| 00:03.36 | Ackis | https://twitter.com/#!/notch/status/151806809898885120 |
| 00:04.08 | Mikk | Halp. Addon that announces what killed someone? |
| 00:04.18 | Mikk | Got the name on the tip of my tongue |
| 00:04.21 | Mikk | Something greek? |
| 00:04.36 | Ackis | grim reaper |
| 00:06.29 | Mikk | it announces also? |
| 00:08.30 | Ackis | not sure tbh |
| 00:10.19 | Mikk | bit silly to have multiple addons tracking it though |
| 00:10.30 | Mikk | i mean Skada / Recount are already parsing and recording these things |
| 00:11.36 | nevcairiel | I used to use Acheron for the task, none of the dps meters could really show the full details |
| 00:12.06 | nevcairiel | They are meant to store aggregated data, not individual combatlog lines |
| 00:13.19 | Mikk | But they DO store them |
| 00:13.36 | nevcairiel | what the hell for |
| 00:13.41 | Mikk | Good question but they do |
| 00:14.40 | Maldivia | Ackis: I'm starting to wonder if ocean stratagy still thinks "there's no such thing as bad publicity" :P |
| 00:14.58 | zenzelezz | of course |
| 00:15.08 | Mikk | that guy is psychotic |
| 00:15.08 | zenzelezz | now everyone's aware of their business, and people are gullible |
| 00:15.15 | Mikk | he thinks he knows everyone and can't fail |
| 00:15.24 | Mikk | grandiose exaggerated view of himself |
| 00:15.33 | Maldivia | Mikk: well, apparently, he didn't know gave :P |
| 00:15.35 | Maldivia | gabe* |
| 00:16.25 | zenzelezz | for some reason the Ocean Strategy thing made me think of good old http://www.27bslash6.com/p2p2.html |
| 00:16.48 | Maldivia | zenzelezz: no no, it's stratagy :P |
| 00:16.59 | zenzelezz | oh, my bad |
| 00:18.03 | Mikk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy#PCL-R_items <- Read "Factor 1" checklist |
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| 00:18.22 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 00:18.45 | Maldivia | sounds about right |
| 00:27.38 | Dagmar | Oh lord |
| 00:27.46 | Dagmar | I completely missed all that drama today what with work |
| 00:27.52 | Dagmar | reads, grinning |
| 00:28.40 | Mikk | it's awesome |
| 00:28.55 | Mikk | watching assholes getting flattened feels so ... rewarding? |
| 00:29.25 | Maldivia | nothing like a good spanking...? |
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| 00:36.17 | Dagmar | Hooo boy I imagine Ocean's site is a bit swamped right now. heh |
| 00:36.25 | bluspacecow | ? |
| 00:37.07 | mckenziemc | hey blu |
| 00:38.26 | bluspacecow | which ocean ? |
| 00:38.50 | Dagmar | Ocean Marketing |
| 00:39.02 | Dagmar | ...and wow the carnage doesn't _even_ stop there |
| 00:39.13 | Dagmar | Kotaku has a great piece on it |
| 00:39.39 | Dagmar | Future classes given to newbie PR people will mention this incident as a cautionary tale |
| 00:39.44 | bluspacecow | http://www.bigshinyrobot.com/reviews/archives/35246 |
| 00:39.49 | bluspacecow | dat one ? |
| 00:40.06 | Maldivia | yep |
| 00:40.07 | Dagmar | http://kotaku.com/5871400/cut-paul-oceanmarketting-christoforo-a-breakhe-probably-just-has-roid-rage <-- this one |
| 00:40.47 | Dagmar | it's time for him to check into a detox clinic and see a lawyer about a legal name change, I think |
| 00:41.31 | Dagmar | I can't believe the guy had the cojones to try pretending to be someone else |
| 00:42.20 | Dagmar | Stick a fork in him because he's _done_ |
| 00:43.28 | bluspacecow | *noms on him* |
| 00:44.01 | Dagmar | With any luck no one's even going to have time to notice the little SWTOR oopsie |
| 00:44.17 | mckenziemc | ? |
| 00:44.43 | Dagmar | https://www.google.com/search?pq=elle+cee+bbc&hl=en&ds=yt&cp=6&gs_id=n&xhr=t&q=swtor.com&tok=Kri0sFdS2l-6VRk5ieg4Tg&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&tbm=vid&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=swtor.&aq=0&aqi=g3g-C1&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1599&bih=812#q=swtor.com&hl=en&source=lnms&ei=jDn6ToOJMYnqtgfb8aXMBw&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CDgQ_AUoAA&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=98d9d1e7c530a7a6&biw=1599&bih=812 |
| 00:44.52 | Dagmar | Argh,. try http://kotaku.com/5871415/adventure-pornography-a-jedi-cares-not-for-these-things |
| 00:45.07 | Dagmar | there's a link to the search in question there, and it's definitely from some kinda porno |
| 00:45.30 | nevcairiel | you really have to wonder where google pulled that image from |
| 00:45.32 | Dagmar | I have *no* idea what might cause that thumbnail to get screwed up, but people at Google are probably trying to peel their eyebrows off the ceiling |
| 00:45.48 | bluspacecow | could be worse |
| 00:45.49 | Dagmar | *Usually* it just gets snatched as a frame from the video |
| 00:46.01 | bluspacecow | they could be going "why that's brenda from marketing" |
| 00:46.26 | Dagmar | If it was it would be pretty hilarious if someone stuck it in the video |
| 00:46.48 | nevcairiel | just one hidden frame somewhere, and google finds it? :d |
| 00:46.57 | Dagmar | There's ways to shove a frame into a video file that the video will skip but YouTube's (old, for this reason exactly) thumbnailer would hit on very precisely |
| 00:47.14 | Dagmar | Some folks were harassing YouTube with posts that took avantage of that awhile back |
| 00:47.29 | nevcairiel | is that how people get youtube to show completely unrelated thumbnails |
| 00:47.33 | Dagmar | Videos that were 99% porno, but had childrens videos and so forth in key places |
| 00:47.34 | Dagmar | Ys. |
| 00:47.35 | nevcairiel | so they click on the video |
| 00:47.55 | Dagmar | o/~ Never gon-na.... yep |
| 00:48.22 | Dagmar | To my knowledge, YouTube now randomizes a bit which frame it grabs |
| 00:48.39 | nevcairiel | i've still seen it not that long ago |
| 00:49.00 | Dagmar | I've not come across any of the planted porno in awhile |
| 00:49.20 | Dagmar | Plenty of sketch blogger girls using it to show misleading cleavage snaps |
| 00:49.41 | nevcairiel | there must be a tool to do it, they would never figure it out =p |
| 00:50.02 | Dagmar | Nah, just upload a few time-coded videos and look at the thumbnails |
| 00:51.46 | Dagmar | I'm tempted to download their video, dump it, and look for large changes between frames, but if I actually *found* the porno shot in there it would be at least a week before I stopped laughing |
| 00:52.26 | nevcairiel | would be pretty easy to just dump every frame into a scaled down jpg or something |
| 00:52.32 | Dagmar | It looks like a pro porno shot, but it might actually *be* "Brenda from marketing" and that would be too funny |
| 00:52.52 | Dagmar | Yeah but it's tedious to scribble up code to compare the frames |
| 00:53.14 | nevcairiel | if you dumped all frames, that one should stick out in a thumbnail overview |
| 00:53.59 | Dagmar | Yeah, and that's four minutes long |
| 00:54.24 | Dagmar | Seven thousand or so thumbnails. Yech |
| 00:54.48 | Dagmar | Plus, the uncontrollable laughter knowing someone's divorce trial just got a lot more interesting |
| 00:55.26 | nevcairiel | at least they are not protection their file much |
| 00:55.35 | nevcairiel | link was directly in the code |
| 00:55.36 | nevcairiel | :d |
| 00:56.04 | Dagmar | Yeah for some reason people never try to protect their PR dumps with oodles of DRM. |
| 00:56.06 | Dagmar | Go figure. |
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| 01:00.01 | nevcairiel | there is really alot of frames in such a short movie |
| 01:00.24 | mckenziemc | i didn't know you could make alots out of frames |
| 01:02.27 | nevcairiel | 14606 images |
| 01:02.31 | nevcairiel | and no porn. :p |
| 01:02.57 | nevcairiel | if it was in there for some reason, they removed it. If it wasn't, google messed up |
| 01:03.15 | Dagmar | wow so it was 60 fps then? |
| 01:04.10 | nevcairiel | 30 |
| 01:04.16 | nevcairiel | its 8 minutes roughly |
| 01:04.28 | nevcairiel | lua> 8*60*30 |
| 01:04.29 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 14400 |
| 01:04.29 | Dagmar | Okay so that's good since the thumbnail in Google shows 4m06s |
| 01:04.51 | Dagmar | So it's possible they had something really weird happen that will get them all excited |
| 01:08.09 | nevcairiel | sometimes i hate amazon. One time you look for some weird present for your sister, and now it keeps sending me recommendations for some odd category i usually never buy from, gah |
| 01:08.32 | Dagmar | It's better when you look up euphemisms for dildos |
| 01:08.32 | foxlit | unsubscrube from all the things |
| 01:08.45 | Dagmar | Then the ads just follow you around everywhere |
| 01:09.03 | nevcairiel | foxlit: sometimes i like those mails for the stuff i do browse regularly =/ |
| 01:10.05 | airtonix | hey bluspacecow |
| 01:10.16 | airtonix | ubrendon? |
| 01:10.21 | nevcairiel | anyhow, time for sleep |
| 01:13.30 | airtonix | anyway Dagmar, brendon, i mean paul... it's sad. because he isn't unique. |
| 01:13.44 | airtonix | in fact |
| 01:14.03 | airtonix | he without my guidance people i know could have ended up like him. |
| 01:15.20 | airtonix | although one chap... "The internet is robbery. a Blackmarket." |
| 01:15.38 | airtonix | he says that with glee in his eyes |
| 01:22.10 | Fisker | porn nevcairiel |
| 01:23.56 | karl_w_w | im getting beyond pissed off with twitter hiding all the content when the page finishes loading |
| 01:24.16 | mckenziemc | ? |
| 01:24.42 | Dagmar | H0h0hh0h0! |
