| 00:04.14 | cogwheel | Jamash: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3988299444?page=2#23 |
| 00:08.51 | foxlit | http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Right_to_Arm_Bears |
| 00:18.23 | BlackNet | whut |
| 00:19.51 | BlackNet | foxlit what do you carry |
| 00:29.05 | Maldivia | BlackNet: so what you're saying is, that foxlit is a bear? |
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| 00:43.00 | pompy | baseball86 |
| 00:52.59 | Thunder_Child | ~random |
| 00:54.50 | Ackis | I wonder what pompy's password is |
| 00:54.59 | pompy | not that |
| 00:55.07 | Ackis | anymore at least ;) |
| 00:55.30 | Thunder_Child | i have done that far too many times here |
| 00:56.11 | Ackis | Thunder_Child: I once put my password in a commit note |
| 00:57.21 | Ackis | at least his password isn't iwantto69torhal like mine |
| 00:57.58 | Thunder_Child | at my last job i remember one CEO's pass was backdooraccess |
| 00:58.27 | Thunder_Child | i could never talk to that man with ha straight face after that |
| 01:00.23 | Maldivia | great password though |
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| 04:17.10 | Thunder_Child | sweet, now we are getting thunder and lightning |
| 04:17.22 | mckenziemc | no children? |
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| 04:22.37 | Thunder_Child | i said thunder, not storks |
| 04:24.31 | Arrowmaster | %^&*^%$%^ |
| 04:24.41 | Arrowmaster | 0.14 seconds |
| 04:25.01 | Arrowmaster | i lost this race by 0.14 seconds |
| 04:27.49 | Mr_Rabies | i really hope the beta waves ramp up soon :( |
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| 04:46.15 | Fisker | hey Arrowmaster |
| 04:53.22 | Fisker | oh ok Arrowmaster |
| 04:53.25 | Fisker | it's like that |
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| 04:56.11 | Fisker | yay nevcairiel |
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| 05:05.07 | mckenziemc | cool story Fisker |
| 05:05.10 | mckenziemc | go back to bed |
| 05:08.49 | Fisker | i have to work mckenziemc |
| 05:09.14 | mckenziemc | not until later |
| 05:13.47 | Fisker | haha Adys |
| 05:13.51 | Fisker | [–]metaljonas 246 point 1 dag siden |
| 05:13.52 | Fisker | How can you afford to give out 50,000 more keys? You have already given out what, 25,000? |
| 05:13.56 | Fisker | [–]Pkeod[S] 952 point 1 dag siden |
| 05:13.57 | Fisker | It's not cheap. We are spending 425,000 theoretical dollars on these giveaways. |
| 05:13.59 | Fisker | :D |
| 05:36.42 | Arrowmaster | "You have lot of guts my friend, unfortunately I can see them splattered across mountain. I will be scared for life, thank you very much." |
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| 07:03.05 | bluspacecow | Maldivia: does the Beta installer copy anything from Live ? |
| 07:03.11 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4254456014#5 |
| 07:05.12 | Elkano | no, bluspacecow, streaming client |
| 07:05.27 | bluspacecow | ? |
| 07:05.45 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 07:05.50 | bluspacecow | it doesn't as its a streaming client |
| 07:05.53 | bluspacecow | oh hai2u fisker |
| 07:06.06 | Fisker | we went over this yesterday bluspacecow |
| 07:06.20 | bluspacecow | oh rly ? |
| 07:07.07 | Fisker | yes rly |
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| 07:14.17 | Maldivia | bluspacecow: no, nothing is copied |
| 07:14.48 | Fisker | i wait Maldivia |
| 07:15.19 | Maldivia | you're so brave and patient |
| 07:15.32 | Fisker | indeed |
| 07:28.23 | Fisker | haste my man |
| 07:28.35 | Fisker | i wish i wasn't at work |
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| 07:50.25 | Fisker | damn hipsters Kalroth |
| 07:50.43 | Kalroth | ya |
| 07:50.53 | Kalroth | did you get your nvidia card yet |
| 07:50.57 | Kalroth | why not |
| 07:51.44 | Fisker | at work |
| 07:52.02 | Fisker | but post danmark sent me a text that it was on its way |
| 07:52.06 | Fisker | hence "damn hipsters" |
| 07:52.08 | Maldivia | because DST is the work of the devil... |
| 07:52.16 | Fisker | because since when has post danmark started using sms? |
| 07:52.21 | Fisker | and where did they get my number from? |
| 07:53.56 | Fisker | i need to somehow pass 6 hours |
| 07:54.02 | Fisker | and make them feel like only 1 hour |
| 08:00.04 | bluspacecow | anyone else observe their beta folder and noticed it goes to 30 GB then back down to 17 GB ? |
| 08:00.29 | AcidWeb | get me beta key - i will check ;p |
| 08:00.37 | Fisker | i observed my GTX 680 just waiting for me in the mail bluspacecow |
| 08:00.45 | bluspacecow | wait |
| 08:00.45 | amro | bluspacecow: it's called a filesystem boner |
| 08:00.45 | bluspacecow | i has VMs! |
| 08:00.57 | bluspacecow | windows 7 retail DVD in a VM ftw |
| 08:01.59 | amro | Fisker: here, take your mind off things http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEPL1SilkJ8 |
| 08:03.03 | Fisker | work amro |
| 08:04.24 | haste | same Fisker |
| 08:04.54 | Fisker | yeah haste |
| 08:04.57 | Fisker | sucks to be at work |
| 08:05.09 | haste | sucks to be at work when I'm the only one here |
| 08:05.41 | amro | sucks for Fisker to be at work when I'm trying to troll him |
| 08:05.52 | Fisker | almost same here haste |
| 08:06.07 | Fisker | there's like noone here |
| 08:06.38 | amro | if an employee slacks in an empty office and there's nobody around to see, does he get fired? |
| 08:07.01 | haste | is actually on the phone. |
| 08:07.14 | Maldivia | bluspacecow: checled Data/Cache? |
| 08:07.24 | zenzio | haste is so 90s |
| 08:07.34 | haste | no, the fucking newspaper is |
| 08:07.42 | zenzio | that does sound likely |
| 08:07.43 | bluspacecow | how so Maldivia ? |
| 08:07.47 | zenzio | which one, haste? |
| 08:07.51 | haste | smaalenenes ! |
| 08:08.12 | haste | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHj2usp7Yl0 very related |
| 08:08.13 | zenzio | don't recall ever hearing about that one |
| 08:08.18 | haste | it's a local one :P |
| 08:08.40 | Fisker | you work for a newspaper? |
| 08:08.42 | Fisker | haha! |
| 08:08.47 | haste | I don't |
| 08:09.03 | amro | so they publish a digital edition, but don't know how to use email? |
| 08:09.23 | haste | I can't cancel through e-mail |
| 08:10.32 | amro | oh, if you ever want to stop payments of any kind, be glad you don't have to mail in a signed statement |
| 08:11.31 | haste | glad that isn't required |
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| 08:33.46 | Fisker | http://xkcd.net/1034/ <-pff i don't use reddit so why would i +1 a realdoll rom? |
| 08:36.27 | Maldivia | bluspacecow: just figured that it could be cache generation and clearing that would cause the size fluctuations |
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| 09:08.44 | karl_w_w | Fisker why don't I have one of these "GTX 680s"? |
| 09:10.59 | bluspacecow | is there a similar program to Instruments on Windows ? |
| 09:19.04 | karl_w_w | depends what you want from it |
| 09:19.05 | bluspacecow | hmmm anyone in beta wanna pastebin their connection.log from a successfull login ? |
