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| 00:14.36 | mikma | fisker: here's what i was talking about like week+ ago: http://www.centives.net/S/2012/how-much-would-it-cost-to-build-the-death-star/ |
| 00:19.59 | pnorman | The death star was built with unobtainium |
| 00:20.30 | mikma | May the force be with you -Captain Kirk |
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| 00:22.59 | TC-Work | oh look, my ME3 just shiped |
| 00:23.03 | TC-Work | shipped* |
| 00:28.27 | foxlit_ | TC-Work: but the big question is, have you purchased the DLC yet? |
| 00:42.45 | TC-Work | foxlit_: there is DLC already? |
| 00:43.03 | foxlit_ | there was a considerable amount of noise to that effect |
| 00:45.23 | Arrowmaster | did you order the collectors edition? if so you get the dlc for free |
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| 00:45.46 | TC-Work | yes i did |
| 00:45.50 | TC-Work | thats good to know |
| 00:45.58 | Arrowmaster | bastard |
| 00:46.10 | Arrowmaster | preorders were sold out when i remembered i still needed to preorder it |
| 00:46.13 | foxlit_ | how dare they actually make the CE numbers limited? :P |
| 00:46.37 | Arrowmaster | ill try best buy though, theyll probably have a shelf full even though i couldnt preorder it from them |
| 00:47.41 | TC-Work | Well, i ordered it on Jan 20th, so i think i came in before the rush |
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| 00:48.13 | Arrowmaster | i was trying most of feburary and couldnt get one |
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| 01:48.59 | TC-Work | anyone know how to install and configure vim properly? |
| 01:49.03 | TC-Work | i cant seem to do it |
| 01:53.34 | karl_w_w | delete it and get something else? |
| 01:55.35 | karl_w_w | you know the saying |
| 01:55.46 | karl_w_w | when god gives you lemons, you find a new god |
| 01:56.09 | Dagmar | TC-Work: What distro are you on that you can't just throw in a package? |
| 01:56.20 | Dagmar | TC-Work: LFS almost certainly has a stanza for it tho |
| 01:56.48 | TC-Work | Dagmar: centos in the 5.x flavor |
| 01:56.59 | TC-Work | the package didnt want to work either |
| 01:57.08 | Dagmar | *shudder* |
| 01:57.20 | TC-Work | i mean they both install, they just dont seem to be configured properly |
| 01:57.30 | Dagmar | What do you mean |
| 01:58.16 | Dagmar | well, that's basically the problem. What "balance?" |
| 01:58.19 | TC-Work | arrow keys do abcd, no color formatting, no notice that you are in insert mode when you hit 'i', etc |
| 01:58.20 | Dagmar | @#$@ |
| 01:58.45 | Dagmar | You didn't leave out ncurses or change the TERM variable did you? |
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| 01:59.03 | TC-Work | ncurses and ncurses-devel are installed |
| 01:59.07 | Dagmar | The ABCD thing sounds like your terminal maybe thinks it's in VT100 mode or something |
| 01:59.15 | Dagmar | thinks... |
| 01:59.16 | TC-Work | i didnt do anything with TERM |
| 01:59.22 | Dagmar | You're not running it as 'vi' are you? |
| 01:59.51 | TC-Work | yopu mean the no compat thing? |
| 01:59.55 | Dagmar | It will generally behave much differently |
| 02:00.12 | Dagmar | It's somewhat of a new thing for it to behave like that as well |
| 02:00.26 | Dagmar | Some people are apparently psychotic enough to want "pure" vi mode |
| 02:00.39 | TC-Work | if i want vi mode, i'll just vi |
| 02:00.43 | TC-Work | use vi* |
| 02:00.51 | Dagmar | Ah, so you're typing 'vim' then.. |
| 02:00.54 | Dagmar | That's darned odd |
| 02:00.54 | TC-Work | si |
| 02:01.44 | TC-Work | anoying is far mor like it |
| 02:01.47 | TC-Work | more* |
| 02:01.52 | Dagmar | Well, yeah I can see it would be annoying |
| 02:02.00 | TC-Work | now i am trying to uninstall the install and not havign muh luck |
| 02:02.03 | TC-Work | having* |
| 02:02.08 | TC-Work | much* |
| 02:02.10 | Dagmar | Bleh. I fdon't have an FC machine to try and poke at this with |
| 02:02.27 | TC-Work | no worries |
| 02:02.30 | Dagmar | TC-Work: If you didn't do a make clean or something you can generally do make uninstall |
| 02:02.46 | TC-Work | [root@bughost02 petdance-vim-perl-252d7ab]# make uninstall |
| 02:02.47 | TC-Work | make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'. Stop. |
| 02:02.51 | Dagmar | Drat |
| 02:02.54 | TC-Work | yep |
| 02:03.12 | TC-Work | er...shit |
| 02:03.14 | TC-Work | wrong folder |
| 02:03.35 | TC-Work | that worked in the right folder, go us |
| 02:03.43 | Dagmar | heh |
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| 02:42.45 | pompy | Arrowmaster: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16874105740 |
| 02:43.57 | amro | http://hatepaste.com/paste/46ceded2 |
| 02:55.19 | Shirik | so apparently I'm the only WoW TCG judge at PAX East |
| 02:56.29 | alestane | Shirik, you'll be at PAX East? I'll have to stop by! |
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| 03:00.11 | kd3 | eeh. it's bad when a fark headline goes "Shut. Down. EVERYTHING" and you know something's happened in madagascar again |
| 03:02.18 | Xyphoid | what's happened there |
| 03:02.33 | kd3 | tropical storm irina killed 65 |
| 03:02.33 | Xyphoid | i like the place, glad we got there before the coup :( |
| 03:03.38 | Shirik | yes alestane |
| 03:03.50 | Shirik | let's see |
| 03:04.21 | Shirik | 1:30-10:30PM friday/saturday, 11:30-6:30 sunday |
| 03:05.03 | Shirik | and somehow I'm taking a lunch at 5 PM |
| 03:05.04 | Shirik | during an event |
| 03:05.12 | Shirik | without another judge to take my place |
| 03:07.48 | alestane | That's always fun. |
| 03:08.05 | Arrowmaster | whens pax east? |
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| 03:08.57 | alestane | If you need me to run dinner in for you or something, we can probably arrange that. |
| 03:09.46 | Arrowmaster | if you think you can teach me to judge by then and get me in and get me there ill judge it with you! |
| 03:10.39 | Arrowmaster | i dear god this just showed up on the xbox ambassador help |
| 03:10.40 | Lunessa | Mmm… Maybe one day I will go to Pax |
| 03:10.47 | Arrowmaster | "OK WELL I WAS GETTING MODS FOR DEAD ISLAND AND I JOINED A GAME WITH SOME PEOPLE AND THE GUY WAS MEING MEAN SAO I WAS THROWING MODED GRENADES AT HIM AND HE SENT ME A MESSAGE SAYING HE WAS GOING TO FREZE MY XBOX AND HE DID AND NOW MY XBOX IS FROZEN" |
| 03:11.21 | Arrowmaster | this is why i cant remember the last time i answered anybody on xbox ambassador help |
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| 03:13.23 | Ackis | lol Arrowmaster |
| 03:15.03 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: Sadly, it's easter weekend |
| 03:15.13 | pompy | Ackis: you have me3 already? |
| 03:15.16 | Shirik | it somewhat disrupts other plans |
| 03:15.18 | Shirik | but oh well |
| 03:16.07 | Shirik | alestane: We actually have 9 other staffers, and I know some of them have their L1 judge cert so I'll just poke one of them to cover for me :P |
| 03:16.23 | Arrowmaster | checks calender to figure out when easter is |
| 03:16.31 | Shirik | first week in april |
| 03:16.40 | alestane | An underfed judge is not a goodness. |
| 03:17.15 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: so thats a no to training me by then and getting me a free ticket in and free flight? |
| 03:19.15 | Lunessa | alestane: it's double-plus ungood |
| 03:21.29 | Mr_Rabies | oh man this computer class is so annoying |
| 03:22.00 | Mr_Rabies | The storage capacity of portable media devices is measured in ________. | A) bytes B) gigabytes C) terabytes D) megabytes |
| 03:22.12 | Mr_Rabies | i'm pretty sure they're looking for B, using previous tests as a guideline |
| 03:22.20 | Shirik | I don't control that Arrowmaster :( |
| 03:22.24 | Mr_Rabies | but instead of answering properly, i have to scour the book for the answer they want :/ |
| 03:22.24 | Shirik | You should have applied a month ago! |
| 03:22.30 | sintAcks | would /castsequence reset=10 [@focus,nodead][@party1,nodead] Tricks of the Trade; [@target] Redirect work o.O |
| 03:22.47 | TC-Work | Mr_Rabies: where is the "all of the above" option |
| 03:22.49 | Arrowmaster | Mr_Rabies: B is wrong, its A or D |
| 03:23.05 | bluspacecow | kk BBL |
| 03:23.10 | Mr_Rabies | in reality it's A, but i'm pretty sure they're looking for B Arrowmaster |
| 03:23.35 | Shirik | the answer is "none of the above" because the marketing guys decided to invent their own units |
| 03:23.37 | Arrowmaster | Mr_Rabies: the only reason i say D is because the first Rio's only had megabytes of storage |
| 03:23.49 | Mr_Rabies | this class is so much bs |
| 03:23.52 | Lunessa | sintAcks: No. It wouldn't. |
| 03:23.58 | sintAcks | sadface |
| 03:24.16 | Mr_Rabies | i've missed so many questions because i answered them properly instead of using the book's flawed definition |
| 03:24.19 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: actually that depends, if its using flash memory then it would be in true gigabytes |
| 03:24.23 | Mr_Rabies | i'm still making like a 95, but still |
| 03:24.31 | Mr_Rabies | wasting my time |
| 03:24.39 | Lunessa | You have two conditions there. a) you can't change conditions mid-sequence, b) the way it is written it will bever get to Redirect. |
| 03:24.48 | Mr_Rabies | so i do all the work an hour before it's due so the professor has to work his ass off too |
| 03:25.12 | sintAcks | 5derp. i wrote it wrong |
| 03:25.14 | Arrowmaster | Mr_Rabies: when i studied for the Network+ and Security+ exams i had to do the same thing, i downloaded copies of the tests and learned what they wanted instead of the correct answers |
| 03:25.26 | Arrowmaster | i ended up getting a perfect score on the Security+ |
| 03:25.31 | sintAcks | [@focusshit] spell, [@targetshit] redirect |
| 03:25.32 | sintAcks | ? |
| 03:27.05 | Mr_Rabies | One factor that determines how much music a player can hold is the ________ of the MP3 music files. A) length B) brand C) quality D) type |
| 03:27.07 | Mr_Rabies | sigh |
| 03:27.12 | Mr_Rabies | i hate this class so much |
| 03:27.25 | Lunessa | sintAcks: You can't change conditions/targets inside a sequence. The conditionals must apply to the entire sequence. |
| 03:27.35 | Arrowmaster | Mr_Rabies: A and C |
| 03:27.37 | sintAcks | gay |
| 03:27.53 | Mr_Rabies | can only answer one, Arrowmaster! |
| 03:27.59 | Lunessa | ~sintacks -- |
| 03:28.11 | Arrowmaster | Mr_Rabies: sometimes questions can have more than one correct answer |
| 03:28.21 | Arrowmaster | if this isnt the case then your class really sucks |
| 03:28.24 | kd3 | I'd go with 'length', based on the questions you've given so far |
| 03:28.32 | kd3 | they want the idiot-proof answer |
| 03:28.39 | Mr_Rabies | only one is correct according to the system Arrowmaster |
| 03:29.14 | Arrowmaster | what exactly is the class? |
| 03:30.42 | Mr_Rabies | um |
| 03:30.47 | Mr_Rabies | "computer concepts" i think? |
| 03:30.57 | Mr_Rabies | prereq for all CIST classes |
| 03:31.07 | Arrowmaster | and you couldnt test out of it? |
| 03:31.11 | Mr_Rabies | nope |
| 03:31.14 | Mr_Rabies | well |
| 03:31.53 | Mr_Rabies | i might be able to, but i wouldn't be able to transfer it for any reason if i did, and i thought i'd actually learn something from it |
