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| 00:09.03 | Unkle | I'm not saying you shouldn't enjoy it, I just feel let down. :/ |
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| 00:19.22 | TC-Work | feels the same to me, but then i mostly enjoy it for see what nifty persons thing they are going to come up with nexty |
| 00:21.03 | TC-Work | s/for/to/ |
| 00:22.35 | Unkle | Also, the show has redheads. <3 redheads. |
| 00:27.51 | kd3 | okay, the first pass on all 78 level 86-87 Valley of the Four Winds quests is done - http://www.wowpedia.org/Valley_of_the_Four_Winds_storyline |
| 00:30.14 | TC-Work | Unkle: i have to admin, i do not understand the fascination with readheads. |
| 00:31.13 | Unkle | I like green eyes, pale skin and fiery hair. I'm wired that way - I assume because of my long line of scottish and irish heritage. |
| 00:31.58 | Unkle | Though that doesn't explain why I like blondes, brunettes, or other sorts of women. :P |
| 00:32.01 | foxlit | kd3: it'd be nice to have some way of linking previous/next quest progression segments on the individual quest pages |
| 00:32.26 | foxlit | sort of like "requires X, Y, Z chains to be completed; makes A, B, C chains available." |
| 00:32.34 | kd3 | hm |
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| 00:45.57 | TC-Work | Unkle: because you have manballs |
| 00:46.15 | Unkle | Indeed. |
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| 01:37.07 | starlon | deadly sorrows bursting with joy |
| 01:37.17 | starlon | happy head bangs. |
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| 01:52.50 | kd3 | ! http://i44.tinypic.com/ofqdeh.gif |
| 01:53.42 | Kaylin | what on earth |
| 01:54.00 | Unkle | He's Superman, and he's FABULOUS! |
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| 02:33.38 | TC-Work | "I used to read the Bible and believe that Man was only 5,000 years old. Then I discovered Tupac. I no longer read the bible and now believe that man is only 3,000 year old............." |
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| 03:24.20 | Ackis | anyone able to look at this macro for me: http://www.wowace.com/paste/5133/ it was working until I reloaded my UI |
| 03:26.44 | TC-Work | what is LivestockComboButton? |
| 03:27.07 | Unkle | It's the button that executes Livestock's mount picking. |
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| 03:27.33 | Ackis | it was in a pre-defined macro for me |
| 03:29.10 | Unkle | Ackis - nothing looks wrong with it, though sometimes macros get corrupted. Delete it and recreate it. |
| 03:32.12 | Unkle | And on that note, goodnight, godspeed and good luck. |
| 04:01.24 | TC-Work | kd3: remind me 2 weeks from today to watch nasa tv, thanks. |
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| 04:10.06 | Arrowmaster | best episode of castle ever |
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| 04:46.29 | Adys | kd3: fun: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/sd002/iama_zeddie_little_ridiculously_photogenic_guy/ |
| 04:46.54 | Adys | love these AMAs where the first 8 posts are by the op or not questions! |
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| 05:07.31 | Adys | Arrowmaster: how do you only read input from a timestamp to a timestamp in ffmpeg when converting a video? |
| 05:07.49 | Arrowmaster | no clue, never used ffmpeg |
| 05:09.04 | Adys | -ss -t |
| 05:09.07 | Adys | neat |
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| 05:20.47 | Fisker | just gonna punch you in the face Arrowmaster |
| 05:24.14 | mckenziemc | cool story Fisker, tell it again |
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| 05:56.51 | Adys | kd3: ping |
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| 06:34.01 | Adys | Good old "putting the fires out" quests |
| 06:34.06 | Adys | where the well and lake are on fire |
| 06:34.42 | Thunder_Child | yes, that sounds legit |
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| 07:12.56 | Fisker | so haste |
| 07:13.00 | Fisker | either someone is fucking dumb |
| 07:13.06 | Fisker | or someone is trolling |
| 07:13.15 | Fisker | oh |
| 07:13.20 | Fisker | turns out to be dumb :( |
| 07:19.04 | zenzio | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/north_south_korea |
| 07:19.38 | starlon | zenzio's a spy |
| 07:19.54 | starlon | stealing the western secrets for home country |
| 07:23.10 | Fisker | i saw what he did there zenzio |
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| 08:09.59 | starlon | An up for my next trick, a spare of saydes. |
| 08:11.52 | zenzio | arnoldipsum.com is awesome... I'm definitely going to start using that |
| 08:12.25 | starlon | do you get free credit? |
| 08:12.43 | starlon | surely you get a coupon |
| 08:15.59 | starlon | draws demonic symbols all over the walls. |
| 08:16.26 | Corrodias | i must be reading this wrong... |
| 08:16.45 | starlon | reads it wrong. |
| 08:17.20 | starlon | :> |
| 08:17.56 | Corrodias | i could swear newegg was advertising diablo 3 for $90 |
| 08:18.09 | Corrodias | but it isn't, so i was reading it wrong, i guess. |
| 08:18.12 | starlon | just a glitch |
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| 08:37.21 | bluspacecow | fiskery fisker |
| 08:37.35 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 08:37.45 | bluspacecow | hai2u |
| 08:37.56 | Fisker | not even a hai |
| 08:38.06 | bluspacecow | i did i did |
| 08:38.56 | Fisker | aww man |
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| 08:48.47 | mckenziemc | die Fikser |
| 08:52.12 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:52.13 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4427669158 |
| 08:58.39 | AcidWeb | interesting but i doubt that blizzard would spend resources for that |
| 08:58.48 | karl_w_w | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/legos |
| 08:58.49 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 08:58.55 | karl_w_w | lego had instructions? |
| 08:58.56 | bluspacecow | can't seem to log on beta |
| 09:02.22 | Shirik | has returned! |
| 09:03.04 | bluspacecow | YAY |
| 09:03.09 | bluspacecow | *throws a party* |
| 09:19.09 | Fisker | he's right bluspacecow |
| 09:19.13 | Fisker | IP's are easy to spoof |
| 09:19.17 | Fisker | he just forgot one fucking thing |
| 09:19.32 | bluspacecow | as well as mac addresses i do believe |
| 09:19.57 | Fisker | how is he going to receive replies to the packets when he doesn't have said IP :3 |
| 09:28.15 | mckenziemc | poisons Fisker's tables. |
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| 09:35.15 | Shirik | why are people so awful |
| 09:35.30 | Shirik | just responded to 3 rules questions on the wow TCG after a judge already answered them wrong :( |
| 09:35.32 | bluspacecow | i not aweful |
| 09:35.44 | bluspacecow | i throwing u a pardy :) |
| 09:35.49 | Shirik | bluspacecow go kill this guy please http://forums.wowtcg.com/showthread.php?t=17617 |
| 09:35.51 | Shirik | also ty :) |
| 09:36.10 | mckenziemc | how do you know it wasn't you who's wrong? |
| 09:36.23 | Shirik | because I know what I'm doing and the guy's an idiot |
| 09:37.20 | bluspacecow | also shirik!party |
| 09:39.10 | mckenziemc | well D3 beta launcher's been sitting here for 3 hours at Updating setup files... : / |
| 09:39.21 | mckenziemc | guess i'll leave it and go to sleep soon >.> |
| 09:39.35 | Shirik | I really should be going to sleep |
| 09:39.41 | bluspacecow | check the permissions on the battle.net folder |
| 09:39.43 | mckenziemc | come with me |
| 09:39.52 | bluspacecow | also flush your toliet |
| 09:39.55 | bluspacecow | >_> |
| 09:39.58 | Fisker | your mom is a battle.net folder bluspacecow |
| 09:39.59 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 09:40.00 | bluspacecow | i mean DNS cache |
| 09:40.03 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 09:40.15 | mckenziemc | it's downloading |
| 09:43.07 | karl_w_w | it wont ever move mckenziemc |
| 09:43.09 | karl_w_w | fix it |
| 10:30.23 | bluspacecow | work tiems |
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| 11:00.56 | dusf_ | when an addon like gladius is in a file with 'nolib', is what it needs LibSharedMedia? |
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| 11:07.18 | dusf_ | anyone? |
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| 11:32.07 | airtonix | hey Fisker, you kinda mad? |
| 11:37.53 | starlon | When push comes to shove... Pull out the whiskey. |
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| 12:37.01 | starlon | it's about that time when someone flies through the room naked :\ *shades* |
| 12:37.01 | starlon | Is WoW dead yet? |
| 12:37.02 | starlon | I haven't kept up. |
| 12:37.02 | airtonix | umad? |
| 12:37.02 | starlon | especially |
| 12:37.02 | airtonix | specially what? |
| 12:37.02 | starlon | very mad especially |
| 12:37.10 | airtonix | exceedingly? |
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| 12:37.14 | Cide | hi Shirik |
| 12:37.17 | Cide | did you win |
| 12:37.23 | airtonix | the internets? |
| 12:39.25 | starlon | interweb histories alert. forgot the cookie grobber! |
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| 12:41.20 | zenzio | well hey there ppepy |
| 12:41.23 | zenzio | ... peppy |
| 12:41.33 | zenzio | my fingers so do not function today. Coding is hard that way |
| 12:42.07 | Kalroth | i nkew ectxaly hwo yuo fele |
| 12:42.17 | zenzio | :) |
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| 12:45.00 | mitch0 | you made a typo there |
