| 00:17.18 | mckenziemc | why does wow load an addons files before its saved variables, versus the other way around? |
| 00:21.44 | Fisker | Hax haste |
| 00:23.31 | haste | Fisker: aaw, no flame on the forum :( |
| 00:24.42 | Fisker | :( |
| 00:25.25 | Fisker | Hey haste |
| 00:25.48 | Fisker | My package is on its way :) |
| 00:26.07 | haste | so you'll have it in 7hours? |
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| 00:26.50 | Fisker | Maybe |
| 00:27.30 | vithos | mckenziemc: probably because it can't know that there are saved variables until it reads the .toc |
| 00:27.48 | Iriel | It's read the toc on startup |
| 00:27.58 | Iriel | but mostly it's because it lets the addon set useful defaults |
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| 00:28.10 | Iriel | at least, that's been my conclusion |
| 00:28.16 | Iriel | (That's how FrameXML uses it) |
| 00:28.36 | Fisker | Hey Iriel |
| 00:28.47 | Iriel | Hello Fisker, how's the sickness? |
| 00:28.56 | Iriel | (whatever sickness you might or might not have) |
| 00:29.53 | Fisker | :O |
| 00:30.12 | Fisker | I lost 1kr haste |
| 00:30.45 | Fisker | Bought one of the apps on discount |
| 00:31.03 | haste | ;o |
| 00:31.07 | Fisker | But it went all like NAW |
| 00:31.33 | Fisker | So i bought it again and it worked |
| 00:32.00 | Fisker | Now they gave it to me for free :( |
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| 00:49.03 | Arrowmaster | i would paste this xbox ambassador chat question i just got but theres way too much personal info in it that anybody could steal this kids account |
| 00:49.20 | Fisker | K |
| 00:49.34 | Arrowmaster | you want it in a private message? |
| 00:51.28 | kullervo | remove private info and pastebin for us all to see? |
| 00:53.27 | Arrowmaster | kid basically gives his moms email, his email, and his password in the question |
| 00:53.55 | Arrowmaster | and the emails are full names, not aliases |
| 01:03.27 | kullervo | uhuh |
| 01:12.19 | Dagmar | So... what's he wearing? |
| 01:12.54 | Dagmar | Hopefully something with built-in rocket-lasers, but it never seems to work out that way. |
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| 01:29.25 | Arrowmaster | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0wG96GG6ccw |
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| 02:04.18 | Shirik | Arrowmaster, wtf |
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| 02:10.41 | durcyn | tell me that's not rick perry and i'll consider clicking |
| 02:11.29 | Arrowmaster | lol its not |
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| 02:14.56 | mckenziemc | hey blu |
| 02:15.28 | durcyn | Arrowmaster: his original hate video is up to 500,000 dislikes, for whatever that's actually worth |
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| 02:36.32 | bluspacecow | work tiems. |
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| 03:08.13 | Jamash | boot sectors are tricky |
| 03:08.16 | Jamash | very tricky |
| 03:08.57 | Jamash | have a friend's laptop with the remnant of a rootkit on it and I'm trying to wipe it clean and replace all suspect boot data with fresh copies |
| 03:09.31 | Jamash | without destroying the HP recovery partition |
| 03:11.45 | Kaylin | can't you just take a windows cd boot off the cd into the recovery console and get rid of the mbr detect the bootable partitions and make a new one |
| 03:12.01 | BlackNet | anyone know how to mirror image a frame? |
| 03:13.31 | Jamash | Kaylin: yeah if I had a windows CD |
| 03:13.43 | Jamash | Mickeysoft doesn't supply them with computers anymore |
| 03:14.28 | Kaylin | oh :( |
| 03:14.32 | Jamash | I tried saving the partition layout, wiping sectors 0-62, restoring the partition layout and installing a fresh MBR but then windows wouldn't boot |
| 03:15.05 | Jamash | I'm concerned that the rootkit put something important somewhere else |
| 03:15.27 | Kaylin | you use a tool like rootkit revealer? |
| 03:15.37 | BlackNet | which rootkit |
| 03:15.50 | mckenziemc | hp recovery partition ;) |
| 03:15.52 | Arrowmaster | download an oem windows iso and reinstall from that using the key on the sticker on the case |
| 03:16.10 | Kaylin | also what OS? |
| 03:16.38 | Sintacks | my brother has 28 addons updates... |
| 03:16.51 | Sintacks | this is the only reason i want curse premium |
| 03:16.55 | Sintacks | to press a button once |
| 03:17.03 | BlackNet | it does it for you actually. |
| 03:17.16 | Sintacks | well, i would have to press a few buttons |
| 03:17.19 | Jamash | vistar :( |
| 03:17.21 | Sintacks | and close and restart curse |
| 03:17.27 | Sintacks | cuz it doesn't like mapped network drives |
| 03:17.29 | Sintacks | that go offline |
| 03:17.30 | Jamash | I have Hiren's Boot CD which is pretty rad |
| 03:17.36 | BlackNet | runs in the sys tray and downloads/installs updates as they hit |
| 03:17.53 | Sintacks | for a local wow install, yes. |
| 03:18.03 | Sintacks | but for a networked drive that goes on and offline, it loses it |
| 03:18.10 | Sintacks | and doesn't "find it" until you restart curse |
| 03:18.10 | Jamash | don't use a mapped network drive |
| 03:18.16 | Kaylin | oh hey that's a question |
| 03:18.18 | Sintacks | his wow is on another computer .... |
| 03:18.20 | Kaylin | I have a mapped network drive |
| 03:18.24 | Jamash | so run wow on that computer |
| 03:18.27 | Jamash | I mean curse client |
| 03:18.33 | Kaylin | can I backup windows to that with windows backup? |
| 03:18.44 | BlackNet | yes |
| 03:18.48 | Sintacks | he would never update his addons if i put curse on his computer |
| 03:18.50 | Jamash | it depends |
| 03:19.04 | Jamash | some versions of windows will back up your non-executable files only |
| 03:19.17 | Jamash | because real backup is for people who paid more money |
| 03:19.32 | Sintacks | I need to reinstall windows again |
| 03:19.39 | Sintacks | and make an image of it after i get shit setup |
| 03:19.44 | Sintacks | so i don't have to do that shit again |
| 03:21.49 | Jamash | yes |
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| 03:39.21 | Jamash | Sintacks: use a remote administration tool to install curse client as a hidden program |
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| 03:40.16 | Jamash | or use dropbox or somesuch to replicate the addons folder |
| 03:41.03 | clever | personaly, i use git to store my addons and the saved variables |
| 03:41.28 | clever | aslong as i commit&push before changing to another pc, there are no merge problems and it lets me sync the saved variables cross-syste |
| 03:41.35 | Jamash | or hit your brother over the head with a clue-by-four |
| 03:42.25 | Xinhuan | dropbox automates that for you :) |
| 03:42.52 | clever | dropbox seems to like to eat bandwidth when i move files within the dropbox |
| 03:43.01 | clever | and git lets me keep a history for undo stuff |
| 03:43.46 | airtonix | so does dropbox but not as good as git does |
| 03:44.19 | clever | i do use dropbox for other things, but one of the linked systems has little free disk space |
| 03:44.21 | airtonix | dropbox versioning is pretty much like : file-version1 file-version-2 |
| 03:44.27 | clever | i dont want to flood it with saved variables |
| 03:45.04 | clever | now, time to take a joke and make it usefull! |
| 03:45.04 | clever | 26 03:37:40< Mike-N-Go> I found a fun command for in WoW: "/run WorldFrame:Hide()" it really helps out your FPS! |
| 03:45.17 | airtonix | wish dropbox let you create repos inside so you can specify on certain computers what repo to sync on your account |
| 03:45.53 | airtonix | but then sparkleshare came along |
| 03:45.56 | Jamash | ...you can? |
| 03:46.04 | airtonix | no Jamash |
| 03:46.13 | Jamash | you can |
| 03:46.14 | airtonix | it's either sync the entire account or nothing |
| 03:46.19 | Jamash | bzzt incorrect |
| 03:46.35 | Jamash | preferences -> advanced -> selective sync |
| 03:46.41 | airtonix | ok go install dropbox on a new computer and choose to only sync certain folders from remote |
| 03:46.45 | Jamash | okay |
