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| 00:29.39 | Fisker | oh no Arrowmaster |
| 00:30.34 | Fisker | oh no mckenziemc |
| 00:30.48 | Fisker | oh no nicoli_s |
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| 00:31.57 | Fisker | oh no tekkub |
| 00:57.04 | Thunder_Child | trollin hard Fisker, or hardly trollin? |
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| 01:18.55 | Fisker | :( |
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| 02:23.50 | Lunessa | And the official PVP season ends announcement: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/3992149/PvP_Season_10_Ending_Soon-11_28_2011#blog |
| 02:26.03 | syrae | yarp |
| 02:26.28 | syrae | Lunessa: did you try out SWTOR over the weekend? |
| 02:26.34 | Lunessa | Yes. |
| 02:26.42 | syrae | What'd you think of it? |
| 02:26.51 | Lunessa | I played 6-8 hours worth on Saturday night. |
| 02:27.15 | syrae | That's a good chunk. You would have made it off the first world if you stuck with one character |
| 02:27.15 | Lunessa | The game feels like a single-player game with many sub-systems tacked on to be an MMO. |
| 02:27.23 | syrae | that |
| 02:27.31 | syrae | that pretty much sums up how I've felt |
| 02:27.39 | Lunessa | I did. I was on the second Sith world when I logged out. |
| 02:28.15 | Lunessa | I'm also irked that a) walking everywhere is the norm and b) I'm still mugging mobs for their lunch money. |
| 02:28.19 | syrae | I'm kinda "meh" about it because while I'd love to play through the story lines... at the same time I'm not sure I'd really enjoy it for very long |
| 02:28.35 | Lunessa | But the voice acting? TOP NOTCH. |
| 02:28.48 | Lunessa | Cut scenes? Very pretty. But every where. |
| 02:28.58 | syrae | Yeah. At level 15? 14? you get Sprint. So you can run places faster (ie: Druid run form) and at 25, you get a speeder, finally |
| 02:29.51 | syrae | Which class did you try out? |
| 02:29.52 | Lunessa | I think I was like… level 12. |
| 02:30.06 | Lunessa | I did Sith > Sith Inquisitor > Sith Assassin |
| 02:31.37 | syrae | The rogue path, then :) |
| 02:31.47 | Lunessa | I was disappointed that the game has essentially WoW-style Talent Trees for the Advanced classes. I also felt like I would enjoy the game more if I rarely had to interact with other players. |
| 02:32.03 | Lunessa | Sith Assassin was billed as a tank/dps class. |
| 02:33.08 | Lunessa | I was very amused that my first armor drop turned my pants into tighty-whitys. |
| 02:34.29 | Lunessa | but the starter quests all felt very much like medieval stuff, and not 'member of a high tech society' stuff. It didn't feel very "Star Wars" - It felt, well, bad D&D campaign. |
| 02:34.38 | syrae | heh |
| 02:34.43 | syrae | yeah |
| 02:34.50 | Lunessa | Once I got to the first group quest it felt more Star Wars. |
| 02:35.03 | Lunessa | I mean, the one off planet, not the one in the starter zone |
| 02:38.14 | syrae | yarp |
| 02:39.37 | Lunessa | Someone said to me "the fact that it feels like a single player games makes me more likely to buy it, play through the content and un-sub." |
| 02:40.18 | syrae | yarp |
| 02:42.30 | syrae | you've pretty much hit all the salient points about how I feel about it |
| 02:45.21 | Lunessa | Not sure if I would play it, but it does make me want to get a copy of Mass Effect and play it. |
| 02:45.47 | syrae | mmm I loved Mass Effect |
| 02:45.55 | syrae | except for the elevators |
| 02:46.17 | syrae | Also, sorry for the slow responses... I was drawing Christmas lights on my whiteboard |
| 02:46.41 | Lunessa | … GO home. |
| 02:46.51 | syrae | oh |
| 02:46.54 | mckenziemc | erases syrae's whiteboard |
| 02:46.55 | syrae | good ideea |
| 02:47.14 | syrae | mckenziemc: my whiteboard is so awesome people at work take pictures of it every few weeks |
| 02:47.45 | syrae | Lunessa: thanks for confirming my thoughts on SWTOR |
| 02:47.56 | syrae | and the excellent suggestion to escape the workplace |
| 02:48.04 | Lunessa | Glad to help. I'll be doing a write up and posting it on Google+ like I did for D3. |
| 02:48.14 | syrae | Awesome :0 |
| 02:48.17 | syrae | er :) |
| 02:48.28 | syrae | ok, syrae is now fleeing the building! |
| 02:48.35 | syrae | o// |
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| 02:51.36 | Kraps | http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-7-most-elaborate-dick-moves-in-online-gaming-history/ |
| 02:52.54 | Lunessa | Strange how I was just reading that earlier. |
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| 03:01.11 | Arrowmaster | that sand giant one is hilarious |
| 03:02.31 | kd3 | oh, arrow, take a look at sankaku. the top article is hilarious |
| 03:05.12 | Mr_Rabies | i wouldn't recommend ever looking at sankaku |
| 03:05.47 | kd3 | that's why I'm pointing at it by reference rather than linking it... I'd rather not break channel members for no good reason |
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| 03:14.02 | Lunessa | Are you saying you are saving channel member breaking content for when you *have* a good reason? |
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| 03:14.14 | kd3 | of course! aren't we all? |
| 03:14.21 | Lunessa | Challenge Accepted. |
| 03:15.59 | airtonix | Mr_Rabies: i wouldn't ever recommend looking at ya face |
| 03:16.13 | Mr_Rabies | :<: |
| 03:16.16 | Mr_Rabies | oh no |
| 03:16.16 | airtonix | ufoamingmad? |
| 03:16.19 | Mr_Rabies | my face has more eyes |
| 03:16.22 | Mr_Rabies | maybe that's why |
| 03:16.44 | airtonix | oh hey |
| 03:17.37 | airtonix | lulz was had, "computer technician" calls me up and says , i'm having a problem with a website. i tell him what browser are you using, he says firefox3 because i hate google chrome because every website i goto i have to type out http://www.websitename |
| 03:20.04 | Lunessa | … so basically, clueless user was clueless? |
| 03:20.44 | airtonix | oh |
| 03:20.52 | airtonix | firefox8 it was not chrome |
| 03:21.12 | airtonix | his problem with chrome was that it caused this slideshow to dvd program to stop working on windows xp |
| 03:21.31 | airtonix | but in his defense at least he said internet explorer was crap |
| 03:22.07 | A-KO | anyone still using Windows XP has no real say in saying anything is crap |
| 03:22.17 | A-KO | their opinion doesn't matter :P |
| 03:23.11 | Lunessa | Now, now, there are a few… very few, good reasons to use XP still. |
| 03:23.24 | Lunessa | Most of them boil down to "legacy systems" |
| 03:24.27 | kd3 | thinks about work computers and sighs |
| 03:24.37 | kd3 | we were still using IE6 up until summer... |
| 03:25.45 | A-KO | this is why my job interviews are as much of an interview of the company for me as it is of me to them |
| 03:25.56 | A-KO | I don't work at places that are going to keep me from doing preventative IT work |
| 03:26.07 | A-KO | I refuse to work in a shop that's entirely reactive |
| 03:26.12 | A-KO | it's not worth the stress |
| 03:26.29 | A-KO | I have enough to deal with regarding learning new technologies and keeping my skills up, not going to bother using 10 year old shit because of that. |
| 03:26.41 | A-KO | That said, a good 50% of our systems at work are still XP that we're migrating out in favor of 7. |
| 03:27.23 | A-KO | but it's still a road to go |
| 03:27.31 | A-KO | all of IT and Executives are on 7 |
| 03:27.49 | Lunessa | Here there are a few programs the chemistry department keeps nursing along that run under XP, and there's a number of legacy databases that departments use that only run on XP and cost more than nursing along an old machine to convert to something else. *shrug* |
| 03:27.49 | kd3 | of course the execs get 7. they must have the shiny new thing |
| 03:28.46 | A-KO | actually kd3, it's largely because we as IT want 7 in the environment. The execs aren't USUALLY using specific custom coded products that say, our developers have to use. Our execs use 99% office products and web-based applications that depend more on browser than OS. |
| 03:28.53 | A-KO | It's a combination of "shiny new thing" and just good practice |
| 03:28.57 | Lunessa | Oh and the Environmental Institute has some critical stuff that they can't upgrade to windows 7 because the vendor hasn't got a Windows 7 compatible version out yet… |
| 03:29.02 | A-KO | get the execs to use it gets them on our side for deployment |
| 03:29.03 | A-KO | :) |
| 03:29.19 | kd3 | har |
| 03:29.20 | A-KO | Lunessa: yeah, I'd leave a place like that--not worth it |
| 03:29.31 | kd3 | I'm just happy school's finally rolled out 7 more or less everywhere now |
| 03:29.44 | Lunessa | A-KO: If I had something lined up with lower-stress than I have here for about the same or better money, I'd take it. |
| 03:30.00 | A-KO | a 10 year old operating system isn't worth any amount of stress. My job right now is relatively low stress, which is good. |
| 03:30.06 | A-KO | I get time to do things like plan stuff |
| 03:31.04 | Lunessa | Here, when I leave at night, I don't take the job home. This is about the only time in my entire 26 year job history that has been true. |
| 03:32.04 | A-KO | given the nature of what I do the lines are blurred between work and play for me, often times crossing |
| 03:32.17 | A-KO | no wife, no gf, no kids--might as well do something productive with my time :) |
| 03:33.53 | Lunessa | Heh. |
| 03:36.06 | Cairenn | Leaving your job at work? Errr, what? |
| 03:36.18 | Arrowmaster | just look at it this way, at least you guys have jobs |
| 03:37.25 | Lunessa | Hey, I having a job. This makes me less unhappy than not having one. However, a job I could work from home with better pay and strange hours would be ok by me too. |
| 03:37.40 | Lunessa | Also, Cairenn, does you need a hug? |
| 03:37.52 | Cairenn | I always like hugs :) |
| 03:37.58 | Lunessa | *hug* |
| 03:38.06 | Cairenn | *hug* |
| 03:38.51 | A-KO | I'm looking at starting an LLC and doing some side consulting, but I'm debating if I really want to deal with small business owners |
| 03:39.20 | Lunessa | If you dislike working with needy customers, the answer to that is "hell no." |
| 03:39.24 | A-KO | yeah |
| 03:39.30 | A-KO | needy, cheap SOBs |
| 03:39.37 | A-KO | the problem is, extra $ is extra $... |
| 03:39.40 | A-KO | so that's the tough decision |
| 03:39.56 | Lunessa | Consulting is a hand-holding business. |
| 03:40.20 | Lunessa | And small businesses will try to use you as their IT department on a budget. |
| 03:40.30 | A-KO | yep |
| 03:40.48 | Lunessa | Which means you WILL get a 4am call because solitaire quit working. |
| 03:40.56 | A-KO | haha |
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| 03:51.47 | Lunessa | I used to do IT consulting for small business - Some one strung a 200' cat 5 cable across a warehouse to hook up a computer in the back office and couldn't get connected to the internet. They called me about this at 11pm on a Friday. |