| 01:25.09 | Dagmar | GameStop has apparently yanked the listing for the controller adapter |
| 01:25.52 | Dagmar | http://twitter.com/#!/OceanStratagy/status/141695759409090560 *rofl* follow the link |
| 01:29.27 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqV9kx40RG0 |
| 01:29.29 | karl_w_w | lolol |
| 01:30.17 | Dagmar | Cor he might actually get sued |
| 01:32.06 | Maldivia | karl_w_w: lol... |
| 01:34.36 | kd3 | eesh. p-a's site is struggling under the load |
| 01:35.28 | Dagmar | Cuz now gamers who have day jobs are coming home and catching up |
| 01:39.09 | karl_w_w | im surprised it didnt go down earlier :P |
| 01:39.25 | karl_w_w | although i did get 1 connection reset about 10 hours ago |
| 01:39.35 | karl_w_w | 8 hours* |
| 01:40.38 | Dagmar | Perhaps... too *much* PR actually _is a bad thing_ |
| 01:40.58 | Dagmar | I see Slashdot adds an interesting plagiarism angle to the story of Mr. PC |
| 01:43.44 | kd3 | you mean how basically the entire site is copypasta from elsewhere? |
| 01:43.47 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 01:43.55 | kd3 | http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/nsgj4/everything_on_oceanmarketings_website_is/ |
| 01:44.05 | kd3 | aw, the op removed the post |
| 01:44.33 | karl_w_w | there is one |
| 01:45.41 | karl_w_w | gradually attempts to find it |
| 01:47.46 | karl_w_w | there it is: http://www.amazon.com/forum/video%20games?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1T1DM93QU4XL1&cdThread=Tx2UFU8473E0EBF |
| 01:48.42 | Maldivia | kd3: the Google Docs is still there - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnMPztotGCGadE1sQkV4aDlOVWRFTGtkS1VzUldHRnc#gid=0 |
| 01:49.47 | karl_w_w | oh RT = retweet |
| 01:49.51 | karl_w_w | just worked it out |
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| 01:50.03 | karl_w_w | im not up with the terms these kids use today |
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| 02:18.07 | airtonix | karl_w_w: internet = tubes |
| 02:18.22 | airtonix | karl_w_w: keyboard = thing you make letters with |
| 02:18.50 | airtonix | karl_w_w: potatoe soup = i think you know what this means |
| 02:18.59 | karl_w_w | airtonix uhelly of my thing you make letters with? |
| 02:19.12 | karl_w_w | s/uh/uj/ |
| 02:19.16 | airtonix | umad? |
| 02:19.28 | airtonix | maybe you need some estrogen |
| 02:19.42 | airtonix | twenty milligrams should do you |
| 02:20.01 | karl_w_w | I wwebsite as on estrogen |
| 02:25.27 | airtonix | do you have connections? |
| 02:34.14 | karl_w_w | I know the yellow power ranger and richard nixon |
| 02:35.22 | mckenziemc1 | but do you know the muffin man? |
| 02:40.23 | Wobin | The muffin man? |
| 02:41.32 | Cairenn | That lives on Drury Lane |
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| 03:13.20 | airtonix | lol'd : http://i.imgur.com/0MQjR.jpg |
| 03:21.35 | Kraps | STEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM |
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| 03:47.06 | airtonix | oh dear me |
| 03:47.10 | airtonix | today was a good day |
| 03:53.38 | Mr_Rabies | i guess scandinavians are easy to give nightmares to :( |
| 03:53.41 | Mr_Rabies | derp |
| 03:53.44 | Mr_Rabies | wrong channel lol |
| 03:53.53 | Mr_Rabies | and no, i won't give you context |
| 03:54.09 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 04:15.10 | airtonix | Mr_Rabies: i will wwebsite you |
| 04:15.31 | Mr_Rabies | i know the emperor of boston |
| 04:27.55 | airtonix | Mr_Rabies: do you use lycos as well? |
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| 05:50.29 | BlackNet | any way to tell, in lua, if your in lfr or normal/heroic? |
| 05:51.01 | pompy | !api difficulty |
| 05:51.02 | lua_bot | Found 15 possible matches for 'difficulty'. Please be more specific or check Google search results: http://is.gd/O6LG29 |
| 05:51.12 | pompy | !api getraiddifficulty |
| 05:51.14 | lua_bot | GetRaidDifficulty: This function is not yet documented (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetRaidDifficulty) |
| 05:53.11 | BlackNet | hmm |
| 05:54.08 | pompy | BlackNet: its GetInstanceDifficulty() |
| 05:54.24 | BlackNet | k lemme look tha tone up |
| 05:54.26 | pompy | my friend is in normal lfr 25 and it put 2 for him which is that |
| 05:54.38 | pompy | !api getinstancedifficulty |
| 05:54.38 | lua_bot | GetInstanceDifficulty: Returns difficulty setting for the current dungeon/raid instance (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInstanceDifficulty) |
| 05:54.42 | pompy | BlackNet: ^ |
| 05:55.30 | BlackNet | but 25normal vs 25 lfr :) |
| 05:56.26 | BlackNet | that is the question |
| 05:58.02 | BlackNet | everything i have read said there is nothing that shows if it's lfr or normal |
| 06:00.55 | karl_w_w | if GetLocale() then <- sigh |
| 06:01.17 | Cide | what does GetLootMethod() return? |
| 06:01.41 | BlackNet | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetLootMethod |
| 06:01.44 | karl_w_w | raidachievement's code is horrible to look at |
| 06:01.50 | Cide | ... |
| 06:01.58 | Cide | I'm not retarded |
| 06:02.13 | Cide | I'm asking if it's up to date w.r.t. LFR instances given that it uses a modified NBG method |
| 06:02.21 | BlackNet | but if you do a 25m normal or 10h and have greed before need that would throw the same as LFR |
| 06:02.34 | Cide | have you tested that or just guessing |
| 06:02.35 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 06:02.40 | mckenziemc | greed before need |
| 06:02.50 | BlackNet | :) |
| 06:03.22 | BlackNet | oh |
| 06:03.33 | BlackNet | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsListedInLFR |
| 06:03.35 | BlackNet | this might work |
| 06:05.03 | karl_w_w | i doubt it |
| 06:05.23 | karl_w_w | that's the old lfr system |
| 06:05.37 | karl_w_w | im queued in raid finder right now and it's showing false |
| 06:06.18 | BlackNet | GetLFGInfoServer |
| 06:06.19 | BlackNet | ? |
| 06:06.27 | karl_w_w | anywho, raidachievement recently found a way to differentiate, so if you want to sift through it's almost unintelligible code to find out how be my guest :P |
| 06:06.41 | BlackNet | k cool, lemme grab that |
| 06:07.11 | BlackNet | gotta be an easy way to tell |
| 06:07.51 | mckenziemc | check for party members from a different server :) |
| 06:07.57 | mckenziemc | raid* |
| 06:08.23 | karl_w_w | [14:06:54] Dump: value=GetLFGInfoServer() [14:06:54] [1]=false, [14:06:54] [2]=true, [14:06:54] [3]=true, [14:06:54] [4]=false, [14:06:54] [5]=false, [14:06:54] [6]="", [14:06:54] [7]=1, [14:06:54] [8]=true, [14:06:54] [9]=0, [14:06:54] [10]=0, [14:06:54] [11]=0 |
| 06:08.28 | karl_w_w | while queued |
| 06:09.13 | karl_w_w | mckenziemc: that'll only work if it's not possible to make a raid with people over real ID |
| 06:09.22 | karl_w_w | still meaning to test that |
| 06:09.41 | mckenziemc | you can with a party iirc |
| 06:09.55 | mckenziemc | not not a group larger than that |
| 06:10.08 | mckenziemc | but not* |
| 06:10.09 | BlackNet | hmmm |
| 06:10.10 | BlackNet | if IsPartyLFG() and IsInLFGDungeon() and difficulty == 2 and instanceType == "raid" and maxPlayers == 25 then |
| 06:10.10 | BlackNet | lfrenable=1 |
| 06:10.57 | BlackNet | well i should have put the line before |
| 06:10.58 | BlackNet | local _, instanceType, difficulty, _, maxPlayers, playerDifficulty, isDynamicInstance = GetInstanceInfo() |
| 06:15.25 | BlackNet | guess i hve to q up and do some testing |
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| 06:23.54 | BlackNet | yup it works |
| 06:25.02 | mckenziemc | BlackNet: what does GetLootMethod return? |
| 06:25.09 | BlackNet | i bailed |
| 06:25.23 | BlackNet | q up as a healer = instant ;) |
| 06:26.24 | BlackNet | lemme try my other account |
| 06:26.55 | mckenziemc | i need to make a macro for somebody to use in a lfr group too to see what pool of servers it uses |
| 06:27.18 | BlackNet | crap, other toon is not elgible |
| 06:27.32 | mckenziemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:27.46 | BlackNet | yup |
| 06:27.53 | mckenziemc | lua> strjoin |
| 06:27.53 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: function: 0x90b5648 |
| 06:27.55 | BlackNet | the above line i posted returns true |
| 06:28.21 | BlackNet | trying 25 normal now |
| 06:29.13 | BlackNet | false on 25n |
| 06:29.51 | BlackNet | trying 25h |
| 06:30.07 | BlackNet | false as well |
| 06:31.38 | BlackNet | so really it's the first 2 functions that makes the difference |
| 06:34.10 | Cide | (7:25:07 AM) mckenziemc: BlackNet: what does GetLootMethod return? |
| 06:34.16 | Cide | (7:01:21 AM) Cide: what does GetLootMethod() return? |
| 06:34.38 | mckenziemc | i was asking on your behalf |
| 06:34.46 | mckenziemc | reminding* |
| 06:34.54 | Cide | I don't care |
| 06:35.08 | mckenziemc | then why did you post |
| 06:35.09 | Cide | or I never cared rather |
| 06:35.16 | Cide | I was just giving him an idea to test |
| 06:35.20 | Cide | but he already solved it |
| 06:35.20 | BlackNet | it should return needbeforegreed |
| 06:35.33 | Cide | lies |
| 06:35.37 | mckenziemc | i was asking so it could be added to wowprogramming |
| 06:35.39 | Cide | it returns what it returns |
| 06:35.56 | Cide | it "should" return something else so the two loot methods can be distinguished |
| 06:36.10 | BlackNet | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetLootMethod |
| 06:36.11 | BlackNet | that |