| 12:46.50 | Cide | yes; who* |
| 12:52.14 | zenzio | lies |
| 12:52.18 | zenzio | he has no idea who I feel |
| 12:54.21 | bluworkcow | oh hai2u Peppy weppy |
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| 13:07.15 | bleeter | WHOA Prince Of Persia hits Github https://github.com/jmechner/Prince-of-Persia-Apple-II |
| 13:13.43 | alestane | Is there something that stops me from allocating a new object in the arguments of a member initializer in C++? |
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| 13:14.35 | Cide | I can't say if it's a good idea or not |
| 13:14.42 | Cide | but the compiler won't complain |
| 13:14.55 | Lopeppeppy | Grumble mutter growl broken interwebs again. |
| 13:15.24 | Cide | you mean something like Foo::Foo(...) : m_ptr(new Ptr(5)) { } right? |
| 13:15.31 | alestane | Because it's telling me it can't resolve the type name passed to new. |
| 13:15.46 | Cide | did you include the header file? |
| 13:15.55 | alestane | And in that case it's saying 'typename "Ptr" can't be resolved' |
| 13:16.13 | alestane | In the .h file that this .cpp file includes, I did. |
| 13:16.36 | alestane | And it's used elsewhere in the file without a problem. |
| 13:16.49 | Cide | can you paste the code? |
| 13:17.13 | Cide | .h and .cpp |
| 13:19.22 | alestane | .h: http://pastebin.com/cH9L347R |
| 13:19.50 | alestane | Errors are being thrown on line 41 of http://pastebin.com/30hJTxKg |
| 13:20.26 | alestane | Never mind, got it. |
| 13:20.56 | alestane | I was calling ConnectionManager(HostMediator&) with this as an argument, instead of *this. |
| 13:21.09 | Cide | ah ok :) |
| 13:21.11 | alestane | Which fubar'd the whole resolution chain. |
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| 13:21.58 | alestane | I could really wish I could have just done the whole assignment in Go. |
| 13:22.20 | alestane | But my partner doesn't know, the grader doesn't know it, and as far as I know, neither does the professor. |
| 13:22.54 | Cide | pretty sure you have a memory leak there btw |
| 13:23.11 | Cide | you pass in *new Foo() and treat it like a reference |
| 13:23.34 | Cide | and I don't see a delete &foo |
| 13:23.46 | Cide | but maybe it's not relevant |
| 13:23.51 | alestane | It's a potential leak...I wasn't originally reasoning that the object might have to create its member. |
| 13:24.01 | alestane | Well, the rest of that constructor isn't written yet. |
| 13:24.10 | Cide | yeah, just a potential catch |
| 13:24.23 | alestane | But I probably will need to account for that somewhere. |
| 13:24.29 | Cide | maybe std::unique_ptr would be better suited |
| 13:26.14 | alestane | I don't know the specifics of that class. I used a reference because it's a link to another object that remains fixed for the lifetime of the linking object. |
| 13:26.46 | Cide | having a std::unique_ptr means that you have ownership of the object |
| 13:27.05 | Cide | it cannot be copied so only one owner can exist |
| 13:27.21 | Cide | and when the unique_ptr is destructed it automatically deallocates the resource |
| 13:28.26 | alestane | Actually, that object will need to be deallocated, but I've just realized that that will happen somewhere else. This design has sort of metastasized, and there's no time to simplify it. |
| 13:28.46 | Cide | ah, gotcha |
| 13:28.58 | Cide | oh well, glad the issue got resolved! |
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| 13:30.18 | alestane | Oh, and boo for no constructor chaining in C++. |
| 13:32.12 | Cide | you will be able to in c++11 |
| 13:32.15 | Cide | see http://www.learncpp.com/cpp-tutorial/b-5-delegating-constructors/ |
| 13:32.37 | Cide | not sure if the compilers support ityet |
| 13:33.55 | alestane | Dunno. This was due yesterday, not experimenting right now. |
| 13:34.01 | Cide | hehe yeah |
| 13:34.08 | Cide | I was just saying it's going to be possible soon! |
| 13:34.23 | Cide | as will inheriting constructors be (yay) |
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| 13:37.38 | alestane | What does inheriting constructors imply in this context? |
| 13:37.55 | Shirik | Cide: Actually we had an absolute mess |
| 13:38.01 | Cide | Shirik: that sucks |
| 13:38.03 | Cide | what happened? |
| 13:38.30 | Cide | alestane: well say you have a base class Foo that has a constructor Foo(int foo) : m_foo(foo) { } |
| 13:38.35 | Shirik | Let's put it this way: less than 24 hours after the event there was a 12-page post on the forums. That's when I got on the airplane. When I arrived in Huston 3 hours later, it was a 25 page post. |
| 13:38.35 | Cide | and then you inherit from that class |
| 13:38.52 | Cide | if you just want to say "ok, I want Bar to have the same constructors as Foo" you can't currently |
| 13:39.02 | Cide | you have to specify them all manually and forward them to Foo |
| 13:39.23 | Cide | in C++11 you can just say "I want Bar to have Foo's constructors" |
| 13:39.33 | Cide | or specify which constructors you want it to have |
| 13:39.48 | Cide | nice, Shirik |
| 13:40.05 | Cide | before C++11 you had to implement Bar(int foo) : Foo(foo) { } |
| 13:40.27 | Cide | in C++11 you can do "using Foo::Foo(int);" (I think that's the syntax) |
| 13:40.54 | alestane | So, in cases where you have no additional initialization to do. |
| 13:40.59 | Cide | yes |
| 13:41.55 | Shirik | Cide: We had a disqualification. In the semifinals of a 200 player tournament. And to put it lightly, it is extremely difficult to get a disqualification. |
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| 13:42.24 | Cide | so the 25 page post was just about a single player(?) getting disqualified? |
| 13:42.33 | Shirik | yes |
| 13:42.36 | Cide | nice |
| 13:42.38 | Cide | sounds controversial |
| 13:42.47 | alestane | I presume they did something really inexcusable. |
| 13:42.55 | Cide | would it be 25 pages if so? |
| 13:43.17 | Cide | must have been quite delicate in any case |
| 13:43.19 | alestane | Very possibly; this is the Internet we're talking about. |
| 13:43.23 | Cide | haha, true |
| 13:43.43 | alestane | Okay, inexplicable compiler error...came back a couple minutes later to the window and it was gone. |
| 13:43.48 | alestane | With no changes to the code. |
| 13:43.52 | Shirik | There's two penalties in question. There's one for "Slow Play" which is a warning (upgradable, but starts at a warning). This occurs when a player is playing too slowly unintentionally and eating up the clock. We issue the warning to keep the tournament on time and ensure the other player gets enough time. |
| 13:43.57 | alestane | /rodserling |
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| 13:44.23 | Shirik | The other one is "Stalling" which is a cheating infraction. This occurs when the player is playing slowly intentionally to abuse the end-of-match procedures. All cheating infractions are a disqualification without prize. |
| 13:44.45 | alestane | But of course, the distinction is subjective. |
| 13:45.00 | Shirik | The HJ initially gave out a slow play warning and then later gave out a stalling DQ, at which point things exploded. |
| 13:45.01 | Cide | presumably 25 pages worth of subjective |
| 13:45.31 | Lopeppeppy | Hey. A warning came first, it seems fair to me. |
| 13:46.13 | Shirik | actually the two penalties are totally unrelated to each other, you can get stalling without any warning - the judge just has to be convinced that you are doing it intentionally to eat up the clock and gain an advantage |
| 13:46.38 | Shirik | the really interesting part is I don't think this penalty has ever given out |
| 13:46.52 | Shirik | slow play is given out all the time. stalling I've never seen given out. |
| 13:47.07 | Shirik | or any cheating infraction for that matter |
| 13:48.52 | Shirik | But people will get over it in a week or so |
| 13:49.25 | Cide | yeah |
| 13:49.30 | Cide | I hope you're raiding tonight! |
| 13:49.43 | Cide | dannie is taking a break so we're down to 10 currently |
| 13:49.53 | Shirik | I am |
| 13:50.00 | Cide | cool |
| 13:54.06 | Shirik | Also this one guy posted on the rules forums trying to answer questions and gave out 3 rulings incorrectly, so I corrected them |
| 13:54.16 | Shirik | http://forums.wowtcg.com/showthread.php?t=17613 - I like his response to this one "well that's retarded" |
| 13:54.17 | Lopeppeppy | You go, you bad boy you. |
| 13:54.49 | alestane | So, when someone gets DQ'd, does their opponent get a by, or does the person they eliminated get their spot? |
| 13:54.55 | alestane | (I presume the former) |
| 13:55.21 | Shirik | I wouldn't call it a bye because that affects tiebreakers differently, but their opponent does get a win yes |
| 13:55.35 | Cide | he is apparently from sweden too |
| 13:55.47 | airtonix | hey Shirik, did you know minecraft has more subscribers than your card game |
| 13:55.59 | Shirik | I didn't think the card game had any subscribers |
| 13:56.04 | Shirik | so hopefully minecraft has 1 |
| 13:56.08 | airtonix | derp |
| 13:58.36 | alestane | I presume the "chain" is what MTG calls the "stack"? |
| 13:58.46 | Shirik | yes |
| 13:59.17 | Shirik | I'm not sure why they decided to change the name; as far as I know it is identical to MTG's concept of the stack |
| 13:59.25 | alestane | Probably for copyright reasons. |
| 14:00.02 | alestane | That's not uncommon. I'm guessing that WoW has its own name for changing a card's orientation to reflect a change in game state ("tapping")? |
| 14:00.10 | Shirik | exhaust :) |
