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| 15:03.02 | Lopeppeppy | alt tab eats your cookies, spills your beer, and pees in your cheerios. True facts. |
| 15:10.21 | karl_w_w | maximised windowed mode uses a different gamma setting |
| 15:10.51 | karl_w_w | way too dark i cant see shit on my screen :P |
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| 15:27.57 | Mikk | can configure that in your gfx card controls |
| 15:44.36 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: are you able to visit my wife in castleville? |
| 15:46.53 | bluspacecow | hmmmm |
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| 15:49.39 | Lopeppeppy | No Ackis. Not even using the trick that lets me get to you. Ze bug, she is buggy. But I send her presents! |
| 15:49.49 | Lopeppeppy | Presents make up for my absentee love. |
| 15:50.26 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 15:50.37 | bluspacecow | it say i no longer ally of u ackis ! |
| 15:50.39 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 15:52.03 | Lopeppeppy | Buggy game is buggyful. |
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| 15:55.49 | Ackis | bluspacecow: you need to visit me more often to be an ally!!! |
| 15:55.53 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: sad face |
| 15:56.04 | bluspacecow | broface |
| 16:01.23 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 16:01.35 | Fisker | i wonder why people ask if GM's "missed their ticket" |
| 16:01.37 | bluspacecow | broface fisker |
| 16:01.55 | Fisker | do people think that every hour some guy comes in with 20 wheelbarrows full of tickets and dumps it on the floor? |
| 16:02.56 | bluspacecow | that would be lolz |
| 16:03.57 | Lopeppeppy | It's the "instant response" culture we've got. |
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| 16:08.50 | pompy | http://gamerant.com/the-elder-scrolls-online-mmo-robk-138696/ |
| 16:12.27 | pompy | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:12.32 | pompy | it was available last night, damn |
| 16:18.11 | Fisker | old pompy |
| 16:18.28 | Fisker | here's to preordering years in advance |
| 16:18.57 | Corrodias | i can see it now |
| 16:19.06 | Corrodias | Diablo 3 sparkleponies, onlt $40 each |
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| 16:19.26 | bluspacecow | *pays* |
| 16:19.36 | nevcairiel | whats even funnier is that i pre-ordered the CE for the same price as the normal retail version is being sold now |
| 16:19.44 | Corrodias | same realm setup as last time, $25 to move your characters in what should be an automated process anyway |
| 16:20.43 | kullervo | I love the wordfilter here |
| 16:20.58 | kullervo | oh wait, it's... not a wordfiltered channel o.O Where'd that sparkleponies come from |
| 16:21.09 | nevcairiel | he wrote that |
| 16:21.23 | Corrodias | one of the game items they sell in WoW |
| 16:21.25 | kullervo | "duh" obviously |
| 16:23.54 | Corrodias | it's a reasonable thing to sell. but the realm/class/whatever change charges don't make sense from a technical standpoint. it's the f2p model in a subscription game. |
| 16:25.43 | Corrodias | you're smarter than you look. you don't want to start a new round of a discussion that has been played out thousands of times. |
| 16:26.22 | nevcairiel | the f2p model is paying for actual ingame advantages |
| 16:26.40 | nevcairiel | swithcing realm is a convenience |
| 16:26.45 | nevcairiel | you dont have to level a new char |
| 16:26.57 | Corrodias | A) not everything, in fact most sales are for cosmetic things in some games; B) not having to level isn't an advantage? |
| 16:27.15 | nevcairiel | nothing you couldnt do just iwth some time |
| 16:28.25 | Corrodias | you know what else i could do with a little time? write a program to move a character from one realm to another. what do they have to do, hire a trained monkey to come in and manually carry a USB drive from one server farm to another? |
| 16:29.11 | nevcairiel | having to pay for it also ensures more steady populations instead of everyone just jumping around |
| 16:29.52 | Corrodias | is that speculation? when have we seen a popular game offer that option? |
| 16:30.31 | nevcairiel | everything is speculation, like your assumption that doing it requires no admin intervention |
