| 00:01.25 | Sintacks | my GPU is at 82C... |
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| 00:04.14 | Dark_Elf | Sintacks - do u clean the inside of your computer? |
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| 00:04.58 | Sintacks | i just did |
| 00:05.14 | Phobix | 82C at full load is fine |
| 00:05.17 | Sintacks | it's so hot cuz it can't get enough air with a second GPU that close to it, cuz i don't have a long enough crossfire cable |
| 00:05.19 | Phobix | for a GPU |
| 00:05.30 | Phobix | ATI cards run hot anyway |
| 00:06.09 | Dark_Elf | mices at 40c |
| 00:06.16 | Dark_Elf | mine i mean |
| 00:06.19 | Phobix | at full load? maybe water cooled |
| 00:06.57 | Phobix | in BF3 at full settings my 580 hovers around 80-83C |
| 00:07.53 | Xuerian | BF3 is surprise buttsex for most components... |
| 00:08.08 | Xuerian | It's what made me finally install my aftermarket cpu sink o_0 |
| 00:11.07 | Sintacks | i can get it down to 68C if i set the fan speed at 100% |
| 00:11.34 | foxlit | "Demand to see Life's manager!" |
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| 00:19.10 | Gnarfoz | <Sintacks> i went ape shit when someone tried to embed that into another addon <-- because it's not for embedding, really. besides that fact, it's obviously the superior addon. :P |
| 00:20.02 | Sintacks | I either get more fps on my druid on Ultra, or I get more fps with two 5770s |
| 00:20.03 | Sintacks | coughs. |
| 00:21.29 | Sintacks | oh.. shit |
| 00:21.32 | Sintacks | there's another var in that... |
| 00:21.38 | Sintacks | i also went from 3.4 to 3.8GHz proc |
| 00:21.41 | Sintacks | blah |
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| 00:39.30 | Sintacks | so |
| 00:39.31 | Sintacks | laik |
| 00:39.44 | Sintacks | don't grab a graphics card that was just running 92C with bare hands... |
| 00:43.37 | Dark_Elf | omg |
| 00:44.26 | TC-Work | Sintacks: Unless someone is standing by with a camera. |
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| 00:57.09 | Dagmar | Wow... That's a bit warm |
| 00:57.41 | Dagmar | I guess there's no question why you were grabbing it tho... It's cooked. |
| 01:00.28 | Sintacks | i was taking it back out of the computer and putting it back in the one it was supposed to be in |
| 01:00.46 | Sintacks | and it was that hot cuz i turned on folding@home GPU client just for shits and giggles |
| 01:00.51 | Sintacks | and 99% usage for 5 minute hits 92C |
| 01:09.48 | Dagmar | That thing needs more fans. That temp is way out of the safe zone |
| 01:14.20 | Sintacks | lol Dagmar |
| 01:14.29 | Sintacks | it's cuz it had no room to breath. i had a second card right under it |
| 01:21.35 | Sintacks | k. this doesn't make sense. i get shitty fps in normal madness but perfectly fine fps in LFR madness |
| 01:22.27 | Gnarfoz | if anything, should be the other way around ^^ |
| 01:22.50 | Gnarfoz | (if by normal you mean 10man) |
| 01:22.59 | Sintacks | no |
| 01:23.05 | Sintacks | normal 25 man |
| 01:23.09 | Sintacks | vs LFR 25 man |
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| 01:25.12 | Gnarfoz | that doesn't make any sense indeed |
| 01:31.23 | Dark_Elf | i bet it really goes up in a capital city |
| 01:31.49 | Gnarfoz | and 3fps looking at a wall |
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| 01:35.35 | Sintacks | i have 25fps sitting in SW on Uldaman |
| 01:35.56 | Dark_Elf | is that good or bad? |
| 01:36.01 | Sintacks | decent i guess |
| 01:36.21 | Sintacks | anyone tried the 64 bit client yet |
| 01:43.53 | Gnarfoz | doubtful that's going to change anything for anyone |
| 01:44.33 | Gnarfoz | (as usual with software that doesn't do stuff that inherently benefits from bigger registers ^_~) |
| 01:45.47 | Sintacks | the only thing i can think of that it would fix/would have fixed was giant textures using too much ram causing crashes, but they seem to have fixed that |
| 01:48.46 | Dagmar | It's not going to stop the histronic teens from claiming it sped their computer up by 30% |
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| 01:52.11 | Mikk | installing new windows always miraculously speeds computers up by shitloads |
| 01:52.19 | Mikk | (when reformatting first but people forget that) |
| 01:52.40 | Mikk | suggests install win3.1 and watching it load before you can release enter key |
| 01:52.55 | Jamash | I love having to reboot every couple of days or my 3D performance goes down the toilet |
| 01:53.03 | Jamash | wait no |
| 01:53.12 | Mikk | you're not entirely wrong |
| 01:53.15 | Jamash | what's that other word |
| 01:53.17 | Mikk | i like to call it "flushing the toilet" |
| 01:53.22 | Jamash | oh yeah, hate |
| 01:53.31 | Jamash | I hate having to reboot every couple of days or my 3D performance goes down the toilet |
| 01:53.36 | Mikk | it needs to happen once in a while before the shit backs up entirely |
| 01:54.04 | Jamash | I can have 1GB RAM free and the system will be swapping like crazy |
| 01:54.13 | Jamash | derrrrrrrrrrrrrrr? |
| 01:54.28 | Jamash | and yet rebooting magically fixes it |
| 01:54.35 | Mikk | well there's some very stupid software around |
| 01:54.39 | Mikk | that pages itself out on timer |
| 01:54.41 | Mikk | but pages too much out |
| 01:54.48 | Mikk | so needs to page itself back in again to execute next timer |
| 01:54.51 | Mikk | HI CURSE CLIENT |
| 01:54.55 | Mikk | HI SKYPE |
| 01:55.06 | Mikk | you can tell because they're hitting 1000+ pagefaults per second |
| 01:55.09 | Jamash | that doesn't explain why performance doesn't increase when I'm running a game for 30 minutes and it's still chugging |
| 01:55.33 | Mikk | no not entirely but i can see how it could wreak havoc with the paging tables if the OS is stupid |
| 01:55.36 | Mikk | HI MICROSOFT |
| 01:55.40 | Jamash | clearly |
| 01:56.04 | Mikk | ati card? |
| 01:56.26 | Jamash | and my linux box can stay up (at 100% cpu usage), well, until either the power goes out or I update the kernel |
| 01:56.34 | Jamash | nvidia laptop |
| 01:56.41 | Mikk | hmkay |
| 01:57.09 | Mikk | i will also point out that headless operation vs desktop with accelerated graphics are two very different beasts |
| 01:57.23 | Jamash | funny thing is if microsoft would release the kernel source other folks could fix it and more people would use windows |
| 01:57.44 | Jamash | oh I know |
| 01:58.06 | Jamash | nvidia and amd are just as culpable with their shitty drivers as microsoft are with their shitty memory management |
| 01:58.16 | Mikk | quite |
| 01:58.22 | kd3 | bad drivers? surely no |
| 01:58.24 | kd3 | sighs |
| 01:58.27 | Jamash | which should *also* be open source |
| 01:58.31 | Jamash | for exactly the same reason |
| 01:58.32 | Mikk | hrmph |
| 01:58.41 | Mikk | open sores don't have the best track record with drivers |
| 01:58.43 | Mikk | at all |
| 01:58.44 | Jamash | it's not like they sell drivers, I don't get why they insist on keeping them closed |
| 01:59.15 | Mikk | i've read enough network card drivers that i sometimes wonder how i kept my eyes in my sockets |
| 01:59.20 | Mikk | wanted to just rip them out enough times |
| 01:59.45 | Jamash | Mikk: if nvidia and ati spent 1/4 of the $$$ on their open drivers as they do on their closed drivers the open ones would be incredible |
| 01:59.55 | Mikk | NO NO YOU STUPID FUCK THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE CHIP THAT REQUIRES A RESTART, YOU'RE JUST RIPPING ALL THE BUFFERS OFF OF THE RX RING, SO NO WONDER YOU DON'T RECEIVE MORE PACKETS |
| 02:00.03 | Jamash | woah nelly |
| 02:00.13 | Mikk | you should hear my live when i read shit like that :P |
| 02:00.39 | Jamash | yes well, as I said, it's a $$$ thing |
| 02:00.49 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:00.51 | Mikk | ^ sign of stupid |
| 02:01.20 | Jamash | if more hardware companies realized that they're in the hardware business and not the driver business we'd be much better off |
| 02:01.21 | Mikk | that's open source drivers i'm finding it in obviously |
| 02:01.24 | Mikk | or i wouldn't have the source |
| 02:01.29 | Mikk | this is true |
| 02:01.30 | Mikk | very true |
| 02:01.42 | Jamash | yeah and how many of those drivers were written with 0 cooperation from the device manufacturer? |
| 02:01.50 | Mikk | also true |
| 02:02.03 | Mikk | it's hard to get decent help from them |
| 02:02.09 | Mikk | even when NDAs are signed |
| 02:02.22 | Mikk | which would preclude you from even writing open source |
| 02:02.26 | Jamash | I remember before forcedeth got into the mainline kernel loading up linux on my new box and going "wut" when it didn't have ethernet |
| 02:02.30 | Mikk | been there done that with the NDA thing |