| 09:19.17 | bluspacecow | @karl_w_w what its opening or copying |
| 09:21.30 | karl_w_w | process explorer |
| 09:22.34 | karl_w_w | sort of comes close :P |
| 09:23.08 | karl_w_w | it'll show u what files it has open handles on |
| 09:23.17 | karl_w_w | but not what it's doing right now I think |
| 09:24.47 | Fisker | because karl_w_w |
| 09:24.51 | Fisker | sure bluspacecow |
| 09:24.54 | Fisker | wanna have sex? |
| 09:25.05 | bluspacecow | kk |
| 09:25.47 | Fisker | http://pastebin.com/W25A3Xpa |
| 09:25.50 | Fisker | dat pastebin |
| 09:27.25 | Fisker | 4 hours bluspacecow |
| 09:27.34 | Fisker | i need to make them disappear |
| 09:27.39 | bluspacecow | oh my |
| 09:28.53 | karl_w_w | what's all this then? |
| 09:35.37 | AcidWeb | http://i1.kwejk.pl/site_media/obrazki/2012/03/dafb28cf3e7c016b5d732dccbcb41fc4.jpg?1332750129 |
| 09:40.11 | Fisker | getting yourself assassinated seems counter-intuitive to the point of achieving full happiness |
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| 09:43.15 | Fisker | haste |
| 09:43.17 | Fisker | 26. marts 201211:21Ankommet til omdeling 4640 Faxe |
| 09:43.19 | Fisker | fapfapfap |
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| 10:36.05 | starlon | tilts. |
| 10:37.48 | bluspacecow | http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/rdo8w/he_played_through_the_entire_maths_class_the/ |
| 10:43.47 | Fisker | haste |
| 10:43.52 | Fisker | post danmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark |
| 10:43.56 | Fisker | shakes fist |
| 10:45.49 | haste | Fisker: post-haste? |
| 11:05.09 | Fisker | nope |
| 11:05.20 | Fisker | package guy was there |
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| 11:05.25 | Fisker | no package :( |
| 11:10.08 | karl_w_w | you have no package, Fisker? |
| 11:10.30 | haste | they took his balls! |
| 11:12.45 | Fisker | i must sue norway and destroy post danmark haste |
| 11:12.50 | Fisker | you have left me no alternative |
| 11:13.05 | haste | I'll await your progress |
| 11:24.08 | Fisker | :o haste |
| 11:24.09 | Fisker | dicks |
| 11:24.11 | Fisker | deeeeeeeeks |
| 11:24.27 | Fisker | 26. marts 201213:03Pakke uden omdeling |
| 11:24.40 | Fisker | so much lies |
| 11:28.40 | Fisker | just fucking lazy because they probably connected bad at the package center |
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| 11:31.34 | zenzio | one does not simply omdele into Mordor |
| 11:37.42 | Ackis | anyone want a steam key for faery solitaire? |
| 11:41.32 | Adys | Ackis: Fisker did yesterday |
| 11:41.33 | Adys | dunno now. |
| 11:41.55 | Fisker | i'm signed up for the steam gifts promotion at the moment |
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| 11:42.02 | Fisker | so if i don't get that one sure |
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| 11:42.22 | Fisker | but with like a 100k keys out by now i wouldn't be surprised if they have run out of people to give the game now :D |
| 11:43.20 | Fisker | only 7k entries on steamgifts |
| 11:43.25 | Fisker | with 25000 copies being given out |
| 11:44.02 | karl_w_w | I bet you did |
| 11:44.22 | Ackis | steam gifts? |
| 11:44.23 | Corrodias | i got one from a forum thread a while back that had a list that was apparently taken from reddit that one of the developers may have posted |
| 11:44.45 | Ackis | yeah that's where I got mine (they're giving out 3 total to everyone who asks) |
| 11:45.18 | Corrodias | if i had a penny for every video game i have, you could choke me to death with them pretty easily |
| 11:45.43 | Corrodias | an interesting thing, now that the game isn't new, their goal seems to be to get as many people to become familiar with their work as possible |
| 11:45.45 | karl_w_w | a generous offer Corrodias but I think you're much more useful to me alive |
| 11:46.17 | karl_w_w | so presumable my system time updated it while I was typing that message |
| 11:46.20 | Corrodias | almost as if fans recognize talent and base preorders and crowdsource funding on reputation... |
| 11:46.25 | Corrodias | GASP |
| 11:46.36 | karl_w_w | either that or I managed to read Corrodias's message and write my own within 1 second |
| 11:46.57 | Corrodias | it is possible. i do seem to operate telepathically at times. |
| 11:47.01 | Corrodias | you may have heard it coming. |
| 11:47.08 | karl_w_w | :P |
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| 11:54.35 | Fisker | http://www.steamgifts.com/ Ackis |
| 11:55.17 | Corrodias | oh what is this |
| 11:55.31 | Corrodias | oh no... MORE GAMES? |
| 11:59.12 | Corrodias | this site is confusing. first, it doesn't anywhere explain what its purpose is, although what i gather from exploring it is that it seems to be a place for people to offer games to the public for free. can't be sure, though. and one rule says "Always thank submitters. Thanking is not required to enter a giveaway.", which is just extra confusing. |
| 11:59.20 | Corrodias | "do it, but you don't have to" |
| 12:00.05 | Corrodias | and it sure has a lot of rules for what amounts to how you can give people free things |
| 12:01.53 | Corrodias | it's an interesting idea, but i take issue with this cumbersome implementation. |
| 12:01.59 | karl_w_w | there's no copyright claims anywhere on it, but also no "we are not affiliated with valve" disclaimer |
| 12:02.25 | Corrodias | hate sites that fail to explain what they actually are, anywhere, and leave it to the visitor to infer that |
| 12:02.42 | Corrodias | there are official sites for video games that never actually explain what the game is. |
| 12:03.04 | Corrodias | they'll tell you how great it is, and utterly fail to sell it, because you are left with no idea what it's like. |
| 12:05.04 | Corrodias | what kind of incentives is it offering the people providing gifts to jump through their hoops? it doesn't say there are any. |
| 12:12.15 | Fisker | it's unofficial |
| 12:12.30 | Fisker | and giving gifts gives you points |
| 12:12.38 | Fisker | which in turn means you can get gifts |
| 12:12.45 | Fisker | i think |
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| 12:28.39 | Fisker | 1 hour haste |
| 12:28.46 | Fisker | 1 hour until i take this entire system down |
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| 12:29.19 | Corrodias | again i look at this "firefall" web site, and it's truly amazing |
| 12:29.37 | Corrodias | The content of the site doesn't seem to offer any clues as to its nature as a game, whatsoever. Except maybe the videos. It's just a great example of obfuscated web site design. Were it not for the titlebar, i'd have no idea what this game is supposed to be. |
| 12:29.49 | Corrodias | (mmo fps) |
| 12:29.58 | Corrodias | (or maybe just mo fps. who the fuck knows.) |
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| 12:37.06 | Adys | anyone knows an extension for this? https://groups.google.com/a/googleproductforums.com/forum/#!category-topic/gmail/composing-and-sending-messages/ckx2MZ8HcYU |
