| 00:00.24 | karl_w_w | sleep is a drug |
| 00:02.15 | Cide | Shirik: halp |
| 00:10.53 | Sintacks | i wish nameplates didn't kill shake :| |
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| 00:12.20 | scotepi | how can I cloan a variable? /run a={};a.x=1;a.y=3;b=a;b.x=3;print(a.x,b.x); gives 3 3 |
| 00:12.27 | scotepi | not 1 3 |
| 00:12.54 | scotepi | i guess copy is the better term, it apears to just creat a referance |
| 00:14.42 | Cide | all tables are by reference in lua |
| 00:14.43 | Cide | always |
| 00:15.04 | Cide | to copy you must explicitly create a new table and deep-copy (or shallow copy) the members |
| 00:15.05 | scotepi | so there is no way to make a copy of a table? |
| 00:15.29 | Gnarfoz | there is, and he just described it |
| 00:15.32 | scotepi | k, thanks, ill look that up |
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| 00:15.36 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
| 00:15.57 | Cide | there's hardly ever need for copying a table though |
| 00:16.01 | Cide | so maybe your design is fucked |
| 00:16.24 | scotepi | that too |
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| 00:32.52 | Cairenn | Hey Lothaer, ltns |
| 00:33.14 | Lothaer | hey Cairenn |
| 00:33.28 | Cairenn | Are you still with incgamers? |
| 00:33.52 | Lothaer | nope i havnt used the site in about a year lol |
| 00:34.05 | Cairenn | That's what I thought, but couldn't remember for sure |
| 00:34.28 | Lothaer | yeah i sent you a pm on wowi about it :D |
| 00:34.36 | Cairenn | Only reason I asked is because we've been trying to get in touch with Paul, let him know that worldofwar.net is coming up as an attack site |
| 00:34.52 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 00:35.07 | Cairenn | I sent him an email, but the only email addy I had for him bounced |
| 00:35.23 | Lothaer | yeah i saw that but i dont think he uses the worldofwar address anymore |
| 00:35.34 | Cairenn | nod |
| 00:35.48 | Cairenn | Oh well, we tried to let him know ... |
| 00:36.39 | Cairenn | I can't believe that he hasn't discovered it by himself by now, though, so probably not a big deal that I can't get through to him |
| 00:36.54 | scotepi | it takes a while to get unlitesed too |
| 00:37.18 | Cairenn | Wouldn't know, never had that problem before, so ... |
| 00:37.23 | Lothaer | ROFL |
| 00:40.56 | Lothaer | so whats the latest with WoWI |
| 00:41.25 | mckenziemc | new and improved addons! |
| 00:41.35 | Cairenn | Not much |
| 00:41.54 | Cairenn | Still just doing our thing - taking care of authors and users |
| 00:42.03 | Lothaer | berrynice |
| 00:42.34 | Cairenn | :) |
| 00:43.46 | Nechckn | is still waiting for his cookies! |
| 00:45.25 | Cairenn | ? |
| 00:48.16 | Nechckn | ".. taking care of authors and users" =) |
| 00:48.32 | Nechckn | And I am hungry for cookies... |
| 00:48.43 | Lothaer | LMAO |
| 00:49.04 | mckenziemc | i think "taking care of" means something more like body bags |
| 00:49.06 | Sintacks | if you server transfer... and you were 3/8 H 10 man, are you still saved to 10 man heroic... or do you lose the size specific lockout.. |
| 00:49.30 | Nechckn | mckenziemc hrm, good point! |
| 00:51.22 | Lothaer | i wonder how many authors Cairenn has "taken care of" bet she's got lots of skeletons in that closet ROFL |
| 00:51.30 | Cairenn | ! |
| 00:52.01 | ZorbaTHut | nobody ever got anywhere by taking over abandoned addons |
| 00:52.04 | ZorbaTHut | :V |
| 00:52.36 | Lothaer | oh no im next... but im just a amature pick on someone who knows what they are doing...NOOOOOOO!!!!! |
| 00:53.43 | Lothaer | ~tumbleweed |
| 00:53.43 | purl | ACTION rolls across the empty channel to the theme of The Good, The Bad & The Ugly. |
| 00:54.04 | Cairenn | lol |
| 01:00.52 | Sintacks | so i guess no one knows the answer to my question D: |
| 01:04.22 | Lothaer | LOL just made the heirloom gear on my lvl 40 mage look like my priests Ruthless Gladiator gear |
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| 01:16.16 | Shirik | Cide: hai |
| 01:16.49 | karl_w_w | <ZorbaTHut> nobody ever got anywhere by taking over abandoned addons <- not true |
| 01:17.54 | mckenziemc | i think that was a joke in context |
| 01:18.19 | Gnarfoz | self-referential humor in that one, ta-dah |
| 01:19.28 | Cairenn | quite |
| 01:20.30 | Torhal | gives ZorbaTHut a copy of RiftMatrix. |
| 01:20.39 | Torhal | me hides. |
| 01:20.43 | Torhal | Bah! |
| 01:23.48 | Cairenn | glares at Torhal |
| 01:24.34 | mckenziemc | hands Torhal a pair of glare-reducing sunglasses. |
| 01:25.12 | Torhal | Cairenn: :D |
| 01:25.43 | ZorbaTHut | for those who aren't in on the joke, I got my current job largely thanks to experience I got through resusciating an addon :) |
| 01:26.44 | bleeter | lulz |
| 01:29.14 | Arrowmaster | not to mention living off of donations for a while |
| 01:30.18 | ZorbaTHut | yep, didn't hurt |
| 01:30.51 | ZorbaTHut | and coincidentally all that work with donations has also put me in a good place to deal with donations with the nonprofit I'm starting :P |
| 01:33.35 | Nechckn | Too much paperwork |
| 01:34.45 | Nechckn | Start a Super PAC, much less overhead - and little to no reporting needed. |
| 01:39.33 | karl_w_w | super pac-man? :D |
| 01:40.30 | airtonix | Sintacks: i do |
| 01:41.00 | karl_w_w | http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011/12/12/man-smothered-girlfriend-while-sleeping-death-manslaugher_n_1142821.html |
| 01:41.52 | Nechckn | karl_w_w Apt definition/analogy; for US it is able to eat any and all money, with only vague 'goals' and has none of the silly open books required of 501c3 registered entities. |
| 01:51.02 | Sintacks | airtonix, and that answer would be? |
| 02:12.48 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:14.22 | mckenziemc | hehe |
| 02:18.12 | Sintacks | OH GOD MUMBLE OVERLAY |
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| 02:39.13 | Lothaer | i wish there was 2 additional options on LFD |
| 02:41.02 | Lothaer | 1) Join new group only 2)Join English only groups (not being racist but i find it hard to communicate with a group thay ONLY speaks spanish/portuguese |
| 02:46.50 | foxlit | "1) Join new group only " << backfill will never work then; good luck finishing anything after your tank/healer leaves. |
