| 00:02.16 | Jamash | karl_w_w: did you turn the filter off? :P |
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| 00:05.15 | MiRai | Is there a max font size in WoW? |
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| 00:08.31 | Maldivia | used to be, dont know if its still the case |
| 00:08.58 | MiRai | hmmm... alright |
| 00:09.13 | Maldivia | why? |
| 00:09.31 | MiRai | just editing an oUF layout and I can't seem to go over 36 |
| 00:10.04 | Shirik | I'm pretty sure I just found the best youtube comment ever |
| 00:10.19 | Maldivia | MiRai: hmm, well, the limit is higher than that |
| 00:10.26 | Shirik | http://pastebin.com/L5ZneP4R |
| 00:10.41 | MiRai | alright, thanks... I'll keep looking at it |
| 00:11.55 | Maldivia | blue hell... |
| 00:12.08 | TC-Work | anyone have a familiarity with the 'template-toolkit'? |
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| 00:23.55 | karl_w_w | Jamash: filter? |
| 00:24.13 | Jamash | there's an option in the, uh, options |
| 00:24.29 | karl_w_w | i dont know what options you're talking about :P |
| 00:24.34 | Jamash | learning aid spam filter |
| 00:24.38 | karl_w_w | oh |
| 00:24.43 | karl_w_w | no i didnt |
| 00:24.47 | karl_w_w | it only happened once |
| 00:24.54 | karl_w_w | havent seen it since |
| 00:30.23 | karl_w_w | april 1st: blizzard announces plans to sell the previous tier's gear set for $20 |
| 00:42.04 | foxlit | karl_w_w: USD to valor point exchange |
| 00:42.24 | karl_w_w | :P |
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| 00:48.42 | karl_w_w | biggest profit earner at cinemas: popcorn |
| 00:53.35 | karl_w_w | wait what, somebody punches bieber? |
| 00:53.42 | karl_w_w | oh it's fake :( |
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| 01:32.23 | durcyn | guess you'll just have to take pop stars out of your google alerts? |
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| 02:10.44 | karl_w_w | pop stars? |
| 02:10.49 | karl_w_w | google alerts? |
| 02:34.05 | Torhal | Mass hallucinations? |
| 02:37.59 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: got a networking question for you |
| 02:40.20 | Dagmar | Sure |
| 02:40.36 | Arrowmaster | just read http://www.standalone-sysadmin.com/blog/2012/03/remedial-networking-102-how-multicast-works/ |
| 02:41.25 | Arrowmaster | ill admit i didnt know a lot about multicast before since ive never used it but i had a basic understanding of it, just to confirm its always done locally right |
| 02:42.00 | Arrowmaster | as in core net routers dont support it |
| 02:42.02 | Shirik | uses multicast all over the place |
| 02:42.08 | Shirik | soooo useful for UAVs |
| 02:42.13 | ccox | ARGH, so much not quite right about that article |
| 02:42.58 | ccox | takes a deep breath and reminds himself that it's an article for people who don't know and don't want to know the details |
| 02:43.00 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Well, you can't really do it _remotely_ |
| 02:43.07 | Shirik | pets ccox |
| 02:43.09 | kd3 | multicast is generally on the lan side of a router. anything connected to the greater internet typically ignores the spec and drops the frames |
| 02:43.19 | Dagmar | Multicast traffic isn't generally sent anywhere it wasn't explicitly asked for |
| 02:43.24 | TC-Work | multicast, good for the micro, bad for the macro |
| 02:43.42 | Dagmar | Mainly, everyone has to be running the magic protocol that makes it happen. |
| 02:43.57 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats what i thought but that article didnt really make the distinction between local routers and upstream routers |
| 02:44.20 | Dagmar | Yeah that's because in practice most ISPs just ignore mutlicast traffic entirely |
| 02:44.31 | ccox | yep |
| 02:44.56 | ccox | most assume that multicast is just for bonjour/zeroconf and don't want "extra" traffic |
| 02:45.03 | Dagmar | ...so your broadcast domain, so to speak, barely extends beyond anywhere you didn't personally set up IGMP |
| 02:45.05 | Shirik | that would be a fun DoS tactic |
| 02:46.01 | ccox | Shirik: how so? swamping the upstream router with things it'll ignore is kinda old. |
| 02:46.12 | Shirik | no if it didn't ignore it |
| 02:46.43 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: so in situations where your own router is sending out BGP announcements and youre linked to major upstream providers, they are still configured to ignore it |
| 02:46.57 | Shirik | the objective would be to get a bunch of RST responses which would flood the target |
| 02:47.09 | Dagmar | If you're doing BGP, you can probably call your upstream on the phone and set up a meeting to discuss it. |
| 02:47.11 | ccox | Now, if I could get a router to subscribe to zeroconf/bonjour traffic and send it along :-) |
| 02:47.25 | Dagmar | To be doing BGP, you generally need an ASN. |
| 02:47.33 | Dagmar | ...otherwise doing BGP is kind of useless. |
| 02:48.17 | Dagmar | You can't go and get a vanity ASN for cheap, either. |
| 02:48.19 | ccox | "needing to use multicast all over the place with IPv6." Dude - first I need ISPs that really implement v6 instead of running a minimal tunnel. |
| 02:48.29 | Dagmar | People in that space don't mess around with bullshit gold rush issues. |
| 02:50.25 | Dagmar | As far as I know, Comcast's IPv6 doesn't do the necessary things across the border |
| 02:50.56 | Dagmar | ...when frankly, they should damn well get over their terror of the thing, and start distributing video over IPv6 multicast. |
| 02:51.35 | Arrowmaster | whats comcast giving customers for ipv6, each customer a /56 or /64 or is it even less |
| 02:51.57 | Dagmar | No idea yet. I have to buy a new cablemodem before I can even think about it. |
| 02:52.07 | Dagmar | ...and I don't want to think about calling them up if I have a problem. |
| 02:52.23 | Cairenn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8rzkCkFIus |
| 02:52.48 | Arrowmaster | did i tell you about my recent call to timewarner support? |
| 02:54.11 | alestane | I saw that before, Cairenn, it's pretty impressive. |
| 02:54.19 | Cairenn | lol |
| 02:54.27 | alestane | Although if it weren't the SW score, it would just be weird. |
| 02:54.41 | Cairenn | Impressive is not precisely the adjective I thought of upon viewing it |
| 02:57.53 | alestane | "To be fair, it was a porn convention. I wasn't expecting normal." |
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| 03:36.11 | kd3 | huh, neat. a supernova just spotted |
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| 03:37.52 | TC-Work | so i open up a script here at work and i see "if ($input_string == 'asm' || $input_string == 'alcohol/simpsons/mammal') {" i am amused |
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| 03:49.02 | Shirik | kd3: It's going to end the world |
| 03:49.18 | kd3 | I'm sure the 2012ers think that |
| 03:50.14 | BlackNet | is there any way to tell if your in an arch dig site? |
| 03:51.29 | kd3 | whether the dig was successful or not. the info's on the map but I'm not sure 1) the map's 100% accurate 2) we can even get at the overlay used to draw the site |
| 03:51.46 | kd3 | I'd assume there's a library that has coordinates of all the dig sites out somewhere |
| 03:52.11 | BlackNet | uhm dont care about sucessful was thinking i could check see if the toon is in a dig site and work from there |
| 03:52.27 | BlackNet | all the sites yea but one that is up for that toon in particular |
| 03:53.21 | kd3 | there's no IsPlayerAtActiveSite() call if that's what you're looking for |
| 03:53.30 | BlackNet | :( |
| 03:53.30 | kd3 | have you looked at what the archaeology addons are doing? |
| 03:53.44 | BlackNet | not realy but none of them does what im looking for |
| 03:53.52 | kd3 | which is...? |
| 03:54.18 | BlackNet | am working on a profession bar type setup. wanted to check see if was in an active digsite so i could throw up a button for survey |