| 12:42.03 | Fisker | i would not want that :( |
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| 12:49.25 | harl | hi |
| 12:55.25 | zenzio | heya |
| 12:58.08 | Elkano | where's Cairenn when you found cat pictures? http://d.asset.soup.io/asset/3027/7613_6e23.jpeg |
| 13:01.26 | Lopeppeppy | What, I am the chopped liver? |
| 13:01.46 | Lopeppeppy | The first cat is going to take your arm off. The second cat just go back from an alien probe. Poor kitty! |
| 13:07.04 | Fisker | OH MY GOD haste |
| 13:07.07 | Fisker | Post Danmark |
| 13:07.15 | Fisker | they use the technology |
| 13:07.21 | haste | from 1830s? |
| 13:07.25 | Fisker | nope! |
| 13:07.34 | Fisker | instead of writing on a piece of paper that i can get the package tomorrow |
| 13:07.40 | Fisker | they sent me a text saying i can get my package today |
| 13:07.43 | Fisker | whoop whoop |
| 13:07.52 | Fisker | still, how they got my phone number is odd |
| 13:07.57 | haste | I usually just abuse the tracking number, then pick it up when it arrives |
| 13:08.05 | haste | THEN get the note saying it arrived the day after :D |
| 13:08.13 | Fisker | i just say "package for me at <address>" |
| 13:08.22 | Fisker | they don't even bother asking for my legitimation :D |
| 13:08.55 | haste | in norway they say: "package arrived from X with code Y", then you go to the office and say you want to pick up package <four letter/number combo> |
| 13:09.05 | haste | they might ask who the package is sent to |
| 13:11.04 | Fisker | oh there definitely is a conduct for these types of situations |
| 13:11.38 | Fisker | you have to give them the "You weren't home"-slip + a photo ID to get the package |
| 13:11.48 | Fisker | If they did shit as they were supposed to |
| 13:12.17 | Fisker | but they probably just know me all too well :D |
| 13:12.40 | Fisker | small town and all that |
| 13:13.40 | haste | we always have to pick up the package at the post office |
| 13:13.53 | haste | they don't send out packages that don't fit in the mailbox |
| 13:16.29 | Fisker | bam haste |
| 13:16.38 | Fisker | they still do that here |
| 13:16.43 | Fisker | though i wouldn't mind if they didn't |
| 13:17.16 | Fisker | but normally the package can't be picked up the same day it arrives for some bullshit policy reason :P |
| 13:17.35 | haste | we can do that :) |
| 13:17.49 | haste | I've picked out packages minutes after they've arrived |
| 13:20.31 | Fisker | yeah i think it's actually because they wait for the package to arrive back |
| 13:20.40 | Fisker | but the packages has to be delivered before 14:30 |
| 13:20.51 | Fisker | so i don't see why it shouldn't be available after that |
| 13:21.29 | haste | at my post office, packages arrive from the sorting facility at around 14:15 |
| 13:21.36 | haste | they're usually processed by 14:30 |
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| 13:51.56 | karl_w_w | in australia they dont even tell you there is a package |
| 13:52.04 | karl_w_w | because they "deliver" it |
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| 14:16.59 | airtonix | hey Fisker |
| 14:17.02 | airtonix | mad? |
| 14:18.45 | airtonix | karl_w_w: you have to rent a post office box for that bad service |
| 14:19.16 | airtonix | australia post is pathetic... it's pretty much the welfare payment for overweight idiots |
| 14:19.53 | airtonix | at least their recent website upgrade included something sane like a resful api |
| 14:20.05 | airtonix | restful* |
| 14:25.27 | Maldivia | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53_qvMQfvOE -- so that's how you talk people into going to stockholm... |
| 14:29.56 | mikma | rtharper: 17:25 <Maldivia> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53_qvMQfvOE -- so that's how you talk people into going to stockholm... |
| 14:33.58 | Fisker | no airtonix |
| 14:33.58 | Fisker | glad |
| 14:34.00 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 14:34.02 | Fisker | wanna join my club? |
| 14:36.14 | airtonix | so does your computer run faster with your new piece of shaped metal? |
| 14:38.21 | mikma | fisker: he's already in my "We hate fisker" club |
| 14:38.40 | Fisker | he can be in more than one group at a time mikma |
| 14:38.49 | mikma | he's german, he can't do that |
| 14:38.55 | mikma | one group until death |
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| 14:54.13 | Shirik | http://www.thisiscolossal.com/2012/03/anatomical-neon-blown-glass-human-organs-containing-neon-lights-by-jessica-lloyd-jones/ |
| 14:56.08 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, there's my appendix! And my spleen! |
| 14:56.57 | Lopeppeppy | Here we go, Shirik. http://iheartguts.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8&products_id=254 |
| 14:57.22 | Shirik | :P |
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| 14:58.14 | Maldivia | mikma: you don't think he would have noticed it otherwise ?:) |
| 14:59.25 | Maldivia | ... but yeah, I did kind of paste it with rtharper and jnwhiteh in mind :P |
| 15:00.18 | nevcairiel | Fisker: what club is that? |
| 15:01.40 | Fisker | the GTX 680 owners club |
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| 15:06.50 | durcyn | my 680's probably better than yours Fisker |
| 15:07.13 | nevcairiel | i thought membership was implicit by buying the card |
| 15:09.32 | Maldivia | you have to agree with and sign then eula, tos etc to be included |
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| 15:19.10 | Fisker | hmm nevcairiel |
| 15:19.18 | Fisker | EVGA put 300.83 drivers on the disc |
| 15:19.32 | nevcairiel | disc was probably pressed before 301.10 was available |
| 15:19.41 | Fisker | obviously |
| 15:20.01 | Fisker | but i heard the driver was massively bugged |
| 15:20.09 | nevcairiel | seems fine so far |
| 15:20.13 | nevcairiel | but i only played MoP |
| 15:20.18 | Fisker | i mean the 300.83 one |
| 15:20.21 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 15:20.22 | Fisker | it was fixed in 300.99 |
| 15:20.27 | Fisker | another pre-release driver |
| 15:21.47 | AcidWeb | They dont have much choice |
| 15:21.52 | mikma | maldivia: he wouldn't ;) |
| 15:22.09 | Dagmar | How well do video overlays work with that one? |
| 15:22.19 | Dagmar | I had to go back to 275.33 to stop the flickering. |
| 15:23.08 | nevcairiel | video overlays are so '99 |
| 15:23.20 | nevcairiel | i would never even try to use em =p |
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| 15:25.20 | Dagmar | You might not, but VLC and wmplayer.exe do. |
| 15:25.26 | Dagmar | ...also flash videos. |
| 15:25.47 | nevcairiel | wmplayer doesnt use overlays, it uses the enhanced video renderer |
| 15:25.55 | Dagmar | Then it's using them. |
| 15:26.15 | Dagmar | The result is that most video playback gets royally screwed up. |
| 15:26.36 | nevcairiel | video works just fine, and has with all recent drivers |
| 15:26.41 | nevcairiel | for me, anyway |
| 15:26.56 | Dagmar | Didn't work with 296.10 or the previous four releases on my 550 Ti |
