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| 17:18.08 | Thunder_Child | ~wb purl |
| 17:18.09 | purl | ACTION welcomes purl back |
| 17:20.08 | Lopeppeppy | ~botsnack |
| 17:20.08 | purl | Lopeppeppy: aw, gee |
| 17:20.34 | mckenziemc | ~lart purl |
| 17:20.34 | purl | shoots mckenziemc in the head |
| 17:20.40 | mckenziemc | ): |
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| 17:31.53 | bluworkcow | kk home tiems nows |
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| 17:49.47 | pompy1 | http://g4.tv/AzB3qQ |
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| 18:11.46 | pompy1 | http://www.mobileworldlive.com/ |
| 18:16.10 | Fisker | old pompy1 |
| 18:16.13 | ccox | pompy1: is that a candidate for slowest loading website *eveh*? |
| 18:18.09 | alestane | This one loads all too fast: http://yvettesbridalformal.com/ |
| 18:18.40 | Lopeppeppy | Holy shit snacks, alestane, put a heart attack warning on that, will ya? *pant pant* |
| 18:19.05 | Fisker | i maded a fart |
| 18:19.10 | alestane | I have to figure that that's being maintained to be deliberately bad. |
| 18:19.28 | alestane | I use it in my classes as a counter-example. |
| 18:19.31 | ccox | alestane: lol. Someone pissed of their site maintainer |
| 18:19.40 | Fisker | i wonder if at some time i can be allowed to only have one java install |
| 18:19.41 | alestane | It's been like that for years, ccox. |
| 18:19.57 | alestane | And it's evolved during that time. Someone keeps it like that on purpose. |
| 18:20.25 | Lopeppeppy | Somebody needs to be shot. With great prejudice. |
| 18:20.31 | Fisker | 4 editions of Java later and Chrome finally doesn't prevent me from running java applets |
| 18:20.49 | ccox | Lopeppeppy: that's usually true, but you need to be more specific. |
| 18:21.10 | Fisker | the worst part is that i would fully support it myself had the user been my dad or something like that |
| 18:21.44 | Gnarfoz | install java 1.5, 1.7 and 6 versions of 1.6 |
| 18:22.12 | Fisker | the best part of this was that i just paid 3 bills |
| 18:22.24 | Fisker | and because of this block it went back to the front page |
| 18:22.31 | Fisker | and now i can't see if it's paying the bills or not |
| 18:25.30 | Lopeppeppy | Why, ccox? Shoot 'em all, let the programmer gods sort 'em out. |
| 18:29.35 | kd3|netbook | whee, new negima and hayate chapters today |
| 18:30.15 | pompy1 | speaking of shootings :O http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/27/shooting-reported-at-ohio-high-school/?hpt=hp_t1 |
| 18:31.04 | Kalroth | I read that as shouting; wishful thinking I guess |
| 18:31.18 | Fisker | ok |
| 18:31.21 | Fisker | now they're just pissing me off |
| 18:31.26 | Kalroth | uh oh |
| 18:31.30 | Fisker | Kalroth |
| 18:31.37 | Kalroth | dont do it, Thomas |
| 18:31.40 | Fisker | Nordea is cruisin' for a bruisin' |
| 18:31.51 | Fisker | so |
| 18:32.00 | Kalroth | oh, use a proper browser |
| 18:32.01 | Fisker | paying my bills without knowing whether or not they accepted it - take 3 |
| 18:32.07 | Kalroth | like Firefox or Internet Explorer |
| 18:32.12 | Fisker | fuck you Kalroth |
| 18:32.18 | Kalroth | who uses Chrome for anything serious these days, pfft |
| 18:32.41 | Fisker | they improved chrome support a lot not that long ago |
| 18:32.48 | Fisker | before it would mostly just load blank pages |
| 18:33.38 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, I suggest that you call them - you could be paying these bills multiple times. I dunno about you, but my bank account couldn't handle that kind of crap. |
| 18:34.11 | Fisker | human contact is for pussies |
| 18:35.20 | Kalroth | Fisker, you didnt pay any bills if you didnt enter your password at the end |
