| 00:00.59 | xyphoid | apparently |
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| 00:08.29 | karl_w_w | why are there no hot people in politics |
| 00:08.50 | Stanzilla | there are |
| 00:09.15 | karl_w_w | such as? |
| 00:09.35 | Stanzilla | marina weisband! |
| 00:10.15 | karl_w_w | googles |
| 00:10.43 | karl_w_w | no, she's only hot for somebody in politics |
| 00:11.19 | karl_w_w | it is quite surprising to me, with the way society is going :P |
| 00:16.21 | Stanzilla | she's jewish so the big nose is a given! |
| 00:27.08 | BlackNet | http://wetlands.simplyaquatics.com/v/weapons/remington-870/IMG_5511.JPG.html here we go! |
| 00:29.50 | Dagmar | Probably more effective would be the words "wrong end". ;) |
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| 00:33.28 | BlackNet | hehe maybe |
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| 00:34.15 | TC-Work | BlackNet: luminecint paint along the counter-relief would be nifty |
| 00:34.27 | BlackNet | yup that's coming |
| 00:34.34 | BlackNet | i am well known for highlighting like that |
| 00:35.43 | BlackNet | trying to get a shot on my 1100 |
| 00:36.08 | pompy1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XiKgsbQ9gos LOL |
| 00:36.44 | foxlit | http://code.google.com/codejam/contest/1781488/dashboard#s=p2 << grumble grumble, it's DP, but it's refusing to fit neatly into a picture in my head :/ |
| 00:38.03 | BlackNet | 7http://wetlands.simplyaquatics.com/v/weapons/1100/IMG_5517.JPG.html this is on the 1100 |
| 00:38.06 | BlackNet | in my cabinet |
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| 00:39.02 | BlackNet | http://wetlands.simplyaquatics.com/v/weapons/remington-870/IMG_5513.JPG.html and this shows more of the relief on the face |
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| 00:59.03 | Jamash | are there any simple guidelines for 802.11n MIMO antenna placement? |
| 00:59.15 | Jamash | my router has 3 antennae on it and I have no idea how to orient them |
| 01:05.17 | BlackNet | straight up |
| 01:05.34 | BlackNet | rule of thumb is nothing in the 3 foot radius |
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| 01:12.27 | Arrowmaster | so theres a diablo3 advertisement on the 360 dashboard right now |
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| 02:21.18 | TC-Work | anyone know if magic weapon works for abilities or only physical attacks? |
| 02:21.35 | TC-Work | D3 wizard </context> |
| 02:21.52 | Jamash | I think so but not 100% sure |
| 02:22.20 | Arrowmaster | they do |
| 02:22.45 | Arrowmaster | i was using the spectral blade ability with a weapon that had fire damage, i kept burning things |
| 02:22.59 | TC-Work | no...magic weapon |
| 02:22.59 | Jamash | he means the skill, "Magic Weapon" |
| 02:23.28 | TC-Work | i know the effect will cary over |
| 02:23.48 | Jamash | the question is, does the buff to weapon damage affect non-weapon magic attacks |
| 02:24.46 | Arrowmaster | is that the skill that wizzards used to have in the beta back around patch 12 |
| 02:25.06 | TC-Work | http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#UegkSm!bYT!aZca.c Conjuration |
| 02:25.09 | Jamash | yup |
| 02:25.23 | Arrowmaster | then yes it effects skills |
| 02:25.35 | Jamash | awesome |
| 02:25.53 | Arrowmaster | what its only 10% now? |
| 02:26.02 | Arrowmaster | used to be 25% i thought |
| 02:26.16 | Jamash | maybe buffing all damage ever by 25% was too good |
| 02:26.25 | Arrowmaster | i was epic |
| 02:26.51 | Jamash | I'm sad that level up skill unlocks are in a fixed order |
| 02:30.01 | TC-Work | now that would be interesting....make every possible skill scaling, then everytime you create a new char, your abilites are in a random order |
| 02:30.13 | Jamash | means my chinese new year build won't be at max awesomeness until level 55 |
| 02:30.27 | Jamash | I was kinda hoping for unlocks chosen by the player |
| 02:31.04 | Jamash | instead of skill X and rune Y you'd be able to choose any skill you don't have, and any rune for any skill you have |
| 02:31.35 | Jamash | same for passives |
| 02:31.44 | Jamash | now I can't get Ballistics until 55 |
| 02:33.06 | Jamash | oh well |
| 02:33.15 | Jamash | something to look forward to I guess |
| 02:36.31 | TC-Work | interesting, ZAM got sucked into Riot's way of terming Dota-like games. |
| 02:36.43 | Jamash | how's that? |
| 02:36.58 | Jamash | is it better than "moba"? |
| 02:37.10 | TC-Work | that is theirs |
| 02:37.37 | TC-Work | the 'proper' one is ARTS |
| 02:37.39 | Jamash | seems pretty standard from what I've heard |
| 02:37.41 | TC-Work | action rts |
| 02:37.45 | Jamash | I've never heard arts |
| 02:38.11 | TC-Work | that would be the equivilent of it's latin name |
| 02:38.24 | TC-Work | equivalent* |
| 02:38.50 | TC-Work | D3 is an ARPG |
| 02:39.51 | Jamash | is the distinction here that you have direct, real-time control over a character? |
| 02:40.55 | TC-Work | they both are like that. It's more about how it's played. D3 does not need an overarching strategy |
| 02:41.32 | TC-Work | possibly in the D3 arena....but even then it's not quite the same w/o structures to destroy |
| 02:45.29 | karl_w_w | i had never heard of moba until a couple of days ago |
| 02:46.47 | karl_w_w | and really, it's probably the least descriptive thing ever |
| 02:47.31 | karl_w_w | you could call partypoker.com a multiplayer online battle arena |
| 02:49.20 | TC-Work | good lord this wowhead survey is horrid. |
| 02:50.14 | TC-Work | "#29 What sts would you like to show on your gamer profile" one of the options is 'username'...i am fairly sure that a username is NOT a statistic. |
| 02:50.26 | TC-Work | s/sts/stats/ |
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| 02:51.54 | karl_w_w | i just find it depressing that farmville gets a mention |
| 02:51.56 | TC-Work | "#30 How do you currently share you profile with others?" err...what profile....where... |
| 02:52.19 | karl_w_w | im ashamed of living in a world where farmville is an example on a gaming survey |
| 02:52.32 | TC-Work | why? it's a 'casual' game |
| 02:52.40 | TC-Work | like bejeweld |
| 02:52.50 | TC-Work | bejeweled* |
| 02:52.51 | Arrowmaster | except bejeweled is good |
| 02:53.05 | TC-Work | right, but thats subjective |
| 02:55.35 | Shirik | http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/understood-properly-the-death-star-is-not-worth-it/2012/05/08/gIQAgzUDBU_blog.html |
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| 03:19.12 | karl_w_w | * |
| 03:19.12 | karl_w_w | 9. I have stopped playing a game because (check all that apply) <- how can this question ever tell them anything |
| 03:22.27 | karl_w_w | why are nearly all of these games shooters |
| 03:22.48 | karl_w_w | i agree with TC-Work, this survey is horrid |
| 03:24.28 | BlackNet | tag line "if zombies chase us, i'm triping you" |
| 03:25.02 | karl_w_w | as in... turning me into tripe? |
| 03:28.02 | karl_w_w | 30. How do you currently share your profile with others? |
| 03:28.02 | karl_w_w | my answer: what profile? |
| 03:28.29 | karl_w_w | I find a nice silhoutte is quite effective |
| 03:28.51 | karl_w_w | s/tt/ett/ |
| 03:29.22 | BlackNet | i turned some sils into dust this past weekend :) |
| 03:30.33 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpPxWKkEuKw |
| 03:30.36 | karl_w_w | D= |
| 03:31.02 | BlackNet | sorry not going to watch that one. |
| 03:35.59 | karl_w_w | yeah i wouldnt recommend it |
| 03:36.51 | BlackNet | first im not in the mood to deal with social issues like that. |
| 03:37.05 | BlackNet | second am trying to get into a better mood by working on some photo's i just took |
| 03:39.09 | BlackNet | http://wetlands.simplyaquatics.com/v/weapons/saiga-12/IMG_5574.JPG.html been working on my new toy :) |
| 03:40.59 | kd3 | c'mon c'mon c'mon get in before I'm dead... |
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| 04:12.34 | BlackNet | my M1 garand turns 59 this month! |
| 04:15.14 | Fisker | i need a hero kd3 |
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| 04:16.05 | BlackNet | http://wetlands.simplyaquatics.com/v/weapons/remington-870/IMG_5513.JPG.html <<0----- LOL |
| 04:16.37 | Fisker | i'm so tired |
| 04:16.56 | BlackNet | physically or mentally |
| 04:17.10 | Fisker | physically |
| 04:17.56 | pompy1 | "The issue reported in bug 420667497951980 should now be resolved" |
| 04:17.58 | BlackNet | should sleep good tonight then |
| 04:17.59 | pompy1 | sweet bug id |
| 04:18.19 | Fisker | umad pompy1 ? |
| 04:18.26 | pompy1 | goto sleep |
| 04:18.53 | Fisker | can't |
| 04:20.11 | pompy1 | return 0; |
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| 04:25.52 | pompy1 | "XMPP Connections must be done over TLS |
| 04:25.52 | pompy1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:25.54 | pompy1 | hm |
| 04:40.32 | karl_w_w | now this is weird, my facebook people you might know apparently consist of lots of koreans i certainly don't know and have no friends in common with |
| 04:40.54 | karl_w_w | they are almost exclusively cute girls as well |
| 04:40.59 | karl_w_w | some kind of trickery going on |
| 04:44.26 | pompy1 | karl_w_w: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=0wqFL7dqHvA&feature=endscreen ;) |
| 04:47.33 | karl_w_w | i know what it is |
| 04:48.44 | karl_w_w | I'm a manchester utd fan (which i have never mentioned on facebook), and one of their second-string players is from korea |
| 04:48.48 | karl_w_w | that must be it |
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| 05:09.14 | Thunder_Child | what evers |
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| 05:15.12 | AcidWeb | Morning |
| 05:15.17 | Cairenn | hi hi |
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| 06:17.50 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 06:17.55 | Fisker | i'm getting my Diablo 3 CE tomorrow |
| 06:17.56 | Fisker | jelly? |
| 06:18.22 | Fisker | yeah you're jelly |
| 06:22.25 | Fisker | puts kd3 in a jar and sells it in a store |
| 06:22.54 | mckenziemc | euthanizes Fisker for free. |
| 06:23.11 | Fisker | thanks |
| 06:23.22 | mckenziemc | np |
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| 06:36.10 | Arrowmaster | gee i wonder who didnt fucking predict this would happen http://kotaku.com/5908975/remember-draw-something-millions-of-people-dont-like-it-anymore |
| 06:37.29 | Fisker | i stopped playing because zynga |
| 06:37.38 | Arrowmaster | ive never played it |
| 06:38.11 | Corrodias | today is the day i found out what it is. |
| 06:38.46 | Fisker | you draw something |
| 06:38.55 | Fisker | then a person tries to guess it |
| 06:39.14 | mckenziemc | 8=D |
| 06:39.18 | Arrowmaster | with no way to win the game |
| 06:47.09 | pompy1 | "OMGPop's already working on their next game, a hip-hop-inflected version of Farmville called Streets." |
| 06:47.11 | pompy1 | ..... |
| 06:48.53 | nilyaK1 | is that like dopewars with graphics? |
| 07:13.29 | zenzio | http://science.slashdot.org/story/12/05/09/1842227/israel-passes-photoshop-law-to-combat-anorexia - "The new law also stipulates that any ad which uses airbrushing, computer editing, or any other form of Photoshop editing to create a slimmer model must clearly state that fact." - about time |
