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| 00:23.22 | Shirik|Ghost | http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/dentist-pulls-her-ex-boyfriend-teeth-split-210829769.html |
| 00:24.10 | Kaylin | bitch. =/ |
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| 00:25.21 | pompy | old! |
| 00:27.18 | pompy | ....... HAHA. |
| 00:27.20 | pompy | http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/obi-wan-kenobi-arrested-hit-run-202349276.html#more-4437 |
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| 00:58.54 | BlackNet | lol that's funny |
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| 02:15.46 | Jamash | I think ISPs get a /48 and end users get a /64 |
| 02:16.51 | Arrowmaster | no it varries |
| 02:16.54 | Jamash | which is stupidly large, but I'm not the IETF/IANA |
| 02:17.40 | Arrowmaster | everybody thinks end users will be getting /56 or /64s but i still think thats not going to happen |
| 02:17.46 | Jamash | I think whoever suggested handing out more than a /96 (aka the size of the current entire internet) to end users should be taken out and shot |
| 02:17.50 | ajmitch | is an end user with a /48 at home |
| 02:18.52 | Jamash | here, let's quadruple the length of addresses and then only use 3/8 of it |
| 02:19.04 | Arrowmaster | yeah its stupid |
| 02:20.35 | Jamash | it's like the new 128 bit address space made them so giddy they couldn't think straight anymore and had to chop it down to a size that could conceivably be used up again |
| 02:21.47 | tlund | Jamash: the reason each broadcast domain is a /64 is because of EUI64-based autoconfiguration. |
| 02:21.56 | Jamash | why even have 128 bit addresses if less than half of the bits are used? why not 64-bit addresses |
| 02:22.04 | Jamash | tlund: I know the excuse, but it's not a reason |
| 02:22.16 | tlund | what of the 128 bits do you think are unused? |
| 02:22.25 | Arrowmaster | half of them |
| 02:22.28 | ajmitch | just because you disagree with it doesn't make it an 'excuse' |
| 02:22.31 | tlund | (disclaimer: i work for a big ISP that does IPv6) |
| 02:22.42 | Jamash | ajmitch: no, the fact that it's *stupid* makes it an excuse |
| 02:23.05 | ajmitch | again, just because you don't understand it doesn't make it stupid :P |
| 02:23.26 | Jamash | no, the fact that it's stupid makes it stupid |
| 02:23.31 | tlund | [04:15] #wowuidev <Jamash> I think ISPs get a /48 and end users get a /64 |
| 02:23.33 | tlund | WRONG |
| 02:23.38 | tlund | [04:18] #wowuidev <Jamash> here, let's quadruple the length of addresses and then only use 3/8 of it |
| 02:23.41 | tlund | WRONG |
| 02:24.08 | tlund | come to think of it |
| 02:24.23 | tlund | you are just wrong. all of you. now, go away. |
| 02:24.55 | Kraps | ban tlund for trolling |
| 02:25.21 | Shadowed | Play nicely |
| 02:25.29 | Jamash | tell me about how having 16 bits of every ipv6 address be the same is useful, tlund |
| 02:25.34 | Shadowed | Cairenn isn't here |
| 02:25.37 | Jamash | I'm dying to know |
| 02:25.52 | Shadowed | (and as they say, when the cats are out, I can ban people for being jerks) |
| 02:25.54 | Shadowed | so both of you play nice |
| 02:25.56 | tlund | Jamash: they are the same only if it is an EUI64 derived from an ethernet mac-address. |
| 02:26.17 | Jamash | which is the excuse for having 64 bits be the minimum for a subnet, yes |
| 02:26.37 | TC-Work | now now Shadowed, even cairenn waited a bit before threatening with the ban-hammer |
| 02:26.51 | Jamash | in case you want to put every ethernet adapter that will ever exist on the same subnet |
| 02:26.52 | tlund | if you are not doing SLAC, you are free to use other prefixlengths. |
| 02:26.56 | Kraps | TC-Work, get out |
| 02:27.34 | TC-Work | Kraps: and go where? |
| 02:27.38 | tlund | Jamash: whatabout things that are NOT ethernet? |
| 02:27.39 | Shadowed | She's nicer |
| 02:27.41 | Kraps | uh |
| 02:27.46 | Kraps | go to |
| 02:27.49 | Kraps | uh |
| 02:27.52 | Jamash | what about them? |
| 02:28.06 | Jamash | are there 65536 kinds of mac address? |
| 02:28.15 | Arrowmaster | im predicting some isps will use dhcp6 instead of slac and end up being able to put all customers on a single /64 |
| 02:28.24 | Jamash | no doubt |
| 02:28.30 | Arrowmaster | its what i would do |
| 02:28.36 | Jamash | in fact, you could put every host on the internet in a single /64 |
| 02:28.40 | tlund | wow |
| 02:28.43 | Jamash | which is my point |
| 02:28.45 | Jamash | it's stupid |
| 02:28.51 | TC-Work | I'm thinking that we will be able to use up a large majority of the addresses. |
| 02:29.08 | Jamash | TC-Work: no, just a majority of prefixes |
| 02:29.24 | Jamash | since the prefixes are so short |
| 02:29.32 | Jamash | and the suffixes idiotically long |
| 02:29.56 | tlund | sorry, i have to stop reading before my head exploads. |
| 02:30.00 | tlund | good luck guys. |
| 02:30.01 | TC-Work | Jamash: say....150 addys per house? |
| 02:30.31 | Jamash | tlund: have fun being intellectually superior but unable to explain anything |
| 02:31.18 | Jamash | TC-Work: more like 150,000,000 |
| 02:31.27 | Jamash | there'd still be room to spare in 64 bits |
| 02:32.18 | TC-Work | 7.5e+17 |
| 02:32.39 | TC-Work | asuming one house for every 2 people and a pop of 10 bill |
| 02:32.52 | TC-Work | thats what it would take for your 150,000,000 |
| 02:33.05 | Jamash | I'm allowing for arcologies and low orbit habitats |
| 02:33.38 | Jamash | and moon colonies |
| 02:35.42 | mckenziemc | don't forget one for every hair on Fisker's butt |
| 02:35.54 | Iriel | Isn't the point of the 64/64 split that only 64 bits need to be involved in routing, and then address allocation within that routed destination becomes trivial because there's essentially no risk of collision? |
| 02:36.19 | Jamash | Iriel: that's the supposed reason, yes |
| 02:36.28 | Jamash | I think it's a dumb reason |
| 02:37.05 | Iriel | I dunno, I kind of the like the idea that not only do the ISP's have a vastly larger address space, but so do *I* |
| 02:37.12 | Jamash | why don't we make telephone numbers 30 digits long, that way we'll never run out! |
| 02:37.25 | Iriel | because telephones dont have DNS, yet. |
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| 02:37.57 | Jamash | because now every piece of software that deals with (telephone numbers/ip addresses) has to store and handle wads of bits that are larger than necessary |
| 02:38.23 | Iriel | I think you're protesting a little too much |
| 02:38.42 | Iriel | And arguably limiting routing to 64 bits SAVES memory on the devices where speed is super critical |
| 02:38.49 | Iriel | but 128 bits is hardly a lot |
| 02:39.44 | Jamash | consider how much bandwidth will be wasted from now until forever transmitting 128 extra bits of data per ipv6 packet |
| 02:40.09 | Jamash | normal MTUs are only about 1500 bytes these days |
| 02:40.45 | Jamash | that's wasting 1% of every packet |
| 02:42.21 | mckenziemc | oh no |
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| 02:43.01 | Jamash | now, what is the price of the entire aggregate transfer capacity of the internet per year |
| 02:43.24 | Jamash | congrats, you just wasted 1/100 of that very large sum of money |
| 02:44.27 | Iriel | On the other hand |
| 02:44.35 | Iriel | IPv6 allows jumbograms |
| 02:44.42 | Iriel | and is designed to be far more efficient to route |
| 02:44.55 | Iriel | I'm fairly sure the designers of this stuff did think that kind of basic thing through |
| 02:46.28 | Gnarfoz | you think? |
| 02:47.04 | Iriel | Gnarfoz: just a guess 8-) |
| 02:47.11 | Gnarfoz | they started this before the www was barely in wide-spread use |
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| 02:52.03 | kd3 | sigh. just my luck that there's a patch when I'm at work |
| 02:56.27 | pompy | about 4 hours late! |