| 18:35.30 | Fisker | i did |
| 18:35.30 | Lopeppeppy | Well, yes, that it is, Fisker. *purr* |
| 18:35.33 | Kalroth | oh |
| 18:35.38 | Kalroth | then you probably did! |
| 18:35.39 | Fisker | it's after clicking yes that it redirects to the front page |
| 18:36.14 | Dagmar | pompy1: I wound up rolling into work a bit late this morning... I jokingly told them I had an errand to run in Ohio. |
| 18:36.18 | Kalroth | why does Chrome do that thats just silly you should use Microsoft Internet Explorer |
| 18:36.43 | Dagmar | Kalroth: You feeling okay there? |
| 18:37.15 | Fisker | also nope.avi |
| 18:37.17 | Kalroth | im just fine, thanks for asking |
| 18:37.22 | Fisker | only paid once |
| 18:37.30 | Fisker | because on the front page it says upcoming payments now |
| 18:37.32 | Fisker | it didn't before |
| 18:37.36 | Fisker | woop |
| 18:37.46 | Kalroth | \o/ |
| 18:37.57 | Kalroth | i hope you learned your lesson and will use firefox from now on |
| 18:38.13 | Fisker | i would rather use Internet Explorer |
| 18:38.29 | Fisker | oh and neat |
| 18:38.32 | Fisker | i can even remove them |
| 18:38.38 | Fisker | also |
| 18:38.43 | Fisker | do i have to pay my IPS |
| 18:38.44 | Fisker | ISP* |
| 18:38.58 | Kalroth | no you dont |
| 18:39.05 | Fisker | the bill says "To be paid in full by Monday, February 29th" |
| 18:39.09 | Fisker | 2012 of course |
| 18:39.11 | kd3|netbook | er |
| 18:39.35 | Dagmar | Fisker: Tht |
| 18:39.52 | Dagmar | Fisker: That's because we don't properly consider the use of localtime() as a flogging offense |
| 18:40.11 | Dagmar | So much code would be improved with the occasional use of the pillory. |
| 18:41.59 | Lopeppeppy | flogging is too good for the likes of them. |
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| 18:58.35 | alestane | And people who use goto should presumably be hunted down by packs of velociraptors bred especially for the purpose. |
| 18:58.54 | nevcairiel | there are some valid use-cases for goto! |
| 18:58.54 | Lopeppeppy | Bred to use goto? |
| 18:59.00 | Dagmar | I'd like to add "Oracle people" to that list right now. |
| 18:59.03 | Lopeppeppy | Highly evolved raptors you've got. |
| 18:59.21 | Torhal|work | Lua 5.2 added goto instead of continue |
| 18:59.38 | alestane | Not a change I was enthused about. |
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| 18:59.44 | nevcairiel | continue is just a glorified goto that doesnt make you feel so bad anyway |
| 18:59.50 | Lopeppeppy | Just send the idiots hiking in the Adirondacks in the winter. Apparently the peaks have declared open season on stupid tourists who don't charge their cell phones and go out on bad weather days. |
| 18:59.59 | Dagmar | continue at least skips to the edge of the current scope |
| 19:00.01 | alestane | Presumably the decision was made because it allows a lot more than just emulating continue. |
| 19:00.07 | Dagmar | it doesn't just say "Fuck your scopes" and run amok |
| 19:00.23 | alestane | The main problem is that almost all of those extra things being allowed involve shooting yourself in the foot. |
| 19:00.36 | nevcairiel | anyhow, i use goto frequently to jump to the end of a function where i do resource cleaning, without that goto my function would be unreadable with all the nested ifs and whatnot |
| 19:00.48 | alestane | Use Go, nevcairiel. |
| 19:01.10 | Lopeppeppy | See, we're already back to the shootings that you were scoffing at earlier! |
| 19:01.11 | nevcairiel | But i like C++ |
| 19:01.14 | Corrodias | i suggest splitting it into smaller functions if readability is a problem |
| 19:01.23 | alestane | It allows you to queue resource cleaning executions to be executed before the function returns, regardless of resaon. |
