| 00:04.29 | Xuerian | I guess the distilled sentiment I have is "All these young wipper-snappers are uppity and need to l2p". =| |
| 00:06.48 | TC-Work | I wonder if i can complain to HR about getting penis enlargement spam mail in my work email. |
| 00:06.58 | Xuerian | lol? |
| 00:07.07 | TC-Work | well, it's sexual abuse |
| 00:07.27 | Xuerian | I was amused by the fact that you were getting it at all |
| 00:08.07 | TC-Work | yea, i think the spam filter has expired. |
| 00:08.28 | TC-Work | "The Energize Updates Subscription for your Spam & Virus Firewall 300Vx, serial number [...], expired on 2011/12/31." |
| 00:08.34 | TC-Work | yup |
| 00:09.14 | Xuerian | So your spam AND virus filter is off. Smooth, YourITDept |
| 00:11.10 | TC-Work | Yea, that would be my department alrught |
| 00:11.13 | TC-Work | alright* |
| 00:11.22 | TC-Work | i just dont do that part |
| 00:12.43 | Xuerian | "So guys, we have a email virus filter to keep stupid people from filling their workstations with viruses, right?" "Of course." "You so sure about that?" |
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| 02:54.54 | TC-Work | anyone know why "set prompt = "$USER@$HOSTNAME [`date +'%D %r'`] %~%# "" is showing a static date/time? |
| 02:55.57 | Dagmar | because that's what you set it to |
| 02:56.19 | Dagmar | It's set right then and there with the evaluated result |
| 02:57.23 | Dagmar | If you want something that updates with each prompt, check the bash man page for PROMPT_COMMAND and PS[1-4] |
| 02:57.47 | Dagmar | Mainly you only need worry about PROMPT_COMMAND |
| 02:58.08 | TC-Work | i dont use bash, is that going to be an issue? |
| 02:58.19 | Dagmar | Yes. |
| 02:58.27 | Dagmar | Particularly because it's shell dependent |
| 02:58.33 | kd3 | your shell should have documentation on how to mess with the prompt |
| 03:02.13 | Torhal | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/illidan/Melesong/advanced |
| 03:02.15 | Torhal | Feh. |
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| 03:23.37 | Arrowmaster | this new google login method is really innovative, i would have never came up with something like it |
| 03:26.56 | Adys | Arrowmaster: ? |
| 03:27.15 | Arrowmaster | goto.google.com/login |
| 03:27.19 | Dagmar | Jesus I feel like I'm the only m'f'er who ever bothers to look at error_log |
| 03:27.23 | Adys | oh sesame |
| 03:28.06 | Dagmar | I get an alarm on a webserver, I look, it's system load is like 10+ and it's not doing much. It is, however, perpetually querying _itself_ for the result of an RSS feed because simplepie was *not* configured and obviously unable to write to the default location |
| 03:28.14 | Adys | Arrowmaster: thats really cool |
| 03:28.29 | Dagmar | Why am I not allowed to hunt shitty "web developers" for sport again, exactly? |
| 03:28.30 | Adys | Arrowmaster: whats in the qr code? |
| 03:28.42 | Arrowmaster | a url |
| 03:28.48 | Adys | i figured that much |
| 03:28.51 | Arrowmaster | with a unique session id |
| 03:28.53 | Adys | ah |
| 03:28.54 | Adys | yeah ok |
| 03:29.50 | Arrowmaster | some of the comments about it saying that it shouldnt let you change your password without having to enter it and other critical stuff should be address though |
| 03:31.07 | Adys | what other critical stuff? |
| 03:31.23 | Arrowmaster | deleting your account for instance |
| 03:31.48 | Arrowmaster | or possibly google checkout |
| 03:33.39 | Sintacks | so i turn off 3 of my top 10 CPU using addons and only gain 4 fps ... |
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| 03:42.55 | Dagmar | Sounds like time for a new video card |
| 03:43.10 | Dagmar | ...or maybe some clear thinking about CPU != GPU |
| 03:43.36 | TC-Work | more like ram iirwc |
| 03:43.56 | TC-Work | how is it that google wallet does not work on any carrier? |
| 03:45.18 | Arrowmaster | it does actually |
| 03:45.57 | TC-Work | "This item is not available on your carrier." |
| 03:47.31 | Sintacks | Dagmar, 5770 w/ 1GB GDDR5 and a Phenom II x4 965 @ 3.4GHz |
| 03:47.56 | Sintacks | TC-Work, 8GB DDR3 1600 |
| 03:48.40 | TC-Work | Sintacks: whats your current fps? |
| 03:48.46 | Sintacks | 30 |
| 03:48.49 | Sintacks | idle on the boat |
| 03:48.54 | TC-Work | and with no addons at all? |
| 03:48.59 | Sintacks | no... |
| 03:49.05 | TC-Work | no what? |
| 03:49.09 | Sintacks | no as in, i have addons |
| 03:49.21 | TC-Work | i mean what is the fps with zero addons enabled |
| 03:49.54 | Dagmar | Hmm... 30. Gosh that's a suspiciously significant number |
| 03:50.06 | TC-Work | shhh Dagmar |
| 03:50.23 | Arrowmaster | TC-Work: thats just carrier lockout on the market place, you can get the files online and install it fine |
| 03:50.31 | Dagmar | Perhaps you should turn off vsync and stop trying to substitute high FPS for having a penis that can be seen with the naked eye |
| 03:50.52 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: from what i see, it had to be hacked to get on there |
| 03:51.00 | Sintacks | TC-Work, i wouldn't know |
| 03:51.07 | TC-Work | try it? |
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| 03:51.48 | Arrowmaster | TC-Work: right for stock phones the carriers want it locked out apparently until they make agreements with google about it |
| 03:52.11 | Dagmar | F**k the carriers |
| 03:52.26 | Arrowmaster | the carriers have been fighting over a mobile payment method for years i think and google just swooped in and stole the market out from under them |
| 03:52.45 | Dagmar | Yeah, and now they're going to argue they deserve a cut because it happens over "their" networks |
| 03:52.49 | Dagmar | F**k them. |
| 03:52.54 | Arrowmaster | exactly |
| 03:53.30 | Dagmar | They did not harvest the wheat, they did not grind the flour, they did not roll the dough, they did not bake the bread. |
| 03:53.34 | Dagmar | ...so they can eat a cock. |
| 03:54.18 | Sintacks | TC-Work, why on earth would i play without addons |
| 03:57.21 | Dagmar | To see clearly that your FPS problem isn't addon-related |
| 04:11.03 | pompy | Shirik: ! bahh http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2012/01/most-people-probably-havent-paid-much-attention-to-thehuge-corporations-waging-war-in-washington-over-legislation-designed-to.html |
| 04:12.03 | pompy | http://www.examiner.com/computers-in-denver/house-kills-sopa nice |
| 04:15.47 | Dagmar | PIPA still going strong. |
| 04:15.53 | Dagmar | Same shit, different acronym |
| 04:16.07 | Dagmar | We're not done until the Senate kills their version as well |
| 04:17.38 | Dagmar | It's a shame the LATimes can't afford to hire reporters who actually do their background research |
| 04:18.54 | Sintacks | that would require hiring a normal person, who isn't retarded |
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| 04:36.12 | Shirik | pompy: Old news |
| 04:42.22 | pompy | :( |
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| 05:08.25 | TC-Work | http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/01/dsc00324-copy-1326679331.jpg That is so hilariously retarded. |
| 05:09.38 | Arrowmaster | what is it? |
| 05:09.52 | TC-Work | an ipod dock/speaker |
| 05:10.05 | Arrowmaster | the fuck |
| 05:10.06 | kd3 | wtf |
| 05:10.18 | TC-Work | http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/16/ces-2012-audio-roundup/ |
| 05:10.19 | TC-Work | yea |
| 05:11.40 | TC-Work | i weep for the children of whoever that that was a good idea |
| 05:11.43 | Arrowmaster | its going to sound horrible because its attached to a fucking ipod |
| 05:12.41 | TC-Work | s/that/thought/ |
| 05:13.55 | TC-Work | http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/16/surface-2-0-now-shipping-packing-pixelsense-and-gorilla-glass/ turn that into 6ft. x 6ft. and i want it |
| 05:13.59 | kd3 | $30k. 8x4 feet... 10k watts of audio |
| 05:14.00 | kd3 | WTF |
| 05:14.34 | Xuerian | TC-Work: Now that's nifty |
| 05:14.54 | Xuerian | Few practical uses, but nifty |
| 05:15.13 | TC-Work | i have always wanted a surface for D&D and BFG. MIT beat me too it, but they didnt go far enough |
| 05:15.32 | Xuerian | Yeah, that'd be cool. |
| 05:15.49 | Dagmar | I'd like to stab the people who keep trying to say you need a screen protector for Gorilla Glass. |
| 05:16.00 | Dagmar | The only utility there is if it can keep fingerprints down |
| 05:16.08 | TC-Work | Dagmar: gorilla glass...yes that was i was going to say |
| 05:16.17 | TC-Work | was what* |
| 05:16.51 | Dagmar | I tried to find one that would do a good job of keeping fingerprints under control |
| 05:17.10 | Dagmar | On literally every forum when someone asked about fingerprints, you'd see several morons going on about "BUT IT COULD SCRATCH!" |