| 02:58.32 | kd3 | well, the vm's nearly done patching... just gotta copy stuff out |
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| 03:02.21 | TC-Work | kd3: dont you get alerts wehen new patches get released? |
| 03:02.44 | kd3 | I do, but there's only so much I can do at work when I have to patch beta in a vm |
| 03:03.01 | TC-Work | no remote access? |
| 03:03.07 | TC-Work | GUI remote access* |
| 03:03.21 | kd3 | maybe, but I'd rather not waste my data plan on that |
| 03:03.33 | TC-Work | no free wifi at work? |
| 03:03.41 | kd3 | hah, no |
| 03:03.42 | pompy | psh |
| 03:03.43 | pompy | haha |
| 03:03.58 | pompy | i bring my kindle fire to work and cant access the internet, it sucks. |
| 03:04.02 | Arrowmaster | you work at a starbucks and dont get free wifi? |
| 03:04.14 | kd3 | a starbucks inside a target, yes |
| 03:04.25 | TC-Work | still seems like they would give it |
| 03:04.40 | kd3 | target keeps saying no. I ask my target district leadership every time they drop in |
| 03:04.52 | TC-Work | do they give a reson? |
| 03:04.54 | TC-Work | reason* |
| 03:05.03 | kd3 | "We'll think about it." and I never hear back |
| 03:05.23 | TC-Work | i would figure that anything that gets people to spend more time in there is a good one. |
| 03:05.35 | TC-Work | i mean eventually they would buy something |
| 03:05.40 | TC-Work | it's human nature |
| 03:05.54 | mckenziemc | buys a coffee maker |
| 03:06.11 | kd3 | that's what I keep saying, along with "the freestanding starbucks a quarter-mile away from us has free wifi and we lose guests to them all the time because of this" |
| 03:06.17 | TC-Work | thats ok, everyone else buys tasty cofee |
| 03:06.26 | kd3 | huh, 2700-line diff |
| 03:06.27 | TC-Work | coffee* |
| 03:06.51 | mckenziemc | coffee, tasty? |
| 03:07.36 | TC-Work | it does when it does not taste like coffee |
| 03:07.39 | pompy | probably bc target and starbucks recently did a deal in canada |
| 03:08.02 | kd3 | largely because target just bought out some chain and is going to be rebranding/reopening a few dozen stores next year |
| 03:12.35 | TC-Work | so i buy a new tv, then they say pick your delivery time...ok, not a problem. Then they say, we are also going to unpack it and test it....thanks for telling me after. |
| 03:12.43 | TC-Work | dicks |
| 03:23.16 | pompy | http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/195-million-sea-shadow-stealth-sub-sale-only-172525837.html :O |
| 03:23.36 | TC-Work | yea, but you have to dispose of it |
| 03:23.49 | TC-Work | eg. you only get it for the scrap |
| 03:31.56 | TC-Work | walked by two people bitching in the hall "so we have delivery in 5 weeks, but the studio still doesn know how the movie is going to end." >.< |
| 03:32.10 | TC-Work | doesnt* |
| 03:44.26 | Arrowmaster | http://kotaku.com/5906854/what-an-aliens-pulse-rifle-looks-like-in-the-real-world SO FUCKING WANT |
| 03:44.38 | Arrowmaster | it can even fire live ammo! |
| 03:50.41 | kd3 | lmao. no /1 in kun-lai summit. I guess blizz /really/ doesn't care for the bs that was going on in jade forest a few builds ago |
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| 04:06.00 | Mr_Rabies | i really hope they get rid of zone-based chat channels altogether |
| 04:06.04 | Mr_Rabies | and just link all of them in the world |
| 04:06.36 | Mr_Rabies | people would be less likely to idle in stormwind if they could actually ever talk to another person sometime otherwise |
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| 04:19.13 | kd3 | oh wow, that's a song I haven't heard in a while... "Harvey Danger - Flagpole Sitta" |
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| 04:26.06 | bluspacecow | >_< kd3 |
| 04:26.12 | bluspacecow | now i have that song stuck in my head |
| 04:26.20 | kd3 | hahaha |
| 04:26.27 | TC-Work | ~kd3++ |
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| 04:31.03 | karl_w_w | Adys: old I know, but use PS/2 |
| 04:31.42 | karl_w_w | it does have better key rollover |
| 04:32.00 | karl_w_w | and it also responds to key presses faster |
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| 05:06.33 | AcidWeb | Morning |
| 05:10.38 | mckenziemc | night |
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| 05:16.02 | karl_w_w | afternoon |
| 05:16.48 | neutronimity | morning <3 |
| 05:29.12 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 05:29.23 | bluspacecow | oh hai |
| 05:29.27 | Fisker | why? |
| 05:29.39 | bluspacecow | hi2u |
| 05:29.56 | Fisker | :( |
| 05:29.59 | Fisker | i don't wanna hi2u |
| 05:30.22 | bluspacecow | lawz |
| 05:33.37 | Fisker | lawz? |
| 05:34.15 | Fisker | wanna have dirty sex bluspacecow ? |
| 05:34.25 | bluspacecow | oks |
| 05:35.53 | Fisker | i'm bored bluspacecow |
| 05:35.54 | Fisker | you? |
| 05:36.54 | karl_w_w | Fisker, just gonna stand there and watch me burn? well that's alright cos I like the way it hurts |
| 05:37.05 | Fisker | ujelly karl_w_w ? |
| 05:40.21 | Thunder_Child | no, he is Rihanna |
| 05:40.46 | Thunder_Child | huh, did not know she is in battleship |
| 05:44.35 | karl_w_w | is rihanna mad? |
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| 06:37.42 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 06:37.52 | bluspacecow | ladik's MPQ editor got a facelift |
| 06:39.46 | bluspacecow | i think it's easier to use now |
| 06:53.14 | bluspacecow | hey someone was asking earlier today i think about a repair option for Beta ? |
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| 07:01.28 | Thunder_Child | yes, someone was |
| 07:09.42 | Fisker | your mom got a facelift bluspacecow |
| 07:09.48 | Fisker | get it? |
| 07:09.48 | bluspacecow | nice |
| 07:10.15 | bluspacecow | @Thunder_Child Ladik's MPQ editor has a verify files option. You could open all the MPQ files in mIxed mode then run that maybe |
| 07:18.43 | Sintacks | opens bluspacecow in mixed mode |
| 07:18.58 | bluspacecow | Oh My! |
| 07:22.59 | Sintacks | found out something interesting today: default unit frames show blood stack count in a special frame thingy on spine: http://puu.sh/suLs |
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| 07:28.01 | Fisker | umad Sintacks ? |
| 07:29.01 | Fisker | https://apps.db.ripe.net/whois/lookup/ripe/inet6num/2a01:4f8:d12:1104::/64.html |
| 07:29.04 | Fisker | ujelly Gnarfoz ? |
| 07:31.30 | bluspacecow | don be jelly Gnarfoz |
| 07:31.34 | bluspacecow | be caramel :D |
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| 08:09.15 | Thunder_Child | bluspacecow: you should be telling that to Gnarfoz, he was the one asking. |
| 08:15.49 | kd3 | --Recycle players? Sounds like soylent purplez. |
| 08:15.59 | kd3 | is just now looking at the diff he emailed a few hours back |
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| 09:01.48 | Adys | tekkub: why the hell is this in github's robots.txt: https://github.com/ekansa/Open-Context-Data |
| 09:02.52 | tekkub | I'm sure they were doing something stupid and the sysadmins had to block the bots |
| 09:03.46 | tekkub | yup |
| 09:04.49 | Fisker | hey there tekkub |
| 09:04.53 | tekkub | hey |
| 09:05.04 | Adys | tekkub: what were they doing? |
| 09:05.20 | tekkub | generating a shittonne of errors |
| 09:05.24 | tekkub | who knows why |
| 09:05.28 | Adys | Oo |
| 09:05.43 | Adys | what kind of err? |
| 09:05.49 | tekkub | fuck if I know |
| 09:06.33 | tekkub | probably something to do with the fact the repo looks like it's 500MiB |
| 09:07.41 | Adys | http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2012/05/introducing-ceres-solver-nonlinear.html |
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| 09:47.42 | Fisker | Adys |
| 09:47.57 | Fisker | does a "For Dummies" version of setting up your linux/ubuntu server as a tunnel broker exist? :D |