| 03:32.03 | Lunessa | Mr_Rabies: So you're saying it's a class aimed at people who don't really know anything about computers and computing. |
| 03:32.18 | Mr_Rabies | i didn't realize it was actually more out of date and less useful than the "introduction to computers" class i took |
| 03:32.36 | Mr_Rabies | which is just a general MS Office-type class |
| 03:32.47 | Mr_Rabies | at least that class teaches mostly correct information |
| 03:32.50 | Mr_Rabies | not outright lies :( |
| 03:32.55 | Arrowmaster | you do actually learn something from it, how to take any standardized certification exam other than the really specific ones, learn what they think is the right answer instead of what you know is the right answer |
| 03:33.20 | Mr_Rabies | it's a class only for those who intend on being CIST majors Lunessa |
| 03:33.34 | Arrowmaster | complain to the dean |
| 03:34.14 | Arrowmaster | although it likely wont do much since higher education doesnt really care about much anymore than profits |
| 03:34.33 | Lunessa | Oh, don't get me started. I worked with a guy who got a CIS degree in the 90s - and he couldn't figure out a hoe to use a GUI OR a command-line interface. I spent months reteaching him computing basics… and he was getting and extra $10K/year for having a degree. |
| 03:34.49 | sintAcks | /cast [@Silvari,nodead][@Lejendary,nodead] Tricks of the Trade |
| 03:34.49 | sintAcks | /cast [@boss4,exists][@boss3,exists][@boss2,exists] |
| 03:34.52 | sintAcks | dat don't work eitehr |
| 03:34.54 | Lunessa | I can't figure out how to use a keyboard. |
| 03:34.54 | sintAcks | cuz of stupid shit |
| 03:34.59 | sintAcks | :( |
| 03:35.09 | sintAcks | why the hell is redirect on the gcd anyway |
| 03:35.13 | sintAcks | stabs blizzard |
| 03:35.28 | Lunessa | To keep it from being an "I Win" button. |
| 03:35.48 | sintAcks | but it's not a spell you would want to macro to everything |
| 03:36.11 | sintAcks | i can understand ToT being on GCD. if it weren't, it would be macored to everything |
| 03:36.35 | Arrowmaster | Lunessa: yeah the way my job hunt has been i sometimes think about getting a BS but the thought of spending that many more years in college scares me |
| 03:36.36 | Lunessa | The idea of the GCD is to limit the actions you can take and force you to play straegically(sp?) |
| 03:36.36 | batbot | Lunessa, strategically. |
| 03:37.07 | sintAcks | i know that. this is a "strategically used" button.. |
| 03:37.27 | sintAcks | AR+ToT+Redirect+target tendon |
| 03:37.33 | sintAcks | but the redirect won't work :| |
| 03:37.41 | sintAcks | i can't even hit it twice |
| 03:37.49 | sintAcks | is the point of my bitching actually |
| 03:37.49 | Lunessa | Otherwise all games might as well be like the 1980s arcade game where the way to win the olympics was to mash buttons at the max possible speed the hardware could register. |
| 03:38.03 | sintAcks | I'd win that |
| 03:38.07 | sintAcks | i has fast fingers |
| 03:38.13 | Lunessa | Also, I don't think boss4 is a valid id. |
| 03:38.29 | sintAcks | there are 4 boss frames. i don't see why it wouldnt' be valid |
| 03:38.39 | sintAcks | i don't even know if it will ever get used either |
| 03:38.46 | Lunessa | Are there four? I thought only 3. |
| 03:38.53 | sintAcks | and i would only have to use Boss2 if I didn't have ShadowedUF |
| 03:39.02 | sintAcks | there are for on Yor'sahj |
| 03:39.09 | sintAcks | and assendent council |
| 03:39.13 | sintAcks | and fuck spelling |
| 03:39.44 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, Arrowmaster, the "right" answers are "gigabyte" and "quality" :/ |
| 03:39.54 | Arrowmaster | wrong and wrong |
| 03:39.58 | Lunessa | Ahh, look there. WoWpedia has it going up to 4. :) |
| 03:40.27 | Arrowmaster | i agree with kd3 that length is the more idiot proof answer than quality |
| 03:41.08 | sintAcks | [@Name,exists,nodead] |
| 03:41.13 | sintAcks | does the exists need to be there at all |
| 03:41.45 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 03:42.52 | Lunessa | That condition will fail if they're not in your party or raid. |
| 03:43.04 | Lunessa | Because that's the only way you can use a name. :) |
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| 03:46.12 | sintAcks | hmm. i'm going ot have to change ordering though.. focus is going to have to be after the named... cuz if they are sitting, it'll get stuck on them |
| 03:49.48 | Mr_Rabies | this class is going to make my eyes explode out of my head from the blood pressure it's giving me |
| 03:50.15 | Mr_Rabies | Smartphones include all of the following EXCEPT: A) an open-source program. B) memory. C) an operating system. D) a processor. |
| 03:50.16 | Mr_Rabies | Now, i know what they're looking for but how terrible of a question is this? |
| 03:50.39 | Arrowmaster | my smartphone has all of those |
| 03:50.40 | nilyaK | um, e none of the above? |
| 03:51.16 | Arrowmaster | my smartphone had all of those directly from the factory |
| 03:52.36 | nilyaK | d/w I had a test question last quarter: which of the following operators can be used in javascript to test for equality a) = b) := c) == d) === |
| 03:52.59 | nilyaK | I was like uhhh, I have an issue with this question |
| 03:53.04 | Arrowmaster | doesnt know javascript |
| 03:53.43 | nilyaK | c) and d) both test for equality, one has javascript's type conversion converting the right and operand to the the same type as the left operand, === does not do this. |
| 03:54.08 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 03:54.30 | Mr_Rabies | this section on smartphones hasn't been updated since android became A Thing |
| 03:54.42 | Mr_Rabies | they're talking about webos, windows mobile, and iphone os |
| 03:54.49 | nilyaK | so they're looking for oss |
| 03:55.12 | Arrowmaster | webos has opensource in it |
| 03:55.22 | nilyaK | then what on earth are they looking for |
| 03:55.34 | Arrowmaster | opensource but they are fucking idiots |
| 03:55.42 | nilyaK | yea, =/ |
| 03:56.31 | Mr_Rabies | oh god they're confusing memory and storage, rad |
| 03:57.08 | Mr_Rabies | as if there weren't enough people that did that |
| 03:57.31 | Mr_Rabies | i know that technically storage IS memory, but generally if you just say "memory" it refers to RAM |
| 03:57.39 | Mr_Rabies | unless you're confused |
| 03:58.33 | Mr_Rabies | at least it's not telling people to install mywebsearch in this chapter |
| 03:58.44 | Mr_Rabies | another chapter of the book was telling people it was a search engine |
| 03:58.45 | Mr_Rabies | :( |
| 03:58.54 | Arrowmaster | seriously? |
| 03:58.56 | Mr_Rabies | yes |
| 03:58.58 | pompy | haha |
| 03:59.03 | Arrowmaster | isnt that a virus? |
| 03:59.09 | Mr_Rabies | pretttty much |
| 03:59.11 | pompy | spyware/malware |
| 03:59.14 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 03:59.16 | Arrowmaster | the fuck |
| 03:59.18 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 03:59.39 | Arrowmaster | if any of my books where that bad i would have gone to the dean |
| 03:59.40 | pompy | fucking StopSign has a tv commercial |
| 03:59.44 | pompy | i was like, are u serious |
| 03:59.49 | Arrowmaster | stopsign? |
| 03:59.54 | Mr_Rabies | most AV programs detect it as malware |
| 04:00.11 | Mr_Rabies | well, the dean's on the main campus and i'm on a satellite campus :( |
| 04:00.20 | Mr_Rabies | the main campus is about 2 hours away |
| 04:00.20 | Arrowmaster | email |
| 04:00.25 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, i might |
| 04:00.27 | Mr_Rabies | this is getting bad |
| 04:00.41 | Mr_Rabies | i'm not gonna take anymore IT classes at this school |
| 04:00.41 | Arrowmaster | start off with the mywebsearch is a virus part |
| 04:00.44 | Mr_Rabies | i'll wait until i transfer |
| 04:00.51 | pompy | eAccelaration |
| 04:00.57 | pompy | theyve been like ad driven and shiot |
| 04:01.08 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, we saw a lot of that kinda stuff at the computer repair place i worked at pompy |
| 04:01.28 | pompy | remember Gator back in teh day? |
| 04:01.29 | Mr_Rabies | lots of bs programs that either don't do anything and charge money or actively hurt the pc |
| 04:01.36 | pompy | program to store your passwords |
| 04:01.46 | pompy | that turned out to be iffy bc of the adware in it |
| 04:01.51 | Mr_Rabies | i still work there from time to time, a friend of mine owns it, but man it's hard to work for friends |
| 04:01.58 | Mr_Rabies | we still see the occasional computer with gator on it |
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| 04:02.21 | Arrowmaster | what about bonzibuddy |
| 04:02.31 | Mr_Rabies | every now and then we get the pc that's somehow been connected to the internet since 2001-2002 but doesn't even have xp service pack 1 on it |
| 04:02.47 | Mr_Rabies | i don't even know how |
| 04:03.12 | Mr_Rabies | it invariably has norton systemworks 2002 on it with an expired license from 2003 |
| 04:03.19 | Mr_Rabies | every damned time |
| 04:03.31 | Mr_Rabies | norton has the amazing ability to completely block windows updates, it's awesome |
| 04:03.41 | Mr_Rabies | it's better at doing that than most viruses nowadays |
| 04:03.41 | pompy | yeah ohh and CWS was the nasty infection back in the day |
| 04:03.42 | kd3 | oh ye gods, a zetsubou-sensei ova? |
| 04:03.53 | pompy | was a Russian based web hosting company |
| 04:03.58 | Mr_Rabies | i might be starting SZS once i finish shin mazinger, kd3 |
| 04:04.06 | Mr_Rabies | (you should totally watch shin mazinger) |
| 04:04.47 | kd3 | it's hilarious. shaft does their thing with it, though. doesn't bother me, but that's a major turn-off to some |
| 04:06.10 | Kraps | mass effect |
| 04:07.01 | pompy | Kraps: what about it!? |
| 04:07.02 | Mr_Rabies | i haven't watched much shaft |
| 04:07.12 | Kraps | i should buy it |
| 04:07.19 | pompy | im working on ME1 right nw |
| 04:07.21 | pompy | now* |
| 04:07.21 | Mr_Rabies | most of their shows are "high school girls do stuff that shouldn't matter to anyone" so i don't watch it much |
| 04:07.28 | Mr_Rabies | madoka's the only show of theirs i've seen i think |
| 04:07.39 | kd3 | if by most you mean... hidamari? |
| 04:08.09 | Mr_Rabies | http://i.imgur.com/OCc0c.png |
| 04:08.12 | Mr_Rabies | this class |
| 04:08.13 | Mr_Rabies | i swear |
| 04:08.45 | kd3 | sigh. RAM/storage conflation |
| 04:08.53 | Arrowmaster | but my smartphone doesnt have a microsd slot =( |
| 04:09.11 | nilyaK | but my phone isn't smart :( |
| 04:09.43 | Kraps | FUCK EVERYTHING I'M BUYING ME3 |
| 04:09.54 | pompy | from where? |
| 04:10.08 | Xyphoid | the me3 twitter thing is neat |
| 04:10.14 | Kraps | gamefly |
| 04:12.56 | pompy | havent used gamefly since like 2008 i think. |
| 04:13.16 | Kraps | they bought of d2d |
| 04:13.19 | Kraps | off |
| 04:13.33 | Kraps | i would have used them |
| 04:13.40 | Kraps | close enough |
| 04:13.42 | Arrowmaster | i thought that was gamestop |
| 04:14.32 | Kraps | naw |
| 04:14.40 | Kraps | On May 25, 2011, Gamefly acquired Direct2Drive from IGN Entertainment Group. |
| 04:14.50 | pompy | Kraps: ohg thats why i see gamefly has pc games now then |
| 04:20.49 | pompy | Kraps: what are their rates like now a days |
| 04:21.42 | Kraps | i dont have a console |
| 04:21.55 | Mr_Rabies | kd3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qVQ-nej6t8 doit |