| 02:03.34 | Mikk | buys intel NICs for his PCs these days |
| 02:03.45 | Mikk | so many bad experiences with all the others |
| 02:03.58 | Mikk | except for 3com 3c905b which is sadly out of prodcution *snief* |
| 02:03.58 | Jamash | well I dislike intel nvidia and amd in about equal quantity these days so it's a wash |
| 02:04.08 | Mikk | an intel nics are rock solid |
| 02:04.12 | Mikk | an=na |
| 02:04.29 | Jamash | na intel nics are rock solid? |
| 02:04.45 | Mikk | yes? |
| 02:04.48 | Jamash | I'm not talking about device quality I'm talking about the companies' attitudes |
| 02:04.56 | Jamash | oh na = nah |
| 02:05.00 | Mikk | yes =) |
| 02:05.10 | Mikk | sorry falling asleep here ;) |
| 02:06.12 | Mikk | goes to bed instead. seems more productive than arguing on the internet, eventhough present company is pleasant =) |
| 02:06.18 | Jamash | sleeeeeeeeeeeeep! |
| 02:08.37 | p3lim | Don't really see your issues, my win7 computer is up 24/7, and I have never experienced issues with game performing lower over time |
| 02:08.45 | p3lim | intel cpu, nvidia gfx |
| 02:09.14 | Gnarfoz | same |
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| 02:09.38 | p3lim | only issues I have is that my gfx is too old for BF3 :p |
| 02:09.49 | Sintacks | i keep forgetting to turn off cpu profiling |
| 02:09.59 | Gnarfoz | (same for xp, too, before that, really) |
| 02:10.11 | p3lim | never har vista |
| 02:10.15 | p3lim | had* |
| 02:10.32 | Gnarfoz | you mean win7 beta |
| 02:10.33 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 02:10.36 | p3lim | :p |
| 02:10.49 | Gnarfoz | damnit, flipping through Friendzone Johnny quickmemes |
| 02:10.50 | Dark_Elf | no wonder it was running fps down |
| 02:11.31 | p3lim | still have a dx9 card :D |
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| 03:14.37 | Xuerian | o_0 |
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| 04:03.21 | pompy | http://www.facebook.com/ApSci/posts/10150590331475605 |
| 04:03.23 | pompy | booo! |
| 04:12.34 | TC-Work | pompy: they cant ever write their description properly. |
| 04:12.40 | TC-Work | s/ever/even/ |
| 04:12.44 | TC-Work | neither can i :( |
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| 04:17.48 | pompy | heh |
| 04:18.41 | Sintacks | humps bluspacecow |
| 04:18.50 | bluspacecow | lol |
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| 04:23.14 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8szwlCnKUbY |
| 04:23.31 | Kaylin | anyone here play D2 on USWest? |
| 04:24.23 | Sintacks | lol D2 |
| 04:25.00 | Kaylin | :( |
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| 04:25.11 | Kaylin | I made an ignore list, I wanted somebody to use it so I felt useful |
| 04:25.22 | TC-Work | i play D3 on US West, does that help? |
| 04:25.49 | Kaylin | no, because I don't like d3, and I don't want to install it |
| 04:26.05 | TC-Work | Blasphemy. |
| 04:28.31 | Adys_ | Fetched 255MB in 6s (3034kB/s) |
| 04:28.35 | Adys_ | apt-get, you never disappoint. |
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| 04:28.52 | Adys_ | I bet Iriel would find that funny |
| 04:29.30 | Iriel | Hm? |
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| 04:30.29 | Adys | Iriel: <Adys_> Fetched 255MB in 6s (3034kB/s) |
| 04:30.29 | Adys | <Adys_> apt-get, you never disappoint. |
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| 04:34.02 | Iriel | Adys: my apt-get rarely looks like that 8-( |
| 04:34.16 | Iriel | Fetched 537 kB in 1s (308 kB/s) |
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| 04:35.38 | Adys | Iriel: i was just making fun of the 3kB/s for 255MB in 6s |
| 04:35.43 | Adys | 3MB/s* |
| 04:36.06 | Iriel | That is a bit significantly off isn't it. |
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| 04:41.41 | kd3 | wth g+? a built-in image macro creator? |
| 04:47.28 | Adys | kd3: ? |
| 04:47.31 | Adys | image macro? |
| 04:47.34 | kd3 | https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/107814003053721091970/albums/5696435407366564513 |
| 04:47.58 | Adys | ah yes |
| 04:47.59 | kd3 | also, while enwiki's still up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_macro |
| 04:48.00 | Adys | picnic |
| 04:48.15 | Adys | they want to integrate picnic into g+ |
| 04:48.16 | Adys | well |
| 04:48.26 | Adys | into picasa, and in turn that into g+ |
| 04:48.31 | Adys | well |
| 04:48.43 | Adys | port it to html5, then integrate into picasa, and in turn that into g+ |
| 04:50.05 | Adys | kd3, Iriel: http://paste2.org/p/1872780 |
| 04:50.10 | Adys | note to self: pull more often |
| 04:50.32 | kd3 | icks |
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| 05:02.29 | karl_w_w | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Learn_more A cunning trap! |
| 05:02.51 | kd3 | oops |
| 05:06.40 | Adys | kd3: oh. the blackout is just an overlay |
| 05:07.10 | Trela | Turning off Javascript stops it. |
| 05:08.43 | Kaylin | so that's why I see stuff |
| 05:09.24 | Trela | Kaylin: Google just has a big black box over their logo that links to a petition form. |
| 05:09.30 | Adys | /usr/sbin/grub-probe: warn: disk does not exist, so falling back to partition device /dev/sda1. |
| 05:09.37 | Adys | thats the stuff you want to see when upgrading. |
| 05:10.02 | Adys | Trela: .. it does? |
| 05:10.08 | Adys | I only see the homepage link |
| 05:10.17 | Trela | Adys: In the USA only I believe. |
| 05:10.27 | Trela | We will be putting up a SOPA alert on Curse network sites in the morning. |
| 05:10.48 | Adys | Trela, kd3: are you taking wowpedia down btw? |
| 05:11.07 | kd3 | I'd assume the curse-wide thing will cover us |
| 05:11.50 | Trela | We are sticking it at the top of sites that have the standardized Curse Network bar like the one on Curse.com. |
| 05:12.16 | Trela | Our Wiki sites would require us to edit the template on EVERY site...(50+ wikis) *Grumbles* |
| 05:12.42 | Adys | do it on the 2-3 biggest ones |
| 05:12.54 | Trela | Pretty much that, the large sites. |
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| 05:13.36 | Trela | We considered a black out style page, but we are going more of the Google route with an obvious "WTF is wrong here?" eye grabber. |
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| 05:15.02 | Adys | Trela: wouldve liked a blackout at least on the wow sites |
| 05:15.37 | Adys | cat: /sys/bus/usb/devices/*:*/bInterfaceProtocol: No such file or directory |
| 05:15.40 | Adys | *so* what you want to see |
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| 05:15.58 | Adys | alright, someone remind me, whats the ssh config option to keep a connection alive instead of timing out systematically after a few minutes? |
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| 05:16.31 | Trela | Adys: We are still under staffed in this department so we really did not have the time to develop and test a full black out setup. Good news is we made a new hire last week and have another candidate we are looking at. |
| 05:16.35 | Adys | ServerAliveInterval thanks google |
| 05:17.07 | Adys | Trela: is curse really having that much problems finding.. asp/php devs? |
| 05:18.29 | Trela | Adys: .NET for our Windows side, we get tons of applicants to cherry pick from. PHP for our Linux side we get them, but they are either too young(Can't legally hire them, sheesh) or have no idea what we even do. |
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| 05:19.12 | Adys | can't legally hire eh |
| 05:19.22 | kd3 | yay unpaid internships |
| 05:19.24 | Trela | Really. We get people under 16 applying. WTF |
| 05:19.27 | Adys | that's a shame, I'm sure 16 year old php devs are the first thing you want on your team |
| 05:19.56 | Trela | We require at least a college degree. *Points to job posting.* |
| 05:20.42 | Adys | does that mean I can't work for you? :( |
| 05:21.35 | Trela | There are college degree equivalents. If you have the experience to to back up your resume, then that is what really matters. |
| 05:21.35 | karl_w_w | https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/ unreadable image win |
| 05:21.56 | Adys | karl_w_w: its a pdf |
| 05:21.58 | Adys | https://docs.google.com/gview?url=https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/takeaction.pdf |
| 05:22.26 | kd3 | yah, I don't have permission to view that document |
| 05:22.33 | kd3 | "Sorry, we are unable to retrieve the document for viewing or you don't have permission to view the document. " |
| 05:22.54 | Adys | australia is censoring google's anti-censorship protest. |
| 05:23.18 | Trela | Adys: Broken for us too. |
| 05:23.43 | Adys | try the actual url then i guess |
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| 05:25.27 | kd3 | rofl. 4chan's participating too according to chatter from other channels |
