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| 02:44.26 | pantsninja | can I do something like: if myTable["key"] == nil then myTable["key"] = {} end |
| 02:44.33 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 02:44.40 | Xinhuan | but i would write it like this: |
| 02:44.51 | Xinhuan | myTable["key"] = myTable["key"] or {} |
| 02:45.09 | Xinhuan | basically the right hand side, evalautes to either myTable["key"] |
| 02:45.16 | pantsninja | I haven't seen that syntax before. Interesting |
| 02:45.18 | Xinhuan | or if that is nil, it evaluates to the newly constructed {} |
| 02:45.31 | Xinhuan | short circuit evaluation, blah blah |
| 02:45.45 | Xinhuan | as long as myTable["key"] has no chance of containing a boolean "false" value |
| 02:45.52 | Xinhuan | it would work |
| 02:46.23 | pantsninja | yup, it'd work for me |
| 02:46.26 | pantsninja | Xinhuan: thank you |
| 02:46.53 | Xinhuan | your C ternary op x = a?b:c is basically "x = a and b or c" in lua |
| 02:47.01 | pantsninja | yar |
| 02:47.07 | Xinhuan | assuming b is not an actual boolean value |
| 02:48.28 | pantsninja | awesome. That works perfectly. No more data going *poof* for me! |
| 02:50.03 | pantsninja | actually, I think that'll solve a few bugs for me. Thank |
| 02:50.07 | pantsninja | *you |
| 02:50.27 | kd3 | eesh; "Pile-up on Japanese expressway claims 14 luxury cars, including eight Ferraris and a Lamborghini, in what may be the most expensive car wreck of all time." |
| 02:50.36 | kd3 | http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/12/04/the-most-expensive-car-crash-ever-eight-ferraris-in-supercar-pile-up-115875-23610157/ |
| 02:50.52 | mckenziemc | heh |
| 02:51.03 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 02:51.07 | amro | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:51.21 | pantsninja | oh thank goodness they included pictures |
| 02:51.26 | Xinhuan | for a moment, it looked like something only in movies |
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| 02:52.55 | mckenziemc | heh |
| 02:53.21 | mckenziemc | almost thought that was old -- darn us education training me to write dates wrong |
| 02:53.39 | mckenziemc | 4/12 vs 12/4 |
| 02:54.08 | Xinhuan | I always spell out the month as such |
| 02:54.10 | amro | 'wrong'? |
| 02:54.20 | Vladinator | dd.mm.yy no? |
| 02:54.32 | amro | doesn't matter, a format isn't more right or wrong than the other |
| 02:54.37 | amro | just different |
| 02:55.05 | mckenziemc | Vladinator: mm/dd/yy in US |
| 02:55.27 | Xinhuan | yyyymmdd makes it easily sortable by string |
| 02:55.45 | mckenziemc | yeah |
| 02:56.15 | Vladinator | I understand the pro on having yy.mm.dd but not the us default one |
| 02:56.34 | amro | it's not about pros and cons, this started out pencil on paper |
| 02:56.48 | amro | different regions picked different standards for different reasons |
| 02:57.01 | amro | I've written dates 3 different ways as I made my way through different school systems |
| 02:57.11 | Vladinator | Writing on phone. Like sms but no spelling help:( |
| 02:57.30 | amro | you make it sound like people spell correctly in sms |
| 02:57.37 | kd3 | s/in sms// |
| 02:57.43 | Mr_Rabies | that's how it's spoken in the states too, Vladinator |
| 02:58.38 | Mr_Rabies | sunday, december fourth, twenty-eleven |
| 02:58.58 | Vladinator | Think some uk stores also use us date format, did work with budget from uk once:D |
| 02:59.45 | Vladinator | 04 time for bed |
| 03:00.07 | Vladinator | Gn |
| 03:19.34 | airtonix | help! |
| 03:19.40 | airtonix | i demand help |
| 03:19.46 | airtonix | kills fisker |
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| 03:21.30 | mckenziemc | fries airtonix too. |
| 03:21.48 | airtonix | hey mckenziemc, can you #! |
| 03:21.51 | airtonix | http://dpaste.com/666192/ |
| 03:22.24 | mckenziemc | bashes airtonix's face in |
| 03:24.16 | airtonix | mckenziemc: i can't make the loop wait till gnome-terminal has exited |
| 03:31.21 | Thunder_Child | try harder |
| 03:31.57 | Dagmar | That's because it does it's own thing |
| 03:32.09 | Dagmar | Don't run it in a bloody terminal. |
| 03:32.10 | Thunder_Child | just have it check |
| 03:38.20 | Dagmar | If you wait _explicitly_ by pid instead of the thing you're doing, you might stand a chance |
| 03:47.50 | airtonix | Dagmar: i need terminals to open because the user might run this by double clicking the file in nautilus and the output that normally occurs is useful |
| 03:59.07 | Raimondas | airtonix: Strip off "&& wait" |
| 03:59.51 | airtonix | Raimondas: like this : http://dpaste.com/666205/ ? |
| 04:00.07 | airtonix | that just causes n amount of gnome-terminals to spawn |
| 04:00.30 | Raimondas | airtonix: They detach themselves from your process group, not much you can do about that |
| 04:00.32 | airtonix | i want each "job" to only start when the previous one has exited |
| 04:00.38 | Dagmar | You are using the wait command wrong. |
| 04:00.40 | Dagmar | Please read the man page |
| 04:00.41 | airtonix | i might try job counting |
| 04:09.33 | Dagmar | Looks like I was mistaken... It *is* possible to get more wrong in there |
| 04:10.21 | Dagmar | airtonix: The thing Raimondas has said to you about the process group is significant |