| 15:27.08 | Dagmar | It's been screwing up for a lot of people. |
| 15:28.00 | Dagmar | After doing a few days of digging around, I finally found some people on the nVidia forum who said it works if you roll all the way back to 275.33, and sure enough that stopped it. |
| 15:28.13 | karl_w_w | vlc doesnt use overlay |
| 15:28.26 | nevcairiel | nothing these days should be using overlay. :) |
| 15:29.18 | Dagmar | You know what? I don't give a damn if it uses paint-soaked weasels to render things. It flickers, and that's the verbiage the other people with the problem were using. |
| 15:29.34 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 15:30.03 | karl_w_w | drivers are part of the reason i didnt buy nvidia when i chose my current card :P |
| 15:30.19 | Dagmar | I use Linux, so that decision is made--for the same reson. |
| 15:30.21 | nevcairiel | AMDs drivers are orders of magnitude worse |
| 15:30.27 | karl_w_w | uh huh |
| 15:30.35 | karl_w_w | people always say that nevcairiel |
| 15:30.43 | Dagmar | ATI/AMD drivers make me want to burn the computer. |
| 15:30.45 | karl_w_w | yet I've not had a single problem |
| 15:31.05 | Dagmar | You've been very lucky, then |
| 15:31.17 | karl_w_w | actually i lie ive had one problem |
| 15:31.38 | karl_w_w | but the problems woith nvidia drivers were persistent and much more annoying |
| 15:32.14 | haste | main issue I have with nvidia's blob, is that I can't rotate _one_ screen, witohut loosing acceleration |
| 15:34.11 | Corrodias | can anybody name some of these issues? |
| 15:34.14 | Corrodias | besides that one |
| 15:34.37 | karl_w_w | current or past? :P |
| 15:35.18 | Corrodias | hmm. hard to tell from context which you two were talking about. |
| 15:35.28 | Dagmar | The only problem I've really had with nVidia drivers in about five years has been the occasional round of burning nouveau off the filesystem. |
| 15:35.39 | karl_w_w | im talking about past wrt nvidia |
| 15:35.43 | Dagmar | ...and that's not exactly their fault. |
| 15:36.30 | karl_w_w | for the longest time the majority of nvidia drivers would blue screen trying to resume from standby |
| 15:36.36 | Corrodias | i'm actually vaguely familiar with the kinds of issues drivers usually have on nvidia's side, as Dagmar brought up before with the overlay thing |
| 15:36.38 | karl_w_w | dont know if that one still happens |
| 15:36.45 | Corrodias | you'll have a long streak with a particular little problem |
| 15:36.49 | Dagmar | Without nouveau in there derping it up, or the entire PCI bus going insane due to ASPM ACPI bugs in the kernel, I've had no problems |
| 15:37.22 | Corrodias | i'm not too familiar with the way AMD does things. |
| 15:37.50 | Corrodias | choosing the right nvidia drivers means spending a couple of hours poking around forums, seeing what people say about various recent versions |
| 15:38.05 | karl_w_w | amd you get the latest one :P |
| 15:38.15 | AcidWeb | i always used newest nvidia beta drivers |
| 15:38.18 | Corrodias | doesn't work any better, but at least it's simpler |
| 15:38.21 | Dagmar | With nVidia you generally just grab the latest and you're done |
| 15:38.23 | AcidWeb | _never_ had any problem |
| 15:38.30 | haste | Corrodias: twin view doesn't support the full xinerama spec, lack of xrandr >1.2, twinview can only rotate ALL THE SCREENS, not a single |
| 15:38.35 | Dagmar | This is the first time I've not had the latest nVidia driver "just work" |
| 15:38.40 | haste | unless you want AMD/ATi issues :D |
| 15:38.46 | Corrodias | i've never had any problem doing a lot of things that i wouldn't advise you to do |
| 15:38.52 | Corrodias | that is an irrelevant statement. |
| 15:39.37 | Corrodias | haste, that is a lot of words i don't know. :o uh, okay, what are some amd driver problems? |
| 15:39.52 | karl_w_w | amd drivers list their problems |
| 15:39.53 | haste | I don't know of any |
| 15:40.04 | haste | I havne't used AMD/ATi since Radeon 9800 :D |
| 15:40.30 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 15:40.38 | haste | hey Fisker |
| 15:40.39 | karl_w_w | http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalystSoftwareSuiteVersion122ReleaseNotes.aspx |
| 15:40.43 | Fisker | i'm happy |
| 15:41.10 | karl_w_w | amd problems tend to relate to particular games |
| 15:41.21 | karl_w_w | never seen one that's been system-wide |
| 15:42.54 | Corrodias | reading this stuff is just kind of depressing. it must be fucking amazingly hard to develop a 3d program these days. |
| 15:43.10 | Corrodias | "Skipping the in-game cinematics when running Dragon Age 2 in DirectX 11 mode no longer causes random stuttering." -- how many combinations of factors there must be that can go into something like this |
| 15:43.10 | nevcairiel | nvidias drivers also have a list of problems in the release notes, doesn't mean its in any way complete for any company =p |
| 15:44.02 | karl_w_w | amd actually update theirs :P |
| 15:44.10 | nevcairiel | or so you think |
| 15:44.15 | karl_w_w | they'd have to seeing as they dont have persistent problems like nvidia |
| 15:44.17 | nevcairiel | they randomly rotate some things in and out |
| 15:44.31 | Dagmar | Corrodias: THat would be why I had to ban someone in #minecraft the other day for stubbornly insisting that it's trivial to make a 3D app that runs on Linux, Mac, and Windows in raw C. ;) |
| 15:44.58 | karl_w_w | hah |
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| 15:45.04 | haste | Corrodias: John Carmack complained about 3D drivers having too many workaround in them, making it more difficult than it should be |
| 15:45.10 | Dagmar | Dude was like "Well, Quake does it." |
| 15:45.18 | Fisker | this is hilarious |
| 15:45.20 | Fisker | https://twitter.com/#!/BenThePCGuy/status/184283190654021632 |
| 15:45.20 | Corrodias | if opengl has a C interface, maybe you could render an untextured cube in an empty world |
| 15:45.23 | Dagmar | Quake's also had a decade of work put into it. |
| 15:45.27 | Fisker | "@BenThePCGuy @microsoftstore. VERY CLASSY MOVE!! This is why I love msft product. Apple would never do this. Stay classy!!!" |
| 15:45.53 | haste | nobody knows the story behind that Fisker |
| 15:45.54 | Fisker | So it's classy to redefine the terms of the contest and tell the guy he didn't win and after massive PR scandal they cave in and give him his just deserved rewards? |
| 15:45.55 | haste | NOBODY |
| 15:45.55 | Fisker | :o |
| 15:46.01 | Fisker | everybody does haste |
| 15:46.04 | nevcairiel | haste: which is the result of 3D apps being broken and the GPU driver having to clean up after them ... circle of hell. :p |
| 15:46.12 | Fisker | Some guy won the contest MS was having about being the fast phone |
| 15:46.13 | haste | nevcairiel: y :D |
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| 15:46.31 | Corrodias | drivers shouldn't fix broken programs. but what do you do when your competitor runs all the games fine? |