| 02:47.33 | foxlit | "2) Join English only groups" << should actually work that way already -- English battlegroups and so on. But realistically, nothing you can LFD for requires much communication |
| 02:47.41 | Xyphoid | i'll tick the 'join only groups in progress' box if there's one |
| 02:47.52 | Xyphoid | don't you love falling into a group that's just pulled the last boss |
| 02:48.07 | foxlit | and how often does that happen? |
| 02:48.58 | Xyphoid | i only ever queue as tank so it seemed to happen strangely often |
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| 02:59.08 | Lothaer | last night i joined a group that was already at first boss HoT, and because they were already engagued in the boss when i zoned in i had a big wall of ice blocking me, the group wipped and i got blamed for it WTF!!! |
| 02:59.32 | Lothaer | i queue as a healer |
| 03:00.15 | Xyphoid | isn't it fun when they pull just after your respec finishes |
| 03:00.27 | foxlit | Let them die <3 |
| 03:00.29 | Xyphoid | and you enter combat on 0 mana in dps gear |
| 03:00.44 | Lothaer | lol |
| 03:00.55 | Lothaer | im still trying to get the achievement from the first boss in WoE |
| 03:01.03 | foxlit | so I actually wiped on the HoT gauntlet today |
| 03:01.18 | Lothaer | how? |
| 03:01.46 | foxlit | The second one, come to think of it, since that entire instance is a sequence of gauntlets |
| 03:02.12 | foxlit | The pretty purple swirly thing stuns if you let it finish casting. |
| 03:02.38 | Lothaer | 3 pulls 1st boss, 5 pulls 2nd boss, 3 pulls final boss |
| 03:04.32 | Wobin | I've found raidmarking the tank is useful for that second boss |
| 03:04.38 | Wobin | (as a healer) |
| 03:04.44 | karl_w_w | er none of them are gaunlets as i would call them :P |
| 03:04.49 | Wobin | or raidmarking both tank and boss |
| 03:04.51 | foxlit | the boss itself is trivial. |
| 03:04.53 | Wobin | for easy lineup |
| 03:04.55 | karl_w_w | more like escorts |
| 03:05.20 | Lothaer | yeah i do the same Wobin |
| 03:05.22 | Wobin | foxlit: as a caster, that boss is utterly irritating beyond belief =P |
| 03:05.34 | foxlit | Wobin: as a healer, I don't care. |
| 03:05.37 | Lothaer | yeah stupid silence |
| 03:05.46 | foxlit | just stand behind someone. |
| 03:05.47 | Wobin | foxlit: ... you don't care about being silenced all the time? |
| 03:05.51 | Wobin | yes |
| 03:05.55 | Lothaer | i stay behind the tank |
| 03:06.01 | Wobin | ie, you're depending on someone -else- standing still |
| 03:06.11 | foxlit | meh, works for me. |
| 03:06.18 | karl_w_w | which doesnt happen with the smoke bombs |
| 03:06.26 | Wobin | now that people have a better grasp of the mechanics, yes, it's better |
| 03:06.37 | Wobin | but there are still tanks that can't stand still |
| 03:06.44 | Lothaer | i like to use Leap of Faith when the smoke bombs go off lol |
| 03:06.58 | foxlit | thing is, even with everyone but the tank and the healer dead on that fight, it's still entirely doable. |
| 03:07.09 | Wobin | ... and every time someone says that, I get that song from RENT stuck in my head |
| 03:07.17 | karl_w_w | most tanks could solo it im sure |
| 03:07.29 | foxlit | no matter how annoying that silence is to you, it doesn't actually affect anything that matters. |
| 03:07.41 | Wobin | I dunno about you |
| 03:07.43 | Lothaer | stops use form healing |
| 03:07.44 | Wobin | but I like to be alive |
| 03:07.59 | foxlit | it doesn't kill you either. |
| 03:08.00 | Wobin | and being dead at the end of the fight, isn't considered 'fun' |
| 03:08.04 | karl_w_w | no healing is needed on that fight unless people stand in the smoke |
| 03:08.12 | Lothaer | your logic is flawed fox, healing does matter |
| 03:08.35 | foxlit | I'm pretty sure I can heal through that thing taking every silence possible. |
| 03:08.55 | Lothaer | possibly but it would be annoying as hell |
| 03:08.57 | Wobin | Perhaps |
| 03:09.01 | Wobin | but it's -irritating- |
| 03:09.08 | Lothaer | ^^ |
| 03:09.11 | foxlit | we disagree :) |
| 03:09.17 | Wobin | silences foxlit |
| 03:09.20 | Wobin | shh! |
| 03:09.23 | Lothaer | agree to disagree? |
| 03:09.24 | foxlit | waits 2 seconds. |
| 03:09.25 | Wobin | silences foxlit |
| 03:09.35 | Wobin | zip it! |
| 03:09.40 | foxlit | casts Earth Shield |
| 03:09.44 | Wobin | hsst! |
| 03:09.58 | foxlit | casts Riptide |
| 03:10.01 | Wobin | zip it! |
| 03:10.15 | foxlit | See, the thing is, the "zip it!" holds only for 2 seconds. |
| 03:10.24 | Wobin | and it's annoying =P |
| 03:10.24 | Lothaer | i wish holy priests had a interupt, your be surprised how many times ive wipped on Azshara because DPS are too stupid to stop her cast Total Obedience |
| 03:10.25 | mckenziemc | hits the tank for 99% of max health. |
| 03:10.33 | Wobin | Lothaer: agreed |
| 03:10.45 | foxlit | Wind Shear > * |
| 03:11.01 | Wobin | wait, don't holy priests have one? |
| 03:11.01 | foxlit | I actually specced into it instead of the silly ghost wolf. Honestly, the shaman kit is like the best thing ever. |
| 03:11.04 | foxlit | Purge! |
| 03:11.06 | foxlit | Interrupt! |
| 03:11.14 | foxlit | Never fear a caster again. |
| 03:11.15 | Wobin | chastise or something? |
| 03:11.28 | Lothaer | hmmm |
| 03:11.35 | foxlit | The only thing missing is a tranq shot. We should totally steal that from hunters. |
| 03:12.05 | Lothaer | its a disorient |
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| 03:12.20 | Lothaer | boss would be immune to it |
| 03:12.20 | Lothaer | http://www.wowhead.com/search?q=chastise |
| 03:12.25 | Wobin | alas |
| 03:12.32 | Lothaer | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=88625 |
| 03:12.59 | Dagmar | Bosses are immune to too many hunter abilities |
| 03:13.11 | Xyphoid | foxlit: yeah, i feel baller healing on my shaman since i can handle all the utility too |
| 03:13.13 | Lothaer | and i normally have that change to Chakra: Sanctuary |
| 03:13.36 | Lothaer | Tranq shot removed enrage effects right? |
| 03:13.48 | foxlit | still does. |
| 03:13.50 | Dagmar | Usually, yes |
| 03:14.03 | mckenziemc | used to be one enrage, now one enrage + one magic |
| 03:14.10 | Xyphoid | there there dps, just do your thing, i'll handle everything complicated *heal purge shock grounding kite* |
