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| 00:34.50 | Xuerian | pompy: Hah, that's pretty great. |
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| 01:37.39 | Cide | TC-Work: because mcid is not a string |
| 01:37.44 | Cide | but the None object |
| 01:37.49 | Cide | which is akin to nil in lua |
| 01:37.54 | Cide | (but not really) |
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| 01:39.12 | bleeter | firefall, eh |
| 01:39.48 | pompy | http://pc.ign.com/articles/122/1222247p1.html |
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| 01:41.23 | foxlit | that's nice. |
| 01:41.54 | kd3 | more of kd3 trying to be eloquent bitching about quests in the Jade Forest: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4365747040 |
| 01:43.23 | bleeter | ah so that's what notch ended up calling it. |
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| 01:46.28 | ccox | actually, that looks like a pretty good writeup for the quests - should be helpful to the designers |
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| 01:50.44 | bleeter | Fisker: |
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| 01:56.20 | Fisker | bleeter |
| 01:56.23 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 01:59.21 | Fisker | farts on cogwheel |
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| 02:03.51 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 02:03.53 | Fisker | come here |
| 02:04.00 | kd3 | hm? |
| 02:04.15 | Fisker | cuts a real bad one |
| 02:04.30 | kd3 | good thing my nose is stopped up thanks to pollen |
| 02:04.36 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 02:04.37 | Fisker | :( |
| 02:05.12 | Fisker | jerk move as some would say |
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| 02:08.47 | TC-Work | Cide: i realize i am coming at this bass ackwards and blind, but i thought letters in a variable were litteral strings. |
| 02:09.51 | Fisker | hey there TC-Work |
| 02:10.01 | Fisker | are you a handsome young man |
| 02:10.02 | Fisker | ? |
| 02:10.02 | TC-Work | nods @ Fisker |
| 02:10.26 | TC-Work | actually i am a smoking hot old woman |
| 02:10.39 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 02:10.40 | Fisker | :( |
| 02:17.58 | BlackNet | 2 packs a day? |
| 02:18.45 | Fisker | lets all go TP old man cogwheel's house |
| 02:31.46 | Cide | TC-Work: what |
| 02:45.12 | starlon | snaps a whip for good measure. |
| 02:46.41 | starlon | snaps a measure for good music. |
| 02:46.57 | starlon | Overtime! |
| 02:47.10 | starlon | Doubletime I mean! |
| 02:47.12 | starlon | lol |
| 02:47.24 | bluspacecow | Cairenn: http://imgur.com/p7eS3 |
| 02:47.38 | Cairenn | lol |
| 02:51.19 | Adys | gah |
| 02:52.26 | TC-Work | Cide: what what? |
| 02:53.56 | cogwheel | le sigh http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/4254465182?page=1#13 |
| 02:55.03 | Ackis | hey Fisker |
| 02:55.10 | Ackis | I have a nexus phone and so does my wife |
| 02:55.19 | Ackis | we linked up to the same google play account thingy |
| 02:55.30 | Ackis | how do I change the phone descriptions in there? |
| 02:55.45 | Ackis | and wow I'm typing annoying by putting this all on a new line instead of one long line |
| 02:56.12 | cogwheel | ackis |
| 02:56.13 | cogwheel | wut |
| 02:56.13 | cogwheel | u |
| 02:56.15 | cogwheel | talkin |
| 02:56.15 | cogwheel | bout |
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| 02:56.28 | cogwheel | inb4ban |
| 02:56.30 | cogwheel | <.< |
| 02:56.34 | cogwheel | *asks for it* |
| 02:56.56 | Ackis | hehe |
| 02:56.58 | Kaylin | sets mode +b on cogwheel*@* |
| 02:57.10 | Kaylin | is kidding. |
| 02:57.16 | cogwheel | chuckles |
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| 03:07.15 | TC-Work | Cide: nvm, i just thought you could never do foo = bar as oppsed to foo = "bar" |
| 03:07.20 | pompy | Ackis: should be a 'my devices' page there somewhere |
| 03:11.40 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: https://play.google.com/store/account devices tab |
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| 03:12.59 | Ackis | danke! |
| 03:29.07 | bleeter | https://twitpic.com/95b6ki |
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| 03:44.58 | Shirik | dedede |
| 03:45.02 | Shirik | Congratulations Matthew Del Buono! |
| 03:45.02 | Shirik | You have earned Honor Rank 3 and qualify for the 1st Quarter Honor Rewards! |
| 03:45.09 | Shirik | this is why the WoW TCG is better than MAgic |
| 03:45.17 | Shirik | they send you free promos |
| 03:46.31 | Adys | Shirik: I thought the wow tcg died? |
| 03:46.37 | Adys | or something |
| 03:46.39 | Shirik | hell no |
| 03:46.48 | Shirik | I'm going to two conventions in the next two weeks just to judge for it |
| 03:46.53 | Adys | wasnt there a story about it being sold or some other shit like a year ago? |
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| 03:47.24 | Adys | Arrowmaster: ping |
| 03:47.26 | pompy | cryptozoic is the new company |
| 03:47.38 | Shirik | oh yeah |
| 03:47.40 | Shirik | because UDE was shit |
| 03:47.42 | pompy | http://www.cryptozoic.com/ |
| 03:47.49 | Shirik | also I am amused |
| 03:47.51 | Shirik | anyone can buy the promo |
| 03:47.56 | Shirik | but they sent me a code to make it free |
| 03:47.58 | Shirik | https://store.cryptozoic.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=HONOR_L3_Q12012 |
| 03:48.01 | Arrowmaster | Adys: what |
| 03:48.02 | Shirik | normal price: $1000 |
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| 03:48.21 | Shirik | soooo not worth $1000 |
| 03:48.21 | Adys | Arrowmaster: since i switched to arch zsh is back to having my delete key input a tilde |
| 03:48.23 | Adys | WHAT FIX |
| 03:50.25 | Arrowmaster | bindkey -M emacs "$terminfo[kdch1]" delete-char |
| 03:51.47 | Corrodias | you could buy a card |
| 03:52.06 | Corrodias | or you could buy 140 pounds of bacon cheese |
| 03:53.29 | Corrodias | i think we're done here. |
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| 04:01.49 | Adys | Arrowmaster: tyvm |
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| 04:11.57 | Shirik | holy shit |
| 04:12.10 | Shirik | make sure you're sitting down before reading the next line: |
| 04:12.20 | Shirik | Fox actually reported something INTELLIGENT |
| 04:12.25 | Shirik | contrary to all the other media |
| 04:12.51 | kd3 | is it a blue moon out? |
| 04:14.19 | Adys | kd3: possibly, this morning the mpaa opposed a censorship bill in arizona |
| 04:15.18 | kd3 | o_O |
| 04:15.19 | Arrowmaster | next thing you know the republicans will start doing things that benefit the people! |
| 04:15.30 | Shirik | hey |
| 04:15.34 | Shirik | republicans do things that benefit me |
| 04:16.12 | Adys | same here, ever since i found out pop corn was healthy |
| 04:16.21 | Shirik | If you're curious: Watch the video http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/trayvon-martin-shooting-nbc-apologizes-airing-edited-version-911-call-george-zimmerman-article-1.1055599?localLinksEnabled=false |
| 04:16.27 | Shirik | good idea to read the article too |
| 04:16.49 | Adys | kd3: I'm this close to installing pulse |
| 04:16.54 | Adys | turns out alsa is a piece of shit. |
| 04:17.08 | Shirik | install windows |
| 04:17.15 | Adys | funny guy |
| 04:17.19 | Shirik | it has this really cool thing called DirectSound |
| 04:17.20 | Adys | my headphones dont even work on windows |
| 04:17.25 | Shirik | the sound goes direct |
| 04:17.26 | Arrowmaster | i wish i could remove pulse |
| 04:17.29 | Shirik | which means it's better |
| 04:17.36 | Shirik | anything with Direct is better |
| 04:17.49 | Adys | pulse is good for people who have one sound card |
| 04:17.56 | kd3 | well, the thing is, pulse uses alsa, so... |
| 04:17.56 | Adys | a pci one, with jack output |
| 04:18.05 | Adys | kd3: no |
| 04:18.07 | kd3 | unless you go directly to something like JACK |
| 04:18.13 | Arrowmaster | or OSS |
| 04:18.21 | Adys | pulse is also its own output |
| 04:18.25 | Arrowmaster | wrong |
| 04:19.05 | Adys | Arrowmaster: pulse links against alsa but doesn't go *through* it |
| 04:20.02 | Arrowmaster | ok try having just pulse installed and no alsa, oss, jack, or anything else installed and see how it works |
| 04:21.10 | Shirik | Can you use ASIO on linux? |
| 04:21.16 | Adys | erm |
| 04:21.18 | Adys | i should reword |
| 04:21.46 | Adys | Arrowmaster: im speaking programatically here |
| 04:22.05 | Adys | if you write against pulse, you dont use alsa api, you use pulse's alsa subset |
| 04:22.25 | Arrowmaster | im speaking kernel level |
| 04:22.35 | Adys | yeah i worded that poorly sorry |
| 04:24.46 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: for low latency critical stuff you would use jack, otherwise alsa is already fairly low latency |
| 04:25.00 | Arrowmaster | pulse is a laggy bitch though |
| 04:25.12 | Shirik | I would want it as close to 0 as possible |
| 04:25.32 | Shirik | real-time mixing can get really strange with even a couple ms delay |
| 04:25.49 | Arrowmaster | yeah for professional audio work people use jack |
| 04:25.57 | Adys | 28G 15464.direct |
| 04:25.59 | Adys | Fuck MoP |
| 04:26.01 | Adys | honestly |
| 04:27.07 | Arrowmaster | hmm i guess jack, like pulse, doesnt do its own sound output |
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| 04:30.37 | Adys | is it possible to log in to mop eu with an us client? |
| 04:30.37 | Adys | actually yes it is nvm |
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| 04:41.39 | Adys | god damn i hate disk IO |
| 04:41.44 | Adys | cp expansion2.MPQ is the same as /quit here |
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| 04:42.43 | Arrowmaster | weird |
| 04:48.56 | Shirik | amused at the guy that tried to accept his own unblock request: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:50.83.185.60&diff=next&oldid=485452445 |
| 04:50.40 | Cairenn | Shirik |
| 04:51.04 | Kraps | yes because i didnt do nothin racusts tryna kep me 2 not do nothin on this cus they mad |
| 04:52.27 | Shirik | hi Cairenn, I was writing you an email! |
| 04:52.39 | Cairenn | good :) |