| 16:30.52 | Humbedooh | monkeys are expensive, you know |
| 16:30.58 | Corrodias | maybe it does. see the trained monkey comment. but it shouldn't. |
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| 16:39.59 | Fisker | so Stanzilla |
| 16:40.02 | Fisker | master race? |
| 16:40.22 | Stanzilla | germans? |
| 16:40.33 | Fisker | dude Stanzilla |
| 16:40.41 | Fisker | WW2 was 70 years ago |
| 16:40.46 | Fisker | give it a rest |
| 16:40.54 | Fisker | i mean Nvidia of course |
| 16:41.22 | Stanzilla | ok |
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| 17:07.25 | pompy | http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/429858_10151412868015022_14696440021_23268815_641697656_n.jpg lol nice |
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| 17:08.02 | Cide | not sure what I'm looking at |
| 17:08.05 | Cide | but it looks delicious |
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| 17:11.06 | Maldivia | foxy :P |
| 17:17.15 | Thunder_Child | looks like salsa |
| 17:17.52 | Cide | well yeah |
| 17:18.09 | Cide | but I expected there to be some other reason for linking the image |
| 17:18.13 | Cide | like that weird looking bread |
| 17:18.14 | Cide | thingie |
| 17:18.18 | Cide | that I didn't quite understand |
| 17:18.23 | Cide | but yes, delicious salsa |
| 17:22.05 | Thunder_Child | i think the rason for linking the image was to chip in the shape of a fox |
| 17:22.08 | Fisker | need an ogg pls |
| 17:22.19 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: a granny ogg? |
| 17:22.30 | Cide | I did not figure out that it was a fox until you just now said so -_- |
| 17:22.32 | Fisker | no |
| 17:22.35 | Fisker | just a sound ogg |
| 17:22.37 | Fisker | :3 |
| 17:22.54 | Fisker | :( |
| 17:23.00 | Fisker | i thought we were friends Cide |
| 17:23.04 | Cide | we were |
| 17:23.06 | Cide | but are we? |
| 17:24.16 | Fisker | i'm a dope |
| 17:24.22 | Cide | and I'm on a horse |
| 17:24.39 | Fisker | my authenticator is gone |
| 17:24.44 | Fisker | think i might've taken it to work :( |
| 17:24.49 | Cide | baddie disease |
| 17:26.15 | Fisker | <-boss |
| 17:28.21 | Fisker | need .ogg file pls |
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| 17:29.47 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, go get it from work? |
| 17:30.04 | Fisker | it's locked and weekend? |
| 17:31.12 | Fisker | though it turned out to just have slipped out my pocket |
| 17:31.14 | Fisker | so i found it |
| 17:31.23 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, good, you're not pooched for 48 hours then. |
| 17:35.30 | Lopeppeppy | alestane: I double dog dare you! http://www.sprinklebakes.com/2012/03/sweet-and-salty-guinness-chocolate-pie.html |
| 17:38.54 | pompy | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0050SZC5U |
| 17:38.57 | pompy | available again |
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| 17:41.07 | alestane | Actually, Peppy, that looks amazing. |
| 17:41.21 | Lopeppeppy | Doesn't it? |
| 17:42.27 | Lopeppeppy | I could get Kat addicted to Pinterest for you, no charge. |
| 17:44.48 | Kraps | can pdfs that are email attachments be opened on the ipad? |
| 17:46.00 | Lopeppeppy | If they have an app to do that. Or their email client does that, using Safari. |
| 17:46.28 | Lopeppeppy | This is theory, I don't have mine here to test for you, sorry. :( |
| 17:48.36 | Kraps | my itouch can |
| 17:50.09 | Fisker | you still won't get it pompy |
| 17:51.44 | durcyn | pdf display is built in to ios, you don't need a third party app |
| 17:52.16 | Fisker | on Android you can run a third party app |
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| 17:56.33 | starlon | slow poke github is slow |
| 17:57.36 | Lopeppeppy | buy it a pony |
| 17:58.20 | Cide | hm |
| 17:58.26 | Cide | has anyone experience using luabind? amro maybe? |
| 17:58.29 | Cide | or alestane? |
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| 18:03.12 | Fisker | looks like noone gives a shit about Qt Adys :( |
| 18:03.21 | Adys | Fisker: ? |
| 18:03.49 | Fisker | i see nothing to decompile qt resource files |
| 18:03.58 | Adys | what files? |
| 18:04.04 | Fisker | .rcc |
| 18:04.14 | Adys | what files specifically? |
| 18:04.20 | Maldivia | you want to extract the external_resources.rcc file from D3 installer |