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| 19:01.33 | Corrodias | functions with good names that say what they do |
| 19:01.58 | nevcairiel | Corrodias: if i have one function that calls 10 other smaller functions, and i need to check that all of them succeeded before i call the next one, i still end up with a 10 level deep if. :P |
| 19:02.57 | Torhal|work | ~weather |
| 19:02.58 | Corrodias | that doesn't sound like it's 10 levels deep unless you're using recursion |
| 19:03.11 | alestane | I used to use a pair of switch statements. One just contained a default label, incremented a progress variable as it advanced, and used break to get out if something went wrong. The second switched off of the progress variable to determine where to jump into the cleaning process. |
| 19:03.16 | nevcairiel | just doing if (ret < 0) goto cleanup; is so much easier. :) |
| 19:03.17 | Corrodias | oh, yeah, i could see you doing it that way |
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| 19:04.08 | nevcairiel | another solution would be a loop that just runs once, but that way i can use "break" to get out of it in the middle |
| 19:04.10 | alestane | But the great thing about Go is that it lets you say things like "fileHandle := open(blah); defer fileHandle.close()" |
| 19:04.11 | nevcairiel | still ugly. :p |
| 19:04.15 | Corrodias | try { doFirstThing(); doSecondThing(); } catch (ThingFailedException ex) {} finally { cleanup(); } |
| 19:04.38 | Corrodias | if (!doFirstThing) return; if (!doSecondThing()) return; |
| 19:04.49 | alestane | That way, as soon as you open the file, you guarantee that the file will be closed before control returns to the code that called the function. |
| 19:04.50 | Corrodias | there are different styles to tackle this |
| 19:05.30 | nevcairiel | I work with windows API, they dont use exceptions, they use return codes |
| 19:06.10 | Corrodias | i missed some parenthases, eek. anyway, yeah, i'd aim for the second one then, if (thing() < 0) reutrn; stuff. |
| 19:06.21 | Corrodias | i'm having trouble finging. |
| 19:06.22 | alestane | Ah, if you're programming specifically for those APIs, then yes, you're pretty much stuck with C(++). |
| 19:06.23 | nevcairiel | and how do i do cleanup with the return? :) |
| 19:06.45 | Corrodias | by calling the cleanup in the function that called this one |
| 19:07.01 | nevcairiel | but what if my function needs to allocate its own resources? |
| 19:07.24 | Corrodias | allocate those resources in the function that calls this one. if you need to nest it deeper, that can be done, too. |
| 19:07.33 | nevcairiel | thats a stupid solution |
| 19:07.35 | Corrodias | you are in C++, so you have classes |
| 19:07.47 | nevcairiel | the calling function doesn't need to know what resources i internally need |
| 19:07.54 | nevcairiel | could just be a few bits of memory i allocate |
| 19:08.10 | Corrodias | i miscommunicated |
| 19:08.12 | nevcairiel | Granted, in C++ you could probably do it with smart pointers |
| 19:08.19 | nevcairiel | but i don't like them =P |
| 19:08.45 | Corrodias | you do a cleanup after a return by not having the if (failure) return function be your top-level function |
| 19:09.24 | Corrodias | first function: { allocateResources(); tryStuff(); cleanup(); }. tryStuff: { if (!tryFirstThing()) return; if (!trySecondThing()) return; } |
| 19:09.24 | foxlit | screw if (failure) return |
| 19:09.34 | nevcairiel | thats a ugly concept |
| 19:09.34 | foxlit | if (success) do more is where it's at. |
| 19:09.40 | nevcairiel | resources should be allocated where they are used |
| 19:09.50 | alestane | Design the resources you need to allocate as small static classes, so that they'll be deallocated when they fall out of scope? |