| 03:52.24 | mckenziemc1 | lol |
| 03:54.50 | Cairenn | comforts Lunessa |
| 03:55.09 | Lunessa | The problem was a) 200' cat 5 cable and b) they'ed crimped the connectors on themselves badly. I handed them a $10 powered hub and 2 other cables. Problem solved. (this is pre the existence of wi-fi). |
| 03:55.40 | Arrowmaster | whats wrong with 200' cat 5 |
| 03:56.00 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: They had signal degradation over the cheap cable. |
| 03:56.20 | Arrowmaster | was it cat5 and not cat5e? |
| 03:56.21 | Lunessa | Even after I reattached the connectors correctly. |
| 03:56.48 | Arrowmaster | a proper cable would have been fine at 200' |
| 03:57.09 | Lunessa | And guess what they did at this small business? They made computer cables. |
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| 03:57.12 | mckenziemc1 | i had a working 500' cat 5e cable once D: |
| 03:57.17 | Arrowmaster | unless they also had massive interference |
| 03:57.34 | mckenziemc1 | then a squirrel chewed it :( |
| 03:58.00 | Arrowmaster | Lunessa: small business and making computer cables sounds stupid, the big names always making them better and cheaper so why bother |
| 03:58.54 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: This company assembled cables using local labor, as a part of a work program for people with deficient intellects. |
| 03:59.28 | Lunessa | And it was 1997, so, there was some demand for their product. |
| 04:00.07 | Arrowmaster | i guess that was slightly before the injection molded cables you can get now |
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| 04:32.00 | Lunessa | Home time. Ciao tutti. |
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| 04:42.58 | mckenziemc1 | eats blu |
| 05:15.55 | pompy | http://i.imgur.com/vNGuT.gif |
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| 05:43.46 | bluspacecow | hmm is the twitters down for anyone or is it just me ? |
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| 05:46.13 | Jamash | twitter is always down |
| 05:46.40 | bluspacecow | lolol |
| 05:47.31 | Jamash | omg skyrim got 40/40 in famitsu |
| 05:47.41 | Jamash | IT IS THE END TIMES |
| 05:48.06 | Arrowmaster | first non japanese game to get a 40? |
| 05:48.21 | Jamash | I think so |
| 05:48.30 | Dagmar | Oh i'm sure they had some mod to remove all the epicanthic folds |
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| 05:48.53 | Jamash | that's racist |
| 05:49.06 | Dagmar | No, it's pretty nerdy. |
| 05:50.01 | Dagmar | Everyone's too damn wrinkly in the game as it is |
| 05:50.21 | Jamash | too much time in the bath? |
| 05:50.45 | Dagmar | Nah. Too much artsy in the art department I think. |
| 05:50.59 | Dagmar | Some of the elven races look like they had a terrible accident with a pair of binoculars |
| 05:51.15 | Dagmar | Possibly involving a shovel to the head as well |
| 05:51.19 | Jamash | I can't play real RPGs so I experience skyrim vicariously |
| 05:51.21 | mckenziemc1 | o.o |
| 05:51.56 | pompy | bluspacecow: http://downorisitjustme.com/res.php?url=twitter |
| 05:52.20 | mckenziemc1 | why would you want to visit twitter anyway |
| 05:52.30 | pompy | ^ |
| 05:52.34 | Dagmar | Jamash: The models are freaking awesome, except for the faces |
| 05:53.00 | Jamash | pompy: ufailatdns |
| 05:53.01 | bluspacecow | i'm following the twits of several blizzard employees |
| 05:54.16 | Dagmar | Jamash: The non-humans are a little too "artsy" in certain ways like forehead ridges from hell that would look okay in a stylized sketch, but when blown up to 3D and shown in proximity to "normal" models, you're just like ... "Ugh. That's homely" |
| 05:54.26 | Jamash | anyway it looks like twittar is having intermittent failures |
| 05:54.35 | pompy | Jamash: oh? |
| 05:54.45 | Jamash | twitter ~= twitter.com |
| 05:55.53 | bluspacecow | skyrim patch notes "Fixed occasional issue where a guest would arrive to the player’s wedding dead" |
| 05:55.55 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 05:56.00 | Dagmar | Yeah |
| 05:56.01 | Jamash | I heard about that! |
| 05:56.01 | pompy | Jamash: oh i see, my bad |
| 05:56.04 | mckenziemc1 | lol |
| 05:56.05 | Jamash | so hilarious! |
| 05:56.12 | Dagmar | If Lydia gets killed, the game spawns her at key places. |
| 05:56.14 | bluspacecow | http://www.curse.com/news/skyrim/43140-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-1-2-patch-deploys-this |
| 05:56.15 | Jamash | then everyone would freak out! |
| 05:56.19 | Dagmar | One them being the wedding if you marry. |
| 05:56.23 | bluspacecow | in case anyone wants to read them that hasnt |
| 05:56.42 | Dagmar | The bride freaks out over the body and storms off. |
| 05:56.51 | Jamash | Fixed rare issue with dead corpses being cleared up prematurely |
| 05:57.02 | nicoli_s | wow weird seeing curse.com news linked |
| 05:57.05 | Dagmar | I'm more interested in the mouse issue |
| 05:57.07 | Jamash | "dead corpses" as opposed to...? |
| 05:57.20 | mckenziemc1 | undead corpses, jamash |
| 05:57.20 | Dagmar | Jamash: See also 'draghr' |
| 05:57.37 | Arrowmaster | good to see they arent fixing the glitches people are using to level up faster or make money |
| 05:57.41 | Dagmar | There's quite a number of dead but still quite ambulatory Ancient Nords in there |
| 05:58.14 | Dagmar | THe mouse issue has been driving me crazy because it's a very subtle input lag |
| 05:58.57 | Dagmar | It also comes and goes as it pleases, so one minute everything's cool, then for the next 20 minutes it feels like you're playing over VNC |
| 05:59.33 | Jamash | ugh |
| 05:59.51 | Dagmar | It's just enough to make fast work with the bow hell at a distance |
| 06:00.26 | Dagmar | I'd like to see them ramp up destruction skill gains and maybe tone down bow damage a bit |
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| 06:00.52 | Dagmar | I'd _prefer_ to nuke people, but even a half dozen fireballs won't take down some guys that three arrows will |
| 06:01.25 | Dagmar | ...so mainly my tactic winds up being casting Bound Bow and then firing off a bunch of arrows even at close range. |
| 06:01.53 | Jamash | I hear top end destruction kills stuff real good |
| 06:02.06 | Dagmar | Now I've got a glass bow with a base damage of freaking 60, enchanted with 34 points of fire *and* frost per hit. |
| 06:02.17 | Dagmar | Add a potion to that and a simple sneak attack with the bow does GINORMOUS damage |
| 06:02.21 | Jamash | a glass bow sounds like a really terrible idea |
| 06:02.34 | Dagmar | It kills mastodons in about eight shots |
| 06:02.38 | Arrowmaster | daedric does more damage |
| 06:02.55 | Dagmar | Yeah you'd think but you can't enchant the bound bow |
| 06:03.12 | Arrowmaster | i mean the normal daedric, not bound |
| 06:03.14 | Dagmar | Bound weapons are daedric-equivalent |
| 06:03.41 | Arrowmaster | and you can enchant the bound bow, but only with one enchant |
| 06:03.57 | Dagmar | What? How? |
| 06:04.12 | Arrowmaster | perk for soul drain |
| 06:04.21 | Arrowmaster | trap |
| 06:04.43 | Dagmar | Oh, that. |
| 06:04.54 | Dagmar | That's the reason I have about a jillion soul gems. |
| 06:05.13 | Dagmar | I buy 'em empty and they just fill up faster than I can use them up. |
| 06:05.50 | Jamash | I NEED MORE SOULS |
| 06:06.03 | Jamash | I would go around saying that all the time on my warlock |
| 06:06.13 | Jamash | sadly souls are no longer required |
| 06:07.33 | karl_w_w | so im playing portal 2, and all I can think of is maloriak saying "must find out, for science!" |
| 06:07.45 | Dagmar | I didnt' even find it a problem that when I restored Azura's Star that it can't take human souls. |
| 06:07.50 | Dagmar | There's plenty of dragons around. |
| 06:08.45 | Arrowmaster | whats the point of human souls being different? |
| 06:09.09 | Arrowmaster | why would you use human souls over a grand gem with a creature? |
| 06:09.15 | Thunder_Child | to make a point that human souls are not as powerful or as worthy |
| 06:09.40 | Jamash | your soul isn't as worthy |
| 06:10.09 | Thunder_Child | i know |
| 06:10.24 | Dagmar | Creatures with grand souls normally aren't that common |
| 06:10.58 | Dagmar | You wind up killing _craploads_ of bandits, which, for whatever egalitarian bullshit reasons, count as grand souls. |
| 06:12.06 | Dagmar | That's why black soul gems are a big deal |
| 06:12.23 | Jamash | gotta catch em all? |
| 06:12.27 | Dagmar | But we've pretty much got dragons "on tap" now so it fails to matter that much |
| 06:17.16 | Jamash | hot and cold running dragons? |
| 06:17.24 | mckenziemc1 | >< |
| 06:17.59 | Dagmar | There's dragons that just show up, on a timer I think, and if that's not enough for you there's pretty much a static dragon on every mountain top |
| 06:18.20 | Jamash | I hear skyrim has all the dragons |
| 06:18.33 | Dagmar | You can't really ignore them either, because if you're at say, Whiterun or just outside it and one shows up, it can perma-kill NPCs you might wanna keep |
| 06:18.39 | Dagmar | Specifically blacksmiths. |
| 06:19.11 | Jamash | fascinating |
| 06:19.23 | Jamash | it's almost like you care about the lives of other characters! |
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| 06:19.37 | Dagmar | I care when I'm milking them for their cash |
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| 06:19.42 | Jamash | like I said, almost |
| 06:19.43 | Dagmar | They are money cows. |
| 06:19.43 | Arrowmaster | npc's getting perma killed by random mobs is just wrong |
| 06:20.00 | Dagmar | There's a certain noble's wife I'm probably going to murder soon |
| 06:20.17 | Dagmar | I would have waffle-stomped one of the Jarl's kids by now if it were possible |
| 06:20.37 | Dagmar | Tired of hearing that woman complain about her husband stuffing himself up backsides. |
| 06:20.42 | Jamash | put a bucket on their head |
| 06:20.57 | Dagmar | I'm about to start a second character. |
| 06:21.30 | Dagmar | One who will kill anyone for any percieved wrong, no matter how slight |
| 06:22.09 | Dagmar | Starting with the bloody guards who like to annoy me by requesting I summon a warm bed for them |
| 06:22.30 | Dagmar | That's too much like a straight line |
| 06:22.31 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 06:22.57 | Dagmar | "how about a shady garden plot instead?" or possibly "Well, _warm_ I can do. *FWOOSH*" |
| 06:23.35 | Dagmar | Unless you're just heavily outmatched, there's no excuse for dying in 1-on-1 melee combat |
| 06:23.52 | Dagmar | You can sword and board pretty much anything |
