| 00:00.02 | airtonix | i mean adys |
| 00:00.16 | Jamash | kde is bad software for bads |
| 00:00.28 | Adys | kde is pretty horrible |
| 00:00.29 | airtonix | extrapolate Jamash |
| 00:00.31 | Jamash | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4253968049?page=7#125 |
| 00:00.38 | Adys | i only used it for a while because qt apps are awesome |
| 00:00.45 | Adys | but kde is far gone from Qt |
| 00:00.52 | airtonix | i think i'm going to throw a tantrum then |
| 00:00.56 | Adys | ok |
| 00:01.03 | Jamash | airtonix: your desktop environment is bad and you should feel bad |
| 00:01.07 | Adys | join us on razor-qt when you're done |
| 00:01.31 | airtonix | if i wanted minimalism i'd use openbox |
| 00:01.52 | Jamash | xfce forever |
| 00:01.59 | airtonix | x face? |
| 00:02.06 | Adys | airtonix: good, because razor-qt uses openbox |
| 00:02.15 | Adys | not for long though |
| 00:02.35 | Adys | we're switching to kwin, been in contact with Martin Graßling |
| 00:02.41 | Jamash | I think the entire concept of a "desktop environment" is flawed |
| 00:02.53 | airtonix | so is your face Jamash |
| 00:03.23 | airtonix | should it be a "Table Top Environment" ? |
| 00:03.33 | Jamash | yeah one of my eyes is lower than the other |
| 00:03.41 | Jamash | also my upper and lower jaw don't quite align |
| 00:03.45 | airtonix | or a "Window Sill Environment" |
| 00:04.01 | Adys | Jamash: could you explain what you meant by the "flawed" bit? |
| 00:04.20 | airtonix | maybe a "Kitchen Cupboard Shelf Environment" ? |
| 00:04.23 | Adys | 9.3 minutes until fdupes is done with this dir.. |
| 00:05.15 | Jamash | Sure. I want apps that are apps and a window manager that's a window manager. I don't want an incestuous linkage between all the applications, window manager, etc. that requires me to install 90 libraries to get one application. |
| 00:06.50 | Adys | Jamash: the idea of a DE is apps that interact nicely between each-other, but that doesn't necessarily mean dependencies on common libs |
| 00:07.02 | Adys | the situation is stupid with gnome/kde |
| 00:07.11 | Jamash | Further, I don't want my entire desktop to change when someone at the desktop enveronment project gets a bee in their bonnet |
| 00:07.20 | Adys | yeah... |
| 00:07.28 | Jamash | I've seen the shitstorms over updates to KDE and I don't want to have any part of it |
| 00:07.42 | Adys | kde's is nothing compared to gnome |
| 00:08.11 | Adys | Jamash: at razor-qt, we only ship core apps that are necessary to the actual environment (session, desktop, panel, menu, this sort of stuff). the rest are simply Qt apps |
| 00:08.38 | Adys | theres a meta-project (QtDesktop) which proposes "sane default apps" |
| 00:08.57 | Jamash | Another thing is that gnome and kde insist on having their own crappy office suites instead of working on a common one that would suck less. |
| 00:08.58 | Adys | but essentially you can switch an app for another without issues, and non-qt apps tend to be fine too (i use chrome here) |
| 00:09.22 | Adys | that has less to do with kde/gnome i think |
| 00:09.29 | Adys | and more to do with the fanaticism over gtk/kdelibs |
| 00:09.58 | kd3 | pokes lost isles again |
| 00:10.06 | Jamash | I think that the idea of a "desktop environment" leads people into that kind of fanatacism, unfortunately |
| 00:10.28 | Adys | eh |
| 00:10.37 | Jamash | in an attempt to solve ALL the design problems! instead of making apps that do their thing and then get out of the way |
| 00:10.40 | Adys | they want their desktop to be perfect, understandable |
| 00:11.03 | Adys | there are wrong approaches and right approaches, you cannot put all DEs in the same bag here |
| 00:11.10 | Maldivia | rename it "Desktop Experience" then.. |
| 00:11.28 | Jamash | the drive towards perfection leads people to make bad decisions |
| 00:11.36 | Jamash | I want an imperfect OS |
| 00:11.41 | Jamash | that I can get things done in |
| 00:11.51 | Adys | having everyone make good decisions is a horrible idea |
| 00:12.03 | Jamash | I mean really, really bad decisions |
| 00:12.16 | Jamash | like, we're going to overhaul the ENTIRE USER EXPERIENCE next version! |
| 00:12.39 | Adys | users dont like change, devs do |
| 00:12.54 | Adys | note that its the same everywhere except on osx |
| 00:12.56 | Jamash | well then my solution is to find better devs |
| 00:13.07 | Adys | bad decisions are necessary so people can learn how to make the right decisions :) |
| 00:13.11 | kd3 | hoooooly crap |
| 00:13.19 | kd3 | I just created a monk on the pvp server |
| 00:13.20 | kd3 | that was a mistake |
| 00:13.21 | Maldivia | the problem is when devs like change for change's sake |
| 00:13.24 | Jamash | ^ |
| 00:13.36 | Adys | Maldivia: yeah |
| 00:14.30 | Maldivia | kd3: how so? |
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| 00:14.49 | kd3 | grr, no, don't close the window when I interact with the tab |
| 00:14.53 | kd3 | waits on the ss to finish uploading |
| 00:14.57 | kd3 | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/c9937b52be64789b9f7c353d7ca2342a.jpg |
| 00:15.01 | Funkeh` | anyone with the ability to move addons out of the outdated section and into a category around? |
| 00:15.30 | Maldivia | kd3: so a bit crowded :P |
| 00:15.44 | kd3 | a touch, yes |
| 00:15.53 | Maldivia | kd3: at least they aren't all hostile... |
| 00:16.00 | kd3 | haha |
| 00:16.14 | Maldivia | ... or perhaps rather unfortunaltely |
| 00:16.40 | Maldivia | but yeah, that's what you get with 300000 new testers within 2 days |
| 00:17.06 | Jamash | wheeeeee |
| 00:17.13 | Maldivia | kd3: hint: set the interact with target keybinding |
| 00:17.44 | kd3 | meh, was just there to look |
| 00:17.51 | Jamash | should provide a good test for 1st day load |
| 00:18.37 | Adys | how many beta servers are there this time around? |
| 00:19.00 | kd3 | same as there was for cata... us pve/pvp, eu, kr |
| 00:20.35 | Adys | so... 300k players on four servers? |
| 00:21.15 | Jamash | woo |
| 00:21.24 | Jamash | well that's assuming everyone invited is actually going to log in |
| 00:21.26 | Ressy | Plus employees, F&F & Press |
| 00:21.38 | Adys | Ressy: thats the least of the problem :P |
| 00:21.44 | Adys | Jamash: a good 50% are |
| 00:22.04 | Ressy | Employees have quite a few invites. |
| 00:22.48 | Adys | alright, done with this |
| 00:22.57 | Adys | cp-rf and md5deep running overnight |
| 00:22.58 | Adys | gnite. |
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| 00:48.16 | Iriel | I'm sure the %age is significantly under 50% |
| 00:49.15 | kd3 | grr, logging in dead |
| 00:49.17 | kd3 | sighs |
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| 01:07.29 | Shirik | old video, new version --> epic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVpEYzA4ZtY&feature=watch_response |
| 01:07.48 | Shirik | mostly @kd3 but I'm sure there's other tohou people in here |
| 01:09.41 | kd3 | heh |
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| 01:23.06 | Shirik | I wish Wikipedia wouldn't have the same april fools jokes every year http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jimmy_Wales_(6th_nomination) |
| 01:33.23 | Monolit | AdBlock now shows you cats instead of ads! http://adblockforchrome.blogspot.com/2012/03/inturdusing-catblock.html |
| 01:41.44 | Shirik | I find the concept of adblock so incredibly ironic |
| 01:42.43 | Kraps | wait how is that less annoying than ads? |
| 01:43.13 | Shirik | some day the internet will have everything behind a paywall and we will have adblock to blame |
| 01:45.31 | foxlit | it's np. We'll pirate the internet. and hookers. |
| 01:45.47 | Torhal | We could even conscript hookers to pirate the Internet. |
| 01:46.30 | Kraps | you wouldnt download an internet |
| 01:46.41 | Shirik | I downloaded 2 internets yesterday |
| 01:47.04 | Kraps | how could you |
| 01:53.14 | Thunder_Child | multi-threading |
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| 02:15.36 | starlon | Some spammer has Twitter's @starlon account. |
| 02:15.53 | starlon | http://i.imgur.com/RxXIJ.png |
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| 02:16.53 | starlon | https://twitter.com/#!/sisibley/status/186274306332954624 |
| 02:17.00 | karl_w_w | harhar |
| 02:18.08 | starlon | Dude, someone keeps hacking me. |
| 02:18.32 | starlon | I never made the account. |
| 02:18.35 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:18.49 | starlon | Oh damn. |
| 02:19.17 | starlon | What if the hacker starts using the account, deleting the spam? |
| 02:19.30 | starlon | I just make a tweet that this is _not_ me I guess. |
| 02:19.53 | starlon | Well I guess I need to Trademark Starlon. :) |
| 02:19.58 | starlon | lol |
| 02:20.25 | starlon | Isn't a trademark implied? |
| 02:20.36 | starlon | Is that legal? |
| 02:20.40 | starlon | in America? |
| 02:20.44 | starlon | USA |
| 02:20.51 | starlon | <-- USAsian |
| 02:21.02 | Arrowmaster | no you have to apply for it |
| 02:21.08 | starlon | Ah |
| 02:21.16 | karl_w_w | why dont u just hack him back! |
| 02:21.30 | starlon | lol I'm not that kind of hacker |
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| 02:21.41 | starlon | I leave the security noise alone. |
| 02:21.48 | starlon | I'm not taking him on. |
| 02:22.34 | karl_w_w | in other news |
| 02:22.45 | starlon | lol |
| 02:22.47 | karl_w_w | what are these shade/ghost things that appear randomly in wow |
| 02:22.51 | foxlit | void rays! |
| 02:22.57 | starlon | rays to void |
| 02:22.58 | karl_w_w | i used to think they were a dk ability |
| 02:23.12 | foxlit | http://www.wowhead.com/item=40110 |
| 02:23.40 | Shirik | my watch called me normal |
| 02:23.46 | karl_w_w | i see |
| 02:23.50 | starlon | I have one of those. |
| 02:27.18 | starlon | Trademark's not much to apply for. |
| 02:27.33 | starlon | Well if I have a hacker, he'll probably trademark it now. :\ |
| 02:27.55 | starlon | Ah well. I don't have to have Twitter's starlon account. |
| 02:32.13 | airtonix | starlon: because registerin a user is hacking amirite? |
| 02:32.54 | Dagmar | karl_w_w: Probably talking about haunted trinkets |
| 02:33.12 | Dagmar | A spook follows you around if you're carrying one |
| 02:33.20 | starlon | well it may already be registered |
| 02:33.31 | starlon | There used to be a Starlon hotel. |
| 02:33.37 | starlon | They had starlon.com |
| 02:35.59 | starlon | Yep. "OLEFIN FIBERS USED IN THE MANUFACTURE OF FLOOR COVERINGS, NAMELY, RUGS, CARPETS, AND BROADLOOM CARPETING" |
| 02:36.33 | starlon | airtonix: well think of it. Who would actually register my account name? |
| 02:36.43 | starlon | just out of the blue |
| 02:36.56 | starlon | I mistakened upon it. |
| 02:37.20 | starlon | I guess someone who just wants to fuck with me? |
| 02:37.39 | starlon | Maybe it's a disgruntled employee from Starlon Carpets |
| 02:39.50 | airtonix | starlon: just make one called starlonmarketing |
| 02:40.18 | airtonix | or therealstarlon |
| 02:40.30 | airtonix | or itsreallymestarlon |