| 03:54.38 | BlackNet | otherwise you dont wanna see the survey button at all |
| 03:54.45 | Torhal | BlackNet: ..... |
| 03:54.48 | Torhal | Archy? |
| 03:54.49 | Torhal | :P |
| 03:54.57 | Torhal | You can't Survey unless you're at a site. |
| 03:55.03 | BlackNet | duh |
| 03:55.11 | Torhal | I mean, with Archy's UI. |
| 03:55.37 | BlackNet | last i looked at archy it wasnt even close to what im trying to do |
| 03:55.43 | BlackNet | im not even sure it's possible |
| 03:56.05 | Torhal | You can't use Archy's survey button unless you're at a site, so yes - it does _exactly_ what you want. |
| 03:57.08 | BlackNet | will take another peek at it and see |
| 03:57.18 | Torhal | I'd be more helpful, but strong home-brewed beer is preventing the inclination from manifesting. |
| 03:57.30 | kd3 | mmm, homebrew |
| 03:57.57 | BlackNet | the other thing im wanting to do is check racial and show whatever racial spell the toon can use |
| 03:58.27 | Torhal | That seems a bit beyond the scope of a "profession bar", but whatever...:D |
| 03:58.54 | BlackNet | started off as a trinketbar but i wanna put bit more stuff in it. |
| 03:59.05 | BlackNet | say engineers have 2 tinkers and a chute |
| 04:15.18 | TC-Work | Torhal: are you a mean drunk? |
| 04:23.29 | BlackNet | er |
| 04:23.44 | BlackNet | archy's frame comes up when yoiu are in a zone that has potential digsites |
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| 04:24.23 | Torhal | TC-Work: No? |
| 04:24.38 | kd3 | eesh. $1.5B to cut latency by 60ms |
| 04:26.00 | TC-Work | kd3: up to |
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| 04:46.21 | kd3 | hahaha; http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/r62jp/iama_nasa_astronaut_that_recently_returned_to/c436z22 |
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| 04:53.35 | bluspacecow | ho boy |
| 04:53.41 | bluspacecow | it r raining hard here |
| 04:53.55 | bluspacecow | almost enough to take soap and shampoo and shower in |
| 04:58.55 | TC-Work | warm? |
| 05:01.02 | kd3 | wtfs at today's xkcd |
| 05:03.05 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/4639551 |
| 05:04.17 | Dagmar | I see he's met a synergistic media impression consultancy representative. |
| 05:04.26 | bluspacecow | also |
| 05:04.27 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/4240804215 |
| 05:04.38 | bluspacecow | y would u try to run D3 on a netbook ? |
| 05:06.44 | Dagmar | I think I read they do that on the fourth level of hell... make you play D3 co-op on netbooks. |
| 05:07.00 | bluspacecow | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.com |
| 05:09.12 | Shirik | I love how instantly when people think of the moon being gone, they resort to thinking about the tides |
| 05:09.18 | Shirik | that is not the problem |
| 05:10.07 | Shirik | the problem is the moon acts as a gyroscope keeping us stable |
| 05:10.30 | Dagmar | ORLY |
| 05:10.53 | Arrowmaster | http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m14chhUXgO1r7mymoo1_500.png |
| 05:11.03 | Dagmar | s/gyroscope/counterweight/ |
| 05:11.26 | mckenziemc | oh guess what guys |
| 05:11.29 | Dagmar | WHY would you link that |
| 05:12.00 | mckenziemc | i switched my default browser to chrome today :o |
| 05:12.43 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: because i already know the reaction it will cause |
| 05:13.01 | bluspacecow | i lolzed |
| 05:13.16 | Shirik | http://www.damninteresting.com/life-without-the-moon/ |
| 05:13.19 | Dagmar | You may not realize it now, but you just killed some people. |
| 05:13.21 | Dagmar | http://www.twilightconvention.com/cal/twilight_tn.htm |
| 05:13.28 | Shirik | "While Earth has had its share of ice-ages, the gravity of the moon has acted as a gyroscope, keeping the Earth’s axis steady at 23.5 degrees and sparing us the wild environmental changes Mars faced. This long-term stability has given life a chance to arise amidst a cycle of regular seasonal changes." |
| 05:13.57 | Dagmar | Except the geologic record seems to indicate that's not so |
| 05:14.20 | Shirik | ok then |
| 05:14.30 | Wobin | Dagmar: .. his official name is Booboo Stewart? |
| 05:14.31 | Shirik | {{fact}} |
| 05:15.00 | Dagmar | I'm going to have to make sure i'm well-armed that weekend. |
| 05:15.06 | Dagmar | The goth club will NOT be overrun. |
| 05:15.21 | kd3 | can we drop the moon on nashville to kill them all? |
| 05:15.52 | Dagmar | I'm thinking a big tub of arsenic outside with a sign saying "Free clown white" should do the trick |
| 05:16.09 | kd3 | lol |
| 05:16.24 | Dagmar | I'm trying not to think about the fact that they're sending out tickets in PDF format... with a three-day turnaround time. |
| 05:16.32 | Dagmar | How... How do you fuck that up? |
| 05:17.13 | kd3 | TIL we thought about nuking the moon back in the 50s... (via the reddit thread): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_A119 |
| 05:18.16 | bluspacecow | TIL? |
| 05:18.19 | bluspacecow | wot is TIL ? |
| 05:18.22 | kd3 | today I learned |
| 05:18.29 | mckenziemc | today bluspacecow learned what TIL means |
| 05:18.32 | bluspacecow | oh ty |
| 05:19.20 | Wobin | I wonder what the effects of low gravity would have on an explosion |
| 05:20.22 | Dagmar | Seriously, I am entirely unthrilled that there will be a bunch of "goth" *pussies* in town |
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| 05:58.11 | Cairenn | bluspacecow: lol |
| 05:58.48 | bluspacecow | opps wrong chan lol |
| 05:58.55 | Cairenn | no worries :) |
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| 06:17.08 | bluspacecow | http://www.quiterly.com/4507/i-never-miss-a-weather-forecast-unless-im-from-finland?ref=nf |
| 06:20.17 | karl_w_w | no more valor point gear in mists. you use valor points to upgrade gear. |
| 06:23.29 | Thunder_Child | so it seems that a full tank of gas is now $58. FML |
| 06:26.01 | Dagmar | It was almost four whole dollars for me yesterday. |
| 06:26.28 | Arrowmaster | your scooter has a full 1 gallon tank? |
| 06:26.43 | Dagmar | One point _three_ gallons, I think. |
| 06:27.04 | mckenziemc | cheap gas o.O |
| 06:27.26 | Dagmar | http://www.kymcousa.com/showroom/scooters/agility125/specifications.html |
| 06:27.54 | Dagmar | If you do not have to take the interstate, it's almost shocking how quickly gas savings pays for it all. |
| 06:28.05 | Corrodias | all the danger of a motorcycle with none of the speed |
| 06:28.06 | Dagmar | Just um, don't even ask your insurance company about comprehensive and anti-theft. |
| 06:28.13 | mckenziemc | hehe |
| 06:28.31 | Arrowmaster | id still rather have an 848 |
| 06:28.34 | Dagmar | If I want to go inadvisably fast, I have a car. |
| 06:28.49 | Corrodias | there was a very brief period between the time i A) could get one of those, and B) no longer wanted to ride on a 2-wheel death machine |
| 06:28.55 | Corrodias | between the times |
| 06:29.17 | Corrodias | and in my hands, a moped or motorcycle can only be that. :( |
| 06:29.22 | Corrodias | or... between my legs |
| 06:29.33 | mckenziemc | kinky |
| 06:29.45 | Dagmar | If I want to annoy people talking on their cell phones with weird techno and park basically anywhere I damn well feel like it, I have the bike. |
| 06:30.26 | Corrodias | that's basically my only problem with them. if it weren't so damn unsafe (for me), i'd put up with the lack of climate control and drive one. |
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| 06:30.51 | Dagmar | My car's AC is pretty weak, and my commute is 11.2 miles. |
| 06:31.19 | Dagmar | The thing wouldn't even have really gotten it's compressor up in that amount of time. |
| 06:31.22 | Corrodias | that's even significantly farther than mine |
| 06:31.33 | Dagmar | However, even at 95F, the bike is comfy |
| 06:31.53 | Corrodias | it's a little more of a problem in winter, or in rain |
| 06:32.04 | Dagmar | Yeah I have the car for winter |