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| 07:19.38 | Cairenn | now if only other countries would follow suit |
| 07:19.57 | zenzio | yeah |
| 07:20.35 | mckenziemc | points at blood elves |
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| 07:41.11 | Maldivia | well, the advertisement industry is also completely over-photoshopping, to a degree where it looks just wrong |
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| 08:39.46 | rtharper | Cide: clearly jnwhiteh will fit right in in Sweden: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZMLEYAycEk |
| 08:40.49 | bluspacecow | lol anthony head |
| 08:40.56 | Cide | haha, yep |
| 08:41.02 | bluspacecow | as giles in buffy "magic needs to be controlled" |
| 08:41.15 | bluspacecow | as uther pendragon in merling "magic needs to die die die die" |
| 08:41.39 | Cide | that is awesome |
| 08:42.44 | bluspacecow | and they both thought "magic is dangerous" …. from personal experience |
| 08:42.56 | bluspacecow | character parallels! |
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| 09:29.44 | Fisker | So jnwhiteh |
| 09:29.48 | Fisker | Uswede? |
| 09:31.16 | Fisker | Hey hasye |
| 09:31.24 | Fisker | Hasye |
| 09:31.34 | Fisker | Dsmnit bus |
| 09:31.42 | Fisker | Hey haste |
| 09:41.26 | Cide | rtharper: so I have a CS assignment due tomorrow |
| 09:41.38 | Cide | pretty much been on a coding spree running that song full time since you linked it |
| 09:41.42 | Cide | so thanks and I hate you |
| 09:41.49 | rtharper | hahahahaha |
| 09:41.52 | rtharper | nice |
| 09:42.36 | rtharper | Cide: then can you tell me wtf a "slan" is? =p |
| 09:43.26 | Cide | it's just (uncommon) slang for asshole/douchebag/idiot |
| 09:43.45 | Cide | I don't think there's an exact definition |
| 09:43.48 | rtharper | ah |
| 09:43.49 | rtharper | kk |
| 09:43.54 | rtharper | Another Swedish friend of mine didn't know |
| 09:44.10 | Cide | coincidentally me and a bunch of friends used to have regular LAN events called SLAN |
| 09:44.24 | Cide | now you know! |
| 09:44.25 | rtharper | haha |
| 09:44.58 | rtharper | awesome |
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| 09:48.15 | Cide | so DTDs define a tree structure, but does anyone know if the elements must be ordered (i.e. the first element being the tree root)? |
| 09:48.40 | Cide | also do conforming XML documents need to include the tree root or can they just include a subtree of the DTD tree? |
| 09:48.58 | jnwhiteh | Cide: I highly recommend the FFV battle music, it works quite well for battle-fury coding :P |
| 09:49.37 | Cide | I guess not, since the DOCTYPE tag includes the root |
| 09:49.43 | Cide | jnwhiteh: I'll try that out, thanks :D |
| 09:49.49 | Cide | how'd your interview go btw? |
| 09:49.57 | jnwhiteh | Cide: I think it went well, we'll fine out when they get back to me |
| 09:50.08 | jnwhiteh | unless krka wants to go find out for me :P |
| 09:50.16 | Cide | awesome |
| 09:51.26 | jnwhiteh | The recruiter teased me, telling me I might find out on Tues or wednesday.. now it's Thursday and (of course) I can't stop checking my email. |
| 09:51.38 | jnwhiteh | Having it sorted would make my life so much easier, I could just focus 100% on getting my thesis written |
| 09:53.05 | jnwhiteh | Anyone know what bluspacemonkeycowwork was referencing when he said someone might want to update wowprogramming.com? |
| 09:53.07 | jnwhiteh | damn lack of conetxt |
| 09:53.18 | jnwhiteh | Oh look, it's about to rain |
| 09:53.24 | Jamash | as I understand it, DTDs are bad |
| 09:53.37 | jnwhiteh | you might be thinking STDs |
| 09:53.50 | Jamash | hilarious |
| 09:54.11 | jnwhiteh | not terribly, no |
| 09:55.19 | jnwhiteh | Cide: sorry we didn't get to meet up, but I didn't get in until about 11:00pm CEST and had to leave right after my interview in the morning :P |
| 09:55.31 | jnwhiteh | the flight was a lot longer than I remembered |
| 09:56.16 | Cide | no worries at all |
| 09:56.20 | Cide | I was pretty busy as well actually |
| 09:56.30 | Cide | Jamash: fuck DTDs, but school is school |
| 09:56.49 | Jamash | ahhhhhhhh, school |
| 09:56.58 | jnwhiteh | So I'm speaking at Øredev 2012 |
| 09:57.00 | jnwhiteh | apparently |
| 09:57.07 | Jamash | in which one learns that doing things right is optional but following the rules is mandatory |
| 09:57.16 | Cide | hehe |
| 09:58.11 | Cide | well the assignment is checking if an XML document conforms to a DTD using DTD -> CFG -> NDPA -> NFA |
| 09:58.17 | Cide | so it's somewhat interesting |
| 09:58.40 | jnwhiteh | I haven't done anythign with NDPAs in a long time :P |
| 09:58.56 | Jamash | I have literally no idea what any of those acronyms except DTD stand for |
| 09:59.23 | jnwhiteh | Context-free grammar, Non-deterministic pushdown automata, Non-deterministic finite automata |
| 09:59.27 | jnwhiteh | as far as I'd use them :P |
| 09:59.36 | Jamash | ah ok |
| 09:59.58 | Cide | yeah, should have been NPDA and not NDPA but I'm bad |
| 10:00.11 | Cide | and what jnwhiteh said |
| 10:00.33 | Jamash | I think you had it right the first time |
| 10:00.48 | Cide | pushdown automata = PDA |
| 10:00.59 | Jamash | unless you mean non-pushdown deterministic automata |
| 10:01.02 | Cide | so it'd be NPDA or NDPDA but it's usually written NPDA I believe |
| 10:01.16 | rtharper | yes |
| 10:01.22 | jnwhiteh | This is really what they teach in school.. acronyms |
| 10:01.28 | Cide | true story |
| 10:01.29 | jnwhiteh | just to prepare you for industy, where everything is an acronym |
| 10:01.40 | Cide | my biggest problem with this course is that I haven't gone to lectures |
| 10:01.48 | Jamash | so wait, the d in pushdown is called out but not the d in nondeterministic? |
| 10:01.50 | Cide | and I have no idea what the swedish terms are or how they are pronounced -_- |
| 10:02.08 | Cide | yes, Jamash |
| 10:02.11 | Jamash | bah |
| 10:02.19 | Jamash | begone from my sight foul knave |
| 10:02.27 | Jamash | also I'm going to sleep |
| 10:02.30 | Cide | there's also deterministic finite automata |
| 10:02.32 | Cide | which is DFA |
| 10:02.40 | Cide | so D is replaced with N for the non-deterministic variants |
| 10:02.45 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 10:02.54 | Jamash | solves P=NP in his sleep |
| 10:02.57 | Cide | fortunately deterministic pushdown automatas are not DDPA |
| 10:03.00 | Jamash | forgets the answer before waking up |
| 10:03.03 | Cide | automata? |
| 10:03.05 | Cide | whatever |
| 10:03.10 | Cide | automaton is the singular I guess |
| 10:03.17 | Jamash | automaton is singular, automata is plural |
| 10:03.27 | Jamash | I remember someone asking what the plural of media is |
| 10:03.42 | Jamash | I laughed, cried and got angry at the same time |
| 10:03.56 | Cide | also NDFA is also a valid acronym for NFA |
| 10:03.58 | Cide | so there you have it |
| 10:04.04 | Jamash | ndnfnda |
| 10:04.33 | Jamash | the media are the messages |
| 10:04.54 | Jamash | zzzzzzz |
| 10:05.02 | jnwhiteh | I know maths, all of the maths. |
| 10:05.34 | rtharper | jnwhiteh: lies |
| 10:05.51 | jnwhiteh | Anyone know a decent single-window jabber client, so it works well in a tiling wm? |
| 10:05.57 | rtharper | jnwhiteh: explain to me a Bialgebra is, then |
| 10:06.02 | rtharper | what a* |
| 10:06.27 | jnwhiteh | I'm sorry, all I heard was "I'm a whore" |
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| 10:07.07 | Cide | in mathematics, a bialgebra over a field K is a vector space over K which is both a unital associative algebra and a coalgebra, such that these structures are compatible. |
| 10:07.11 | Cide | how can you not know this? |
| 10:08.03 | Cide | also, looking up math that you don't know on wikipedia sucks |
| 10:08.26 | rtharper | haha |
| 10:08.28 | Cide | every single page contains 5 terms you don't know |
| 10:08.43 | Cide | so you need to read up on like 5^depth terms to get an understanding |
| 10:08.56 | rtharper | also, that is a specialised definition of bialgebra |
| 10:09.14 | rtharper | there s a more general, categorical definition |
| 10:10.06 | Cide | a bialgebra is one that copulates with both malgebras and femalgebras |
| 10:10.08 | Cide | happy? |
| 10:10.11 | rtharper | haha |
| 10:10.13 | jnwhiteh | win |
| 10:10.18 | rtharper | actually algebras and coalgebras =p |
| 10:10.27 | rtharper | and then you'r epretty close =p |
| 10:10.30 | Cide | haha |
| 10:10.40 | Cide | excellent |
| 10:13.51 | AcidWeb | Hmmm strange. GetPlayerMapPosition() glitching on IoC. |
| 10:14.26 | AcidWeb | Sometimes for few seconds dont return coords. Only for part of raid. |
| 10:18.12 | Fisker | No swede jnwhiteh? |
| 10:21.02 | karl_w_w | so it's taken me until now to realise the similarities between muru and spine |
| 10:21.10 | karl_w_w | afks |
| 10:21.26 | haste | hey Fisker |
| 10:21.51 | Fisker | Hey haste |
| 10:22.04 | Fisker | My ce is in the post |
| 10:23.25 | haste | cool |
| 10:30.08 | znf | fiskers the Fisker |
| 10:30.28 | Fisker | I k |
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| 12:07.25 | zenzio | I don't believe Fisker has been CE approved |
| 12:07.35 | zenzio | he definitely emits too much radiation |
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| 12:10.38 | zenzio | <jnwhiteh> The recruiter teased me, telling me I might find out on Tues or wednesday.. now it's Thursday and (of course) I can't stop checking my email. <-- I'm in the exact same situation o_O |
| 12:10.49 | zenzio | yes, I'm two hours late, but still |
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| 12:25.39 | karl_w_w | Regina Spektor - Us i love this song |
| 12:45.40 | Lopeppeppy | Every time I read the channel log in message, I want to announce that I found a cat toy on my pillow this morning, or something else random. |
| 12:51.53 | bluspacecow | oh hai Random peppy that appeared when i wasn't looking |
| 12:52.20 | Lopeppeppy | I do that, by habit and by choice. Sneaky little fox-rogue |
| 12:52.35 | bluspacecow | *sticks bells on Peppy* |
| 12:53.54 | Lopeppeppy | NOOOOOO. |
| 12:53.58 | Lopeppeppy | Bad bad meanie pants. |
| 12:54.55 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 13:02.55 | bluspacecow | armor for cat form ? |
| 13:02.57 | bluspacecow | LOLZ |
| 13:04.07 | Lopeppeppy | Cats love to wear clothes, didn't you know? |
| 13:04.12 | bluspacecow | http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2012/april/druidarmoralliance.jpg |
| 13:04.15 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 13:06.11 | AcidWeb | This lack only a machine gun on back. |
| 13:06.21 | Lopeppeppy | Is there a freakin' cat under there? |
| 13:06.39 | Lopeppeppy | And those are wooden shin guards. *face palm* |
| 13:08.10 | bluspacecow | http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2012/april/druidarmorhorde.jpg |
| 13:08.58 | bluspacecow | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/220766-druid-feral-incarnation/ |
| 13:09.29 | bluspacecow | http://mop.wowhead.com/spell=106731 |
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| 13:18.12 | karl_w_w | my god i hope there's gonna be a glyph for amorless cat |
| 13:18.21 | karl_w_w | aww, loveless cat |
| 13:18.23 | karl_w_w | or typo |
| 13:20.32 | karl_w_w | Mage Bomb (New) - Casts a powerful periodic damage effect based upon your talent choice. :o |