| 02:40.49 | pompy | http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2012/03/google-maps-gets-8-bit-nes-treatment/1#.T3e6qNmAbrQ |
| 02:41.04 | starlon | lol |
| 02:41.12 | starlon | will the real starlon please stand up? |
| 02:41.16 | starlon | tilts. |
| 02:43.19 | airtonix | or mynamehasbeenstolen |
| 02:46.56 | Fisker | awww |
| 02:47.07 | Fisker | so Blizzard didn't screw up the DMF achievements this month? :( |
| 02:47.58 | Shirik | wat? |
| 02:48.56 | Fisker | i guess 4th times the charm Shirik |
| 02:50.25 | karl_w_w | Shirik: every month if u didnt finish the darkmoon faire quest item turn ins achievement in that week, the achievement reset |
| 02:50.46 | BlackNet | when is dmf? |
| 02:50.56 | karl_w_w | and every month they said they've fixed it so it wont happen next month |
| 02:51.02 | Shirik | April 11-13 |
| 02:51.06 | Shirik | it's in Baltimore |
| 02:51.32 | Fisker | umad Shirik ? |
| 02:51.39 | Shirik | nope |
| 02:51.44 | Fisker | i think you are |
| 02:51.54 | Shirik | I'm on the deck check team, which means I get to sit down half the time |
| 02:51.58 | Fisker | you look pretty effing mad |
| 02:52.08 | BlackNet | who cares |
| 02:52.21 | Shirik | not mad at all |
| 02:52.30 | Fisker | i wonder if they fixed summertime on events |
| 02:53.39 | pompy | summertime? |
| 02:54.13 | BlackNet | am thinking about dropping my wow addiction and going to the range instead |
| 02:54.19 | Fisker | yeah pompy |
| 02:54.42 | Fisker | events are/were starting an hour earlier than intended |
| 02:54.46 | Fisker | or was it an hour later? |
| 02:54.47 | Fisker | idk |
| 02:54.52 | pompy | ah |
| 02:55.03 | pompy | well dailies reset at 4am st now |
| 02:55.08 | pompy | i thught they fixed that too |
| 02:55.10 | pompy | but guess not |
| 02:55.25 | Dagmar | Pfft. Your *clock* changed, not time. |
| 02:55.44 | pompy | yeah so it shuold have stayed at 3am reset |
| 02:55.47 | pompy | but nope |
| 02:56.43 | starlon | Does Google connect G+ with Android? |
| 02:56.45 | Fisker | that's what you think Dagmar |
| 02:56.50 | pompy | so DMF should start in 3 hours at least for US servers. |
| 02:56.55 | Fisker | why wouldn't they starlon ? |
| 02:57.06 | starlon | Well I'm wondering how. :) |
| 02:57.24 | Fisker | internet? |
| 02:57.37 | starlon | I can't ask is what you're saying. |
| 02:57.51 | starlon | censorererer |
| 02:57.56 | Fisker | nope.mp4 |
| 02:58.04 | starlon | :\ pwnt |
| 02:58.06 | Fisker | either your question is stupid or you already got it answered |
| 02:58.18 | starlon | excuse me? |
| 02:58.21 | starlon | be nicer |
| 02:58.40 | Fisker | nope |
| 02:58.41 | pompy | ~lart starlon |
| 02:58.41 | purl | urinates on starlon |
| 02:58.42 | Fisker | .mp4 |
| 02:58.45 | pompy | haha |
| 02:58.52 | Fisker | you shouldn't do drugs starlon |
| 02:58.54 | Fisker | it's bad for you |
| 02:59.01 | starlon | I take meds, not drugs. |
| 02:59.13 | Fisker | that's what they all say |
| 02:59.18 | starlon | :) |
| 03:00.44 | starlon | Cool story. http://www1.yadvashem.org/yv/en/righteous/stories/hardaga.asp |
| 03:02.54 | airtonix | bro |
| 03:03.57 | starlon | It's innocence getting along despite differences, then actively protecting those differences. It hits home. |
| 03:06.15 | starlon | I'm working on making Android displays scriptable like a LCD simulation. Think StarTip for WoW and Rift, but on Android. |
| 03:09.14 | airtonix | what a pretentious website name |
| 03:09.37 | airtonix | i guess religion makes people wacky like that |
| 03:10.02 | airtonix | cool story though |
| 03:12.04 | starlon | :) |
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| 03:19.26 | Fisker | LOL |
| 03:19.31 | Fisker | i don't know whats more pathetic |
| 03:19.40 | Fisker | that they invested in ipads to reduce the need for printing |
| 03:19.56 | Fisker | or that they actually ended up printing out more stuff than before the ipads because they had to print out the manual |
| 03:20.26 | Fisker | you must be pretty fucking retarded to not be able to use a tablet |
| 03:21.05 | Fisker | also |
| 03:21.10 | Fisker | this makes no sense either |
| 03:21.53 | Fisker | they say 7 million pages have been printed in 3 months |
| 03:22.10 | Fisker | and there's 27 people who use them |
| 03:22.23 | Fisker | so apparently they print out 20 manuals a day per person |
| 03:22.38 | Fisker | not sure if troll or srs |
| 03:22.48 | Fisker | also |
| 03:22.53 | Fisker | looks at date and facepalms |
| 03:23.05 | Arrowmaster | hahaha |
| 03:23.22 | Fisker | they got me! |
| 03:23.32 | Fisker | A troll regarding ipads was too good to pass off |
| 03:24.51 | Arrowmaster | fucking spam text messages |
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| 03:28.47 | kd3 | anyone on beta make it to dawn's blossom yet? |
| 03:31.29 | Fisker | nope kd3 |
| 03:31.30 | Fisker | noone |
| 03:31.43 | Fisker | someone should make an RPG based on that there google maps |
| 03:41.44 | nebula169 | just suffix a zelda title with : Google Adventure! (beta) |
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| 04:11.55 | Thunder_Child | rages at games that cant launch properly |
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| 04:39.21 | Shirik | (21:27:15) * Thunder_Child [00:21:27] rages at games that cant launch properly |
| 04:39.22 | Shirik | ? |
| 04:47.09 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: there was a game that would only display on the wrong gfx card in full screen |
| 04:47.32 | Thunder_Child | and even the cmd line switches were not doing anything |
| 05:17.43 | Shirik | ha, kd3: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship |
| 05:18.03 | kd3 | hahaha |
| 05:21.11 | Shirik | oh wow I didn't see this |
| 05:21.15 | Shirik | `"WP:RFA" redirects here. You may be looking for Hell,` |
| 05:22.15 | kd3 | has the main page been put on AfD yet, like it has every year? |
| 05:23.05 | Shirik | I'm hoping we've gotten over that |
| 05:23.32 | Shirik | o.O http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Recursion |
| 05:25.17 | airtonix | Fisker: umadbro? |
| 05:35.50 | Shirik | how come we don't have any good singers anymore |
| 05:36.03 | Shirik | listening to celine dion right now |
| 05:36.17 | Corrodias2 | we do. how come you don't know about them? :( |
| 05:36.28 | Shirik | ok how come they aren't on the radio anymore |
| 05:36.50 | Corrodias2 | that is a good question. i don't really pay attention to radio broadcasts much. |
| 05:37.13 | Corrodias2 | i mostly use it to give me classic 80's tunes on the way to and from work |
| 05:37.15 | Shirik | the fact that they aren't on the radio implies the majority of people do not listen to good singers |
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| 05:39.45 | kd3 | this is freaking cool: http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/news/uploads/WAC_CSHADE_O000N1800_1000.png |
| 05:39.56 | kd3 | a topographical map of the far side of the moon |
| 05:41.51 | Corrodias2 | i like pretty colors. |
| 05:42.02 | Kaylin | suspects it's not really that color. |
| 05:43.47 | pompy | anyone see adblocks april fools joke? |
| 05:44.17 | kd3 | cats! |
| 05:44.21 | pompy | puts cats on websites u visit apparently. |
| 05:44.22 | pompy | yar |
| 05:44.38 | pompy | wonder when blizz will post theirs |
| 05:44.51 | Kaylin | I want crabby back |
| 05:45.15 | Shirik | I don't get it |
| 05:45.17 | Shirik | doesn't the moon rotate? |
| 05:45.29 | Shirik | why is the far side of the moon a curiosity? |
| 05:45.51 | Arrowmaster | because we never see it? |
| 05:46.01 | nevcairiel | the moon always faces the earth with the same side |
| 05:46.06 | nevcairiel | its called "tidal locking" |
| 05:46.21 | Shirik | hax |
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| 05:47.08 | nevcairiel | it rotates so slow that it matches exactly the time it needs to rotate around the earth |
| 05:47.16 | nevcairiel | so from our point of view, it doesnt rotate |
| 05:47.43 | Shirik | strange that the same did not occur of the earth and sun |
| 05:48.26 | nevcairiel | that would kind of suck for us |
| 05:48.57 | Humbedooh | you never know - it's april fools day, anything could happen! |
| 05:49.11 | Shirik | it would |
| 05:49.30 | nevcairiel | mercury is semi-locked to the sun |
| 05:49.36 | Shirik | however, there are a lot of things that if they weren't just right, life would be wiped out |
| 05:57.50 | kd3 | okay. it's 2 am now. I guess I'm going to ignore the rest of the internet today |
| 05:58.47 | pompy | http://i.imgur.com/hbmED.jpg ikea's april fools joke.. |
| 05:59.03 | Humbedooh | oh man...someone tried to sneak in an april fools foke in a .htaccess file he wanted me to review...sad, sad, sad |
| 06:03.21 | Arrowmaster | http://www.reddit.com/t/heatdeathoftheuniverse/ |
| 06:13.03 | Arrowmaster | this is going to be a great day http://i.imgur.com/IJhPf.jpg |
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| 06:14.34 | nevcairiel | if anyone knows that any announcement done today is totally bogus, whats the point |
| 06:15.35 | Arrowmaster | as long as they are funny, like that one i linked, i dont care |
| 06:16.02 | nevcairiel | its especially bad that today is sunday, usually people wouldnt announce anythign today which makes it even more obviuous |
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| 06:47.34 | karl_w_w | 45 minute arena battle, ends in a tie, lose 12 rating |
| 06:47.48 | karl_w_w | thats after we win and gain 7 |
| 06:52.50 | karl_w_w | New Blizzard Kidzz Series to Offer the Most Epic Learning Experiences . . . Ever! |
| 06:56.16 | TMc51_ | funniest thing is, I could easilyt imagine Blizzard doing that for real. |
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| 07:22.56 | mitchnull | karl_w_w: we did that once with a resto druid + holy priest combo ;) |
| 07:23.19 | mckenziemc | Shirik: it would eventually happen with the sun and earth but the sun will be dead by then |
| 07:23.24 | mitchnull | actually, we won at around 35 mins, as the others /ragequit ;) |
| 07:27.00 | pompy | http://www.wowheadnews.com/blog=202158/mists-of-pandaria-preview-transmoggable-legendaries-new-world-events-and-more |
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| 07:40.28 | AcidWeb | http://aw.cap.im/2012-04-01_0938.png |
| 07:40.29 | AcidWeb | lol |
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| 08:01.04 | airtonix | Corrodias2: guess what |
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| 08:02.21 | airtonix | shirik is a noob |
| 08:04.00 | Corrodias2 | oh no |
| 08:06.53 | airtonix | yeah also |
| 08:06.59 | airtonix | the 80s are over |
| 08:07.07 | TMc51_ | https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/multitask.html awesome |
| 08:07.29 | airtonix | old |
| 08:09.31 | airtonix | btw it's broken, i moved all 500 of my cursors next to each other on top of an ebay "buy it now" link... |
| 08:09.39 | airtonix | and my computer didn't shutdown |
| 08:09.48 | Corrodias2 | that's why i get to listen to all the good music and none of the crap. that's what i'd like to say. really they just play some of the good music and some of the crap, leaving most of both categories silent. |