| 06:32.33 | Corrodias | there's a very specific type of weather those things can be driven in. i'm not trying to rag on them unfairly, but i really would like a smaller vehicle without the drawbacks. |
| 06:33.36 | mckenziemc | super simian sphere |
| 06:34.10 | Fisker | hey Dagmar |
| 06:34.14 | Fisker | however not hey at all mckenziemc |
| 06:34.21 | mckenziemc | hey Fisker |
| 06:34.23 | Fisker | nope |
| 06:34.31 | mckenziemc | i just did |
| 06:39.05 | mckenziemc | anyway Fisker |
| 06:39.13 | Fisker | nope.mp4 |
| 06:39.16 | mckenziemc | my friend was helping some guy load stuff into his truck |
| 06:39.22 | mckenziemc | then he took a tv to the toe :( |
| 06:40.03 | Fisker | :) |
| 06:41.53 | Corrodias | looks at that twilight convention page |
| 06:41.58 | Corrodias | oh dear, that poor man's name is "Booboo" |
| 06:42.11 | Corrodias | like, for real D: |
| 06:43.37 | Fisker | http://hahgay.com/ |
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| 06:52.09 | Arrowmaster | im just going to leave this here http://kotaku.com/5895098/the-battlestar-galactica-prequel-looks-surprisingly-great |
| 06:52.51 | Corrodias | so how do i play ios or android games in windows? |
| 06:52.59 | Arrowmaster | you dont |
| 06:53.14 | Corrodias | fuck, what wonderful, modern technology we have. |
| 06:53.39 | Corrodias | guess i'll just go beat some rocks against my frozen taquitos until they become edible |
| 06:53.41 | Arrowmaster | theres emulators but i dont know how well they would run games |
| 06:55.35 | Corrodias | i've seen a little of that for development. it would not be very well. |
| 06:56.47 | bluspacecow | i've seen a fairly good virtualization app for that |
| 06:57.03 | Arrowmaster | theres android-x86 you can run in virtualbox |
| 06:57.15 | Arrowmaster | again dont know about game preformance |
| 06:57.26 | Corrodias | hmm, yeah, that'd merely be terrible |
| 06:57.35 | Corrodias | not quite horrible like running the Eclipse plugin |
| 06:58.12 | Arrowmaster | well you could burn it to a disc and boot it |
| 06:58.58 | Corrodias | well, shit, that just might work |
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| 07:56.54 | karl_w_w | Corrodias: the question is, why would you want to? |
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| 07:57.55 | Corrodias | there are a couple of games i hear about that i'd like to try out. like... there may have been 3. |
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| 08:14.01 | Arrowmaster | this season of top gear US has been so stupid its absolutely fucking hilarious |
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| 08:24.20 | karl_w_w | here's something I wonder about, how does delivering something slowly make the delivery cost less? |
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| 08:32.54 | Arrowmaster | karl_w_w: it doesnt, delivering it faster makes it cost more |
| 08:33.09 | Aurorus_ | I think it's because they use slower hamsters that eat less food and hence are cheaper :D |
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| 08:42.41 | karl_w_w | Arrowmaster: up to a point yes |
| 08:44.07 | karl_w_w | like i can see why delivering it in 2 days would cost more than 5 days |
| 08:44.22 | karl_w_w | but how can 10 days be cheaper than 5 |
| 08:45.34 | Arrowmaster | for 10 days you can let it sit somewhere waiting for some extra room on a truck to put it without worrying about finding room for it for a few days |
| 08:50.47 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4240804166 |
| 08:50.59 | bluspacecow | this is a big reason why i stopped answering posts on that forum |
| 08:51.28 | bluspacecow | wait no NVM |
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| 08:59.07 | Arrowmaster | http://i.imgur.com/P72eb.jpg |
| 08:59.26 | Maldivia | lol |
| 09:00.35 | Arrowmaster | rofl theres a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBTV9l64EGA |
| 09:03.10 | Ackis | I just got the fox kit! :D |
| 09:08.41 | Fisker | why Ackis ? |
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| 09:59.39 | bluspacecow | (!) |
| 09:59.40 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4217174396?page=2#24 |
| 09:59.50 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4217174396?page=2#25 |
| 09:59.57 | bluspacecow | IMMA SHILL FISKER |
| 09:59.59 | bluspacecow | u yelly ? |
| 10:00.05 | bluspacecow | *jelly |
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| 10:00.18 | Fisker | ok bluspacecow |
| 10:00.26 | Fisker | is it about the annual pass beta announcement? |
| 10:00.31 | bluspacecow | nah |
| 10:00.33 | bluspacecow | wow matrix |
| 10:00.44 | Fisker | damn |
| 10:01.41 | bluspacecow | is there any truth to #1 ? |
| 10:09.06 | Arrowmaster | bluspacecow: yes |
| 10:12.29 | Fisker | when it became too popular i.e hosting was unsustainable they went away from it |
| 10:12.34 | bluspacecow | was it links to the addon files or just to the project pages ? |
| 10:12.40 | Fisker | that was back when it was wowaceupdater i believe |
| 10:12.54 | Fisker | it was a full featured update manager like curse client |
| 10:13.02 | bluspacecow | what about # 3 then ? |
| 10:13.34 | Fisker | speculation |
| 10:13.53 | bluspacecow | wow matrix is coded in hypertalk isn't it ? |
| 10:13.56 | Fisker | idk |
| 10:14.20 | Arrowmaster | a language based on it |
| 10:14.28 | Fisker | I don't know if it downloaded all the elements from the page |
| 10:14.47 | Arrowmaster | i dont think it did |
| 10:14.53 | Arrowmaster | i remember it used libcurl |
| 10:16.37 | Arrowmaster | going to bed now |
| 10:19.10 | Fisker | Anyway it's pretty clear, WAU atleast contributed to the hosting and took notes from the WoWAce guys, while WoWMatrix happily ignored it and made money on it even |
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| 10:29.59 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 10:30.00 | bluspacecow | back |
| 10:30.05 | bluspacecow | was putting the trash out |
| 10:30.30 | bluspacecow | now that i think of it i think it was dolby who said it … from observing the traffic made by someone running the wow matrix client |
| 10:33.51 | AcidWeb | Damn. When i read post by that Buhbs i regret that stupidity is not a crime ;p |
| 10:34.16 | bluspacecow | luckly i kept every URL about that whole drama in a google docs document |
| 10:36.17 | bluspacecow | anyone have a forum archiver on hand ? |
| 10:37.58 | AcidWeb | http://wowarchive.yg.com/ http://woweuarchive.yg.com/ ? |
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| 10:40.12 | bluspacecow | thank you but i believe someone linked a better one in the last few days |
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| 10:52.42 | karl_w_w | aoe looting is going to screw up wowhead client |
| 10:56.26 | foxlit | someone still uses it? :) |
| 10:57.06 | karl_w_w | i assume so, wowhead gets its droprates somewhere |
| 11:09.53 | Fisker | just use armory ones |
| 11:10.24 | karl_w_w | ew. |
| 11:10.57 | p3lim^ | I know you can extract the art files in \Interface, but how do you extract the ones in \Textures? |
| 11:15.31 | Fisker | eww yourself karl_w_w |
| 11:15.32 | Fisker | umad? |
| 11:19.34 | bluspacecow | what happens in texas stays in texas |
| 11:19.43 | Fisker | i once texas'd in texas |
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| 11:30.02 | airtonix | mad? |
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| 11:36.16 | airtonix | hey blu |
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| 11:53.52 | Maldivia | Adys: http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2012/doctor-who-companion.html |
| 12:00.55 | Fisker | old and nothankyou.jpg |
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| 12:08.40 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:08.52 | bluspacecow | buhbs just won't shut up about this wow matrix thing will he ? |
| 12:09.03 | zenzio | boobs? |