| 18:04.22 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 18:04.23 | Maldivia | ? |
| 18:04.26 | Adys | ah |
| 18:04.28 | Adys | rcc are resource collections |
| 18:04.29 | Cide | d3 uses qt? |
| 18:04.31 | Cide | that's awesome |
| 18:04.33 | Maldivia | Fisker: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23189439/external_resources.rar |
| 18:04.37 | Maldivia | there you go |
| 18:04.42 | Adys | Cide: its launcher does, dunno about d3 itself |
| 18:04.47 | Cide | go blizzard |
| 18:04.49 | Adys | Maldivia: whats that? |
| 18:05.04 | Fisker | can't get worse than SC2 atleast |
| 18:05.07 | Adys | and i dont get why you would want to decompile rcc files |
| 18:05.08 | Maldivia | Adys: the external_resources.rcc file extracted, and compressed to a rar instead :P |
| 18:05.14 | Adys | they're just used in the gui |
| 18:05.30 | Adys | Maldivia: whats in there? |
| 18:05.38 | Maldivia | Adys: it contains the tristam music used in the D3 installer, and the slideshow |
| 18:05.42 | Fisker | ogg were messing me up Maldivia :O |
| 18:05.50 | Fisker | there's like a million ogg's per ogg |
| 18:05.51 | Fisker | :D |
| 18:05.53 | Adys | right so just launcher stuff |
| 18:06.00 | Maldivia | yep, just the launcher |
| 18:06.04 | Fisker | heck |
| 18:06.12 | Maldivia | I've been so kind to include the extracted slideshow text as well :) |
| 18:06.20 | Fisker | could just as well have ripped the tune from the youtube video |
| 18:06.26 | Adys | Maldivia: what did you use to decompress it? i didnt know qt had a way to decompile rccs |
| 18:06.28 | Adys | tho its an open format |
| 18:06.40 | Maldivia | just reverse engineered it |
| 18:06.42 | Fisker | looks to me like noone bothered :P |
| 18:06.43 | Maldivia | didn't take long |
| 18:06.48 | Fisker | "reverse engineered" |
| 18:06.49 | Cide | Maldivia |
| 18:06.51 | Cide | good guy hacker |
| 18:07.08 | Fisker | i just edited the file in notepad |
| 18:07.08 | Adys | Maldivia: you might wanna hit up qt-project if you make a real tool out of it |
| 18:07.34 | Maldivia | well, didn't know it was a qt resource bundle :P |
| 18:07.45 | Maldivia | just thought it was some blizzard format |
| 18:08.04 | Adys | speaking of qt |
| 18:08.16 | Adys | im trying to compile qt5 and its failing hard |
| 18:09.09 | Adys | [16:25:54] <Adys> I'm getting the following error compiling qt5 (qdebug.h: no such file or directory) http://paste2.org/p/1942422 |
| 18:09.15 | Maldivia | but if it us indeed a qt resource file, guess that than help me figure out what kind of compression they're using - 3 of the files are compressed |
| 18:09.53 | Adys | Maldivia: i think the rcc compiler is part of qmake |
| 18:09.53 | Adys | sec |
| 18:10.08 | Maldivia | (the german, french and italian slide shows) |
| 18:10.24 | Fisker | what 3 are those Maldivia ? |
| 18:10.43 | Maldivia | slideshow_de_DE.qm, and fr_FR and it_IT |
| 18:11.10 | Fisker | why would they do that? |
| 18:11.23 | Maldivia | no idea, all the other files are uncompressed |
| 18:11.24 | Adys | Maldivia: those are Qt translator files |
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| 18:11.35 | Adys | Maldivia: you can load them with QTranslator |
| 18:11.58 | Maldivia | heh |
| 18:12.26 | Maldivia | well, never worked with qt, so :P |
| 18:12.54 | Adys | Maldivia: make a quick&dirty qt app and do QTranslator* t = new QTranslator(); translator->load("slideshow_de_DE", "/path/to/directory") |
| 18:13.08 | Adys | https://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qtranslator.html |
| 18:13.09 | Maldivia | well, just did a quick reverse of the file format, and dumped the content |
| 18:13.31 | Maldivia | that would explain why it's in UTF-16BE format... Blizzard usually doesn't use that |
| 18:13.50 | Adys | are those files in there? |
| 18:13.58 | Adys | in the rar |
| 18:14.01 | Maldivia | yeah |
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| 18:18.07 | AcidWeb | http://ircimg.net/a_little_bit_of_science_humor.jpg |
| 18:19.11 | Adys | hm |
| 18:19.27 | Maldivia | ? |
| 18:19.28 | Adys | cbreak: is there a way to see all valid translations in a qm files from QTranslator? |
| 18:22.21 | Adys | Maldivia: https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qt/blobs/4.8/src/corelib/kernel/qtranslator.cpp fyi |
| 18:22.41 | Adys | god, gitorious sucks =:/ |