| 06:24.33 | Dagmar | Also, once you're about level 48 and you start going back to clean up some of those miscellaneous missions, there's something to be said for just running around in a bathrobe and facepunching skeletons. |
| 06:24.54 | Dagmar | ...when the bones go everywhere, it's fucking *awesome* |
| 06:25.13 | Jamash | I hear someone worked out an unarmed cat melee build |
| 06:25.21 | Dagmar | You can pretty much do it |
| 06:25.55 | Dagmar | You can perk your way into pretty much being a wow rogue |
| 06:26.01 | Dagmar | Stunlock == guaranteed win |
| 06:26.12 | Jamash | go around punching dragons in the face |
| 06:26.15 | Jamash | yeahbut there's no unarmed rogue build |
| 06:26.19 | Dagmar | Wow. That would not work so well. |
| 06:26.31 | Dagmar | Dragons have the one "unfair" combat mechanic that I've noticed. |
| 06:26.51 | Dagmar | If you're within "dinner" distance and fail to block at the right time, you're done. |
| 06:27.08 | Dagmar | I can't really argue that that's unrealistic tho. ;) |
| 06:27.44 | Dagmar | Folks who refuse to use ranged attacks will find dragons to be a giant pain |
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| 06:28.14 | Dagmar | Fuck counting on your shield. Use a *cottage* to block that breath |
| 06:28.50 | Dagmar | Some very large trees will do, but it's risky |
| 06:33.17 | Mr_Rabies | there's this dragon in dark souls that is totally brutal |
| 06:33.26 | Mr_Rabies | i can't find a good video of it other than people cheesing it |
| 06:33.43 | Jamash | the bridge one? |
| 06:33.47 | Mr_Rabies | but it's probably the hardest hititng enemy in the game and it's not even a boss |
| 06:33.48 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 06:33.53 | Mr_Rabies | hitting* |
| 06:34.03 | Jamash | so you go get five thousand arrows and shoot it in the tail until it dies |
| 06:34.20 | Mr_Rabies | well its tail eventually falls off :p |
| 06:34.25 | Jamash | :-O |
| 06:34.56 | Mr_Rabies | and he heals himself unless you're pretty high dexterity with an upgraded bow |
| 06:35.14 | Mr_Rabies | well, he still does but usually you can damage him before he heals up if you do that |
| 06:35.21 | Mr_Rabies | not cheesing him is insane though |
| 06:35.51 | Mr_Rabies | i think the regular tougher enemies in dark souls are harder than the hardest things in skyrim :P |
| 06:35.58 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=L8ZHKJ6uo9k#t=196s |
| 06:36.23 | Mr_Rabies | i know it's a totally different game but there's some comparison |
| 06:36.44 | Jamash | DS LPs should just be called "Let's Die: Dark Souls" |
| 06:37.03 | pompy | http://gamerant.com/skyrim-map-all-notable-locations-dyce-118504/ |
| 06:37.43 | Jamash | is he even damaging it at all? |
| 06:38.08 | Mr_Rabies | hardly, hahaha |
| 06:38.31 | Jamash | finally, a game that accurately models awkward hallway combat! |
| 06:40.14 | Mr_Rabies | yeah fighting in hallways with anything but a spear is suicide |
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| 06:41.03 | Jamash | clang |
| 06:41.15 | Jamash | there's the wind up! |
| 06:41.19 | Jamash | aand the pitch |
| 06:41.52 | Mr_Rabies | it's so awesome though, heh |
| 06:41.59 | Mr_Rabies | i just beat it, took like 105 hours or so |
| 06:42.02 | Mr_Rabies | and i'm going back through |
| 06:42.02 | Jamash | I've watched other videos of this section |
| 06:42.05 | Mr_Rabies | a second time |
| 06:42.15 | Mr_Rabies | on new game + |
| 06:42.30 | Jamash | on new game plus are you just naked the whole time and have to punch things to death? |
| 06:42.31 | Mr_Rabies | harder enemies, bigger prizes |
| 06:42.53 | Mr_Rabies | nah, they just have more hp, do more damage, and you can't upgrade your items any higher than in new game |
| 06:42.59 | Jamash | dang |
| 06:43.19 | Jamash | sounds pretty brutal |
| 06:43.32 | Mr_Rabies | oh and they're smarter at working together and are harder to stagger out of holding their shield or whatever |
| 06:44.39 | Mr_Rabies | like, all items have a cap that you can reach in NG, but the cap doesn't go up at all for NG+ |
| 06:44.48 | Jamash | NG- |
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| 06:44.51 | Mr_Rabies | and you can go NG+ with it getting harder each time up to 7 times before it caps out |
| 06:45.02 | Jamash | dear god |
| 06:45.22 | Mr_Rabies | i'm working on staying human the whole time in NG+ if i can |
| 06:45.35 | Mr_Rabies | i keep getting invaded by people who cut through my leather armor like it's nothing though :( |
| 06:45.43 | Jamash | huh |
| 06:45.54 | Mr_Rabies | other players can invade your world |
| 06:46.16 | Mr_Rabies | and their goal is to kill you and they get a cut of the souls (exp + currency for items) |
| 06:46.33 | Mr_Rabies | and to become human you have rare items caled Humanity you consume |
| 06:46.45 | Mr_Rabies | dying reverts you to undead and you have to use another humanity to become human again |
| 06:47.05 | Mr_Rabies | but as a human, you can summon other players to co-op with you if they lay down co-op signs |
| 06:47.31 | Jamash | dark souls is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too far down the rabbit hole for me |
| 06:47.50 | Mr_Rabies | so i'm more focusing on the online aspects now that they've been improved with the most recent patch |
| 06:47.56 | Mr_Rabies | they were a bit buggy on my first playthrough |
| 06:48.09 | Mr_Rabies | there's lots of different kinds of online stuff that's awesome and unique |
| 06:48.40 | airtonix | Jamash: your mum is a real RPG |
| 06:48.51 | Jamash | cool story biro |
| 06:48.56 | Mr_Rabies | like, there's a convenant (think npc guild kinda) that you can join where you can kill people who invade the forest |
| 06:49.14 | Mr_Rabies | there's one that facilitates invading other player's worlds |
| 06:49.28 | Mr_Rabies | there's one that makes all the enemies way harder until you find their summon sign, go to their world, and kill them |
| 06:49.33 | airtonix | Jamash: i'm suing you for un-authorised use of my Pen IP Trademark |
| 06:49.49 | Jamash | yeah I listen to a lot of gaming podcasts so I've heard a tremendous amount of dark souls and skyrim talk |
| 06:49.51 | Mr_Rabies | makes all the enemies for players whose worlds you corrupt harder* |
| 06:49.52 | airtonix | Jamash: but first you have to come to germany and repeat that |
| 06:50.17 | Mr_Rabies | it's amazing |
| 06:50.21 | Mr_Rabies | game of the year every year |
| 06:57.29 | airtonix | so is dark souls a massive world type place like skyrim? |
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| 07:05.10 | Mr_Rabies | it's not as massive as skyrim by any means |
| 07:05.17 | Mr_Rabies | but it's a large interconnected world |
| 07:05.30 | Mr_Rabies | not a single cubic centimeter is wasted either |
| 07:05.53 | Mr_Rabies | there's something willing to kill you at every corner |
| 07:07.01 | Mr_Rabies | and healing up/leveling up/etc at a bonfire respawns all enemies in the game world except bosses and minibosses, so you have to balance healing yourself versus advancing |
| 07:08.02 | Mr_Rabies | there's a limited use item that you can use to heal up away from bonfires that gets replenished when you use a bonfire, but basically the solution is either get heavy armor and don't get hit often, or get light armor and don't get hit |
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| 07:21.32 | Xuerian | DU DU DU DU DU SUBSCRIBE |
| 07:21.47 | bluspacecow | FUSH ROH DAR! |
| 07:21.59 | mckenziemc1 | O.o |
| 07:22.13 | Xuerian | mckenziemc1: http://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fuser%2FTobyGames%23p%2Fp&session_token=9pNgGzSj4wBuf4O5lpXinu7UfoN8MTMyMjYzNzU0MkAxMzIyNTUxMTQy |
| 07:22.15 | Xuerian | lkjsljdlkfj |
| 07:22.18 | Xuerian | I hate google. |
| 07:22.20 | Xuerian | I really do. |
| 07:22.23 | Xuerian | Search the internet |
| 07:22.32 | Xuerian | BUT CAN'T MAKE A REASONABLE HYPERLINK TO SAVE THEIR LIVES |
| 07:22.32 | mckenziemc1 | no thanks |
| 07:22.52 | Mr_Rabies | you guys ready to get treated worse than retail employees on black friday tomorrow? |
| 07:23.03 | Xuerian | HAHAHAHAHA |
| 07:23.05 | Xuerian | HAHA. |
| 07:23.05 | Xuerian | No. |
| 07:23.06 | bluspacecow | naw |
| 07:23.14 | bluspacecow | they're immune to silly addon users these days |
| 07:23.15 | Xuerian | Also mckenziemc1: http://www.youtube.com/user/TobyGames#p/p |
| 07:23.25 | bluspacecow | they're be like "bitch ? pls" |
| 07:23.44 | Xuerian | Except for me it's WHY U NO GOOEY OPTION YET MANG |
| 07:24.08 | Xuerian | Then for people who know about addons OMGFU Y UR AD-ON STILL USE ACE2344111. |
| 07:24.24 | Mr_Rabies | just send them a link to this and tell them it's an updated version |
| 07:24.26 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJWSogc5isc |
| 07:24.30 | Mr_Rabies | and relax and get some rest |
| 07:24.55 | Xuerian | Mr_Rabies: I prefer "Girl whatchu got?!?!" |
| 07:25.12 | Xuerian | Mr_Rabies: Also, there IS a updated version, line A is the new one and B is the only one >=| |
| 07:25.57 | Mr_Rabies | alternatively, this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1JzotTtUBA&feature=related |
| 07:26.08 | Mr_Rabies | but i think you might kill some people if they try to figure out what's going on there |
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| 07:27.40 | Xuerian | I'm not entirely sure what's going on there either to be honest |
| 07:30.48 | mckenziemc1 | "Senseless the Pilgrim" |
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| 07:35.46 | karl_w_w | is mapster going to work in 4.3? |
| 07:38.05 | karl_w_w | anyone here changed a car stereo before? would you recommend a noob like me get a professional to do it? :P |
| 07:46.19 | Mr_Rabies | if you can work on the internals of a computer it's not THAT different, at least in my case |
| 07:46.37 | Mr_Rabies | i understand there's not a lot of standardization though :/ |
| 07:48.12 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.crutchfield.com/learn/learningcenter/car/car_stereo/installation_guide.html?g=750&tp=457 |
| 07:48.34 | Mr_Rabies | crutchfield's a good resource for a novice that knows similar stuff like computer repair |
| 07:49.05 | Mr_Rabies | if their price is close to elsewhere, i'd recommend getting it from crutchfield because they have a guide and all the wiring you'll need |
| 08:05.14 | bluspacecow | lok Cairenn |
| 08:05.16 | bluspacecow | http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/funny-gifs-a-tiny-parliament-of-owlets.gif |
| 08:05.18 | bluspacecow | baby owls :D |
| 08:05.24 | Cairenn | :) |
| 08:17.11 | Maldivia | *yawn* |
| 08:18.02 | Maldivia | why must mornings be so cruel |
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| 08:28.06 | Sintacks | because nights are so kind |
| 08:30.11 | airtonix | Xuerian: omg ur addons still uze aceshigh2 |
| 08:30.21 | Xuerian | airtonix: I KN RITE |