| 04:57.48 | Kraps | whoa shirik wrote this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:TEARHEADOFF |
| 04:58.06 | Shirik | looooooong time ago |
| 04:58.11 | Shirik | I have become more pragmatic since those days |
| 04:58.39 | Kraps | haha |
| 04:59.44 | Kraps | fuck all editors ever - shirik, 2012 |
| 05:03.07 | kd3 | ok... as far as I know, I've now got every quest in jade forest (from the alliance perspective) up on the wiki |
| 05:03.12 | kd3 | bring on valley of the four winds |
| 05:04.25 | Kraps | Shirik, are you still active on wiki |
| 05:07.37 | karl_w_w | interesting, my character frame doesnt update if its open when i cast arcane int on myself |
| 05:07.44 | karl_w_w | but it does if i use a flask |
| 05:08.12 | karl_w_w | ditto cancelling them |
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| 05:17.57 | Fisker | hey Shiriks |
| 05:20.24 | karl_w_w | tickles Fisker with a feather |
| 05:22.38 | Fisker | don't tickle me |
| 05:24.05 | karl_w_w | it is done |
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| 05:29.26 | Fisker | attackfarts bluspacecow |
| 05:29.32 | bluspacecow | X_X |
| 05:29.35 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:29.56 | Fisker | let the hate flow bluspacecow |
| 05:30.13 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:30.21 | bluspacecow | *force lightings Fisker* |
| 05:30.59 | Fisker | you're dead |
| 05:31.29 | bluspacecow | im undead and on the sith side |
| 05:31.31 | bluspacecow | u mad ? |
| 05:32.19 | Fisker | nope |
| 05:34.01 | karl_w_w | so i was filling out a web form today |
| 05:34.11 | karl_w_w | and one of the text fields had this written above it: |
| 05:34.13 | karl_w_w | Note: Please don't type characters ' or '' in the field as this may generate errors. |
| 05:34.30 | bluspacecow | reminds me of the xkcd cartoon |
| 05:34.43 | karl_w_w | little bobby tables we call him |
| 05:34.45 | bluspacecow | where they name their son "bobby drop tables" something rather |
| 05:34.51 | Fisker | what a great service karl_w_w |
| 05:35.08 | Fisker | "Note: This site supports SQL injection attacks" |
| 05:35.19 | bluspacecow | http://xkcd.com/327/ |
| 05:35.26 | Fisker | old bluspacecow |
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| 05:37.22 | bluspacecow | @adys hai2u |
| 05:37.35 | Adys | I'm going to die |
| 05:37.46 | mckenziemc | so is bluspacecow |
| 05:37.48 | karl_w_w | that would be unwise |
| 05:38.01 | Adys | pulseaudio --start |
| 05:38.02 | Adys | E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed. |
| 05:38.03 | Adys | Just |
| 05:38.10 | Adys | fuck this with a magnet |
| 05:38.47 | Adys | this is debug language for "fuck off" |
| 05:41.21 | Adys | % pulseaudio --start --log-level=debug |
| 05:41.21 | Adys | E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed. |
| 05:41.26 | Adys | UNBELIEVABLE |
| 05:45.12 | Fisker | to be fair you didn't ask it to be verbose Adys |
| 05:47.14 | mckenziemc | nobody asked you to be verbose either, Fisker |
| 05:47.23 | karl_w_w | zing |
| 05:47.35 | Fisker | it defaults to on mckenziemc |
| 05:47.51 | karl_w_w | only because you're badly coded |
| 05:48.04 | mckenziemc | files a ticket. |
| 05:48.35 | Fisker | refiles the ticket under feature request aka not going to happen |
| 05:48.51 | mckenziemc | you can't manage your own tickets |
| 05:48.56 | Fisker | sure i can |
| 05:48.56 | mckenziemc | that path leads to sentience |
| 05:58.02 | kd3 | huh. apache's at 2.2.22-2 in fedora now |
| 06:05.22 | Arrowmaster | http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/apache2 |
| 06:05.46 | Arrowmaster | Package: apache2 (2.2.22-2) |
| 06:09.58 | kd3 | https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-3001/httpd-2.2.22-2.fc16 |
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| 06:18.24 | Jamash | I just realized that not only does the Known Space universe have at least *three* species with nonsentient females, I can only remember *one* female character's name in Larry Niven's entire body of work. |
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| 06:45.44 | Fisker | so many 2's kd3 |
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| 06:51.15 | Adys | Arrowmaster: well, after a lot of chatter in #pulseaudio, turns out my hardware is broken |
| 06:51.36 | Adys | I get so used to rage against linux sound that sometimes I forget to test shit on windows |
| 06:51.37 | Adys | kill me |
| 06:51.53 | Arrowmaster | yet it magically worked with ubuntu? |
| 06:55.38 | Adys | Arrowmaster: that was the freaky part |
| 06:56.03 | Adys | Arrowmaster: the problem is triggered when unplugging/replugging it |
| 06:56.09 | Adys | it must have been on the edge of dying |
| 06:56.18 | Adys | it works one third of the time on windows too |
| 06:56.53 | Adys | im really pissed off, will have to call logitech in half an hour |
| 07:02.13 | Adys | Arrowmaster: fyi: http://paste2.org/p/1966104 |
| 07:06.46 | Fisker | why not just tell you "shit that hardware is whack, yo"? |
| 07:06.50 | Fisker | instead of failed to start |
| 07:07.16 | Adys | Fisker: that was for a different reason, dbus was missing and pulseaudio decided it was a good idea to just snob me |
| 07:07.35 | Fisker | ~wowalert |
| 07:07.36 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 07:07.49 | Adys | Arrowmaster: im theorizing here but im thinking the constant fucking seeking must have worn the dongle out |
| 07:08.01 | Adys | hahah oh god |
| 07:08.13 | Adys | i didnt even realize i did that. |
| 07:09.23 | Adys | seriously though, its a bluetooth dongle -- when it's not paired and active it constantly probes afaik, and its been just sitting seeking for 2 days straight |
| 07:10.10 | Fisker | so basically it foreveralone.jpg'd, controlled that guy in oakland via bluetooth and killed a bunch of people? |
| 07:10.33 | mckenziemc | Fisker |
| 07:10.35 | mckenziemc | noverbose |
| 07:10.38 | Fisker | mckenziemc |
| 07:10.49 | Fisker | i don't understand mckenziemc |
| 07:10.51 | Fisker | what does that mean? |
| 07:15.04 | mckenziemc | it's more commonly known as "stfu" |
| 07:18.42 | mikma | in what part of africa? |
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| 07:23.11 | Fisker | Adys |
| 07:23.15 | Fisker | can you update chrome? |
| 07:25.53 | Adys | Fisker: ? |
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| 07:27.09 | Fisker | mine won't update to the newest dev version :( |
| 07:27.13 | Fisker | just fails at downloading it |
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| 07:38.29 | Adys | erm i dont know |
| 07:38.33 | Adys | im using chromium off arch |
| 07:50.20 | karl_w_w | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:50.28 | karl_w_w | not that I'm going to tell anyone |
| 07:50.48 | Fisker | Ah, it's my first time on retail, it's 1 hour early in my country, I didn't pay attention to this box also, I thought it would be written "offline" on realms like it was on private servers... thanks for helping :) |
| 07:50.55 | Fisker | nevcairiel |
| 07:50.57 | Fisker | you're up |
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| 07:52.08 | karl_w_w | link Fisker? |
| 07:52.48 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3635914346?page=1#3 |
| 07:53.56 | AcidWeb | heh |
| 07:54.37 | Kaylin | to be fair |
| 07:54.43 | Kaylin | he's 22 and 20 is cap for trial accs |
| 07:54.45 | Kaylin | he's prob right |
| 07:55.11 | Fisker | he isn't a trial |
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| 07:55.17 | Kaylin | right but he prob was |
| 07:55.21 | Kaylin | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:55.35 | Fisker | that wasn't the point |
| 07:56.28 | Kaylin | if it was @ the private servers I don't see why that's our problem, at least I'd assume most of us don't actually work for Blizzard and I see no reason to offer help to people who need it, regardless. If it was something else I don't know. |
| 08:01.48 | Fisker | i still think it's silly to admit :) |
| 08:03.38 | bluspacecow | i dont as a rule offer help to people using private servers. There's just too many unknowns for me to deal with. |
| 08:03.53 | Fisker | i wouldn't either |
| 08:04.03 | Fisker | but in this case he didn't want help with his private server :D |
| 08:04.40 | bluspacecow | Tech support's hard enough without having to deal with reverse engineered server code that may or may not work the same as Blizzard's code |
| 08:05.53 | Fisker | s/may or may/does/ |
| 08:06.24 | bluspacecow | ~fiskerslap Fisker |
| 08:06.24 | purl | ACTION slaps Fisker around a bit with Fisker. |
| 08:06.28 | bluspacecow | INCEPTION@ |
| 08:06.32 | Fisker | nope |
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| 09:05.23 | zenzelezz | "you need an infinite amount of infinite dust to level enchanting, and it costs an infinite amount of gold" |
| 09:05.33 | zenzelezz | maybe I should've put my stacks up for more |
| 09:06.06 | bluspacecow | so you makes infinite gold ? |
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| 09:15.43 | Mikk | i sell infdust for 7g apiece |
| 09:15.49 | Mikk | yes 35g per stack |
| 09:15.54 | Mikk | no |
| 09:16.00 | Mikk | i cant count nvm me |
| 09:16.05 | Mikk | 140g |
| 09:16.24 | Mikk | i also bought a bajillion cheap crystals at end of wotlk |
| 09:16.25 | Mikk | MUAHAHAHA |
| 09:17.36 | zenzelezz | pretty close then, I sold my stacks for 150g |
| 09:18.14 | Mikk | still shattering those crystals. gonna still have in mop. |
| 09:18.16 | Mikk | rubs hands |
| 09:18.22 | zenzelezz | cleared out my WotLK materials finally; seven stacks of Infinite Dust, 11 Greater Cosmic Essence, 39 Dream Shard, tons of Eternal *... pretty decent |
| 09:18.53 | Mikk | i'm also pretty long-term about my gold gainings |
| 09:19.01 | Mikk | the one thing i know is - prices go up |
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| 09:28.11 | mikma | gaynings |
| 09:29.06 | bluspacecow | oh hai |
| 09:38.12 | karl_w_w | don't be mad mikma |
| 09:38.25 | karl_w_w | it just plays into bluspacecow's hands |
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| 09:42.46 | Fisker | nevcairiel pls |