| 05:25.54 | Adys | yeah they announced that a while back didnt they? |
| 05:26.28 | pompy | www.google.com look at the logo! |
| 05:26.57 | Trela | Nothing on 4chan yet. |
| 05:27.07 | kd3 | comments posted are "blacked out" |
| 05:27.26 | Adys | arstech is blacked up |
| 05:27.33 | Adys | http://arstechnica.com/staff/palatine/2012/01/sopa-resistance-day-begins-at-ars.ars |
| 05:28.06 | Trela | OH! |
| 05:28.10 | Trela | sees the comments. |
| 05:29.20 | Trela | Though, it is producing marginally more intelligence conversation requiring the users to post with images to talk. http://boards.4chan.org/a/res/60040451 |
| 05:30.18 | Adys | "Do you suck dicks?" |
| 05:30.32 | Adys | I don't see the difference |
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| 05:33.44 | Arrowmaster | thats great |
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| 05:38.40 | Adys | kd3: QC joined: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2103 |
| 05:39.11 | Arrowmaster | was just about to mention that but i was reading LICD first |
| 05:39.35 | Trela | Dark Legacy has. http://www.darklegacycomics.com/319.html |
| 05:42.42 | Adys | official statement: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/01/dont-censor-web.html |
| 05:44.18 | Adys | still no word from twitter btw? |
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| 05:53.42 | TC-Work | wikipedia's redirect kinda meh |
| 05:53.51 | TC-Work | esc lets you still use the site |
| 05:54.53 | Xuerian | Really? It loads THEN redirects? Eh. Guess it's not that easy to set mediawiki to preserve links. |
| 05:55.02 | Xuerian | *while still showing a different page.. |
| 05:55.08 | Adys | it loads and then overlays |
| 05:55.17 | Xuerian | Oh. Hm. |
| 05:55.23 | Adys | javascript thing |
| 05:56.07 | NickG365 | Congressmen won't even notice that Wikipedia is blacked out; their Windows 95 with IE machines aren't compatible with that JavaScript. |
| 05:56.49 | Adys | i think if their machines are that bad they wont be aware of wikipedia's existance in the first place |
| 05:57.23 | Iriel | Yay I rewired a (formerly) fluorescent light fixture and didn't kill myself or the new LED lamp. |
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| 05:59.29 | Xuerian | Iriel: Ha ha, pretty good. |
| 05:59.47 | kd3 | rofl@fark in re a post made earlier... http://www.fark.com/comments/6884400 |
| 06:00.34 | Xuerian | Hah, the images are good |
| 06:01.39 | bluspacecow | BBL library tiem |
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| 06:06.10 | kd3 | zomg; cnn actually made mention of enwiki going down |
| 06:08.06 | Iriel | Didn't they replace half their research staff with wikipedia? 8-) |
| 06:14.52 | adys`nosopa | gnite all |
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| 06:43.20 | karl_w_w | my god the overmoderation on mmo-champion is getting ridiculous |
| 06:46.51 | Dagmar | I have Ice Cream Sandwich. :) |
| 06:48.52 | kd3 | ahaha https://twitter.com/#!/herpderpedia |
| 06:50.24 | Arrowmaster | this is gold |
| 06:51.39 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 06:51.54 | Arrowmaster | i hope somebody is replying to all these people too to inform them why |
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| 06:53.43 | karl_w_w | if people can't click a link presented to them which answers their question, I'm not sure somebody telling them would help :P |
| 06:53.59 | karl_w_w | I'm also pretty sure they would be of no use if they knew what was going on anyway. |
| 06:54.03 | Dagmar | You are on IRC. |
| 06:54.17 | Dagmar | It's the fucking *home* of "You can lead a newb to clue, but you can't make him think." |
| 06:54.18 | karl_w_w | Ah thank you Dagmar :D |
| 06:54.38 | Corrodias | people publicly complaining about something on twitter get better than they deserve |
| 06:54.54 | Corrodias | or whining, rather |
| 06:55.50 | karl_w_w | I'd like to think all these posts are parodies but that simply wouldn't make sense :P |
| 06:55.58 | [Wobin] | woops |
| 06:56.00 | [Wobin] | Cairenn|afk: http://500px.com/photo/4422088 |
| 06:56.06 | Dagmar | THere are many people who would be better used as plant food. |
| 06:57.37 | karl_w_w | [Wobin]: amusing picture, slightly disturbing title :P |
| 06:57.49 | Dagmar | Don't worry, there's more disturbing pics there. |
| 06:59.23 | Dagmar | The title is an old meme. Nothing to be afraid of. |
| 07:05.21 | TC-Work | It is really annoying to go through all the trouble of replacing a loud machine to find out the new one is even louder. |
| 07:05.44 | Xuerian | TC-Work: Gentle Typhoons. |
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| 07:07.37 | TC-Work | there are 110 machines outside my door to choose from, and thats what i get. |
| 07:09.21 | Dagmar | Surely you don't mean that ARM thing from Nokia |
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| 07:12.04 | Fisker | so reddit isn't going dark anyway? |
| 07:12.07 | Fisker | what a bunch of pussies |
| 07:12.30 | TC-Work | Shirik: hmm.... http://500px.com/ might be worthwhile, looks nice and it has a LR plugin. |
| 07:12.35 | Xuerian | Fisker: PST? |
| 07:12.47 | Fisker | i hope so Xuerian |
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| 07:17.21 | Fisker | all it takes is one esc to bypass wikipedia going down |
| 07:17.22 | Fisker | dun dun dun |
| 07:17.31 | Fisker | maybe the same applies to sopa? |
| 07:17.48 | Dagmar | I was going to say "That's by design, fool." but you just made up for it. |
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| 07:18.08 | Dagmar | The _ugly_ thing is that we can completely neuter SOPA through software. |
| 07:18.19 | Xuerian | Users can. |
| 07:18.51 | Dagmar | For one thing, we have TOR. |
| 07:19.10 | Dagmar | TOR would pretty much be illegal by the definitions included in SOPA. |
| 07:19.55 | Dagmar | There's a provision that declares any tech that offers to bypass SOPA controls to also be illegal. |
| 07:20.04 | Dagmar | ...and that's what TOR is for: 'Bypassing shit.' |
| 07:23.11 | starlon | plays dat fiddle. |
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| 07:25.44 | karl_w_w | It's pointless trying to discuss the merits or lack thereof of SOPA |
| 07:26.21 | karl_w_w | anybody with a basic understanding of anything knows that it simply won't work |
| 07:28.39 | Dagmar | ...and yet after _months_ of arguing about it, they are still trying to pass it. |
| 07:29.02 | Dagmar | We are well past the point where one simply has to admit that the politicians are fucking _bought_ |
| 07:29.48 | Dagmar | The only reason they're doing it is so that it can be abused by the people who are pushing them for it. |
| 07:33.02 | karl_w_w | UK radio news covering wikipedia's shutdown, coverage much? |
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| 10:38.56 | Mikk | funny - i can wikipedia? |
| 10:39.26 | Mikk | wow it's slow |
| 10:41.38 | haste | and very black |
| 10:44.37 | bluspacecow | put ?banner=none at the end of the URL |
| 10:45.10 | Mikk | aha it was juts slow loading the javascript |
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| 10:46.03 | dusf_ | is it possible to store an achievement in a macro used for seeking a new arena partner or people to raid with? |
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| 10:50.57 | karl_w_w | dusf_: /run SendChatMessage("LF 2s partner "..GetAchievementLink(id), CHANNEL, nil, 2) |
| 10:51.50 | dusf_ | karl_w_w: do i get the achievement link from wowhead or something? |
| 10:51.57 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 10:52.03 | dusf_ | sec |
| 10:52.10 | karl_w_w | like insane in the membrane is http://www.wowhead.com/achievement=2336 |
| 10:52.22 | karl_w_w | so it would be GetAchievementLink(2336) |
| 10:54.01 | dusf_ | karl_w_w .... /run SendChatMessage("LF 2s partner "..GetAchievementLink(876), TRADE, nil, 2) |
| 10:54.43 | dusf_ | karl_w_w: hmm that just makes him /say it |
| 10:55.05 | karl_w_w | CHANNEL |
| 10:55.07 | karl_w_w | not TRADE |
| 10:55.28 | karl_w_w | 2 is the channel you want to send it to |
| 10:55.30 | dusf_ | karl_w_w: 2 referring to the channel trade, yes? |
| 10:55.31 | dusf_ | sweet |
| 10:55.47 | dusf_ | karl_w_w: one more thing, some how my trade is on channel 4, is there anyway to move it back to 2? |
| 10:56.00 | dusf_ | i know the command you gave me would work if i use 4 instead, it just annoys me it's not on 2 |
| 10:58.01 | karl_w_w | you have to leave your channels and join them all in the order you want them |
| 11:04.02 | dusf_ | karl_w_w: ty. the macro /run SendChatMessage("testing achivement link macro "..GetAchievementLink(876), CHANNEL, nil, 2) |