| 06:36.30 | mckenziemc | i think you mean wowpedia.org/API_GetLootMethod |
| 06:36.46 | mckenziemc | :P |
| 06:36.48 | BlackNet | could prob just call IsInLFGDungeon() |
| 06:38.16 | BlackNet | and according to this that one is true/false |
| 06:40.36 | mckenziemc | in a 25 man raid do the unit ids go up to raid24 (ie. player not included) or raid25 |
| 06:41.20 | Arrowmaster | 25 |
| 06:41.28 | BlackNet | well in elvui it shows raid625 |
| 06:41.32 | BlackNet | so i would have to say 25 |
| 06:41.49 | BlackNet | then raid2640 |
| 06:42.17 | mckenziemc | and the player doesn't always have the same number right? |
| 06:42.36 | BlackNet | could change |
| 06:43.38 | mckenziemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:44.18 | mckenziemc | i still haven't figured out if LFR is region-wide or datacenter, so if anyone happens to be in a LFR sometime, i'd appreciate it if you ran that and got a screenshot |
| 06:44.37 | BlackNet | there is a server function and a local function for that |
| 06:44.41 | BlackNet | dunno what it shows and all |
| 06:44.54 | mckenziemc | huh? |
| 06:45.19 | BlackNet | seen a lfr serverinfo |
| 06:47.20 | BlackNet | basically this http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/yorsahj |
| 06:47.30 | BlackNet | you set normal, heroic lfr |
| 06:47.41 | BlackNet | and it does raid warnigns on the ooze boss. |
| 06:48.04 | BlackNet | but since we know what diffculty level it is there's really no need for the user to set that as it can figure it out |
| 06:48.48 | karl_w_w | ok seriously, does the lfr loot system actually deliberately give loot to the lowest dps? |
| 06:49.12 | BlackNet | probably |
| 06:49.23 | BlackNet | since typicaly the lowest dps will have the worst gear |
| 06:49.33 | BlackNet | i can see that being a factor in the role |
| 06:49.35 | BlackNet | er roll |
| 06:50.56 | BlackNet | ok so i hook to event ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA and run the function, set the difficulty and go from there. game over. |
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| 07:47.11 | Shirik | Cide: ping |
| 07:48.48 | Shirik | also |
| 07:48.51 | Shirik | I'm back, baby! |
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| 08:44.07 | TMc51 | anybody know of any decent streaming media devices or anything like that under $100? |
| 08:49.02 | pompy | TMc51: http://www.amazon.com/Roku-2-HD-Streaming-Player/dp/B005DOUJL8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1325062096&sr=8-3 |
| 08:49.40 | Mr_Rabies | what are you wanting to stream TMc51? |
| 08:49.50 | pompy | http://www.amazon.com/Roku-XS-1080p-Streaming-Player/dp/B005CLPP84/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1325062096&sr=8-2 |
| 08:50.48 | Mr_Rabies | if it's anything except for 10-bit h264 this is pretty much the best bang-for-your-buck: http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Streaming-Media-Player/dp/B005KOZNBW |
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| 09:05.50 | TMc51 | Thanks. I'll definitely check them out. Just got a new 42" that's going into my room once I clean it out and get it painted. |
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| 09:32.16 | karl_w_w | when you're formatting a drive should you specify the smallest cluster size that will reach your disc's capacity? or does it not really matter? |
| 09:33.53 | clever | i believe that if you use too small of a cluster size, it will fragment easily |
| 09:34.27 | clever | larger clusters, larget fragments, so better performance when fragmented |
| 09:34.57 | clever | but if you go too large, you begin to waste space, 64kb clusters means every 200 byte file eats 64kb |
| 09:39.54 | karl_w_w | yeah if the clusters are too small the fat is huge |
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| 09:41.15 | karl_w_w | i may as well go with huge clusters cos i wont have many small files on there |
| 09:41.33 | karl_w_w | and the disk will basically never get defragged |
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| 10:09.58 | mckenziemc1 | !api RunBinding |
| 10:09.59 | lua_bot | RunBinding: Runs the script associated with a key binding action (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/RunBinding) |
| 10:24.28 | karl_w_w | gives website feedback, forgets to include browser used or even test on another browser, facepalms |
| 10:28.37 | karl_w_w | jnwhiteh: seeing as (I think) curse doesn't notify you when you get a comment on a ticket -> http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/captainslog/tickets/2-wider-than-the-screen/ |
| 10:31.57 | nevcairiel | for the record, unified diffs are so much easier to read (diff -u) |
| 10:50.08 | karl_w_w | weeeeeell |
| 10:51.08 | karl_w_w | i would say marginally |
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| 11:10.52 | Adys | karl_w_w: diff -u is a *lot* easier to read |
| 11:11.20 | Adys | i dont even know why the other formats still exist |
| 11:11.31 | Adys | and why it hasn't changed the default |
| 11:11.33 | Adys | fuck bwc |
| 11:13.02 | karl_w_w | maybe you're just used to it |
| 11:13.23 | karl_w_w | i dont look at many diffs, and i dont find one particularly easier than another |
| 11:14.36 | airtonix | hello iinternet |
| 11:16.20 | airtonix | anyone else here trying out cyanogenmod 9 ? |
| 11:17.07 | airtonix | build10 for samsung galaxy i9000 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363593 |
| 11:17.37 | Kalroth | hi airtonikz how u feel |
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| 11:36.11 | airtonix | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza#Italian_and_European_law |
| 11:36.16 | airtonix | lol |
| 11:38.19 | Adys | god |
| 11:38.26 | Adys | almost all the images on that page look disgusting |
| 11:42.19 | Kalroth | you're weird |
| 11:42.43 | Adys | up yours |
| 11:42.47 | Adys | and merry christmas btw |
| 11:42.49 | Kalroth | no u |
| 11:43.18 | Adys | how about up both of ours then? |
| 11:43.48 | Kalroth | butt on butt |
| 11:48.47 | karl_w_w | it should be illegal to make an ac adapter that is wider than the usual width of a plug |
| 11:49.36 | Adys | pretty sure there are european standards about that |
| 11:50.54 | Kalroth | yes there is and ... http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/ns09q/denmark_is_the_clear_winner/ |
| 11:52.19 | karl_w_w | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/Whiteclampie.jpg now there is a fuck-ugly pizza |
| 11:52.32 | Adys | Kalroth: what the fuck is this italian thing |
| 11:54.02 | karl_w_w | Adys: the middle pin is ground |
| 11:54.10 | Adys | im not an idiot |
| 11:54.14 | Kalroth | weeeeeeeell |
| 11:54.22 | karl_w_w | well it seems like an odd question :P |
| 11:54.39 | Adys | the europlug is standard across almost all of the EU |
| 11:54.40 | karl_w_w | it doesnt matter which is live and neutral, other than for safety concerns |
| 11:54.52 | Adys | ive never seen this type of plug before |
| 11:57.23 | karl_w_w | i dont understand the europlug, doesnt it have ground? |
| 11:57.29 | Adys | it does |
| 11:57.51 | Adys | well, in a couple of countries it doesn't, it's optional |
| 11:58.16 | Adys | but if you look at the last three plugs on the right of the middle image |
| 11:59.14 | Adys | french-style europlug is a regular male ground, on the german-style one the ground is on the upper and lower part of the plug |
| 11:59.27 | Kalroth | our mouth is ground, but it isn't required to use |
| 12:00.04 | karl_w_w | i've used the british, chinese/australian, US, and french ones and british puts them all to shame :P |
| 12:00.07 | Adys | most cables in europe support have both a top/down ground and a female ground |
| 12:00.57 | Adys | and yeah i really like the french-style socket |
| 12:01.07 | Kalroth | you would |
| 12:01.19 | Adys | don't be daft, i barely like french food |
| 12:01.47 | Kalroth | i like the israeli socket, it reminds me of predator |
| 12:02.04 | Adys | also Kalroth |
| 12:02.12 | Adys | is that danish socket compatible with europlug? |
| 12:02.42 | Kalroth | yes monsieur adys, if the plug doesn't have ground |
| 12:03.33 | Adys | that reddit thread |
| 12:03.55 | Kalroth | eg. like the german or russian |
| 12:03.58 | Adys | some guy's proudly shouting how north america has a standardized plug throughout the "entire continent" |
| 12:04.25 | karl_w_w | well it's true, isn't it? :P |
| 12:04.51 | Kalroth | yeah, one goverment managed to standardlize something |
| 12:04.53 | Kalroth | amazing!! |
| 12:04.56 | Adys | its also because its one country |
| 12:05.17 | Adys | Kalroth: be fair, knowing the US, they couldve had different plug standards for each state. |
| 12:06.32 | karl_w_w | 3 countries |
| 12:06.58 | Adys | color me impressed, now lets count the countries that support the europlug |
| 12:07.04 | karl_w_w | :P |
| 12:07.36 | Adys | also does canada really have us-style sockets? |
| 12:08.27 | Kalroth | the angry sockets |
| 12:09.11 | Kalroth | seems like it, yeah |
| 12:09.35 | Kalroth | http://www.eurocom.ca/support/plugs.htm |
| 12:10.01 | Kalroth | fucking brits being worse than the americants |
| 12:10.35 | nevcairiel | they share a plug with china, at least there is alot of people using it =p |
| 12:10.46 | karl_w_w | its the best plug |
| 12:10.55 | Adys | nevcairiel: you serious? Oo |
| 12:10.59 | Adys | i had no idea |
| 12:11.00 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 12:11.04 | Kalroth | yeah, they do |