| 18:22.58 | alestane | Peppy, what do you think beer would do to ordinary egg meringue? Most of us can't stand marshmallow. |
| 18:23.50 | cbreak | Adys: sorry, I've not used QML or QTranslator |
| 18:24.12 | Maldivia | Adys: so that's what the first fucked up 16 bytes are... just the magic marker :P |
| 18:24.22 | Adys | lol |
| 18:24.59 | Adys | cbreak: also, you compiled qt5? |
| 18:25.03 | Adys | [16:25:54] <Adys> I'm getting the following error compiling qt5 (qdebug.h: no such file or directory) http://paste2.org/p/1942422 |
| 18:25.13 | Adys | only happens in qtsvg |
| 18:25.18 | cbreak | no, I'll stick with Qt 4.8 for backwards compatibility |
| 18:25.24 | Adys | bah |
| 18:25.30 | cbreak | still on snow leopard too, but I'll have to transition to Lion soon |
| 18:25.39 | Cide | I know the problem Adys |
| 18:25.39 | cbreak | already took the change from qmake to cmake though :) |
| 18:25.47 | Cide | it can't find qdebug.h |
| 18:25.50 | nevcairiel | 5 is just unstable, i wouldnt be surprised if its just a bug in the current code base :P |
| 18:25.55 | Adys | cbreak: oO? qt is switching to cmake? |
| 18:26.07 | Cide | that would be awesome |
| 18:26.09 | cbreak | no, I am |
| 18:26.14 | Adys | that WOULD be awesome |
| 18:26.20 | cbreak | because qmake can't create project files that XCode 4 can read |
| 18:26.32 | Adys | tho anything is better than autoconf |
| 18:26.34 | cbreak | (and a bunch of other problems) |
| 18:26.45 | cbreak | I don't like cmake at all |
| 18:26.52 | cbreak | but somehow everything else is worse :( |
| 18:26.59 | Cide | well yeah |
| 18:27.08 | Cide | the problem it's trying to solve is pretty ugly though |
| 18:27.08 | nevcairiel | there is just no good build system |
| 18:27.20 | Adys | you assholes made me forget my meeting with my client |
| 18:27.25 | Cide | good |
| 18:27.25 | Adys | afk |
| 18:27.27 | cbreak | there are, but they aren't portable at all :/ |
| 18:27.40 | Cide | then that is not a solution :P |
| 18:28.14 | Maldivia | Adys: ok, seeing the meaning of all the stuff I just ignored in those qm files... now I can say for certain, it's a giid thing I ignored them, what a weird format |
| 18:28.40 | Cide | life is giid |
| 18:29.01 | Maldivia | yes it is :P |
| 18:29.15 | Maldivia | and so is dinner.. yay! :P |
| 18:34.33 | Adys | Maldivia: i had roasted chicken, it was the best thing ever |
| 18:34.38 | Adys | and Cide |
| 18:34.46 | Adys | i bought £60 worth of hotel-quality pillows |
| 18:34.49 | Adys | im loving it |
| 18:35.02 | Adys | i'm never not sleeping again |
| 18:38.30 | Cide | that is pretty awesome |
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| 18:46.44 | Mikk | one of 50 nominees for 20 slots of free trial of Navibot S |
| 18:46.49 | Mikk | crosses fingers |
| 18:47.16 | Cide | is that something related to zelda: ocarina of time |
| 18:48.56 | Cide | seems to be a robot vacuum cleaner? |
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| 18:50.14 | Gnarfoz | someone should change the topic, lest people think it's current :P |
| 18:50.42 | Cide | I switch DST settings every time I read the topic, myself |
| 18:50.45 | Cide | it's pretty fucked up |
| 18:51.16 | nevcairiel | as if every country on the world switches clocks on the same day |
| 18:51.43 | Mikk | yes robot vacuum cleaner |
| 18:51.44 | Mikk | for freez |
| 18:52.45 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: we should let the topic stand, maybe it'll remind us next week to actually do it |
| 18:52.55 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: yeah, thought of that, too |
| 18:53.08 | nevcairiel | although, i have no clock that doesnt switch itself |
| 18:53.15 | nevcairiel | so, meh |
| 18:53.30 | nevcairiel | i'll just wake up and wonder why the hell its so late already |
| 18:53.34 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: and yeah, I tried to point out last week that there should be an additional "today" in that pair of parentheses |
| 18:55.05 | nevcairiel | anyone seen the J.Edgar movie? Is it worth watching? |
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| 18:55.20 | Gnarfoz | ugh |
| 18:55.21 | Gnarfoz | depends |
| 18:55.49 | nevcairiel | on? =P |
| 18:56.15 | Cide | do you like shit? |
| 18:56.15 | Gnarfoz | if you're in the mood for a slow movie |
| 18:58.00 | Fisker | does D3 work for you Gnarfoz ? |