| 12:09.14 | foxlit | bluspacecow: your own damn fault. |
| 12:10.18 | Fisker | maintenance here |
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| 12:14.57 | airtonix | on your face Fisker? |
| 12:15.26 | Fisker | i fucked your face airtonix |
| 12:15.41 | airtonix | i don't remember that |
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| 12:30.55 | bluspacecow | oh hai2u Peppy |
| 12:31.43 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, bluspacecow |
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| 12:40.46 | AcidWeb | bluspacecow: That Buhbs guy is real Open Source Zealot. Dont waste time to convince him ;p |
| 12:42.22 | p3lim | How can I flip a texture 90 degrees using SetTexCoord? |
| 12:43.07 | foxlit | with magic! |
| 12:43.48 | AcidWeb | p3lim: I dont know if that is even possible |
| 12:44.11 | p3lim | I'm quite sure it is |
| 12:44.23 | airtonix | AcidWeb: umad? |
| 12:44.53 | airtonix | bluspacecow: enough talk about languages that suck... |
| 12:45.10 | airtonix | bluspacecow: lets talk about ruby. |
| 12:45.23 | bluspacecow | you want to suck ruby ? |
| 12:47.20 | Lopeppeppy | Is Buhbs still at it? Necrothreadjacking is supposed to be a Tuesday-only sport. |
| 12:47.41 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4217174396?page=2#33 |
| 12:47.46 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:49.15 | AcidWeb | I think that he really belive in that. |
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| 12:50.20 | AcidWeb | But calling Curse and WoWI a "racecar-bannered web pages" is quite overkill ;p |
| 12:51.18 | airtonix | it is? |
| 12:51.32 | Lopeppeppy | If you don't like ads, don't look at them. *shrug* |
| 12:51.44 | airtonix | maybe your moral barometer is made in china |
| 12:51.46 | Lopeppeppy | But I really do think he passionately believes that everything should be open source and shared. |
| 12:52.01 | bluspacecow | i don't think that word means what he thinks it means |
| 12:52.27 | Lopeppeppy | There is also that, bluspacecow. |
| 12:52.40 | airtonix | also what |
| 12:53.26 | p3lim | Oh that is a nice function |
| 12:53.32 | p3lim | :SetRotation(radians) |
| 12:53.47 | foxlit | p3lim: weak and amateaur. |
| 12:54.03 | foxlit | Spend the minute it'd take you to figure out proper corner coordinates for settexcoord. |
| 12:54.58 | foxlit | [then use SetRotation, obviously] |
| 12:55.23 | p3lim | foxlit: I've spent the last 10 minutes figuring out why the code I had used to rotate a texture just this way, didnt work on the texture I am working with now |
| 12:55.39 | p3lim | And I figured out that it was the AnimGroup thing that messed it up |
| 12:56.40 | foxlit | sounds unconvincing. |
| 13:01.07 | bluspacecow | *sigh* |
| 13:01.15 | bluspacecow | does wowinterface have a premium sub ? |
| 13:01.23 | foxlit | yes. |
| 13:01.37 | bluspacecow | is it that donator account thing I'm on ? |
| 13:01.52 | bluspacecow | "Wow interface AFAIK does not. They have a donator account that grants you access to the entire Zam network. WI's version isn't the same as Curses version , it's more of a yearly donation." |
| 13:01.54 | foxlit | no idea |
| 13:02.02 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/premium.php |
| 13:02.23 | bluspacecow | that's the one I'm on |
| 13:02.41 | Fisker | don't troll bluspacecow |
| 13:02.45 | bluspacecow | i doesn't really offer you extra services. just cosmetic stuff |
| 13:02.58 | airtonix | bluspacecow: you made Fiskercry |
| 13:03.04 | Lopeppeppy | The premium membership is cosmetic, exactly. It doesn't effect access to addons at all. |
| 13:03.26 | Lopeppeppy | It's supportive rather than access. |
| 13:03.43 | p3lim | foxlit: atleast I made it interesting: :SetRotation(- (math.pi / 2)) |
| 13:04.30 | foxlit | on the upside, I've made one BAZILLION DOLLARS through curse. |
| 13:04.53 | foxlit | or pounds, as it may be. |
| 13:05.04 | Lopeppeppy | Groovy, foxlit. |
| 13:05.39 | bluspacecow | "WI and Curse(Forge) are shoddy replacements for real development collaboration sites" |
| 13:05.47 | bluspacecow | who wants to rip this person a new one ? |
| 13:06.28 | foxlit | Lopeppeppy: :) |
| 13:06.35 | Lopeppeppy | The question is, who decides what is "real"? They may not meet HIS criteria, but they meet the needs of a lot of community addon authors. So they may be "unreal", but they're quite successful. |
| 13:07.16 | Lopeppeppy | I'll take a successful Mad Hatter over an empty reality TV show any day. |
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| 13:12.21 | bluspacecow | "boon to authors" |
| 13:12.25 | bluspacecow | *giggle snort* |
| 13:13.04 | bluspacecow | "The thing addon authors say they want is recognition" who here wants recognition for their addons ? |
| 13:14.08 | AcidWeb | Duh recognition is nice but for sure that was not a reason why i started making addons. |
| 13:15.53 | bluspacecow | some addon authors dont give a rats ass about recognition |
| 13:15.58 | foxlit | bluspacecow: I think you're digging yourself a bigger hole with each post. |
| 13:16.00 | bluspacecow | or how many users you can get |
| 13:16.09 | bluspacecow | how so foxlit ? |
| 13:16.30 | foxlit | now you'll have to argue about the difference between a "donator account" and a "premium subscription" |
| 13:16.44 | bluspacecow | thought i did already |
| 13:16.44 | foxlit | explain why PMing arbitrary admins will let you violate an addon's license. |
| 13:16.55 | bluspacecow | :| |
| 13:17.30 | bluspacecow | would anyone here correct me on that ? i've seen it happen with Archy for example |
| 13:17.48 | AcidWeb | And no matter what you say - he will be not convinced. |
| 13:18.02 | foxlit | then there's the "very good specialized tools" |
| 13:18.17 | bluspacecow | i meant better then sourceforge.net |
| 13:19.21 | foxlit | It's inherently subjective. That phrase sounds nice, but is open to interpretation. Had you said "tools better than sourceforge.net", the objection would've been "what does sourceforge.net have to do with the price of butter?" |
| 13:19.25 | Lopeppeppy | I think only admins can speak to how they research and determine that it would be okay to turn over an addon. |
| 13:19.53 | bluspacecow | well what do you suggest i say there ? take something out ? |
| 13:21.02 | foxlit | Nah, my suggestion would've been to let it fade into obscurity 18 hours ago. |
| 13:21.43 | foxlit | Personally, I don't think the "things could be better than they are!" argument is beatable. |
| 13:23.38 | Lopeppeppy | Because of course it could be better, if you put superglue on it and rolled it in glitter. |
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| 13:26.10 | bluspacecow | *looks at 16 page QQ thread on general , 13 pages of comments on the FAQ and 17 on the MMC thread* |
| 13:26.29 | bluspacecow | *ah forget about it smile.jpg* |
| 13:26.35 | bluspacecow | *closes window* |
| 13:26.38 | bluspacecow | hai2u Jamash |
| 13:26.44 | Jamash | wots mmc |
| 13:26.48 | Jamash | sup brah |
| 13:27.17 | bluspacecow | mmo champs brah |
| 13:27.58 | Jamash | oh |
| 13:29.41 | Jamash | so angry that they're not giving out beta access so quickly that the test server buckles under the load and nobody can get in? |
| 13:30.14 | bluspacecow | exactly |
| 13:30.16 | Jamash | firstworld(ofwarcraft)problems |
| 13:30.18 | bluspacecow | https://twitter.com/#!/autocorrects/status/182413889781239808 |
| 13:30.54 | Jamash | ha |
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| 13:52.58 | Lopeppeppy | Alestane, save me from the nest of numbers! I dreamed that binary and hex mated to form a new counting language. *cries* |
| 13:53.38 | alestane | I spent yesterday mronign dreaming that I was catching squirrels and mice and chipmunks in my bedroom one at a time and carrying them outside. |
| 13:53.45 | alestane | yesterday morning* |
| 13:54.53 | alestane | sits Peppy in his lap and counts the evil hexes for her. |