| 09:48.05 | Fisker | for ipv6 that is |
| 09:50.21 | Fisker | btw who used the etch-n-sketch on that tokyo map? |
| 09:50.22 | mitch0 | http://www.sixxs.net/faq/connectivity/?faq=ossetup&os=linuxdebian |
| 09:50.36 | Fisker | nope.mp4 mitch0 |
| 09:50.49 | Fisker | i want to do what sixxs.net does for my own server |
| 09:55.32 | Adys | Fisker: never had the use for that, so dunno |
| 09:56.45 | mitch0 | fisker: http://getipv6.info/index.php/First_Steps_for_ISPs#Setup_A_Tunnel_Broker |
| 10:01.02 | Fisker | oh shit Gnarfoz |
| 10:01.05 | Fisker | the nazis are invading |
| 10:02.54 | Humbedooh | umad? |
| 10:04.58 | Fisker | nope |
| 10:05.01 | Fisker | but i scared |
| 10:08.49 | Humbedooh | kk, invasion over |
| 10:09.26 | Fisker | nope |
| 10:09.29 | Fisker | but i just had an idea |
| 10:09.41 | Fisker | what if the germans attacked on the first wednesday in may |
| 10:09.46 | Fisker | that would be pretty awesome |
| 10:10.02 | Humbedooh | l2recognize the different alarm signals |
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| 13:24.00 | Arrowmaster | http://superuser.com/questions/419070/transatlantic-ping-faster-than-sending-a-pixel-to-the-screen |
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| 13:39.08 | Kalroth | Arrowmaster: it really puts our global networks in perspective :) |
| 13:39.24 | Arrowmaster | notice who answered the question |
| 13:40.00 | Kalroth | yup yup :) |
| 13:45.29 | Arrowmaster | http://i.imgur.com/Hpsp1.jpg |
| 13:45.58 | Kalroth | when you just got that urge for a matchbox car |
| 13:47.15 | Fisker | quantum entanglement Arrowmaster |
| 13:48.54 | Arrowmaster | Kalroth: its in a hospital |
| 13:49.06 | Fisker | wow |
| 13:49.09 | Fisker | i just came Arrowmaster |
| 13:49.17 | Fisker | John Carmack is a nerd |
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| 13:58.24 | Sintacks | Fisker, i love you. have my babbies. |
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| 14:01.48 | Kalroth | http://i.imgur.com/acZEd.jpg haha, thanks EA! |
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| 14:15.26 | Jamash | hey beta beta |
| 14:17.49 | Fisker | haha Kalroth |
| 14:18.29 | karl_w_w | <Kalroth> http://i.imgur.com/acZEd.jpg haha, thanks EA! <- why? o.O |
| 14:19.29 | Shirik | Cide-: Want to hear something awesome? |
| 14:19.37 | Shirik | Everyone except eve ranked on Hagara |
| 14:20.42 | Lopeppeppy | If every day started with a champagne toast, I would enjoy work a lot more. |
| 14:20.46 | Jamash | "EA Mobile has offered no official reason that the App will be unplayable after the end of this month" |
| 14:22.54 | Kalroth | karl_w_w: limited licenses for the songs |
| 14:23.15 | Kalroth | Jamash: you can try and ask their support: http://support.eamobile.com/ |
| 14:23.39 | Jamash | I don't have an iDevice so IDC |
| 14:26.13 | Kalroth | click the link anyways |
| 14:26.58 | Jamash | lololololololol |
| 14:27.09 | Jamash | oh ea |
| 14:27.11 | Jamash | you so crazy |
| 14:27.58 | Jamash | still unable to validate game version :( |
| 14:28.08 | alestane | Did something get toasted today, Peppy, or are you just daydreaming? |
| 14:31.47 | Lopeppeppy | Successful mini-campaign push at work, alestane. |
| 14:31.56 | alestane | Huzzah! |
| 14:33.14 | Lopeppeppy | The fund-raisers celebrate their successes, and give out fun prizes, and have cookies and gatherings. Surprise, they have morale in their area, when there's champagne for breakfast if a job is well-done. |
| 14:33.59 | Lopeppeppy | The grand boss didn't even KNOW I was helping on the mini-campaign, he's that clueless, much less think to tell me it was a good job since we triumphed. |
| 14:34.06 | alestane | Mimosas tend to make everyone more enthusiastic. |
| 14:34.25 | alestane | Blarg. |
| 14:34.48 | alestane | Did someone, at least, think to give Peppy some champagne? |
| 14:35.50 | Lopeppeppy | Oh yes, the people I worked with on the project were awesome. I'd ask if there was a permanent web spot over there, except that's the Great Grand Boss's group, and I don't think he'll poach me. |
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| 14:38.51 | Ressy | Jamash, I dunno why you keep having such problems. |
| 14:39.18 | Jamash | inorite |
| 14:39.33 | Jamash | it's cool, there's a workaround |
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| 14:54.09 | Elkano | too bad Caireen isn't on :( http://2.asset.soup.io/asset/3141/3362_2eb8.gif |
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| 14:54.50 | Lopeppeppy | That's a good jump! |
| 14:55.34 | karl_w_w | shopped |
| 14:58.12 | alestane | Yay, Redmine and Rails back in sync. Isn't Ruby supposed to facilitate updates or something? |
| 14:59.43 | nevcairiel | ruby is just the language. :d |
| 15:00.06 | alestane | I suspect it's not Ruby as much as Ruby on Rails. |
| 15:02.39 | karl_w_w | ruby wax? |
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| 15:14.30 | Jamash | lololololololol I fixed unable to validate |
| 15:14.36 | Lopeppeppy | Excellent news! |
| 15:14.40 | Maldivia | Elkano: now you just need to teach it to fold as well :P |
| 15:15.02 | Lopeppeppy | Let's not go overboard, Maldivia. |
| 15:15.03 | Jamash | thanks to Sysinternals Process Monitor I discovered that WoW.exe is looking for Launcher.exe in every directory on the PATH |
| 15:15.35 | Jamash | Samsung PC Studio 3 happens to include a file named Launcher.exe |
| 15:15.40 | Jamash | and put itself on the PATH |
| 15:16.06 | Jamash | and its file version is 3.6.10.26 :3 |
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| 15:20.18 | SNiLD | good job samsung |
| 15:27.29 | karl_w_w | wow |
| 15:27.48 | karl_w_w | that's fucking terrible Jamash |
| 15:28.04 | Jamash | inorite |
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| 15:29.45 | Thunder_Child | on a side note, why the hell do you have PC Studio 3 installed? |
| 15:30.40 | Fisker | man i farted Thunder_Child |
| 15:31.00 | Thunder_Child | so did i Fisker |
| 15:31.54 | Maldivia | Jamash: live or mop? |
| 15:32.10 | Jamash | beta |
| 15:32.35 | Jamash | Thunder_Child: I don't know |
| 15:33.07 | Jamash | oh yes I do, I was trying to copy stuff out of an old phone before getting rid of it |
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| 15:34.55 | Jamash | uninstalled it, beta now works |
| 15:35.02 | Maldivia | Jamash: don't see why it's looking for anything called Launcher though :P |
| 15:35.09 | Thunder_Child | somehow i thought it was audio software. |
| 15:35.15 | Jamash | Oh it's definitely blizzard's fault |
| 15:35.50 | Maldivia | Jamash: which process is looking for that? |
| 15:36.56 | Jamash | WoW.exe |
| 15:37.26 | Ressy | Jamash: Report it. |
| 15:37.26 | SNiLD | when you try to look for executables with standard commands without full path, the default behavior is to search for the binary path, working path and then user path and global path |
| 15:37.40 | Ressy | We ran into the same problem with ssleay32.dll |
| 15:37.54 | SNiLD | i don't see it reasonable for using hard coded paths |
| 15:37.57 | Ressy | Was using various copies of the file (including Panda antivirus') causing the launcher to crash. |
| 15:38.38 | nevcairiel | you can change the default functions to favor your apps path before the global path, though |
| 15:38.47 | nevcairiel | anyway, adding some arbitrary app into path is bad. :p |
| 15:38.56 | Jamash | it should only look in the wow directory |
| 15:39.02 | SNiLD | that's how it works by default but if it can't find it, it will search all those paths |
| 15:39.15 | SNiLD | you'll have to whine to microsoft about that then |
| 15:39.39 | SNiLD | and they won't change how that api works |
| 15:39.42 | nevcairiel | personally, i would be more worried what weird apps linger in my PATH |