| 11:04.08 | dusf_ | works fine, but when i try to reverse the order like this: |
| 11:04.28 | dusf_ | -> /run SendChatMessage(..GetAchievementLink(876)"testing achivement link macro ", CHANNEL, nil, 2) |
| 11:04.43 | dusf_ | or even -> /run SendChatMessage(..GetAchievementLink(876),"testing achivement link macro " CHANNEL, nil, 2) |
| 11:04.54 | dusf_ | both do not run. is there anyway to have the achievment linked at the start? |
| 11:10.19 | dusf_ | karl_w_w |
| 11:12.55 | dusf_ | got it - thanks. |
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| 11:30.16 | starlon | :\ |
| 11:36.16 | bluspacecow | BBL |
| 11:43.58 | dusf_ | was lua the first language many of you learned? i was thinking of starting with python |
| 11:44.17 | Maldivia | C64 Basic |
| 11:44.57 | dusf_ | was going to try http://www.amazon.co.uk/Python-Programming-Absolute-Beginner-Dawson/dp/1435455002/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1326887083&sr=1-1 |
| 11:45.20 | dusf_ | Maldivia: i had one of those when i was little :) |
| 11:45.38 | karl_w_w | i dont remember what language i learnt first, i think i was about 9 at the time |
| 11:48.06 | AcidWeb | Visual Basic in third grade of elementary school |
| 11:49.13 | dusf_ | karl_w_w: i wish i had started when i was 9, we had a 68k mac |
| 11:51.22 | Fisker | turbo pascal |
| 11:51.39 | haste | TCL! |
| 11:53.07 | Fisker | googles "ancient as fuck programming language" |
| 11:53.13 | foxlit | languages are not important. |
| 11:53.24 | foxlit | http://www.amazon.co.uk/Art-Computer-Programming-Volumes-1-4a/dp/0321751043/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1326887600&sr=1-1 |
| 11:53.25 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:53.27 | foxlit | go, and never return. |
| 11:54.02 | Fisker | i'd like this on kindle |
| 11:54.09 | Fisker | if the kindle supports enough storage for it |
| 11:54.09 | Fisker | BAM |
| 11:54.15 | foxlit | (it's only like 4x800 pages) |
| 11:55.06 | foxlit | </totally impractical advice> |
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| 12:04.54 | dusf_ | karl_w_w: the following was working perfectly on one character: |
| 12:05.07 | dusf_ | ... /run SendChatMessage(GetAchievementLink(876).." & "..GetAchievementLink(1162).." MUT ROGUE LF D PRIEST/F MAGE/F DUDU FOR 2s WITH GOOD ENG/HEADSET", CHANNEL, nil, 2) |
| 12:05.19 | dusf_ | but ever since i swithced chracter it's stopping right after ROG |
| 12:08.00 | foxlit | clearly you were no longer a mut rogue and thus the macro couldn't tell a lie |
| 12:09.00 | dusf_ | foxlit to the contrary i am now logged onto my mut rogue |
| 12:09.05 | dusf_ | not that it would matter much |
| 12:09.33 | foxlit | Is your rogue's name supercalifragilisticexpialidocious? :) |
| 12:09.38 | dusf_ | nope |
| 12:09.41 | dusf_ | shyster |
| 12:09.46 | foxlit | aw, missed opportunity right there. |
| 12:09.50 | dusf_ | alt was auctioneero - it was working fine for him |
| 12:09.58 | foxlit | Anyhow, there's a length limit on outgoing chat messages. |
| 12:10.02 | foxlit | And links are expensive. |
| 12:12.45 | zenzio | Cide: don't know if you saw my comment the other day, but I figured out the cause of the fit problem I had with the G930; now I'm very happy with them. Thanks again for the tip |
| 12:15.18 | dusf_ | foxlit: could it be that my lower level alt does not have the achievements, whereas my main has them perhaps adding some extra cost to it because of the 'achievement earned by x on....' |
| 12:15.23 | dusf_ | rather than 'achievement in progress' etc |
| 12:15.28 | foxlit | yes. |
| 12:15.33 | dusf_ | dang |
| 12:16.14 | haste | oh man foxlit, now you made me want to play jubeat :( |
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| 12:48.10 | karl_w_w | wikipedia is nice and responsive today :P |
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| 13:02.02 | karl_w_w | in other news, EPGP sounds more like heebie jeebies than it does a loot system |
| 13:14.54 | haste | it works very well as a loot system tho' |
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| 13:21.07 | alestane | Morning, Peppy. |
| 13:21.18 | alestane | You seen these people before? http://www.timeless-trends.com/ |
| 13:24.58 | Lopeppeppy | Vaguely, alestane, although I've never ordered from them. I've only ever purchased in person - the measurements are so precise. |
| 13:25.00 | wereHamster | corsets? yes I've seenthose before |
| 13:25.16 | alestane | That's certainly true. |
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| 13:50.21 | bluspacecow | SB5101 direct connect to modem. <----------- anyone got any links that for turning on ICMP forwarding on this so traceroutes work ? |
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| 14:01.03 | Lopeppeppy | I think you need an exorcism, bluspacecow, you're speaking in tongues again. |
| 14:02.15 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:02.18 | bluspacecow | hello dear |
| 14:02.47 | dusf_ | trispec ftw |
| 14:07.34 | Cairenn|afk | [Wobin]: awwww |
| 14:08.23 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, bluspacecow. :) |
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| 14:13.28 | zenzio | snuggles Lopeppeppy and Cairenn... simultaneously |
| 14:13.36 | Cairenn | :) |
| 14:16.05 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
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| 14:16.26 | Fisker | bluspacecow pls |
| 14:16.30 | Fisker | icmp forwarding lol |
| 14:16.37 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 14:16.41 | bluspacecow | fiskey fiskering |
| 14:16.49 | Lopeppeppy | snorgles zenzio most enthusiastically! |
| 14:17.04 | bluspacecow | ~whalenuke ~whaleslap Fisker |
| 14:17.04 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around ~whaleslap Fisker with his mind powers. |
| 14:17.40 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn, you will never believe this. I tweaked a nerve mixing cookie dough, and gave myself a migraine. I fail as a baker! /tears |
| 14:18.04 | zenzio | in a way that is quite impressive |
| 14:18.04 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: unfortunately, I can believe it |
| 14:18.15 | Cairenn | hugs Lopeppeppy |
| 14:18.49 | Lopeppeppy | But the cookies were still yummy. *laugh* I need a kitchen that wasn't designed for someone 5'9" or taller! |
| 14:19.02 | alestane | Yay for cookies. |
| 14:19.07 | alestane | ...boo for migraines. |
| 14:19.09 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 14:19.18 | Cairenn | What type of cookies? |
| 14:19.47 | Lopeppeppy | Chocolate butterscotch chip |
| 14:19.53 | Cairenn | yum! |
| 14:20.39 | Lopeppeppy | I made a few chocolate chocolate chip to keep for myself, because I am not the butterscotch type. But now I start socking away for a KitchenAid, 'cause that was ridonkulous. |
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| 14:31.48 | alestane | Getting screens presented as web pages to display well across different mobile devices proves to be not simple. |
| 14:33.40 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. It SUCKS. |
| 14:36.57 | zenzio | alestane: I hope you're at least only working with smartphones |
| 14:37.31 | alestane | Right now I'm just trying to get something consistent cacross the iPhone, iPhone 3GS and iPad. |
| 14:42.41 | adys`nosopa | Trela: you manage nginx configs right? |
| 14:43.14 | Cairenn | http://xkcd.com/ <3 |
| 14:43.36 | adys`nosopa | Win |
| 14:43.50 | Lopeppeppy | Love it, Cairenn. |
| 14:44.10 | Fisker | who cares? |
| 14:44.22 | Fisker | People against SOPA = For Piracy = For Terrorism |
| 14:44.24 | Fisker | also |
| 14:44.27 | Fisker | = hates america |
| 14:44.49 | adys`nosopa | well one of those is usually right |
| 14:45.33 | adys`nosopa | nothing new there |
| 14:45.34 | Fisker`nosoap | actually been without soap for weeks now |
| 14:45.35 | Fisker`nosoap | ^^ |
| 14:46.49 | adys`nosopa | oh, craigslist actually blacked out |
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| 14:48.21 | Cairenn | fark went white |
| 14:49.00 | Fisker`nosoap | gonna spend way too much time on going dark my own way on my non-http-accessible server |
| 14:49.35 | Fisker`nosoap | this will also help when some company wants to steal my actually used domain and get it on account it not having a webpage |
| 14:49.37 | Fisker`nosoap | hurr durr |
| 14:49.57 | Fisker`nosoap | though Developers Developers Developers inc. seems unlikely |
| 14:50.01 | Fisker`nosoap | or does it? |
| 14:50.56 | bluspacecow | http://theoatmeal.com/ |
| 14:50.58 | bluspacecow | LOL |
| 14:51.07 | bluspacecow | can't stop laughing |
| 14:51.13 | bluspacecow | must . not . wake the flatmates |
| 14:51.21 | Ackis | http://theoatmeal.com/ |