| 03:14.11 | Wobin | Although I have suspcions it might work on that boss |
| 03:14.16 | Wobin | (chastise, that is) |
| 03:14.19 | Lothaer | I wish they would change Mind Soothe so it was a anti enrage. |
| 03:14.43 | foxlit | Hm, you still have that? |
| 03:14.47 | Wobin | yeah |
| 03:14.58 | Wobin | still useful in BRC |
| 03:15.00 | foxlit | I figured since they changed Soothe Beast to Soothe, Mind Soothe might be gone as well. |
| 03:15.01 | Lothaer | hey Wobin, dont you hate the trash to 2nd boss HoT when you get frozen and NOONE can unfreeze you |
| 03:15.10 | foxlit | But count your blessings; aggro range reductions are awesome. |
| 03:15.13 | Wobin | when everyone tries to run past those stupid mobs on the way to Beauty |
| 03:15.25 | Wobin | Lothaer: ugh, yes |
| 03:15.29 | foxlit | MOVE. |
| 03:15.37 | foxlit | It's a frost trap. Your own damn fault for standing in it. |
| 03:15.43 | Wobin | this too |
| 03:15.59 | Wobin | no, I'm more complaining that only healers seem to be able to dispel those stuns/traps |
| 03:16.07 | Lothaer | and id like Shackle Undead changed to just Shackle not much undead to use it on these days except for the Ghosy on Hex Lord and Trash to Jaina |
| 03:16.24 | foxlit | Wobin: which is kind of okay by me. |
| 03:16.24 | Xyphoid | you had your undead expansion |
| 03:16.34 | Wobin | I like being a druid, that you can entangle one melee dragonkin and sleep the caster =) |
| 03:16.58 | foxlit | sleep one, tank the others like a bear. |
| 03:17.11 | Wobin | and worst comes to worse, cyclone a third |
| 03:17.20 | Lothaer | Hunter trap |
| 03:17.21 | foxlit | I'm more annoyed that you have to spend talent points to get a magic dispel |
| 03:17.23 | Lothaer | rogue sap |
| 03:17.33 | foxlit | That thing cries for being a spec passive, but NOOOOO.... :P |
| 03:17.34 | Lothaer | paladin repent |
| 03:17.41 | Lothaer | just cant sheep or hex them |
| 03:18.00 | Wobin | foxlit: I thought the resto tree was small enough that there wasn't much else to put the points in |
| 03:18.03 | foxlit | Or just stick a DK who knows where his Mind Freeze button is on those casters. |
| 03:18.11 | Lothaer | Id also like blizzard to changed the Guardian Spirit graphic |
| 03:18.19 | Wobin | foxlit: you must find those rare dks |
| 03:18.31 | Wobin | I like the new spell effects |
| 03:18.35 | Wobin | like lightning bolt |
| 03:18.38 | foxlit | Wobin: I'm offended by them every time. "No, I wanted to Wind Shear that mob!" |
| 03:18.38 | Wobin | and hurricaine |
| 03:18.56 | Wobin | chain chain lightning is so OP =P |
| 03:19.08 | foxlit | yeah, less of a problem for Shamans. |
| 03:19.09 | Lothaer | guardian spirit has the worst graphic |
| 03:19.24 | foxlit | As a druid, I'd like a few more talent points to go around, really. |
| 03:19.25 | Wobin | what's it look like? |
| 03:19.32 | Wobin | foxlit: oh yes, please. |
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| 03:20.24 | Lothaer | http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/166202.jpg |
| 03:20.24 | mckenziemc1 | internet has to disconnect right after i log into wow : / |
| 03:20.37 | Wobin | oh just wings |
| 03:20.49 | Wobin | they should make them Tyrael wings |
| 03:21.07 | Lothaer | IMO it should look like proper angel wings wrapping them selves around the target (think Alexander from FFIX |
| 03:30.45 | kd3 | I really enjoyed those cutscenes |
| 03:30.46 | kd3 | really epic music |
| 03:44.10 | Shirik | :( |
| 03:44.16 | Shirik | I asked Siri if the weather outside was frightful |
| 03:44.26 | Shirik | but all she said was "here's the weather for today through this monday" |
| 03:46.28 | Thunder_Child | you wanted something about a fire and delightful? |
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| 03:47.14 | Shirik | I would have accepted "no it's not snowing" or something |
| 03:50.31 | Thunder_Child | http://goo.gl/CbI4W |
| 03:52.00 | Shirik | wtf |
| 03:52.24 | kd3 | ^ |
| 03:57.12 | pompy1 | http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/384826_10100163855369687_36617346_43679320_906393733_n.jpg haha |
| 04:00.07 | Thunder_Child | http://goo.gl/4cGjX |
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| 04:35.00 | scotepi | what is the function i can call for /dump ? |
| 04:36.52 | Jamash | grep -Fi \/dump C:\Games\World of Warcraft\BlizzardInterfaceCode\Interface\AddOns\Blizzard_DebugTools\* |
| 04:36.57 | Jamash | oops |
| 04:37.19 | Jamash | take off the \ in front of /dump |
| 04:39.40 | scotepi | looks like DevTools_DumpCommand |
| 04:39.44 | scotepi | https://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/blob/live/AddOns/Blizzard_DebugTools/Dump.lua |
| 04:40.09 | scotepi | nope DevTools_Dump |
| 04:40.15 | scotepi | thanks |
| 04:42.35 | Jamash | DumpCommand takes a string to execute while Dump takes a value |
| 04:45.13 | clever | getting closer on fixing the wow map viewer! |
| 04:47.36 | Thunder_Child | http://ht.ly/7YzzX |
| 04:48.25 | scotepi | grr i hate lua tables some times >< trying to sort them is a pain in the arse but idk how else i can do it |
| 04:49.06 | mckenziemc1 | table.sort + |
| 04:49.09 | mckenziemc1 | ? * |
| 04:49.31 | scotepi | doesn't seam to be working, ill do up a little debug code |
| 04:54.39 | scotepi | got one http://pastebin.com/tV75ZThb |
| 04:55.20 | scotepi | give 374, 368, 386.. same way they were inserted |
| 04:56.29 | scotepi | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:56.36 | scotepi | forgot the return in the sort() |
| 04:56.53 | Arrowmaster | why are you doing "function(...) sortTest(...) end"? |
| 04:57.53 | Arrowmaster | just do table.sort(temp, sortTest) |
| 04:58.25 | scotepi | in the real code its a method of a class, i didnt think it worked for that |
| 04:59.24 | Arrowmaster | just dont use method notation when you create it |
| 05:00.19 | scotepi | any reason not to do function(...) return Class:Method(...) end? |
| 05:01.04 | Arrowmaster | its a waste |
| 05:01.09 | Arrowmaster | no reason to do it |
| 05:02.07 | scotepi | 'its a waste' isn't really a reason, all the examples i see use it. is there a meaningful proformance dgridation or something? |
| 05:02.07 | Arrowmaster | if the function isnt going to be using self then you dont need to use method notation in the first place so no reason to have to wrap it like that |
