| 00:10.00 | bleeter | anyone dual booting Win/Linux on mirrored SSDs? just wondering which distro to use, current candidates are Deb Sid and Fed 16. Any gotchas/tips appreciated. |
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| 02:00.01 | TC-Work | i think i am going to be modding the fuck out of my phone this weekend |
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| 02:04.03 | Adys | Today on reddit |
| 02:04.17 | Adys | - Why doesn't it define the eighth bit? |
| 02:04.19 | Adys | - Because 1960. |
| 02:05.43 | Dagmar | LOL |
| 02:06.04 | Dagmar | There _are_ certain advantages to working with technology and being considered "old". That's one of them, right there. |
| 02:06.19 | Adys | Dagmar: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/qpaxl/here_is_why_vim_uses_the_hjkl_keys_as_arrow_keys/c3zd7sb |
| 02:06.21 | Adys | source |
| 02:08.13 | Dagmar | I saw the article earlier from ycombinator |
| 02:08.59 | Dagmar | <--used machines before 102-keys was even an idea |
| 02:09.58 | Adys | http://www.reddit.com/r/spaceporn/comments/qosr5/carina_nebula_3999_x_1936/ |
| 02:10.25 | Adys | Original resolution: [LARGE IMAGE]://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Eta_Carinae_Nebula_1.jpg (29566×14321) |
| 02:11.20 | Dagmar | Hello new Minecraft skybox for The End |
| 02:30.21 | Dagmar | Heh. Gimp just gave me the finger. I think I might need to use ImageMagick for this |
| 02:32.58 | karl_w_w | <Adys> Original resolution: [LARGE IMAGE]://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Eta_Carinae_Nebula_1.jpg (29566×14321) <- won't load :( |
| 02:34.01 | Dagmar | Oh it will. |
| 02:34.09 | Dagmar | Your browser is just not likely to display it. |
| 02:34.25 | karl_w_w | hmm |
| 02:34.35 | karl_w_w | it's loading now i clicked the link on reddit |
| 02:34.36 | Dagmar | For some reason they don't typically expect to be handed 91 megabyte images with a resolution big enough to paint the entire Sistine Chapel with |
| 02:35.22 | karl_w_w | lol |
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| 02:35.30 | karl_w_w | i doubt it's that big |
| 02:35.41 | Dagmar | That 29566x14321 wasn't an index code. That's the res. |
| 02:35.45 | karl_w_w | unless you want billboard style pixellation |
| 02:36.20 | Dagmar | If you did that at one px per mm it would be 97 feet wide. |
| 02:36.42 | Dagmar | I think that's probably sufficient at the viewing distance from the floor. |
| 02:38.19 | Iriel | (Late to the party) Resolution of what? I question any resolution that's an odd number |
| 02:38.50 | karl_w_w | http://www.reddit.com/r/spaceporn/comments/qosr5/carina_nebula_3999_x_1936/ |
| 02:39.23 | Iriel | Oh, it's not a device resolution |
| 02:39.27 | Iriel | that makes more sense then |
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| 02:41.29 | karl_w_w | The image ... cannot be displayed because it contains errors :( |
| 02:44.40 | Arrowmaster | hmm they didnt do a d3 wipe for the new patch |
| 02:47.06 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: praise be. |
| 02:47.27 | Arrowmaster | weird since they made rings/amulets stop dropping |
| 02:49.14 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: the patch notes only says "amulets" |
| 02:49.20 | Iriel | and I'd never actually seen one anyway |
| 02:49.34 | Arrowmaster | i had a few in a previous patch |
| 02:50.05 | Iriel | Hm, /the/ previous patch (i.e. since the previous wipe), or just /a/ previous patch? |
| 02:50.18 | Arrowmaster | lol this is weird, my monk has a fist weapon equiped that i dont have a high enough level to epic now |
| 02:50.32 | Iriel | Does it let you use it? |
| 02:50.39 | Arrowmaster | i think so |
| 02:51.01 | Arrowmaster | and it was patch 12 i think that i had 2 amulets |
| 02:54.56 | karl_w_w | i dont have enough ram to open that image in paint :( |
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| 02:59.17 | karl_w_w | nope, definitely dont |
| 03:00.51 | Iriel | karl_w_w: You'd need a less braindead editor capable of handling an active subset of a larger image only |
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| 03:05.33 | Dagmar | I'm pretty sure trying to open it on my netbook with 2Gb of RAm was a mistake |
| 03:07.42 | Arrowmaster | i once saw a warning on an image smaller that than, it said not to open it with less than 8 gigs of ram or something |
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| 03:15.08 | Dagmar | Yeah I had an overhead shot of NYC at one point that was 15M in size and I thought it was pretty cruel to renderers |
| 03:15.12 | Dagmar | This thing beats it by far |
| 03:15.58 | Dagmar | wastrel: Wait, that actually makes the snow immediatley pop off? |
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| 03:57.11 | karl_w_w | are wow forums slow or something? just posted something and it hasnt appearewd |
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| 04:06.39 | foxlit | "When it gets more than 100 percent electrically-efficient, it begins to cool down, stealing energy from its environment to convert into more photons." |
| 04:07.01 | foxlit | http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-03/09/230-percent-efficient-leds |
| 04:07.34 | kd3 | sees "violating laws of thermodynamics" written all over that |
| 04:08.13 | foxlit | hm, a wild kd3. |
| 04:08.27 | kd3 | you responded to my ping with the email |
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| 04:08.52 | foxlit | fair enough, wasn't certain whether that was "read your mail" or something else :) |
| 04:12.08 | karl_w_w | so they're working out how to extract power directly out of ambient heat |
| 04:12.17 | karl_w_w | that's a step in the right direction :P |
| 04:13.11 | kd3 | now if only we had equally efficient ways of getting useful work out of light |
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| 06:27.25 | airtonix | Fisker: umad? |
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| 07:34.39 | Ackis | bluspacecow: y u no visit me in castleville? |
| 07:34.52 | bluspacecow | 'cause i busy at works :( |
| 07:35.12 | bluspacecow | also castlevilles been a little bitch lately. not loading and stuff |
| 07:36.38 | Ackis | :( |
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| 07:52.07 | bluspacecow | oh hey it loaded |
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| 08:45.59 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 08:48.28 | airtonix | so what were those youtubers that published the good 1min minecraft ideas? |
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| 08:50.28 | bluworkcow | :( ackis |
| 08:51.01 | bluworkcow | the work filters hate the castleville CDN |
| 08:51.02 | bluworkcow | they all like cats with water thriown on them |
| 08:53.47 | airtonix | bluworkcow: maybe you need to activate insert mode first |
| 08:54.08 | bluworkcow | oh rly ? |
| 08:54.24 | airtonix | must be some kind of hentai text editor |
| 09:00.42 | karl_w_w | oh airtonix you're such a kidder |
| 09:09.32 | mikma | http://www.trolino.com/meme/buying-a-dog-3688 |
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| 09:11.07 | zz250 | Hello, could anybody help me with finding a proper Event? |
| 09:11.49 | zz250 | I'm trying to make an addon to ressurect the player automatically when the Resurrection timer wears off (GetCorpseRecoveryDelay()) |
| 09:11.55 | airtonix | what kind of event? |
| 09:12.10 | airtonix | oh a wow api event |
| 09:12.18 | zz250 | Problem is, I can't figure out any events which are fired just when the timer wears off! |
| 09:12.38 | zz250 | I already made it to automatically release your spirit using the event PLAYER_DEAD |
| 09:13.09 | zz250 | Any help or directions would be really appreciated. |
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| 09:14.40 | zz250 | or also some tool which records / tracks wow Events |
| 09:15.34 | Thunder_Child | i thought there was one built in now |
| 09:16.10 | zz250 | Well, I looked up WoWwiki and found no direct event related to the moment when you are ready to ressurect yourself |
| 09:16.26 | zz250 | there is one but its ONLY when you are being ressurected by someon else |