| 13:55.28 | alestane | Playing a hexenmeister has to be good for something. |
| 13:55.55 | Lopeppeppy | Happy Equinox. |
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| 13:56.46 | alestane | With fallen fetters, in red-robed splendor, stream forth, Dawn Maiden, return the herds! |
| 13:57.46 | Lopeppeppy | How about red-haired splendour? |
| 13:59.14 | alestane | That works too. |
| 14:00.08 | alestane | I don't think Xausós is depicted with red hair, but that's always good for Brighid's Day. |
| 14:01.51 | bluspacecow | wasn't there a early fps called Hexen |
| 14:02.23 | alestane | An early game of some kind. |
| 14:09.12 | Jamash | it was a fantasy fps |
| 14:09.18 | Jamash | an underutilized genre imo |
| 14:15.23 | Fisker | Jamash |
| 14:15.37 | mckenziemc | |
| 14:15.46 | Fisker | no |
| 14:15.48 | karl_w_w | Jamashes Fisker |
| 14:16.01 | Jamash | ... |
| 14:16.08 | Jamash | PROCEED |
| 14:16.13 | Lopeppeppy | I didn't know that was a verb. |
| 14:16.22 | Jamash | neither did I! |
| 14:16.32 | karl_w_w | noobs. |
| 14:16.38 | mckenziemc | boobs |
| 14:16.47 | Jamash | is that the tornado siren |
| 14:17.00 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 14:18.09 | Jamash | mmk it's an alert system test |
| 14:18.50 | Jamash | if this were an actual warning, you would be on your way to the land of oz by now |
| 14:20.16 | Jamash | I miss california, earthquakes > tornadoes |
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| 14:45.22 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4217174396?page=2#39 |
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| 14:51.01 | alestane | Do we really need to know anything about that thread, other than the fact that this guy thinks a centralized download vector is a critical tool for the add-on community that no-one else has provided? |
| 14:51.34 | bluspacecow | you got it in one |
| 14:51.35 | bluspacecow | heh |
| 14:51.40 | bluspacecow | its too late to answer now |
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| 14:52.03 | alestane | Did WoWI withdraw Minion or something? He keeps saying that WoWI doesn't offer a download option for Mac, but I had Minion software on my computer at one point. |
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| 14:54.17 | Fisker | ii think he means that no curse integration was ever made for it |
| 14:54.21 | Fisker | so it's useless |
| 14:55.45 | bluspacecow | i have the perfect option |
| 14:55.55 | bluspacecow | get your UI to a stable state then never update it again |
| 14:56.13 | bluspacecow | i haven't updated mine in 4 months as im lazy |
| 14:56.20 | mckenziemc | good luck with that |
| 14:56.44 | bluspacecow | im waiting for it to explode |
| 14:57.14 | Fisker | mad bluspacecow ? |
| 14:58.09 | bluspacecow | naw |
| 14:58.12 | Fisker | yes |
| 14:58.13 | Fisker | umad |
| 14:58.17 | Fisker | i want geforece gtx 680 |
| 14:58.18 | mckenziemc | mad cow Fisker? |
| 14:58.21 | Fisker | or just geforce |
| 14:58.23 | bluspacecow | haven't used an addon client in years |
| 14:58.45 | Stanzilla | you should |
| 14:58.52 | alestane | I did one thing to make add-on maintenance easier on myself. |
| 14:58.54 | bluspacecow | in fact haven't since the UAE died … tried once since then and it screwed things up |
| 14:59.19 | bluspacecow | whats that alestane |
| 14:59.29 | AcidWeb | bluspacecow: His last post shoild be proof enough that your arguments do not interest him at all. |
| 14:59.50 | alestane | I made an AppleScript droplet that you drop add-on folders or ZIPs on, and it backs up your add-on installation and installs the items you dropped on it correctly in the WoW folder. |
| 15:00.24 | bluspacecow | i have something similar |
| 15:00.29 | alestane | I also tossed it on WoWI for others, but mostly it's just there so I have convenient access to the right directories. |
| 15:01.39 | bluspacecow | i think this hole is deep enough *tosses spade away* |
| 15:01.47 | bluspacecow | *lays poor dead horse down in it* |
| 15:05.47 | Shirik | why the hell |
| 15:05.51 | Shirik | is it so hard for people to write unit tests? |
| 15:06.05 | Fisker | i need to poop Shirik |
| 15:06.06 | Maldivia | unit what? |
| 15:06.26 | Shirik | Seen in a recent changelist: Removed: m_box_col = (bytes[idx_mn] << 4) | ((bytes[idx_op] & 0xf0) > 4); Added: m_box_col = (bytes[idx_mn] << 4) | ((bytes[idx_op] & 0xf0) >> 4); |
| 15:06.34 | Shirik | A very simple unit test would have caught that |
| 15:06.46 | Fisker | mad? |
| 15:08.58 | karl_w_w | wouldnt an application automatically editing the config.wtf be against ToU? |
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| 15:11.30 | bluspacecow | how so ? |
| 15:16.08 | karl_w_w | You agree that you will not, under any circumstances: D. modify or cause to be modified any files that are a part of the Game Client or the Service in any way not expressly authorized by Blizzard; |
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| 15:17.36 | Fisker | don't be absurd karl_w_w |
| 15:18.39 | Shirik | HP to combine PC, printer businesses |
| 15:18.57 | Shirik | I fail to see how these are related |
| 15:19.17 | Fisker | who wouldn't want a computer that prints? |
| 15:19.18 | nevcairiel | thats why you dont work as an exec |
| 15:21.19 | Shirik | ha "Having owned both HP printers and PC's. This makes sense because they both suck. " |
| 15:22.12 | Dagmar | All they need is to draw up an exclusive contract with Seagate to have their Maxtor line be the sole provider of hard disks to really make it a golden deal. |
| 15:28.11 | Fisker | why not nevcairiel ? |
| 15:28.24 | karl_w_w | absurd Fisker? |
| 15:29.03 | Fisker | absurd karl_w_w |
| 15:29.53 | karl_w_w | i dont see anything absurd Fisker |
| 15:30.37 | Fisker | rise and shine karl_w_w |
| 15:31.11 | Kraps_w | "Fisker" is Quarian for absurd |
| 15:31.51 | Shirik | so my mom's a securities regulator; she went to this anti-money laundering conference and they gave her a bar of soap with a dollar bill inside |
| 15:33.02 | karl_w_w | who uses a bar of soap to do laundery? |
| 15:33.13 | nevcairiel | old school |
| 15:33.44 | karl_w_w | so my bank statement just says all zeroes in the balance columb |
| 15:33.46 | karl_w_w | column |
| 15:34.13 | Shirik | is that a good thing or a bad thing? |
| 15:34.37 | karl_w_w | the credits and debits are all listed nicely in order, and they're either having no effect on my actual balance or somebody somewhere broke a cumulative total script |
| 15:34.51 | karl_w_w | bad thing right now :P |
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| 15:58.11 | foxlit | Hm, lockboxes. |
| 15:59.10 | foxlit | is there an addon that lets you simply right-click on them to unlock them? |
| 15:59.58 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 16:00.39 | bluspacecow | how do you unlock them ? do you use something in your spell book the click at them ? |
| 16:00.57 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:00.58 | bluspacecow | at a guess |
| 16:01.31 | foxlit | That would work if I wanted to mess with macros. I do not. |
| 16:01.40 | bluspacecow | its possible |
| 16:01.51 | foxlit | It should be; the question is whether it's been done. :) |
| 16:01.54 | alestane | You probably *could* modify container item buttons to cast Pick Lock on the item in question. SABT supports targeting a bag slot. |
| 16:02.00 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.09 | alestane | Although, I don't think the ContainerItiemButton inherits from SABT |
| 16:03.37 | foxlit | alestane: those are also my thoughts. However, I merely wanted to know whether such a thing was already made before I started hacking at it :) |
| 16:06.09 | foxlit | [I know that there was something to mill items by clicking on them, for instance] |
| 16:06.22 | bluspacecow | you want to save yourself some effort rather then having to roll your own correct ? |