| 05:17.37 | Dagmar | If your device is getting scratched up _with_ gorilla glass, no crappy polymer film is going to help |
| 05:17.54 | Dagmar | ...and you should probably stop storing your tablet in the cement mixer |
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| 05:18.25 | Cide | I feel this needs to be the topic |
| 05:18.36 | Cide | Shirik: [Cide] you're awesome |
| 05:18.51 | TC-Work | no one would believe you though Cid |
| 05:19.01 | TC-Work | Cide* |
| 05:19.03 | Cide | I have screenshot pprofs |
| 05:19.07 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:19.14 | TC-Work | i have photoshop |
| 05:19.15 | Shirik | in b4 he shows out-of-context screenshot |
| 05:19.37 | Shirik | wait |
| 05:19.40 | Shirik | you can't out of context that it was one line |
| 05:20.07 | TC-Work | Dagmar: what about zagg? |
| 05:20.09 | kd3 | oh, wow. so enwiki's going through with it |
| 05:21.19 | Dagmar | TC-Work: Same stupid problem. They spend all their time talking about scratch protection, and none talking about "Your shit will no longer look like one giant smear when the display is off" |
| 05:21.45 | TC-Work | Dagmar: i had it on my Droid X and it worked fine. |
| 05:22.10 | Dagmar | Also, "self-healing properties" |
| 05:22.18 | TC-Work | because it's like rubber |
| 05:22.27 | Arrowmaster | ive got a zagg on my nexus s |
| 05:22.27 | Dagmar | Except that's jumped-up bullshit. |
| 05:22.34 | Dagmar | It doesn't _heal_ |
| 05:23.02 | Dagmar | Ah wait they *do* mention fingerprints |
| 05:23.08 | Dagmar | I might consider ordering from them |
| 05:23.20 | TC-Work | define heal. Because i can scratch mine and not feel the scratch after a bit |
| 05:23.30 | Dagmar | I've got serious OCD when it comes to fingerprints and the tablet means I pretty much wash my hands 4-5 times a day |
| 05:23.33 | TC-Work | it oozes closed if you will |
| 05:23.44 | Arrowmaster | fingerprints arent a problem but sometimes spots of oil from your fingers build up on it and you have to wipe it off |
| 05:23.49 | TC-Work | gets back to work |
| 05:24.35 | Dagmar | I like the illustration, and I understand what they're trying to convey, but anyone storing their iPhone in a bucket of metal screws needs their phone taken away from them. |
| 05:25.24 | Arrowmaster | reminds me that i still need to get the belt clip for my hard case replaced, i broke it at disney after blizzcon |
| 05:26.54 | Dagmar | if Zagg doesn't bounce my order for clearly bearing a UFP logo on it, they'll get my money |
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| 05:27.59 | Arrowmaster | you getting just a screen cover or the full phone one? |
| 05:28.25 | Dagmar | Full tablet |
| 05:29.17 | Dagmar | I bought the thing because they suddenly started looking cooler than most of the PADD units on Star Trek |
| 05:29.27 | Dagmar | I am unamused with Universal's response |
| 05:29.49 | Dagmar | I think if they want to bitch about people doing LCARS stuff they need to get off their asses and hire someone to write a goddamn LCARS app |
| 05:30.08 | Dagmar | I'll give them money for something they make. I won't let them keep me from doing it myself when they don't. |
| 05:30.54 | Arrowmaster | arent they having some tricorder contest? |
| 05:31.03 | Dagmar | Nope |
| 05:31.27 | Arrowmaster | i thought i saw something about 'build a real life tricoder and get paid' |
| 05:31.28 | Dagmar | ...but they were quick enough to get an PADD app bounced off the Android Market as infringing |
| 05:33.16 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: not them |
| 05:33.26 | TC-Work | but yea, it exists |
| 05:33.51 | TC-Work | it's a x-prize or whatnot |
| 05:35.22 | Kraps | WHOA GUYS http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_anti-SOPA_blackout |
| 05:35.42 | TC-Work | yes Kraps, a bunch of sites are doing it |
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| 05:38.43 | BlackNet | :( none of my void storage stuff transfered over! |
| 05:38.59 | kd3 | gm ticket, go go go |
| 05:39.04 | BlackNet | did that. |
| 05:41.38 | Kaylin | I doubt they can help unfortunately |
| 05:41.40 | Kaylin | gl though |
| 05:42.00 | Dagmar | Kraps: Not to be mean, but... that's kinda old news man |
| 05:42.18 | Kraps | well that was mean |
| 05:42.29 | Dagmar | Kraps: Wednesday will probably be softened by the House having dropped SOPA, but this has been brewing for at least a week now |
| 05:42.32 | Kraps | mean meaniepants |
| 05:42.44 | Dagmar | A _lot_ of sites have been planning to "go dark" on the 18th |
| 05:42.59 | Dagmar | I think Google would, but they'd get sued if they did |
| 05:43.22 | Dagmar | Google turning their search engine off for a day would have people acting like it's the end of the world |
| 05:43.44 | Dagmar | ...especially the news sites who are so quick to claim Google is freeloading. Their ad revenues would be shit. |
| 05:44.12 | Dagmar | I still don't get what mental defect makes someone claim a company driving 80% of the traffic to their site for free is "freeloading" |
| 05:44.56 | Xuerian | Marketing. |
| 05:45.02 | Xuerian | It's a serious issue. |
| 05:45.12 | Xuerian | Join Marketing Anonymous today, we can help you recover. |
| 05:46.05 | Dagmar | I give it until about midday on Thursday before Forbes reports corporate productivity shot up 300% while Facebook and Twitter were dark |
| 05:46.15 | Kraps | who directs the directors Dagmar !? |
| 05:46.27 | Dagmar | Kraps: Juniper and F5. |
| 05:46.34 | Kraps | lol |
| 05:46.51 | Kraps | what other sites are going dark? |
| 05:47.07 | Dagmar | There's no telling now |
| 05:47.16 | Dagmar | I don't recall seeing anyone explain exactly what it means to "go dark" |
| 05:47.35 | Xuerian | I expect it will be anything to a highly informative page, themed black |
| 05:47.37 | Dagmar | Plus with the house dropping SOPA (but the senate still holding tightly to PIPA) some will probably drop |
| 05:47.39 | Xuerian | To a mock 404 |
| 05:48.06 | Dagmar | ...but I've definitely heard of a bunch of different sites saying they'll "go dark" once someone put a date on it |
| 05:48.11 | Dagmar | Wednesday should be amusing |
| 05:48.31 | Dagmar | If Facebook and Twitter both follow through, I will be at the office window most of the day listening to the sweet sound of co-ed suffering |
| 05:49.23 | Dagmar | Especially considering how many people have historically gone straight to "running in circles, hyperventilating"-mode when Facebook (by itself!) has gone down, before they remember they can freak out about it on Twitter |
| 05:49.52 | Dagmar | Maybe some of them will learn that the Internet is useful for more than just telling your friends you took a whiz |
| 05:50.04 | Kraps | time to sign up for G+ |
| 05:50.14 | Dagmar | Uh oh |
| 05:50.31 | Dagmar | Better cross your fingers someone doesn't decide your name is "inauthentic" |
| 05:50.58 | Dagmar | Hopefully the EFF will be able to get them to stop posturing and actually fix their policies |
| 05:51.17 | Xuerian | Relevant: http://grooveshark.com/s/The+Tribulations+Of+Muffy+And+Percival/3CrFQN?src=5 (End of the song) |
| 05:51.36 | Dagmar | So long as they don't allow psuedonyms, Google+ is _less_ useful than Facebook |
| 05:53.07 | Dagmar | Xuerian: is that the guy who did the Linux is for Evil Masterminds animation? |
| 05:53.14 | Xuerian | Dagmar: Duno :3 |
| 05:54.06 | Wobin | Dagmar: did you get done for on G+? |
| 05:54.19 | Dagmar | Wobin: The fuckers won't even talk to me |
| 05:54.27 | Wobin | Bastards |
| 05:54.49 | Xuerian | You know, for such a large organization trying to communicate with google is like talking to a stone wall |
| 05:54.50 | Wobin | although I don't think d'Surreal is a popular family name |
| 05:54.58 | Dagmar | I am seriously considering looking into how hard it would be to get a gov't ID with the name on i |
| 05:54.59 | Dagmar | t |
| 05:55.03 | Xuerian | Actually, it's like talking to a soundproof stone wall. You don't even hear a echo |
| 05:55.11 | Wobin | Dagmar: I think that's been tried |
| 05:55.15 | Dagmar | Xuerian: I got _one_ form letter back from them |
| 05:55.22 | Dagmar | From "Calvin". |
| 05:55.37 | Dagmar | Who clearly values his psudonymity because he otherwise has no last name. |
| 05:55.50 | Wobin | http://stilgherrian.com/only-one-name/right-google-you-stupid-cunts-this-is-simply-not-on/ |
| 05:56.00 | Xuerian | Dagmar: Yeah.. That's really what scares me about google. Not all the "They have your info", it's that it's almost completely dark except for what they want you to see, and that's not really that much |
| 05:56.30 | Wobin | he's a bit mouthy |
| 05:56.32 | Dagmar | Xuerian: Well, this issue is that they've got one group of people only doing Google+, and those people are apparently headed up by a dick. |