| 05:02.33 | Arrowmaster | yes there is actually a performance penalty for every function call |
| 05:04.28 | Arrowmaster | a certain developer once created a game changing addon but was a total idiot about lua performance and had things wrapped in 5+ function calls and eventually a certain somebody created a replacement and completely killed off the original addon |
| 05:05.05 | Arrowmaster | bonus points for anybody in the channel that gets which two addons im referring to |
| 05:05.41 | Wobin | "But that's a hack and that's never good?" |
| 05:05.44 | Arrowmaster | ill offer a hint if needed |
| 05:05.56 | kd3 | ack |
| 05:06.05 | kd3 | remembers and retches |
| 05:06.19 | Wobin | I might have burnt the memory out of my cortex |
| 05:06.40 | Wobin | was it Mr Poll AAAALLL the things? |
| 05:06.45 | kd3 | yes |
| 05:06.58 | Arrowmaster | "<tekkub> why is it checking if im a hunter every onupdate?" |
| 05:07.03 | Wobin | haha |
| 05:07.04 | Wobin | oh god |
| 05:07.08 | scotepi | the only addon i would call revolusionary was the one that drasticly fixed laoding times by twekeing events |
| 05:07.16 | Wobin | LOOK OUT, THE TWIN EMPS MIGHT BE BEHIND YOU |
| 05:09.05 | karl_w_w | surely the first revolutionary addon would've been decursive or something like that :P |
| 05:09.39 | Arrowmaster | first would have been ctraid/mod |
| 05:12.57 | scotepi | wonders if ct mod is still around off in there own little world |
| 05:13.18 | scotepi | yep |
| 05:13.21 | kd3 | points at http://ctmod.net |
| 05:13.31 | Arrowmaster | ts was still updating it last i knew |
| 05:13.42 | scotepi | updated for 4.3 |
| 05:16.02 | kullervo | does anyone even use it? |
| 05:16.05 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 05:16.06 | Fisker | bye kd3 |
| 05:16.52 | scotepi | i used it till 4.0 not being on a major site always pissed me off |
| 05:17.26 | scotepi | and it alwase seamed like it was 1 step from greatness |
| 05:19.52 | airtonix | sintAcks: you should speak up, it's rude to mumble |
| 05:20.02 | Shirik | snooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow |
| 05:21.40 | kd3 | looks outside and doesn't see anything untoward |
| 05:21.55 | kd3 | guess I can call off the traditional Atlanta-area panic whenever someone says the s-word |
| 05:22.57 | karl_w_w | SWORD! |
| 05:23.05 | karl_w_w | ~sword kd3 |
| 05:23.10 | karl_w_w | dammit |
| 05:23.22 | karl_w_w | what a let down |
| 05:23.51 | Shirik | transmits a SAME-encoded blizzard warning at kd3 |
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| 06:37.34 | Fisker | looks at kd3 then Shirik then not karl_w_w |
| 06:38.04 | mckenziemc1 | morning Fiskie |
| 06:38.09 | Shirik | sends Fisker a ZCZCZCWXRBZW01300001003482127WWOW/IRCZCZCZCNNNN |
| 06:38.11 | Fisker | nope mckenziemc1 |
| 06:38.18 | Fisker | nope Shirik |
| 06:38.41 | clever | mckenziemc1: did some more work on the viewer today, kinda got darkmoon fair working |
| 06:39.03 | Fisker | you sound mad |
| 06:40.48 | airtonix | are you ? |
| 06:41.00 | airtonix | Fisker: i just won the internet |
| 06:41.01 | Fisker | nope |
| 06:41.07 | airtonix | yes |
| 06:41.21 | Fisker | i got 99 problems but airtonix ain't one |
| 06:41.31 | airtonix | Fisker: sounds good |
| 06:42.26 | airtonix | hey Fisker, i use to play wow, then i took an arrow to the knee |
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| 06:47.07 | Mr_Rabies | OH MY GOD I GOT HERE AS FAST AS I COULD, DID SOMEONE SAY SNOW |
| 06:47.19 | clever | its all over my back yard! :P |
| 06:47.22 | Mr_Rabies | reads kd3's line of text |
| 06:47.31 | Mr_Rabies | CRISIS AVERTED, NOW WHAT AM I GONNA DO WITH ALL THIS MILK AND BREAD |
| 06:47.44 | Mr_Rabies | that didn't really need to be allcaps |
| 06:47.53 | kd3 | lol |
| 06:49.51 | Mr_Rabies | no last year was seriously traumatizing now |
| 06:50.02 | Mr_Rabies | i'm not leaving the house if there's a chance the roads will freeze |
| 06:50.24 | mckenziemc1 | there's always a chance the roads will freeze |
| 06:50.46 | kd3 | a whole week off school. some of my regulars (did I mention I work at a starbucks inside a target to help pay for school?) nearly killed their kids that week |
| 06:50.52 | Mr_Rabies | i almost died several times last year |
| 06:51.04 | Mr_Rabies | during the ice storm here in the south |
| 06:52.39 | Mr_Rabies | i actually ended up quitting my job soon after because they wouldn't let me leave before the roads froze that day |
| 06:54.15 | Arrowmaster | should have yelled "I'm taking a sick day bitches!" and walked out |
| 06:54.36 | Mr_Rabies | they had already left for the day |
| 06:54.44 | Mr_Rabies | i ended up leaving early anyway |
| 06:54.46 | Mr_Rabies | but it was too late |
| 06:54.55 | Mr_Rabies | ended up stuck on the side of the road for about 6 hours |
| 06:55.19 | Mr_Rabies | and then as soon as my parents were finally able to get to me, my dad hits two cars |
| 06:55.24 | kd3 | ick |
| 06:55.36 | Mr_Rabies | with people standing outside |
| 06:55.53 | Mr_Rabies | that easily could have turned into accidental vehicular manslaughter :( |
| 06:56.43 | Mr_Rabies | left the office at 4:30 pm, ended up getting home at about midnight |
| 06:56.52 | Mr_Rabies | normally my drive home is about 45 minutes |
| 06:56.55 | mckenziemc1 | isn't "accidental manslaughter" redundant? |
| 06:57.01 | Mr_Rabies | i don't know, i thought so |
| 06:57.24 | Mr_Rabies | but i thought i'd clarify since i was too lazy to look up the legal definition and see if it was always accidental |
| 06:57.44 | mckenziemc1 | ah |
| 06:57.50 | Arrowmaster | i would have filed for 6 hours of overtime |
| 06:58.20 | Mr_Rabies | i probably should have |
| 06:58.28 | Mr_Rabies | but they were (and are still) my friends |
| 06:58.33 | Mr_Rabies | but it was that point that i decided i can't work there |
| 06:58.55 | Mr_Rabies | i'm never working for friends again |
| 06:59.37 | Mr_Rabies | because if i was working for anyone else in that situation, i would have driven a bus through my boss's ass for that |
| 06:59.59 | Mr_Rabies | instead i just guilted the hell out of them and hopefully they won't do it to future employees |