| 13:20.42 | karl_w_w | replacing a talent tier |
| 13:26.28 | mikma | rtharper: are you serious? you already that good at swedish? :O |
| 13:26.34 | rtharper | ? |
| 13:26.56 | mikma | ! |
| 13:27.58 | rtharper | for what?, heh |
| 13:28.32 | mikma | just read the g+ about some nårge poop :P |
| 13:28.43 | mikma | didn't you start to learn swedish awhile ago or something |
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| 13:31.08 | mikma | rtharper: http://imgur.com/gallery/gNgnB :D |
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| 13:35.39 | rtharper | ah mikma, yes |
| 13:35.46 | rtharper | I think my Swedish is pretty decent, actually |
| 13:35.52 | rtharper | I dunno what Swedes think, heh\ |
| 13:36.06 | rtharper | my pronunciation has gotten loaaaaads better reecently, too |
| 13:36.55 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/NGcUN |
| 13:37.18 | rtharper | lolz so true |
| 13:41.15 | Maldivia | mikma: well - blutooth would also suffice |
| 13:42.25 | mikma | maldivia: no. |
| 13:43.35 | Maldivia | why not? |
| 13:46.17 | mikma | cause the quality is horrible in bt when you compare aux :P |
| 13:46.26 | mikma | and it's all about the quality, bitches |
| 13:47.13 | alestane | rtharper, going back to school has required me to work on my Mandarin. |
| 13:47.28 | Maldivia | well, depends if your player is better at decoding than the "car stereo" |
| 13:47.36 | alestane | Not that I can really speak it, but I'm polishing my pronunciation and courtesy phrases. |
| 13:47.49 | Lopeppeppy | I thought you spoke Japanese, alestane? |
| 13:47.55 | Maldivia | mikma: and also if your player reencodes the track, or just sends it raw over BT |
| 13:48.10 | alestane | More or less fluently, Peppy. |
| 13:48.12 | mikma | maldivia: unless they have upgraded the bt a tons, the quality will be horrible. |
| 13:48.29 | alestane | But that doesn't help me with the roughly 30% of the students at WPI who are from China. |
| 13:49.44 | Maldivia | mikma: the A2DP profile supports mpeg, aac, and supports manufactor specific codecs as well, so depends on if the sender and reciever support the same formats, if reencoding is needed or not |
| 13:50.41 | alestane | And my usual philosophy is, if you have the chance, learn at least two phrases in every language you can: whatever the equivalents are of "Thank you" and "I'm sorry." |
| 13:51.19 | Maldivia | mikma: so if you have your music in mp3 format, than they should be able to stream those files directly over BT, meaning no loss in quality at all |
| 13:51.31 | Lopeppeppy | I thought I remembered you and Zoot singing at each other in Japanese. :) |
| 13:52.05 | Lopeppeppy | Okay. So. Do I buy the Harry Potter ebooks, or do I just buy the Kindle since they're going in the free library? Hmm. |
| 13:52.23 | mikma | maldivia: apparently they have upgraded it tons, just had a quick look at the wikipedia |
| 13:52.25 | AcidWeb | alestane: That is _very_ nice idea. But people dont use that words often enought even in theirs native languages ;-) |
| 13:53.22 | Torhal|work | AcidWeb: Sure they do. They're just usually not very sincere about it. |
| 13:53.25 | alestane | True, AcidWeb, but I find that knowing those two makes any interaction much more pleasant. |
| 13:53.41 | AcidWeb | Heh you are right Torhal|work |
| 13:53.59 | alestane | Although I've forgotten the Greek for "sorry". I ended up remembering "You're welcome" instead. |
| 13:54.12 | Lopeppeppy | I can recognize a lot in the romance languages, but speak less than I can hear. |
| 13:54.23 | Lopeppeppy | I almost remember please, alestane... |
| 13:54.31 | alestane | In Greek? |
| 13:54.41 | Lopeppeppy | yes |
| 13:54.46 | alestane | I don't think I know the Greek for "Please." |
| 13:55.23 | alestane | I know (spelling probably awful) "Ef hareh stoh" and "Para caloh". |
| 13:55.35 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, I was right. I don't know how to actually spell it, but para-ka-low is I was taught. |
| 13:56.06 | alestane | Somebody told we that meant "You're welcome," but it could do double duty or I could be misremembering. |
| 13:56.41 | alestane | I find that most people are very forgiving of misusing their native niceties; they recognize that at least you're making an effort to be polite. |
| 13:56.47 | Lopeppeppy | No, please. "though seh mu" is the rest of the phrase, but I can't remember what that is. Please something something. |
| 13:56.54 | Lopeppeppy | Please shoot me in the head, probably. |
| 13:58.02 | alestane | I remember accidentally telling a gentleman in Japan "Sorry to put you to the trouble" (Gokurou-sama deshita) instead of "Thanks for treating us to the meal" (Gochisou-sama deshita), but he was nice about it. |
| 13:58.53 | Lopeppeppy | There's not actually a "please" in greek, but para kalo serves as a general sort of "would you" of politeness. |
| 14:00.32 | alestane | Most of these I learn by asking speakers, so I have no idea how they would be written. |
| 14:01.26 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2012/05/pew-pew-pew-triple-barreled-pistol-makes.php |
| 14:02.02 | alestane | I've thrown quite a few Portuguese speakers off just by saying "Obrigado". They suddenly assume I know Portugues. |
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| 14:08.05 | Kraps | would you kindly |
| 14:09.20 | Lopeppeppy | Me either, alestane, that's the fun of phonetic ebonics. |
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| 14:18.27 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7DitJPndr8 <- http://imgur.com/gallery/gNgnB |
| 14:18.39 | karl_w_w | @ mikma |
| 14:24.19 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 14:24.20 | Fisker | i loved you |
| 14:25.20 | bluspacecow | @karl_w_w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KLMYaF_Xa8 |
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| 14:28.11 | mikma | karl_w_w: too long, find me the sweet spots. |
| 14:29.01 | karl_w_w | it's all pretty sweet mikma |
| 14:29.58 | karl_w_w | the part with the quote starts at 20:30 |
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| 14:32.21 | mikma | karl_w_w: good man he is |
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| 14:38.26 | Fisker | aww haste |
| 14:38.29 | Fisker | apparently they lied |
| 14:49.13 | rtharper | mikma: did you see the swedish song I linked earlier about Heroes of Newerth =p |
| 14:50.39 | mikma | rtharper: nope |
| 14:50.59 | mikma | rtharper: if you link it i will link you a finnish song.. beware! |
| 14:51.10 | rtharper | well, here's the englihs version |
| 14:51.11 | rtharper | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAKPqpN85-I |
| 14:52.42 | mikma | rtharper: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr5KqfyT8Yk muah! |
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| 15:15.17 | rtharper | Cide, mikma, have you seen this, btw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VloGvi911wg |
| 15:20.34 | mikma | rtharper: why oh why do you think i can understand that gibberish! ;) |
| 15:20.48 | rtharper | mikma: Because Finnish people speak Swedish, right? =p |
| 15:21.03 | mikma | rtharper: yeah but it's attitude thing, they either learn it or forget it |
| 15:21.04 | rtharper | so you can all go on holiday in Åland |
| 15:21.28 | mikma | also, people in helsinki talk about 3 languages |
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| 15:21.33 | mikma | fin eng swe |
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| 15:25.27 | Maldivia | and sometimes a mixture thereof ?:) |
| 15:25.34 | Cide | rtharper: haven't seen it, but agreed |
| 15:25.39 | Cide | I have felt that way more than once |
| 15:27.01 | Maldivia | Cide: haven't we all? |
| 15:30.00 | Cide | Maldivia: I don't know... |
| 15:30.09 | Cide | answering that question would be a massive undertaking! |
| 15:31.13 | Maldivia | hehe, yeah ok :P |
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| 15:35.15 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 15:35.30 | bluspacecow | this dragon on Merlin just made a "what has been seen cannot be unseen" quip |
| 15:35.52 | Maldivia | hmm, I need one of these: http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/197/1336648126041.jpg |
| 15:36.57 | Cide | same |
| 15:37.10 | bluspacecow | hehe |
| 15:37.17 | ccox | lol |
| 15:37.34 | bluspacecow | assuming it doesn't get stolen from which ever hotel you are at at the time |
| 15:37.38 | bluspacecow | like mine was :( |
| 15:37.41 | Torhal|work | unsees bluspacecow. |
| 15:37.56 | bluspacecow | i had a door knocker made for Blizzcon 2010 for my caharacter |
| 15:39.55 | bluspacecow | @torhal ^_^ |
| 15:40.04 | bluspacecow | *shakes tail* |
| 15:40.16 | bluspacecow | you can no unsee me ! |
| 15:46.56 | karl_w_w | who is Tris Tram? |
| 15:47.02 | karl_w_w | and what kind of name is Tris |
| 15:47.44 | bluspacecow | short for tristran ? |
| 15:47.47 | Torhal|work | bluspacecow: :D |
| 15:47.58 | Dagmar | He's a guy who entices teenage boys to come over to his house for "games" involving a lot of violence, for days at a time |
| 15:48.52 | Dagmar | According to Christwire, it's also anagram for 'Gomorrah'. |
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| 15:49.38 | Unkle | Hello ladies. |
| 15:49.48 | Maldivia | Dagmar: sounds like a lot of fun |
| 15:49.55 | bluspacecow | oh hai master |
| 15:50.01 | bluspacecow | *drops self over Unkle* |
| 15:50.04 | mckenziemc | Unkle: lay off the alcohol |
| 15:50.11 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:50.19 | Unkle | mckenziemc: Unpossible. I needs mah whiskey. |
| 15:51.05 | Dagmar | word has already been passed here about it |
| 15:53.45 | Shirik | Unkle is a texan |
| 15:53.48 | Shirik | They're powered by whiskey |
| 15:53.55 | Unkle | And beef. |
| 15:53.58 | Shirik | and beef |
| 15:53.59 | Unkle | And beer. |
| 15:54.09 | Shirik | I'm not sure you can call that stuff beer |
| 15:54.12 | bluspacecow | and bikini clad hot womens |
| 15:54.18 | Unkle | Hells yes. |
| 15:54.29 | Shirik | thinks Unkle "likes" budweiser |
| 15:54.35 | Maldivia | and BBQ sauce? |
| 15:54.43 | Unkle | Um, no, I said BEER. Not piss in a can. |
| 15:55.05 | bluspacecow | or horse piss |
| 15:55.08 | Shirik | ok good |
| 15:55.22 | Shirik | because the only good beer I've had comes from outside the US or microbreweries |
| 15:55.25 | Unkle | http://www.shiner.com/ |
| 15:56.24 | Shirik | I was watching a video of this frat party where some guy said "I drink corona like it's water, I drink bud light like it's water!" |
| 15:56.33 | Shirik | and I'm sitting here like "that's because it is water" |
| 15:56.49 | bluspacecow | LOLZ |
| 15:56.53 | Unkle | And it generally tastes bad. |
| 15:57.29 | Unkle | Most American beers have low alcohol content because the law in most states only allows beer to have 3.2% by volume. |
| 15:57.50 | Unkle | So it's weak and flavorless. |
| 15:57.51 | Shirik | I had this amazing beer called 'outer darkness' |
| 15:57.54 | Maldivia | only 3.2%... damn |
| 15:57.56 | Shirik | 10.5% ABV |
| 15:58.17 | Maldivia | Unkle: they might as well make it non-alcohol then |
| 15:58.44 | alestane | If you sent American beer out to be anaylzed, the boys from the lab would call to tell you "Your horse has diabetes." |