| 12:11.08 | karl_w_w | its easy to plug in in the dark/at an awkward angle, and it holds |
| 12:11.09 | nevcairiel | the brits, yea |
| 12:11.35 | Adys | i really like the british power outlets for a couple of reasons |
| 12:11.37 | Kalroth | i still prefer the danish socket, its so happy |
| 12:11.54 | Kalroth | "heey there, going to plug that in me? awesome!" |
| 12:12.22 | Kalroth | "lets power that dildo battery recharger!!" |
| 12:12.30 | Adys | the british power sockets feel very solid and cables strongly attach to it, they also have builtin switches |
| 12:12.33 | nevcairiel | the power outlet is the only thing ever going to say that to you, though |
| 12:13.03 | Kalroth | oi kraut, who put a coin in you?! |
| 12:13.05 | karl_w_w | australian is the worst, the pins fucking bend so easily and the plugs wiggle out, and it doesnt help that the sockets seem to be built out of the shittest plastic imaginable |
| 12:13.31 | nevcairiel | Adys: i dunno, cables seem to attach pretty solid to our sockets here too |
| 12:13.34 | Adys | nevcairiel: i heard once Kalroth thought the outlet was so happy, he tried to plug something else in. |
| 12:13.40 | Adys | nevcairiel: germany? |
| 12:13.40 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 12:13.51 | nevcairiel | granted, we never have switches in them, but i guess thats just a matter of not doing it =p |
| 12:13.52 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 12:14.09 | Adys | yeah i love the german outlets too |
| 12:14.17 | nevcairiel | isnt that euro plug |
| 12:14.25 | Kalroth | adys loves nevs sockets |
| 12:14.27 | Adys | yeah |
| 12:14.30 | nevcairiel | oh wait, euro is the small one |
| 12:14.31 | Adys | damn it |
| 12:14.34 | nevcairiel | that one sucks |
| 12:14.39 | Adys | nevcairiel: huh? no |
| 12:14.51 | nevcairiel | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europlug |
| 12:14.52 | Adys | german is the german-style europlug :P |
| 12:15.03 | Kalroth | no, the euro standard is the 2 pins that fits in most sockets here |
| 12:15.04 | Kalroth | yeah |
| 12:15.08 | Kalroth | what you just linked |
| 12:15.18 | Kalroth | ungrounded and comes flat or round |
| 12:15.32 | Adys | basically the europlug doesnt specify anything about ground |
| 12:15.45 | Adys | just that these two pins should be there like this |
| 12:15.46 | nevcairiel | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Schuko_plug_and_socket.png |
| 12:15.50 | nevcairiel | thats our typical german plug |
| 12:15.53 | Kalroth | it fits in danish, german, korean, russian and french sockets |
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| 12:16.03 | Kalroth | yeah |
| 12:16.13 | nevcairiel | grounding on top/bottom |
| 12:16.15 | nevcairiel | and bigger plug |
| 12:16.22 | Adys | http://www.biztrademarket.com/User/167027/bb/hl-5b_angle_plug_dqy.jpg |
| 12:16.29 | Adys | thats the standard cable in europe |
| 12:16.42 | Adys | female ground and german ground |
| 12:16.52 | Kalroth | ayup, we use these here too - we just ignore the ground :) |
| 12:17.25 | nevcairiel | oh right french have a big pin in the socket for the grounding |
| 12:17.39 | Adys | nevcairiel: see http://imgur.com/GHP5Y |
| 12:17.58 | Adys | i really don't know whether i prefer french or german |
| 12:18.32 | nevcairiel | i never really liked UK because the plug just sits on top of it, only being held by the pins, instead of going into the socket |
| 12:18.57 | Adys | (who else noticed that everyone in the world has a female ground except the french, who have a male one.) |
| 12:19.26 | karl_w_w | the earth pin is gripped nevcairiel |
| 12:19.40 | Adys | nevcairiel: its nice on power strips actually |
| 12:20.07 | Adys | and it doesn't gather dust inside the plug which is also nice |
| 12:20.17 | Adys | the UK cables tend to be pretty heavy |
| 12:20.29 | nevcairiel | australia sure looks odd |
| 12:21.05 | Adys | also the somewhat nice thing is there is no groundless cable or socket in the UK |
| 12:21.30 | Adys | ugh how i hate those groundless sockets back in france |
| 12:21.35 | nevcairiel | only very small devices around here use the "small" euro plug |
| 12:21.36 | karl_w_w | i sometimes feel like re-wiring my whole house and all my appliances to use uk plugs and sockets |
| 12:21.42 | nevcairiel | like, a small kitchen radio |
| 12:21.56 | Adys | karl_w_w: i thought about replacing my UK plugs by german ones |
| 12:22.13 | nevcairiel | you live in france and have UK plugs? |
| 12:22.17 | karl_w_w | u cant wire german plugs on your own though can u? |
| 12:22.21 | Adys | .. i live in the uk |
| 12:22.24 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 12:22.30 | nevcairiel | but you are french, arent you |
| 12:22.37 | Adys | im not on trial here |
| 12:22.43 | Kalroth | haha |
| 12:22.51 | nevcairiel | if you're french, yes you are |
| 12:22.57 | Kalroth | adys is more greek than french anyways |
| 12:23.43 | Adys | but yeah |
| 12:24.19 | Adys | having moved out of the country 3 times, i can just confirm how *really* nice it is to be able to keep the same cables/wirings on everything |
| 12:24.38 | Adys | when i moved in to the UK i had to spend ~60gbp on cables (because OCD) |
| 12:25.13 | nevcairiel | In the grand scheme of the costs of moving to another country, that seems like a minor inconvenience |
| 12:25.42 | Adys | its still an inconvenience |
| 12:25.55 | Adys | there's no small bugs only small designers and all that. |
| 12:26.20 | Kalroth | are you playing swtor adys? |
| 12:26.35 | Adys | Kalroth: no, but more and more tempted |
| 12:27.09 | Adys | will see, i have to finish a couple more projects on wow first then ill think about it |
| 12:27.10 | Adys | why? |
| 12:27.21 | Kalroth | just curious |
| 12:27.30 | karl_w_w | are you Kalroth? |
| 12:27.31 | Adys | stalker |
| 12:27.36 | Kalroth | yes |
| 12:27.54 | Kalroth | im a powerful level 31 sith lord master warrior juggernaut hero |
| 12:28.04 | karl_w_w | notes in his Kalroth journal |
| 12:28.59 | Kalroth | and im thinking of levelling another class already, because the storylines are so good |
| 12:29.28 | nevcairiel | finish the first one first. :p |
| 12:29.34 | karl_w_w | from what I've heard you'd be better off doing that than trying to do anything entertaining at max level |
| 12:29.36 | Kalroth | yes yes |
| 12:29.59 | Kalroth | well i dont expect much mmo content at endgame, since BioWare got fuckall experience with that |
| 12:30.10 | Adys | karl_w_w: is swtor another of those "no endgame ready" mmos? |
| 12:30.11 | Kalroth | but they still make a good single player game |
| 12:30.23 | nevcairiel | it has some endgame |
| 12:30.25 | Adys | iirc thats what killed warhammer |
| 12:31.00 | karl_w_w | even the people who are giving it 10/10 on metacritic can't bring themselves to mention endgame |
| 12:31.02 | Kalroth | basically, if you liked SW:KOTOR or Mass Effect, then you'll find SW:TOR fun too |
| 12:31.48 | Kalroth | endgame remains to be seen, but from what i understand there are 2-3 overtuned raid encounters and some heroic instances |
| 12:32.06 | nevcairiel | due to the launch shortly before christmas many people are still leveling, so not many have actually experienced endgame, so its still a bit in the air |
| 12:32.51 | Kalroth | i think we're seeing our first level 50s in the guild I'm in and we're all slowpokes |
| 12:33.14 | Stanzilla | i think 5 bosses on nightmare are already dead |
| 12:33.24 | nevcairiel | who cares |
| 12:33.39 | Stanzilla | just saying! |
| 12:33.56 | Kalroth | i care, nev!11 |
| 12:34.05 | nevcairiel | who cares that Kalroth cares? |
| 12:34.14 | Kalroth | adys cares!! |
| 12:34.20 | Adys | i really dont |
| 12:34.37 | Adys | http://imgur.com/gallery/deelS gotta love the "first world problems" bit. |
| 12:34.38 | Kalroth | not caring is caring |
| 12:34.45 | Adys | i believe linuxians call that a third-world problem |
| 12:34.50 | karl_w_w | I care |
| 12:35.34 | Kalroth | if you use a proper *nix then you dont even have to reboot for kernel patches |
| 12:37.06 | karl_w_w | i wonder if they will fix that shit in win 8 |
| 12:37.19 | karl_w_w | absolute possibility: 5% |
| 12:37.32 | Kalroth | they wont |
| 12:38.02 | Kalroth | unless they totally rewrite windows again |
| 12:38.31 | Stanzilla | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mXjdfHLcu34 |
| 12:38.37 | Stanzilla | looks ok :o |
| 12:40.22 | karl_w_w | seriously? |
| 12:40.24 | Kalroth | i must admit that i find the graphics engine in Windows 7 rather clever |
| 12:40.27 | karl_w_w | sure it looks ok |
| 12:40.28 | Stanzilla | pretty good for the first tier actually |
| 12:40.36 | Kalroth | it can handle drivers crashing and updating |
| 12:41.04 | karl_w_w | kalroth: vista could handle the crashes too |
| 12:41.10 | Kalroth | vista is windows 7 |
| 12:41.43 | karl_w_w | ok seriously Stanzilla this fight looks all sorts of boring |
| 12:43.49 | Kalroth | its kael'thas!! |
| 12:47.25 | Stanzilla | meh |
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| 13:56.48 | jnwhiteh | Adys: do you see any issues with wowprogramming.com with larger font sizes or anything weird like that? |
| 13:57.52 | jnwhiteh | because I get this: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/e060b290370f3683dae78a308ba939a8.png but only on my thinkpad/ubuntu |
| 13:57.59 | jnwhiteh | I'm not sure I care very much :P |