| 09:17.26 | zz250 | 0x107 RESURRECT_REQUEST |
| 09:19.20 | Kaylin | you could always track if the frame is visible, I wonder if you could even track if it's got the button available to be clicked. |
| 09:19.31 | Kaylin | this would obv only work with the default UI but idk |
| 09:20.38 | zz250 | well if I knew how to track if the button is clickable it all would be solved :} |
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| 09:22.38 | Kaylin | *downloads ui extraction tool* |
| 09:25.47 | zz250 | hm trying with ACTIONBAR_UPDATE_STATE |
| 09:26.20 | mikma | http://www.trolino.com/meme/lemon-3564 |
| 09:30.10 | mikma | http://www.trolino.com/meme/so-true-3512 |
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| 09:48.26 | zz250 | Ah come on, no one would tell me any event fired when the "Ressurect Now" button appears?... |
| 09:51.45 | Kaylin | sorry doing dungeons at the same time, you prob want to do a combination of things with the popup and res timer, similar to what I did here (mind the crappy code) for the a gm would like to chat with you button: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/eventnotifier/files/19-event-notifier-v1-42/ |
| 09:52.20 | zz250 | I was thinking of something else, probably with Chronos |
| 09:52.33 | zz250 | player dies |
| 09:52.43 | zz250 | <-- "PLAYED_DEAD" is fired |
| 09:52.55 | Kaylin | (line 115-117) and what if the player is dead when they login or load the UI? |
| 09:52.55 | zz250 | after that a function with 30/60/120s delay is fired |
| 09:53.54 | zz250 | its eazy, i will create hard cases for that easily since i already know events triggered at reloadui/login |
| 09:55.32 | zz250 | Hm, probably PLAYTIME_CHANGED can help |
| 09:58.21 | mikma | zz250: why don't you strip your char and die couple of times in a row with eventwatch on? |
| 09:59.01 | zz250 | gonna download it right away |
| 09:59.10 | zz250 | thanks for the tip! :> |
| 09:59.38 | mikma | download? |
| 09:59.44 | mikma | there's ingame tool for that |
| 09:59.52 | zz250 | I'm all ears. |
| 09:59.53 | mikma | just /eventwatch or something |
| 10:00.30 | zz250 | its first time i hear about a feature/addon of this kind |
| 10:00.40 | mikma | well there's also /dump ingame |
| 10:00.54 | zz250 | i know about dump |
| 10:01.16 | zz250 | hm gonna try with console |
| 10:01.28 | airtonix | mikma: i once dumped in game |
| 10:01.39 | mikma | airtonix: aww |
| 10:01.49 | airtonix | wasn't very satsifying |
| 10:02.34 | mikma | you're doing it wrong, derpette |
| 10:03.04 | zz250 | i was using it only for math lol |
| 10:04.05 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 10:04.11 | airtonix | not for evil then? |
| 10:04.22 | zz250 | nah |
| 10:04.34 | zz250 | nothing evil in trying to ressurect yourself always! |
| 10:04.43 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 10:04.52 | bluworkcow | @kaylin hai2u! |
| 10:04.54 | zz250 | i wonder even how come there is no addon for this still |
| 10:04.55 | zz250 | ... |
| 10:04.58 | airtonix | sorry i was disrtacted by something interesting |
| 10:05.28 | mikma | zz250: addon for what |
| 10:05.56 | mikma | autoresurrect when timer runs out? cause people are usually present when that happens lol lol lol |
| 10:06.47 | zz250 | yes, im looking for _this_ |
| 10:07.04 | zz250 | you mean its against the tos? |
| 10:09.07 | zz250 | if it was so blizzard wouldn't provide us with RetrieveCorpse(); or it would be protected |
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| 10:12.54 | zz250 | ok, then im changing the question |
| 10:12.57 | mikma | http://www.trolino.com/meme/problem-3182 |
| 10:13.05 | zz250 | how i can make a function to execute ALWAYS |
| 10:13.11 | zz250 | spam infinitely till the end of time |
| 10:14.21 | mikma | zz250: http://wowprogramming.com/snippets/Create_a_mini-timer_using_OnUpdate_3 - replace DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("ping!") with RetrieveCorpse() |
| 10:14.48 | mikma | that event will try to execute it every 2 seconds |
| 10:15.01 | mikma | change it to 0.2 if you want to megaspam the client |
| 10:15.23 | zz250 | now thats something more like it - evil and infinite!! |
| 10:15.28 | zz250 | trying! |
| 10:16.01 | airtonix | mikma: are you a bad dreamer? |
| 10:16.33 | mikma | airtonix: no, i always dream of good stuff |
| 10:16.50 | mikma | airtonix: also, what's there to dream when i'm already perfect |
| 10:17.21 | airtonix | your face? |
| 10:17.35 | mikma | airtonix: already perfect, so no. |
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| 10:17.53 | airtonix | obviously a facade for the horrors you wish to avoid |
| 10:18.27 | mikma | stop talking about yourseld when we are trying to talk about the perfect me |
| 10:18.49 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 10:18.54 | mikma | airtonix: buy bf3 |
| 10:19.06 | airtonix | Big Food 3? |
| 10:19.15 | mikma | sure, if you wanna be fat |
| 10:19.37 | mikma | for you it might also be Bad Face 3 |
| 10:19.54 | mikma | ok ok, </fisker> |
| 10:28.30 | bluworkcow | bbl |
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| 10:30.08 | mikma | bluworkcow: no don't go, don't leave me here with these wolves! |
| 10:31.55 | zz250 | dafuq, used the appled you gave me, replaced and still nothing prints out |
| 10:32.19 | zz250 | i make a new addon, paste the snippet inside the .lua and thats it, right? |
| 10:34.38 | zz250 | i guess this does nto print it to the default chat window... |
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| 10:37.53 | zz250 | mikma, btw im using 1.12 client ^^ |
| 10:38.30 | nevcairiel | then i suggest you leave, we do not condone any use of private servers here |
| 10:39.17 | zz250 | no one talks to you CIA undercover #4123715912321 |
| 10:39.30 | zz250 | please go apply acta somewhere else |
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| 10:48.34 | nevcairiel | its not my opinion, but the channels policy, but if you continue, i'm sure you'll find that out by yourself |
| 10:48.36 | nevcairiel | so go on! |
| 10:49.14 | zz250 | are you working in the congress |
| 10:49.24 | zz250 | please dont sue me, oh i beg you |
| 10:49.56 | zz250 | you know, probably the one type of people i most hate are people like you defending closed source code and corporations |
| 10:50.07 | zz250 | do me a favour and shut up, no one has even mentioned you |
| 10:50.15 | zz250 | if anything happens to me its my business and fault |
| 10:51.30 | zz250 | i am here for writing lua code everything else is a matter of how do you use your code |
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| 11:06.49 | mikma | yeah no help from me from this point on, i don't support private servers |
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| 11:07.31 | zz250 | following your logic entire vanilla wow development was for private servers |
| 11:07.38 | zz250 | some genuises you are here |
| 11:08.09 | mikma | current blizzard servers are not at 1.12 version eventho player would have vanilla |
| 11:09.06 | zz250 | all i have is the client; thought they you think really disappointed me |
| 11:09.11 | zz250 | the way* |
| 11:10.20 | zz250 | but whats more sad is that actually some private servers right now are better from retail, like arena tournament |
| 11:10.54 | zz250 | but hey, you prefer to pay for a balanced cataclysm and pandas and defend it, no worries, it your opinion, i dont question it |
| 11:11.25 | zz250 | but nice other snippets you have mikma :) |
| 11:19.16 | airtonix | you sound mad |
| 11:20.03 | zz250 | more like you sound mad for starting to type without no one mentioning you i guess eh |
| 11:20.15 | zz250 | offended? |
| 11:20.16 | karl_w_w | you sound really mad |
| 11:20.17 | airtonix | sorry i only understand english |
| 11:20.37 | zz250 | too bad i hoped you understood some lua too |
| 11:20.42 | airtonix | so were you saying that you were mad? |
| 11:21.02 | zz250 | amateur troll is amateur |
| 11:21.25 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 11:21.40 | karl_w_w | airtonix why is this person here? |
| 11:21.57 | airtonix | why are you here? |
| 11:22.10 | karl_w_w | me? I'm your groupie |