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| 08:10.57 | karl_w_w | anyone know how to access the application specific networking settings in windows 8? |
| 08:21.07 | Corrodias2 | no, but that sounds interesting. what kind of settings are we talking about, here? |
| 08:22.06 | Maldivia | karl_w_w: device center ? |
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| 08:45.36 | Fisker | noumad airtonix |
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| 08:49.18 | pompy | oh but of course |
| 08:49.20 | pompy | http://www.facebook.com/Warcraft/posts/363796666996675 |
| 08:51.07 | Fisker | http://www.neowin.net/news/smoked-by-windows-phone-extended-to-april-5th <-i don't get this april fools joke :( |
| 08:51.51 | karl_w_w | no idea Corrodias2 :P |
| 08:52.04 | karl_w_w | I just heard you can change settings for eachh programs |
| 08:52.17 | karl_w_w | things like the time it waits to send a packet and such |
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| 08:55.35 | Jamash | welp, time to shut down the channel eh guys? http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43154 |
| 08:55.48 | Jamash | we've had a good run |
| 08:56.15 | AcidWeb | Jamash: We always can drop WoW and all move to Hello Kitty Online |
| 08:56.22 | AcidWeb | i heard the pvp there is better |
| 08:56.30 | Jamash | sounds like a plan |
| 08:56.42 | Jamash | does it have pandas? |
| 08:57.05 | bleeter | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJSQFzw1pEE |
| 09:00.35 | Fisker | Jamashes a guy |
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| 09:13.59 | Maldivia | loving all the small "mobs" in google maps quest view :P |
| 09:14.40 | Jamash | a guys Fisker |
| 09:16.08 | Maldivia | like: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=37.237162,-115.809975&spn=0.023404,0.045447&sll=47.64041,-122.125397&sspn=0.633824,1.454315&t=8&z=15 |
| 09:17.08 | Jamash | I wonder if there's a godzilla in tokyo |
| 09:18.00 | Jamash | don't see one but they do have hachiko and the tokyo tower |
| 09:18.21 | Maldivia | I found the main boss though :) |
| 09:18.34 | Maldivia | at the center of the map (0,0) |
| 09:18.42 | Fisker | someone needs to make it an RPG or something Maldivia |
| 09:18.50 | Fisker | link btw |
| 09:19.06 | Corrodias2 | hah |
| 09:19.10 | rtharper | Mikk: Where do you live in Sweden? |
| 09:19.58 | Maldivia | http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&sll=0,0&sspn=0,0&t=8&z=17 |
| 09:20.06 | karl_w_w | !ap health |
| 09:20.09 | karl_w_w | !api health |
| 09:20.10 | lua_bot | Found 7 possible results for 'health': UnitHealth, GetUnitMaxHealthModifier, GetUnitHealthModifier, UNIT_HEALTH_FREQUENT, UNIT_MAXHEALTH, UNIT_HEALTH, UnitHealthMax |
| 09:21.03 | karl_w_w | lol the deathwing that flies around before ultraxion has 1 health |
| 09:21.57 | Maldivia | Jamash: ohh, found this list: http://www.bengarvey.com/2012/03/31/list-of-interesting-places-in-8-bit-google-maps/ |
| 09:22.21 | Jamash | nice |
| 09:23.12 | Fisker | hey Maldivia |
| 09:23.58 | Maldivia | hey Fisker |
| 09:24.06 | Fisker | hey |
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| 09:39.19 | Jamash | zzzzzzzzz |
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| 09:54.22 | Stanzilla | hey Fisker |
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| 10:10.21 | airtonix | Jamash: umad? |
| 10:11.03 | Torhal | memes airtonix to death. |
| 10:11.11 | airtonix | hey Torhal |
| 10:11.27 | airtonix | i think Jamash is mad |
| 10:11.44 | Stanzilla | Torhal: umad? |
| 10:15.30 | Torhal | Stanzilla: Die, infidel! |
| 10:15.44 | Stanzilla | Torhal: happy birthday |
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| 10:21.08 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 10:24.21 | Stanzilla | hey Fisker |
| 10:24.27 | Stanzilla | happy birthday to you, too |
| 10:37.16 | Maldivia | Cairenn|afk: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4254523265 :) |
| 10:39.36 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 10:39.48 | TMc51_ | wow, fail. |
| 10:42.01 | nevcairiel | haha, chrome multitask mode is great as well |
| 10:48.22 | Fisker | yeah Maldivia |
| 10:48.26 | Fisker | some april fools are just too trolly |
| 10:48.36 | Fisker | also some chat addon that makes you appear with a GM icon |
| 10:48.40 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: I like their statement "We realized that anytime when browsing you're only using 50% of your hands" and then showing the picture with active/inactive on the hands... and I was like... well, depends who and what they're browsnig :P |
| 10:48.51 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 10:48.52 | haste | http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2012/03/introducing-gmail-tap.html |
| 10:50.14 | nevcairiel | they should so build that |
| 10:53.06 | haste | heh, weather control |
| 10:53.51 | Maldivia | ok, so far, Google is in the clear lead for the best April fool features/stories :P |
| 10:54.05 | haste | and google anatlytics piano/sitar :P |
| 10:59.17 | Mikk | No more addons?!?!?! The Addon Proliferation Rallying Internet Leets 1st task force will do the utmost to combat this decision! |
| 11:00.24 | haste | sudenly, freenode.net died |
| 11:01.44 | airtonix | oh haste |
| 11:05.09 | Torhal | Mikk: Less chatter, more fixing WeakAuras. I'm sick of Stanzilla's bitchy-ass whining. |
| 11:05.13 | Torhal | :D |
| 11:06.53 | Mikk | Torhal: pcall(), i say! |
| 11:07.18 | Torhal | Bah! |
| 11:07.35 | airtonix | brosephine |
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| 11:37.56 | Adys | Morning |
| 11:40.17 | bluworkcow | kk i gotta go |
| 11:40.48 | Adys | Cairenn|afk: nice AF :) |
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| 13:00.13 | Adys | Maldivia: ^T/media/sdb1/home/patches/streamers/World of Warcraft Installer (WLK-EU)/installer tome 2.mpq.part: error at offset 544010240: Input/output error |
| 13:00.33 | Adys | looks like md5s pay off |
| 13:01.29 | airtonix | you been checking it all this time ? |
| 13:01.36 | Adys | its not done |
| 13:01.37 | airtonix | birch please |
| 13:01.42 | Adys | theres over 2500 files to check |
| 13:02.05 | Adys | 2862 files to be precise |
| 13:02.10 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 13:02.27 | airtonix | what's your choice of caching solution when it comes to wsgi Adys? |
| 13:02.33 | airtonix | varnish? |
| 13:02.42 | Adys | airtonix: depends on the load, but avoid varnish |
| 13:02.51 | airtonix | can you explain why? |
| 13:02.51 | Adys | for small websites memcache is enough, otherwise squid |
| 13:02.59 | airtonix | yeah squid? |
| 13:03.10 | Adys | because varnish requires extreme expert touch in order to function optimally |
| 13:03.12 | airtonix | proven technology and all that ? |
| 13:03.27 | airtonix | oh easier |
| 13:03.44 | Adys | you could ping Kaelten on that he'd explain it much better |
| 13:04.18 | Adys | but from experience (at least on mmo-champion), varnish tends to break your shit extremely easily |
| 13:05.16 | Adys | either way, unless you're really high load you shouldnt have to worry about it further than memcache+squid; and if you are extremely high load, well, the person configuring your caching should probably not have to ask in this channel :P |
| 13:06.59 | airtonix | well it's my first high load site and it could easily in my opinion get extremely high load... |
| 13:07.27 | Adys | start with squid and memcache, if you get in trouble get a real sysadmin to look at it |
| 13:07.28 | airtonix | how much bandwidth does mmo or wowinterface transfer in a day (just the website) |
| 13:07.42 | Adys | erm, i dont know, Bibi posted stats like a year ago |
| 13:07.50 | Adys | ask him |
| 13:08.31 | airtonix | i guess i just want to withstand a slashdot effect |
| 13:08.52 | airtonix | or rather set it up to avoid recieving a call from a client in tears |
| 13:10.00 | Adys | then build a serverfarm, set up your own super-cdns all over the world and spend a couple billions getting it prepared for anything |
| 13:10.05 | Adys | you know, just in case |
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| 13:10.57 | Adys | hey, foxlit |
| 13:11.02 | Adys | /media/sdb1/home/patches/streamers/World of Warcraft Installer (WLK-EU)/installer tome 2.mpq.part: error at offset 544010240: Input/output error |
| 13:11.07 | Adys | where are your sanity checks NOW?! |
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| 13:13.49 | foxlit | hey, the copy went perfectly, your hd just died later |
| 13:17.29 | airtonix | i have your god in my pocket |
| 13:17.47 | Adys | foxlit: I have a bad feeling: http://paste2.org/p/1962840 |
| 13:24.57 | pompy | http://www.trueachievements.com/n8164/microsoft-to-allow--cash-in-of-gamerscore.htm april fools maybe lol? |
| 13:26.33 | Adys | tip |
| 13:26.37 | Adys | don't read the internet today |
| 13:26.38 | Adys | go out |
| 13:26.51 | Adys | airtonix: alright, just one mismatch |
| 13:26.55 | Adys | relief |
| 13:27.00 | airtonix | good stuff |
| 13:27.40 | pompy | http://eu.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=221003857 lol |
| 13:28.11 | nevcairiel | out of stock. :( |
| 13:28.52 | pompy | lol |
| 13:29.05 | pompy | http://www.thinkgeek.com/interests/looflirpa/ee06/?pfm=Carousel_AckbarSingingBass_2 IT'S A TRAP! |
| 13:31.00 | pompy | http://www.youtube.com/theyoutubecollection |
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| 13:37.25 | Maldivia | Adys: make a torrent for your source, and then check destination ;) |
| 13:43.45 | Adys | alright, all transferred |
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| 13:54.12 | pompy | http://www.trueachievements.com/n8166/bioware-lets-fans-choose-mass-effect-3s-ending.htm sad |
| 13:54.59 | Fisker | ysad? |
| 13:55.48 | Kraps | eh |
| 13:55.53 | Kraps | thats pretty silly |
| 13:56.14 | Kraps | oh its april 1st |
| 13:59.25 | Stanzilla | april fools day best day |
| 14:01.41 | bleeter | BABY BIRDIES LIVE http://www.ustream.tv/decoraheagles |
| 14:06.06 | foxlit | awwww, it's cawing at their tiny carcases! |
| 14:08.27 | karl_w_w | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/01/apple_patent/ |
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| 14:12.38 | Adys | Maldivia: it's scary to rm -rf a 300gb directory |
| 14:13.48 | Maldivia | any hard symlinks? :) |
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| 14:18.02 | [Wobin] | Cairenn|afk: http://youtu.be/qrSa6vjjRHo |
| 14:21.49 | Maldivia | that's waaay too cute... |
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| 14:53.12 | Adys | Maldivia: ahahah http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/rnrs7/the_bbc_have_out_done_themselves_this_year/ |
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| 15:10.53 | Maldivia | lol |
| 15:12.33 | airtonix | who has read the hunger games books? |
| 15:13.26 | Maldivia | Adys: but why is it complaining about Share being spelled wrong? |
