| 00:04.26 | kd3 | gack! |
| 00:04.39 | kd3 | I look away for 30 minutes and my newsreader has nearly 800 items in it |
| 00:04.47 | TC-Work | :( i have forgotten all of my linux |
| 00:05.18 | kd3 | 90% of which is the steamgamesales rss... looks like steam dropped the price on all the things |
| 00:05.49 | TC-Work | kd3: hoiliday sale started |
| 00:05.59 | kd3 | indeed |
| 00:06.15 | kd3 | now to see what I don't already own so I can give them more of my money |
| 00:07.44 | Xyphoid | heh i have a feed filtered to only list 50% or more off |
| 00:07.49 | Xyphoid | and ignore train games |
| 00:07.59 | kd3 | I should look in to that |
| 00:08.17 | kd3 | and... yay! AT&T-Mobile is dead |
| 00:11.44 | kd3 | re steam: http://i.imgur.com/M8kez.png |
| 00:13.20 | Arrowmaster | kd3: my reader only keeps the most recent 200 from each source, earlier today i cleared the steamgamesales one and went to the bathroom, when i got back there was another 200 |
| 00:14.49 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: dont take so long in the bathroom |
| 00:15.10 | alestane | Cairenn: When you find out about kitty? |
| 00:15.20 | Cairenn | I can haz her! |
| 00:15.31 | Cairenn | DJ is busy growling and hissing at her, heh |
| 00:15.58 | alestane | So, kitteh is paid for and home. |
| 00:16.02 | Cairenn | yup yup |
| 00:16.06 | alestane | Is she very sweet? |
| 00:16.13 | Cairenn | Yeah, seems to be |
| 00:16.21 | alestane | Is she nervous? |
| 00:16.34 | Cairenn | Nope, not at all |
| 00:16.38 | alestane | How old is she? |
| 00:16.42 | Cairenn | She's very playful (only a year old) |
| 00:16.47 | Cairenn | Very talkative |
| 00:17.01 | alestane | What's she look like? |
| 00:17.26 | Cairenn | She winds herself around my legs and purrs loudly whenever she can get near me without DJ being there snarling at her, so I think she's going to be very cuddly and affectionate |
| 00:17.33 | Cairenn | She's a black and white short hair |
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| 00:19.18 | Cairenn | it's cute though, her face is all black, but her whiskers on nose & eyebrows both are pure white |
| 00:22.23 | alestane | She sounds like a sweetie. |
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| 00:24.49 | Cairenn | She seems to be, so far |
| 00:32.32 | TC-Work | i dont trust sweet cats, that just means they have something up their fur |
| 00:33.31 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 00:43.16 | BlueAckisFishMan | Fisker: do you have a site that tells me where to do the achievements for this stupid steam thing? |
| 00:51.41 | Arrowmaster | http://imgur.com/gallery/nB3b0 |
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| 00:54.54 | bluspacecow | depends son. which game ? I have links to how -to s for Portal 2 |
| 00:56.16 | BlueAckisFishMan | all the games! :D |
| 00:58.50 | bluspacecow | try gamefaqs.com |
| 00:59.30 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: now with sound http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WJmxi3vYRU |
| 01:00.08 | Cairenn | heh |
| 01:00.42 | Arrowmaster | and linked on the imgur page for the gif of it, http://animals.howstuffworks.com/pets/domestic-cat-info5.htm |
| 01:01.13 | Dagmar | No, it pretty much only requires a solid block "behind" you to make it go |
| 01:01.21 | Arrowmaster | tl;dr, cats are gyroscopic parachutes |
| 01:01.27 | Dagmar | yay connectbot |
| 01:08.08 | KarlKFI|work | but only above 4 floors |
| 01:08.49 | KarlKFI|work | otherwise it's entirely from landing on 4 legs designed to take impacts |
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| 01:12.01 | alestane | That's like the story about the cat who got knocked off the Washington Monument...witnesses said he basically did a flying squirrel thing to the ground. |
| 01:12.13 | alestane | Landed a little rough, but picked himself up and headed home. |
| 01:18.44 | Arrowmaster | the title from the video said that particular cat jumped from only the 2nd floor |
| 01:18.58 | Arrowmaster | and it sounded like it landed on something |
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| 01:26.38 | Shirik|Ghost | someone save me |
| 01:26.45 | Shirik|Ghost | I'm actually thinking about buying EA stock |
| 01:27.23 | KarlKFI|work | why's that |
| 01:27.44 | KarlKFI|work | thinking Origin's going to be a smash hit? |
| 01:27.56 | Dagmar | LOL |
| 01:28.19 | KarlKFI|work | don't feel bad tho. i applied to work at EA. |
| 01:28.58 | Shirik|Ghost | no |
| 01:29.14 | Shirik|Ghost | I just think the analysts are underestimating how TOR is going to do |
| 01:29.29 | Arrowmaster | doubt it |
| 01:29.43 | Shirik|Ghost | why do you say that |
| 01:30.12 | Arrowmaster | im betting most people that will play it have already purchased/preordered it |
| 01:30.17 | TC-Work | anyone know the linux terminal command to start control panel? |
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| 01:30.29 | Shirik|Ghost | sure |
| 01:30.39 | Dagmar | Somehow I suspect the people who played the last SW game are going to be remarkably unimpressed. |
| 01:30.46 | Shirik|Ghost | but I don't think that would have come up during Q3 |
| 01:31.07 | Dagmar | TC-Work: Which control panel? |
| 01:31.12 | Shirik|Ghost | Dagmar: I'm not quite sure how the people who played the last SW game could be unimpressed at all |
| 01:31.23 | Shirik|Ghost | like if I were one of them, I would have been impressed by a pong mmo after that |
| 01:31.28 | TC-Work | Dagmar: system |
| 01:31.33 | Dagmar | Shirik|Ghost: The ones who are currently playing Star Trek Online will probably be mad |
| 01:31.47 | KarlKFI|work | STO was fun for a month |
| 01:31.55 | Dagmar | TC-Work: Linux doesn't have a thing like that. KDE and Gnome do |
| 01:31.59 | KarlKFI|work | but only because i bought it half off |
| 01:32.29 | TC-Work | Dagmar: sorry, KDE then |
| 01:32.34 | KarlKFI|work | TOR is prety WoW-like without much innovation |
| 01:32.44 | Shirik|Ghost | disagree 100% |
| 01:32.52 | Dagmar | TC-Work: `kcontrol` *might* get it |
| 01:33.12 | Shirik|Ghost | unless you mean "there's health and there's quests and people die" |
| 01:33.13 | TC-Work | yep, that did it |
| 01:33.14 | Dagmar | TOR seemed like a search-replace job to be |
| 01:33.14 | Shirik|Ghost | then yes it's the same |
| 01:33.24 | TC-Work | thanks |
| 01:33.28 | Shirik|Ghost | both of you obviously haven't played it, because you couldn't possibly say that |
| 01:33.30 | mckenziemc | <- agree 50% |
| 01:33.33 | Shirik|Ghost | like it is fundamentally different |
| 01:33.35 | Dagmar | Actually I did play it |
| 01:33.38 | Shirik|Ghost | at its core |
| 01:33.50 | KarlKFI|work | i played a friends account fro like 30min, that's about it |
| 01:33.56 | Shirik|Ghost | yeah you can't do that |
| 01:34.04 | Dagmar | I went through a couple classes to 15 |
| 01:34.10 | KarlKFI|work | too bad. i did anyway |
| 01:34.13 | Shirik|Ghost | nope |
| 01:34.22 | Shirik|Ghost | you actually got to level 15 and then erased from your memory the other parts |
| 01:34.29 | Shirik|Ghost | it's impossible to only play for 30 minutes |
| 01:34.50 | Dagmar | I definitely don't see that |
| 01:34.52 | KarlKFI|work | not really. you actually just sit down int eh chair and put your hands ont he kb/mouse and start clicking |
| 01:35.05 | KarlKFI|work | not very impossible |
| 01:35.09 | Dagmar | I had no problems walking away from it actually |
| 01:35.13 | KarlKFI|work | ^^ |
| 01:35.15 | Shirik|Ghost | you both suck |
| 01:35.22 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 01:35.26 | Dagmar | Now, Lightspeed was another matter |
| 01:35.40 | Dagmar | I didnt' really feel like I was warmed up until I'd taken out 20 people |
| 01:35.40 | Shirik|Ghost | isn't that a trading platform? |
| 01:35.49 | KarlKFI|work | i obviously cant say anythign useful about the story, that's a completely different matter |
| 01:35.55 | Dagmar | No, it was when they added spaceflight/combat to the _last_ SW game |
| 01:36.13 | KarlKFI|work | but the generic questing and items and generic MMO-stuff is pretty much WoW |
| 01:36.20 | Dagmar | ...which was *ahem* actually mostly 6dof |
| 01:36.37 | KarlKFI|work | the instancing is maybe slightly new, but it's really just the next step on top of wow's phasing |
| 01:36.41 | Shirik|Ghost | see but it's the way the whole story system works that makes it so different |
| 01:36.54 | KarlKFI|work | different story != different game |
| 01:37.00 | Dagmar | ...and the shipmates... er... um companions are completely original. Heh |
| 01:37.07 | durcyn | repeatedly conflating 'standard mmo element' with wow specifically means you should probably stop fucking talking |
| 01:37.31 | karl_w_w | kicked from a group for dpsing the wrong target |
| 01:37.39 | karl_w_w | im a telluric currents shaman |
| 01:37.40 | Shirik|Ghost | pretty mch true, which is why I said (17:33:01) (@Shirik|Ghost) unless you mean "there's health and there's quests and people die" |
| 01:37.41 | KarlKFI|work | ooo, now we're cussing, aren't we big men |
| 01:37.51 | Dagmar | The one good thing is that it'll get all the ST fans and the SW fans together in order to make sure there is NEVER A Twlight MMO |
| 01:37.56 | Shirik|Ghost | ha |
| 01:38.27 | Dagmar | I actually have to agree with durcyn a bit there |
| 01:38.35 | Arrowmaster | a twlight mmo could actually be an awesome thing |
| 01:38.42 | Shirik|Ghost | I'm going to ban you |
| 01:38.50 | Dagmar | [1;30m[[1;37m1[1;30m][0m ùíù You're not opped on #wowuidev[0m |
| 01:38.52 | Dagmar | *sigh* |
| 01:39.01 | Dagmar | kline doesn't work eitehr |
| 01:39.11 | KarlKFI|work | ok fine i will amend my statement. it's not like WoW. it's like every other MMO i've ever played... that better? |
| 01:39.39 | Shirik|Ghost | Sure, except it begs the question "why is SC2 so good?" |
| 01:39.44 | Shirik|Ghost | but I don't think you play it |
| 01:39.48 | Dagmar | Well, it's more of a matter of it would be hard for it to be a traditional MMO (or even recognizable as an MMO) if it didn't have quests, NPCs and the like |
| 01:39.56 | KarlKFI|work | because it's not an MMO? |
| 01:40.10 | Dagmar | Saying there's something wrong with that would be like chiding machines at an arcade because they've mostly all got joysticks and buttons |