| 04:10.50 | airtonix | Dagmar: thanks your advice about using windows helped! |
| 04:11.00 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 04:11.30 | Dagmar | *sigh* |
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| 04:35.55 | Dagmar | fuck me |
| 04:36.04 | Dagmar | Brew of the Month is apparently lifetime membership |
| 04:40.14 | Ketho | wasn't brew of the month a yearly membership |
| 04:41.09 | Seerah | supposedly |
| 04:41.13 | Seerah | but I'm on 2 years now |
| 04:41.33 | Xinhuan | changed maybe |
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| 04:44.32 | Arrowmaster | hmm the level of followers in skyrim is set when you first zone into the area they are located, now i need to find out which ones ive not zoned to and pick a new one |
| 04:44.54 | Arrowmaster | my lydia is rather weak now |
| 04:46.18 | Dagmar | WEll that certainly explains some shit |
| 04:46.27 | Dagmar | They really need to make a /consider command or something |
| 04:46.41 | Arrowmaster | there is |
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| 04:47.01 | Dagmar | fuuuuu |
| 04:47.08 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Followers#Follower_Stats |
| 04:47.14 | Arrowmaster | im not playing on pc though so i cant do that |
| 04:47.19 | Dagmar | Oh... |
| 04:47.40 | Dagmar | No I thought you meant there was some way to find out what the target's level (or even relative level) was |
| 04:47.57 | Dagmar | I thought this was going to be like sprinting |
| 04:47.57 | Arrowmaster | there probably is |
| 04:48.31 | Dagmar | I am having a devil of a time getting invis |
| 04:49.46 | Dagmar | Although for the last 48 hours I've been playing as "The Great Wizard Whoosh-Boom" |
| 04:49.56 | Dagmar | So... invisibility woudln't exactly have been useful |
| 04:50.25 | Dagmar | Master Vampires that can two-shot you? No problem! Just add MOAR FIREBALLS |
| 04:51.01 | Arrowmaster | i just spent the day getting the Oghma Infinium so i could do the levelup glitch to get to 81 |
| 04:51.08 | Arrowmaster | ive still not spent a single perk |
| 04:51.22 | Dagmar | wut |
| 04:51.35 | Dagmar | You seriously haven't put perks into anything? |
| 04:51.41 | Arrowmaster | nope |
| 04:51.45 | Dagmar | I don't see how you're even surivivng |
| 04:51.59 | Arrowmaster | by shooting things in the face |
| 04:52.09 | Dagmar | Dude I can throw double-handed fireballs at someone for like 40s straight now. |
| 04:52.24 | Dagmar | The only thing I can't drop before I'm empty is an ancient dragon |
| 04:52.33 | Dagmar | This is nowhere close to possible without perks |
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| 04:52.50 | Dagmar | I wasn't kidding about the two-shotting vampires |
| 04:53.29 | Arrowmaster | ive got 400hp 400stam and 300mag now too |
| 04:53.46 | Dagmar | That stronghold near Falkreath has a guy in it who will just murder you in about 2s flat at level 48 |
| 04:53.57 | Dagmar | ...unless you just pound his face with fireballs non-stop |
| 04:54.31 | Dagmar | He killed me about ten times in a row and I finally said "SCrew it. Sort of kicked open the door and started nuking non-stop." |
| 04:55.14 | Dagmar | Seriously I don't have a clue why you'd want to *save* perk points |
| 04:55.43 | Dagmar | They halve your mana costs, double your damage, make your hair shinier, let you create bows that punch through mountainsides, etc |
| 04:56.13 | Dagmar | Even the bound bow pales to the +40 fire +40 ice Legendary glass bow I have |
| 04:57.08 | Dagmar | A sneak attack with it will do about 200 damage without potions |
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| 05:05.22 | [Wobin] | I was wandering around when I found this little house in the wilds |
| 05:05.30 | [Wobin] | strolled in, and got a few fireballs to the face =( |
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| 05:14.02 | Dagmar | Argh. Darn Tonk interface |
| 05:14.18 | Dagmar | It's not a possession or a " |
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| 05:14.39 | Dagmar | normal" vehicle bar... I can't spot how to make it work in Macaroon |
| 05:16.44 | karl_w_w | its a normal bar for me Dagmar |
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| 05:17.05 | Dagmar | Over here I have all the possess and vehicle bars defined |
| 05:17.12 | karl_w_w | like whenever u are in a vehicle or take possesion of something and your main bar changes |
| 05:17.19 | Dagmar | That thing just jumps up on the screen no matter what |
| 05:17.39 | karl_w_w | or no its a vehicle bar |
| 05:17.45 | karl_w_w | yeah i remember now :P |
| 05:17.56 | karl_w_w | theres loads like it |
| 05:22.48 | Dagmar | Well, the problem is that when it comes up, 1-6 are bound to bars that have just left the screen |
| 05:23.04 | Dagmar | That makes it a little bitchy |
| 05:24.49 | Dagmar | Gonna see if Bartender handles it better |
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| 06:42.55 | mckenziemc | or i could hey blu you here, if you prefer |
| 06:43.36 | bluspacecow | oh hay |
| 06:49.04 | airtonix | hey Dagmar, is it possible to have a desktop shortcut icon to launch xterm, have xterm run some commands then leave the terminal open so the user can continue entering more commands? |