| 16:07.16 | foxlit | With some subtlety as to what is considered acceptable, yes. |
| 16:07.33 | foxlit | creating a separate button that, when clicked, would unlock some lockbox seems like cheating |
| 16:08.00 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=239965#post239965 |
| 16:08.18 | bluspacecow | i used that to level enchanting without having to reclick on some item all the time |
| 16:08.33 | foxlit | That is a slightly different cup of tea. |
| 16:08.49 | Stanzilla | foxlit: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info16109-Criminal.html |
| 16:08.50 | bluspacecow | well how does lock picking work ? |
| 16:09.07 | bluspacecow | that might work :) |
| 16:09.53 | foxlit | now I wonder why he wants alt-clicks. |
| 16:12.17 | foxlit | heh, so reposition a SABT above a bag slot and show/hide it on modifier change. |
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| 16:15.19 | foxlit | Stanzilla: thanks, that would work in principle. Now I'm merely curious whether it can be done with right clicks and/or in combat. |
| 16:16.07 | Stanzilla | :) |
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| 16:16.53 | bluspacecow | oh noes we've started it |
| 16:17.04 | bluspacecow | now foxlit wants to tinker with the solution :P |
| 16:17.15 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 16:17.53 | bluspacecow | http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/icwhutudidtherep1.gif |
| 16:17.58 | bluspacecow | *munches* |
| 16:18.01 | bluspacecow | hay |
| 16:18.57 | Lopeppeppy | Is not a goat!! :P |
| 16:19.11 | bluspacecow | hey now |
| 16:19.14 | bluspacecow | its my uncle lenny |
| 16:19.22 | bluspacecow | hes adopted … but really sensitive about it |
| 16:22.25 | foxlit | alestane: apparently, bag buttons aren't even explicitly protected, which makes things hard |
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| 16:27.09 | alestane | No, they rely on secure code to operate. |
| 16:31.03 | foxlit | ^ "don't" somewhere in there? |
| 16:31.25 | foxlit | or perhaps in part :( |
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| 16:47.11 | alestane | They rely on the fact that Blizzard code is secure in order to operate. |
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| 16:49.59 | Fisker | hey there alestane |
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| 17:17.09 | Ackis | if something is public domain, can you fork it and take it out of public domain? |
| 17:17.51 | MentalPower | technically, your additions you can do whatever you want with, the original publci domain parts stay PD |
| 17:18.01 | kd3 | sure. you can't lay claim to the original work, as it's still public domain, but if you modify it you can claim your changes |
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| 17:22.59 | Lopeppeppy | I'd argue that you should technically say "based on a public domain work, all changes belong to Ackis the Godlike" |
| 17:23.16 | TC-Away | i |
| 17:23.28 | TC-Away | i'd argue that as well, Ackis is not godlike |
| 17:24.05 | Ackis | I took over a PD addon and kept my changes PD, someone forked it and removed it from PD, they didn't give it a license that I can see |
| 17:24.21 | mckenziemc | thus nobody owns the changes, thus the changes are public domain too |
| 17:24.28 | mckenziemc | @TC-Away |
| 17:24.39 | kd3 | your addon's PD. any changes they make are theirs to license however they choose |
| 17:26.47 | MentalPower | they are not breaking any rules, as there are none to break |
| 17:29.05 | Ackis | the only thing broken is my heart then |
| 17:29.16 | Ackis | MentalPower: http://www.drinksmixer.com/drink735.html does that bring back any memories? |
| 17:29.51 | MentalPower | Yup! Those are yummy |
| 17:30.55 | Lopeppeppy | That's like Long Island Ice Tea, just pour in whatever you have handy and stir it around a bit with a straw. :) |
| 17:31.05 | kd3 | yum |
| 17:31.23 | Lopeppeppy | Yummy, and dangerous. |
| 17:31.39 | MentalPower | Lopeppeppy: indeed |
| 17:31.40 | Dagmar | Umm... that's generally called "Barmat" |
| 17:31.58 | Dagmar | Long Island Tea actually tastes like tea, which is _really weird_ |
| 17:32.03 | MentalPower | you should ask Kaelten or Cairenn|afk about them |
| 17:32.21 | Dagmar | If you just mix up "whatever" it generally tastes like crap. |
| 17:32.28 | Lopeppeppy | We call that stuff "garbage pail punch" around here, because it's commonly made in a garbage pail that someone bought just for that purpose... |
| 17:33.13 | Dagmar | Yeah we call it "Barmat" around here because there was a punk dude who would drain the bar mat into a glass and drink it |
| 17:33.24 | Dagmar | Yes, that's disgusting |
| 17:34.19 | alestane | I remember at my first BlizzCon where someone at the Cheesecake Factory brought Cairenn|afk an AMF made without any soda. |
| 17:34.35 | alestane | We think someone at the bar genuinely oopsed the recipe. |
| 17:34.54 | kd3 | an AMF without soda? |
| 17:34.55 | kd3 | winces |
| 17:35.03 | alestane | No mixer, just liquor. |
| 17:35.10 | Dagmar | blarg |
| 17:35.27 | alestane | She sipped at it for a minute or two, then had them send it back because it wasn't actually drinkable. |
| 17:37.25 | bluspacecow | AMF ? |
| 17:37.49 | bluspacecow | bear in mind im not an alchohol drinker |
| 17:37.59 | kd3 | adios motherfucker. it's blue. |
| 17:38.18 | bluspacecow | oh |
| 17:38.35 | bluspacecow | how does one make it ? one of my sisters boyfriend used to be a bar tender |
| 17:38.47 | kd3 | http://www.drinksmixer.com/drink735.html |
| 17:39.52 | bluspacecow | intresting |
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| 17:42.22 | Lopeppeppy | Silly Peppy, I'd just drink it faster to get it over with, not send it back. |
| 17:45.27 | Jamash | walks the dinosaur. |
| 17:45.44 | MentalPower | Kaelten makes one without soda, its quite drinkable |
| 17:46.16 | Jamash | all my antidepressants say "don't drink alcohol srsly" on 'em |
| 17:47.17 | MentalPower | Jamash: depends on the medication, it can range from harmless to trippy to OMG |
| 17:48.12 | MentalPower | (personal experience) |
| 17:48.22 | pompy | http://gamerant.com/mass-effect-3-ending-ken-levine-paul-barnett-benk-139267/ |
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| 17:54.24 | Jamash | I think that putting the Mass Effect 3 ending controversy in the context of rights is stupid |
| 17:54.46 | Jamash | of course Bioware has the right to make a bad ending to their games |
| 17:54.58 | Jamash | doesn't mean that they *should* |
| 17:55.12 | foxlit | question, did those guys play the game? |
| 17:55.48 | foxlit | i.e. do they actually know what ending they're defending, or is this simply "they should be free to do whatever, man!" |
| 17:56.40 | Corrodias | bad stuff is bad |
| 17:56.50 | Jamash | good question foxlit |
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| 18:45.05 | Jamash | why is the bombcast starting with the The Price Is Right theme song |
| 18:45.22 | bluspacecow | wot is bombcast ? |
| 18:45.35 | Jamash | giantbomb.com podcast |
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| 18:51.35 | TC-Work | is there quicktime of some sort for linux? |
| 18:52.10 | kd3 | mplayer/vlc should handle qt files |
| 18:52.45 | TC-Work | in a broweser? |
| 18:52.50 | TC-Work | browser* |
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| 18:54.17 | TC-Work | a quit message that pulls the motd? interesting |
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| 18:54.34 | TC-Work | s/motd/topic/ |
| 18:55.20 | kd3 | got an example of a qt file embedded in a page somewhere? been a while since I've messed with those |
| 18:55.38 | TC-Work | kd3: http://ronbushawstudios.com/ronbushawstudios/rbs_film_main.html |
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| 18:57.49 | kd3 | looks like it's working. I'm using the totem plugin, which uses gstreamer to do the gruntwork |
