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| 00:22.28 | BlackNet | uh oh |
| 00:22.47 | BlackNet | cant ssh into my server |
| 00:24.01 | BlackNet | would hate to ruin my 2 1/2 year uptime |
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| 00:24.43 | Trillonix | Hello people. |
| 00:25.24 | Trillonix | I'm having an issue with my addon and Bartender4 and hoping someone can help me understand what is happening.. |
| 00:25.54 | TC-Work | ~asktoask |
| 00:25.54 | purl | Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help, if they can. |
| 00:26.25 | Trillonix | My addon runs fine on its own, but as soon as I load Bartender4 I get an error message.. coming shortly.. |
| 00:26.37 | Trillonix | Message: Interface\FrameXML\RestrictedExecution.lua:375: Cannot declare closure factories from insecure code |
| 00:26.37 | Trillonix | Time: 02/16/12 17:23:02 |
| 00:26.37 | Trillonix | Count: 1 |
| 00:26.37 | Trillonix | Stack: [C]: ? |
| 00:26.37 | Trillonix | Interface\FrameXML\RestrictedExecution.lua:375: in function <Interface\FrameXML\RestrictedExecution.lua:367> |
| 00:26.37 | Trillonix | Interface\FrameXML\RestrictedExecution.lua:419: in function <Interface\FrameXML\RestrictedExecution.lua:412> |
| 00:26.37 | Trillonix | Interface\FrameXML\SecureHandlers.lua:389: in function <Interface\FrameXML\SecureHandlers.lua:380> |
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| 00:26.38 | Trillonix | (tail call): ? |
| 00:26.38 | Trillonix | Locals: (*temporary) = "Cannot declare closure factories from insecure code" |
| 00:26.56 | TC-Work | pastebin.com |
| 00:27.06 | TC-Work | please do not spam |
| 00:27.50 | Trillonix | not trying to.. just wanted to post the error that I got |
| 00:28.00 | TC-Work | which is what pastebin is for |
| 00:28.13 | Trillonix | I'm not familiar with pastebin |
| 00:28.39 | kd3 | go to pastebin.com, paste whatever output is important to you. you'll get a url back. paste that url in here |
| 00:28.52 | Trillonix | ok.. |
| 00:30.08 | Trillonix | ok.. here is the link.. http://pastebin.com/6ACmMm2x |
| 00:30.53 | foxlit | "Excellent work..." "Fire is pretty!" |
| 00:31.44 | Trillonix | so can anyone help me understand what is happening? |
| 00:33.02 | foxlit | Your addon tainted the restricted execution framework. |
| 00:33.38 | Trillonix | ok.. so where do I start to untaint it? I don't really have a reference of what is causing the problem in my addon.. |
| 00:33.48 | foxlit | What does your addon do? |
| 00:33.52 | Trillonix | im still rather new at coding |
| 00:34.01 | Trillonix | well there are a few things.. |
| 00:34.14 | BlackNet | tainting is a stupid setup they have in the layout |
| 00:34.53 | Trillonix | it finds spell cool downs, collects player gear info, and also collects bag inventory in the players bags, bank, and guild bank. |
| 00:35.06 | Trillonix | oh. and it has a small dps meter |
| 00:35.19 | Mikk | Trillonix: basically what you've done somewhere is that you've overwritten a variable declared in framexml that you shouldnt have |
| 00:35.27 | Mikk | table, function ... |
| 00:35.40 | Mikk | then blizzard's code goes and calls/touches it |
| 00:35.41 | Mikk | and BAM |
| 00:36.04 | Trillonix | hmm.. ok.. so again.. how do I know which one I did that to? |
| 00:36.14 | Trillonix | sorry for the dumb questions.. |
| 00:36.33 | Mikk | http://www.wowace.com/addons/findglobals/ might shed some light on the issue |
| 00:36.54 | Mikk | or activating taintlog but that's a lot of stuff to scan through |
| 00:36.56 | Trillonix | is that an addon? |
| 00:36.59 | Mikk | no |
| 00:37.02 | Mikk | lua code analyzer |
| 00:37.11 | Trillonix | hmm.. ok.. thats cool |
| 00:38.04 | Mikk | but like i said there's also the taint log |
| 00:38.19 | BlackNet | you can call stock blizz functions and they will taint like hell |
| 00:38.23 | Mikk | http://www.wowpedia.org/CVar_taintLog |
| 00:38.23 | Trillonix | ok.. I turn that on with /console taintlog1 ? |
| 00:38.27 | Mikk | yes |
| 00:38.49 | Mikk | then go looking for mentions of your addon |
| 00:38.49 | Trillonix | ok.. do I have to turn it on after every console reload also? |
| 00:39.03 | BlackNet | no |
| 00:39.11 | Mikk | stays enabled until you turn off |
| 00:39.23 | Trillonix | I have tried to turn on the taint log.. but can't seem to find wheree the file is to look at it. |
| 00:39.30 | Mikk | logs\taint.log |
| 00:39.42 | Trillonix | ok.. I will have a look.. thanks muchly.. |
| 00:39.48 | Mikk | http://www.wowpedia.org/CVar_taintLog |
| 00:39.50 | Mikk | ^ info you want |
| 00:39.51 | Arrowmaster | this seems like something lunessa would do http://imgur.com/a/bedAM |
| 00:40.10 | Trillonix | I'll probably be back with more questions.. lol |
| 00:41.08 | foxlit | tainting restrictedeecution is weird, though |
| 00:41.27 | foxlit | You'd actually have to go out of your way :/ |
| 00:41.38 | Trillonix | I checked out the wowpedia taint log you posted there.. but it says there is currently no text in this page |
| 00:42.02 | Trillonix | apparently I did go out of my way on that one.. ;) |
| 00:42.38 | Trillonix | does the taint log only show up when I quit wow? |
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| 00:43.44 | aggixx | Quick question for you guys that I'm hoping someone can help me with: I'm trying to compare timestamp return by CLEU event to time() but I'm running into an accuracy issue. It seems like the value returned by CLEU is server time whereas time() returns local time. What's the best way to work around this? |
| 00:44.00 | foxlit | don't. |
| 00:44.07 | foxlit | CLEU timestamps are madness. |
| 00:44.47 | foxlit | the sequence of events you receive from the server is not actually ordered properly; timestamps or not. |
| 00:45.00 | aggixx | Hmm... just run time() at the time the event was recieved and use it instead of timestamp? Seems simple enough. |
| 00:45.46 | foxlit | Depends on what you want to do, really |
| 00:46.14 | aggixx | just doing a cooldown tracker for Rebirths, millisecond precision isn't necessary |
| 00:46.15 | foxlit | The problem is that you'd still run into impossible event sequences: you get healed for 5, hit for 3, you die. |
| 00:46.36 | foxlit | In that case, just grab time(), or whatever reference clock you want. |
| 00:47.02 | foxlit | (maybe GetTime()?) |
| 00:47.06 | aggixx | Yeah, that's the new plan. Thanks! |
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| 01:13.37 | Shirik | http://i.imgur.com/AfSiE.jpg |
| 01:13.38 | Shirik | wtf |