| 03:46.46 | Jamash | I just did |
| 03:46.49 | Jamash | BAM |
| 03:46.54 | clever | hmmm, /run WorldFrame:Hide() doesnt work in a macro |
| 03:46.55 | airtonix | i hate you |
| 03:46.59 | clever | has that changed recently? |
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| 03:47.05 | airtonix | you must be a vim user |
| 03:47.08 | Jamash | hate is a kind of love |
| 03:47.25 | Jamash | also vim is for cannibalistic lobsterboys |
| 03:47.30 | airtonix | i threw you on the ground |
| 03:48.12 | airtonix | Jamash: you mean norwegians? |
| 03:48.19 | Jamash | yeah sure |
| 03:48.24 | Jamash | airtonix: https://www.dropbox.com/help/175 |
| 03:48.50 | airtonix | looking for to seeing bill and teds adventure 3 ? |
| 03:50.10 | clever | anybody know much about the WorldFrame? |
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| 03:57.10 | clever | ah, found my problem |
| 03:57.12 | clever | Hide, not hide |
| 03:58.53 | clever | ok, next question, all my keybindings fail when the worldframe is hiden, lol |
| 03:58.59 | clever | any way to fix that? |
| 03:59.48 | mckenziemc | don't hide the world frame? o.o |
| 04:00.06 | durcyn | "I've done something stupid, how do I alter reality to make it not stupid?" |
| 04:00.36 | clever | i'm trying to turn the worldframe off to make it not lag like crap and give 0.5 fps |
| 04:00.42 | clever | but its kinda useless if all my keybindings cease to work |
| 04:02.08 | clever | and it seems to not have any actual effect on my fps, like WoW continues to render the 3d world even with the frame hidden |
| 04:06.24 | Arrowmaster | reduce the size of it instead |
| 04:07.26 | clever | let me try that |
| 04:07.39 | Jamash | are you trying to run wow on a 486 or something? |
| 04:09.00 | Arrowmaster | i should try that some day |
| 04:09.09 | clever | Jamash: core2duo 1.67ghz |
| 04:09.17 | Kaylin | I have a 100 mhz pentium downstairs |
| 04:09.21 | clever | model name : Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2300 @ 1.66GHz |
| 04:09.24 | clever | to be exact |
| 04:09.35 | Arrowmaster | i have a 486 that still gets used |
| 04:09.57 | clever | i only stopped using my P2 recently because it cant see both the pata and sata drives at once |
| 04:10.03 | clever | if i manage to fix one, the other vanishes |
| 04:10.46 | Kaylin | I also have a PowerPC! it's from 1991, it's really sexy I know it still posts bc I can hear the system bell but I don't have a monitor for it |
| 04:11.41 | Kaylin | I found it at work a few years ago and the owner gave it to me, it was his like music editing machine, it has dual cd burners(one internal) and 512mb ram in 32 mb sticks, and like 1/2 gig hdd, it's sexy |
| 04:12.37 | clever | Arrowmaster: i forget how to resize things, lol |
| 04:12.55 | clever | ah, SetWidth and SetHeight |
| 04:14.05 | clever | hmmm, doesnt seem to work |
| 04:15.16 | clever | doesnt do anything, not even an error |
| 04:15.31 | Arrowmaster | SetPoint |
| 04:15.53 | clever | didnt think i had to set points if i was just changing size, but let me try that next |
| 04:16.58 | clever | ok, that kinda worked |
| 04:17.22 | clever | its now super short, but still full width |
| 04:18.01 | clever | ah, arguments mixed up |
| 04:18.40 | clever | still not right :( |
| 04:19.53 | clever | hmmm, ClearAllPoints hid it without breaking keybinds! |
| 04:20.55 | clever | /run WorldFrame:SetPoint("TOPLEFT",10,10) |
| 04:21.05 | clever | doesnt seem to be effecting the top edge, just the left |
| 04:21.19 | Ackis | +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++km,,,,,,,,,,,' |
| 04:21.35 | mckenziemc | get the cat of your keyboard ackis |
| 04:21.39 | mckenziemc | off* |
| 04:22.36 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 04:24.19 | Kaylin | it's a druid, and it doesn't want to move |
| 04:24.40 | clever | aha!, -50, not 50!! |
| 04:26.42 | mckenziemc | doh |
| 04:27.04 | mckenziemc | i just realized the python script i wrote to hash files was using a block size much smaller than i meant :( |
| 04:27.36 | clever | Arrowmaster: hard to tell if its helping any |
| 04:27.52 | mckenziemc | 2 ^ 24 vs 2 ** 24 |
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| 04:58.31 | Ackis | ?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?:?: |
| 04:58.45 | clever | Ackis: is your feral druid on the keyboard again? |
| 04:58.56 | Jamash | so I used BootICE to rebuild the MBR, the PBR and the BCD and now it's working |
| 05:00.46 | Jamash | step one was sfdisk -d /dev/sda > partitiontable.txt, step two was dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=63, step three was sfdisk /dev/sda < partitiontable.txt, then step four was BootICE |
| 05:01.14 | Jamash | MSE now reports no residual infection |
| 05:02.47 | Jamash | windows is so easy to use and administer huh guys |
| 05:04.01 | Jamash | looks like I need to rebuild the recovery partition too |
| 05:06.24 | pompy | Jamash: get hit with a virus or something? |
| 05:06.44 | clever | reminds me of something that happened about a year ago |
| 05:07.00 | clever | the computer blue-screened and then refused to boot, MBR was fried |
| 05:07.14 | clever | i managed to fix it by installing GRUB to a floppy and chain-loading windows |
| 05:07.29 | clever | a few months later, windows tells me i have an MBR virus!, about bloody time :P |
| 05:07.47 | clever | it also deleted every trace of it, so i have no way to verify what it claims |
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| 05:09.55 | KarlKFI | TACOS! |
| 05:12.12 | KarlKFI | Location priorities for my new apartment include: BART, Target and Tacos. In that order. |
| 05:27.56 | bluspacecow | that's a skillful cat right there |
| 05:28.11 | bluspacecow | being able to do the ; key and the shift / for the ? |
| 05:29.18 | Kaylin | my cat is highly skilled in anything that annoys me |
| 05:29.22 | Kaylin | also naps |
| 05:29.41 | karl_w_w | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3711311271?page=1#13 /facepalm |
| 05:33.32 | mckenziemc1 | ? |
| 05:38.12 | Jamash | pompy: friend did |
| 05:38.18 | Jamash | I'm fixing it for her |
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| 05:47.02 | airtonix | Jamash: but you use linux, so you're not modern, therefore not competent in windows, therefore not trendy, since you don't use macs |
| 05:47.14 | airtonix | and you use vim |
| 05:47.17 | airtonix | so you suck |
| 05:49.16 | airtonix | Jamash: don't die on me |
| 05:50.07 | mckenziemc1 | yawns |
| 05:52.44 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3709661459 |
| 05:52.52 | bluspacecow | interesting thread , not sure how to respond. |
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| 06:03.34 | Kaylin | IDK, I don't like EULAs, I just don't see why he's posting if not to brag about it, it doesn't seem like he has any sort of tech issue. |
| 06:04.07 | bluspacecow | afaik blizzard's won 2 high profile cases using it. |
| 06:05.08 | Kaylin | they did, which was hilarious, but what they argued iirc was copyright infringement, it's not |
| 06:05.08 | Kaylin | "illegal" per say, not in the way murder is, it's not breaking the law it's breaking the terms of use. |
| 06:05.17 | Jamash | wut |
| 06:05.49 | Jamash | the SC2 EULA is the nefarious one |
| 06:06.03 | Kaylin | in any case that's between them and apple, I don't see why we shouldn't help people who need it. |
| 06:06.25 | Kaylin | EULAs are usually dumb anyway, though I understand why the exist. |
| 06:06.27 | Kaylin | they* |
| 06:06.29 | Jamash | running wow on wine isn't officially supported either but you can get help on the tech support forum |
| 06:06.49 | Jamash | and it's not the responsibility of the wow forums to enforce apple's eula |
| 06:07.23 | Kaylin | ^ |
| 06:11.54 | mckenziemc1 | per se, by the way |
| 06:12.09 | Kaylin | that's true |
| 06:12.30 | Kaylin | since it's not english |
| 06:13.19 | bluspacecow | like that guy yesterday "can you copy runescape characaters to wow" |
| 06:13.21 | bluspacecow | LOL |