| 19:09.55 | Corrodias | yes, in the same class, not within the same function |
| 19:09.55 | nevcairiel | otherwise you'll never find them again |
| 19:10.41 | Corrodias | you could say instead that the resources need to be released by the same thing that allocates them |
| 19:10.42 | nevcairiel | I like my concept of if (failure) goto cleanup; it works just fine. :p |
| 19:11.12 | nevcairiel | that way a function has only one exit point |
| 19:11.19 | nevcairiel | and you're sure everything is freed |
| 19:11.22 | Corrodias | it works just fine, yes. i'm not saying you should change. i'm just offering an alternative that i think is less ugly than a 10-level nested conditional with a goto jump in the middle |
| 19:11.39 | nevcairiel | thats the point, the goto avoids the nested conditions |
| 19:11.50 | Corrodias | oh, fair enough |
| 19:12.07 | nevcairiel | i don't need to do if (success) { if (success2) {....}} |
| 19:12.11 | Lopeppeppy | I keep reading "goto" is "gigolo" and it's much more funny that way. |
| 19:12.15 | alestane | ' “Republicans being against sex is not good,” the G.O.P. strategist Alex Castellanos told me mournfully. “Sex is popular.” ' |
| 19:12.23 | Corrodias | having only one exit point isn't a goal for me unless more than one is confusing, and if it's small or simple, it's not confusing. goto works the same way. |
| 19:12.47 | nevcairiel | Thats really the only thing i use goto for, jump to the exit of the function to cleanup stuff |
| 19:12.52 | Corrodias | "it" being the function, small and simple |
| 19:15.08 | nevcairiel | Its C/C++ afterall, if you want to shoot yoruself into the foot, the next chance is usually just around the corner, goto doesn't make it any worse. :P |
| 19:15.22 | nevcairiel | I agree that Lua didn't really need it |
| 19:15.38 | nevcairiel | I also couldn't picture me using goto in java |
| 19:16.04 | Torhal|work | if foo == bar then goto loop_begin end |
| 19:16.06 | Torhal|work | Heh. |
| 19:16.27 | Corrodias | also fair statements |
| 19:16.28 | nevcairiel | if you want to emulate continue, you should really go to loop_end instead. :p |
| 19:16.32 | Torhal|work | That's all I would use it for, since continue doesn't exist. |
| 19:16.38 | Torhal|work | Well, yeah. |
| 19:16.40 | Torhal|work | :P |
| 19:17.05 | Corrodias | i guess that's emulating do while |
| 19:20.28 | foxlit | "nevcairiel: i don't need to do if (success) { if (success2) {....}}" << you could reuse success; it'd end up being if(success) success = ... if (success) success = ... .... |
| 19:21.05 | foxlit | not that goto doesn't work. |
| 19:21.06 | nevcairiel | that still looks incredibly odd |
| 19:21.53 | foxlit | looks okay if you're dealing with an API that exclusively communicates through return value success codes. |
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| 19:37.01 | Fisker | Parnic |
| 19:37.03 | Fisker | hey there Sixen |
| 19:37.30 | Fisker | Parnic i will find you |
| 19:42.26 | Mikk | Lua needs goto as much as any other languge. |
| 19:42.38 | Mikk | Especially when we don't have finally {} clauses |
| 19:42.50 | Mikk | Sure you can write a bajillion functions instead |
| 19:43.04 | Mikk | But that's not exactly code friendly nor optimized |
| 19:43.46 | nevcairiel | Lua doesnt need goto, its a GCed language, which cuts like 99% of the uses of finally out of the picture |
| 19:44.20 | nevcairiel | Also, at least in WoW, doesnt get access to system resources that would need closing even with GC |
| 19:44.34 | Cide | nested loops |
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| 19:45.09 | Mikk | ^ |
| 19:45.44 | nevcairiel | luckily, breaking out of loops is already supported :p |
| 19:46.28 | Mikk | not nested ones |