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| 07:00.49 | Mr_Rabies | because seriously, even thinking about the feeling of my car just completley losing control and never regaining it makes my chest hurt |
| 07:14.52 | Mr_Rabies | huh, interesting |
| 07:15.16 | Mr_Rabies | new curse client tells me i have a few addons that could use updating, but the catch is that the new version is also pretty old O_o |
| 07:18.52 | karl_w_w | http://www.suguild.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=26;type=avatar what is this I don't even |
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| 09:36.03 | airtonix | Mr_Rabies: you should of telecommutted |
| 09:36.13 | airtonix | real men operate android |
| 09:37.34 | mckenziemc | have* |
| 09:37.59 | airtonix | mckenziemc: :> |
| 09:38.15 | airtonix | i did it for you bro |
| 09:38.49 | mckenziemc | nice deathchin btw |
| 09:39.07 | airtonix | i'm glad you approve |
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| 09:50.04 | karl_w_w | so who's playing shadow word: tor? |
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| 09:53.09 | airtonix | karl_w_w: you mean world of warcraft 16: The Future? |
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| 10:03.02 | mckenziemc | no airtonix |
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| 10:49.00 | harl | [hello] |
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| 11:42.06 | Cairenn | night all |
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| 11:58.53 | DJJeff | so a little birdy told me Blizzard Entertainments Anti Cheat |
| 11:58.59 | DJJeff | WARDEN |
| 11:59.02 | DJJeff | is spyware |
| 11:59.21 | DJJeff | it can see window titles and programs im running on my pc? |
| 12:02.33 | Kalroth | oh god this is news!! |
| 12:02.44 | Kalroth | Windows is spyware too, you know |
| 12:03.06 | Kalroth | but yes, Warden scans running processes and checks for known bots |
| 12:03.29 | DJJeff | and stuff like cheat engiene? |
| 12:03.38 | Kalroth | I guess so |
| 12:03.42 | DJJeff | what would stop someone from say.. spoofing that window title |
| 12:03.53 | DJJeff | seems like a stupid approach |
| 12:04.03 | Kalroth | Well nothing, but they dont check on the window title |
| 12:04.11 | DJJeff | they did |
| 12:04.15 | Kalroth | they check on the contents of the process now |
| 12:04.23 | DJJeff | and DEFCON 18 had a talk on it |
| 12:04.38 | DJJeff | sounds even more intrusive |
| 12:04.42 | DJJeff | then before |
| 12:04.51 | Kalroth | this is old news though |
| 12:05.05 | Kalroth | warden has been active since .. uh, 2004? :) |
| 12:05.51 | Raimondas | As long as it doesn't ban people again for using Linux I don't care |
| 12:07.15 | haste | It did ban some people using Cedega a couple of years ago |
| 12:07.21 | haste | but that was fixed and the bans lifted |
| 12:07.39 | Raimondas | I know :P |
| 12:10.20 | DJJeff | valve anti cheat does a better less intrusive job? |
| 12:10.26 | Kalroth | It should ban people for using Linux and Mac OS X |
| 12:10.26 | DJJeff | VAC |
| 12:10.48 | DJJeff | Linux + WINE = WoW? |
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| 12:13.33 | haste | I think VAC does pretty much the same as Warden |
| 12:16.41 | Kalroth | It does |
| 12:16.50 | Kalroth | Even the Steam does it |
| 12:16.55 | Kalroth | the Steam client* |
| 12:17.35 | Kalroth | see http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey in the software section |
| 12:19.18 | Kalroth | (Gasp, 100% of all Steam users got Steam running!) |
| 12:25.37 | karl_w_w | winrar 45% |
| 12:25.47 | karl_w_w | 44% pirated |
| 12:26.10 | haste | wonders why people ue WinRAR instead of 7-zip. |
| 12:26.36 | karl_w_w | because people are stupid. |
| 12:31.03 | mitch0 | hateses rar |
| 12:31.31 | mitch0 | btw, what's the point of putting stuff up on torrent in rar format split up in gazillion pieces? |
| 12:31.52 | tekkub | it just means you got it form a newsgroup and are a lazy sack of shit |
| 12:32.21 | mitch0 | figures |
| 12:32.33 | tekkub | also, fuck par repair |
| 12:32.35 | tekkub | *rabble* |
| 12:32.44 | mitch0 | par repair? |
| 12:32.58 | tekkub | I download stuff from newsgroups |
| 12:33.13 | tekkub | and then sometimes they're dicked up so the app goes and downloads the par files to try to fix it |
| 12:33.16 | tekkub | and it NEVER works |
| 12:33.55 | tekkub | so in the end I download 5x the data trying to get the file after I try another source or 3 |
| 12:34.22 | Grum | pfft get moar reliable people posting! |
| 12:34.43 | tekkub | it's always on bullshit shows the bear or his sister want too |
| 12:34.48 | tekkub | the quality shows never do it |
| 12:35.08 | tekkub | did I say shows, I mean nondescript totally legit files |
| 12:35.30 | Grum | so which bs ones fail? :) |
| 12:35.59 | tekkub | god I don't even remember |
| 12:36.06 | tekkub | they've been watchign some damn stupid stuff |
| 12:40.42 | Maldivia | hmm... so more steam-users have powerpoint installed than word... |
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| 12:46.18 | Kalroth | mitch0: stuff is split in rar archives because it's the scene rules |
| 12:46.53 | Kalroth | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_%28warez%29#Packaging |
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| 12:48.19 | Kalroth | you can also see it in the warez scene RFC for 0day releases: http://www.sbytes.info/NFO/2010.0Day.nfo |
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| 12:49.33 | Mikk | it used to be 1.4MB RAR archives |
| 12:49.36 | Mikk | = split on floppies |
| 12:49.47 | Mikk | at some point it went x10 in size because 1.4 was silly |
| 12:49.57 | Mikk | but 14MB is silly too now |
| 12:49.59 | Kalroth | there are various sizes, depending on the size of the release |
| 12:50.16 | Kalroth | 1.44, 2.88, 5, 10 and 50MB |
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| 12:54.11 | Mikk | i usually see 14MB |
| 12:55.58 | Kalroth | I would never do anything illegal myself, so I can't disagree with you! |
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| 12:56.24 | Mikk | didn't say i downloaded them! :D |
| 13:05.25 | mitch0 | mikk, kalroth: ok, but WHY is it in the "rules"? |
| 13:05.35 | Mikk | it's not so much rules as conventions |
| 13:05.35 | mitch0 | it certainly doesn't make any sense at all today |