| 11:22.13 | airtonix | suddenly... internet! |
| 11:22.26 | zz250 | LOL why would _anyone_ care where i am at internet |
| 11:22.36 | zz250 | thought it's nice of you ^^ |
| 11:22.45 | airtonix | umad? |
| 11:23.07 | zz250 | !mad |
| 11:29.26 | Kaylin | echo mad |
| 11:29.33 | Kaylin | nope doesn't seem so |
| 11:32.20 | zenzelezz | gah, I really hate "web installers". Download 750kb, start the install, then wait for it to download 50+ MB at a ridiculously slow speed |
| 11:46.21 | starlon | I love Yann Tiersen! omg |
| 11:48.12 | mikma | fisker: who let your brother in irc? |
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| 12:00.31 | starlon | damn stray cat's under the house wanting some loving. |
| 12:01.10 | starlon | or food |
| 12:01.21 | starlon | some loving nourishment |
| 12:12.11 | starlon | slaps Java with a fresh trout. |
| 12:19.34 | rtharper | mikma: Did you know the fairy from Helsinki to Stockholm is 16 effing hours? |
| 12:19.36 | rtharper | ferry* |
| 12:22.51 | Zasurus | has an image of rtharper being dragged though the water for 16 hours by Tinkabell asking all the way "Are we there yet"... 8-) |
| 12:23.02 | rtharper | hahahaha |
| 12:23.17 | rtharper | travels by fairy all the time. It's what happens when jnwhiteh is driving. |
| 12:23.29 | rtharper | not that we ever drive |
| 12:24.57 | karl_w_w | starlon: you named a stray cat Java? |
| 12:31.11 | starlon | And slapped it with a fresh trout. |
| 12:37.41 | mikma | rtharper: well yeah, it can be |
| 12:37.51 | mikma | rtharper: there should be express ferries |
| 12:39.24 | rtharper | meh even so, it's overnight |
| 12:39.33 | rtharper | and seems pretty cheap |
| 12:39.57 | mikma | it's like 15e :D |
| 12:42.04 | rtharper | lol alo they have saunas (natch) |
| 12:43.56 | mikma | rtharper: reminder, there's also Turku-Stockholm |
| 12:44.36 | rtharper | indeee |
| 12:44.37 | rtharper | d |
| 12:44.41 | rtharper | which is much shorter, it seems =) |
| 12:44.56 | rtharper | (also, don't you mean Åbo? =p) |
| 12:44.59 | mikma | also there's two, possibly 3 ferrielines |
| 12:45.06 | mikma | åbo, ja |
| 12:46.27 | mikma | rtharper: http://www.vikingline.fi/ , http://www.tallinksilja.com/ |
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| 12:46.34 | mikma | rtharper: apparently only two |
| 12:47.55 | mikma | i was thinking about Eckerö Lines but apparently it's helsinki-tallinn-helsinki |
| 12:47.57 | karl_w_w | you know there's these new inventions called airplanes that travel across the sky |
| 12:48.02 | karl_w_w | like a bird with people inside |
| 12:48.07 | rtharper | haha |
| 12:48.17 | rtharper | you can get pretty cheap ferries, though |
| 12:48.19 | rtharper | and thhey're more comfortable |
| 12:48.27 | karl_w_w | time is money :P |
| 12:52.17 | rtharper | yes but it can be enjoyable time =p |
| 12:52.25 | rtharper | you can leave the night before, sleep on the journey |
| 12:52.27 | rtharper | and there you are |
| 12:52.49 | airtonix | umad? |
| 12:53.18 | rtharper | should I be? |
| 12:54.17 | airtonix | i'd be pretty pissed if some insect dragged me through the water for 16 hours |
| 12:54.43 | rtharper | lolz |
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| 13:03.22 | bluspacecow | @Cairenn|afk https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/427685_10150628827769219_500429218_9357599_517119098_n.jpg |
| 13:05.21 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgYuLsudaJQ |
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| 13:07.04 | airtonix | no bluspacecow |
| 13:07.12 | bluspacecow | :| |
| 13:07.15 | bluspacecow | y not? |
| 13:07.26 | airtonix | not enough duckface |
| 13:07.31 | bluspacecow | :| |
| 13:07.40 | airtonix | :> |
| 13:08.11 | starlon | slaps airtonix with a fresh duck. |
| 13:08.18 | airtonix | ಠ_ರೃ |
| 13:10.30 | bluspacecow | ~whaleshield airtonix |
| 13:19.20 | starlon | slaps bluspacecow with a fresh bunny. http://media-cdn.pinterest.com/upload/66709638200438945_Rkn0qn6U_f.jpg |
| 13:19.34 | bluspacecow | that no bunny funny |
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| 13:27.02 | airtonix | you raff you roose |
| 13:31.30 | bluspacecow | raff raff raff raff |
| 13:38.37 | airtonix | guess who this is |
| 13:38.40 | airtonix | http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjE1Mzg5NDI0OV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNzUwMzg2._V1._SX450_SY675_.jpg |
| 13:40.16 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
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| 13:40.31 | bluspacecow | *sleeps on fisker* |
| 13:40.37 | airtonix | you can't because bluspacecow roost |
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| 13:41.37 | bluspacecow | airtonix: y u haet? |
| 13:46.05 | mikma | airtonix: vin diesel |
| 13:51.26 | bluspacecow | i go sleep now |
| 14:08.30 | karl_w_w | :-<> quack quack |
| 14:12.33 | Sintacks | moo |
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| 14:28.40 | starlon | doesn't get Pinterest. |
| 14:28.58 | starlon | Looks like someone scattered imgur.com all over my screen. |
| 14:37.00 | wereHamster | is there a channel dedicated to mesa? |
| 14:38.09 | wereHamster | ah, this isn't the right channel to ask that question |
| 14:39.07 | cbreak | maybe ##opengl can help |
| 14:39.18 | cbreak | but last time I was there it struck me as the most unfriendly channel on this network |
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| 14:40.58 | Fisker | hey wereHamster |
| 14:41.00 | Fisker | however not hey jnwhiteh |
| 14:41.09 | jnwhiteh | not however hey Fisker |
| 14:41.20 | Fisker | clique is being a jerk jnwhiteh |
| 14:41.28 | Fisker | after some time it forgets itself |
| 14:42.18 | Fisker | so why would you do that jnwhiteh ? |
| 14:46.50 | Fisker | i hope clique isn't so forgetful in the future jnwhiteh |
| 14:47.00 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 14:48.09 | Fisker | u haet |
| 14:48.12 | Fisker | i hate haet |
| 14:55.53 | karl_w_w | is there a channel dedicated to black mesa? |
| 14:56.20 | Cide | #ApertureScience |
| 15:09.19 | zenzelezz | hrm... I could swear VC++ would use //-comments when you did Ctrl+K,Ctrl+C, but it only seems to do it for single lines, when you have no selection... any selection and it goes back to /* */. Don't suppose anyone knows a way to change it? (Without addons/plugins) |
| 15:10.50 | cbreak | what's wrong with /*? :) |
| 15:11.20 | zenzelezz | on a general level I dislike them, but when testing stuff I end up double-commenting sections sometimes |
| 15:12.00 | cbreak | my windows using coworkers use something called "Visual Assist X" |
| 15:12.34 | cbreak | xcode can already do commenting of large sections of code but that's likely not an option for you |
| 15:12.38 | zenzelezz | that would fall under the "without plugins" category :-) |
| 15:12.44 | cbreak | yeah |
| 15:12.57 | zenzelezz | hehe, yeah, don't use XCode except at work for iOS stuff |
| 15:12.59 | cbreak | isn't there a toolbar icon in visual studio to change comment level? |
| 15:13.14 | cbreak | somewhere to the right |
| 15:15.19 | zenzelezz | checking now; only found indent level so far (and buttons for the shortcuts) |
| 15:16.02 | zenzelezz | good thing they only have 3000 toolbars |
| 15:16.46 | foxlit | <3 OS X's "search all menu items" box |
| 15:16.58 | zenzelezz | I'd have to agree on that one |
| 15:20.28 | zenzelezz | well there we go... apparently you need to have the full lines, including leading whitespace on all lines for it to use // |
| 15:20.49 | zenzelezz | at least the comments are still placed at the first non-whitespace location |
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| 15:34.14 | Zasurus | I have a window that I want to start in a specific place each time but the user can then move. When creating the window I run a frame:ClearAllPoints(); and then a frame:SetPoint("TOP", UIParent, "TOP", 0, -50); but if I run that stright after creating the frame in the initialiation of the addon the frame stays where it was before the reloadui... any idea why this is? If I then re run the... |
| 15:34.16 | Zasurus | ...Clear and setpoint code a few seconds later it moves it! |