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| 07:00.50 | mckenziemc | not for anyone who uses airtonix as a nick |
| 07:00.59 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 07:01.15 | airtonix | i fixed it anyway |
| 07:01.22 | airtonix | thanks you can delete this thread |
| 07:01.26 | mckenziemc | oh well |
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| 07:09.13 | Thunder_Child | kd3: inc. rss explosion |
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| 07:45.32 | Sintacks | who voices Illidan? |
| 07:49.52 | kullervo | in the new 5-mans? I'd sort of like to know too, I thought it was very fitting |
| 07:49.57 | kullervo | the voice acting |
| 07:52.38 | Sintacks | i meant in general |
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| 08:09.58 | karl_w_w | sounds to me like the same person voiced illi |
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| 08:25.02 | karl_w_w | oh the voice of illi in BT was done by a different one to the BC cinematic |
| 08:25.05 | karl_w_w | who knew |
| 08:29.15 | mckenziemc1 | all but those who aren't prepared |
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| 08:46.30 | Sintacks | i went from 362 ilvl to 372 in 3 dungeons... |
| 08:48.18 | Kalroth | so a 2.7% increase, thats pretty normal for new instances |
| 08:49.00 | Kalroth | going from ilvl 80 to ilvl 82 was about the same increase |
| 08:49.43 | haste | I went from 359 to 372 by just getting the patch, then to 378 |
| 08:50.23 | haste | we failed ultraxion's gear check due to four of us having 360 gear tho' :D |
| 08:52.48 | Sintacks | i like that the dps check fight is before the "loot ship" fight |
| 08:53.00 | Sintacks | also, Ultraxion is fun |
| 08:54.28 | Cide | the loot ship isn't so loot shippy anymore though |
| 08:58.04 | haste | ultraxion is easy, except for the gear check :P |
| 08:58.06 | Sintacks | true |
| 08:58.10 | Sintacks | also true |
| 08:58.26 | haste | we had flawless execution from try two, but lacked 10M damage |
| 08:58.50 | haste | which I would say is fairly good seeing as we've barely played since before firelands |
| 08:59.02 | haste | (10-man) |
| 09:03.36 | Sintacks | i was in a group on my hunter .. they were trying to 9 man the first boss |
| 09:03.41 | Sintacks | hit enrage |
| 09:03.46 | Sintacks | an alt run... |
| 09:03.52 | Sintacks | trying to 9 man that fight |
| 09:03.55 | Sintacks | people are stupid |
| 09:08.26 | Cide | the first boss? |
| 09:08.31 | Cide | trivially 9 mannable |
| 09:08.35 | Cide | trivially 8 mannable |
| 09:08.50 | Cide | probably trivially 7 mannable even with good enough gear |
| 09:09.01 | Cide | (one healer, two tanks, 4 dps) |
| 09:09.19 | Sintacks | not when you don't meet the dps |
| 09:09.53 | Cide | if you can't do it with 9 people you obviously don't deserve to be in there in the first place |
| 09:10.02 | Cide | that fight is easier than most of the trash pulls in the zone |
| 09:10.47 | Sintacks | mechanic wise, yes. but there is still a dps check that undergeared people can't hit. and when you have 3 undergeared (i wasn't one of them...) people and are down a person, that makes it worse |
| 09:12.10 | Cide | like I said |
| 09:12.29 | Cide | probably trivially 7 mannable even *with good enough gear* |
| 09:12.47 | Cide | it is a joke of a boss period |
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| 09:36.23 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 09:36.29 | Fisker | not so hey Sintacks |
| 09:36.31 | Fisker | however hey Cide |
| 09:36.40 | haste | hey Fisker |
| 09:37.01 | Fisker | i'm tired haste |
| 09:37.40 | mckenziemc1 | hey Fisky |
| 09:37.52 | Sintacks | go to sleep Fisker |
| 09:38.04 | Fisker | btw |
| 09:38.10 | Fisker | alliance favoritism needs to be nerfed |
| 09:38.17 | Fisker | portal to Darkmoon Faire outside Orgrimmar pls |
| 09:38.47 | Sintacks | you can pay 30s to get ported there ... |
| 09:39.05 | Fisker | where Sintacks ? |
| 09:39.21 | Fisker | also 30s disrupts my game economy |
| 09:39.30 | mckenziemc1 | rofl |
| 09:39.59 | Fisker | i can only afford like 300k ports before i go bankrupt |
| 09:40.13 | Sintacks | up by the flight master |
| 09:40.27 | Fisker | the moar you know |
| 09:40.29 | Sintacks | 30s for a port to mulgore |
| 09:40.45 | Fisker | still not fair though :( |
| 09:40.52 | Fisker | must complain on the forums |
| 09:41.03 | Sintacks | just don't say "fucking gay |
| 09:41.04 | Sintacks | " |
| 09:41.10 | Sintacks | you'll get muted on forums for 3 days |
| 09:41.15 | Fisker | if the next MMO doesn't have equal distances to everything for every faction then it sucks |
| 09:41.20 | Fisker | umad? |
| 09:41.25 | Fisker | should've gotten permanent ban really |
| 09:41.34 | Fisker | i've gotten a week for less |
| 09:41.42 | mckenziemc1 | umad? |
| 09:41.53 | Fisker | nope |
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| 09:52.16 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 09:53.29 | bluspacecow | oh hai |
| 09:54.53 | Fisker | nope |
| 09:56.45 | Fisker | :( |
| 09:57.05 | mckenziemc1 | see what you did |
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| 10:46.49 | mitch0 | fisker: do you use bazooka? do you have misplaced tooltips? |
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| 11:03.05 | airtonix | rages |