| 18:58.15 | Gnarfoz | "error downloading" or something |
| 18:58.20 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 18:58.21 | Gnarfoz | i.e. patch servers down |
| 18:58.22 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 18:58.28 | Fisker | idk |
| 18:58.35 | Gnarfoz | ye |
| 18:58.37 | Fisker | but same proble |
| 18:59.17 | Fisker | with an m |
| 18:59.28 | amro | Cide: yeah I used it, but I dropped it in favor of the plain API |
| 18:59.53 | Cide | might do that also |
| 19:00.02 | Cide | I don't feel like I have enough control |
| 19:00.19 | Cide | managed to get around the issue I was having though |
| 19:02.29 | amro | yeah luabind is nice for quick and easy cases, but if you try to do anything weird it blows up in your face |
| 19:03.10 | amro | you're using it for the game? |
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| 19:05.02 | Cide | ya |
| 19:05.19 | amro | do you have live editing/reloading setup? |
| 19:05.32 | Cide | not yet |
| 19:05.55 | Cide | but it's pretty data driven so I just haven't gotten around to properly implementing it |
| 19:05.55 | amro | there's an easy way to do it |
| 19:06.06 | amro | if not ShipMetatable then ShipMetatable = {} end |
| 19:06.15 | amro | do that for all your mts/initialization code |
| 19:06.22 | amro | then all you ahve to do is rerun the scripts |
| 19:06.51 | amro | I have it bound to Tab, it's the best thing ever |
| 19:08.26 | Cide | ShipMetatable? |
| 19:08.55 | BlackNet | oh cool |
| 19:08.59 | BlackNet | anyone here use npcscan? |
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| 19:10.23 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=253992&postcount=8 |
| 19:10.41 | Maldivia | Adys: £60 and pillows.... don't really see how you can get multiple pillows for £60 |
| 19:10.49 | foxlit | that benchmark is missing just one tiny important thing |
| 19:10.49 | amro | Cide: that's just an example, http://pastebin.ca/2128891 |
| 19:10.58 | foxlit | see if you can spot it! |
| 19:11.11 | amro | that line is so that when you rerun the script, it only updates any changes you made to the functions to the existing metatable |
| 19:11.19 | amro | which means any existing ships will start behaving differently |
| 19:11.23 | amro | based on the new code |
| 19:11.59 | foxlit | is there some weird reason you're using rawget in __index? |
| 19:13.51 | amro | so it doesn't trigger itself |
| 19:14.33 | Cide | __index is only called for keys that don't exist |
| 19:14.38 | foxlit | okay, so what you actually meant was return rawget(ShipMetatable, k) |
| 19:14.41 | Cide | so that wouldn't happen anyway |
| 19:14.49 | Cide | or I did not actually look |
| 19:14.57 | foxlit | Cide: you're right, but it recurses |
| 19:15.04 | foxlit | on the other hand, no, it doesn't |
| 19:15.14 | foxlit | since ShipMetatable is not a metatable of ShipMetatable |
| 19:15.55 | amro | no, what I meant was if rawget(t, k) then return t[k] if __index only triggers for non existant keys |
| 19:15.55 | Cide | amro: ah, gotcha |
| 19:16.08 | amro | otherwise, ship[nonexistant] would recurse on if t[k] |
| 19:16.39 | foxlit | your entire if seems is redundant -- the condition will never be true |
| 19:16.56 | foxlit | because if t[k] existed, __index would not be called in the first place. |
| 19:17.23 | amro | I guess so |
| 19:17.30 | amro | I don't like this inconsistency between tables and udata |
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| 19:42.36 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: now it just skips to the login screen, but can't log in xD |
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| 19:45.03 | Fisker | ):( |
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| 19:47.38 | Lopeppeppy | Anyone want to help me vote in a contest? *evil grin* |
| 19:48.16 | Fisker | Nop |
| 19:49.43 | starlon | Oh well. I guess Netflix loses my subscription. |
| 19:49.55 | starlon | Since their player doesn't work on Linux and my tablet's crap. |
| 19:50.03 | starlon | Maybe the Nexus S will be better. |
| 19:50.35 | starlon | Oh wrong channel. |
| 19:50.45 | starlon | <-- ID10T |
| 19:51.06 | TC-Work | ~agree starlon |
| 19:51.06 | purl | ACTION forces starlon to agree with tc-work. "Its no matter, tc-work is always right starlon" |