| 01:15.02 | Nechckn | All thanks to the pseudo banking reforms |
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| 01:18.34 | Mikk | 116% ... isn't that like 100% too much |
| 01:19.09 | Trillonix | Hi again.. |
| 01:19.19 | Trillonix | so I ran the taint log and got http://pastebin.com/5Qn3gmi3 |
| 01:19.23 | Nechckn | Agreed, Mikk |
| 01:19.51 | Trillonix | I looked at my code in that particular spot and found.. |
| 01:20.07 | Trillonix | timestamp,minievent,_,guidsource,playerName,_,_,destGUID,destName,_,_,spellid,spellName,spellSchool = ... |
| 01:20.18 | Mikk | missing a "local" before that |
| 01:20.31 | Trillonix | thats it?? |
| 01:20.31 | Mikk | which blizzard's code also does |
| 01:20.34 | p3lim | Unless its defined by a local before the function itself |
| 01:20.43 | Mikk | so you both end up working with the global variable "destName" |
| 01:20.51 | Trillonix | bloody hell |
| 01:20.53 | Trillonix | lol |
| 01:21.03 | Dagmar | Shirik: I'm suprised the native americans even tolerate that |
| 01:21.12 | p3lim | Trillonix: mind a pastey of the 10 lines before and after that line? |
| 01:21.31 | Trillonix | sure.. in my code I'm assuming you mean |
| 01:21.37 | p3lim | Yeah |
| 01:23.34 | Trillonix | here is the entire funtion that the first line I gave is in... http://pastebin.com/K6gPCye8 |
| 01:23.45 | Trillonix | that paste bin is kinda neat.. lol |
| 01:24.39 | Shirik | lol. |
| 01:25.04 | Shirik | I log into my fidelity account and see "Service Messages (12 new)" |
| 01:25.19 | Shirik | All 12 of them say "We have received your request for a Roth Recharacterization." |
| 01:25.40 | p3lim | just add local before everything on line 23 and you won't see that taint again |
| 01:25.51 | Shirik | maybe that will teach them to not have a stupid form I have to fill out 12 times |
| 01:26.24 | Trillonix | I can't believe that is all that is causing that.. |
| 01:27.28 | p3lim | May I ask why you are using an OnUpdate script for that? |
| 01:27.32 | Trillonix | also.. if you don't mind.. Im hoping to get a bit of constructive critisizm about my code.. can you offer anything? |
| 01:27.55 | Trillonix | umm.. gimme a sec.. have to figure out why again |
| 01:27.56 | Trillonix | lol |
| 01:27.58 | bluspacecow | try not to use OnUpdate at all |
| 01:29.01 | bluspacecow | make it wait for an event then do your code |
| 01:29.15 | bluspacecow | otherwise your code will be firing too often , wasting clock cycles |
| 01:31.06 | Trillonix | here is some of the other stuff that ties into that.. http://pastebin.com/2tTjZ3Ai |
| 01:31.34 | Trillonix | honestly I can't remember exactly why I used it.. but I do turn it off after the 0.3 sec timer runs |
| 01:34.06 | p3lim | Was bored, so cleaned up that code: http://pastebin.com/g5rHrkXb |
| 01:34.12 | p3lim | (Your first paste) |
| 01:35.12 | p3lim | What do you ultimately want your addon to do? |
| 01:35.25 | Trillonix | there are a few things that it does.. |
| 01:35.34 | Trillonix | that is jhust a small part really.. |
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| 01:36.13 | Trillonix | cooldown notifier.. dps meter.. bag bank and guild inventory.. player gear collector |
| 01:36.28 | Trillonix | started out with just the gear stuff.. then grew from there. |
| 01:38.43 | p3lim | If I were you, I'd split up the whole thing into multiple addons |
| 01:39.00 | p3lim | Because that seems like a lot of different things in one single addon |
| 01:39.04 | Trillonix | Thanks for the rework.. I did have something similar to that I think, and I was finding that when certain spells were cast and the buff was proc'd at the same time I was getting the wrong info back.. so I threw the entries into the table and gathered it from there. |
| 01:39.15 | Trillonix | it is a lot for sure.. |
| 01:39.47 | p3lim | If you want to track cooldowns, I'd suggest you use the event SPELL_UPDATE_COOLDOWN and the function GetSpellCooldown |
| 01:40.07 | Trillonix | so would I split it up, and make each one dependant on the other as they are all in the same visible graphics.. hope that makes sense |
| 01:40.51 | Trillonix | ok.. I will have to give that a try... I tend to make things harder on myself sometimes. ;) |
| 01:42.37 | Trillonix | very much appreciate your help btw |
| 01:42.46 | Trillonix | and the others too |
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| 02:31.46 | Arrowmaster | kd3: i just noticed the worst change in gnome3, nautilus is reporting file sizes in MB instead of MiB |
| 02:31.52 | Arrowmaster | any idea how to fix |
| 02:31.56 | Shirik | worst? |
| 02:32.03 | Shirik | sounds like a pro change to me |
| 02:32.13 | Arrowmaster | horrible change |
| 02:32.20 | Arrowmaster | this is one reason i will NEVER use a mac |
| 02:32.32 | Arrowmaster | incorrect file size reporting |
| 02:33.32 | foxlit | totally legit reason. |
| 02:35.26 | foxlit | See also: NEVER using roads because you don't like the color of asphalt. |
| 02:36.42 | Arrowmaster | i mean i will never purchase and use osx, if i absolutely have to i will use it but i will never choose to use it when other alternatives are available |
| 02:38.14 | Arrowmaster | just checked and its not using libkibi..... seriously gnome if you are going to do something this stupid at least do it correctly |
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| 03:47.47 | Sintacks | can you do mass mail with postal... |
| 03:47.52 | Sintacks | mass outgoing* |
| 04:01.54 | Sintacks | lol wat. there's a limit to how many people you can send mail to? that's gay |
| 04:02.13 | kd3 | well, sure. you don't remember the goldseller mail spam? |
| 04:03.38 | Sintacks | i didn't play back then |
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| 04:11.18 | Sintacks | well, gay |
| 04:11.25 | Sintacks | i was sending guildies in this raid cookies |
| 04:11.25 | Sintacks | D: |
| 04:13.03 | karl_w_w | fortune cookies? |
| 04:13.50 | Sintacks | no |
| 04:13.56 | Sintacks | chocolate |
| 04:14.11 | Sintacks | 20 people seems to be the limit |
| 04:14.30 | karl_w_w | does it reset if u relog? |
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| 04:15.06 | Sintacks | i highly doubt it |
| 04:15.15 | Sintacks | and i don't know if it resets when they open their mail either |
| 04:18.28 | Arrowmaster | thats strange, connection to this server is failing because im getting RST, ACK packets back |
| 04:20.49 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:20.52 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:20.56 | Sintacks | coughs. |
| 04:29.57 | Sintacks | oh hey |
