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| 00:08.23 | Zasurus | Is there a way of telling if you are dancing currently? |
| 00:10.59 | Sintacks | does your toon look retarded? |
| 00:11.02 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:11.30 | Sintacks | because that's completely random, i'm going to ask why do you want to know if your toon is dancing? lol |
| 00:12.34 | Kaylin | I would think you could track number of times you've used the dance emote paired with other actions that would cancel it, but that doesn't solve the piccolo of the flaming fire issue. is there perhaps an action you cannot do while dancing you could try |
| 00:12.37 | Kaylin | ? |
| 00:15.27 | Zasurus | Kaylin: Don't know if there is.. Can't think of one. Most seem to cancel the dance. I can find out if I was dancing by trying to dance again and if so it won't say the "You burst into dance" |
| 00:15.44 | Zasurus | But that is the only way I have found so far and isn't ideal! LOL |
| 00:17.03 | Kaylin | yea I can't think of one either, I know you can no-longer dance in combat but that's not really helpful either. |
| 00:17.18 | Kaylin | what are you using it for may I ask? |
| 00:17.38 | Kaylin | playing awesome dance music while dancing? |
| 00:17.40 | Zasurus | just some fun so after a min or so of inactivity it starts dancing |
| 00:17.52 | Zasurus | although loving the dance music one! LOL |
| 00:18.03 | Zasurus | Think i will sleep on it. Thanks and Night |
| 00:18.04 | Kaylin | hmm, would it matter? could you just /dance after 1 minute of activity |
| 00:18.16 | Kaylin | and if it doesn't work bc you're dancing already so be it? |
| 00:18.31 | Kaylin | inactivity* |
| 00:19.25 | Zasurus | Yer that's what I have done so far guess I could catch if it didn't say the your dancing thing and try again encase we canceled it! LOL Thanks again |
| 00:28.39 | foxlit | Torhal: I thought that was it |
| 00:28.54 | foxlit | But I can't find any traces of it being a launcher in its source code -- just a bunch of qtip madness. |
| 00:42.59 | Arrowmaster | just found a rare bow on cath lvl1 in D3, with only 6% MF..... |
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| 00:46.21 | Mikk | points Arrowmaster in the general direction of #thosewhocareaboutd3 |
| 00:58.09 | BlackNet | http://wetlands.simplyaquatics.com/v/misc/whorehouse_tokens.jpg.html my sister and i picked up some of these today at the show. |
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| 01:38.45 | Torhal | foxlit: It should say whether it's a datafeed or launcher in its LDB invocation |
| 01:39.17 | foxlit | type = "data source", |
| 01:39.38 | Torhal | Yar, so; not a launcher |
| 01:39.49 | foxlit | so not what I wanted :( |
| 01:40.21 | Torhal | Change it to launcher and see what happens. |
| 01:40.28 | Torhal | I mean, something like that SHOULD be a launcher. |
| 01:40.40 | Torhal | Unless he has funky stuff show up in its text field. |
| 01:40.44 | foxlit | not really that interested :) |
| 01:40.52 | Torhal | Heh |
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| 01:41.48 | foxlit | wanted to point someone else at it; don't actually care personally. |
| 01:42.23 | foxlit | Remember testing against something that provided those, though, so something must've existed at some point. |
| 01:52.15 | foxlit | http://s.cdn.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw45110.jpg |
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| 02:57.54 | bluspacecow | ~whalenuke bluspacecow |
| 02:57.54 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around bluspacecow with his mind powers. |
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| 03:21.13 | Thunder_Child | ~whaleshield bluspacecow |
| 03:21.21 | Thunder_Child | damit purl |
| 03:22.20 | Thunder_Child | ~purl vs. bluspacecow |
| 03:22.31 | Thunder_Child | ~vs purl bluspacecow |
| 03:22.32 | purl | in a one on one showdown, bluspacecow wins. |
| 03:31.17 | bluspacecow | Cairenn: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/407217_10150702579093465_129446698464_11414290_2008331004_n.jpg |
| 03:31.52 | Cairenn | heh |
| 03:33.08 | bluspacecow | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/432014_302834479769680_186592251393904_789748_42964075_n.jpg |
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| 03:58.18 | bluspacecow | http://www.quiterly.com/2617/dog-eats-a-lime-gif?ref=nf |
| 03:59.55 | Thunder_Child | http://geekmontage.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/WoW-Real-Life-Models.png |
| 04:00.35 | Thunder_Child | (nsfw) |
| 04:00.39 | bluspacecow | no mage ? |
| 04:00.42 | bluspacecow | :( |