| 19:51.23 | TC-Work | ...not what i meant |
| 19:52.39 | starlon | Amazon player works under Linux anyways, even though I dislike the company. |
| 19:55.29 | Fisker | A |
| 19:55.50 | Fisker | Best? |
| 19:56.12 | Lopeppeppy | No, I'm strongly in favor of C. |
| 19:59.09 | Fisker | :(, 3,0 attack on the left hand corner of the day. The only thing that you can get a chance to win a free email service and we will be able to get the best way to get the latest version of the most important thing is that the information contained in this message. |
| 19:59.47 | Jamash | wat |
| 20:00.31 | Jamash | guize my ipod nano 6g arrived |
| 20:02.45 | Jamash | it has no soap, but it does have radio |
| 20:03.10 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: https://twitter.com/#!/Lylirra/status/180721068334526464 boo. it's not even 10pm OUR time, let alone their crazy time |
| 20:13.54 | Arrowmaster | haha im watching the recorded practice for the melbourne grand prix and while nobody is on the track one of the chopper cams goes off to the beach to watch kite surfing lol |
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| 20:18.18 | Gnarfoz | grand prix? you should listen to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll1_SmbUDSI&video=unblocked |
| 20:18.46 | Gnarfoz | also, I just updated my graphics drivers without having to reboot. I like how that has finally become a reality |
| 20:19.11 | Arrowmaster | last episode has slash playing the song at the end |
| 20:21.57 | Gnarfoz | I know, I hadn't bothered before to look it up, but Jeremy said the song's name, so I did |
| 20:22.17 | Gnarfoz | had I done it before, I'd probably have searched for "top gear theme", though :P |
| 20:22.20 | amro | Gnarfoz: ? it's been possible for a while |
| 20:23.25 | Arrowmaster | invoke-rc.d gdm3 stop && modprobe -r nvidia && modprobe nvidia && invoke-rc.d gdm3 start |
| 20:23.30 | Gnarfoz | amro: possible since Vista at least, I think, but you know that installers/setups of a lot of software that don't actually need a reboot still force you to do one |
| 20:23.40 | amro | oh windows |
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| 20:24.01 | Gnarfoz | it's not like pointing out Linux can do it would make much sense |
| 20:24.05 | Gnarfoz | ;P |
| 20:24.24 | Gnarfoz | (or has it only recently gained that ability, I doubt that?) |
| 20:24.24 | amro | Arrowmaster: I thought you moved back from gnome3 |
| 20:24.46 | amro | Gnarfoz: well ATI drivers still force you to reboot on linux iirc |
| 20:24.49 | Gnarfoz | btw, wouldn't stopping gdm interrupt all your GUI programs? |
| 20:24.58 | Arrowmaster | it does |
| 20:25.03 | Gnarfoz | ergh |
| 20:25.10 | TC-Work | so it's about the same as rebooting |
| 20:25.15 | Gnarfoz | sad to say but "that's worse than windows, then" |
| 20:25.16 | amro | not really |
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| 20:25.26 | Arrowmaster | cant unload the kernel module while Xorg is running |
| 20:25.40 | TC-Work | although even if you dont have to restart on windows still still messes up all layouts |
| 20:25.48 | Gnarfoz | TC-Work: all laywhats? |
| 20:25.49 | amro | my desktop goes back the way it was before the "reboot", including open apps |
| 20:25.50 | TC-Work | and it's really bad with multiple monitors |
| 20:26.00 | TC-Work | layouts |
| 20:26.08 | Gnarfoz | what do you mean by that, layouts of what |
| 20:26.10 | TC-Work | like how your windows are arragned |
| 20:26.14 | Gnarfoz | hm? no |
| 20:26.21 | TC-Work | arranged* |
| 20:26.22 | Gnarfoz | nothing at all changed, the screen just went black for 2 seconds |
| 20:26.34 | TC-Work | how many monitors do you have? |
| 20:26.37 | Gnarfoz | 1 here |
| 20:26.43 | Gnarfoz | but it's the same at work with 2 |
| 20:26.45 | TC-Work | maybe it's just a multi-monitor thing then |
| 20:26.52 | Gnarfoz | or I'm lucky and you're not |
| 20:26.53 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:27.00 | TC-Work | happens on mine, all gets smaller and pushed to one monitor |
| 20:27.02 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 20:27.06 | Gnarfoz | maybe I misremember, too |
| 20:27.25 | Gnarfoz | also @work is intel integrated crap vs. nvidia @ home |