| 13:59.43 | mitch0 | what's wrong with that? the "Reference Chapters ..." thing? |
| 13:59.52 | Stanzilla | "import to men" |
| 13:59.54 | Stanzilla | i see! |
| 14:00.43 | jnwhiteh | mitch0: yeah |
| 14:00.57 | jnwhiteh | Stanzilla: Mendeley, a reference management application :P |
| 14:01.04 | Stanzilla | yeah right! |
| 14:01.18 | jnwhiteh | I mean, I'd be more likely to import men, not import TO men |
| 14:01.22 | jnwhiteh | its like you dont even know me |
| 14:01.35 | Stanzilla | haha |
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| 14:12.00 | airtonix | knowing the reasons behind why the australian socket is the way it is, i'm surprised the US socket doesn't also have a switch on it. |
| 14:12.44 | nevcairiel | you sure are late to the discussion |
| 14:13.06 | airtonix | very observant of you watson |
| 14:21.05 | airtonix | anyway jnwhiteh, the reason the nav does that on the site is because of the sparse css rules present that describe it's layout. |
| 14:21.30 | airtonix | that and the wacky use of sprites for the logo and nav background |
| 14:22.22 | airtonix | oh and because you do measurements in px, when it should be done in em |
| 14:22.36 | airtonix | you/the author |
| 14:24.00 | Fisker | airtonix |
| 14:26.12 | jnwhiteh | airtonix: its me, and I fail at doing most of this stuff =) |
| 14:26.18 | jnwhiteh | why do you hate on the sprites? :P |
| 14:26.36 | airtonix | not hate, i just think the way the split is done isn't nessecary |
| 14:26.45 | jnwhiteh | it seemed to be back when I did it |
| 14:27.00 | jnwhiteh | but I only tweak the site every once in a while |
| 14:30.49 | jnwhiteh | airtonix: the margin-top really needs to be in pixels, since it shouldn't vary with the font size, so I'll have to work out a better way to do it |
| 14:31.21 | airtonix | done right, you should need to position anything there with margins |
| 14:31.42 | airtonix | i see you're also using blueprint |
| 14:32.05 | jnwhiteh | just typography |
| 14:32.42 | jnwhiteh | well I'm open to suggestions from those who know better :P |
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| 14:51.28 | airtonix | working on it |
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| 15:10.10 | Shirik | Cide: ping |
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| 15:24.43 | Shirik | Cide! Come back to me! T_T |
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| 15:54.32 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 15:54.33 | Fisker | i love you |
| 15:55.08 | Shirik | hey Fisker <3 |
| 15:55.19 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 15:55.22 | Fisker | wanna fuck? |
| 15:55.36 | durcyn | you have to tell him he has nice shoes first |
| 15:55.46 | Fisker | why? |
| 15:55.59 | durcyn | what are you, new at this? |
| 15:56.42 | Fisker | new at what? |
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| 15:58.02 | Thunder_Child | bad pickup lines |
| 16:03.25 | Fisker | they're not pickup lines |
| 16:03.27 | airtonix | jnwhiteh: do you have the original of the wow-programming logo without the sprite slicing? |
| 16:03.27 | Fisker | just questions |
| 16:04.36 | airtonix | jnwhiteh: nvm i can resplice it |
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| 16:16.41 | Fisker | hey Kalroth |
| 16:16.44 | Fisker | not so hey jnwhiteh |
| 16:18.07 | Kalroth | hej fisker din gamle røver |
| 16:18.17 | Fisker | nej |
| 16:18.50 | Kalroth | okay, minus the last 'er' then |
| 16:21.49 | Fisker | :( |
| 16:32.49 | karl_w_w | new mission impossible was pretty good |
| 16:33.11 | karl_w_w | i especially liked the bits where tom cruise got smacked in the head |
| 16:34.38 | Shirik | they see me rollin |
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| 16:52.56 | Kraps_w | karl_w_w: couldnt believe it had 94% on RT on friday |
| 17:00.30 | Xinhuan | Rofl.... @OceanStratagy renamed to @OceanDeepSea, so @OceanStrategy renamed to @OceanDeepSee |
| 17:00.32 | Xinhuan | hahahahahahaha |
| 17:00.36 | airtonix | jnwhiteh: see how this goes for you : http://dl.dropbox.com/u/180039/wowprogramming/index.html |
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| 17:02.29 | Fisker | it sucks airtonix |
| 17:03.14 | airtonix | oh ok |
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| 17:07.07 | airtonix | Fisker: so when are you going to reveal that you are @OceanStratagy ? |
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| 17:16.41 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: Ping |
| 17:17.27 | Arrowmaster | what |
| 17:17.51 | airtonix | http://i.imgur.com/jITYQ.jpg |
| 17:18.02 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: pidgin is telling me the SSL handshake failed but putty is connected fine, have any idea? |
| 17:18.24 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 17:18.31 | TC-Work | nvm |
| 17:18.39 | TC-Work | my computer is a retard |
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| 17:26.44 | Fisker | haste :( |
| 17:27.25 | haste | Fisker: :( |
| 17:27.43 | Fisker | :) |
| 17:27.47 | Stanzilla | :| |
| 17:28.07 | Kraps_w | :? |
| 17:28.13 | haste | :q |
| 17:28.35 | Fisker | D: |
| 17:28.42 | Fisker | i need a 3g modem haste |
| 17:29.26 | haste | I need to call customer service! |
| 17:29.55 | Fisker | i lol'd haste |
| 17:30.23 | haste | they don't want my money it seems :( |
| 17:32.34 | Fisker | that sucks haste |
| 17:32.48 | haste | yy |
| 17:33.43 | airtonix | Xinhuan: http://wwebsiteasontheinternet.com/ |
| 17:34.41 | jnwhiteh | airtonix: yes, I do |
| 17:34.50 | jnwhiteh | airtonix: that seems to work much nicer, i'll see about moving it over |
| 17:35.03 | airtonix | jnwhiteh: i didn't test it on ie or firefox |
| 17:35.14 | Xinhuan | hah |
| 17:35.26 | jnwhiteh | is the -webkit-user-select:auto; necessary? |
| 17:36.16 | jnwhiteh | much nicer, thank you |
| 17:36.26 | jnwhiteh | i'll see if I can make it work :P |
| 17:36.55 | Kraps_w | airtonix: you just got told , bitch |
| 17:37.01 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 17:37.31 | jnwhiteh | airtonix: did you alter anything other than wowprogramming.css and the html? |
| 17:37.33 | airtonix | jnwhiteh: that was there when i copied it, maybe chrome puts i there( or one of your js modules) |
| 17:37.40 | jnwhiteh | ah okay |
| 17:37.51 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh :( |
| 17:45.52 | Fisker | i don't know what to do |
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| 18:06.10 | airtonix | jnwhiteh: the logo |
| 18:06.32 | jnwhiteh | I'm working on putting it all in place now |
| 18:07.54 | airtonix | hey Fisker, ics. worth it on anything but the nexus? i heard it was made specifically for the nexus. |
| 18:08.46 | jnwhiteh | airtonix: login_status isn't a list of buttons, its just text with links |
| 18:08.56 | jnwhiteh | trying to get that to slot into place (you can see it live on the site) |
| 18:09.39 | airtonix | jnwhiteh: it's easier for users to click on things that have a large target area, which is why i changed that to a ul list |
| 18:09.59 | airtonix | since then you just apply horizontal-list to the container div |
| 18:10.09 | jnwhiteh | but its not just a list |
| 18:10.13 | jnwhiteh | it changes depending on context |
| 18:10.16 | airtonix | it is in my html |
| 18:10.21 | jnwhiteh | yes, in your version |
| 18:10.28 | jnwhiteh | logged it it does something different |
| 18:10.34 | airtonix | you can't change that in your cms templates ? |
| 18:10.42 | jnwhiteh | I can, i'm not going to |
| 18:11.47 | airtonix | i think all that really matters there is the wrapping div |
| 18:15.56 | alestane | http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/12/21/144076413/for-first-time-women-share-first-kiss-at-a-navy-homecoming |
| 18:16.01 | alestane | That's actually kind of cool. |
| 18:20.08 | jnwhiteh | airtonix: thanks for your help: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/pc/lua-wow |
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| 18:20.23 | jnwhiteh | i'll check on my ubuntu machine and firefox to make sure it hasn't gone super wonky |
| 18:20.47 | jnwhiteh | but some good cleanup there :P |
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| 18:23.17 | jnwhiteh | small issue with the search button on firefox and with the navigation list (background doesn't match the breadcrumb background) on my ubuntu machine, but better in the other ways :P |
| 18:24.34 | jnwhiteh | ack, opera also hates it. I'll have to see if i can do something with that |
| 18:25.54 | Adys | jnwhiteh: want me to check on fx? |
| 18:26.01 | jnwhiteh | Adys: fx? |
| 18:26.05 | Adys | firefox linux |
| 18:26.11 | Adys | also, what do you want me to check? I just woke up |
| 18:26.39 | jnwhiteh | airtonix helped me clean some of the website markup/css up |
| 18:26.44 | jnwhiteh | just making sure i didn't break things too much |
| 18:27.00 | Adys | so you're taking help from airtonix now huh |
| 18:27.01 | Adys | you traitor |
| 18:29.55 | Adys | jnwhiteh: the search button is misaligned on firefox |
| 18:30.01 | jnwhiteh | yeah I saw that |
| 18:30.24 | Adys | jnwhiteh: why dont you get the search button out of the search box? more like the google search box |
| 18:30.35 | jnwhiteh | I suppose I could |
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| 18:35.30 | jnwhiteh | hrm.. my opera gradient isn't working |