| 04:22.11 | Mr_Rabies | directed by the guy that did Giant Robo |
| 04:22.23 | Mr_Rabies | and the 2004 Tetsujin 28 |
| 04:22.34 | Mr_Rabies | and G Gundam! |
| 04:24.10 | Kraps | i just remembered i could have bout it on amazon what it wrong with me |
| 04:30.07 | Kraps | eh, gameflys this is similar to steam, its ok |
| 04:37.29 | pompy | Kraps: but you get $10 amazon credit ! |
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| 04:38.31 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:39.52 | pompy | gamefly letting u preload? |
| 04:44.41 | Kraps | yeah |
| 04:45.01 | Kraps | its not officially released yet? |
| 04:45.07 | kd3 | wtf, nysdot? "According to Paderewski, construction ending on Nov. 9 is a safe bet. She said the construction company will be fined $33,000 every day it finishes early or late. " |
| 04:45.49 | Kraps | i have fallen so behind on gaming news |
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| 04:47.04 | TC-Work | wait, fined for being early? |
| 04:47.32 | kd3 | http://www.thedailyyorktown.com/news/state-dot-push-alternate-routes-taconic |
| 04:48.21 | TC-Work | i hope that is a typo |
| 04:49.10 | Shirik | "we would be finished, but we need to sign this paper, and I seem to have lost all 100 pens that have been given to me" |
| 04:49.27 | Shirik | "I've put in an order for another 1000 pens but it won't get here until the 9th" |
| 04:50.16 | Trela | "Sorry commissioner, the bolts on that last railing are missing. We are ordering more." |
| 04:56.01 | Computerpunk | !framexml |
| 04:56.04 | Computerpunk | ~framexml |
| 04:56.05 | purl | hmm... framexml is Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 04:58.55 | pompy | Kraps: 3/6 |
| 04:59.16 | Kraps | midnight est? |
| 04:59.32 | pompy | depends on where gamefly is located |
| 04:59.36 | pompy | i'd guess |
| 04:59.42 | pompy | amazon goes pdt |
| 04:59.57 | pompy | so 3am for me |
| 05:00.27 | Kraps | ah |
| 05:00.56 | pompy | unless that ackis who's had the game already and has put 40+ hrs into it with 38+/46 achievemetns :O |
| 05:01.15 | pompy | unlike* |
| 05:01.25 | Kraps | wat |
| 05:01.31 | Kraps | hax |
| 05:02.44 | TC-Work | you people are wat too anal about playing |
| 05:02.48 | TC-Work | way* |
| 05:04.00 | pompy | and apparently Raptr has logged 3.3k hours of me3 gameplay already |
| 05:04.01 | pompy | wth |
| 05:04.54 | TC-Work | beta? |
| 05:05.44 | pompy | nah |
| 05:07.38 | pompy | I don't think so at least, Raptr and/or xbl should specify in the title if its a demo. |
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| 05:09.03 | pompy | TC-Work: by beta you mean demo |
| 05:09.04 | TC-Work | it's always worrysome when dark fiber connections drop |
| 05:09.14 | TC-Work | pompy: ah, was that it? |
| 05:09.21 | pompy | yeahh. |
| 05:09.44 | pompy | they released the demo like a week b4 retail release |
| 05:09.55 | TC-Work | oh, that i know, i played it |
| 05:10.13 | TC-Work | just didnt know raptr read it as the same game |
| 05:10.29 | Kraps | TC-Work: anal? this is the greatest scifi release since the star wars movies! |
| 05:10.36 | TC-Work | i dont use raptr, it does nothing for me |
| 05:10.43 | pompy | nah its def the retail one its reading bc demos dont have achievements and its listing gained achievements |
| 05:11.03 | pompy | 46 Achievements Average earned by Raptr members: 13 |
| 05:11.06 | pompy | rediculous |
| 05:11.10 | TC-Work | Kraps: i disagree |
| 05:11.28 | pompy | TC-Work: they updated it to give ppl e-peens |
| 05:11.31 | Kraps | clearly you have wrong opinions then |
| 05:11.33 | TC-Work | pompy: could be those games that people recovered from the baloons |
| 05:11.36 | pompy | it ranks ur gameplay and shit |
| 05:11.54 | TC-Work | balloons* |
| 05:12.13 | pompy | what was that about? |
| 05:12.29 | TC-Work | http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/721126/mass-effect-3-space-balloon-hunt-continues-second-launch-imminent/ |
| 05:12.49 | TC-Work | granted, it's an old article, but you get the idea |
| 05:13.07 | pompy | lol wow |
| 05:13.12 | pompy | neat by bioware |
| 05:13.55 | kd3 | blah. c'mon weather. make up your damned mine |
| 05:13.59 | kd3 | sub-freezing again, brr |
| 05:14.21 | TC-Work | hey, my mine is nice and neat :p |
| 05:14.34 | kd3 | s/mine/mind/ |
| 05:21.08 | Arrowmaster | the fuck i cant login to xbox.com |
| 05:21.48 | Mr_Rabies | log in and out of live.com and/or clear your cookie |
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| 05:22.48 | pompy | Arrowmaster: was able to sign in |
| 05:22.49 | Mr_Rabies | the xbox cookie likes to stick even if the live cookie/session expires/gets replaced by another account's |
| 05:23.23 | Arrowmaster | i only have one account |
| 05:23.28 | Arrowmaster | oh wait nvm |
| 05:23.36 | Arrowmaster | i have 3 now |
| 05:24.05 | pompy | :O |
| 05:24.46 | Arrowmaster | nobody had more preorder bonuses than gamestop right? |
| 05:25.35 | Arrowmaster | the N7 Armor, N7 Valkyrie Rifle, and M55 Argus Assault Rifle |
| 05:27.25 | pompy | http://www.ea.com/news/mass-effect-3-reveals-pre-order-bonus-gear maybe |
| 05:28.51 | Arrowmaster | looks like it |
| 05:28.56 | Arrowmaster | at least its not ME2 again |
| 05:29.00 | TC-Work | do the companies just pay extra for that stuff? |
| 05:29.56 | pompy | the publisher probably decides what bonuses go to what retailer |
| 05:30.15 | Arrowmaster | im guessing the retails pay for the bonuses |
| 05:30.23 | Arrowmaster | retailers |
| 05:30.38 | Arrowmaster | otherwise theres no incentive to give different bonuses to different retailers |
| 05:32.11 | pompy | http://thegamingliberty.com/index.php/2009/12/11/pre-order-bonuses-why-theyre-unfair-to-the-average-gamer/ lol |
| 05:32.41 | Arrowmaster | well you know what i did for ME2 |
| 05:34.49 | pompy | http://miksta.teamofprogrammers.com/me3ce.txt are those CE contents worth the $80?! |
| 05:34.57 | Arrowmaster | and Arkham City |
| 05:35.05 | Arrowmaster | hmm what else did i do it for |
| 05:35.19 | Arrowmaster | Battlefield 3 |
| 05:35.24 | TC-Work | 70 page art book isnt bad |
| 05:36.09 | Arrowmaster | pompy: me3ce gets you the first dlc which is $10 |
| 05:36.40 | Arrowmaster | while i was at gamestop an employee was asking people if they wanted to purchase the dlc for $10 now too |
| 05:36.59 | pompy | yeah its day one dlc |
| 05:37.12 | Arrowmaster | but not on disc |
| 05:37.19 | pompy | nope |
| 05:37.31 | pompy | it'll be on xbl though |
| 05:37.34 | pompy | more than likely |
| 05:37.39 | pompy | if all ges well |
| 05:37.40 | pompy | goes* |
| 05:37.45 | Arrowmaster | http://kotaku.com/5890630/capcom-addresses-on+disc-dlc-controversy |
| 05:37.52 | Arrowmaster | capcom = fuck twats |
| 05:39.11 | pompy | Arrowmaster: la noire did that right? |
| 05:39.17 | Arrowmaster | dont know |
| 05:39.28 | Arrowmaster | la noire had a lot of preorder bonuses |
| 05:39.37 | Arrowmaster | maybe thats what you are thinking of |
| 05:39.58 | Arrowmaster | gears3 did it with the first dlc, the horde command pack |
| 05:40.19 | Arrowmaster | cliffyb can suck a cock |
| 05:40.48 | pompy | ahh http://www.wouldyoukindly.com/l-a-noire-spread-across-three-discs-on-xbox-360-dlc-missions-will-be-seamless/ |
| 05:42.07 | pompy | why exactly is on disc dlc frowned upon? |
| 05:42.17 | Arrowmaster | the me3 dlc controversy was that it was release day and their argument was that after the game is done it takes time to get certified and pressed so they spent time working on dlc that was ready on release day |
| 05:43.08 | Arrowmaster | this capcom situation basically says that they got done with the extra characters then sent the game off to be certified and pressed but content they finished before release is going to be on the disc but you cant use it unless you pay them even more |
| 05:44.28 | Arrowmaster | they use the excuse that its for 'compatibility' so people dont have to download a patch to see the new characters and skins if they dont buy it but it doesnt change the fact its finished content certified to be on the release disc that you have to pay extra for |
| 05:44.56 | Trela | Basically, bunch of bullshit of why I do not buy many new games. |
| 06:04.21 | Arrowmaster | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiweqN78BVU |
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| 06:10.12 | starlon | milks bluspacecow. |
| 06:11.39 | bluspacecow | *cleans up comics shelf* |
| 06:12.01 | bluspacecow | *finds a portal 2 dvd as well as a chupa chup and a wireless keyboard* |
| 06:12.03 | bluspacecow | O_O |
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| 06:14.02 | starlon | In 2011, California spent $9.6bn on prisons, and 5.7bn on higher education. You're doing it right. |
| 06:14.20 | bluspacecow | for some reason I read that as pistons |
| 06:14.23 | bluspacecow | and was ll like WTF |
| 06:14.27 | starlon | lol |
| 06:17.36 | Arrowmaster | http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2012/03/android-apps-break-50mb-barrier.html |
| 06:17.39 | Arrowmaster | "On most newer devices, when users download your app from Android Market, the expansion files will be downloaded automatically, and the refund period won’t start until the expansion files are downloaded." |
| 06:17.43 | Arrowmaster | yay |
| 06:19.09 | starlon | lol 4gb app |
| 06:19.27 | starlon | Games ahoy |
| 06:19.32 | starlon | :\ |
| 06:28.35 | Arrowmaster | http://io9.com/5890410/watch-the-simpsons-game-of-thrones-intro |
| 06:30.01 | Arrowmaster | if you havent seen that already you MUST watch it |
| 06:33.43 | Fisker | old starlon |
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| 06:35.48 | kd3 | wow; finding hardware bugs in major cpus |
| 06:36.01 | starlon | I object to you calling me old, Fisker. |
| 06:36.05 | starlon | O |
| 06:36.26 | Fisker | cpu's are pretty minor kd3 |
| 06:36.35 | kd3 | http://article.gmane.org/gmane.os.dragonfly-bsd.kernel/14518 |
| 06:37.13 | pompy | i finally opened Minecraft PE on my Android phone and i couldnt figure out what to do! lol |
| 06:37.37 | starlon | Stick to angry birds. |
| 06:37.48 | starlon | :\ |
| 06:38.06 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/HhmSy.png <-was worth it for me |
| 06:38.30 | durcyn | you're ten years late on pinnacle station |
| 06:38.37 | Fisker | nope durcyn |
| 06:38.56 | kd3 | whuh? |
| 06:39.56 | Fisker | mad kd3 ? |
| 06:40.11 | kd3 | surprised a bit |
| 06:40.25 | kd3 | has abstained from buying anything that requires origin, let alone installing it |
| 06:42.04 | Fisker | me too kd3 |
| 06:43.02 | Fisker | i don't want to work today kd3 |
| 06:43.15 | kd3 | neither do I. luckily, I'm not scheduled |
| 06:43.46 | Fisker | :( |
| 06:43.51 | Fisker | i want to stay home and play ME3 |
| 06:46.35 | Fisker | maybe i should blow up work |
| 06:48.49 | pompy | Fisker: thats your order summary? |
| 06:48.58 | Fisker | yes? |
| 06:49.34 | pompy | howd you get the discount :O |
| 06:49.49 | starlon | Yay, there's a firmware upgrade for my tablet. :D And the instructions are in Chinese! :\ |
| 06:49.57 | Fisker | mad starlon ? |
| 06:50.04 | Fisker | i'm just that awesome pompy |
| 06:50.08 | starlon | It's your falt, Fisker. |
| 06:50.15 | starlon | s/falt/fault/ |
| 06:50.25 | pompy | and bioware points? whats that lol |
| 06:51.01 | Fisker | like microsoft points |