| 04:29.58 | Sintacks | he ded |
| 04:37.06 | Dagmar | Might as well put in a GM ticket and ask about the limiter |
| 04:37.21 | Dagmar | Maybe it resets every hour |
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| 04:45.02 | Sintacks | Sintacks's Friendly Fire: |
| 04:45.02 | Sintacks | Blood of Deathwing 25 17,275,084 |
| 04:45.03 | Sintacks | lul |
| 05:01.06 | TC-Work | I'm going to pull a Fisker and say I am going to kill you Sintacks |
| 05:01.15 | TC-Work | I am going to kill you Sintacks |
| 05:04.19 | TC-Work | ~8ball |
| 05:04.20 | purl | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: Most likely |
| 05:17.15 | bluspacecow | http://www.quiterly.com/2466/to-do-list?ref=nf |
| 05:17.18 | bluspacecow | i lolzed |
| 05:18.58 | TC-Work | they lie! |
| 05:19.16 | TC-Work | you cant write 'in progress' while you are napping |
| 05:19.42 | bluspacecow | http://www.quiterly.com/2459/baked-cookie-is-so-baked?ref=nf |
| 05:22.18 | TC-Work | damn you bluspacecow, now you have me clicking through that damn site |
| 05:22.31 | bluspacecow | my work is done. |
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| 05:32.26 | TC-Work | http://www.quiterly.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/womans-logic2.jpg that has bothered me for so long |
| 05:36.33 | bluspacecow | Maldivia: looks like another build hit the PTR |
| 05:37.59 | bluspacecow | 50 MB one , 16.4 of which is just updates folder stuff. could be some siginficant upgrades in this build |
| 05:43.45 | kd3 | eek! 16 espresso shots in a drink? |
| 05:44.01 | kd3 | lua>16*75 |
| 05:44.01 | lua_bot | kd3: 1200 |
| 05:44.28 | kd3 | 1200mg of caffeine. wtf |
| 05:46.10 | kd3 | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2102172/Most-expensive-Starbucks-ordered-Texas-costs-23.html |
| 05:47.39 | TC-Work | i once tried 4 shots of espresso for my boss at the time and the starbucks people said fuck no |
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| 05:47.47 | TC-Work | tried to get* |
| 05:48.08 | TC-Work | i guess texas is a bit more relaxed |
| 05:48.39 | Iriel | I've never had them refuse 4 shots |
| 05:48.46 | kd3 | me either |
| 05:48.50 | Iriel | though I suppose it depends on the size of the drink they're going in |
| 05:48.57 | kd3 | you want a 6-shot venti? no prob |
| 05:49.02 | Iriel | Exactly |
| 05:49.03 | Arrowmaster | only 1400mg of caffeine? |
| 05:49.07 | Arrowmaster | weak |
| 05:52.06 | kd3 | huh. the ptr launcher's automagically repairing my install for me |
| 05:52.23 | Arrowmaster | and the pic caption at the bottom says he didnt even drink it |
| 05:52.36 | Arrowmaster | fucking lightweight |
| 05:52.53 | kd3 | there's no possible way it came out anywhere near frozen |
| 05:53.13 | kd3 | thawed-out frapps taste bad as it is... with that kind of stale espresso? yuk |
| 05:53.27 | Arrowmaster | then why even order it |
| 05:54.03 | TC-Work | because you can? |
| 05:54.13 | kd3 | (tfa) because he got a free drink on his birthday and he wanted to be the most expensive possible? |
| 05:54.29 | Iriel | So because he's a jackass? |
| 05:54.33 | Arrowmaster | exactly |
| 05:54.45 | kd3 | looks like it. the receipt's near the bottom |
| 05:57.13 | Iriel | What a completely retarded "news story" |
| 05:57.27 | kd3 | it's the daily mail. like you expect anything better out of them? |
| 05:57.35 | Arrowmaster | yeah its dailymail |
| 05:58.38 | Iriel | Yeah, but i've seen it linked all over the place today |
| 06:02.49 | TC-Work | anyone know a good way to test for IR Interference? |
| 06:04.02 | Arrowmaster | things still use IR (other than tv remotes) |
| 06:04.05 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 06:04.27 | Iriel | Certain fluorescent lights generate quite a bit of interference |
| 06:04.55 | TC-Work | there are virtually no lights in this building |
| 06:05.10 | TC-Work | except for desk based things |
| 06:05.27 | TC-Work | it is a remote |
| 06:07.31 | kd3 | emails out |
| 06:08.05 | Arrowmaster | wow first time in a long time i didnt hear the phone beep before you said that |
| 06:08.44 | amro | there can only be one explanation: kd3 invented time travel |
| 06:09.42 | TC-Work | reinvented |
| 06:12.00 | pompy | kd3: what ptr? |
| 06:12.09 | kd3 | 4.3.3 |
| 06:12.55 | pompy | thought they said 4.3.2 was the last one! |
| 06:13.41 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 06:13.49 | bluspacecow | they trolled you on that one |
| 06:14.04 | bluspacecow | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2978624/wow_ptr_4.3.3.15314.jpg |
| 06:15.14 | pompy | nice |
| 06:15.47 | bluspacecow | the new MPQ files don't appear to have much in them for changes - just place holders for sounds and the usual tools backup stuff |
| 06:16.20 | bluspacecow | i have a feeling a slightly larger build is still on it's way. along with an offocial PTR is open announcement |
| 06:17.30 | bluspacecow | ... |
| 06:17.36 | bluspacecow | 64 bit client's already been updated for it\ |
| 06:18.28 | kd3 | I suspect they've hooked the 64-bit client into the release system |
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| 06:28.16 | BlackNet | so we get another patch? |
| 06:30.29 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 06:33.14 | ccox | ugh. There is a skunk under my back porch. My air vents run under the house, and are sort of exposed to vents under the porch, and at least one of those vents has a leak. My house currently has an eye watering case of skunk funk. |
| 06:34.18 | ccox | and it's worse if I open a window. Wow. |
| 06:35.01 | Arrowmaster | you think thats bad? neighbor caught a skunk in his kitchen eating the cat food |
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| 07:53.55 | Maldivia | bluspacecow: yeah, seems so :) |
| 07:58.24 | Maldivia | bluspacecow: did you get a mail then ? |
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| 08:03.11 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 08:03.30 | bluspacecow | what kind of email *eye waggle* |
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| 08:12.48 | Maldivia | wwell, you asked me the other day to include you in patch mails |
| 08:13.50 | Arrowmaster | hope the d3 patch comes out today so we dont have to wait till next week |
| 08:14.41 | Arrowmaster | and with that i think ill head to bed |
| 08:15.27 | Maldivia | good night then.. I'll go to work instead |
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| 10:54.15 | jnwhiteh | Anyone here willing to take a quick look at my CV to give final opinions before I send it off? |