| 01:40.14 | Shirik | but how is it different from other RTSes? |
| 01:40.27 | KarlKFI|work | are you really betting on me not having played SC2/ |
| 01:40.34 | Shirik | I've never seen you play |
| 01:40.47 | KarlKFI|work | just because i'm not an addict, doesn't mean i dont play |
| 01:40.50 | Dagmar | I mean, sure you COULD wander around a landscape merely deriving satisfaction from the "experience" of being there, but how is that indistinguishable from a screensaver that runs your power bill up |
| 01:40.58 | Shirik | Cide kicked me from his team :( |
| 01:41.23 | KarlKFI|work | in fact i played several games this weekend at a lan party |
| 01:41.40 | KarlKFI|work | it's not my fault you sleep at night |
| 01:43.19 | Dagmar | You could, of course, eliminate trainers, make everything gear-based, and maybe do something to avoid having a quest dialog panel appear, and then you'd probably just have EVE |
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| 01:44.05 | Dagmar | Unrelated... WTF @ Esben |
| 01:44.13 | Dagmar | er Esbern |
| 01:44.20 | Dagmar | WHY would they do that?!? |
| 01:44.29 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 01:44.39 | Dagmar | Skyrim, you've played it, right? |
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| 01:46.12 | Dagmar | So, there's this character in Skyrim that's voiced by Max Von Sydow, named Esbern. He's not exactly a "major" character, but he's fairly important |
| 01:46.30 | Dagmar | Max's voice is very recognizable. Problem is, he didn't do _all_ the lines |
| 01:47.11 | Dagmar | I don't know if it was a last-minute addition, or some parts that got lost somewhere, but at several places, sometimes literally one statement after the other, they've got someone who is definitely *not* Max Von Sydow doing the voice |
| 01:47.36 | Arrowmaster | so same issue from oblivion where they combined generic voiceovers for multiple characters with specific lines for certain characters and it just sounds fucked up |
| 01:47.38 | Dagmar | "What just happened? Esbern sounds like some guy from the pub now." |
| 01:48.04 | Dagmar | I don't think you should *ever* do that for a voice as recognizable as that |
| 01:48.09 | KarlKFI|work | they had that problem in Oblivion too. not always the same actor for the same character |
| 01:48.13 | Shirik | esbern |
| 01:48.31 | Shirik | is he that guy you have to coax out of his own dungeon place |
| 01:48.36 | KarlKFI|work | it's really more of a contracting problem, i'd bet |
| 01:48.40 | Dagmar | Yes. The gravelley sounding swede |
| 01:49.11 | KarlKFI|work | if you don't contract the peeps to come back and do more lines later you're dooming yourself |
| 01:49.36 | Dagmar | That might explain it |
| 01:49.56 | KarlKFI|work | because after putting the game and voices together a lot of things change |
| 01:50.08 | Dagmar | That Blood On The Ice quest better not turn out to be part of the first DLC |
| 01:50.35 | Arrowmaster | did the latest patch fixed that quest yet? |
| 01:50.45 | Dagmar | Nope. |
| 01:50.56 | Dagmar | I can't cajole that stupid quest into showing up |
| 01:51.00 | KarlKFI|work | as for SC2, it has many unique or evolved elements that make it superior to prior RTSes, but it's still not as much of a leap forward as the original SC was. |
| 01:51.09 | Dagmar | I'm somewhat tempted to just stand on that grave and kill everyone who walks by |
| 01:51.17 | Dagmar | "I FOUND THE BUTCHER! I'M RIGHT HERE. GIMME THE HOUSE!" |
| 01:51.32 | Arrowmaster | your on the pc right? |
| 01:51.35 | Dagmar | Yep. |
| 01:51.40 | Dagmar | That thing is very knackered |
| 01:51.41 | Arrowmaster | you can force it to start |
| 01:51.45 | Dagmar | How? |
| 01:52.02 | Dagmar | setstage ms11 doesn't make it care |
| 01:52.14 | Dagmar | I've been all up and down the wiki page about it and absolutely nothing worked |
| 01:52.20 | KarlKFI|work | We could cite the best map editor to date, the heavy scripting of the missions, the top notch music and voice acting, the constant balancing, the built in observer tools, a matchmaking system that actually works, an engaging meta-game.... none of those are individually unique, but the combination is the best execution so far |
| 01:52.37 | Dagmar | Don't forget the dancing Nelf |
| 01:52.47 | Dagmar | That was awsomesauce |
| 01:52.54 | KarlKFI|work | in SC2? |
| 01:52.58 | Dagmar | In the future, all strippers are holographic |
| 01:53.48 | Dagmar | KarlKFI: You're going to tell me that wasn't a dancing nightelf in the bar? |
| 01:53.49 | Xyphoid | has sc2 modding taken off like wc3 modding did? |
| 01:53.56 | Arrowmaster | ohh |
| 01:53.56 | KarlKFI|work | i dont think that qualified as one o f the things that made sc2 awesome... |
| 01:53.59 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: "The quest will initiate after you entered Windhelm four times from another hold city (simply traveling to another hold is not enough to trigger). Additionally, you will have to enter Windhelm during the night through the main gate.' |
| 01:54.33 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: I have actually gone in and out of that gate four times in a row, done it four times in a row making laps out to the stable and back, done it all at 1am, 2am, and sunser |
| 01:54.36 | Dagmar | er sunset |
| 01:54.36 | KarlKFI|work | otoh the Nelf dance in WoW was probably much more contributory to awesomeness |
| 01:55.09 | Dagmar | KarlKFI: I like that the hologram in SC2 kind of set itself up as a memorial to the stripper nelf |
| 01:55.16 | KarlKFI|work | Xyphoid: depends what you mean by "taken off". |
| 01:55.46 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: The relevant counter was at 48 when I started getting serious about it. I even reset that to 3, repeated, and 4. |
| 01:55.51 | Dagmar | Going in and out of the gate won't do it |
| 01:55.59 | KarlKFI|work | more games have mods now so it's not really possible to explode in popularity the way it did in WC3 |
| 01:56.04 | Xyphoid | like, anyone done good third-party single-player campaigns yet? |
| 01:56.17 | Xyphoid | i spent like six months just working through single-player wc3 mods |
| 01:56.30 | KarlKFI|work | i don't knwo that i'd call single-player campagns the end-all of modding |
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| 01:56.44 | Dagmar | heh |
| 01:56.56 | Dagmar | Has LBP taught us *nothing*? |
| 01:57.02 | Xuerian | Any XLoot users feeling frisky? I need a guinea pig. |
| 01:57.17 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: i thought i read that you could also use the console to unlock the door to the house and go inside and that will trigger it |
| 01:57.27 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: I actually went to that trouble, too. |
| 01:57.35 | KarlKFI|work | there are plenty of maps, many of them highly customized and triggered. Unfortunetly there's a wide range of polish |
| 01:57.40 | Dagmar | Grabbed all the flyers, the amulet, the two journals.... Nothing triggered. |
| 01:57.55 | Dagmar | Talked to the old woman with flyers in hand. Nothing. |
| 01:58.15 | KarlKFI|work | and now that HoN and LoL exists, no one wants to play the DotA clone in Sc2 |
| 01:58.21 | Dagmar | There's some piece that sets it up that just _breaks_ and once it's broken it's dead all the way through |
| 01:58.39 | KarlKFI|work | DotA propped up WC3 for quite a long time |
| 01:58.54 | Dagmar | I have at least gotten a _reaction_ out of hte thing by setting both MS11 and MS11b to completed, but... at this point I wanna excuse to MURDER someone for the trouble I've been through |
| 01:59.05 | Dagmar | Ulfric, unfortunately, seems to be marked as essential. |
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| 01:59.20 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 01:59.41 | Dagmar | I had hopes of just making myself king and calling for an oust of the Thalmor |
| 01:59.50 | Xuerian | karl_w_w: You mean since DotA2 is almost out, no one wants to bother with (HoN|SC-DotA|BlizzDotA) |
| 02:00.01 | Dagmar | Still kinda suprised there were no repercussions for what I did at that embassy party |
| 02:00.28 | KarlKFI|work | Xuerian: take your pick |
| 02:00.31 | Dagmar | The Thalmor delegate should have been foaming at the mouth to kill me during the peace talk |
| 02:00.33 | Xuerian | Dagmar: I was personally disappointed that I couldn't WULD my way into their little fortress and murder them :( |
| 02:00.53 | KarlKFI|work | either way, WC3 had much less competition than SC2 did/does |
| 02:01.00 | Dagmar | Xuerian: When the jailed the maid, I decided I was angry about that |
| 02:01.08 | Xuerian | KarlKFI|work: Well really, LoL is the only one that innovated and made any reason to play anything BUT DotA2 if DotA is what you wanted |
| 02:01.19 | Dagmar | I then proceeded to work my way back through the Embassy and slaughter everyone. |
| 02:01.36 | Xuerian | Dagmar: I haven't done but a few stages in the mane questline tbh, I just stumbled upon the hilltop fortress while exploring |
| 02:01.43 | KarlKFI|work | LoL is pre-school compared to HoN. Not sure what you mean by innovated int hat context |
| 02:01.52 | Dagmar | "I know you guys are anxious to escape... but just hang here a moment. I have some things to take care of." *explosions ensue offscreen* |
| 02:02.06 | Dagmar | Xuerian: You'll be going in there at one point |
| 02:02.28 | Dagmar | The last time I ran past I didn't bother to see if I could even get in |
| 02:02.28 | Arrowmaster | yeah i found it while looking for the stead stone |
| 02:02.39 | Xuerian | KarlKFI|work: Innovated, differentiated, whatever. I'm not trying to give it credit, but I WILL give it the credit that it is much less rage-causing to play. And this is coming from someone who learned in early DotA, then played like 600 games in HoN beta.. |
| 02:02.40 | Arrowmaster | best stone in the game |
| 02:02.46 | Dagmar | I was *thorough* in my cleansing of the mansion |
| 02:02.54 | Xuerian | KarlKFI|work: And much more fun to play with people new to the genre... |
| 02:03.05 | Dagmar | We *do not* throw the nice maid lady in jail |
| 02:03.14 | KarlKFI|work | HoN has added some new modes in the last year that make it less rage-inducing to newbs and casuals |