| 14:51.24 | Ackis | damn you bluspacecow |
| 14:51.26 | Ackis | DAMN YOU |
| 14:51.32 | Ackis | quit stalking me in channels |
| 14:51.37 | bluspacecow | kitten BBQ = bad |
| 14:53.31 | adys`nosopa | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/16056807527 h-h is participating |
| 14:54.05 | Lopeppeppy | For the kittens |
| 14:54.06 | adys`nosopa | also, g-g. |
| 14:54.38 | bluspacecow | do it for the love |
| 14:54.46 | bluspacecow | of a goat and koala |
| 14:54.54 | adys`nosopa | kitten bbq = bad |
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| 15:05.51 | alestane | Can someone explain to me why a page set with html {width: 320px} and a viewport tag with width=320 is scaled on my iPhone 4 to leave half the frame hanging off the edge? |
| 15:06.31 | jnwhiteh | no, no one can explain that to you |
| 15:07.45 | foxlit | http://developer.apple.com/library/IOs/#documentation/AppleApplications/Reference/SafariWebContent/UsingtheViewport/UsingtheViewport.html may be of help. |
| 15:08.21 | alestane | I've read that something like four times today, foxlit, but thank you. |
| 15:08.53 | alestane | It doesn't address how this works on iPad nor the fact that a retina device still seems to have a device-width of 320. |
| 15:10.32 | foxlit | the latter makes sense, in a way |
| 15:10.42 | alestane | A certain amount. |
| 15:10.54 | alestane | You don't want the text to get tinier, you want it crisper. |
| 15:11.23 | alestane | But I set the viewport width to 320px, the document width to 320px, and it's scaled up double. |
| 15:11.30 | Lopeppeppy | Are you setting scale too, maybe? somewhere? |
| 15:12.03 | alestane | I've tried various settings for maximum or initial scale and am never sure what it's actually doing. |
| 15:12.51 | foxlit | can you link your page? |
| 15:13.15 | alestane | It's supposed to display in a web popup being loaded from a device, but I can paste some code. |
| 15:13.29 | alestane | Or stick it on a server temporarily. |
| 15:13.49 | alestane | That is, the HTML file ships with the app, normally. |
| 15:15.10 | alestane | That would actually be a good way for me to accelerate the testing. |
| 15:17.23 | adys`nosopa | haha |
| 15:17.27 | adys`nosopa | Fisker`nosoap: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2012/jan/18/guardipedia-we-answer-your-questions-during-wikipedia-blackout-live |
| 15:17.28 | Maldivia | *grumble* hate synchronization.. |
| 15:21.34 | Grum | bles back. |
| 15:22.31 | jnwhiteh | Maldivia: use a sane concurrency primitive =) |
| 15:23.12 | Ackis | fuck this blackout |
| 15:23.19 | Maldivia | jnwhiteh: the problem is, the locking happens in the JVM level, so it's a bitch to try to avoid deadlocks |
| 15:25.11 | alestane | foxlit, YOu can try the page at http://ontillmorning-entertainment.com/help.html |
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| 15:25.46 | jnwhiteh | Maldivia: ah yeah |
| 15:26.18 | Phelps | http://creativemarket.com/uiywFvl |
| 15:26.19 | Maldivia | jnwhiteh: the issue is that I need to lock on the different monitors, and depending on the origin, it will happen in opposite order... so deadlock prone |
| 15:30.29 | alestane | I think I understand the issue now. |
| 15:30.49 | alestane | I don't yet understand a solution. |
| 15:31.21 | alestane | I just want the initial scale to be set so that a viewport of 320 pixels is stretched across the screen. |
| 15:31.27 | mitch0 | maldivia: don't do that :) |
| 15:31.35 | alestane | And there doesn't appear to be a setting for that. |
| 15:33.55 | adys`nosopa | http://thedailywtf.com/ hehe |
| 15:34.22 | Fisker`nosoap | hey jnwhiteh |
| 15:34.24 | Fisker`nosoap | not so hey Ackis |
| 15:35.41 | Maldivia | mitch0: I know... and trying to find a workaround... but two will always lock in opposite order, it's just if someyhing can be done to avoid deadlock |
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| 15:37.39 | Lopeppeppy | That looked like scale=1 to me on that FAQ page, alestane |
| 15:37.47 | mitch0 | maldivia: you can't fix that |
| 15:38.02 | alestane | In a desktop browser, Peppy, or on your phone? |
| 15:38.28 | Lopeppeppy | When I was reading the FAQ, that's what it seemed to say to me. |
| 15:38.38 | Maldivia | mitch0: if I can detect it and temp release the lock? |
| 15:39.06 | mitch0 | what sort of lock? synchronized() { } ? |
| 15:39.10 | mitch0 | you can't temp-release that |
| 15:39.18 | Maldivia | wait |
| 15:39.22 | Maldivia | notify |
| 15:39.29 | Lopeppeppy | Figures 3-4, 3-5, and 3-6 |
| 15:39.38 | alestane | Well, if I force scale = 1, then it works great on the iPhone, but on the iPad, the 320 pixel viewport is 320 actual screen pixels wide on the iPad. |
| 15:39.44 | alestane | Which is less than half the screen. |
| 15:40.33 | Lopeppeppy | Because you're also forcing the 320, I presume. |
| 15:40.36 | Maldivia | mitch0: but still need to figure out if the other is locked or not |
| 15:41.13 | alestane | And if I let it assume the scale, it seems to assume 2.0 (which forces things off the screen on the iPhone. |
| 15:43.28 | Lopeppeppy | How do some apps add that nifty button that lets you go from 1x to 2x? That could be your fix? |
| 15:44.49 | adys`nosopa | anyone has experience with nginx+apache setups? |
| 15:45.41 | foxlit | alestane: I opened your link and saw the behavior you described |
| 15:45.55 | foxlit | I then rehosted your html file, navigated to my copy, and it was zoomed correctly |
| 15:46.06 | foxlit | I then went back to your link and hit refresh, and it was zoomed correctly |
| 15:46.25 | alestane | Now, I'm updating the file constantly. |
| 15:46.26 | foxlit | and now I'm unable to get it back to the half-width variant. |
| 15:46.30 | alestane | As I try to fix this. |
| 15:46.39 | alestane | So you probably saw a different version originally. |
| 15:47.08 | alestane | Right now, I have it working great on the iPhone, but scaled narrow on the iPad. |
| 15:47.38 | foxlit | alestane: here's a suggestion: drop the html {width: 320px} |
| 15:47.53 | foxlit | and replace the meta with <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width" /> |
| 15:48.18 | alestane | THen the text stays tiny, but reflows to fill the iPad screen. |
| 15:48.27 | alestane | I want it to scale up and keep the same flow. |
| 15:49.18 | alestane | Although I haven't yet pinned down how it works on the iPhone, so it's worth a couple experiments now that I've gotten a faster way to test. |
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| 15:52.17 | alestane | And using device-width with the iphone leaves it hanging off the edge unless I set the page width. |
| 15:52.44 | mitch0 | maldivia: use some other locking mechanism, like java.util.concurrent.locks.* |
| 15:52.52 | mitch0 | maldivia: then you can muck around with tryLock and stuff |
| 15:52.59 | mitch0 | wait/notify won't help you |
| 15:53.31 | Maldivia | problem is, its the JVM that locks it |
| 15:55.07 | Lopeppeppy | can you include settings per device? |
| 15:56.21 | alestane | Not easily, Peppy, but I can if I work at it. |
| 15:56.51 | alestane | I can include device-specific files and load whichever one is appropriate. |
| 15:57.04 | alestane | Just that then I have to maintain them separately. |
| 15:57.14 | alestane | http://www.gyford.com/phil/writing/2010/07/06/web-page-iphone.php Interesting tidbit there. |
| 15:59.13 | alestane | The other thing that I can maybe do is use different CSS per device. |
| 16:01.23 | mitch0 | maldiviaÃ: how does the jvm lock it? are you writing JVM code?(confused) |
| 16:03.43 | Maldivia | mitch0: fiddling with delegating class loading, and loadClassInternal is synchronized, and its the method the VM calls |
| 16:04.03 | mitch0 | ah |
| 16:04.15 | mitch0 | touch luck |
| 16:04.28 | mitch0 | s/ch/gh/ |
| 16:07.00 | Maldivia | hmm... osgi supports cyclic dependancies, so their class loaders must do something about this... |
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| 16:24.16 | Maldivia | ohh, java 7 is the answer it seems :P |
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| 16:27.00 | Maldivia | heh, and the osgi way of doing it, is a jvm XX option, to disable synchronized class loading P: |
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| 16:31.41 | alestane | Looks like changing css is the way to go. |
| 16:33.57 | Fisker`nosoap | yay adys`nosopa |
| 16:33.57 | Fisker`nosoap | http://developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/ |
| 16:34.03 | Fisker`nosoap | my site is now up |
| 16:34.06 | Fisker`nosoap | to proclaim it is down |