| 15:39.31 | foxlit | the anchor points of user-positioned frames are automatically saved and restored by the client. |
| 15:40.42 | Zasurus | foxlit: Thought so any way of stopping it restoring it AFTER i set it? OR is there a way to tell when it has moved it? |
| 15:42.26 | foxlit | If you don't want that behavior, add frame:SetUserPlaced(false) to whatever handles your drag-end events. |
| 15:42.49 | cbreak | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Frame_SetUserPlaced |
| 15:43.22 | foxlit | alternatively, the points are applied at some point during the loading process; try running your anchor initialization at PLAYER_LOGIN. |
| 15:43.24 | cbreak | seems you can also just not give your frame a name |
| 15:43.24 | Zasurus | fotlit: Arr didn't know about that! Thanks! Thats perfect. |
| 15:43.40 | cbreak | so think about it: do you need to give it a name? |
| 15:43.42 | cbreak | if not, just don't |
| 15:43.44 | Zasurus | Oh that might be better as I don't need a neame |
| 15:44.26 | Zasurus | I store the frame anyway so don't need a name. Will try that |
| 15:55.47 | pompy | cbreak: use wowpedia not wowwiki |
| 15:56.07 | cbreak | old habits die hard. |
| 15:56.21 | Zasurus | cbreak, foxlit: Thanks. Removing the names worked perfectly. I can control it but no wow messing with it! |
| 15:56.25 | cbreak | has barely touched the WoW api in the last three years |
| 15:57.20 | Zasurus | I do try not to touch it... but... it's a hard habit to kick! Not really PLAYED in a long time just make addons now |
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| 16:14.21 | Sintacks | if a "local local = something" is set inside a function, does it's value get cleared at the end of the function? |
| 16:14.46 | alestane | The name is lost entirely when the local goes out of scope. |
| 16:15.26 | alestane | When the Lua interpreter gets to the "local name" line, it creates an entirely new variable that only exists until the end of the block. |
| 16:16.09 | A-KO | you should use local scope almost all of the time unless you have a specific need to create something outside of that scope IMO. |
| 16:16.31 | Sintacks | that's where i was going. needed to store time |
| 16:32.49 | Sintacks | is there a simple way to set multiple variables to the same vaule? i.e., time9) |
| 16:32.56 | Sintacks | s/9/(/ |
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| 16:43.41 | Cide | www.lua.org/pil |
| 16:44.05 | Cide | you have been talking about basic lua stuff for weeks in here and you don't know how to do the most basic things in lua |
| 16:44.11 | Sintacks | i dun't learn from mindless reading |
| 16:44.21 | Cide | it's not mindless. |
| 16:44.29 | Cide | make it interactive by testing stuff out |
| 16:44.41 | Sintacks | i could read the whole thing and remember .5% of it |
| 16:44.57 | Cide | and you can read our answers and remember those? |
| 16:45.00 | alestane | Usually, if you need the same value in multiple places, it gets passed around through function calls or a single shared variable |
| 16:45.25 | Cide | if you need /help/, that is fine. |
| 16:45.39 | Cide | but we're not here to teach you how to program lua |
| 16:46.10 | alestane | That's the most on-topic thing that's happened in here in weeks, I dunno. |
| 16:46.20 | Sintacks | haha ^ |
| 16:46.43 | Cide | probably, but that's a testament to how much off topic stuff is going on rather than how on topic this is |
| 16:47.02 | Cide | Sintacks' questions have nothing to do with wow ui development at all |
| 16:47.07 | Cide | the only similarity is using lua |
| 16:47.21 | Cide | (05:14:24 PM) Sintacks: if a "local local = something" is set inside a function, does it's value get cleared at the end of the function? |
| 16:47.36 | Cide | http://www.lua.org/pil/4.2.html |
| 16:47.40 | alestane | That said, I know from experience that there are a myriad of approaches to learning. |
| 16:47.53 | Cide | Unlike global variables, local variables have their scope limited to the block where they are declared. |
| 16:47.57 | Cide | fourth line. |
| 16:48.15 | alestane | Which requires understanding what is meant by "scope" or it means nothing. |
| 16:48.28 | Sintacks | already been on 4.2.html for a minute and a half and learned one thing: the difference between a global and a local var |
| 16:48.28 | Dagmar | Also, it works that way in _many_ languages, with the same keyword. |
| 16:48.49 | alestane | Sounds like progress, Sintacks. |
| 16:48.51 | Sintacks | the only other language i know is mSL and it's not even a real language |
| 16:49.38 | Sintacks | and by what i am "reading" the answer is no. |
| 16:49.50 | Cide | answer to what |
| 16:50.01 | Sintacks | local a, b = 1, 10 -- i would have to use local a, b, c = time(), time(), time() |
| 16:50.31 | Cide | yes. |
| 16:50.51 | Cide | now we've backtracked to http://www.lua.org/pil/4.1.html |
| 16:51.03 | Cide | When the list of values is shorter than the list of variables, the extra variables receivenil as their values; when the list of values is longer, the extra values are silently discarded: |
| 16:51.27 | Sintacks | silently meaning without error |
| 16:51.55 | Dagmar | Also called "overloading" |
| 16:53.33 | alestane | It's worth asking yourself WHY you want multiple copies of the same value. |
| 16:53.53 | Sintacks | being used by three different things that could happen at three different times |
| 17:00.33 | Shirik | happy birthday cide |
| 17:00.41 | Cide | it was yesterday |
| 17:00.43 | Cide | but thanks! |
| 17:00.47 | Shirik | I put it up yesterday |
| 17:00.52 | Shirik | but you were all like "nah sleep time" |
| 17:01.04 | Cide | oh, didn't see topic |
| 17:01.35 | Cide | you rocked my dream |
| 17:05.19 | Shirik | also I'm installing SC2 |
| 17:05.26 | Cide | why not bf3 |
| 17:06.20 | Sintacks | kind of wish i had BF3 for PC |
| 17:06.43 | Corrodias | nah, you'd need to be using Origin |
| 17:06.51 | Sintacks | heh. true |
| 17:07.12 | Cide | origin isn't bad |
| 17:07.16 | Cide | and bf3 is 10x better on pc |
| 17:07.35 | Sintacks | heh. at least i didn't completely recode it today, like someone said i would.. but i did do what someone else said and came up with something else for it... i hope this isn't a neverending cycle |
| 17:07.38 | Corrodias | ah, that's the first time i've seen someone say origin isn't bad. congratulations. |
| 17:07.48 | Cide | you're dealing with ignorant idiots then |
| 17:08.08 | Corrodias | it's easier to assume you're mistaken |
| 17:08.27 | Cide | I have pretty high standards |
| 17:08.42 | Cide | it's worse than steam and I prefer to have my games in only one digital library, but /shrug |
| 17:08.51 | Cide | definitely worth having origin if it means I get to play bf3 |
| 17:09.37 | Cide | EA is shit and EA's customer service is shit, naturally, but there's nothing terribly wrong with origin |
| 17:09.44 | Cide | download speeds are better or on par with steam, even |
| 17:11.02 | Fisker | don't be so negative Cide |
| 17:11.09 | Cide | my bad, Fisker |
| 17:11.16 | Cide | origin A+++++++ WOULD USE AGAIN |
| 17:11.25 | Fisker | good |
| 17:11.30 | Sintacks | i'm too tired to goole and fail at finding results: how do you find out how much memory an addon is currently using |
| 17:11.40 | Cide | seriously? |
| 17:11.52 | Cide | how many people do you think have that api function memorized |
| 17:12.02 | Fisker | i don't like Origin |
| 17:12.03 | Cide | most everybody would have to do the exact same thing you're "too tired" of doing |
| 17:12.04 | Sintacks | 3 |
| 17:12.04 | Fisker | their overlay is shit |
| 17:12.08 | Fisker | but the rest is fine |
| 17:12.15 | alestane | Sintacks, that is something there's a fairly dedicated resource for: |
| 17:12.17 | Cide | get your lazy ass on to wowprogramming.com or wowpedia.org |
| 17:12.21 | alestane | wowprogramming.com |
| 17:12.27 | alestane | !api memory |
| 17:12.27 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'memory': UpdateAddOnMemoryUsage, GetAddOnMemoryUsage |
| 17:12.28 | Sintacks | that may be true, but they would at least know where/how to look. |
| 17:12.36 | Cide | and you do too. |