| 06:17.07 | Kaylin | so, anyone have a favorite development environment or editor? because atm I use notepad and it is pretty um, not full featured. |
| 06:17.45 | mckenziemc1 | i use notepad++ |
| 06:18.02 | airtonix | you suck though |
| 06:18.07 | mckenziemc1 | not the greatest perhaps but it works |
| 06:18.10 | mckenziemc1 | vacuums airtonix |
| 06:18.16 | airtonix | yeah notepad++ sucks |
| 06:18.23 | airtonix | it's not even as awesome as gedit |
| 06:19.09 | BlackNet | anyone know the event that triggers when you change the 'show on backpack' for your currency? |
| 06:24.52 | Seerah | BlackNet: probably http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/CVAR_UPDATE type /eventtrace and click the box again to see. |
| 06:25.47 | BlackNet | lemme get out of trade district first :) |
| 06:25.54 | BlackNet | will be a bazillion of them |
| 06:27.07 | BlackNet | nothing |
| 06:27.36 | BlackNet | damnit, im going to have to hook into the stupid frame |
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| 06:30.34 | BlackNet | looks like it is TokenFramePopup |
| 06:35.51 | Shirik | omfg |
| 06:35.56 | Shirik | the skyrim developers are evil |
| 06:36.09 | Arrowmaster | what now? |
| 06:36.32 | Shirik | they created a rock-paper-scissors-like puzzle that does absolutely nothing except make you think you're solving a puzzle |
| 06:36.49 | Arrowmaster | which? |
| 06:37.22 | Shirik | Pelagius |
| 06:38.05 | Shirik | http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Mind_of_Madness - Paranoi |
| 06:38.08 | Shirik | Paranoia |
| 06:38.22 | Arrowmaster | eww wikia |
| 06:38.28 | Shirik | I just took the first google link |
| 06:38.31 | Shirik | but seriously |
| 06:38.33 | Shirik | I spent like |
| 06:38.39 | Shirik | 10 minutes trying to figure out why I can't win this |
| 06:38.44 | Shirik | and then got mad and shot something |
| 06:38.57 | Shirik | and instantly puzzle solved and the guy goes "hoho, I thought you would never figure it out!" |
| 06:39.10 | Shirik | and then *headdesk* |
| 06:39.45 | Shirik | they literally nerdsniped me :( |
| 06:39.48 | Arrowmaster | what did you shoot? |
| 06:40.00 | Shirik | I was shooting the monsters on the ground |
| 06:40.07 | Shirik | trying to win rock paper scissors |
| 06:40.13 | Shirik | which it does a very good job of faking |
| 06:40.15 | Jamash | you can use google blocked sites to prevent wiki from showing up |
| 06:40.22 | Jamash | *wikia |
| 06:41.08 | Jamash | so you're saying that you got trolled by your computer |
| 06:41.31 | Arrowmaster | ive not done it but reading that page doesnt indicate any kinda decision or puzzle |
| 06:43.55 | Jamash | yes |
| 06:43.58 | Jamash | it's a fake puzzle |
| 06:45.22 | Arrowmaster | oh the paranoia part |
| 06:46.02 | Arrowmaster | sounds like its not a fake puzzle |
| 06:48.00 | bluspacecow | i just see the designers going "this will drive shirik mad hahahahah trollface.jpg u mad shirik?" |
| 06:48.07 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: It is |
| 06:48.15 | Shirik | It's blatantly obvious now that I see it ._. |
| 06:48.20 | Shirik | yes bluspacecow |
| 06:48.23 | Shirik | that is exactly what they said |
| 06:48.25 | Jamash | it's a puzzle and the solution is to figure out that the obvious puzzle is not the real puzzle |
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| 06:49.01 | Arrowmaster | you were making it sound like it didnt matter what you did, whichever you did was the correct choice |
| 06:49.19 | Arrowmaster | which is one of the dark brotherhood quests |
| 06:49.27 | Jamash | SPIOLARZ |
| 06:49.34 | Arrowmaster | thats all im saying |
| 06:49.40 | Shirik | it's ok I already know that one actually |
| 06:49.53 | Shirik | because the person who got me involved was doing a bunch of dark brotherhood stuff |
| 06:50.33 | Dagmar | You should have taken into account that you were working for someone who is completely balmy. |
| 06:50.54 | Shirik | hm, I never heard "balmy" used that way |
| 06:53.26 | Dagmar | Well, he ain't just a _little_ crazy |
| 06:53.44 | Dagmar | He's completely nuts even compared to other daedra |
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| 07:10.46 | BlackNet | LOL |
| 07:10.54 | BlackNet | gotta love it when you see code like this |
| 07:11.03 | BlackNet | - --Fuck I bet this taints. |
| 07:11.03 | BlackNet | - --ExtraActionBarFrame.SetPoint = E.noop; ExtraActionBarFrame.ClearAllPoints = E.noop; |
| 07:19.19 | bluspacecow | lolz at that guy playing skyrim pacifist style |
| 07:19.27 | bluspacecow | going around calming everything |
| 07:20.45 | mckenziemc1 | lolz at bluspacecow |
| 07:22.44 | bluspacecow | ~whalefart purl |
| 07:22.44 | purl | ACTION replaces the nitrogen in purl 's scuba tank with compressed whale fart |
| 07:22.54 | bluspacecow | lolz at prul |
| 07:22.57 | bluspacecow | purl |
| 07:23.20 | mckenziemc1 | O.o |
| 07:24.31 | mckenziemc1 | ~factlist (cmd:?) whale |
| 07:25.43 | Thunder_Child | factinfo CMD: whalefart (.*?) |
| 07:25.47 | Thunder_Child | ~factinfo CMD: whalefart (.*?) |
| 07:25.47 | purl | cmd: whalefart (.*?) -- created by sjansen <~sjansen@ip65-44-231-178.z231-44-65.customer.algx.net> at Tue Dec 7 19:23:47 2010 (367 days); it has been requested 3 times, last by bluspacecow, 3m 3s ago. |
| 07:26.35 | Thunder_Child | no list as far as i can tell mckenziemc1 |
| 07:40.46 | bluspacecow | kk i go homes nows |
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| 08:39.39 | mikma | fisker: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/1_u_mad.gif |
| 08:54.37 | Fisker | øhey |
| 08:59.21 | mikma | ubro? |
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| 09:54.14 | mckenziemc1 | i thought you were going home |
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| 09:56.47 | airtonix | http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/12/closer-look-at-10-billion-downloads.html |
| 09:56.50 | airtonix | umad? |
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| 15:34.57 | Stanzilla | another new putty release |
| 15:35.03 | Stanzilla | what happened to the world |
| 15:36.09 | Fisker | haha jnwhiteh |
| 15:36.21 | Fisker | i'm happy Google was remembering me for 30 days |
| 15:36.26 | Fisker | forgot that oem unlock wipes my device |
| 15:36.36 | Fisker | including the google authenticator i had :( |
| 15:36.47 | Fisker | wtf Stanzilla |
| 15:36.52 | Fisker | not sure if srs |
| 15:40.27 | Stanzilla | Fisker: srs |
| 15:42.08 | Fisker | :O |
| 15:42.27 | Fisker | oh god |
| 15:42.30 | Fisker | google knows my name |
| 15:44.42 | Fisker | btw Stanzilla |
| 15:44.52 | Fisker | phone network wouldn't allow my phone on the network :O |
| 15:45.00 | Stanzilla | why |
| 15:45.26 | Fisker | idk |
| 15:45.37 | Fisker | took like 5 hours before my phone could get on the phone network |
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| 15:50.15 | Fisker | btw i can use android market without accepting the TOS |
| 15:50.16 | Fisker | omg |
| 15:51.17 | Synycyl | Is there anyone available that could assist me with toggling an LDBIcon hidden state? |
| 15:52.37 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: k |
| 15:52.57 | Fisker | ujelly |
| 15:53.37 | Synycyl | If added a slash command that operates a function to use icon:Hide("Iconname") or icon:Show("Iconname") but at this moment when I type the command and hit enter it doesn't actually submit the command. It remains in the text entry field of the text box. if I delete a letter from the command it passes through properly. |
| 15:55.13 | amro | enable lua errors |
| 15:55.23 | amro | if it doesn't clear the textbox, it's because there was an error |
| 15:56.47 | Synycyl | ahh ok thanks... I see what its doing. getting nil on the shDB table created hrm... |
| 15:56.53 | Synycyl | Little bit of a derp there sorry |
| 15:57.15 | amro | jnwhiteh: how's the patch? |
| 15:57.20 | jnwhiteh | nt up |
| 15:57.21 | jnwhiteh | not up |
| 15:57.38 | amro | oh my lols |
| 15:57.49 | jnwhiteh | they had a network issue |
| 15:57.51 | amro | someone needs to learn that 2 patches in one day doesn't work |