| 15:39.45 | Jamash | I'm guessing that the cause is that they changed the name of the Launcher for the beta but didn't update the code that looks for it. |
| 15:39.45 | SNiLD | they know it's broken |
| 15:40.08 | Jamash | Ressy: Already did http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4768328201?page=1#3 |
| 15:40.12 | Ressy | good. |
| 15:40.24 | Ressy | The problem is going to end up being because of the stupid Agent they introduced |
| 15:40.29 | Ressy | its nothing but freakin problems. |
| 15:41.20 | Maldivia | Jamash: hmm, I guess the problem is only present if the game is not up to date :P |
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| 15:41.59 | Unkle | station or something |
| 15:42.07 | Maldivia | wagon or something |
| 15:42.12 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Unkle. |
| 15:42.42 | Jamash | has nothing to do with the agent or whether the game isn't up to date |
| 15:43.01 | karl_w_w | yea but nar but yea but nar |
| 15:43.04 | Jamash | it's wow.exe looking in the wrong place for a file that doesn't exist |
| 15:43.10 | Kraps_w | sue blizzard |
| 15:43.16 | Kraps_w | its the only way |
| 15:43.17 | Jamash | sues Kraps_w |
| 15:43.30 | Kraps_w | nooooooo |
| 15:44.01 | SNiLD | looking for files like that causes all sorts of injection problems not limited to that Launcher.exe |
| 15:45.06 | Maldivia | Jamash: I'm just saying, I can't reproduce it with latest MoP |
| 15:45.52 | Jamash | you don't have samsung pc studio 3 installed, do you? |
| 15:46.56 | Maldivia | no, but I have a launcher.exe file on path |
| 15:47.06 | Jamash | what is it? |
| 15:47.18 | Maldivia | copy of notepad :P |
| 15:48.32 | Maldivia | and starting wow.exe, there are no launcher.exe queries in procmon |
| 15:49.46 | Jamash | can't help you there |
| 15:50.00 | SNiLD | but do you have launcher enabled even? |
| 15:50.19 | Jamash | I'm running "World of Warcraft Beta Launcher.exe" |
| 15:50.44 | Maldivia | Jamash: so was just wondering if you had tested it after MoP was updated - perhaps it's been fixed in the latest version :P |
| 15:53.00 | Jamash | yes, I tested the latest version |
| 15:53.19 | Lopeppeppy | I read that as "tasted". I think I'm hungry. |
| 15:53.48 | Maldivia | Lopeppeppy: hehe, me too :P |
| 15:54.11 | Lopeppeppy | Okay, so at least it's not just me in this box of "demented weirdness" |
| 15:54.13 | karl_w_w | peels grapes and feeds them to Lopeppeppy |
| 15:54.40 | Maldivia | Jamash: ok - well, it's nice that you found what was the problem at your end, it just puzzles what differs in the two setups that's causing it not to appear here |
| 15:56.10 | Fisker | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 15:58.08 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, thanks karl_w_w |
| 15:58.13 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Fisker-bear. |
| 15:58.21 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:58.27 | Fisker | i'm not a bear |
| 15:58.29 | Lopeppeppy | Lunch! |
| 15:58.30 | Fisker | i just carry around a trout for no reason |
| 15:58.58 | Jamash | Maldivia: It doesn't look until you try to log in |
| 15:59.06 | Jamash | did you log in or just run wow and then exit? |
| 16:01.48 | Fisker | btw Lopeppeppy |
| 16:01.58 | Fisker | i got 18 quintillion ipv6 addresses apparently |
| 16:02.01 | Fisker | impressed? |
| 16:02.37 | Jamash | it's not the size of the subnet, it's what you do with it |
| 16:03.18 | Fisker | :( |
| 16:03.47 | Jamash | man, process monitor is frikken awesome |
| 16:03.54 | Lopeppeppy | When you use it for good and not for evil, Fisker, I will be impressed. |
| 16:04.15 | Jamash | Fisker: you could set up a billion virtual nodes then DDoS yourself |
| 16:04.19 | Fisker | it's not used for evil :( |
| 16:04.27 | Fisker | sounds silly Jamash |
| 16:04.38 | Jamash | silly is my stock in trade Fisker |
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| 16:43.03 | Kraps_w | http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1125906-Illuminati?p=16666864#post16666864 |
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| 16:48.09 | Kraps_w | heehee http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/221803-really-blizzard/ |
| 16:52.57 | Jamash | Kraps_w: apparently some people don't know what a 301 redirect is |
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| 17:01.11 | Jamash | so being able to log in to the beta does not necessarily imply that I can actually play the game |
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| 17:01.32 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, no, what ever gave you the idea that they would be connected somehow? |
| 17:02.05 | Jamash | I've been struggling with unable to validate for a week and this is the thanks I get |
| 17:03.04 | Kraps_w | you should write an angry post about how long you played the game |
| 17:03.27 | Jamash | I'd rather write an angry post about how long I've been trying to play the game |
| 17:06.44 | Lopeppeppy | today being tuesday, any chance a small patch will help clear that problem up? |
| 17:07.19 | Kraps_w | its wednesday |
| 17:08.17 | Lopeppeppy | It what? |
| 17:08.28 | Lopeppeppy | bangs her head on her desk repeatedly. When did that happen? |
| 17:08.30 | Kraps_w | this is what happens when you use the Time-Turner too much |
| 17:08.36 | Dagmar | Too much drinkin |
| 17:08.57 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, blackout from those three sips of champagne for breakfast. |
| 17:10.16 | nevcairiel | shouldnt you be happy its already wednesday? |
| 17:10.22 | nevcairiel | one day less work this week |
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| 17:11.23 | alestane | Also one day less to meet deadlines. |
| 17:12.22 | cogwheel | and being older than you thought <.< |
| 17:12.56 | Lopeppeppy | See? The pessimists have got me covered. |
| 17:13.30 | alestane | giefs hugs. |
| 17:16.27 | Unkle | Pessimism is the optimistic view of reality. |
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| 17:17.04 | cogwheel | my caffeine collection is up to 215 items. I guess i should start cataloguing them... It's getting hard to recognize things I don't already have |
| 17:17.28 | Dagmar | Unless "empties" count I coulnd't have a collection like that |
| 17:17.44 | cogwheel | all the cans & bottles are empty |
| 17:17.55 | Dagmar | Oh wow |
| 17:18.08 | Dagmar | I have enough carefully cut empty cans of Full Throttle to make a suit of freaking armor |
| 17:18.35 | Lopeppeppy | snorgles Unkle companionably. |
| 17:18.48 | cogwheel | every single can is a different product |
| 17:19.07 | Lopeppeppy | And he has some non-can items, IIRC. Like gum and chocolate and soap! |
| 17:19.08 | nevcairiel | how about the same product with a different can design? :d |
| 17:19.09 | Dagmar | Ah... I'm a bit too elitist for that kind of collection then. |
| 17:19.15 | cogwheel | yup |
| 17:19.24 | cogwheel | (@ chocolate & soap) |
| 17:19.30 | Dagmar | They keep trying to shill me Rockstar over at the Mapco. |
| 17:19.49 | Dagmar | I don't care if it's 10 for $1. It's barely more caffiene than Coca-Cola |
| 17:20.11 | cogwheel | nevcairiel: nope. same for different sizes of the same product |
| 17:20.27 | Dagmar | I liked Monster's caffienated Yoohoo |
| 17:20.29 | cogwheel | although I *do* have diet vs regular |
| 17:20.30 | nevcairiel | they do make some funny special event cans sometimes! |
| 17:21.00 | cogwheel | sometimes i'll switch a can out of the same product because i like the design better, but there's only 1 example of each set of ingredients |
| 17:21.54 | cogwheel | i just realized i don't have a HFCS mountain dew... only diet & throwback |
| 17:22.28 | Dagmar | Isn't that just normal Mt. Dew |
| 17:23.06 | cogwheel | in america, yes. elswhere there aren't the same sugar taxes & corn subsidies so "throwback" is more normal than normal mountain dew |