| 14:00.10 | Cide | I'm not sure how prior art works with regards to using words in a specific context |
| 14:00.24 | Cide | but certainly the word stack was used prior to MTG in other contexts at least |
| 14:00.39 | alestane | Because I think WotC has a patent on tapping cards or something else slightly ridiculous. |
| 14:00.42 | Shirik | which leads to some really interesting thoughts behind the "I'd tap that" t-shirt |
| 14:00.52 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 14:00.53 | Cide | I'd exhaust that |
| 14:01.02 | airtonix | i'd delay that |
| 14:02.08 | alestane | L5R called it "bowing". |
| 14:02.23 | Shirik | oh god I had someone teach me L5R |
| 14:02.27 | Shirik | and my head exploded |
| 14:02.35 | Shirik | It does, however, seem like my kind of game |
| 14:05.01 | Shirik | anyway, I have a judge test I need to take! |
| 14:05.08 | Shirik | I have been told I need to "move up in the ranks" |
| 14:05.16 | Shirik | so if I fail it I blame you Cide |
| 14:05.32 | Cide | L5R? |
| 14:05.48 | Cide | and you should blame me |
| 14:05.54 | Shirik | legend of the 5 rings |
| 14:06.05 | Cide | you should play battlefield instead |
| 14:06.10 | Shirik | a game where there's 3 ways to win and 1 way to lose, which leads to some really interesting interactions |
| 14:06.20 | Cide | you should play battlefield instead |
| 14:06.22 | Shirik | 2 people going in completely different directions for a win is interesting |
| 14:06.25 | alestane | Two ways to lose. |
| 14:06.32 | Shirik | -40 honor and? |
| 14:06.34 | Shirik | -20* |
| 14:06.42 | alestane | Having all your provinces destroyed. |
| 14:06.52 | Cide | and dying irl |
| 14:06.55 | Shirik | oh I put that in the "ways to win" category |
| 14:07.08 | Shirik | I guess it makes more sense in the lose category |
| 14:07.26 | Shirik | kinda like WoW the way to wn is actually "no players remaining" |
| 14:07.30 | Cide | makes more sense in the winning category no? |
| 14:07.35 | Shirik | (or my deck, which was get to +40 honor) |
| 14:07.39 | Cide | a way to lose is determined by your own actions |
| 14:07.44 | alestane | Three wins: last man standing (regardless of how they lose), gaining the inheritance, or all five rings in play. |
| 14:07.57 | Cide | getting destroyed comes from the opponent's action |
| 14:08.11 | alestane | Two losses: no provinces, or -20 honor. |
| 14:08.22 | Lopeppeppy | Statement! 1-love |
| 14:08.34 | Shirik | Cide: the problem is when there's more than 2 people, destroying all provinces does not necessarily translate into a win |
| 14:08.38 | Cide | ah, if there are more than two players I suppose that works bettert |
| 14:08.40 | Cide | better |
| 14:08.42 | Cide | yeah |
| 14:08.52 | alestane | L5R was designed from the get-go around multiplayer. |
| 14:09.05 | Shirik | WoW's way to win is identical: 102.1 Players win the game if no opponents remain in the game |
| 14:09.05 | Cide | that reminds me |
| 14:09.12 | Cide | you should play battlefield instead |
| 14:09.18 | Shirik | oh that reminds me |
| 14:09.20 | Shirik | I have battlefield |
| 14:09.25 | Cide | we should play right now |
| 14:09.29 | alestane | Whereas in Magic, the original assumption was two-player, and people happened to notice that the rules needed little modification for multiplayer. |
| 14:09.31 | Shirik | I kinda have to go to work |
| 14:09.37 | Cide | you can break these chains |
| 14:09.49 | Cide | fake your own death |
| 14:09.51 | Shirik | I have been to work once in like the past 2 weeks |
| 14:09.51 | Cide | so we can play |
| 14:09.54 | alestane | Then they started clearing up the cards that assumed a single opponent. |
| 14:10.08 | Cide | and then get revived in 3 or so days |
| 14:10.19 | Cide | so we can turn today into an international holiday |
| 14:10.24 | Cide | and create a religion in your name |
| 14:11.16 | Shirik | uh no |
| 14:11.28 | Cide | boring |
| 14:12.14 | Shirik | ANYWAY, Baltimore was awesome, I don't think I've ever been to the inner harbor |
| 14:16.31 | Torhal|work | Shirik: Were you on this flight? |
| 14:16.33 | Torhal|work | http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/17/travel/canada-disoriented-pilot/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn |
| 14:21.40 | Shirik | um no |
| 14:25.08 | Torhal|work | Didn't think so. |
| 14:25.35 | Shirik | allllllways united |
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| 14:25.46 | Shirik | I'm at 30k miles this year so far |
| 14:26.17 | Torhal|work | Jeebus |
| 14:27.15 | Fisker | hey Torhal|work |
| 14:27.32 | Torhal|work | Oh, hey - it's That Fisker Dude (™). |
| 14:27.43 | Fisker | who is that? |
| 14:27.51 | Torhal|work | Nevermind. |
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| 14:38.58 | alestane | Okay...an error message actually came in useful. I got "switch case is in protected scope", which perplexed me, but the IDE helpfully pointed a little arrow at an earlier line saying "bypassing this variable initialization" |
| 14:39.10 | alestane | One pair of braces resolved the problem. |
| 14:39.33 | Shirik | that error makes no sense |
| 14:39.46 | Cide | it's eclipse |
| 14:39.47 | Shirik | are you using gcc? |
| 14:39.48 | Cide | what do you expect |
| 14:40.01 | Cide | unless it came from the compiler |
| 14:40.18 | alestane | Actually, that was in XCode, which I think means it came from llvm. |
| 14:40.25 | Shirik | oh god |
| 14:40.26 | Cide | are you using clang? |
| 14:40.29 | Shirik | objective C? |
| 14:40.36 | Cide | clang++ I should say |
| 14:40.36 | alestane | Straight C++. |
| 14:40.40 | Cide | I thought you used gcc |
| 14:40.44 | alestane | I'm using whatever the default is. |
| 14:40.54 | Shirik | ok well that error message still makes no sense |
| 14:41.01 | Cide | pretty sure clang++ has the most awesome error messages |
| 14:41.03 | Cide | so that is probably gcc |
| 14:41.07 | alestane | When I go to actually compile these on the server, I use gcc there. |
| 14:41.43 | alestane | I agree, Shirik, I would have had no idea what it meant if it hadn't been pointing a little arrow at a temporary variable initialization. |
| 14:41.52 | nevcairiel | xcode uses llvm-gcc-4.2 by default |
| 14:42.09 | nevcairiel | dont ask me whatever that means |
| 14:42.10 | Shirik | like I know there's cryptic error messages, and there will always be, but that error message is like |
| 14:42.33 | Shirik | it literally makes no sense. It's like it came from that random paper generator, it just took a bunch of words and mashed them together |
| 14:42.49 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 14:42.57 | Fisker | you're gonna regret the day you were born |
| 14:43.00 | Shirik | k |
| 14:46.18 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 14:46.25 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 14:46.34 | alestane | Alright. Cleaned up the errors that XCode caught but eclipse didn't. Now to see if that created new errors in eclipse. |
| 14:46.58 | nevcairiel | you should compile your code and let the compiler be the judge about errors |
| 14:47.46 | nevcairiel | not to mention that eclipse is horrible at C++ |
| 14:47.55 | nevcairiel | even more so then at java |
| 14:48.24 | alestane | I'm using it because it's what my partner had access to. I was sending him code I did in XCode and he was complaining that it suffered strange compile errors that I didn't see. |
| 14:48.41 | alestane | Still using XCode to actually compile and debug. |
| 14:48.48 | Cide | what you are talking about is likely eclipse guessing about errors |
| 14:48.55 | Cide | presumably you both use the same compiler (gcc) |
| 14:50.06 | Cide | unless eclipse/xcode forward those checks to gcc |
| 14:50.11 | Cide | but somehow I doubt that |
| 14:52.32 | Fisker | heys nevcairiel |
| 14:52.54 | alestane | Shirik, that error was in reference to this code (lines 9 and 12): http://pastebin.com/zZL9zBXk |
| 14:53.05 | alestane | Fixed it by using http://pastebin.com/RKak6cL6 |
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| 14:53.41 | Shirik | sure, I see the error, but my point is really there is no connection between a case block and "protected scope" |
| 14:53.49 | Shirik | they are two completely different concepts that have no relationship to each other |
| 14:57.55 | alestane | I know that's been an issue with gotos in Go and Lua 5.2...can't jump into a scope, you have to execute its initialization. |
| 14:58.10 | alestane | Because they're trying to keep goto 'safe'. |
| 14:58.45 | mitch0 | xcode uses clang nowadays, doesn't it? |
| 15:01.01 | alestane | Could be. |
| 15:02.18 | Shirik | well I just searched through the entirety of the C++ standard, the only mention of the word "protected" is with regards to member accessibility in classes |
| 15:03.15 | karl_w_w | I did nothing the pavement was his enemy |
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| 15:13.41 | nevcairiel | Its a common error though that it complains about variable declarations inside a switch without explicit scoping |
| 15:13.49 | nevcairiel | the error message is just crazy |
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| 15:16.47 | Adys | kd3: ping |
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| 15:28.28 | alestane | So Peppy, I have this bottle of rum that should really get finished before we have to move... |
| 15:33.15 | Thunder_Child | drink faster |
| 15:37.38 | Kraps_w | whats with all the drinkers on irc /rolleyes |
| 15:38.31 | Fisker | you wouldn't Thunder_Child |