| 13:05.46 | Mikk | (i used to be in the "scene" a long time ago) |
| 13:05.52 | Mikk | (long enough ago that it's prescribed =)) |
| 13:07.10 | Mikk | (plus i never really did anything illegal myself - was programming) |
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| 13:09.46 | Kalroth | mitch0: the scene consists of old grumpy and slow men |
| 13:10.01 | Kalroth | it takes a long time for standards to get updated |
| 13:11.13 | Mikk | it's also popular to whine at others for "not doing things properly" |
| 13:11.16 | Mikk | to give them a bad name |
| 13:11.20 | Mikk | = put yourself in a better position |
| 13:11.24 | Mikk | it's very very competetive |
| 13:18.06 | airtonix | urdoinitwrong |
| 13:23.03 | bluspacecow | yes |
| 13:23.17 | bluspacecow | you have to do it with a block of cheese in one hand , bottle of wine in the other |
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| 13:28.38 | bluspacecow | it's a Peppy ! |
| 13:28.39 | bluspacecow | hai2u |
| 13:29.04 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, dear. |
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| 14:00.13 | Lopeppeppy | I seriously require a llama to rescue me. |
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| 14:48.32 | sylvanaar_work | Is that a sim city reference? |
| 14:49.30 | Lopeppeppy | I dunno. It's very much a reference to spaghetti HTML that I'm trying to sort through. I thought a nice llama with a cup of chai would be helpful. |
| 14:50.45 | Ackis | blarghs the channel |
| 14:50.48 | Ackis | Christmas sucks |
| 14:50.56 | sylvanaar_work | humbug |
| 14:50.56 | mitch0 | truth |
| 14:51.28 | alestane | sends large dogs with casks of rum to Lopeppeppy. |
| 14:52.46 | sylvanaar_arbeit | can you have UTF nicks? |
| 14:53.31 | sylvanaar_arbeit | guess not |
| 14:53.51 | sylvanaar_arbeit | 希爾瓦納 |
| 14:53.55 | Lopeppeppy | Very truth, ackis. |
| 14:54.08 | Maldivia | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:54.10 | Maldivia | :/ |
| 14:54.18 | sylvanaar_arbeit | ~x zh en 希爾瓦納 |
| 14:54.26 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, I've been wrestling with this for 3 freakin' days. Even in Dreamweaver I cannot force it to make sense. |
| 14:54.45 | sylvanaar_arbeit | ~x en zh sylvanaar |
| 14:54.50 | sylvanaar_arbeit | whatever purl |
| 14:55.01 | alestane | Dreamweaver is not good with bad HTML. |
| 14:55.19 | sylvanaar_arbeit | purl: what |
| 14:55.19 | purl | idk |
| 14:55.20 | Maldivia | it's not good with good html either |
| 14:55.26 | sylvanaar_arbeit | purl: i see that |
| 14:55.26 | purl | You see that? |
| 14:55.39 | Lopeppeppy | It's only 82 lines. I can see what's wrong, I can't fix it. Frustrating as hell. :) |
| 14:56.06 | sylvanaar_arbeit | everytime i hear that name Dreamweaver i think of the song |
| 14:56.11 | Maldivia | edit the html directly to fix it? |
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| 14:57.23 | Lopeppeppy | I am, Maldivia, I am. Spare, I tell ya. *laughs like a hyena eating a porcupine* |
| 14:58.03 | foxlit | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3119751944#1 << average word length: 3.4 characters. |
| 14:58.27 | sylvanaar_arbeit | y u cnt wrd? |
| 14:58.28 | Kalroth | foxlit: fu!1 |
| 14:58.40 | foxlit | Kalroth: that's 4. |
| 14:59.03 | Kalroth | 1 isn't a word, silly |
| 14:59.14 | Kalroth | neither is ! for that matter! |
| 14:59.17 | foxlit | you mean a letter. |
| 14:59.27 | foxlit | but I was counting with %S+ |
| 14:59.36 | Kalroth | oh |
| 14:59.41 | karl_w_w | "even in dreamweaver"? |
| 14:59.51 | Kalroth | how do i type a 3.4 letter word then? |
| 14:59.54 | Maldivia | Lopeppeppy: but... 84 lines... can't be "that hard" :P |
| 15:00.26 | foxlit | Kalroth: you type four four-letter words and six three letter-words. |
| 15:00.38 | Kalroth | foxlit: in one word! |
| 15:01.05 | Lopeppeppy | I hear you, Maldivia. Driving ... me... spare... send... llama!! |
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| 15:03.05 | Maldivia | Lopeppeppy: here you go http://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000004632388-6fgo9t-crop.jpg |
| 15:03.28 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, such pretty eyes! But it looks like he drank my chai, look at those pupils. |
| 15:04.42 | Maldivia | Lopeppeppy: this one better then http://www.lachstation.de/images/lustig_784_18.jpg |
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| 15:05.23 | Lopeppeppy | Special. |
| 15:05.52 | Maldivia | guess that's one way of putting it |
| 15:11.34 | Ackis | it feels like I'm drowning |
| 15:21.12 | Ackis | someone asked me basically if I was a bot and I replied, no I'm a meat popsicle. :D |
| 15:42.30 | Thunder_Child | good answer |
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| 15:54.09 | Thunder_Child | Kalroth: two² <- 3.4 |
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| 16:02.10 | Kalroth | :D |
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| 16:12.15 | Thunder_Child | ██●★★●██████●████◆ ✆ naloqaqyln@kimo.com <From: "¢i¢i¡´¡¹¡¹¡´¢i¢i¢i¢i¢i¢i¡´¢i¢i¢i¢i¡»" <naloqaqyln@kimo.com>> thats one hell of a name |
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| 16:26.06 | Lopeppeppy | Bless you, TC. That looked like an ASCII sneeze to me. |
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| 16:31.50 | alestane | Well, have to move out and get some work done. |
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| 16:43.29 | Fisker | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 16:43.32 | Fisker | not so hey Kalroth |
| 16:43.50 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 16:43.51 | bluspacecow | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2978624/just_fell_in_love.jpg |
| 16:44.43 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 16:44.55 | Kalroth | heeey Fisker baby |
| 16:45.03 | Fisker | nope |
| 16:45.14 | Kalroth | you tease |
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| 17:04.43 | bluspacecow | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2978624/the-a-dademy-awards.jpeg |
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| 17:36.59 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 17:37.00 | Fisker | i love you |
| 17:37.01 | Fisker | ok? |