| 05:56.48 | Dagmar | I could argue in court that my name doesn't violate their policy, and I would *win* |
| 05:57.05 | Xuerian | What really? One group? I thought G+ was their master lynchpin strategy that they weren't going to let fail (again) |
| 05:57.30 | Dagmar | "The Names Policy requires that you use the name that you are commonly referred to in real life in your profile." |
| 05:57.42 | Dagmar | ...which for me would be "Dagmar". |
| 05:58.15 | Dagmar | Some small-minded person over there has decided they're going to make value judgements about people's names instead of adhering to their own policy. |
| 05:58.33 | Xuerian | BPLFH |
| 05:58.34 | Dagmar | I was *way* more polite about it than that guy is being. |
| 05:58.37 | Xuerian | Bastard Project Lead from Hell. |
| 06:02.22 | Xuerian | Honestly, if they don't improve the service and fix the problems I'm just not going to use it. There's plenty of alternatives, and unless they force me to make or keep my profile public, it's their loss and not much of my concern.. That said, I'm still sympathetically miffed that they won't fix the stupid policy. |
| 06:10.05 | Xuerian | Cide: Aww yee. Top colorful language spots.http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/wowuidev.html.gz |
| 06:12.21 | Fisker | hey Wobin |
| 06:12.23 | Fisker | not so hey Dagmar |
| 06:14.38 | Dagmar | Heck I was mainly using it to encourage my friends to get off Facebook and it's hideous security issues and insane privacy changes |
| 06:15.27 | Dagmar | I originally made the Facebook account as a lark, and was kinda suprised how many people I'd not heard from in years found me in the space of a month |
| 06:15.43 | Dagmar | People who didn't even know what the internet was when I met them. |
| 06:19.38 | Xuerian | Now this is nifty too: http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/12/vuzix-augmented-reality-smart-glasses-prototype-hands-on-video/ |
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| 06:24.44 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 06:24.50 | Fisker | not so hey Dagmar |
| 06:27.19 | Fisker | oh how i hate Windows Activation |
| 06:27.26 | Xuerian | What activation? |
| 06:27.42 | mckenziemc1 | hey Windows Activation |
| 06:27.42 | Fisker | a few days ago i was told my key couldn't be activated prompting me to use a billion years typing in 64 digits over the phone |
| 06:27.46 | Fisker | so i figured i'd wait |
| 06:27.49 | Fisker | and now there's no problem |
| 06:27.50 | Fisker | lol |
| 06:27.54 | Xuerian | Oh, that activation. That must be fun. |
| 06:27.57 | Fisker | thanks for being a dick :( |
| 06:28.14 | Xuerian | I was curious. |
| 06:28.44 | Fisker | i was talking about windows activation |
| 06:28.57 | Fisker | if waiting it out works, why the hell bother me with phone activation? |
| 06:29.08 | Xuerian | Why not? |
| 06:30.10 | Fisker | now i hate you |
| 06:30.16 | Fisker | for free |
| 06:30.26 | Xuerian | It was a purely practical question. Why not bother you? What does it cost them? |
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| 06:59.39 | Thunder_Child | so i lent some family members an external HD and a flash drive. It comes back in a plastic baggie with both items and a magnet....a fucking magnet. |
| 06:59.50 | Thunder_Child | so much hatred. |
| 06:59.55 | Xuerian | ... |
| 07:00.01 | Cairenn | ! |
| 07:00.03 | Cairenn | >< |
| 07:00.07 | Xuerian | Intentional? |
| 07:00.10 | Arrowmaster | its not like the magnet can do any damage |
| 07:00.11 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 07:00.25 | Arrowmaster | it would have to be a rare earth magnet to do any damage |
| 07:00.52 | Thunder_Child | i doubt it did any dammge Arrowmaster, it's just....a magnet! |
| 07:01.47 | Arrowmaster | yes we are supposed to keep the commoners believing that getting anything magnetic near a harddrive will cause all the data to be instantly lost |
| 07:03.39 | Thunder_Child | i rather do like the movies where a magnet gets too close to the computer and the monitors visual starts getting wavy lines |
| 07:03.59 | Arrowmaster | and its an lcd? |
| 07:04.02 | karl_w_w | that's not a movie thing that's real :P |
| 07:04.04 | Xuerian | Works when you replace "computer" with "crt" :p |
| 07:04.14 | Thunder_Child | yes, not the monitor, the computer |
| 07:04.20 | karl_w_w | haha |
| 07:04.49 | Arrowmaster | seen worse |
| 07:04.58 | Arrowmaster | watch NCIS |
| 07:05.14 | Xuerian | I hate their writers.. |
| 07:05.18 | Xuerian | They do it intentionally. |
| 07:05.23 | Arrowmaster | yeah i think they do |
| 07:05.26 | Xuerian | No, they do |
| 07:05.28 | Xuerian | literally |
| 07:05.29 | Thunder_Child | i like the show, it's funny |
| 07:05.59 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:06.07 | Xuerian | The show is great. |
| 07:07.11 | Xuerian | I believe there was a comment from someone who worked on/with it on Reddit, and they confirmed it was pretty much a running gag to see how ridiculous they could do the computer sections. I don't remember if if was ever verified, but I believe it without a doubt regardless |
| 07:08.08 | Thunder_Child | i agree |
| 07:08.09 | Arrowmaster | the NCIS LA writers dont do it as often but when they do its way worse |
| 07:08.29 | Xuerian | They're good trolls, credit where credit is due |
| 07:15.24 | Fisker | seems very realistic to me |
| 07:16.01 | Fisker | especially the time where they were gettting hacked and they had to defend their precious computer with both of them using the same keyboard |
| 07:16.14 | Xuerian | Sorry Fisker, could you resend that? I had to clear the chat log before I finished reading because Windows Activation ... oh right, it doesn't cause me problems.. |
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| 07:17.09 | Fisker | yumadbro? |
| 07:17.18 | Thunder_Child | so i just got a text of "JDOGbaggjbfab,G#M407,b,c,6B215BC67801," |
| 07:18.09 | Xuerian | Fisker: Quite the opposite, I just reminded myself of something that doesn't give me trouble. I'm feeling quite good now =) |
| 07:18.15 | Xuerian | Thunder_Child: Aliens. |
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| 07:18.49 | Thunder_Child | Xuerian: no doubt |
| 07:19.42 | Fisker | windows activation didn't give me trouble either as i said |
| 07:19.52 | Thunder_Child | FYI woot-off |
| 07:20.48 | Xuerian | Fisker: What? Oh. No, I wasn't talking about that. I was talking about .. Yeah I don't know anymore. |
| 07:21.19 | Xuerian | Thunder_Child: That's still 70$ higher than they went on firesale, iirc :p |
| 07:21.25 | Xuerian | Oh wait, galaxy tab. |
| 07:21.26 | Xuerian | Hm. |
| 07:21.37 | Thunder_Child | yea, not the blackberry thing |
| 07:21.51 | Xuerian | I was talking about the other one, but yeah. |
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| 07:26.17 | Fisker | i want asus to make a windows 8 tablet/transformer :O |
| 07:26.57 | Kaylin | transformers: slacking off at work in disguise |
| 07:31.48 | Shirik | to all that ever dare enter the stock market: capital gains are evil |
| 07:32.15 | Xuerian | s/dare enter the stock market/dare be a normal person entering the stock market/ |
| 07:36.55 | Shirik | I spent the last hour or so finding a way to turn a $1k tax liability into a refund |
| 07:40.33 | Thunder_Child | lets all cheat the system with Shirik |
| 07:40.57 | Shirik | it got a lot easier when I realized that my move to Oregon was a deductible expense |
| 07:42.27 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: you chose when is best next weekend since you have the busier schedule. |
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| 08:10.38 | karl_w_w | good dark legacy comic this week |
| 08:11.06 | Xuerian | Yeah, that was funny. |
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| 08:15.28 | lua_bot | CHAT_MSG_GUILD: Fires when a message is received in the guild chat channel (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/CHAT_MSG_GUILD) |
| 08:17.49 | mckenziemc | !api SendChatMessage |
| 08:17.49 | lua_bot | SendChatMessage: Sends a chat message (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SendChatMessage) |
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| 08:26.04 | karl_w_w | http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/01/16/wikipedias-community-calls-for-anti-sopa-blackout-january-18/ amuzing comments yay! |
| 08:37.30 | Xuerian | So "This is not a hero class", wonder what else blizz might introduce as a hero class |
| 08:38.41 | Xuerian | > Cataclysm talents "Con - Players got grumpy" oh har har har har |
| 08:50.29 | Dagmar | It's kind of sad how many posters on that WP clearly have no idea that this is a battle we've been fighting for _months_ |