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| 04:46.09 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: how come you didnt tell us you were on Top Gear |
| 05:05.13 | TC-Away | because he is shy |
| 05:12.17 | Arrowmaster | this is a great episode |
| 05:23.20 | karl_w_w | http://www.cracked.com/video_18156_a-trailer-every-academy-award-winning-movie-ever.html pretty good |
| 05:41.13 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 06:01.45 | Mr_Rabies | i hope 4.3.3 adds battletags :O |
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| 06:03.12 | starlon | ubuntu does NOT make it easy to grab ahold of the edge of a window >.< |
| 06:04.05 | starlon | pins the tail on Mr_Rabies. |
| 06:04.09 | starlon | There's your battle tag. |
| 06:05.08 | Mr_Rabies | use one of these starlon: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31wp84ZA63L._SL500_AA300_.jpg |
| 06:07.26 | starlon | heh |
| 06:08.03 | starlon | Anyone ever do something similar? http://www.consolegames.ro/forum/attachments/f69-funny/89791d1294509189-poze-funny-memes-rage-favor.jpg |
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| 06:08.06 | starlon | It's so me. |
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| 06:36.47 | starlon | has a pain in the ass. |
| 06:49.02 | Thunder_Child | no starlon, i have never texted someone whos phone is 10 feet from me |
| 06:49.19 | Thunder_Child | but then i dont text much so it's not something that comes to mind |
| 06:49.43 | starlon | It's totally something I'd do. |
| 06:51.25 | Thunder_Child | i am more the person who sees the phone and says ' who on their contact list can i randomly text with something disturbing' eg. "I'm pregnant" |
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| 06:57.56 | starlon | I prefer getting ahold of people's Facebook accounts. |
| 06:58.12 | starlon | more of an impact |
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| 07:13.39 | Thunder_Child | there is an achievement in D3 that you get for doing all achievement....you should never be able to get it because to get it you would have had to have done that achivement as well.... |
| 07:13.53 | Thunder_Child | it really shuld be worded as 'all other achievements' |
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| 07:17.21 | starlon | He who has no life could do it. |
| 07:17.49 | starlon | likes to do it do it. |
| 07:19.40 | Thunder_Child | TMI starlon |
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| 07:20.15 | starlon | :\ |
| 07:24.28 | Fisker | hey Thunder_Child |
| 07:24.30 | Fisker | not so hey starlon |
| 07:25.08 | Thunder_Child | sup Fisker |
| 07:25.37 | starlon | raps to the beat of Fisker. |
| 07:32.44 | Jammer | Thunder_Child: assuming you're reading it as a description what you should do, but when you get that achievement you also have all achievements |
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| 07:41.01 | Thunder_Child | Jammer: you only get it because the wording does not match the trigger. if it did you would never get it. |
| 07:42.02 | karl_w_w | it couldnt say "get all other achievements" though because that would be ambiguous |
| 07:42.43 | karl_w_w | it would have to be "get all achievements other than this one" in which case the moment you got it you wouldn't qualify for it :P |
| 07:43.04 | Thunder_Child | karl_w_w: why do you have to put in other than this one? |
| 07:43.15 | Thunder_Child | thats redundant with 'other' |
| 07:43.40 | starlon | UPVOTE ALL THE ACHIEVEMENTS! |
| 07:43.48 | karl_w_w | what? |
| 07:43.51 | starlon | :\ |
| 07:43.57 | Thunder_Child | aaaaand, no more drinking for starlon |
| 07:44.03 | starlon | :( |
| 07:44.11 | karl_w_w | it has to be other |
| 07:44.18 | karl_w_w | otherwise it just says get all achievements |
| 07:45.21 | Thunder_Child | karl_w_w: i mean why is 'all other achievements' not ok but ' all achievements other than this one' |
| 07:45.31 | starlon | in the future all code compiles are instant |
| 07:46.22 | Thunder_Child | karl_w_w: besides, even if you didnt qualify for it after the trigger it doesnt matter, it has already been triggered |
| 07:46.36 | karl_w_w | because all other achievements doesnt say what it's other than :P |
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| 07:49.10 | Thunder_Child | karl_w_w: fair enough, however i'm sure i can word it so that you need all others and it would not invalidate it upon completion |
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| 07:50.28 | karl_w_w | yeah that's easy |
| 07:50.55 | karl_w_w | "complete [total_num_achievements-1] achievements" |
| 07:51.37 | Thunder_Child | that would not work, since it could include itself |
| 07:51.56 | Thunder_Child | which would not be legal |
| 07:51.59 | karl_w_w | how could it include itself? |