| 08:30.26 | airtonix | i will kill you |
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| 08:40.40 | Fisker | hey airtonix |
| 08:41.08 | airtonix | Fisker: usoundmad |
| 08:42.00 | Fisker | nope.avi |
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| 08:51.07 | Fisker | hello there [Wobin] |
| 08:51.37 | mckenziemc1 | hello here Fisker |
| 08:51.43 | Fisker | no mckenziemc1 |
| 08:51.56 | mckenziemc1 | goodbye here then? |
| 08:52.08 | mckenziemc1 | or now? |
| 08:53.03 | karl_w_w | hello there [Fisker] |
| 08:53.10 | [Wobin] | hullo Mr Fisker |
| 09:00.42 | Fisker | just gonna stand here and be awesome |
| 09:00.45 | Fisker | while staring at jnwhiteh |
| 09:06.51 | Cairenn | night all |
| 09:08.44 | Fisker | and mckenziemc1 can't do anything to stop me |
| 09:09.47 | mckenziemc1 | i can't do anything to stop my disconnect in 5 minutes either :( |
| 09:09.58 | bluspacecow | secunia? |
| 09:10.04 | bluspacecow | woops |
| 09:10.07 | bluspacecow | wrong chan :( |
| 09:10.33 | Fisker | umad bluspacecow ? |
| 09:10.49 | Fisker | i knew it |
| 09:10.51 | bluspacecow | naw |
| 09:10.57 | bluspacecow | madspacecow |
| 09:11.02 | bluspacecow | you may catch my disease! |
| 09:12.17 | Fisker | i don't know what to do bluspacecow |
| 09:12.33 | bluspacecow | do w/e a spider pig does |
| 09:12.58 | mckenziemc1 | they eat bluspacecows |
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| 10:09.58 | cremetorte | Hi, are the developers of LIBBABBLE project here? |
| 10:12.01 | jnwhiteh | cremetorte: its not in all caps, and babble is an automatically generated library (for most things) |
| 10:12.04 | jnwhiteh | what do you want/need? |
| 10:12.53 | cremetorte | i need the 4.3 strings |
| 10:13.05 | jnwhiteh | well, someone has to contribute them |
| 10:13.31 | cremetorte | i would, but i cant :) |
| 10:13.43 | jnwhiteh | why not? |
| 10:13.46 | jnwhiteh | http://www.wowace.com/addons/libbabble-boss-3-0/localization/ for example |
| 10:14.06 | Fisker | awesome |
| 10:14.24 | cremetorte | i can do translations |
| 10:14.33 | cremetorte | but it would be new to me, if i could add phrases |
| 10:15.40 | jnwhiteh | you could easily look at the specific library you need and find out who is 'responsible' for it and then either leave a ticket on the addon, or contact them in IRC if they're here |
| 10:16.00 | cremetorte | i'll do that, thanks |
| 10:16.20 | jnwhiteh | I don't believe there's a single general contact, but you might ask in #wowace |
| 10:16.25 | jnwhiteh | in case its someone weird who isn't in here as well |
| 10:18.41 | Fisker | waves at jnwhiteh |
| 10:19.37 | starlon | waves at Fisker |
| 10:20.20 | Fisker | rocket launchers at starlon |
| 10:20.28 | starlon | damnit, Gnome ate my desktop icons |
| 10:22.11 | starlon | Fiser's evil. I wave and he takes it all personal and casts magic missiles at you. |
| 10:22.33 | starlon | dies. |
| 10:24.48 | starlon | :( |
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| 10:44.11 | karl_w_w | Fisker is a vengeful spirit? |
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| 10:46.45 | Fisker | no! |
| 10:48.01 | karl_w_w | oh ok |
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| 11:02.59 | karl_w_w | fisker where's my patch |
| 11:06.44 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowhead.com/item=61604 |
| 11:06.46 | bluspacecow | ^^ |
| 11:07.13 | Fisker | no karl_w_w |
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| 11:11.31 | Stanzilla | imad Fisker |
| 11:13.25 | Fisker | imad Stanzilla |
| 11:13.39 | Stanzilla | good to know that I'm not alone, mad |
| 11:15.51 | Fisker | does that make you happy? |
| 11:17.00 | Stanzilla | not really |
| 11:17.04 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 11:21.30 | karl_w_w | it makes me happy |
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| 11:35.28 | airtonix | hey jnwhiteh, noobs treat irc like a telephone . you pick it up when you need to talk and assume people will respond when you speak... when no on replies or you are given an ultimatium then you leave. |
| 11:35.37 | jnwhiteh | oh. |
| 11:36.06 | airtonix | it's alot like : a: HELP MY THING IS BROKEN a: oh never mind i fixed it, close this thread. b: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU how did you fix it? |
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| 11:43.34 | Fisker | umad airtonix |
| 11:43.38 | harl | wuff |
| 11:45.54 | Elkano | airtonix, similar to: http://xkcd.com/979/ |
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| 12:37.37 | Fisker | lol'd |
| 12:37.42 | Fisker | you can link to scam sites on battle.net |
| 12:39.02 | Fisker | did you lol bluspacecow ? |
| 12:39.09 | bluspacecow | no |
| 12:39.17 | bluspacecow | i dunno what to lolz to yet |
| 12:39.18 | Fisker | why not? |
| 12:40.08 | bluspacecow | i dont why you lolzing about |
| 12:40.49 | Fisker | you can link to scam sites on battle.net |
| 12:41.04 | bluspacecow | oh |
| 12:41.06 | bluspacecow | proofs ? |
| 12:41.23 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3010645160 |
| 12:42.39 | bluspacecow | LOLZ |
| 12:42.40 | Fisker | get it bluspacecow ? |
| 12:42.44 | Fisker | you lolz'd! |
| 12:42.51 | bluspacecow | soz i slow tonights |
| 12:49.54 | WoWUI | Valdarix|work |
| 12:50.42 | Fisker | Koolaidguy |
| 12:50.47 | Koolaidguy | amazing |
| 12:50.57 | bluspacecow | PurpleSpaceCow |
| 12:50.59 | Koolaidguy | you should try it out bluspacecow |
| 12:51.16 | bluspacecow | im doing it wrong D: |
| 12:51.40 | Fisker | yes |
| 12:52.07 | Valdarix|work | Fisker it's way too early to be laughing |
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| 12:55.11 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 12:55.17 | bluspacecow | hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 12:55.21 | Fisker | ping 8.8.8.8 |
| 12:57.56 | Fisker | fucking dicks |
| 12:58.10 | Fisker | Y U NO ROUTE PACKETS TO GEWGEL? |
| 12:58.14 | starlon | HOw do you obtain that address? |
| 12:58.29 | haste | its their public dns |
| 12:58.34 | Fisker | how don't you obtain it? |
| 12:58.36 | starlon | nods. |
| 12:58.48 | Fisker | they probably went all like |
| 12:58.49 | starlon | I'm just wondering how google ended up with 8.8.8.8 |
| 12:58.52 | alestane | A number of ISPs seem to take a "all ur DNS are belong to us" approach to routing. |
| 12:59.01 | haste | thei probably paid for it starlon :P |
| 12:59.01 | Fisker | "Hello IBM, Microsoft, or whoever got that low number, can i has 8.8.8.8?" |
| 12:59.11 | haste | and 8.8.4.4 |
| 12:59.14 | Fisker | i would look up who had it |
| 12:59.16 | Fisker | but oh wait |
| 12:59.18 | Fisker | can't dns |
| 12:59.18 | Fisker | bam |
| 12:59.23 | haste | lulz |
| 12:59.55 | Fisker | maybe i should setup my virtual server as a relay |
| 13:00.03 | Fisker | haste |
| 13:00.08 | Fisker | guide me through this perilous quest |
| 13:00.45 | starlon | g.g.g.g |
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| 13:04.06 | Fisker | it's back! |
| 13:04.12 | Fisker | refreshes every site and never lets go |
| 13:10.46 | alestane | http://xkcd.com/195/ |
| 13:34.37 | airtonix | q.q.q.q |
| 13:38.51 | haste | p.p.p.p |
| 13:40.16 | TMc51 | b.b.b.b |
| 13:40.38 | mitch0 | d.d.d.d |
| 13:40.59 | TMc51 | How do you do that backwards b? |
| 13:41.12 | mitch0 | :) |
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| 14:04.27 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 14:04.39 | bluspacecow | is the twitters coming up over capacity for anyone else ? |
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| 14:12.19 | TMc51 | its been over capacity since I woke up a few hours ago. |
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| 14:16.39 | alestane | Languages that elide semicolons have seriously spoiled me for the ones that don't. |
| 14:16.58 | Fisker | why do you use twitter bluspacecow ? |
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| 14:22.45 | bluspacecow | to see when the forums are back up |
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| 14:29.47 | Fisker | why not just see when the forums are back up? |
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| 15:06.17 | Vilkku | are there any significant changes in the 4.3 API? i.e. are they changing combat_log_event once again or something? |
| 15:07.23 | Ackis | divide by 0 |
| 15:07.36 | Ackis | Specifically, Blizzard's Lua fork no longer silently handles division by zero; it throws a Lua error now. |
| 15:13.57 | Antze | ouch |
| 15:14.07 | Antze | I suspect everything to go boom |
| 15:15.00 | karl_w_w | just dont ever divide, problem solved :P |
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| 15:16.45 | dardack_work | is 4.3 40300? |
| 15:17.16 | Maldivia | that would be a good guess |
| 15:17.30 | Maldivia | since that has been the way they number it since around patch 1.8 :P |
| 15:17.45 | jnwhiteh | someone is going through wowprogramming and randomly changing gender-specific pronouns (his) to gender-neutral ones (their). |
| 15:17.49 | dardack_work | yea just making sure |
| 15:17.52 | jnwhiteh | is that really worth someone's time? |
| 15:17.58 | dardack_work | um imo no |
| 15:18.02 | dardack_work | but to someone i guess so |
| 15:18.11 | jnwhiteh | I've only seen one change so far, but its the only change |
| 15:18.12 | jnwhiteh | *boggle* |
| 15:19.08 | Maldivia | speaking of gender "equality" - seen the spoof of the new Avergers poster ? |
| 15:20.37 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 15:21.09 | Maldivia | ok, new and new, the poster is from september I think - http://www.animationmagazine.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/avengers-promo-art-image.jpg -- and the "spoof" http://kevinbolk.deviantart.com/art/Avengers-270937785 |
| 15:21.32 | jnwhiteh | haha |
| 15:23.03 | Maldivia | but yeah, it is kind of odd that it's only Scarlett Johansson that is showing her's off :P |
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| 15:26.12 | Ackis | I don't mind |
| 15:27.17 | mikma | so... |
| 15:27.31 | mikma | who's the next one to visit me here in Finland? haste? industrial? |
| 15:28.10 | mikma | jnwhiteh + tom and wobin + his travelmate visited me already :D |
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| 15:28.35 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 15:29.03 | amro | jnwhiteh: verdict is in on monarch |
| 15:29.06 | amro | bitch is broken |
| 15:29.18 | mikma | jnwhiteh: i have a really strong feeling that we will be going into dublin at day after tomorrow :) |
| 15:29.22 | amro | although the ult sucks, it's not vector targetted and doesn't dispel everything |
| 15:29.27 | jnwhiteh | ask any dota player and they'll tell you that all s2 heroes are broken |
| 15:29.35 | jnwhiteh | the ult is not as broken as it could be, but its still good |