| 06:51.04 | Fisker | or steam wallet |
| 06:51.14 | Fisker | bye |
| 06:52.24 | pompy | is pinnacle station day 1 dlc? |
| 06:53.10 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 06:53.15 | Arrowmaster | thats mass effect 1 dlc |
| 06:53.30 | Arrowmaster | the me3 day one dlc is 'from dust' i think |
| 06:54.49 | durcyn | from ashes. |
| 06:55.27 | starlon | sicks a sloth after Fisker. Run, boy! |
| 06:56.19 | starlon | yep.avi |
| 07:02.18 | pompy | How come mass effect 1/2 dlc isnt on steam? Strictly only bought from bioware? |
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| 07:06.12 | starlon | don't you just love it when your download slowly slows down? It's 300+KB/s, then 200, then 180, then 130, then 80, then 50. |
| 07:07.13 | durcyn | because EA doesn't want to give Valve a cut of DLC sales |
| 07:07.38 | starlon | then 70, then 80, then 90, then 50. |
| 07:08.31 | Corrodias | that's the defining reason, yep |
| 07:09.43 | durcyn | which is why ME2 DLC is distributed as 5.9GiB of executables instead something useul |
| 07:09.46 | durcyn | useful* |
| 07:10.14 | starlon | Need to stop calling DSL broadband. |
| 07:10.34 | Corrodias | no, you need a new term for faster things |
| 07:10.44 | Corrodias | even 512k is a hell of a lot faster than 53k. |
| 07:10.45 | pompy | well the downloadable content screen in the pc game is like blank... maybe because it only shows what you have installed, not what is available. hm. |
| 07:10.46 | Arrowmaster | wideband |
| 07:10.49 | starlon | lol |
| 07:11.03 | durcyn | pompy: it's brain-dead without Origin. Welcome to the future. The future sucks. |
| 07:11.06 | Arrowmaster | im not joking, thats what roadrunner calls their top tier service |
| 07:11.16 | starlon | heh |
| 07:11.39 | durcyn | isn't it an industry term for DOCSIS 3.0? because that's what the 30/3 and 50/5 RR packages are |
| 07:11.40 | Arrowmaster | pompy: come to the dark side, buy an xbox |
| 07:12.20 | Corrodias | if and when i play me3, it may very well be the box version. or not. |
| 07:17.05 | bluspacecow | audting my comics |
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| 07:17.11 | bluspacecow | duplicates |
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| 07:21.56 | pompy | Arrowmaster: hm? you know i have one lol. |
| 07:23.16 | Arrowmaster | i forgot |
| 07:23.29 | bluspacecow | weird |
| 07:23.42 | bluspacecow | i mentally added a hyphen between each of those words arrow |
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| 07:28.12 | pompy | Arrowmaster: havent turned it on in a couple weeks thugh |
| 07:28.20 | pompy | im slackin |
| 07:28.52 | Arrowmaster | me too |
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| 07:36.03 | starlon | extracts upgrade zip on Windows PC, then the virus protection screams. |
| 07:36.10 | starlon | Damn Chinese made tablets. |
| 07:36.53 | starlon | The tablet's probably a trojan itself. |
| 07:37.19 | pompy | haha |
| 07:37.20 | starlon | It came already rooted for example. |
| 07:40.33 | Corrodias | the idea of buying a computer i can't put software on myself is ... crazy |
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| 07:50.32 | pompy | Arrowmaster: http://www.amazon.com/Assassins-Creed-III-Xbox-360/dp/B0079NGSIY/ref=sr_1_1_title_0?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1331020192&sr=1-1 |
| 07:51.23 | pompy | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:51.26 | pompy | hm |
| 07:51.29 | bluspacecow | …. |
| 07:51.33 | Arrowmaster | i picked up the free steelbook case at gamestop |
| 07:51.39 | bluspacecow | my comics shelf has extra room on it now |
| 07:51.57 | bluspacecow | it's now only 42% full rather then 98% full as it was |
| 07:52.10 | pompy | if i go to my gamestp tomorrow will they have it? |
| 07:52.51 | pompy | so u already placed ur preorder? |
| 07:53.42 | pompy | Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #5 in Video Games ... lol crazy. |
| 07:53.59 | Arrowmaster | yeah placed the preorder while i picked up me3 |
| 07:54.35 | pompy | lotta ppl there at midnight? |
| 07:55.11 | Arrowmaster | yeah they had us wait outside |
| 07:55.13 | pompy | so if i place the preorder at gamestop and get the free steelbook... if i cancel the preorder (which i probably will) can i keep the steelbook!? lol. |
| 07:55.25 | Arrowmaster | yeah you should be able to |
| 07:55.40 | Arrowmaster | i stood outside and watched half of being human on my phone |
| 07:55.48 | Arrowmaster | it was cold |
| 08:00.44 | Corrodias | order the PC version and get... jack shit. oh but we'll drm it up for ya. |
| 08:00.50 | pompy | I'm a sucker for MLB ggames, had 4 mins left to preorder MLB2k12 bc it comes out 3/6 ... says free release date delivery on the page, but at checkout didnt have that option |
| 08:00.52 | pompy | hmmm |
| 08:01.01 | pompy | time to live chat a supprt person |
| 08:11.12 | pompy | Sigh, this guy |
| 08:12.25 | pompy | "Thanks for waiting. I've checked the details. I see that release date delivery is currently not available for the item. I'm really sorry about this." |
| 08:12.43 | pompy | yeah, AFTER the pre release day. however i placed a preorder! |
| 08:14.14 | pompy | "Suraj:I'm sorry, before you placed the order the option might have been removed. As a one time exception as you were trying to place the order when it showed on the item detail page as release date delivery available. I'll upgrade the shipping method to one day which is the fastest available and will waive off the charges." |
| 08:19.43 | Cairenn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOv-2HzNPaA |
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| 08:20.04 | bluspacecow | :| |
| 08:20.18 | bluspacecow | anyone else's art.mpq file showing up as empty in MPQ editor ? |
| 08:24.43 | pompy | Shipment #1: Shipping Soon  ... Delivery estimate:April 3, 2012 ... Shipping Speed: One-Day Shipping |
| 08:24.45 | pompy | silly Amazon |
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| 08:30.25 | starlon | lol |
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| 08:30.42 | zenzio | "phpMyAdmin: lol I see you're set a LIMIT in your SQL, but I'm going to ignore that and use my own instead LOL!" (yes, I know...) |
| 08:30.49 | zenzio | *you've |
| 08:31.47 | starlon | bomb it with flames |
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| 08:45.33 | starlon | Someone use the power of the Sun to fix my app's bug. Now. |
| 08:46.05 | starlon | Makes no sense. |
| 08:49.07 | pompy | ~wowalert |
| 08:49.07 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 08:49.28 | pompy | 1am |
| 08:49.38 | pompy | on a non patch day! |
| 08:50.55 | starlon | Hotness - http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/07/ostrich-pillow-lets-you-sleep-at-your-desk/ |
| 08:51.11 | bluspacecow | lol just wondering about that too pompy |
| 08:52.18 | pompy | i didnt ffinish my dailies! |
| 08:52.20 | pompy | damn them ;p |
| 08:55.08 | Elkano | pompy, they are preparing for D3 release... you heared it here, first... ;) |
| 08:55.28 | pompy | haha |
| 08:56.08 | pompy | early/late work day for the technicians or regular devs i guess |
| 08:56.15 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:56.30 | bluspacecow | anyone know where I can get a list of IP addresses for the SEA SC2 servers ? |
| 09:01.32 | bluspacecow | @pompy none of my blizzard contacts are up right now. or in Europe on holiday lolz |
| 09:02.03 | ccox | nice early warning (had a BG cut short) |
| 09:03.15 | pompy | hopefully something's planned since they took em down 2-4 hrs earlier than usual' |
| 09:03.35 | bluspacecow | they might bring it up earlier! |
| 09:03.45 | pompy | nope says 11am pdt |
| 09:03.59 | pompy | pst* |
| 09:04.21 | bluspacecow | and they've had maitence days in the past where they've brought the servers up a few hours early |
| 09:04.30 | pompy | yup |
| 09:04.32 | pompy | thts true |
| 09:05.07 | bluspacecow | thats what i'm saying |
| 09:05.21 | bluspacecow | maybe they're implementing new but aren't totally sure how long it will take |
| 09:17.52 | karl_w_w | bluspacecow have i done my dailies yet today? |
| 09:18.03 | bluspacecow | dunno |
| 09:18.33 | karl_w_w | i dont think i did |
| 09:18.56 | karl_w_w | now it's maintenance, and it'll be tomorrow before the realms come back up |
| 09:21.02 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 09:25.13 | bluspacecow | isn't there a way with the battle.net website API to output a list of quest IDs you've done? |
| 09:25.21 | bluspacecow | wonder how that works for daily quests ... |
| 09:25.31 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:26.09 | mckenziemc | resets bluspacecow's entire quest-completion data. |
| 09:26.14 | bluspacecow | XD |
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| 09:29.03 | airtonix | are you mad yet Fisker? |
| 09:29.57 | mckenziemc | are you Fisker yet airtonix? |
| 09:30.29 | airtonix | are you airtonix yet mckenziemc? |
| 09:30.36 | mckenziemc | no, thank god |
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| 09:32.04 | karl_w_w | how does that make you feel, airtonix? |
| 09:32.25 | airtonix | i think he is a god fearing ludite |
| 09:32.31 | sintAcks | hey |
| 09:32.32 | sintAcks | hey you |
| 09:32.42 | sintAcks | yes, you |
| 09:32.45 | sintAcks | i hate you |
| 09:32.47 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 09:32.47 | sintAcks | walks away |
| 09:33.02 | sintAcks | <3 |
| 09:33.20 | bluspacecow | XD |
| 09:33.24 | bluspacecow | soz karl_w_w |
| 09:33.32 | bluspacecow | can't find the thread in which the method was given |
| 09:33.33 | airtonix | bluspacecow: you should be a goat |
| 09:33.41 | bluspacecow | Ba-a-a-a-a |
| 09:33.54 | airtonix | a lebanonese goat |
| 09:34.26 | bluspacecow | http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/icwhutudidtherep1.gif |
| 09:35.02 | airtonix | nice family you have there |
| 09:35.11 | bluspacecow | thank you ! |
| 09:35.37 | karl_w_w | Libby is a real looker |
| 09:44.30 | starlon | Medusa's a real looker. |
| 09:45.15 | airtonix | your face is |
| 09:48.04 | Kalroth | airtonix is a real fooker |
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| 09:50.49 | karl_w_w | Kalroth is a real hooker |
| 09:52.02 | Kalroth | karl is a real rooker |
| 09:52.08 | airtonix | ok |
| 09:52.20 | airtonix | i'm making sense of that |
| 09:52.33 | Kalroth | airtonix: where's my money!! |
| 09:52.40 | airtonix | deep in your |
| 09:52.48 | Cairenn | ... |
| 09:53.19 | Kalroth | uh oh |
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| 10:04.00 | bluspacecow | http://www.lamebook.com/potter-parents/ |
| 10:04.58 | airtonix | bluspacecow: is that safe for work? |
| 10:05.04 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 10:05.13 | airtonix | i mean you could at least have the decency to say something bluspacecow |
| 10:05.45 | airtonix | maybe it was my fault for assuming you were a law abiding and decent citizen |
| 10:10.05 | bluspacecow | ... |
| 10:10.09 | bluspacecow | soz |
| 10:10.12 | bluspacecow | yes it is ! |
| 10:10.17 | bluspacecow | mean but safe! |
| 10:18.03 | Jammer | anyone here know what the blue bar in Blood Shield Tracker is? |
| 10:23.31 | airtonix | a mana bar |
| 10:23.49 | airtonix | btw |
