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| 01:29.33 | batbot | Shirik fears to duel a bot, what a coward. |
| 01:30.52 | kd3 | wow... a level 87 gnoll |
| 01:30.55 | kd3 | who would've thought? |
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| 01:46.41 | karl_w_w | kd3: Hogger |
| 01:47.12 | kd3 | is in stocks, which has yet to get a heroic mode |
| 01:47.32 | kd3 | the hogger raid boss, on the other hand... |
| 01:57.08 | kd3 | bleh. my mobo is so old I'm not even sure they sell memory listed in the manual for it any more |
| 01:58.14 | karl_w_w | what does it take? sd? |
| 01:58.22 | Dagmar | Oh I'm sure you can still find 30-pin FPRAM on eBay under the Antiques category |
| 01:58.36 | Dagmar | ...just don't ask them to tell you if it's 60ns or 70ns |
| 01:58.38 | kd3 | eh, newegg doesn't sell it, but I'm finding results on amazon |
| 01:58.49 | kd3 | it's an asus p5e-vm do |
| 01:59.30 | Dagmar | So, 72-pin sticks then |
| 01:59.40 | Dagmar | It's probably flammable you know |
| 02:00.04 | karl_w_w | wait, newegg dont sell ddr2? |
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| 02:00.20 | kd3 | all of the model numbers I'm copy/pasting are deactivated |
| 02:00.21 | Dagmar | THey were last month |
| 02:00.47 | Dagmar | You only have part numbers? |
| 02:01.15 | Dagmar | Figure out what the geometry on them is supposed to be and just order something that matches it |
| 02:01.21 | kd3 | http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5E-VM_DO/P5E-VM_DO_QVL.zip |
| 02:02.37 | Dagmar | I can't for the life of me remember which geometry was the more-likely-to-work one, beyond that sticks with just two chips on them aren't going to work with older boards of that stripe |
| 02:11.01 | kd3 | hokay, 8GB of ram purchased, should be here on wednesday |
| 02:15.49 | TC-Work | "Roasted Pork w/ hot buttered apples" that sounds veru appetizing |
| 02:15.51 | TC-Work | very* |
| 02:16.18 | TC-Work | unappetizing* |
| 02:16.19 | kd3 | maybe with the apples ground up as a glaze of some kind? |
| 02:16.41 | TC-Work | i dunno, it was just an email sent out about leftovers |
| 02:16.41 | Dagmar | I can see you have never eaten that |
| 02:16.46 | Dagmar | That's okay. I'll take your share. |
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| 02:17.30 | TC-Work | i'm sure you will |
| 02:17.35 | Dagmar | They are slap-your-mother delicious |
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| 02:18.01 | TC-Work | maybe i should go get one just to throw away |
| 02:18.03 | TC-Work | brb |
| 02:18.30 | Dagmar | Fuck. Now I have to make some dinner |
| 02:19.05 | Dagmar | hopefully I will be able to get through the week now without mugging my great aunt for my grandmother's recipe for that |
| 02:20.46 | TC-Work | because asking is too hard? |
| 02:20.59 | Dagmar | It didn't work the last time. |
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| 02:21.11 | kd3 | part of me wants to be out there to see it... the rest of me would rather hide in a bunker: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/05/google-gets-license-to-test-drive-autonomous-cars-on-nevada-roads.ars |
| 02:21.33 | Dagmar | At least the cars won't be high on coke |
| 02:22.04 | Corrodias2 | the cars will have people in them, to hit the kill switch if something goes wrong, as i recall |
| 02:22.24 | Corrodias2 | the switch that makes the car ensure there are no witnesses |
| 02:22.26 | Dagmar | The cars also won't go "We're driving through the desert. Of course it's okay to do 120mph" |
| 02:22.34 | Corrodias2 | yeah |
| 02:22.54 | Corrodias2 | that's how they should market it: "Can they really be worse than everybody else on the road already?" |
| 02:23.12 | Dagmar | You could get elected on that platform in some cities |
| 02:24.50 | TC-Work | and that is fucking sad |
| 02:25.38 | Gnarfoz | and still would improve the situation! |
| 02:28.35 | Dagmar | Put that together with "...and I'll actually show up to vote on bills when I'm supposed to" and you'd be a shoo-in for a Tennessee senator's post right now |
| 02:29.23 | Dagmar | Like, half our congressmen have been voting for the other half for most of this year, a news station is breaking this news, and the speaker claims to somehow not know this has ever been going on |
| 02:29.32 | Dagmar | ...because mainly, she's only there about 2/3 of the time |
| 02:29.51 | Dagmar | Frankly I'd like to see them get bagged for falsifying time cards. |
| 02:31.42 | Dagmar | Andrew Jackson knew what to do with a stick on the house floor, and it wasn't pushing the voting buttons on an empty desk. |
| 02:34.12 | TC-Work | allright, who the fuck got Dagmar started? |
| 02:34.22 | TC-Work | glares around the channel |
| 02:34.35 | znf | looks around, too |
| 02:40.17 | pompy | points at TC-Work |
| 02:44.32 | TC-Work | lies! |
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| 03:35.31 | TC-Work | how to you test for a var that doesnt exist in tcsh? |
| 03:36.23 | Dagmar | I don't think that language understands undef, IIRC |
| 03:36.39 | Shirik | envisions tcsh as being TC-Work's shell |
| 03:36.41 | Dagmar | That's a dodgy thing even in bash |
| 03:36.54 | TC-Work | it's my work shell anyway |