| 17:12.54 | Cide | you've browsed wowpedia and been directed to wowprogramming before |
| 17:13.32 | Shirik | I feel this is an appropriate time to link to http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 17:14.39 | Cide | indeed |
| 17:14.52 | Cide | I mean going to the wowprogramming reference and ctrl+f for "memory" |
| 17:15.03 | Cide | first result is GetAddOnMemoryUsage - Returns the amount of memory used by an addon |
| 17:15.38 | Cide | it's also the 7th result on google for "addon memory usage wow" for me |
| 17:15.46 | Cide | your google skills must be staggeringly awful |
| 17:16.22 | Cide | Shirik: why not bf3?! |
| 17:16.30 | Shirik | i not have |
| 17:16.34 | Cide | call your father? |
| 17:16.50 | Shirik | I actually need to go to work today |
| 17:16.52 | Cide | darth vader or otherwise |
| 17:17.02 | Shirik | I'm installing SC2 because I was trying to last night |
| 17:17.22 | Cide | to call your father? |
| 17:17.39 | Cide | why were you trying to install SC2 last night anyway |
| 17:17.46 | Shirik | to play with a friend |
| 17:17.56 | Cide | oh nice |
| 17:18.05 | Cide | so when a friend wants to play SC2 you get to it the next day |
| 17:18.09 | Shirik | woah |
| 17:18.11 | Shirik | they have an EPM now? |
| 17:18.17 | Cide | when some other person wants to play BF3 it takes months upon months! |
| 17:18.20 | Shirik | Cide: SC2 was readily accessible |
| 17:18.25 | Shirik | And I still didn't get to play it |
| 17:18.39 | Cide | bf3 is just a phone call away |
| 17:19.18 | Sintacks | ... fucking O in AddOns looks like an o in whatever font that is |
| 17:20.35 | Cide | http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/36j7om/ |
| 17:21.43 | Shirik | wat |
| 17:21.47 | Shirik | visual assist > all? |
| 17:21.49 | Sintacks | stabs Cide in the eye with a book |
| 17:22.29 | Cide | you have the wow api imported in VS, Shirik? |
| 17:22.36 | Cide | I assume that's a VS feature |
| 17:22.41 | Shirik | WHAT |
| 17:22.42 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt be surprised |
| 17:22.45 | Shirik | They reduced the EMP range? |
| 17:22.51 | Fisker | no Shirik |
| 17:22.59 | Fisker | they reduced your perception of range |
| 17:23.02 | Cide | nevcairiel: me neither |
| 17:24.37 | Shirik | that's actually a really good idea |
| 17:24.51 | Cide | can you finish RaidReplay for me then |
| 17:25.16 | Shirik | but then splint wouldn't be able to argue with you about where he was when he died |
| 17:25.26 | Cide | EXACTLY |
| 17:25.38 | Cide | and it must support hover links |
| 17:25.50 | Cide | so I can like link him an encounter and a time |
| 17:25.56 | Cide | and he could just click it and be like "... o" |
| 17:26.05 | Shirik | you can't do that without causing taint |
| 17:26.13 | Shirik | but it's a minor thing |
| 17:26.15 | Cide | can't do custom chat links anymore? |
| 17:26.19 | Shirik | you always could |
| 17:26.24 | Shirik | but it causes taint somewhere, I forget |
| 17:26.27 | Cide | without causing taint* |
| 17:26.32 | nevcairiel | minor taint is unavoidable =p |
| 17:26.33 | Shirik | I encountered it in Conspiracy |
| 17:26.44 | Cide | that is more or less the greatest feature |
| 17:26.48 | Shirik | it does something weird, I forget what it is exactly |
| 17:27.02 | Cide | sadly blizzard made it difficult to analyze several things this tier |
| 17:27.25 | Cide | heroic will prevents you from receiving combat log messages and doesn't always get buff gains/fades of heroic will |
| 17:27.26 | foxlit | "Shirik: you can't do that without causing taint" << what? |
| 17:27.36 | Cide | gunship/spine don't expose map positions |
| 17:28.09 | Shirik | it's hardly noticable, foxlit, but it's there, and it only causes a problem with one action that nobody ever uses. I just forget what it is but it's in a comment somewhere I have to find |
| 17:29.31 | foxlit | Shirik: I'm not sure what exactly you are referring to -- not the mechanism of causing taint, but what you actually want to accomplish, functionality-wise. |
| 17:29.39 | Cide | scroll up, nub |
| 17:29.55 | Cide | (06:25:40 PM) Cide: and it must support hover links (06:25:52 PM) Cide: so I can like link him an encounter and a time (06:26:08 PM) Shirik: you can't do that without causing taint |
| 17:29.57 | Shirik | creating a link in chat that does something custom (like pop up a window) |
| 17:30.01 | Cide | unless you joined between those |
| 17:30.11 | Cide | I don't display joins/parts |
| 17:30.20 | foxlit | Er, you *can* create links without causing taint? |
| 17:30.30 | Shirik | I'll find the comment and prove it to you |
| 17:30.37 | Cide | oh it's on |
| 17:30.41 | Shirik | I spent a lot of time on this one :P |
| 17:30.50 | Cide | it's also probably 4 years outdated |
| 17:31.04 | Cide | fixed sometime in the beginning of wrath |
| 17:31.09 | foxlit | Were you thinking of hooking SetItemRef? |
| 17:31.14 | Jamash | guys I finally made my turbo charged flying machine |
| 17:31.27 | Shirik | I wrote the code too long ago to know what it is |
| 17:31.49 | Cide | guys I just made a fish feast |
| 17:32.07 | foxlit | mm, sushi! |
| 17:32.17 | Jamash | now I can turn xp gain back on |
| 17:32.53 | Jamash | I am so glad they put in the +5 tradeskill gain quests in the darkmoon faire |
| 17:33.08 | Cide | why would you disable xp gain? |
| 17:33.24 | Jamash | because I didn't want to get past 70 until I got my turbo flying machine |
| 17:33.29 | Cide | why |
| 17:33.37 | Jamash | because I'd never get it otherwise |
| 17:33.57 | Cide | why not? |
| 17:34.21 | Shirik | because you can't beg for gold at 85 |
| 17:34.27 | Jamash | I'd be too high level to care about outland |
| 17:34.33 | Cide | lol |
| 17:34.53 | Shirik | what if you could store XP |
| 17:34.55 | Jamash | gold is not an issue |
| 17:35.04 | Shirik | when you turn off xp gain, you gain XP but you don't level up |
| 17:35.09 | Shirik | and then when you turn it on, boom you're 85 |
| 17:35.25 | Jamash | that would be silly |
| 17:35.37 | Shirik | might actually give me a reason to make an alt |
| 17:36.04 | Jamash | I'm not sure I'm ready for northrend again yet though |
| 17:36.11 | Cide | it's not bad now |
| 17:36.16 | Cide | especially if you have heirlooms |
| 17:36.40 | foxlit | hey nerfed northrend |
| 17:36.44 | Cide | I went to storm peaks at 77 |
| 17:36.55 | Cide | was 80 before I was done with 1/3 of it |
| 17:37.12 | Cide | before I got friendly with sons of hodir even |
| 17:38.16 | Jamash | I'll have to turn xp off at 80 again until I get my motorcycle |
| 17:40.14 | Jamash | oh man they nerfed durn hardcore |
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| 17:46.11 | Fisker | who even levels characters anymore? |
| 17:46.14 | Fisker | i just get level 80's |
| 17:53.38 | Cide | I hear all the cool kids do that nowadays |
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| 18:05.43 | Shirik | the sheer number of things apple screws up in their windows software is astounding |
| 18:05.48 | Shirik | it's almost like they do it intentionally |
| 18:11.00 | Shirik | hold up hold up |
| 18:11.05 | Shirik | the EU's anthem is Ode to Joy? |
| 18:12.06 | Cide | how am I supposed to know |
| 18:12.08 | Cide | I don't live in EU |
| 18:12.18 | Shirik | well according to wikipedia it is |
| 18:12.21 | Shirik | and that seems extremely lazy |
| 18:12.33 | Cide | Shirik: which foo_cast should I use to check if a void* is a Bar*? |
| 18:12.35 | Shirik | no wonder they're all defaulting |
| 18:12.41 | Cide | reinterpret? static? derived? |
| 18:12.48 | Shirik | it's impossible to check |
| 18:12.49 | Cide | err dynamic, not derived |
| 18:12.56 | Cide | zz |
| 18:13.03 | Shirik | once you've gone to void* you've lost RTTI |
| 18:13.10 | Cide | I blame C |
| 18:13.26 | Shirik | the only way to restore RTTI is to go back to the exact class it came from |
| 18:13.32 | Shirik | which kinda defeats the point |
| 18:13.34 | Cide | can I at least check if it can construct a full object given the pointer? |
| 18:13.40 | Cide | or am I screwed |
| 18:13.41 | Shirik | yes |
| 18:14.08 | Cide | reinterpret? |
| 18:14.25 | Shirik | static_cast, but it won't check anything |