| 19:46.38 | Mikk | unless there's a break2 and break3 somewhere |
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| 19:48.10 | Lunessa | Hello ladies. |
| 19:48.52 | Lopeppeppy | Why hello there. |
| 19:49.11 | Lunessa | A great start to my long day… two trays of cookies on my desk. |
| 19:50.21 | Lopeppeppy | Neat! |
| 19:51.16 | Lunessa | This is what happens when you do nice things for people - such as reinstall the OS on their smartphone. |
| 19:53.00 | Lopeppeppy | Aaaaah. Glad there is some appreciation coming your way. |
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| 19:59.53 | Arrowmaster | "While we are impressed with your qualifications, we won’t be moving you forward in the selection process." |
| 20:00.16 | Lunessa | :( |
| 20:00.18 | nevcairiel | those people should really tell you why not |
| 20:00.26 | Arrowmaster | yeah they emailed me asking for my previous work experience and this is the reply i get when i tell them none |
| 20:00.27 | Lopeppeppy | Why can I hear George Carlin's voice reading that? |
| 20:00.47 | Arrowmaster | nobody fucking wants to hire people right out of college |
| 20:00.55 | nevcairiel | worked for me |
| 20:00.58 | nevcairiel | but i'm not in the US |
| 20:01.29 | Fisker | i was called up by one for an interview |
| 20:01.36 | Fisker | and he told me to never apply for job in his company |
| 20:01.36 | Fisker | :3 |
| 20:01.37 | Lopeppeppy | The only way to get a job right out of school is 1) have it be where you did your internships, 2) have it be through someone you know. Otherwise, forget it. |
| 20:02.34 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: It's harder to get some jobs right out of college, but it can happen. Though if a place is hiring for a mission-critical position or one with little or no room/time to train someone they generally want someone with experience. Did you intern anywhere? |
| 20:03.00 | karl_w_w | any1 know off hand when the press event is? |
| 20:03.11 | Arrowmaster | i never did an internship, we did a big class project instead, and instead of doing the project for a business like previous classes did we redid our own lab |
| 20:03.32 | karl_w_w | march 19 |
| 20:03.44 | Arrowmaster | a lab that i never even used because i took those classes elsewhere |
| 20:04.19 | alestane | Also, most jobs that are advertised through sites or boards are senior jobs. |
| 20:04.28 | alestane | It's generally easy to fill entry jobs. |
| 20:04.43 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: That's rough. You might have to set your sights a little lower and get a foot in the door. |
| 20:05.23 | Arrowmaster | i did, i got denied an installation tech and a tier 3 support job at timewarner |
| 20:05.50 | Lunessa | That's how I got in to the Windows Dev team at AOL. I couldn't get hired straight into Dev, so I worked 6 months in Tech Support, and a year in QA. |
| 20:06.23 | Lunessa | Came in pretty handy too, because I had a set of experiences that none of the other developers had. |
| 20:07.36 | Arrowmaster | im thinking about removing the graduation dates from my resume |
| 20:07.51 | Lunessa | That probably won't help. |
| 20:08.52 | Arrowmaster | well its not helping that the time ive been unemployeed after graduating is getting longer and longer and you can see it on my resume |
| 20:09.28 | Lopeppeppy | Volunteer work is at least something, even if it's not related to your field. Brownie points for "I did not sit on my arse the whole time" |
| 20:10.06 | Arrowmaster | yeah ive got Microsoft Xbox Community Ambassador on my resume for volunteer work |
| 20:10.52 | Adys | haha; apache flex |
| 20:11.12 | Adys | man i dont even remember how many times i said the ASF is an open source trashbin |