| 11:01.46 | jnwhiteh | IRC is eerily quiet this morning! |
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| 11:16.15 | Fisker | i'll take a look at a lot more than that jnwhiteh |
| 11:18.12 | Kalroth | I wouldn't trust Fisker |
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| 11:19.02 | Fisker | why wouldn't we get another patch BlackNet ? |
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| 11:44.10 | AcidWeb | I got player name. There is any faster way to check if he is in my guild AND he is online than checking GetGuildRosterInfo() for entire guild? |
| 11:45.44 | zenzio | I doubt it'd be faster, and be more of a hack, but you could perhaps do a /who (by code) and check for a direct name match and such |
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| 11:46.03 | zenzio | man, it's so Friday |
| 11:51.46 | AcidWeb | Because i have function triggered by GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE that maintain array with information who is online in guild and I recived feedback that is causing client lockups. I cant replicate this issue even in 1k+ member guilds. But see cpu spike so possible on worse computers that might causing ui lags. |
| 11:52.28 | AcidWeb | hmm i need throttle that. |
| 11:52.52 | zenzio | was going to say, could be if they're seeing lots of those events in a short period |
| 11:54.14 | Fisker | farts on zenzio |
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| 12:00.49 | Stanzilla | Fisker: dick |
| 12:00.53 | Fisker | pls Stanzilla |
| 12:00.54 | Fisker | why? |
| 12:01.03 | Stanzilla | because rapidshare download speed limit |
| 12:02.52 | Fisker | k |
| 12:02.53 | Fisker | pirate |
| 12:03.04 | haste | I once bought premium rapidshare for a month while completely wasted :( |
| 12:04.55 | zenzio | did you download anything at all in that month? |
| 12:05.59 | haste | I don't think so |
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| 12:14.54 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 12:14.57 | Fisker | you didn't wave yesterday :( |
| 12:15.23 | haste | I didn't you see wave |
| 12:15.50 | Fisker | you must've |
| 12:16.14 | Fisker | unless if it was a danish haste |
| 12:16.19 | Fisker | are you a danish haste haste ? |
| 12:16.39 | haste | no, I'm a norwegian haste Fisker |
| 12:16.52 | Fisker | damn |
| 12:17.01 | Fisker | so that guy with the haste vanity plates probably wasn't you? |
| 12:17.14 | haste | yep |
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| 12:39.12 | Fisker | haste |
| 12:39.18 | Fisker | you're violating the law |
| 12:39.21 | Fisker | http://www.google.com/patents?id=OfwkAAAAEBAJ&zoom=4&pg=PA2#v=onepage&q&f=false |
| 12:39.34 | Fisker | i demand a million in royalties for you using a laser pen to play with your cat |
| 12:39.48 | Fisker | a MILLION |
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| 12:49.10 | haste | I'm sorry Fisker, but I haven't used a laser pen to play with our cats |
| 12:52.44 | Fisker | i say you have |
| 12:53.44 | Kalroth | what if you use a cat to play with laser pens? |
| 13:17.16 | zenzio | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io3mSErA-Nc |
| 13:17.20 | zenzio | busted |
| 13:18.05 | Fisker | old zenzio |
| 13:18.19 | zenzio | for you maybe |
| 13:18.26 | zenzio | we don't normally even get news about Denmark |
| 13:18.44 | Fisker | it's universally old zenzio |
| 13:18.47 | Fisker | it happened in the past |
| 13:19.02 | zenzio | depends on your scope; but you do have a valid point |
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| 14:05.14 | zenzio | well hello there peppy |
| 14:05.18 | zenzio | almost weekend! |
| 14:06.27 | Lopeppeppy | Yes it is! |
| 14:06.48 | Lopeppeppy | Would you like to untangle some HTML spaghetti with me? Seems like about all I do lately, bugger it. :) |
| 14:08.53 | Kalroth | <marquee><blink><table width="100%"><tr><td><font color="red" size="12">hi Lopeppeppy</font></td></tr></table></blink></marquee> |
| 14:11.00 | Lopeppeppy | Yes! Blinky text is sooooooo in. |
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| 14:11.33 | Humbedooh | ..makes it more important, Lopeppeppy ! |
| 14:11.55 | Lopeppeppy | Like, totally tubular! |
| 14:12.18 | Humbedooh | the Internet is a series of tubes after all. |
| 14:12.32 | Lopeppeppy | And contained in a tiny box you can carry around to meetings. |
| 14:13.05 | Humbedooh | with a tiny red light that shows it's on |
| 14:15.07 | Lopeppeppy | Like a cute little horny Rudolph? |
| 14:17.08 | bluspacecow | oh hai peppy |
| 14:18.53 | Lopeppeppy | Heya. |
| 14:20.59 | bluspacecow | i think it nearly can be sleep tiems |
| 14:21.34 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh. A nap would be awesome. Save me a pillow, I'll be there in... 2.5 hours. |
| 14:21.34 | Humbedooh | http://naptiem.com indeed |
| 14:21.50 | Fisker | it is weekend Lopeppeppy |
| 14:21.51 | Fisker | umad? |
| 14:22.15 | bluspacecow | i'm on saturday already friskery fisker |
| 14:22.17 | bluspacecow | u mad? |
| 14:22.24 | Fisker | nope |
| 14:22.32 | Fisker | cause i still have more time left of the weekend |
| 14:22.32 | Fisker | umad? |
| 14:22.40 | Humbedooh | hello from the past, cow! |
| 14:22.44 | bluspacecow | na i happy |
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| 14:44.56 | Ackis | how's Australia bluspacecow? |
| 14:45.13 | Kalroth | everything is upside down |
| 14:45.33 | bluspacecow | agsgawerjn'aweha'bg'aghw'efha'efha'hef'ahefa'fhaewoguha'oeguha'gohaer |
| 14:45.42 | bluspacecow | face on keyboard |
| 14:45.44 | bluspacecow | never a good look |
| 14:46.35 | Kalroth | depends on the keyboard |
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| 14:52.41 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 14:52.43 | Fisker | not so hey Kalroth |
| 14:53.28 | Ackis | hey Fisker |
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| 14:58.35 | bluspacecow | kk it r sleepy tiems |
| 14:59.14 | Ackis | ni ni bluspacecow |
| 15:00.03 | Ackis | heroic zonozz sucks btw |
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| 15:16.09 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 15:16.12 | Fisker | why does he suck ? |
| 15:16.40 | Fisker | pls Ackis |
| 15:17.57 | Kraps | alan wake is on steam |
| 15:18.32 | Fisker | ols |
| 15:18.34 | Fisker | old |
| 15:36.46 | Lopeppeppy | Microsloth is the work of the deeeeeebil. |
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| 15:55.29 | Shirik | "slide to unlock" is patented? |