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| 20:29.07 | Gnarfoz | totally different topic: say I have a server that has both ipv4 and ipv6 connectivity and my home connection only has ipv4 (and I'm sadly on a router that I can't configure much), is it (easily? at all?) possible to create a setup where I could use ipv6 from home? |
| 20:29.20 | Gnarfoz | (basically, this amounts to being my own tunnel provider, I guess?) |
| 20:31.01 | Arrowmaster | yeah you could do it |
| 20:31.04 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:35.52 | Gnarfoz | it would probably require work, yes |
| 20:35.53 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 20:40.37 | Fisker | i meant being at work at 21 :O |
| 20:47.03 | Gnarfoz | not sure what exactly, but you misread something as me being at work right now, I'm not |
| 20:48.33 | Jammer | Gnarfoz: why do you need ipv6? |
| 20:48.46 | Gnarfoz | same reason anyone needs it |
| 20:49.31 | Gnarfoz | put another way: choose from: for fun, because it's the future, because I can, I'm a nerd, etc ;) |
| 20:50.15 | Fisker | hey Gnarfoz |
| 20:50.20 | Gnarfoz | sup |
| 20:50.26 | Gnarfoz | soup? |
| 20:51.00 | Jammer | having true ipv6 connectivity would be nice I guess but if you have to route your connections through 3rd party server then seems rather pointless :p |
| 20:51.38 | Gnarfoz | not *that* much, tbh |
| 20:51.48 | Arrowmaster | i should probably upgrade the firmware on my wrt54gl so whenever my isp does have ipv6 my router will support it |
| 20:52.04 | Gnarfoz | not sure how performance is with public tunnel brokers like he.net, sixxs, etc |
| 20:52.25 | Gnarfoz | but when using my own server, I can't imagine it being that bad, it would just add handful of hops |
| 20:52.34 | Gnarfoz | good enough to try it out, at least |
| 20:53.33 | Gnarfoz | and yeah, native ipv6 coming this year to... heh, my parent's ISP. I'm on a different one since I moved out. /sadface |
| 20:54.38 | Maldivia | time to move back then? |
| 20:55.54 | Gnarfoz | that would require finding a job there :> I only moved here because I got a job here |
| 20:56.11 | Gnarfoz | (I'm 550 km away) |
| 20:56.48 | Gnarfoz | I'm going to do just that some day, anyway, not immediately necessary, though |
| 20:56.50 | Maldivia | commute? |
| 20:56.56 | Gnarfoz | commute 550 km? wtf :p |
| 20:57.00 | Maldivia | heh |
| 20:57.41 | Maldivia | it's only 12 hours of transport every day :P |
| 20:57.44 | Gnarfoz | also, the "yeah, ipv6 for customers in 2012" was just a rather short press release some time in 2010, IIRC |
| 20:58.11 | Maldivia | could always go with a tunnel broker till then |
| 20:58.37 | Gnarfoz | with my own tunnel broker! ^^ |
| 20:59.16 | Gnarfoz | as soon as I've "finished" these remaining... ~20 wikipedia tabs I'll open a new tab group to investigate how to do that ;) |
| 21:00.45 | Maldivia | tunnelbroker.net, for instance |
| 21:02.07 | Gnarfoz | eh? either you missed the beginning of this or you're ignoring it willfully ;D |
| 21:02.21 | Maldivia | probably :P |
| 21:03.26 | Maldivia | and yeah, missed a few lines it seems, looking back :P |
| 21:04.07 | Maldivia | oh well |
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| 21:12.37 | Fisker | Gnarfoz that's np |
| 21:13.05 | Stanzilla | Fisker Gnarfoz |
| 21:14.05 | Fisker | Our isp said that ipv6 was something Microsoft had invented with vista and that the internet should run just fine with it |
| 21:16.14 | Fisker | No? |
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| 21:18.54 | Fisker | :( |
| 21:24.08 | Maldivia | what did you expect from that isp though |
| 21:24.37 | zenzelezz | they heard Fisker was on their net and decided to troll him back |
| 21:25.38 | Fisker | They didn't troll me. |
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| 21:45.03 | Maldivia | anyone here use the google music store? |
| 21:45.46 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 21:45.55 | Maldivia | Dagmar: search for radiomandlen |
| 21:46.00 | Maldivia | Dagmar: select the album without art |
| 21:46.49 | Dagmar | Some Tjenesten guy? |
| 21:47.07 | Maldivia | "tjenesten på p3" is a danish radio show |
| 21:47.09 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 21:47.28 | Dagmar | So what am I supposed to be seeing here? |
| 21:47.34 | Maldivia | how many tracks are you seeing? |
| 21:47.46 | Dagmar | HOLY MOTHER OF CRAP |
| 21:47.54 | Maldivia | and the price :P |