| 02:03.17 | Xuerian | Heheh. |
| 02:03.47 | Dagmar | I'm all Mister Goody-Questdoer in these games, up to a point. |
| 02:04.02 | Xuerian | KarlKFI|work: Too little too late, really =\. I loved the game in Alpha/beta. It's still a decent game, and the changes were for the better.. But like I said, there's no REASON to play it over the other options (once DotA2 is out) |
| 02:04.09 | Dagmar | ...and at that point I just go on a mass-murdering spree |
| 02:04.24 | KarlKFI|work | hard to say before DotA 2 is actually out |
| 02:04.31 | KarlKFI|work | but perhaps |
| 02:04.34 | Xuerian | Dagmar: It's a good thing it's not fallout, really. I was a serial killer with all the karma in the world. |
| 02:04.42 | karl_w_w | Xuerian: I'm an xloot user |
| 02:04.44 | Xuerian | KarlKFI|work: Not really. I'm in the beta for it, and it's DotA. |
| 02:04.48 | Dagmar | If they didn't keep you so ammo-bound in FO3 I'd have made a serious dent in the variety of the remaining gene pool |
| 02:05.13 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: thats what melee is for |
| 02:05.19 | Dagmar | I hit that "Yeah, everyone here is going to die now, just for being in the area near *that*" a few times |
| 02:05.26 | Xuerian | Dagmar: It's better with one of the rebalances where headshots count. Get the ratslayer, and realize that the NCR carry the ammo. 1+1=ncr genocide |
| 02:05.41 | Xuerian | Wait, are karl_w_w and KarlKFI|work separate? |
| 02:05.45 | KarlKFI|work | i'm not sure it being DotA makes it inherently better. in fact if it's exactly like old DotA it'd be worse |
| 02:05.47 | KarlKFI|work | yes |
| 02:05.47 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Melee is for people I care enough for them to suffer. |
| 02:05.47 | Arrowmaster | Xuerian: yes |
| 02:05.50 | Xuerian | Oops. |
| 02:06.08 | Xuerian | Well, karl_w_w, if you'd like to test a dev copy of the new version with a options gui that'd be good, sorry for the missping |
| 02:06.33 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: i went the first 10 levels in fallout3 just using powerfists, then i switched to a combat shotgun for things that arent near me |
| 02:06.34 | Dagmar | If you're just Joe Targetface who happens to be scenery that might or might not have gotten the hooker-beating-pimp coffee in the mornings, it's bullets and I'm onto the next guy |
| 02:06.37 | karl_w_w | go for it |
| 02:06.59 | Dagmar | That's assuming I don't have grenades |
| 02:07.04 | Xuerian | KarlKFI|work: It doesn't make it inherently better, but there's no reason to play the DotA COPY (HoN, and that's what it is, even if they added a couple heros) if the real deal is out with the real dev and motherfrakking valve behind it. |
| 02:07.28 | KarlKFI|work | technically all 3 have"real" DotA devs |
| 02:08.01 | KarlKFI|work | Valve and $$$ makes a difference tho, yes |
| 02:08.09 | Xuerian | You're welcome to your opinion, I know that's all mine is, KarlKFI|work, but I'm pretty much sticking with it. Again, nothing against the game, but HoN was always a stopgap for me |
| 02:08.41 | KarlKFI|work | i dont play HoN regularly, i'm not defending it as better or worse than LoL |
| 02:08.50 | Xuerian | karl_w_w: I'll pack up a zip in a second. |
| 02:08.55 | Dagmar | Most of the players should be euthanised |
| 02:09.00 | karl_w_w | there is a possibility of it being WORSE than LoL? |
| 02:09.01 | Xuerian | KarlKFI|work: Apples to ... orange apples, anyway |
| 02:09.22 | Xuerian | Dagmar: No lie. HoN and DotA have the worst communities ever, backed up by the hordes of BR |
| 02:09.27 | KarlKFI|work | LoL always seemed like HoN's fisher-price cousin to me |
| 02:09.37 | KarlKFI|work | but it played ok |
| 02:09.48 | Xuerian | It is, pretty much. But it's fun to play with either ... well, baddies or noobs. |
| 02:10.04 | Dagmar | Xuerian: I liked how all the docs written heartily encouraged being a condescending dick to anyone not of your own class and build |
| 02:10.07 | Dagmar | That was pro |
| 02:10.07 | Xuerian | Not to be snobbish there, but heh. |
| 02:10.26 | Dagmar | Euthanization. |
| 02:10.30 | Xuerian | Dagmar: It's like 4chan without the CP. So angry. |
| 02:10.38 | KarlKFI|work | I think the significant issue here is the matchmaking, which HoN recently improved to allow you to opt to wait longer for a fairer match up |
| 02:11.12 | Xuerian | KarlKFI|work: They really did miss the boat there. LoL came out of the gate with full and partial matchmaking: So much easier to play with friends. HoN's like "well, we'll release it when we figure out how we're going to do it" |
| 02:11.19 | KarlKFI|work | because fi you're newb and play with non-newbs they will berate you to no end like constipated 12 year olds |
| 02:11.43 | Xyphoid | newbs also berate you all game as well |
| 02:11.57 | Dagmar | I was particularly impressed with the "I'm a newb" flag for random matches |
| 02:12.00 | KarlKFI|work | newbs usually can't figure otu hwo to get the voice chat to work |
| 02:12.18 | Dagmar | Without restraints on it, it was just 100% a "easy kills here" call |
| 02:12.45 | Dagmar | My first attempt at a match I was just figuring out that you buy stuff from these NPCs and *ROFLSTOMPSTABSTABSTAB* |
| 02:12.47 | Xuerian | It was funny getting the "stats next to name" mod and joining those games, looking at 2+KDR hosts |
| 02:13.00 | Xuerian | "hahahahahahaha <quit lobby>" |
| 02:13.16 | KarlKFI|work | aye it was liek that for a long time |
| 02:13.19 | Xuerian | Also they changed from the old lobby to the new, ass one on release. That annoyed me |
| 02:13.43 | KarlKFI|work | havent had as much trouble with that in the last year tho |
| 02:13.57 | KarlKFI|work | but yes, they prolly did miss the boat |
| 02:14.13 | KarlKFI|work | LoL had better match making out the door but worse assets |
| 02:14.36 | KarlKFI|work | anyway. I haven't played DotA2 yet, so i can't compare to that |
| 02:14.49 | KarlKFI|work | my initial comparison was that oth are better than the SC2 version |
| 02:14.54 | KarlKFI|work | both* |
| 02:15.09 | Dagmar | It needs to come with a way to murder the player. |
| 02:15.25 | Dagmar | Sooo many cases of "yes, YOU are the sole reason you are getting beat up on the playground, kid" |
| 02:15.34 | Xuerian | karl_w_w: PM |
| 02:16.05 | KarlKFI|work | oh, here's some SC2 campagn maps if you want: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/?category=campaign&site=+ |
| 02:16.05 | Xuerian | However, if LoL doesn't murder the tanky meta pretty hard I'm going to give it up. It's like when Behe hearts gave what, 2% regen, and stacked? |
| 02:16.11 | karl_w_w | im interested in this dota-style BG that was mentioned at blizzcon |
| 02:16.20 | karl_w_w | no1 seemed to pay much attention to that |
| 02:16.43 | KarlKFI|work | that's because they had no info on it. it was just an idea |
| 02:16.45 | Xuerian | Sweet lord, devos with two hearts "OLOLOLOL RAID BOSS" |
| 02:18.23 | Dagmar | Oh how I love whywasibanned.com |
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| 02:18.54 | Xuerian | Anyone play SWAT or Undead Assault 2 on wc3? |
| 02:18.59 | Dagmar | Just knowing they bring the hammer down *almost* makes me want to get an xbox |
| 02:21.44 | Xuerian | Dagmar: Why, though? Flagship games, or you have friends that play? Not much else of a reason =\ |
| 02:23.54 | Dagmar | One simple reason: I am very much in support of anyone who makes spoiled children cry |
| 02:24.01 | Dagmar | I cheer that shit on |
| 02:24.23 | Xuerian | I'm in support of anyone who keeps them away from me.. But that doesn't mean I'm going to buy the console :p |
| 02:24.45 | Dagmar | Multiplayer stuff on the PS3 has been pretty reasonable all in all |
| 02:25.28 | Dagmar | I've been *tempted* to go get the nifty mouse one can play with, but since very few people seem to be going that route I even play "legit" |
| 02:25.36 | Xuerian | Except for the whole PSN going down for a month thing, yeah. And stuff like Dust seems pretty interesting. |
| 02:25.46 | Xuerian | Hah, I watched a video of someone playing with that. It was pretty amusing |
| 02:25.52 | Dagmar | Yeah they don't have my details anymore. Period. |
| 02:25.58 | KarlKFI|work | From Dust is on pc |
| 02:26.01 | Dagmar | I purged all of that just to make sure |
| 02:26.03 | Xuerian | Dust 514 |
| 02:26.23 | Xuerian | Which is definitely NOT on PC, for some stupid reason.. The EVE-linked shooter |
| 02:26.37 | KarlKFI|work | hadn't seen that |
| 02:26.48 | Xuerian | It is really quite interesting. As to if it will be any good is still in the air. |
| 02:27.03 | KarlKFI|work | mmofps, eh |
| 02:27.08 | Xuerian | Not really.. |
| 02:27.56 | Xuerian | Only MMO in the fact that your character is persistent and matches are for a reason. The whole "world", including in-game communication and currency is shared with the EVE universe. |
| 02:28.12 | Dagmar | Interesting |
| 02:28.35 | Xuerian | Yeah, it's the .. cough.. planetside.. part of it. On that note, anyone else really looking forward to Planetside 2? |
| 02:28.45 | Dagmar | heh |
| 02:29.02 | Xyphoid | dust will be fascinating if they pull it off |
| 02:29.42 | KarlKFI|work | has any mmofps actually gotten any decent traction int he market? |
| 02:30.01 | Xuerian | Planetside did. |
| 02:30.01 | Arrowmaster | linking the economy of two different games sounds like its going to blowup |
| 02:30.34 | Xuerian | Arrowmaster: Definitely possible, but when most of it goes towards funding individual campaigns for the hiring corporations, it should work out if they do it right. You're the muscle, they're the money. |
| 02:31.09 | Xuerian | That and if console players can come to terms with the whole "It's not simple win-loose matches" deal |
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| 02:35.45 | TC-Work | i'm trying to set up a search string in bugzilla to only search for bugs created 'today'. Anyone know how to do that? |
| 02:36.00 | TC-Work | eg. whatever the current date is when you run the search |
| 02:37.03 | KarlKFI|work | last 1 day? |
| 02:37.53 | KarlKFI|work | there's a "Changed in the last X days" |
| 02:37.54 | TC-Work | no, from the begning of the day |
| 02:38.07 | TC-Work | i tried that but 'Now' to 'Now' didnt work |