| 07:52.16 | karl_w_w | you can't earn it before any other achievements :P |
| 07:52.28 | Thunder_Child | you are not specific about which achievements |
| 07:52.35 | karl_w_w | you don't need to be |
| 07:52.54 | Thunder_Child | but we were talking about the wording, not the triggering |
| 07:53.08 | karl_w_w | yes that's what I'm talking about |
| 07:54.31 | Thunder_Child | ok, sounds good |
| 07:55.08 | karl_w_w | if it said "complete all achievements" or anything along those lines it would be the only achievement I have heard of that's worded like that |
| 07:55.55 | karl_w_w | like the master of IoC achievement doesn't say "complete all IoC achievements" it says complete the following achievements:" and lists them all |
| 07:56.11 | Thunder_Child | it says "complete all achievements that can be obtainted in the beta" |
| 07:56.39 | Thunder_Child | however it also does have a list and it is not included on the list, like i said, the trigger is not the same as the wording |
| 07:57.13 | karl_w_w | so really it should say "complete the following beta achievements" :P |
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| 08:17.43 | Arrowmaster | it does say that |
| 08:18.19 | Arrowmaster | it lists every other achievement and checks them off as you complete them just like in wow |
| 08:29.07 | Fisker | hey Arrowmaster |
| 08:31.32 | starlon | I'm going to patent the process of skinning a cat. |
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| 08:35.30 | Kaylin | which way bc |
| 08:35.33 | Kaylin | there's more than one |
| 08:38.11 | starlon | That's the beauty of patents. |
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| 08:42.13 | zenzio | this seems to have been a rather popular question... http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9314534/why-does-changing-0-1f-to-0-slow-down-performance-by-10x |
| 08:51.56 | Kaylin | interesting. |
| 08:54.15 | starlon | "Every time Hollywood Accounting occurs, a math teacher dies." - Rikuo |
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| 09:23.05 | starlon | kills and Android. |
| 09:23.13 | starlon | s/and/an/ |
| 09:25.16 | zenzio | now you're just hurting Data's and Bishop's simulated feelings |
| 09:26.23 | starlon | I need to save up for an iPad. |
| 09:26.31 | zenzio | why? |
| 09:26.47 | starlon | android dev is a pita |
| 09:27.13 | zenzio | are you going to be developing for the iPad? Otherwise I fail to see the relevance |
| 09:27.20 | starlon | although, iPad uses ARM too, so I guess I'd have the same problem. |
| 09:27.40 | zenzio | what problem is it you're experiencing? Must be low level if the CPU architecture matters |
| 09:28.44 | starlon | I'm not sure exactly. I need to run valgrind on it, but valgrind only supports two devices, neither of which I own. |
| 09:29.07 | starlon | So I'm trying to talk my Mom into loaning me money for a Galaxy S |
| 09:29.16 | zenzio | heh |
| 09:29.44 | zenzio | but still, valgrind? Are you using a lot of memory, or experiencing something odd? |
| 09:29.55 | starlon | And I'm just wildly assuming iOS is a better grasp. |
| 09:30.13 | starlon | I think my problem has to do with memory alignments. |
| 09:30.23 | starlon | Which I'm not sure valgrind would even bitch about. |
| 09:30.54 | starlon | I get a few compile warnings about them, but they're not related I don't think. |
| 09:31.08 | zenzio | I've not done much debugging like that, but the tools that come with Xcode's iOS tools are pretty powerful |
| 09:31.37 | zenzio | I still don't like coding for iOS, but the tools are good, and the frameworks aren't bad |
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| 09:33.33 | zenzio | while it can be nice to have an emulator, the Android SDK really needs a simulator. So much quicker to get your app running on the iPhone/Pad Simulator |
| 09:34.10 | starlon | hmm |
| 09:34.21 | starlon | maybe I should take a break from android and just use the simulator |
| 09:34.28 | starlon | iOS I mean |
| 09:35.01 | zenzio | do you have an iOS developer account with Apple? |
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| 09:42.09 | starlon | nope |
| 09:42.16 | starlon | Do those cost? |
| 09:42.39 | Humbedooh | $99 or something methinks |
| 09:42.45 | starlon | ah |
| 09:42.47 | zenzio | yup |
| 09:43.04 | Humbedooh | don't you go thinking you can develop for free! |
| 09:43.37 | zenzio | and if I recall correctly, you need an account to use the simulator (in theory you can't download the SDK without one, but people could copy it to you); you need a provisioning profile to sign the app before it'll run on the simulator (again, if I recall correctly) |
| 09:43.44 | zenzio | might be only on the phones you needed it |
