yeah now i need to find a new build |
| 18:15.31 | Arrowmaster | probably back to kiting |
| 18:17.20 | foxlit | dammit. Give the templar a stun, and he'll interrupt the 5-second telegraph abilities that weren't going to hit you anyway. |
| 18:20.22 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if living lightning can still proc paralysis a lot |
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| 18:21.26 | Arrowmaster | i think they nerfed that to |
| 18:21.36 | Arrowmaster | doesnt seem to be stunning at all |
| 18:24.23 | Arrowmaster | ok yeah living lightning IS NOT PROCING PARALYSIS AT ALL |
| 18:25.06 | Arrowmaster | how fucking useless do they want most the wizard spells and passives to be? |
| 18:25.17 | Arrowmaster | im hitting 60 and switching classes |
| 18:25.20 | karl_w_w | +absorb diamond skin, fire shock pulse, +damage arcane orb, arcane hydra, slow aura ice armor, mirror image, astral presence, evocation and blur or glass cannon |
| 18:25.24 | Cide | go with a monk |
| 18:25.29 | Cide | so you can switch back once you try it |
| 18:25.41 | nevcairiel | the wizard managed to kill diablo without getting touched by him once, and you think it was ok? :P |
| 18:26.24 | foxlit | nevcairiel: considering the diablo fight, yes |
| 18:26.35 | foxlit | It's the world finals of "don't stand in shit, part 4" |
| 18:26.42 | Arrowmaster | yeah the boss fights are stupidly easy compared to champ packs |
| 18:26.58 | Arrowmaster | im getting killed by normal mobs right now |
| 18:27.01 | Arrowmaster | fuck this shit |
| 18:27.05 | nevcairiel | did you see that video? diablo didnt even move more then a yard because he was frozen or stunned permanently :P |
| 18:27.19 | foxlit | okay, then you're referring to a different wizard. |
| 18:27.37 | karl_w_w | than* |
| 18:27.39 | foxlit | "Did you think it was okay that diablo was stunned for the whole fight?" would've been a better question |
| 18:27.48 | nevcairiel | if you can do something like that, it will get nerfed |
| 18:27.50 | foxlit | karl_w_w: noty. |
| 18:27.57 | cbreak | nevcairiel: if a wizzard is touched by diablo he's dead |
| 18:27.58 | nevcairiel | most likely quick and dirty, and properly corrected later |
| 18:28.47 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: the guys gear was all crit and attack speed, they should have done something so stacking those high wasnt as effective instead of making two passives fucking useless |
| 18:28.50 | karl_w_w | diablo may as well be stunned anyway. given he spends half his time casting useless spells :P |
| 18:29.03 | Cide | only if you build wizards like the glass cannons people have built them like |
| 18:29.21 | Cide | and they have built them that way simply because of bugged/poorly designed abilities and passives |
| 18:29.41 | Cide | if you look at monks in inferno you see stuff like 50k health in act 1 |
| 18:29.43 | Arrowmaster | its still impossible survive a hit in inferno |
| 18:29.51 | Cide | probably up toward 100k or more in act 4 |
| 18:30.01 | karl_w_w | Cide, people wanting to tank things don't roll wizard in the first place |
| 18:30.06 | Cide | so? |
| 18:30.09 | Cide | tanking != not getting hit |
| 18:30.22 | nevcairiel | sure, but its normal for hotfixes to just nerf the spell quite a bit, and an upcoming patch to re-evaluate the mechanic |
| 18:30.26 | karl_w_w | clearly |
| 18:30.26 | Cide | if you never get hit you are invulnerable |
| 18:30.30 | Cide | that is not the intention |
| 18:30.33 | Arrowmaster | which is why im probably going to hit 60 and quit the game till they fix the shit |
| 18:30.37 | Cide | fix what shit |
| 18:30.38 | Cide | they just fixed it |
| 18:30.45 | Cide | get some vitality and armor and resistances |
| 18:30.48 | Arrowmaster | kiting when you will be 1 shot is not fun |
| 18:30.51 | Cide | get some vitality and armor and resistances |
| 18:30.53 | nevcairiel | he is sad his favorite spell combo doesnt work anymore |
| 18:31.10 | Arrowmaster | i only used it for a few hours on one day |
| 18:31.14 | Cide | I play a monk and when I hit inferno I was getting 3-shot by regular enemies |
| 18:31.19 | Arrowmaster | it was nice to do something other than fucking kite |