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| 20:12.52 | jnwhiteh | I can recall at least five times |
| 20:12.59 | jnwhiteh | so that's something :P |
| 20:13.17 | Lopeppeppy | Not a lot of employers are going to see Xbox as a positive resume item. :) I was thinking of Boy Scouts, library, YMCA, I dunno. |
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| 20:42.45 | Nechckn | You could tone the comment about the Xbox as a community management type of thing, though, so not a total loss. |
| 20:46.34 | Lopeppeppy | Just have to pitch it correctly. |
| 20:46.43 | Nechckn | exactly |
| 20:47.00 | Lopeppeppy | I know I almost didn't get hired here when the grand boss found out about my volunteer Bliz stuff. He didn't want a "gamer type" on his staff. |
| 20:47.02 | Nechckn | Otherwise they will think it is like 'played xbox' Woo! ;-) |
| 20:47.24 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly! |
| 20:53.22 | Arrowmaster | what i do is pure volunteer helpdesk, although i do get to choose which questions i answer |
| 20:54.23 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, helpdesk sounds good. Less emphasis on the choosing questions though. :) |
| 20:56.21 | Mr_Rabies | volunteer helpdesk sounds like the worst combination of words i've ever heard |
| 20:56.28 | Arrowmaster | it is |
| 20:56.46 | Arrowmaster | i rarely answer questions anymore because they are just so bad |
| 20:57.09 | Mr_Rabies | the only thing that would make it worse would be tagging "xbox live" onto that |
| 20:57.18 | Lopeppeppy | I think he did. :P |
| 20:57.32 | Arrowmaster | plus people get to rate us afterwards and i just know telling them 'no, its impossible to change the age on your live account so you can download M rated content from the marketplace' will get me a bad review |
| 20:57.59 | Mr_Rabies | how many "u fggt my acct got hacked n now my avetar is blue i didn't mod!!!1" a day do you get |
| 20:58.05 | Mikk | http://whywasibanned.com/ |
| 20:58.14 | Mikk | ^ many lost hours |
| 20:58.38 | Arrowmaster | lets see ive got a "someone is calling Microsoft and saying false statements about me can someone help?" |
| 20:59.14 | Lunessa | HR people are innundated with resumes and applications they're taking a beating 'cause 500 people apply fpr every job. It sucks Arrowmaster. :/ |
| 20:59.14 | Arrowmaster | a "I checked my email today and had a second email asking for confirmation to be attached to my windows live account....I deleted that email, I also recieved a mail stating that $50 was cahrged to some credit card for Phil Holis (never heard of him) and my account now has 4000 points...this is all fraudulent and must be investigated" |
| 20:59.16 | Mikk | "My friends reported me for fun and now I'm banned!!! ARE YOU STUPID??!" <- very common |
| 20:59.30 | Mikk | Usually followed by "No, becaues your avatar is yellow" or somesuch |
| 21:00.53 | Mr_Rabies | how much fifa abuse have you had to deal with? i hear some version of fifa's got something allowing some form of exploiting and lots of fraudulent msp purchases |
| 21:01.12 | Arrowmaster | oh i found a "My black ops game will ot save my high scores anymore" which screems of being banned from the leaderboards for cheating |
| 21:01.46 | Arrowmaster | Mr_Rabies: the problem isnt with an exploit in fifa but that a feature of fifa allows for easy 'money laundering' |
| 21:02.04 | Mr_Rabies | ahh |
| 21:02.20 | Mr_Rabies | so fifa itself isn't the thing, it's probably bad live account passwords, etc |
| 21:02.25 | Lunessa | YES! Finally getting to kill off our BES! FINALLY. |
| 21:02.44 | Mr_Rabies | i read BEES |
| 21:02.50 | Mr_Rabies | i was like D: what |