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| 16:40.30 | Dark_Elf | Q: Are you planning on bringing in any smaller patches between now and Pandaria? Dave Kosak: There's not a plan 4.3 is definitely the climax of Cataclysm so there's no more Cataclysm content. Traditionally we've had a grace period where we patch the game before the expansion comes out and you get sort of mechanical changes before you get the new expansion content. So we'll have a world event prior to Mists of Pandaria, but |
| 16:40.31 | Dark_Elf | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:42.33 | Kraps_w | 12/12/2011 Customer paid for the year |
| 16:42.35 | Kraps_w | 1/12/2012 Customer says never received these. |
| 16:42.37 | Kraps_w | 1/12/2012 Discontinued Item |
| 16:44.27 | Lopeppeppy | Nice. |
| 16:44.38 | Corrodias | what's that referring to? |
| 16:45.20 | Fisker`nosoap | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 16:45.30 | Fisker`nosoap | btw Cairenn |
| 16:45.36 | Cairenn | hmmm? |
| 16:45.37 | Fisker`nosoap | <copyrighted material> |
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| 16:45.40 | Fisker`nosoap | oh nos |
| 16:45.44 | Fisker`nosoap | your channel is gone |
| 16:45.50 | Cairenn | heh |
| 16:46.20 | moop | what's the best way to track two identical buffs? same spell name and id. using UnitAura("player", spellName) returns the first only |
| 16:46.48 | moop | iterate from 1 to 40 and call UnitAura("player", i) would work, but I'm not sure how I'd differentiate between the two |
| 16:46.54 | moop | iterating* |
| 16:47.31 | Lopeppeppy | Oh noes, help. I can't make my trademark cookies anymore, because they are actually my girlfriend ERIN's trademark cookies!!! |
| 16:48.02 | nevcairiel | then they never really were your trademark cookies, so nothing lost? |
| 16:53.09 | Kraps_w | Corrodias: notes on an order at work |
| 16:55.40 | Lopeppeppy | *sniff sniff* |
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| 16:57.34 | alestane | helps Peppy eat her cookies. |
| 17:02.28 | Fisker`nosoap | Lopeppeppy is a terrorist |
| 17:02.56 | alestane | What does she terrorize? |
| 17:03.06 | alestane | If she terrorizes cookies, I'm seriously okay with that. |
| 17:06.17 | Lopeppeppy | rawr |
| 17:06.54 | Kraps_w | wow gj being xenophobic alestane |
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| 17:10.05 | alestane | I'm terribly opposed to the cookies' rights movement, I'm afraid. |
| 17:10.33 | Kraps_w | :( meanie |
| 17:11.02 | alestane | And you know what? I'm okay with that. |
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| 17:53.50 | foxlit | there's a shark on shakuras plateau :/ |
| 17:59.54 | Kaylin | kill it with zealots |
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| 18:04.15 | alestane | There's only one meadows way to go. |
| 18:04.25 | Lopeppeppy | Upside down. |
| 18:05.00 | Ackis | hey Fisker`nosoap If SOPA passes Madonna is going to be able to claim copyright infringement on your mom for being such a slutbag |
| 18:05.41 | Kraps_w | and Ackis comes out with all guns blazing! |
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| 18:09.12 | Fisker`nosoap | Ackis |
| 18:09.37 | Fisker`nosoap | If SOPA passes i'm going to be able to claim copyright infringement on your <blank> for being <blank> |
| 18:09.52 | Fisker`nosoap | that's the entire fucking point |
| 18:09.56 | Fisker`nosoap | not that you can use legitimately |
| 18:09.58 | Fisker`nosoap | cause you already can |
| 18:10.00 | Fisker`nosoap | l2dmca |
| 18:10.10 | Fisker`nosoap | which can also be abused but nevermind that |
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| 19:19.35 | foxlit | "...a statement by Senator Chris Dodd, Chairman and CEO of the Motion Picture Association of America, Inc. (MPAA) " amusing. |
| 19:22.14 | Kraps_w | what did he say |
| 19:22.47 | Kaylin | prob said lolnerds |
| 19:23.44 | Lopeppeppy | Do starfish have tentacles, do you think? What do you call those...arms? |
| 19:24.05 | Maldivia | ask wikipedia :P |
| 19:24.05 | Kaylin | yes |
| 19:24.13 | alestane | That SOPA is intended to "protect American jobs" |
| 19:24.23 | Kaylin | dey tuk our jerbs |
| 19:26.56 | foxlit | it's weird that you can hold an elected seat and be a CEO of MPAA at the same time. |
| 19:26.59 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. I see. Put that label on it, and it's okay? |
| 19:27.06 | foxlit | Shouldn't you have rules about that? |
| 19:27.43 | alestane | Everything that's intended to create or keep American jobs is apparently okay at the moment. |
| 19:28.17 | alestane | Oh, any conflict-of-interest study would apparently have a field day looking of Dodd's history. |
| 19:28.54 | alestane | Considering that whole business where he was one of a number of people offered special mortgage rates by, IIRC, Countrywide of all people. |
| 19:30.08 | alestane | Who are probably the deepest company still standing in the pool of sleaze surrounding teh subprime mortgage collapse. |
| 19:31.00 | alestane | Which makes it particularly amusing that he's one of the authors of the Dodd-Frank regulatory package that the Republicans are now wailing and gnashing their teeth to be destroying the financial industry. |
| 19:32.15 | Arrowmaster | so i woke up to an email from a recruiter about a job im not qualified for and a missed call on my cell from him, and another email from a different recruiter about no specific job |
| 19:32.58 | Arrowmaster | called the first back and got voicemail, emailed the 2nd back and got an appointment to meet with him next week |
| 19:34.02 | alestane | foxlit, it's generally assumed that legislators in the U.S. hold other positions of influence, as long as they're all fully disclosed. |
| 19:34.41 | alestane | The MPAA is a private organization, Congress can't require that he quit as long as his affiliation is known. |
| 19:35.02 | foxlit | That's too bad. |
| 19:36.26 | foxlit | probably more a matter of "doesn't" than "can't" really -- surely they could pass a law to that effect? |
| 19:36.31 | Maldivia | I thought John Dodd stopped being a senator a year ago, about 2 months before becoming CEO of the MPAA? |
| 19:36.50 | alestane | What would they say? |
| 19:37.29 | foxlit | for the duration of the term in congress, you are not to hold any other paid positions anywhere. |
| 19:37.29 | alestane | I'm fairly confident that whatever they did prohibit, people would find a way around/ |
| 19:37.34 | Maldivia | chris* |
| 19:38.58 | Maldivia | yeah, according to wiki he didn't run for reelection in the 2010 midterm elections |
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| 19:39.23 | Fisker`nosoap | foxlit :P |
| 19:39.23 | Fisker`nosoap | like |
| 19:39.23 | alestane | I'm sure in that case, a lot of people entering Congress would suddenly be paid in stock, and get their old jobs back if they had legislated in favor of their business. |
| 19:39.36 | Fisker`nosoap | There's like 3-4 people here with stocks in Royal Unibrew |
| 19:40.03 | Fisker`nosoap | though of course their votes weren't allowed on the water spillage thing |
| 19:40.26 | alestane | Vested interests are a fact of life, I'm afraid; usually the best management is to make sure that you put stuff in the hands of people with varied or conflicting vested interests, and make sure you know what they are. |
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| 19:40.45 | alestane | Besides, you're asking the foxes to legislate themselves from going into the henhouse. |
| 19:40.51 | foxlit | I wouldn't give up on removing them entirely |
| 19:41.28 | foxlit | yes I am :) |
| 19:41.34 | Jamash | the germen beer, Unibrau? |
| 19:41.52 | Fisker`nosoap | no |
| 19:41.55 | foxlit | ought to work, too, unless that system of government is no longer a democracy. Their personal interest should not be relevant. |
| 19:41.55 | Fisker`nosoap | It's danish |
| 19:41.58 | Fisker`nosoap | danish as fuck |
| 19:42.03 | alestane | And I don't remember if certain positions like board members are typically compensated directly. |
| 19:42.14 | Fisker`nosoap | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Unibrew |
| 19:42.37 | Jamash | Fisker`nosoap: why so radio? |
| 19:42.48 | Fisker`nosoap | what radio Jamash ? |
| 19:42.59 | Jamash | also I have noscript on so your trololol is useless against me |
| 19:43.17 | Fisker`nosoap | it wasn't trolololo |
| 19:43.28 | Kraps_w | foxlit: this is a republic, not a democracy :| |
| 19:43.31 | Fisker`nosoap | anyone with half a brain can press the escape button |
| 19:43.34 | Maldivia | Jamash: or just ?banner=none :) |
| 19:43.37 | Fisker`nosoap | sorry you're not one of them :( |
| 19:43.56 | Jamash | I have two brains |
| 19:44.21 | Jamash | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_soap,_radio |