| 18:31.22 | Cide | fighting a single pack of 3 white mobs killed me in 2 seconds |
| 18:31.30 | nevcairiel | every range kites |
| 18:31.34 | nevcairiel | thats just how it works |
| 18:31.46 | Cide | now I have 60% damage reduction, 42% dodge, like 20k more health |
| 18:31.54 | Arrowmaster | im not saying i want to quit because they nerfed wizards, im saying i want to quit because the end game is fucking broken |
| 18:31.56 | Cide | about 35% resistances to everything |
| 18:32.06 | Cide | why is it broken because you can't go glass cannon and expect to survive |
| 18:32.22 | Cide | besides they already stated they intentionally overtuned inferno and will bring it more in line with how they want it in a few weeks |
| 18:32.24 | Arrowmaster | because its not fun |
| 18:32.37 | Cide | if you DON'T go glass cannon you won't have to kite as much |
| 18:32.41 | Arrowmaster | wrong |
| 18:32.44 | nevcairiel | d2 hell wasnt all that different, i also had to kite quite alot |
| 18:32.46 | Cide | right |
| 18:32.50 | Arrowmaster | kiting spec is not glass cannon |
| 18:32.58 | Arrowmaster | its absolute shit damage |
| 18:33.12 | Cide | how much damage do you do according to your character sheet right now |
| 18:33.26 | Arrowmaster | 5k |
| 18:33.32 | nevcairiel | only? |
| 18:33.36 | Cide | and what's your weapon damage |
| 18:33.49 | Arrowmaster | 345 onehand |
| 18:33.56 | Cide | and what's your level |
| 18:33.59 | Arrowmaster | 59 |
| 18:34.08 | Cide | so my two one-handers do 700 dps each |
| 18:34.20 | Cide | if you were to get a real weapon you would do easily 15k or 20k |
| 18:34.22 | Cide | with some inferno gear probably more |
| 18:34.27 | Cide | just from act 1 stuff |
| 18:34.31 | Arrowmaster | which i will never get |
| 18:34.40 | Cide | it costs like 150k on the ah? |
| 18:34.47 | Cide | that takes less than an hour to farm at 60 in act 1 hell |
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| 18:35.20 | Cide | now, I sacrifice so much for survivability that I have 10k damage despite having two 700 dps weapons |
| 18:35.38 | cbreak | my onehander does 42 dps. |
| 18:35.41 | nevcairiel | anyway, i thought diablo in nightmare was already stupidly hard, then i got a new weapon and suddenly it was easy, gear is crucial (obviously) |
| 18:35.43 | Cide | so if you spend 150k on the ah you will easily double your damage |
| 18:35.45 | cbreak | and I beat diablo solo :) |
| 18:36.03 | Cide | if you spend another say 250k on other items you will easily double your damage again |
| 18:36.24 | foxlit | where does one get those fabulous amounts of gold? I finished hell with like 200k total :( |
| 18:36.37 | Cide | where are you playing? |
| 18:36.40 | Cide | act 2 inferno? |
| 18:37.08 | foxlit | act 1. |
| 18:37.27 | Cide | just do "the imprisoned angel" runs with 5 stacks of NV |
| 18:37.33 | Cide | and ah the rares off the act 1 boss |
| 18:37.41 | Cide | not sure if the act 1 boss is a spoiler still -_- |
| 18:37.43 | foxlit | You're solving the problem for the wrong person |
| 18:37.49 | Cide | you asked? :P |
| 18:38.08 | nevcairiel | NV increases gold as well? |
| 18:38.10 | foxlit | scale back to when your suggestion to spend 250k would actually be of benefit to me :) |
| 18:38.28 | Cide | he was asking about end game |
| 18:38.32 | Cide | he gets NV in one level |
| 18:38.37 | Cide | at which point gold is trivial to get |
| 18:38.41 | Cide | nevcairiel: yes, 15% per stack just like MF |
| 18:38.47 | nevcairiel | neat |
| 18:38.59 | Unkle | As a friend of mine pointed out "SO MUCH GOLD!" |
| 18:39.22 | foxlit | point is, by the time I can easily farm act 1 ending, the upgrades cost about a million a slot. |
| 18:39.34 | Cide | nah |
| 18:39.51 | Cide | I've been farming act 1 ending for a week or two and purchased upgrades for like 250k a slot |
| 18:39.58 | Cide | maybe your gear is better than mine |
| 18:40.08 | Cide | or maybe monks have an easier time in act 1 (we certainly did when FoT+quickening was bugged) |
| 18:40.44 | foxlit | It could also be that I'm pickier about what constitutes an upgrade. |
| 18:40.51 | foxlit | but 730dps staves are hard to best :( |