| 02:38.28 | TC-Work | or rather 'Now' and 'Now' |
| 02:39.23 | KarlKFI|work | you could use Whining |
| 02:40.14 | TC-Work | huh? |
| 02:40.15 | KarlKFI|work | scratch that |
| 02:40.54 | TC-Work | i like the new job i have but man am i having to dredge up knowledge from the past |
| 02:42.23 | KarlKFI|work | oh |
| 02:42.33 | KarlKFI|work | you need to search between "today" and "now" |
| 02:42.33 | TC-Work | i found it |
| 02:42.43 | TC-Work | '0D' and 'Now' |
| 02:42.59 | Dagmar | I know that feeling |
| 02:43.02 | KarlKFI|work | "today" should be midnight this morning |
| 02:43.29 | Dagmar | We JUST put the last of our Sun boxes to sleep two months ago |
| 02:43.53 | TC-Work | KarlKFI|work: according to the help overlay, thats what 0D is |
| 02:44.00 | KarlKFI|work | that too |
| 02:44.09 | TC-Work | and 0H is begining of the hour etc. |
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| 03:08.00 | alestane | So, I was just giving a novice programmer some advice in another channel, and he just responded, "Thanks! This is actually exactly what I was looking for all day. I feel like I leveled up." |
| 03:08.33 | Cairenn | heh, nice |
| 03:08.52 | Xuerian | lol |
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| 03:25.10 | TC-Work | if i wanted to test a un/pw is there a way to do it via terminal? |
| 03:29.27 | durcyn | define test |
| 03:30.10 | mckenziemc | is this a test? |
| 03:34.31 | TC-Work | just to see if the un/pw work |
| 03:34.41 | TC-Work | as opposed to loging out and trying to log in with it |
| 03:42.37 | sintAcks | what's the /command to restart the graphics engine... |
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| 03:44.58 | durcyn | TC-Work: sudo -u <foo> would be one way. |
| 03:44.59 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:46.21 | Arrowmaster | durcyn: that probably wont work |
| 03:46.49 | durcyn | i seem to recall it prompted for the password of the target user last i bothered with it |
| 03:47.06 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: it does if i add a command at the end |
| 03:47.19 | Arrowmaster | durcyn: it depends completely on how sudo is configured |
| 03:47.34 | durcyn | bog standard defaults. |
| 03:47.47 | Arrowmaster | for me it asks for my password |
| 03:47.54 | Arrowmaster | not the users |
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| 04:02.08 | kd3 | yay! a level 29 diamond pick with fortune 2 / unbreaking 3 |
| 04:02.11 | kd3 | xp farm: worth it |
| 04:02.57 | Arrowmaster | minecraft? |
| 04:03.09 | Arrowmaster | or what? |
| 04:03.14 | kd3 | ya |
| 04:03.26 | pompy | is minecraft becoming an mmorpg or something? |
| 04:03.55 | kd3 | you get xp for killing mobs. use that xp to enchant tools (weapons) and armor |
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| 04:18.08 | Xuerian | Just using XP for enchants is certainly a interesting take on the normal grinding. |
| 04:23.33 | pompy | Arrowmaster: http://gamerant.com/xbox-dashboard-inferior-video-quality-tao-122280/ |
| 04:23.41 | Arrowmaster | yeah i saw that |
| 04:24.39 | pompy | i finished the batman arkham city story.. it was good. |
| 04:28.28 | Arrowmaster | and the video quality thing is that the reference level setting is broken and only one of them is being used |
| 04:29.02 | Cairenn | I'm presuming this has already been linked in here today: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/20/technology/apple-wins-partial-victory-on-patent-claim-over-android-features.html?_r=2&smid=tw-nytimes&seid=auto |
| 04:42.14 | pompy | Cairenn: nope, you are the first to link that today, the other one linked today was http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111213/02292717063/apple-abuses-patent-system-again-to-obstruct-w3c-open-standard.shtml |
| 04:45.34 | Dagmar | Oh lewk. Evil. |
| 04:47.51 | Arrowmaster | too bad Shirik only works on unarmed drones |
| 04:48.05 | Arrowmaster | id ask him to redecorate their lawn, or their parking lot |
| 04:48.15 | Shirik | oh |
| 04:48.18 | Shirik | I have news article to show you |
| 04:48.19 | Shirik | it's epic |
| 04:51.00 | karl_w_w | is there pink wrapping paper in game? |
| 04:51.14 | karl_w_w | dont think there is :( |
| 04:51.28 | pompy | http://www.wowhead.com/search?q=wrapping+paper |
| 04:51.30 | pompy | nope |
| 04:53.28 | mckenziemc | so where's this news article Shirik |
| 04:53.54 | Shirik | http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2017034417_dronesecrets17.html |
| 04:56.57 | Arrowmaster | isnt the ScanEagle one of the ones you worked on |
| 05:03.55 | Dagmar | Lame. |
| 05:04.06 | Dagmar | They should have given it to Kotaku. Then we'd see a proper teardown. |
| 05:09.43 | pompy | http://gamerant.com/minicraft-new-game-minecraft-creator-notch-dyce-122307/ |
| 05:21.48 | karl_w_w | what the |
| 05:22.03 | karl_w_w | is there some setting that hides the mouse cursor from screenshots? |
| 05:23.10 | karl_w_w | in other news im pissed off that u cant wrap unique items |
| 05:23.34 | karl_w_w | and im confused that the amani dragonhawk is unique |
| 05:25.20 | kd3 | wth? http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/australia/6163633/Qantas-terror-blamed-on-computer |
| 05:27.06 | Thunder_Child | and that is the reason they tell you to stay belted when seated |
| 05:27.33 | Xuerian | "Plunging 400ft in 15 seconds", is it just me or is that really not that steep for a airliner.. |
| 05:28.37 | Arrowmaster | if they are being flung around the cabin its steep enough to cause negative Gs |
| 05:29.03 | Dagmar | That's why you TURN YOUR PHONE OFF |
| 05:29.11 | Thunder_Child | "n a strange coincidence, all three sensor malfunction events occurred on Qantas flights off the coast of Western Australia." creepy |
| 05:29.22 | Thunder_Child | in* |
| 05:29.39 | Arrowmaster | what im wondering is why it says the autopilot disengaged and then the plane nosedived |
| 05:29.48 | Arrowmaster | is it a fly-by-wire system? |
| 05:29.54 | kd3 | http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/2008/aair/ao-2008-070.aspx |
| 05:29.59 | kd3 | full report is there |
| 05:30.48 | Xuerian | One error in 28 million hours, not bad at all.. |
| 05:30.58 | Xuerian | Or rather, one situation it couldn't handle |
| 05:34.57 | Xuerian | Nice site for a government site, too. |
| 05:39.58 | Dagmar | Stupid islands. |
| 05:42.03 | karl_w_w | where has my /print gone |
| 05:42.29 | mckenziemc | isn't that from Ace? |
| 05:43.13 | karl_w_w | i think so but the only addons ive changed are xloot and recount |
| 05:43.52 | Xuerian | XLoot (0.9) had Ace2. 1.0, which you're testing, does not |
| 05:44.07 | karl_w_w | :( |
| 05:44.09 | Xuerian | ./dump should work |
| 05:44.13 | mckenziemc | i wish blizz would add than one as a builtin (since it can be more useful than /dump at times) |
| 05:44.18 | mckenziemc | add that one* |
| 05:44.47 | karl_w_w | so i no longer have an addon that uses ace2 |
| 05:44.51 | karl_w_w | a sad day has come |
| 05:44.56 | Xuerian | karl_w_w: Snag the "XLoot (Plugin dummy)" on curse, it'll have Ace2 (urgh) and will support the plugins |
| 05:45.26 | Xuerian | s/support/allow you to use the old/ |
| 05:46.22 | karl_w_w | i didnt use any plugins before :P |
| 05:46.51 | Xuerian | Well, it'll get you ace2 and won't do much else then :p |
| 05:47.07 | Xuerian | Alternately I think you can just download ace2 separately, which would make more sense |
| 05:47.40 | Xuerian | I feel a bit dirty suggesting all this, as I'd like to be as far away from it at this point as possible, but eh |
| 05:48.03 | karl_w_w | maybe i'll just put /print in one of my own addons :P |
| 05:48.20 | mckenziemc | just get Ace3 >< |
| 05:48.30 | mckenziemc | unless i'm mistaken about it having /print |
| 05:48.44 | Xuerian | Duno, does AceConsole-3 provide it? |
| 05:49.04 | karl_w_w | i would be even more surprised if i dont have something that uses ace 3 |
| 05:49.13 | Xuerian | (So would I, really) |
| 05:50.02 | karl_w_w | yeah tomtom uses ace 3 |
| 05:51.14 | karl_w_w | and i have an addon that has aceconsole-3 in it as well :P |
| 05:53.31 | karl_w_w | in aceconsole-3: local frame = select(1, ...) |
| 05:53.39 | karl_w_w | redundancy winner! |
| 05:53.40 | pompy | kd3: "The aircraft manufacturer [Airbus] subsequently reviewed and improved its [flight computer] algorithms," investigators said, and the revised software was installed in November 2009. " .. how nice of them |
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| 07:15.28 | bluspacecow | framexml? |
| 07:15.35 | bluspacecow | <_< |
| 07:15.37 | bluspacecow | >_> |
| 07:15.40 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 07:15.55 | airtonix | umad |
| 07:16.12 | bluspacecow | nope |
| 07:17.08 | airtonix | bluspacecow: would you help me send 135,342 kittens to karl_w_ws doorstep? |
| 07:17.17 | bluspacecow | yes |
| 07:17.29 | karl_w_w | woo |
| 07:17.39 | bluspacecow | i donka dem ova da head and make them flat to it in the envelopers bet ta ? |
| 07:17.50 | airtonix | no |
| 07:17.53 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:17.59 | bluspacecow | oh |
| 07:18.09 | airtonix | these will be sent COD, one cat per cage |
| 07:18.22 | bluspacecow | i donka u ova da heads to fit in envelope then ? |
| 07:18.35 | airtonix | well |
| 07:18.35 | mckenziemc | den* |
| 07:18.42 | bluspacecow | why 135,342 ? |
| 07:19.00 | airtonix | it's a realistic number |
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| 07:19.26 | airtonix | if i simply said 100,000 it wouldn't look authentic |
| 07:19.43 | airtonix | customs might get suspicious |
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| 07:23.21 | bluspacecow | oh |
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| 09:09.47 | karl_w_w | wolfram alpha is so good |
| 09:10.07 | karl_w_w | need to know the density of condensed milk? no problem! |
| 09:10.41 | nevcairiel | its good for fun stuff, but always when i needed to know something real, it failed me |
| 09:10.46 | haste | it can even play music, but so can google now |
| 09:11.09 | haste | (or was it just graphs google did now :D) |
| 09:11.18 | nevcairiel | google does graphs now |
| 09:11.26 | nevcairiel | but maybe it can also play music! |
| 09:11.46 | haste | Graphs I was certain about, but not so much synths |