| 11:07.37 | jnwhiteh | umad? |
| 11:07.40 | jnwhiteh | cause you sound rather mad |
| 11:12.36 | Fisker | not that i recall mitch0 |
| 11:12.59 | jnwhiteh | There are so many weird issues with the window/application handling on Unity |
| 11:13.04 | jnwhiteh | I wonder if they're the same on Gnome shell |
| 11:13.06 | jnwhiteh | =/ |
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| 11:16.51 | Stanzilla | unity is crap :< |
| 11:17.52 | Fisker | like Stanzilla |
| 11:18.05 | Stanzilla | that's not a nice thing to say, Mr. Fisker |
| 11:18.24 | Fisker | it wasn't a nice thing to call unity crap either |
| 11:18.29 | Fisker | you hurt its feelings :( |
| 11:20.14 | Stanzilla | but unity is not here! |
| 11:20.24 | jnwhiteh | Stanzilla: I mean, yeah |
| 11:20.34 | jnwhiteh | if I hadn't spent as much time as I have setting things up this weekend |
| 11:20.39 | jnwhiteh | I'd probably drop it and go to something else |
| 11:20.57 | jnwhiteh | I mean, call me crazy, but I should have a way to see which applications are running |
| 11:21.00 | jnwhiteh | and you don't with unity |
| 11:21.06 | Stanzilla | I tried to set it up properly but just gave up after 4 hours or so |
| 11:21.16 | jnwhiteh | fi you've closed all the windows for an application, it's almost certainly still running, and there's no way to know that |
| 11:21.23 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 11:21.33 | jnwhiteh | I think Gnome Shell is better with that, much better |
| 11:21.36 | jnwhiteh | but I dunno |
| 11:22.38 | Stanzilla | I've not yet tried the latest version of it, so my experience is based on the 10.04 version |
| 11:22.44 | Stanzilla | and that was crap :o |
| 11:22.47 | airtonix | unity puts an arrow on running applications |
| 11:23.04 | airtonix | if you can't see it, then schedule an appointment with your optometrist |
| 11:23.22 | jnwhiteh | airtonix: no it doesn't. |
| 11:23.25 | jnwhiteh | but thanks for playing. |
| 11:23.26 | airtonix | oh yes it does |
| 11:23.30 | jnwhiteh | well, I'm using it right now |
| 11:23.33 | jnwhiteh | and that's not happening |
| 11:23.35 | airtonix | so did i |
| 11:23.36 | jnwhiteh | so qq more |
| 11:23.42 | airtonix | but i use gnome-shell instead |
| 11:23.45 | jnwhiteh | tom |
| 11:25.00 | jnwhiteh | oh, let's look |
| 11:25.12 | airtonix | http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-d3OhJap9b3E/TpWAlI4tE6I/AAAAAAAAGOM/pmMIrkDTpTA/ubuntu11.10-unity2d-files.png |
| 11:25.15 | airtonix | protip |
| 11:25.20 | airtonix | firefox has an arrow |
| 11:25.45 | airtonix | more protips : http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-iYWwDTWc0ow/Tl6izx7naNI/AAAAAAAAF7E/B0ydmqDx7jA/ubuntu11.10-beta-unity.png |
| 11:25.48 | jnwhiteh | my own screenshots are incoming |
| 11:25.50 | airtonix | running applications have arrows |
| 11:25.50 | jnwhiteh | so quit your qq |
| 11:25.55 | jnwhiteh | they do not. |
| 11:26.03 | jnwhiteh | you hapless twit |
| 11:26.06 | airtonix | they do in those screenshots |
| 11:26.11 | jnwhiteh | grats |
| 11:26.13 | sylvanaar_work | 1 <3 U guys |
| 11:26.15 | jnwhiteh | they don't on the system that I"m running.. right now. |
| 11:26.18 | airtonix | umad? |
| 11:26.26 | jnwhiteh | you clearly are =) |
| 11:26.30 | airtonix | nou |
| 11:27.07 | jnwhiteh | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/34123dcca605dd229d7fcc9d784fddd6.png |
| 11:27.09 | sylvanaar_work | you guys made my morning |
| 11:27.10 | jnwhiteh | no arrow on empathy |
| 11:27.12 | jnwhiteh | do we agree on that much? |
| 11:27.39 | airtonix | prove you have it running |
| 11:27.44 | jnwhiteh | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/0e7cfc10e8c39e550fcd10ca9793e1c7.png |
| 11:27.53 | jnwhiteh | that was taken 7 seconds later |
| 11:27.57 | jnwhiteh | when I received an IM |
| 11:28.05 | jnwhiteh | on teh application that has no arrow |
| 11:28.08 | jnwhiteh | note that I STILL have no arrow |
| 11:28.18 | jnwhiteh | but the icon has changed, and the notification bubble popped up |
| 11:28.26 | jnwhiteh | now go cry in your cheerios |
| 11:28.38 | airtonix | is it actually running? because those events are dbus related and not the application |
| 11:28.55 | jnwhiteh | I received the message |
| 11:29.02 | jnwhiteh | therefore Empathy has to be running |
| 11:29.06 | jnwhiteh | its the only way I'm connected to gtalk |
| 11:29.10 | airtonix | don't be so sure about that |
| 11:29.15 | jnwhiteh | ... |
| 11:29.25 | Stanzilla | haha |
| 11:29.31 | jnwhiteh | One application has my credentials. Empathy. |
| 11:29.35 | jnwhiteh | I received a message on said credentials. |
| 11:29.41 | jnwhiteh | Empathy must have been running for that to happen. |
| 11:29.42 | jnwhiteh | Q.E.D. |
| 11:29.44 | airtonix | it also has a backend 'sans interface' |
| 11:29.51 | jnwhiteh | that's still "the application" |
| 11:29.58 | jnwhiteh | and there's no indication that it's running |
| 11:30.04 | jnwhiteh | no way for me to stop it from running |
| 11:30.06 | jnwhiteh | shall I continue? |
| 11:30.09 | airtonix | oh ok so mysql is an application? |
| 11:30.14 | airtonix | and gconf? |
| 11:30.20 | jnwhiteh | yes, and yes |
| 11:30.36 | airtonix | what about gvfs? |
| 11:31.13 | airtonix | or seahorse |