| 10:23.59 | airtonix | what is Blood Shield Tracker? |
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| 10:27.28 | starlon | sup dogs |
| 10:28.01 | starlon | let's get cyber-stoned. |
| 10:28.25 | starlon | puffs a mountain of data. |
| 10:29.08 | starlon | This ain't no dirty data. :\ |
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| 10:39.48 | starlon | http://gizmodo.com/5890507/police-drone-crashes-into-police |
| 10:39.55 | starlon | lol |
| 10:42.25 | bluspacecow | gym tiems |
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| 10:49.41 | airtonix | starlon: i was laughing on the inside |
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| 10:51.21 | karl_w_w | Jammer: what does this blue bar do? |
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| 10:55.54 | airtonix | karl_w_w: it does gone be blue |
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| 11:05.17 | karl_w_w | that's what I thought airtonix |
| 11:05.29 | starlon | o.O |
| 11:07.42 | Jammer | karl_w_w: been trying to figure that out |
| 11:09.01 | Jammer | got white bar for pw: shield and pink bar for illuminated healing |
| 11:09.18 | Jammer | but not really sure what other absorb effect there could be |
| 11:09.30 | karl_w_w | when does it appear? |
| 11:09.40 | Jammer | it's constantly there |
| 11:09.46 | Jammer | just sitting at 0 doing nothing :p |
| 11:10.17 | Jammer | was thinking it could be shaman's hp buff thing |
| 11:10.26 | Jammer | but had shaman heal and it still didn't effect the bar at all |
| 11:10.51 | karl_w_w | type /fstack |
| 11:11.00 | karl_w_w | and hover over the bar and see what it says |
| 11:11.01 | karl_w_w | :P |
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| 11:11.50 | Jammer | oh it's a healthbar |
| 11:12.00 | Jammer | guess I found a bug then |
| 11:12.05 | Jammer | cause didn't have that thing enabled |
| 11:12.17 | starlon | mmm bugs |
| 11:12.27 | Jammer | karl_w_w: thanks for that :p |
| 11:15.46 | starlon | Wagga Wagga |
| 11:16.05 | starlon | My name is Shizzle Snips. |
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| 11:51.06 | karl_w_w | snips starlon's shizzle |
| 11:51.27 | starlon | :\ |
| 11:51.41 | Aurorus_ | is that even legal!? o.O |
| 11:52.10 | starlon | It's a crime against humanity. |
| 11:56.14 | Aurorus_ | even if it's just the tip? |
| 12:04.09 | starlon | :\ |
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| 12:21.22 | airtonix | the it's just fo shizzle |
| 12:21.39 | starlon | fo cheezy |
| 12:21.48 | airtonix | umadbro? |
| 12:22.03 | starlon | you caused my compile to fail |
| 12:22.19 | airtonix | mission accomplished |
| 12:22.50 | airtonix | what were you compiling? windows 8? |
| 12:22.57 | airtonix | iOS 7? |
| 12:22.59 | starlon | FroyVisuals |
| 12:23.05 | airtonix | buzzkill |
| 12:23.07 | starlon | Small sauce |
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| 12:31.50 | karl_w_w | i once compiled a froy |
| 12:33.07 | starlon | it completes me |
| 12:33.20 | starlon | except when I get undefined references |
| 12:39.29 | karl_w_w | i need to buy a new mouse, simple, corded, laser, 2 side buttons by the thumb, any suggestions? |
| 12:41.39 | mitch0 | mx518 |
| 12:42.11 | mitch0 | or the g400, although it works best only on windows |
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| 12:42.52 | karl_w_w | they're both optical :P |
| 12:42.53 | mitch0 | (unless you like the two upper buttons to change the dpi setting) |
| 12:43.00 | mitch0 | ah |
| 12:43.07 | mitch0 | well, laser is optical too :) |
| 12:43.16 | mitch0 | why do you need laser? |
| 12:44.41 | Maldivia | ahh... Russian election at its best: http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2012/03/06/putin-s-chechnya-turnout-107-percent.html |
| 12:44.57 | Jammer | is there noticeable difference between regular optical and laser mice? |
| 12:45.03 | Jammer | other than the fact laser works on more surfaces |
| 12:45.58 | Jammer | karl_w_w: G500 is kinda similar and laser |
| 12:49.20 | karl_w_w | i find opticals sometimes go a bit crazy if u travel over a hair or any imperfection |
| 12:49.27 | karl_w_w | never had that problem with lasers |
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| 12:50.05 | Kalroth | mx518 ftw |
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| 12:57.26 | starlon | karl_w_w: tell your cat to keep his hair to himself |
| 12:57.51 | starlon | and fix my issues. all of them. |
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| 13:15.40 | alestane | Heya, Lopeppeppy. |
| 13:16.12 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, dear. |
| 13:18.43 | zenzio | ohai |
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| 13:29.15 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, zenzio. |
| 13:32.43 | starlon | imad |
| 13:35.28 | Fisker | <3 open source |
| 13:35.48 | Fisker | Want to convert png to PDF? |
| 13:35.59 | Fisker | Only 99€ |
| 13:36.55 | Fisker | *downloads imagemagick and does it for free* |
| 13:39.23 | mitch0 | fisker: lame |
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| 14:02.36 | zenzio | http://i.qkme.me/36govy.jpg |
| 14:10.16 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet. I live with these types of psychos. http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Documents-detail-arrest-of-man-who-threatened-3382888.php |
| 14:16.37 | alestane | Lovely. |
| 14:16.59 | bluspacecow | oh hai Miss Peppy |
| 14:17.41 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, blueberry! |
| 14:17.53 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, that's nothing compared to yesterday's failure at being a human being. |
| 14:18.02 | alestane | Oh dear. |
| 14:18.35 | bluspacecow | yes |
| 14:18.39 | bluspacecow | tis was me |
| 14:18.48 | bluspacecow | for i am a goat not a human being! |
| 14:18.51 | Lopeppeppy | Not safe for anyone who hates easily: http://poststar.com/news/local/updated-glens-falls-police-make-arrest-in-assault-of-/article_0c59e59c-665b-11e1-ac69-001871e3ce6c.html |
| 14:19.15 | bluspacecow | http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/icwhutudidtherep1.gif <-------------------- me Peppy |
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| 14:20.18 | Lopeppeppy | That's a creepy damn llama-dude-thing. |
| 14:21.32 | bluspacecow | wait |
| 14:21.38 | bluspacecow | thats a llama ? |
| 14:21.45 | bluspacecow | i thought it was a goat :_: |
| 14:22.01 | Lopeppeppy | Llama? Alpaca? I can't tell just from the head. I don't think it's a goat. |
| 14:22.08 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 14:22.13 | Lopeppeppy | The neck is very long for a goat. |
| 14:22.21 | bluspacecow | u shatter my petty illusions |
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| 14:23.29 | Lopeppeppy | Sorry sweetie, learn to discern your animals! |
| 14:24.22 | bluspacecow | Ba ba ba goes the cow |
| 14:29.40 | alestane | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yuiq8MmFrw <- goats |
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| 14:31.24 | alestane | Goats are also famous for their eyes, which look more like they belong to some cephalopod: http://www.flickr.com/photos/laurie_pink/537205284/ |
| 14:32.38 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 14:32.41 | bluspacecow | it's a demon! |
| 14:40.29 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrqMXdSQQug so that's how they do it |
| 14:43.17 | mikma | karl_w_w: now you know when you're chaining up your boyfriend/husband |
| 14:43.48 | karl_w_w | that's right |
| 14:44.22 | karl_w_w | "Police said the investigation was ongoing Monday" so it's some kind of investigation into perpetual Monday? |
| 14:44.24 | Lopeppeppy | Chains are so cold. Use a nice bamboo silk rope. |
| 14:48.11 | mikma | after that, a nice bamboo |
| 14:49.23 | karl_w_w | "I don't always tie men up, but when I do I use bamboo silk rope" |
| 14:50.59 | karl_w_w | Update - We just received the following message from Blizzard - "Soon we fly together againÂ…" <- what's that all about? |
| 14:51.11 | mikma | drugs |
| 14:51.46 | karl_w_w | oh wow and rift is 1 year old already |
| 14:52.03 | karl_w_w | hard to believe WoW has been dead for a whole year |
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| 15:22.44 | sylvanaar_work | (cough) one? |
| 15:23.45 | bluspacecow | interesting |
| 15:23.52 | bluspacecow | it's 7.30 PST |
| 15:23.57 | bluspacecow | and the realms seem to be back up |
| 15:24.06 | bluspacecow | (US ones that is) |
| 15:26.56 | karl_w_w | oh so i might get to do my dailies after all |
| 15:28.36 | bluspacecow | TOO SOON! THE REALMS ARE UP TOO SOON! |
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| 16:51.54 | Lunessa | Hello ladies. |
| 16:53.03 | nicoli_s | morning |
| 16:53.21 | Kaisoul | Hello ^_^ |
| 16:54.11 | Kraps_w | look at this chat |
| 16:54.16 | Kraps_w | now back to me |
| 16:54.34 | Kaisoul | Gotta love trying to absorb getting started with addon coding from the ground up while waiting for servers to go live |
| 16:55.09 | Maldivia | Kraps_w: sorry, you're no Isaiah |
| 16:55.16 | Lunessa | I spoof the Old Spice Guy commercials for guild recruitment: http://www.groundingtotem.com/pages/news/237785-hello-ladies |
| 16:55.44 | Kraps_w | aww mal why you gotta be so harsh :( |
| 16:56.00 | Lunessa | Because crushing dreams generates the tears which fuel him. |
| 16:56.38 | Kaisoul | cute link |
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| 16:58.24 | Maldivia | Lunessa: not that unique in this channel :P |
| 16:58.40 | Lunessa | Maldivia: I know, I need those tears too. |
| 16:58.44 | nicoli_s | man i havent seen wowstead in ages |
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| 17:00.04 | Lunessa | Curse guys hooked me up when WoWstead was accquired by them. Between Cog, Mrs. Cog, and my collecting the giveaway codes for free hosting, curse basically gave me the site for free (well… until the end of April anyway). |
| 17:00.36 | Lunessa | So, I'm pretty appreciative since it means I didn't have to build anything myself. |
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| 17:02.40 | Kaisoul | Got a total newb question. How does one go about making the visual part of addons (don't even know a free program to start with :p ) |
| 17:03.00 | Kaisoul | so far that's the mess that's driving me up a wall lol |
| 17:03.10 | Lunessa | You mean graphics? |
| 17:03.14 | Kaisoul | yup |
| 17:03.26 | Maldivia | Kaisoul: you can reuse all the graphics that's used in the default UI |
| 17:03.45 | Kaisoul | true but the how to part |
| 17:03.49 | Lunessa | and if you want to craft your own: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=15439 |
| 17:03.55 | Kaisoul | ty |
| 17:04.02 | Kaisoul | well read that one |
| 17:04.05 | Kaisoul | will read* |
| 17:04.56 | Maldivia | but for the most part, the default textures will work just fine |
| 17:06.10 | Lunessa | Yeah, the default art is good, comprehensive and requires next to no effort on your part. |
| 17:06.51 | Lunessa | And the AddOn Kit is at http://us.battle.net/support/en/article/download-the-world-of-warcraft-interface-addon-kit;jsessionid=099A55717E747B38C42DFB2C8516FA95.blade35_08_bnet-support |
| 17:07.07 | Lunessa | Bah, stupid session id |