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| 10:07.27 | karl_w_w | somebody identify this font please http://newspaper.li/static/d6f28d98c5aeb8bd075c4510f1287477.gif |
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| 10:11.01 | zenzelezz | no idea, but not a very pretty one in my opinion |
| 10:11.09 | karl_w_w | no |
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| 10:35.58 | Adys | kd3: ping |
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| 11:20.42 | airtonix | mikma: umadbro? |
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| 11:26.09 | mikma | airtonix: bimbo |
| 11:29.49 | airtonix | mikma: http://www.youtube.com/comment?lc=dl02OwRAndJ2mjbcPL23TVDJN3jgV909Vp5Nryi5zow |
| 11:31.01 | mikma | airtonix: whoa we got a baddass over here |
| 11:31.16 | airtonix | call the funpolice |
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| 11:39.08 | airtonix | here's the fun police |
| 11:39.14 | karl_w_w | if i keep typing my password wrong will blizzard come to my house and beat me over the head with a stick? |
| 11:39.27 | bluspacecow | no |
| 11:39.32 | airtonix | yes |
| 11:39.32 | bluspacecow | we'll send fiskers to fisker you |
| 11:39.43 | karl_w_w | \oh god |
| 11:40.00 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:40.33 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:44.33 | zenzelezz | gah... finish MC and I'm 92 rep off exalted >.< |
| 11:45.16 | Maldivia | there's always next week :P |
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| 11:48.55 | karl_w_w | <airtonix> i would actually send a man with a silenced pistol <- to share a cup of tea with? |
| 11:49.04 | airtonix | yeah |
| 11:50.53 | karl_w_w | why do u get the occasional youtube video where all the comments are in foreign? |
| 11:50.59 | karl_w_w | like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWgO9-AIROI&feature=related |
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| 11:52.37 | airtonix | because it's made by stupid foreigners |
| 11:55.12 | airtonix | karl_w_w: this is creepy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNZPRsrwumQ |
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| 12:21.27 | airtonix | lolololol : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XEURPbPBWqU#t=109s |
| 12:22.16 | Kalroth | huehuehue |
| 12:23.33 | haste | roguecraft :3 |
| 12:24.01 | Kalroth | that ballchins smiley gets me everytime |
| 12:25.05 | airtonix | emma watson |
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| 12:30.04 | BlackNet | oh wow, just read the new lootz setup for LFR |
| 12:32.45 | BlackNet | quite messed up |
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| 12:38.53 | Maldivia | why? it fits with the new quest loot system |
| 12:41.31 | BlackNet | design has heavy flaws for one |
| 12:42.04 | BlackNet | nor does it really fix the problem |
| 12:44.29 | Fisker | hey Maldivia |
| 12:44.32 | Fisker | not so hey haste |
| 12:44.48 | haste | not so hey Fisker |
| 12:44.59 | Maldivia | hey Fisker |
| 12:45.02 | Maldivia | and hey haste :P |
| 12:45.24 | Maldivia | BlackNet: which flaws are you referring to? |
| 12:45.30 | haste | hey Maldivia |
| 12:45.49 | Maldivia | haste: figured it wouldn't be polite to leave you out like Fisker did |
| 12:45.58 | Fisker | haste deserved it |
| 12:46.01 | haste | lies |
| 12:46.09 | BlackNet | Valor (or the various other names that the currency has had over the years) was originally added to WoW for two reasons: it helped to mitigate really bad luck, for those times when the boss just refused to drop the item you wanted, and it helped encourage players to stay with the group even if they didn’t need anything off the next boss. |
| 12:47.01 | Lopeppeppy | A reward for everybody, every boss. *nod* However small. |
| 12:47.18 | BlackNet | Charm of Good Fortune |
| 12:47.44 | BlackNet | so new setup is going to cater to loot whores |
| 12:48.34 | Torhal|work | Lopeppeppy: Where did my will to live go? |
| 12:49.25 | Maldivia | BlackNet: I actually like the change to valor, it makes it useful longer |
| 12:50.25 | karl_w_w | http://mrldust.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/guess_who_jackson.jpg |
| 12:51.23 | Fisker | oh ok haste |
| 12:51.24 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 12:52.08 | haste | hey Fisker |
| 12:53.15 | Maldivia | BlackNet: although, I don't know if I think heroic raiding gear should be upgradeable by valor, that will just cause that heroic raiders are required to run dungeons to upgrade their gear to stay competative |
| 12:53.35 | BlackNet | well they plainly stated it will |
| 12:54.18 | Lopeppeppy | Torhal, I stabbed it with a melon baller, dragged it out the to dumpster, doused it with Mad Dog and lit it on fire. |
| 12:54.32 | Lopeppeppy | Sorry about the mess. |
| 12:55.07 | BlackNet | the only good thing i saw in that article was area looting via 1 click |
| 12:55.24 | Torhal|work | Lopeppeppy: WHat the HELL kind of Mad Dog did you use to make it actually BURN? |
| 12:56.58 | Lopeppeppy | Grape. Smells nice, too. |
| 12:57.03 | BlackNet | regardless if all goes according to plans im not going to be around for MOP |
| 12:58.07 | Maldivia | well, we'll see how it goes when we get level 90 content on the beta |
| 12:58.24 | Torhal|work | Lopeppeppy: I have learned to fear you. |
| 12:58.25 | Maldivia | and can actually make an assesment of the system |
| 12:59.37 | BlackNet | a for the roll setup, that's not really going to fix the problem that's currently going on |
| 13:00.54 | Maldivia | no, but nothing can fix that problem |
| 13:01.10 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr, baby. *grin* Thank you. |
| 13:01.54 | Maldivia | when there are no consequences to rolling need on something you don't need, people will do it - either so they can trade it with other, or to DE, or to sell |
| 13:03.19 | BlackNet | lets roll back to the very start of the lfr setup. |
| 13:03.31 | BlackNet | rem when their favorite guild exploited that hard and heavy? |
| 13:04.13 | BlackNet | another point. you are on beta realm yes? |
| 13:04.34 | Maldivia | yeah, and LFR farming for initial raiding gear just got a lot easier |
| 13:04.49 | BlackNet | k how many bug tickets have you put in so far |
| 13:04.52 | cbreak-work | they made it even easier? How? |
| 13:05.03 | BlackNet | yea they are now catering to loot whores |
| 13:05.14 | cbreak-work | they removed need rolls? |
| 13:05.39 | BlackNet | yes |
| 13:05.50 | BlackNet | and you can do daily's and get luck tokens to use if your shit does not drop |
| 13:05.57 | Maldivia | cbreak-work: you run 25 people through once, then switch out one person at a time, then only one is eligable for loot from a boss, and need always give spec appropiate loot now |
| 13:05.58 | cbreak-work | ... |
| 13:06.30 | BlackNet | you dont see the epic design flaw in that? |
| 13:06.32 | cbreak-work | sounds like catering for raiding guilds |
| 13:06.45 | BlackNet | that to |
| 13:06.49 | cbreak-work | because you obviously need many people to pull that off |
| 13:06.56 | Maldivia | you need 25... |
| 13:07.02 | cbreak-work | (people willing to go through the drudgery repeatedly) |
| 13:07.03 | Maldivia | with 2 alts |
| 13:07.04 | BlackNet | a 25m guild with alts would do it |
| 13:07.13 | BlackNet | bring in the alts for the first run then one at a time after that |
| 13:07.51 | Fisker | poops |
| 13:08.38 | BlackNet | actually would not be that much if everyone in the group/guild has luck tokens |
| 13:09.36 | Maldivia | luck tokens have a chance to give gear, but most of the time it'll be gems or gold |
| 13:09.51 | Maldivia | or well, depends on how they tune it |
| 13:09.53 | BlackNet | the real problem they are hiding is the loot drop setup behind the scenes has fundamental flaws in it and they are not addressing the issue |
| 13:11.26 | BlackNet | but how many bug tickets have you put in so far? |
| 13:11.56 | Maldivia | well, havne't played MoP yet - so none... but I can see I have around 700 posts on the D3 beta bug forum... |
| 13:12.25 | BlackNet | k of those 700ish you have, how many have been addressed or even fixed? |
| 13:12.48 | Maldivia | well, of the actual bug reports amoung them, all but one |
| 13:13.42 | Maldivia | scratch that - there are two not fixed in the current build |
| 13:16.34 | BlackNet | looks like my new rifle will arrive in the mail tomorrow, wohoo |
| 13:19.54 | cbreak-work | rifles per mail? barbaric... |
| 13:20.09 | BlackNet | yea i bought a rifle and delivery is ups |
| 13:20.21 | cbreak-work | you should order bombs. |
| 13:20.38 | BlackNet | i do order explosive items as well |
| 13:21.48 | BlackNet | but then again compressed air is also classified the same way |
| 13:22.37 | cbreak-work | but air you don't have to order |
| 13:22.47 | cbreak-work | at least not here. |
| 13:22.56 | BlackNet | you are so clueless it's not funny |
| 13:23.15 | Shirik|Ghost | united trolling me ._. |
| 13:23.23 | Kalroth | haters gonna hate |
| 13:23.41 | Shirik|Ghost | wakes up at 6 AM, checks in for flight tomorrow @ 6 AM. Now 6:23, united sends me email "check in for your 6AM flight!" |
| 13:24.04 | BlackNet | they still ship the stuff regardless of where 'here' is |
| 13:24.25 | BlackNet | http://wetlands.simplyaquatics.com/v/weapons/BlackPowder/IMG_7672.JPG.html <<-- 25 pounds of explosives |
| 13:25.48 | Maldivia | Shirik: 6am... I would also be a ghost of myself then... |
| 13:28.33 | Shirik|Ghost | Maldivia: And I arrive at 5 PM :D |
| 13:29.03 | Maldivia | Shirik: what timezone difference between departure and arrival? |
| 13:29.35 | Shirik|Ghost | 3 |
| 13:29.43 | Shirik|Ghost | going pacific to east |
| 13:29.48 | Maldivia | ok |
| 13:32.39 | Maldivia | last time I had a 6am flight (well 5.55am actually), I was going Denmark -> Frankfurt -> San Francisco, and landed around 1pm PST (or 16 hours later) |
| 13:34.46 | Maldivia | Shirik: but how many layovers do you have for it to take 8 hours coast to coast!? |
| 13:40.41 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik likes to take detours. |
| 13:54.24 | Shirik|Ghost | Maldivia: I have a 45 minute layover |
| 13:55.28 | Shirik|Ghost | PDX 0600 > IAH 1208, IAH 1256 > BOS 1752 |