| 18:41.00 | Cide | I had to do a lot of regearing in terms of switching out dex to vit |
| 18:41.05 | Cide | just to survive elite packs |
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| 18:41.16 | Cide | but Arrowmaster, once you get some actual gear you will have a LOT easier a time |
| 18:41.23 | foxlit | <3 Moon Clan Shaman |
| 18:41.35 | Cide | and you can do the tradeoff between vitality and damage depending on how much you like to kite |
| 18:41.52 | foxlit | although popping hydra around electrified things is probably asking for a swift death |
| 18:42.44 | Arrowmaster | doesnt help that the AH is down all the time |
| 18:42.48 | Cide | I thought you said electrified was not a big deal? :P |
| 18:43.13 | Arrowmaster | im just going to go play some iron brigade on the 360 and take my mind off diablo for a while |
| 18:43.21 | Cide | invulnerable minions, molten, waller, fast |
| 18:43.25 | Cide | this will go over well |
| 18:51.45 | Fisker | i like you Cide |
| 18:54.43 | Fisker | :( |
| 18:56.34 | Fisker | so Stanzilla |
| 18:56.44 | Cide | glad to hear, Fisker! |
| 18:56.55 | Fisker | good Cide |
| 18:57.00 | Stanzilla | so Fisker |
| 18:57.37 | nevcairiel | anyone know whats in the d3 launcher update? :d |
| 18:58.12 | Fisker | sgs3 yet Stanzilla ? |
| 18:58.54 | bluspacecow | nein |
| 18:59.07 | TC-Work | nevcairiel: new things |
| 18:59.17 | Stanzilla | Fisker: nope |
| 18:59.35 | bluspacecow | agent.976/launcher.1608 no clue whats new |
| 19:00.14 | Fisker | can i also get the build numbers for the update and not the changes as i asked for |
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| 19:00.18 | Fisker | why not Stanzilla ? |
| 19:00.54 | Stanzilla | Fisker: because I don't want it |
| 19:01.02 | Fisker | why not Stanzilla ? |
| 19:01.16 | Stanzilla | i think it's ugly |
| 19:02.20 | Fisker | but it isn't |
| 19:03.48 | Fisker | the verge made a pretty funny review |
| 19:04.14 | Fisker | Aesthetically challenged, TouchWiz takes getting used to, S Voice is no less of a gimmick than Siri, Samsung has a history of failing to update phones on time |
| 19:04.51 | Stanzilla | sounds like I really don't want it |
| 19:04.58 | Fisker | not even sure how "S Voice is no less of a gimmick than Siri" can be a con |
| 19:05.00 | Fisker | Stanzilla why not? |
| 19:05.08 | Cide | wow |
| 19:05.13 | Cide | I'm actually amazed by how useful mystic ally is |
| 19:05.17 | Fisker | it's funny because their "cons" were made up on the spot |
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| 19:28.09 | Kaylin | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=27844684543 never thought I'd see this happen. |
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| 19:30.33 | Fisker | Why not? |
| 19:30.57 | Fisker | Thought they already did run it on new hardware |
| 19:31.28 | Kaylin | nope not yet, I don't think they've changed anything major since wc3 |
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| 19:44.07 | Unkle | At least they haven't pulled an UbiSoft and just killed a game by nuking the server. |
| 19:44.15 | cogwheel | did they nerf waller? i'm only seeing one short wall instead of a 3-sided box |
| 19:44.36 | Unkle | cogwheel: I saw the three-sided box this morning. |
| 19:45.01 | cogwheel | huh |
| 19:45.33 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 19:45.34 | Cide | I saw a 3-sided box about thirty minutes ago |
| 19:45.35 | Fisker | it depends on shit |
| 19:45.39 | Cide | ^ |
| 19:45.42 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 19:45.45 | Cide | it depends on your poop |
| 19:45.49 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 19:45.52 | cogwheel | i hate poop |
| 19:45.59 | Unkle | poop stinks |
| 19:46.02 | Cide | so do the wallers |
| 19:46.12 | Cide | hate poop, and stink |
| 19:47.16 | Unkle | Want to be funny on the internet? Dick, fart, and poop jokes never fail. |
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| 19:55.09 | Cide | or as I like to put it, just be like me |
| 20:04.57 | TC-Work | a massive douche? |
| 20:05.55 | cogwheel | shouldn't a hetero male be proud of being a giant douche? |
| 20:06.32 | Cide | certainly |