| 15:13.54 | Adys | Maldivia: likely because it's just someone who turned edit mode on |
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| 15:37.07 | Adys | Arrowmaster, nevcairiel: do you think its possible to migrate to a distro without reinstalling? |
| 15:37.11 | Adys | in this case ubuntu->arch |
| 15:37.27 | nevcairiel | i'm sure its possible, but i wouldn't want to try |
| 15:37.55 | Adys | Im kinda tempted to give it a shot |
| 15:39.02 | Adys | on the other hand |
| 15:39.04 | Adys | its insane |
| 15:39.21 | nevcairiel | sometimes a fresh system is what you really need |
| 15:39.26 | Adys | yeah |
| 15:39.27 | nevcairiel | speaking of, i need to setup 4 servers |
| 15:39.53 | zenzelezz | Adys: if you're really curious, back up any important data and try it |
| 15:40.03 | Adys | zenzelezz: im thinking |
| 15:40.15 | zenzelezz | that's more than Fisker does |
| 15:40.17 | Adys | maybe getting a basic arch install on a separate mount |
| 15:40.32 | Adys | removing everything unnecessary from ubuntu |
| 15:40.38 | Fisker | i always think zenzelezz |
| 15:40.47 | nevcairiel | there are soem guides around the net for these kind of things, mostly aimed at people that have a rented server with some distro pre-installed but would prefer another |
| 15:41.05 | nevcairiel | but its all really messy |
| 15:41.08 | Adys | then chroot to the mount, copy everything over |
| 15:41.14 | Adys | yeah |
| 15:41.44 | Adys | nevcairiel: im annoyed because i cant find a good program to make a bootable cd on linux |
| 15:42.01 | nevcairiel | use a usb stick? :d |
| 15:42.07 | zenzelezz | from a linux box? |
| 15:42.48 | Adys | nevcairiel: only have one, and grml is on it, dont really wanna erase it |
| 15:42.58 | Adys | zenzelezz: yes |
| 15:43.55 | nevcairiel | Adys: if i ever get to meet you, i'll bring you a bag full of usb sticks, i have whole boxes full of 2-4gb sticks with company logos on them .. advertisement purposes and all.... :P |
| 15:44.21 | Adys | nevcairiel: wtb :( |
| 15:44.35 | Adys | i actually have another usb stick but its fubar |
| 15:44.38 | Adys | gives heavy io errors |
| 15:44.46 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 15:45.38 | nevcairiel | on another matter, i need to build a linux based router system with at least 3 NICs (4 is better). The Mobo in there has one NIC, anyone got any experience with those dual or triple NIC cards? :d |
| 15:45.55 | Adys | Dagmar might |
| 15:46.01 | zenzelezz | I somehow broke something on my system so Wine no longer likes my WoW; getting a "BadWindow"... wonder what exactly did it |
| 15:46.12 | Adys | zenzelezz: glxgears |
| 15:46.18 | Fisker | if you used your brain you might figure it out zenzelezz |
| 15:46.30 | zenzelezz | Fisker: don't be silly, I have none |
| 15:46.41 | Adys | zenzelezz: if glxgears gives the same err, reinstall your drivers |
| 15:46.41 | nevcairiel | he isnt zenzelezz for nothing |
| 15:46.52 | zenzelezz | Adys: glxgears runs fine :-( |
| 15:46.53 | Fisker | lol! |
| 15:47.02 | nevcairiel | reinstall wine? :) |
| 15:47.05 | nevcairiel | or wow? :D |
| 15:47.10 | Fisker | better |
| 15:47.11 | Fisker | install windows |
| 15:47.30 | Adys | zenzelezz: try anyway |
| 15:47.31 | zenzelezz | running WoW off a network mount (... I know), might try a new Wine, but I'm sure I messed up some other part of the system |
| 15:47.39 | Adys | er |
| 15:47.41 | Adys | network mount? |
| 15:47.45 | Adys | heres your problem.. |
| 15:47.49 | zenzelezz | nope |
| 15:47.53 | zenzelezz | it is A problem, not THE |
| 15:47.59 | nevcairiel | that wouldnt cause graphics errors |
| 15:48.01 | Adys | its a pretty big A |
| 15:48.03 | nevcairiel | maybe general slowness |
| 15:48.07 | nevcairiel | but not graphics |
| 15:48.08 | zenzelezz | Adys: yes, it's very big, but it ran before |
| 15:48.14 | zenzelezz | so the BadWindow is something else |
| 15:48.36 | Adys | zenzelezz: try reinstalling the drivers, it fixes the issue 99% of the time |
| 15:48.43 | zenzelezz | good point |
| 15:49.11 | zenzelezz | wish I had my main computer here, really need to just shove the data off this box and reinstall it |
| 15:49.13 | Adys | nevcairiel: so, I just found out I dont have blank CDs either |
| 15:49.13 | Adys | FML |
| 15:49.17 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:49.22 | nevcairiel | setup network booting! |
| 15:49.52 | nevcairiel | or backup your usb stick and use it |
| 15:50.49 | zenzelezz | I had to put the Windows 7 installer on a USB stick because my DVD-ROM wouldn't read the DVD (while every single one of the rest of the DVD-ROMs in the house did) |
| 15:51.16 | nevcairiel | i like my system that has a network web interface where i can point it to an ISO and it can boot over network from that iso |
| 15:51.21 | Adys | nvm! found a rw with ubuntu 9.04 on it! |
| 15:51.22 | nevcairiel | thats some handy tool |
| 15:51.39 | Stanzilla | boots nevcairiel |
| 15:51.41 | nevcairiel | but the board wasnt exactly cheap |
| 15:51.52 | nevcairiel | (it also runs a Xeon) |
| 15:51.53 | Adys | nevcairiel: ive heard of that before, how does that even work? |
| 15:52.05 | nevcairiel | it just does |
| 15:52.15 | Adys | you need special hardware? |
| 15:52.15 | nevcairiel | it has a SoC next to the bios that manages all that |
| 15:52.39 | nevcairiel | i guess its not really a SoC, it probably runs of the other normal hardware |
| 15:52.46 | nevcairiel | but its just some extra piece of software |
| 15:53.03 | nevcairiel | it also gives me console redirection over the same web ui |
| 15:53.07 | nevcairiel | never need to connect a screen |
| 15:53.39 | Adys | nevcairiel: im interested, link? |
| 15:54.22 | nevcairiel | only coems integrated into the mainboard, you cannot retrofit it or anything, but my board is a SUPERMICRO X9SCM-F |
| 15:55.13 | Adys | nevcairiel: are there non-xeon boards with this? |
| 15:55.23 | nevcairiel | these boards take normal CPUs too |
| 15:55.27 | nevcairiel | just cannot use the ECC ram |
| 15:56.01 | Adys | nevcairiel: yeah just wondering if asus has boards like that |
| 15:56.05 | nevcairiel | doubtful |
| 15:56.09 | nevcairiel | its a server board |
| 15:56.14 | Adys | i tend to stick with asus (altho i dont exactly have a reason to) |
| 15:56.25 | nevcairiel | my normal PC has an asus too |
| 15:56.43 | nevcairiel | the feature is called IPMI, just look for that |
| 15:56.57 | nevcairiel | IPMI 2.0 to be exact |
| 15:57.10 | Adys | http://www.asus.com/Server_Workstation/Accessories/ASMB5iKVM/ |
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| 15:57.56 | nevcairiel | heh they have upgrade kits for their other server boards |
| 15:59.11 | nevcairiel | i didnt pick the board because of that, i just noticed it had it when i got it, and used it right away |
| 15:59.27 | Adys | why do you have a server board anyway? |
| 15:59.40 | nevcairiel | because its in a server |
| 15:59.57 | nevcairiel | its not my main pc |
| 16:00.13 | Adys | that explains things |
| 16:01.58 | nevcairiel | I needed a new board for a server anyway, and using that board and a xeon wasn't that much more expensive then the consumer variations |
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| 16:26.13 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 16:26.31 | nevcairiel | hey Fisker |
| 16:26.37 | Fisker | that's silly btw nevcairiel |
| 16:26.47 | nevcairiel | what is |
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| 16:27.29 | Fisker | does that module work on every board or? |
| 16:27.47 | nevcairiel | the asus thing? I dont think so, only on their server boards |
| 16:27.57 | Fisker | dicks |
| 16:28.00 | Fisker | oh well |
| 16:28.05 | nevcairiel | Bromolow only (P8B-E/4L, P8B-M, RS300-E7, TS300-E7, RS100-E7) |
| 16:28.09 | nevcairiel | those boards ^ |
| 16:28.11 | Fisker | hopefully intel puts all that shit in their mainstream boards soon |
| 16:28.22 | nevcairiel | for consumers? |
| 16:28.24 | nevcairiel | doubtful |
| 16:28.36 | nevcairiel | its not really a feature anyone would use |
| 16:29.09 | Fisker | i would |
| 16:30.01 | Fisker | it would be great |
| 16:30.06 | Fisker | if some dick stole your computer |
| 16:30.08 | Fisker | just remote it |
| 16:30.10 | nevcairiel | asus could potentially but it into boards like the WS Revolution |
| 16:30.10 | Fisker | lol'd |
| 16:30.16 | nevcairiel | only works on lan |
| 16:30.48 | Fisker | nope |
| 16:31.05 | karl_w_w | Fisker how am I supposed to believe that? |
| 16:31.06 | nevcairiel | i guess it might also work over internet, fi you figure out the ip and the router lets you through |
| 16:32.11 | nevcairiel | more importantly, arent the new 7 series boards to be released soon |
| 16:32.45 | Fisker | yup |
| 16:33.00 | nevcairiel | stupid cpus will still take until end of the month |
| 16:33.02 | Fisker | Dell is refreshing their XPS lineup in just after easter i think |
| 16:33.05 | nevcairiel | but my new htpc is close! |
| 16:33.16 | Fisker | i'm hoping the refresh = IB |
| 16:33.27 | nevcairiel | IVB CPUs won't be released until 29th |
| 16:33.33 | Fisker | sauce? |
| 16:33.43 | nevcairiel | meh |
| 16:33.45 | nevcairiel | have to find |
| 16:34.26 | Fisker | anyway |
| 16:34.31 | Fisker | don't think i'll upgrade to IB |
| 16:34.40 | Fisker | infact i'm not sure when i'll upgrade |
| 16:34.42 | nevcairiel | me neither, but i'm getting a new htpc |
| 16:34.52 | nevcairiel | still has some stupid amd cpu in it |
| 16:34.53 | Fisker | i hate Intel's release schedule |
| 16:35.04 | Fisker | mainstream first, extreme later :( |
| 16:35.21 | Fisker | Because at the end of the day i'd like IB-E |
| 16:35.25 | nevcairiel | the -e isn't really needed anymore |
| 16:35.31 | Fisker | but then 5 minutes after IB-E, hey look, there's haswell! |
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| 16:35.46 | Fisker | i like the chipset better than the mainstream nevcairiel |
| 16:35.54 | nevcairiel | with PCIe 3.0 the extra lanes are no argument anymore, can easily run 2-3 GPUs on it |
| 16:36.09 | Fisker | 8xRAM Sockets = nom nom nom |
| 16:36.27 | nevcairiel | 32GB not enough for you? :d |
| 16:36.30 | Fisker | nope |
| 16:36.35 | Fisker | 64GB not enough for me |
| 16:36.38 | Fisker | i want 128GB |
| 16:36.48 | Fisker | and i could dedicate 100GB for a RAM-disk lol |
| 16:37.06 | nevcairiel | install your OS on it and never reboot! |
| 16:37.14 | Fisker | i never do |
| 16:37.18 | Fisker | except when i reboot :3 |
| 16:37.33 | Fisker | besides i'm sure someone will figure out a RAM-cache system á la SSD-cache for harddrives |
| 16:37.34 | nevcairiel | they should build that, a ram disc that persist through reboots |
| 16:37.58 | nevcairiel | so just get a UPS, and you can run stuff off it =p |
| 16:40.18 | nevcairiel | hm i wonder, ssd caching for my storage drive, is it worth anything? =P |
| 16:40.52 | nevcairiel | some of the new boards come with mSATA slots for that |
| 16:43.05 | Shirik | http://freenode.net/privacy_change.html |
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| 16:44.34 | Adys | <Fisker> if some dick stole your computer |