| 15:46.41 | Fisker | and after he won (Looking up weather in two cities) the store suddenly said that he had to look up cities in two different states |
| 15:46.48 | Fisker | and denied him his win |
| 15:46.55 | Fisker | so a post on reddit later |
| 15:47.23 | karl_w_w | Corrodias: when a gpu runs all games fine without workaround the devil will ice skate to work |
| 15:47.27 | Dagmar | http://androidcommunity.com/galaxy-nexus-owner-wins-microsoft-competition-gets-stiffed-for-prize-20120326/ maybe |
| 15:48.05 | Corrodias | karl_w_w: no, it's impossible, not least because the games themselves are broken |
| 15:48.35 | Corrodias | the drivers can make them work by breaking their own rules. they shouldn't. but what are you going to do, let the other company take the entire market? |
| 15:48.54 | Corrodias | and it's been going on too long to stop now |
| 15:50.09 | Fisker | indeed Dagmar |
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| 15:51.55 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 15:51.59 | Shirik | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-26/a123-replacing-defective-batteries-that-led-to-fisker-shutdown.html |
| 15:53.01 | Shirik | I only read the headline, that's ok right? |
| 15:53.32 | karl_w_w | is something happening on the 5th of april? |
| 15:53.46 | Shirik | cinco de avril |
| 15:53.49 | karl_w_w | got that date in my head for some reason |
| 15:54.12 | Shirik | apparently it's "Christian Feast Day" |
| 15:54.20 | Shirik | oh |
| 15:54.24 | Shirik | the 6th is good friday |
| 15:54.24 | karl_w_w | that must surely be it |
| 15:54.28 | Shirik | maybe that's why |
| 15:54.42 | Lopeppeppy | We're feasting this far ahead of time? Cool. |
| 15:55.21 | rtharper | mikma, Maldivia, sounds like the way forward to me =p |
| 15:55.39 | karl_w_w | i need an iphone 4s just so I can ask it what's happening on the 5th |
| 15:55.57 | rtharper | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:57.05 | karl_w_w | oh! |
| 15:57.16 | karl_w_w | 5th is when I come off my P plates |
| 15:57.23 | karl_w_w | see I knew I knew |
| 15:58.30 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:59.14 | bluspacecow | P plates? |
| 15:59.17 | bluspacecow | you P on plates ? |
| 15:59.54 | Fisker | god dam.....*shutdown noise* |
| 15:59.58 | Lopeppeppy | I never would! |
| 16:00.10 | Maldivia | rtharper: well, I did kind of disagree on that part |
| 16:00.38 | rtharper | Maldivia: Do you think it's fair to call any place that? |
| 16:00.40 | karl_w_w | bluspacecow: in australia we have to display plates with a P on them similar to L plates for 2 years after getting our licenses |
| 16:01.22 | Lopeppeppy | P is for... beginner? Pray for your life? What? |
| 16:01.38 | karl_w_w | who knows :P |
| 16:01.41 | karl_w_w | passer! |
| 16:02.26 | karl_w_w | actually it varies by state, some places it's 3 years |
| 16:02.47 | karl_w_w | probationary |
| 16:04.08 | Lopeppeppy | Probationary makes sense. |
| 16:04.20 | Maldivia | rtharper: if any place, it would be Copenhagen, as it was at one point |
| 16:04.31 | rtharper | I see =p |
| 16:04.47 | rtharper | really likes Copenhagen |
| 16:13.54 | pompy | Fisker: did you get excited when the Denmark lottery messaged u saying u won millionnss!? and then sent u another message saying.. "oops, nevermind, sorry"! |
| 16:14.09 | Fisker | nope |
| 16:14.10 | pompy | http://www.digitalspy.com/odd/news/a373082/300-people-incorrectly-told-they-are-lottery-winners-in-denmark.html |
| 16:14.19 | Fisker | i don't donate money to losers |
| 16:14.24 | pompy | lol |
| 16:14.45 | Fisker | also it wasn't millions |
| 16:14.47 | Fisker | it was billions |
| 16:14.56 | pompy | zillions! |
| 16:16.13 | Mr_Rabies | are battletags in the D3 beta yet? |
| 16:18.46 | Fisker | yes Mr_Rabies |
| 16:18.48 | Fisker | been for years |
| 16:19.38 | Mr_Rabies | you are |
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| 16:38.33 | Maldivia | Mr_Rabies: and in MoP as well |
| 16:39.33 | Mr_Rabies | sweet, i really hope they get implemented soon |
| 16:40.28 | Mr_Rabies | all the benefits of realID without having to worry about giving out personal details to people on the internets |
| 16:43.00 | Corrodias | so what's this battletag thing? |
| 16:43.21 | Maldivia | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:43.42 | Corrodias | i haven't kept up on their realid scheme. what does it let you do, besides talk to each other? |
| 16:44.02 | Maldivia | Corrodias: example: Maldivia#1397 |
| 16:44.05 | Lopeppeppy | Facebook on WoW!!! |
| 16:44.24 | Maldivia | it's just battle.net-wide friends list |
| 16:44.40 | Corrodias | does it do anything that the other thousand instant messaging networks don't already do? |
| 16:44.56 | Maldivia | it works within Diablo, WoW and Starcraft |
| 16:45.25 | Corrodias | that is, it's integrated into the client, rather than operating in a separate window? |
| 16:45.36 | bluspacecow | ye |
| 16:45.46 | Corrodias | well, i guess that's something. i hope it was worth all that controversy. |
| 16:46.36 | nevcairiel | wasnt the controversy onyl about realid, not battle tag? |
| 16:46.47 | Corrodias | yeah, but that's what i was asking about. |
| 16:47.00 | bluspacecow | and only one aspect of their proposed implementation to do with the forums. |
| 16:47.59 | Corrodias | right; people just weren't going to make much use it, what with the whole personal info sharing thing, aside from that. |
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| 16:50.04 | Mr_Rabies | cogwheel: you can also make groups/raids across realms using it |
| 16:50.08 | Mr_Rabies | er |
| 16:50.11 | Mr_Rabies | Corrodias |
| 16:50.14 | Mr_Rabies | sorry, cogwheel :< |
| 16:50.45 | cogwheel | I AM SO OFFENDED THAT YOU WOULD ACCIDENTALLY PING ME RWWARRRR |
| 16:51.01 | cogwheel | sips coffee |
| 16:51.51 | pompy | still waitin cogwheel!? |
| 16:51.56 | cogwheel | yup |
| 16:52.13 | nilyaK | maybe it wasn't really an accident! |
| 16:52.25 | pompy | same |
| 16:52.35 | cogwheel | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4253967408 |
| 16:52.52 | Lopeppeppy | Awww, you gots a club for it and everything! |
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| 17:03.58 | bluspacecow | Peppy ! Halp! |
| 17:04.41 | bluspacecow | :| |
| 17:04.52 | bluspacecow | i forgot how to turn and off name plates |
| 17:05.00 | bluspacecow | haven't played in a while |
| 17:05.01 | alestane | Ctrl-V |
| 17:05.10 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.12 | bluspacecow | ty |
| 17:05.13 | alestane | Or V, or Shift-V, etc. |
| 17:05.34 | Lopeppeppy | V is for "these damn things block my line of Vision", bluspacecow. |
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| 17:06.17 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 17:06.27 | cogwheel | heigh Fisker |
| 17:06.35 | Fisker | what is that? |
| 17:06.50 | cogwheel | dunno. looks like English, but not quite... |
| 17:10.20 | bluspacecow | y would a shaman advise me to pop TW on the last boss on End of Time ? |
| 17:11.02 | Stanzilla | he does not want to lose a GCD |