| 15:57.56 | jnwhiteh | 300Kbs upstream |
| 15:58.04 | jnwhiteh | they couldn't push data anywhere |
| 15:58.05 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 15:58.25 | amro | I wonder why they did it, though. I get the feeling that they push way too many patches |
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| 16:06.40 | Dark_Elf | bah my tooltip is froze to the screen and wont leave |
| 16:09.39 | airtonix | sleeping beuaty is a strange movie |
| 16:10.46 | Synycyl | the scope of a local within a function is limited to only that function correct? |
| 16:13.46 | [Wobin] | yes |
| 16:14.03 | airtonix | hey Fisker, my name is boon and i'm here to take over your game |
| 16:15.41 | Fisker | mad? |
| 16:17.30 | airtonix | iboon |
| 16:17.32 | Synycyl | I belive that my addon is at a severe disadvantage with LibDBIcon because I haven't written the entire addon using the ACE3 libraries... I only use the LibDBIcon and can't seem to use the icon:Show() or icon:Hide() |
| 16:18.48 | Synycyl | i love the LibDBIcon Library and it works great, but I can't seem to figure out how to show/hide the icon without ACE3 code |
| 16:20.59 | Dark_Elf | the api give example |
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| 16:22.03 | Synycyl | the api gives an example using Ace3 code. I don't use Ace3. I added the LibDBIcon support long after writing the addon :\ |
| 16:22.31 | Synycyl | I had to get Rabbit to directly assist me in getting LibDBIcon to work properly within my addon as it is... I'll probably have to contact him directly again |
| 16:22.53 | Dark_Elf | http://www.wowace.com/addons/libdbicon-1-0/ |
| 16:25.19 | Synycyl | "So in conclusion, here is a complete Ace3 example of how to use this library" |
| 16:25.20 | Synycyl | to qutoe that site "So in conclusion, here is a complete Ace3 example of how to use this library" |
| 16:25.33 | Synycyl | srry for that spamming... my irc goofed |
| 16:25.49 | [Wobin] | I don't get it |
| 16:25.55 | Dark_Elf | what wrong with using ace3? |
| 16:26.21 | [Wobin] | LibDBIcon is for LDB modules... right? |
| 16:27.34 | Dark_Elf | i see what u saying i think it could be done without ace |
| 16:28.41 | Dark_Elf | as long as u have the minimap setting db set |
| 16:28.42 | [Wobin] | :Show() and :Hide() are part of the libdbicon library |
| 16:28.48 | [Wobin] | not ace3 |
| 16:29.06 | Dark_Elf | still would have to have libstub though |
| 16:29.13 | [Wobin] | well, yes |
| 16:29.18 | [Wobin] | but that goes without saying |
| 16:29.27 | [Wobin] | and it's already part of the libdb package |
| 16:29.57 | Synycyl | yes i know, but the example only shows how to do it using Ace. when I try to access my shDB it claims it is nil, but I'm looking at the icon right now that uses the shDB savevartable |
| 16:30.40 | Synycyl | Dark_Elf: Nothing against Ace3... I just don't feel like completely rewriting my entire addon over a mini map button I didn't want to add, but did at the request of my users. :) |
| 16:31.08 | [Wobin] | eh, |
| 16:31.14 | [Wobin] | I can't help without seeing code |
| 16:31.19 | [Wobin] | talking about it is pointless |
| 16:31.29 | nevcairiel | All that LibDBIcon needs is a table to store its setting in, in no way its otherwise related to Ace3 |
| 16:31.46 | [Wobin] | ^ |
| 16:31.54 | nevcairiel | in the example, it just uses a AceDB managed table to do that |
| 16:32.05 | nevcairiel | and well the AceAddon provided events to set ev erything up |
| 16:32.16 | nevcairiel | but you dont need that |
| 16:32.31 | nevcairiel | The text above already tells you what to do |
| 16:32.38 | nevcairiel | the Ace3 example doesnt add anything new |
| 16:32.49 | Synycyl | i'm creating a paste for this so that we can discuss it more thoroughly :) |
| 16:34.12 | Synycyl | http://www.wowace.com/paste/4362/ The code I'm trying to work with is the second to the last function |
| 16:34.42 | jnwhiteh | amro: ping me if the patch drops =) |
| 16:35.28 | jnwhiteh | amro: ah, looks like it should be going down 'soonish' |
| 16:35.29 | Synycyl | the line that says self.db.profile.minimap.hide was set as shDB.hide |
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| 16:35.46 | [Wobin] | Synycyl: you don't ever define shDB |
| 16:36.34 | JerichoHM | Ok so that should go up into my global variable area? |
| 16:36.59 | JerichoHM | sorry... I remember Rabbit asking me to use my publishing name in IRC lol |
| 16:37.03 | JerichoHM | <- synycyl |
| 16:37.44 | amro | jnwhiteh: actually I'm on linux where my install broke again with the last patch, so I won't be able to check |
| 16:37.56 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 16:39.04 | Dark_Elf | set it as minimap.hide |
| 16:39.52 | JerichoHM | now that I have shDB defined up top it's telling me that icon is a nil value |
| 16:40.07 | Dark_Elf | or change shDB.profile.hide or something |
| 16:40.10 | JerichoHM | thats because the scope of icon is within the shMiniMap function |
| 16:40.55 | Dark_Elf | ah skillhelper i just had a error with that |
| 16:41.05 | JerichoHM | :) you did what was it? |
| 16:41.26 | airtonix | why would you ... i mean wtf... this is incomprehensible...i can't even.... |
| 16:41.33 | JerichoHM | I just had to do a cleanup of the code cause i had remnants of the auto hide in combat feature i removed |
| 16:41.52 | Dark_Elf | not error but need a feature |
| 16:42.12 | Dark_Elf | seems the smelting icon dont show near mining |
| 16:42.53 | JerichoHM | yea I noticed that also Dark_Elf I've been meaning to look at it lol |
| 16:43.19 | Dark_Elf | love the addon though i use those icons to click the tradeskill pretty handy |
| 16:43.32 | airtonix | i love clicking stuff too lol |
| 16:44.04 | JerichoHM | Thanks :) I'm still working on other plans, but I keep getting small requests that seem to take forever to get working right... this minimap button has been my bane |
| 16:45.28 | JerichoHM | I've been trying to fix something in my Durability Helper addon that doesn't make sense. That one has very similar code to Skill Helper yet occasionally when you drag it the bars don't move but the background frame does >.< |
| 16:49.21 | JerichoHM | i wonder if doing all that minimap work in the function is the major thing breaking it |
| 16:51.08 | Dark_Elf | i dont even see where u set up the db |
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| 16:55.36 | JerichoHM | TBH I actually have never used a db in Lua so don't fully understand the Lua tables/db quite yet (but I'm learning when WoW doesn't interfere lol) and additionally Rabbit gave me a lot of help in writing this icon code and I'm not exactly 100% on how it even works |
| 16:56.08 | Dark_Elf | maybe something like local db = {profile = {minimap = { hide = false, }, } |
| 16:56.15 | [Wobin] | well |
| 16:56.23 | [Wobin] | if the savedvariable doesn't exist |
| 16:56.25 | [Wobin] | it'll always be nil |
| 16:56.35 | [Wobin] | until the first time you initialise it |
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| 16:57.55 | [Wobin] | try something like if shDB == nil then shDB = {} end |
| 16:58.15 | Dark_Elf | or just local shdb |
| 16:58.59 | JerichoHM | Yeah I added the local shDB to the top in my "GLOBALS" section |
| 16:59.05 | [Wobin] | well yes, that'll make the addon work |
| 16:59.10 | [Wobin] | but it won't save any changes |
| 16:59.38 | [Wobin] | you still have to link it to the global shDB |
| 16:59.51 | Dark_Elf | also have it in toc |
| 16:59.54 | [Wobin] | (and you might want to make the name a bit more specific, like SkillsHelperDB) |
| 16:59.59 | JerichoHM | it is in the TOC yes |
| 17:00.02 | [Wobin] | to prevent any future collisions |
| 17:00.12 | [Wobin] | since you can use any local name reference to it |
| 17:00.53 | [Wobin] | and it'll be more recognisable in the SV folder that way |
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| 17:01.10 | JerichoHM | with shDB properly defined the nil value moves to icon on line 439. icon:Show("SkillHelper") |
| 17:02.40 | [Wobin] | because you've defined icon as being a local |