| 17:07.20 | Lunessa | http://us.battle.net/support/en/article/download-the-world-of-warcraft-interface-addon-kit |
| 17:07.40 | Maldivia | ~framexml |
| 17:07.40 | purl | i heard framexml is Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 17:12.17 | Kaisoul | hmm interesting ^_^ this should help keep me busy for a while hehe |
| 17:13.29 | Lunessa | You should also bookmark Programming in Lua. |
| 17:13.32 | Lunessa | ~PIL |
| 17:13.32 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 17:16.53 | Arrowmaster | damn went to check bestbuy, no ME3 CE's, get home and check newegg and they removed the ME3 CE from my cart and are now out of stock |
| 17:17.50 | Kaisoul | well i know it's taboo but there is always a chance it might be on origin store |
| 17:18.00 | Arrowmaster | not buying for pc |
| 17:18.08 | Kaisoul | ahh |
| 17:18.11 | Arrowmaster | and ill never purchase from origin anyway |
| 17:18.22 | Kaisoul | eh i never had a problem with em |
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| 17:19.57 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck amazon |
| 17:20.11 | Arrowmaster | yesterday you say its out of stock and now that the game has been released you magically have stock |
| 17:20.11 | Kaisoul | i take it no luck there |
| 17:20.21 | Kaisoul | O_O wow |
| 17:20.41 | Arrowmaster | amazon was one of the first to take it down for not having enough stock |
| 17:24.56 | Ackis | http://www.break.com/index/crazy-couple-prank-eachother-while-sleeping.html (NSFW language) |
| 17:27.05 | Kaisoul | O_o ok that was nuts |
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| 17:27.39 | Lopeppeppy | Nice ad, Lunessa. |
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| 17:31.40 | Lunessa | :D |
| 17:33.18 | pompy | http://gamerant.com/valve-console-controller-hold-137072/ |
| 17:34.22 | Arrowmaster | im cleaning up the place i store preorder receipts finding some really old stuff |
| 17:38.51 | Arrowmaster | i found my original receipt for guitar hero 3 bundle and burnout paradise |
| 17:39.49 | Arrowmaster | and then the receipt for when i got the guitar hero 3 bundle replaced for a new one and made money doing it |
| 17:48.55 | Lunessa | http://www.verumserum.com/?p=38867 - LuLzSec guys busted. |
| 17:50.07 | Arrowmaster | already read it on not one but two rss feeds, can i say old yet? |
| 17:50.27 | Lunessa | Sure, Old. It's so 4 hours ago. |
| 17:54.06 | Lopeppeppy | I hadn't read it yet, thanks Lunessa. |
| 17:54.47 | Kaisoul | ^_^ looks like there is a some what updated version of addon studio |
| 17:55.10 | Lunessa | Kaisoul: If you're trying to learn, please, do not use AddOn Studio. |
| 17:56.18 | Kaisoul | :( awww i understand every thing about the addons save the concept of creation of frames/buttons. |
| 17:56.34 | foxlit | brave words. |
| 17:56.36 | Kaisoul | just won't click in my head for some reason |
| 17:57.06 | Lopeppeppy | Then honest and for true - learn that aspect. 'cause Addon Studio doesn't teach you anything, it takes your code and makes you an inedible pastrami on french toast sandwich with horseradish and coconut sauce. |
| 17:57.27 | Kaisoul | lol |
| 17:58.09 | foxlit | Lopeppeppy: but surely using blobs for UI is fine? :P |
| 17:58.21 | Thunder_Child | there are people that would eat that right up |
| 17:58.43 | foxlit | You could probably draw everything out in AS, specify reasonable names, and hook up your event handlers. |
| 17:59.07 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: I'll pay you $50 to eat that exact sandwich with viedo uploaded to YouTube. |
| 18:00.41 | Kaisoul | hehe pepto+said sandwich=maybe $20 getting Lunessa to cough up $50 priceless |
| 18:01.18 | Lunessa | HORSERADISH AND COCONUT SAUCE… On Pastrami on French Toast. |
| 18:01.37 | Lopeppeppy | Not seeing anyone jumping at the offer, Lunessa. Did you think my description was accurate, by the by? |
| 18:01.38 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa: fuck that, i never said i would ead the damn thing. |
| 18:01.47 | Thunder_Child | s/ead/ear/ |
| 18:01.49 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 18:01.50 | Thunder_Child | eat* |
| 18:01.51 | Kaisoul | my friend ate a golf ball sized piece of wasabi for $20 bucks |
| 18:01.52 | Lunessa | #winning |
| 18:02.23 | Lunessa | Kaisoul: He didn't hold out for more cash? I mean, I'd have held out for $50 and a bottle of sake. |
| 18:02.54 | Kaisoul | he needed quick cash to make it to work so he could feed his kids |
| 18:03.06 | Dagmar | ...and to buy that extra TP. |
| 18:03.44 | Lunessa | I once got my brother to eat two bowls of grits (we HATE grits) for a Sega game (back in the day when Sega games were new and cutting edge). |
| 18:03.53 | Kaisoul | lol |
| 18:04.11 | Lunessa | I think it was Vector Man. |
| 18:04.18 | Kraps_w | Lunessa: that recruiting thing is pro |
| 18:04.21 | Lunessa | And it was worth every penny I paid for that game. |
| 18:04.32 | Lunessa | Kraps_w: Thanks. |
| 18:04.57 | Kaisoul | think my one memorable idiot moment was to drink a double shot of home made moonshine for $10 bucks |
| 18:05.26 | Lopeppeppy | Never, ever touch home-made hooch. Wine, brandy, cordial - yes. |
| 18:05.33 | Lopeppeppy | Moonshine? That will rot your eyeballs out. |
| 18:05.42 | Kaisoul | crap was well over 100% proof |
| 18:05.55 | Kaisoul | think more in the 130% range |
| 18:06.24 | foxlit | "The term was originally used in the United Kingdom and was defined as 7/4 times the alcohol by volume (ABV)." |
| 18:06.27 | alestane | 100 proof, or 100% alcohol? They are different. |
| 18:06.29 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. Rot your eyeballs. |
| 18:06.46 | Lunessa | Hey, Esamynn|Away lost a bet at blizzcon and had to do shots. He got SO drunk we practically had to carry him to the elevator. |
| 18:07.10 | Arrowmaster | when was this? |
| 18:07.15 | Arrowmaster | and why do i not remember it |
| 18:07.24 | Kaisoul | let's just say had to hold my throught to swallow |
| 18:07.30 | Lopeppeppy | Why does nobody invite me to these parties! *laugh* |
| 18:08.11 | alestane | We always try to get you to come to the parties, Peppy. |
| 18:08.45 | foxlit | "Alcohol proof in the United States is defined as twice the percentage of alcohol by volume." |
| 18:09.35 | foxlit | I guess multiplying by 7/4 was too hard. |
| 18:10.59 | alestane | 100 proof is 50% by volume, yes. |
| 18:11.31 | Kraps_w | ohhh blizzard had layoffs? |
| 18:11.55 | Kaisoul | yea 600 people |
| 18:12.54 | Kraps_w | people getting mad |
| 18:13.22 | Kaisoul | well considering all the subs they lost and the merger not a complete surprise |
| 18:13.57 | Kaisoul | ack wife is trying to kill me with cold air.... |
| 18:15.07 | Lopeppeppy | cold air is very serious business |
| 18:15.35 | Kaisoul | she loves cold air i love not being cold |
| 18:15.40 | Kaisoul | go figure :p |
| 18:16.58 | ccox | Blizzcon? You mean NonCon? GoneCon? |
| 18:17.23 | Kraps_w | more like FAILcon lololololo |
| 18:20.52 | Lunessa | Cairenn|afk, Seerah, Lopeppeppy and Ackis http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6lA7u6fTXw8#! |
| 18:22.11 | Lopeppeppy | I got some puppy therapy today, very cute little guy. |
| 18:23.01 | Kraps_w | why not start with ghostcrawler? most likely the most over paid worker at blizz and the least capable of leadership of your company |
| 18:23.09 | Kraps_w | level 1 mage |
| 18:23.17 | Lopeppeppy | Monkey learned real quick that running to the dog is "safe" |
| 18:24.54 | karl_w_w | https://www.warcom.com.au/support/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Article/View/7/3/delivery-issues customer service at it's best |
| 18:26.34 | Kraps_w | so i started me3 |
| 18:26.42 | Lunessa | karl_w_w: No one likes to eat a heaping bowl of truth. |
| 18:27.17 | Kraps_w | i used to like ashley |
| 18:29.42 | Lopeppeppy | Truth was delivered there, that's for sure. |
| 18:39.33 | alestane | http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2003/09/01 |
| 18:39.35 | syrae | Kraps_w: how does it play overall? |
| 18:39.48 | syrae | And which platform are you on? |
| 18:40.05 | Kraps_w | pc |
| 18:40.28 | Kraps_w | it plays like me2 i guess? |
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| 18:43.10 | Kraps_w | theres now combat rolls and 2 levels of melee attacks |
| 18:46.16 | Kraps_w | upgrading powers is pretty different |
| 18:48.26 | Kraps_w | after the 3rd level the next 3 are choices of 2 |
| 18:48.43 | Kraps_w | 1 of 2 i mean |
| 18:51.38 | durcyn | it plays very similarly to me2, but you get to see seth green get it on with a fembot |
| 18:52.29 | Kraps_w | spoilers you jerk |
| 18:52.34 | Kraps_w | dammit |
| 18:52.43 | durcyn | everyone dies |
| 18:52.48 | durcyn | reapers are made of candy |
| 18:52.52 | amro | they're all clones |
| 18:53.00 | durcyn | it's actually purgatory |
| 18:53.02 | amro | he's his own brother |
| 18:53.06 | durcyn | shepard was dreaming |
| 18:53.29 | Kraps_w | which shepard, the guy or the girl? |
| 18:53.43 | amro | the girl is her own brother |
| 18:53.57 | Kraps_w | oh i see |
| 18:54.55 | Lopeppeppy | the genetics are complicated |
| 18:54.56 | haste | 1952.37| durcyn | shepard was dreaming |
| 18:55.07 | haste | everytime I see that one, I get flashbacks from completing super mario bros. 2 |
| 18:55.33 | amro | oh hey someone else remembers that game |
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| 18:57.36 | durcyn | i was referencing Dallas, but SubCon is just as well |
| 18:58.16 | haste | dallas :3 ? |
| 18:58.56 | durcyn | the 80s television show, it went on for years, but they ended it by having the entire story be one of the characters dreams |
| 19:00.08 | haste | too young for that one |
| 19:00.44 | haste | oh wow, it actually aired on Norway, in 1992 :D |
| 19:01.05 | haste | but only parts of a season |
| 19:03.13 | Adys | http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/03/introducing-google-play-all-your.html |
| 19:03.16 | Adys | anyone linked that yet? |
| 19:03.29 | Lopeppeppy | Too young for Dallas. |
| 19:03.38 | Lopeppeppy | cries on alestane's shoulder |
| 19:03.47 | Dagmar | Play all your 503's? |
| 19:04.13 | alestane | commiserates with Peppy. |
| 19:04.29 | Dagmar | Mainly I'm too busy trying to UNCLUSTERFUCK my Google Music database |
| 19:05.04 | Dagmar | ICS did something weird where they decided to change the way they stored the path |
| 19:05.09 | Lopeppeppy | I'm too old for Google Music. |
| 19:05.27 | Dagmar | So... the thing knows I have a lot of mp3s, will show me cover art and so on, won't fucking admit the files exist to play them. |
| 19:05.42 | kd3 | oops |
| 19:05.45 | Dagmar | I have to remove them all from the sdcard, purge the DB, and then maybe put them all back over USB. |
| 19:09.53 | Dagmar | torl: Your problem is one of literacy. |
| 19:10.37 | haste | Lopeppeppy: helps not living in USA as well P: |
| 19:12.16 | Lopeppeppy | Still, you make me cry little old lady tears. |
| 19:12.42 | haste | :( |
| 19:15.13 | Kaisoul | well servers are live so i'll see every one later ^_^ |
| 19:16.21 | Zasurus | Is there a way to generate a CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM using an addon? Or is it ONLY WoW that can generate them? |
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| 19:18.51 | haste | you can "generate" them, but I'd recommend against doing it |