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| 15:38.43 | Thunder_Child | no Fisker, i would not. |
| 15:38.52 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, rum! |
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| 16:00.39 | Unkle | station |
| 16:01.02 | durcyn | you some kind of teetotaller, Kraps_w? |
| 16:01.17 | Kraps_w | no |
| 16:01.42 | Kraps_w | i just think drunkenness is dumb |
| 16:02.06 | alestane | "If you think that denying babies these rights and privileges might drive their parents to abstinence, well, we tried it your way, and it didn't work." |
| 16:08.41 | Shirik | Ackis: So I called the draft at DMF Baltimore. The script is still stuck in my head 2 days later ._. |
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| 16:32.20 | alestane | Some crazy stuff: http://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/robotics-hardware/robotic-octopus-takes-first-betentacled-steps/?utm_source=techalert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=041212 |
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| 16:49.32 | Yoshimo | if i have 2 GetPlayerMapPosition results and the size of the map from GetMapInfo, how do i calculate the distance between the 2 positions? |
| 16:51.14 | karl_w_w | simple trigonometry |
| 16:54.13 | Yoshimo | im not good at math |
| 16:54.31 | Lopeppeppy | Trig is not simple. :) |
| 16:55.13 | Thunder_Child | it's subjective Ms. Peppy |
| 16:55.50 | Cide | Yoshimo: pythagorean theorem |
| 16:56.27 | Cide | or simply google "distance between two points" |
| 16:57.48 | jnwhiteh | Cide: can I have your permission to kill Tom for constantly typing STHLM? |
| 16:57.59 | jnwhiteh | or do you approve of this ridiculous behaviour |
| 16:58.05 | Cide | it's quite common |
| 16:58.09 | Cide | I never do it myself |
| 16:58.14 | Cide | for similar reasons as yours |
| 16:58.20 | Cide | so take that as you will? :P |
| 16:58.26 | jnwhiteh | its like "Lots of words and I type lots of various things but right in the middle STHLM okay?" |
| 16:58.26 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 16:58.49 | Lopeppeppy | no, you can't do a murder, jnwhiteh, unless you have the bail money in escrow already. |
| 16:58.54 | jnwhiteh | its almost as bad as smth |
| 16:58.58 | rtharper | lol |
| 16:58.58 | rtharper | what |
| 16:59.01 | jnwhiteh | in the middle of an otherwise normally formed paragraph |
| 16:59.02 | rtharper | STHLM STHLM |
| 16:59.07 | rtharper | VI SKA TILL STOCKHOLM |
| 16:59.10 | rtharper | =p |
| 16:59.18 | rtharper | angry jnwhiteh is angry |
| 16:59.23 | jnwhiteh | imadbro |
| 16:59.26 | rtharper | hahah |
| 16:59.30 | Cide | I see Sthlm too |
| 16:59.30 | rtharper | so easy to troll |
| 16:59.40 | rtharper | will you get upset with CPH too? |
| 16:59.42 | Lopeppeppy | hide his toothbrush, really piss him off. |
| 16:59.47 | Cide | I have never seen CPH |
| 17:00.00 | rtharper | Is there one for göteborg, Cide? |
| 17:00.00 | Cide | copenhagene? |
| 17:00.05 | rtharper | yeah |
| 17:00.06 | Cide | actually yes |
| 17:00.08 | Cide | GBG |
| 17:00.14 | Cide | that one is more common than sthlm |
| 17:00.17 | rtharper | definitely using GBG |
| 17:00.31 | Cide | to the point where people pronounce it GBG |
| 17:00.33 | nevcairiel | sthlm is just horrible |
| 17:00.44 | nevcairiel | way to odd combination of characters to type |
| 17:00.45 | Cide | "sthlm" is more or less entirely a text thing |
| 17:00.49 | rtharper | hehe |
| 17:00.54 | rtharper | and a tourist board thing |
| 17:00.55 | jnwhiteh | truth, nevcairiel speaks it. |
| 17:01.06 | rtharper | STHLM, The Capital of Scandinavia |
| 17:01.06 | Cide | sthlm isn't bad to type |
| 17:01.19 | nevcairiel | you need to move to a city that gets to call itself HH, easy to type, short, there! |
| 17:01.32 | Cide | certainly better than the "ol" of stockholm |
| 17:01.44 | Cide | which at least I use the same finger for |
| 17:01.50 | Stanzilla | city 88 |
| 17:01.56 | F16Gaming | my town is called krhmn :o |
| 17:01.58 | Cide | dramatically decreasing my typing speed |
| 17:02.06 | Cide | by like 0.1s |
| 17:02.08 | Unkle | A city with a psychological disorder named for it. Poor Stockholm. |
| 17:02.16 | Cide | oh shit |
| 17:02.17 | Cide | he's dead |
| 17:02.40 | tutti | Hello again people. |
| 17:02.54 | Cide | in a strange twist of events it turns out that jnwhiteh was holding rtharper captive |
| 17:03.10 | Cide | and their relationship is formed based on the very psychological disorder Unkle mentioned |
| 17:03.14 | nevcairiel | my city has a fast food snack named after it, so shrug |
| 17:03.20 | nevcairiel | i should read up why that is, anyway! |
| 17:03.22 | Cide | do you live in mcdonalds? |
| 17:03.27 | Cide | is that even a city? |
| 17:03.42 | tutti | No, silly, he lives in Cheesedoodle. |
| 17:04.00 | jnwhiteh | why are they taking so long to tell me how my job interview went. |
| 17:04.00 | jnwhiteh | >< |
| 17:04.08 | nevcairiel | since when is mcdonalds a snack, its a place |
| 17:04.28 | Cide | I sent spotify my resume a year ago or so jnwhiteh |
| 17:04.28 | Cide | saying I can work there full time while in school |
| 17:04.28 | Cide | still waiting to hear from them |
| 17:04.30 | jnwhiteh | Cide: haha |
| 17:04.31 | Cide | so be prepared to wait a year |
| 17:04.33 | Cide | ! |
| 17:04.35 | jnwhiteh | I was referred, and I've had two interviews |
| 17:04.38 | tutti | Don't a lot of employers love when potential employees call them? |
| 17:04.42 | jnwhiteh | they responded the day of the first interview |
| 17:04.47 | Cide | lies |
| 17:04.48 | Cide | LIES |
| 17:04.49 | jnwhiteh | its only been 3 working days :P |
| 17:04.52 | jnwhiteh | TRUTH |
| 17:04.52 | nevcairiel | i would usually give them a week, and then ask |
| 17:04.57 | jnwhiteh | i'm calling on Friday |
| 17:05.00 | jnwhiteh | if I haven't heard :P |
| 17:05.00 | Arrowmaster | got a referral from krka? |
| 17:05.15 | Cide | can you get me infinite spotify premium then jnwhiteh |
| 17:05.17 | Cide | would be super |
| 17:05.23 | Cide | also |
| 17:05.26 | jnwhiteh | Arrowmaster: yeah, we met up with him when were in Stockholm |
| 17:05.29 | Cide | improve their linux port |
| 17:05.29 | jnwhiteh | and the job sounds interesting :P |
| 17:05.39 | jnwhiteh | Cide: the linux port needs at least hotkeys on the menus, imo |
| 17:05.40 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 17:05.42 | jnwhiteh | but yes |
| 17:06.00 | Cide | indeed |
| 17:06.06 | Cide | it's a lot better now than it was three months ago though |
| 17:06.12 | Cide | now the volume control actually works |
| 17:06.24 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 17:10.11 | kd3 | exit |
| 17:10.17 | kd3 | grr |
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| 17:18.20 | Arrowmaster | so no bestbuy stores can sell the witcher 2 right now because trying to ring it up crashes the register |
| 17:18.50 | Ressy | lol |
| 17:18.58 | BlackNet | good for them |
| 17:19.05 | BlackNet | before to long they are going out of business |
| 17:19.06 | kd3 | hahaha |
| 17:19.27 | Thunder_Child | good because it's a PoS game |
| 17:19.38 | Cide | ? |
| 17:19.45 | Cide | it received more or less universal acclaim |
| 17:20.11 | Thunder_Child | didnt the first one as well? |
| 17:20.17 | Arrowmaster | they are closing the local store here, i went to pickup my preorder of the dark edition and were told they didnt get it and couldnt check other store locations because the dark edition isnt in the computer, came home and they called saying they finally found it |
| 17:20.27 | Cide | I don't know? |
| 17:21.00 | Cide | but the opinion that it's a piece of shit game is probably the odd opinion of the two |
| 17:21.24 | Arrowmaster | go to get it and it crashed the register and they called corp and found out its happening everywhere so my copy is locked in the managers office with notes on it saying its for me only and not to sell to anybody else |
| 17:22.09 | Arrowmaster | had to get refunds for my prototype2ce and d3ce preorders though |
| 17:22.43 | Cide | steam ftw |
| 17:22.56 | durcyn | you gave best buy money, this is why you're bad. |
| 17:23.33 | Arrowmaster | try to find witcher2 dark edition anywhere else |
| 17:23.39 | Arrowmaster | just try |
| 17:24.39 | BlackNet | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPZAgstnTiM |
| 17:24.55 | kd3 | sighs at discovery making its final flight |
| 17:25.03 | Maldivia | Arrowmaster: PC, or xbox? |
| 17:25.08 | Arrowmaster | xbox |
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| 17:25.11 | BlackNet | SO no more space flights? |
| 17:25.24 | kd3 | not any time soon for the US, at least |
| 17:25.36 | kd3 | hopefully spacex's unmanned dock with the ISS in a few weeks goes off well |
| 17:25.52 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aTagDSnclk |
| 17:28.19 | durcyn | it can be had from a variety of places according to google shopping. do you have some kind of irrational attachment to brick-and-mortar? |
| 17:29.38 | Arrowmaster | did you check the prices |
| 17:30.05 | durcyn | found one for $86, which is slightly higher than it was when it was new, but you're looking for a collector's edition of something that's been out for a year |
| 17:30.30 | Arrowmaster | no im looking for a collectors edition of something that came out today |
| 17:30.32 | durcyn | but you're gaming on a console anyway, so I don't imagine much sense can be talked into you |
| 17:31.12 | tutti | Well you don't get Metroid on a PC... |