| 15:29.38 | amro | ra + monarch |
| 15:29.59 | jnwhiteh | why is ra + monarch better than any other combo? |
| 15:30.14 | amro | because it's the one with the most faceroll and RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWR |
| 15:30.34 | jnwhiteh | I mean, the stun/silence is clutch to set up any hero |
| 15:30.38 | amro | really though she's not that squishy at all, I go around the map solo ganking people |
| 15:30.52 | mikma | so... Korn's new album is out |
| 15:30.52 | jnwhiteh | yeah, she has the armour/damage to make it work |
| 15:31.00 | jnwhiteh | Cthuluphant/DS tho |
| 15:31.02 | bluspacecow | @mikma o rly ? |
| 15:31.04 | mikma | full of dubstep goodness |
| 15:31.07 | jnwhiteh | so I think I'm enjoying playing bubbles these days |
| 15:31.21 | amro | I keep thinking of going bubbles or hag |
| 15:31.25 | jnwhiteh | he straddles the line between support and semi-carry |
| 15:31.26 | amro | but mid scares me |
| 15:31.31 | jnwhiteh | and I'm MUCH better with bub than I am with hag |
| 15:31.32 | mikma | bluspacecow: yarly, http://www.rlslog.net/korn-the-path-of-totality-special-edition-2011-bribery/ |
| 15:31.37 | jnwhiteh | You can do quite well with bub side lane, |
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| 15:31.48 | bluspacecow | doesnt get to my itunes store till the 5th :( |
| 15:31.50 | jnwhiteh | oh, at your rating mid sucks |
| 15:31.58 | jnwhiteh | since people don't understand how mid is supposed to work |
| 15:32.00 | amro | bubbles is one of the best solos, and the only one to piss me off as monarch |
| 15:32.02 | amro | take cover > pollen |
| 15:32.09 | jnwhiteh | hahaha |
| 15:32.12 | mikma | bluspacecow: *cough* check the link for download *cough* |
| 15:32.14 | jnwhiteh | i made a rampage rage so many times |
| 15:32.20 | jnwhiteh | he charged me 7 times |
| 15:32.26 | jnwhiteh | before he finally got his ult to land |
| 15:32.29 | bluspacecow | nah ill wait … i like to preview the songs before downloading |
| 15:32.30 | jnwhiteh | the charge failed every single time |
| 15:32.35 | bluspacecow | also about to go snooze for a while |
| 15:32.38 | amro | nice |
| 15:32.41 | jnwhiteh | shell surf/take cover/port is butter. |
| 15:33.24 | amro | legio is my favorite now though |
| 15:33.29 | jnwhiteh | really? |
| 15:33.31 | jnwhiteh | I've never quite gotten into him |
| 15:33.37 | amro | he's so much fun |
| 15:33.43 | amro | you get to relax in the jungle early on |
| 15:33.50 | amro | and you're a ganking machine |
| 15:34.05 | jnwhiteh | I'm going to hit 1700 on my f2p account |
| 15:34.07 | jnwhiteh | then maybe call it quits |
| 15:34.12 | jnwhiteh | it'll prove to me that I'm at least that good |
| 15:34.18 | jnwhiteh | if I can do it twice |
| 15:34.43 | mikma | jnwhiteh: f'toupee |
| 15:34.52 | jnwhiteh | i am free to pee! |
| 15:35.50 | mikma | free toupee! http://www.hairsetup.com/Human_Hair_Toupee.jpg |
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| 15:36.44 | jnwhiteh | There are so many smurfs in HoN |
| 15:36.51 | jnwhiteh | I wish the MMR system was better to help account for that |
| 15:36.52 | jnwhiteh | but alas =/ |
| 15:37.26 | jnwhiteh | You can normally tell after the first 2-3 minutes if the lane you're facing is a smurf lane, and then just plan for the concede at 15 and try not to die, while taking advantage of any mistakes =) |
| 15:37.47 | amro | it would also help if s2 didn't make it so easy |
| 15:38.39 | jnwhiteh | it'll be interesting to see if dota2's ladder is able to fix it |
| 15:38.57 | Elkano | but what could they do against it? |
| 15:39.25 | amro | dota2 is mean. they asked me for system specs when I'm on my laptop, and there's no tickbox that says I promise I have a better PC |
| 15:39.27 | jnwhiteh | well someone who is 70% win with a 4.0 K:D ratio shouldn't be going against new players =) |
| 15:40.47 | jnwhiteh | TSR does a much better job of rating players |
| 15:41.08 | jnwhiteh | there have been very few times where someone who is < 4.0 has actually done well, and very few times where someone who is > 5.0 has done poorly =) |
| 15:41.34 | amro | TSR? as in D&D? |
| 15:41.49 | jnwhiteh | True Skill Rating |
| 15:41.56 | jnwhiteh | its a mod that takes much more than MMR into account |
| 15:42.24 | Maldivia | true skill rating.. sounds iffy |
| 15:42.31 | amro | does it take smacktalk into account? |
| 15:42.34 | jnwhiteh | no =) |
| 15:42.41 | jnwhiteh | if smoeone G drops, it should make their TSR plummet :P |
| 15:42.51 | amro | oh man, yesterday I was up against the ragiest bastard ever |
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| 15:43.09 | jnwhiteh | http://honstats.org/cladhaire http://honstats.org/jnwhiteh |
| 15:43.11 | amro | nobody smacktalked him either, he just started raging after getting killed |
| 15:43.22 | amro | and our rampage made it his life's goal to kill him every ult cooldown |
| 15:43.24 | amro | it was hilarious |
| 15:43.26 | jnwhiteh | I'm sadly not doing much better on my f2p account |
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| 15:44.27 | jnwhiteh | I clealy should play aluna more. 5 games, 80% win rate =) |
| 15:44.34 | amro | the pattern is funny. emerald warden +mmr, dsham -mmr |
| 15:44.50 | amro | aluna is nice for games that end fast |
| 15:44.53 | jnwhiteh | yeah, tell me about it |
| 15:45.04 | amro | but lategame she's worse than pyro |
| 15:45.06 | jnwhiteh | apparently I've earned 53 net rating on slither, which surprises me, but I do enjoy him |
| 15:45.19 | amro | slither is really really good and underplayed imo |
| 15:46.03 | jnwhiteh | oh wow |
| 15:46.06 | jnwhiteh | if I drop casual/pub games out |
| 15:46.14 | jnwhiteh | I have +99 rating with EW |
| 15:46.29 | jnwhiteh | and I should obviously never play electrician again |
| 15:47.08 | jnwhiteh | Cide apparently should just leave Bombadier on the shelf :P |
| 15:47.39 | amro | I can't play bombardier from here |
| 15:47.51 | amro | too much delay, sticky bomb and ult completely unusable |
| 15:47.56 | jnwhiteh | ah =/ |
| 15:48.25 | jnwhiteh | you should not play DSham. |
| 15:48.42 | amro | unbreakable looks like it KILLS my target |
| 15:48.48 | jnwhiteh | hah |
| 15:49.04 | amro | hon really needs better laghiding |
| 15:49.04 | jnwhiteh | You're +42 with Monarch :p |
| 15:49.14 | amro | that's all yesterday too |
| 15:49.43 | jnwhiteh | hrm.. these don't go back very far |
| 15:49.59 | jnwhiteh | 2010-05 on jnwhiteh and 2011-08 on cladhaire |
| 15:51.34 | jnwhiteh | I am incapable of farming more than like 375 gpm =( |
| 15:52.14 | amro | I don't come close to that |
| 15:52.25 | jnwhiteh | well that's on the absolute high side |
| 15:52.30 | jnwhiteh | I'm normally closer to 250-275 |
| 15:53.48 | amro | I don't even check, but when I do I'm usually last or second last on the team |
| 15:54.04 | amro | the closest I come to carrying is with legio |
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| 16:03.07 | Ackis | http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/funny-facebook-fails-hes-no-waldo.png |
| 16:07.48 | jnwhiteh | amro: http://honstats.org/MSISLAYER#tab:matches is ridiculous. |
| 16:10.46 | amro | jnwhiteh: not a single support :P |
| 16:11.03 | jnwhiteh | he's on a massive undefeated streak =) |
| 16:11.04 | amro | cept polly |
| 16:11.12 | jnwhiteh | nah polly is a hard carry, obvi =) |
| 16:11.14 | Dagmar | Rather likely either the class is OP or that's the toon he finds a way to secretly bail on matches he doesn't like with |
| 16:11.41 | jnwhiteh | you can't bail matches |
| 16:11.46 | jnwhiteh | they still count against you |
| 16:12.24 | amro | nah he's good, those are all heroes that can singlehandedly win games if played right |
| 16:12.34 | jnwhiteh | aye |
| 16:12.47 | amro | although look at that rampage game, 0/0/0 |
| 16:12.49 | amro | now that's pro |
| 16:14.32 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 16:14.39 | jnwhiteh | he's got a rough lineup this next game |
| 16:14.46 | jnwhiteh | http://www.twitch.tv/cptstronk |
| 16:15.08 | amro | big prays? |
| 16:15.15 | amro | is that like blacksmith plays or something? |
| 16:16.28 | amro | stream is laggy :( |
| 16:19.44 | jnwhiteh | not for me |
| 16:20.14 | amro | you're not on 20th century internet access |
| 16:31.50 | AcidWeb | Sooo.. anybody hear about any major 4.3 api changes? |
| 16:32.07 | AcidWeb | 4.3 is not yet out in us zone? |
| 16:32.16 | karl_w_w | well i wanted to like sonic generations but i just cant |
| 16:32.25 | durcyn | you're not autistic enough, karl_w_w |
| 16:32.36 | karl_w_w | its too slow |
| 16:32.38 | karl_w_w | and big |
| 16:32.50 | karl_w_w | and he wont stay rolling he keeps getting up and running |
| 16:32.56 | karl_w_w | what kinda crap is that |
| 16:38.26 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/browse/19878/basic_day61.jpg |
| 16:38.35 | kd3 | blah. the weather forecast keeps mentioning the s-word |
| 16:38.43 | kd3 | I'm amazed atlanta hasn't run out of milk and bread yet |
| 16:39.13 | tem | "Like most I don't like to play retail because" lol private server kids are hilarious |
| 16:39.14 | TMc51 | Please, whatever you do, don't even mention that s-word. D: |
| 16:39.59 | amro | kd3: ...it's raining shit? |
| 16:40.24 | kd3 | considering what kind of panic atlanta has... sure seems like it |
| 16:40.38 | TMc51 | Honestly, I'd prefer it rain shit than that other s word. |
| 16:40.42 | Valdarix|work | Man last year that S-word shut us in North Metro Atlanta down for week. First year in the are and I experience a shutdown |
| 16:40.52 | kd3 | you'd think after shutting down the city for a week back in january we wouldn't panic like we /ALWAYS/ do |
| 16:40.59 | kd3 | yet, here we are again |
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| 16:42.05 | kd3 | anyway, time to drive to school... |
| 16:42.38 | Arrowmaster | http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=77 |
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| 16:48.07 | Lunessa | like, I don't know, man. Station or something. |
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| 16:50.44 | TMc51 | Lunessa: Have you heard about the plans for a 3rd Bill & Ted movie? |
| 16:50.57 | durcyn | any bill and ted movie without george carlin isn't a bill and ted movie |
| 16:51.03 | Lunessa | Son of Bill & Ted? |
| 16:51.04 | TMc51 | true dat |
| 16:54.17 | Lunessa | Those movies hold up amazingly well too. |
| 16:54.40 | TMc51 | they're awesome, and will forever be awesome. |
| 16:57.02 | foxlit | Hm, I wonder if people heal with Unleash Elements |
| 16:57.47 | Lunessa | foxlit: I try, but the mechanism is… not intuitive. |
| 16:59.02 | Jamash | I heal with smite |
| 16:59.22 | nicoli_s | bill and ted isnt the same without george carlin |