| 16:00.11 | Unkle | But I like a very few beers - mostly dark, heavier beers. |
| 16:00.46 | Unkle | And I like some Japanese beers which have a very crisp, light taste. |
| 16:00.53 | bluspacecow | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_in_New_Zealand |
| 16:01.00 | Shirik | you should have this Unkle: http://thealerunner.com/2012/02/26/squatters-outer-darkness/ |
| 16:01.03 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:01.08 | bluspacecow | ours are pissy too |
| 16:01.31 | Unkle | bluspacecow: Why do Queenslanders call their beer XXXX? |
| 16:01.38 | bluspacecow | dunno |
| 16:01.45 | Unkle | Because they can't spell piss. |
| 16:02.11 | bluspacecow | It contains 4.8% alcohol by volume (ABV) which amounts to 1.4 standard drinks. |
| 16:02.21 | Unkle | Shirik: That looks like the kind of beer I would enjoy. |
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| 16:04.00 | bluspacecow | looks like the kind that grows hair on your chest |
| 16:04.02 | bluspacecow | even woman. |
| 16:04.38 | Unkle | Though given my preference, I'd probably do whiskey and soda for most 'casual' drinking. Or gimlets. |
| 16:05.08 | pompy1 | http://i.imgur.com/w2Rfy.jpg |
| 16:05.43 | Unkle | that's … hilarious. |
| 16:07.04 | pompy1 | lol |
| 16:18.46 | Unkle | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4904340412 - ah illiteracy provides unintended humor. Read the title. |
| 16:19.29 | bluspacecow | reminds me of a guy complaining about alcoholism in game. |
| 16:19.47 | bluspacecow | used "morale" instead of "moral" in his subject title |
| 16:19.52 | Unkle | Oh, I saw that one yesterday. And yet they had the brewmaster title. |
| 16:20.13 | bluspacecow | lawz |
| 16:20.33 | mikma | picture of the day; http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/slideshow?articleId=USRTR31V2S#a=1 |
| 16:23.02 | pompy1 | woo http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/5245477/WoW_Mobile_Armory_Now_Supports_Push_Notifications-5_10_2012#blog |
| 16:23.32 | bluspacecow | oh rly? |
| 16:23.38 | bluspacecow | which new thingy do you like ? |
| 16:23.47 | Unkle | Yeah, I snagged the new iPhone app yesterday. |
| 16:23.50 | mikma | ALL THE THINGS \o/ |
| 16:24.28 | rtharper | Cide: have you ever gonet o dreamhack? |
| 16:25.11 | foxlit | yo, wow ui developers |
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| 16:25.59 | foxlit | I have a button reference in a restricted environment that I want to pass to another restricted environment so that it in turn can :SetAttribute() it on a SecureActionButtonTemplate-inheriting button to eventually press the button. |
| 16:26.42 | foxlit | question: to which god do I need to sacrifice a goat to make that work? At present, it seems to be easier to pass something like "/click Foo bar" and run that through the macro parser instead. |
| 16:26.57 | foxlit | Which does nothing for making pretty stack traces. |
| 16:27.10 | bluspacecow | Cuthlutha |
| 16:27.25 | mikma | cuntlutha? |
| 16:27.36 | bluspacecow | dirty man :P |
| 16:27.44 | mikma | why thank you |
| 16:27.59 | foxlit | I'll accept "we don't know, foxlit, because we don't develop addons here" :) |
| 16:28.09 | bluspacecow | whats an addon? |
| 16:28.14 | mikma | gtfo our channel foxlit! |
| 16:28.28 | bluspacecow | its even worse then that mikma |
| 16:28.41 | bluspacecow | your a dirty _old_ man with TNT ! |
| 16:28.44 | bluspacecow | *hides* |
| 16:29.00 | mikma | but frankly, i've never actually coded stuff for restricted wow :P |
| 16:29.26 | mikma | bluspacecow: yeah, and i'm currently in a school educating myself to become a greater explosives-expert :P |
| 16:29.32 | nevcairiel | foxlit: i'm not sure i understand your problem, but you can hand around references to frames by using SetFrameRef on secure headers, if that helps at all :p |
| 16:29.35 | bluspacecow | \o/ |
| 16:29.56 | mikma | 1 week of school, 1 week of work, 1 week of school... and so on and so on |
| 16:30.25 | mikma | final exams are at 15.6.2012, and I SHALL PASS |
| 16:30.54 | nevcairiel | i still think its a bad idea to make mikma an explosive expert |
| 16:31.20 | mikma | nevcairiel: well it's just a upgrade from rank 1 to rank 2 anyway ;D and rank 3 is max |
| 16:31.57 | foxlit | nevcairiel: that would probably work, but it seems like such ugliness ( call foo:RunAttribute("bar", self, ...) get return with self:GetFrameRef(), and would then have to bother with identifiers...). It'd be ideal to get it as a return from :Run(), but noooo, that's scrubbed. |
| 16:32.18 | mikma | rank 2 allows me to work in the cities, under supervisor (cause the law changed last year and all workplaces using explosives now require a rank 3 supervising |
| 16:32.23 | foxlit | It seems like :Run() return values should not be scrubbed. |
| 16:35.49 | karl_w_w | http://www.myopinions.com.au I hate people who don't know how to code or use iis properly |
| 16:36.04 | mitchnull | use iis properly? |
| 16:36.10 | mitchnull | as in, "don't use"? |
| 16:36.22 | karl_w_w | "http://www.myopinions.com.au/Error.aspx?aspxerrorpath=/Default.aspx" |
| 16:41.08 | Unkle | foxlit: I'd love to help, but I haven't really worked with the restricted execution stuff and don't have an answer. |
| 16:41.31 | Dagmar | Oh I dunno. I like them because occasionaly they wind up paying me $300/hour to tell them the blisteringly obvious. |
| 16:41.45 | kd3 | $300/hr? |
| 16:41.49 | kd3 | lets out a low whistle |
| 16:42.08 | bluspacecow | $300 /hr and you get to call them dumbasses |
| 16:42.11 | bluspacecow | that's sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet |
| 16:43.40 | Dagmar | If you charge much less than that for explaining why a cartoonish red demon with an improbably large phallus is currently dancing around on the topmost page of their web site, for some reason they don't take _you_ seriously. |
| 16:43.42 | Dagmar | Go figure. |
| 16:47.47 | Maldivia | beastie? |
| 16:49.16 | Dagmar | Boys. |
| 16:49.45 | alestane | You want to pass that reference into another restricted environment from a snippet run in the first environment, foxlit? |
| 16:49.58 | foxlit | alestane: yes. |
| 16:50.24 | alestane | Can you get a handle to the owner of the target environment? |
| 16:50.38 | pompy1 | http://beerlake.net/dump/doomed-to-repeat.jpg |
| 16:51.02 | Maldivia | lol |
| 16:51.06 | kd3 | oh ye gods |
| 16:51.12 | foxlit | er, that might be ugly. |
| 16:51.27 | foxlit | I can't actually pass a handle since arguments are also scrubbed |
| 16:51.38 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:51.49 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:52.02 | bluspacecow | y u include to launch a program you didn't push out in the build? |
| 16:52.07 | foxlit | I suppose I could :SetFrameRef it before the call, then GetFrameRef it to retrieve but that's exactly the sort of ugliness I'd like to avoid |
| 16:52.08 | bluspacecow | LAZY BLIZZARD |
| 16:52.19 | Jamash | because they broke it lawlawl |
| 16:52.31 | kd3 | didn't they break the mac64 client last build too? |
| 16:53.07 | bluspacecow | they did this for 15640 as well too |
| 16:53.20 | bluspacecow | preference goes to launch the 64 bit client that wasn't there :P |
| 16:53.25 | foxlit | alestane: more generally, I probably want scrub to go away for both the arguments and return values of the handle:Run* methods that run snippets. |
| 16:53.38 | bluspacecow | @kd3 badly. couldn't log into guilded toons with it. |
| 16:53.39 | alestane | Can you prove that that won't expose vulnerabilities? |
| 16:53.50 | foxlit | I don't see any way that it can do that. |
| 16:53.58 | bluspacecow | not above a certain level or below or even for a particular |
| 16:54.04 | bluspacecow | guilded toons only for some reason |
| 16:54.20 | foxlit | If you think about it, those methods can only be used to run a different restricted snippet |
| 16:54.27 | bluspacecow | but |
| 16:54.32 | bluspacecow | muffins foxlit |
| 16:55.12 | foxlit | And since you're in a restricted snippet to begin with, you have nothing that could be considered a vulnerability to begin with |
| 16:55.54 | alestane | The arguments are scrubbed by the restricted call process. |
| 16:56.11 | alestane | The returns are scrubbed separately by the Run code. |
| 16:56.23 | alestane | But Iriel's the one you're going to need to convince. |
| 16:57.01 | alestane | The snippet that you want to set this frameref is being triggered by :Run in the first place? |
| 16:57.18 | foxlit | no, a wrapped OnClick |
| 16:57.39 | alestane | What's the actual behavior that you're trying to create? |
| 16:59.20 | foxlit | just sanity in code, really. |
| 16:59.39 | foxlit | I have one restricted environment that knows something about what should be done |
| 16:59.49 | foxlit | And a different restricted environment that triggers when something should be done. |
| 17:00.28 | Jamash | and you're trying to pass a snippet out from one into another? |
| 17:00.34 | foxlit | call them A and B respectively; so the interaction simply is A's OnClick wrap wakes up, calls B to figure out what action to perform, then performs it. |
| 17:00.51 | Jamash | what's B attached to? |
| 17:01.13 | foxlit | nothing notable. It's just an environment that knows things. |
| 17:01.28 | foxlit | Essentially, it should return an instruction like "click widget X with button Y" |
| 17:01.31 | Jamash | so you're just trying to make it more modular? |
| 17:02.43 | foxlit | but there's no sane way to communicate "widget X" -- could serialize the the whole thing into a /click macrotext, or could mess with SetFrameRef, but those are all ugly as far as code goes. |
| 17:02.54 | foxlit | Jamash: yep. |
| 17:04.41 | Jamash | as always with ugly adapter code, stick the ugliness somewhere you don't have to look at it and move on with your life |
| 17:05.35 | Jamash | what's wrong with setframeref anyway" |
| 17:05.36 | Jamash | ? |
| 17:05.53 | foxlit | api:SetFrameRef("returnHandle", self) |
| 17:05.58 | foxlit | api:GetInterestingThings() |
| 17:06.11 | foxlit | local retVal = self:GetFrameRef("returnHandle") |
| 17:06.40 | Jamash | seems legit to me |
| 17:06.50 | foxlit | as opposed to retVal = api:GetInterestingThings() |
| 17:06.58 | Jamash | Q_Q more imo |
| 17:08.57 | Jamash | couldn't you use control:RunFor? |
| 17:09.15 | foxlit | and more importantly, SetFrameRef wouldn't fix the inability to pass tables |
| 17:09.59 | Jamash | why does B need to pass this info back to A instead of running the code directly? |
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| 17:11.49 | foxlit | I may have oversimplified things slightly for your benefit |
| 17:11.53 | Jamash | indeed |
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| 17:12.21 | foxlit | the actual interaction is A triggers, calls B to retrieve a list of possible actions (in the "click widget X with button Y" format), figures out which one should be performed, and performs it |
| 17:12.37 | Jamash | ah |
| 17:13.01 | Jamash | what addon is this for? |
| 17:13.32 | Jamash | opie? |
| 17:14.26 | foxlit | sure. |
| 17:14.55 | karl_w_w | i just mistyped a captcha and it let me in anyway |
| 17:15.07 | karl_w_w | feelsgoodman.png |
| 17:18.53 | Jamash | maybe you misread it and mistyped it but they canceled each other out |