| 18:37.38 | TC-Work1 | jnwhiteh: when you mouseover a tab like 'forums' or 'about' is the visual tab supposed to be flish with the top bar, or not? |
| 18:37.48 | TC-Work1 | s/flish/flush/ |
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| 18:38.35 | jnwhiteh | TC-Work1: active should appear on top of the white bar of the yellow divider, mouseover ones should be 'behind' it |
| 18:38.36 | jnwhiteh | http://wowprogramming.com/utils/pc/lua-wow |
| 18:39.02 | jnwhiteh | at least that's what it did at some point |
| 18:39.04 | jnwhiteh | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/e59c1efc12fcb461a12c196539c4f017.png |
| 18:40.22 | Fisker | are you insane airtonix ? |
| 18:41.00 | airtonix | jnwhiteh: i'm not sure it's going to position exactly unless you use the html i provided |
| 18:41.11 | jnwhiteh | well, I can't do that |
| 18:41.38 | jnwhiteh | but the search button was misaligned in the copy you sent |
| 18:41.49 | jnwhiteh | and there's something up with Chromium on my ubuntu machine :P |
| 18:42.43 | jnwhiteh | but that's something I can sort out at another time |
| 18:42.53 | jnwhiteh | it seems okay now on opera/ie/firefore and chrome |
| 18:42.57 | jnwhiteh | at least on mac/windows |
| 18:43.03 | Fisker | airtonix |
| 18:43.06 | Fisker | insane? |
| 18:43.14 | TC-Work | jnwhiteh: this is what i have on linux firefox 3.x http://images.gammatester.com/pics/07dd639e4f02ac50a3aed9c52280ac4a.png |
| 18:43.15 | airtonix | depends, are you paul? |
| 18:43.35 | TC-Work | airtonix: i am |
| 18:43.37 | jnwhiteh | TC-Work: yeah I think that's because its FF3, it should be correct but not worth my fixing since newer versions all get it right |
| 18:43.41 | airtonix | TC-Work: what about here : http://dl.dropbox.com/u/180039/wowprogramming/index.html |
| 18:44.03 | TC-Work | airtonix: that works properly |
| 18:44.06 | Fisker | not paul at all airtonix |
| 18:44.30 | TC-Work | airtonix: the location arrows also look better |
| 18:45.02 | jnwhiteh | they're a completely different graphic =) |
| 18:45.13 | TC-Work | i know, i'm saying they look better |
| 18:45.15 | airtonix | yeah |
| 18:45.36 | airtonix | my main focus was making it no fall apart when you change font size |
| 18:45.42 | airtonix | ctrl mousewheel |
| 18:45.50 | jnwhiteh | well what I have now does that quite well |
| 18:45.58 | jnwhiteh | the changes made a big difference |
| 18:46.11 | airtonix | thats the main thing |
| 18:46.37 | jnwhiteh | the HTML on those bits are the same between the two |
| 18:46.39 | TC-Work | airtonix: when i use the font change it breaks the tabs |
| 18:46.43 | jnwhiteh | and I dont see any css changes |
| 18:46.47 | jnwhiteh | *shrug* |
| 18:47.08 | TC-Work | for some sizes |
| 18:47.09 | TC-Work | not all |
| 18:47.18 | airtonix | jnwhiteh: between what two ? |
| 18:47.27 | jnwhiteh | your dropbox version and the live version |
| 18:47.31 | jnwhiteh | for #navigation |
| 18:47.47 | airtonix | in the dropbox one the login_status contains a ul list instead of inline a tags |
| 18:47.53 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 18:47.58 | airtonix | and the log is an img |
| 18:47.58 | jnwhiteh | and I told you I can't/won't change that |
| 18:48.11 | jnwhiteh | i'm talking about #navigation |
| 18:48.31 | jnwhiteh | and as it stands, everything displays properly on mswin/ie and mac/ff/opera/chrome |
| 18:48.35 | airtonix | i think i put a .last on the last one ? |
| 18:48.54 | jnwhiteh | hrm. |
| 18:49.02 | jnwhiteh | nope |
| 18:49.04 | jnwhiteh | err |
| 18:49.11 | jnwhiteh | no, no last |
| 18:49.15 | jnwhiteh | we're talking the #navigtaion |
| 18:49.20 | jnwhiteh | you added .last to breadcrum, imo |
| 18:49.52 | jnwhiteh | ah works fine on safari as well |
| 18:50.12 | airtonix | most of the changes i made in the css |
| 18:50.28 | jnwhiteh | aye, and most of that I dropped in verbatim |
| 18:50.41 | jnwhiteh | places where I couldn't change the markup easily to match the CSS, I manually merged it |
| 18:50.55 | airtonix | oh i see now, i was looking at an old cached version |
| 18:51.06 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 18:51.39 | airtonix | yep looks good |
| 18:52.43 | jnwhiteh | gonna go run before it gets too dark |
| 18:52.52 | jnwhiteh | lol, sun has been down since 4, as per usual =/ |
| 18:52.58 | jnwhiteh | and I leave you with |
| 18:52.59 | jnwhiteh | http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/527003/ |
| 18:54.38 | airtonix | Fisker: lol faxing black pages |
| 18:56.04 | Fisker | mad? |
| 18:58.34 | Adys | jnwhiteh: 60 lines of code using an (admittedly simple) library |
| 18:58.43 | Adys | not nearly as impressive as it sounds |
| 18:58.57 | Adys | the lib in total is like 300 lines of code |
| 18:59.39 | Adys | 350 to be exact |
| 19:02.10 | Adys | function string:split(sep) |
| 19:02.10 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:02.12 | Adys | twitches |
| 19:03.19 | nevcairiel | Writting a "web server" which can serve one hardcoded static page in 60 lines isn't really magic |
| 19:03.39 | Adys | in 410 lines* |
| 19:04.15 | nevcairiel | give me a language with a bigger standard library and i do it in really 60 |
| 19:04.29 | nevcairiel | i'm sure python can do it in 60 without writing extra util classes first. :) |
| 19:04.31 | Adys | give me python and i import simpleserver. |
| 19:05.20 | Adys | This guy is an idiot |
| 19:05.36 | Adys | reading his blog, the one complaint he has about py3k is that it broke print |
| 19:05.52 | nevcairiel | but, print! |
| 19:07.13 | Adys | jnwhiteh: no offense but this guy's not just an idiot, he's a real dick |
| 19:08.09 | airtonix | Fisker: i'm a ninja at four frames a second |
| 19:09.56 | nevcairiel | apparently that guy lives in the same city as i do, i feel dirty now |
| 19:11.07 | alestane | How big a city is it? |
| 19:11.30 | Adys | quite big; there are buildings and roads, even some street signs |
| 19:11.31 | nevcairiel | coming up on 2 million |
| 19:11.42 | karl_w_w | lol Adys |
| 19:11.48 | alestane | Then I wouldn't worry too much. |
| 19:11.49 | nevcairiel | second biggest in germany, fwiw. :d |
| 19:12.22 | karl_w_w | the second biggest city in german has less than 2 million people in it? that cant be right :P |
| 19:12.40 | alestane | I'm iffy on German demographics...Is that Dresden, Frankfurt, or some other I didn't think of? I presume the first is Berlin. |
| 19:12.41 | Adys | sounds right to me |
| 19:12.48 | nevcairiel | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_Germany_by_population |
| 19:12.51 | nevcairiel | Hamburg |
| 19:12.57 | alestane | Okay, Hamburg. |
| 19:13.07 | karl_w_w | jesus thats surprising |
| 19:13.20 | Adys | in greece, the second largest city has like 700k |
| 19:13.42 | Adys | (yay for countries that have just a capital and nothing else) |
| 19:15.14 | Adys | Kalroth: do you really have this in denmark? http://www.internationalconfig.com/prod_shot/77509x45.jpg |
| 19:15.22 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:15.40 | nevcairiel | i thought the things were vertically aligned |
| 19:16.10 | nevcairiel | http://www.automaticwasher.org/TD/JPEG/MODERN/2009/mrx++12-6-2009-15-33-23.jpg |
| 19:16.13 | nevcairiel | like that ^ |
| 19:16.17 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 19:16.20 | nevcairiel | guess those are round! |
| 19:16.30 | Adys | those are europlug-compatible |
| 19:16.50 | nevcairiel | i also found these: http://www.leadsdirect.co.uk/images/technical/danish%20plug.jpg |
| 19:16.58 | nevcairiel | looks even more hilarious |
| 19:17.17 | karl_w_w | Adys: well england is london >7 million then birmingham ~1 million |
| 19:17.21 | Adys | ok that country is a stand-in joke |
| 19:17.59 | Adys | karl_w_w: that wasnt my point; athens is over 10 million and then 700k |
| 19:18.17 | Adys | and then its like 300k? i dont even remember |
| 19:18.20 | Kalroth | Adys, yes |
| 19:18.28 | Kalroth | it's a computer-only plug |
| 19:18.39 | nevcairiel | its quite common for alot of european countrys to be that way |
| 19:18.49 | Adys | athens has like 3 large cities |
| 19:18.53 | Adys | er |
| 19:18.54 | Adys | greece |
| 19:19.04 | nevcairiel | Paris is > 2 mnillion, next one is Marseille with ~800k or so |
| 19:19.19 | nevcairiel | not counting urban areas around the citys |
| 19:19.21 | Adys | no, they're a lot larger |
| 19:19.25 | Adys | yeah im counting those |
| 19:19.35 | Adys | (you have to count those really) |
| 19:19.35 | nevcairiel | then paris is around 11m |
| 19:19.41 | nevcairiel | and marseille 1.5 |
| 19:19.45 | Kalroth | Adys, its mainly used to indicate that it runs on a different power fuse than the normal plug |
| 19:20.32 | Adys | yeah but thats the thing nevcairiel, france, germany, etc do a pretty good job of spreading the population in a lot of cities; you have to look at how many big cities the country has as well |
| 19:21.01 | karl_w_w | adys: well by population, germany has 1 big city :P |
| 19:21.04 | Adys | the uk is pretty wonderful on that |
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| 19:21.25 | Adys | karl_w_w: no? |
| 19:21.30 | nevcairiel | well its more extreme in germany then it is in france, we have berlin with around 3-4mil, hamburg with close to 2, and some others in the 1-2mil area |
| 19:21.44 | Adys | thats what i call quite an excellent spread |
| 19:21.46 | nevcairiel | france has at least paris which really stands out with its 11m |