| 18:14.31 | Shirik | it will just assume you know what you're doing |
| 18:20.22 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 18:25.11 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 18:25.41 | Fisker | hey |
| 18:28.05 | ccox | RIP Jean Giraud aka Moebius |
| 18:29.14 | Shirik | what |
| 18:29.36 | Shirik | oh, different moebius |
| 18:30.01 | Fisker | why ccox ? |
| 18:30.16 | ccox | because he was a great artist, and he died |
| 18:31.29 | Fisker | i can disagree |
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| 19:23.41 | cogwheel | *sighs at d3 ui* |
| 19:23.59 | mikma | wut? |
| 19:24.07 | cogwheel | can't set bindings the way i want |
| 19:24.20 | cogwheel | among many other little annoyances that add up |
| 19:26.03 | mikma | oh stop whining, you are in beta |
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| 19:37.29 | Fisker | damn Stanzilla |
| 19:37.37 | Fisker | how so cogwheel ? |
| 19:38.44 | cogwheel | skill/rune selection is cumbersome |
| 19:48.16 | Fisker | has nothing to do with keybindings :O |
| 19:48.21 | Fisker | also are you using elective mode? |
| 19:48.30 | cogwheel | yes |
| 19:48.33 | Maldivia | the first few times, it can be, but the drag'n'drop in latest patch helped a lot |
| 19:48.34 | Fisker | should be fixed now with the dragging of skills and such |
| 19:48.48 | cogwheel | oh the bindings... |
| 19:48.54 | cogwheel | can't change mouse buttons to anything else |
| 19:48.58 | cogwheel | (left & right) |
| 19:49.30 | Maldivia | btw - are gameplay options saved serverside? |
| 19:49.31 | cogwheel | i want my left button just to move |
| 19:49.40 | cogwheel | yes |
| 19:49.55 | cogwheel | there are bugs with that though |
| 19:49.58 | Maldivia | cogwheel: that's not the diablo way - you can set a modifier to move though |
| 19:50.12 | Maldivia | well, my settings are saving fine now, wasn't in the previous patch |
| 19:50.27 | Arrowmaster | mine get reset everytime i start the game |
| 19:51.04 | Maldivia | cogwheel: personally, I've bound move to one of the thumb buttons |
| 19:51.11 | Fisker | i'm sick |
| 19:56.41 | Stanzilla | sup Fisker |
| 19:57.34 | foxlit | meh, the mandatory snake walks very-very-slowly section :/ |
| 19:58.17 | Fisker | wtf Stanzilla |
| 19:58.32 | Fisker | we're doing spine |
| 19:58.49 | Fisker | and on the second attempt on the tendron |
| 19:58.53 | Fisker | it had changed places |
| 19:58.55 | Fisker | and gotten full hp |
| 19:58.57 | Stanzilla | that fight is second place on the most boring fight ever created |
| 19:58.58 | Fisker | O_o |
| 19:58.59 | Cide | you're bad |
| 19:59.02 | Cide | and you should feel bad |
| 19:59.03 | Stanzilla | you're bad |
| 19:59.05 | Cide | there are two tendons |
| 19:59.05 | Stanzilla | haha |
| 19:59.06 | Fisker | fuck you Cide |
| 19:59.08 | Stanzilla | opened up the wrong side |
| 19:59.21 | Cide | protip |
| 19:59.26 | Cide | blow up the amalgamation on the same side all the time |
| 19:59.27 | Fisker | your mom is a wrong side Stanzilla |
| 19:59.33 | Stanzilla | nope! |
| 19:59.52 | Fisker | yeah our algamation tank is fucking terrible |
| 19:59.58 | Fisker | either he sits at 50% with 9 stacks "lulz" |
| 20:00.13 | Fisker | or waits until 5% and goes "oh right, them residues" and it dies in the middle |
| 20:01.02 | Gnarfoz | terribru fiskerdin |
| 20:01.09 | Cide | 5% is too high to do residues |
| 20:01.11 | Cide | well, about right really |
| 20:01.14 | Cide | we do it at 600k |
| 20:01.44 | Cide | can't really afford to have more than 2 ticks of the aoe on the last tendon |
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| 20:14.48 | Shirik | we can if we stop waiting 5 years to put spirit link down |
| 20:15.22 | foxlit | and the ending-tron-3000 makes its appearance. |
| 20:18.51 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: do you know if wikipedia was using more than just godaddy's domain registration services? taking until now to move away from godaddy seems like a very long time to just switch registars |
| 20:19.05 | Shirik | no idea |
| 20:20.03 | Fisker | mad? |
| 20:21.53 | Fisker | your level of mad is astounding Shirik |
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| 20:35.42 | Cide | Shirik: should maybe use FR+SL on last tendon? |
| 20:35.48 | Cide | instead of using FR on second to last |
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| 20:35.58 | Cide | or whenever we use it |
| 20:37.56 | Adys | lol, some mis-post in the youtube api blog |
| 20:37.57 | Adys | from YouTube API Blog by Shannon -jj Behrens |
| 20:37.57 | Adys | I think we're going to look back on this PyCon and remember it as the year that PyPy took over the world. |
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| 20:41.54 | Cide | Shirik: fix my segfault |
| 20:45.06 | Shirik | Cide: void noop(int) { }; std::signal(SIGSEGV, noop); |
| 20:45.28 | Cide | I compile with gcc and it works fine |
| 20:45.45 | Cide | I compile with clang and I get a segfault -_- |
| 20:46.09 | Shirik | ^ |
| 20:46.23 | Shirik | also perhaps you are using too much stack space |
| 20:47.07 | Cide | doubt it |
| 20:47.26 | Cide | it's in luabind |
| 20:51.44 | Shirik | (12:30:22) (+UnBlockBot) [[user:Boing! said Zebedee]] reviewed and declined to unblock [[user talk:Wiggggaaawommmaaaa]]: Technical decline - not an unblock request -- |
| 20:51.51 | Shirik | That must be one of the strangest things I've seen from that bot |
| 20:51.51 | Fisker | entire raid just sploded Stanzilla |
| 20:52.14 | Stanzilla | dispel fail? |
| 20:52.24 | Fisker | not |
| 20:52.25 | Fisker | nope |
| 20:52.36 | Fisker | he took 9 stacks at like 90% D: |
| 20:53.57 | Fisker | doing well though |
| 20:54.03 | Fisker | killing shit in only 2 phases and stuff |
| 20:54.29 | Stanzilla | now imagine the fight without the nerfs and feel my pain |
| 20:54.35 | Fisker | :) |
| 20:56.00 | Fisker | wait |
| 20:56.07 | Fisker | so you keep bloods alive after you killed 9? |
| 20:56.29 | Stanzilla | depends, which tendon? |
| 20:56.38 | Fisker | just generally |
| 20:56.55 | Stanzilla | well since the nerfs we just kill it all the time |
| 20:56.55 | Cide | kill as many as you can until third tendon |
| 20:57.12 | Stanzilla | I' captain rend and dotting them all up |
| 20:57.15 | Shirik | and then let the healers cry |
| 20:57.21 | Cide | shirik is so shit |
| 20:57.26 | Cide | he didn't heal the tank for 4 seconds |
| 20:57.26 | Stanzilla | true story |
| 20:57.26 | Shirik | and then yell at them because there was 2 seconds where weakened soul wasn't up |
| 20:57.28 | Cide | and blamed latency |
| 20:57.31 | Shirik | no |
| 20:57.33 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 20:57.38 | Cide | yes |
| 20:57.43 | Shirik | that's not what I said |
| 20:57.50 | Shirik | what I said was I have a 2 second cast time |
| 20:57.53 | Cide | not to mention the time his mouse batteries died |
| 20:57.59 | Shirik | and I'm not a robot with 0s reaction time |
| 20:58.02 | Shirik | and 0 latency |
| 20:58.12 | Cide | there is no latency involved if you're chain casting |
| 20:58.18 | Stanzilla | I once scrolled my mouse beyond the edge of my table |
| 20:58.21 | Shirik | In which case I'm not putting PW:S up huh |
| 20:58.26 | Stanzilla | that was on yoggsaron alone |
| 20:58.28 | Cide | besides |
| 20:58.29 | Stanzilla | in phase 2 |
| 20:58.42 | Stanzilla | and I stood there, staring into the beam |
| 20:58.42 | Cide | at that point you should just be chain casting! |
| 20:58.52 | Shirik | if I were chain casting then there would be no shields |
| 20:59.03 | Cide | chain casting heals |
| 20:59.07 | Shirik | if I were chain casting then there would be no shields |
| 20:59.19 | Cide | CHAIN CASTING THINGS THAT PREVENT TANKS FROM DYING |
| 20:59.24 | Cide | how is that for bulletproof |
| 20:59.39 | Shirik | you can't chain cast an instant |
| 20:59.46 | Shirik | there's this thing called a GCD |
| 20:59.54 | Cide | you can spell queue within the window |
| 20:59.59 | Shirik | not on the GCD |
| 21:00.07 | Cide | really now |
| 21:00.39 | Cide | my dps would be so shit if I had 200ms delay between every action |