| 17:23.16 | Dagmar | Ohhh |
| 17:23.22 | Lopeppeppy | They are different ingredients though, so it counts! |
| 17:23.25 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 17:23.39 | Dagmar | Well, the texture is slightly different between them |
| 17:24.04 | Mr_Rabies | i don't really know if HFCS is any worse for you than cane sugar, but cane sugar sure does taste better and have a way nicer mouthfeel |
| 17:24.04 | Dagmar | I'm not sure if that's because of the sugar change, or because they used a different amount of gelatin |
| 17:24.09 | cogwheel | HFCS has a more... tart flavor and a stronger after taste |
| 17:24.19 | Mr_Rabies | hfcs is more syrupy tasting |
| 17:24.26 | Mr_Rabies | makes mountain dew especially goopy and slimy |
| 17:24.32 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: A little 8oz can I can practically turn inside out |
| 17:24.34 | Lopeppeppy | *giggle* mouthfeel *snark* |
| 17:24.41 | cogwheel | sugar has a "cleaner" minerally flavor and a better after taste |
| 17:24.47 | Dagmar | If I *notice* a taste it's a rarity |
| 17:25.18 | Dagmar | I'll sip from a bottle tho since I can close it back up |
| 17:25.29 | Unkle | Yes, cane sugar tastes differently than HFCS does, but both are radically bad for you. :) |
| 17:25.33 | Dagmar | Cans are a spill hazard |
| 17:25.59 | Dagmar | Unkle: Everything will give you cancer if you consume five times your body weight of it in a day. There's no sense worrying abuot things we've been eating for thousands of years |
| 17:26.39 | cogwheel | everything is perfectly safe and perfectly dangerous. only thing that matters is the dose |
| 17:26.56 | Dagmar | Well, that depends. |
| 17:27.50 | Lopeppeppy | I am perfectly deadly in any dose. |
| 17:27.56 | cogwheel | meow |
| 17:27.58 | Unkle | Dagmar: sugars, particularly fructose in the quantities Americans consume today metabolise into some nasty products, the primary one being fat and they do damage to the liver over time similar to the fermented form of sugars called alcohol. Sceince is a wonderful thing. |
| 17:28.28 | cogwheel | Unkle: that's true to the same extent that oxygen metabolizes into carbon dioxide |
| 17:28.39 | cogwheel | it's just how the body works. |
| 17:28.49 | cogwheel | we need the sugars (calories) to survive |
| 17:29.00 | cogwheel | the only problem is when your calories in surpass your ability to burn them |
| 17:29.04 | Unkle | Yes, but that's not the thing I'm referencing. |
| 17:29.17 | Unkle | Let me dig up the research presentation. |
| 17:29.37 | cogwheel | "in the quantities Americans consume today" |
| 17:29.40 | cogwheel | is the key part |
| 17:30.01 | cogwheel | don't bother because that was my point :P |
| 17:30.32 | Unkle | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM - Dr. Lustig covers the chemistry in this presentation. I'm not saying you shouldn't have any. I'm saying we consume too much. |
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| 17:33.34 | Unkle | Interesting: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/may/02/otzi-iceman-blood-sample |
| 17:34.05 | Dagmar | Some forms of epilepsy react badly to phenylkeytonurics(sp?) i.e. nutrasweet |
| 17:34.05 | batbot | Dagmar, nothing found. |
| 17:34.40 | Unkle | Dagmar: I'm one of those people who react badly to aspertame. |
| 17:34.43 | cogwheel | phenylketonuria is the disease, and phenylketoneuric is the person with it |
| 17:35.02 | Dagmar | Unkle: do you become homocidal and/or violent> |
| 17:35.11 | Unkle | No more so than usual. |
| 17:35.19 | Dagmar | Fair 'nuff |
| 17:35.40 | Dagmar | I watched my gf pick up a knife and start stabbing a wall when that stuff first came out |
| 17:35.47 | Dagmar | In a pizza hut |
| 17:35.50 | Dagmar | Fun night. |
| 17:36.01 | Unkle | She's epileptic? |
| 17:36.06 | Dagmar | She was |
| 17:36.12 | Lopeppeppy | I think... I will not have dinner with Cairenn and Unkle. |
| 17:36.32 | Lopeppeppy | I had dinner with Cairenn once, but I didn't sit at her table, figuring it wasn't fair to sit with people I knew. |
| 17:36.47 | Dagmar | It was odd finding her after she'd had a seizure, because she'd sort of just be wandering aimlessly around campus looking vacant |
| 17:36.50 | Unkle | Awww, Peppy, look at how many others have had dinner with us both at the same table… and lived to tell the tale! |
| 17:37.18 | Dagmar | ...but at least she wasn't stabbing things like a drinkybird |
| 17:37.36 | Dagmar | No more Dr Pepper with nutrasweet for her! |
| 17:37.41 | Unkle | Dagmar: I dated a girl with epilepsy for a bit. She had a seizure in a resturaunt and I had to call an ambulance. |
| 17:38.21 | Lopeppeppy | I didn't had dinner with you, so I dunno, Unkle. |
| 17:38.21 | Dagmar | Big seizures might be dangerous but at least you can tell they're goin gon |
| 17:38.46 | Dagmar | The little ones where it was like someone gave their brain a good zapping with a cattle prod that I found problematic |
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| 17:39.06 | Lopeppeppy | I actually did prefer when my clients had grand mal seizures, for exactly that reason, Dagmar. I knew exactly what I was seeing, no question. Petit mal are so... vague and disturbing. |
| 17:39.18 | Dagmar | They're a lot of fun when your passenger is the one navigating |
| 17:39.29 | Dagmar | "That |
| 17:39.44 | Dagmar | "That's the sixth left turn we've made dear... You sure you're feeling alright?" |
| 17:40.13 | Unkle | This was small, but strong. She went from talking to drooling and non-animate, then non-responisve. |
| 17:40.21 | Dagmar | Gotta listen careful to catch that "floaty-drifty" tone in their voice |
| 17:40.35 | Unkle | Spooked the shit out of me. |
| 17:41.11 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. Some of my clients were non-verbal, no floaty-cues for me. |
| 17:49.15 | karl_w_w | yyyes isketch time |
| 17:52.38 | Kraps_w | hey does D3 have permadeath |
| 17:53.05 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 17:53.10 | karl_w_w | on hardcore or higher |
| 17:55.15 | *** join/#wowuidev kopoba (lucker@bb-188-93-29-195.pppoe.fannet.ru) |
| 17:55.31 | kopoba | hello from what version gatherer get ability to import db? wowhead db? |
| 17:55.41 | kopoba | maybe some one know the answer here |
| 17:57.45 | Lopeppeppy | I don't know, but are you using the most recent version? http://www.gathereraddon.com/ |
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| 17:59.23 | karl_w_w | why is nobody volunteering to play isketch with me? |
| 17:59.44 | Lopeppeppy | And this is the documentation for Gatherer, so you'd find the info there perhaps. http://wiki.norganna.org/Gatherer_Documentation |
| 17:59.44 | kopoba | Lopeppeppy no |
| 18:00.06 | kopoba | Lopeppeppy and yes i read that article nothing there |
| 18:00.18 | karl_w_w | why not use the latest? |
| 18:00.36 | kopoba | im playing on private server |
| 18:00.42 | Ressy | figured |
| 18:00.54 | kopoba | an it use old wow version |
| 18:01.03 | Lopeppeppy | kopoba, that's not something we can help you with here then. We don't discuss private servers on this channel. |
| 18:01.23 | kopoba | Lopeppeppy im not discuss porvate server |
| 18:01.37 | Lopeppeppy | OR issues related to them. |
| 18:01.39 | Arrowmaster | you are on a private server and asking for help, thus... |
| 18:01.40 | Arrowmaster | LEAVE |
| 18:01.59 | alestane | Given that your issue stems from playing on a private server, not something you're gonna get much help with here, no. |
| 18:02.22 | kopoba | you dont read my question? |
| 18:02.29 | Dagmar | No, we don't *care* about your question. |
| 18:02.31 | Dagmar | There's a difference. |
| 18:02.40 | Kraps_w | rude |
| 18:02.46 | kopoba | the why you talkink to me? |