| 09:45.47 | starlon | nods. |
| 09:58.40 | Zasurus | Ayone know if there is their a string that contains the "You burst into dance." in what ever language the client is in (like KEY_BUTTON10 = "Mouse Button 10")? I have searched the net and also the files and only found EmotesTextData.dbc contains the string but it's not a fully readable file so doesn't say what the string is stored in (if it is). |
| 09:59.55 | jnwhiteh | well, GlobalStrings.lua contains a significant quantity of them |
| 09:59.59 | jnwhiteh | and is locale-specific |
| 10:00.15 | jnwhiteh | but I don't believe it contains the response strings for emotes |
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| 10:02.38 | Zasurus | no it doesnt :( |
| 10:03.30 | bluspacecow | how about in the MPQ files ? |
| 10:03.47 | bluspacecow | http://www.zezula.net/en/mpq/download.html |
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| 10:04.33 | Zasurus | yer that's where I found the EmotesTextData.dbc... what is a .dbc file? |
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| 10:06.03 | jnwhiteh | dbc files contain data that is fetched from the servers, its cache data |
| 10:06.32 | Zasurus | hum... so why would a cache file be in the mpq files! LOL Damn confusing bliz |
| 10:06.47 | jnwhiteh | it migh tnot be in this case |
| 10:07.04 | jnwhiteh | they've changed a lot over the past 7 years |
| 10:07.10 | jnwhiteh | its a database file |
| 10:07.34 | bluspacecow | um data/cache files are MPQ files technically |
| 10:07.57 | Zasurus | jnwhiteh: Thanks. Will just create my own translation of them :) |
| 10:08.05 | bluspacecow | kk work tiems |
| 10:08.07 | jnwhiteh | bluspacecow: I'm not sure that's accurate? |
| 10:08.16 | bluspacecow | ? |
| 10:08.22 | jnwhiteh | MPQ is basically a way to pack *files* together |
| 10:08.26 | bluspacecow | open your Data folder and look in the Cache folder |
| 10:08.32 | jnwhiteh | yes? |
| 10:08.36 | bluspacecow | they' seem to be MPQ files you can open with MPQ editor |
| 10:08.39 | bluspacecow | that's what I meant |
| 10:08.52 | jnwhiteh | okay, that isn't what I was tlaking about |
| 10:08.54 | jnwhiteh | but okay =) |
| 10:09.18 | bluspacecow | RADISH! where are me keys! BBL |
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| 10:27.15 | Fisker | "Analysis: Apple's Unlocking Patents are Invalid" |
| 10:27.21 | Fisker | Filed under: No shit sherlock |
| 10:29.49 | batbot | Shirik cannot destroy me. |
| 10:30.24 | starlon | Fisker: Is that something you read? |
| 10:34.31 | starlon | threatens Fisker with purl's wrath. |
| 10:34.38 | Fisker | http://www.dailytech.com/Analysis+Apples+Unlocking+Patents+are+Invalid+or+Should+be+Narrowed/article24035.htm |
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| 11:01.24 | Maldivia | ohh, I missed some dbc discussion :) |
| 11:04.44 | zenzio | DBC? |
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| 11:05.32 | Humbedooh | Das Boot, Collectors edition |
| 11:11.05 | Maldivia | zenzio: the database files used in wow to store spell info, item info, taxi nodes, various strings, etc etc |
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| 11:55.57 | Fisker | Herr jnwhiteh |
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| 12:00.34 | jnwhiteh | lehurpderp |
| 12:00.36 | jnwhiteh | hihi |
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| 12:27.48 | mikma | cairenn: http://imgur.com/gallery/ixnpz |
| 12:28.03 | Cairenn | heh |
| 12:34.46 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/xxSRk |
| 12:37.07 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 15:15.12 | zenzio | http://vimeo.com/36820781 ... |
| 15:18.01 | bluworkcow | lol |
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| 15:18.20 | Lopeppeppy | Ahoy, mateys |
| 15:18.28 | zenzio | ahoy! |
| 15:18.37 | zenzio | repost for peppy: http://vimeo.com/36820781 |
| 15:18.40 | amro | zenzio: a heads up about the sudden earfuck would have been nice |
| 15:18.57 | zenzio | amro: didn't know there was, sorry - don't have sound on here |
| 15:19.44 | Lopeppeppy | Scary kitty is scary! |
| 15:20.33 | Lopeppeppy | Damn, if today weren't a "holiday" I'd be getting new shoes. Hate! |
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| 16:09.34 | Ackis | how much does it cost to transfer a guild to a different server? |
| 16:09.54 | karl_w_w | several monies |
| 16:10.04 | Lopeppeppy | I'm going to guess $25US, but that's a guess. Head to the account page and found out, is my bestest answer. |
| 16:10.12 | Maldivia | 35 |
| 16:10.29 | Maldivia | Ackis: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/3710215/_New_Guild_Services_Now_Available-10_25_2011 |
| 16:11.21 | Ackis | ugh ok |