| 17:31.18 | Arrowmaster | cheapest price on amazon was $166 |
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| 17:31.49 | Unkle | Dear Exchange and McAfee GroupShield - stop fighting and fucking up my whole day, thanks. |
| 17:32.07 | Arrowmaster | Unkle: watch eureka last night? |
| 17:32.20 | Unkle | No, I was at work until almost 11pm local time. |
| 17:32.22 | bluworkcow | oh noes tornados in the US. everyone ok ? |
| 17:32.24 | BlackNet | last season for eureka isn;'t it? |
| 17:32.28 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 17:33.16 | Lopeppeppy | I am not near tornados, bluworkcow. But the US is kinda big, where exactly did they get Oz-cycles? |
| 17:33.24 | Arrowmaster | Unkle: youre going to giggle like a school girl at one of felicia's lines |
| 17:33.48 | Lopeppeppy | I will pay to hear that. |
| 17:33.52 | Unkle | Arrowmaster: I'll have to catch it on a rerun or wait for it to show up on Netflix of something. :/ |
| 17:35.47 | Unkle | Lopeppeppy: I don't giggle like a schoolgirl. I laugh like a madman. |
| 17:36.24 | Unkle | When the movie "Grumpy Old Men" was in theaters I wne to see it. I apparently laughed so hard that a woman came up to me after the movie to comment on it. |
| 17:36.25 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm. Not as worthy of my money. I watched Ren and Stimpy in the 90s |
| 17:36.44 | Lopeppeppy | I pissed off some teenagers when I laughed myself silly in Piranha 3D |
| 17:37.18 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh! I got The Boyfriend to watch the two Megashark movies with me this weekend. He was much amused by my amusement. |
| 17:39.05 | Unkle | MegaShark vs Phiranna in 3D - with Smell-o-vision! |
| 17:39.36 | Lopeppeppy | Only if penii and breast implants get stuck in Sharkzilla's teeth. |
| 17:42.31 | pompy | http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/space-shuttle-discovery-flies-over-dulles-airport-156/2012/04/17/gIQAgIZ2NT_video.html videos of the flyover and then the takeoff.. nice. |
| 17:42.58 | Unkle | is still envious that Johnson Space Center didn't get a shuttle. |
| 17:47.53 | BlackNet | they doing something like the last fight of the blackbird? |
| 17:49.22 | Unkle | No, they're moving the shuttles to their final resting places. |
| 17:49.31 | BlackNet | :( |
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| 17:49.42 | BlackNet | a last flight like the blackbird sho9uld be in order |
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| 17:50.33 | Unkle | Houston lobbied for one, but didn't get it. NYC, DC and another city that escapes me are getting them. (Gutted, turned into displays). |
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| 17:51.54 | Unkle | http://techcrunch.com/2011/04/12/nasa-names-the-space-shuttles-final-resting-places/ |
| 17:54.50 | Arrowmaster | dayton tried to get one but didnt either |
| 17:55.36 | BlackNet | so no more shuttles at all now? |
| 17:55.41 | BlackNet | what are they going to use |
| 17:56.06 | Arrowmaster | nothing, they are going to pay russia to use theirs |
| 17:56.42 | BlackNet | this is going to come back to bite us on the ass |
| 17:57.42 | durcyn | the shuttle program should've ended years ago. it's the lack of a replacement that's the issue. |
| 17:58.06 | BlackNet | yup |
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| 17:58.52 | durcyn | Ares is a mess, the USAF isn't sharing their X-37B, and none of the private vehicles can scale yet |
| 17:58.56 | BlackNet | wasnt' aura suppose to replace the shuttles? |
| 17:59.43 | kd3 | orion |
| 18:00.04 | kd3 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_(spacecraft) |
| 18:00.11 | Arrowmaster | how many x-37B's are there |
| 18:00.47 | durcyn | and wasn't orion/constellation cancelled |
| 18:00.58 | kd3 | constellation was, they're trying to retool it into orion |
| 18:00.59 | BlackNet | The Obama Administration's proposed cancellation of the Constellation program began in February 2010 and was signed into law October 11.[ |
| 18:01.01 | BlackNet | as per link |
| 18:01.41 | Unkle | This is the same stupid stunt we pulled with the Saturn V lifters. We mothballed working devices because we didn't want to pay for them while working on their replacements. |
| 18:01.42 | Arrowmaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:01.57 | kd3 | bleh, c'mon, wow launcher, finish downloading updated tools... |
| 18:02.06 | BlackNet | ok so why was it canned?: |
| 18:02.17 | kd3 | click on the constellation link, it should go into it |
| 18:02.26 | Unkle | My dad built control rods for the cargo bay arm when he machined parts for Rockwell. |
| 18:02.56 | Unkle | The program was canned for expense and so they could build other projects for lift vehicles. |
| 18:03.03 | Ressy | Note: Kaspersky is having problems with the tools update. Disable Kaspersky to be able to download the tools patch, and then the game patch. |
| 18:03.10 | kd3 | really doesn't want to have to fire up the vm just to update wow too |
| 18:03.28 | Unkle | http://www.space.com/11363-nasa-space-shuttle-replacement-30-years-anniversaries.html |
| 18:04.15 | pompy | kd3: did u update live? they pushed 4.3.4, 4mb patch |
| 18:04.19 | durcyn | space.com needs more social media buttons |
| 18:04.31 | kd3 | that's what I'm trying to update pompy |
| 18:04.35 | Arrowmaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:04.38 | kd3 | it's just spinning its wheels on the tools patch |
| 18:05.03 | pompy | ah, i didnt have to ddl a tools patch |
| 18:05.27 | Unkle | kd3: Beats my crashing at the end of the patch this morning "Internal Critical error" |
| 18:06.04 | BlackNet | ok so the direction was changed. |
| 18:06.15 | pompy | heh i couldnt open launcher.txt while the launcher was runnin. |
| 18:06.22 | BlackNet | no moon landing for 2020 but focus changed to deep space exploration |
| 18:06.35 | nevcairiel | what do you want on the moon anyway |
| 18:06.44 | kd3 | H3? |
| 18:06.54 | Arrowmaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:07.00 | BlackNet | how about a giant american flag that every fool with a telescope from maomart could see clearly |
| 18:07.13 | Unkle | And no devices for LEO - those are to come from the commercial/private sector. I'm fine with that aspect, if there was something launch-capable already. :/ |
| 18:07.49 | BlackNet | The canned lunar program, called Constellation, "was over budget, behind schedule, and lacking in innovation due to a failure to invest in critical new technologies," according to the White House budget plan |
| 18:08.02 | BlackNet | It said NASA's attempts to pursue its moon goals had drawn funding away from other programs, such as robotic exploration and Earth observations. |
| 18:09.05 | Unkle | Hey, the Mars Rover and several other robotic missions each produced amazing science and data for less than the cost of filming a summer Vince Vaugn flop. |
| 18:09.08 | BlackNet | ok so they scrap a 9 billion project (current dump value) and throw 6 billion into theorycrafting |
| 18:10.00 | durcyn | don't worry, the rest of it'll get defunded to pay for a war anyway |
| 18:10.07 | BlackNet | that's the direction from what they are saying here. robo missions |
| 18:10.53 | BlackNet | so from 2010 to 2015 they get 6 billion for theorycrafting. it's now 2012 so almost half thru |
| 18:11.17 | Unkle | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_F3pw5F_Pc |
| 18:12.06 | BlackNet | another 3 billion over 5 years on robotic missions to moon, mars and nearby asteroids to scout targets |
| 18:12.23 | BlackNet | and satelites to monitor climate changes |
| 18:14.11 | kd3 | grr |
| 18:14.14 | kd3 | fires up the vm |
| 18:16.16 | bluworkcow | wot doing kd3 |
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| 18:16.24 | kd3 | trying to update live |
| 18:16.28 | bluworkcow | y? |
| 18:16.30 | kd3 | the tools update keeps choking |
| 18:16.35 | kd3 | 4.3.4 is out |
| 18:16.36 | bluworkcow | hmmm |
| 18:16.46 | bluworkcow | i don't believe there wasa tools update |
| 18:16.52 | pompy | yeah there wasnt! |
| 18:16.52 | kd3 | maybe I haven't logged in in a while |
| 18:16.59 | pompy | yeah tehre was one last week' |
| 18:17.00 | bluworkcow | i think its chocking on applying the updates from the /Updates/ folder |
| 18:17.10 | Ressy | blu: There was. |
| 18:17.17 | bluworkcow | can you pastebin connection.log ? what error were you getting ? |
| 18:17.44 | bluworkcow | @Ressy i checked the patch server. There wasn't. It uses the data from the MPQ file that goes in Updates to update stuff directly to the wow programs |
| 18:17.50 | kd3 | no error, the launcher pops up the downloading tools update progress bar, gets to 50% and then freezes |
| 18:18.39 | bluworkcow | hmmm |
| 18:20.31 | bluworkcow | https://rapidshare.com/files/4283199117/Patch_4.3.4.zip |
| 18:20.46 | bluworkcow | ressys mirror of the 4.3.4 patch + tools |
| 18:21.19 | pompy | ah |
| 18:21.20 | pompy | 4/17 11:32:13.869 Component Tool.Win.2736 |
| 18:21.43 | pompy | well it completed really fast for me :) |
| 18:22.03 | pompy | bluworkcow: that was in the connection.log |
| 18:22.07 | bluworkcow | weird |
| 18:22.15 | bluworkcow | current is meant to be 2737 :| |
| 18:22.18 | Ressy | Everything updated today. |
| 18:24.19 | Ressy | #----------------------------------------------------------- |
| 18:24.19 | Ressy | # System started at 2012-04-17 13:15:26.5039 |
| 18:24.19 | Ressy | # system: |
| 18:24.19 | Ressy | #----------------------------------------------------------- |