| 16:59.32 | Jamash | Not Atonement, just smite |
| 17:00.12 | Jamash | if my target isn't regaining health then it clearly wasn't holy enough |
| 17:00.48 | Lunessa | Back in classic, shortly after the game launched I ran into my first Balance-spec'ed druid in Moonkin form. I asked him if druids could still heal in that form and he answered "Only if you consider Moonfire a heal!" |
| 17:01.39 | durcyn | it's been a while, but I thought moonkin form wasn't in original retail? |
| 17:01.47 | Jamash | http://www.nuklearpower.com/2009/06/25/episode-1144-pyrrhic-for-some/ last two panels |
| 17:03.16 | Lunessa | durcyn: It was in sometime in the very early era, but at 7 years ago, exact timings get all muddled up. |
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| 17:03.47 | Lunessa | I was leveling the original Lunessa - so it was late enough that I was on my third toon towards 60. |
| 17:03.56 | amro | it took approximately two years to level a druid at retail |
| 17:04.16 | amro | by then they'd added boomkin |
| 17:05.44 | nevcairiel | thats why you grouped up with someone for leveling! |
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| 17:06.40 | Lunessa | I know all about painful leveling. I was a demonology spec warlock on a PVP server on launch day. |
| 17:06.56 | durcyn | "i made bad choices" |
| 17:06.59 | Lunessa | Then I was a fire mage. Then a holy priest. |
| 17:07.11 | Lunessa | This game was ALL about bad choices in the beginning. |
| 17:07.23 | amro | you have to be good to make choices that bad |
| 17:07.42 | Lunessa | I might as well have tapped a sign to my ass that said "please wipe up the santorum when you're through with my corpse." |
| 17:08.14 | amro | there was a warlock multiboxer on my launch realm |
| 17:08.17 | amro | tab dot tab dot tab dot |
| 17:08.23 | amro | I don't think anyone ever killed his party |
| 17:08.29 | nevcairiel | there was multiboxing at launch? |
| 17:08.36 | amro | yes |
| 17:08.37 | Lunessa | Yeah, there was. |
| 17:08.47 | amro | my realm was sort of a hotbed for it for some raeson |
| 17:08.52 | Lunessa | Shaman multi boxers gave rise to mountains of QQ on Illidan. |
| 17:09.13 | amro | first one was a pom pyro multiboxer |
| 17:09.15 | TMc51 | as if Illidown ever needed more of a reason to QQ. |
| 17:09.16 | durcyn | I ran into a group of 5 elemental shaman boxers once, that was beyond miserable |
| 17:09.16 | amro | winning AV on his own |
| 17:09.36 | amro | by winning, obviously I mean killing people beacuse you couldn't actually finish AV back then |
| 17:09.43 | Lunessa | I can only imagine the pain of 5x Chain Lightning. |
| 17:09.48 | nevcairiel | AV back then was kinda awesome |
| 17:09.54 | Jamash | hey now, we finished AVs |
| 17:10.01 | durcyn | amro: old school AV owned, so much reputation farming |
| 17:10.01 | Jamash | it just took 12 hours |
| 17:10.10 | amro | 12 hours is fast |
| 17:10.13 | Lunessa | I had people leave raids 'cause the queue popped and they'ed been waiting for 3 days. |
| 17:10.13 | nevcairiel | the thing was already going on for hours, and you could go to sleep for 6 hours, and still rejoin the fight |
| 17:10.28 | Jamash | wake up, log in, play av, go to school, come back, play the same av, eat dinner, get back to av just in time to lose |
| 17:10.43 | amro | it was pretty epic |
| 17:11.01 | amro | then you had the fights at the bg entrances |
| 17:11.15 | amro | nuke people from the roof |
| 17:11.30 | durcyn | glitching on top of the horde AB entrance was immensely satisfying |
| 17:11.33 | amro | then accept bg invite |
| 17:11.37 | Jamash | I miss lokholar |
| 17:12.20 | Lunessa | You know what I don't miss? People camping on top of walls and sniping you as you landed at taxi points. |
| 17:12.31 | Jamash | yeah me neither |
| 17:13.09 | amro | Southshore's taxi point was rogue ambush heaven |
| 17:13.25 | Lunessa | I was playing the game on this box that could barely handle wow. I lagged out every time the enemy faction models had to load for the first time. Which meant flying into Gadgetzan was a corpse run. |
| 17:13.43 | Lunessa | Or Booty Bay. |
| 17:13.48 | Lunessa | Or Southshore. |
| 17:13.58 | Jamash | pfft, alliance |
| 17:14.14 | Lunessa | I got so annoyed I almost swore off the game entirely. |
| 17:14.18 | nevcairiel | I never played on a PvP server |
| 17:14.25 | nevcairiel | and that was good that way |
| 17:14.36 | amro | pvp servers were good for a period of time between honor patch and bg patch |
| 17:14.42 | amro | which I think was 1.3-1.4? |
| 17:14.50 | nevcairiel | a bit later i think |
| 17:14.51 | Lunessa | It's probably not so bad now, but at retail launch there wasn't shit to do at 60 but go fuck up new players. |
| 17:14.55 | Jamash | aren't you guys the alliance of lordaeron? |
| 17:15.09 | amro | it was actually still good for a while longer |
| 17:15.13 | amro | but eventually they ruined it |
| 17:15.14 | Jamash | we kinda have lordaeron now |
| 17:15.28 | amro | now pvp servers are a place with a harder time levelling, and that's it |
| 17:15.32 | Jamash | you need to get a new name |
| 17:15.45 | Lunessa | There was a 60 troll rogue that would camp the lakeshire inn and kill people who were trying to turn in quests or camp. |
| 17:16.19 | amro | we had an infamous druid+rogue gank team that did nothing but camp lowbies |
| 17:16.25 | Jamash | maybe "The Alliance of King Chin" |
| 17:16.31 | amro | one day, the rogue tried to kill me as I was farming in WPL |
| 17:16.38 | Lunessa | And doing the succubus quest or warlock mount on on a PVP server meant dying repeatedly. |
| 17:16.47 | amro | let's just say he should have stuck to lowbies |
| 17:16.50 | Jamash | nesingwary's expedition was the go-to ganking spot on Kil'jaeden |
| 17:16.57 | Lunessa | Illidan too. |
| 17:17.12 | Jamash | I have mixed feelings about pvp realms |
| 17:17.16 | Lunessa | So much so that I avoided that area until I was almost too high for the quests. |
| 17:17.32 | karl_w_w | anyone know where i can find blizzard's punishment pyramid? |
| 17:17.42 | Lunessa | At 58 I quit the server and played my mage on a PVE server. |
| 17:17.49 | Jamash | on the one hand I got incredibly frustrated getting ganked, but massive world pvp battles where entire guilds got pulled in were pretty cool |
| 17:17.50 | amro | class balance was horrible pack then too |
| 17:18.02 | amro | s/pack/back/ |
| 17:18.09 | TMc51 | Karl_w_w: http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=20221 |
| 17:18.14 | Jamash | class balance is always horrible |
| 17:18.25 | Lunessa | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/3992150/43_Customer_Support_Policy_Spotlight-11_29_2011#blog |
| 17:18.26 | mikma | what balance |
| 17:18.37 | Jamash | whatever balance problems there are right now are defined as being the worst they've ever been, axiomatically |
| 17:18.44 | karl_w_w | thanks TMc51 |
| 17:18.50 | amro | yeah but now blizzard is giving everyone survival/escape mechs |
| 17:19.20 | Jamash | I like being able to tank raid bosses for 8 seconds on my hunter |
| 17:19.42 | mikma | void storage... |
| 17:19.44 | Jamash | well, 5-8 depending on boss speed |
| 17:19.47 | mikma | that's..... utter bullshit |
| 17:20.05 | amro | but back then you had classes that just didn't stand a chance of even getting to safety |
| 17:20.10 | Jamash | mikma: ? |
| 17:20.13 | amro | and classes you just couldn't kill (hi paladin) |
| 17:20.28 | mikma | jamash: http://us.media2.battle.net/cms/gallery/VH4RWSUHKMH31313796925016.jpg |
| 17:20.44 | amro | so while druids sucked for leveling, they were really good on pvp servers |
| 17:20.46 | Jamash | I remember the video of the fully pre-raid geared out warrior losing a duel to a paladin with no weapon equipped |
| 17:20.49 | mikma | "here we have a way of ripping the gold out of your characters" |
| 17:20.56 | Jamash | oh that's an old SS |
| 17:21.08 | amro | I remember coming across a duel in EPL once, rogue versus paladin |
| 17:21.09 | Jamash | the fee is 25g/item now, not 100g |
| 17:21.14 | amro | I watched for 10 minutes before getting bored and leaving |
| 17:21.22 | Jamash | and only 25g for deposit, withdraw is free |
| 17:22.10 | Jamash | my guild did a private tournament in the dire maul arena for fun and prizes a while back during wrath |
| 17:22.32 | Jamash | the resto shaman vs resto druid fight was... uh... yeah |
| 17:22.53 | amro | wrath is pretty recent |
| 17:22.57 | amro | but yeah |
| 17:23.12 | Lunessa | My guild leader on Illidan was a Paladin. He dueled people naked and they still took forever to kill him. |
| 17:23.17 | amro | http://static.mninja.org/images/22m.jpg resto vs resto |
| 17:23.39 | Jamash | that's a lot of healing |
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| 17:24.56 | amro | if you'll notice, we actually killed the warrior |
| 17:25.03 | amro | because that druid was impossible |
| 17:25.26 | Jamash | yeah wait it says 1 KB |
| 17:25.44 | Jamash | did the druid just give up? |
| 17:25.48 | amro | yeah |
| 17:25.50 | amro | what was he going to do? |
| 17:26.07 | amro | look at his damage done |
| 17:26.10 | Jamash | hope you two got bored and or disconnected? |
| 17:26.36 | amro | no the druid left as soon as the warrior died |
| 17:26.56 | Jamash | back in broodwar days on bnet when everyone was on dialup that was a valid strategy |
| 17:27.36 | Jamash | I remember the blood-curdling screams from my sister when she got disconnected during a ladder match |
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| 17:31.15 | Jamash | man wow 4.3 and then in two days terraria 1.1 |
| 17:31.49 | Jamash | I need to get a second monitor for my laptop so I can play both at once |
| 17:32.39 | pompy | http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/389820_10150988763285599_841100598_22063713_1265286811_n.jpg |
| 17:32.41 | amro | you don't need to see the wow screen |
| 17:33.17 | karl_w_w | yum |
| 17:33.21 | karl_w_w | very testy |
| 17:33.27 | Jamash | these aren't the druids I'm looking for? |
| 17:33.53 | karl_w_w | I'm not the dryad you're looking for |
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| 17:36.21 | Jamash | oh dude tyrael's charger is in 4.3 |
| 17:36.47 | Lunessa | I should have it when I login. :) |
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| 17:36.54 | Jamash | me too |
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| 17:39.38 | pompy | logs in and commits to the annual pass |
| 17:39.42 | pompy | totally forgot |
| 17:39.52 | Jamash | hehe |
| 17:40.18 | karl_w_w | why do i get emails about facebook notifications that don't exist any more :( |
| 17:40.43 | Jamash | because they're phishing emails? |
| 17:40.52 | karl_w_w | nuh uh |
| 17:41.30 | Jamash | you're a nuh uh |