| 16:12.07 | karl_w_w | http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1008027-New-Guild-Services-Now-Available-Blue-Posts |
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| 16:30.15 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FftZt-Dw_hQ ahaha |
| 16:31.01 | Fisker | old Ackis |
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| 16:40.31 | karl_w_w | http://au.news.yahoo.com/queensland/a/-/technology/12953872/single-atom-transistor-busts-the-records/ |
| 16:42.12 | Shirik | old? |
| 16:42.13 | karl_w_w | is there a disclaimer anywhere on wow forums that basically says anything you post becomes the property of blizzard? |
| 16:42.24 | karl_w_w | Shirik: yesterday isn't old |
| 16:42.36 | Shirik | Yeah but I know I saw an article on this literally a year+ ago |
| 16:42.50 | Shirik | maybe in an IEEE magazine |
| 16:43.57 | foxlit | "The recovery key is a "safety net" which can be used to unlock the disk if you forget your password" << meh, dilemmas. |
| 16:44.35 | nevcairiel | Shirik: its australia, news takes a while to get there |
| 16:45.17 | Shirik | ah yes they use IP over aquatic vessel |
| 16:45.57 | bluworkcow | well it's a vast improvement over their carrier pigeon net |
| 16:46.12 | bluworkcow | mostly 'cause people kept shooting the pigeons for foods |
| 16:46.16 | nevcairiel | so next up, sub-atomic transistors? I mean, otherwise moores law will hit us still some day, cant go smaller. :P |
| 16:46.32 | nevcairiel | guess could use a smaller atom! |
| 16:49.00 | karl_w_w | yes, news about a discovery that happened in australia yesterday took a year to get to australia |
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| 17:15.08 | bluworkcow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4079870130 |
| 17:15.12 | bluworkcow | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:15.48 | bluworkcow | his argument seems to consist of "well i've been coming to burgur king to eat lunch for years. therefore they should give me free burgers for all the money i've spent with them over the years" |
| 17:17.05 | bluworkcow | kk i go homes nows |
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| 18:00.31 | alestane | http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/02/09/gender-swapped-archie-betty-veronica-valentines/?a_dgi=aolshare_facebook |
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| 19:21.34 | Fisker | so Parnic |
| 19:21.37 | Fisker | don't lie to me |
| 19:22.04 | Thunder_Child | so Fisker, what are you going to do about it? |
| 19:22.25 | Fisker | about what? |
| 19:26.00 | Thunder_Child | about it. duh. |
| 19:27.01 | Lopeppeppy | You know. Life. the Universe. Everything. |
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| 19:59.10 | Lunessa | Hello ladies. Station, gentlemen. |
| 19:59.30 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Lunessa. A merry un-holiday to you. |
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| 19:59.45 | Lunessa | A very happy un-birthday to you! |
| 20:00.03 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:00.15 | Lopeppeppy | Dude, I already had both breakfast and lunch. you're LATE. |
| 20:00.30 | Lunessa | It was the best butter. |
| 20:00.42 | Lopeppeppy | flings a tea cup at Lunessa's head. |
| 20:00.58 | Lunessa | asks the Doormouse for more sugar. |
| 20:01.16 | Mikk | so how the fuck are you supposed to avoid hagaras ice shatter rng |
| 20:01.24 | Mikk | 3 stacks + shatter = ded |
| 20:02.27 | Fisker | don't get more than 3 stacks |
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| 20:04.08 | Lopeppeppy | holds out a mallet. One lump or two? |
| 20:04.46 | Lunessa | <pete puma>You better give me a lotta lumps; a whooooooooooole lotta lumps.</pete puma> |
| 20:04.59 | Lopeppeppy | rawr, baby |
| 20:05.55 | Lunessa | At one point, when Laser Disc was king, I had over 300 hours of Warner Bros. cartoons on Laser Disc. They were a staple of my entertainment. |
| 20:06.25 | Fisker | hey Gnarfoz |
| 20:06.31 | Fisker | not so hey jnwhiteh |
| 20:08.18 | Mikk | i mean |
| 20:08.22 | Mikk | we have frost phase under control |
| 20:08.25 | Lopeppeppy | Laser... disk... *giggle* |
| 20:08.25 | Mikk | we haev lightning phase under control |
| 20:08.29 | Lopeppeppy | he said disk! |
| 20:08.31 | Mikk | normal phase? BÄM you are dead |
| 20:08.49 | Mikk | happence once -> brez |
| 20:08.56 | Mikk | 2nd time -> baibai dont have enough for lightning links |
| 20:08.59 | Mikk | wtf |
| 20:13.40 | Adys_ | "Is there a browser out there that wouldn't mind leaving my security and privacy concerns up to me, alone?" |
| 20:14.10 | Adys_ | it's cute when they think they're smarter than security engineers |