| 15:55.30 | Shirik | that's stupid |
| 15:55.55 | Dagmar | You know, we keep saying these things will happen when it comes time to explain why the patent system is broken |
| 15:56.17 | Dagmar | Somehow the people in charge of voting with the suspicious bags of money in their pockets never seem to believe us |
| 15:56.41 | Dagmar | Microsoft filed for a fucking patent on an "is not" operator as recently as 2003 |
| 15:56.55 | Torhal|work | ... |
| 15:57.04 | Cide | python has had "is not" for longer than that! |
| 15:57.16 | Dagmar | Maybe if we declared that the people who applied for the shit patent were _beaten_ for it when a judge decides it's crap we'd see a difference |
| 15:57.35 | Dagmar | Cide: And perl long before that |
| 15:57.42 | Cide | fuck perl |
| 15:57.50 | Lopeppeppy | [10:36] <+Lopeppeppy> Microsloth is the work of the deeeeeebil. |
| 15:58.00 | alestane | Careful, purl might get confused. |
| 15:58.50 | Dagmar | The only thing even remotely unique about their patent is that the operator specifically refers to checking that the reference for both variables is equal |
| 15:59.42 | Torhal|work | Python does that... |
| 15:59.51 | Mikk | one of the major problems with the american patent system |
| 15:59.53 | Dagmar | ...but they're treading into cobol territory with that shit, _and_ their patent basically makes if (\$scalara == \$scalarb) their "invention" as far as I could tell |
| 16:00.04 | Mikk | is that the USPTO is reimbursed on a per-patent-granted basis |
| 16:00.07 | Mikk | do the math |
| 16:00.19 | Dagmar | The only reasonable response to that is "fuck you" |
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| 16:00.53 | Dagmar | Mihgt as well be applying for a patent for an operation that returns the result of the addition of two non-constant values |
| 16:01.10 | Mikk | did you know that faster than light travel is patented? |
| 16:02.54 | alestane | Don't you have to patent implementations? |
| 16:04.43 | Dagmar | Hell no |
| 16:04.58 | Dagmar | I'm pretty sure they'll take applications just as long as they have a check and are not in crayon |
| 16:05.18 | Dagmar | The only thing they actually look into is patents on perpetual motion machines. |
| 16:05.31 | Dagmar | i.e., you *still* must have a functioning prototype. |
| 16:10.54 | Dagmar | What does the "line of code" say? |
| 16:11.04 | Dagmar | *argh* |
| 16:15.12 | Ackis | Fisker: what's special about alan wake being on steam? |
| 16:15.21 | Fisker | nothin Ackis |
| 16:15.23 | Fisker | why? |
| 16:15.37 | Fisker | old Shirik |
| 16:15.40 | Ackis | was just curious, I've seen a few reddit posts aboot it |
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| 16:17.46 | Fisker | all i know is that it's made by a bunch of douchebags |
| 16:21.16 | Fisker | so Ackis |
| 16:21.27 | Fisker | have you come to serve the horde? |
| 16:22.36 | Fisker | no? |
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| 16:26.06 | Fisker | hey Kalroth |
| 16:27.33 | Kalroth | hey |
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| 17:14.28 | Ackis | lol http://www.explosm.net/comics/2709/ |
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| 17:15.53 | Lopeppeppy | ... |
| 17:16.07 | Lopeppeppy | Ugh, just ugh! :) |
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| 17:19.28 | Ackis | http://www.lamebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/happyv.jpg |
| 17:22.13 | alestane | Lopeppeppy, I didn't like Axe before, and then to top it off they showed that advertisement where this city block is devastated by people too busy being captivated by oether peoples' body wash to pay attention to what theyre doing. |
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| 17:24.52 | Lopeppeppy | I'm allergic to all of that scented crap, so I hate it all. |
| 17:25.13 | Lopeppeppy | Been known to make a guy take a shower before I'll snuggle. Unless he likes me sneezing in his face. :) |
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| 17:29.52 | Thunder_Child | it's not his face you would be sneezing in.... |
| 17:30.06 | Thunder_Child | makes a run for it |
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| 17:31.41 | AcidWeb | I must admit d3db crew found really impressive way to completly melt their servers |
| 17:33.23 | Lopeppeppy | TC. I will be hiring a hit man very very soon. You are warned. |
| 17:33.28 | Lopeppeppy | ~whaleslap Thunder_Child |
| 17:33.28 | purl | ACTION beats Thunder_Child upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
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| 17:47.09 | Yoshimo | does the api call for completed quests return repeatable quests as completed for the day? |
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| 17:50.47 | alestane | I sort of expect not, but the best test would be to try it. |
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| 18:04.14 | Adys | "I smell a rat since Safari is Apple and Apple is going all guns to sue Google, and would like to destroy it." |
| 18:04.17 | Adys | finally someone smart |
| 18:04.20 | Adys | "They also worked to destroy Flash - two technologies I like. " |
| 18:04.22 | Adys | Oh fuck you |
| 18:04.50 | Lopeppeppy | ... compiling ... |
| 18:04.59 | Fisker | girls can't compile |
| 18:06.24 | Dagmar | Heh. |
| 18:06.45 | Dagmar | someone at Apple is probably aware that that's just fodder for having more stupid people banging on Google's door asking idiotic quesitons. |
| 18:07.11 | Dagmar | "Don't be evil" or not, Google should probably start taking steps to punish other institutions for trolling like that. |
| 18:08.15 | Arrowmaster | http://kotaku.com/5885914/valves-100-joke-ends-in-half+life-delay-gags |
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| 18:43.26 | Arrowmaster | hey look the president is working towards one of the single best ways to cut US government spending and republicans are angryly apposed to it, who would have ever thought http://motherjones.com/politics/2012/02/nuclear-weapons-reduction-obama |
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| 18:44.02 | Dagmar | I think we have enough of them yes. |
| 18:44.08 | Arrowmaster | we have too many |
| 18:44.19 | Dagmar | We'll have to start using them as currency soon at this rate. |
| 18:45.28 | Arrowmaster | since they keep making new ones and retiring old ones even though they NEVER get used, and all the work to keep them ready make them on of the largest parts of the military budget which is the largest part of the government budget |