| 18:02.58 | Dagmar | Because some people get the hint without needing violence done to them. |
| 18:03.18 | Kraps_w | i vote for violence |
| 18:03.45 | kopoba | no one know the answer on my question? |
| 18:03.56 | TC-Work | if we did, we will not help now |
| 18:03.59 | Dagmar | No, we don't care. |
| 18:04.01 | kopoba | why? |
| 18:04.10 | Dagmar | "Private servers" are not worth helping. |
| 18:04.11 | TC-Work | Because private servers are a no-no |
| 18:04.16 | Dagmar | Go as the people running your "private server" |
| 18:04.22 | Dagmar | s/as/ask/; |
| 18:04.24 | kopoba | non-o? |
| 18:04.29 | kopoba | what it means? |
| 18:04.35 | Dagmar | It means they're forbidden. |
| 18:04.42 | TC-Work | is feeling trolled |
| 18:04.43 | kopoba | and? |
| 18:04.49 | Dagmar | ...and GTFO. |
| 18:04.56 | kopoba | gathere also forbidden? |
| 18:04.56 | Kraps_w | fisker is that you |
| 18:05.07 | kopoba | no im not fisker |
| 18:05.14 | Kraps_w | damn |
| 18:05.22 | TC-Work | unless he is spoofing, Fisker is not in RU |
| 18:05.22 | Kraps_w | are you john |
| 18:05.34 | Mr_Rabies | it would be pretty impressive for fisker to use a russian proxy to connect to irc to troll |
| 18:05.49 | Mr_Rabies | i could see it happening, though |
| 18:05.59 | Kraps_w | are you mike |
| 18:06.10 | Kraps_w | are you jim |
| 18:06.25 | Kraps_w | whos your favorite pony |
| 18:08.14 | kopoba | all of you nevere you "pirate" soft? |
| 18:08.18 | Mr_Rabies | the best pony is pony stark |
| 18:08.20 | kopoba | *use |
| 18:08.32 | Kraps_w | not wow |
| 18:08.58 | kopoba | why wow is better then othere things? |
| 18:09.06 | Lopeppeppy | kopoba, pick a different topic, or I'll wake up an admin. It's not up for discussion, and the rest of you guys know better too. |
| 18:09.29 | Mr_Rabies | discussing anything to do with private servers is against channel rules |
| 18:09.34 | kopoba | Lopeppeppy ofc you can im dont mind |
| 18:09.57 | kopoba | we talking about private servers? |
| 18:10.01 | Kraps_w | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:10.01 | Mr_Rabies | there probably are plenty of places you could ask this question, but i have no clue where they are, irc is a big place |
| 18:10.06 | Kraps_w | we are not |
| 18:10.09 | Arrowmaster | kopoba: ill make this simple, due to this being an irc channel of an official fan site we are required to keep any private server discussions out of the channel |
| 18:10.16 | kopoba | i was thinkg that i just ask about pirate soft |
| 18:10.27 | Dagmar | kban time |
| 18:10.32 | Dagmar | I don't think he's getting the hint. |
| 18:10.33 | Kraps_w | its not working |
| 18:10.42 | sylvanaar_work | +b |
| 18:10.47 | Kraps_w | close the blast shield |
| 18:12.54 | sylvanaar_work | RED ALERT! |
| 18:13.01 | TC-Work | well, Shadowed was itching to do it |
| 18:13.22 | TC-Work | but Shirik allways bitches when he doesnt get a chance to do it |
| 18:13.28 | TC-Work | always* |
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| 18:16.40 | Kraps_w | sounds like this channel needs a 2 minutes hate |
| 18:17.15 | Shadowed | what |
| 18:17.20 | Shadowed | I heard ban |
| 18:17.27 | TC-Work | you did indeed |
| 18:17.28 | Dagmar | Ban the rooskie |
| 18:17.40 | TC-Work | but man are you late |
| 18:17.41 | Kraps_w | racist????? |
| 18:17.57 | Dagmar | Since when is russia a race? |
| 18:18.07 | Shadowed | I have work and things to do |
| 18:18.23 | TC-Work | so does Cairenn, but she manages to do it |
| 18:18.41 | Shadowed | yea but she's magical |
| 18:18.42 | Shadowed | I am not |
| 18:18.44 | Lopeppeppy | I wouldn't tempt someone winding up the ban stick. Just sayin'. |
| 18:19.04 | TC-Work | shameful, she must be turning in her/plane/car/train seat. |
| 18:19.16 | Unkle | Bring down ….THE BANHAMMER! |
| 18:20.11 | foxlit | look at you all crowing for a ban. |
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| 18:20.20 | Kraps_w | Shadowed sux, get a new mod |
| 18:20.38 | kopoba | ror |
| 18:20.40 | cogwheel | hands foxlit a pitch fork |
| 18:20.40 | Unkle | foxlit: It's like blood in the water for sharks. |
| 18:20.44 | TC-Work | we have more, but they suck harder |
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| 18:21.15 | foxlit | Unkle: I was thinking something more along the liens of Lord of the Flies. |
| 18:21.38 | Unkle | So, who gets to be the minister's creepy daughter? |
| 18:21.52 | foxlit | well, you already have a creepy nick? |
| 18:21.55 | cogwheel | sounds like you just volunteered |
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| 18:26.16 | Gnarfoz | <Thunder_Child> bluspacecow: you should be telling that to Gnarfoz, he was the one asking. <-- I was asking what? ;o_o; |
| 18:26.42 | mckenziemc | what is the meaning of Fisker |
| 18:27.26 | Kraps_w | The End of All Things |
| 18:30.09 | TC-Work | Gnarfoz: about forcing a repair |
| 18:30.20 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: I see your https://apps.db.ripe.net/whois/lookup/ripe/inet6num/2a01:4f8:d12:1104::/64.html and raise you https://apps.db.ripe.net/whois/lookup/ripe/inet6num/2a01:4f8:100:12a9::/64.html |
| 18:30.45 | mckenziemc | Fisker's dead |
| 18:30.46 | Gnarfoz | TC-Work: I scrolled that-away but saw nothing about forcing a repair? :| did it fall into my 24 h disconnect window? |
| 18:31.48 | TC-Work | Gnarfoz: "<bluspacecow> @Thunder_Child Ladik's MPQ editor has a verify files option. You could open all the MPQ files in mIxed mode then run that maybe" |
| 18:31.56 | Gnarfoz | huh |
| 18:32.24 | Gnarfoz | how has Ladik's MPQ editor anything to do with forcing the bnet launcher to do notice I deleted the 64 bit client? :\ |
| 18:32.48 | TC-Work | oh...i dont think it handles user stupidity :p |
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| 18:33.05 | Gnarfoz | it was entirely premeditated |
| 18:33.14 | Gnarfoz | since the 64 bit client does just one thing: crash on startup ^^ |
| 18:33.20 | TC-Work | even worse, premeditated stupidity |
| 18:33.26 | ShaunDreclin | Not exactly the right place to ask but you guys are generally smart; what's a good vent host? Looking for somewhere with a fair price and good audio quality~ |
| 18:34.28 | Gnarfoz | not to be twisting your question around, but if you want both at the same time, you're not looking for Ventrilo ^^ |
| 18:34.43 | Kraps_w | oh sick burn |
| 18:34.53 | ShaunDreclin | Hahah |
| 18:35.05 | ShaunDreclin | Yeah I'm rather fond of mumble, but you can't really pug with mumble |
| 18:35.09 | TC-Work | does it have to be vent? you could try mumble |
| 18:35.15 | TC-Work | nvm me then |
| 18:35.16 | Gnarfoz | actually, just a friendly recommendation; unless they've improved it recently, both TS3 and Mumble (the latter one being FOSS) are superior |
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| 18:35.40 | TC-Work | he has a point though, 70% of wow players use vent |
| 18:35.45 | Gnarfoz | erm yeah |
| 18:35.46 | Gnarfoz | not |
| 18:35.47 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 18:35.55 | ShaunDreclin | I suppose for pugs I could just invade a free server, I prefer mumble |
| 18:36.01 | TC-Work | try that in english Gnarfoz |
| 18:36.10 | Gnarfoz | try what in english |
| 18:36.15 | Gnarfoz | you're just making up numbers |
| 18:36.23 | Arrowmaster | well in the early days of wow, TS2 was horrible |
| 18:36.32 | Arrowmaster | and mumble didnt exist |
| 18:36.34 | TC-Work | oh, true...but i'm not far wrong |
| 18:36.53 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: i think mumble did exist then....let me look |
| 18:36.55 | Gnarfoz | TS2 never improved one bit, they didn't even bother to make a "final" release in all those years |
| 18:37.27 | TC-Work | when did wow start? |
| 18:37.33 | Gnarfoz | 2004-11 |
| 18:37.34 | ShaunDreclin | 2005-ish? |
| 18:37.37 | ShaunDreclin | aha |
| 18:37.39 | TC-Work | Registered |