| 18:58.31 | kd3 | `yum install totem-mozplugin` should work if you have the right repos installed |
| 18:59.07 | TC-Work | thanks, let me give that a try |
| 19:02.11 | TC-Work | kd3: do i need to restart the system? |
| 19:02.19 | kd3 | shouldn't |
| 19:02.19 | TC-Work | because it does not seem to be working |
| 19:02.26 | kd3 | I installed it without restarting firefox |
| 19:02.29 | kd3 | about:plugins |
| 19:02.35 | kd3 | do you have the totem qt plugin listed? |
| 19:02.57 | TC-Work | nope |
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| 19:04.20 | kd3 | `rpm -qa gst\*|sort`; pastebin that? |
| 19:05.08 | TC-Work | http://pastebin.com/Agj9yHMC |
| 19:06.06 | kd3 | this should install all of the gstreamer-plugins: some of these probably don't exist for you unless you've got the rpmfusion repos installed |
| 19:06.09 | kd3 | yum install gstreamer-plugins-{good,bad,bad-free,bad-nonfree,base,base-tools,entrans,fc,good,ugly} |
| 19:07.24 | TC-Work | thats a lot of deps |
| 19:07.50 | kd3 | that's every plugin under the sun. I'm trying to figure out which of those has the qt support in it |
| 19:08.09 | TC-Work | the only ones it is pulling in is bad and ugly |
| 19:08.27 | TC-Work | and all the deps |
| 19:08.42 | kd3 | does `yum whatprovides */libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so` return anything for you?; totem-mozplugin should have handled all of the deps it needed |
| 19:09.59 | kd3 | -ugly has the quicktime support, so you're probably going to need to install the deps |
| 19:10.17 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 19:11.30 | TC-Work | the so file matched to totem |
| 19:12.12 | kd3 | install that package if you haven't already. you may need to restart firefox (I didn't) |
| 19:12.41 | TC-Work | installed everything, restarting ff now |
| 19:13.27 | TC-Work | *sigh* still no go |
| 19:13.33 | kd3 | !? |
| 19:13.47 | TC-Work | could be because of old ass cent5? |
| 19:14.39 | kd3 | 5 isn't that old... |
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| 19:15.06 | TC-Work | no, but it does pull older packages |
| 19:15.28 | Arrowmaster | do you have mplayer? |
| 19:15.34 | TC-Work | no |
| 19:15.58 | TC-Work | i was hoping to bypass that |
| 19:16.09 | Arrowmaster | i dont know if cent5 has gnome-mplayer but debian does and it comes with a browser plugin too |
| 19:16.21 | kd3 | does about:plugins have any totem plugins listed at all? |
| 19:17.37 | TC-Work | no |
| 19:18.17 | Fisker | i want a GTX680 kd3 |
| 19:18.19 | kd3 | wtf. `rpm -ql totem-mozplugin`; is your firefox checking there for plugins? |
| 19:18.19 | Fisker | can you help? |
| 19:18.26 | kd3 | go win the lottery, fisker |
| 19:18.39 | Fisker | that's silly |
| 19:19.49 | kd3 | you may want to copy the plugins listed in /lib/mozilla/plugins to your ~/.mozilla/plugins directory. firefox always checks there |
| 19:20.02 | TC-Work | actually...i dont think it is... |
| 19:21.01 | TC-Work | i cant find the 2 plugsins it has in either location |
| 19:21.24 | kd3 | `locate whatever-plugin.so` should turn it up |
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| 19:33.17 | TC-Work | my bad kd3, you had it right |
| 19:33.55 | Lopeppeppy | kd3 is always right, except when he's a velociraptor. Then he's very wrong. |
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| 19:36.42 | kd3 | speaking of velociraptors; hey, I know where this image was taken: http://i.imgur.com/P72eb.jpg |
| 19:37.23 | Fisker | Parnic ? |
| 19:37.38 | TC-Work | why yes, it does look familiar |
| 19:37.42 | Arrowmaster | kd3: i posted a video lastnight of it |
| 19:38.13 | Fisker | anaheim? |
| 19:38.25 | kd3 | indeed |
| 19:38.30 | Arrowmaster | kd3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBTV9l64EGA says comikaze |
| 19:39.15 | kd3 | heh, it's weird seeing all of the lights on in the halls |
| 19:41.07 | TC-Work | i think thats a woman in the suit |
| 19:42.04 | Arrowmaster | it is |
| 19:45.36 | Dagmar | Anaheim Convention Center |
| 19:45.45 | Dagmar | ...or a really bad whorehouse, judging from the carpet. |
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| 19:46.58 | bluspacecow | damn lol |
| 19:47.10 | bluspacecow | didnt notice that it was the anaheim convention center |
| 19:47.24 | bluspacecow | i just assumed they used that arful carpet in convention centers everywhere in the US |
| 19:47.35 | Dagmar | http://www.gnd-tech.com/content/399-GND-at-BlizzCon-2010 |
| 19:48.00 | Dagmar | Well ,the fontography on the hanging signs is also unique, but godawful carpet is fairly common in larger hotels and convention centers |
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| 19:51.09 | Arrowmaster | i didnt realize there were that many pillars inside the main hall at anaheim, maybe its because they kept it dark |
| 19:52.57 | Dagmar | I think that picture is along the concourse outside the convention halls |
| 19:53.13 | Arrowmaster | the video is of inside though |
| 19:53.24 | Dagmar | I suppose we have TERRURISTS to blame for why I can't find a nice set of internal diagrams and pictures on their website |
| 19:53.54 | Dagmar | The Nashville Convention Center had enough up on it for me to model the damn thing in Unreal Tournament until all that mess |
| 19:54.33 | Dagmar | ...and there's worse carpet out there. The remodeling of the hotel we have PhreakNIC at managed to really go above and beyond. |
| 19:55.41 | Dagmar | The ninth floor meeting area could probably melt cheaper digital cameras. |
| 19:55.44 | Lopeppeppy | My college library had alternating 3" red and blue stripes. Eeeeek. |
| 19:56.19 | Dagmar | Yeah the thinking is that the more garish it is, the less likely you'll notice wear and tear from foot traffic... because you're just not going to willingly look too closely at it. |
| 19:58.22 | Dagmar | If it were all one solid, reasonable color, or a muted pattern, you'd start seeing it mottle and age within a year |
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| 20:34.22 | TC-Work | thats not bad, 45 min to reimage my machine and get everything set up again |
| 20:36.12 | Lopeppeppy | Damn. You're an imaging demon! |
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| 20:36.52 | TC-Work | blinks @ peppy |
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| 20:37.35 | dan23874 | Hey guys :) |
| 20:38.22 | Gnarfoz | Lopeppeppy: or a daemon |
| 20:38.37 | Lopeppeppy | I saw what you did there, Gnarfoz. |
| 20:43.15 | dan23874 | Hey guys, was wondering if anyone would like to send me a Scroll of Resurrection? - So that i can get back in wow again :-) - really don't want to bother with paying for faction and realm change, for playing with my friends, and they can't send me one because of our law here ind Denmark. So stupid! Just whisper me if you would like to do it, i did by the way hear something about recieving a |
| 20:43.15 | dan23874 | mount for it. |
| 20:44.44 | Maldivia | if I remember correctly, you need someone from the realm you want to transfer to send you the scroll |
| 20:45.04 | Maldivia | so why not get one of the guild-mates of your friends to do it? |
| 20:45.42 | Corrodias | reads a little of the faq |
| 20:45.43 | dan23874 | Are you sure because the Scroll of Resurrection has been revamped. I haven't asked them to ask their mates yet, but that might be a possiblity. :-) |
| 20:46.00 | dan23874 | Just wanted to hear anyone out before that. :-) |
| 20:46.02 | Corrodias | wow, i do not even know what to say about these scrolls. why don't they just hand out free levels? oh, they do. |
| 20:46.17 | dan23874 | I'm going to use it on a level 85 :-) |
| 20:46.28 | dan23874 | By the way, where does mages stand now? :-) |
| 20:46.44 | dan23874 | Would it be better to get free levels on another class? :-) |
| 20:46.47 | dan23874 | Hehe |
| 20:47.10 | bluspacecow | oddly enough theres a reddit subedit for that |
| 20:47.51 | dan23874 | For what? :-) - I just don't want to post my email in a forum because of annoying spam emails :-) |