| 17:37.04 | bluspacecow | kk |
| 17:37.59 | Fisker | k |
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| 18:10.23 | Fisker | bluspacecow i'm sorry |
| 18:10.50 | bluspacecow | i go sleeps nows ? |
| 18:12.38 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, please do. |
| 18:13.15 | Fisker | open your eyes bluspacecow |
| 18:13.22 | bluspacecow | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 18:13.47 | Fisker | your eyes are open? |
| 18:13.57 | bluspacecow | naw |
| 18:14.10 | Fisker | open your eyes |
| 18:14.16 | bluspacecow | no |
| 18:14.20 | Fisker | your eyes are open? |
| 18:14.51 | bluspacecow | nope |
| 18:14.53 | cog|work | never ceases to amaze me how well-coordinated random battleground groups can be at intentionally avoiding winning or losing |
| 18:14.57 | bluspacecow | text to speech ftw |
| 18:15.24 | cog|work | no one going after flags but always killing EFC, for example |
| 18:15.25 | Fisker | open your eyes |
| 18:16.21 | foxlit | cog|work: going after flags is a thankless endeavour. |
| 18:16.50 | foxlit | In that you'd likely be alone against the defenders, so why bother? Simply farm HKs in the middle. |
| 18:16.52 | bluspacecow | i go sleeps nows ! |
| 18:17.00 | foxlit | That's more or less the random battleground group logic. |
| 18:17.02 | Fisker | your eyes are open? |
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| 18:22.49 | cog|work | foxlit: that "logic" is part of the reason it never ceases to amaze me. I guess i shouldn't be surprised by people's inability to think clearly. |
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| 18:40.11 | Fisker | open your eyes cog|work |
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| 19:09.21 | foxlit | cog|work: I guess i shouldn't be surprised by people's inability to think clearly. << It's entirely rational. |
| 19:09.32 | foxlit | Nash equilibrium, at that. |
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| 19:48.09 | kd3 | wtf |
| 19:48.25 | kd3 | just saw the google zeitgeist for this year |
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| 20:01.28 | Ackis | when will I grow up and not giggle at the word taint? |
| 20:01.57 | Stanzilla_ | Ackis: I added you to a convo on cf btw |
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| 20:07.09 | Ackis | Stanzilla_: already replied to it my friend |
| 20:07.23 | Ackis | or I'll get the error of "1 new message was made while you were working on your own. You can submit again if you're still satisfied." |
| 20:07.35 | Stanzilla_ | Ackis: why cant I see your reply :o |
| 20:08.16 | Ackis | because it never went through because of said error message, should be there now |
| 20:08.33 | Stanzilla_ | ah ok |
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| 20:34.10 | foxlit | lua> ("aaabaaa"):match("([ab])%1+") |
| 20:34.11 | lua_bot | foxlit: nil |
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| 20:34.12 | foxlit | qq! |
| 20:38.05 | alestane | Do patterns even support captures while matching or only while replacing? |
| 20:38.18 | foxlit | lua> ("aaabaaa"):match("([ab])%1") |
| 20:38.18 | lua_bot | foxlit: a |
| 20:38.35 | alestane | That's the first capture |
| 20:39.00 | foxlit | non-nil means something matched. |
| 20:39.07 | foxlit | lua> ("aaabaaa"):match("(([ab])%1)") |
| 20:39.07 | lua_bot | foxlit: luabot:1: invalid capture index |
| 20:39.12 | foxlit | lua> ("aaabaaa"):match("(([ab])%1)") |
| 20:39.12 | lua_bot | foxlit: luabot:1: invalid capture index |
| 20:39.14 | foxlit | lua> ("aaabaaa"):match("(([ab])%2)") |
| 20:39.15 | lua_bot | foxlit: aa, a |
| 20:39.25 | alestane | Okay then. |
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| 20:42.06 | Lopeppeppy | *hummy hum hum genocide hum* |
| 20:42.31 | bluspacecow | go-to-bed fail |
| 20:42.42 | bluspacecow | looks like it's going to be a day of chugging energy drinks |
| 20:43.08 | Lopeppeppy | Sleep is better for you. Chug some valerian. |
| 21:01.27 | Fisker | Imad bluspacecow |
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| 21:20.50 | Shirik | well this is screwed up |
| 21:21.21 | Shirik | waves at Lopeppeppy |
| 21:22.04 | syrae | greetings to all you sleep-deprived wage slaves |
| 21:22.24 | kd3 | hello from a sleep-deprived wage slave |
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| 21:23.27 | syrae | hugs kd3 |
| 21:23.40 | Ackis | are there any new wintersveil achievements? |
| 21:23.41 | syrae | May the e-hugs help make your day slightly less sucky |
| 21:23.59 | kd3 | why thank you |
| 21:24.12 | Shirik | http://www.wimp.com/howsnakes/ |
| 21:26.13 | bleeter | MentalPower|Work: grats on new gig? |
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| 21:43.07 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: someone had way to much time on her hands |
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| 22:03.08 | amro | Try World of Warcraft: Hour of Twilight, FREE for 7 days |
| 22:03.17 | amro | no thanks |
| 22:03.24 | amro | maybe unban my other account you assholes |
| 22:03.43 | foxlit | what horrible, horrible things have /you/ done? |
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| 22:04.10 | amro | I was born in africa |
| 22:04.16 | amro | therefore, I must have stolen my own account |
| 22:04.24 | amro | unless I can provide a us driver's license |
| 22:05.09 | amro | I can't even contact them |
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| 22:34.16 | Cide | call them? :P |
| 22:43.06 | haste | wowinterface :( |
| 22:45.50 | Adys_ | tekkub: ping |
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| 22:52.56 | Arrowmaster | Shirik |
| 22:53.41 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/12/15/2013249/us-sentinel-drone-fooled-into-landing-with-gps-spoofing |
| 22:54.31 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: one of the comment mentions that military gps is encrypted and asks the question of if the drone was using civilian gps or if the military gps has been cracked |
| 22:55.47 | Shirik | I seriously doubt the military gps is cracked |
| 22:55.58 | Arrowmaster | so did the commenter |
| 22:55.58 | Shirik | there are unmanned aircraft that use civilian GPS |
| 22:56.06 | Shirik | but a lot of them use SAASM |