| 18:45.53 | Arrowmaster | it is the single largest way to cut US spending |
| 18:46.09 | Arrowmaster | without having any negative effects |
| 18:46.29 | Arrowmaster | other than to the guys that get paid to make the new ones |
| 18:48.53 | Dagmar | ...and then the old ones will go out to surplus and we can buy them on eBay. |
| 18:49.24 | kd3 | ooh, I've always wanted my very own tactical warhead |
| 18:49.24 | Fisker | i hate democracy after the 9/11 first responders health care bill |
| 18:49.48 | Arrowmaster | even though it would be cool to buy a disarmed nuke, it would never happen |
| 18:50.05 | Dagmar | It would be cheaper to just build your own. |
| 18:50.42 | Fisker | ooh |
| 18:51.03 | Fisker | st jude's medical center auction |
| 18:51.15 | Dagmar | X-ray machine cores? |
| 18:51.21 | Fisker | get nukes with a plaque and support the children |
| 18:51.27 | Dagmar | Ahhh |
| 18:53.34 | kd3 | oh wow. sco-v-ibm is about to resume |
| 18:53.51 | Dagmar | Maybe we need a law to stop that crap |
| 18:54.06 | Arrowmaster | kd3: yes, nuking utah from orbit was suggested |
| 18:54.11 | Dagmar | Maybe a few "accidents" |
| 18:54.23 | Dagmar | "Accidents" are probably cheaper and more effective anyway |
| 18:54.28 | kd3 | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20120216020813427 |
| 18:54.48 | Fisker | what about removing patents? |
| 18:55.04 | Dagmar | Hopefully the judge will decide to forbid them from ever bringing this up again. |
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| 18:56.43 | Fisker | trips Dagmar |
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| 19:00.43 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: somebody said IBM wants this so they can finally utterly destroy SCO since the trial was forced to stop because of the bankruptcy |
| 19:01.01 | kd3 | that's the impression pj's giving on groklaw |
| 19:01.09 | Dagmar | It does get things moving again it seems |
| 19:01.18 | Dagmar | I'd just like to see it _over_. |
| 19:01.32 | Dagmar | Preferably before the second coming of Christ |
| 19:01.48 | Dagmar | Maybe this is what the Mayans were really predicting. |
| 19:02.01 | Dagmar | ...that 2012 will be the end of the SCO lawsuits. |
| 19:02.20 | Dagmar | ...and the ushering in of a new age of computing. |
| 19:02.23 | Arrowmaster | lol |
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| 19:29.21 | Torhal|work | pickles Ackis. |
| 19:29.39 | Ackis | lulz |
| 19:29.59 | Ackis | remember that romantic night you and I shared at blizzcon Torhal|work? |
| 19:33.20 | Elkano | how could he forget? his butt still hurts |
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| 19:33.54 | Torhal|work | Erm, you're both clinically insane. |
| 19:34.55 | Lopeppeppy | You're just finding that out, Torhal|work? |
| 19:35.15 | Torhal|work | Nah; merely reminding. |
| 19:39.19 | Ackis | burps on you. |
| 19:42.17 | Sintacks | farts on you. |
| 19:42.43 | Humbedooh | ponders about being mentioned in San Antonio Express-News... o.O |
| 19:44.18 | Lopeppeppy | Not supposed to let the press take your picture, SuperMan |
| 19:44.20 | Dagmar | Just as long as there are not certain phrases involved |
| 19:44.47 | Dagmar | "4-year old girl found" is something you probably don't want to be sharing masthead space with |
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| 19:45.39 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:45.53 | Humbedooh | it was a mention of a lua project :p no gurls involved |
| 19:46.11 | Lopeppeppy | Tsk tsk. Get some! |
| 19:46.25 | Humbedooh | gets Ackis' crabs! |
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| 19:58.03 | TC-Work | I/O error occurred while writing; fd='27', error='Connection refused (111)' |
| 19:58.03 | TC-Work | Connection broken; time_reopen='10' |
| 19:58.03 | TC-Work | Suspending write operation because of an I/O error; fd='27', time_reopen='10' |
| 19:58.03 | TC-Work | anyone have an idea about whats going on here? |
| 19:58.20 | TC-Work | would that be a network thing? |
| 20:15.30 | Dagmar | "Connection refused (111)" sez "prolly so" |
| 20:15.44 | Dagmar | You don't generally get that unless you were just attempting a socket connection. |
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| 20:24.10 | Ackis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-lpxlteqYs&feature=colike |
| 20:24.16 | Ackis | Cairenn|afk, Lopeppeppy: ^ |
| 20:24.28 | Ackis | (first half is just a dog barking but after that it's funnyyyyyy) |
| 20:25.15 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 20:26.46 | Ackis | if you have speakers the dog sounds like a stuck pig when the cat chases him :D |
| 20:26.54 | Adys | thoughts required |
| 20:27.39 | Adys | I'm writing an app that tracks statistics on a handful of twitter accounts. should i keep a permanent connection to twitter somehow or should I poll for updates regularly? |
| 20:32.48 | nevcairiel | If twitter offers a push service through a permanent connection, go with that, if the permanent connection still involves polling, might as well close it |
| 20:33.42 | cbreak | twitter offers a push connection |
| 20:33.47 | cbreak | if you 're talking about the api? |
| 20:34.54 | cbreak | the REST api is polling based, the Streaming API is push based |
| 20:36.22 | Adys | cbreak: yeah |
| 20:36.31 | Adys | im just unsure which one would be more suited |
| 20:38.47 | Arrowmaster | ohh state is working to up the speed limit |
| 20:42.30 | Ackis | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9088865/Hitler-had-son-with-French-teen.html |
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| 20:54.11 | Arrowmaster | just bought the latest humble bundle to help clear out my paypal account, now ive only got $.42 on my paypal account |
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| 21:02.55 | cbreak | Adys: I've used the REST api only |
| 21:02.57 | cbreak | it worked |
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| 21:03.09 | cbreak | and if the user authenticates, the limitations are not that bad |
| 21:03.36 | cbreak | but I've only used it via the iOS API for iThings, not directly |
| 21:04.29 | Adys | http://paste2.org/p/1907589 |
| 21:04.33 | Adys | gclient is making fun of me |
| 21:06.07 | Adys | god chromium is massive |
| 21:07.52 | cbreak | Adys: it's a browser |
| 21:08.04 | cbreak | those are bigger than operating system kernels these days. |
| 21:08.07 | Cairenn | http://failblog.org/2012/02/16/epic-win-photos-win-completely-relevant-news-probably-true-yes/ |