| 20:49.25 | Arrowmaster | fucking nvidia drivers |
| 20:49.46 | Maldivia | Arrowmaster: there are better things to hump, than the nvidia drivers... |
| 20:56.36 | Stanzilla | Fisker man |
| 20:57.49 | TC-Work | dan23874: you can only xfer to the realm of the invitee |
| 20:58.06 | TC-Work | inviter rather |
| 20:58.10 | TC-Work | ~ping |
| 20:58.10 | purl | ~pong |
| 20:59.51 | dan23874 | Ahh okay :) |
| 21:00.29 | dan23874 | Anyone on stormscale? :) :P |
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| 21:02.33 | mikma | shirik: http://imgur.com/gallery/9QxLD |
| 21:03.07 | Maldivia | so... anyone else getting spammed with Assassin's Creed Revelations coupons on Steam? |
| 21:03.54 | Corrodias | nope, though i might enjoy it |
| 21:03.58 | dan23874 | Hehe |
| 21:04.10 | dan23874 | weird spam attack. |
| 21:04.22 | Maldivia | well, they are slowly ticking into my inventory :P |
| 21:04.32 | dan23874 | :P |
| 21:04.50 | Corrodias | from whom? |
| 21:04.54 | mikma | cairenn: nsfw, lol, http://youtu.be/hNhnCD0EZtE |
| 21:05.00 | Maldivia | but searching a bit on the web, I can see I'm not the only one... one guy has 20 so far: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Arteus1/inventory/#753 |
| 21:05.18 | Cairenn | hehhee |
| 21:07.49 | Corrodias | my question stands |
| 21:08.16 | Maldivia | Corrodias: from Valve? Ubisoft? on idea... can see Fisker has gotten a few as well :P |
| 21:09.02 | Corrodias | oh, they're not showing up as things thave have been given to you, but rather just exist in your inventory? |
| 21:09.36 | Maldivia | well, when I started steam, I had a notification that items were added to my inventory |
| 21:10.14 | kd3 | same here |
| 21:10.40 | Maldivia | yeah, have a might and magic clash heroes coupon as well :) |
| 21:12.01 | Stanzilla | Maldivia: I got them |
| 21:12.43 | Maldivia | couldn't they atleast have been for different games, instead of a bunch for the same |
| 21:14.18 | Arrowmaster | all i have in my steam inventory is HL2, HL2:EP1, and Steam Mobile |
| 21:15.38 | Gnarfoz | steam in your steam? |
| 21:16.00 | Corrodias | i don't think i'd even buy it half off right now. game's $75. |
| 21:17.02 | Corrodias | that's assuming i'd accept the Ubisoft DRM Shit |
| 21:17.34 | Maldivia | it's listed for 49.95 here |
| 21:17.59 | Corrodias | check the dlc. |
| 21:18.05 | foxlit | new policy register all the DRMshit games on separate accounts. |
| 21:18.08 | Corrodias | for the whole game, it's another $23.change |
| 21:18.10 | foxlit | s/y/y:/ |
| 21:19.31 | Corrodias | that's an interesting plan until they shut down the registration servers. |
| 21:19.47 | Corrodias | might as well just crack it now |
| 21:20.34 | foxlit | to be fair, the auth servers will probably outlive my desire to play those games |
| 21:21.05 | Corrodias | if that winds up being the case for me, it surely means it isn't worth $75. |
| 21:23.36 | Maldivia | well, you can save $25 with a coupon |
| 21:32.36 | bluspacecow | ... |
| 21:32.37 | bluspacecow | http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6615883/Cannabis-vending-machine-trialled |
| 21:32.40 | bluspacecow | only in NZ |
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| 21:49.39 | Corrodias | in fact, all the information i can find is that even Revelations uses the Online Services Platform. it requires "activation" the first time it's played. what, that particular installation? details are unsurprisingly slim. :P |
| 21:55.56 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if they are going to fuck over north american customers again with AC3 |
| 21:56.12 | Corrodias | what was the previous time? |
| 21:56.52 | Arrowmaster | well for AC:R we didnt get the awesome collectors edition europe got |
| 21:57.33 | Corrodias | Arrowmaster, you just don't understand antiglobalization. you can't just let players buy the same thing in different places, or let them play together. |
| 21:57.41 | Arrowmaster | for AC:B we couldnt get one of the day 1 retailer exclusive DLCs because only the ausi CE got it |
| 21:57.41 | Corrodias | who knows what they'd demand next? |
| 21:58.26 | Arrowmaster | wait that was AC2 i think |
| 21:58.49 | Arrowmaster | yeah AC2 CE was completely different for different regions |
| 21:59.11 | Arrowmaster | only ausis got the cool black armor one with the extra dlc level |
| 22:00.15 | Corrodias | that improved sales, you see, because fuck you. |
| 22:01.25 | Arrowmaster | and the only way to get that 3rd level was to purchase the pack of all 3 of them bundled with a dlc mission later even though i had 2/3 of them |
| 22:04.20 | Corrodias | ah, so that's where the fucking occured |
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| 22:44.45 | Cairenn | ROFL! Okay, I've had that linked to me any number of times, but that was the first time I've actually been able to sit and listen to it ... ROFL! |
| 22:44.51 | Cairenn | So very fucking true! |
| 22:45.57 | bluspacecow | QFFT? |
| 22:46.11 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 22:46.37 | bluspacecow | <------ just stayed up all night watching torchwood |
| 22:47.47 | Xyphoid | just don't watch miracle day :( |
| 22:51.39 | bluspacecow | y ? everybody dies |
| 22:51.59 | bluspacecow | bear in mind i just finished watching season 3. |
| 22:52.52 | Xyphoid | it's just not very good |
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| 22:53.26 | Xyphoid | would have been okay as a 2-parter, but it's 10 very slow episodes |
| 23:05.13 | Cairenn | I gotta say - if you have to put up with religious groups knocking on your door, far better that it been the Mormons than the Jehovah's Witnesses. The Mormons at least will accept your first "I'm not interested" and won't keep pestering you about it. |
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| 23:10.39 | foxlit | "I'm not interested"? That's a wasted opportunity. |
| 23:10.56 | foxlit | Suggest that they join your goat sacrifice ritual instead. |
| 23:11.33 | cogwheel | Yeah, no matter how many JWs we scare away with our baby-eating atheism, they still keep coming back. |
| 23:12.03 | cogwheel | last time they stuffed a "how do you see Jesus" flyer in our door. I'm tempted to tape it back up on the door with a note "As an imaginary friend for grown-ups" |
| 23:12.38 | bluspacecow | "by dying" |
| 23:13.02 | Corrodias | "LSD" |
| 23:13.02 | Maldivia | Cairenn: just tell them you're one of the 144000 :) |
| 23:13.12 | Cairenn | heh |
| 23:14.42 | foxlit | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/144000_(number)#Christianity |
| 23:14.52 | foxlit | "Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until after we have sealed the servants of God on their foreheads." << I still can't parse that. |
| 23:17.39 | TC-Work | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1324892969/soundlazer cool, but rather expensive |
| 23:21.09 | Jamash | to a serious audio geek, $175 is practically free |
| 23:27.57 | Jamash | well, windows is being stupid, time to reboot |
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| 23:40.35 | TC-Work | snsfw http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JQ6DWGeiHSs |
| 23:40.56 | bluspacecow | snsfw ? |
| 23:41.04 | TC-Work | seriously nsfw |
| 23:41.17 | bluspacecow | oh |
| 23:41.24 | bluspacecow | i thoght it meant safe not safe for work |
| 23:41.27 | bluspacecow | like tame nsfw |
| 23:42.03 | TC-Work | a bad confusion to have |
| 23:44.45 | bluspacecow | i need sleeps |
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| 23:53.11 | Mr_Rabies | hrmmm |
| 23:53.20 | Mr_Rabies | why can't i find the "Skip Launcher" button on the launcher anymore D: |
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| 23:59.31 | karl_w_w | I can't imagine youtube would allow hosting of something snsfw |
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