| 21:48.13 | Dagmar | That's quite a price break |
| 21:48.39 | Dagmar | It's showing $11.49 here. |
| 21:48.48 | Maldivia | yep, and abour 1000 tracks :P |
| 21:49.05 | Dagmar | I wasn't counting them. I just grabbed the scrollbar and noticed it was _fucking TINY_ |
| 21:50.22 | Gnarfoz | "We're sorry. The Google Play music player is currently only available in the United States." fuck you, music industry |
| 21:50.40 | Dagmar | It's not unusual for the total to not be the same as buying them all individually, but jesus that's a LOT of tracks |
| 21:51.11 | Maldivia | Dagmar: think it's bugged :P |
| 21:51.24 | Dagmar | I think that's a definitely possibility |
| 21:51.32 | Maldivia | Gnarfoz: google can't figure out how to geo block ipv6 :P |
| 21:51.47 | Gnarfoz | Maldivia: heh |
| 21:52.00 | Dagmar | It's not every day you see a dozen track #3's. |
| 21:52.35 | Dagmar | I suspect someone foolish fed it several albums successively and erroneously gave them all the exact same title |
| 21:53.01 | Maldivia | yeah, it seems to be a combination of all the "tjenesten på p3" albums |
| 21:54.21 | Arrowmaster | Maldivia: geo blocking ipv6 is even easier than ipv4 |
| 21:54.53 | Dagmar | So much detail in IPv6. |
| 21:55.16 | Dagmar | Block everything with 14 in the eleventh octet and people wearing red shoes can't see your site. |
| 21:55.27 | Maldivia | Arrowmaster: well, considering I'm sitting in Denmark, and have no issue with google play, youtube etc that usualy block non-us IPs |
| 21:55.43 | Arrowmaster | they probably just arent bothering then |
| 21:57.33 | Dagmar | I would be using IPv6 but apparently Motorola doesn't plan ahead very well. |
| 21:57.40 | Dagmar | Gotta buy a new cablemodem. |
| 21:58.01 | Dagmar | It's six years old, but still... Firmware updates. |
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| 22:01.57 | Adys | Well this is awkward |
| 22:02.19 | Adys | gf watching ghost whisperers; I walk in and ask "You watching ghost busterers?" |
| 22:03.01 | Xuerian | Wishful thinking is good, sometimes. |
| 22:04.21 | Dagmar | At least on Ghost Whisperer they don't run like women. |
| 22:04.27 | Dagmar | ...even if they _are_ women. |
| 22:04.43 | Dagmar | I could never be allowed on that show. |
| 22:05.11 | Dagmar | I'm sorry but if you're *incorporeal* I'm pretty sure I'll win in a fistfight. |
| 22:05.46 | Adys | yeah see i don't get that |
| 22:05.57 | Adys | how would you fistfight something incorporeal |
| 22:06.12 | Dagmar | Largely I think you can just stand there and call it names. |
| 22:06.37 | Dagmar | ...and in the meantime, I have a lot of electronics people to call on. |
| 22:06.45 | Dagmar | I'd _find_ a way to hit a ghost if I needed one. |
| 22:06.55 | Adys | Your momma so fat, she didn't pass over cuz she couldn't fit through the door? |
| 22:07.02 | Dagmar | If I gotta put on a pair of 10 pound gauntlets covered in copper coils, so be it. |
| 22:07.06 | warranty | Code breaks at line:31 while in a party, works perfectly in a raid. I know I currently do not have a way to remove old healers from the table. http://pastebin.com/t435K2Xm |
| 22:07.16 | Adys | warranty: paste error |
| 22:07.19 | Xuerian | warranty: Until the comma, I thought that was a joke |
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| 22:08.32 | Adys | warranty: i dont see anything wrong with that code there, whats the error? |
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| 22:09.12 | warranty | There is no error, when in a party the NM_Healer table is not populated. Which is why I'm assuming it breaks. |
| 22:09.23 | Adys | right |
| 22:09.27 | Adys | warranty: does anything print? |
| 22:10.21 | warranty | In the GetHealer() function everything prints up to line 31 |
| 22:10.37 | Adys | warranty: did you try running it manually? |
| 22:10.56 | warranty | Running it manually? |
| 22:10.57 | Adys | eg /dump UnitGroupRolesAssigned("party3") |
| 22:12.52 | Maldivia | warranty: are you by any change the healer? need to check "player" as well when in a group |
| 22:13.26 | Maldivia | chance* |
| 22:13.41 | warranty | Yes, I was the healer when testing this. Let my try that. |
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| 22:20.23 | warranty | Maldivia: That was it. Tyvm!! |
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