| 13:55.38 | Shirik|Ghost | so it's actually closer to 6 PM |
| 13:58.27 | Maldivia | Shirik: yeah, can see why it would take that long, when you take a detour 1000 miles south of your destination :P |
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| 14:00.42 | Shirik|Ghost | Maldivia: MORE MILEZ |
| 14:00.48 | Maldivia | more time |
| 14:00.56 | Shirik|Ghost | who cares I have nothing better to do |
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| 14:01.30 | Lopeppeppy | Next time get a layover in Albany, I'll take ya to lunch. *blows raspberries* |
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| 14:02.10 | Maldivia | doing a quick search, Ican see that united has direct flights PDX > BOS |
| 14:02.41 | Shirik|Ghost | MOOOOOOOOOOOOOREEEEEE MILEEEEEEEZZZZZZZ |
| 14:02.52 | Shirik|Ghost | I never take a direct flight |
| 14:03.04 | Shirik|Ghost | my favorite one was when I flew from PDX to SOF |
| 14:03.05 | Shirik|Ghost | SFO |
| 14:03.09 | Shirik|Ghost | and I first went up to Seattle |
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| 14:03.53 | Shirik|Ghost | I need to rack up 25k miles a year, at least. This year, I'm shooting for 50k, though 100k would be nice |
| 14:04.24 | Fisker | Shirik|Ghost |
| 14:04.25 | Maldivia | ... you must be a masochist or something... |
| 14:04.31 | Lopeppeppy | Crazy tuna. |
| 14:04.51 | Shirik|Ghost | by the end of next week I'll be at 30k |
| 14:05.13 | Maldivia | Shirik: next time, get a layover in Paris |
| 14:05.42 | Shirik|Ghost | that might be a little more expensive |
| 14:07.42 | Maldivia | but think of the miles earned... |
| 14:08.40 | Lopeppeppy | He's too tall to cram into a seat for an international turnaround flight. |
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| 14:10.04 | Maldivia | well, the international flights do have a bit more leg room |
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| 15:44.57 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 15:44.59 | Fisker | umadcow |
| 15:45.13 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 15:48.21 | Sintacks | mooo |
| 15:49.05 | Thunder_Child | needs more anger |
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| 16:37.00 | Fisker | hey Parnic |
| 16:37.02 | Fisker | i like you |
| 16:38.12 | Torhal|work | Fisker: Dubstep. |
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| 16:40.20 | Lopeppeppy | And you think I'm cruel, Torhal. |
| 16:41.05 | Torhal|work | Lopeppeppy: I said fear-inspiring. |
| 16:41.38 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. Dubstep is cruel. |
| 16:42.07 | Torhal|work | Apparently Fisker wants Dubstep in everything. |
| 16:42.22 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:42.36 | alestane | I thought he wanted trout in everything. |
| 16:42.46 | alestane | He certainly spreads them around enough. |
| 16:42.59 | Fisker | you can have both |
| 16:43.08 | Torhal|work | Trout PERFORMING Dubstep. |
| 16:43.13 | Torhal|work | twitches. |
| 16:43.44 | Lopeppeppy | eeew. |
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| 16:44.01 | Lopeppeppy | That hurts more than the fish porn I had inflicted on my innocent eyes once. |
| 16:44.07 | Torhal|work | ... |
| 16:44.15 | Torhal|work | slowly backs away from Lopeppeppy. |
| 16:44.22 | Torhal|work | makes the sign of the Cross. |
| 16:44.46 | bluspacecow | ?_? |
| 16:44.46 | Kraps_w | sounds hot |
| 16:44.49 | bluspacecow | fish porn ? |
| 16:45.02 | Kraps_w | is getting turned on |
| 16:45.03 | Lopeppeppy | My best friend won that particular escalation bet, by suceessfully making me cringe. |
| 16:45.55 | Fisker | whats wrong with fish porn all of the sudden |
| 16:46.22 | Kraps_w | idk Fisker, all these prudes in the channel |
| 16:46.49 | Torhal|work | "all of the sudden" <-- lulz |
| 16:47.10 | Fisker | i just want my Parnic back |
| 16:47.14 | Fisker | i think he might be dead |
| 16:47.16 | bluspacecow | *sneezes and Kraps_w clothes falls off* |
| 16:47.16 | bluspacecow | hello sailor |
| 16:47.27 | Torhal|work | Fisker: He's making sure Borderlands 2 has no Dubstep. |
| 16:47.38 | Fisker | i don't believe you |
| 16:47.41 | Kraps_w | waggles eyebrows at bluspacecow |
| 16:48.02 | Torhal|work | throws a WWI coat over Kraps_w. |
| 16:48.25 | bluspacecow | old son |
| 16:48.25 | bluspacecow | cup o |
| 16:48.25 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.25 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 16:48.25 | Fisker | why would he do such a thing? |
| 16:48.31 | Kraps_w | why WW1? |
| 16:48.51 | bluspacecow | >_> |
| 16:48.57 | bluspacecow | johnbarrowman |
| 16:50.30 | bluspacecow | "malcom solves his problems with a chainsaw .... and he never has the same problem twice" |
| 16:51.36 | Torhal|work | Fisker: Why so emo? |
| 16:52.06 | Lopeppeppy | I approve of this malcolm |
| 16:54.57 | Fisker | because i like Parnic Torhal|work |
| 17:01.01 | alestane | Khyranda always maintains that "A ten-pound sledgehammer solves all problems, as long as you're willing to address any new problems presented by its application." |
| 17:02.09 | Lopeppeppy | shop vac cleans up after the sledgehammer quite well. |
| 17:02.33 | Torhal|work | Shop Vac/steam-cleaner combo, go-go-go! |
| 17:02.56 | Lopeppeppy | With bleach, and there's no DNA evidence to worry about either. |
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| 17:04.05 | Lunessa | station |
| 17:04.06 | Lopeppeppy | ~staple Lunessa |
| 17:04.07 | purl | ACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples Lunessa quite well, and hands Lunessa to lopeppeppy |
| 17:04.14 | Kraps_w | whoa theres an RFA where the users irc use is a huge issue |
| 17:07.00 | Lopeppeppy | They're asking applicants for their Facebook login information, irc is more geeky, but I'm not too surprised someone thought of it. |
| 17:07.30 | Kraps_w | who is |
| 17:08.07 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.examiner.com/technology-in-national/list-of-employers-demanding-facebook-passwords-continues-to-grow |
| 17:08.26 | Lopeppeppy | That's just a google search result, you can find more if you look. |
| 17:08.31 | Kraps_w | is that allowed? |
| 17:08.42 | Lopeppeppy | It's against Facebook TOS, but there are no laws against it. |
| 17:09.27 | Arrowmaster | some michigan teacher or teachers assistant already got fired for refusing |
| 17:09.42 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. |
| 17:09.43 | Gnarfoz | lolol |
| 17:09.48 | Lunessa | There are currently no laws that prohibit this specific act, but it does open the can of worms about things US employers are not allowed to ask about, such as religion, sexual orientation, political affiliations, etc. |
| 17:09.54 | nevcairiel | seems like a happy day for people like me that are not on facebook! |
| 17:10.02 | Gnarfoz | or live in a sane country! |
| 17:10.05 | Gnarfoz | (or both) |
| 17:10.12 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt say sane |
| 17:10.14 | nevcairiel | just saner |
| 17:10.15 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly, Lunessa. That kind of thing is often visible on your Facebook postings. |
| 17:10.42 | Gnarfoz | there doesn't need to be a law for this, it's private information, why would I give it to my employer |
| 17:10.45 | Lunessa | Even if they are not publicly accessible. |
| 17:11.01 | Lunessa | Gnarfoz: that's an area of unsettled law. |
| 17:11.07 | Gnarfoz | maybe in your country o_O |
| 17:11.11 | Lopeppeppy | To prove you have nothing to hide, Gnarfoz. The employers are apparently quite manipulative and bullying about it. |
| 17:11.19 | Lunessa | Facebook is not your home, and not exactly secret. |
| 17:11.22 | bluspacecow | yeah |
| 17:11.25 | Arrowmaster | this is completely fictional but illustrates the point exactly http://raganwald.posterous.com/i-hereby-resign |
| 17:11.39 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: Yeah, exactly that. |
| 17:11.51 | Gnarfoz | I don't have facebook, but it doesn't have to be "my home" to be noy my employers business |
| 17:11.57 | bluspacecow | well i would tell them my FB pass word is "gotakethisjoband fuckingshoveit" |
| 17:11.57 | bluspacecow | then call my human rights lawyer . take em to the cleaners |
| 17:11.59 | Gnarfoz | *not |
| 17:12.33 | durcyn | you have a human rights lawyer on retainer, and you belive it applies to social networking credentials? |
| 17:12.41 | durcyn | they do things oddly in kiwiland. |
| 17:12.46 | Arrowmaster | if you are american just call the ACLU |
| 17:12.58 | bluspacecow | BRB |
| 17:13.01 | Gnarfoz | are they going to want your email logins, ssh keys, car keys next? ^^ |
| 17:13.20 | Lopeppeppy | Probably, Gnarfoz. Until someone does challenge the lack of clear law. |
| 17:13.24 | Arrowmaster | they can have my pgp key when they pry it from my cold dead fingers |
| 17:13.41 | Gnarfoz | pfff the things USA needs laws for *boggle* |
| 17:13.47 | Gnarfoz | (sorry^^) |
| 17:14.27 | Lopeppeppy | What was it that people said earlier, about looting? If there's no consequence for being a loot whore, people will be loot whores? |
| 17:14.30 | Lopeppeppy | Same thing. |
| 17:14.32 | Arrowmaster | well thats the thing, technically it should already be illegal to ask for access to your facebook, just need somebody to challenge them to get an offical court ruling on it |
| 17:15.20 | Lopeppeppy | Facebook might do it on their own behalf, Arrowmaster, just to get themselves out of any potential future lawsuit nightmares. |
| 17:16.23 | cogwheel | why are some people so bad at thinking? It's not like they're dumb, per se, they just don't spend any time considering the thoughts they come up with |
| 17:16.40 | Arrowmaster | thats the silly thing about american law, a court case is required to truly make it law in new situations |
| 17:16.52 | Gnarfoz | in light of this I find it most curious that USA is often touted as and in fact is advanced in many "new" technological ways when there's such an idiotic minefield of laws, lack of laws, and the entire "court rulings are extremely important" situation |
| 17:16.53 | Lunessa | because consequences of opening your mouth and saying dumb shit are low |