| 17:20.40 | foxlit | alestane: the only thing that might be strange if you passed it out of its own restricted environment is the control handle, but that's just an ordinary frame handle now? |
| 17:23.13 | karl_w_w | it was a typo Jamash I typed f instead of g and there was a few second delay after submitting before the page cleared :P |
| 17:25.23 | Jamash | reCAPTCHA at least uses two words, one of which is random and required to log in, and the other is from a scanned book and used to crowdsource OCR |
| 17:26.07 | Jamash | so if you typoed the scanned word it wouldn't be able to tell |
| 17:26.27 | alestane | Yes, the distinction between control handles and frame handles was annihilated, I think even before Cataclysm. |
| 17:28.38 | karl_w_w | Jamash: the required one is the one with the black/white blob on it |
| 17:28.52 | karl_w_w | the other word is the unrequired one, i never write that word and didnt this time :P |
| 17:28.58 | Jamash | you're a bad person |
| 17:29.02 | Jamash | and you should feel bad |
| 17:29.03 | karl_w_w | i just went "therequiredword d" |
| 17:29.26 | karl_w_w | actually i went more like "therequiredwors f" |
| 17:30.58 | pompy1 | lol wtg buy.com |
| 17:30.59 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:31.05 | pompy1 | canceled everyones d3ce preorder |
| 17:32.15 | Jamash | what |
| 17:33.31 | pompy1 | they claimed they dont have enough copies |
| 17:33.54 | Jamash | that's idiotic |
| 17:33.58 | Dagmar | This isn't the first time |
| 17:34.08 | Arrowmaster | thats not how preorders are supposed to work |
| 17:34.35 | pompy1 | http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/4903520411 |
| 17:34.36 | pompy1 | hahaha |
| 17:34.36 | Dagmar | Yes, well, this is about protecting supply chains. |
| 17:34.40 | pompy1 | he c/p the email |
| 17:35.03 | Dagmar | If you want to buy something, you'll have to go to another company that's in the buisness of actually selling things to people. |
| 17:35.32 | Arrowmaster | like amazon.com |
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| 17:36.00 | Dagmar | Exactly. |
| 17:36.01 | pompy1 | yup, i ordered mine from them march 16.. i trust them ! |
| 17:36.29 | Dagmar | Some companies understand that at this phase of the game, they're literally selling printed money |
| 17:36.30 | Jamash | I preordered from amazon months ago but my sister waited until a couple weeks ago, I'm not sure who she ordered from but I hope it's not buy.com |
| 17:36.50 | Dagmar | If you run out of freshly printed bills, you don't cancel orders--you call some bitches up and say "SEND US MOAR!" |
| 17:37.13 | Dagmar | In theory you can do this with the money from the *other* pre-orders--if you're not incompetent. |
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| 18:00.57 | Unkle | "Call some bitches up …" made me laugh so hard. |
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| 18:06.14 | Lopeppeppy | Sounds like George Carlin in my head. |
| 18:07.14 | kd3 | gack |
| 18:07.23 | kd3 | has taken 2.1 gigabytes of screenshots so far in the mists beta |
| 18:08.03 | TC-Work | >.< |
| 18:08.16 | TC-Work | of which 1.9GB will change |
| 18:11.47 | Duman | buys kd3 another hard drive |
| 18:12.17 | kd3 | heh, I'm good on space (for a little while longer), a fresh 1TB drive showed up on my doorstep a few weeks back |
| 18:12.40 | kd3 | I'm still waiting on prices to come down before I build my next RAID |
| 18:13.13 | nevcairiel | i still have a 2TB drive in a box that i need to put into my file server, i r lazy |
| 18:13.22 | AcidWeb | Anybody here know german? I need help with two strings. |
| 18:13.39 | Unkle | Ich bein ein Berliner |
| 18:13.51 | nevcairiel | -e |
| 18:14.04 | nevcairiel | cant even quote your own president correctly! |
| 18:14.32 | Unkle | Fuck him, I didn't vote for him. He was fucking dead before I was born. Also, I don't really speak German. |
| 18:16.37 | alestane | Neither did he, apparently. (Although I've read since then that the "I am a jelly doughnut" story is somewhat spurious.) |
| 18:16.46 | Unkle | quite. |
| 18:17.22 | Unkle | Also, I'm just being belligerent. |
| 18:17.34 | Unkle | Too much blood in my whiskey system. |
| 18:18.13 | nevcairiel | the sentence is correct. It can mean "i am a jelly doughnut", but it can as well mean "I am from Berlin" |
| 18:18.23 | nevcairiel | of course the first is funnier |
| 18:18.47 | alestane | Is it correct that it's more common to simply say "Ich bin Berliner" in the second case? |
| 18:19.01 | nevcairiel | Funny thing is, people in Berlin don't even call the jelly doughnuts Berliner |
| 18:19.12 | nevcairiel | more common, yes |
| 18:19.18 | nevcairiel | but not wrong the other way |
| 18:20.09 | Unkle | I learned a smattering of german so I could woo this hot chick who spoke switser-deutsche (probably spelling it all wrong) and later because a fiance's family spoke german. But Not enough to do more than spout some lines and ask where the toilet is. |
| 18:20.34 | alestane | Schweizerdeutsche, I think. |
| 18:21.13 | Unkle | She was smoking. And she spoke decent enough english. So, you know, it worked as well as that sort of thing ever does. |
| 18:21.25 | nevcairiel | depends if you want to say the name in plain german or in swiss-german itself :p |
| 18:22.09 | mikma | rtharper: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/nah_we_all_bros.jpg |
| 18:22.50 | rtharper | LOL |
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| 18:27.35 | rtharper | Cuz no one has any jokes about the Danes ;) |
| 18:27.40 | rtharper | OR THE FINNS |
| 18:32.22 | mikma | cause there's nothing scarier than drunken finn |
| 18:33.29 | Unkle | Hey, Finns, Danes, Sweedes… Put them in a small boat, liquor them up and WOE TO ANY PLACE THEY LAND. |
| 18:34.01 | Jamash | is it time to link http://satwcomic.com/ ? |
| 18:34.52 | Jamash | relevant http://satwcomic.com/trans-fear |
| 18:36.03 | Unkle | both lol-worthy |
| 18:37.44 | Jamash | for 50 points, compare and contrast Scandinavia and the World with Axis Powers Hetalia |
| 18:40.51 | TC-Work | for 100 points, ignore Jamash |
| 18:41.44 | Arrowmaster | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xf3ELqb6kc |
| 18:41.47 | Arrowmaster | Unkle: ^^ |
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| 18:44.23 | Jamash | easier said than done |
| 18:48.20 | haste | http://satwcomic.com/wild-ghost this actually happend not too far from where I live :D |
| 18:49.12 | Jamash | it was you wasn't it |
| 18:49.19 | haste | I'm not danish |
| 18:49.31 | Jamash | so you say now |
| 18:50.12 | haste | I bet Fisker was the hunter |
| 18:50.18 | Jamash | maybe you were pretending to be danish to throw off the authorities |
| 18:50.33 | Jamash | or that |
| 18:52.08 | Arrowmaster | D3 xp graph http://i.imgur.com/jn3Iy.png |
| 18:52.42 | Dagmar | Odd |
| 18:53.39 | TC-Work | maybe someone really doesnt like the number 50 |
| 18:54.12 | Arrowmaster | 50 is when you are supposed to start on hell i think |
| 18:54.32 | Arrowmaster | heres another version showing 3 distinct lines http://i.imgur.com/aCUwK.jpg |
| 18:55.13 | jnwhiteh | yowza |
| 18:56.23 | Arrowmaster | http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/tggzn/xp_requirement_graph_how_much_xp_needed_to_get_to/ |
| 18:58.01 | Arrowmaster | oh this is xp between levels, not total xp to get to each level |
| 18:58.04 | mikma | haste: http://satwcomic.com/the-easy-way |
| 18:59.17 | haste | there's a car driving around in this town with the text "Jesus won!" and "Jesus is coming!" |
| 18:59.54 | TC-Work | was jesus playing bingo again? |
| 19:00.09 | haste | probably |
| 19:02.24 | karl_w_w | so i just realised, i've never before in my life seen a gym that doesnt have a fast food joint within a 30s walk away |
| 19:03.36 | mikma | jnwhiteh: http://satwcomic.com/worthless ..... |
| 19:07.13 | foxlit | Arrowmaster: I wish people stopped spoiler-tagging trivialities like numbers. |
| 19:07.51 | foxlit | It makes it annoying when you find an actual spoiler, like that Diablo is actually the Architect from the Matrix. |
| 19:08.04 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 19:08.35 | AcidWeb | foxlit: Wrong. Diablo is really Fisker without mask. |
| 19:11.10 | rtharper | haste: where are you, kristiansand? |
| 19:11.25 | Unkle | http://imgur.com/gallery/5lFWQ |
| 19:11.51 | mikma | unkle: http://imgur.com/gallery/16yGO |
| 19:12.08 | rtharper | lol @ the hulk |
| 19:12.09 | Unkle | Yeah, saw that. |
| 19:12.22 | haste | rtharper: ~one hour south-east of oslo |
| 19:13.05 | rtharper | hrm, so on the way ;) |
| 19:13.32 | rtharper | I find religious Nordic people amusing |
| 19:15.11 | haste | I'm just glad I don't have to deal with them very often |
| 19:15.26 | rtharper | Haha, meee too |
| 19:16.18 | zenzelezz_ | rtharper: out of curiosity, why Kristiansand? |
| 19:16.41 | rtharper | zenzelezz: It just has a reputation for being the "bible belt" of Norway |
| 19:16.52 | foxlit | also, what has Kristian done to deserve a duck? |
| 19:16.57 | rtharper | at least among the Norwegians, Swedes, and Icelanders I know |
| 19:17.09 | rtharper | who all say it's a beautiful place as well =p |
| 19:17.10 | zenzelezz | foxlit: it's a new spelling of the old Christianssand |
| 19:17.21 | rtharper | (aside from the dialect) |
| 19:17.28 | zenzelezz | the kind Christian (the fourth of Denmark) decided to build the town on a bunch of sand |
| 19:17.30 | zenzelezz | *king |
| 19:17.35 | haste | them dialects! |
| 19:17.48 | rtharper | haste: any with that R sound aaaaaaawful imo |
| 19:17.59 | rtharper | I dun't like them in Sweden either |
| 19:18.00 | zenzelezz | rtharper: it's all matter of opinion. I live there, and I do know there are many religious people here... but I never seem to run into them :-o |
| 19:18.14 | haste | I don't really mind the R's that much |
| 19:18.27 | rtharper | It's definitely a matter of opinion, I don't care for it =) |
| 19:18.35 | zenzelezz | =) |
| 19:18.45 | rtharper | zenzelezz: do you speak with guttural R? |
| 19:19.11 | zenzelezz | no idea which that is, but if you mean the regular southern one, then yes |
| 19:19.17 | rtharper | ah, yes =) |
| 19:19.23 | zenzelezz | been working in Oslo for the last 8 months or so, and I still find it peculiar how those people can't speak proper Rs :-p |
| 19:19.29 | rtharper | hahahahaha |
| 19:19.51 | rtharper | It sounds very weird in Sweden, you get people who are on the radio and speak "rikssvenska", but with their Skånska R |
| 19:20.03 | haste | oh wow, it's even named Guttural R in english :P |
| 19:20.04 | rtharper | I watched trollhunter recently, it was a nice tour of Norwegian dialects |
| 19:20.14 | rtharper | haste: hahah yes, it's a rather non-technical name |
| 19:20.26 | rtharper | the real name is uvular approximant for what is used in Norway |
| 19:20.44 | alestane | Gah, I have to believe that somewhere this paper is stored in a place my school has access to. |
| 19:21.07 | zenzelezz | there aren't really many dialects I directly dislike, but Stavanger, Bodø and occasionally trønder... |
| 19:21.10 | Unkle | Dear people with Smartphones - when you change you password for the network, you need to change the stored password in your smartphone too or your phone will lock your account. *sigh* |