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| 08:50.59 | Dagmar | That everything they've been suggesting as reasonable has been tried, and now we're at the point where something dramatic has to happen. |
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| 09:35.09 | karl_w_w | I especially liked the guy who said he was doing his masters and regularly cites wikipedia |
| 09:35.22 | karl_w_w | having said that, even he was in support of the decision |
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| 09:58.50 | karl_w_w | DCUO in 3 sentences: Lots of fun if you like combat based mmos. A few funky controls to get used to. Decent depth and replayability. |
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| 11:58.48 | zenzio | I impress myself... was working on a javascript rewrite, and was asked to do a different fix first. The javascript rewrite, then only half done, crashed Firefox 100% of the time |
| 11:59.41 | karl_w_w | nice |
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| 11:59.58 | zenzio | Chrome handled it though... sadly. It's difficult being a Firefox fanboy |
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| 12:12.42 | Mikk | zenzio: for funz, run it through Opera |
| 12:13.12 | zenzio | hm, I should... |
| 12:13.41 | Mikk | and yeah with chrome out i'm finding myself less firefox fanboy-ey all the time |
| 12:14.15 | Mikk | always did like Opera though. mail+rss in browser yepyep. |
| 12:15.56 | haste | I'd like to use opera on my laptop, but they seem to provide settings and features for all the wrong things |
| 12:17.11 | haste | I still give it a whirl for every new version they push out |
| 12:17.29 | haste | right now it seems to be better on the battery than chrome/firefox |
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| 12:26.08 | zenzio | Mikk: I'm not finding myself less Firefox-fanboy..ey?, it's just harder to defend it when it's crashing like this |
| 12:27.05 | Kalroth | maybe you should learn to write javascript instead! |
| 12:30.26 | Mikk | haste: hm? explain =) |
| 12:30.36 | Mikk | mostly curious since i'm happy opera user |
| 12:30.38 | Mikk | and chrome |
| 12:31.39 | zenzio | Kalroth: I definitely have shortocomings, but in this case I had left it in a horribly half-assed state =D |
| 12:31.51 | zenzio | ... as if that wasn't a shortcoming O_o |
| 12:32.56 | Mikk | half shortassed coming |
| 12:37.44 | Kalroth | short halfcoming ass |
| 12:44.46 | haste | Mikk: it's mainly that I can't get the UI to take up less space without loosing readability, the tabs are large regardless of what I change |
| 12:45.05 | Mikk | there's skins |
| 12:45.05 | haste | Mikk: it also uses some time to draw when I hange virtual desktop |
| 12:45.27 | haste | and they're able to change those sizes? |
| 12:45.33 | Mikk | yes |
| 12:46.04 | haste | then there's only the drawing left really |
| 12:46.23 | airtonix | i once a fisker |
| 12:47.08 | airtonix | hey haste |
| 12:47.17 | airtonix | did you know zfs? |
| 12:48.03 | haste | y |
| 12:48.27 | airtonix | because it's awesomesauce |
| 12:48.27 | haste | did it murder someone as well? |
| 12:48.47 | airtonix | i think it murders people in parralell but calls them a corporation |
| 12:52.34 | haste | is there a proper zfs port for linux tho'? |
| 12:52.41 | haste | I thought the native port project died |
| 12:53.39 | haste | looks like its still alive actually :o |
| 12:55.06 | zenzio | native, is that deeper than the user-space one? (I haven't tried ZFS myself, but a colleague swears by it) |
| 13:04.34 | haste | zenzio: right now theres' two ZFS ports for Linux, one through FUSE and one which is a native kernel file system |
| 13:04.48 | zenzio | ah, I see |
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| 13:13.50 | airtonix | haste: i have the native zfs port installed on my server at work |
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| 13:14.51 | airtonix | haste: but you can just use freenas if you want an easy to install/setup/use zfs storage server |
| 13:24.03 | Fisker | i'm going to airtonix you |
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| 13:57.39 | zenzio | I may be wrong here, but it appear to me that FF was crashing because the JS engine was seriously unhappy about me trying to access properties on an object when the object didn't exist. Moved a piece of (working) code from an AJAX callback, where data was read from object data. Forgetting to include the data object to the new code location, I was trying to access data.* and it crashed hard |
| 13:57.51 | zenzio | soon as I fixed that, it had no problems with the page |
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| 13:58.09 | zenzio | *if* I'm right about this, then it could explain the random crashes I've seen after 9 |
| 13:58.34 | zenzio | there's plenty of bad JS around that I'm sure will be doing the same |
| 14:00.11 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3759726690?page=2#39 |
| 14:00.13 | bluspacecow | i lolzed |
| 14:00.44 | Fisker | i once bluspacecow'd a guy |
| 14:01.16 | Fisker | i use the same password for everything bluspacecow |
| 14:01.16 | Kraps | he was Fiskered |
| 14:06.06 | starlon | burps. |
| 14:08.46 | Mikk | zenzio: bugreport? |
| 14:09.48 | zenzio | Mikk: aye, will tyr |
| 14:09.50 | zenzio | *try |
| 14:14.00 | bluspacecow | i lolzed |
| 14:14.04 | bluspacecow | @ fisker |
| 14:14.19 | bluspacecow | imma lethal weapon nows! |
| 14:19.26 | Fisker | :O |
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| 15:08.01 | Ackis | we were doing ultraxion last night and we got a guild achievement (fishing) while doing it, one of our members had the guild achievement cover his button he needed to click so he died |
| 15:08.03 | Ackis | it was funny |
| 15:09.23 | mikma | ackis: ahhahahaha |
| 15:10.00 | Dagmar | That's hilarious |
| 15:10.05 | Dagmar | Killed by achievements. |
| 15:10.56 | Dagmar | Who would have ever guessed fishing could be so dangerous |
| 15:11.45 | Ackis | it was amusing |
| 15:18.35 | Ackis | http://i.imgur.com/Dn6z9.jpg |
| 15:18.38 | Ackis | Torhal|work: ^ |
| 15:18.41 | Ackis | bluspacecow: ^^ |
| 15:18.45 | Ackis | pompy: ^^^ |
| 15:19.01 | Torhal|work | That's hot, Ackis. |
| 15:19.19 | bluspacecow | why dont the tabs work :( |
| 15:19.28 | Ackis | 30 degree temperature difference in 12 hours |
| 15:21.05 | karl_w_w | who remembers who to talk to to start flame leviathan without towers up? |
| 15:21.06 | Torhal|work | But there are only six degrees of Kevin Bacon, Ackis. |
| 15:21.07 | karl_w_w | is it brann? |
| 15:21.54 | nevcairiel | doesnt brann toggle the heroic mode |
| 15:22.04 | nevcairiel | just go there and engage |
| 15:29.19 | Stanzilla | there are 2 npcs and brann toggles normal mode iirc |
| 15:30.54 | nevcairiel | usually reading the texts they say helps |
| 15:31.43 | Stanzilla | indeed |
| 15:33.56 | haste | mikma: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMtUvB7362s I almost fell of my chair :D |
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| 15:54.08 | mikma | haste: no wonder, you have such a tiny ass |
| 16:04.04 | karl_w_w | it was brann, but his text didnt mention it :P |
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| 16:17.36 | Ackis | http://life.nationalpost.com/2012/01/17/discerning-germs-hygiene-hypothesis-favours-exposure-over-manic-cleanliness/ |
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| 16:22.36 | Ackis | guildmate was telling us a story about him and his wife... they were in bed together and his wife said that the first one to get up should make coffee... he proceeded to pull the covers over her head and dutch oven her. She got out of bed and made coffee. WINNING |
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| 16:33.23 | karl_w_w | Ackis re. your link, I thought everyone knew that |
| 16:33.30 | karl_w_w | seems like common sense to me |
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| 16:49.47 | ccox | http://www.openculture.com/2012/01/madeline_365_a_year_in_the_life.html |
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| 17:23.33 | Maldivia | Wee... the best show on TV returns tonight!! |
| 17:23.46 | Kraps_w | that show sucks |
| 17:23.57 | Maldivia | Southland... no! |
| 17:24.13 | Kraps_w | oh never saw it |
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| 17:25.08 | Fisker | SG: Universe is back Maldivia ? |
| 17:25.25 | Maldivia | Fisker: unfortunately not :) |
| 17:25.35 | Kraps_w | The Event? |
| 17:26.06 | Maldivia | as much as I like Jason Ritter... I didn't last 2 episodes of the event :P |
| 17:26.22 | Kraps_w | haha |
| 17:26.25 | bluspacecow | Fox Morning News ? |
| 17:26.28 | Kraps_w | i lasted like 4 |
| 17:27.05 | Kraps_w | i'm not a big tv watcher anyway |