| 19:21.54 | karl_w_w | less than 2 million doesnt seem big to me at all |
| 19:21.59 | Adys | like Kalroth's comment on mine last night |
| 19:22.10 | Adys | karl_w_w: lemme re-explain |
| 19:22.26 | Adys | actually, lemme change to more understandable values |
| 19:22.35 | Adys | over 90% of greece's population is in athens |
| 19:22.36 | nevcairiel | probably also have to see that in relation to total inhabitants of the country |
| 19:22.40 | nevcairiel | ^ |
| 19:23.26 | nevcairiel | germany has 80 million, 3.5m of that live in the capital, everyone else is spread around the rest of the country - way more useful then everyone living in or near the capital. ;) |
| 19:23.28 | karl_w_w | exactly, germany has 88 mil and doesnt even have 5% of that in 1 city |
| 19:24.08 | foxlit | nevcairiel: i also found these: http://www.leadsdirect.co.uk/images/technical/danish%20plug.jpg << such bs |
| 19:24.09 | Adys | karl_w_w: yes, 90% of greece lives in one city, while in germany, that number doesn't go past 5% |
| 19:24.13 | Adys | thats a *really* good spread |
| 19:24.19 | airtonix | Adys: karl_w_w, adelaide the 5th largest city in australia has about 1.2million, which sucks because the road and transit system is designed for half that. |
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| 19:24.30 | foxlit | You *really* don't get ground on sockets here. |
| 19:24.45 | karl_w_w | australia has 23 mil total, and the top 5 cities are 4.6, 4.1, 2, 1.7, 1.2 |
| 19:24.56 | karl_w_w | by that metric there are *no* big cities in germany |
| 19:25.02 | Adys | excellent spread again, australia is just too big |
| 19:25.16 | Adys | but when i say over 90% for greece im being nice; central greece is completely inhabited, then you get to northern greece which is a totally different country |
| 19:25.22 | nevcairiel | there arent enough people in australia to spread them over the whole country =P |
| 19:25.23 | airtonix | Adys: and ALL those cities are no further than 15mins from the beach |
| 19:25.31 | Adys | theres 9% of it in northern greece |
| 19:25.44 | Adys | the other 1% is spread between the islands |
| 19:25.47 | airtonix | nevcairiel: well that's if you count the middle of australia as habitable |
| 19:26.20 | Adys | geographically that makes a lot of sense |
| 19:26.34 | nevcairiel | at least you spread out on the coasts and didnt all go live in sydney! |
| 19:26.46 | karl_w_w | airtonix: my parents went to adelaide couple of weeks ago, apparently it's basically perth minus a couple of decades of progress |
| 19:26.50 | airtonix | we did when we first got here nevcairiel |
| 19:27.01 | airtonix | the rich lived in adelaide |
| 19:27.07 | Adys | im half expecting airtonix to say "ah, the good old times" |
| 19:27.09 | airtonix | and the peasants lived in syden |
| 19:27.32 | airtonix | karl_w_w: that's a far assesment |
| 19:27.37 | airtonix | fair* |
| 19:27.53 | Adys | well |
| 19:28.13 | airtonix | karl_w_w: what your parents probably didn't mention is that they were thinking of retiring here |
| 19:28.28 | Adys | im thinking over the next 100 years or so australia will become a *lot* more populated |
| 19:28.38 | Adys | by asians mostly |
| 19:28.47 | nevcairiel | there is just too many of those asians |
| 19:28.51 | airtonix | especially if some kind of cheap de-salination operation gets going |
| 19:28.56 | karl_w_w | adys: hardely likely |
| 19:29.01 | Adys | karl_w_w: why? |
| 19:29.10 | karl_w_w | xenophobia |
| 19:29.11 | nevcairiel | although the center really isnt all that friendly to people |
| 19:29.16 | Adys | karl_w_w: so? |
| 19:29.27 | Adys | a country being racist as fuck doesnt stop immigration |
| 19:29.30 | Adys | look at the UK/US |
| 19:29.35 | karl_w_w | you think? :P |
| 19:29.36 | airtonix | Adys: karl_w_w hasn't heard of indonesia |
| 19:29.59 | karl_w_w | spend a few years in australia and tell me again |
| 19:30.02 | nevcairiel | US cannot be racist, they arent even a race, they are the people europe didnt want anymore. :D |
| 19:30.20 | karl_w_w | imagine america, but with no land borders to patrol |
| 19:30.22 | airtonix | Adys: karl_w_w, as an indonesian you would go out fishing one morning, drift a bit... suddenly Darwin! |
| 19:30.48 | jnwhiteh | Adys: you should read his posts on the lua forums |
| 19:31.02 | Adys | karl_w_w: yes and that nicely stopped immigration for the few hundred years when we didnt have planes |
| 19:31.22 | Adys | jnwhiteh: whataboutem? |
| 19:31.32 | airtonix | karl_w_w: when was the last time you were in australia? |
| 19:31.38 | nevcairiel | anyway, time to cook me some lasagna! |
| 19:31.47 | Adys | karl_w_w: 1. asia is overpopulated; 2. australia is underpopulated; 3. australia is right under asia |
| 19:31.49 | karl_w_w | about nil seconds ago airtonix |
| 19:31.56 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 19:32.11 | airtonix | so you live in melbourne then |
| 19:32.17 | karl_w_w | perth |
| 19:32.47 | airtonix | anyway, you know indonesia right? |
| 19:32.53 | karl_w_w | I know of it |
| 19:32.55 | airtonix | great place |
| 19:33.23 | Adys | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:G_type_plug_and_socket.png wtf is this hole right next to the ground? |
| 19:33.27 | Adys | never seen it |
| 19:33.41 | jnwhiteh | this guys is insane |
| 19:33.55 | airtonix | the one with the screw in it? Adys |
| 19:34.05 | Adys | no |
| 19:34.05 | Adys | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c4/Basic_earth_pin_operated_shutter_socket.jpg |
| 19:34.06 | Adys | this one |
| 19:34.08 | airtonix | i imagine thats there so the thing doesn't fall apart |
| 19:34.10 | jnwhiteh | oh, no idea |
| 19:34.14 | jnwhiteh | that's weird |
| 19:34.28 | airtonix | thats a screw hole without a screw |
| 19:34.34 | Adys | jnwhiteh: what about his insanity? |
| 19:34.37 | Adys | im insane after all |
| 19:34.41 | jnwhiteh | well.. |
| 19:34.43 | jnwhiteh | not like this |
| 19:34.44 | karl_w_w | i think i have seen a socket like that before |
| 19:34.50 | karl_w_w | but it could be my imagination |
| 19:36.36 | Adys | jnwhiteh: well like how? |
| 19:36.42 | jnwhiteh | http://lua-users.org/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=Stefan+Reich&idxname=lua-l&max=100&result=normal&sort=date%3Alate |
| 19:36.47 | jnwhiteh | the good stuff starts at 68 |
| 19:36.49 | jnwhiteh | and work towards 1 |
| 19:37.04 | Adys | "i prefer the way that javascript does" |
| 19:37.07 | Adys | i see what you meant |
| 19:37.13 | jnwhiteh | particularly "Lets make a new place" and "Lua 5.2.0 rc2 now available |
| 19:37.32 | jnwhiteh | especially when he started signing his emails 'steve jobs |
| 19:37.40 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:38.29 | Adys | the guy went from php to lua |
| 19:38.34 | Adys | i respect the switch but damn |
| 19:38.48 | jnwhiteh | The part where he says that Roberto released Lua 5.2 because Stefan challenged his authority was awesome. |
| 19:39.19 | jnwhiteh | http://lua-users.org/lists/lua-l/2011-11/msg00945.html |
| 19:39.20 | Fisker | hello again jnwhiteh |
| 19:39.22 | alestane | Oh gods, Stefan Reich? |
| 19:39.34 | nevcairiel | alestane has heard of him, apparently! |
| 19:39.41 | alestane | He was a piece of work. |
| 19:39.42 | jnwhiteh | oh |
| 19:39.45 | jnwhiteh | http://lua-users.org/lists/lua-l/2011-11/msg00963.html was by FAR the best |
| 19:39.55 | jnwhiteh | I've used that phrase like seven times since |
| 19:40.11 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:40.15 | jnwhiteh | http://lua-users.org/lists/lua-l/2011-11/threads.html#00970 is a much easier view to see when he's responded. |
| 19:40.23 | jnwhiteh | Dutch hate: http://lua-users.org/lists/lua-l/2011-11/msg00964.html |
| 19:40.37 | alestane | He kept saying that the Lua mailing list was an unhelpful swamp of negativity and criticism, by which he really seemed to mean, "The people here don't think I'm automatically awesome." |
| 19:40.49 | jnwhiteh | alestane: his new list is hilarious |
| 19:40.52 | jnwhiteh | posted from it earlier today |
| 19:41.03 | alestane | Was that the miniserver post? |
| 19:41.06 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 19:41.22 | jnwhiteh | props to how much productivity actually happened on the list while he was outwardly insane |
| 19:41.32 | jnwhiteh | the lua authors kept responding to everyone else and ignoring him |
| 19:41.34 | jnwhiteh | and he's gone now :P |
| 19:42.12 | nevcairiel | some guy apparently created the list for him just to get rid of him from the main list. :D |
| 19:42.31 | Adys | jnwhiteh: im proud of the fact i could identify he was an idiot and a dick by noticing his blog post about python's print |
| 19:42.42 | jnwhiteh | alestane: :P |
| 19:42.49 | Adys | i'll never ignore my instincts again |
| 19:42.56 | jnwhiteh | amro: game? |
| 19:43.02 | haste | nevcairiel: yeah, and he started using it :P |
| 19:43.18 | jnwhiteh | i wonder how many people like me joined |
| 19:43.20 | airtonix | haste: hur hur |
| 19:43.21 | jnwhiteh | to watch the fireworks |
| 19:43.50 | airtonix | give an irishman a circular room... |
| 19:44.02 | Adys | hahaha |
| 19:44.04 | Adys | "PHP 5, Java, ASP.NET as well as V8 are fully vulnerable to this issue and PHP 4, Python and Ruby are partially vulnerable" |
| 19:44.31 | jnwhiteh | what issue? |