| 09:33.43 | Cairenn | http://failblog.org/2011/12/19/epic-win-photos-win-completely-relevant-news-clever-charity-win/ |
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| 11:29.58 | karl_w_w | oh look at that, we have dead madness |
| 11:30.06 | karl_w_w | guess it was too easy compared to spine |
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| 11:58.46 | airtonix | http://i.imgur.com/GCJ2S.png |
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| 12:01.43 | BlackNet | am shocked it was not the 2nd week :) |
| 12:02.00 | Xuerian | .. I should not be writing things this early. I start abstracting my abstractions, recursively. |
| 12:02.39 | Xuerian | Or recursively abstracting things.. *ponder* |
| 12:02.59 | airtonix | recursivel being mad? |
| 12:03.39 | Xuerian | Well, while I was doing it I thought it was pretty snazzy, then I took a step back and was slightly horrified |
| 12:05.17 | BlackNet | so that's like the department of redundancy department |
| 12:05.24 | Xuerian | Pretty much. |
| 12:07.10 | BlackNet | while true do print ('In Soviet Russia, Infinity loops YOU YOU!!') end |
| 12:07.29 | Xuerian | setmetatable(table, { __ index = table }) |
| 12:07.30 | airtonix | i think you caused an exception |
| 12:07.43 | BlackNet | try it and see |
| 12:07.51 | BlackNet | worst case you have to hit the reset button :) |
| 12:08.14 | Xuerian | I was so gleeful when I finally got a dual core. I didn't have to restart every time things froze... /random |
| 12:08.32 | BlackNet | nested infinity loops FTW |
| 12:08.59 | airtonix | are they? |
| 12:09.18 | airtonix | i think i might send you a shipment of kittens BlackNet |
| 12:09.45 | airtonix | the catch is you're not allowed to open the box |
| 12:09.46 | BlackNet | sure |
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| 12:14.36 | airtonix | hey Fisker, you remember that movie trainspotting, where the guy DIES FROM KITTENS!! |
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| 12:54.43 | airtonix | this is awsome : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKUDTPbDhnA |
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| 13:03.34 | Adys | if (!json || !json.type || json.left || json.top) { |
| 13:03.40 | Adys | it took me TWO DAYS to fix this bug. |
| 13:04.28 | nevcairiel | what bug? |
| 13:04.37 | Adys | two missing ! |
| 13:05.11 | nevcairiel | its not really obvious that they should be there from all the context you've been offering |
| 13:05.22 | Adys | yeah I know |
| 13:05.59 | Adys | the condition kept triggering and i went wtf every time |
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| 13:56.59 | Lopeppeppy | Baby, it's cold outside. |
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| 13:57.48 | sylvanaar_work | heres a question, are state pattern objects model or view or both? |
| 13:58.00 | sylvanaar_work | im having trouble deciding |
| 13:58.24 | sylvanaar_work | meh |
| 13:58.28 | sylvanaar_work | model or controller |
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| 14:03.07 | Lunessa | station |
| 14:03.19 | Lopeppeppy | Holp. |
| 14:07.18 | karl_w_w | is there a 4000 point cap on valor? o.O |
| 14:07.25 | karl_w_w | cos it's not actually mentioned anywhere |
| 14:07.41 | Lunessa | There is, and it's on the LFD screen. |
| 14:07.56 | Lunessa | Or on the tooltip once you have some valor. |
| 14:08.16 | karl_w_w | they are the weekly cap |
| 14:08.52 | Lunessa | Pretty much all the points currencies cap at 4000 - though ones like Honor and Justice don't seem to have a weekly cap, just how much you can have saved up. |
| 14:08.59 | Stanzilla | there is no 4000 points cap on valor |
| 14:09.25 | Stanzilla | valor is capped at 1000 per week but you can have as much as you want |
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| 14:14.27 | nevcairiel | yes you can, but saving valor has no advantage |
| 14:14.35 | nevcairiel | because once new gear arrives, valor gets converted |
| 14:15.07 | karl_w_w | saving valor does have an advantage :P |
| 14:15.12 | nevcairiel | which is? |
| 14:15.17 | airtonix | kittens? |
| 14:16.13 | karl_w_w | if you arent raiding atm cos it's christmas or whatever, but still doing lfr, by saving your valor you dont upgrade slots that might get a half-upgrade in lfr :P |
| 14:16.21 | Lunessa | Buying a complete set at once? |
| 14:16.57 | nevcairiel | 4000 valor is 4 weeks, how long do you have raiding break for |
| 14:17.04 | Lunessa | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/kirin-tor/Unkle/advanced I got new axes this week. |
| 14:18.26 | airtonix | a Prada Axe |
| 14:18.34 | airtonix | you glam |
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| 14:19.17 | Stanzilla | http://media.wowfan.cz/wordfirst/Dragon_Soul/Madness_of_Deathwing/kill.png |
| 14:19.23 | Stanzilla | find the gm :D |
| 14:19.32 | Lopeppeppy | Sexy in your shirt there. |
| 14:19.39 | airtonix | hey Stanzilla |
| 14:19.43 | airtonix | ur ui is bad |
| 14:19.47 | Stanzilla | hey airtonix |
| 14:19.48 | Stanzilla | it's not |
| 14:19.58 | airtonix | i'll be the judge of that |
| 14:19.59 | karl_w_w | airtonix where's my damn kittens |
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| 14:20.20 | karl_w_w | well first week i only had 1000 obviously, second week i missed i dont even remember why now, 3rd week we didnt raid cos a few people werent around, and this week our raid day is christmas eve |
| 14:20.20 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: It's a smexy shirt indeed. |
| 14:20.30 | karl_w_w | so next week i'll be over 4000 |
| 14:20.45 | airtonix | hey wait |
| 14:20.54 | nevcairiel | if you go by that logic, spending valor is always wrong |
| 14:20.56 | airtonix | do factions mean nothing now? |
| 14:21.02 | nevcairiel | because the next weeks raid could drop an item in that slot! |
| 14:21.10 | airtonix | Stanzilla: you are a cheater |
| 14:21.16 | karl_w_w | that's faulty logic nev |
| 14:21.23 | Stanzilla | airtonix: why |
| 14:21.29 | nevcairiel | no its not, you always risk that |
| 14:21.32 | karl_w_w | because in most situations the upgrade would be useful for that week's raiding |
| 14:22.00 | karl_w_w | on no occasion in my specific situation have i not had an upgrade that i could have had for a raid |
| 14:22.12 | nevcairiel | you still feel cheated if buy a item today and next wednesday you see a drop on the same slot |
| 14:22.31 | airtonix | Stanzilla: why are there alliance and horde in same picture |
| 14:22.35 | airtonix | Stanzilla: cheaters |
| 14:22.37 | karl_w_w | that's just the way it is |
| 14:22.51 | Stanzilla | airtonix: O.o |
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| 14:23.30 | airtonix | oh those are dogs not cows |
| 14:23.38 | airtonix | they have the same posture |
| 14:26.07 | airtonix | karl_w_w: maybe they ended up like this monitor : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKUDTPbDhnA |
| 14:27.37 | Lunessa | nevcairiel: You're a server dude for Curse, no? |
| 14:27.49 | nevcairiel | no |
| 14:27.55 | nevcairiel | I have nothing to do with curse |
| 14:27.59 | nevcairiel | I just take their money |
| 14:28.09 | Lunessa | This is why I should sleep later… |
| 14:28.31 | airtonix | nevcairiel: League of Evil Gentlemen? |
| 14:30.38 | AcidWeb | http://govindtiwari.blogspot.com/ |
| 14:30.43 | AcidWeb | dies |
| 14:30.57 | nevcairiel | what the hell |
| 14:31.04 | nevcairiel | thats worse then the internet in the 90s |
| 14:31.08 | airtonix | umad? |
| 14:31.30 | airtonix | ohsi.. |
| 14:31.48 | Lopeppeppy | The blinking is damn creepy |
| 14:31.57 | nevcairiel | the guy is damn creepy |
| 14:31.57 | airtonix | i wonder if pakistahn is full of this |
| 14:32.41 | airtonix | this is what happens when you government bans you from w3c.org and alistapart |
| 14:42.13 | karl_w_w | haha u cant right click on that page |
| 14:42.59 | karl_w_w | http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fgovindtiwari.blogspot.com%2F |
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| 14:56.27 | karl_w_w | airtonix: when these kittens arrive can I train them to claw reece mastin to death? |
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| 14:57.34 | airtonix | they aren't sihk |
| 14:57.50 | airtonix | so no curved swords |
| 14:57.57 | airtonix | no wrapped headware |
| 14:58.20 | airtonix | just lots of vomit, fur and you cleaning up the carpet to remove brown stains |
| 14:58.55 | airtonix | so if i estimate at least one missed kitty litter appointment per 5 mins |
| 15:00.45 | airtonix | i don't see you having time for much else other than buying new scrubiing brushes |
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| 15:02.34 | foxlit | cuuuuuuuurseeeeee :( |
| 15:02.40 | foxlit | stop leaking my email address :( |
| 15:05.50 | Lunessa | You know… when I ask a simple question… via email about a problem printer (what room is it in?) I really don't expect to get back, "I don't know" when EVERY ROOM on the campus has the number on the door or door frame. |
| 15:06.27 | Lunessa | Fucking people piss me off. |
| 15:06.28 | airtonix | Lunessa: sharp knives |
| 15:06.41 | airtonix | clean them when you're done |
| 15:07.36 | foxlit | Lunessa: you might as well be asking "what color is the outer frame of the door of the room you're in now?" -- people filter out things that are irrelevant to them |
| 15:07.44 | Lunessa | Seriously - you walk into this room 50-60 times a day and you can't look at the goddamned number plate on the door? Fine, you go to the bottom of the queue and a tech will get to you when they have time to wander around your building looking for a printer you won't identify. |
| 15:09.58 | airtonix | i would assing a uniqeuly creepy person to make a room their bedroom |
| 15:10.12 | airtonix | and ask, are you in the room with the 400 pound bear? |
| 15:10.43 | airtonix | who is cooking tandoori |
| 15:11.24 | Lunessa | I think I'll just repeat the mantra "vacation starts Thursday evening" until I feel serene and not at all murder-y. |
| 15:11.37 | airtonix | i would like to see the news report |
| 15:11.47 | Torhal|work | Lunessa: Perhaps you should invest in a pair of Uzi submachineguns. |
| 15:11.51 | Torhal|work | Or thermite. |