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| 18:41.41 | pompy | http://nerdreactor.com/2012/01/17/tera-the-action-mmo-finally-gets-a-release-date/ |
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| 18:56.34 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/paris_then_and_now.jpg |
| 18:56.52 | karl_w_w | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-goes-public-with-plans-for-its-new-windows-8-file-system/11666 |
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| 19:00.23 | durcyn | wow. |
| 19:00.25 | durcyn | zdnet still exists! |
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| 19:14.47 | kd3|netbook | damn you underclassmen. get off of campus so I can park |
| 19:18.02 | Mihau | Stupid seniors thinking they are important, this is my spot! |
| 19:25.07 | Torhal|work | Mihau: You're suddenly back in High School? |
| 19:25.20 | Torhal|work | Oh! |
| 19:26.43 | kd3|netbook | I'd be a little alarmed if HS freshmen are old enough to drive |
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| 19:27.08 | Torhal|work | Well, they could be standing around in a parking spot. |
| 19:27.34 | Mihau | kd3: Depends on the high school. |
| 19:27.41 | Torhal|work | Hah |
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| 19:34.50 | TC-Work | "Maximum size of a single file 2^64-1 bytes" well, thats a bit better than FAT |
| 19:37.15 | TC-Work | which is 18.45 EB |
| 19:37.38 | Arrowmaster | odd size |
| 19:37.53 | TC-Work | not in the standard factor of 2 |
| 19:38.39 | TC-Work | "estimated information content of all human knowledge (~~ 12 EB )" |
| 19:39.38 | durcyn | (nb: 11 EB of that is porn) |
| 19:39.39 | bluspacecow | Cairenn|afk: http://cutestuff.co/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/my-cute-bunny-feets.jpg |
| 19:40.00 | Arrowmaster | that should be 16 EB for 2^64-1 bytes |
| 19:40.33 | Arrowmaster | or 16 EiB if you will |
| 19:40.44 | Arrowmaster | same size as ntfs |
| 19:41.05 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: argue with wolfram http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=2^64-1+bytes+in+EB |
| 19:41.35 | Arrowmaster | yeah its using base10 |
| 19:41.50 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=2^64-1+bytes+in+EiB |
| 19:41.52 | Arrowmaster | i win |
| 19:42.36 | durcyn | TC-Work is a shill for the hard drive industry from the future |
| 19:43.04 | Maldivia | Arrowmaster: 2^64-1 is not 16 EiB... it's one byte short :P |
| 19:43.28 | Ackis | hah get owned |
| 19:44.01 | Ackis | wow Fisker is in a video game: http://i.imgur.com/gVTLl.png |
| 19:44.09 | Torhal|work | Maldivia: Pedant |
| 19:44.22 | durcyn | Ackis: euthanize thyself |
| 19:45.26 | Ackis | durcyn: my life insurance won't pay out if I do it myself :( send Torhal|work to do it for me |
| 19:45.27 | Arrowmaster | whatever im going back to watching anime |
| 19:47.46 | kd3|netbook | AnoNatsu has been a great nostalgia driver |
| 19:48.24 | kd3|netbook | looking forward to the rest of that season about as much as nisemono |
| 19:49.35 | Arrowmaster | havent seen that yet |
| 19:50.07 | kd3|netbook | you ever watch onegai teacher/twins? |
| 19:50.14 | Arrowmaster | Aquarion EVOL has gotten me to download Sousei no Aquarion and im watching that now |
| 19:50.20 | Arrowmaster | nope |
| 19:51.26 | kd3|netbook | ah. then it may not be quite such a big deal for you. I rather enjoyed those two so I'm happy to go back to the same universe |
| 19:51.41 | kd3|netbook | the original aquarion was ok. didn't really resonate with me. music rocked, though |
| 19:52.29 | Arrowmaster | yeah im liking the new one better than the old one but the old ones decent |
| 19:53.18 | Arrowmaster | heard the person that did the music for macross F is doing aquarion evol |
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| 19:56.27 | kd3|netbook | kanno yoko? she did the original aquarion music too iirc |
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| 19:57.11 | Ackis | https://www.ifeveryoneknew.com/ |
| 20:03.46 | karl_w_w | I knew 4 of those 5 things and I've never even been to the US of A |
| 20:04.20 | foxlit | "then" expected near "knew" |
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| 20:06.22 | Mikk | bragging rights |
| 20:08.32 | karl_w_w | resto druid and holy pally healed 25 H on our realm :P |
| 20:14.08 | Stanzilla | I claim fake |
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| 20:20.29 | Maldivia | Ackis: hmm, why is is the document about the attacks on americans to jsutify war with Cuba stamped with NOPORN? |
| 20:22.20 | Nechckn | NOFORN is a US Government marking, meaning that it is not intended to be released to any Agency outside of the country. |
| 20:23.15 | Gnarfoz | makes more sense if you include the non-abbreviated term in the explanation: "no foreigners" ;p |
| 20:23.33 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: you're fake |
| 20:23.41 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: nope.avi |
| 20:23.52 | Gnarfoz | avi as proof? what is this, 1999? |
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| 20:30.03 | Nechckn | animated gif? |
| 20:37.08 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: it's madness |
| 20:37.10 | Stanzilla | actually spine atm |
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| 20:53.38 | Nechckn | Ackis nice linky, btw. |
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| 21:06.26 | p3lim | What is that multisampling does? I've tried all 4 values and I can't see any difference in the game world, only in UI (more crisp edges on frames on lower setting) |
| 21:07.17 | Gnarfoz | it's anti-aliasing |
| 21:07.52 | Gnarfoz | (interpolating jaggy edges on 3d object's edges) |
| 21:08.27 | p3lim | I can't see any difference in the game world tho |
| 21:09.33 | Gnarfoz | then you... either run a very high resolution on a small display |
| 21:09.48 | Gnarfoz | https://www.google.com/search?q=anti-aliasing&tbm=isch |
| 21:10.02 | p3lim | 1920x1080 on a 27" |
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| 21:10.49 | Gnarfoz | that's... the opposite of high-res+small-display |
| 21:11.05 | Gnarfoz | (actually it's the lowest pixel density on the market, basically) |
| 21:11.32 | Gnarfoz | turn it to 1x (i.e. off) and find some jaggies |
| 21:11.49 | p3lim | I can't been trying to find anything for a while now |
| 21:11.52 | Gnarfoz | then turn it to whatever the highest setting offered to you is - you'll notice |
| 21:12.08 | p3lim | Can my drivers override it? |
| 21:12.11 | Gnarfoz | maybe... does your graphics driver force it on globally? |
| 21:12.12 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 21:12.22 | p3lim | I have no idea if they are tho |
| 21:12.22 | Gnarfoz | but then it would be weird for the UI to show any effect |
| 21:12.45 | p3lim | Thing is, if I have it set on 8x, quite a few borders in the UI gets fuzzy |
| 21:12.53 | mikma | it's kinda odd that the default blizz' raid frames are giving out lua errors |
| 21:12.54 | p3lim | If I have it on 1x, they are nice and crisp |
| 21:13.29 | p3lim | GuildUI and ticket ui is also throwing errors |
| 21:13.47 | Gnarfoz | haha I have a really old screenshot of what that setting might look like in your drivers http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/transparency_aa.png |
| 21:14.22 | Gnarfoz | p3lim: it's not odd at all. it's anti-aliasing your 2d stuff because it can't tell it apart from the 3d stuff =) |
| 21:15.27 | p3lim | Its set to off for me too, though I did find a small difference |
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| 21:17.21 | kd3 | ok. it's time for a new cellphone |
| 21:17.31 | kd3 | anyone have suggestions? |
| 21:17.40 | p3lim | Gnarfoz: http://i43.tinypic.com/huiyhi.png |
| 21:18.01 | p3lim | kd3: Samsung Galaxy Nexus |
| 21:18.39 | Gnarfoz | p3lim: well, that's a sprite you're looking at there, go look for an actual polygon's borders ^^ |
| 21:18.50 | p3lim | example? |
| 21:19.03 | Gnarfoz | ...anything with a >0 width/depth |
| 21:19.16 | Gnarfoz | (but the screenshot shows your card can do and does Transparency AA) |
| 21:19.37 | Gnarfoz | actually, it looks like you labeled them wrong |
| 21:19.50 | p3lim | Yeah its the other way around :p |
| 21:20.05 | Alram | gn Gnarfoz |
| 21:20.12 | p3lim | I noticed the difference when I zoomed in my character's face |
| 21:20.18 | Gnarfoz | http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/riannah.jpg < vertical line to the right of the banner |
| 21:20.49 | p3lim | Gnarfoz: Yeah, those would show no matter what multisampling you have tho |
| 21:21.00 | p3lim | Maybe worse the lower you have ofcourse |
| 21:23.22 | Gnarfoz | eh? |