| 17:41.50 | pompy | http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/718703/skyrim-getting-a-free-interactive-map-app-for-ios-dragon-shout |
| 17:41.53 | Stanzilla | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLqxJlGZXXA < way better than the original trailer |
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| 17:42.49 | Parnic_ | did the NaN/div-by-zero change from early in 4.3 stick around or did Blizz change that? |
| 17:42.51 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 17:42.58 | Stanzilla | hey Fisker |
| 17:47.15 | jnwhiteh | Parnic_: I believe it won't error on live, but I expect that code should change to not rely on that behaviour either way. |
| 17:47.20 | jnwhiteh | Stanzilla: indeed |
| 17:47.57 | Parnic_ | jnwhiteh: thanks. my addon had the error popping up in a library, so i'll just wait for the lib maintainer to fix it :) |
| 17:50.40 | Lunessa | For those of use switching back and forth between WoW and D3 - "Added a feature to interact with NPCs, game objects (mailbox, mining nodes, etc.), and corpses on left-click as well as right-click. There is now an option under Interface:Controls to turn this feature off." |
| 17:50.44 | Lunessa | Thank you! |
| 17:51.05 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 17:51.06 | Fisker | hey Parnic_ |
| 17:51.19 | Fisker | nah Lunessa |
| 17:51.54 | Fisker | "for those of us waiting 24 hours for having a ticket answered about 20 retards standing on the quest npc with a mammoth mount" you mean |
| 17:51.57 | Ackis | hey Fisker |
| 17:52.07 | Fisker | _nohey Ackis |
| 17:52.10 | Ackis | :( |
| 17:52.15 | Fisker | :) |
| 17:52.22 | Ackis | meanie |
| 17:52.37 | Ackis | did deathwing get killed on the ptr? I wasn't paying attention |
| 17:52.50 | pompy | yeah |
| 17:52.59 | durcyn | blizzard still hasn't added collision detection for non-mobile NPCs? |
| 17:53.32 | Fisker | they haven't even added it for stationary npcs |
| 17:53.47 | Fisker | What they've done is that they've put like an invisible wall around a FEW npcs |
| 17:53.56 | Lunessa | dolby: ping |
| 17:54.08 | karl_w_w | why would they want collision? |
| 17:54.28 | durcyn | karl_w_w: 11:51:54 < Fisker> "for those of us waiting 24 hours for having a ticket answered about 20 retards standing on the quest npc with a mammoth mount" you mean |
| 17:54.36 | durcyn | anyway Fisker learn2nameplate |
| 17:54.56 | karl_w_w | wow |
| 17:54.59 | Fisker | i report the fuckers out of spite durcyn |
| 17:55.02 | karl_w_w | there are so many ways around that |
| 17:55.11 | Fisker | died one too many times from idiots like that |
| 17:55.19 | karl_w_w | if you cant use the npc in that situation you deserve to wait :P |
| 17:55.23 | Fisker | also won't be binding my "Interact with NPC" keybinding out of principle |
| 17:55.33 | Fisker | But i do use the nameplates |
| 17:55.51 | durcyn | karl_w_w: being able to magically walk through any and every single NPC in the game really is daft anyway, why shouldn't it be changed |
| 17:58.21 | foxlit | oh no, I hit level 84 |
| 17:58.40 | foxlit | and suddenly the instances are much more difficult |
| 17:58.50 | karl_w_w | because it is a game durcyn :P |
| 17:59.06 | durcyn | karl_w_w: my immersion, sir. |
| 17:59.17 | karl_w_w | i want to walk where I'm going in a straight line, not around everything :P |
| 18:00.18 | karl_w_w | and I'm sure they spend enough time making sure people can't get stuck in the terrain, they don't want to have to test it with npcs blocking the way as well |
| 18:03.28 | foxlit | this levelling mana cost progression is counter-intuitive :( |
| 18:03.48 | pompy | "In order to opt in for our beta tests, you must create a beta profile containing your system specifications. " .. does that mean i wont get a beta invite to D3 if i didnt set one up? lol |
| 18:06.20 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:15.40 | Cairenn | hugs Lopeppeppy |
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| 18:22.25 | Lopeppeppy | Oh hi. |
| 18:22.30 | Jamash | Hel lo pep pep py |
| 18:22.43 | Lopeppeppy | Today, in art class, I drew three lines in 3 hours. Jamash, I am an art goddess now! |
| 18:22.51 | Sintacks | oh god. so many updates |
| 18:22.55 | Sintacks | i hate patch day |
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| 18:23.19 | Jamash | were you doing nude drawings of a popsicle stick? |
| 18:24.25 | Jamash | also grats on earning your, uh, wings? |
| 18:24.56 | Lopeppeppy | A ladder. Ish. Sorta. |
| 18:27.20 | Sintacks | my brother's WoW only has 9 updates ... |
| 18:27.24 | Sintacks | mine had 38 |
| 18:27.27 | Sintacks | addons that is |
| 18:27.49 | Sintacks | 9 of those are bigwigs modules though heh |
| 18:32.36 | nebula169 | is there a list of 4.3 api changes somewhere? don't see anything fancied up on wowpedia |
| 18:36.12 | amro | nebula169: you should subscribe to kd3's api diffs |
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| 18:46.31 | pompy | http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=198005&p=2975996 she missed the point completely :x |
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| 18:54.54 | karl_w_w | http://www.lamebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/BF1.jpg how unfortunate |
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| 18:57.42 | kd3|netbook | wonders if his desktop has finally finished patching the client yet |
| 18:59.40 | Lopeppeppy | Nah. Not until dinner time. |
| 18:59.51 | cogwheel | realms are coming up |
| 19:00.25 | karl_w_w | what cog said |
| 19:00.56 | kd3|netbook | also, grr. someone keeps sending email to me addressed to someone else. FLastName@gmail vs F.LastName@gmail |
| 19:01.01 | karl_w_w | and i forgot load out of date addons *again* |
| 19:01.20 | Arrowmaster | kd3|netbook: those are the same address on gmail |
| 19:01.21 | nevcairiel | i dont think i once remembered clicking that box |
| 19:01.33 | kd3|netbook | yup |
| 19:01.34 | Elkano | yeah, gmail doesn't care about dots |
| 19:01.36 | cogwheel | kd3|netbook: same here. they've been signing up for all kinds of stupid shit |
| 19:03.14 | Dagmar | Yay for email-controlled password-recovery mechanisms |
| 19:03.15 | amro | cogwheel: are you sure there isn't a cogwheel' ? |
| 19:04.47 | karl_w_w | interesting |
| 19:05.03 | karl_w_w | one of my out of date addons is causing me to freeze early in the loading screen |
| 19:05.15 | Elkano | wasn't me I hope |
| 19:05.29 | karl_w_w | dont think i use any of your fine addons Elkano :P |
| 19:05.34 | amro | burn |
| 19:05.52 | Elkano | and from the crappy rest of my stuff? ;) |
| 19:06.14 | kd3|netbook | also, if anyone else wants on my interface diffs email list, /msg me an email address and I'll send the 4.2->4.3 UI diff your way as soon as I ge thome |
| 19:06.22 | Lunessa | Does any of your stuff use /0 to handle NaN values? |
| 19:06.28 | karl_w_w | it was cromulent |
| 19:07.56 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2011/11/rx-booze-flask-finally-the-medicine-for.php |
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| 19:12.25 | kd3|netbook | in other news (still getting caught up)... remote-owning of HP printers by setting them on fire across the net? |
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| 19:13.33 | Fisker | i don't get why anyone is surprised |
| 19:13.57 | karl_w_w | any1 wanna real id and then raid finder with me? :P |
| 19:14.14 | Fisker | i actually got nudes on my email kd3|netbook |
| 19:14.21 | Fisker | not sure if it was just spam or what |
| 19:14.24 | kd3|netbook | lol |
| 19:14.25 | mikma | cairenn: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/ultimatespoilers20100816154541.jpg |
| 19:14.26 | Fisker | but looked quite amateur |
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| 19:14.36 | Cairenn | mikma: heh |
| 19:15.24 | Elkano | wow, cool, HumbleBundle added source code for Darwinia/Multiwinia, Uplink and Defcon :) |
| 19:15.43 | Fisker | WAT |
| 19:16.24 | Fisker | lies? |
| 19:17.00 | Fisker | ah |
| 19:17.02 | Fisker | at the bottom |
| 19:17.11 | Fisker | that is fucking great news |
| 19:17.19 | Fisker | maybe someone can polish some more on uplink |
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| 19:20.23 | karl_w_w | o wow |
| 19:20.35 | karl_w_w | grand marshal's stave can't be used for transmog |
| 19:20.39 | karl_w_w | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.15 | kd3|netbook | >.< |
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| 19:23.40 | Elkano | you most likely aren't able to transmog to the gray sets, either, are you? |
| 19:24.17 | karl_w_w | dont know |
| 19:24.28 | karl_w_w | you can transmog to frostscythe of elune though |
| 19:24.52 | karl_w_w | which goes very nicely on a frost mage in t6 |
| 19:25.01 | Lunessa | You know, I love that patch days don't just take out addon sites anymore. :) |
| 19:25.30 | cogwheel | joy... Kirin Tor isn't even on the realm list |
| 19:26.09 | Torhal|work | Lunessa: Beefier hardware and bandwidth FTW. |
| 19:26.25 | Lunessa | Torhal|work: And no more scraping by bad updaters. |
| 19:26.41 | Torhal|work | Definitely. |
| 19:27.08 | Fisker | i scrape |
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| 19:27.53 | Lunessa | 4.3 is a good time for me to decide what I can trim out of my mod list again. |
| 19:28.22 | TMc51 | same here |
| 19:28.37 | Torhal|work | FuBar. Cartographer. |
| 19:28.45 | Torhal|work | <.< |
| 19:28.54 | TMc51 | probably going to have to find a new one, or work on redoing my personal one from the ground up. =\ |
| 19:31.49 | karl_w_w | i just had the coolest idea |
| 19:32.10 | karl_w_w | imagine if SW gets destroyed in mop and we have to move to stromgarde |
| 19:32.16 | cogwheel | GJ calling maintenance over when an entire battlegroup is still down, blizz... |
| 19:32.24 | cogwheel | Mission Accomplished TM |
| 19:32.57 | karl_w_w | or gilneas |
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| 19:33.40 | TMc51 | Without KT being up, I'd normally just get on my Drood on Arthas, but with my UI as hosed as it is, PVPing would be a total nightmare. >.< |
| 19:35.30 | Mr_Rabies | now that the realms have been up 5 minutes— HAY GUISE is dat addin u make abandoned where is the 4.3????¿¡ |
| 19:37.49 | karl_w_w | my ui is fine |
| 19:37.56 | karl_w_w | other than mapster |
| 19:38.11 | pompy | karl_w_w: he just updated it |
| 19:38.12 | Elkano | Mr_Rabies, it's not like PTR was up for weeks... |
| 19:38.12 | Torhal|work | karl_w_w: Mapster was just updated. |
| 19:38.16 | karl_w_w | ah |
| 19:38.19 | pompy | i win Torhal|work |
| 19:38.23 | Elkano | ...also I'll start coding my updates tomorrow... ;) |
| 19:38.24 | Torhal|work | installs OS/2 Warp on pompy. |
| 19:38.35 | pompy | NOA Elkano |
| 19:38.36 | pompy | ;p |