| 19:21.18 | rtharper | *cough*Bergen*cough* |
| 19:21.24 | haste | five years ago, I could have used the technical term as well :( |
| 19:21.28 | rtharper | aww, heh |
| 19:21.34 | zenzelezz | I'm okay with Bergen, but that might be because I have relatives there and I got used to it |
| 19:22.00 | rtharper | My friend is from Sogn og Fjordane, I quite like her dialect =) |
| 19:22.13 | zenzelezz | those I do like; but again maybe from family |
| 19:22.23 | zenzelezz | most of family's from there |
| 19:22.45 | rtharper | Our friend has invited jnwhiteh and me to visit her family there. We might do next summer |
| 19:22.53 | zenzelezz | but god could it be hard to understand my grandfather in his last few years... such an old variant of the dialect |
| 19:23.04 | rtharper | hahahaah |
| 19:23.18 | rtharper | Sognmål? |
| 19:23.25 | rtharper | Sognamål* |
| 19:23.32 | haste | the interview I pasted the last time we talked about norwegian dialects comes to mind |
| 19:23.44 | rtharper | yeah |
| 19:23.46 | rtharper | hehe |
| 19:23.49 | rtharper | which was from that region |
| 19:23.55 | haste | trønderlag |
| 19:24.01 | haste | so no :P |
| 19:24.03 | rtharper | oh no |
| 19:24.04 | zenzelezz | not sure what the name is. He was from around Fjaler, not too far from Førde. Lived most of his life in the tiny place called Hovlandsdal (where we got our last name from) |
| 19:24.10 | rtharper | I thought you posted a link from something in Sogn |
| 19:24.11 | rtharper | ah yes |
| 19:24.15 | rtharper | but it was a wordlist |
| 19:24.16 | rtharper | not hte interview |
| 19:24.28 | haste | haorbådlajakedl! |
| 19:24.31 | rtharper | hahah |
| 19:24.32 | haste | :--D |
| 19:24.34 | alestane | Finally! Same source, just found a way to log in from the school. |
| 19:25.01 | haste | wikipedia samples list, so nice |
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| 19:27.31 | haste | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlBX_pb_efI has some sognamål rtharper, and sognametal :P |
| 19:29.06 | rtharper | lol |
| 19:29.37 | rtharper | fem aor <3 |
| 19:30.22 | TC-Work | the fuck....this guy is maxing out 24GB of swap and 24GB of ram |
| 19:31.09 | nevcairiel | if i set out to do exactly that, i'll manage to do that too |
| 19:31.22 | nevcairiel | not that i would want to use any system that hits swap |
| 19:31.33 | TC-Work | in one program? |
| 19:31.34 | rtharper | yeah what is this, 1995? |
| 19:31.48 | nevcairiel | TC-Work: sure, takes me 5 lines of code to write that program |
| 19:32.01 | TC-Work | thats not a program, thats a sript |
| 19:32.04 | TC-Work | script* |
| 19:32.14 | nevcairiel | if i write it in C and compile it, its a script? |
| 19:32.39 | TC-Work | go write it for linux and i'll run it |
| 19:32.54 | TC-Work | has to happen in ~10 min |
| 19:32.57 | TC-Work | at most |
| 19:33.06 | nevcairiel | a small program to consume all memory it can find isn't exactly hard |
| 19:33.23 | TC-Work | and properly spill into swap |
| 19:33.45 | Maldivia | int main() { for (int i = 0; i < 48; i++) { malloc(1024*1024*1024); } while(true); return 0; } |
| 19:33.54 | nevcairiel | int main() { while(true) malloc(.... damn Maldivia was faster |
| 19:34.39 | nevcairiel | although your loop looks funky |
| 19:34.55 | Maldivia | I allocate 48gb, and then loop forever :P |
| 19:35.07 | TC-Work | can you write it so i can run it? |
| 19:35.29 | nevcairiel | add a #include <malloc.h> on top, and compile with gcc test.c -o test |
| 19:35.58 | rtharper | speaking of dialects, I'm off to meet some Icelanders |
| 19:36.02 | rtharper | bye =D |
| 19:36.35 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: ohh, and while(1) - since true isn't defined anywhere :) |
| 19:37.07 | nilyaK | while true works for me :X true is true |
| 19:37.13 | zenzelezz | not in C |
| 19:37.19 | zenzelezz | unless they added that in some later version |
| 19:38.11 | Maldivia | TC-Work: int main() { int i; for (i = 0; i < 48; i++) { malloc(1024*1024*1024); } while(1); return 0; } |
| 19:38.46 | Maldivia | put that in a fale called 48.c, run gcc 48.c, and then ./a.out |
| 19:38.48 | nevcairiel | does it even need the include malloc.h? i just gussed it might |
| 19:39.05 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: not needed - it will throw a compiler warning, but |
| 19:39.20 | nevcairiel | because its in the C library it just links anyway |
| 19:39.24 | Maldivia | yep |
| 19:40.09 | nevcairiel | note that an app like that on linux may bring the oom killer to kill it pretty fast |
| 19:40.22 | nevcairiel | i didnt bother to run it |
| 19:41.10 | Maldivia | 62233 a.out 94.1 (...) 50G |
| 19:41.17 | Maldivia | works fine here :P |
| 19:41.31 | nevcairiel | you must have plenty of pagefile |
| 19:41.56 | nilyaK | bookfile :P |
| 19:42.51 | TC-Work | 48.c: In function ‘main’: |
| 19:42.52 | TC-Work | 48.c:1: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function ‘malloc’ |
| 19:43.04 | TC-Work | so i do need to add it? |
| 19:43.06 | nevcairiel | its a warning, ignore :P |
| 19:43.06 | Maldivia | ignore warnig |
| 19:43.24 | Dagmar | Yes, especially when they involve malloc being replaced. |
| 19:43.29 | Dagmar | That's always safe. |
| 19:43.42 | Dagmar | Nothing could possibly go wrong. |
| 19:43.52 | nevcairiel | we wrote an app that allocates 48gb of ram and then spin-locks, who cares :P |
| 19:43.55 | TC-Work | it's not doing anything |
| 19:44.17 | Maldivia | TC-Work: it allocates 48gb and the busy waits... so shouldn't see it do anything |
| 19:44.22 | nevcairiel | its not supposed to do anything, it should just sit there, keep one CPU core busy, and sit on alot of ram |
| 19:44.29 | TC-Work | not even under free -m |
| 19:44.30 | TC-Work | ? |
| 19:44.36 | TC-Work | because thats what i am looking at |
| 19:44.54 | Maldivia | well - that's the thing... it's probably just vram, because it's not actually being used |
| 19:45.15 | nevcairiel | you think its smart enough to only really allocate it when we write to it? |
| 19:45.22 | Dagmar | I like the ice one |
| 19:45.26 | TC-Work | it's using 100% cpu, but 0 ram |
| 19:45.28 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: it should be |
| 19:45.42 | nevcairiel | switch to calloc, which zeros? :d |
| 19:45.59 | nevcairiel | (or just memset it) |
| 19:46.05 | Dagmar | Yes, especially now that malloc has been trampled underfoot |
| 19:47.36 | Maldivia | TC-Work: use this instead then, then you should see memory usage: |
| 19:47.39 | Maldivia | int main() { int i;int s; for (i = 0; i < 48; i++) { int *a = malloc(1024*1024*1024); for (s = 0; s < 256*1024*1024; s++) *a++ = s; } while(1); return 0; } |
| 19:47.55 | nevcairiel | wouldnt a memset be easier |
| 19:48.32 | Maldivia | easier yeah, but then it wouldn't be counting in memory :P |
| 19:48.48 | TC-Work | thats better |
| 19:48.51 | nevcairiel | but yes, documentation confirms that allocations are optimistic |
| 19:49.03 | nevcairiel | it just gives you memory, and only later figures out your OOM :P |
| 19:52.29 | nevcairiel | i cant help but wonder, why did we write this just now |
| 19:52.37 | TC-Work | because i asked |
| 19:52.52 | nevcairiel | yes, but why would you even want to :P |
| 19:53.06 | TC-Work | testing |
| 19:53.36 | Maldivia | hmm, looking at the code above... it shouldnt actually be able to allocate more than 4gb or so :) |
| 19:53.47 | TC-Work | of ram or swap? |
| 19:53.50 | nevcairiel | why not? |
| 19:54.05 | TC-Work | because it was hitting 16gb of ram, which is what is on my machine |
| 19:54.11 | Maldivia | hmm, ok |
| 19:54.21 | Maldivia | ohh, with a 64-bit compiler, then yeah |
| 19:54.30 | Maldivia | was thinking 32-bit for a sec :P |
| 19:54.56 | nevcairiel | well yeah, it probably would segfault after 4gb because malloc starts returning NULL |
| 19:55.13 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 19:57.45 | Dagmar | You should use a better language that has exceptions. |
| 19:58.00 | Dagmar | Then you could have your code *automatically* ignore the result of malloc |
| 20:00.27 | kd3 | wait, what? |
| 20:00.29 | kd3 | scrolls up |
| 20:01.15 | Maldivia | Dagmar: well, TC asked fomr something that compiled, and a C compiler was the most likely that was readily available to him :P |
| 20:01.50 | Dagmar | >.< |
| 20:01.54 | Dagmar | Nooooo... |
| 20:02.07 | Dagmar | Error messages are your friends. Listen to them. |
| 20:02.09 | nevcairiel | exceptions are for sissys |
| 20:02.41 | Dagmar | Exceptions are for people who prefer to keep all the code they're too lazy to write in one place. |
| 20:03.03 | Maldivia | Dagmar: and yeah, had it been for something else than a quick one-line program to allocate a ton of memory, then yeah, I would have tested for exceptions/errors etc |
| 20:03.48 | nevcairiel | usually every malloc should be checked for success ... in the real world, i usually forget a bunch of them :( |
| 20:03.57 | nevcairiel | not that it happens too often that someone runs OOM |
| 20:04.23 | Dagmar | I just know I'm abuot to strangle the next person who chimes in with "Exceptions are better" when I carp at someone for ignoring the exit status of their function call |
| 20:04.30 | nevcairiel | if your app dies with a OutOfMemory exception, its probably not going to be much more graceful either |
| 20:04.40 | Dagmar | I swear I think they cause brain damage like GOTO. |
| 20:05.05 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 20:05.07 | Fisker | i'm tired |
| 20:05.13 | nevcairiel | go sleep |
| 20:05.31 | kd3 | WHC_DK_2 - Death Knights are now less overpowered. |
| 20:05.36 | kd3 | this /needs/ to go live like that |
| 20:05.41 | Dagmar | nevcariel; Better to have it say that than to wonder if the problem was tainted data, corrupted disk files, high network latency, Marxism, or the CPU being on fire. |
| 20:06.00 | Corgan | kd3 |
| 20:06.06 | Corgan | the title for WHC DK is QQ |
| 20:06.07 | Corgan | :D |
| 20:06.08 | kd3 | yup |
| 20:06.13 | Corgan | best ever |
| 20:06.22 | Unkle | Dagmar: Aaaah… the loathing for BASIC logic structure/program flow is cute. |
| 20:06.27 | nevcairiel | i miss the joke, whats WHC |
| 20:06.29 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 20:06.37 | kd3 | what has changed |
| 20:06.38 | Fisker | i like where that is going |
| 20:06.43 | Fisker | everything changes |
| 20:06.45 | kd3 | WHAT_HAS_CHANGED_HELP_1 - This is a quick overview of what has changed for your class. |
| 20:06.58 | nevcairiel | they show that in game now? :p |
| 20:07.06 | kd3 | if not this build the next |
| 20:07.29 | kd3 | is still waiting for the patch to show up on the launcher so he can patch the proper way |
| 20:07.56 | nevcairiel | i started my launcher earlier and it got patched, however i dont know when i started it last, so i may be one late :P |
| 20:08.06 | kd3 | that was last build |
| 20:08.15 | kd3 | 15668 |
| 20:08.23 | kd3 | 15677's out, just not on the launcher yet |
| 20:08.46 | Maldivia | kd3: you should get a mail within 5-10 minutes of it hitting the launcher :P |
| 20:08.52 | kd3 | yup |
| 20:09.02 | kd3 | has his gmail tab pinned |
| 20:10.35 | Fisker | oh nos |
| 20:10.38 | Fisker | i'm going to kill you |
| 20:10.38 | TC-Work | i detect a hint of fanaticism |