| 17:11.36 | Kaylin | we had one who hadn't trained it lol |
| 17:11.40 | bluspacecow | @cogwheel u mad ? |
| 17:11.51 | cogwheel | no? why? |
| 17:12.01 | bluspacecow | oh nothing |
| 17:12.43 | bluspacecow | nice ping btw |
| 17:12.52 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
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| 17:14.33 | bluspacecow | Peppy |
| 17:14.41 | bluspacecow | Lopeppeppy: I sleepy |
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| 17:16.18 | Lopeppeppy | Then go to bed, silly duckling. |
| 17:16.46 | bluspacecow | kk |
| 17:16.50 | bluspacecow | QUACK! |
| 17:16.51 | bluspacecow | ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
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| 17:19.27 | Fisker | hey blu |
| 17:19.28 | Fisker | damnit |
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| 17:58.08 | karl_w_w | well well |
| 17:58.16 | karl_w_w | You've been awarded 1 months of Curse Premium! |
| 17:58.26 | karl_w_w | that's the entirity of the email |
| 17:59.43 | Torhal|work | ZOMFG! |
| 17:59.49 | Torhal|work | Or something. |
| 18:00.20 | karl_w_w | and it is true |
| 18:00.23 | karl_w_w | I wonder why |
| 18:01.57 | Lopeppeppy | Random lottery? |
| 18:02.11 | Torhal|work | karl_w_w: You have an AddOn, aye? |
| 18:02.16 | karl_w_w | a few |
| 18:02.38 | Torhal|work | That would be why. Apparently one of them gained some notoriety. |
| 18:02.48 | AcidWeb | addon authors have free premium |
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| 18:03.05 | art3mis | hola senorita |
| 18:03.09 | art3mis | s |
| 18:03.14 | karl_w_w | not all of them AcidWeb :P |
| 18:03.28 | AcidWeb | i know |
| 18:03.33 | Torhal|work | You have to have at least one AddOn which reaches a certain threshold. |
| 18:03.52 | AcidWeb | still if i got one that mean that threshold is not high ;p |
| 18:04.50 | AcidWeb | "Authors should now have free premium if you have a project with at least 1000 downloads" |
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| 18:05.31 | Torhal|work | Didn't realize it was publicized, which is why I said 'threshold' :) |
| 18:06.40 | Lopeppeppy | oooh la la, fame and fortune shall be yours for the next month! |
| 18:07.05 | karl_w_w | so this is life on the A list |
| 18:07.27 | Lopeppeppy | Don't blink, you'll miss it! |
| 18:08.25 | AcidWeb | hehe |
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| 18:16.47 | art3mis | hehe awesome! |
| 18:17.02 | art3mis | a free month of curse premium cuz a crap load of weirdos download hkui! |
| 18:22.05 | karl_w_w | actually it was http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/mailtrack :P |
| 18:24.08 | AcidWeb | :-) |
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| 18:40.33 | Lunessa | station |
| 18:40.54 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa-dear. |
| 18:41.15 | Adys | anyone on kde or gnome right now? |
| 18:41.19 | Adys | Arrowmaster? nevcairiel? |
| 18:41.31 | Adys | I need your value of $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP and your DE version |
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| 18:55.42 | Lunessa | Ooo.. New version of Virtual Box… |
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| 18:57.25 | Arrowmaster | Adys: not set |
| 18:57.30 | Adys | DE? |
| 18:57.33 | Arrowmaster | gnome3 |
| 18:57.43 | Adys | not unity right? |
| 18:58.04 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 18:58.08 | Arrowmaster | mutter or whatever it is |
| 18:58.39 | Adys | anyone able to test on unity, xfce, lxde, kde? |
| 19:01.27 | art3mis | ya know what amuses me most about unity |
| 19:01.55 | art3mis | its that great deals of time and effort were poured into kde and gnome to get away from that interface and everyone just sorta fell back into it |
| 19:02.23 | Stanzilla | unity is bullshit :< |
| 19:02.33 | art3mis | i thought i jsut said that |
| 19:02.39 | Stanzilla | :) |
| 19:02.58 | art3mis | its like we dont wanna be like windows! |
| 19:03.05 | art3mis | lets be like a fucking iOS phone |
| 19:03.09 | art3mis | thatll show em! |
| 19:03.32 | art3mis | i can only imagine how horrid unity must be on a big monitor or multiple monitors with high res |
| 19:03.48 | art3mis | oh and as a side note |
| 19:04.00 | art3mis | someone hacked up a webtop on the SGSII epic touch phone |
| 19:04.10 | art3mis | runs debian natively |
| 19:04.14 | art3mis | its all sexy n stuff |
| 19:04.33 | art3mis | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1562138 |
| 19:04.35 | art3mis | see |
| 19:04.45 | Fisker | hey |
| 19:04.52 | art3mis | hi |
| 19:04.54 | Cide | um |
| 19:04.58 | Fisker | hey Cide |
| 19:04.59 | Fisker | y u um? |
| 19:05.09 | TC-Work | whats the best way to iterate through an array of unknown size? |
| 19:05.11 | Cide | I'm pretty sure the point of a user interface is to be useful |
| 19:05.24 | Cide | find the size, TC-Work |
| 19:05.29 | Cide | (what language?) |
| 19:05.34 | TC-Work | bash |
| 19:05.43 | Cide | why.. |
| 19:05.46 | Adys | TC-Work: killall -9 yourself |
| 19:05.46 | Cide | use python |
| 19:05.58 | Cide | whether or not it's similar to windows should not be a metric |
| 19:05.59 | TC-Work | i know python as well i know bash |
| 19:06.08 | Adys | TC-Work: for obj in array: |
| 19:06.11 | Fisker | whats the best way to iterate through an array of unknown size in dos prompt? |
| 19:06.11 | Adys | python^ |
| 19:06.14 | TC-Work | which is to say, not at all |
| 19:06.23 | Adys | TC-Work: what are you trying to do? |
| 19:06.40 | TC-Work | pull in a list of machines to ssh into and grep for the ram |
| 19:06.44 | Adys | Cide: kde and gnome devs are in their mobile trip atm. they want to make something useful on tablets, and disregard keeping something useful on desktop |
| 19:06.51 | Adys | ugh |
| 19:07.08 | Adys | TC-Work: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/bash-iterate-array/ |
| 19:07.16 | Adys | for var in "${ArrayName[@]}" |
| 19:07.25 | Adys | oh good god |
| 19:07.29 | Cide | that's a metric |
| 19:07.32 | Adys | i cant believe i just pasted that |
| 19:07.38 | Adys | it makes me feel dirty |
| 19:07.39 | Cide | how similar it is to windows is not |
| 19:07.45 | Fisker | bash bash bash |
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| 19:25.36 | art3mis | cide: you actually think that unity is more useful that xfce gnome or kde? |
| 19:26.15 | Cide | I don't have an opinion in the matter |
| 19:26.21 | art3mis | aww |
| 19:26.57 | Cide | You've been awarded 1 months of Curse Premium! |
| 19:26.58 | Cide | what the fuck |
| 19:26.58 | art3mis | and here i had a "what happen to you man you used to be cool" |
| 19:26.58 | art3mis | all ready for yur response ;) |
| 19:26.58 | art3mis | everyone got a free month |
| 19:26.58 | Cide | why |
| 19:26.58 | art3mis | why not |
| 19:27.15 | art3mis | maybe someone submitted an email address that breaks mysql ;) |
| 19:27.51 | art3mis | like little bobby drop_tables |
| 19:28.06 | Cide | I'm not saying it's negative |