| 16:44.35 | Adys | <Fisker> just remote it |
| 16:44.41 | Adys | you'd need the computer's ip.. |
| 16:45.31 | nevcairiel | Intel actually has tech for that |
| 16:45.40 | Fisker | not if it's setup correctly Adys |
| 16:45.42 | Fisker | and yeah nevcairiel |
| 16:45.52 | nevcairiel | just for anti-theft, not full remoting |
| 16:46.13 | Adys | nevcairiel: what kind of tech? |
| 16:47.04 | Fisker | remote killswitch :P |
| 16:49.15 | Thunder_Child | remote detonator > remote killswitch |
| 16:49.23 | Adys | ~Thunder_Child++ |
| 16:49.29 | nevcairiel | Adys: in combination with the 3G modem in laptops, it can be remotely disabled on a hardware level |
| 16:49.35 | airtonix | umadfisker? |
| 16:49.49 | nevcairiel | although consumer implementations are rather rare |
| 16:49.54 | nevcairiel | its more a corporate thing |
| 16:50.18 | nevcairiel | you can disable the device via an encrypted SMS message |
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| 17:23.07 | mikma | http://imgur.com/ |
| 17:23.30 | karl_w_w | spalling failure |
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| 17:24.07 | Adys | nevcairiel: is there a way to repartition / without unmounting it? or alternatively, is there a way to unmount / without having to pop a rescue cd? |
| 17:24.36 | Shirik | wow |
| 17:24.41 | Shirik | BBC takes april fools a little too far |
| 17:24.42 | Shirik | http://i.imgur.com/jgJqf.jpg |
| 17:24.49 | karl_w_w | bbc wins at april fools |
| 17:25.19 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27ugSKW4-QQ |
| 17:25.39 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dfWzp7rYR4 |
| 17:27.56 | BlackNet | that's kinda funny |
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| 17:33.00 | BlackNet | lol |
| 17:33.16 | BlackNet | the questions they ask when you cancel your membership is just idiotic |
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| 17:34.40 | Adys | BlackNet: "did one of our staff touch you in a bad place?" |
| 17:34.48 | BlackNet | lol |
| 17:34.53 | BlackNet | they employ priest now? |
| 17:39.28 | BlackNet | yea that should do it |
| 17:39.36 | BlackNet | odd's are they wont even read it |
| 17:40.20 | mikma | http://i.imgur.com/InG1v.png |
| 17:41.03 | BlackNet | speaking of suppressed, i need to finish my ATF forms |
| 17:42.19 | BlackNet | here is what i put down in the final box: to many bugs and lack of updates; lack of attention to areas that need work; to many abused areas; lack of colorblind friendly areas (bad design and color combo in extures); lack of care in textures); companies part to fix problem areas |
| 17:44.08 | BlackNet | might end up canceling my main account to |
| 17:44.42 | Adys | BlackNet: what are you exactly talking about? |
| 17:44.54 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 17:44.58 | BlackNet | with whta |
| 17:45.13 | Adys | er that |
| 17:45.51 | mikma | in the butt |
| 17:46.06 | BlackNet | the atf forms? |
| 17:58.43 | BlackNet | have to renew my ffl and finish this form 2 project im working on |
| 18:00.42 | Adys | Arrowmaster: ping |
| 18:02.04 | Shirik | what just happened to facebook o.o |
| 18:02.10 | Adys | Shirik: adblock |
| 18:02.18 | Shirik | ? |
| 18:02.39 | Adys | Well given that nothing happened to facebook, I'm guessing you're seeing a lot of cats |
| 18:02.49 | Shirik | no |
| 18:02.53 | Shirik | I don't use that shitty program |
| 18:03.06 | Shirik | "Your account is currently unavailable due to a site issue. We expect this to be resolved shortly. Please try again in a few hours." |
| 18:03.12 | Adys | Ah |
| 18:03.18 | Adys | it's facebook's aprils fools |
| 18:03.21 | Adys | they want you to use google+. |
| 18:03.26 | Shirik | yeah ok |
| 18:03.27 | Adys | You know, forever. |
| 18:06.08 | Fisker | i'm sorry Shirik |
| 18:06.17 | Fisker | sorry for you using facebook |
| 18:13.23 | Shirik | http://www.thinkgeek.com/interests/looflirpa/ee06/?cpg=yt |
| 18:15.09 | Cide | hi Shirik |
| 18:15.16 | Shirik | hi Cide |
| 18:15.23 | Cide | what's up in the hood? |
| 18:15.57 | Shirik | did you know I live in "the hood"? |
| 18:16.11 | Cide | if so that is amazing |
| 18:16.25 | Cide | does that mean you work in the hood also_ |
| 18:16.31 | Cide | since you have like a 5 minute drive it seems |
| 18:16.33 | Shirik | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hood_River,_Or |
| 18:16.37 | Shirik | it does! |
| 18:16.38 | Cide | YESS |
| 18:16.47 | Cide | glorious |
| 18:17.47 | Cide | Nickname(s): Windsurfing Capital of the World |
| 18:17.55 | Cide | soon "Nickname(s): Windsurfing Capital of the World, The Hood" |
| 18:17.58 | BlackNet | so why is it we have all suck ass movies in the past 4 years? |
| 18:18.24 | Cide | inception, king's speech, black swan, little red riding hood |
| 18:18.25 | Shirik | it actually is a pretty huge windsurfing place |
| 18:18.26 | Cide | all awesome movies |
| 18:18.41 | Cide | that's cool |
| 18:18.48 | karl_w_w | you live in the river Shirik? |
| 18:18.50 | olafski | I'm looking to buy a new pc, something within reasonable price/performance ratios.. is a core i3 or i5 good enough to play wow / diablo 3 for the next 3 years? |
| 18:19.00 | Cide | windsurfing would be awesome to be good at |
| 18:19.04 | Shirik | nothing is good enough for the next 3 years |
| 18:19.08 | Cide | then again, surfing would be better |
| 18:19.15 | Shirik | Cide: Trying to learn windsurfing in hood river is like trying to learn to surf in a tidal wave |
| 18:19.25 | Cide | well yeah |
| 18:19.30 | olafski | shirik: I guess that depends on your standards.. I have been using my e6600 for about 5 years now (with 8800gtx) |
| 18:19.38 | Shirik | e6600 sounds like an emachines |
| 18:19.46 | olafski | it's an intel though! |
| 18:19.58 | Cide | nothing is good enough for the next 3 years |
| 18:20.01 | Cide | except for Shirik's laptop |
| 18:20.14 | olafski | point taken, I'll ask my colleagues instead =) |
| 18:20.41 | Shirik | olafski: an i5 will probably get you far enough |
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| 18:21.01 | Shirik | however if you asked me, go with the i7 6 core |
| 18:21.24 | olafski | I can do dragon soul LFR reasonably well on my current pc, so I'm not looking for something that'll blow out a fuse here ;) when I bought my current pc it was pretty top of the line though |
| 18:21.31 | nevcairiel | The 6 cores are way to expensive |
| 18:21.33 | olafski | I'm looking at a budget of around 800 euro |
| 18:21.49 | olafski | (ex. monitor, though my current monitor doesn't have hdmi..) |
| 18:21.55 | Shirik | nevcairiel: Totally worth it, ableton's running with latency below 2ms right now, which is pretty impressive imo |
| 18:22.02 | Shirik | granted, my sound card is also doing a lot of the work |
| 18:22.16 | Cide | stick with your current case, mouse/keyboard/mousepad/monitor(/hard drive) |
| 18:22.22 | Cide | and you can get way better parts for 800 |
| 18:22.26 | Cide | than you would otherwise |
| 18:22.36 | olafski | hm. I did consider that.. :P |
| 18:22.40 | nevcairiel | wth is an ableton |
| 18:22.48 | nevcairiel | in any case, i bet my quad core can do the same |
| 18:22.53 | olafski | maybe I should, I did buy a new PSU 2 weeks ago :P |
| 18:23.06 | Cide | psu too yeah |
| 18:23.14 | nevcairiel | not much software can really utilize 6 cores |
| 18:23.31 | olafski | my pc currently sometimes "doesn't boot" (1 long, 3 short beeps), so I'm starting to get worried I should get a new one :P |
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| 18:23.45 | Shirik | ableton and premier both have no problem using all 12 logical cpus |
| 18:23.47 | Cide | what that means is in your bios manual |
| 18:23.49 | BlackNet | post codes. each beep sequence means something |
| 18:23.55 | olafski | yeah I googled it, gpu error |
| 18:24.02 | olafski | it's been doing this for about a year though :) |
| 18:24.13 | Cide | ableton's middle name is USE ALL THE RESOURCES |
| 18:24.29 | Shirik | hey, if it gets me near-realtime processing, I'm all for it |
| 18:24.30 | olafski | blah fine I'll build the pc myself then :P |
| 18:24.48 | Shirik | ableton reports a 1.97ms latency. I tried to get it lower but it just becomes distorted |
| 18:24.49 | Fisker | WHAT IS ABLETON ? |
| 18:24.55 | Cide | I was actually looking at upgrading my pc today as well |
| 18:25.00 | Cide | or rather, the one at my parents' |
| 18:25.01 | Fisker | lol |
| 18:25.02 | Fisker | making music |
| 18:25.06 | Shirik | Fisker: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sasha3.jpg |
| 18:25.06 | BlackNet | replaced mine somewhta recently |
| 18:25.16 | Fisker | you are a bad person Shirik |
| 18:25.24 | Cide | it's like 8 years old so I can't figure out if I can even keep my psu or hard drive or case |
| 18:25.40 | nevcairiel | if its an 8 year old PSU, i would replace it just to be safe |
| 18:25.46 | olafski | case should be fine I think? |
| 18:25.48 | Cide | psu is probably like 5 years old |
| 18:25.57 | Cide | yeah, but I need to figure out what form factors the case supports first |
| 18:26.02 | olafski | ah yes |
| 18:26.08 | Shirik | I seriously doubt it's an AT case |
| 18:26.14 | Shirik | unless it's a 486 |
| 18:26.16 | olafski | my psu is 2 weeks old.. mod xstream pro (wtf?) 500W, should be ok I guess |
| 18:26.20 | nevcairiel | if you stick to default ATX or mATX it should be fine |
| 18:26.33 | nevcairiel | but of course checking first doesnt hurt |
| 18:27.09 | Cide | amd athlon 64 x2 dual core processor 5200+ |
| 18:27.10 | Cide | 2.6 ghz yeahh |
| 18:27.21 | Cide | 5.6 windows experience index... not bad! |
| 18:27.31 | nevcairiel | me personally, i also like to change cases when i build a new PC, gives it more of a "new PC" smell.. err..feeling. :p |
| 18:27.38 | Cide | maybe it isn't that old |
| 18:28.14 | Cide | from 2005 |
| 18:28.17 | Cide | so almost |
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| 18:28.23 | olafski | I like my current case though nevcairiel, so it's a good idea |
| 18:28.37 | olafski | the only reason I wasn't planning on building it myself is that I'm careless and usually end up breaking something |
| 18:28.44 | olafski | and/or cutting my hands |
| 18:28.44 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:28.58 | olafski | I paid 30 euro to get this one built, why bother building it myself for that price tbh :) |
| 18:29.19 | olafski | but when you factor in that I already have the case and PSU I guess the difference becomes a bit bigger |
| 18:29.36 | olafski | I guess I should also look into some SSD.. 128GB should be enough for windows + 2 games I guess |
| 18:29.45 | nevcairiel | i dont think i ever paid someone to assemble a PC or bought a pre-assembled one |
| 18:29.45 | Cide | yep |
| 18:29.51 | Cide | if you're like Antiarc |
| 18:30.03 | Cide | you can run wow with taintlevel 2 or 3 on an ssd |
| 18:30.05 | Cide | in real time |
| 18:30.16 | nevcairiel | there is a taintlog 3 now? :d |
| 18:30.17 | olafski | :] |
| 18:30.23 | Cide | I think so |