| 17:02.47 | JerichoHM | trying to put the loader outside of the function to see what happens |
| 17:02.51 | [Wobin] | in that specific scope of the shMinimap function |
| 17:03.16 | [Wobin] | so it no longer exists past execution of that function |
| 17:05.35 | JerichoHM | yeah I've basically pulled that whole function out now and put it up at the top with my definitions... it loaded properly now i'm playing in the shDB table again |
| 17:06.49 | JerichoHM | back to icon being a nil value after defining shDB = { hide = false } |
| 17:07.01 | JerichoHM | i'll put up a new paste |
| 17:07.43 | JerichoHM | http://www.wowace.com/paste/4363/ there is the code as it is now |
| 17:08.47 | [Wobin] | icon is still being defined within an internal scope |
| 17:08.49 | [Wobin] | of the if statement |
| 17:09.11 | [Wobin] | add in 'local icon' under 'local shDB' |
| 17:09.28 | [Wobin] | also, you're hiding the global definition of your SavedVariable |
| 17:09.30 | [Wobin] | so it won't ever save |
| 17:10.17 | Dark_Elf | wonder if local shDB.hide = false would work |
| 17:10.22 | JerichoHM | last time i defined icon it threw the error out to another addon using the LibDBIcon library |
| 17:10.55 | [Wobin] | http://www.wowace.com/paste/4365/ |
| 17:10.57 | [Wobin] | try that |
| 17:11.09 | JerichoHM | yeah.. having icon as a local to my addon causes the next addon using LibDBIcon to error |
| 17:11.58 | [Wobin] | o.O |
| 17:12.03 | [Wobin] | try renaming it |
| 17:12.08 | [Wobin] | to shIcon or something |
| 17:12.24 | JerichoHM | Dark_Elf that just changes the variable but it won't actually perform the show/hide functions |
| 17:12.56 | JerichoHM | [Wobin] trying the rename thing now |
| 17:13.21 | [Wobin] | if the scope remains local to the file, it shouldn't affect any other implementation |
| 17:14.13 | JerichoHM | still went out to the next LibDBIcon addon... |
| 17:14.39 | JerichoHM | It's because the LibDBIcon information is stored in the libraries variables and not my own technically |
| 17:15.17 | [Wobin] | what's the error you're getting? |
| 17:15.54 | JerichoHM | http://www.wowace.com/paste/4366/ |
| 17:16.20 | JerichoHM | remember to ignore the fact that it's in Bartender4. It's in the LibDBIcon that I've broken things lol |
| 17:18.07 | [Wobin] | can you repaste your current code? |
| 17:18.43 | JerichoHM | yeah one sec (i've changed shIcon back to icon because its the same error either way |
| 17:19.04 | JerichoHM | http://www.wowace.com/paste/4363/ |
| 17:20.08 | JerichoHM | i'm completely stumped lol |
| 17:20.38 | [Wobin] | ah |
| 17:20.51 | [Wobin] | "SkillHellper" |
| 17:20.59 | [Wobin] | 465 and 467 |
| 17:21.08 | JerichoHM | ? |
| 17:21.14 | [Wobin] | only one l in helper |
| 17:21.31 | JerichoHM | ZOMG if thats it... i'm gonna stab my foot lol |
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| 17:21.51 | amro | jnwhiteh: the update thread is a good read if you want to lose faith in humanity |
| 17:22.12 | [Wobin] | the reason libdbicon bugs out is that it can't find the entry for SkillHellper |
| 17:22.26 | JerichoHM | hahahha holy shit that was it -.- |
| 17:22.48 | JerichoHM | Thanks a million to [Wobin] and Dark_Elf for the help on this one! |
| 17:23.04 | JerichoHM | oh wait hold on a sec -.- |
| 17:23.12 | JerichoHM | it re showed lol |
| 17:23.18 | [Wobin] | yeah |
| 17:23.20 | [Wobin] | one sec |
| 17:23.33 | JerichoHM | probably gotta redo that function |
| 17:23.57 | Dark_Elf | i did not help, just throw out unworking ideas so just thank Wobin |
| 17:24.28 | [Wobin] | http://www.wowace.com/paste/4367/ |
| 17:24.47 | [Wobin] | specifically lines 13 and 240 |
| 17:25.09 | [Wobin] | also, you might want to move the function back, yeah |
| 17:25.19 | [Wobin] | so it gets called at the appropriate time, when the db actually gets loaded in |
| 17:25.37 | [Wobin] | (on ADDON_LOADED) |
| 17:26.04 | [Wobin] | line 13 just creates a local reference to the global one |
| 17:26.28 | [Wobin] | otherwise you'll work with a variable that's not actually connected in any way to the SV |
| 17:26.35 | JerichoHM | doing a final test |
| 17:26.58 | JerichoHM | and Dark_Elf don't sell yourself short. I've been workin on this for months and just giving up and going to raid lol |
| 17:27.33 | Dark_Elf | should not skillhellper be skillhelper? |
| 17:28.17 | Dark_Elf | lines 465, 467 |
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| 17:28.39 | JerichoHM | thats what [Wobin] found to fix it already Dark_Elf :) |
| 17:28.48 | Dark_Elf | ah wait that was already stated 10 minutes ago lol |
| 17:29.03 | JerichoHM | i don't copy pasta the pastes so i only edited that which need to be edited |
| 17:29.27 | JerichoHM | hrm still un hiding the mmicon |
| 17:29.46 | Dark_Elf | so it unhides instead of hides? |
| 17:30.17 | [Wobin] | you'll have to repaste =) |
| 17:30.22 | JerichoHM | well i type /shelper mmtoggle and it will hide the icon then several seconds later it comes back... |
| 17:30.37 | JerichoHM | [Wobin]: I'm trying something really quick will repaste momentarily |
| 17:31.48 | Dark_Elf | that not good it come back |
| 17:35.06 | JerichoHM | http://www.wowace.com/paste/4368/ ok that is all working but the icon reappears after several seconds |
| 17:35.27 | JerichoHM | I recreated the shMiniMap function and it all works the same |
| 17:36.49 | Dark_Elf | also if get icon working, another feature on OnClick add maybe a right shift to toggle the minimap icon |
| 17:37.27 | [Wobin] | throw in a debug statement after ADDON_LOADED? |
| 17:37.38 | [Wobin] | to see if it's re-appearing after ADDON_LOADED? |
| 17:37.51 | JerichoHM | the various clicks are setup for it left click toggle window, right click toggle lock, middle click to reset position |
| 17:39.02 | JerichoHM | ok added a debug print just after the ADDON_LOADED call to shminimap |
| 17:39.37 | JerichoHM | and holy crap... apparently ADDON_LOADED fires 20 times on reload lol |
| 17:39.43 | JerichoHM | lets test the command i spose |
| 17:39.48 | [Wobin] | ah |
| 17:40.00 | [Wobin] | you might want to filter that to only run on -your- loading =P |
| 17:40.09 | JerichoHM | :) |
| 17:40.18 | Dark_Elf | well one more click wont hurt lol |
| 17:40.28 | JerichoHM | the icon doesn't reload from the ADDON_LOADED lol |
| 17:40.55 | [Wobin] | if event == "ADDON_LOADED" and arg1 == "SkillHelper" |
| 17:41.19 | JerichoHM | :) ty |
| 17:42.26 | JerichoHM | adding more debugs to try and track this |
| 17:43.31 | JerichoHM | hrm.... that and arg1 == "SkillHelper" completely removed the ADDON_LOADED fire now |
| 17:43.56 | JerichoHM | arg1 is self i spose |
| 17:44.11 | JerichoHM | nope |
| 17:44.36 | [Wobin] | tack it into the function argument |
| 17:44.45 | [Wobin] | function shOnEvent(self, event, arg1) |
| 17:44.46 | JerichoHM | just did |
| 17:45.55 | JerichoHM | fixed that and tested the toggle. the toggle to hide debug fires, but when it reappears the toggle to show doesn't fire |
| 17:46.34 | JerichoHM | testing in my Update code |
| 17:47.33 | Dark_Elf | maybe hide = true then |
| 17:47.45 | JerichoHM | it might need to be that lol |
| 17:47.54 | JerichoHM | i figured that the Lib did that part |
| 17:49.06 | karl_w_w | you know a game is good when you start playing it and then look at your watch and suddenly 5 hours have passed |
| 17:49.09 | Dark_Elf | actually 470 to 474 could be moved up to that shevent |
| 17:50.10 | Dark_Elf | nevermind strike that statement |
| 17:51.22 | JerichoHM | ok Dark_Elf you get a point for the shDB.hide = true/false bit :) |
| 17:51.36 | JerichoHM | I'm now setting that variable in the toggle and it's working |
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| 17:52.25 | JerichoHM | and untoggling it works... it's a little slow but I can live with that lol |
| 17:52.39 | JerichoHM | now to test persistence through relog |
| 17:52.59 | Dark_Elf | yeah reload cause if it dont save after hide it not saving db |
| 17:54.01 | JerichoHM | not persistent but I know why |
| 17:54.06 | JerichoHM | i think |
| 17:54.41 | JerichoHM | you don't actually have to define a variable that is in the TOC as a saved variable |