| 15:12.09 | Lunessa | Torhal|work: Thermite can be made at home. |
| 15:12.13 | Torhal|work | :D |
| 15:12.24 | airtonix | time you spend making is a good investment |
| 15:17.46 | mikma | no, the time you spend using |
| 15:19.32 | airtonix | mikma: cocaine? |
| 15:19.56 | mikma | yes, you can use that |
| 15:20.15 | airtonix | thanks dad |
| 15:20.23 | mikma | have fun |
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| 15:22.44 | Lunessa | Riding that train, out of cocaine. Casey Jones you'd better watch your speed. |
| 15:23.00 | Torhal|work | Trouble ahead, trouble behind. |
| 15:23.18 | Lunessa | :D |
| 15:23.52 | Torhal|work | So you're saying the usage of thermite crossed your mind? |
| 15:24.20 | Lunessa | More than once. |
| 15:27.27 | Lunessa | Some days I feel like the villain in Zoolander - the only one who has noticed that the world is stupid, vain and crazy - and I just want to scream. |
| 15:28.14 | Grum | maybe stop working as support? ;) |
| 15:29.13 | Lunessa | Maybe. But programming wasn't much better. |
| 15:30.09 | Torhal|work | Yet the word "better" does exist therein. |
| 15:30.51 | airtonix | i have faith in you, i know you can do it |
| 15:31.13 | Torhal|work | Grum: Wait, what? You're back in the land of the WoW-folks? |
| 15:31.45 | Lunessa | Yeah, as much as I hate to think it, it looks increasingly like time to find a new gig. |
| 15:31.58 | Grum | Torhal|work: euh i never went anywhere :p |
| 15:32.01 | Grum | idling for years now! |
| 15:32.04 | Torhal|work | Hah |
| 15:32.12 | Grum | though i did recently stop playing :( |
| 15:32.12 | Torhal|work | How was Mojang? |
| 15:32.18 | Grum | cold! |
| 15:32.30 | Grum | we had cold wind, rain and wet snow! :D |
| 15:32.36 | Torhal|work | Hehe |
| 15:32.38 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 15:32.38 | Grum | but mostly fun :) |
| 15:33.13 | Grum | did some talking, more talking then some cobalt playing and more talking :) |
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| 15:57.08 | Torhal|work | Grum: How badly did Jeb kick your ass? |
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| 16:05.32 | Fisker | hey Torhal|work |
| 16:05.34 | Fisker | not so hey airtonix |
| 16:05.48 | Torhal|work | Fiskernaut! |
| 16:09.02 | BlueAckisFishMan | hmmm I left a candle lit last night... my bad |
| 16:09.07 | BlueAckisFishMan | ps: glad to see you're alive Torhal|work |
| 16:09.51 | Torhal|work | BlueAckisFishMan: Your IRC name is retarded, BTW. |
| 16:09.52 | Torhal|work | :D |
| 16:10.23 | BlueAckisFishMan | why are you hating on my name? I was adopted! |
| 16:10.44 | Torhal|work | Suuuure. |
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| 16:17.23 | kullervo | Torhal|work: you have redundant information in your name |
| 16:17.52 | Torhal|work | o.O |
| 16:18.06 | Torhal|work | kullervo: Howso? |
| 16:18.09 | kullervo | just set yourself as away or something, people who care about you being at work will know |
| 16:18.16 | Torhal|work | kullervo: O |
| 16:18.18 | Lopeppeppy | No, sometimes Torhal is in the shower with bluspacecow. |
| 16:18.38 | Torhal|work | kullervo: Allow me to point to Torhal, who is me on my computer at home. |
| 16:18.45 | Torhal|work | This is me on my computer at work. |
| 16:18.48 | Lopeppeppy | Sometimes he's in the attic with me. It's important to know his location at all times, so I can send the zombie minions to the right place. |
| 16:18.51 | Torhal|work | Therefore, not redundant. |
| 16:18.52 | kullervo | basically, set up a proper client solution |
| 16:19.34 | Torhal|work | Are you seriously bothered about the fact that I don't use BNC? |
| 16:19.35 | airtonix | umadfisker? |
| 16:19.36 | Torhal|work | o.O |
| 16:19.45 | kullervo | local clients are heresy! |
| 16:19.52 | Torhal|work | Bah! |
| 16:20.07 | kullervo | (and bouncers are only slightly better) |
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| 16:21.40 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:23.16 | Lunessa | Local clients are not heresy, they are the true path to enlightenment. And EMACS is STILL better than Vi. |
| 16:23.24 | Dagmar | No. |
| 16:24.13 | Dagmar | I use an email client with a text editor, not a text editor with an email client in it. |
| 16:25.25 | Dagmar | Eventually, and this is really only a matter of time, someone will cobble just one last function into Emacs and it will be able to run itself. |
| 16:25.44 | Lopeppeppy | Pine is not elm |
| 16:25.48 | Lunessa | I for one welcome our Skynet Overlord. |
| 16:25.52 | Dagmar | I only hope the resulting collapse of local space-time fabric won't destroy too many homes. |
| 16:30.22 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:30.26 | Fisker | wood is wood |
| 16:30.34 | Fisker | shows Lopeppeppy his wood |
| 16:31.02 | Torhal|work | hands Lopeppeppy a flame-thrower. |
| 16:31.11 | Lopeppeppy | No, Fisker, it most certainly is not. |
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| 16:50.04 | Lunessa | Fisker: You should gather that and trade it for bricks or sheep. |
| 16:52.37 | Lopeppeppy | Or a bridge in Arizona |
| 16:52.42 | Fisker | man |
| 16:52.49 | Fisker | those terra nova guys are stupid as fuck |
| 16:52.56 | Fisker | lets make biodomes and put factories in them |
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| 16:56.50 | Kraps_w | lol Fisker |
| 17:03.07 | Lunessa | http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/plugged-in/2011/12/19/north-korea-by-night-photograph/ - This is pretty hard-hitting. |
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| 17:32.50 | Fisker | how so Lunessa ? |
| 17:35.14 | Lunessa | North Korea compared to South Korea - that's what nearly 70 years of oppression will do to your economic freedom. |
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| 17:48.37 | Lopeppeppy | Holp! I'm being repressed! |
| 17:50.13 | Lunessa | represses Lopeppeppy with cultural requirements and wide-spread unconscious prejudices. |
| 17:50.32 | Kraps_w | agh Lunessa that pic |
| 17:50.35 | Lopeppeppy | Heh-heh. He said "spread" |
| 17:51.00 | Lunessa | shouldn't have hyphenated it, but the pun would have been missed otherwise. |
| 17:53.30 | Lopeppeppy | I have a dirty mind, am I capable of missing it? |
| 17:55.32 | TC-Work | creepy that 'unconscious' is right after it |
| 17:56.06 | Lunessa | TC-Work: perhaps subconscious would have been a better choice? |
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| 18:02.11 | Adys | is there a way to forward environment variables (namely, $SHELL) when connecting to a host? |
| 18:02.15 | Adys | or, to specify a custom shell to use |
| 18:02.41 | nevcairiel | the shell is defined for the user |
| 18:02.43 | Adys | the host im trying to connect to has a shell that doesn't exist |
| 18:02.55 | nevcairiel | you cannot override it |
| 18:03.31 | nevcairiel | thats actually a security measure, as people set that to /bin/false or /sbin/nologin |
| 18:03.35 | Arrowmaster | and it would be a bad idea to use the $SHELL of the connecting host, for security and because they might not have a shell |
| 18:03.49 | Arrowmaster | might not have the same shells installed |
| 18:04.25 | Adys | nevcairiel: why would someone do that but leave ssh access on for an user? oO |
| 18:05.00 | Arrowmaster | they wouldnt, because if the shell is /bin/false then ssh will fail when they try to get a shell |
| 18:05.20 | nevcairiel | ssh access is basically "off" if there is no shell |
| 18:05.28 | nevcairiel | if you cannot login, you cannot login |
| 18:05.32 | nevcairiel | not through any means |
| 18:05.39 | Arrowmaster | might be different for ssh using predefined commands in authorized_keys |
| 18:05.52 | Adys | Arrowmaster: how so? |
| 18:06.19 | Adys | nevcairiel: so you mean its to also prevent users from logging in locally? |
| 18:06.21 | Arrowmaster | im just saying it might but, im not sure |
| 18:06.22 | Adys | seems a bit redundant |
| 18:06.44 | nevcairiel | having such a shell does prevent local login, indeed |
| 18:06.55 | nevcairiel | its mostly used for system users, however |
| 18:07.15 | Arrowmaster | if a user cant get a local shell then they cant get a shell through ssh, would you really prefer to have to change things in two places to lock out a user |
| 18:07.19 | Adys | Arrowmaster: i mean, what do you mean "predefined commands in authkeys" |
| 18:07.40 | Arrowmaster | Adys: using the "command" option in authkeys |
| 18:07.41 | nevcairiel | you can define in authorized_keys that a user can only run a certain command |
| 18:07.48 | nevcairiel | thats basically used for ssh svn/git access |
| 18:08.03 | Arrowmaster | well a key can only execute one command |
| 18:08.10 | Arrowmaster | and the command is automatically executed |
| 18:08.14 | Adys | neat, didnt know that |
| 18:08.44 | Arrowmaster | theres also an sshd option that root can not login through ssh but they can use predefined commands in authkeys |
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| 18:10.14 | nevcairiel | my gitosis hosted git thing for example has a setup like this: command="gitosis-serve <account-here>",no-port-forwarding,no-X11-forwarding,no-agent-forwarding,no-pty ssh-rsa AAA.......... |
| 18:10.19 | nevcairiel | quite handy feature |
| 18:10.46 | Arrowmaster | its the same for any of them basically |
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| 18:13.16 | TC-Work | I have mixed feelings about Ben Kingsley as Mazer Rackham |
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| 18:13.40 | bluspacecow | ender's game ? |
| 18:13.43 | TC-Work | yes |
| 18:13.46 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: I can haz new kitteh! |
| 18:13.55 | bluspacecow | thought i recognized it |
| 18:13.59 | bluspacecow | yay new kitteh |
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| 18:23.02 | BlueAckisFishMan | hi dad |
| 18:23.10 | BlueAckisFishMan | Torhal|work doesn't believe you adopted me bluspacecow |
| 18:23.22 | bluspacecow | hi son |
| 18:23.36 | Lunessa | getting creepy up in here. |
| 18:23.39 | bluspacecow | well it does not bode well to tell someone they've been adopted usually |
| 18:26.36 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtEKEKcZ3jw&feature=player_embedded |