| 20:14.51 | Adys | "I'm sure I'm better at security than a specifically-crafted piece of software" |
| 20:15.48 | Cide | Mikk: ban you are dead to what? |
| 20:15.50 | Cide | bam* |
| 20:15.57 | Cide | oh |
| 20:15.58 | Cide | it's easy |
| 20:16.10 | Cide | #1: it only targets a 180 degree cone in front of her |
| 20:16.13 | Cide | so place the raid behind her |
| 20:16.38 | Cide | #2: if you have a dk tank, you win instantly by using AMS if he gets targeted by ice lance |
| 20:17.05 | Cide | #2, part 2: if not, place a shaman in the tank's group and drop grounding totem when the tank gets targeted by ice lance (absorbs shattered ice) |
| 20:19.42 | Fisker | btw Cide |
| 20:19.46 | Fisker | hello |
| 20:22.17 | Lunessa | Adys: People, even paranoids like me, are terrible at being educated enough to actually do the whole job. |
| 20:22.32 | Adys | Lunessa: my point exactly |
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| 20:24.52 | Cide | it's easy |
| 20:25.14 | Cide | just write a telnet wrapper and implement SSL yourself |
| 20:26.24 | Cide | fuck that, just use sockets |
| 20:30.00 | Lunessa | I'm amused at all the tools being written to give broswers stateful, persistent connections to servers. Welcome to 1995. |
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| 20:30.55 | Nechckn | Lunessa It was all of that phat AOL cash financing your laser disk lifestyle. ;-) |
| 20:31.14 | Lunessa | Nechckn: You got that right. PHAT STACKS BITCHES |
| 20:31.28 | Nechckn | hehehehe |
| 20:34.22 | Silversage | Anyone installed lua-wow on a mac recently? Where does the binary end up? |
| 20:34.47 | Lopeppeppy | waves to Silversage. |
| 20:34.50 | Nechckn | Silversage!!! |
| 20:35.09 | Nechckn | Do mine eyes betray me? Tis you? |
| 20:35.15 | Silversage | huggles Lopeppeppy. |
| 20:35.27 | Silversage | Yeppers. Crawling out from under my IDE. |
| 20:35.41 | Lunessa | waves |
| 20:35.55 | Silversage | waves personally to you. |
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| 20:36.47 | Lunessa | We totally missed a shot at In-N-Out burgers at BlizzCon. :/ |
| 20:37.03 | Silversage | Yeah. |
| 20:37.18 | Silversage | And worse, Tommy's. I can get In-N-Out in NorCal. |
| 20:37.46 | Lunessa | Oh dear god, a Tommy Burger. |
| 20:37.58 | Silversage | With heavy chili. |
| 20:38.00 | Lunessa | YES |
| 20:38.13 | Lunessa | I would smack my mom for one of those. |
| 20:38.22 | Lopeppeppy | A peanut butter and jellyfish sandwich, heavy on the mako, hold the grunion. |
| 20:38.23 | Nechckn | I am not knowing where lua-wow ends up, however - so no fun there. Finder? |
| 20:39.05 | Silversage | I personally have eaten a Tommy's double-cheeseburger (heavy chili) in 3 bites, according to Hoyle's rules. |
| 20:39.46 | Sintacks | My girlfriend is like my iPad. I don't have an iPad. foreveralone.tiff |
| 20:40.06 | Nechckn | Ha! |
| 20:40.55 | Lunessa | Silversage: I have never tried, but Tommy's was a Friday/Saturday 3am tradition when I was in college. |
| 20:41.30 | Silversage | I was in a more 1am crowd, but yes. |
| 20:42.02 | Lunessa | D&D game ended at about 2am, and then getting everyone to carvan over took a while. |
| 20:42.50 | Silversage | Alternate question: What's an easy way to distinguish a standard lua 5 binary from the lua-wow one? I'm wondering if the one I'm looking at is lua-wow... |
| 20:43.12 | Silversage | I avoided D&D in college. It looked too interesting. |
| 20:44.52 | Nechckn | wants a vidoe conference AD&D game with moderate folks... |
| 20:46.03 | Lunessa | would get in on that action. |
| 20:47.45 | Silversage | What's really needed is something like this for RPGers: http://googdate.wordpress.com/ |
| 20:48.08 | Silversage | is felling trollish on America these days. |
| 20:48.12 | Silversage | *feeling |
| 20:48.42 | Nechckn | Lunessa we should consider this. I know a few decent GMs - or used to anyway. |
| 20:49.19 | Lunessa | I used to be a pretty good one. I haven't gotten to play but a couple of times since October 2005. |
| 20:50.18 | Silversage | I'd be game if you don't mind a total n00b. |
| 20:50.53 | Silversage | Google hangouts is making VC downright trivial. |
| 20:51.28 | Lopeppeppy | True. |
| 20:51.31 | Lunessa | Yeah, a Google+ Hangout would work for it pretty well. |
| 20:51.54 | Nechckn | Lopeppeppy would play! Right, Ms. Sexy Lady? |
| 20:52.13 | Nechckn | We could drag Cairenn|afk in kicking and screaming, too. |
| 20:52.20 | Lunessa | Hell, I'll dig up rule books if there's enough interest. pretty much any version of D&D, Hero System, Cyberpunk 2020, or other games. |
| 20:52.25 | Lopeppeppy | Mostly, yes, but I don't own a web cam and would never buy one, so that usually disqualifies me. :) |