| 17:55.06 | Dark_Elf | mumbles to self been easier with ace3 :( |
| 17:55.51 | karl_w_w | untoggling? |
| 17:55.52 | JerichoHM | I'm agreeing with you there Dark_Elf but I don't feel like rewriting my whole addon for a feature that creeped in by chance lol |
| 17:56.40 | JerichoHM | brb |
| 17:56.43 | Dark_Elf | agrees |
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| 18:00.33 | Dark_Elf | mumbles to self, if i can figure out how to get crayon to work in qtip, the world will be a safer place |
| 18:03.17 | [Wobin] | goes to sleep |
| 18:03.20 | [Wobin] | oh god >< |
| 18:03.26 | airtonix | umad [Wobin]? |
| 18:03.36 | JerichoHM | back and getting ready to do another persistence test lol |
| 18:03.36 | [Wobin] | stupid dawn |
| 18:03.48 | Trela | You could cut one end of the Q-tip off and shove the crayon over the plastic shaft of the Q-tip. |
| 18:03.57 | airtonix | wut |
| 18:04.24 | Dark_Elf | that was not what i had i mind |
| 18:04.51 | JerichoHM | -.- the hidden state is not persistent grumble grumble |
| 18:05.56 | Dark_Elf | so it hides then reloads? |
| 18:06.19 | JerichoHM | If I hide it and the logout and quit the game and log back in the icon is back |
| 18:06.55 | Dark_Elf | did u try the shDB.hide = false |
| 18:07.34 | JerichoHM | http://www.wowace.com/paste/4369/ updated the paste... |
| 18:08.01 | Dark_Elf | i should copy that and try running it in game |
| 18:08.25 | JerichoHM | it'll run... and it will hide for the duration of your session but it will not persist |
| 18:08.50 | JerichoHM | the first time you toggle it doesn't work also hrm |
| 18:09.30 | JerichoHM | the first time it kicks back on all after that the toggle command works perfectly until relog |
| 18:10.02 | JerichoHM | hrm i think i know why derp |
| 18:12.11 | Dark_Elf | loads game |
| 18:12.25 | JerichoHM | had the damn true falses set backwards too derp |
| 18:12.33 | Dark_Elf | lol |
| 18:13.59 | JerichoHM | thats interesting. the shDB.hide value isn't changing when i tell it to |
| 18:14.04 | Dark_Elf | bright side is you learned something |
| 18:18.13 | JerichoHM | something is bothering me... looking at the example on the LibDBIcon page they don't manually change the variable |
| 18:18.27 | Dark_Elf | maybe should tell it shdb.hide = true and shdb.hide = false with each toggle |
| 18:18.41 | JerichoHM | thats what i was doing |
| 18:18.52 | JerichoHM | but according to the site I shouldn't have to do that |
| 18:19.07 | Dark_Elf | no but site is using acedb |
| 18:19.07 | JerichoHM | the icon:Show and icon:Hide apparently should be handling that |
| 18:19.11 | JerichoHM | too true |
| 18:21.44 | JerichoHM | its backwards logic >.< |
| 18:22.30 | Dark_Elf | maybe try this ? if shDB.hide then icon:Hide("SkillHelper") shDB.hide = "true" else icon:Show("SkillHelper") shDB.hide = "false" end |
| 18:24.11 | JerichoHM | ok i think i might have it working now |
| 18:24.20 | Iriel | use true and false |
| 18:24.27 | Iriel | because "false" is a string, and evaluates to true |
| 18:24.27 | JerichoHM | i did/am :) |
| 18:24.47 | JerichoHM | back to a persistence test |
| 18:25.47 | Dark_Elf | i may have those backwards lol |
| 18:26.48 | Dark_Elf | or maybe it should be if not shDB.hide |
| 18:27.57 | JerichoHM | :) |
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| 18:40.06 | JerichoHM | as an FYI Dark_Elf.. editing the file on your computer will cause problems when trying to get the update when it releases :) |
| 18:42.30 | Iriel | mdKwymM? |
| 18:42.34 | Dark_Elf | i renamed it skillhelper2 but with all the changes im not gonna bother with it |
| 18:42.37 | Iriel | STUPID CAT! |
| 18:42.40 | Iriel | Sorry |
| 18:42.49 | Iriel | She has a habit of dumping herself on my keyboard |
| 18:43.01 | airtonix | good excuse |
| 18:43.03 | JerichoHM | I believe I might havethe persistence resolve |
| 18:43.14 | airtonix | i'll use that next time my face rolls on the keyboard |
| 18:43.22 | Iriel | Even when I move it to the very very edge of my desk, she doesn't flop onto the gap, she goes for the keyboard |
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| 18:43.28 | Dark_Elf | i will just wait on the download |
| 18:43.35 | airtonix | mhmm |
| 18:43.39 | airtonix | sure |
| 18:43.56 | JerichoHM | the only other thing that has gotten me is the icon toggles take a long time to take effect |
| 18:44.37 | JerichoHM | ok yeah.. it's persisten now |
| 18:44.49 | Dark_Elf | good |
| 18:45.05 | JerichoHM | but it can take up to 10 seconds to turn on and off... not sure why lol |
| 18:45.36 | Dark_Elf | maybe should put it in oninitialize |
| 18:48.11 | JerichoHM | I think that might be an Ace3 thing again :) |
| 18:53.25 | Dark_Elf | if button == "RightButton" then if IsShiftKeyDown() then shMMToggle() end shLocker() |
| 18:54.06 | JerichoHM | :) you really want that toggel eh! |
| 18:54.08 | JerichoHM | lol |
| 18:54.59 | JerichoHM | Dark was it you mentioning the smelting icon missing |
| 18:55.16 | Dark_Elf | yes it was missing last time i had character doing mining |
| 18:55.31 | Dark_Elf | i had the mining pick but no smelting |
| 18:56.02 | JerichoHM | I just discovered why :) Mining has 2 spells... Toughness and Smelting |
| 18:56.16 | Dark_Elf | awe well add both lol |
| 18:56.42 | Dark_Elf | although toughness i think is passive |
| 18:56.47 | JerichoHM | I need to make it ignore toughness all together. Smelting is there but it is hidden under the mining pick cause how it was drawn |
| 18:57.40 | JerichoHM | but i'm thinking.. the mining pick icon isn't needed cause you just right click the node so i'll remove that and smelting will be persistently available :) |
| 18:58.03 | Dark_Elf | yeah i never click the mining pick to mine |
| 18:58.43 | Dark_Elf | but u never know there may be someone who does lol |
| 18:59.07 | Iriel | I certainly dont have mining or skinning or gather herbs on my bars |
| 18:59.58 | jnwhiteh | amro: login failed, so that's something |
| 19:01.59 | JerichoHM | Yeah I'm dropping the mining icon in favor of showing the smelting icon :) |
| 19:02.45 | Dark_Elf | cant have more than 1? |
| 19:03.22 | JerichoHM | i can have 2 but specifically Mining is not one of the 2 spells for the proffession |
| 19:03.44 | JerichoHM | i kinda forced it |
| 19:04.15 | JerichoHM | and the way I handle drawing the buttons forcing the first button hid smelting until you learned toughness and smelting became a second button |
| 19:05.15 | Dark_Elf | i thought smelting was learned automatic |
| 19:05.42 | Dark_Elf | as soon as learned mining |
| 19:06.22 | Iriel | It is |
| 19:06.24 | JerichoHM | it is |
| 19:06.45 | JerichoHM | but it is identified as spell number 1 until toughness is learned |
| 19:06.56 | JerichoHM | then toughness becomes spell num 1 and smelting becomes spell num 2 |
| 19:08.01 | Iriel | Can't you just embed the spell ID for smelting? |
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| 19:08.22 | JerichoHM | Its more how I handle the buttons being drawn |
| 19:08.35 | JerichoHM | I detect the number of buttons needed by how many spells their are |
| 19:09.10 | JerichoHM | I could ofc force smelt to be spellnum 2 but why go through the trouble to have mining (the right click action) as a button on an addon? |
| 19:09.27 | amro | jnwhiteh: yeah they've announced the downtime started |
| 19:09.28 | Dark_Elf | _GetSpellInfo(2656) |
| 19:09.55 | amro | jnwhiteh: btw http://www.hon-utilities.com/patch-update/hon-2-5-patch-notes-hon-2-5-download/2083/ |
| 19:10.05 | jnwhiteh | yeah sa w that |
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| 19:11.16 | amro | new trees! exciting times |
| 19:11.24 | amro | that said I'm curious about the 2 new items |
| 19:14.20 | Maldivia | JerichoHM: is there a reason you're not using the spellOffset return from GetProfessionInfo? |
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| 19:23.47 | JerichoHM | Whats it return? |
| 19:24.51 | JerichoHM | hrm |
| 19:24.57 | JerichoHM | i'll have to look into it |