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| 19:21.53 | moop | can anyone tell me why the memory usage of this code constantly increases whenever my BLOOD_SHIELD is refreshed/applied until the next garbage collection? http://pastebin.com/hfNHv3S5 |
| 19:22.05 | moop | i.e. what's generating 0.1kb of garbage each time the buff is gained/refresshed |
| 19:24.54 | Zasurus | haste: I don't want to I just wanted to know how reliable they where! ;) do u know d command? I cant seem to find it on http://wowprogramming.com |
| 19:25.14 | foxlit | moop: self:SetScript("OnUpdate", function(self, e) |
| 19:25.41 | haste | Zasurus: you need to iterate all frames, check if the frame has an OnEvent handler, check if it has registered the event, and then call it manually if it does |
| 19:25.42 | moop | that's only called when the frame isn't shown, though |
| 19:26.15 | moop | so how come the memory usage doesn't constantly increase, but only increases when I gain/refresh the buff? |
| 19:26.50 | Zasurus | haste: ok thanks thats fine |
| 19:26.57 | tem | I would guess it's related to the strings you're creating |
| 19:27.19 | tem | strings are interned in Lua, but when you create a new one... |
| 19:27.44 | tem | (where 'new' is one that hasn't been interned yet) |
| 19:28.07 | moop | hmm, is there any way around that? |
| 19:28.11 | tem | no |
| 19:28.17 | tem | if my guess is right, anyway |
| 19:28.19 | haste | "don't generate strings" :D |
| 19:28.32 | foxlit | In fact, replace your addon with an empty file |
| 19:28.36 | foxlit | memory problem solved! |
| 19:28.45 | haste | I wouldn't really worry about it |
| 19:28.50 | moop | so, unit frames which constantly format strings whenever someone's hp or mana changes generate LOADS of garbage? |
| 19:28.58 | tem | honestly, worrying about .1KiB is just plain silly |
| 19:29.10 | foxlit | It's a garbage-collected language. If you're worrying about those amounts of memory, you're doing it wrong. |
| 19:29.14 | moop | well, I'm not too concerned, it's more of a curiosity thing ^^ |
| 19:29.57 | foxlit | also, if your addon description contains the word "lightweight", .... |
| 19:30.03 | haste | :D |
| 19:30.25 | haste | I love it when people list how their add-on uses 0 CPU and memory |
| 19:30.40 | haste | and is super lightweight on Y lines of code |
| 19:31.05 | moop | that's just advertising! :( |
| 19:31.07 | haste | especially since most of the people saying it have no idea at all |
| 19:31.41 | foxlit | haste: "contains no asbestos!" |
| 19:32.31 | Zasurus | runs off to add "contains no asbestos! *" to all of his addons.. :D |
| 19:32.50 | foxlit | If I may suggest so, go for "* Asbestos-free" |
| 19:32.55 | foxlit | a more direct reference :) |
| 19:33.09 | Zasurus | Arr and then you get the word free as well! |
| 19:33.50 | Lopeppeppy | 0 Trans Fat! |
| 19:33.54 | Zasurus | Of course I should add "* made in a factory insulated with nuts..... may contain nuts" |
| 19:34.25 | moop | is there generally no point trying to optimise after you've written an addon, then? :p |
| 19:34.46 | Zasurus | Just buy more ram.. ;) |
| 19:35.38 | moop | i'm not doing it because i'm under the impression that I'll gain 10 FPS by changing 1 line, it's just that I'd rather do things correctly :P |
| 19:35.52 | Zasurus | If ppl complain say they are cheap and to update their pc with the money they DIDN'T donate to you! LOL |
| 19:36.11 | haste | moop: depends on profiling and bottlenecks |
| 19:36.14 | moop | no one's complaining. it's an addon I wrote for myself and have no intentions of releasing - it's just curiosity |
| 19:36.24 | foxlit | Generally, no, there is no point. |
| 19:36.32 | Zasurus | I try to keep mine reasnable but never cut functionality for speed/memory! :D |
| 19:37.05 | foxlit | Unless you start out by writing an application with absolutely horrible performance, you generally won't cut anything meaningful |
| 19:37.26 | Zasurus | Generally I just avoid the biggies like endless loops. |
| 19:37.37 | moop | it's small things like "try to re-use tables instead of re-creating them" that I want to make sure I'm aware of |
| 19:37.50 | moop | rather than doing things blindly :D |
| 19:38.01 | Zasurus | :) |
| 19:38.07 | foxlit | sometimes that makes sense; sometimes it does not. |
| 19:38.52 | moop | whenever I see something like "while true do" in code, I cringe |
| 19:39.12 | Lopeppeppy | SUDO make me some cookies, I'm hungry. |
| 19:39.17 | foxlit | Right, while 1 do is where it's at |
| 19:39.33 | foxlit | true has like three extra characters doing nothing of value. WASTE OF MEMORY! |
| 19:39.41 | haste | repeat until false |
| 19:39.42 | moop | haha |
| 19:39.42 | haste | !!!! |
| 19:39.51 | Dagmar | Password: |
| 19:39.54 | foxlit | haste: mildly annoyed at lack of repeat ... forever |
| 19:40.00 | airtonix | haste: your face uses 0 cpu |
| 19:40.17 | haste | lua> repeat until forever |
| 19:40.27 | lua_bot | haste: Your code exceeded set CPU limits |
| 19:40.30 | foxlit | that's horrible grammar, though |
| 19:40.35 | haste | :D |
| 19:40.36 | airtonix | haste: umad? |
| 19:40.44 | Dagmar | s/do/fork/ for SMP systems. |
| 19:40.48 | haste | airtonix: no, exceeding the CPU limit was my goal |
| 19:40.55 | airtonix | haste: with your face? |
| 19:41.00 | haste | with my code |
| 19:41.05 | Adys | https://play.google.com/apps any idea how to remove apps from there? old apps i dont have installed anymore |
| 19:41.06 | airtonix | you say that now |
| 19:41.16 | haste | that I do |
| 19:41.53 | Dagmar | Adys: afaik you have to do it from the device. |
| 19:42.07 | Adys | Dagmar: but thats the thing, those are apps i long ago uninstalled |
| 19:42.13 | Lopeppeppy | I really, really, really want a working server soon... *frets during upgrades* |
| 19:42.51 | Dagmar | Adys: Same here. |
| 19:43.00 | Adys | i have like 20 different video players from when i was trying them out |
| 19:43.34 | Maldivia | hmm, play is marked renamed? |
| 19:50.10 | moop | I wonder if the author of phoenixstyle is actually going out of their way to obfuscate the code or it's actually written like that naturally... |
| 19:50.32 | Arrowmaster | Adys: worst thing is i have 14 or so apps listed on that page that say purchased that i never purchased |
| 19:50.34 | moop | (http://phoenixstyle.com/go.php?file=PhoenixStyle1.580.zip) |
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| 19:50.58 | kd3 | at&t crapware is shown listed. grr |
| 19:51.17 | Trillonix | Hey people. |
| 19:51.32 | Arrowmaster | kd3: did you end up installing a custom rom? |
| 19:52.19 | kd3 | nah, still using an 'official' cm7 rom. probably going to try 9 soonish |
| 19:52.21 | Maldivia | moop: camel case would make a lot more readable |
| 19:52.38 | Arrowmaster | kd3: i mean any non stock rom |
| 19:52.51 | kd3 | well, yah. I'm using cm7 |
| 19:53.01 | Arrowmaster | kd3: at blizzcon you were still stock right? and could use the att wifi |
| 19:53.07 | kd3 | yah |
| 19:53.13 | Adys | kd3: cm9 released? |
| 19:53.20 | kd3 | no |
| 19:53.22 | Arrowmaster | have you tried any att wifi since putting cm7 on it |
| 19:53.42 | kd3 | yah |
| 19:53.47 | kd3 | works, dunno how |
| 19:53.52 | Arrowmaster | the fuck |
| 19:54.16 | Arrowmaster | and here i thought it was because of some preloaded app |
| 19:54.43 | Trillonix | I've been updating my code from global vars and functions to local ones. When everything was global it seemed it didn't matter where functions were declared, but now that I've made things local I'm running into issues like invalid calls to "global sortThisTable" a nil value. The function is in the file, its just a local function now. I hope that makes sense. Can anyone offer any suggestions? |
| 19:55.17 | foxlit | move the function further up |
| 19:55.25 | Lunessa | ^^ |
| 19:55.28 | kd3 | local variables respect scope. are you trying to call functions before they're defined? |
| 19:55.32 | moop | it has to be defined before it's called |
| 19:55.41 | Trillonix | ok.. I can do that, but why didn't it matter when everything was global? |
| 19:55.54 | Maldivia | because it's global :P |
| 19:55.59 | Lunessa | global cope is globa |
| 19:56.04 | Lunessa | global |
| 19:57.00 | foxlit | the actual explanation involves describing how functions are "declared" in Lua |
| 19:57.03 | Maldivia | to oversimplify, global references are looked up everytime, local is looked up first time only |
| 19:57.06 | Trillonix | ok.. well.. I guess there are lots of little ins and outs between global and locals that I still need to learn |
| 19:57.28 | Trillonix | ah.. ok.. that might answer my question Maldivia |
| 19:58.08 | Trillonix | kd3.. that is what is happening also.. ( to respond to your answer for me ).. |
| 19:58.43 | Trillonix | alright.. well I have some rearranging to do then... thanks people |
| 19:59.12 | Maldivia | Trillonix: you can also simply declare the identifier local in the start of the file |
| 19:59.16 | Maldivia | ok, nevermind then :P |
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| 20:11.02 | Lunessa | proof right there of the statement "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing." |
| 20:11.15 | Lopeppeppy | No wai. |
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| 20:51.12 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:52.09 | Arrowmaster | cant view |
| 20:52.25 | Maldivia | yep, permission denied :P |
| 20:53.53 | Cairenn | check my page, maybe now it'll show |
| 20:53.54 | Cairenn | https://www.facebook.com/Cairenn |
| 20:54.55 | alestane | I can see actual pictures of you through that page, Cairenn. Is that allowed? |
| 20:55.06 | Cairenn | yeah |
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| 20:59.38 | Cairenn | this one works |
| 20:59.39 | Cairenn | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150602109669811&set=a.10150602109319811.392979.749049810&type=3&theater |
| 20:59.59 | Maldivia | ouch |
| 21:00.06 | Lopeppeppy | I would love a few of those to hand out to students around here. |
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| 21:00.48 | Xyphoid | mix it up with http://achewood.com/index.php?date=04152002 |
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| 21:03.49 | Arrowmaster | Lopeppeppy: ive seen the pic before and as the story goes its what somebody got made up using free business card offers from printers |
| 21:04.18 | Adys | "A Java-Based X11 Server Comes To Android" |
| 21:04.23 | Adys | yes thats what x11 need |
| 21:04.25 | Adys | to be coded in java |
| 21:04.51 | Arrowmaster | Adys: kinda confused what it would be used for |
| 21:05.35 | jnwhiteh | Cide: we want a Norweigan Lundehund. Go minion! Go! |
| 21:05.39 | cbreak | you can run X11 apps |
| 21:05.44 | cbreak | like gimp. |
| 21:05.47 | jnwhiteh | mikma: you too |
| 21:06.11 | Lunessa | Cairenn: Parking, the bane of many drivers. |
| 21:06.15 | Maldivia | jnwhiteh: you just want it for its 6 toes... |
| 21:06.17 | Cairenn | heh |
| 21:06.29 | Arrowmaster | cbreak: now i want to see somebody trying to run gimp on a 10.1 tablet |
| 21:06.35 | jnwhiteh | Maldivia: we have many reasons :P |
| 21:06.43 | cbreak | Arrowmaster: there's photoshop for iPads |
| 21:06.52 | Arrowmaster | seriously? |