| 17:18.43 | alestane | It's sort of hard to argue that companies' right to privately refuse employment to anyone who won't share this access must be legally overturned or restricted, but it seems like a stupid practice and I sincerely hope that the labor market will make it clear that it is not acceptable. |
| 17:19.30 | alestane | That said, the job market is still tight and employers generally know that people will put up with greater infringements in order to get a job. |
| 17:19.37 | Gnarfoz | the hell I am |
| 17:19.43 | Gnarfoz | (but then, I don't live in the US) |
| 17:20.00 | Arrowmaster | id rather sue them and get paid than put up with it and get paid |
| 17:21.04 | Fisker | Umad? |
| 17:21.11 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, employers are passing it off as part of a "background check" |
| 17:21.28 | Torhal|work | ... |
| 17:21.32 | Fisker | I would request FB login details too |
| 17:21.49 | Fisker | Then delete their accounts |
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| 17:22.20 | Arrowmaster | they already preform background checks (not really, they just pay for access to lexus nexus database) |
| 17:24.04 | Ressy | Hooray for Canadian privacy laws? |
| 17:24.14 | Fisker | ? |
| 17:24.28 | Torhal|work | extradites Fisker to Antarctica. |
| 17:25.10 | Lopeppeppy | I'm moving to New Zealand with Zootfizzle. This place is crazy |
| 17:26.17 | Ressy | Canada has some strict privacy laws. http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2012/03/26/technology-facebook-job-seekers.html |
| 17:26.34 | Jamash | uh, I don't see why it's hard to argue that companies don't have the right to demand that you violate facebook's terms of service |
| 17:26.47 | Jamash | seems pretty easy to argue |
| 17:27.57 | Gnarfoz | how anyone could think that $service's ToS are what's saving you from having to reveal login information to privately used $service, is beyond me |
| 17:28.16 | Gnarfoz | or s/are/should be/ |
| 17:28.33 | Jamash | I'm not saying that that should be the only reason |
| 17:28.48 | Jamash | I'm just saying that it is a reason that's very easy to argue |
| 17:29.20 | nevcairiel | what part of the toc do you break? it doesnt allow account sharing or what? :P |
| 17:29.26 | Jamash | yes |
| 17:29.37 | nevcairiel | thats stupid in a toc to some social network, imho |
| 17:29.38 | Lunessa | Again, like the link Arrowmaster pointed out, the information that can be revealed from browsing someone's non-public Facebook data can cause a huge liability for employers who demand access to it. |
| 17:29.44 | nevcairiel | tos* |
| 17:29.47 | Gnarfoz | certainly, but from what I understand, it's the only thing that *COULD* currently save people |
| 17:29.57 | Jamash | Gnarfoz: I was responding to alestane> "It's sort of hard to argue that companies' right to privately refuse employment to anyone who won't share this access must be legally overturned or restricted" |
| 17:29.59 | Lunessa | That and having a spine. |
| 17:30.21 | nevcairiel | I wouldnt want to work for anyone that has rules like that anyway |
| 17:30.26 | nevcairiel | even though i dont even have facebook |
| 17:30.36 | Lopeppeppy | A spine is expensive when you need a job. True story. |
| 17:30.38 | Jamash | my point is that it's extremely easy to argue from any number of perspectives, the TOS one being simple and easy |
| 17:30.55 | Gnarfoz | Lopeppeppy: desk jobs destroy spines, literally |
| 17:30.57 | Jamash | the civil rights and privacy one being (unfortunately) harder for people to grasp |
| 17:30.58 | Dagmar | I'm seriously considering just blaming Facebook and calling it a day |
| 17:31.10 | Dagmar | They were very sneaky about their last policy changes. |
| 17:31.11 | nevcairiel | thats always a good solution |
| 17:31.15 | Jamash | Facebook has stated publicly that doing such is a violation of their TOS actually |
| 17:31.34 | Dagmar | Yeah, well, from what I can tell it *used* to be the case. |
| 17:31.40 | nevcairiel | and what happens if you violate it? As if Facebook would risk banning people. :P |
| 17:32.18 | Dagmar | What they have up for terms and conditions _now_ mentions you're not supposed to give your password to others, but only in a sort of mealy-mouthed way, and it no longer specifically ties that to revocation of your rights to the account like it used to |
| 17:32.54 | Dagmar | Now it even goes so far as to say that if they find out you're sharing your password, _they'll send an email to you_ about it. |
| 17:33.03 | nevcairiel | well giving passwords to others or just logging yourself in and handing the keyboard over are still different things |
| 17:33.05 | Dagmar | Frankly, I think some money changed hands. |
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| 17:33.26 | Jamash | I'm saying that a prospective employer who wants you to believe that their contracts are legally binding is entering a very dubious legal area by asking you to violate another company's contract |
| 17:33.33 | Dagmar | nevcariel: both amount to granting someone who is not you access to an account which previously was only authorized for your use alone. |
| 17:33.48 | Dagmar | The latter would be easier to argue was being done under "duress' tho |
| 17:34.01 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 17:34.03 | Dagmar | My passwords for everything, for anyone who wants them, are now "suckmyc0ck" |
| 17:34.04 | Fisker | pls nevcairiel |
| 17:34.07 | Fisker | does your chrome work? |
| 17:34.15 | nevcairiel | of course my chrome works |
| 17:34.20 | Fisker | i.e. can you update to newest dev channel? |
| 17:34.33 | nevcairiel | i use beta channel |
| 17:35.27 | Lunessa | brb hacking Dagmar's facebook |
| 17:35.47 | Lopeppeppy | goes to help Lunessa. This sounds fun. |
| 17:35.54 | Dagmar | Good luck with that |
| 17:35.55 | Fisker | Stanzilla |
| 17:35.59 | Fisker | udevchanneling bro? |
| 17:36.03 | Lunessa | Oh man… It's all BRONY stuff. |
| 17:36.11 | Dagmar | There might be some uppercase characters in there--I know you're supposed to use uppercase. |
| 17:36.26 | Dagmar | If that doesn't work, maybe if you added some exclamation points. |
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| 17:37.46 | Jamash | steve "thinks he's so smart" gibson wants you to use passwords like "imsosecure,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,," |
| 17:38.15 | Humbedooh | hah, that's just like my mom - new password you say? I'll just add a 1 to the old one! |
| 17:38.27 | Arrowmaster | i do that |
| 17:38.32 | Jamash | on the idiotic basis that nobody would ever program that sort of trick into a password guessing system |
| 17:38.35 | Humbedooh | "Can you remember if this site used 111 or 111111, honey?" |
| 17:39.08 | Jamash | yeah good luck remembering the max password length for every site you have an account on |
| 17:39.18 | nevcairiel | its only a few trys |
| 17:39.23 | nevcairiel | not that bad |
| 17:39.25 | Dagmar | I'm thinking if I gussied it up with enough leetspeak I could keep a pinheaded authoritarian typing variations on "IsuCkD0nk3yC4wkz" for a half hour or more |
| 17:39.29 | Arrowmaster | stupid password policy at my college resulted in me using the same password over and over but every time they forced me to change it i incremented the number at the end |
| 17:39.39 | Arrowmaster | i went from 00 to 20+ |
| 17:40.09 | Jamash | I use passwords like "wdvwFNyJmKLA1Ef-6-mTm9dT" |
| 17:40.36 | nevcairiel | we have an equally annoying policy at work, every 90 days gotta change your password, so i just take the static part of the password and append one special character at the end, and usually write that one down because otherwise i forget. :P |
| 17:40.51 | nevcairiel | (the extra character, not the password) |
| 17:41.16 | Lunessa | We have a 120-day period. You know, long enough that the password becomes a habit. |
| 17:41.18 | Jamash | 1. get an encrypted password manager, 2. put said manager on a usb key, 3. profit |
| 17:41.38 | nevcairiel | doesnt work all that well with windows logins |
| 17:41.50 | Torhal|work | [12:25:10] <+Lopeppeppy> I'm moving to New Zealand with Zootfizzle. This place is crazy <-- I thought Zoot disappeared a couple of years ago. |
| 17:41.52 | Dagmar | Cheat it. |
| 17:41.58 | Dagmar | Memorize a list of 20 passwords. |
| 17:42.11 | Dagmar | Every time you have to change them, cycle them all down by one in the list. |
| 17:42.32 | Dagmar | "Hey look at me, updating all my passwords at once all regular-like!" |
| 17:42.39 | Lunessa | Zoot's still around in the world, just not in regular contact with this lot. |
| 17:45.05 | Jamash | anyone so paranoid that they want you to change your password multiple times a year should invest in security tokens |
| 17:45.52 | blufailcow | [05:41] <Torhal|work> [12:25:10] <+Lopeppeppy> I'm moving to New Zealand <---- GASP! |
| 17:46.17 | Torhal|work | blufailcow: You'd BETTER gasp. She's SCARY. |
| 17:46.33 | Torhal|work | Burns shit with non-flammable liquids! |
| 17:46.40 | Kraps_w | funny that paypal didnt make old users change their pws to have a capital letter and punctuation when they put that it |
| 17:47.14 | Kraps_w | in |
| 17:51.26 | Dagmar | Probably because a lot of them are sending in emails like 'DEAR SIRS, PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT YOU MEAN BY 'CAPITAL LETTERS'." |
| 17:52.31 | zenzelezz | also because 90% of young people don't know what punctuation is |
| 17:53.12 | Dagmar | It's the thing that will keep you alive for another few minutes, if I ever become Grand Emperor of Earth. |
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| 17:57.28 | Torhal|work | zenzelezz: I find it amusing that you mentioned punctuation in a sentence where none was used. |
| 17:58.03 | Mikk | Kraps_w: "Secret." is so much harder to crack than "secret" |
| 17:58.12 | Mikk | ok you might have to try "Secret!" too |
| 17:58.14 | Mikk | so half speed |
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| 18:00.29 | zenzelezz | Torhal|work: I acknowledge your point; but that's my IRC habit. Initial letter of first sentence lowercase, punctuation everywhere but after the final sentence. Doesn't make sense, but as I said, habit |