| 19:46.05 | Fisker`nosoap | i hope for the fundraiser next year they'll do a jimmywalesout |
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| 19:48.56 | Kaylin | up to 18 different RMT sites for d2 on uswest that I've seen last 2 days |
| 19:52.55 | Fisker`nosoap | umad? |
| 19:53.13 | Kaylin | 4 minutes? |
| 19:55.51 | adys`nosopa | Fisker`nosoap: https://plus.google.com/115694705577863745195/posts/G3nwMGYjGWX am I trolling it right? |
| 19:57.05 | Ackis | all these "it gets better" videos, I should make one telling the truth, that it doesn't get better :P |
| 19:57.50 | Fisker`nosoap | i get it adys`nosopa |
| 20:00.52 | Fisker`nosoap | so adys`nosopa |
| 20:01.00 | Fisker`nosoap | when do you think we'll actually see google drive? :( |
| 20:01.34 | adys`nosopa | um |
| 20:01.40 | adys`nosopa | should take a while |
| 20:01.50 | Fisker`nosoap | :( |
| 20:01.52 | adys`nosopa | but likely with the next range of chromebooks |
| 20:02.04 | Fisker`nosoap | i thought it was coming @ CES since they 404'd their google drive page :( |
| 20:02.22 | Kraps_w | whats google drive |
| 20:02.30 | Kraps_w | is it like google wave |
| 20:02.40 | adys`nosopa | Kraps_w: a funky name for google docs, allowing more formats and such |
| 20:02.41 | Kraps_w | it sounds like google wave |
| 20:03.16 | Fisker`nosoap | it already allows like everything |
| 20:03.27 | Fisker`nosoap | but it's probably something like Dropbox |
| 20:03.35 | Fisker`nosoap | hopefully just with better Android integration :3 |
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| 20:13.00 | kd3|netbook | been interesting sitting in the common areas on campus today |
| 20:13.37 | nicoli_s | like a sitin? |
| 20:14.02 | kd3|netbook | nah. just overhearing the masses talk about enwiki being down |
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| 20:16.58 | Fisker`nosoap | did youtube troll us or is my browser screwing up? |
| 20:17.05 | Fisker`nosoap | looks like all videos i'm playing isn't playing |
| 20:17.06 | Fisker`nosoap | :( |
| 20:19.21 | adys`nosopa | Fisker`nosoap: oh my god refresh that g+ thread. |
| 20:20.39 | TC-Work | Shirik: Ping |
| 20:21.53 | Ackis | http://www.youtube.com/user/FUNKER530 |
| 20:22.24 | Fisker`nosoap | a wild Fisker`nosoap appears |
| 20:24.22 | karl_w_w | http://9gag.com/gag/1806222 |
| 20:26.27 | Fisker`nosoap | fucking spoilsport adys`nosopa |
| 20:26.36 | adys`nosopa | Fisker`nosoap: ? |
| 20:26.40 | Fisker`nosoap | F5 |
| 20:26.41 | karl_w_w | http://thedailywtf.com/ somebody's always gotta be different :P |
| 20:26.59 | adys`nosopa | wow. |
| 20:27.17 | Fisker`nosoap | can you -1? |
| 20:27.23 | adys`nosopa | no |
| 20:27.24 | adys`nosopa | but wtf |
| 20:27.36 | Ackis | karl_w_w: fark,com is white too |
| 20:28.11 | adys`nosopa | https://plus.google.com/u/0/115694705577863745195/posts/G3nwMGYjGWX |
| 20:28.12 | adys`nosopa | blinks |
| 20:28.20 | Kraps_w | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:28.32 | Kraps_w | dont forget about them |
| 20:28.41 | Fisker`nosoap | lolpls : |
| 20:28.43 | Fisker`nosoap | :( |
| 20:28.52 | Kraps_w | major players in the meme industry |
| 20:28.56 | Fisker`nosoap | this forum is using base64 encoding to save your password in plaintext |
| 20:28.58 | Fisker`nosoap | oh god |
| 20:31.05 | Ackis | man Bioware fucked up ToR today real good =/ |
| 20:31.15 | haste | SOPA! |
| 20:31.50 | nicoli_s | Ackis:you mean the Ilum stuff? |
| 20:31.53 | Ackis | yeah nicoli_s |
| 20:32.02 | nicoli_s | i havent even gotten anywhere near that far |
| 20:32.05 | nicoli_s | only 21 atm |
| 20:32.14 | nicoli_s | was up till 5 am importing that damn patch into our DB |
| 20:32.19 | Ackis | basically you can grind pvp rank in a fraction of the time because of the bugs |
| 20:32.33 | Ackis | something like it's 100x faster and you can be afk for it |
| 20:32.48 | nicoli_s | ouch |
| 20:33.11 | Fisker`nosoap | hey haste |
| 20:33.14 | Fisker`nosoap | seen my new website? |
| 20:33.27 | Fisker`nosoap | nicoli_s ilum stuff? |
| 20:33.30 | haste | hey Fisker`nosoap, no |
| 20:33.31 | Fisker`nosoap | That's so last month |
| 20:33.39 | Fisker`nosoap | Now you're getting banned for using the auction house for *gasp* profit |
| 20:33.45 | Fisker`nosoap | or grinding for *gasp* profit |
| 20:33.55 | Fisker`nosoap | http://developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/ <-best site ever |
| 20:37.55 | haste | you should fix the position of your ext over the image |
| 20:37.56 | haste | and change font |
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| 20:40.13 | kd3|netbook | on irc in class... 3rd class of the semester. does not bode well for the rest of the semester |
| 20:42.50 | karl_w_w | learn kd3|netbook |
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| 20:48.39 | karl_w_w | blue post in regards to people reporting BG bots: "our support teams will always investigate and take any appropriate action in accordance with our policies in this regard." |
| 20:48.43 | karl_w_w | total bullshit |
| 20:49.07 | karl_w_w | I watched a guy levelling up through BGs botting 100% of the time |
| 20:49.10 | Lopeppeppy | Why BS? Just because you don't see it instantaneous? |
| 20:49.18 | karl_w_w | I reported him, he was still doing it for weeks |
| 20:49.23 | karl_w_w | and nothing happened |
| 20:49.44 | karl_w_w | put him on my friend list, he would only log in to bot |
| 20:50.43 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. So you've got some options. 1) he wasn't botting, it just *looked* like he was, 2) he was botting and Bliz didn't get around to him in their vasty queue of people to examine, 3) he was botting and Bliz investigated and didn't care, 4) he was botting and we know from the past that Bliz does the bans for these types of accounts in large batches, not individually... |
| 20:51.11 | Lopeppeppy | Just because the reaction wasn't instant, doesn't mean that big brother isn't catching up. |
| 20:51.39 | karl_w_w | 2 and 3 are you just agreeing with me :P |
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| 20:51.57 | Xyphoid | i msis the herb botters |
| 20:52.14 | karl_w_w | 1 I can be sure isn't true |
| 20:52.59 | karl_w_w | the fact is though botting is worse than it's ever been |
| 20:53.16 | Lopeppeppy | No, you can't, because you're not him and you're not reading server logs. But #2 and #4 are the more likely cases. |
| 20:53.17 | Torhal|work | You're a bot! |
| 20:53.26 | karl_w_w | it's almost like they killed glider and that made everyone go out and make better bots |
| 20:54.06 | karl_w_w | I can be sure peppy |
| 20:54.24 | karl_w_w | It's practically impossible to always do the same things |
| 20:54.31 | karl_w_w | walk endlessly into the same bit of wall |
| 20:54.50 | karl_w_w | run to the exact same spot on the bg via the same path |
| 20:55.46 | karl_w_w | and he'd be on for a full day at a doing nothing but BGing |
| 20:59.45 | Fisker`nosoap | naw haste |
| 20:59.56 | Fisker`nosoap | i spent like 20 minutes in google to find the code to center it :( |
| 21:00.20 | Fisker`nosoap | why is it basically impossible as fuck to center shit? |
| 21:00.44 | Shirik | https://twitter.com/#!/gti/status/159526049967898624 |
| 21:01.08 | Fisker`nosoap | bots get warden'ed karl_w_w l2p and report him as fk |
| 21:01.10 | Fisker`nosoap | afk* |
| 21:01.48 | Fisker`nosoap | http://steamcommunity.com/id/Fisker |
| 21:01.49 | Fisker`nosoap | get it Shirik ? |
| 21:02.10 | TC-Work | you dont respond to pings do you Shirik |
| 21:02.36 | Shirik | what pings |
| 21:02.41 | TC-Work | 40 min ago |
| 21:03.33 | TC-Work | Shirik: anyway, have you figured out your schedule for this weekend? |
| 21:03.51 | TC-Work | and did you see my comment from yesterday about 500px.com |
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| 21:05.20 | Shirik | this weekend? |
| 21:05.22 | Shirik | it's next weekend |
| 21:09.35 | syrae | booooreeddd |
| 21:11.00 | Shirik | and I don't think so TC-Work |
| 21:16.27 | Fisker`nosoap | Once 50,000 US visitors have signed our pledge below, XDA will return. The current pledge count is: 50058 |
| 21:16.29 | Fisker`nosoap | fukken liars |
| 21:16.53 | Nechckn | TC-Work he is the worst to respond to pingies... the worster or worsterest, perhaps. ;-) |
| 21:17.45 | Nechckn | Good about /w though. |
| 21:18.14 | Torhal|work | pings MentalPower|Work relentlessly. |
| 21:18.47 | Fisker`nosoap | wtf haste |
| 21:18.52 | Fisker`nosoap | i don't understand the world anymore |
| 21:19.39 | Nechckn | Why are you trying to ping MentalPower|Work, Torhal? Has MentalPower|Work been not responding when you try to contact MentalPower|Work? |
| 21:19.56 | Nechckn | =D |