| 21:23.23 | p3lim | Gnarfoz: here is my issue tho, this is with multisampling set to 8x, zoomed in on my target and tot frame: http://i40.tinypic.com/j63m14.png |
| 21:23.32 | Gnarfoz | no, they would not show no matter what |
| 21:23.35 | Gnarfoz | that's exactly what AA does |
| 21:23.39 | Gnarfoz | it smoothes them out |
| 21:23.47 | p3lim | As you can see, border on my targetframe (big one) is nice and crisp, but the tot is blurry |
| 21:23.55 | Gnarfoz | that would be a basically a jaggy-free, slightly curved line at 8x |
| 21:24.00 | Gnarfoz | (probably already at 4x) |
| 21:24.17 | p3lim | I see lines like that beeing jagged in the game world, even with 8x |
| 21:24.26 | Gnarfoz | p3lim: yeah, don't turn on AA if you want pixel perfect UI ;) it won't be nice |
| 21:24.33 | Maldivia | p3lim: The crow at the D3 login screen, with and without AA enabled: http://i.imgur.com/KDX3q.png |
| 21:24.34 | Gnarfoz | p3lim: then something is utterly wrong in your setup |
| 21:25.03 | p3lim | Maldivia: yeah I noticed the difference on character models too |
| 21:25.03 | Arrowmaster | he might have AA set to a forced setting in his gfx card settings manager |
| 21:25.31 | p3lim | Arrowmaster: I don't, its set to 'off' |
| 21:25.33 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: but it works on textures |
| 21:25.42 | Gnarfoz | p3lim: that's "forced off", most probably |
| 21:25.46 | Gnarfoz | try "application controlled" |
| 21:26.11 | p3lim | antialiasing - mode is set to application controlled |
| 21:26.24 | p3lim | transparancy is set to off |
| 21:28.18 | Gnarfoz | that's... bananas |
| 21:28.54 | Gnarfoz | because what you've been saying points to the exact opposite settings (although I doubt you can have transparency AA on (and working) while AA is off) |
| 21:29.00 | Gnarfoz | you're weird, man! |
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| 21:30.03 | Xuerian | So I've heard you can start Cata areas at 78 if you get guild summoned there, anyone confirm? |
| 21:30.38 | p3lim | Gnarfoz: but why are some frames pixel perfect and some not? |
| 21:30.50 | p3lim | Gnarfoz: Every frame in my ui is good, except for tot and focus |
| 21:30.59 | Gnarfoz | because your graphics card is now mushing shit up (with the best of intentions) |
| 21:31.11 | Gnarfoz | p3lim: move either of those frames 1 px in some direction |
| 21:31.16 | Gnarfoz | it will change :D |
| 21:32.04 | p3lim | It doesn't, I have tried that |
| 21:32.35 | Sintacks | interesting. with FRAPS benchmarking, i can see the 5 Hour of Twilight casts on Ultra... from a spike of fps |
| 21:34.22 | p3lim | Gnarfoz: if I reparent them, it works |
| 21:34.24 | p3lim | :s |
| 21:36.44 | Gnarfoz | p3lim: mh? reparented but exact same pixel positions? |
| 21:36.54 | p3lim | yep |
| 21:37.11 | Gnarfoz | eyeballed or /fstack or something |
| 21:37.51 | p3lim | I set the parent of the tot to target, let the positions stay the same |
| 21:38.54 | p3lim | Did not work for the focus frame tho' |
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| 21:39.46 | p3lim | Gonna try keeping the parent to UIParent, but setting their position point from the frame next to them |
| 21:40.54 | p3lim | That worked with both of them |
| 21:40.56 | Gnarfoz | can't really imagine that being the reason, more likely it's moving by 1 pixel but the only thing you see is it getting sharper, not moving |
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| 21:41.02 | Gnarfoz | what was their parent before that? |
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| 21:41.12 | Gnarfoz | WorldFrame? :D |
| 21:41.18 | p3lim | Before I tried anything? |
| 21:41.27 | Gnarfoz | when they were blurry |
| 21:41.34 | p3lim | UIParent, still is |
| 21:42.23 | p3lim | Anyways, it works like this, guess the multisampling works a little weird |
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| 21:44.10 | Sintacks | default UI is fucking weird |
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| 21:53.15 | Phobix | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:53.16 | Phobix | if no arena focus, then focus arena 1, if arena 1 focues, focus arena 2, so on and so forth |
| 21:53.16 | Phobix | possible? |
| 21:53.16 | Phobix | seems straight forwad, jsut curious if its locked down by the wow api at all |
| 21:53.28 | Phobix | and then bind that to a key |
| 21:53.53 | Phobix | also Shadowed, why no right clcik focus for arena frames ala gladius? =( makes me sad =(( |
| 21:54.02 | p3lim | focus has to be set by key, button or chat, you can't set it through an addon |
| 21:54.02 | Arrowmaster | shouldnt be possible |
| 21:54.39 | Phobix | fuuu |
| 21:54.42 | Phobix | figures |
| 21:54.44 | Phobix | thanks! |
| 21:55.32 | Phobix | but wait, wouldnt I be activating a hardware event via the hot key? |
| 21:55.42 | Phobix | I have a mod that will cycle arena targets |
| 21:55.54 | Phobix | seems like its the same concept |
| 21:55.56 | p3lim | so you want a button that cycles focus through arena frames? |
| 21:55.59 | Arrowmaster | you cant do any conditionals for that |
| 21:55.59 | Phobix | yes |
| 21:56.11 | p3lim | Arrowmaster: you can |
| 21:56.18 | Seerah | just not compare units |
| 21:56.34 | Phobix | you guys know of a mdo already made? |
| 21:56.37 | Phobix | mod* |
| 21:56.38 | p3lim | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:56.49 | Arrowmaster | you can do the first one but not the rest |
| 21:56.53 | Phobix | right |
| 21:56.55 | Seerah | right, if arena1 exists, then focus it. But you can not then cycle through like that |
| 21:56.57 | Phobix | thats the issue I am running into |
| 21:57.08 | Phobix | if I could,I could just macro it =D |
| 21:57.14 | Seerah | ^^^^^ you can't |
| 21:57.24 | p3lim | Nope |
| 21:57.32 | Phobix | so not possible? |
| 21:57.37 | p3lim | You could make an addon that creates a button that focuses a unit |
| 21:57.38 | Seerah | .... |
| 21:57.38 | Arrowmaster | not possible |
| 21:57.44 | Phobix | that blows |
| 21:57.50 | p3lim | But for it to cycle, you'd need to change the attribute, and that is locked in combat |
| 21:57.50 | Phobix | ok, thanks for the time guys =)\ |
| 21:57.54 | Seerah | stop confusing him, p3lim :p |
| 21:58.11 | p3lim | Focus one unit works, cycling them like that doesnt |
| 21:58.14 | p3lim | atleast not in combat |
| 21:58.55 | Sintacks | holy shit i'm a bad rogue without my addons |
| 21:59.04 | Seerah | lol |
| 21:59.21 | Sintacks | trying to use the default UI and keep up the shit you normally do.... without the shit you watch your shit with |
| 21:59.23 | Sintacks | holy hell. |
| 21:59.47 | Seerah | think you could squeeze a couple more "shit"s in that sentence ;) |
| 22:00.06 | Sintacks | i could |
| 22:00.12 | Dark_Elf | holy shit |
| 22:00.23 | Sintacks | so... i never went bellow 20 fps with ALL my addons turned off |
| 22:01.12 | Sintacks | i only went above 18 fps with them on, during Hour of Twilight |
| 22:02.36 | Seerah | so... what addons do you usually run? |
| 22:02.45 | Sintacks | lol |
| 22:04.43 | Sintacks | http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5384/fpsd.png |
| 22:05.11 | Phobix | so since I cant do exactly what I want, you guys know of any solutions that might be similiar? |
| 22:05.13 | Sintacks | i forgot to turn on benchmarking at first, and then died and turned it off, but i got what i needed out of it |
| 22:05.51 | Sintacks | only thing i can think of is 3/5 macros to target arena1-5 |
| 22:05.53 | Sintacks | but htat's 5 buttons. |
| 22:06.21 | Seerah | or /focus mouseover |
| 22:06.45 | Sintacks | can you do a focus mouseover with clique? |
| 22:06.54 | Seerah | of course |
| 22:06.55 | Gnarfoz | clique works with frames |
| 22:07.00 | Phobix | yea, but its super clunky |
| 22:07.01 | Gnarfoz | you don't even need clique for it |
| 22:07.04 | Phobix | have to target them first |
| 22:07.09 | Seerah | no you don't |
| 22:07.13 | Gnarfoz | mouseover is a first class unit |
| 22:07.14 | Phobix | with clique? |
| 22:07.21 | Seerah | yes, with clique |
| 22:07.22 | Gnarfoz | can just do /cast [@mouseover] spellz |
| 22:07.24 | Phobix | I tried |
| 22:07.29 | Seerah | that, too. |
| 22:07.38 | Seerah | Phobix: then you tried wrong. ;) |
| 22:07.45 | Phobix | well, I just want to do /focus [@mouseover] |
| 22:07.49 | Phobix | ill try now |
| 22:07.58 | Seerah | just do /focus mouseover |
| 22:07.59 | Phobix | well, tonight anyway |
| 22:08.01 | Gnarfoz | (not sure why or how you would Clique to do it, which click would it intercept? the targetting click on the unit in the 3d world? that sounds like a real hack) |
| 22:08.15 | Gnarfoz | +use |
| 22:08.16 | Seerah | wha? |
| 22:08.38 | Seerah | clique only works with unit frames, not in the 3d world |