| 20:52.30 | Silversage | Answer to my own question: print(bit) or print(bit.band(7, 13)) |
| 20:53.05 | Silversage | And it turns out that lua-wow installs itself in the standard place, but leaves no identifying markings that it's a non-standard version of lua. |
| 20:53.05 | Nechckn | Well, the video part is sort of optional, even voice would work, save for the GM, I guess. |
| 20:53.21 | Silversage | Facial expressions help so much. |
| 20:54.35 | Nechckn | I would be willing to try any of them, Lunessa - have a soft spot for AD&D, but, whatever would work. |
| 20:54.47 | Lopeppeppy | Means I can never get away with laughing myself silly. :) |
| 20:55.04 | Lunessa | Let me rummage around the house tonight after work and see what I still have books for. |
| 20:55.13 | Silversage | I ... don't even know what that means, Peppy. |
| 20:55.28 | Silversage | o.O You're at work, Lunessa? |
| 20:55.53 | Lunessa | Yeah, no President's Day holiday for my University. |
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| 20:56.19 | Lopeppeppy | If I have a web cam, I can't get away with laughing - everyone could see. |
| 20:56.41 | Silversage | Peppy: I think you're allowed to be dressed for D&D. |
| 20:56.52 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, yay! |
| 20:57.20 | Silversage | But you would have to check with the DM to be sure. |
| 20:57.21 | Lunessa | If you're playing in a game I'm running, please, please, please be wearing clothes. And keep the cheetos dust off the screen. |
| 20:57.47 | Silversage | Lunessa: I assume "underpants" counts as clothes... |
| 20:58.02 | Lunessa | … More clothes. please. |
| 20:58.09 | Nechckn | Strip D&D?!?!? Yikes... |
| 20:58.15 | Silversage | Hmm. |
| 20:58.27 | Dagmar | Shades of Penny Arcade right there. No thanks. |
| 20:58.30 | Lunessa | I have run games with adult themes, but never outright… yeah, no. |
| 20:58.34 | Silversage | Maybe Google hangouts has a way to add artificial cloths. Like their beards and stuff. |
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| 21:12.56 | Lopeppeppy | Like internet versions of paper dolls. |
| 21:14.57 | Silversage | Except that looking at uncovered paper dolls does not induce PTSD. |
| 21:22.04 | Lopeppeppy | For *you* |
| 21:30.32 | Silversage | Development tools and hacks on a new machine are like straight pins in a new shirt. |
| 21:31.13 | Silversage | You don't need to find them. They find you. Things I did once to get set up on my old machine, and forgot I'd need to do on a new machine... |
| 21:33.48 | Silversage | Anyone ever done any coding with Fibonacci-weighted aggregation? (And btw, tidbit I learned today: Fibonacci was responsible for introducing arabic numerals to Europeans, at least the elite.) |
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| 21:41.55 | Nechckn | You are making my tiny brain hurt, Silversage! |
| 21:42.55 | Lunessa | HULK SMASH |
| 21:49.31 | Mikk | Cide: Thank you. The 180 degree frontal info helped. |
| 21:49.35 | Mikk | Totally missed that. |
| 21:49.38 | Mikk | put it on wowpedia now. |
| 21:50.57 | ccox | From a PUG in Tolvir: "what language are those pygmies speaking?" "Tech Support" |
| 21:52.50 | Lunessa | … /dies |
| 22:01.26 | Silversage | Ooo. Just had a lesson in lua. I had always assumed that --[[ comments were the natural fallout of treating [[...]] as long strings and -- as a one-line comment. But no. --[[ is special, and you can't leave a space between -- and [[. |
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| 22:04.58 | Cide | Mikk: cool |
| 22:05.00 | Cide | also, grounding totem! |
| 22:05.21 | Dagmar | Silversage: The best are when the "devlopers" report them to you. |
| 22:05.23 | Cide | but remember that it only works on people targeted inside the casting shaman's party |
| 22:05.46 | Dagmar | Silversage: I fielded a service ticket this morning about someone's site being down. |
| 22:06.18 | Dagmar | Mind you it was referenced by the URL http://www.largeuniversity.edu/alumni |
| 22:06.37 | Maldivia | lol |
| 22:06.41 | Dagmar | I look, sure enough, the server is fine but their "enitre site" is a "connection reset while sending" message. |
| 22:06.57 | Dagmar | I look in the error log, there's a fatal PHP error coming up every time. |
| 22:07.25 | Dagmar | I look at the PHP script, it's trying to pull a stylesheet from the test network (which can't be reached from the production network for a reason). |
| 22:07.37 | Dagmar | The date on this script is January 23rd. |
| 22:08.06 | Lunessa | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/02/google-tricks-internet-explorer-into-accepting-tracking-cookies-microsoft-claims.ars *sigh* |
| 22:08.18 | Dagmar | Lunessa: That is hilarious |