| 18:37.39 | TC-Work | 2005-08-31 |
| 18:37.42 | Gnarfoz | 2004-11-24 to be precise |
| 18:37.49 | TC-Work | thats when mumble started |
| 18:37.57 | TC-Work | ok, so a year later |
| 18:38.11 | Gnarfoz | let's all go back to battlecom |
| 18:38.12 | Gnarfoz | or Roger Wilco |
| 18:38.13 | Arrowmaster | it probably wasnt very good back then |
| 18:38.18 | Gnarfoz | D: |
| 18:38.26 | TC-Work | yes, and there was no one hosting it either |
| 18:38.28 | Arrowmaster | used to use roger wilco with tfc and cs |
| 18:38.37 | Arrowmaster | in the 90s |
| 18:39.09 | Gnarfoz | I'm just glad TS did The Right Thing(tm) and offers free licenses for non-commercial use |
| 18:39.49 | Gnarfoz | it's still not OSS, so, bad for idealists, but at least it's not Ventrilo's "more than 8 slots? find a commercial hoster" insanity |
| 18:40.03 | Kraps_w | cut out the middleman and use wows voicechat |
| 18:40.07 | Gnarfoz | urgh |
| 18:40.10 | Gnarfoz | that's worse than ts2 |
| 18:40.12 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 18:40.34 | Gnarfoz | blizzard should license the ts3 sdk ;) or integrate mumble somehow |
| 18:40.45 | TC-Work | no |
| 18:40.55 | Gnarfoz | doubt it'd get much more use than the current thing, but at least it'd be technically superior by quite a big margin ^^ |
| 18:40.55 | TC-Work | i do not want to listen to random ass people in wow |
| 18:41.12 | Gnarfoz | well, you could now, but you have it turned off ;) |
| 18:41.21 | Kraps_w | i was on moonsomething once |
| 18:41.31 | Kraps_w | no |
| 18:41.40 | Kraps_w | one of the rp servers |
| 18:42.06 | Kraps_w | there was a channel where a girl was singing |
| 18:42.11 | Kraps_w | it was nice |
| 18:42.18 | Gnarfoz | the integrated one has channels now? |
| 18:42.42 | Fisker | umad Gnarfoz ? |
| 18:42.51 | Kraps_w | i think so |
| 18:42.52 | Gnarfoz | youlate Fisker? |
| 18:42.57 | Kraps_w | it was a while ago |
| 18:43.22 | Fisker | well Gnarfoz |
| 18:43.26 | Gnarfoz | unwell, Fisker |
| 18:43.36 | Fisker | i was unable to decipher your fallacious logical construct quickly |
| 18:44.00 | Fisker | you can't raise with an amount equal or less to the amount you're raising against |
| 18:44.09 | Kraps_w | your AI must be faulty |
| 18:44.58 | Gnarfoz | mine's older, so it has a larger age => mine > yours! obvious, right |
| 18:45.38 | Fisker | but this is poker not like a car trading card game |
| 18:46.11 | Gnarfoz | this is sparta, not poker |
| 18:46.18 | Gnarfoz | you're really not paying attention |
| 18:46.23 | Fisker | oh in that case |
| 18:46.28 | Fisker | kicks Gnarfoz down a bottomless well |
| 18:46.57 | Gnarfoz | 's skill in flying has improved by 3 |
| 18:47.11 | Gnarfoz | 's skill in flying has improved by 2 |
| 18:47.22 | Gnarfoz | 's skill in flying has improved by 4 |
| 18:47.26 | Gnarfoz | still flying |
| 18:47.36 | Gnarfoz | this is awesome |
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| 18:47.44 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Seerah] by ChanServ |
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| 18:47.57 | Kraps_w | is it truly bottomless |
| 18:47.58 | mckenziemc | reverses Gnarfoz's gravity. |
| 18:49.00 | karl_w_w | cmon i keep winning i need some competition on isketch :P |
| 18:49.34 | Kraps_w | what if you threw an immovable object and an unstoppable force down a bottomless well at the speed of light |
| 18:51.00 | Lopeppeppy | It would still be dark at the bottom, Kraps. |
| 18:51.15 | TC-Work | karl_w_w: it uses shockwave.... |
| 18:51.20 | TC-Work | the. fuck. |
| 18:51.21 | karl_w_w | yes, yes it does |
| 18:51.28 | karl_w_w | i know it's like looking into the 90s |
| 18:52.35 | Fisker | oh man Stanzilla |
| 18:52.40 | Fisker | i think i found my new cooler |
| 18:52.42 | Stanzilla | sup fisker |
| 18:52.45 | Stanzilla | link |
| 18:52.57 | Fisker | http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=3077 |
| 18:53.17 | TC-Work | meh |
| 18:53.26 | Arrowmaster | get an all copper one |
| 18:53.26 | Stanzilla | I'll buy a Corsair H100 |
| 18:53.42 | Fisker | nou Arrowmaster |
| 18:53.44 | TC-Work | the liquid one? |
| 18:53.45 | Fisker | and meh Stanzilla |
| 18:53.50 | Stanzilla | why meh |
| 18:54.37 | Fisker | because liquid cooling |
| 18:54.37 | Fisker | pls |
| 18:54.43 | Fisker | air for life |
| 18:55.03 | Stanzilla | why |
| 18:55.23 | Fisker | for life Stanzilla |
| 18:55.48 | Arrowmaster | water is overrated |
| 18:56.09 | Arrowmaster | if i was going to use something other than air i would probably go with a phase exchange system |
| 18:56.23 | TC-Work | those are serious power hogs |
| 18:57.12 | Gnarfoz | and also massively overkill these days |
| 18:57.19 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: my h60 is lovely |
| 18:58.08 | Arrowmaster | i was going to watercool the system i built in 03, i had everything for it but i never got around to doing it |
| 18:58.18 | TC-Work | if i really wanted to have fun i would go with http://www.pugetsystems.com/submerged.php |
| 18:58.24 | Lopeppeppy | I am an odd geek, I get sad when sports figures die. |
| 18:58.33 | TC-Work | though it's not quite large enough |
| 18:58.43 | Fisker | pebble just hit 8 million :( |
| 18:58.51 | Fisker | man amazon must be rubbing their hands |
| 18:58.57 | Fisker | not that they don't earn more every day |
| 18:58.58 | Fisker | but still |
| 18:59.11 | Arrowmaster | is that the bluetooth watch thingy? |
| 18:59.47 | Lopeppeppy | I think so, Arrowmaster |
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| 19:00.33 | Fisker | yep Arrowmaster |
| 19:00.35 | Fisker | umad? |
| 19:02.03 | karl_w_w | http://www.lamebook.com/phodoh/ |
| 19:04.07 | foxlit | gr, Calibri. |
| 19:04.40 | Fisker | what have the font done to you foxlit ? |
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| 19:04.57 | foxlit | the bold version has slightly different height to the non-bold version. |
| 19:07.22 | Adys | Arrowmaster: you good at recovering filesystems? |
| 19:08.29 | Unkle | SO COOL - http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/galex/galex20120502.html |
| 19:09.39 | foxlit | <3 vertical-align: text-bottom |
| 19:11.47 | Adys | ~Unkle++ |
| 19:11.54 | TC-Work | ^ |
| 19:12.42 | Fisker | nom nom nom |
| 19:12.56 | Fisker | we need to treat black holes as cats now obviously |
| 19:13.52 | Unkle | The universe is full of wonders, and we live in an age of discovery. |
| 19:16.17 | Arrowmaster | Adys: no |
| 19:16.26 | Adys | Arrowmaster: well, fsck /dev/sdb1 then |
| 19:16.27 | Adys | and solved! |
| 19:16.42 | karl_w_w | i cant believe they're forcing us to use timeline |
| 19:16.59 | Lopeppeppy | Tsk tsk. |
| 19:17.25 | Adys | karl_w_w: rise in protest, go on google+ |
| 19:17.42 | karl_w_w | hah |
| 19:17.50 | kopoba | clap you hands |
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| 19:33.39 | alestane | Cleaning kidneys is a royal pain. |
| 19:34.14 | karl_w_w | pretty sure ur meant to let them clean themselves |
| 19:34.31 | Unkle | not if you want to make a pie! |
| 19:34.47 | karl_w_w | pie? |
| 19:35.00 | alestane | Steak & kidney pie. |
| 19:35.05 | karl_w_w | if kidneys were meant to be food they wouldn't taste so fucking horrible |
| 19:36.14 | Unkle | Everything is food at some point. |
| 19:36.23 | Lopeppeppy | alestane. Sweetheart. Snookums. Love. |
| 19:36.31 | Lopeppeppy | Just eat the steak, okay? *laugh* |
| 19:36.59 | alestane | Kat decided to bring home this passle of lamb's kidneys from the CSA. |
| 19:37.11 | alestane | So we get to do SOMETHING with them. |
| 19:37.28 | Shirik | throw them out? |
| 19:37.51 | alestane | If they turn out to be something I can't eat (and they do smell a bit like an outhouse), I'll leave it up to her. |
| 19:37.59 | Lopeppeppy | Kat, Kat, Kat! |