| 21:06.58 | cbreak | yes. Of course not fully featured. |
| 21:06.59 | Arrowmaster | from adobe and all? |
| 21:07.02 | cbreak | yes. |
| 21:07.04 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: Wired has a review today. |
| 21:07.05 | Arrowmaster | wow |
| 21:07.13 | Cide | jnwhiteh: but I am not norwegian! |
| 21:07.18 | jnwhiteh | so? |
| 21:07.20 | jnwhiteh | you know people =) |
| 21:07.25 | Cide | I do? -_- |
| 21:07.51 | cbreak | Arrowmaster: http://itunes.apple.com/ch/app/adobe-photoshop-express/id331975235?l=en&mt=8 |
| 21:08.05 | Maldivia | jnwhiteh: aren't that breed kind of expensive? |
| 21:08.19 | jnwhiteh | we'll use our signing bonuses |
| 21:08.23 | jnwhiteh | we have a few others we like as well |
| 21:08.35 | jnwhiteh | mostly Spitz |
| 21:09.46 | Arrowmaster | for me it would be Great Dane or Pembroke Welsh Corgi |
| 21:09.49 | Cide | http://www.lundehund.se/styled-4/code-3/ has a couple of breeders around sweden |
| 21:09.54 | jnwhiteh | yay! |
| 21:10.04 | Cide | but I don't think I can help you more than my amazing google skills |
| 21:10.11 | jnwhiteh | well, we're lazy |
| 21:10.13 | jnwhiteh | so that works :P |
| 21:10.27 | Cide | I'll see if my dad knows somebody |
| 21:10.52 | Cide | he has a bunch of dog people contacts |
| 21:11.03 | rtharper | Cide: I said that since you were from Norrland, you would know someone in the Sami mafia |
| 21:11.13 | Cide | more or less 100% true |
| 21:12.21 | Cide | Good Day. |
| 21:12.21 | Cide | I need your assistance to transfer the sum of $30.6M,please reply for more details. Regards, Minoru.fujii. |
| 21:12.28 | Cide | sounds legit |
| 21:12.56 | Maldivia | jnwhiteh / rtharper: ok, they are kind of cute, just found some puppy pictures :P |
| 21:13.05 | rtharper | THEY ARE ADORABLE |
| 21:13.29 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 21:13.34 | rtharper | we went through all the Scandy dog breeds |
| 21:13.42 | rtharper | I want one of them, or an Icelandic sheepdog |
| 21:13.42 | Maldivia | http://keezas.dk/?attachment_id=4506 - newly born :P |
| 21:13.47 | rtharper | or a lapponian hound |
| 21:13.57 | Lunessa | Anyone here have any of the Andorid tablets? |
| 21:15.30 | jnwhiteh | Lunessa: my mom has a Xyborg |
| 21:15.35 | jnwhiteh | or some stupidly named shit like that |
| 21:15.49 | Lunessa | Xoom? |
| 21:16.05 | rtharper | mikma has a lapponian hound |
| 21:16.07 | Lunessa | Oh, I see it. |
| 21:17.07 | Lunessa | Xyboard |
| 21:19.29 | Lunessa | But no one here has any direct experience with Android-based tablets? (I'm looking for some eperience with printing, content creattion, and use in a business environment.) |
| 21:20.28 | Dagmar | Printing? |
| 21:20.41 | Dagmar | We have tablets so we don't have to print things. |
| 21:20.59 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Don't make me stab you. |
| 21:20.59 | Dagmar | I'm not sure my Xoom can print. |
| 21:21.15 | Dagmar | I mean, CUPS might be in there somewhere, but the idea has never even crossed my ind. |
| 21:21.15 | Lunessa | Not natively it can't. |
| 21:21.20 | Dagmar | s/ind/mind/; |
| 21:21.39 | Dagmar | If you've got an external bluetooth keyboard, email is fine. |
| 21:21.44 | Arrowmaster | i had some printing app that was a daily freebe from amazon on my phone |
| 21:21.53 | Dagmar | If all you ever send is retard-management mails, the on-screen keyboard is probably fine. |
| 21:21.57 | Lunessa | Was it worth having? |
| 21:22.04 | Arrowmaster | i never used it |
| 21:22.13 | Lunessa | That's what I expected. |
| 21:22.21 | Arrowmaster | it was my phone! |
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| 21:22.24 | Dagmar | This depends on how much you're influenced by LCARS and the fact that these things are slicker than any shit they ever used on Star Trek |
| 21:22.27 | Arrowmaster | what am i going to print from my phone |
| 21:22.36 | Dagmar | I paid $300 for mine, and it's now my "binky" computer. |
| 21:22.54 | Maldivia | Lunessa: what about google's cloud print service? |
| 21:22.54 | Dagmar | It does IM, video chat, web, and email |
| 21:23.00 | Dagmar | Even books. |
| 21:23.10 | Dagmar | Doesn't do HFP mode bluetooth tho... what the fuck |
| 21:23.31 | Dagmar | I figure that's a consideration to asshole cell companies that don't wnat your tablet being able to do VOIP calls with your bluetooth headset |
| 21:23.37 | Lunessa | Maldivia: I'm trying to find a printing solution that doesn't require exposing the ip address of every printer on campus |
| 21:23.50 | Maldivia | ah |
| 21:24.05 | Dagmar | Lunessa: Print queues and a print server. |
| 21:24.11 | Zasurus | Night night everyone |
| 21:24.17 | Dagmar | Well, probably multiple print servers, really |
| 21:24.24 | Maldivia | Lunessa: give the printer a mail-address |
| 21:24.28 | Arrowmaster | well the problem is that he needs an app to send the stuff to the print servers |
| 21:24.36 | Dagmar | Windows people don't seem to have any problems with having an extra step with the potential for failure involved. |
| 21:24.40 | Lunessa | Seriously, I don't like the idea of exposing all of our printers, but we're talking about using a small number on the same network we're building for "open" wifi. |
| 21:25.04 | Lunessa | Since I'm the |
| 21:25.19 | Lunessa | "smartphone guy" I'm also the "tablet guy." |
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| 21:25.58 | Lunessa | And I have very little hands on, day-to-day use with any of the Android tablets 'cause I don't get paid enough to go buy all these toys. |
| 21:26.53 | Dagmar | With the way the thing works, you don't "print" you share the document with a printer. |
| 21:27.01 | Dagmar | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pauloslf.cloudprint <-- this might help |
| 21:28.01 | Dagmar | These things are literally just _not_ meant to print by themselves tho, since printing is a fucktardedly complex problem once you let people have more than just an HP LasterJet 5 |
| 21:28.22 | Lunessa | Right. :) |
| 21:28.44 | Dagmar | I've honestly never even tried to print with this thing tho |
| 21:29.38 | Lunessa | I'll talk to the infrastructure guys about using the google thing. |
| 21:29.50 | Arrowmaster | i dont think that will work |
| 21:29.54 | Dagmar | Aldiko will read any PDF I throw at it, and Google Docs has a print link that uses Google's Cloud Print already |
| 21:29.56 | Arrowmaster | have you read up on it? |
| 21:30.23 | Arrowmaster | unless you have a cloud print printer, it uses a chrome extension on a pc to print |
| 21:30.46 | Lunessa | I'm reading it now. And it doesn't look all that great. But we're already considering some wifi printers that will use Apple's AirPrint on that network. |
| 21:31.03 | Lunessa | That idea might get shot down just due to unrecoverable costs though. |
| 21:31.04 | Arrowmaster | is there airprint stuff for android? |
| 21:31.54 | Lunessa | No, but exposing the ip of 3-4 printers on their own server on it's own segment is better than exposing the ip of the many hundreds of printers we have. |
| 21:32.27 | Maldivia | Lunessa: the HP ePrint servers support both AirPrint and Google Cloud Print |
| 21:32.37 | Lunessa | *nod* |
| 21:32.38 | Maldivia | ehh, ePrint printers* |
| 21:32.53 | Arrowmaster | how does that ePrint stuff work? |
| 21:33.13 | Arrowmaster | been thinking about getting a new wireless printer for home |
| 21:33.57 | Dagmar | It jumps on your wireless and logs into Google. |
| 21:34.45 | Dagmar | They've got software you can just run and turn an old laptop into a cloudprint printer-queue monsters |
| 21:36.16 | Maldivia | Lunessa: but you can also configure existing print servers to act like an AirPrint provider |
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| 21:40.30 | Arrowmaster | guessing nothing you do will make it work with any weird print limiting system like my college had |
| 21:41.29 | Arrowmaster | you had a paper fund that each quarter was refilled to something like $6 and were charged per page to print, if you ran out you had to put your own money on it to print for the rest of the quarter |
| 21:42.25 | Arrowmaster | although certain CIS classrooms didnt have their computers setup with it so you could print from them for free |
| 21:43.35 | Lunessa | We don't actually charge students to print, but if they want to do something excessive (50 copies, an entire journal, covers and photo-quality) we have a printshop they can pay to do those things. |
| 21:43.49 | Lunessa | The rest of the time, we just absorb the cost. |
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| 21:45.06 | Arrowmaster | my collage was cheap |
| 21:45.24 | amro | you used cheap supplies? |
| 21:45.56 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: Lots of universities use a system like that. Because costs for printing easily spiral out of control. |
| 21:46.13 | Arrowmaster | i didnt say uni |
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| 22:05.30 | Arrowmaster | Adys: do you have any idea what you did to my data usage last month? |
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| 22:15.36 | Maldivia | wonders? |
| 22:15.44 | BlackNet | all your data usage belong to us! |
| 22:16.18 | Arrowmaster | i set a new personal best, in a month of only 29 days |
| 22:16.30 | Arrowmaster | 752.74 GiB |
| 22:17.21 | Maldivia | so 26 GiB/day... meh |
| 22:18.26 | Arrowmaster | the last 50 was done on one day |
| 22:19.05 | Maldivia | ewll, think it's about 3x my data usage for February :) |
| 22:21.24 | Maldivia | Arrowmaster: but still, and average of 2.5 Mbps over 29 days is something :P |
| 22:21.52 | Lunessa | WTF? Are you reinstalling every Steam game you ever bought? |
| 22:22.43 | Arrowmaster | no adys let me download a 5 seasons of bluray rips from him |
| 22:22.49 | Maldivia | or running a video streaming service? :) |
| 22:23.05 | Arrowmaster | and i found freeleech torrents on my private trackers |
| 22:24.16 | Maldivia | hmm, 5 seasons... would that be the entire show, and if so what genre, and I'll guess :P |
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| 22:35.55 | Adys | Arrowmaster: lol |
| 22:40.47 | Lunessa | Dr. Who |
| 22:41.02 | Maldivia | only the last two seasons has been on bluray, so can't be |
| 22:41.09 | Maldivia | my guess is so far SG:A |
| 22:41.29 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 22:42.54 | Adys | Maldivia: yup |
| 22:43.12 | Adys | Maldivia: its so awesome tho |
| 22:43.28 | Fisker | shoves Maldivia |
| 22:43.35 | Adys | hd is awesome for space series |
| 22:43.56 | Maldivia | Adys: well, you'll have to admit it's good guessing, considering all I had to go from was 5 seasons and bluray :P |
| 22:53.45 | Cide | just 100gb? |
| 22:53.56 | Cide | less, even |
| 22:54.19 | Cide | when we had lan parties during the Direct Connect days we usually managed to download close to 70-80gb |
| 22:54.27 | Cide | in a single night |
| 22:55.58 | Cide | averaging at ~8-10 mb/s so I guess our theoretical limit would be around 280gb over 10h |
| 22:57.31 | Cide | http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/36a7wk/ ? |
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| 23:04.28 | Cide | (those are bytes in case it was not obvious!) |
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