| 22:08.51 | Dagmar | "Google deliberately tricks our browser by sending a string that just contains stuff! They're cheating!" |
| 22:09.15 | Lunessa | The "update" is the part that really ticks me off. If Facebook does something and gets away with it, everyone does it "because facebook does." |
| 22:09.24 | Lunessa | How much you want to be Pintrest does this too? |
| 22:09.28 | Lunessa | bet? |
| 22:09.53 | Dagmar | Oh it's not what google is "getting away wth" |
| 22:10.04 | ccox | lol at Google, bigger lol at Microsoft |
| 22:10.09 | Dagmar | The issue is that their bullshit P3P code _doesn't even look at what the fuck it's being told_. |
| 22:10.35 | Lunessa | It's just a binary check. "Does it have X" Y/N? |
| 22:10.36 | Dagmar | Google _isn't_ sending anything like valid tokens. Sane software would deduce that they don't have any recognizable policy directives. |
| 22:11.18 | Dagmar | ...but frankly if IE is stupid enough to take garbage input to mean "trust them for everything" then I think Google was right to exploit it. |
| 22:11.30 | Lunessa | It's just… HAI GUYZ, LETS TELL USERS WE LOVE THEIR PRIVACY, BUT REALLY NONE OF US GIVE A SHIT, K? |
| 22:11.38 | Dagmar | ...although it's equally likely it was "just working" and Google never bothered to look into why. |
| 22:12.36 | Dagmar | Lunessa: No, apparently if the thing had given tokens meaning "We watch you while you sleep" and "We intend to sell pictures of you naked in the shower on the Chinese eBay" IE would have also considered those to be acceptable privacy policies. |
| 22:12.45 | Lunessa | Because really, anyone making money by advertising on the 'net really gives two shits about getting this right. |
| 22:12.52 | Dagmar | Microsoft is basically complaining that Google benefited from their retarded "trust everything" design. |
| 22:13.05 | Lunessa | No, I totally get it. |
| 22:13.26 | Dagmar | Reasonable software should have decided that since no valid directives were found, the site shoudnt' be trusted. |
| 22:14.00 | Dagmar | You could put the phrase "My perfeect penis says so." in there and it would have the same effect. |
| 22:14.26 | Lunessa | Dagmar: I get it, I'm making the larger argument. |
| 22:14.53 | Silversage | "If cookies are outlawed, only outlaws will use cookies." |
| 22:15.01 | Dagmar | I think they're just smokescreening to try and keep people from noticing that their proposal is shit. |
| 22:15.30 | Dagmar | They're saying that browsers that make this insane determination are P3P-compliant. |
| 22:18.32 | Lunessa | The truth is, there's not a real incentive to get privacy "right" - in a financial sense. You make your money serving the masters who want more information, not from the people who want you to give out less. |
| 22:22.09 | Dagmar | I was reading about that during a smokebreak earlier |
| 22:22.17 | Dagmar | I'm just dumbfounded. |
| 22:22.57 | Dagmar | This is the most blatant shill from drumming up DoJ problems for Google that I've seen in some time. |
| 22:23.03 | Dagmar | s/from/for/ |
| 22:24.15 | Maldivia | Dagmar: you mean the "let's highlight a bug in our product, so we can make a competitor look evil"? |
| 22:24.38 | Lunessa | Once your company has felt the sting of the DoJ (anti-trust, anti-competivieness, or what have you) you can't wait to see someone else get nailed with the same bullets. |
| 22:25.04 | Dagmar | Maldivia: Not _just_ their product. If the rest of what they're saying is true (and I suspect it is, because this is a common technique for bullshitting) then the documents that define how P3P is supposed to work are fucking worthless. |
| 22:25.14 | Dagmar | ...and Microsoft apparently came up with that. |
| 22:25.40 | Maldivia | it's a security protocol... build on trust |
| 22:25.44 | Dagmar | Yep. |
| 22:25.57 | Maldivia | that's just plain stupid |
| 22:26.08 | Dagmar | Might as well just have a website that if the user gets the password wrong three times, goes ahead and logs them in anyway, and then sends them a link to reset their password. |
| 22:26.26 | Dagmar | I thought at first someone was just trolling HNN |
| 22:26.35 | Lunessa | Nah, why even bother with passwords then? |
| 22:26.48 | Lunessa | (please note, that was me, trolling) |
| 22:26.49 | Dagmar | Lunessa: because passwords provide security don'tchaknow |
| 22:27.12 | Dagmar | I protect my monitor by covering it with sticknotes that have passwords written on them. |
| 22:27.18 | Dagmar | Haven't had the monitor fail yet. |
| 22:31.19 | Mikk | i need the picture of the naxxramas raider with sticky notes all over his monitor |
| 22:31.22 | Mikk | saying like "^ north" |
| 22:31.38 | Mikk | and to not melee those dudes that spinny |
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