| 18:30.31 | nevcairiel | when i was still playing more, i had WoW on my SSD as well |
| 18:30.35 | nevcairiel | i moved it off when i stopped |
| 18:30.43 | Cide | well he was like |
| 18:30.44 | olafski | what's the difference between socket 1156 and 1155 then? :s why do they have to make this so complicated nowadays :P I used to know all this stuff, but haven't bought a new pc in 5 years now |
| 18:30.55 | nevcairiel | olafski: 1155 is newer |
| 18:30.55 | Shirik | I didn't know there was a taintlevel 3 |
| 18:30.57 | Cide | "wow was running like shit so I moved it to the ssd, now it runs smooth as hell" |
| 18:31.03 | Cide | "do you have taintlog on" |
| 18:31.03 | nevcairiel | dont get 1156 |
| 18:31.03 | olafski | nevcairiel: see now that doesn't make sense to me at all :( |
| 18:31.05 | Cide | "..." |
| 18:31.22 | olafski | nevcairiel: but thanks, I probably would've fallen for that |
| 18:31.37 | nevcairiel | olafski: pick the cpu, then find a board to match that, not the other way around. :P |
| 18:31.39 | Cide | give the sockets some real fucking identifiers imo |
| 18:31.48 | Cide | should use the same rules as c++ identifiers |
| 18:32.10 | Cide | and no, not socket_1155 |
| 18:32.22 | nevcairiel | however you name sockets, if you're not keeping up to date no name is really going to help you much |
| 18:32.37 | foxlit | Shirik: taintlog 3 is a recurring joke |
| 18:32.44 | foxlit | see also: taintlog 42 |
| 18:32.50 | olafski | nevcairiel: yeah that's what I'm starting at :) and getting the same gpu I bought for my gf 2 weeks ago |
| 18:33.06 | nevcairiel | i have been around here for ever, and i never heard of the taintlog 3 or taintlog 42 joke |
| 18:33.42 | foxlit | oh noes :( |
| 18:33.42 | olafski | i5 2500 vs i7 2600 seems to have about the same price/performance ratio |
| 18:34.25 | foxlit | purl has, though. It typically comes up as a bogus suggestion when taintlog 2 is insufficient. |
| 18:34.25 | purl | foxlit: what are you talking about? |
| 18:34.39 | nevcairiel | see, not even purl knows |
| 18:34.44 | Cide | lol, win |
| 18:34.45 | foxlit | purl is adorable! |
| 18:35.21 | nevcairiel | ~taintlog |
| 18:35.21 | purl | somebody said taintlog was get BaudErrorFrame from http://downloads.curse.com/details/7853/ or do /console taintLog 1 |
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| 18:35.28 | Cide | what |
| 18:35.42 | nevcairiel | wtf |
| 18:35.45 | Stanzilla | O_o |
| 18:35.54 | nevcairiel | i click that link and it redirects me to http://legacy.curse.local |
| 18:36.01 | nevcairiel | seems like a aprils fools gone wrong :P |
| 18:36.02 | Cide | remove that shitty link |
| 18:36.24 | Cide | no, purl, taintlog is /console taintLog 1 |
| 18:36.30 | Cide | fuck you |
| 18:36.34 | Cide | no purl, taintlog is /console taintLog 1 |
| 18:36.42 | Cide | zzzzzz |
| 18:36.46 | nevcairiel | purl, no, taintlog is /console taintLog 1 |
| 18:36.46 | purl | okay, nevcairiel |
| 18:36.51 | Cide | what the fuck |
| 18:36.58 | Cide | stupidest syntax |
| 18:36.58 | nevcairiel | you have to start with purl |
| 18:37.03 | Cide | no I do not |
| 18:37.07 | Cide | see above! |
| 18:37.23 | olafski | my 5 year old gpu has 3/4 of the memory of a midrange one now? I would've thought gpu's use like 3-4gb now :P |
| 18:37.25 | nevcairiel | what above |
| 18:37.34 | Cide | (8:39:12 PM) Cide: no purl, taintlog is /console taintLog 1 |
| 18:37.39 | nevcairiel | that didnt work |
| 18:37.43 | Cide | exactly |
| 18:37.52 | Cide | but I still did it |
| 18:37.56 | Stanzilla | no |
| 18:37.57 | Stanzilla | nev did it |
| 18:37.58 | nevcairiel | like i said, you have to start the line with purl |
| 18:37.59 | foxlit | you have to start with purl [for it to work] |
| 18:38.04 | Cide | oh okay foxlit |
| 18:38.33 | Cide | eh |
| 18:38.34 | Stanzilla | Cide: umad? |
| 18:38.51 | Cide | gpu's seem to have focused more on the fixed pipeline concept and parallelizing stuff |
| 18:39.17 | Cide | you don't really need more gpu memory currently because games [other than rage] seem to optimize it to use <1GB anyway |
| 18:39.20 | Cide | at any given time |
| 18:39.43 | nevcairiel | memory is still slowly increasing, but yeah, games don't really up the texture memory requirements |
| 18:39.45 | olafski | I see |
| 18:40.23 | Cide | do silver power make good psu's? |
| 18:40.25 | olafski | alright :] so exciting :] just need to choose a motherboard and ssd now I guess.. and figure out if I can buy OEM windows when I don't have them build the PC for me |
| 18:40.29 | Cide | never heard of that brand before |
| 18:40.37 | Stanzilla | I have one |
| 18:40.45 | Stanzilla | and it doesnt fit into my case |
| 18:40.54 | Stanzilla | so it just sits there without being screwed in |
| 18:41.01 | Cide | excellent |
| 18:41.03 | Stanzilla | because it has the fan/cables on the wrong side |
| 18:41.05 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 18:41.13 | Cide | silver power it is then! |
| 18:41.20 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 18:41.21 | nevcairiel | silver power is just a resaler, they sell other brands with their stickers |
| 18:41.22 | Maldivia | olafski: that's where it helps to have MSDN access through work, if you want Microsoft products :P |
| 18:41.29 | Cide | ah |
| 18:41.46 | Cide | going with corsair anyway |
| 18:42.08 | olafski | maldivia: I do actually have a windows 7 business edition through MSDNAA.. but I don't know how many activations are left |
| 18:42.23 | Cide | do you get the motherboard screws with the motherboard or with the case? |
| 18:42.27 | nevcairiel | For the record, Corsair also has no own production, although they do provide designs to the producing companys |
| 18:42.34 | Cide | well fuck you nevcairiel |
| 18:42.35 | Cide | ! |
| 18:42.35 | nevcairiel | Cide: with the case, usually |
| 18:42.39 | Cide | weak |
| 18:42.55 | Maldivia | olafski: well, that's not an issue for me, I just press a key on the website and a new key is generated :) |
| 18:43.24 | olafski | maldivia: yeah.. issue for me though, as I left university last year |
| 18:43.35 | olafski | apparently I'm still allowed to use the licenses, but I can't get new ones |
| 18:43.47 | Maldivia | ahh yeah, that small technicality :P |
| 18:44.05 | nevcairiel | those MSDNAA licenses are not limited |
| 18:44.10 | Maldivia | yes they are |
| 18:44.20 | olafski | I've had to reactivate mine over the phone once |
| 18:44.25 | nevcairiel | if it claims that its activated too often, just call the microsoft number and have them unlock it |
| 18:44.43 | olafski | will that work for me though? |
| 18:45.00 | nevcairiel | you're replacing the PC, arent you? |
| 18:45.03 | olafski | considering this "not actually at university" situation |
| 18:45.04 | nevcairiel | why wouldnt it? |
| 18:45.14 | Maldivia | they don't know, do they? |
| 18:45.17 | nevcairiel | its a fully automated phone system |
| 18:45.19 | nevcairiel | they dont care |
| 18:45.26 | olafski | hmkay :P |
| 18:45.40 | olafski | how do you enter a windows key through a telephone? :( |
| 18:45.50 | nevcairiel | you get a special number-only key |
| 18:46.01 | olafski | guess I'll risk it.. bam saved another 80 euro |
| 18:46.09 | nevcairiel | i never had problems with that |
| 18:46.10 | olafski | ah sounds good :) |
| 18:46.12 | Cide | risk it how |
| 18:46.14 | nevcairiel | had to call that thing a few times |
| 18:46.31 | nevcairiel | but the license clearly states you're free to continue using it, as long as its not commercial |
| 18:46.43 | nevcairiel | it doesnt limit that to the same PC |
| 18:46.45 | nevcairiel | or anything |
| 18:47.08 | nevcairiel | it just states you're not allowed to install it on multiple PCs, but if you replace the old one .. technicallities :P |
| 18:47.11 | olafski | awesome, then I can just keep on using this license for years to come since windows 8 doesn't really eh.. excite me |
| 18:47.24 | olafski | oh.. well I do actually have it installed on another pc :$ |
| 18:47.29 | Cide | yeah, windows 8 scares me |
| 18:47.30 | olafski | I'm using vista on my current machine |
| 18:47.37 | nevcairiel | ew! |
| 18:47.43 | nevcairiel | i got like 4 win7 keys from university |
| 18:47.45 | nevcairiel | comes in handy |
| 18:47.51 | olafski | I'm pretty much the biggest microsoft fanboy I know, but I really can't see how windows 8 is an upgrade :s |
| 18:48.04 | Cide | english 32, english 64, <your language> 32, your language <64>? :P |
| 18:48.06 | Cide | that's what I have |
| 18:48.10 | nevcairiel | same! |
| 18:48.23 | nevcairiel | i also have keys for the servers and whatnot |
| 18:48.24 | olafski | I should've done that before I left :P |
| 18:48.27 | nevcairiel | i even use one of those now! |
| 18:48.37 | Maldivia | english 32, english 64, english+sp1 32, english+sp1 64, repeat in danish :P |
| 18:48.43 | Cide | oh yeah |
| 18:48.45 | Cide | sp1 now too |
| 18:48.51 | nevcairiel | i was out before that :( |
| 18:48.59 | Cide | bwahahaha |
| 18:50.02 | Maldivia | but since I have admin access to the site here, I can just reissue licenses :P |
| 18:50.52 | olafski | final 2 questions I guess: which brand of SSD's is good, and do asus/asrock/msi/gigabyte make good motherboards? ;) |
| 18:51.32 | olafski | iirc asrock was kinda budgetty but they make pretty expensive stuff nowadays |
| 18:51.47 | Cide | ocz vortex 3 is really good based on the last time I read reviews |
| 18:51.52 | Cide | it's also what I have at home |
| 18:52.06 | Cide | it's one of the more expensive ones though in $/gb |
| 18:52.19 | Maldivia | I really like asus boards |
| 18:52.38 | olafski | yeah I never really went wrong with asus either, guess I'll go for that |
| 18:52.43 | olafski | cheers cide =) |
| 18:52.58 | olafski | eh, cheers everybody who answered ;-) |
| 18:53.11 | Cide | if you're getting an ssd you should really read reviews |
| 18:53.17 | Cide | there are pretty huge performance differences |
| 18:53.26 | Cide | unless you go for a vortex 3 in which case you can trust me |
| 18:53.28 | Cide | -_- |
| 18:53.48 | Cide | intel also makes good ssd's I believe |
| 18:54.04 | olafski | yeah I will :) saw a nice "budget ssd" review last week, but that was 64GB only, which seems a bit small |
| 18:54.15 | Cide | you don't want to do budget ssd I think |
| 18:54.25 | Cide | well, maybe |
| 18:54.43 | olafski | well the budget part was about the size I think, not necessarily cheap stuff |
| 18:54.53 | olafski | just that that site usually reviews larger ones |
| 18:54.59 | Cide | ssd's are not like some other components where there is no difference in quality between brands |
| 18:55.19 | Cide | since it's quite new technology they're still figuring out stuff like algorithms for maintaining performance after many writes and stuff |
| 18:55.56 | olafski | yeah, ssd seems like one of the things that might last less long than a PSU for instance =) |
| 18:56.03 | olafski | also less long than a regular magnetic disk? |
| 18:56.25 | Cide | yep |
| 18:56.28 | Cide | maybe |