| 19:28.06 | Cide | I'm asking for the reason |
| 19:28.06 | art3mis | deeloper appreciation? |
| 19:28.06 | art3mis | with a V |
| 19:28.17 | art3mis | whats wierd is that *I* got one |
| 19:28.35 | art3mis | i had totally fergot i had an account there |
| 19:29.56 | karl_w_w | Cide: an hour and a half ago I had a similar conversation here :P |
| 19:31.18 | karl_w_w | offers Cairenn a glass of chilled lima bean juice |
| 19:31.31 | Cairenn | Ummmm |
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| 19:33.25 | Fisker | can't Fisker a kd3 |
| 19:36.25 | Lopeppeppy | Why are you tormenting Cairenn first thing in the morning, karl_w_w? Eew. |
| 19:36.46 | Cairenn | pouncehugs the Lopeppeppy |
| 19:37.08 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Cairenn lady. |
| 19:39.08 | Adys | hey Cairenn |
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| 19:54.52 | Maldivia | well... they might have an "accident".. |
| 19:54.55 | Lunessa | rtharper: Well, I was trying to be a bit softer than the reality, but… yeah. DIE. |
| 19:55.03 | rtharper | hehe |
| 19:55.24 | rtharper | Maldivia: Now that we just call "forced into retirement" or "early retirement" |
| 19:55.24 | Maldivia | rtharper: well, you could always try to combine the two? |
| 19:55.32 | rtharper | Maldivia: hehe maybe someday |
| 19:55.38 | Lunessa | Astonomy is a brilliant field. Sadly, it doesn't seem to have enough jobs to pay everyone that would like to contribute. |
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| 19:57.35 | Maldivia | but then again, I don't know if I would apprciate the night sky as much as I do now, if my daily job was in the field of astronomy |
| 19:57.58 | Maldivia | ... or perhaps just appreiciate other aspects of it |
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| 19:58.30 | Lunessa | Maybe. I'm no astronaut, but I'd love to go. I don't stare at the night sky evey night, but there isn't a single time I don't look at it and dream of traveling there. |
| 19:58.45 | Maldivia | ... and considering my skill, or rather lack thereof, in spelling appreciate, I think it's good English isn't my field :P |
| 19:59.16 | Lunessa | at least you used the proper version of "it's." |
| 20:00.03 | Maldivia | I don't have issue with that -- only when I'm on my phone, because finding the apostrophe is really annoying |
| 20:00.42 | Maldivia | I have plenty of other flaws though :P |
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| 20:20.50 | jnwhiteh | hrm, I should probably use java to brush up for interviews |
| 20:20.57 | jnwhiteh | bah |
| 20:21.08 | jnwhiteh | converting between go and java shouldn't be too bad though |
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| 20:39.59 | Maldivia | well, the syntax is a bit different, but, meh :P |
| 20:41.02 | TC-Work | Cide, Adys: it was actually rather easy |
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| 20:44.58 | Maldivia | ok... if anyone here is watching the US version of Shameless... last night's episode... wow... just wow... |
| 20:48.40 | cogwheel | *chuckle* |
| 20:48.43 | cogwheel | http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/3967587714?page=1#9 |
| 20:57.08 | bleeter | http://www.dhampir.no/stuff/bash/shellshock.bash |
| 21:01.02 | Fisker | cogwheel |
| 21:01.04 | Fisker | you cannot stop me |
| 21:03.30 | Fisker | guess what cogwheel |
| 21:03.34 | bleeter | stops Fisker |
| 21:03.42 | Fisker | nope.mp4 |
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| 21:09.43 | Adys | https://en.greatfire.org/websites-blocked-great-firewall-china |
| 21:09.45 | Adys | jesus |
| 21:12.41 | Cairenn | lordy |
| 21:12.49 | Fisker | seems fine to me |
| 21:13.06 | Fisker | oh |
| 21:13.19 | Fisker | they crossed the line when they blocked youporn |
| 21:13.23 | Fisker | jerks |
| 21:14.04 | Fisker | hah |
| 21:14.12 | Fisker | the site is blocked by china |
| 21:15.41 | Adys | http://attractivechaos.github.com/HN-prog-lang-poll.png |
| 21:15.42 | Adys | haha wow |
| 21:16.30 | Fisker | that doesn't make sense |
| 21:16.40 | Fisker | if red is dislike why is Visual Basic so blue? |
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| 21:16.58 | Adys | red if favourite, blue is dislike |
| 21:17.06 | Fisker | but then why is python so red? |
| 21:17.07 | Fisker | :3 |
| 21:17.14 | Adys | i no rite |
| 21:17.15 | Fisker | flawless victory |
| 21:17.24 | Maldivia | better question, why is Lisp so red! |
| 21:17.34 | Adys | Maldivia: clojure i guess |
| 21:17.49 | nilyaK | LISP isn't red :X whatcha mean |
| 21:17.57 | Adys | in # of votes |
| 21:18.20 | nilyaK | oh because lisp is the best |
| 21:18.23 | nevcairiel | is it just me, or is there no one language which just has more likes then dislikes |
| 21:18.48 | Adys | nevcairiel: uhm, all the ones on the left? |
| 21:18.53 | nilyaK | wooo scheme is there but |
| 21:18.57 | nilyaK | it should be racket |
| 21:19.00 | nevcairiel | the graph is stupid |
| 21:19.07 | Adys | yeah its a little confusing |
| 21:19.14 | Adys | but most languages have more likes than dislikes |
| 21:19.31 | nilyaK | javascript really? |
| 21:19.43 | Adys | nilyaK: all the node.js wackos |
| 21:19.55 | Adys | and im guessing jquery amounts for a fair bit of it |
| 21:19.58 | Adys | also DARTLOLOLOL |
| 21:20.18 | nevcairiel | i think its odd that so many people have a favorite language but didnt dislike many others |
| 21:20.27 | nevcairiel | seems like a odd group to ask =P |
| 21:20.39 | nilyaK | can I pile all my dislikes on javascript? |
| 21:20.40 | Adys | well theres one thing clear |
| 21:20.48 | Adys | PYTHON WILL CONQUER ALL OF YOU |
| 21:21.02 | nevcairiel | also, C is in the top 3 =p |
| 21:21.19 | Maldivia | it's a poll on hackernews... the result will be very scewed |
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| 21:21.47 | Maldivia | ... but I am quite surprised of the C# numbers |
| 21:21.56 | Adys | how so? |
| 21:22.26 | Maldivia | that the dislike count is so low |
| 21:22.48 | Adys | Im not surprised |
| 21:23.03 | Adys | i would never use C#, but as a language I wouldnt put a dislike on it |
| 21:23.06 | nilyaK | more like it's a poll |
| 21:23.13 | nilyaK | if it's on a website |
| 21:23.25 | nilyaK | it's probably using answers of people who visited the site and elected to answer |
| 21:23.33 | Adys | >> So I'm not the only one who hates Java? I must live in a weird bubble where everyone likes Java and thinks CVS is the best source control there is. |
| 21:23.33 | Adys | > You must live in 1999. In which case, I think I need to warn you about what happens to the WTC . . . |
| 21:23.55 | nilyaK | and isn't going to tell us anything about the population that isn't using the site and voting in their polls |
| 21:24.32 | Adys | nilyaK: tonight at eleven: "Polls not representative of non-voters". |
| 21:25.44 | Maldivia | Adys: C# have just had a very disjoint evolution, with a lot of different features added with every new version, clashing with previous version of the language |
| 21:25.53 | nilyaK | yup. |