| 18:31.07 | Lunessa | Hello ladies: Enjoy reading this interesting article about the greatest foodstuff ever… CHOCOLATE. http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2011/12/choc-science/all/1 |
| 18:34.02 | Cairenn | Lunessa: :) |
| 18:36.10 | Torhal|work | bluspacecow: You made Ackis even weirder than normal. How did you manage this feat? |
| 18:38.29 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=awHWColYQ90#t=0m21 << the video is a bit odd :/ |
| 18:39.10 | TC-Work | Torhal|work: bluspacecow juice |
| 18:40.16 | Torhal|work | TC-Work: TMI? |
| 18:41.28 | bluspacecow | @torhal by adopting him of course. |
| 18:43.16 | Torhal|work | I'm not sure who the brave one is in that scenerio. |
| 18:44.57 | Lunessa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKb1IeovH60 |
| 18:47.21 | bluspacecow | kk later guys gotta run to bus |
| 18:47.47 | Fisker | holy fucking shit |
| 18:47.51 | Fisker | red orchestra is terrible |
| 19:01.47 | Lunessa | mmmmm… chicago style hotdog with all the trimmings |
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| 19:04.13 | Lopeppeppy | Holy crap they broke the heat. |
| 19:04.54 | Lunessa | Now they are baking the Lopeppeppy to a nice golden brown? |
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| 19:05.15 | Lopeppeppy | No. Peppy popsicles. |
| 19:05.51 | Lunessa | Ah - they roasted us for 4 hours this morning, then turned off all the ventilation systems |
| 19:06.18 | Lopeppeppy | Holy crap, I want to go take a shower to warm up. |
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| 19:11.16 | kd3 | ugh; I think it's time to switch to a new bank. http://pastebin.com/1Mfeyu9q |
| 19:16.14 | Maldivia | heh |
| 19:17.24 | Fisker | kd3 |
| 19:17.43 | kd3 | yep? |
| 19:17.51 | Maldivia | I like this better then - Interest on credit balance: 3.100 % |
| 19:18.00 | Fisker | you should switch bank to the federal reserve |
| 19:18.03 | Fisker | or whatever you call it |
| 19:18.34 | Fisker | 0.01% interest on loans and 3% interest rate on your deposits |
| 19:18.36 | Fisker | :3 |
| 19:18.48 | Lopeppeppy | Awww, you get interest! |
| 19:19.14 | kd3 | that's my "high performance savings" account |
| 19:20.11 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, add some turbo. |
| 19:21.31 | kd3 | wow at kepler |
| 19:21.51 | kd3 | wasn't quite expecting earth-sized planets before the end of the year, but 2 in the same system? |
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| 19:23.45 | BlueAckisFishMan | Fisker: There seems to have been an error initializing or updating your transaction. Please wait a minute and try again or contact support for assistance. :( |
| 19:34.51 | Fisker | owned BlueAckisFishMan |
| 19:34.57 | Fisker | i hope you never get support or assistance |
| 19:36.51 | BlueAckisFishMan | O |
| 19:36.54 | BlueAckisFishMan | why? |
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| 19:56.02 | Xuerian | Why.. why did I read poppy testicles |
| 19:56.10 | Xuerian | rubs his eyes. |
| 19:57.29 | Lopeppeppy | Hooooo-kay. Put down the crack pipe and go see a doctor. |
| 19:58.09 | Xuerian | "Peppy popsicles" "Poppy testicles"... pretty close, shape-wise. Pretty much the same thing too. (ha ha ha I made a joke) |
| 19:59.15 | Lopeppeppy | Nuh uh. Poppies are much smaller than Peppies, even if I'm not all that tall. |
| 20:00.04 | Kraps_w | test tickles |
| 20:00.09 | Xuerian | Oh ho, I see what you did there, I meant the word shape, and you implied the other shape... Pulling things over on me while I'm sleepy =| |
| 20:00.14 | Kraps_w | for science |
| 20:02.43 | Fisker | i hate you BlueAckisFishMan |
| 20:03.26 | Lunessa | And please, try to be honest, it's for science. |
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| 20:19.33 | BlueAckisFishMan | what did I do to you Fisker? |
| 20:19.43 | Fisker | no BlueAckisFishMan |
| 20:21.25 | Xuerian | The question is not what did you do to Fisker |
| 20:21.35 | Xuerian | But what Fisker can do for you! |
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| 20:22.56 | Lunessa | Fisker can use up needed oxygen and type drivel into forums. Not much use on even a local scale. |
| 20:23.24 | Kraps_w | ohhhhh |
| 20:23.34 | Kraps_w | you gonna take that Fisker? |
| 20:24.37 | Lopeppeppy | He's too busy breathing. |
| 20:24.40 | Fisker | in the butt Kraps_w |
| 20:24.50 | BlueAckisFishMan | Fisker: did you use a save game for psyconaughts? |
| 20:24.52 | Kraps_w | suit yourself |
| 20:28.22 | Cairenn | Oh UGH! I hope this extended weather warning turns out to be wrong - they're saying we're going to get 6+ hours of freezing rain tomorrow. |
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| 20:29.29 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... stupid pre-holiday storm. |
| 20:29.32 | kd3 | ick |
| 20:29.35 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn, did you fetch the kitty? |
| 20:29.39 | Cairenn | yar! |
| 20:29.52 | Lopeppeppy | Wheeee! |
| 20:29.53 | Cairenn | Got her last night - she was still there, thank heavens |
| 20:30.12 | Cairenn | I would have been PISSED if she wasn't. |
| 20:30.21 | Lopeppeppy | Did some killing of people if she weren't. |
| 20:30.26 | Cairenn | Yeah |
| 20:30.45 | Lopeppeppy | I'm glad. Every cat deserves a stubborn and determined human. |
| 20:30.58 | Cairenn | I'm still writing their head office and telling them what I think about the whole fiasco, but it'll be marginally more polite than it might have been |
| 20:31.45 | Kraps_w | what happened? |
| 20:31.49 | Lopeppeppy | 24 hour hold isn't all that horrible a policy, really , how hard is it? |
| 20:32.00 | Cairenn | Hell, 4 hour, which is all I was asking for |
| 20:32.38 | Kraps_w | Cairenn: what happened with kitty |
| 20:32.49 | Cairenn | Kraps: just stupid 'store policy' which could have meant that someone else may have been able to get her before me |
| 20:33.21 | Lopeppeppy | They don't do any kind of holds at all - not even "pay for her now, come back to get her tomorrow" |
| 20:34.06 | Lopeppeppy | Ask for a 50% non-refundable deposit to put in place a 24 hour hold. How hard is that? Only people who are serious will do it. |
| 20:34.31 | Cairenn | Their policies make sense to a certain degree - but the combination of policies sucked. |
| 20:36.22 | Cairenn | I don't currently have a vehicle, so I called and asked if they could put her 'oh hold' until the evening when I could borrow a vehicle to go get her, and got told, no, they don't do that |
| 20:37.03 | Cairenn | So, I hopped on a bus and went over to pay for her so they couldn't sell her to someone else, and ask them to keep her for a couple of hours until I could get the vehicle, since I couldn't take her on the bus |
| 20:37.10 | Cairenn | "Nope, can't do that." |
| 20:37.39 | Fisker | yes BlueAckisFishMan |
| 20:37.41 | Cairenn | Well then, can you hold her until I can come back over? It's pretty obvious I'm serious about getting her, it's not like I'm going to change my mind |
| 20:37.45 | Cairenn | "Nope, can't" |
| 20:37.51 | Cairenn | *SNARL* |
| 20:38.26 | Lopeppeppy | Makes me want to go and put poison ivy in their lunch sandwiches. |
| 20:38.45 | Lunessa | Acquire weapons lock, Mr. Sulu. You may fire when ready. |
| 20:39.16 | Kraps_w | make peas, not carrot |
| 20:39.21 | kullervo | o.O |
| 20:39.29 | Cairenn | lol |
| 20:40.35 | BlueAckisFishMan | Fisker: can you share it with me? |
| 20:40.41 | Fisker | no |
| 20:41.02 | TC-Work | Kraps_w: much easier to make corn |
| 20:41.22 | Lunessa | Cairenn: dost thou hast lithographs of said feline? |
| 20:41.32 | Cairenn | Not as of yet, sorry |
| 20:41.42 | Lopeppeppy | *le gasp* |
| 20:41.47 | Lopeppeppy | Did she hide? |
| 20:41.54 | Cairenn | Don't have a web cam |
| 20:42.10 | Cairenn | and daughter's digital needs charging |
| 20:42.18 | Lopeppeppy | Ah. |
| 20:42.24 | Xuerian | No cameraphone? >_> |
| 20:42.35 | Fisker | get it BlueAckisFishMan ? |
| 20:42.47 | Cairenn | yes camera on phone, no blue tooth on computer |
| 20:43.10 | Xuerian | Oh, no mass storage mode? |
| 20:43.36 | Lunessa | Cairenn is a telephonic luddite. Her phone has not yet embraced the modern miracle of "WiFi" |
| 20:43.52 | Xuerian | I figured :P |
| 20:44.09 | Cairenn | and our older cat is acting like a very grumpy old man - "get out of my house you young wippersnapper!" hiss growl hiss |
| 20:44.21 | BlueAckisFishMan | nope |
| 20:44.46 | Lopeppeppy | Hissing and growling are decent reactions. Bloodshed sucks. |
| 20:44.58 | Cairenn | Yep |
| 20:45.44 | Lunessa | Cats usually arrive at some sort of equilibrium. |
| 20:46.00 | Lopeppeppy | There will be chasings and smackings, but the lack of instant death is actually encouraging. |
| 20:46.01 | Cairenn | and, unlike Siren (who was hissing and growling right back when we got her), this little girl is doing the whole "here, see, here's my belly, I won't fight you for dominance" stuff |
| 20:46.16 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, awesome. If she's happy as beta, that's even better. |
| 20:46.21 | Cairenn | Yep |
| 20:46.26 | Cairenn | She isn't trying to be top cat |
| 20:46.45 | Cairenn | Probably in part because she's still basically a kitten (1 yr old) |
| 20:46.49 | Lopeppeppy | I work hard to be the top cat in my house. It's a daily struggle with cats. |
| 20:46.54 | Cairenn | Heh |
| 20:47.12 | ScytheBlade1 | lunessa: oh hai thar |
| 20:47.20 | Lunessa | Oh hai! |
| 20:48.11 | ScytheBlade1 | just saw that email... once I approve (when I'm at home) you'll be able to see how little I use social networking sites! |
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| 20:50.05 | Lunessa | Hahaha. I just added you from a contacts update this morning. |
| 20:50.44 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 20:50.51 | ScytheBlade1 | That makes sense |
| 20:53.59 | Lunessa | I decided to yank all the contacts out of Hotmail and my phone and consolidate them. Then since I was at it, I let Google+ look for other people from my contacts. :) |
| 20:54.38 | Raimondas | OK, so what in hell is HookKey32.dll? |
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| 20:54.54 | ScytheBlade1 | haha, gotcha |
| 20:55.07 | ScytheBlade1 | so it just went chewing through there |