| 11:31.22 | jnwhiteh | this is an application in my dashboard, a GUI-based application |
| 11:31.25 | airtonix | how about telepathy |
| 11:31.55 | jnwhiteh | On any sane user interface/system there would be an indication of whether or not that application is active/connected or not |
| 11:31.57 | jnwhiteh | there is no such thing |
| 11:32.07 | airtonix | yeah you don't have emapth (the gui to telepathy) running... the notification area indicator doesn't count nor does libnotify |
| 11:32.33 | jnwhiteh | then its an integration fail |
| 11:32.37 | jnwhiteh | the user experience issue remains the same |
| 11:33.18 | airtonix | tbh empathy icon should never show up in the dock |
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| 11:33.50 | jnwhiteh | well it does =) |
| 11:33.53 | airtonix | gnome-shell gets this right |
| 11:34.27 | jnwhiteh | I'm simply saying there are very basic UX issues going on here, and I know that there are growing pains, but it's very frustrating. |
| 11:34.32 | airtonix | on another note |
| 11:34.38 | airtonix | you don't sound mad anymore |
| 11:34.43 | jnwhiteh | I wasn't mad to begin with |
| 11:34.46 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 11:35.39 | airtonix | you should use gnome-shell, since you can at least modify the interface more easily than you can with unity |
| 11:35.57 | jnwhiteh | yeah, It would be easier to install that, I suspect |
| 11:36.00 | airtonix | and there are actualy themes available for gnome-shell |
| 11:36.07 | jnwhiteh | hehe, I actually like the unity theme |
| 11:36.10 | airtonix | "actual themes" /fanfare |
| 11:36.19 | jnwhiteh | the terribad theme of the Mint Lisa is what drove me away from it :P |
| 11:36.49 | mitch0 | just switch to kde |
| 11:36.51 | haste | Fisker: I installed ICS |
| 11:37.10 | airtonix | Fisker: umadbro? |
| 11:37.18 | airtonix | haste: ics is terribad, get a macbrah |
| 11:37.30 | jnwhiteh | airtonix: how is the non-gpu-accel version of Gnome-shell? |
| 11:37.35 | airtonix | haste: iphones just work and you can do more with them |
| 11:37.40 | jnwhiteh | for battery power reasons, I like to have that available as well |
| 11:38.04 | airtonix | jnwhiteh: i'm not sure what you mean |
| 11:39.02 | jnwhiteh | airtonix: there's unity-2d, and I know that there's a 2d version of gnome-shell, as well, that's what you get if you VNC into a GS machine |
| 11:39.06 | jnwhiteh | but I suppose I can just try it out. |
| 11:39.27 | airtonix | oh gnome-shell fallback |
| 11:39.48 | jnwhiteh | also, how is it possible that the ubuntu software centre takes a good 9 seconds to open. |
| 11:39.55 | airtonix | its just like gnome2 (as in it's gnome-panel3) |
| 11:40.02 | jnwhiteh | ah, cool |
| 11:40.17 | airtonix | you need to hold alt or ctrl to move/edit things |
| 11:40.27 | airtonix | on the panels |
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| 11:40.49 | haste | airtonix: lol linux and iphone, FUNNAY |
| 11:40.51 | Fisker | haste |
| 11:40.53 | Fisker | y u ics? |
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| 11:41.14 | haste | Fisker: someone ditched my appointment |
| 11:41.20 | haste | so I had nothing to do at work |
| 11:41.26 | Fisker | mad? |
| 11:41.26 | airtonix | haste: opensource software is killing the sofware industry |
| 11:41.40 | haste | I don't mind airtonix |
| 11:41.42 | jnwhiteh | KILLING it |
| 11:42.20 | mikma | onoes |
| 11:43.26 | jnwhiteh | its dead |
| 11:43.29 | jnwhiteh | brb gnome-shell |
| 11:43.33 | Fisker | btw jnwhiteh |
| 11:43.34 | Fisker | hello |
| 11:43.38 | airtonix | hay wud u liek 2 bye dis app? et opuns ur appstore and byz apps for u <sent from my awesomely overpriced iphone6/> |
| 11:43.56 | Fisker | usour airtonix ? |
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| 11:45.04 | mikma | sweet and sour |
| 11:46.18 | jnwhiteh | ah, much better. |
| 11:46.46 | mikma | y u so better jnwhiteh |
| 11:47.35 | jnwhiteh | airtonix: hrm, is there a way to get dropbox added to the top-right status bar rather than hidden under activities/bottom right? |
| 11:48.13 | airtonix | have a look at https://extensions.gnome.org/ with firefox |
| 11:48.59 | jnwhiteh | does it have to be firefox? |
| 11:49.22 | jnwhiteh | apparently so =) |
| 11:50.34 | airtonix | there was an extension to move the notification icon bar to the top right |
| 11:51.22 | jnwhiteh | ah, I'll look for that one |
| 11:52.13 | airtonix | the gnote extension here http://www.fpmurphy.com/gnome-shell-extensions/ might clue |
| 11:53.57 | Fisker | :( |
| 11:54.14 | Fisker | y do u brr me jnwhiteh ? |
| 11:54.19 | airtonix | http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=205&t=85730&start=0 |
| 11:54.59 | jnwhiteh | thanks airtonix, I'll take a look at those. |
| 11:55.12 | airtonix | i think mint has some extensions that do further modfications |
| 11:55.44 | jnwhiteh | yeha, they've spent quite a bit of time working on mods |
| 11:55.56 | jnwhiteh | I'll keep with this for now |
| 11:56.25 | Fisker | GG |
| 11:56.37 | Fisker | looks like there's a bug that allows cross-realm raids to work |
| 11:57.09 | Fisker | in b4 Blizzard calls it a hard to make convenience-feature and tells us it's a premium service in the next patch |
| 11:57.25 | Stanzilla | what's the bug |