| 22:56.23 | Shirik | I don't know what the RQ-170 uses |
| 22:56.39 | Arrowmaster | youre using acronyms that nobody else in the channel will know again |
| 22:56.48 | Shirik | um |
| 22:56.55 | Shirik | RQ-170 is the name of the iran UAV |
| 22:56.59 | Arrowmaster | no SAASM |
| 22:57.13 | Shirik | that would be the "military GPS" |
| 22:57.14 | Thunder_Child | anti-spoofing |
| 22:57.28 | Thunder_Child | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_availability_anti-spoofing_module |
| 22:58.16 | Arrowmaster | so does the stuff your working on use SAASM |
| 22:58.17 | Shirik | It still seems strange that you would be able to get an aircraft to land just by spoofing GPS though |
| 22:58.21 | Shirik | yes |
| 22:58.43 | Shirik | but still we don't trust GPS, primarily because it's not a silver bullett |
| 22:58.49 | amro | Shirik: they didn't just spoof GPS, they also jammed the rc signals which forced it into fly back home autopilot |
| 22:58.56 | amro | combined with spoofing the "home" address |
| 22:59.10 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: maybe you should fire up your simulator and try it |
| 22:59.31 | Shirik | I should actually |
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| 22:59.49 | Shirik | I'm pretty sure it would piss off something if our estimated position deviated too far from GPS, but I don't know what it would actually do |
| 23:00.51 | Arrowmaster | well its not like you can come up with a good fallback for that situation |
| 23:01.02 | Arrowmaster | i mean what would you want it to do |
| 23:01.29 | amro | use INS? |
| 23:01.51 | Maldivia | never trust a cat... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB90NjT51gg |
| 23:02.00 | KarlKFI|work | you could attempt to map your course while flying and then retrace your "steps" if you lost gps |
| 23:02.13 | amro | KarlKFI|work: that's INS, in a way |
| 23:02.14 | KarlKFI|work | but that would take significant effort |
| 23:02.16 | Arrowmaster | but do you have enough fuel to do that? |
| 23:02.17 | amro | tracking your position based on movements |
| 23:02.37 | amro | you don't have to retrace the steps, you can use them to figure out where you are on the map |
| 23:02.45 | KarlKFI|work | that too |
| 23:03.24 | KarlKFI|work | but who knows if flying strait to your start point is militarily safe |
| 23:03.24 | amro | that's what aircraft used, but it can deviate |
| 23:03.30 | amro | I don't know how accurate it would be for a drone |
| 23:03.38 | KarlKFI|work | then again if youw ere dodging patrols or something retracing might not be safe either |
| 23:03.39 | amro | since INS is normally used by a pilot |
| 23:04.00 | KarlKFI|work | could self destruct if you lost gps... |
| 23:04.18 | Arrowmaster | but how do you safely self destruct |
| 23:04.25 | amro | flying a bomb over your enemy is not a great idea either |
| 23:04.40 | KarlKFI|work | it's impossible to "safely self destruct" |
| 23:04.55 | Arrowmaster | not yet at least |
| 23:05.08 | KarlKFI|work | not gonna be possible until we can vaporize things |
| 23:05.13 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 23:05.24 | amro | I like how the US asked for the drone back |
| 23:05.36 | amro | like it's a soccer ball that landed in someone's balcony |
| 23:20.21 | Fisker | OH YEAH |
| 23:20.22 | Fisker | i knew it |
| 23:20.31 | Fisker | http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2587-Battle.net-BattleTag-FAQ |
| 23:20.38 | Fisker | whos your daddy Sixen |
| 23:21.14 | Fisker | jelly Sixen ? |
| 23:22.02 | Fisker | nice |
| 23:22.07 | Fisker | finally got rid of that shitty support site |
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| 23:29.55 | mckenziemc | "In their post they didnt say you'd get all the benefits of readID, just the communication aspects of it. With realID you can bg and dung together." *giggle* |
| 23:29.58 | Bibi | Fisker: technically, Sixen was the first to reply on the official support site. |
| 23:34.31 | Xyphoid | oh wow non-real-name realid? |
| 23:35.38 | amro | they should have called it fakeid |
| 23:35.39 | kd3 | gack. my bnet authenticator updated on my phone and now I can't log in... |
| 23:35.41 | amro | http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/15/2638020/french-president-sarkozys-residence-torrenting-scandal-piracy |
| 23:35.46 | amro | now that's delicious |
| 23:36.22 | bluspacecow | battletag xinny |
| 23:36.30 | Jamash | amro: XD |
| 23:36.58 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/support/en/article/battletagfaq |
| 23:37.00 | bluspacecow | also |
| 23:37.05 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3754945852#1 |
| 23:37.19 | Jamash | aight so should I use mooninaut or jamash |
| 23:37.56 | amro | moonimash |
| 23:37.59 | Jamash | lewl |
| 23:38.18 | Jamash | I only use Jamash for wows and Mooninaut for everything else, so Mooninaut |
| 23:39.37 | Cide | Cide#1557 |
| 23:39.45 | Cide | so close to 1337 |
| 23:39.50 | amro | Cide-=330 |
| 23:40.02 | amro | maybe I should subtract your karma 330 times |
| 23:40.03 | bluspacecow | bluspacecow #1174 |
| 23:40.04 | Cide | 220, surely |
| 23:40.10 | amro | mathfail |
| 23:40.12 | amro | I should sleep |
| 23:40.41 | Cide | definitely |
| 23:41.49 | kd3 | kd3 #1949 |
| 23:43.17 | Arrowmaster | Arrowmaster #1248 |
| 23:46.14 | Maldivia | #1397 |
| 23:48.09 | amro | I did not receive a cool number, 2595 |
| 23:48.12 | amro | at least it rhymes |
| 23:48.17 | bluspacecow | waiting on someone getting #9001 and above |
| 23:49.41 | Maldivia | I wanted #0001 or #0007 :P |
| 23:50.54 | Arrowmaster | i think they are limited to 1000-1999 right now |
| 23:51.01 | Arrowmaster | at least until more people use the same name |
| 23:52.35 | Thunder_Child | heh #1941 |
| 23:52.39 | Thunder_Child | i am a war |
| 23:55.05 | bluspacecow | i thought ww2 started in 1939 didn't it ? |
| 23:55.39 | Thunder_Child | not for the us |
| 23:55.47 | Thunder_Child | thats when pearl harbor was |
| 23:55.51 | mojosdojo- | 1. sept 1939 |
| 23:55.51 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 23:56.06 | bluspacecow | i thought world war would imply the start date would be for the world >_> |
| 23:59.22 | Thunder_Child | holy crap the skys just opened up with a huge ammount of water |