| 18:24.20 | Ressy | 13:15:26.5683 Launcher version 4.2.1.2730 |
| 18:24.20 | Ressy | 13:15:26.6391 World of Warcraft version 4.3.3.15354 |
| 18:24.21 | Ressy | 13:15:28.3995 Preparing for a tools patch. |
| 18:24.22 | Ressy | That was today. |
| 18:24.40 | bluworkcow | there you go |
| 18:24.44 | bluworkcow | you were at 2730 |
| 18:24.49 | bluworkcow | 2736 come out a few days ago |
| 18:24.58 | kd3 | then, yah, that's my problem |
| 18:24.59 | bluworkcow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4427535718 |
| 18:25.02 | kd3 | is at 2706 |
| 18:25.11 | nevcairiel | thats ancient |
| 18:25.18 | bluworkcow | woah |
| 18:25.18 | bluworkcow | grandpa |
| 18:25.27 | Maldivia | kd3: and you have the urls to the client patch files :P |
| 18:25.45 | kd3 | eh, haven't bothered with updating (or even starting) the live client in a while |
| 18:25.52 | Ressy | blu: I was in live the last several days |
| 18:25.55 | Ressy | and there was no tools patch |
| 18:26.42 | bluworkcow | *shrug* |
| 18:27.07 | bluworkcow | there may of been an issue at your end. i was seeing a few threads in tech support about the new tools patch 3 days ago. |
| 18:27.23 | Ressy | I got nada. |
| 18:28.12 | bluworkcow | it didn't come through the launcher. had to open wow.exe directly to get it. there were players complaining they couldn't get in because of it. |
| 18:28.43 | Ressy | Thats odd. |
| 18:30.23 | bluworkcow | real odd |
| 18:31.44 | bluworkcow | heh heh |
| 18:32.11 | bluworkcow | i would be examining logs as to why but it's a moot point now. everyone should be on 2736 now :D |
| 18:32.17 | bluworkcow | anyways work shift over |
| 18:32.20 | bluworkcow | imma outta here! |
| 18:36.06 | Jamash | MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON |
| 18:36.49 | Jamash | MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON |
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| 18:40.00 | BlackNet | http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/taliban-commander-turns-self-in-for-reward-on-wanted-poster/2012/04/17/gIQAbVjqNT_blog.html this is so funny |
| 18:40.06 | BlackNet | worlds most stupid people |
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| 18:41.39 | kd3 | I, uh... wow |
| 18:41.52 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 18:42.02 | Ressy | lol |
| 18:42.38 | TMc51 | no words can describe the stupidity |
| 18:42.43 | BlackNet | indeed |
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| 18:43.48 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 18:43.55 | Fisker | how is that stupid BlackNet ? |
| 18:44.01 | Fisker | got some earbuds jnwhiteh i can get ? |
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| 18:45.05 | jnwhiteh | I have one or two spare pairs, why |
| 18:45.06 | jnwhiteh | ? |
| 18:45.15 | Fisker | in tf2 jnwhiteh |
| 18:45.19 | jnwhiteh | oh, no. |
| 18:45.31 | Fisker | i thought you got it on the mac back then :( |
| 18:46.14 | pompy | "“This guy is the Taliban equivalent of the ‘Home Alone” burglars,” one U.S. official said." |
| 18:46.15 | pompy | LOL |
| 18:47.09 | Jamash | did he get the reward? |
| 18:47.36 | TMc51 | I dont think the wet bandits were quite so stupid to turn themselves in for the reward, though. |
| 18:48.02 | Jamash | hey $100 is a lot of money |
| 18:48.21 | pompy | "We asked him, ‘Is this you?’ Mohammad Ashan answered with an incredible amount of enthusiasm, ‘Yes, yes, that’s me! Can I get my award now?’” recalled SPC Matthew Baker." |
| 18:48.22 | BlackNet | to them maybe |
| 18:48.31 | BlackNet | guess the taliban is not paying to well these days |
| 18:48.52 | Fisker | yeah i don't see it |
| 18:48.55 | Fisker | he got $100 for free |
| 18:49.04 | Fisker | unless the US government is a bunch of jerks |
| 18:49.19 | BlackNet | so you catch a mouse with cheese. you catch taliban commanders with $100 rewards |
| 18:49.20 | BlackNet | LOL |
| 18:50.00 | pompy | "“Clearly,” one U.S. official said, “the man is an imbecile.”" |
| 18:50.01 | pompy | lol |
| 18:50.16 | Fisker | heck pirates probably want to get caught too |
| 18:50.20 | Fisker | except by russians |
| 18:50.33 | Fisker | being caught by russians suck |
| 18:57.57 | Dagmar | Maybe that's been our mistake all along... |
| 18:58.30 | Dagmar | We could have just airdropped bags of money with 'For continued peace--now stop shooting each other' in them all over the place. |
| 18:59.39 | BlackNet | Dagmar we did that |
| 19:00.07 | Dagmar | No, we put large stacks of money in a room and then stopped watching it for extended periods of time. |
| 19:00.10 | Dagmar | There's a difference. |
| 19:00.26 | BlackNet | no we dropped money over areas |
| 19:00.34 | Dagmar | We should have just airdropped the 53 million instead of just letting it be pilfered |
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| 19:03.32 | Unkle | Actually, we should have gotten a bunch of those T-Shirt Cannons and used them to launch rolls of $100 bills into crowds. |
| 19:03.44 | Unkle | Might actually have been cheaper overall. |
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| 19:11.01 | mikma | rtharper: TOMMYYYH |
| 19:11.39 | kd3 | emails away, whee |
| 19:12.20 | mikma | for what what, in the butt |
| 19:14.02 | Arrowmaster | D3 patch & wipe incoming http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/4427569656#1 |
| 19:14.06 | rtharper | mikma: o hai 2 u |
| 19:23.21 | Adys | nicoli_s: ping |
| 19:23.40 | mikma | where is my beta invite goddamnit |
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| 19:29.45 | Arrowmaster | http://www.shutupmath.com/discussion/question/sampm/ |
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| 19:31.09 | BlackNet | lol good one |
| 19:31.55 | alestane | Gotta love it when you try to use a straightforward class like stringstream, and get several errors thrown from the header files themselves with no link to what caused them. |
| 19:33.04 | Fisker | hey Arrowmaster |
| 19:33.28 | alestane | Ah, that's it; I unwittingly tried to copy an iostream. |
| 19:34.44 | Fisker | those bastards |
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| 19:36.49 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: lol |
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| 19:40.53 | karl_w_w | mikma: i thought they pretty much invited everyone to d3 beta now |
| 19:41.18 | karl_w_w | did you fill in your beta profile thingo on battle net? :P |
| 19:47.01 | mikma | karl_w_w: what d3 beta? :D |
| 19:47.05 | foxlit | did someone want a D3 beta invite? |
| 19:47.21 | mikma | if you got a spare, then i would like one :P |
| 19:47.21 | Unkle | I'm pretty stoked that D3 is shipping so soon. :) |
| 19:47.47 | mikma | karl_w_w: both, d3 and wow beta |
| 19:47.48 | Unkle | FInally all my D3-aticipating friends can get the game and we'll be able to play. :) |
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| 19:50.56 | Unkle | For those of you who want to add me, my BattleTag is Unkle#1177 |
| 19:51.13 | Dagmar | Wait, it went to open beta or something? |
| 19:51.30 | Unkle | They've added a big load of new testers in the last week. |
| 19:51.35 | Dagmar | Hmm... |
| 19:51.41 | Dagmar | Damn them |
| 19:51.46 | Unkle | And BattleTags connect MoP beta and D3 beta. |
| 19:52.19 | Unkle | I was using that system to talk to Cogwheel (in D3) while I was in MoP. |
| 19:52.45 | kd3 | I'm kd3#1949 |
| 19:52.56 | kd3 | waits for the loading screen to finish... |
| 19:53.04 | Stanzilla | world war 2 |
| 19:53.38 | kd3 | player not found. guess it doesn't work adding friends wowside |
| 19:53.39 | mikma | mine will have to wait till tomorrow (thanks foxlit), sleepytime and explosives-training tomorrow |
| 19:58.00 | mikma | cairenn: http://www.geekologie.com/2012/04/super-fetishes-man-in-giant-blow-up-supe.php |
| 19:58.20 | Cairenn | o.O |
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| 20:02.01 | TC-Work | it would be nice to be able to add battletags outside of a program |
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| 20:03.21 | pompy | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/220866-battletag-update-free-battletag-change/ |
| 20:05.31 | Maldivia | Hmm... anyone tried added someone as realId friend, using their battleTag on live? |
| 20:05.42 | BlackNet | there we go, all the parts i need to start turning pens on my new lathe. to kick it off im making a us flag pen |
| 20:06.12 | pompy | Maldivia: "player not found" |
| 20:06.37 | Maldivia | pompy: ok, because I tried it on MoP, and it added as a real RealId friend (as in, I could see name, and so could the other part) |
| 20:09.25 | karl_w_w | <Unkle> And BattleTags connect MoP beta and D3 beta. <- battletags are live in wow |
| 20:09.39 | Unkle | Really now? |
| 20:09.43 | karl_w_w | really |
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| 20:09.48 | karl_w_w | you just cant add anyone |
| 20:10.32 | TC-Work | i wouldnt exactly call that 'live' then |
| 20:10.37 | pompy | yeah thats beta |
| 20:10.39 | pompy | lol |
| 20:11.03 | karl_w_w | come again? |
| 20:11.09 | TC-Work | dont mind if i do |
| 20:11.58 | karl_w_w | how is that not live? |
| 20:12.07 | TC-Work | because it does not work |
| 20:12.08 | pompy | MoP isnt live yet |
| 20:13.27 | nevcairiel | If you cannot use a feature, its not usable, hence not live. :P |
| 20:13.52 | pompy | ^ |
| 20:14.03 | nevcairiel | there is a difference between "deployed" and "live!" |
| 20:14.17 | pompy | and beta and release/live ! |