| 21:26.00 | nilyaK | well, some aren't |
| 21:26.03 | Adys | Maldivia: but thats the sort of thing only a c# dev would know |
| 21:26.15 | Adys | and c# devs tend to like the language |
| 21:26.33 | Maldivia | and people dislike Java, because that's the cool thing to do |
| 21:26.37 | Adys | most of them are not into the language by choice, but more likely because of the lack of better alternatives |
| 21:26.52 | Adys | and people dislike java because java is no longer the cool thing to do. |
| 21:27.24 | Maldivia | yeah, I refering to, that "disliking java" was what was cool |
| 21:28.40 | Adys | C is less complex. Sure, there's lots of things that need a lot of manual effort that is quite bothersome. But it doesn't have all those complexities that C++ has. Every new feature that C++ has over C also comes with additional complexity. |
| 21:28.41 | Adys | god |
| 21:28.44 | Adys | a thousand times this =/ |
| 21:28.55 | Fisker | fight Maldivia |
| 21:29.18 | Maldivia | personally, I'm not a fan of C++, they overcomplicated everything :P |
| 21:29.45 | cbreak | C++ is an evolved language with a lot of history |
| 21:30.05 | Adys | c++ is the reason why I failed history in high school |
| 21:30.06 | cbreak | there are still lots of low level leftovers from C, and lots of high level constructs from the template meta programming side |
| 21:31.25 | Maldivia | hmm... I wonder how large a part of the Java dislikes, are due to the JVM |
| 21:32.22 | Maldivia | (which shouldn't factor in, considering the poll was about the language) |
| 21:32.54 | cbreak | java is quite tightly bound to the JVM |
| 21:33.08 | cbreak | it's the main way to execute java code |
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| 21:35.49 | Maldivia | still, the JVM isn't part of the language, it's just the most common mean to do something with it :P |
| 21:36.20 | Adys | ah yes |
| 21:36.41 | Adys | java defenders are worse theory-idealists than I am |
| 21:37.05 | Adys | "You don't hate Java. You hate the JVM. Technically, you like Java." |
| 21:37.47 | Adys | hey Kalroth |
| 21:37.55 | Adys | You don't hate France. You hate the French. |
| 21:38.05 | Adys | You like France. |
| 21:38.10 | Adys | You're in love with France. |
| 21:48.12 | Adys | http://highscalability.com/blog/2012/3/26/7-years-of-youtube-scalability-lessons-in-30-minutes.html |
| 21:48.19 | Adys | Stats: [...] 1 million lines of Python code |
| 21:48.35 | Adys | NB: ~800 thousand are DMCA-related. |
| 21:50.02 | Adys | YouTube is not asynchronous, everything is blocking. |
| 21:50.03 | Adys | aw man |
| 21:50.08 | Adys | i already expanded my DMCA pun. |
| 21:58.57 | Maldivia | heh |
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| 22:02.15 | Maldivia | but never the less, the general lessons listed applies to a lot of scenarios |
| 22:02.48 | Adys | aye |
| 22:02.58 | Adys | reality check is very effective |
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| 22:11.32 | Torhal|work | http://i.imgur.com/s50ln.jpg |
| 22:12.57 | BlackNet | sigh |
| 22:13.04 | BlackNet | im about ready to go postal on blizz |
| 22:13.17 | jnwhiteh | postal is an addon, and addons are disabled |
| 22:13.25 | kd3|netbook | eesh; 3100 word writeup for a starter zone... http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4254518443 |
| 22:13.34 | BlackNet | haha |
| 22:13.46 | BlackNet | postal as in psycho postal |
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| 22:14.11 | jnwhiteh | kd3|netbook: wow, well done :P |
| 22:14.14 | Torhal|work | kd3|netbook: (fexed 1) and (fetch 2)? |
| 22:14.44 | Torhal|work | Err...fedex |
| 22:14.46 | Adys | In the US, how old does a fetus have to be in order for an abortion to be called an abortion? |
| 22:15.02 | Adys | 1 week, 1 month, 6 months...? |
| 22:15.17 | kd3|netbook | torhal; I cover that in the 3rd paragraph |
| 22:15.22 | Lunessa | Adys: varies by state |
| 22:15.46 | Torhal|work | kd3|netbook: That's what I get for skimming. |
| 22:16.02 | Adys | Lunessa: any idea by how much? |
| 22:16.10 | BlackNet | fucker marked it as 'resolved' to |
| 22:16.21 | BlackNet | Thank you for reporting this issue to us. We are going to take the information you provided using it to validate/resolve any issues we discover within the world. We do appreciate the information, as all reports we receive are added to the information we already have and help us to better find a resolution. |
| 22:16.28 | BlackNet | what type of fucking answer is that? |
| 22:16.32 | Lunessa | No, not really. I'm only more or less familiar with Texas in this regard and only passingly |
| 22:16.34 | kd3|netbook | the standard copypasta |
| 22:17.00 | BlackNet | 300+ toons was gkicked, the next day they were re-invited back in. all guild rep was reset to 0 |
| 22:17.59 | BlackNet | was about 24 hours give or take a few |
| 22:22.38 | Synse | Account, Y U NO Beta yet? |
| 22:23.41 | nilyaK | you're not missing much so far I've spent forever downloading the damn client |
| 22:24.32 | Synse | Oh I downloaded the client last week, I'm just disappointed that all the f&f invites haven't gone out yet. Waves are stupid. |
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| 22:49.53 | Lunessa | Holy crap Windows Vista has the slowest file operations EVER. |
| 22:51.19 | kd3|netbook | you want to copy mp3s over the lan? see you next week |
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| 22:55.40 | Lunessa | Yeah. I'll be glad when I can nuke this VM from orbit. |
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| 23:40.54 | durcyn | you have an orbital launch vehicle and nuclear capabilities, and you're concerned with some piffling virtual machine? |
| 23:49.31 | Lunessa | durcyn: I don't want to be a god, just hack the system and use the "smite" button once in a while. |
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| 23:55.21 | sintAcks | wow... battletag numbers are only up to 1888 |
| 23:55.23 | BlackNet | what's a battletag number |
| 23:55.36 | Lunessa | I seriously doubt they are sequential. |
| 23:56.29 | Lunessa | And battle tags were first given out to D3 beta testers, so I wouldn't be shocked if the number of battle tags is fairly low compared to battle.net subscribers. |
| 23:57.27 | Shadowed | they aren't sequential |
| 23:57.35 | Shadowed | I got one as soon as they came out and had a 4 digit one |
| 23:57.53 | Shadowed | I don't think I actually know anyone who has a <4 one |
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| 23:58.18 | sintAcks | all 4 of the ones i've done have been in order |
| 23:58.29 | Lunessa | I got mine within 24-48 hours and it's a 4 digit number as well. |
| 23:58.31 | sintAcks | that's either some really weird luck with RNG, or sequential and very few people are doing them |
| 23:58.40 | sintAcks | same, Lunessa, but still not the point |
| 23:59.39 | sintAcks | just made two in a row; sequential |
| 23:59.54 | Lunessa | They're probably 4 digits of a database key field from some other feature. |