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| 20:10.20 | karl_w_w | i like when you get completely trapped by walls |
| 20:12.39 | Kaylin | likes when Alliance get completely trapped by rogues. |
| 20:12.41 | karl_w_w | "well be copying data from Azeroth/USEast which will mean an approximate four hour downtime" <- they can't copy without turning it off? |
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| 20:12.54 | Kaylin | no they cannot. |
| 20:12.59 | karl_w_w | Alliance? what's that? |
| 20:18.07 | Jamash | Anyone want to buy a [PH] This text should be replaced with game data? |
| 20:18.48 | karl_w_w | not particularly |
| 20:21.23 | Jamash | http://imgur.com/CQ8hL |
| 20:22.12 | karl_w_w | so what I'm hearing is the AH is improving every day? |
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| 20:24.03 | Kaylin | Jamash: lmk when I can buy a PH item with real world currency |
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| 21:24.20 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2012/05/woopsie-grandma-slips-out-of-skydiving-h.php |
| 21:24.32 | mikma | so, why did they add such a joyful song in the video? :DDDD |
| 21:24.38 | mikma | cause it's funny |
| 21:55.09 | TC-Work | http://www.geekologie.com/2012/05/28-lb-sandwich-is-worlds-meatiest-most-k.php |
| 22:03.14 | TC-Work | http://www.geekologie.com/2012/05/21/pixar-avengers-full.jpg |
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| 22:12.24 | foxlit | wheh, molten illusionist plagued mortar. The only way this could get worse is if the next room has something movement-impairing in it |
| 22:13.17 | TC-Work | http://www.bestcollegesonline.org/geek/ |
| 22:13.50 | TC-Work | i would think unholy would be worse than plagued |
| 22:14.00 | TC-Work | or whichever one does the red circles on the ground |
| 22:14.31 | foxlit | desecrator, but odd choice |
| 22:14.42 | foxlit | plague lasts longer and occupies more space |
| 22:14.59 | TC-Work | but only triggers when they die right? |
| 22:15.15 | TC-Work | or does it simply noy hit as hard as desecrator |
| 22:16.42 | foxlit | no |
| 22:17.05 | foxlit | but okay, the pack in the next room was invulnerable minions desecrator frozen waller |
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| 22:20.27 | nevcairiel | they can place desecrator under you, which can be terrible annoying |
| 22:20.33 | nevcairiel | plagued at least only spawns under them |
| 22:21.51 | foxlit | I have no problem moving 2 feet. Since moving is primarily what I do |
| 22:22.13 | nevcairiel | i guess especially with mortar |
| 22:23.38 | TC-Work | and they do equal damage? |
| 22:23.40 | nevcairiel | i had something annoying earlier today, and that just in nightmare. You know these big guys in act 3 with their 2 maces that are really slow, but smash you when they hit you ... a rare + minions of those with vortex, pull you in, smash me all at once, death |
| 22:24.04 | nevcairiel | took me like 5 death to get through that f'ing group |
| 22:26.17 | foxlit | I remember crabs |
| 22:26.46 | Trela | Who is our slendermin? |
| 22:26.57 | Trela | Erm, wrong channel. |
| 22:29.41 | kd3 | "I'm learing how to slap the pain out of someone. How neat is that?" |
| 22:29.49 | kd3 | yay mistweaver NPCs in game |
| 22:30.40 | bleeter | I see 38 Studios has collapsed and left some developers with a second mortgage due to screwed up relocation schemes. Hope Slouken's OK :( |
| 22:31.44 | kd3 | hah, another choice quote: Someone was saying I was "overhealing" the other day. I am so confused. |
| 22:31.46 | foxlit | question: who is 38 studios, and why all the sadness about their demise? |
| 22:32.33 | kd3 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/38_Studios ? |
| 22:32.51 | bleeter | i'm not sad on their demise per se, just seems they've managed to screw over employees pretty well |
| 22:33.02 | bleeter | several times failed to pay 'em, etc. |
| 22:33.04 | kd3 | ^ |
| 22:33.30 | foxlit | yeah, so I read the lead-in, and all those questions remain |
| 22:35.07 | Cairenn | bleeter: he says he'll be okay |
| 22:35.22 | Cairenn | Hopefully he's right. Irena too. |
| 22:35.25 | bleeter | Cairenn: cheers |
| 22:35.44 | bleeter | foxlit: it's always a bit of a downer when coder companies go titsup.com 'coz of crappy management |