| 22:08.41 | Gnarfoz | Clique casts stuff by modifying frames' onmousedown attributes |
| 22:08.52 | Phobix | another reason clique was clunky is that I couldnt tell it to jsut apply tyo SUF arena frames |
| 22:08.53 | TC-Work | Sintacks: If all of the usual hardware suspects are good, you might have to look at the unusual ones. |
| 22:09.04 | Sintacks | wat |
| 22:09.06 | Gnarfoz | yeah, so how or why would you make a mouseover macro for the unit "mouseover" with Clique? that seems out of its scope |
| 22:09.07 | Phobix | so it made that for all my frames |
| 22:09.16 | Seerah | Phobix: there is a window you can open to exclude certain frames from Clique |
| 22:09.22 | Phobix | oh ok |
| 22:09.39 | Phobix | well, I remember specifically trying a mouseover and it failed, but will try again |
| 22:09.43 | Gnarfoz | Options -> Frame blacklist |
| 22:09.50 | Gnarfoz | well, again, "a mouseover" |
| 22:09.56 | Phobix | right |
| 22:09.59 | Maldivia | Gnarfoz: more like the type and spell attributes :P |
| 22:09.59 | Gnarfoz | all Clique settings are for "mouseover healing" |
| 22:10.05 | Gnarfoz | Maldivia: yada yada, :) |
| 22:10.20 | Phobix | so how would you do it Gnarfoz? |
| 22:10.29 | Seerah | do what? |
| 22:10.37 | Seerah | I think we're all on 3 tangents |
| 22:10.39 | Gnarfoz | not sure why you would try to employ Clique to interact with the "mouseover" unit (or if it can even do it) |
| 22:10.47 | Phobix | no |
| 22:10.49 | Phobix | the arena frame |
| 22:10.55 | Phobix | I want gladius like behanvior |
| 22:10.58 | Phobix | for SUF |
| 22:11.01 | Seerah | Gnarfoz: because if your mouse is over a unit frame, that unit *is* the mouseover unit |
| 22:11.10 | Phobix | right click to focus |
| 22:11.28 | Seerah | which is tainted all to hell and most UF addons just remove that option |
| 22:11.29 | Gnarfoz | Seerah: ah, of course (although that's not how clique works) |
| 22:11.32 | Sintacks | |05:02:27 pm| @[Seerah] so... what addons do you usually run? |
| 22:11.32 | Sintacks | |05:02:35 pm| [Sintacks] lol |
| 22:11.33 | Sintacks | http://pastebin.com/CZR9qv0Z |
| 22:11.36 | Sintacks | hides. |
| 22:11.47 | Seerah | Gnarfoz: how do you think clique works? |
| 22:11.55 | Gnarfoz | Seerah: <Maldivia> Gnarfoz: more like the type and spell attributes :P <-- |
| 22:12.10 | Phobix | Sintacks: you cant be serious |
| 22:12.13 | Phobix | all those mods? |
| 22:12.21 | Sintacks | lol |
| 22:12.22 | Seerah | that's not so bad |
| 22:12.27 | Sintacks | not all of them are turned on |
| 22:12.38 | Phobix | ok, so will try clique again |
| 22:13.15 | Gnarfoz | iterate through all frames, modify all that are not on the blacklist (since they're secure frames, that's also why changing clique settings in combat won't work)... but maybe I'm utterly wrong and it does some dark voodoo to do it without actually modifying the frames |
| 22:13.40 | Seerah | Sintacks: 1. turn off recount. 2. turn off any addons you don't need for dungeons/raiding |
| 22:13.41 | Maldivia | Gnarfoz: set useparent* and set it on UIParent ? :P |
| 22:13.57 | Sintacks | Seerah, i tried turning off recount. I got 2 fps out of it |
| 22:14.08 | Seerah | try #2 |
| 22:14.21 | Sintacks | i've done that several times over the last 12 months, believe it or not |
| 22:14.26 | Seerah | Use AddonControlPanel (ACP) for profiles |
| 22:14.28 | Gnarfoz | Maldivia: so when will it support kicking low-dps players on-click, via skada/recount? ^^ |
| 22:14.43 | Sintacks | lol |
| 22:15.01 | Phobix | Sintacks: get a better video card =P |
| 22:15.04 | Maldivia | Gnarfoz: well, skade/recount bars are not unit frames, so :P |
| 22:15.10 | Sintacks | i have a 5770 |
| 22:15.15 | Phobix | exactly |
| 22:15.21 | Gnarfoz | Maldivia: pff, details |
| 22:15.25 | Sintacks | and even if i put settings on low, i only get another 4 fps |
| 22:15.36 | Phobix | resolution? |
| 22:15.41 | Gnarfoz | more like, CPU |
| 22:15.47 | Phobix | that too |
| 22:15.51 | Sintacks | 1920x1080 |
| 22:15.52 | Gnarfoz | since when has a better GPU ever done much on WoW |
| 22:15.54 | Gnarfoz | horrible engine ^^ |
| 22:15.57 | Sintacks | ^ |
| 22:16.06 | Gnarfoz | (I hope you have AA turned off?) |
| 22:16.41 | Maldivia | Gnarfoz: but I had a QuickCast mod at a time aswell, and basically just added the attributes to UIParent, and hooked into the various unit-frames by setting the useparent* attribute :P |
| 22:17.07 | Dark_Elf | must be running lots of addons |
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| 22:17.26 | Dark_Elf | quest addons to be exact |
| 22:17.31 | Sintacks | scroll up your buffer for the last link i posted and you'll see addon list |
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| 22:18.55 | Torhal|work | Sintacks: I believe I know your issue. |
| 22:19.10 | Torhal|work | XPerl is held together by paper-clips and bubblegum. |
| 22:19.17 | Sintacks | graphics settings in WoW: |
| 22:19.17 | Sintacks | windowed (full screen), 1920x1080, multisampling 1x, vertical sync enabled, triple buffering enabled, reduce input lag disabled, hardware cursor enabled, DX11, max fps 60 |
| 22:19.24 | Sintacks | Torhal, 90% of Xperl is turned off |
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| 22:20.10 | Gnarfoz | you don't really need to enable max forgeround fps when you have vsnyc enabled |
| 22:20.48 | Sintacks | Torhal, the only xperl modules even turned on are core, options, helper and monitor |
| 22:20.55 | Gnarfoz | also, Full Screen has better performance than Windowed Full Screen, maybe give that a try |
| 22:21.07 | Sintacks | i did. got maybe 2 fps out of it |
| 22:21.20 | Gnarfoz | Sintacks: actually, the core is probably the part that has the problems, hehe |
| 22:21.27 | Sintacks | lol. |
| 22:21.44 | Sintacks | i do know, something in the 4 modules i have running throws a lot of errors about taint during combat, when not even in combat |
| 22:21.47 | Gnarfoz | in any case, did you try addon profiling? |
| 22:22.00 | Dark_Elf | turn off the Prat30HighCPUUsageModules |
| 22:22.30 | Gnarfoz | oh and... you should first try to get your setup to not spew Lua errors before you waste time on juggling settings of all kinds, hoping for salvation |
| 22:22.51 | Sintacks | i have. and afterwords, i did some testing with some of the highest cpu usage addons turned off,a nd only got 4 fps out of having them of |
| 22:23.16 | Gnarfoz | 4fps there, 2fps from fullscreen... add them up ;D |
| 22:23.36 | Sintacks | 6 more fps isn't worth fucking with the way i play |
| 22:24.03 | Gnarfoz | neither of these settings really influence how you play, but that's your choice of course |
| 22:24.13 | Sintacks | the only reason i even have xperl still in my interface folder is a single module... the assist frame in Raid Helper ... |
| 22:24.33 | Gnarfoz | what does it do ;o |
| 22:24.58 | Sintacks | a frame that lists people targeting me, and people assisting me |
| 22:25.45 | Seerah | aren't there other addons that do that? |
| 22:25.51 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:25.52 | Gnarfoz | that's what I was going to say |
| 22:26.00 | Gnarfoz | my tooltip can do that for arbitrary units |
| 22:26.01 | Seerah | there used to be Cirk's Targetz, I know |
| 22:26.13 | Dark_Elf | hopes Sintacks updated Titan today :p |
| 22:26.18 | Sintacks | dont' want that kind of list in a tooltip |
| 22:26.26 | Sintacks | i update everything that's been updated before i log into wow |
| 22:26.26 | Gnarfoz | MagicTargets can do it for everything in combat (but I think it doesn't do players) |
| 22:27.30 | Sintacks | http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/774/targetshit.png |
| 22:29.10 | Sintacks | oddly, that's the only screenshot with it i can find |
| 22:30.34 | Dark_Elf | ugh i use that addon |
| 22:30.44 | Sintacks | what addon? |
| 22:30.51 | Dark_Elf | the one in the pic |
| 22:30.56 | Sintacks | haha |
| 22:31.23 | Sintacks | i love the purpose of it too much to completley get rid of xperl... cuz i haven't found something that does that some where else |
| 22:31.43 | Dark_Elf | thats why i turn xperl off lol |
| 22:32.17 | Dark_Elf | that frame irritates me |
| 22:32.36 | Dark_Elf | always in the way |
| 22:32.43 | Sintacks | i will agree on that... |
| 22:33.23 | Sintacks | is there a /script or something to set chat frame sizes/placement |
| 22:33.48 | Dark_Elf | wish it was smaller and had maybe a gadget at top to colapse it when not in use |
| 22:34.07 | Sintacks | i wish someone would make a standalone with that kind of feartures |
| 22:34.19 | Sintacks | wish i knew enough lua to do it myself |
| 22:34.40 | Dark_Elf | standalone it could be done but... copyright? |
| 22:35.16 | Sintacks | what about copyright |