| 21:03.03 | Lunessa | Blackberry Enterprise Server. Fucking expensive piece of crap. |
| 21:03.12 | Arrowmaster | yeah, people get their accounts compromised, the attackers play fifa and purchase 'ultimate team cards' which they transfer elsewhere and sell later |
| 21:03.16 | Mr_Rabies | you could have stopped at "Blackberry" |
| 21:03.17 | Mr_Rabies | :p |
| 21:03.20 | Maldivia | I read Bess, and was wondering who she was |
| 21:03.24 | Lunessa | But it's down to two users. And we're making them get off. |
| 21:03.44 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet, Lunessa! One less major headache for you! |
| 21:03.54 | Mr_Rabies | reminds me of that time Something Awful did a web browser survey thing for a month |
| 21:04.07 | Mr_Rabies | turned out some guy in like 2008 was using a webtv to browse something awful |
| 21:04.14 | Mr_Rabies | they banned him out of principle |
| 21:04.20 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 21:07.07 | Lunessa | I would have too. WebTV was a '97-era browser and it SUCKED. |
| 21:08.11 | Arrowmaster | http://i.imgur.com/UaKvu.jpg |
| 21:09.25 | Mr_Rabies | is akira really set in the same year as blade runner? |
| 21:09.26 | Mr_Rabies | that's awesome |
| 21:09.51 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: Neat. I see it leaves out iRobot and Battle Beyond the Satrs. |
| 21:11.35 | Valdarix | Would have taken the WebTV over the Compaq/MSN Companion at least supporting it was more than "Oh you have a Companion" followed by hitting the mute button and bashing face to monitor repeatedly. |
| 21:13.22 | Mr_Rabies | i wish gundam's universal century had a solid starting date so it could join in on the fun |
| 21:13.23 | Mr_Rabies | :( |
| 21:14.42 | Arrowmaster | need to add in the doctor who stuff |
| 21:14.49 | nicoli_s | doctor who stuff? |
| 21:14.54 | Mr_Rabies | it could have started in 1988, 2001, 2053, 2070, 2081, 2109, 2149 or even later, depending on what you consider canon :( |
| 21:16.53 | Arrowmaster | yeah right now red dwarf is at the end, add some doctor who episodes and it would be the farthest in the future |
| 21:17.29 | Maldivia | well, considering doctor who has covered the entire of time, can't really plot it in :P |
| 21:18.49 | Arrowmaster | matt smith was on top gear |
| 21:18.53 | nevcairiel | can add all the different times doctor who showed the future (or specifically, earth) |
| 21:19.04 | Lopeppeppy | Or a *version* of the future. |
| 21:19.47 | Lunessa | Matt Smith, eater of Egg and Cress sandwiches and really good at the role of Dr. Who. |
| 21:20.17 | nevcairiel | i'm also disappointed that the graph is missing babylon 5 |
| 21:20.38 | Arrowmaster | good point |
| 21:20.54 | Fisker | old btw |
| 21:21.03 | nevcairiel | yeah, it says 2011 is now |
| 21:21.15 | Arrowmaster | i dont remember the years for b5 |
| 21:21.23 | nevcairiel | 2257 - 2262 |
| 21:22.17 | nevcairiel | i actually just started to re-watch it. :d |
| 21:22.43 | Arrowmaster | ive rewatched it at least twice since i got it on dvd |
| 21:22.56 | Maldivia | I remember loving that show |
| 21:23.04 | Maldivia | but haven't watched it in ages |
| 21:23.11 | nevcairiel | its still good, imho |
| 21:23.55 | nevcairiel | i just love it for not being one of those half soap-operas in space like most of the star trek series =p |
| 21:23.56 | Humbedooh | Aaaah, Mr. Garibaldi, just the man I wanted to see! |
| 21:24.16 | Lunessa | I keep hoping the tech from the Cyberpunk 2020 game becomes real. :) |
| 21:25.08 | Arrowmaster | GitS |
| 21:30.35 | karl_w_w | anyone remember which bond movie has the remote controlled bmw where he hid in the back seat driving it with his phone? |
| 21:30.39 | Nechckn | B5 has aged fairly well, considering. |