| 21:20.22 | Torhal|work | Nechckn: Unfortunately, MentalPower|Work is on the other side of the office. It isn't like I could shoot a Nerf gun at MentalPower|Work or anything like that. |
| 21:21.42 | Fisker`nosoap | HASTE |
| 21:21.47 | Fisker`nosoap | the world is not understood anymore |
| 21:21.48 | Fisker`nosoap | pls help |
| 21:22.06 | haste | Fisker`nosoap: https://twitter.com/#!/herpderpedia |
| 21:22.12 | Fisker`nosoap | i saw |
| 21:22.14 | Fisker`nosoap | but haste |
| 21:22.15 | Fisker`nosoap | get this |
| 21:22.38 | Fisker`nosoap | some norwegian played the same row in the nordic lottery twice |
| 21:22.40 | Fisker`nosoap | and won on it |
| 21:22.44 | Fisker`nosoap | i was like wat |
| 21:22.51 | haste | and |
| 21:22.58 | haste | it was a new record prize high |
| 21:23.02 | haste | so he got the record, twice |
| 21:23.30 | Fisker`nosoap | well i don't think the 26 million dkk is a new record |
| 21:23.55 | kd3|netbook | that herpderp account has been hilarious |
| 21:26.16 | Fisker`nosoap | the worst part is that you can't see if it's a troll or not |
| 21:26.31 | Fisker`nosoap | all you just know is that atleast one of them isn't |
| 21:30.18 | Arrowmaster | http://lmn.soup.io/post/221810896/Sherlock-Series-Three-Episode-One |
| 21:33.23 | Fisker`nosoap | i'm more pissed at the "a wizard did it"-technique used in the end |
| 21:33.54 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 21:37.02 | Shirik | I'm a wizard |
| 21:37.14 | Arrowmaster | i put on my robe and wizard hat |
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| 21:50.01 | Maldivia | Arrowmaster: yeah, I'm expecting something similar come s3e01 :P |
| 21:50.56 | Arrowmaster | followed by a full explanation of how he did it |
| 21:52.49 | mikma | cairenn: http://www.instructables.com/id/Unicorn-Poop/ |
| 21:52.53 | mikma | cairenn: have fun |
| 21:53.18 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 21:55.17 | kd3|netbook | grrs at campus IT |
| 21:55.26 | kd3|netbook | ~ping |
| 21:55.26 | purl | ~pong |
| 21:55.28 | alestane | sleeps in Cairenn's lap. This launch is driving my crazy. |
| 21:55.40 | Cairenn | pets alestane |
| 21:55.47 | alestane | purrs. |
| 21:57.07 | Shirik | fun fact: hour 2 of the enwiki blackout had 20% *more* traffic to enwp than this time last week |
| 21:58.00 | cbreak | 20% java script overhead for the blackout page |
| 21:59.00 | kd3|netbook | I'd wager 'zomg enwiki is broken?' traffic? |
| 21:59.06 | foxlit | why-isn't-it-working-refresh-refresh-refresh |
| 21:59.31 | cbreak | the blackout wasn't working for me until I realized I had to whitelist it in noscript... |
| 21:59.42 | Shirik | ha |
| 21:59.55 | kd3|netbook | which is fine. people with noscript are probably already aware of the issue |
| 22:00.29 | TC-Work | Shirik: ok, then next weekend. Also take a look at 500px.com it might be what you want since it looks nice and has a LR plugin. |
| 22:02.38 | Shirik | kd3|netbook: (User creation log); 08:02 . . Prodego (talk | contribs) created new account User:SOPAonWheels! (BECAUSE I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE) |
| 22:02.51 | kd3|netbook | lmfao |
| 22:03.11 | kd3|netbook | I've been watching rc. it's crazy how quiet it is |
| 22:03.38 | Shirik | the only thing that makes me :( is when I go to edit a page, it says "You have to be an administrator to edit this!" |
| 22:03.47 | Shirik | and then I'm like "fu stop lying to me" |
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| 22:06.06 | kd3|netbook | I'm more amused that that account was made an account creator for a while |
| 22:07.56 | Shirik | strange thing is they did change up the rights; account creators can't create accounts right now, but admins can |
| 22:08.03 | Shirik | but I'm not sure why they'd only go half way |
| 22:13.15 | durcyn | https://twitter.com/#!/andydaglas/status/159504341542240257 |
| 22:16.12 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 22:20.01 | Shirik | ok, really? https://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/soap%20Wikipedia |
| 22:21.18 | Arrowmaster | this is better https://twitter.com/#!/search/sofa%20Wikipedia |
| 22:23.17 | Arrowmaster | https://twitter.com/#!/ticking_tocking/status/159663317374341120 |
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| 22:25.09 | Cairenn | durcyn: *snark* |
| 22:27.38 | nicoli_s | lol |
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| 23:09.50 | TC-Work | "June 6th this year will see the final activation of the new network provision that has a capacity of around 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 unique addresses" |
| 23:09.58 | TC-Work | i wonder how long it will take us to hit that cap |
| 23:10.23 | Arrowmaster | easy considering how badly the allocation is |
| 23:10.46 | TC-Work | took us 40 years to hit the 4.3 Billion that is ipv4 |
| 23:11.26 | Arrowmaster | think of it this way, they are talking about giving each residential customer a /56 |
| 23:11.41 | Shirik | because we didn't learn from our past lessons |
| 23:11.46 | Shirik | that allocating blocks is stupid |
| 23:12.03 | Arrowmaster | the minimum they can allocate is a /64 |
| 23:12.34 | Arrowmaster | im not sure if it can be subnetted beyond that |
| 23:12.41 | Shirik | I'm more curious to see if NAT goes away in 10 years |
| 23:12.56 | Arrowmaster | if not then you use a /64 for every router to router link |
| 23:14.02 | cbreak | allocating blocks is neccessary if you want to keep the routing tables at least somewhat in check |
| 23:14.08 | cbreak | and I bet NATs will stick around. |
| 23:14.32 | cbreak | because they are an extremely simple way to get a quite secure network. |
| 23:14.33 | Shirik | my dream world: Every house is wired for ethernet, and my grandkids say to me "what's a router?" |
| 23:14.56 | Arrowmaster | ..... |
| 23:14.58 | TC-Work | i doubt houses will be 'wired'.... |
| 23:15.07 | cbreak | you won't have much from ethernet without a router :) |
| 23:15.21 | Shirik | well I mean much in the way cable is done today |
| 23:15.34 | Shirik | you just have a bunch of plugs in the wall you hook up to |
| 23:15.44 | Shirik | you don't hook up your signal to a single entity that then distributes your TV out to various boxes |
| 23:15.47 | cbreak | oh, you mean "Internet as unidirectional Push Protocol" |
| 23:16.00 | Shirik | no I just mean that home routers would become obsolete |
| 23:16.15 | cbreak | you'll need something to route network traffic |
| 23:16.33 | Shirik | but that can be done by the ISP |
| 23:17.02 | Shirik | then again the current restrictions on cable length don't really allow for that |
| 23:17.05 | Shirik | but we can fix that |
| 23:17.18 | Arrowmaster | ..... |
| 23:17.49 | cbreak | you'll still need routers to route between networks |
| 23:17.59 | Shirik | what I'm saying is your entire neighborhood would be a single network |
| 23:18.00 | Arrowmaster | you do not use copper wiring between areas that can be on different power transformers or have different grounds |
| 23:18.18 | cbreak | you're not a windows user, are you? :) |
| 23:18.34 | cbreak | they'd all die from a virus infection within hours |
| 23:18.41 | Shirik | you can't really let the flaws of today let you stop making progress |
| 23:18.46 | Arrowmaster | hell you arent even supposed to use copper wiring between floors in the same building under some circumstances |
| 23:18.48 | Shirik | yes, there's things to fix, but it could still be done |
| 23:19.23 | Shirik | alternative: nationwide wireless |
| 23:19.23 | Shirik | actually I like that option better |
| 23:19.27 | cbreak | already there. |
| 23:19.35 | cbreak | GSM. |
| 23:19.43 | cbreak | or UMTS I guess |
| 23:19.53 | Shirik | I've never tried to play a game over GSM |
| 23:20.07 | cbreak | because it's expensive? :) |
| 23:20.15 | Arrowmaster | because its impossible |
| 23:20.28 | Arrowmaster | GSM doesnt do data |
| 23:20.32 | cbreak | Chess-by-email |
| 23:20.40 | cbreak | GSM does data via GPRS |
| 23:20.48 | Shirik | GSM is 3G right? |
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| 23:20.51 | cbreak | no |
| 23:20.54 | Arrowmaster | GSM is 2g |
| 23:21.17 | Shirik | bleh |
| 23:21.31 | cbreak | UMTS is 3g |
| 23:21.37 | Shirik | well regardless, never tried a game over mobile communications |
| 23:21.41 | Arrowmaster | theres also EDGE to do data instead of GRPS |
| 23:22.08 | cbreak | enhanced datarate somethingsomething... |
| 23:22.18 | Arrowmaster | which is why i say GSM doesnt do data, there are extensions to GSM to do the data |
| 23:22.22 | cbreak | just a small standard enhancement afaik |
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| 23:47.14 | Cide | Shirik: make me a leg enchant |
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