| 18:01.23 | Lopeppeppy | blufailcow, you'd better fluff up some pillows. And IIRC, Zoot snores, so buy earplugs! A snoring gnome is a fierce foe. |
| 18:02.22 | blufailcow | -____- |
| 18:02.27 | Torhal|work | zenzelezz: Oh, I know and I wasn't making fun. I just found it amusing. >) |
| 18:03.14 | zenzelezz | Torhal|work: :) It's something I've pondered many times; but it's like with my English pronunciation... I'd like it to be more British, but it's much too late to try to change that :-p |
| 18:03.34 | Torhal|work | Hehe |
| 18:05.19 | Lopeppeppy | Nuh uh. Just start using more "u"s |
| 18:05.32 | Lopeppeppy | Colour. Boout. Aboout. Lorrie. |
| 18:05.36 | blufailcow | *flups Torhal's Hair* |
| 18:08.03 | Torhal|work | flips a table. |
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| 18:10.35 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: I do make my spelling as British as I can remember to, but the pronunciation would just sound pretentious |
| 18:11.27 | Lopeppeppy | Strangers admire my Irish accent a lot, zenzelezz. I'd admire if more if they could tell me where it comes from. :) |
| 18:11.39 | Lopeppeppy | Or the southern drawl, that one is cool. |
| 18:13.56 | Torhal|work | Lopeppeppy: T'would be even cooler if you could do them simultaneously. |
| 18:15.38 | Lopeppeppy | Do I have to get the Mad Dog back out? |
| 18:16.38 | Torhal|work | You have MORE? |
| 18:16.42 | Torhal|work | Dafuq?!? |
| 18:16.57 | blufailcow | MAUW |
| 18:17.39 | Lopeppeppy | That crap grows on trees up here in Redneck Country, Torhal. We have 4 colleges in 15 miles. |
| 18:18.58 | Torhal|work | Should I be concerned that you have more rednecks around you than I do, when I live in a Southern State out in the country? |
| 18:19.33 | Lopeppeppy | I live in a Northern State. Yankee rednecks are the worst. |
| 18:20.00 | Torhal|work | I was born up North, but I always thought the rednecks came from down where I am now. |
| 18:20.49 | Seerah | No, there are bfe spots up north, too, with rednecks |
| 18:20.50 | Jamash | panda panda panda panda |
| 18:20.55 | Lopeppeppy | Oh no. I grew up in a county where there's still subsistence living, those are some good rednecks. |
| 18:20.59 | Seerah | though I see your confusion, living in a southern state now myself |
| 18:21.25 | alestane | Thank you for that dose of randomness, Jamash. |
| 18:21.51 | Jamash | I'm logging in to the beta |
| 18:22.10 | blufailcow | PANDA PANDA PANDA PANDA MUSHROOM MUSHROOM! |
| 18:22.21 | Lopeppeppy | Badger, you fool! |
| 18:22.25 | Jamash | see blusomethingcow gets it |
| 18:22.27 | Lopeppeppy | A snaaaaake! |
| 18:22.38 | blufailcow | oooooooo a snaaaaaaaaaaaake |
| 18:22.47 | alestane | llamallamallamaduck? |
| 18:23.00 | Lopeppeppy | HAWHNK! |
| 18:23.13 | Lopeppeppy | That was a Boston goose telling you to GTFO his lawn. |
| 18:23.21 | blufailcow | *honks peppy's nose* |
| 18:23.24 | blufailcow | oh |
| 18:23.37 | blufailcow | i thought it was the sound of the boston red sox clown mascot honking his nose |
| 18:25.18 | Lopeppeppy | It's the deformed goose that lived in the pond near alestane and I when I lived where I lived when I lived near alestane. |
| 18:25.53 | alestane | You were way closer to the pond then I was. |
| 18:26.00 | alestane | Or even am. |
| 18:26.04 | Lopeppeppy | You are NOT that far away at all. |
| 18:26.29 | alestane | Although we will, if all goes well, be much further from that pond soon (and closer to another one)/ |
| 18:26.46 | alestane | You were like two blocks from it! |
| 18:27.42 | Torhal|work | Seerah: Yah, I realized a few months ago that you live close enough to me that I should be wary of pissing you off as well! |
| 18:27.53 | Seerah | oh? :) |
| 18:28.00 | Torhal|work | Huntsville :) |
| 18:28.14 | Torhal|work | So you're not too far. |
| 18:28.30 | Seerah | that's right. yep :) |
| 18:28.36 | Lunessa | Haha…. I have trouble imaging Seerah ever being angry enough to drive just to hurt you. |
| 18:28.44 | Seerah | nah, not that far... |
| 18:28.45 | Lopeppeppy | Nobody lives near me anymore, but alestane will move closer! |
| 18:28.54 | Lunessa | Bring you cookies maybe. But hurt you? No. She'd make Wayne do that. |
| 18:28.59 | Lopeppeppy | Do not piss off the gnomish female, she will thump you good. |
| 18:28.59 | Torhal|work | Heh |
| 18:29.00 | alestane | Yep! You comes to our housewarming, I hope. |
| 18:29.09 | Lopeppeppy | I will come. |
| 18:29.44 | alestane | Should be in the middle of summer, so maybe the craziness will be slightly less at your work. Maybe. |
| 18:30.47 | blufailcow | kk i go homes now |
| 18:35.39 | Lopeppeppy | Or maybe I'll be at Pennsic! *le gasp* |
| 18:35.51 | Jamash | I wonder if I can write a dump macro to replicate the core of my addon |
| 18:36.06 | Torhal|work | o.O |
| 18:36.08 | Jamash | I blame cogwheel. |
| 18:36.58 | Jamash | it's really useful on beta |
| 18:38.25 | Jamash | man I'm sure these monk statues won't get annoying when people spam them in the auction house |
| 18:39.44 | Fisker | Jamash |
| 18:40.43 | Jamash | Jamash |
| 18:42.22 | Lopeppeppy | People would never be annoying spambot jerks, Jamash. Have some faith. |
| 18:42.28 | Lopeppeppy | eyes Fisker narrowly. |
| 18:43.20 | alestane | If it starts and the end of July, peppy, I think we'll hold it before then. |
| 18:43.46 | alestane | We're currently aiming to be completely out of our current place by the end of June. |
| 18:43.59 | Lopeppeppy | You'd better best, or you'll have to have a private one for me. *serious nod* |
| 18:44.17 | alestane | I will hold a private party for Peppy any time you care to name ;) |
| 18:44.30 | Torhal|work | NAO? |
| 18:44.31 | Torhal|work | :D |
| 18:44.47 | Lopeppeppy | He said private, Torhal, you're out of luck. |
| 18:45.15 | Torhal|work | I was asking for you. |
| 18:45.22 | Torhal|work | I'm too tired for a party. |
| 18:45.28 | Torhal|work | Just waiting to go home! |
| 18:45.32 | Lopeppeppy | ... broken! |
| 18:46.12 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy |
| 18:49.32 | Lunessa | http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/04/yutyrannus-huali-feathers/ - "It’s not your father’s tyrannosaur: …" |
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| 18:50.39 | Fisker | Lunessa |
| 18:50.48 | Lopeppeppy | I know, it's that neat Lunessa? |
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| 18:51.53 | Lunessa | Yes, it's very exciting. |
| 18:52.28 | Torhal|work | A frenzied feathered Fisker has appeared! |
| 18:52.50 | Lopeppeppy | I've been interested in the studies that are showing how diseases are affected by climate - winds helping spread the flu virus, for example. |
| 18:54.08 | Dagmar | Like new Fox affiliates spreading Santorum campaign signs and stuff |
| 18:55.26 | Lopeppeppy | No, that's usually direct contact, people not washing their hands and using their pepper spray enough. |
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| 19:02.19 | Kraps_w | oh snap |
| 19:03.17 | Kraps_w | regean didnt win iowa so it doesnt matter |
| 19:05.24 | Arrowmaster | http://store.steampowered.com/app/92800/ |
| 19:05.32 | Arrowmaster | if you dont already have it, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU! |
| 19:05.39 | Kraps_w | what is it |
| 19:07.38 | Kraps_w | what is it |
| 19:07.45 | Arrowmaster | SpaceChem |
| 19:08.13 | Kraps_w | oh |
| 19:08.20 | Kraps_w | its hard :( |
| 19:08.22 | Arrowmaster | on sale now on steam |
| 19:08.23 | Jamash | I like that zen master enchanter requires 500 blacksmithing skill |
| 19:08.57 | Arrowmaster | i think i might have an extra steam key for spacechem still from humble bundle |
| 19:09.03 | Jamash | I played the demo of spacechem and it was cool but I don't think I need the full game |
| 19:09.41 | Dagmar | For less effort you can come up with a new synthetic to sprinkle on gerbil chips and sell in gas stations at $50/oz |
| 19:10.24 | Kaylin | But think of the gerbils where will they sleep! |
| 19:11.02 | starlon | I vote they sleep outside. |
| 19:11.58 | starlon | <-- cold hearted gerbil hater |
| 19:13.03 | Lopeppeppy | Guinea pig chips are bigger and easier to process. |
| 19:17.24 | Torhal|work | You can haz capybara instead, Lopeppeppy. |
| 19:17.51 | Lopeppeppy | Never eaten a capy. Hmm. |
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| 19:31.37 | Fisker | wanna fool around blu ? |
| 19:31.39 | Fisker | damnit |
| 19:31.42 | Fisker | wanna fool around kd3 ? |
| 19:32.02 | kd3 | not really; being sicks kinda puts dampers on things |
| 19:32.16 | Kraps_w | what |
| 19:32.23 | kd3 | s/sicks/sick/ |
| 19:32.32 | Kraps_w | heres your chance to make fisker sick |
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| 19:40.41 | cogwheel | ding 2 highly rated posts <.< |
| 19:41.30 | cogwheel | Fisker: wut u gonna do about it? |
| 19:41.33 | zenzelezz | grats; and where? |
| 19:41.57 | Torhal|work | cogwheel: You can't stop him. |
| 19:42.09 | olafski_ | I seem to recall a blue poster mentioning something about the D3 RMAH, and only being able to have a certain number of auctions up at the same time.. did I make that up? can't find anything about it now :/ |
| 19:42.10 | Torhal|work | I know - I read it on teh Intarwebz. |
| 19:42.26 | cogwheel | http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/4253902958?page=1#1 |
| 19:42.46 | cogwheel | olafski_: 10 item limit instead of listing fees |
| 19:43.07 | olafski_ | cool :) do you happen to know where that was said? I'm trying to convince a guildie |
| 19:43.13 | cogwheel | looking |
| 19:43.35 | Fisker | cogwheel umvp? |
| 19:43.46 | Torhal|work | Oh, you |
| 19:43.47 | Lopeppeppy | giggles insanely |
| 19:44.00 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 19:44.36 | Fisker | so basically highly rated posted get light-colored shit stains cogwheel |
| 19:44.37 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 19:44.44 | cogwheel | yep |
| 19:44.51 | Fisker | uglad? |
| 19:45.04 | olafski | got it cogwheel, thanks :) |
| 19:45.06 | Fisker | btw cogwheel |
| 19:45.08 | Fisker | wrong wrong wrong |
| 19:45.13 | Fisker | wrong wrong wrong |