| 22:36.32 | bleeter | I can stomach companies going bust 'coz of shite code, the other's far more difficult to swallow. and I can't imagine slouken being involved with shite code that much ;) |
| 22:37.26 | foxlit | This Moon Clan Shaman champion pack is my favorite. It doesn't matter what their affixes are, they won't ever kill you |
| 22:41.54 | alestane | foxlit, the biggest reason we care is that two former Blizzard developers who were both dear to the WoW UI community were working there at the time. |
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| 22:44.36 | zenzelezz | from what I heard at least, several other companies are suggesting they apply with them |
| 22:45.01 | alestane | slouken is apparently turning down recruiting offers at the moment, I think he'll be fine. |
| 22:45.30 | zenzelezz | talented people tend to do so |
| 22:45.34 | alestane | And the former employees established a Twitter tag for recruiters to post to, and a google doc of potential employers. |
| 22:50.30 | bleeter | super streetfighter II with a portal gun http://youtu.be/FpMoCfALfsQ |
| 23:00.23 | cbreak | Nightmare's butcher is hard :( |
| 23:03.02 | TC-Work | not that i found |
| 23:03.24 | TC-Work | i just need to dismiss my follower nexrt time or i would have gotten all the achviements at once |
| 23:03.38 | TC-Work | achievements* |
| 23:05.15 | foxlit | some of those achievements are "on hell or higher" |
| 23:06.58 | cbreak | butcher twoshots me :( |
| 23:08.02 | cbreak | and anoying stuns, and grappling hook to pull me closer. Anti wizzard boss |
| 23:08.09 | TC-Work | foxlit: oh right. |
| 23:08.25 | TC-Work | he only stuns if you dont get out of the way. |
| 23:08.55 | foxlit | I think he actually always stuns |
| 23:09.07 | foxlit | but the moment is so brief, that timing a killing blow is probably going to be hard |
| 23:09.27 | TC-Work | i mean stuns you, not himself |
| 23:09.47 | foxlit | ah, sorry, conversation mixup |
| 23:10.00 | foxlit | dodge the hook, though |
| 23:10.15 | foxlit | It's telegraphed, you don't ever have to take it |
| 23:14.48 | foxlit | those fires, though. They're annoying :P |
| 23:15.00 | cbreak | so, finally beat him |
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| 23:15.11 | cbreak | just with meteor and diamond armor |
| 23:15.15 | cbreak | and running away lots |
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| 23:16.15 | foxlit | for style points, you don't actually want to be too far out of his melee range |
| 23:16.26 | foxlit | every pound attack you can bait wins you like 5 free seconds of DPS :P |
| 23:16.58 | cbreak | I just threw meteors at him when he ran into a wall |
| 23:17.31 | cbreak | and what a surprise, only loot is three useless blues |
| 23:17.55 | foxlit | you're really not going to see yellows from bosses until you hit 60 |
| 23:18.41 | cbreak | I did get yellows from the skeleton king in normal |
| 23:20.07 | foxlit | you probably got yellows from everything in normal |
| 23:20.19 | foxlit | first boss kills have a hidden magic find bonus :) |
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| 23:25.36 | foxlit | gr, the welcome pack for this dungeon floor is a horde electrified vortex desecrator spear-throwing goat :( |
| 23:25.57 | TC-Away | =-0987654321`234567890- -+ |
| 23:34.12 | TC-Work | i see my room is being cleaned right nowe |
| 23:34.15 | TC-Work | now** |
| 23:46.22 | Stanzilla | hey TC-Away's mom |
| 23:46.48 | cbreak | if I use a diablo weapon with +arcane damage |
| 23:46.54 | cbreak | do my spells do arcane damage? |
| 23:47.42 | TC-Work | a bunch of game deals "http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=amb_link_363197002_2?ie=UTF8&docId=1000800391&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1KG1G79AKJCVFV08CMNK&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1369966442&pf_rd_i=979455011" |
| 23:47.57 | TC-Work | http://goo.gl/P0yB2 |
| 23:48.01 | TC-Work | thats better |
| 23:48.16 | TC-Work | note: all pc games |
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| 23:59.38 | foxlit | cbreak: your spells probably do the damage type they specify they do |