| 21:09.03 | Adys | cbreak: 4 gigabytes and counting |
| 21:09.26 | cbreak | whoa |
| 21:10.48 | Adys | I really |
| 21:10.51 | Adys | really really really |
| 21:11.03 | Adys | *really* wish google would convert ALL THEIR FUCKING SVN REPOS to git. |
| 21:12.01 | Adys | cbreak: http://paste2.org/p/1907595 |
| 21:12.33 | cbreak | Adys: I don't get that. |
| 21:12.55 | Adys | cbreak: this is a dependencies file that is automatically parsed by a commit queue |
| 21:13.20 | Cairenn | also: http://failblog.org/2012/02/16/funny-facebook-fails-failbook-football-vs-musical-theater/ |
| 21:13.40 | Adys | cbreak: these 3 lines remove the issue of context from codereview patches that change either v8 or skia dependency revision |
| 21:14.07 | Adys | cbreak: so that if only one of each is changed, the other one can still get patched without a failing hunk |
| 21:14.19 | Adys | aka is the weirdest fucking hack ive ever seen |
| 21:14.33 | cbreak | I kind of don't see the point. |
| 21:15.18 | Adys | as i said, a hack :P |
| 21:17.26 | Dagmar | Adys: You're in for an ugly suprise if you ever look closely at eggdrop |
| 21:17.44 | Adys | i don't really want to |
| 21:18.03 | Dagmar | Separating bits of usefulness with three-line comments is not unique to that pastebin |
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| 21:18.41 | Adys | it freaks me out |
| 21:19.05 | Adys | is this one of these customs from the deep, dark underground hacker scene |
| 21:19.36 | Dagmar | No, it's just sidestepping that diff/patch get really worked up about the order of the pieces, while the users don't care. |
| 21:19.59 | Adys | do people realise theres a --context argument to both of those? |
| 21:20.07 | Dagmar | Those three lines are the context. |
| 21:20.09 | Dagmar | :) |
| 21:20.14 | Adys | I know |
| 21:20.21 | Adys | --context=0 gets rid of them |
| 21:20.34 | Adys | and of the need to have these three line comments |
| 21:20.39 | Dagmar | ...and then it can't merge them anymore. |
| 21:21.13 | Adys | it can merge them just fine if you're using git |
| 21:21.16 | Adys | git is smarter than that |
| 21:22.35 | Dagmar | It's not psychic. |
| 21:22.50 | Adys | git keeps track of lines |
| 21:23.04 | Dagmar | Yes so without context, lines are all it's got to go on. |
| 21:23.16 | Adys | erm |
| 21:23.30 | Adys | once committed, git can merge patches just fine unless they change the exact same lines |
| 21:23.31 | Dagmar | Let's say the target area moves down in the file a significant amount, and it can't use context to search around for the proper place because you turned it off. |
| 21:23.36 | Adys | it doesnt need context |
| 21:23.55 | Adys | when uncommitted, those patches dont really need context |
| 21:23.58 | Dagmar | If it uses context, and those three lines, it can figure things out just fine. |
| 21:25.24 | Adys | once you apply a patch to a tree, git does not keep context |
| 21:25.28 | Adys | it keeps track of changes |
| 21:25.51 | Dagmar | ...and when you have conflicting changes, what then? |
| 21:26.04 | cbreak | human resolution |
| 21:26.12 | Adys | git handles them just fine unless the same line is modified |
| 21:26.13 | Dagmar | Yeah fuck that |
| 21:26.20 | Adys | which wouldnt be handled by a three line comment obviously |
| 21:26.22 | cbreak | if you have a conflict, no diff tool can help you |
| 21:26.26 | nevcairiel | 3 way merge ftw |
| 21:26.32 | Adys | s/merge// |
| 21:26.33 | Dagmar | If we wanted human resolution we'd be making people edit the single source tree |
| 21:26.41 | cbreak | FOO=3 from one side, FOO=5 from the other. Which wins? User decides. |
| 21:26.58 | Dagmar | yeah but in this case it looks like the content of that is just basically a hash right? |
| 21:27.02 | cbreak | it's called conflict because an automated resolution is impossible :) |
| 21:27.02 | nevcairiel | git can automatically resolve alot of conflicts, except like Adys said the same line gets changed |
| 21:27.07 | Dagmar | name & value and the order of these pairs doesn't matter much |
| 21:27.21 | Adys | Dagmar: if you modify the *same* line, you're in trouble no matter how much context and comments you have around the modification |
| 21:27.28 | Adys | Dagmar: if you don't, git doesnt *need* any context. |
| 21:27.36 | Adys | it'll merge and handle it just fine |
| 21:27.43 | Dagmar | So feel free to tell them that |
| 21:28.03 | Adys | i would, but i can't take someone seriously when they have context hacks in their source tree. |
| 21:28.10 | Dagmar | ...and they'll probably start with an explanation involving Alice and Bob. |
| 21:28.11 | Adys | im calling it that |
| 21:28.12 | cbreak | Adys: afaik there's a difference between normal git merging and git patch-applying |
| 21:28.13 | Adys | context hack. |
| 21:28.48 | Dagmar | It's a _functional_ context hack. |
| 21:28.51 | Adys | cbreak: git patch-apply will of course use the context |
| 21:29.34 | Adys | but this isnt used to apply |
| 21:29.54 | Adys | what i mean by that is its unneeded for apply |
| 21:35.08 | Arrowmaster | Adys: btw incase you didnt already figure it out, im done |
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| 21:35.40 | Adys | Arrowmaster: yup, nice |
| 21:35.43 | Adys | Arrowmaster: like the quality? |
| 21:35.47 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 21:36.12 | Arrowmaster | although i thought it would have better than 2channel sound |
| 21:40.28 | TC-Work | anyone know if photochromic lenses do or do not work in a car? |
| 21:41.04 | Arrowmaster | the kind that get darker in UV |
| 21:41.42 | Arrowmaster | they generally do not because the car glass blocks UV |
| 21:41.59 | AcidWeb | im off |
| 21:43.00 | TC-Work | damn, thats anoying |
| 21:43.07 | Arrowmaster | it is |
| 21:43.36 | TC-Work | well, the good side is i dont have to spend $350 on some sunglasses |
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| 21:49.05 | Arrowmaster | tekkub: i tried to help somebody with github and got told i was wrong by the person |
| 21:49.30 | tekkub | the lesson here is "never try" |
| 21:49.53 | Arrowmaster | http://stackoverflow.com/a/9296833/227513 |
| 21:50.45 | tekkub | ha |
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| 21:51.16 | tekkub | wtf is "My Changes" |
| 21:51.20 | tekkub | we don't have that |
| 21:51.43 | Arrowmaster | i dont know, i just posted from memory |
| 21:52.02 | tekkub | I think he was asking about his shitty system, not github |
| 21:52.11 | haste | he was |
| 21:52.11 | tekkub | i.e. "it works on github but not on our shit" |