| 19:45.26 | Fisker | Bashiok's post doesn't mention the base difficulty will be the same |
| 19:45.26 | Fisker | :3 |
| 19:45.40 | cogwheel | huh? |
| 19:45.47 | Fisker | in inferno |
| 19:46.07 | Torhal|work | I set up you the bomb, Fisker. |
| 19:46.09 | Torhal|work | Believe. |
| 19:46.28 | cogwheel | Previously, Inferno difficulty was mlvl 61 across all of Inferno, and now it starts at mlvl 61 and ramps up quickly in Act I and ends somewhere around 65 (?) in Act IV. We've only increased the difficulty. |
| 19:46.33 | cogwheel | http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/4254464832?page=12#227 |
| 19:46.36 | cogwheel | BAM! |
| 19:46.47 | Fisker | you forgot something cogwheel |
| 19:46.58 | Fisker | here's a number |
| 19:47.00 | Fisker | 5 |
| 19:47.07 | Fisker | here's another number |
| 19:47.08 | Fisker | 10 |
| 19:47.23 | Fisker | which one is hardest? |
| 19:47.29 | cogwheel | 7 |
| 19:47.39 | Fisker | yep |
| 19:47.41 | mikma | who has two thumbs and doesn't give a crap? mikma. |
| 19:47.43 | Fisker | arbitrary numbers = useless |
| 19:47.44 | Arrowmaster | i wonder what kinda loot you would get if you started at the beginning of inferno and when to the end of it killing every boss and champ pack you could find without changing skills |
| 19:47.50 | Fisker | not for long mikma |
| 19:48.12 | Arrowmaster | in one sitting |
| 19:48.27 | Arrowmaster | unless there is a limit to how high the vapor buff stacks |
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| 19:54.11 | Fisker | shoves cogwheel |
| 19:54.45 | Kaylin | binds cogwheel. |
| 19:54.59 | Fisker | punches and stabs cogwheel |
| 19:56.58 | Fisker | so cogwheel |
| 19:56.58 | Fisker | can you stop the beat? |
| 19:58.27 | mikma | he can stop beating you, but he does not do so. |
| 19:59.22 | cogwheel | why would i stop the beat? I'm a wannabe drummer! |
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| 19:59.50 | cogwheel | u|Jelly| ? |
| 19:59.59 | |Jelly| | nou |
| 20:01.11 | Fisker | cogwheelarang |
| 20:01.12 | cogwheel | Fisker: see? http://www.rockband.com/event/score/cogwheel42/55485416 me so wannabe |
| 20:01.34 | Fisker | no thanks cogwheel |
| 20:01.35 | Fisker | :( |
| 20:09.38 | Lunessa | No, I am Sparticus! |
| 20:12.21 | Lopeppeppy | I'm the Batman |
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| 20:14.01 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/5C0py |
| 20:14.52 | zenzelezz | amusing, but I don't believe that's how the transporters work |
| 20:15.33 | cogwheel | *in a hushed, gravelly voice* I'm cogwheel |
| 20:15.53 | Lunessa | WHERE ARE THEY! |
| 20:15.57 | Lunessa | ? |
| 20:21.04 | Lopeppeppy | Tee hee hee |
| 20:21.31 | Fisker | why is william shitner the best? |
| 20:21.37 | Fisker | he doesn't shit anymore |
| 20:21.41 | Fisker | so should've been william shatner |
| 20:23.23 | zenzelezz | Shatner is overrated; no-one bests Patrick Stewart |
| 20:23.35 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 20:23.45 | Lopeppeppy | Make it so. |
| 20:24.18 | Fisker | scott bakula best enterprise captain |
| 20:24.59 | Lunessa | Heritics. |
| 20:24.59 | Lopeppeppy | No. The beagle wins. |
| 20:25.02 | Lunessa | Heathens. |
| 20:25.05 | alestane | http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2001/10/15 |
| 20:25.09 | Lunessa | COMMUNISTS. |
| 20:25.16 | Arrowmaster | beagle > fish |
| 20:26.12 | Lopeppeppy | Spot the cat. |
| 20:33.19 | Adys | kd3, Cairenn|afk: your ids on mop serv? |
| 20:33.29 | Adys | actually whats the guild name? |
| 20:33.44 | kd3 | I'm "Kaydeethree" in beta max on the pve server |
| 20:33.47 | Cairenn|afk | Not set up yet |
| 20:34.00 | Adys | kd3: which ones that, lost isles? |
| 20:34.04 | kd3 | iirc yah |
| 20:34.05 | Arrowmaster | mop server support battletags? |
| 20:34.07 | Cairenn|afk | But I'm Cairenn, per usual |
| 20:34.09 | kd3 | nope |
| 20:34.20 | Cairenn|afk | I'm on the PvE server |
| 20:34.39 | Adys | i finally got everything working under wine |
| 20:34.45 | Cairenn|afk | excellent |
| 20:34.51 | kd3 | including the updater? |
| 20:34.54 | Adys | yup |
| 20:34.55 | kd3 | o_O |
| 20:35.03 | kd3 | looks through wine-devel |
| 20:35.07 | Adys | no patch yet |
| 20:35.16 | Adys | just been going through things with a dev |
| 20:35.28 | Arrowmaster | get the d3 launcher working too? |
| 20:35.42 | Adys | soon |
| 20:35.55 | Adys | so i hear mop is boring? |
| 20:36.21 | Cairenn | I've got the charters bought, just haven't done anything about getting them signed and registered, because we don't seem to be reaching a consensus on the names. I may just say screw it and go with the two temp ones I've currently got them under |
| 20:36.32 | Adys | Cairenn: gists of pandaria |
| 20:36.33 | Adys | DO IT |
| 20:36.50 | Cairenn | Code Blue? Code Blew! |
| 20:36.50 | Cairenn | Code Red? Code Dead! |
| 20:36.59 | kd3 | lol |
| 20:37.11 | TC-Work | Adys: do you really want it to be GoP? |
| 20:37.12 | Cairenn | (except, of course, that you can't use punctuation in them) |
| 20:37.21 | Adys | TC-Work: I now withdraw my proposal |
| 20:37.30 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 20:37.45 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: Burden of Competence |
| 20:38.30 | Cairenn | Others that have been suggested: |
| 20:38.34 | Cairenn | Taint It Black |
| 20:38.39 | Cairenn | I didn't do it |
| 20:38.43 | kd3 | ahaha, that wins right there |
| 20:38.46 | Cairenn | Beta Testers Anon |
| 20:38.53 | Cairenn | No Addons Allowed |
| 20:38.56 | Arrowmaster | Blame Cogwheel |
| 20:38.57 | Cairenn | I play vanilla |
| 20:39.11 | Cairenn | My main is only for testing |
| 20:39.16 | Adys | that wont fit |
| 20:39.17 | Cairenn | AddOns Not Yet In |
| 20:39.27 | Cairenn | Join my group so I can test raid units |
| 20:39.34 | Cairenn | I see Dead AddOns |
| 20:39.38 | zenzelezz | could go with "Access Violation" and "Illegal Instruction" |
| 20:39.53 | Cairenn | Undead addon authors |
| 20:39.57 | Adys | i always liked the idea of a pair of guild names that fit together :) |
| 20:40.08 | Arrowmaster | what was the guild name that the devs stole |
| 20:40.15 | Cairenn | Smart Button, Dumb Player |
| 20:40.22 | Cairenn | Player vs AddOn |
| 20:40.27 | Cairenn | Macromancy For All |
| 20:40.30 | Cairenn | Stronly Typed |
| 20:40.39 | Lunessa | Illegal Instruction |
| 20:40.46 | Cairenn | No Strings Attached |
| 20:40.50 | cogwheel | Laziness Impatience Hubris |
| 20:40.51 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: are you echoing me? |
| 20:40.57 | Cairenn | Untainted Global |
| 20:41.07 | Adys | Cairenn: I like no strings attached |
| 20:41.11 | Cairenn | Hardware Event |
| 20:41.15 | Cairenn | Tainted Execution |
| 20:41.22 | Lunessa | Bah, I read slowly and missed you zenzelezz |
| 20:41.36 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 20:41.51 | Lunessa | Lua not LUA |
| 20:41.55 | zenzelezz | haha |
| 20:42.05 | kd3 | eesh-- a pic from the DFW tornados-- "This is my house the morning after the tornado...this is not my car.": http://i.imgur.com/wsneG.jpg |
| 20:42.05 | Cairenn | Soup and Crackers |
| 20:42.22 | Mr_Rabies | Pls update addon |
| 20:42.25 | Adys | kd3: sweet, free car |
| 20:42.30 | Kaylin | C0000000005 would be a great name for a D3 guild |
| 20:42.34 | Lunessa | No TOC No Load |
| 20:42.36 | Mr_Rabies | Pls upgrade 2 ace |
| 20:42.51 | Adys | Cairenn: +1 on No Strings Attached, |
| 20:43.08 | Lunessa | Buffer Overflow |
| 20:43.18 | Lunessa | We Crash Servers |
| 20:43.28 | Lunessa | Its not a bug |
| 20:43.30 | zenzelezz | if you want paired names, you could go with Buffer Overflow and Buffer Underflow |
| 20:43.33 | Lunessa | Feature |
| 20:43.33 | zenzelezz | *Underrun |
| 20:43.38 | Arrowmaster | whats the guild name length limit |
| 20:43.43 | Adys | 14 chars |
| 20:43.47 | Adys | er |
| 20:44.06 | zenzelezz | at least 22 |
| 20:44.17 | Adys | yeah sorry, its 24 |
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| 20:44.57 | Cairenn | You guys decide on two and I'll change the name on the charters and start getting sigs |
| 20:45.18 | Lunessa | is still waiting for a beta invite. *le sigh* |
| 20:46.19 | Adys | Cairenn: No Strings Attached and, for the pair, I propose No Exception |
| 20:47.13 | zenzelezz | Uncaught Exception |
| 20:47.22 | Cairenn | I kind of liked the whole Code Blue, Code Red thing, since that also takes into account the two 'sides', since Alliance is always shown as 'blue' and Horde is 'red', but I'm not sold on them |
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| 20:47.42 | nevcairiel | now all you have to do is mix them up! |
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| 20:47.52 | Adys | I like it too but its better with punctuation =/ |
| 20:47.57 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: now you say that after having us spam suggestions for 15 minutes |
| 20:47.57 | Cairenn | Yup |
| 20:48.10 | Cairenn | Wish they'd allow it, too |
| 20:48.14 | Cairenn | zenzelezz: :p |
| 20:48.15 | zenzelezz | I bet you just wanted the IRC log so you could show your friends how nerdy we are |
| 20:48.18 | Arrowmaster | they used to |
| 20:48.21 | Cairenn | lol |
| 20:48.23 | Arrowmaster | then somebody created a bunny |
| 20:48.29 | Cairenn | no, I was just throwing suggested out there |
| 20:48.30 | Adys | I still have the screenshot |
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| 20:48.39 | Arrowmaster | i dont, post it |
| 20:49.02 | Cairenn | I don't recall it, so .... |
| 20:49.18 | Adys | yes, but you guys forget I'm awesome |
| 20:49.23 | Adys | http://i.imgur.com/n9kNb.jpg |
| 20:49.30 | Cairenn | ooooh |
| 20:49.32 | Cairenn | right |
| 20:49.35 | kd3 | hahaha |
| 20:49.40 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 20:49.49 | nevcairiel | someone always has to ruin it for everyone else, don't they |
| 20:49.58 | nevcairiel | and this time it wasnt even cogwheel |
| 20:49.59 | Adys | yes, damn those evil bunnies |
| 20:50.02 | Cairenn | That's actually rather cute, dunno why Blizz had a problem with it |
| 20:50.28 | Arrowmaster | from what i remember did some nefarious things to actually create that |