| 20:10.52 | mikma | fisker: http://www.break.com/index/trolling-the-weather-girl-2325585 |
| 20:11.00 | Torhal|work | deallocates Fisker. |
| 20:11.03 | kd3 | trying to get this stuff done before I go on vacation this weekend... little brother's graduating from school |
| 20:11.30 | Maldivia | mikma: LOL |
| 20:15.31 | mikma | maldivia: http://www.break.com/index/worlds-unluckiest-couple-2325258 |
| 20:16.09 | Maldivia | aw |
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| 20:20.44 | mikma | Mark Ruffalo owned as The Hulk btw |
| 20:23.11 | Maldivia | agree |
| 20:31.08 | Fisker | high fives jnwhiteh |
| 20:32.13 | mikma | http://youtu.be/o18u4jeeUPY |
| 20:32.30 | mikma | that + scummvm |
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| 20:41.07 | Maldivia | or usb external harddrive, and then you have a cheap nas |
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| 20:43.56 | dusf_ | does anyone know a way to stop alt-tab switching the player out from wow to another program in windows? |
| 20:44.01 | dusf_ | i'd like to bind that combination to a key |
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| 20:45.03 | Dagmar | Nothing inside the game can do that |
| 20:46.41 | Maldivia | but programs exists that disable those key combinations (or you could do it yourself, by setting up a globat windows keyboard hook, and eat them when it's alt-tab) |
| 20:52.03 | dusf_ | Maldivia: i've tried a few programs, some don't allow changing tab, and the rest allowed it but not changing the actual combination of both keys together |
| 20:52.43 | dusf_ | so i was able to keymap tab for the windows key which changed the combination to 'alt-tab' but this screwed around with things in game because tab was the windows key, rendering the changes useless |
| 20:55.14 | Dagmar | Don't even bother trying to remap the windows key |
| 20:55.40 | Dagmar | The only way to disable it is with an icepick or a keyboard that has a switch to turn it off. |
| 20:55.43 | Dagmar | No joke. |
| 20:56.05 | nilyaK | would die without her winkey. |
| 20:56.45 | nilyaK | Win + R, Win + L, Win + M, I use it all the time =/ |
| 20:56.59 | kd3 | cross-realm zones? |
| 20:57.00 | kd3 | wow |
| 20:57.04 | Maldivia | Dagmar: Win32 API - SetWindowsHookEx can do it for you :P |
| 20:57.13 | kd3 | http://us.battle.net//wow/en/blog/5393667 |
| 20:57.26 | Dagmar | Maldivia: In the API, sure. Not from within apps. |
| 20:57.39 | dusf_ | Maldivia: do i need to be able to program a certain language to do it? |
| 20:57.41 | Dagmar | Microsoft was very clear about that one being a reserved operating system function. |
| 20:57.47 | Maldivia | dusf_: yeah :) |
| 20:57.55 | dusf_ | :) |
| 20:57.57 | dusf_ | but also :( |
| 20:58.02 | Maldivia | Dagmar: the program can use that and override the bindings |
| 20:58.25 | Dagmar | "can" and "supposed to" are two different things entirely. |
| 20:58.30 | nilyaK | god |
| 20:58.37 | nilyaK | welcome to fishing contest hell |
| 20:58.40 | Maldivia | kd3: wow! |
| 20:58.45 | Fisker | wow what? |
| 20:58.51 | Fisker | i think it's kinda hilarious |
| 20:58.55 | Dagmar | Just because I can set my computer on fire with a zippo doesn't mean Notepad is meant to be able to do it as well |
| 20:58.59 | Fisker | promises fix to low population realm issue |
| 20:59.03 | Fisker | fails to see the issue |
| 20:59.04 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 20:59.19 | nilyaK | stv and northrend fishing contests cross-realm |
| 20:59.20 | nilyaK | owwww |
| 20:59.31 | kd3 | hopefully not |
| 20:59.32 | nilyaK | also how does this impact pvp and pve servers |
| 20:59.35 | Fisker | will probably be a great time to nerf them kd3 |
| 20:59.52 | kd3 | one would also hope they'd have a pvp pool and a pve pool |
| 21:00.21 | Dagmar | Now you're guaranteed to be able to find people to killsteal from |
| 21:00.22 | Fisker | they could also just have a shared pool |
| 21:00.30 | Dagmar | Griefers will celebrate |
| 21:00.34 | nilyaK | lol gathering nodes will be fun |
| 21:00.44 | Fisker | killsteal what from? |
| 21:00.51 | Maldivia | kd3: sounds a lot like how GW worked |
| 21:01.48 | Adys | https://github.com/blog/1106-say-hello-to-octicons |
| 21:01.49 | Dagmar | Fisker: Anything |
| 21:01.52 | Adys | that is really, really cool |
| 21:02.16 | Adys | i should follow mobile development more often |
| 21:02.18 | Fisker | respawn timers for normal quest mobs and no tagging rules for quest bosses? |
| 21:02.28 | Dagmar | Fisker: Let us know when you start playing MMOs again |
| 21:03.02 | Fisker | umad Dagmar ? |
| 21:03.11 | Dagmar | ustupid Fisker? |
| 21:03.32 | Fisker | let me know when the only argument against your flawed logic can be countered by something else than "ustupid" |
| 21:03.33 | Fisker | thanks |
| 21:04.05 | nilyaK | http://mop.wowhead.com/spell=125167#comments |
| 21:04.07 | Dagmar | Hey if you need someone to explain kill-stealing/griefing to you, clearly you fail to meet the minimum requirements for the conversation. |
| 21:04.16 | *** part/#wowuidev tutti (~paalvaa@213.222.202.84.customer.cdi.no) |
| 21:04.19 | Dagmar | Ain't my fault your mom liked stupid guys |
| 21:04.31 | Fisker | soothes poor Dagmar |
| 21:04.33 | Fisker | aww |
| 21:07.55 | Adys | is there a way to display http headers only when querying an url? |
| 21:07.59 | Adys | with curl or wget or something |
| 21:09.25 | Adys | hm |
| 21:09.31 | Adys | curl has --dump-header but that requires a file |
| 21:10.45 | Arrowmaster | dump it to /dev/stdout |
| 21:12.03 | Maldivia | Adys: use -I |
| 21:12.21 | Maldivia | Adys: that does a HEAD request instead of GET (for curl that is) |
| 21:12.35 | Adys | Maldivia: aha that works |
| 21:12.44 | Adys | didnt think of that |
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| 21:21.28 | Adys | Maldivia: wee |
| 21:21.29 | Adys | % htmime http://dedimine.com/public/faithfulmix.zip |
| 21:21.29 | Adys | application/zip |
| 21:21.48 | Cide | well duh |
| 21:21.49 | Cide | it says .zip |
| 21:22.01 | Cide | ~~ |
| 21:22.02 | Corgan | licks Adys |
| 21:22.56 | Maldivia | Adys: :P |
| 21:23.01 | Adys | Maldivia: % htmime http://dedimine.com/mpq/WoWT/15050.direct/Updates/wow-0-15211-OSX-final.MPQ |
| 21:23.01 | Adys | application/vnd.bliz.mpq |
| 21:23.20 | Adys | I really have to get that OCD checked out |
| 21:23.44 | Adys | hi Corgan |
| 21:23.50 | Corgan | How's it goin |
| 21:24.48 | Adys | none of yer business |
| 21:24.49 | Adys | but good |
| 21:25.21 | TC-Work | hey Adys, yer a dick |
| 21:25.44 | Corgan | oh :( |
| 21:26.57 | Unkle | TC-Work: How is this news to anyone? |
| 21:29.27 | TC-Work | Unkle: It's not, i just felt like stating it again |
| 21:29.27 | TC-Work | it made me feel good |
| 21:29.47 | Unkle | Well, making oneself feel good is … perfectly natural and nothing to be ashamed of… |
| 21:30.06 | nilyaK | though do it in public you get labeled a sex offender |
| 21:30.39 | TC-Work | depends where you do it |
| 21:31.17 | Unkle | If you do it on a stage, it's "art" |
| 21:31.53 | jnwhiteh | Damn you et words |
| 21:34.21 | TC-Work | yes! i fucking called the voice actor for the templar |
| 21:34.27 | TC-Work | feels really good now |
| 21:34.50 | Arrowmaster | http://steamcommunity.com/games/rockstargames/announcements/detail/1045078427175199696 |
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| 21:37.44 | kd3 | ooh, a new answer: With this technology, we can also flag zones to allow for more than one copy of that zone per realm. Players on that realm will be split among those copies in order to alleviate problems due to overpopulation. Players won’t normally see or interact with those on a different instance of their zone, although joining a party will relocate all party members to a single instance of that zone |
| 21:38.38 | Arrowmaster | how many other mmo's have done that in the past? |
| 21:38.43 | Arrowmaster | i can think of at least AO |
| 21:39.01 | BlackNet | so the merging begins |
| 21:39.14 | Dagmar | Not merging |
| 21:40.46 | Gnarfoz | I wonder how they're going to do it, really, since for the last 9 years, the continents have been one continuous instance |
| 21:40.51 | Stanzilla | tickles Gnarfoz |
| 21:40.59 | Gnarfoz | also, our network admin is a fucking moron |
| 21:41.21 | Gnarfoz | wasted basically my entire evening because he was too stupid to even /once/ use teh googles |
| 21:41.23 | Dagmar | Probably the same way you quietly transition to the appropriate phase everywhere else that uses phasing |
| 21:41.45 | Maldivia | Arrowmaster: Guild Wars |
| 21:42.05 | Arrowmaster | guild wars was a bit different |
| 21:42.22 | Gnarfoz | "it has gbic ports? ok, that probably means we can do 10 GBit/s over it" |
| 21:42.28 | Maldivia | kd3: the question is... will there be a loading screen switching between zone-copies? |
| 21:42.30 | Gnarfoz | or whatever went through is tiny brain |
| 21:42.39 | Gnarfoz | *his |
| 21:43.51 | foxlit | Maldivia: no |
| 21:46.05 | BlackNet | that has a great potential to bite them on the ass |
| 21:46.07 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: one can easily imagine some sort of server connection hand-off in the background. "Oh, you're entering zone X? I'll now forward your realm communication to server Y." |
| 21:46.38 | bleeter | http://www.itworld.com/it-managementstrategy/276638/fsf-president-stallman-falls-ill-conference |
| 21:47.07 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: true; just wondering which point exactly they sank their hooks in to do it :) we'll probably never know :D |
| 21:47.11 | foxlit | but everything around zone boundaries will now probably a dead zone |
| 21:47.17 | foxlit | no resource nodes, no quests, no mobs. |
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| 21:49.56 | BlackNet | ok so what project am i going to work on tonight |
| 21:51.07 | nilyaK | Hope he's OK, Stallman is totally crazy and out there but I feel he does lots of good. |
| 21:53.16 | Dagmar | Yeo, |
| 21:53.20 | Dagmar | er yep. |
| 21:53.41 | Dagmar | Someone has to stand up and say "yes, it's possible to use open source everything and still get things done" |
| 21:54.46 | Dagmar | 100 years from now his name will easily be as widespread as Adam Wieshaupt |
| 21:55.02 | BlackNet | getting things done is not the problem |
| 21:55.05 | BlackNet | greed is the problem |
| 21:56.15 | Dagmar | Well, considering the primary argument against the software is that it's unprofessional, incomplete, unsupported, and supports communism... |
| 21:56.39 | Dagmar | ...when that's generally only true of _commercial_ software. *ahem* |
| 21:56.54 | zenzelezz | nonsense |
| 21:56.54 | BlackNet | not what ive seen in the field. |
| 21:57.01 | zenzelezz | it's not communism when you have to pay for it |
| 21:57.03 | zenzelezz | zomg |
| 21:57.14 | BlackNet | rarely if ever have i heard mention of communism |
| 21:57.31 | zenzelezz | go back to the US after the war |
| 21:57.35 | Kraps | greed, for lack of a better word, is good |
| 21:57.37 | Dagmar | Large companies with gov't subsidies. |
| 21:57.37 | nilyaK | def heard the supports communism claim |
| 21:57.48 | Dagmar | Greed isn't good. |
| 21:57.52 | BlackNet | sigh, here we go |
| 21:58.03 | Dagmar | Greed is neutral. |