| 18:56.28 | olafski | I found last week while doing some maintenance on my fileshare pc, that it was still using a 40GB IDE drive :P |
| 18:56.49 | Cide | ocz vertex* 3 has a 2 or 3 year warranty at least |
| 18:56.52 | Maldivia | well, the longlivity of an SSD has vastly improved from the early generations |
| 18:58.21 | olafski | 136 euro for 120GB, doesn't sound too bad |
| 18:58.48 | Elkano | Maldivia, but didn't they start to use cheaper chips that can handle less write cycles, too? |
| 18:59.34 | Cide | maybe the cheap stuffz |
| 19:00.06 | Cide | the high end stuff handles more writes with less performance deterioration I'm prety sure |
| 19:00.15 | olafski | hm my case doesn't have any spots where I can put in 2.5" drives I think :s |
| 19:00.28 | Cide | check the ssd |
| 19:00.30 | Kaylin | you can get a 3.5 to 2.5 conversion thing |
| 19:00.36 | Cide | most come with a 2.5 to 3.5 adapter bundled |
| 19:00.38 | olafski | yeah guess I'll be needing that |
| 19:00.41 | Cide | or you can buy it separately |
| 19:00.50 | olafski | I have those side mounted hard drive things now |
| 19:00.57 | Adys | Arrowmaster: ping |
| 19:00.57 | olafski | was hoping it would fit in there, they install so nice and easy |
| 19:01.08 | Cide | mine came with one bundled anyway |
| 19:01.15 | Cide | and from what I could tell most of the ones I looked at did |
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| 19:03.45 | olafski | did you upgrade the firmware on your ocz? random review I found says you should do that to prevent errors |
| 19:04.57 | Cide | I think that was upgrading to a better sandforce controller |
| 19:05.04 | Cide | but I think when I looked it was already using that one |
| 19:05.07 | Cide | but I can't recall |
| 19:05.16 | Cide | I haven't upgraded it though |
| 19:05.34 | Cide | I should probably double check when I get back home :P |
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| 19:10.25 | Fisker | Parnic |
| 19:10.29 | Fisker | i love you |
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| 19:16.42 | Maldivia | SO cute.... http://www.thinkgeek.com/interests/looflirpa/ee0b/ |
| 19:19.59 | nevcairiel | the problem with SSDs is that they went to the smaller manufacturing process, that makes the chips cheaper, smaller, more efficient, and the SSDs larger, however, it also reduces the number of write cycles one cell can endure |
| 19:20.09 | Fisker | old nevcairiel |
| 19:20.54 | nevcairiel | for the record, if you want a "good" SSD right now, i would look at the Intel 520 |
| 19:21.06 | nevcairiel | not the cheapest, though |
| 19:21.13 | Fisker | i want the 256GB one |
| 19:22.39 | nevcairiel | the intel 520 come in 240gb |
| 19:22.55 | nevcairiel | i've been thinking about getting a smaller one for my new htpc |
| 19:24.09 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: psh, you just need the new sony vaio Q :) |
| 19:25.12 | nevcairiel | the screenshot of that thing looks terrible, btw |
| 19:25.18 | nevcairiel | er, image, not screenshot |
| 19:26.09 | nevcairiel | like they took some barbie laptop or something, should've rahter photoshopped something better together |
| 19:26.34 | Fisker | whatever nevcairiel |
| 19:26.49 | Fisker | btw isn't it still technically 256GB |
| 19:26.52 | Fisker | just 240GB available |
| 19:26.56 | Fisker | and the rest for some internal shit |
| 19:27.00 | nevcairiel | its sandforce, so yes |
| 19:27.05 | nevcairiel | but they do sell it as a 240gb |
| 19:27.09 | starlon | tilts. |
| 19:27.10 | Fisker | yeah yeah |
| 19:27.47 | Fisker | Blizzard forums sucks sometimes |
| 19:27.54 | Fisker | some guy spammed the forums a few weeks ago |
| 19:28.00 | Fisker | was told this was his last warning!11 |
| 19:28.05 | Fisker | then he has spammed 3 times since |
| 19:28.08 | Fisker | ;_; |
| 19:28.10 | starlon | first problem -- accessing Blizzard forums. |
| 19:28.14 | Fisker | true starlon |
| 19:28.20 | Fisker | it's alright on the US forums |
| 19:28.24 | starlon | heh |
| 19:28.34 | Fisker | US GM's have no issues debunking some bullshitters |
| 19:28.45 | starlon | lol |
| 19:28.57 | Fisker | i still recall the one where he was totally up in arms about having lost his flight skill |
| 19:29.17 | Fisker | and that he should get it back immediately since useless GM support did nothing but say he didn't have it! |
| 19:29.33 | Fisker | Then the GM posted some chatlog of him saying he was going to try and buy a mount and ask a GM for the flight skill |
| 19:29.37 | Fisker | to a friend |
| 19:29.39 | Fisker | derp |
| 19:29.52 | Fisker | instant winner |
| 19:30.05 | nevcairiel | those are always awesome |
| 19:30.35 | nevcairiel | if you try to trick the GMs into giving you something, don't chat about it. :P |
| 19:31.12 | Kaylin | unless it's like psst I'm going to try to trick a GM into reading this support ticket |
| 19:31.15 | Kaylin | and they're like fffffffff |
| 19:32.01 | Adys | anyone good with zsh? |
| 19:32.17 | nevcairiel | i use it, but i wouldnt say i'm particularly good with it |
| 19:32.55 | Adys | nevcairiel: http://paste2.org/p/1963220 |
| 19:33.21 | nevcairiel | a quote in a quote |
| 19:33.51 | Fisker | wireshark |
| 19:34.33 | Jammer | Fisker: the "last warning" probably meant before the first ban... then you can probably get like 2-3 bans before actually losing your posting priviledges or getting your account banned for good |
| 19:34.37 | olafski | nevcairiel: there's a 120GB one too, for 150 euro.. also sounds fine |
| 19:35.12 | olafski | I can't really find a proper "which SSD should I get" guide.. the only reasonably well explained article I found tells me to stay away from sandforce controllers, though that post might be old :< |
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| 19:36.24 | nevcairiel | the easiest way to find some comparisons is usually to dig up a review of the most recent SSD to be released, and see how it compares to the other SSDs mentioned in that review :P |
| 19:36.32 | olafski | good idea :P |
| 19:37.43 | nevcairiel | for me there are basically two choices, either the Intel 520, which is a Sand Force, or the Crucial m4, which is not a Sand Force controller |
| 19:38.23 | nevcairiel | I dunno about some of the others like the Samsung one |
| 19:38.32 | nevcairiel | they have their own controller, so would need to really find a test of one |
| 19:40.05 | haste | http://www.kodak.com/ek/US/en/Home.htm :D |
| 19:40.33 | nevcairiel | Ackis would buy it |
| 19:42.05 | olafski | so.. cpu, gpu, motherboard, memory (4x4GB) and an ssd.. I have a feeling I'm missing something |
| 19:42.39 | nevcairiel | well if you still have case, psu and possibly optical drive |
| 19:43.04 | haste | olafski: soundcard! *hides* |
| 19:43.05 | Maldivia | audio? monitor? mouse? keyboard? |
| 19:43.09 | olafski | oh right, optical drive |
| 19:43.12 | olafski | thanks :) |
| 19:43.16 | Maldivia | floppy? |
| 19:43.17 | olafski | maldivia: nah I have all of those :) |
| 19:43.18 | nevcairiel | don't forget a cooler for the cpu, although the boxed coolers are "ok" for the SNB CPUs |
| 19:43.18 | Ressy | regular speed harddrive as well? |
| 19:43.35 | olafski | hm. cooler.. |
| 19:43.40 | olafski | I was going to go for the boxed one |
| 19:43.48 | Ressy | no overclocking cpu then. |
| 19:43.53 | nevcairiel | if you dont overclock its fine |
| 19:44.02 | olafski | and I don't intend to OC, so the only thing that matters is will it keep it cool enough and is it reasonably quiet |
| 19:44.08 | haste | but the huge non-boxed ones are great if you want a silent PC! |
| 19:44.33 | olafski | the cooler I have now is so big the store didn't want to assemble it for me because they were afraid it might break the motherboard in shipping |
| 19:44.41 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:44.46 | haste | has one of those. |
| 19:44.55 | olafski | so I said sure, I'll do it then, but it's your problem if I break it |
| 19:44.57 | nevcairiel | i do too |
| 19:44.59 | haste | they're awesome, you just put a 120x120 17dB fan on them,BAM |
| 19:45.04 | olafski | next they call back 30 minutes later "sorry we can't get it off anymore" :P |
| 19:45.28 | nevcairiel | yeah, one of those 1000 rpm case fans that are super quiet, and you never hear your PC |
| 19:45.30 | olafski | it's exactly the size of 10 CD jewelcases.. nice, but not very practical |
| 19:45.36 | nevcairiel | although i still hear the damn GPU when i'm playing :P |
| 19:45.46 | Maldivia | haste: and soundcards are still usable... only very few onboard comes with DD-Live or similar |
| 19:45.51 | olafski | yeah I guess if I get a quiet cooler, and an ssd, my pc should be rather quiet |
| 19:46.04 | haste | Maldivia: hi, I used optical out and a DAC :P |
| 19:46.06 | olafski | oh btw ressy: I bought a 2tb drive 2 weeks ago, intend to use that :) |
| 19:46.12 | nevcairiel | If you want/need DDLive, could as well hunt for a MB that has it |
| 19:46.12 | haste | s/used/use/ |
| 19:46.49 | Maldivia | haste: yeah, my previos motherboard supported that as well, but not my current, so bought a soundcard :) |
| 19:47.06 | nevcairiel | they build motherboards without optical out? |
| 19:47.10 | haste | I use my motherboards SPDIF right now |
| 19:47.16 | haste | but I have a couple soundcards as well :P |
| 19:47.26 | Ressy | If you want quiet, don't go with the Antec 900 & its 200mm fan in the top |
| 19:47.30 | olafski | what's ddlive now :( do I need to think about other stuff? |
| 19:47.41 | Maldivia | no no, it had optical out... but dind't have license for DD-Live etc, so they could actually encode to optical out, thus it only works for pass-thru |
| 19:48.04 | nevcairiel | optical works just fine for stereo pcm without any encoding |
| 19:48.20 | Maldivia | olafski: DD-Live is the dolby license requires for encoding a multi-channel into asingle PCM stream |
| 19:48.46 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: yeah, stereo... I wan surround :P |
| 19:48.49 | olafski | that doesn't sound familiar at all maldivia :( |
| 19:48.53 | nevcairiel | so get HDMI :P |
| 19:49.05 | olafski | I just use a simple 2.1 set so I guess I won't need that :s |
| 19:49.12 | nevcairiel | 8 channels of uncompressed goodness! |
| 19:50.09 | Maldivia | well, my surround sound receiver does handle hdmi :P |
| 19:50.50 | Antiarc | hahah, yeah, Cide, I remember that |
| 19:50.56 | Antiarc | I turned it on at one point and forgot about it |
| 19:51.01 | nevcairiel | i do however also have a sound card ... somewhere in some box .. which has the DTS Connect license (DTS version of DD Live) |
| 19:51.02 | Antiarc | And wondered why WoW was so slow :P |
| 19:51.57 | olafski | alright, 760 euro.. I'll sleep on it and decide this week, thanks again everyone :) |
| 19:52.11 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: yeah, was considering that as well, when looking at cards, but then I found out that my surround sound receiver had issued with DTS Connect :P |