| 11:57.35 | starlon | Tell me when they have cross faction raids. |
| 11:58.05 | Fisker | Stanzilla after you've done the raid you can apparently just do any raid |
| 11:58.20 | Stanzilla | ok O.o |
| 11:58.28 | jnwhiteh | airtonix: yes, this is much nicer, thank you for the suggestion. |
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| 12:35.54 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/oxI6T |
| 12:37.44 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/jI4SC |
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| 12:44.47 | Fisker | i'm just gonna haste out of here |
| 12:49.14 | haste | so will I in one hour Fisker |
| 12:51.51 | karl_w_w | I fisked a guy and I liked it |
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| 13:26.19 | Fisker | oh no you don't karl_w_w |
| 13:31.46 | Fisker | plants C4 on haste |
| 13:32.50 | haste | is too fast. |
| 13:33.30 | kullervo | haste is a non-tangible concept, thus your attempt to plant c4 on it fails. |
| 13:38.04 | airtonix | umad? |
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| 14:26.12 | Fisker | haste |
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| 15:20.39 | starlon | http://digitallife.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/05/9222086-etsy-scans-your-facebook-friends-for-gift-ideas |
| 15:21.10 | starlon | suggested I buy chrome metal artwork for my friend because he likes Google Chrome the browser. |
| 15:22.04 | Ackis | "Without realizing it, I had become something that resembled a grown-up authority figure to a bunch of stupid fucking kids, which was weird, because in my head I was still a stupid fucking kid." so true |
| 15:29.33 | jnwhiteh | hrm.. checkinstall is a pretty package for ubuntu/debian |
| 15:30.51 | jnwhiteh | pretty neat, rather |
| 15:42.16 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 15:42.19 | Fisker | it's cold over here |
| 15:42.20 | Fisker | brrr |
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| 16:04.02 | mikma | http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/news/view/2832654775976450221/ |
| 16:04.07 | mikma | good things are coming, good things |
| 16:05.25 | Arrowmaster | link asks me to sign in |
| 16:06.21 | mikma | then do it, assmaster |
| 16:06.24 | mikma | err, arrowmaster |
| 16:09.49 | Arrowmaster | just got asked if i was sure i wanted to close 520 tabs |
| 16:10.55 | mikma | well were you? |
| 16:12.15 | Arrowmaster | no but i had to |
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| 16:20.32 | Arrowmaster | oh shit this could be bad, upgrading firefox and bartab lite is not compatible |
| 16:21.00 | Arrowmaster | so 520 tabs all loading at once |
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| 16:23.13 | Stanzilla | haha |
| 16:23.40 | Arrowmaster | oh they seem to have added a feature like bartab lite to firefox and enabled it by default so im safe |
| 16:24.45 | Arrowmaster | although this did start playing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr-buV4tYOA |
| 16:24.48 | Stanzilla | what is that feature |
| 16:25.21 | Arrowmaster | preferences menu, general tab, "Don't load tabs until selected" |
| 16:25.36 | Stanzilla | ah |
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| 16:35.59 | pompy | yeah load on demand now |
| 16:36.05 | pompy | and 520 tabs Arrowmaster!!? |
| 16:36.25 | Arrowmaster | i keep forgetting to close them and when i restart the browser they arent loaded anyway |
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| 17:04.53 | karl_w_w | i remember when tabs didnt load until selected because they were cached... |
| 17:05.48 | karl_w_w | in other news, oceanics have an advantage in progression |
| 17:06.29 | karl_w_w | our valor reset is a day before everyone else, and along with it raid finder looting |
| 17:06.54 | Fisker | mad karl_w_w ? |
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| 17:09.59 | karl_w_w | not really |
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| 17:11.52 | NickG365 | Damn, and I thought I was bad with 50-100 tabs open at any given time. |
| 17:12.30 | Fisker | good karl_w_w |
| 17:12.38 | Fisker | i'm awesome haste |
| 17:17.03 | karl_w_w | fisker |
| 17:17.11 | karl_w_w | queue for raid finder as a healer pls |
| 17:17.27 | karl_w_w | and tell me why this 2/8 keeps popping |
| 17:17.48 | karl_w_w | thanks, i got a fresh one finally, must be thanks to you |
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| 17:35.48 | Fisker | one of these days karl_w_w |
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| 18:17.12 | Arrowmaster | so i just had a fun little experience with gnome3 trying to disable a broken extension that wouldnt let me login |
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| 18:17.55 | Arrowmaster | no im lying, these devs are fucking morons because the only way to disable the extension was to do cmdline hackery with dconf |
| 18:18.05 | Arrowmaster | whoever thought of putting the 'oh uh something has gone wrong' error message should be murdered |
| 18:18.39 | Arrowmaster | i had to find this blog post that i was lucky enough to have previously read to remember it was out there to fix it http://blog.taz.net.au/2011/11/27/some-more-reasons-to-hate-gnome-shell/ |