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| 20:15.53 | Maldivia | Unkle: you on eu or us servers normally ? |
| 20:16.22 | Maldivia | or anyone on US live right now? |
| 20:16.33 | pompy | yeah |
| 20:16.57 | Maldivia | pompy: can I try something with your BattleTag? |
| 20:17.07 | pompy | i havent set one up yet |
| 20:17.08 | nevcairiel | he'll violate you |
| 20:17.10 | Unkle | US. |
| 20:17.27 | Maldivia | Unkle: you online? |
| 20:17.47 | Unkle | No, I'm at work. :/ |
| 20:17.54 | Maldivia | ok :) |
| 20:18.01 | Unkle | But you've had me added for some time. |
| 20:18.12 | Maldivia | that's on bet |
| 20:18.13 | Maldivia | a |
| 20:18.23 | Maldivia | beta list != live list |
| 20:18.34 | Unkle | Ay, capito. |
| 20:19.16 | Maldivia | pompy: you were online, US live? |
| 20:19.24 | pompy | "Even if you haven't created your BattleTag identifier yet, you'll still get one free BattleTag change to use after it's been created" |
| 20:19.28 | pompy | ok works for me |
| 20:19.29 | pompy | sec |
| 20:19.50 | nevcairiel | just name it pompy, what can go wrong |
| 20:19.55 | pompy | yup |
| 20:20.07 | Ackis | name it dumbass |
| 20:20.40 | nevcairiel | somehow i'm sure someone used that |
| 20:20.48 | Unkle | They can't Ackis… It's been reserved for you. |
| 20:21.03 | TC-Work | doesnt matter nevcairiel, thats the point |
| 20:21.48 | nevcairiel | would be more fun if the number was just sequentially increasing for the name you picked |
| 20:22.19 | pompy | Maldivia: yes im logged into US live atm |
| 20:22.28 | nevcairiel | nevcairiel#2741 is just boring, would rather be nevcairiel#1 :P |
| 20:23.36 | tutti | I'd probably still be tutti#56 or something :( |
| 20:24.35 | nevcairiel | hm, now that diablo3 is global, does that mean battletag also is? I remember realid was not |
| 20:24.56 | Maldivia | I'm _really_ hoping that'll be the case |
| 20:25.20 | Ressy | Soon (TM)? |
| 20:25.23 | nevcairiel | would be silly if i can play on US servers but not battletag them |
| 20:25.27 | Cide | what do you mean global |
| 20:25.30 | nevcairiel | or rather with US people |
| 20:25.35 | Cide | I thought it was just that you could switch region at will? |
| 20:25.36 | kd3 | hrm - wtb breadcrumbs to pandaria from sw |
| 20:25.39 | kd3 | supposedly they're in |
| 20:25.58 | nevcairiel | there is just an npc that ports you, if that counts as a breadcrumb for you :P |
| 20:26.02 | foxlit | Maybe it only works if you're playing on the right continent |
| 20:26.11 | kd3 | oh, I'm aware, just want quests |
| 20:26.36 | nevcairiel | you mean i get multiple battletag lists, depending where i am right now? |
| 20:26.50 | Unkle | kd3: The wayward landing quests hint that there is a starter quest from SW that isn't in yet. |
| 20:26.51 | foxlit | one list, but you only see people on your shard. |
| 20:26.56 | foxlit | of course, I'm only guessing |
| 20:27.24 | Unkle | kd3: And from the texts, I'm assuming something like the Vash'jir opening. |
| 20:27.49 | foxlit | Unkle: except actually good. |
| 20:28.00 | Unkle | I certainly hope so. |
| 20:28.01 | kd3 | yah, that's my impression too. grr at folks in /1 giving misinformation |
| 20:28.31 | Unkle | kd3: Lost Isles /1 makes me want to add chlorine to the genepool. |
| 20:28.59 | pompy | nevcairiel: its says global when u subscribe to the annual pass |
| 20:29.15 | Ressy | Lost Isles /1 is usually hell. |
| 20:29.17 | nevcairiel | yeah, i see that there |
| 20:29.38 | Ressy | Didn't you guys see crabby? |
| 20:29.49 | Ressy | He said Battle tags were coming to wow |
| 20:30.28 | nevcairiel | they are, with mop |
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| 20:31.23 | Maldivia | or they'll add it in with a patch on the 15th? |
| 20:31.48 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 20:31.50 | nevcairiel | quite possible |
| 20:32.15 | nevcairiel | anyway, i just found the original quote, and all they said was that further clarifications on "global play" will come "Soon"(tm) |
| 20:32.40 | nevcairiel | actually, soon was "prior to Diablo III launch", but yeah :P |
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| 20:34.00 | Maldivia | and when will D3 launch... |
| 20:34.14 | nevcairiel | soon? :) |
| 20:34.46 | Maldivia | well, will all servers go live at the same time (midnight PST? so 9am CET), or? |
| 20:35.01 | pompy | midnight pst |
| 20:35.08 | pompy | maybe? |
| 20:35.15 | Maldivia | and if that is the case, will all the European shops with midnight releases planned be pissed? |
| 20:35.25 | Maldivia | and what about SEA area? |
| 20:36.06 | pompy | found this for cata |
| 20:36.07 | nevcairiel | i dont remember, how was it for cata? I know that i could play at midnight CET, i suppose US did get their own midnight? |
| 20:36.11 | pompy | "Cataclysm goes live for the entire continent at 12 midnight EST, regardless of server, assuming they follow the trend they did for TBC and Wrath." |
| 20:36.26 | pompy | i dont remember that though |
| 20:36.30 | Maldivia | pompy: WoW is region locked... D3 isn't |
| 20:36.41 | nevcairiel | i would assume the US going live at the same time, its only a few hours difference |
| 20:36.47 | nevcairiel | other continents are further away |
| 20:37.11 | pompy | 5 hour difference in US (damn hawaii!) |
| 20:37.22 | nevcairiel | guess thats something they still need to clarify in due time |
| 20:37.41 | nevcairiel | anyway, its 27 days now, +/- a few hours |
| 20:37.44 | Maldivia | well, "due time" should be now... we're 4 weeks away |
| 20:38.00 | nevcairiel | isnt it enough when you know a day ahead? :P |
| 20:38.21 | Maldivia | for me personally - sure |
| 20:38.29 | Maldivia | well, a few days ahead of time would be swell |
| 20:38.32 | pompy | bluepost from cata http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1083608418#1 |
| 20:38.48 | nevcairiel | i assume they'll tell within the next two weeks |
| 20:39.26 | nevcairiel | i actually wouldnt mind if release is at 9am here |
| 20:39.42 | nevcairiel | much better start into the game then at midnight |
| 20:39.45 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 20:40.24 | Ressy | I heard something about D3 servers going up 6 hrs before being released midnight pst |
| 20:40.28 | karl_w_w | <nevcairiel> If you cannot use a feature, its not usable, hence not live. :P <- and how does "can't add" = "cannot use"? |
| 20:41.08 | nevcairiel | If you have a buddy list, and you cannot put people on it, then you cannot use any of its other features either! |
| 20:41.12 | Maldivia | but the local game shops, that are planning on having midnight opened, might be kind of pissed, if the servers doesn't open till 9am :P |
| 20:41.13 | Maldivia | or well, the players who go there and buy anyway :P |
| 20:41.13 | Maldivia | agree |
| 20:41.21 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: well, you don't _have_ to start when it's released |
| 20:41.22 | Maldivia | I wonder why they removed the Invis mode from their realid/battletag system again |
| 20:41.29 | karl_w_w | but you can put people on it, just not in wow |
| 20:41.47 | nevcairiel | what other game features battletags? |
| 20:41.53 | Maldivia | karl_w_w: well, there are no games right now wher you can add via battletag :P |
| 20:42.21 | nevcairiel | d3 beta does, but beta is a seperate system |
| 20:42.21 | karl_w_w | you can't add people in D3? |
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| 20:42.32 | nevcairiel | the lists are not shared with "live" |
| 20:42.44 | nevcairiel | same as WoW beta, which doesnt share real-id lists with live |
| 20:43.08 | karl_w_w | interesting |
| 20:43.16 | karl_w_w | regardless, the system is still live |
| 20:44.12 | nevcairiel | believe what you want, but if you cannot use it, its not "live", but merely "deployed" |
| 20:44.26 | nevcairiel | unless you can go and add a person on there now |
| 20:44.33 | Maldivia | D3 is live... it's been deployed... sure, it's still encrypted, but it's live... |
| 20:44.58 | nevcairiel | It doesnt even let you install it =P |
| 20:45.09 | Maldivia | well... actually :) |
| 20:45.11 | pompy | "In preparation for the launch of Diablo III on Tuesday, May 15, the beta servers will be brought offline on Tuesday, May 1." |
| 20:45.15 | pompy | ahh gotta get my palytime in! |
| 20:45.35 | Maldivia | may 1st... nooo :) |
| 20:45.52 | Ressy | D3 beta & WoW beta share real-id lists tho. Which is interesting. |
| 20:45.54 | karl_w_w | live and deployed are synonymous |
| 20:46.09 | karl_w_w | in that live means deployed to the live environment |
| 20:46.10 | Maldivia | Ressy: they use the same bnet server, so not that interesting |
| 20:46.18 | Maldivia | Ressy: same with the WoW PTR, and the S2 PTR |
| 20:46.44 | Ressy | You can see how beta tags look in wow, in the beta. |
| 20:46.49 | Maldivia | (and probably soon to be S2x1 beta) |
| 20:46.54 | Ressy | if you have a friend in d3 beta. |
| 20:46.57 | nevcairiel | karl_w_w: you have to come up with a term that makes a difference between "someone put it onto the production server" and "its unlocked and available for usage". :p |
| 20:47.13 | karl_w_w | "usable"? :P |
| 20:48.13 | nevcairiel | i prefer to stick with "live" actually meaning "i can go and use it now" |
| 20:48.32 | nevcairiel | because any other state of live is just not interesting for me |
| 20:51.03 | Maldivia | alive? |
| 20:52.24 | amro | if there are any madrid fans in here, HA HA! |
| 20:52.25 | pompy | http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/news/?d=2012-3 3rd story down |