| 21:30.47 | karl_w_w | i know it was either the living daylights or licence to kill |
| 21:31.06 | Nechckn | Hrm.. one of the more recent ones, yeah. |
| 21:31.50 | Maldivia | tomorrow never dies |
| 21:33.13 | Maldivia | or well, in that pierce brosnan lies on the back seat of the car, controlling it with something that looks like a mobile phone |
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| 21:33.24 | Arrowmaster | the MiB playstation controller was better |
| 21:33.31 | karl_w_w | hmm could be |
| 21:33.51 | Maldivia | karl_w_w: http://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/index_cars.php?m=au&g=au011 - there you go |
| 21:33.51 | karl_w_w | but i seem to remember it being timothy dalton doing the driving, could be wrong' |
| 21:36.23 | Maldivia | well, timothy dalton drove aston martins |
| 21:37.19 | Nechckn | There is a whole thing about how they were pimping Aston Marin's but then they had a lull in anything 'cool' so they changes to BMW |
| 21:37.49 | Nechckn | At least, according the "The Internet' =) Sounds reasonable, however. |
| 21:37.58 | Maldivia | well, casino royal and QoS has aston martins |
| 21:38.36 | karl_w_w | the only sensible choice |
| 21:38.46 | Nechckn | true, true - and those definitely go better wtih the whole "Go England' back story. |
| 21:38.58 | karl_w_w | bloody germans, can't having them think they make nice cars |
| 21:39.15 | karl_w_w | i did good grammars in that sentence |
| 21:39.21 | Nechckn | lol - you tell 'them' karl_w_w |
| 21:41.20 | Arrowmaster | i prefer italian cars |
| 21:41.52 | karl_w_w | oh, and lotuses of course are acceptable as well |
| 21:42.20 | Arrowmaster | me want http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancia_Stratos |
| 21:42.27 | Nechckn | There are some dandies from each country/company. |
| 21:42.38 | Nechckn | Although.. not sure about 'best' overall. |
| 21:43.58 | Maldivia | Arrowmaster: but all you can afford is a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CityEl ? |
| 21:44.34 | Arrowmaster | i cant even afford that right now |
| 21:44.51 | karl_w_w | there's too many factors that go into it to be able to pick a best car |
| 21:45.48 | Arrowmaster | karl_w_w: look at it, i dont need any other factors http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lancia_Stratos_HF_001.JPG |
| 21:46.57 | Torhal|work | ~wiki space cadet keyboard |
| 21:46.58 | karl_w_w | too much ground clearance for my taste :P |
| 21:47.51 | foxlit | that looks like fun |
| 21:48.11 | foxlit | "press HUPER-SUPER-META-CTRL-5 to continue" |
| 21:48.23 | Torhal|work | Hehe |
| 21:51.56 | Nechckn | Was that used in Knight Rider? =) |
| 21:53.09 | Nechckn | You know, with that, emacs is not so bizarre. Okay, it stil is, but maybe a bit easier. |
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| 22:20.24 | Fisker | Hey Parnic |
| 22:21.35 | Fisker | No? |
| 22:21.43 | mckenziemc | maybe |
| 22:23.05 | Fisker | v |
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| 22:44.36 | TC-Work | foxlit: i real like the 'Rub Out" key |
| 22:44.39 | TC-Work | really* |
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| 23:02.01 | kd3|netbook | the rub out key? is that missing a word there? |
| 23:02.12 | mckenziemc | >.< |
| 23:02.37 | foxlit | erase. |
| 23:03.07 | TC-Work | kd3|netbook: could be multiple |
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| 23:03.55 | Lunessa | I thought it was the key for a hit man. |
| 23:08.05 | TC-Work | Lunessa: well, it is a key for a man.... |
| 23:08.13 | Lunessa | lulz |
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| 23:57.18 | Arrowmaster | i think i broke this demo, it says i have --2,147,483,648 credits |
| 23:58.34 | kd3|netbook | yay overflows |