| 21:00.40 | Shirik | if I could then I wouldn't have so much trouble shielding the raid for the rolls |
| 21:00.54 | Shirik | what are you doing that is all instants? |
| 21:01.05 | Cide | everything except mind flay is <=1.5s |
| 21:01.12 | Shirik | <= 1.5s != instant |
| 21:01.23 | Cide | baseline 1.5s* |
| 21:01.26 | Cide | = instant |
| 21:01.51 | Shirik | doesn't matter, the queue is for the cast time |
| 21:01.52 | Stanzilla | you guys are cute |
| 21:02.03 | Cide | huh? |
| 21:02.08 | Shirik | I'm going to log in right now just to prove it |
| 21:02.11 | Cide | good |
| 21:02.12 | mckenziemc | the queue works for gcd too does in not? |
| 21:02.15 | Cide | even so |
| 21:02.17 | Cide | FOUR SECONDS |
| 21:02.22 | Shirik | it wasn't four seconds |
| 21:02.26 | Cide | it was |
| 21:02.34 | Cide | don't make me dig it up |
| 21:02.44 | Shirik | I was also standing in the right place |
| 21:02.47 | Shirik | and you can't prove otherwise |
| 21:02.52 | Cide | I cannot |
| 21:02.59 | Cide | for GetPlayerMapPosition() is not exposed |
| 21:03.56 | Cide | I may have to go back to gcc because of this shit |
| 21:03.59 | Cide | and that makes me so angry |
| 21:04.44 | Shirik | hey cool |
| 21:04.52 | Shirik | there's an option to enable it for the GCD |
| 21:05.09 | Shirik | in b4 "you are so shit" |
| 21:05.15 | Cide | nah |
| 21:05.24 | Cide | but 4s with no heals still makes you bad |
| 21:05.37 | Shirik | 2.3s cast time = 1.7s remaining |
| 21:05.48 | mckenziemc | ~failrik |
| 21:05.49 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 21:05.49 | Cide | 1.7 seconds of not doing anything |
| 21:05.52 | Shirik | add in the time to attempt to cast a shield, fail, and then decide to cast a heal instead after I realize that it didn't go of |
| 21:05.55 | Cide | when the tank takes 50k DTPS |
| 21:06.04 | Shirik | also |
| 21:06.08 | Shirik | I said on vent, I couldn't keep up |
| 21:06.10 | Shirik | before he died |
| 21:06.15 | Stanzilla | why do you fail at casting a shield? |
| 21:06.20 | Shirik | because weakened soul was up |
| 21:06.23 | Shirik | except Cide refuses to admit that |
| 21:06.30 | Cide | that's fine but |
| 21:06.31 | Stanzilla | why do you try to cast a shield when it is up? |
| 21:06.34 | Cide | what he said! |
| 21:06.37 | Shirik | because I knew it was about to expire |
| 21:06.39 | Shirik | and I was off |
| 21:06.50 | Stanzilla | why did it fail then? |
| 21:06.58 | Shirik | (13:06:53) (@Shirik) and I was off |
| 21:07.05 | Shirik | I was off by about 1s |
| 21:07.13 | Stanzilla | oh |
| 21:07.39 | Shirik | which lead to Cide not only telling me about how apparently a 1.7s gap is unforgivable |
| 21:07.49 | Shirik | but also him yelling at me for having a 2s gap in weakened soul |
| 21:07.54 | Cide | maybe we should have decipt kite now that we don't suck at getting to the last tendon |
| 21:08.10 | Cide | since you guys fail at keeping him alive |
| 21:08.17 | Shirik | a 2s gap, mind you, which was entirely covered by a spell in progress |
| 21:08.28 | Shirik | but I was supposed to stop casting so I could cast power word shield |
| 21:08.46 | Shirik | so that in 1s it would be gone |
| 21:08.46 | Cide | you know as well as I do that you fail at shielding lots of times |
| 21:08.59 | Cide | on our spine kill Shirik had 18 shields |
| 21:09.00 | Cide | total |
| 21:09.01 | Shirik | actually if you look at the logs for the entirety of thursday you will find that I spent a lot of time analyzing that |
| 21:09.09 | Shirik | and have fixed that problem |
| 21:09.19 | Stanzilla | is that even enough for keeping rapture on cd? |
| 21:09.20 | Cide | yes, and that's awesome |
| 21:09.21 | Shirik | which is also why I was almost full on mana the entire time |
| 21:09.24 | Cide | no |
| 21:09.27 | Cide | 12 minute fight, 12 second cd |
| 21:09.33 | Cide | so 60 shields minimum for max rapture |
| 21:09.36 | Shirik | as I said, it has been fixed |
| 21:09.39 | Cide | yeah |
| 21:09.42 | Shirik | he's quoting a fight from a week and a half ago |
| 21:09.51 | Cide | but don't blame me for thinking you were still at 18 shields mode |
| 21:09.52 | Shirik | because he's running out of things to complain about |
| 21:10.08 | Cide | you have to admit that most wipes were caused either by splint or healers on thursday |
| 21:10.13 | Cide | and I yelled at splint too |
| 21:10.26 | Cide | and by healers I mean tanks dying |
| 21:10.30 | Stanzilla | I made this super cool weakaura for Rapture :o |
| 21:10.38 | Shirik | I'm not sure I agree with that |
| 21:10.50 | Cide | and by most wipes I mean most wipes on last armor plate |
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| 21:10.55 | Shirik | ... |
| 21:11.09 | Shirik | "and by most wipes on last armor plate I mean most wipes on last armor plate where the tank died" |
| 21:11.13 | Cide | no |
| 21:11.16 | Cide | just that criteria |
| 21:11.20 | Shirik | "and by most wipes on last armor plate where the tank died I mean most wipes on last armor plate where the tank died because of a lack of healing" |
| 21:11.45 | Cide | most times we got to the last armor plate it's my opinion that either splint failed or tanks died |
| 21:12.11 | Shirik | give me a potential cause of wiping on the last armor plate that is not one of those two things happening? |
| 21:12.45 | Cide | dps not killing the amalgamation fast enough for 2 grips, not breaking grip fast enough, aoeing bloods, not killing tendon in time |
| 21:12.48 | mckenziemc | people jumping off the wing |
| 21:12.52 | Cide | killing amalgamation before it's at 9 stacks |
| 21:12.56 | Shirik | I was about to say that mckenziemc not fair |
| 21:13.08 | BlackNet | sounds like bad raid leadership |
| 21:13.26 | Cide | for sure |
| 21:13.38 | Cide | but yes |
| 21:13.42 | Shirik | tbh here's the problem with healing |
| 21:13.45 | Cide | the fight is really simple for d ps |
| 21:13.46 | Cide | dps |
| 21:13.54 | Shirik | all the minor errors that people make go completely unnoticed |
| 21:13.55 | Cide | and by simple I mean easy |
| 21:13.56 | BlackNet | but then on the other hand ppl should know the mechanics of the fight via doing homework and not have to rely on a nanny to tell them what to do |
| 21:13.59 | Shirik | however they slowly stack up the healing required |
| 21:14.04 | Shirik | until it's unable to be accounted for |
| 21:14.27 | Shirik | let's be honest, even if I had healed in those two seconds, we can conservatively say I'd average a 50k heal there |
| 21:14.40 | Shirik | and then, by your own admission, 50k DTPS |
| 21:14.41 | Cide | you hear me bitching about corruptions not dying before searing plasma is cast a couple times a raid too |
| 21:14.44 | Shirik | I wouldn't even get another heal off |
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| 21:14.59 | Cide | sure |
| 21:15.04 | Cide | maybe he would have died anyway |
| 21:15.04 | Shirik | that's caused by there being too much damage in the first place |
| 21:15.11 | Cide | but if we rely on healing through that without kiting |
| 21:15.20 | Cide | surely you must agree that 4s with no heals is unacceptable |
| 21:15.24 | Cide | any way you look at it |
| 21:15.35 | Shirik | if you give me 0 margin for error, sure |
| 21:15.48 | Cide | if we are to survive a tank taking 50k DTPS |
| 21:15.54 | Cide | we can't have the tank receiving no heals for 4 seconds |
| 21:16.10 | Cide | without assigning blame that much is pretty obvious to me at least |
| 21:16.12 | Shirik | I lost track of what happened for 1.7 seconds |
| 21:16.16 | Shirik | that's my margin for error |
| 21:16.18 | BlackNet | have the armory link for your tank that i can take a peek at ? |
| 21:16.23 | Cide | why |
| 21:16.42 | Cide | I'm not talking about you Shirik |
| 21:16.53 | Cide | but I think you can agree that the tank will die every single time |
| 21:17.13 | Fisker | hey Cide |
| 21:17.15 | Fisker | not so hey Shirik |
| 21:17.18 | Cide | if he takes 50k DTPS for four consecutive seconds with no healing |
| 21:17.32 | Shirik | Then get the others to help me |
| 21:17.36 | Cide | they should be |
| 21:17.52 | Shirik | I'll tell you why they're not: Because too many other people are taking damage |