| 20:55.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I have no idea to add you properly even |
| 20:55.30 | Raimondas | gah, wrong channel, ignore me |
| 20:55.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm supposed to make a circle? I think? |
| 20:55.38 | Lunessa | http://systemexplorer.net/db/hookkey32.dll.html |
| 20:56.21 | Lunessa | You're not required to do anything. But it's pretty easy to make "Circles" in Google+ - it's a drag & drop operation. |
| 20:56.50 | Lopeppeppy | hides from Lunessa's phone |
| 20:57.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I'll go poking later when I'm home |
| 20:57.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd rather not sign in from work... |
| 20:57.20 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Well you should. I named my phone Chango, after a god of destruction! |
| 20:58.01 | Lunessa | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shango |
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| 20:59.54 | Lopeppeppy | Mine is a bird, gonna eat you. |
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| 21:08.36 | Fisker | hail Ackis |
| 21:10.13 | TC-Work | http://zombieindustries.com/shop/chris-zombie/ |
| 21:10.27 | Fisker | TC-Work |
| 21:13.53 | Fisker | :( |
| 21:14.05 | Fisker | I'm like 14 games from having all of the games for the christmas sale |
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| 21:16.41 | Lunessa | http://www.somethingpositive.net/index.html - I did, in fact, laugh out loud. |
| 21:17.03 | Fisker | ok Lunessa |
| 21:17.06 | olafski | < Lunessa> Cairenn is a telephonic luddite. Her phone has not yet embraced the modern miracle of "WiFi" <-- *like :D |
| 21:17.12 | Cairenn | :p |
| 21:17.58 | mckenziemc | i don't even have an (active) telephone aside from my land line :( |
| 21:18.25 | olafski | I have a nokia 6200 |
| 21:18.34 | Lunessa | so you're a cellular luddite? |
| 21:19.30 | Lunessa | I don't have a land line, and I have no desire to get one. I've been using a mobile phone only for at least the last 10 years. |
| 21:19.31 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 21:19.49 | Cairenn | Lunessa: lol @ link |
| 21:19.49 | olafski | I have a land line because my girlfriend said we need one.. I never use it even when I'm at home |
| 21:20.21 | Lunessa | No one ever calls me anyway, and a land line would just be an added expense. |
| 21:20.51 | olafski | yer guess I am a cellular luddite :P I just don't see the point |
| 21:20.52 | Lopeppeppy | Wait until the telemarketers can call your cell. |
| 21:20.56 | Fisker | kiss me Ackis |
| 21:21.30 | alestane | Peppy, I get calls from recorded call centers on my cell all the time. |
| 21:21.43 | olafski | this 6 (7?) year old cell fits my requirements on a cell phone much better than any smart phone :> |
| 21:22.09 | Xyphoid | does it have a belt clip |
| 21:22.10 | alestane | A number pops up from Arizona and I hear a recording "This is an important message about your mortgage." |
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| 21:22.21 | alestane | Or "This is Rachel, from cardholder services." |
| 21:22.22 | Xyphoid | my old cell has a belt clip, so awesome |
| 21:22.32 | alestane | They never say whose cardholder services. |
| 21:23.00 | olafski | no belt clip here |
| 21:23.15 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: I'm on the National Do Not Call list for both my home and work cell. Too bad for me that politicians are exempted from that law and their robo-dialers are allowed to call me 17+ times a day. |
| 21:23.48 | olafski | boss offered me a smartphone + free data subscription, I declined, so now I have 2 "dumb" phones =) |
| 21:25.14 | Lunessa | Since Saturday I have 16 calls from some "unknown" number that never leaves a message. Since I don't owe anyone money, it has to be a robo-dialer. |
| 21:25.27 | olafski | whoa |
| 21:25.33 | olafski | I _never_ get called for that kind of stuff |
| 21:25.44 | Lopeppeppy | You're just lucky that way, olafski. |
| 21:25.47 | olafski | :P |
| 21:26.01 | olafski | I think it has more to do with me not being from/in the uS |
| 21:26.03 | olafski | US* |
| 21:26.27 | Lunessa | I'm pretty sure it is for some sort of political thing, but I don't ever answer it, and robo-dialers are not allowed to leave messages. |
| 21:26.37 | alestane | Our friend (Khyranda for those in GT) has a collection agency calling his number trying to hunt down his cousin's deadbeat ex-husband, and there's no force on Earth that can make them stop calling. |
| 21:26.47 | Lunessa | But it is starting to annoy me enormously. |
| 21:27.01 | olafski | cousin's ex husband.. sounds desperate :P |
| 21:27.57 | alestane | They have the same first initial and last name as his mother who used to live at that address. |
| 21:28.05 | olafski | ahh |
| 21:28.08 | Lunessa | That's how skip-tracing works. You beat the bushes all around someone's life, or past until you get what you're looking for. In the movies, these would be the scenes where they torture you high-school sweetheart to get the name of someone who knows where you are now. |
| 21:32.08 | Lopeppeppy | It's ugly for the people who work it, it's ugly for the people on the other end. Icky, icky. |
| 21:32.12 | Lopeppeppy | TTFN, happy peoples! |
| 21:32.20 | Cairenn | night Lopeppeppy |
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| 21:32.33 | Lunessa | ciao |
| 21:44.42 | alestane | Has DJ chilled out yet, Cairenn, or is he still complaining to mommy that there's a *cat* in his his house and once you start letting those in the whole place falls apart? |
| 21:44.54 | Cairenn | Oh, he's still a very grumpy old man |
| 21:45.11 | Cairenn | He is NOT at all happy about this |
| 21:45.46 | Cairenn | But luckily, she seems to be willing to let him be alpha cat, so hopefully he'll accept her quicker than he did Siren |
| 21:46.33 | alestane | Does she have a name yet? |
| 21:46.40 | Cairenn | No |
| 21:47.06 | Cairenn | Well, she's got the one she came with, but none of us like it and she's still young enough that changing it should be okay |
| 21:47.22 | alestane | Insofar as cats care what you call them in any case. |
| 21:47.27 | Cairenn | Indeed |
| 21:48.23 | bleeter | yeah, as long as you call them Boss, they don't really mind what nickname you give'em. |
| 21:50.02 | mckenziemc | you should call her Cat |
| 21:50.28 | Cairenn | at the moment she's getting "silly girl" most often |
| 21:51.16 | mckenziemc | my aunt's cat basically ended up getting the name "kitty" since they never decided on a real name for it |
| 21:51.33 | kullervo | sounds awfully boring |
| 21:56.49 | mckenziemc | i suspect that's what goes through cats' minds whenever you call their name, regardless of the name you use :P (unless it's for food!) |
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| 22:02.17 | kullervo | mckenziemc: I just whistle in a very high-pitched sound when i want the attention of my cats |
| 22:02.29 | kullervo | then they'll come to me and either look disinterested or purr |
| 22:02.35 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 22:04.25 | Lunessa | http://www.dinohoodie.com/gallery.rawr! |
| 22:04.53 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 22:09.35 | karl_w_w | somebody should tell these australian online retailers that there's this amazing thing called overnight delivery |
| 22:10.26 | bleeter | karl_w_w: have you ever tried to get overnight delivery from the big island to Tasmania? |
| 22:10.51 | karl_w_w | no, because nobody offers it :P |
| 22:10.53 | bleeter | karl_w_w: in my experience, overnight only works in the major cities |
| 22:11.48 | BlackNet | depend on where you are at most places can get overnight with no problem |
| 22:12.29 | bleeter | heck, even takes a standard letter 3 days to get from HBA to CBR |
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| 22:30.41 | karl_w_w | oh look sanity do express delivery |
| 22:30.48 | karl_w_w | they just dont mention it anywhere |
| 22:33.24 | bleeter | sanity still exist? |
| 22:34.17 | karl_w_w | sure |
| 22:34.32 | karl_w_w | i think they are called something else in places |
| 22:35.00 | bleeter | they closed most/all their shops down here. every one of them seems to have been replaced with a phone shop. or a bra shop. |
| 22:35.08 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 22:35.10 | bleeter | which I think says heaps about modern retail |
| 22:36.03 | karl_w_w | they opened one about 15 minutes away from me recently but it closed about 6 months later |
| 22:36.16 | karl_w_w | as did it's competitor in the same centre |
| 22:36.32 | karl_w_w | but there's still 2 about 15 minutes drive away |
| 22:37.39 | bleeter | I think there's one out at Bogan Central Shopping Centre, but I daren't go there |
| 22:38.00 | karl_w_w | bogan central? :P |
| 22:38.30 | bleeter | maybe not Bogan Central, possibly Northgoat |
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| 22:55.42 | kd3 | ooh. evil. I'd attempt this, but I'd like to live to next year... http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/daily-morning-awesomeness-124.jpg |
| 22:55.47 | Arrowmaster | grrr unskipable cutsceen |
| 22:57.00 | Cairenn | kd3: ! |
| 22:57.04 | Arrowmaster | grrrrr unskipable credits |
| 22:57.06 | Lunessa | kd3: It's pretty lame. |
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| 22:57.39 | Lunessa | the pops are muffled and sound about like rice krispies. Not that I'm admitting anything. |
| 22:57.49 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 23:11.03 | bleeter | hah |
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| 23:17.21 | Arrowmaster | pompy: i hit 45 completed games |
| 23:19.11 | kd3 | wow steam... 00% off? |
| 23:20.08 | Arrowmaster | on what? |
| 23:20.12 | Arrowmaster | i saw that yesterday on some things |
| 23:20.14 | kd3 | lego batman |
| 23:20.43 | Maldivia | it says -75% here |
| 23:21.00 | kullervo | JS glitch |
| 23:21.24 | kd3 | now that I'm logged in it says 75% too. it also said some games weren't available in my region. |
| 23:21.28 | kd3 | heh |
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| 23:58.18 | Sintacks | Where'd card go :( |
| 23:59.06 | bleeter | off making movies and plots for games? |
| 23:59.49 | Sintacks | o.O |