| 22:35.29 | Gnarfoz | Sintacks: old screenshot: http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/magic_targets.jpg (you could mouseover on that and it would show who's targetting it. the number on the left = how many targetting it) |
| 22:35.30 | Dark_Elf | well it would be stealing. |
| 22:35.45 | Gnarfoz | (le http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9098-MagicTargets.html) |
| 22:35.47 | Dark_Elf | i think it would look good in a broker display though |
| 22:35.53 | karl_w_w | ive never seen a heated debate go on for so long on a forum without it devolving into a locked thread |
| 22:36.13 | Sintacks | Gnarfoz, where am i looking in this screenshot |
| 22:36.18 | Gnarfoz | Sintacks: left, above grid |
| 22:36.24 | karl_w_w | wait yes I have |
| 22:36.30 | Sintacks | the fuck is that |
| 22:36.37 | Gnarfoz | magic targets |
| 22:36.54 | Gnarfoz | Sintacks: number of people targetting, name, raid marker, health bar, health in percent |
| 22:37.01 | Gnarfoz | (all of them of course configurable) |
| 22:37.07 | Gnarfoz | see link, above |
| 22:37.10 | Sintacks | Dark_Elf, you can't copyright an idea. writing a new addon that did the same thing wouldn't violate any copyright |
| 22:37.33 | Gnarfoz | displays a lot more info on less space (albeit it's not exactly what you currently have. just an suggestion. :D) |
| 22:37.36 | Sintacks | that's nothing like what i want, Gnarfoz |
| 22:37.51 | Maldivia | Sintacks: patent it then! |
| 22:37.52 | Gnarfoz | well, I don't really get what benefit what you have gives you |
| 22:38.13 | Gnarfoz | so any suggestion has a good chance of being off-target ;) |
| 22:38.22 | Sintacks | okay, maybe not nothing. it does have numbers of people targeting things, but doesn't show targets on me nor a list of who is targeting |
| 22:38.43 | Sintacks | Maldivia, I was going to say something about patenting, but didn't want to |
| 22:39.09 | Dark_Elf | looks over the xperl copyright |
| 22:39.18 | Sintacks | lol |
| 22:39.38 | Gnarfoz | I guess IRC is moving too fast? ;) I said it can display who those numbers are, if you mouseover... so you could, but it's not really the same as you currently have... What help is "how many people are targetting me" to you? I'm curious |
| 22:39.53 | Sintacks | true, but what i said is correct |
| 22:40.22 | Gnarfoz | Dark_Elf: there is no xperl "copyright"... there's Copyright law in whatever country Xperl was developed in, and there's X-Perl's license... ^^ |
| 22:40.52 | Dark_Elf | well ok copyright-liscence is what i mean |
| 22:41.04 | Gnarfoz | ? license |
| 22:41.06 | Gnarfoz | just license :P |
| 22:41.11 | Sintacks | if chat-cache.txt is a per char file... why does its' settings get saved to every toon... and why can i not overwrite current with a backup... |
| 22:41.11 | Sintacks | aiojsdgasdfo |
| 22:41.24 | Gnarfoz | you can, WoW just can't be running. |
| 22:42.04 | Gnarfoz | also, server-side settings, it's possible you have to turn them off. not sure if they include chat settings these days. |
| 22:42.07 | Seerah | Sintacks: your chat settings get copied from char to char? o.O |
| 22:42.33 | Seerah | every time I make a new character I have to re-do everything. (cause I never think to just copy chat-cache.txt) |
| 22:42.35 | Dark_Elf | GNU General Public License is a free, copyleft license for |
| 22:42.35 | Dark_Elf | software and other kinds of works |
| 22:42.56 | Seerah | Dark_Elf: even if it was ARR, you could still do your own version of the addon. |
| 22:42.56 | Dark_Elf | thats gnu-rific |
| 22:42.58 | Sintacks | maybe they don't, Seerah.. i can't remember |
| 22:43.22 | Sintacks | but i do know that, i tried to replace the changed shit (from when i turned all my addons off) back to the backup, and it just ignored the old chat settings |
| 22:43.38 | Gnarfoz | Sintacks: was wow running when you did it? ^^ |
| 22:43.50 | Seerah | ^^ |
| 22:44.13 | Sintacks | no |
| 22:44.41 | Seerah | then there should have been no problem. what exactly did not get changed? |
| 22:44.50 | Gnarfoz | also, why can't I find the cvars that control server-side storage... my google-fu is weak |
| 22:45.34 | Sintacks | i moved and resized two chat frames |
| 22:45.46 | Gnarfoz | cvar: synchronizeSettings / functions: UploadSettings / DownloadSettings |
| 22:45.47 | Sintacks | both of them were still moved after logging back in after putting the backup back in |
| 22:45.54 | Sintacks | wat |
| 22:46.17 | Seerah | Gnarfoz: syncrhonizeBindings, synchronizeMacros, +2 more |
| 22:46.19 | Gnarfoz | just for if you should ever have the same problem again and want to spend time debugging it |
| 22:46.27 | Gnarfoz | Seerah: yeah, those, ty ^^ |
| 22:46.51 | Gnarfoz | bindings, configs, macros, settings |
| 22:47.04 | Seerah | Sintacks: that should be saved in the layout-local file, no? |
| 22:47.16 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 22:47.16 | Sintacks | maybeh |
| 22:47.25 | Dark_Elf | xperl raid helper |
| 22:47.26 | Sintacks | even still, i backed up the whole WTF folder |
| 22:47.35 | Sintacks | aren't talking about xperl anymore, Dark_Elf |
| 22:47.43 | Dark_Elf | ok |
| 22:48.30 | Seerah | nvm, I see position and size in chat-cache.txt |
| 22:50.02 | Sintacks | so, in theory, if i close wow and edit that file manaully, i can get shit exacty how i want it |
| 22:50.14 | Seerah | yes |
| 22:50.24 | Seerah | this is how UI compilations do it |
| 22:54.00 | Sintacks | only problem with that is, tryign to figure out what is "perfect" |
| 22:55.24 | Seerah | ? |
| 22:55.34 | Sintacks | i have 3 chat frames |
| 22:55.51 | Sintacks | i want them all 3 pixel perfect sizes and placements |
| 22:55.56 | Sintacks | i had them "close enough" |
| 22:55.58 | Sintacks | for a long time |
| 23:03.18 | Sintacks | i wonder if i'd get more fps out of cross fire'd 5770s |
| 23:03.55 | Arrowmaster | its impossible to do pixel perfect placement in wow because of how the system works |
| 23:04.11 | Sintacks | i got what i wanted |
| 23:04.27 | Arrowmaster | you can get damn close but its never going to be completely pixel perfect |
| 23:04.32 | Sintacks | and it might not be "pixel perfect" but it's "perfect" in the way i want it |
| 23:04.39 | Sintacks | also, chat frames fixed. |
| 23:04.51 | TC-Work | heh http://gizmodo.com/5876881/iran-is-selling-rainbow-toy-copies-of-americas-captured-drone |
| 23:05.33 | Seerah | hehe |
| 23:07.07 | Sintacks | if i cross fire my second 5770, my brother isnt' going to have a graphics card... |
| 23:07.22 | Sintacks | or i'll have to give him the 5350 fanless that isn't being used... |
| 23:07.28 | Dark_Elf | vid cards are damn cheap now days |
| 23:07.42 | TC-Work | http://acko.net/ that is a rather nifty and well done site |
| 23:07.43 | Sintacks | damn cheap is still expensive as hell when you don't have a job |
| 23:08.01 | Arrowmaster | so true |
| 23:08.35 | Dark_Elf | oh its true, its damn true |
| 23:08.38 | Sintacks | Message: ...s\libs\LibBattlegrounds-2.0\LibBattlegrounds-2.0.lua line 264: |
| 23:08.38 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:08.50 | Sintacks | I don't even know what addon that's embedded in so i can turn it off |
| 23:08.59 | Dark_Elf | swatter dont tell? |
| 23:09.07 | Sintacks | it cuts it off |
| 23:09.14 | Sintacks | that was from swatter |
| 23:09.15 | Dark_Elf | install buggrabber |
| 23:09.21 | Sintacks | fuck buggrabber |
| 23:09.24 | Dark_Elf | lol |
| 23:09.33 | Sintacks | i went ape shit when someone tried to embed that into another addon |
| 23:09.36 | Sintacks | i forgot which addon |
| 23:09.44 | Sintacks | and i wasn't the only person who went ape shit on the author |
| 23:10.03 | Sintacks | Message: Note: AddOn PowerAuras attempted to call a protected function (CompactRaidFrameManagerContainerResizeFrame:Hide()) during combat lockdown. |
| 23:10.08 | Dark_Elf | do a search on the addons foler for libbattlegrounds that will tell the addon |
| 23:10.27 | Sintacks | what the hell would PowerAuras even be doing with CompactRaidFrameManager |
| 23:10.29 | Therzok | ~framexml |
| 23:10.29 | purl | [framexml] Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 23:10.42 | Sintacks | nice script, Therzok |
| 23:12.08 | Dark_Elf | if they throw errors that probably where the low fps is |
| 23:12.31 | Sintacks | it's not even doing it during combat |
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| 23:24.45 | Sintacks | heh. RaidFinderIsWorse uses a shit load of cpu |
| 23:39.06 | foxlit | TC-Work: surely you're joking |
| 23:44.29 | Dark_Elf | interesting |
| 23:45.04 | TC-Work | foxlit: about what? |
| 23:45.20 | foxlit | "nifty and well done" |
| 23:45.57 | TC-Work | damn right |
| 23:49.13 | Dark_Elf | all that for the color red |
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