| 03:37.01 | Dagmar | You have to use set or export, put it's output into a list, and then go look for the name of the variable |
| 03:37.16 | Dagmar | Not sure that's even _possible_ in tcsh |
| 03:37.42 | TC-Work | the problem is i am checking for SUDO_USER, and it bitches if it doesnt find it |
| 03:37.56 | TC-Work | and by bitches i mean drops you out of the script |
| 03:39.20 | Dagmar | `set` does the same sort of thing in csh |
| 03:39.34 | Dagmar | I recommend trying _some other way_ |
| 03:40.00 | Dagmar | What you have to do to detect an undefined variable isn't pleasant, nor is it short |
| 03:40.13 | Dagmar | Otherwise, wrap that fucker in doublequotes |
| 03:41.53 | Dagmar | bash evaluations throw a fit when an empty variable gets interpreted as nothing which sort of fails to be an argument |
| 03:42.04 | Dagmar | "" brings it back around to being fat & happy |
| 03:42.41 | Dagmar | If you're trying to discern the difference between "" and undef/unset tho, it's going to get unpleasant |
| 03:43.00 | TC-Work | well it's never going to be empty |
| 03:43.05 | TC-Work | it's either going to exist or not |
| 03:43.27 | Dagmar | I am seeing csh scripts using "$1" so it should work if you just wrap the variable in double-quotes |
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| 03:43.53 | Dagmar | i.e., while ("$1" != "" ) |
| 03:46.10 | TC-Work | http://pastebin.com/zaLuG4Q5 even if i "" i still get "SUDO_USER: Undefined variable." |
| 03:48.16 | pompy | "We will be unlocking the game's installer at 8:01 a.m. PDT on May 14. This will allow you to begin installing the game, troubleshoot any issues you run into, download and install the launch day 1.0.1 patch, and be ready to play as soon as the servers come online." |
| 03:48.18 | pompy | nice |
| 03:50.25 | Dagmar | TC-work: On line 5? |
| 03:51.33 | TC-Work | Dagmar: yes |
| 03:51.40 | Dagmar | TC-work: Some people would put the $?SUDO_USER check _before_ that point |
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| 03:52.05 | Dagmar | I was under the impression tho that if line 5 were if ( "$SUDO_USER" == "root" ) it shouldn't get upset about it |
| 03:53.14 | Dagmar | I am terrified to think of what you're trying to accomplish with this tho' |
| 03:53.16 | TC-Work | nope, still doesnt like it |
| 03:53.25 | TC-Work | i commented out the other part |
| 03:53.50 | Dagmar | So since I looked it up and now I know that $?SUDO_USER is an existence check, you should probably do that _before_ you try to do anything with $SUDO_USER |
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| 03:55.05 | Dagmar | This fairly reeks of being a "clever" solution to something tho'. |
| 03:55.22 | TC-Work | trying to get people not using it as root |
| 04:01.19 | Dagmar | People who are root running sudo? |
| 04:01.33 | Dagmar | I thought you could forbid that with the sudoers file |
| 04:02.29 | TC-Work | we dont want people to ssh root@foo and use it |
| 04:02.48 | TC-Work | and we dont want people to recurse sudo to do it either |
| 04:03.03 | Dagmar | EZ-MODE: PermitRootLogin no |
| 04:03.44 | Dagmar | If these are VMs people can always get to the console. They should have no cause to ever ssh in as root |
| 04:04.29 | TC-Work | people dont have access to the console |
| 04:04.42 | TC-Work | the is hellishly complicated |
| 04:05.20 | Arrowmaster | when would $USER not be root but $SUDO_USER be root |
| 04:06.12 | Arrowmaster | oh i guess when root uses sudo to switch to a different user |
| 04:06.38 | Dagmar | ...which is somewhat insane |
| 04:06.43 | Therzok | how do I access php variables in javascript? |
| 04:06.47 | TC-Work | actually no, user and sudo_user are the same in that case |
| 04:06.48 | Dagmar | Root *should* be using su - |
| 04:07.13 | Dagmar | ...but you should be able to explicitly forbid root from running sudo with sudoers, I think |
| 04:07.22 | Dagmar | Strange as that may seem |
| 04:07.37 | clever | root ALL=(ALL) ALL |
| 04:07.50 | clever | the default file has a rule to let root do anything, just comment it out |
| 04:09.04 | Dagmar | Or just add a !/usr/bin/sudo to that |
| 04:09.43 | Dagmar | ...or rather a Cmnd_Alias for sudo and flip *that* with ! |
| 04:13.19 | TC-Work | meh, home time, i'll work on it some more tomrrow |
| 04:13.41 | pompy | in the office at 9pm damn |
| 04:13.58 | TC-Work | my usual schedule is 11AM to 10PM |
| 04:14.12 | TC-Work | but i'm coming in an hour early |
| 04:24.57 | acethebunny | damnit. i saw this thread the somewhere the other day that gave a way to disable Esc canceling a summon but i don't remember where it was, or what it was |
| 04:26.34 | Kraps | http://calmblueoceans.com/18/ |
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| 04:42.11 | Fisker | hey TC-Work |
| 04:42.13 | Fisker | not so hey Dagmar |
| 04:44.12 | AcidWeb | Morning |
| 04:55.20 | Thunder_Child | TC-Work aint workin no more Fisker. |
| 04:55.55 | Fisker | oh ok Thunder_Child |
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| 05:02.24 | karl_w_w | TC-Slacker? |
| 05:03.30 | arton | "...voting for one’s living is a great deal easier than working for it." - Judd Gregg |
| 05:04.33 | Thunder_Child | karl_w_w: something like that |
| 05:08.00 | kd3 | whee, most of kun-lai is now on the wiki |
| 05:08.36 | karl_w_w | damn you and your copyright infringement kd3 |