| 19:26.41 | Maldivia | the GetProfessionInfo returns spellOffset and numSpells, you can then use GetSpellBookItemName, GetSpellBookTexture, etc to get the name of spell, texture, id, etc |
| 19:27.41 | JerichoHM | i think it was because I'm not necissarily using the returns from those things. Some of them don't return the things I desired and some returned more than I desired |
| 19:28.02 | JerichoHM | That decision was made so long ago I don't exactly remember what occured to make me do this specifically however |
| 19:28.46 | Maldivia | well, then you can also do stuff like IsPassiveSpell, to weed out the passives :P |
| 19:29.30 | JerichoHM | Thanks Maldivia I'll look into it more :) |
| 19:29.54 | JerichoHM | Skill Helper is coming up on a planned major update so I may need to work with that stuff |
| 19:30.42 | mikma | cairenn: http://imgur.com/gallery/FIxvH |
| 19:30.56 | Cairenn | Ouch! |
| 19:31.13 | Maldivia | LOL |
| 19:37.37 | JerichoHM | Thanks again for the help everyone... i'm out for now |
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| 19:38.14 | Mischanix | anyone wanna put a front-end on my javascript combat log parser? |
| 19:38.20 | Mischanix | lol |
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| 19:42.25 | Mikk | there's nice open sores ones already |
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| 19:55.25 | Adys | hahahahah |
| 19:55.27 | Adys | To login simply type in your mobile number and password. |
| 19:55.27 | Adys | The password is the last four digits of your mobile number. |
| 19:55.43 | Maldivia | ..... |
| 19:56.21 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 20:00.44 | Cairenn | O.o |
| 20:00.51 | airtonix | Adys: umad? |
| 20:01.03 | Alram | no |
| 20:01.05 | Alram | heinsecure |
| 20:01.08 | airtonix | ohok |
| 20:01.24 | airtonix | is that your phone company? |
| 20:04.06 | Adys | No |
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| 20:14.25 | airtonix | Adys: i assume this page is missing crucial information on how to install win64bit ? http://wiki.winehq.org/Wine64 |
| 20:14.44 | Adys | not really |
| 20:14.46 | Adys | but its tricky |
| 20:14.54 | Mischanix | I've been staring at assembly for about 6 hours, and only now do I have to install VC :/ |
| 20:14.54 | Adys | Building a shared WoW64 setup (most likely what you want) |
| 20:14.57 | Adys | this is what you need |
| 20:15.20 | airtonix | http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit#head-245e8f90708da8070a4f3cbe336254c712af07e2 |
| 20:15.23 | Mischanix | Does wine not handle the pe architecture stuff automatically? |
| 20:15.25 | Adys | brb |
| 20:15.36 | airtonix | Mischanix: it installed win32bit by default |
| 20:15.37 | Adys | Mischanix: wine by default is win32 |
| 20:15.53 | Mischanix | So you have to install 64 as an addon of sorts? |
| 20:15.58 | Adys | yes |
| 20:16.03 | Adys | it follows the WoW64 architecture |
| 20:16.05 | airtonix | well not addon |
| 20:16.18 | Adys | you build --with-win64 and have both wine64 and wine32 running |
| 20:16.22 | airtonix | you pretty much have to install the 64bit version of wine |
| 20:16.25 | Mischanix | ah. |
| 20:17.03 | Mischanix | So making sure all the imports are available is manual |
| 20:25.26 | karl_w_w | these fuckin hippies really love their vegetables |
| 20:25.36 | karl_w_w | ^ @ anno 2070 |
| 20:28.31 | airtonix | i'm kinda mad |
| 20:29.01 | Mischanix | kinda mad you is? |
| 20:29.29 | karl_w_w | im kinda mad airtonix |
| 20:29.53 | karl_w_w | i spend all day making these hippies tea and vegetables so i can turn them into executives |
| 20:30.00 | Fisker | i lol'd Adys |
| 20:34.32 | Mischanix | Eugh, I really have to program and stuff, don't I... |
| 20:37.08 | Mischanix | Okay, who wants to name my new project? |
| 20:37.42 | Maldivia | ... depends... do you have to approve the name? |
| 20:38.19 | Mischanix | Yeah, but since I'm void of ideas the range of acceptance should be large. |
| 20:38.50 | Maldivia | well, what's the project about, I'm sure people here will give you... acceptable... suggestions :P |
| 20:44.20 | Mischanix | Nevermind, got something :P |
| 20:44.35 | Thunder_Child | good, because Maldivia was not quite truthful |
| 20:49.53 | amro | jnwhiteh: http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=367035 |
| 20:50.36 | jnwhiteh | amro: all live? |
| 20:50.47 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 20:50.49 | jnwhiteh | grave locket |
| 20:50.51 | jnwhiteh | mini sac stone |
| 20:50.54 | jnwhiteh | for assisters, I like that. |
| 20:50.54 | Maldivia | Thunder_Child: what... :P |
| 20:51.51 | amro | jnwhiteh: yeah it looks awesome |
| 20:52.00 | jnwhiteh | i should patch |
| 20:52.01 | amro | tailor made for andromeda |
| 20:52.09 | jnwhiteh | amro: why andro? |
| 20:52.58 | amro | if you roam, you're going to be desperate for stats and die a lot from being underleveled |
| 20:53.14 | jnwhiteh | well, so its for any roaming support |
| 20:53.19 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 20:53.34 | jnwhiteh | myrm, for example P |
| 20:53.40 | amro | yeah, but only andromeda has the swap |
| 20:53.45 | amro | myrm can escape though |
| 20:53.48 | amro | doesn't die nearly as often |
| 20:53.59 | jnwhiteh | meh, swap shouldn't get you into trouble very often |
| 20:54.02 | jnwhiteh | its not worth it if it does |
| 20:54.04 | jnwhiteh | unless you have pk |
| 20:54.14 | amro | not offensively, but getting your carry out of trouble for instance |
| 20:54.20 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 20:54.25 | amro | on offense, yeah it shouldn't get you into trouble |
| 20:54.49 | amro | I'm going to reboot and patch up |
| 20:55.25 | jnwhiteh | i'm tempted to make a new f2p account |
| 20:55.27 | jnwhiteh | and duo with you :P |
| 20:55.28 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 20:55.36 | jnwhiteh | see how the new MM works |
| 20:55.58 | jnwhiteh | i'll just use cladhaire |
| 20:56.46 | jnwhiteh | given that we're both around 1500 heh |
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| 20:59.24 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 20:59.33 | jnwhiteh | Fisker |
| 20:59.46 | amro | jnwhiteh: yeah my MMR took a beating |
| 20:59.55 | jnwhiteh | only thing we'd lose is hero selection |
| 21:00.01 | jnwhiteh | I'll just go on cladhaire |
| 21:00.04 | jnwhiteh | leave jnwhiteh at 1700 |
| 21:00.06 | jnwhiteh | soon to be 1600 =( |
| 21:00.09 | jnwhiteh | damn compression |
| 21:01.49 | jnwhiteh | amro: jesus.. 1601 |
| 21:01.56 | jnwhiteh | I worked so hard for that 1700! |
| 21:02.01 | amro | ahahah |
| 21:02.17 | amro | well, everyone got compressed though |
| 21:02.29 | jnwhiteh | i know |
| 21:02.31 | jnwhiteh | but still! |
| 21:02.31 | amro | tough I probably lost like... 25 pionts |
| 21:02.57 | amro | patch download is slow |
| 21:03.05 | jnwhiteh | the patch application is slow too :P |
| 21:03.13 | jnwhiteh | i'll be on cladhaire, should I wait for you? |
| 21:03.16 | jnwhiteh | and we'll do some TMM? |
| 21:03.27 | amro | yeah this will be done in 5 minutes |
| 21:04.52 | Fisker | why do you guys play hon? |
| 21:05.41 | jnwhiteh | amro: 1489.20 on cladhaire |
| 21:05.43 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: why not? |
| 21:05.52 | amro | so much qqing on the forum |
| 21:05.53 | Fisker | because it's a bad game :( |
| 21:05.58 | amro | but that's all the time |
| 21:06.09 | amro | only because you suck Fisker |
| 21:06.12 | jnwhiteh | amro: Martyr and Chronos alts.. very nice, actually |
| 21:06.24 | amro | jnwhiteh: http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=367575 might be an issue for you |
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| 21:06.53 | Nechckn | Mr. tekkub - art thou lurkinating? |
| 21:07.25 | jnwhiteh | amro: well hopefully that doesn't happen >< |
| 21:07.31 | jnwhiteh | we still have no sound. |
| 21:07.38 | jnwhiteh | i could play on my linux box if I need to |
| 21:07.40 | jnwhiteh | wonder how it would play |
| 21:07.48 | amro | better than mac, worse than windows |