| 18:19.10 | Arrowmaster | wants MATE to be available in debian |
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| 18:21.47 | DJJeff | nevcairiel: you have great addons but bartender4 vehicle ui is extremely buggy |
| 18:23.28 | Arrowmaster | the taint issue? |
| 18:24.17 | karl_w_w | i wouldn't say extremely |
| 18:24.32 | DJJeff | if I get on a sandbox tiger I cant get off |
| 18:24.38 | DJJeff | I think thats extremely buggy |
| 18:24.50 | DJJeff | I cant do half the darkmoon faire things |
| 18:24.55 | DJJeff | cause of no vehicle ui |
| 18:25.00 | karl_w_w | turn it on |
| 18:25.16 | karl_w_w | go to bar 1 |
| 18:25.18 | DJJeff | I even deleted my savedvariables and started over |
| 18:25.23 | DJJeff | it still doesnt show up |
| 18:25.26 | karl_w_w | and on the state config tab |
| 18:25.40 | karl_w_w | tick possess bar |
| 18:26.57 | karl_w_w | i'd suggest binding leave vehicle as well |
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| 18:35.11 | DJJeff | I should probley do this with say bar 10 so I can make it a bit bigger :) |
| 18:35.19 | DJJeff | but it kinda fixes it |
| 18:49.17 | DJJeff | [target=posses,exists]show;hide |
| 18:49.24 | DJJeff | will that work? |
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| 18:50.46 | DJJeff | this is giving me a major headache :( |
| 18:51.03 | DJJeff | they shoulda just made a dedicated bar for possesing |
| 18:52.37 | Arrowmaster | the pet bar |
| 18:52.40 | alestane | If you're trying to show something only when you're possessing something, try "[bonusbar:6] show; hide" |
| 18:53.02 | alestane | I'm not 100% sure about the number, but there's a conditional for that. |
| 18:53.09 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats the number |
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| 19:02.38 | Arrowmaster | Adys: ping |
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| 19:06.08 | mikma | http://youtu.be/0XktW6nkdVI?hd=1 |
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| 19:13.52 | Fisker | i agree mikma |
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| 19:43.41 | Adys | Arrowmaster: pong |
| 19:44.06 | Fisker | puts out a ping pong table |
| 19:44.31 | Arrowmaster | Adys: anyway to list all mimetypes set to open with a certain program with xdg-mime or similar |
| 19:44.51 | Fisker | any way* |
| 19:44.54 | Adys | Arrowmaster: not that i know of, the DE takes care of that (kde-open) |
| 19:45.04 | Adys | ive been writing tools to do just that though |
| 19:45.09 | Arrowmaster | basically want to make everything currently using totem to use smplayer |
| 19:46.03 | Adys | Arrowmaster: easiest way is look in totem.desktop and add all the mime types to smplayer.desktop, and add totem to [Removed Associations] section in ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list |
| 19:46.19 | Adys | though the very easiest way is to remove totem |
| 19:46.32 | Arrowmaster | i wish i could, fucking gnome3 |
| 19:46.35 | Adys | wheres the new darkmoon faire? |
| 19:46.59 | foxlit | in the void. |
| 19:47.01 | Adys | Arrowmaster: if you're up for quite a bit of tweaking, i recommend Razor |
| 19:47.09 | foxlit | ports at the old locations, though. |
| 19:47.23 | Adys | foxlit: all of them? |
| 19:47.36 | Adys | or just one at a time still? |
| 19:47.40 | foxlit | I imagine so. Revelers in capitals will also port you. |
| 19:47.50 | Arrowmaster | fuck this DVDSCR sucks, gota find something else to watch |
| 19:48.12 | Fisker | y u dvdscr pls? |
| 19:48.43 | Adys | oh i see its a new zone |
| 19:59.08 | amro | Arrowmaster: I thought you uninstalled it |
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| 20:04.40 | mikma | cairenn: http://youtu.be/0XktW6nkdVI?hd=1 |
| 20:04.59 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 20:29.21 | alestane | Okay, watching Puma ads for this project is starting to hurt my brain. |
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| 21:35.53 | Arrowmaster | i broke gnome3 again |
| 21:36.45 | wereHamster | you broke a gnome? |
| 21:38.07 | nicoli_s | Arrowmaster:my xbox keeps telling me you want me to play cod |
| 21:38.41 | Arrowmaster | nicoli_s: so help me get the spec ops achievements and it will stop |
| 21:46.06 | Fisker | hey nicoli_s |
| 21:50.54 | batbot | Shirik fears to duel a bot, what a coward. |
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| 22:06.31 | Fisker | i'm dying over here nicoli_s |
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| 22:07.34 | Shirik | i'm not dying over here Fisker |
| 22:07.41 | Fisker | :( Shirik |
| 22:07.43 | Shirik | except I want my steam account back |
| 22:07.43 | Fisker | i wish you were |
| 22:07.52 | Fisker | whats wrong with it? |
| 22:07.56 | Shirik | steamguard owned me |
| 22:08.05 | Fisker | lolo |
| 22:08.06 | Shirik | new computer + dead email address = owned |
| 22:08.43 | Fisker | just recover the account |
| 22:08.58 | Shirik | eh? |
| 22:11.49 | Fisker | https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=1223-QROC-4460 |
| 22:12.20 | Shirik | I did this |
| 22:12.23 | Shirik | they are slow :( |
| 22:12.38 | Fisker | well it's brr |
| 22:12.41 | Fisker | and brr is brr |
| 22:12.50 | nevcairiel | its your damn fault for losing a mail address, or using a mail account that has the potential of getting lost |