| 20:53.08 | nevcairiel | that information is not explicitly stating that this will be the global time |
| 20:53.14 | nevcairiel | of course a US news would mention the US time |
| 20:53.50 | pompy | on nevcairiel, http://eu.blizzard.com/en-gb/news/?d=2012-3 |
| 20:53.54 | pompy | lol no time, just date |
| 20:54.29 | pompy | ok* |
| 20:54.31 | nevcairiel | exactly :p |
| 20:54.48 | nevcairiel | only says when the AP expires |
| 21:03.12 | pompy | http://www.gamestop.com/pc/games/guild-wars-2-collectors-edition/100452 |
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| 21:17.52 | karl_w_w | http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/580720_10150654120830974_226811920973_9589596_1804711736_n.jpg |
| 21:17.54 | karl_w_w | :O |
| 21:18.14 | karl_w_w | nsfw text |
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| 21:23.03 | karl_w_w | oh! |
| 21:23.16 | karl_w_w | i know how to find out what time d3 is released |
| 21:24.47 | Unkle | http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/4905211/The_Diablo_III_Beta_Draws_to_a_Close-4_17_2012#blog |
| 21:25.00 | karl_w_w | i suspect it'll be midnight local time everywhere though |
| 21:25.14 | Unkle | *nod* that is pretty typical. |
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| 21:31.48 | Unkle | Dear Oracle; why do so many of your database products have to be so fragile? |
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| 21:33.12 | karl_w_w | Dear Unkle; thank you for taking the time to contact us here at Oracle. We were abused as a child. |
| 21:33.30 | Unkle | karl_w_w: It wouldn't shock me. |
| 21:34.18 | alestane | 'reinterpret_cast form char to unsigned char not allowed'...well then, what IS the appropriate way? |
| 21:35.23 | karl_w_w | interesting, i just fell from a great height into water and didn't end up below the surface, that's never happened before |
| 21:35.27 | karl_w_w | 4.3.4 improvement? |
| 21:35.43 | Maldivia | alestane: isn't reinterpret_cast only for pointers? |
| 21:36.20 | Cide | pretty sure the c++ casts are mostly for classes |
| 21:36.23 | Cide | or pointers to classes |
| 21:36.34 | Cide | you should probably just go for a C style cast of (unsigned char)foo |
| 21:36.40 | karl_w_w | ah, 4th attempt, underwater |
| 21:37.12 | Cide | the C++ casts as I understand it are mostly for things that can fail |
| 21:37.26 | Cide | char to unsigned char will never fail |
| 21:37.34 | Cide | it's just interpreting the same memory as different things |
| 21:39.58 | Maldivia | well... reinterpret_cast really doesn't offer much safety, since it's basically just like a C-type cast, right? |
| 21:40.43 | alestane | I just realized that my code was misbehaving because I had a bunch of bit patterns being extracted from a char[], but those that had a high bit set were having that high bit extended when they were promoted to long. |
| 21:40.58 | alestane | SO, casting to unsigned should avoid that. |
| 21:41.24 | alestane | But I wasn't sure how static_cast would handle overflows in the conversion. |
| 21:42.08 | Maldivia | well, there's a simple way to find out :P |
| 21:44.36 | alestane | One of the reasons the C++ casts exist is because the "(type) expr" cast is ambiguous. |
| 21:44.48 | karl_w_w | [05:42:53] [W To][Guizhan]: 397 mage [Alizabal] dont want any gear at all <- doesn't get me an invite. apparently standards are very high for getting a BH invite on my realm |
| 21:45.40 | karl_w_w | so, who's gonna write the little addon that closes right drop down menu after you have reported somebody? |
| 21:45.44 | alestane | A "(size_t) &myVar) is a reinterpretation, but a "(float) 17" requires actual code to create the equivalent value. |
| 21:46.36 | Maldivia | static_cast<float>(17) then ? |
| 21:48.13 | alestane | Right. static_cast is used for casting values between functionally similar but representationally different types. |
| 21:50.08 | alestane | Anyway, have to shut down and pack up. |
| 21:51.10 | bluspacecow | hmm |
| 21:51.13 | bluspacecow | is this possible : http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4427709324 |
| 21:52.24 | karl_w_w | most definitely |
| 21:52.36 | karl_w_w | though I don't know if it's possible to do within wow :P |
| 21:52.49 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:53.16 | karl_w_w | yummy |
| 21:53.16 | cbreak | on your system, char is likely signed. |
| 22:09.05 | karl_w_w | the very best part of BH runs |
| 22:09.23 | karl_w_w | is watching that one Simple getting the debuff and running out of the group |
| 22:10.14 | karl_w_w | s/ning/n/ |
| 22:10.25 | karl_w_w | fail |
| 22:22.16 | Maldivia | https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-YrICHdA0lW0/T413UPpPCuI/AAAAAAAAAO8/3L1s6bF5UUg/s920/471181_10150573247859649_53283489648_7887476_1572638167_o.jpg |
| 22:23.30 | karl_w_w | THAT'S NOT A QUESTION IT'S A STATEMENT WITH A QUESTION MARK THROWN ON THE END OF IT |
| 22:27.18 | bluspacecow | sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep tiems nows |
| 22:27.24 | foxlit | "share this if you think people who make pictures with "share this" will be the first up against the wall when the revolution comes" |
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| 22:28.16 | durcyn | if only irc had social media integration, foxlit, i'd twetumblike that line. |
| 22:28.57 | karl_w_w | what |
| 22:29.10 | karl_w_w | irc is the original social media |
| 22:29.24 | xyphoid | yeah, you just copy and paste the line into other channels |
| 22:29.28 | xyphoid | and pretend you came up with it |
| 22:29.38 | karl_w_w | spot on |
| 22:30.14 | foxlit | embed small linguistic errors to track the sharing progress. |
| 22:31.18 | karl_w_w | as an only loosely related thing i just thought of |
| 22:31.34 | karl_w_w | a lot more people should have played chinese whispers when they were younger |
| 22:32.05 | foxlit | is that the game where you purposefully change the line upon relaying it? |
| 22:32.39 | karl_w_w | if you're the mischievous type, yes |
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| 22:49.43 | karl_w_w | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4427539005 that is effing fantastic and im fully just going to copypasta it into the new suggestion feature |
| 22:53.39 | karl_w_w | except the 500 character limit is woefully inadequate |
| 22:59.57 | karl_w_w | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4427668621 <- nope, nothing incongruous here |
| 23:20.06 | TC-Work | gives karl_w_w less sugar |
| 23:22.08 | karl_w_w | thank TC-Work |
| 23:22.24 | karl_w_w | less sugar + already existing sugar = more sugar |
| 23:22.32 | karl_w_w | and more sugar is always a good thing |
| 23:24.53 | Jammer | karl_w_w: that aoe targeting is pretty good idea |
| 23:26.18 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 23:26.40 | karl_w_w | the number of times I've been not quite able to land pet freeze on time is ridiculous |
| 23:27.27 | Maldivia | hmm... D3 patch 17 coming, and it mentioned cross-game chat, as if they're moving D3 to the live chat servers? |
| 23:28.27 | Maldivia | otherwise, why mention it, since you've been able to do cross-game chat during the entire beta with wow beta/ptr |
| 23:29.21 | karl_w_w | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unusual_deaths fantastic |
| 23:29.37 | foxlit | Maldivia: perhaps it's the battletag mechanism that is more significant? |
| 23:29.53 | foxlit | as in you'll now be able to battletag-chat with people on wow beta/ptr. |
| 23:30.06 | foxlit | as opposed to merely realid-chatting |
| 23:30.43 | Maldivia | foxlit: you've been able to battle-tag chat with wow beta since that started |
| 23:31.01 | foxlit | okay then. |
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| 23:34.12 | foxlit | karl_w_w: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Sauna_Championships |
| 23:35.19 | Xzempt | Is their a way to get the player bank info, like number of slots purchased, number of bags in the bank and number of slots that the bank has? |
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| 23:35.43 | foxlit | yes. |
| 23:36.14 | karl_w_w | - if the bank is open |
| 23:37.10 | Xzempt | yeah, i know the bank would have to be open |
| 23:37.22 | Xzempt | numSlots, isFull = GetNumBankSlots() is the only thing i can find related |
| 23:37.41 | Xzempt | which tells me how many slots are purchased and if all were purchased |
| 23:38.20 | Xzempt | but i cant find anything that lets me get the number of slots each bag in the bank slot has |
| 23:39.23 | Xzempt | unless GetContainerNumSlots() will work there too |
| 23:39.47 | karl_w_w | Jimi Heselden, British owner of the Segway motorized scooter company, was killed when he accidentally drove off a cliff on a Segway at his estate at Thorp Arch near Boston Spa. |
| 23:41.16 | mckenziemc | o.o |
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| 23:42.25 | Xzempt | Do I understand this containerID properly? for the main storage area in the bank it's id is -1? and would that mean, if i had the default bag + 4 others, that the container id of the first bag in the bank would be 6? |
| 23:43.05 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: http://www.diginfo.tv/v/11-0231-r-en.php does this make you feel better about holograms? |
| 23:43.31 | Arrowmaster | seen it |
| 23:43.46 | Arrowmaster | and no it doesnt |
| 23:44.26 | foxlit | Xzempt: no. |
| 23:45.29 | Xzempt | ah its 5 |
| 23:45.45 | Xzempt | @ first bank bag |
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