| 19:44.36 | Adys | http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2011/12/huge-portions-of-web-vulnerable-to-hashing-denial-of-service-attack.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss |
| 19:46.49 | jnwhiteh | ah |
| 19:46.51 | jnwhiteh | interesting |
| 19:46.59 | nevcairiel | so thats what that fix in tomcat was about |
| 19:47.01 | nevcairiel | now i understand! |
| 19:47.26 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_EEhviEO1Vo#! |
| 19:47.34 | Adys | skip first 5 mins |
| 19:47.47 | nevcairiel | i wanted to go to the conference, but $stuff came up :/ |
| 19:47.55 | nevcairiel | hopefully next year again |
| 19:49.48 | foxlit | hm, cute |
| 19:49.50 | foxlit | but boring :9 |
| 19:51.24 | karl_w_w | Polar Bear Collar was awarded through a Coke promotion in China, only one EU character had one out of the entire sample (we only track US and EU). |
| 19:51.24 | karl_w_w | that's quite impressive |
| 20:11.23 | karl_w_w | http://ingame.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/28/9770514-chastened-gaming-rep-responds-to-internet-infamy |
| 20:11.26 | karl_w_w | blinks |
| 20:11.51 | karl_w_w | this guy seriously doesn't have the slightest clue about... anything! |
| 20:16.00 | karl_w_w | I'm increasingly convinced that he's actually a 13 year old and the guy in the pictures and the few promo videos is his mentally challenged uncle who he pays in candy to be the face of his little operation |
| 20:16.19 | Adys | you don't have to be a kid to be a douche |
| 20:17.09 | Adys | some guy on reddit found a case of domestic violence against him filed a couple years ago |
| 20:17.13 | Adys | karma tbfh |
| 20:18.00 | amro | jnwhiteh: sure |
| 20:18.10 | jnwhiteh | amro: just finishing then dinner then maybe more |
| 20:18.11 | jnwhiteh | i'll check then |
| 20:18.17 | amro | ok |
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| 20:28.01 | Fisker | TL;DR karl_w_w |
| 20:28.55 | karl_w_w | Fisker: douchebag still a douche, blames everybody else |
| 20:29.02 | Fisker | yes karl_w_w |
| 20:29.03 | Fisker | i got that |
| 20:29.22 | karl_w_w | so that TL;DR was a lie! |
| 20:30.15 | Fisker | nope karl_w_w |
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| 20:41.37 | jnwhiteh | amro: just destoryed with hammer |
| 20:54.52 | olafski | is there any addon which can move that green button during the madness fight? :s |
| 21:00.07 | amro | jnwhiteh: carry or support? |
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| 21:11.19 | jnwhiteh | amro: back |
| 21:11.26 | jnwhiteh | amro: um.. first 15 were pure support |
| 21:11.31 | jnwhiteh | but i did all the damage later on |
| 21:11.57 | Mr_Rabies | olafski, you can make a macro to put it on your actionbars, somewhat |
| 21:12.29 | Mr_Rabies | but bartender can move and hide it |
| 21:12.40 | Mr_Rabies | most action bar addons can interact with it by now |
| 21:13.05 | Mr_Rabies | /click ExtraActionButton1 |
| 21:13.14 | Mr_Rabies | should be the macro for it |
| 21:14.15 | olafski | ah great |
| 21:14.18 | olafski | I use bartender :D |
| 21:15.56 | jnwhiteh | i'm impatient =) |
| 21:16.37 | olafski | thanks mr_rabies |
| 21:16.41 | amro | jnwhiteh: patching |
| 21:16.47 | jnwhiteh | ill wait |
| 21:16.51 | olafski | I'm loving this christophoro drama :D |
| 21:16.52 | jnwhiteh | was 27 seconds into queue :P |
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| 21:18.06 | amro | jnwhiteh: im in |
| 21:23.13 | airtonix | karl_w_w: unfortunately he's not, and it seems to have been swept under the rug that there are questions as to wether or not he runs n-controller too |
| 21:23.50 | airtonix | karl_w_w: at some point someone dug up some records that show he is more than just a contracted pr guy |
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| 22:00.20 | kd3 | er, I already have a voicemail password... why did I get a text from at&t recommending I add one? |
| 22:00.24 | kd3 | calls voicemail... |
| 22:01.22 | Arrowmaster | the fuck, i didnt think it was possible to not have a password on at&t voicemail |
| 22:06.05 | kd3 | http://att.com/vm |
| 22:06.09 | kd3 | apparently it is possible... |
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| 22:24.19 | *** topic/#wowuidev is http://pastebin.com || 4.3.x ToC: 40300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Happy Yule! |
| 22:28.45 | kd3 | heh. seeing this still makes me far happier than it should https://plus.google.com/u/0/114344993641253071132/posts/J1CNTGwDvTE |
| 22:30.17 | Arrowmaster | dont need it for next year? |
| 22:30.32 | kd3 | nope. it's time-limited and would have "expired" in a few days |
| 22:30.44 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 22:31.00 | Arrowmaster | how exactly does it expire? |
| 22:31.32 | kd3 | it's not a regular CD, more of a data disc. we have a special player that's got a date/time function (and maybe an internal disk?). outside of the times encoded on the disc, the player won't play it |
| 22:31.45 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 22:31.50 | kd3 | it's not hooked up to anything, so we could fudge the time on the player, probably |
| 22:31.59 | Arrowmaster | proprietary shit |
| 22:32.52 | Adys | http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2011/12/spammers-take-control-of-new-york-times-e-mail-list.ars |
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| 22:34.39 | Shirik|Ghost | Cide: ping |
| 22:37.04 | Shirik|Ghost | Since when does Cide not answer you all day :( |
| 22:37.31 | kd3 | huh; samoa is dropping friday this week |
| 22:37.37 | kd3 | http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/28/9772352-samoa-drops-friday-from-calendar |
| 22:41.59 | Shirik|Ghost | cool |
| 22:42.12 | Shirik|Ghost | except I'm going to have to disagree with "just this once" |
| 22:42.19 | Shirik|Ghost | haven't they been on both sides already? |
| 22:42.35 | kd3 | covered in the article, yup |
| 22:48.01 | Dagmar | I don't see how they can even fuck that up |
| 22:48.36 | Dagmar | Completely baffling that they're talking about paying people for a day that won't happen |
| 22:49.16 | kd3 | same reason we get paid for the hour that won't happen when daylight saving time starts in a few months... |
| 22:49.19 | Dagmar | At least the people in charge have a clear reason for it, unlike the madness of the DST change in the US |
| 22:49.34 | Dagmar | kd3: I have never gotten paid for the hour that didn' thappen. |
| 22:49.46 | Dagmar | ...and I have actually worked that shift four times |
| 22:50.12 | kd3 | huh |
| 22:50.34 | Dagmar | If you're working at 1am, you don't get paid for the hour that doesn't happen. |
| 22:50.53 | Dagmar | If you're on salary, it's irrelevant, but most timekeeping systems handle that bit of crazy just fine |
| 22:51.09 | Arrowmaster | do you get paided for the extra hour? |
| 22:51.15 | Dagmar | One year we put down the times as midnight to 1am, then 2am to 7am. |
| 22:51.27 | Dagmar | ...then HR told us it wasn't even necessary to do that |
| 22:51.55 | Dagmar | Half the people put down that they'd worked from 11pm to 2am, then from 1am to 6am and that wasn't needed either (fall back change) |
| 22:54.51 | Shirik|Ghost | here's the catch |
| 22:54.57 | Shirik|Ghost | if you do that, you get paid for an extra hour ;) |
| 22:55.22 | Shirik|Ghost | assuming they don't catch it |
| 22:55.28 | Shirik|Ghost | and when they catch it they yell at you |
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| 23:08.33 | amro | jnwhiteh: ping |
| 23:08.45 | jnwhiteh | pong |
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| 23:13.32 | Xuerian | Ok. So. I need someone to sanity check this: http://pastebin.com/cpE36qAa This is constructed at the same time as the main option category which works fine. Nothing I attach to this one shows up at all. I'm missing a stupid mistake and have been staring at it too long to see it. |
| 23:13.58 | Xuerian | (Names due to "Let's make it as basic as possible to see if it will show anything") |
| 23:18.29 | nevcairiel | Does anything actually call show on all those frames, does Stylize do that? |
| 23:18.58 | nevcairiel | Also, SetWidth is double, maybe one is mean to be SetHeight? |
| 23:19.06 | nevcairiel | meant* |
| 23:20.00 | TC-Work | thats cool, newegg now sells mobile processors. |
| 23:21.18 | TMc51 | they've sold mobile cpus for a few years now :P |
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| 23:25.27 | TC-Work | i dont remember it having it's own category. |
| 23:25.58 | airtonix | that's ok, you're allowed to forget |
| 23:26.08 | airtonix | just not paul |
| 23:28.17 | mckenziemc | erases airtonix's memory. |
| 23:28.26 | airtonix | umadbro? |
| 23:28.31 | TC-Work | airtonix: it's very awkward when you keep saying my name. |
| 23:28.43 | airtonix | sorry brandon |
| 23:29.19 | mckenziemc | airtonix: i don't remember |
| 23:29.24 | TC-Work | why are the Xeon chips the only ones who can get 8 cores damit. |
| 23:33.40 | Xuerian | nevcairiel: Stylize basically just adds a random color backdrop |
| 23:34.13 | nevcairiel | well then add a SetHeight and a call to :Show and see what happens! |
| 23:35.49 | Fisker | y u all haet? |
| 23:36.56 | TMc51 | because hatarade > everything else duh |
| 23:41.53 | Xuerian | nevcairiel: Oh hey, stupid thing I missed #1. |
| 23:46.45 | Computerpunk | ~framexml |
| 23:46.45 | purl | i heard framexml is Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
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