| 19:38.11 | Lopeppeppy | Kidneys are hard to cook. I wish you bestest luck at making them edible. |
| 19:38.28 | alestane | They are simmering with onions and stew beff right now. |
| 19:38.35 | alestane | For about the next hour and a half. |
| 19:38.47 | Lopeppeppy | I love heart and tongue and gizzard, so it's not that I'm against the idea of kidney. I just know that they never urn out as well as the British would have us *believe* they do. |
| 19:39.02 | Lopeppeppy | Or is that just propaganda to get us to eat contaminated meat? Hmmmmmm?!? |
| 19:39.10 | Lopeppeppy | eyes jnwhiteh with great suspicion. |
| 19:39.13 | alestane | Those heart kabobs marintaed with garlic were lovely. |
| 19:39.16 | jnwhiteh | whyzzat? |
| 19:39.34 | alestane | Guilt by association, jnwhiteh. You're living in England. |
| 19:39.38 | jnwhiteh | kk |
| 19:39.39 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 19:40.11 | alestane | The beef liver actually made very good chili. |
| 19:41.10 | Lopeppeppy | Liver is awesome stuff in small quantities. |
| 19:41.54 | alestane | If this business turns out to be too nasty, I daresay she won't get them again. |
| 19:42.14 | Lopeppeppy | You're making me crave chicken hearts for dinner, and I'm totally committed to emptying out the leftovers for tonight. Damn you, Khan! |
| 19:42.18 | alestane | But as the CSA shows up with a bargain organ bin, we're giving things a try. |
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| 19:43.22 | Lopeppeppy | Tell her to grab a juicy heart next time! Big old cow tongue! |
| 19:43.31 | alestane | We've gotten both of those things. |
| 19:43.39 | alestane | Beef and pork liver. |
| 19:44.14 | alestane | And one or two other things, I think. |
| 19:45.22 | alestane | But good gods, extracting the renal ducts is a stupid amount of work. |
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| 19:59.56 | Lopeppeppy | ... that phrase should never be uttered in a culinary manner. |
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| 20:02.44 | kd3 | whee, one more final and I'm done with school for a while |
| 20:06.24 | alestane | I don't want to eat them, Peppy, that why they have to be removed. |
| 20:08.44 | arton | [: |
| 20:09.55 | Lopeppeppy | That's why I told you to remove the entire kidney from the pan, silly monkey! *laugh* |
| 20:10.06 | Lopeppeppy | teases alestane unmercilessly. Bad Peppy. |
| 20:10.49 | alestane | Bad in that good sort of way, usually. |
| 20:11.08 | alestane | But yes, now you might need a spanking. |
| 20:11.46 | Lopeppeppy | Ooooooh! Is that all it takes? |
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| 20:37.24 | kd3 | pokes the world server... |
| 20:38.14 | Maldivia | hands kd3 some jumper cables |
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| 20:40.58 | alestane | http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/04/27-1/life-sized-macross-valkyrie-unveiled-in-tokyo |
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| 20:44.48 | Arrowmaster | VF-25F not bad |
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| 21:08.34 | TC-Work | ~ping |
| 21:08.34 | purl | ~pong |
| 21:08.38 | TC-Work | ~pong |
| 21:08.39 | purl | ~ping |
| 21:10.00 | karl_w_w | no TC-Work |
| 21:10.07 | TC-Work | no what? |
| 21:11.21 | karl_w_w | just no |
| 21:11.30 | TC-Work | ok |
| 21:12.34 | karl_w_w | ohhhh myyyy goddddd |
| 21:12.43 | karl_w_w | i love a bit of drama |
| 21:13.10 | TC-Work | i dont |
| 21:13.10 | karl_w_w | So now that I've told everyone I wanted to tell personally, time to be more public about it. I found out I'm pregnant. Though sudden as this news may be, considering the father and I haven't been together very long, I can assure you, we are both very, very happy and sincere with the news. |
| 21:13.10 | TC-Work | drama sucks. |
| 21:13.10 | karl_w_w | facebook |
| 21:13.54 | karl_w_w | chances that the current guy is the father: not great at all |
| 21:14.15 | TC-Work | chances that i care, even less |
| 21:15.05 | karl_w_w | i love how nobody is saying it in the comments xD |
| 21:15.21 | karl_w_w | but are still all "what month are you due?" |
| 21:18.42 | Unkle | karl_w_w: It is still socially awkward for people who know better to admidt that someone probably isn't the fater. We're supposed to be happy about babies. Even when there is something underhanded about their conception. |
| 21:18.58 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 21:19.22 | karl_w_w | it's still glorius |
| 21:19.31 | karl_w_w | I'm sure I was a woman in a previous life |
| 21:20.13 | Unkle | My mom tells the story of a guy at the AFB hospital where I was born about an airman complaining to the delivery/certifying doctor that the child being given his name couldn't be his, because he hadn't seen his wife in almost 2 years. |
| 21:21.00 | Unkle | And the doc saying, "Son, I don't care. That kid isn't leaving here without her husband's name on the birth ciertificate." |
| 21:21.36 | karl_w_w | cats: http://chzschooloffail.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/homework-class-test-thats-enough-proof-for-me.jpg |
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| 21:30.17 | mikma_ | haste: http://www.geekologie.com/2012/05/the-incredibly-uncanny-x-men-hands-down.php |
| 21:33.59 | alestane | karl_w_w, that was stated in the Cartoon Laws of Physics. |
| 21:34.17 | alestane | One of the laws is, "Any rearrangement of feline matter is impermanent." |
| 21:34.32 | alestane | And it has a corollary, "A cat will conform to the shape of its container." |
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| 22:09.16 | Adys | karl_w_w: congratulation on your baby |
| 22:09.49 | Adys | purl: karl_w_w is pregnant |
| 22:09.49 | purl | Adys: okay |
| 22:09.54 | Adys | share the good word |
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| 22:13.02 | karl_w_w | thanks Adys |
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| 23:05.36 | TC-Work | for a website that started out selling nothing but books, i do not think it is unresonable for amazon to list all of the books in a series when looking at any one book in that series. |
| 23:05.54 | TC-Work | unreasonable* |
| 23:08.25 | Kraps | CoD:BLOPS 2 |
| 23:08.27 | Kraps | now with a slight sci-fi bent |
| 23:13.10 | karl_w_w | TC-Work: it wouldn't always be clear what books should be listed |
| 23:13.24 | karl_w_w | besides, I would never trust the list if there was one, I' |
| 23:13.30 | karl_w_w | d want to find out myself |
| 23:14.25 | TC-Work | karl_w_w: what do you mean 'what books should be listed'? |
| 23:15.17 | Arrowmaster | what would you have them do with the discworld series |
| 23:15.32 | TC-Work | list them all by date |
| 23:15.33 | karl_w_w | that was the first one that came to my mind |
| 23:15.41 | TC-Work | i know, i own most of them |
| 23:15.47 | karl_w_w | yes TC-Work, but what is "them"? |
| 23:16.25 | TC-Work | every book in the discworld series. They are labled as (A discworld novel) or some such |
| 23:17.07 | Arrowmaster | and it would be a favor to the world not to list brian herberts crap next to a piece of literary legend |
| 23:18.53 | karl_w_w | http://www.moillusions.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Warping-Road-Optical-Illusion.jpg that is freaky |
| 23:24.57 | kd3 | heh; at least the rollbacks for the world server crashing means I'm not logging in dead every time the server recovers |
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| 23:49.50 | TC-Work | http://googledevelopers.blogspot.com/2012/05/spdy-performance-on-mobile-networks.html |
| 23:54.52 | Arrowmaster | wait, firefox supports spdy? |
| 23:55.40 | Corrodias2 | i believe i read that it does as of 12 or 13 |
| 23:55.46 | Corrodias2 | not that i know what it is |
| 23:56.34 | Arrowmaster | ah im still back on 10 |