| 21:18.02 | Shirik | and no, I don't know why because I don't have 1.7 seconds to look up from my screen and figure out wtf is going on |
| 21:18.31 | Cide | that's why I like using targeting instead of click casting |
| 21:18.48 | Cide | I can just spam 3 (gheal) instead of making sure my mouse button is over the tank |
| 21:18.59 | Cide | or v (flash heal) |
| 21:19.02 | Shirik | and you target how? |
| 21:19.09 | Cide | click the raid frame |
| 21:19.18 | Shirik | so you don't have to put your mouse over the tank |
| 21:19.22 | Shirik | but you have to put your mouse over the tank |
| 21:19.36 | Cide | I'm not sure if you're really irritated or not |
| 21:20.06 | Cide | but naturally you have to target the tank before you heal |
| 21:20.18 | Cide | and once the tank is targeted you can cast multiple heals without having the mouse over the tank |
| 21:20.26 | Shirik | and how is that different from not moving your mouse? |
| 21:21.43 | Cide | mostly because there's no mouse positioning requirement once the tank is targeted |
| 21:21.49 | Cide | but that's just my personal preference |
| 21:22.00 | Cide | clicking to target and then healing is slightly slower for other things |
| 21:22.12 | Cide | but I never got used to click healing |
| 21:22.17 | Fisker | hey Cide |
| 21:22.20 | Cide | hi Fisker |
| 21:24.55 | Fisker | hey |
| 21:25.46 | Cide | how high was your mana near the end anyway Shirik? |
| 21:25.54 | Cide | might be able to afford constant flash healing -_- |
| 21:26.19 | Cide | might be better to investigate kiting again though |
| 21:26.44 | BlackNet | ok uploading 2 gigs of video :) |
| 21:27.18 | Cide | good for you? |
| 21:27.30 | Fisker | i once uploaded 2 gigs of video |
| 21:27.40 | BlackNet | will get processed down to nothing |
| 21:27.54 | BlackNet | doing it from a fiber connection so it should take no time |
| 21:28.05 | Cide | I too should narrate random things I do |
| 21:28.13 | Cide | ok browsing the interwebs :) |
| 21:28.40 | BlackNet | this is not random :) |
| 21:28.54 | Cide | clearly |
| 21:30.29 | BlackNet | have sinestra, normal madness, h morchok, h yor vid's |
| 21:30.35 | Shirik | Cide: I have already tried that; it takes too long for flash healing to survive the entire time. I either need to find a way to waste mana faster or not waste as much of it |
| 21:31.03 | Shirik | shadowfiend is not up in time for the first tendon shot |
| 21:31.11 | Shirik | so I need to use it earlier |
| 21:31.17 | Shirik | but if I use it earlier it's literally a waste |
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| 21:31.41 | Cide | yeah |
| 21:32.12 | Cide | oh wtf |
| 21:32.26 | Cide | you should drop focused will for train of thought |
| 21:32.42 | Cide | I think you grabbed it for yor'sahj originally? |
| 21:36.08 | Stanzilla | ... |
| 21:36.10 | Shirik | I don't remember |
| 21:36.17 | Shirik | it must be |
| 21:36.26 | Cide | don't ... my healer Stanzilla |
| 21:36.30 | Cide | it was awesome for yor'sahj! |
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| 21:36.40 | Cide | I think I suggested it even |
| 21:36.43 | Stanzilla | probably, yeah :p |
| 21:36.48 | Shirik | I think I remember going "are you serious?" |
| 21:37.58 | Shirik | oh btw I did a bunch of new math |
| 21:38.05 | Shirik | and came to the conclusion that holy is worthless |
| 21:38.14 | Cide | yes it is |
| 21:38.16 | Cide | sadly |
| 21:38.22 | Cide | it's so much more fun |
| 21:38.40 | Shirik | because you can actually get the effective result of holy buffs from doing the right things as disc |
| 21:38.58 | Shirik | part of that whole research thing was how to keep evangelism on cooldown |
| 21:39.11 | Shirik | which is how I've gotten into a cycle of keeping rapture on cooldown |
| 21:39.23 | Cide | quite a cycle |
| 21:39.27 | Cide | shield the tank every 12s |
| 21:39.36 | Shirik | yeah there's a little more to it than that |
| 21:39.42 | Cide | I played disc for a long time :P |
| 21:39.44 | Shirik | you need to keep evangelism on cooldown |
| 21:39.52 | Shirik | and you need to not be attacking during the first 15s of cooldown |
| 21:39.55 | Cide | well, the whole rapture part is mostly shield the tank every 12s |
| 21:40.12 | Shirik | trust me when it comes to theorycrafting I will destroy you |
| 21:40.24 | Cide | for sure |
| 21:41.10 | Cide | zzz |
| 21:41.13 | Cide | fix my segfault |
| 21:41.18 | Cide | I really don't want gcc |
| 21:41.19 | Shirik | I already gave you the fix |
| 21:41.22 | Cide | you did not |
| 21:41.31 | Shirik | (12:45:20) (@Shirik) Cide: void noop(int) { }; std::signal(SIGSEGV, noop); |
| 21:41.51 | Stanzilla | Shirik: can you explain your cycle? :) |
| 21:42.12 | Shirik | so far it only works on spine due to clock drift |
| 21:42.15 | Cide | on par with #define private public |
| 21:42.58 | Shirik | at the start of the fight, get to 5 stacks, then shield the raid, pop evangelism and your timers start |
| 21:43.16 | Shirik | 15s of healing, 5s of dpsing, put your first shield on the tank, pop evangelism |
| 21:43.23 | Shirik | that should be about a 2s drift |
| 21:43.28 | Shirik | rinse and repeat |
| 21:43.45 | Shirik | you will eventually get a 15s drift when you should be casting shield during your healing phase |
| 21:43.58 | Shirik | at that point the raid should be taking raid-wide damage from amalgamation, shield the raid |
| 21:44.00 | Cide | do you actually gain healing from that? |
| 21:44.02 | Cide | or only m ana |
| 21:44.04 | Cide | mana* |
| 21:44.28 | Shirik | once the plate pops, get to 5 stacks, consume evangelism, and restart the rotation |
| 21:44.37 | Shirik | the whole point of the 15s healing phase is to gain healing |
| 21:44.48 | Shirik | it only lasts 15s |
| 21:44.51 | Cide | yeah, but evangelism is only 15s or so? |
| 21:44.53 | Shirik | so you keep the dps on the side that isn't boosted |
| 21:44.59 | Cide | err |
| 21:45.00 | Cide | 15% healing |
| 21:45.35 | Shirik | you should be giving up about 5s for dps time, during which you have atonement healing |
| 21:47.40 | Cide | true |
| 21:47.57 | Shirik | and with 30k crits |
| 21:48.11 | Shirik | atonement does quite a decent job |
| 21:48.21 | Cide | it's on par with Heal or so |
| 21:50.15 | Cide | why would it fail with clang but not gcc |
| 21:50.24 | Cide | it makes no sense to me |
| 21:52.04 | Shirik | what is the actual failure |
| 21:53.26 | Cide | sec |
| 21:59.08 | Cide | what the fuck does Unhandled dwarf expression opcode 0x0 mean |
| 21:59.43 | Shirik | I'm pretty convinced you're smashing your stack |
| 22:04.50 | Dagmar | You need to provide it with more beer. |
| 22:07.04 | zenzelezz | isn't DWARF a debug format? |
| 22:07.14 | cbreak | it is. |
| 22:07.19 | cbreak | but it is also much more |
| 22:07.44 | cbreak | DWARF is also used for exception handling in C++, stack unrolling and so on. |
| 22:07.46 | cbreak | (with gcc) |
| 22:08.02 | cbreak | it's a whole language with its own vm |
| 22:08.24 | zenzelezz | interesting |
| 22:08.41 | cbreak | there was an interesting talk I saw on youtube that instrumentalized DWARF to inject code into a program without changing the disassembled program a single bit |
| 22:10.02 | zenzelezz | don't suppose you have the link still? |
| 22:10.59 | cbreak | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLH7ytOTYto or so |
| 22:11.16 | Cide | doesn't opcode 0x0 sound kind of worrying though |
| 22:11.30 | zenzelezz | cbreak: cheers |
| 22:11.34 | cbreak | only 279 views :/ it was interesting. |
| 22:11.45 | zenzelezz | "49 minutes!? TL;DW" |
| 22:15.06 | Stanzilla | gee shee shee |
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| 22:40.58 | BlackNet | takes for freaking ever to do the audioswap |
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| 23:31.07 | bluspacecow | Cairenn|afk: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/431735_268294356581966_110722312339172_602261_513693409_n.jpg |
| 23:40.19 | Arrowmaster | wow its been a year already? security support for debian lenny is now officially over |
| 23:43.10 | zenzelezz | for some reason I just envisaged Debian Carl |
| 23:56.59 | Cairenn | bluspacecow: cute - both links |
| 23:57.08 | bluspacecow | :P |