| 19:52.44 | nevcairiel | olafski: you should wait one more month, then the new Intel CPUs will be released, and you can either get one of those for the same price, or get the one you picked now for cheaper |
| 19:53.12 | Maldivia | or two months, then another of the component you picked probably had a replacement released as well :P |
| 19:53.22 | nevcairiel | well CPU is rather major. :P |
| 19:53.33 | olafski | hrm. |
| 19:53.41 | olafski | well I don't want to risk being too late for diablo 3.. |
| 19:54.00 | olafski | won't it take a few weeks before the new CPU's will cause the price of the older ones to drop? |
| 19:54.44 | Maldivia | usually happens within days |
| 19:55.02 | olafski | hmm. and do we have a specific date on which these new CPU's will be released? |
| 19:55.05 | olafski | CPUs* |
| 19:55.28 | nevcairiel | 29th is the latest known date |
| 19:55.55 | Maldivia | olafski: http://www.pcworld.com/article/252948/intel_ivy_bridge_chips_launch_dates_leaked.html |
| 19:58.14 | nevcairiel | anyway, just letting you know. I usually feel bad when i just bough a shiny new piece of hardware just to realize it was replaced by a even shinier piece just a month later =P |
| 20:00.50 | olafski | I can imagine nevcairiel :) |
| 20:01.00 | olafski | I'll keep that in mind in my considerations |
| 20:01.07 | Adys | nevcairiel: you any good with zsh regexes? |
| 20:01.11 | Adys | its fucking me over here |
| 20:01.23 | haste | use quotes on that shit Adys ! |
| 20:01.31 | Adys | haste: i fixed that bit |
| 20:01.45 | haste | zsh regexpes are a mess btw |
| 20:02.00 | haste | settings can change too much of how they behave |
| 20:02.02 | Adys | haste, nevcairiel: http://paste2.org/p/1963245 |
| 20:02.10 | haste | no browser atm! |
| 20:02.17 | Adys | CURL IT |
| 20:02.22 | haste | but html! |
| 20:02.56 | Adys | haste: http://dpaste.com/725375/plain/ |
| 20:03.36 | Adys | i wanna grab the id key, my regex is search='"id":\w*"\(?http://goo.gl/[[:alnum:]]+)"' |
| 20:03.40 | Adys | but right now its not grabbing anything at all so idk |
| 20:05.29 | olafski | nevcairiel: seems it's only the highest end ivy bridges coming on 29th of april |
| 20:05.46 | nevcairiel | same level as the 2500 really |
| 20:05.54 | nevcairiel | there is a 2500 equivalent there |
| 20:06.10 | olafski | hm. |
| 20:06.15 | nevcairiel | the i5-3550 i think |
| 20:06.54 | olafski | man how am I to see that they are similar :/ I figured 1000 higher must mean it's much more high end :P |
| 20:07.04 | olafski | I currently have a 2600K on my list |
| 20:07.15 | foxlit | ew, posix regex? |
| 20:07.39 | nevcairiel | the replacement for the 2600k is the i7-3770k |
| 20:07.46 | nevcairiel | but it will most likely be more expensive :p |
| 20:08.12 | olafski | :) |
| 20:08.20 | olafski | well, if the current one drops in price that'd be fine too |
| 20:08.38 | olafski | but I imagine that drop won't be more spectacular than about 50 euro |
| 20:08.38 | haste | Adys: always abused grep and so on for such =/ |
| 20:08.48 | olafski | i.e. around 200 instead of 260 euro |
| 20:09.30 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 20:10.03 | Fisker | so Adys fixed the script ? |
| 20:11.22 | olafski | I just started watching Idiocracy.. narration makes me think of transformers :] |
| 20:13.38 | Adys | theres narration in idiocracy? |
| 20:13.49 | Adys | apart from the first couple mins |
| 20:13.55 | Adys | Fisker: no i did not |
| 20:14.03 | olafski | yeah first couple of minutes |
| 20:14.11 | olafski | the voice sounds just like the old transformers |
| 20:14.16 | olafski | and the music reminisced of it as well |
| 20:14.16 | Adys | oh |
| 20:14.17 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/hoers_art.jpg |
| 20:14.35 | olafski | I can't help it, when I hear a familiar voice I have to look it up.. in this case it's not the same guy I think |
| 20:14.42 | foxlit | http://www.kodak.com/ek/US/en/Home.htm |
| 20:14.55 | olafski | also, peter cullen is the most awesome voice actor ever |
| 20:15.10 | nevcairiel | foxlit: old, haste posted that already! :p |
| 20:15.22 | Cairenn|afk | mikma: lol, wtf? |
| 20:15.24 | foxlit | nevcairiel: it's kittens, though |
| 20:17.56 | haste | I like how every newcomer that gets released on Rephlex (the label), get rumoured to be Richard D. James' sideprojcet :P |
| 20:18.07 | mikma | cairenn: yes, quite |
| 20:18.14 | Cairenn | hehhee |
| 20:20.26 | foxlit | still think Onwards! is the best instrumental motif ever. |
| 20:21.09 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEEJV3Ecwps [totally not a rickroll, honest!] |
| 20:21.34 | Maldivia | well, it's not 2008 anymore, so :) |
| 20:21.58 | A-KO | it's 2008 as long as I don't want to feel old |
| 20:21.59 | A-KO | kk :P |
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| 20:22.27 | Maldivia | well, 2008, youtube did the april fools prank, where every featured video was a rickroll, if you remember |
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| 20:49.42 | haste | http://pbfcomics.com/254/ not sure if trolling or just failing |
| 20:49.53 | haste | PBF254-The_Scourge_of_Butter_Castle.jpg: Adobe Photoshop Image, 900 x 300, RGB, 3x 8-bit channels |
| 20:56.59 | Dagmar | Faaaaailing. |
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| 21:18.22 | Shirik | ha --> Uncertainty. Frustrating as it may be, the rules of quantum campaigning dictate that no human being can ever simultaneously know both what Mitt Romney’s current position is and where that position will be at some future date. This is known as the “principle uncertainty principle.” |
| 21:18.28 | Shirik | http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/01/opinion/sunday/a-quantum-theory-of-mitt-romney.html?_r=2 |
| 21:34.43 | Adys | Arrowmaster, nevcairiel: https://github.com/grml/grml-etc-core/commits/master \o/ |
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| 21:45.00 | foxlit | Shirik: but suppose you had two people? :) |
| 21:45.38 | foxlit | they could then each know one of those things, and tell a third person, who'd then know both. Nobel prize, please. |
| 21:51.24 | Cide | that would go against the rules of quantum campaigning though |
| 21:51.44 | Cide | so either the rules are not rules or you are wrong! |
| 22:09.11 | foxlit | "I'm Commander Crabby, and this is my favorite forum on the website!", |
| 22:19.21 | alestane | I dunno, Cairenn, I don't know if you're ever going to top HighRoller. |
| 22:19.37 | Cairenn | alestane: it was a good one |
| 22:19.44 | Cairenn | but some of the others have been, too |
| 22:19.58 | Cairenn | the addon store was one |
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| 22:21.24 | alestane | That one was pretty good...it had that little shot of credibility. |
| 22:22.02 | Cairenn | We were all kind of drawing a blank on what to put up this year, there are so many other things we're juggling at the same time. |
| 22:22.48 | foxlit | "we've developed a revolutionary system to determine how lightweight an addon is" |
| 22:23.03 | Cairenn | that could have been fun |
| 22:24.07 | foxlit | "... solved the halting problem and can now scan addons for bugs when you upload them" |
| 22:24.22 | foxlit | "automatically updated all patch 1.11 addons to Cataclysm" |
| 22:24.37 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:24.59 | Cairenn | so where the heck were you when we were trying to come up with something? :p |
| 22:25.38 | foxlit | "Minion now includes a Genius feature and can automatically suggest new addons for you" |
| 22:25.46 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:26.17 | foxlit | [I imagine the latter can actually be accomplished, since you track download histories] |
| 22:26.30 | Cairenn | heh |
| 22:26.38 | Thunder_Child | but this is not like music, you dont want similar addons |
| 22:26.52 | foxlit | this is more like books |
| 22:26.59 | foxlit | if you like X, you will also enjoy Y |
| 22:27.11 | Thunder_Child | but they are usually similar things |
| 22:27.59 | foxlit | yes yes, you have a point there. You don't want similar addons. |
| 22:28.25 | Thunder_Child | you could have done a cheap shot at wowmatirx and have minion 2.0 that looks exactly like wowmatirx |
| 22:29.01 | foxlit | You do, however, want addon suggestions based on what other people have installed. If you have addon X, and everyone else who has addon X also has addon Y, you probably want addon Y. |
| 22:29.31 | Thunder_Child | possibly |
| 22:30.45 | foxlit | "Cairenn: so where the heck were you when we were trying to come up with something?" << *where* were /you/, when you were trying to come up with something? :) |
| 22:30.54 | Cairenn | :p |
| 22:31.06 | Thunder_Child | sounded like she was thinking of 15 things at once at that time |
| 22:31.10 | Cairenn | busy being brain dead |
| 22:31.22 | Cairenn | or more correctly, brain fried |
| 22:31.45 | Thunder_Child | mmmm....with a nice chianti |
| 22:31.50 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 22:37.09 | kd3 | ugh; too damned hot already |
| 22:37.30 | Thunder_Child | super windy here, i lvoes it |
| 22:37.33 | Thunder_Child | loves* |
| 22:38.50 | Thunder_Child | ~weather klax |
| 22:39.00 | Thunder_Child | err... |
| 22:39.04 | Thunder_Child | wtf purl |
| 22:39.13 | Thunder_Child | ~weather |
| 22:39.28 | Thunder_Child | ~weather klax |
| 22:39.33 | Thunder_Child | ... |
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| 22:44.21 | zenzelezz | ~weather encn |
| 22:44.29 | zenzelezz | looks like klax sucks |
| 22:44.45 | Thunder_Child | you suck |
| 22:44.49 | Thunder_Child | ~weather 111 |
| 22:47.53 | Thunder_Child | ~weather kcqt |
| 22:48.22 | Thunder_Child | ~weather ksmo |
| 22:49.00 | Thunder_Child | ~weather kbur |
| 22:49.07 | Thunder_Child | ok, i give up |
| 22:49.32 | kd3 | lessee... |
| 22:49.34 | kd3 | ~weather kvpc |
| 22:49.43 | kd3 | k, noaa's busted |
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| 23:20.24 | Thunder_Child | "From N at 16mph gusting to 30mph" nom nom nom |
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| 23:37.23 | pompy | http://nerdreactor.com/2012/04/01/microsoft-apple-and-google-to-join-forces-in-unified-mobile-os/ lul |
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| 23:38.59 | pompy | (4/1/2012 6:08:57 PM) foxlit: "I'm Commander Crabby, and this is my favorite forum on the website!", ..... lol. |
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| 23:48.50 | kd3 | ugh. color-inverted youtube is annoying |
| 23:51.43 | zenzelezz | color-inverted? |
| 23:51.55 | kd3 | red->blue, for instance |
| 23:52.15 | kd3 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifn6lKvJhPs is doing it for me |
| 23:53.01 | zenzelezz | I don't seem to be getting that :-o Unless I'm mistaken about what's supposed to be in different colors |
| 23:53.37 | kd3 | what color are the hearts on the display near the bottom? |
| 23:54.09 | Cide | red |
| 23:54.19 | kd3 | then, huh. I wonder if my flash is broken? |
| 23:55.24 | zenzelezz | the hearts in the video? |
| 23:55.28 | kd3 | yah |
| 23:55.33 | zenzelezz | yeah, those are red here too |