| 21:08.03 | Nechckn | tekkub Oh, never mind - was going to make sure that TGR was working and stuff, so I did not lose the data, but will backup and stuff first. Gah, more coffee! |
| 21:08.07 | amro | but in my case it's only because this shitty laptop has ati graphics |
| 21:08.34 | jnwhiteh | mine has intel GMA3000 |
| 21:08.35 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 21:08.43 | amro | that won't work on linux at all |
| 21:08.49 | Maldivia | gma3000... ouch |
| 21:09.09 | jnwhiteh | i dunno, lemme try it |
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| 21:10.57 | Thunder_Child | Maldivia: the suggestions here would never have been 'acceptable'. |
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| 21:12.34 | amro | jnwhiteh: im in |
| 21:13.17 | Maldivia | Thunder_Child: depends what qualifies as "acceptable" :P |
| 21:13.26 | Maldivia | ... but yeah :P |
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| 21:15.30 | Maldivia | sings along a bit... you had your time, you had the power, you've yet to have your finest hour... |
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| 21:38.09 | Fisker | yay Stanzilla |
| 21:38.15 | Fisker | we got decent people playing |
| 21:38.17 | Fisker | cleared it now |
| 21:38.29 | Stanzilla | yay |
| 21:38.30 | Stanzilla | gz |
| 21:42.57 | airtonix | Fisker: umad? |
| 21:43.31 | airtonix | Fisker: hon is an awesome game, wanna know why |
| 21:44.11 | Cide | because I RAGE SO HARD WHEN I PLAY IT |
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| 21:46.28 | Nechckn | Cide So much so that you achieve Ragegasm? |
| 21:47.15 | airtonix | Cide: lets not confuse your ability to satisfy your fetish whilst you faceroll |
| 21:47.17 | Cide | ragervana |
| 21:47.46 | Nechckn | Whoa.. now that is good! ;-) |
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| 22:45.42 | Fisker | penis |
| 22:45.48 | Fisker | hehe |
| 22:49.37 | Seerah | -.- |
| 22:53.54 | Mischanix | DereferencingRapist is probably most appropriate :/ |
| 23:05.34 | Mikk | didja know new BH boss has an enrage timer? |
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| 23:07.31 | Mikk | 5 minutes! =) |
| 23:11.54 | kd3 | so, I guess that means raids are getting stomped on? |
| 23:12.40 | Shirik | mm she was pretty easy from my experience |
| 23:15.50 | kd3 | hey bibi, you around? |
| 23:21.41 | Arrowmaster | bah nicrosoft doesnt let you use +'s in email addresses when making a new live account |
| 23:23.22 | Shirik | anti-gmail |
| 23:25.47 | Arrowmaster | hmm my google apps management isnt letting me add account aliases |
| 23:26.00 | Arrowmaster | it has a cancel button but not an ok button |
| 23:26.19 | Hjalte | WoW is crashing with an error 132 after pressing Play in the launcher. No changes except for a few updated addons. I have run the repair tool. Can addons cause this? |
| 23:27.03 | foxlit | should not, but anyone asserting that they can't is foolish. |
| 23:27.15 | foxlit | rename your Interface directory to Interface.old and try again. |
| 23:27.37 | foxlit | If the problem persists, it's not your addons (or at least not the code components of your addons). |
| 23:28.15 | Hjalte | It's not the addons, it would seem. |
| 23:28.26 | Hjalte | Just did what you suggested. |
| 23:28.56 | Hjalte | I did update my CCCP codec pack yesterday though |
| 23:30.01 | Shirik | good |
| 23:30.05 | Shirik | because the russians are rioting |
| 23:30.13 | Shirik | you may need to be ready to deal with the soviets |
| 23:30.23 | Cide | true story bro |
| 23:31.16 | Shirik | ok back to skyrim |
| 23:32.54 | Shirik | so is England officially no longer in the EU? |
| 23:33.43 | foxlit | you may want to read up on what the EU /is/. |
| 23:34.13 | Mischanix | England knew better. |
| 23:34.14 | Shirik | why? |
| 23:34.29 | foxlit | because your question is kind of absurd :P |
| 23:35.22 | Mischanix | Hjalte, remove your Cache folder. Corrupted WDB tends to be the issue |
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| 23:35.55 | Shirik | I have no idea why it would be absurd |
| 23:36.20 | Mischanix | England never signed up for the whole 'Euro' thing. That's all. |
| 23:36.30 | Shirik | sure |
| 23:36.32 | Maldivia | they're not part of the EMU, and by the sound of it, they wont be for a long time :P |
| 23:36.51 | Hjalte | Mischanix: That's not the problem either. The game didn't even get to populate the new folders when it started up. |
| 23:37.23 | Mischanix | Hmm. Tried a restart? |
| 23:37.37 | Jamash | wassuppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp |
| 23:38.34 | Hjalte | Mischanix: Not yet. I tried renaming my WTF folder and that got me all the way through the intro cinematics and then crashed again >.< |
| 23:39.43 | Mischanix | Try a restart and see what happens. Hopefully I'll see you on the other side :P |
| 23:39.48 | kd3 | nothing useful in the error logs? |
| 23:41.22 | Hjalte | Nothing that I can tell is very important |
| 23:42.11 | Mischanix | Open the one with the most recent date and throw it in a pastebin. |
| 23:43.22 | Hjalte | Restarting first, maybe that'll do it |
| 23:44.15 | Shirik | I'm confused |
| 23:44.28 | Shirik | there's people selling a spectral tiger on ebay for $350 |
| 23:44.38 | Shirik | I could buy it and sell it to an online store for $450 |
| 23:45.08 | Mischanix | Not if they do it first and hope you don't dispute |
| 23:47.29 | Shirik | I'm not stupid |
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| 23:47.51 | Shirik | funny thing is I think that would count as a capital gain |
| 23:48.16 | Nechckn | surely |
| 23:48.53 | Shirik | I don't wanna be taxed on cards :( |
| 23:50.12 | Nechckn | Cash is cash, amigo - go it! =) |
| 23:50.14 | Cide | isn't it the fact that you gained money rather than the source of it? |
| 23:50.33 | Shirik | yes |
| 23:50.38 | Shirik | that's not the point! |
| 23:50.43 | Nechckn | and no added value |
| 23:50.44 | Cide | yes it is |
| 23:50.50 | Shirik | It's a trading card that I'd be taxed on |
| 23:50.58 | Shirik | a piece of paper |
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| 23:51.09 | Cide | a piece of paper worth $450 |
| 23:51.13 | Nechckn | Hey, welcome to the new economy hehehe |
| 23:51.32 | Shirik | <insert joke about wow tcg prices being more stable than the euro> |
| 23:51.50 | Cide | <insert joke about 100mbps> |
| 23:51.55 | Shirik | fffffuuuuuu |
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| 23:52.05 | Shirik | I'm going to mcdonalds |
| 23:52.07 | Shirik | do you have a mcdonalds |
| 23:52.17 | mckenziemc | does he want a mcdonalds |
| 23:52.17 | Cide | I had mcdonalds two days ago |
| 23:53.06 | foxlit | hey, Cide |
| 23:53.09 | foxlit | do your mcdonaldses have apple pies? |
| 23:53.49 | Cide | I wouldn't know |
| 23:54.11 | foxlit | :/ |
| 23:54.34 | Cide | http://www.mcdonalds.se/se/maten/produkter/desserter/aeppelpaj.html |
| 23:54.45 | Mischanix | lol aeppelpaj |
| 23:54.58 | foxlit | reason to move to sweeden #1304. |
| 23:55.17 | Mischanix | Somewhere close to reason #1 is that half the words are loanwords |
| 23:55.30 | Cide | lol? |
| 23:56.07 | Cide | maybe technical terms but I don't think "äppelpaj" was taken from english |
| 23:56.15 | Cide | I'm pretty sure they both have a common ancestor if anything |
| 23:56.27 | Cide | or "äppel"/"apple" and "paj"/"pie" as it may be |
| 23:56.32 | Mischanix | Eh, yeah, not loanwords but cognates |
| 23:56.34 | Mischanix | sorry |
| 23:57.05 | Cide | isn't that true of like |
| 23:57.19 | Cide | all languages except icelandic |
| 23:57.22 | foxlit | most european things |
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| 23:57.23 | Maldivia | I love being able to put words together to almost endless length, and still be valid :P |
| 23:57.32 | foxlit | centuries of invading each other tends to do that. |
| 23:58.24 | Mischanix | Idk, I spend more time with Russian than anything now. |
| 23:58.59 | Mischanix | So cognates are a blessing, though they tend to be from Greek. |
| 23:59.59 | Shirik | why is itunes worthless |