| 21:58.09 | BlackNet | i have a great number of clients that use open source apps |
| 21:58.18 | Dagmar | People driven by greed trying to take everything they can are bad. |
| 21:58.53 | BlackNet | well |
| 21:59.01 | BlackNet | have you seen the series 'parking wars'? |
| 21:59.05 | Unkle | Actually, Greed is Chaotic Neutral. |
| 21:59.12 | Dagmar | No I generally ignore shitty television entirely. |
| 21:59.20 | Dagmar | Unkle++ |
| 21:59.35 | BlackNet | well it's not so shitty |
| 21:59.38 | BlackNet | lemme find it |
| 21:59.51 | Unkle | Though Greed can also be Lawful Evil, and Neutral Evil or Neutral Good |
| 22:00.02 | Kraps | Unkle, for lack of a better word, is good |
| 22:00.23 | Unkle | *bows* |
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| 22:01.24 | TC-Work | I'm not sure i would call greed CN |
| 22:01.51 | nilyaK | I call greed an enchantment, BB, but I forget what it does |
| 22:01.53 | Unkle | Greed is all about the "self" |
| 22:01.59 | Dagmar | Wow. |
| 22:02.08 | nilyaK | http://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=2107 |
| 22:02.12 | nilyaK | 3B |
| 22:02.16 | nilyaK | oh well |
| 22:02.21 | foxlit | http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_abkMP58OLUA/S-eOq4cQNoI/AAAAAAAAT5Y/zicVRjFzxMI/s1600/x6+Greed-Ling+injured.jpg << what, this guy? Seems CN to me? |
| 22:02.31 | TC-Work | nilyaK: i have that one somewhere |
| 22:02.32 | Dagmar | Idiot central sent me a meeting invitation to discuss enabling an SSL feature in their software that I'm quite certain they're too goddamn ignorant to be able to support. |
| 22:02.41 | Dagmar | Tomorrow is going to be a barrel of laughs. |
| 22:03.02 | Kraps | i started getting into MTG |
| 22:03.10 | Dagmar | Anyone who's wasted as much of my time in the office as these people had better be glad they live several states away. |
| 22:03.20 | Unkle | MTG is so .. 90s. |
| 22:03.30 | nilyaK | I know right |
| 22:03.31 | BlackNet | cant find it now |
| 22:03.34 | nilyaK | I miss the 90's |
| 22:03.35 | TC-Work | MTG is still go damit! |
| 22:03.38 | TC-Work | good* |
| 22:03.42 | TC-Work | ...i need lunch |
| 22:03.46 | Dagmar | This is far beyond flaming bag of poop stage and well into "break into house in middle of night and poop directly in user's hogtied mouth" anger |
| 22:03.52 | TC-Work | meanders away |
| 22:04.06 | Kraps | MGT, for lack of a better word, is good |
| 22:04.16 | Kraps | MTG |
| 22:04.49 | xyphoid | i sold off all my cards in 2003-2004 but i still get tempted reading the shiny new stuff |
| 22:05.08 | Dagmar | Good thing TN is a one-party consent state, because now I am definitely mad enough to put the recording of the phone call and all the ludicrous crap they're going to say on YouTube for all to enjoy. |
| 22:05.46 | Unkle | I still have an old deck or two around in a box somewhere. I played the game lots when it was new and hand giant cases of cards. |
| 22:05.52 | BlackNet | found it |
| 22:06.12 | BlackNet | here read this. http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-05-09/parking-tickets-drivers-license/54862386/1 |
| 22:06.12 | Kraps | http://i.imgur.com/13bXL.jpg |
| 22:06.15 | Unkle | Also, Bitches don't even know: http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=2080 |
| 22:08.06 | Torhal | Unkle: That's right, you tell ALL the bitches. |
| 22:08.19 | Unkle | Bitches don't even know. |
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| 22:10.22 | foxlit | how horrible would things be if I compiled Lua with long double as the number type? |
| 22:11.24 | zenzelezz | with which compiler? |
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| 22:11.39 | zenzelezz | I think some of them say "fuck that" and just use a normal double |
| 22:11.53 | foxlit | gcc or llvm |
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| 22:12.21 | Fisker | Sleep foxlit |
| 22:12.36 | Torhal | compiles Fisker with -o3. |
| 22:12.58 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: does this http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=u06wUniQVlk#! |
| 22:13.07 | zenzelezz | "Previous 16-bit versions of Microsoft C/C++ and Microsoft Visual C++ supported the long double, 80-bit precision data type. In Win32 programming, however, the long double data type maps to the double, 64-bit precision data type. The Microsoft run-time library provides long double versions of the math functions only for backward compatibility." |
| 22:13.15 | zenzelezz | so it was VS that didn't do long double |
| 22:14.49 | Fisker | That makes no sense jnwhiteh |
| 22:15.15 | Arrowmaster | somebody is posting pics from the D3 limited edition guide on reddit |
| 22:15.20 | Arrowmaster | 16 pages of achievements |
| 22:15.38 | Fisker | Wouldn't you want to stop the tower from leaning instead of trying to topple it? |
| 22:17.22 | Arrowmaster | "Wirt's Case Scenario" "Acquire Wirt's Cowbell." |
| 22:17.37 | Fisker | No Arrowmaster |
| 22:17.47 | Fisker | Cease and desist |
| 22:17.51 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Is one of them "Bash Fisker with Wirt's Third Leg"? |
| 22:19.19 | Maldivia | Arrowmaster: unless there's an achievement called "WoW Killer", I'm not interested in knowing any of them till after release :P |
| 22:19.38 | Fisker | why mean Torhal ? |
| 22:20.18 | Arrowmaster | there are achievements for reading Beastiary/People/Quest/World lore books |
| 22:20.38 | Fisker | so think that Blizzard can break 3.5 Million copies sold in 7½ months? :D |
| 22:20.42 | Arrowmaster | oh fuck i just read the worst spoiler of all |
| 22:20.59 | Arrowmaster | the final kill achievement |
| 22:21.14 | Fisker | owned Arrowmaster |
| 22:21.30 | Arrowmaster | "Kill Decard Cain" |
| 22:21.48 | nilyaK | lol |
| 22:22.17 | Fisker | wtb ban pls |
| 22:22.49 | Arrowmaster | "Gotta Catch Them All" "Play cooperative games with the following hero classes." |
| 22:24.54 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck is this shit, the final boss kill achievement for inferno hardcore doesnt give any banner parts |
| 22:25.06 | TC-Work | QQ? |
| 22:25.20 | Arrowmaster | only normal does |
| 22:25.51 | TC-Work | i fail to see the issue |
| 22:26.28 | Fisker | they'll probably add one by the time someone actually gets there :D |
| 22:27.37 | clever | "i'll get it later" |
| 22:28.33 | Arrowmaster | "Kill 666 enemies with a falling chandelier" |
| 22:29.12 | Arrowmaster | ok i found my favorite achievment |
| 22:29.29 | Arrowmaster | "Punch ******" "Punch ******." |
| 22:29.34 | Arrowmaster | censored for spoilers |
| 22:30.06 | Arrowmaster | and it gives a banner sigil |
| 22:30.50 | Maldivia | well, stop writing about it then - if people in this channel want to be spoiled, I'm sure they are all capable of finding the information on reddit or other places |
| 22:31.02 | TC-Work | ^ |
| 22:31.13 | Adys | I'm going blind into d3 |
| 22:31.18 | Adys | I don't know how I managed to do that |
| 22:31.20 | Arrowmaster | you guys are no fun |
| 22:31.23 | Adys | I can't even name all the classes |
| 22:31.26 | Fisker | i got an achievement Adys |
| 22:31.28 | TC-Work | we will be....after release |
| 22:31.28 | Fisker | before game is out |
| 22:31.47 | Arrowmaster | also theres an achievement for killing a list of mobs while wearing all items died pink |
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| 22:33.02 | Maldivia | I wonder if there's an achievement for quelching Arrowmaster |
| 22:33.40 | Arrowmaster | well i got to the end of the achievement list so im quelched |
| 22:33.48 | Adys | so, I figured out what was wrong with my computer |
| 22:33.59 | Adys | regularly, *all* my usb devices would disconnect all at once |
| 22:34.10 | Adys | wouldn't be able to plug them back in or anything |
| 22:34.43 | Adys | turns out, microusb is a piece of shit |
| 22:35.15 | Maldivia | the USB went in D3 mode? |
| 22:35.29 | Adys | two different mybook hard drives' microusb cables would just disconnect after a lot of IO |
| 22:35.37 | Adys | the mobo's usb hub on the back of my computer doesn't deal well with that and dies |
| 22:36.11 | Adys | i moved the hd to a PCI USB hub and when it dies, i just have to remount the hd, dont even have to reconnect the cable |
| 22:36.18 | nebula169 | my logitech g5 mouse started randomly overloading/resetting the entire usb bus, that was always exciting |
| 22:36.19 | Adys | this is an issue ive been having for 5 years |
| 22:36.25 | Adys | actually 4 |
| 22:37.24 | Maldivia | sounds like some bad hardware |
| 22:38.19 | Adys | yeah, bad mobo |
| 22:39.14 | foxlit | >= math.pow(2,64)+2 --> 18446744073709551618; >=math.pow(2,64)+3 --> 18446744073709551620 |
| 22:44.27 | Maldivia | foxlit: your point being? |
| 22:44.54 | foxlit | adding 1 adds 2, obviously. |
| 22:46.49 | Maldivia | double's only have a precision of around 16 digits... |
| 22:47.36 | foxlit | lua> math.pow(2,64) |
| 22:47.55 | foxlit | foxlit: 1.844674407371e+19 |
| 22:49.18 | foxlit | the number type is not double for that output. |
| 22:49.33 | Maldivia | lua> (math.pow(2,64)+2) == (math.pow(2,64)+3) |
| 22:50.59 | foxlit | the bot would say true |
| 22:51.29 | foxlit | but the interpreter I was quoting would say false. |
| 22:51.54 | Maldivia | depends how it's compiled |
| 22:52.02 | Maldivia | if the underlying number is 64 or 80 bit |
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| 22:52.58 | foxlit | it's a slight misfortune that I can't make it use the e+19 syntax if and only if it's out of precision bits. |
| 22:56.14 | Maldivia | to be on the save side, just assume that anything with more than 15 digits is out of precision bits |
| 22:56.20 | Maldivia | safe* |
| 22:56.44 | foxlit | That defeats the point of this exercise. |
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| 23:11.58 | Sintacks | //tokenize 124 E:\Games\World of Warcraft\WoW.exe|E:\Games\World of Warcraft Multibox\wow.exe|E:\Users\Gary\Desktop\keyclone.lnk | run $* |
| 23:12.02 | Sintacks | i need a life |
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| 23:14.29 | Stanzilla | what for |
| 23:15.18 | arton | So how do parents get on to their kids these days? All cap texts? |
| 23:16.00 | TC-Work | 'get on to', or 'down on'? |
| 23:16.18 | arton | o.O |
| 23:16.23 | arton | your a sick sick person |
| 23:16.53 | TC-Work | no, getting down on someone means you are angry at them |
| 23:17.01 | TC-Work | this is the problem with slang |
| 23:17.17 | arton | I've never seen that. |
| 23:17.24 | arton | It's always "getting onto" |
| 23:18.16 | TC-Work | and to me 'getting onto' would be finding out their kids secret stuff |
| 23:18.20 | arton | gets onto TC-Work and yells "Giddie up." |
| 23:18.32 | arton | lol |
| 23:18.36 | TC-Work | but in answer to your question, i think they still just yell at them |
| 23:18.52 | arton | speak to text? |
| 23:18.56 | arton | Lol |
| 23:19.54 | arton | step Dad left the stove on. I woke up thinking the place was on fire. |
| 23:20.01 | arton | It's smokey. |
| 23:20.13 | arton | stinks |
| 23:20.22 | TC-Work | open a window |
| 23:20.27 | TC-Work | hell, open two! |
| 23:20.30 | arton | they're open |
| 23:20.32 | bleeter | Very nice HTML5 Audio/Canvas demo for Firefox 4 and above http://www.nihilogic.dk/labs/pocket_full_of_html5 |
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