| 21:52.42 | TC-Work | did he answer himself? |
| 21:52.45 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 21:52.55 | TC-Work | is that even allowed? |
| 21:53.04 | Arrowmaster | people like to do that on SE when they think they solved it themselves |
| 21:53.04 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 21:55.19 | Fisker | stares at Arrowmaster ? |
| 21:56.17 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 21:57.38 | Fisker | oh ok haste |
| 22:00.57 | Sintacks | https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--IpD_0aq4vg/TmN3kooppkI/AAAAAAAADE8/N7PyIVo92Ww/w401/Internetism2_Micael_Reynaud.gif |
| 22:00.58 | Sintacks | oh god my mind |
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| 22:09.04 | Kraps | http://blog.tarng.com/post/17775576898/the-new-windows-logo-is-out-of-perspective |
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| 22:18.14 | Fisker | just gonna kill you krap |
| 22:18.16 | Fisker | damnit |
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| 22:19.11 | haste | no Fisker |
| 22:19.16 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 22:19.18 | Fisker | why u no? |
| 22:19.29 | haste | it isn't ok |
| 22:23.37 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 22:28.18 | Sintacks | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/217673-rouges/ |
| 22:28.25 | Sintacks | I was like "I bet that's a mage" |
| 22:28.30 | Sintacks | and then it was a hunter |
| 22:28.31 | Sintacks | :( |
| 22:29.09 | Dagmar | It's not fun killing people just because they can't manage a stunlock |
| 22:29.28 | TC-Work | it's not that hard to tab-complete Fisker, how do you keep fucking up? |
| 22:30.56 | Dagmar | Brott: No it can't. |
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| 23:19.49 | sylvanaar | Torhal: if you have time can you try the new build i put on my bitbucket page. |
| 23:23.23 | Torhal | sylvanaar: Anything to test in particular? |
| 23:24.51 | sylvanaar | Torhal: well, try out completions on tables. see if you can get them to show up. local t = { a=1, b=2, c=3 } t.<invoke> |
| 23:25.14 | sylvanaar | er t.<invoke completion> |
| 23:25.17 | Torhal | Sweet |
| 23:26.11 | sylvanaar | see if the lua standard library completions show up when you do strin<completion> and string.<completion> |
| 23:26.43 | sylvanaar | see if you do, local a=1; local a=2 does it mark the first a as an unsed variable |
| 23:28.43 | sylvanaar | see if you can complete through a function, ie. local a= function() return { a=1 } end a().<complete> |
| 23:29.49 | sylvanaar | see if you can complete local f = io.open(); f:<complete> |
| 23:30.19 | sylvanaar | and any place it looks like completions should work but dont I guess |
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| 23:35.45 | sylvanaar | oh yeah, and does IntellijIdeaRulezzz ever appear in the completions |
| 23:36.45 | Torhal | sylvanaar: When I do "local t = { a=1, b=2, c=3 }" and then try to complete, I get this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9007879/Screenshots/s.png |
| 23:37.24 | Torhal | Same with string.<completion> |
| 23:38.10 | sylvanaar | http://screencast.com/t/3bI3LnQKx |
| 23:38.36 | Torhal | Yah, I don't get that. |
| 23:38.52 | Torhal | I downloaded the zip, went to preferences/Plugins and then did Install from disk |
| 23:38.55 | Torhal | It consumed the zip. |
| 23:38.58 | Torhal | Restarted |
| 23:39.25 | Torhal | The Lua plugin still says "From repository", however. |
| 23:39.33 | sylvanaar | hmm... |
| 23:40.27 | sylvanaar | yeah, from repositor is fine, that is what mine says |
| 23:40.31 | Torhal | Ah, ok. |
| 23:40.42 | Torhal | I'm running 11.0.2, if that matters. |
| 23:41.08 | sylvanaar | that should be ok |
| 23:41.31 | Torhal | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9007879/Screenshots/v.png |
| 23:41.33 | sylvanaar | are you invoking completion with cmd-space? |
| 23:41.37 | Torhal | Aye. |
| 23:41.56 | Torhal | Control-space, actually |
| 23:42.02 | Torhal | Command-space would give me Spotlight |
| 23:42.04 | Torhal | :D |
| 23:42.07 | sylvanaar | :D |
| 23:43.10 | sylvanaar | ok try putting a statement after the text you are completing like local t.... t.<complete> do end |
| 23:45.03 | Torhal | Doesn't make a difference. |
| 23:47.01 | sylvanaar | is there any text folowing the completion point? |
| 23:47.38 | Arrowmaster | this JotForm thing is stupid, people are blaming the US when they should be blaming GoDaddy |
| 23:47.41 | Torhal | Where I'm testing now, there's a for loop immediately afterward. |
| 23:48.07 | Torhal | I just went to a random function and started testing from the top. |
| 23:49.11 | sylvanaar | how frustrating |
| 23:49.36 | Torhal | Though I'm not sure I'm really running that version, since the plugin section doesn't indicate one way or the other |
| 23:49.46 | Torhal | I know it consumed the zip, but... |
| 23:49.48 | Torhal | Heh |
| 23:50.30 | Torhal | Might the namespace for ARL be clobbering things? |
| 23:51.22 | Torhal | Well, I also have the WoW Lua API stuff as part of the project as well. |
| 23:51.38 | sylvanaar | that shouldnt matter |
| 23:51.56 | Torhal | This is at the top of a file, before any other declarations: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9007879/Screenshots/w.png |
| 23:52.31 | Ycarene | Anyone know if the curse client v4 can made to work under wine? |
| 23:52.38 | Torhal | Ycarene: It cannot. |
| 23:52.41 | Torhal | WPF. |
| 23:52.48 | Ycarene | Well, poopy. |
| 23:53.23 | sylvanaar | http://pastebin.com/RUvqLufB |
| 23:54.22 | Torhal | sylvanaar: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9007879/Screenshots/y.png |
| 23:55.08 | sylvanaar | :(((( |
| 23:55.22 | Torhal | :/ |
| 23:55.29 | amro | fix those comments already, Torhal! |
| 23:55.43 | Torhal | amro: :P |
| 23:56.17 | sylvanaar | http://screencast.com/t/Zf8vZBADszC |
| 23:56.18 | amro | hm I haven't tested that plugin in a while, I've just been using kate |
| 23:56.26 | amro | I'll give it another shot now that I'm on a computer that can handle all the java |
| 23:56.56 | Torhal | sylvanaar: Ugh. Why is it that I always seem to so completely break your newest stuff? |
| 23:57.02 | sylvanaar | torhal go into the Lua plugin options and turn on type inference |
| 23:57.14 | sylvanaar | ... |
| 23:57.49 | sylvanaar | cant believe i forgot that |
| 23:58.04 | sylvanaar | you may have to restart the IDE |
| 23:59.54 | Torhal | sylvanaar: Didn't have to restart, and it works. |
| 23:59.59 | sylvanaar | nice |