| 20:50.36 | Adys | Cairenn: BUT PEOPLE MIGHT COMMUNICATE BETWEEN HORDE AND ALLIANCE THROUGH GUILD TAGS |
| 20:50.43 | Cairenn | Adys: lol |
| 20:50.54 | nevcairiel | so form a new guild to communicate a few words? |
| 20:50.56 | nevcairiel | efficient! |
| 20:51.00 | nevcairiel | also, that still works |
| 20:51.00 | nevcairiel | :p |
| 20:51.12 | Adys | yes but you need punctuation in order to be a gentleman |
| 20:51.17 | Cairenn | pick two names guys! a consensus of some form! |
| 20:51.28 | Adys | Cairenn: No Strings Attached + No Exception is my vote :P |
| 20:51.34 | Kaylin | <adam> <steve> |
| 20:51.41 | nevcairiel | i only vote when someone creates EU guilds |
| 20:51.48 | nevcairiel | otherwise i don't give a damn. :P |
| 20:51.54 | Cairenn | nevcairiel: EU and US can play together |
| 20:52.05 | nevcairiel | i can only copy chars to the EU server |
| 20:52.06 | Cairenn | I was able to create chars on the eu server |
| 20:52.07 | nevcairiel | so there! |
| 20:52.14 | Cairenn | copy, yes, play, no |
| 20:52.16 | Adys | Cairenn: you cannot copy your main to the us one |
| 20:52.18 | Adys | but yea |
| 20:52.28 | nevcairiel | pandas are boring |
| 20:52.30 | Cairenn | still can play together |
| 20:52.32 | nevcairiel | their animations are all broken |
| 20:52.47 | nevcairiel | stupid male panda doesnt have an auto-attack animation yet |
| 20:52.50 | nevcairiel | its confusing the hell out of me |
| 20:53.12 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: it doesn't do melee, only psychic attacks |
| 20:53.21 | Arrowmaster | odd, i thought they had full animations when i played it at blizzcon |
| 20:53.29 | Adys | same |
| 20:53.31 | Lunessa | Fuck, fuck,fuckitty-fuck fuck. I have to re-shoot ALL of these images. - another day shot to fucking hell. |
| 20:53.38 | Cairenn | :( |
| 20:53.38 | nevcairiel | maybe it broke some time |
| 20:53.41 | nevcairiel | wait |
| 20:53.43 | Mr_Rabies | they didn't have autoattack at blizzcon, did they? |
| 20:53.46 | Cairenn | rubs Lunessa's shoulders |
| 20:53.47 | nevcairiel | at blizzcon pandas didnt have autoattack |
| 20:53.51 | Arrowmaster | i dont remember |
| 20:53.56 | Adys | oh yeah |
| 20:53.56 | Arrowmaster | i guess they didnt |
| 20:53.57 | Mr_Rabies | well, i guess nonmonk pandas would have autoattack though |
| 20:54.05 | nevcairiel | i only played a monk |
| 20:54.06 | Arrowmaster | yeah i only played a monk |
| 20:54.07 | Adys | but that was by design |
| 20:54.07 | Lunessa | They didn't. Had to mash the buttons like an 80s arcade game |
| 20:54.09 | Adys | why'd they remove it? |
| 20:54.14 | nevcairiel | and it didnt have autoattack animations |
| 20:54.20 | Mr_Rabies | it felt weird apparently |
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| 20:56.19 | Fisker | Hello |
| 20:56.56 | Adys | kd3: haha |
| 20:57.07 | kd3 | ? |
| 20:57.10 | Adys | kd3: "In the general case running the game under something like Valgrind would have been useful, but for something as heavy as Crysis 2 that's probably not realistic." |
| 20:57.24 | kd3 | lmao |
| 20:57.42 | Adys | crysis under valgrind under wine, who's up for it? |
| 20:57.50 | haste | haha |
| 20:57.53 | Arrowmaster | 1 or 2? |
| 20:58.57 | Adys | 2 |
| 20:59.09 | Adys | kd3, haste: the funny part is it's to debug a performance hit |
| 20:59.22 | haste | I hope you find it :) |
| 20:59.59 | Arrowmaster | Adys: while your at it make it so i can run d3 with full physics without getting performance problems |
| 21:00.09 | haste | someone should fix the dual core thingy the russian guy has been working on |
| 21:00.25 | haste | it works really well for WoW at least :P |
| 21:00.31 | Adys | haste: theres two very different patches |
| 21:00.41 | Adys | the russian guy's patches are just gl hard-optimizations |
| 21:00.43 | Fisker | A |
| 21:00.51 | Adys | the other patch implements dual core |
| 21:01.08 | haste | use both the patches! :D |
| 21:01.10 | Adys | thats been sent to wine, I don't remember why it wasn't accepted. needs improvements and tests i think |
| 21:01.14 | Adys | USE ALL THE PATCHES |
| 21:01.42 | haste | I only use 9 patches :( |
| 21:01.58 | haste | oh wait, five :D |
| 21:02.02 | Adys | which? |
| 21:02.17 | Arrowmaster | i use 0 because im too lazy to build it myself |
| 21:02.37 | haste | bug-12453_patch-24812, bug-27657-and-28898, bug-26835_patch-35577, bug-28282_patch-37243, rgl |
| 21:02.46 | Adys | well thats just unhelpful |
| 21:02.51 | haste | I know :( |
| 21:03.03 | Adys | actually i know half of these numbers by heart |
| 21:03.35 | Adys | 27657 is the launcher issue, 28898 is the d3 multithreaded |
| 21:03.49 | Adys | 28282 is the sound crackling |
| 21:03.51 | Adys | dont know the rest |
| 21:04.24 | Adys | haste: does the rgl patch actually work? last time i used it, i was getting serious artifacting |
| 21:04.42 | haste | there are some artifacts still |
| 21:04.47 | haste | depends on zone and such |
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| 21:04.52 | Adys | haste: also i just checked, bug 26835 was fixed in july |
| 21:05.01 | haste | but it also gives you 2-3 times the FPS |
| 21:05.06 | Kaylin | just sticks to D2 |
| 21:05.07 | haste | and makes 25-man raids possible |
| 21:05.19 | haste | yeah, I don't really control if they still apply :P |
| 21:05.22 | haste | I clean up once in a while |
| 21:05.28 | haste | building is automated anyway |
| 21:05.33 | Adys | i shouldve remembered that one |
| 21:05.36 | Adys | i filed it :) |
| 21:05.39 | Adys | :(* |
| 21:05.41 | haste | aw |
| 21:07.04 | Adys | kd3: seriously though, earlier question still stands for those who played it |
| 21:07.08 | Adys | is mop really boring? |
| 21:07.21 | kd3 | we've only seen 2 zones of it so far |
| 21:07.35 | Adys | well they're supposed to be the most crucial ones |
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| 21:08.26 | kd3 | you can look at my writeups for the devs if you want -- http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4254518443 & http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4365747040 & |
| 21:08.45 | kd3 | they need to do a polish pass before I can pass judgment |
| 21:09.20 | zenzelezz | what are you talking about, this is the Internet, you don't even need to know what you're talking about to pass judgement |
| 21:09.56 | Adys | % ./main.py |
| 21:09.56 | Adys | 109 new patches (475 total) |
| 21:09.57 | Adys | wee |
| 21:10.33 | Adys | haste, kd3: i have a filter watching over the patchlist, keeping uncommitted patches archived |
| 21:10.50 | Adys | have only been running it for a couple weeks though |
| 21:11.09 | haste | sounds, unstable :D |
| 21:11.18 | Adys | i have to run it manually |
| 21:11.23 | Adys | i should just put it in cron |
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| 21:11.51 | Arrowmaster | |Jelly|_: IN OR OUT! CHOOSE ONE! |
| 21:12.07 | olafski | such anger |
| 21:14.50 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: both, repeatedly |
| 21:15.35 | kd3 | what the hell; how do sandbags dodge attacks? |
| 21:15.48 | TC-Work | by you sucking at hitting |
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| 21:20.56 | Kaylin | most sandbags are full of sand |
| 21:21.01 | Kaylin | these are full of kittens |
| 21:21.05 | Kaylin | you should feel bad. |
| 21:21.54 | foxlit | kd3: I think you're stretching the quest classifications a bit |
| 21:22.06 | kd3 | that's what I get for only having 3 classifications |
| 21:22.14 | foxlit | introduce more! :P |
| 21:22.22 | Arrowmaster | kd3, haste: first thing that comes to mind when reading this question? http://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/rt2m1/would_eating_boot_leather_actually_provide/ |
| 21:22.28 | Kaylin | collect, kill, bomb? |
| 21:22.33 | Kaylin | you forgot delivery quests |
| 21:24.53 | haste | Arrowmaster: I don't even... |
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| 21:25.25 | Arrowmaster | first thing i thought was FMA |
| 21:25.56 | haste | I haven't seen FMA since it initially aired |
| 21:26.20 | Arrowmaster | FMA:B? |
| 21:26.35 | haste | no |
| 21:26.40 | Arrowmaster | scene isnt in the original but its in the manga and FMA:B |
| 21:26.46 | haste | the one that aired in 2003/2004 |
| 21:27.47 | haste | hmm, soon ten years since I started watching anime :o |
| 21:31.32 | TC-Work | FMA i liked, but FMA:B felt like i was just rewatching the same thing |
| 21:31.41 | TC-Work | and FMA was not good enough to watch twice |
| 21:31.58 | Arrowmaster | that only lasts for about 15 episodes |
| 21:32.25 | Arrowmaster | at a certain point in FMA they stopped following the manga and just started making shit up |
| 21:32.42 | TC-Work | it was entertaining shit though |
| 21:32.48 | Arrowmaster | which is why the first 15 or so episodes of FMA:B are about the same |
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| 21:52.34 | Adys | https://github.com/Adys/python-mime/commit/b7b419c0969e991fef44fd33b174959480400f1b |
| 21:52.36 | Adys | <sighs> |
| 21:52.48 | Adys | not sure if hate or love python3 |
| 21:54.22 | A-KO | 'm having trouble getting used to it |
| 21:54.25 | A-KO | honestly |
| 21:54.31 | A-KO | but I figured I'd force feed it to myself |
| 21:54.38 | Adys | same |
| 21:54.44 | Adys | also arch has python3 by default |
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| 22:05.36 | Jamash | wait, there's python 3? |
| 22:05.48 | Jamash | does that mean there's perl 6 too? |
| 22:06.56 | vhaarr | yes, there is :P |
| 22:07.15 | vhaarr | there's even HTML 5 |
| 22:07.31 | TC-Work | and windows 7 |
| 22:07.31 | haste | and Lua 5.2 |
| 22:07.45 | haste | Go release 1 |
| 22:07.52 | haste | and Rust 0.2! |
| 22:07.57 | haste | and afaik BitC is dead |
| 22:09.31 | Adys | AND DUKE NUKEM FOREVER |
| 22:09.49 | Adys | Are you not excited? you guys live in a time where DNF is actually *released* |
| 22:10.33 | Lunessa | ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED? |
| 22:11.22 | TC-Work | old Adys |
| 22:11.29 | Adys | so is python 3 |
| 22:11.40 | Adys | its actually older than dnf's release. |
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