| 22:12.56 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 22:12.57 | Shirik | I like |
| 22:13.07 | Fisker | i wish email didn't exist before e-mail |
| 22:13.09 | Shirik | I must have given them that email address like 8 years ago or something |
| 22:13.10 | Fisker | err |
| 22:13.14 | syrae | Hot steam + fiber optic cables == pretty! http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150413786083494.359253.299014548493&type=1 |
| 22:13.19 | Fisker | i wish e-mail didn't exist before gmail |
| 22:13.23 | Shirik | ^ |
| 22:13.26 | syrae | Also, my friend who works there says that they all still work |
| 22:13.40 | Fisker | looks hot syrae |
| 22:13.50 | syrae | Fisker: hur hur |
| 22:14.06 | Fisker | also what a crappy place to work :( |
| 22:14.29 | syrae | my friend doesn't have to fix it, at least. |
| 22:14.36 | Thunder_Child | syrae: so it was about 1400 C in there? |
| 22:14.55 | Ackis | http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvjw0yF5KS1r5851go1_500.gif |
| 22:15.03 | Ackis | nicoli_s, Cairenn|afk ^ |
| 22:15.06 | syrae | Thunder_Child: I don't know. It was hot enough to melt the covers and insulation, but not the fiber itself since they were still working |
| 22:15.12 | nevcairiel | looks like just the plastic exterior is all gooey, the actual fiber is probably intact |
| 22:16.51 | syrae | it kinda looks delicious! |
| 22:17.31 | Fisker | weird |
| 22:17.46 | Fisker | i thought they said the new C&C wouldn't be based in the tiberium or red alert storyline |
| 22:19.31 | Thunder_Child | they said they finished the storyline, but the universe is still valid |
| 22:20.28 | Fisker | i just hope they don't fuck it up like Tiberium Twilight |
| 22:20.53 | Stanzilla | I refused to play that |
| 22:21.26 | Thunder_Child | wasnt that bad |
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| 22:25.03 | Vladinator | :) |
| 22:26.05 | Vladinator | any pcap and python users on? |
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| 22:27.06 | Vladinator | :( |
| 22:27.18 | Vladinator | why is python so epic but so hard to build into a exe? :( |
| 22:28.09 | Vladinator | and these packages, makes sharing scripts with friends totally impossible if you have some weird package and you cant find the installer any longer, lol :p |
| 22:31.06 | Fisker | everyday i'm Shirik'ing |
| 22:32.31 | Stanzilla | I'm going to fisk the fisk out of you, Fisker |
| 22:32.39 | Shirik | Vladinator, you are confused |
| 22:32.44 | Shirik | you seem to think that python is epic |
| 22:32.46 | Shirik | when it is not |
| 22:32.58 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 22:33.01 | Fisker | i don't feel well |
| 22:33.54 | Stanzilla | what is it now |
| 22:34.35 | Vladinator | but python is cool and very nifty! |
| 22:34.50 | Vladinator | I wonder why it's not even easier to use, usually nifty stuff get improved to be easier :p |
| 22:37.44 | Fisker | i don't know Stanzilla |
| 22:37.49 | Fisker | think i ate something bad |
| 22:38.13 | Mr_Rabies | was it lutefisker |
| 22:38.53 | Fisker | nope Mr_Rabies |
| 22:38.55 | Fisker | it was you |
| 22:38.57 | Fisker | :O |
| 22:39.02 | Mr_Rabies | twist of the year |
| 22:40.19 | Ackis | hey do I need to notify my insurance (car) and bank that I got married? |
| 22:41.10 | Vladinator | hehe, converted askmrrobot formulas to ingame addon, now my tooltips shows a score telling me what items are better... :3 nifty |
| 22:43.25 | Vladinator | anyone used wowhead to look up darkmoon faire stuff recently? |
| 22:43.57 | syrae | Ackis: married men tend to get better car insurance rates than singles |
| 22:44.05 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: depends where you live, since there are different laws, but i think marrige stuff is only helpful |
| 22:44.08 | nicoli_s | Ackis:yeah def i got some savings |
| 22:44.26 | Ackis | the bank said they didn't need to know muhahha |
| 22:44.42 | Ackis | is it wrong that we called Blizzard before we did car insurance/drivers license/work names? |
| 22:45.15 | Arrowmaster | no because you knew blizzard would be the most difficult one |
| 22:45.44 | Ackis | ironically enough they are |
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| 23:28.57 | Sintacks | -- Theoretically shouldn't EVER do this. But what the heck. |
| 23:29.01 | Sintacks | not the kind of comments i like reading ... |
| 23:29.52 | Maldivia | I love those kind of comments :P |
| 23:32.12 | Xyphoid | i liked finding '// seriously. f copper's dependance on magic quotes. f it in the ear.' |
| 23:32.38 | alestane | "-- table for reuse! Yay reuse!" |
| 23:32.42 | Fisker | did you submit it to th ESRB? |
| 23:33.33 | Xyphoid | grepping for swear words in code we buy is fun times |
| 23:33.58 | Fisker | we need a hot coffee incident for WoW |
| 23:34.35 | Mr_Rabies | already is one fisker |
| 23:34.40 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.wowhead.com/npc=50524 |
| 23:34.44 | Mr_Rabies | ;] |
| 23:38.12 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: i just turned a dreadlords head into a pin cousion without him ever spotting me, this is why ive not spent any perk points yet i havent had a need to |
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