| 19:38.40 | Torhal|work | examines Elkano's claims and refutes them. |
| 19:38.43 | Lunessa | Torhal|work: That's just evil. |
| 19:38.47 | Elkano | reformats Torhal|work for BeOS |
| 19:38.48 | Torhal|work | Lunessa: I know! |
| 19:38.52 | Torhal|work | Elkano: LIES! |
| 19:39.10 | Elkano | true lies though ;) |
| 19:39.26 | karl_w_w | for limit must be a number apparently |
| 19:39.56 | Mr_Rabies | enjoy your stressful day being tech support for people who probably dont deserve use of their arms, you guys own |
| 19:41.28 | Elkano | I wonder if I'll do some "TOC update for 4.3 so people just sTFU"... |
| 19:41.32 | karl_w_w | hm where was MAX_BATTLEFIELD_QUEUES |
| 19:41.40 | cogwheel | i'm confused... isn't s11 supposed to start today? |
| 19:41.54 | cogwheel | the conquest quartermaster has all the s10 gear for honor and nothing for CP |
| 19:42.05 | Elkano | no, cog, S10 was only to end iirc |
| 19:42.14 | cogwheel | aaaaaaahhh |
| 19:44.37 | TMc51 | hold off on the S10 gear, anyways |
| 19:45.01 | TMc51 | I'd bet they'll do what they did when S10 started and give an upgraded version of S9 for honor. |
| 19:45.20 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://pastebin.com || 4.3.x ToC: 40300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Happy Birthday Cogwheel |
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| 19:45.34 | Arrowmaster | was waiting for that |
| 19:46.06 | Elkano | cog had birthday? well, some late congratulations then ^^' |
| 19:46.50 | Elkano | also, if tekkub shows up, poke him to update his github repo ;) |
| 19:46.50 | nevcairiel | probably weeks ago |
| 19:46.52 | cogwheel | the last of my 20s |
| 19:47.02 | karl_w_w | why is GetMaxBattlefieldID() 0 it's meant to be 2 |
| 19:47.04 | karl_w_w | that's mean |
| 19:47.19 | Elkano | so cog, you're almost as old as I am ^^ |
| 19:48.06 | cogwheel | feels so asymptotic |
| 19:48.35 | Elkano | wrong feeling, you should feel parallel ;) |
| 19:49.06 | cogwheel | it's just my sense of proportion, you absolutist! |
| 19:49.13 | Elkano | unless you're a woman, than feeling asymptotic towards 30 is fine ;) |
| 19:49.30 | cogwheel | asymptotic towards your age, not 30 ;) |
| 19:50.06 | Elkano | ok, seeing the gap in relation to the total you're right |
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| 19:57.18 | Ackis | a guy signed my card for my wedding: "Achievement Unlocked: Until Death Do Us Part" |
| 19:57.36 | Cairenn | (NSFW) They fucked it up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdn3O6aaMNc |
| 19:58.45 | Elkano | ackis, you got married? my condolences... |
| 19:59.18 | Ackis | LOL |
| 19:59.41 | Elkano | for her, not you ;) |
| 19:59.47 | Ackis | :( |
| 19:59.52 | Torhal|work | I concur. |
| 20:00.54 | Ackis | http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/382887_10150418768821686_512851685_8685399_1227581758_n.jpg |
| 20:02.12 | Elkano | damn, hopped for a pic of the couple |
| 20:02.15 | nicoli_s | lol thats pretty nerdy |
| 20:02.19 | amro | Ackis: shouldn't you unlock that when you die? |
| 20:02.26 | Ackis | :P |
| 20:02.51 | Elkano | "till death us part II - been there, done that" |
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| 20:07.48 | Ackis | http://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/mtpgx/guy_i_work_with_plays_wow_heres_how_he_signed_the/ |
| 20:07.53 | Ackis | I NEED KARMA |
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| 20:08.46 | nicoli_s | so Ackis how does it feel to be one of us married folk |
| 20:09.39 | Ackis | not a damn thing changed tbh |
| 20:09.57 | nicoli_s | heh |
| 20:10.03 | nicoli_s | bout the same here |
| 20:10.10 | nicoli_s | though i havent had my official wedding yet |
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| 20:13.48 | Ackis | sighs. |
| 20:13.55 | Ackis | I didn't get the red rifle fos |
| 20:14.25 | Lopeppeppy | If something changes, you did the marriage wrong. :) |
| 20:19.48 | Fisker | reddit pls |
| 20:28.30 | Elkano | I think there is one thing that does change: you feel a bit more relaxed that it's now after the wedding and not before |
| 20:33.42 | Ackis | only thing that really changed is her last name |
| 20:33.57 | Lunessa | Mawwagie. Mawwiagie iw what brings us togewwer today. |
| 20:37.12 | Arrowmaster | http://i.imgur.com/oLtRu.jpg |
| 20:40.02 | Lunessa | … HOVERDOG! |
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| 20:42.36 | Lopeppeppy | Dogs don't hoover. If they did, I'd get one so my carpets would be cleaner. |
| 20:44.17 | karl_w_w | new dungeons are so cool |
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| 21:22.48 | Stanzilla | Adys_: http://vimeo.com/32861741 |
| 21:22.56 | Stanzilla | and Fisker ofc |
| 21:31.48 | nicoli_s | wow so i just saw an ad for a company that makes police related gear like shirts and bags and knives |
| 21:31.58 | nicoli_s | and they have a new line of stuff: the 9.11 collection |
| 21:32.29 | Thunder_Child | is it 5.11? |
| 21:33.02 | Lunessa | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/11/us-judge-orders-hundreds-of-sites-de-indexed-from-google-twitter-bing-facebook.ars |
| 21:33.05 | nicoli_s | yah |
| 21:33.20 | Thunder_Child | actually makes sense |
| 21:33.34 | Thunder_Child | it's both 911, 9/11 and 9.11 |
| 21:33.35 | nicoli_s | just seems kinda insensitive to me |
| 21:33.57 | Thunder_Child | their target is hardcore americans |
| 21:34.13 | Cairenn | pokes nevcairiel |
| 21:34.27 | Cairenn | Update on WoWI too, pretty please :) |
| 21:35.41 | nevcairiel | but i'm lazy and its not even play-tested yet because i'm also EU. :p |
| 21:36.04 | Cairenn | pokes nevcairiel some more |
| 21:36.14 | Cairenn | *poke poke poke* |
| 21:36.16 | nevcairiel | you can't poke my second argument away! |
| 21:36.31 | Cairenn | So? Doesn't mean I can't still poke you. |
| 21:36.49 | Cairenn | :p |
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| 21:38.29 | Cairenn | snuggles nevcairiel |
| 21:39.28 | nevcairiel | I'll update the others tomorrow after i actually fixed them. :D |
| 21:41.24 | Cairenn | :) |
| 21:41.41 | syrae | is nevcairiel snuggle-able? |
| 21:41.53 | Cairenn | everyone is snuggle-able |
| 21:42.02 | mckenziemc | even airtonix? |
| 21:42.49 | syrae | Cairenn: I think this requires testing. |
| 21:43.05 | mckenziemc | hey, you broke the awkard silence :( |
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| 21:43.47 | syrae | snuggles ChanServ |
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| 21:43.50 | foxlit | I'm mildly upset that green items with +2 item levels are better than blues. |
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| 21:45.25 | mckenziemc | yeah |
| 21:45.54 | syrae | oh gods. Giant CEO email of doom. Plus the threat of him actually asking what our opinions are on it |
| 21:46.10 | mckenziemc | D: |
| 21:46.25 | nevcairiel | ..so you have to read it? |
| 21:46.36 | syrae | My CEO will walk around the office and be all, "Hey, how are things going? Whatcha working on?' |
| 21:46.46 | syrae | nevcairiel: and understand it! |
| 21:47.19 | nevcairiel | we have so many managers between us and the CEO, he probably doesnt even know we exist |
| 21:47.37 | nevcairiel | its bad enough when our bosses boss comes around |
| 21:47.44 | syrae | my company is small. <100 people work in the main office. |
| 21:47.45 | nicoli_s | i love that our CEO knows pretty much everyone |
| 21:48.06 | syrae | nicoli_s: that's true here. :) My new CEO is pretty damn awesome compared to the old one |
| 21:51.00 | nevcairiel | nicoli_s: hubert still the boss? |
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| 21:53.23 | nicoli_s | nevcairiel:yep |
| 21:53.36 | Mr_Rabies | welp some addon doesn't like something with 4.3 |
| 21:53.36 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 21:53.40 | Mr_Rabies | not even loading |
| 21:53.43 | nevcairiel | Mr_Rabies: way to be specific |
| 21:53.52 | sylvanaar_work | did you check the box |
| 21:53.56 | sylvanaar_work | has to ask |
| 21:53.59 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 21:54.00 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 21:54.04 | jnwhiteh | amro: 11/4/20 monarch |
| 21:54.06 | Mr_Rabies | no i mean like, wow's not even loading |
| 21:54.11 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
| 21:54.15 | nevcairiel | i know today already that i'll tomorro forget to tick the box |
| 21:54.22 | Mr_Rabies | screen just goes black :p |
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| 21:59.35 | Mr_Rabies | ah well luckily i can modify the toc on the ones i really need and hopefully the one that's broken will work by friday or i can figure out what it is at least :p |
| 22:00.44 | mikma | http://youtu.be/GAabVQ_XkJ4 |
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| 22:15.57 | Seerah | Mr_Rabies: "modify the toc"? |
| 22:16.53 | Lunessa | that's not good. :P Just tick the Load out of date box! |
| 22:17.30 | Seerah | yeah, if you mean "change the Interface number", don't do that. :p |
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| 22:19.29 | Maldivia | hmm... what's the best way to figure out if a mob is actually a boss? UnitClassification doesn't seem to be of much use |
| 22:20.36 | Xyphoid | isn't the standard approach 'keep a list of every boss in the game'? |
| 22:21.11 | durcyn | see LibBossIDs etc |
| 22:23.21 | Ackis | if you greed on a BoE epic, it should remain BoE right? |
| 22:23.35 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 22:24.32 | karl_w_w | this has been the smoothest patch for addons i remember |
| 22:26.22 | Seerah | Ackis: it's if you need on it that it's bound |
| 22:26.42 | Ackis | Seerah: wife greeded on one and it got bound :'( |
| 22:26.46 | Ackis | no golds 4 her |
| 22:26.49 | Seerah | :( |
| 22:26.49 | Ackis | tehehehe wife |
| 22:30.59 | Seerah | Ackis: :D |
| 22:31.43 | Mr_Rabies | Seerah: only ones that i really need for now |
| 22:31.48 | Lunessa | Ackis, somethings are not tradable, even in the window, like the Bear Mount in ZA. |
| 22:31.55 | Seerah | again, don't do that :p |
| 22:31.55 | Mr_Rabies | if they break i can pinpoint what's broken and what's not for now |
| 22:32.11 | Mr_Rabies | way easier than trying to figure out what's broken on like a billion addons |
| 22:32.27 | Mr_Rabies | so far no problems :D |
| 22:32.40 | Seerah | 1) you don't have a billion addons, 2) that field exists for a reason :P |
| 22:33.07 | Mr_Rabies | i do have a lot :p |
| 22:33.39 | Mr_Rabies | but something's crashing if i tell it to load out of date addons so i'm just gonna force the few i really need to load for now |
| 22:33.57 | Seerah | did you disable Recount? |
| 22:34.08 | Mr_Rabies | don't use it |
| 22:34.12 | Mr_Rabies | i use skada |
| 22:34.19 | Mr_Rabies | and that's actually updated |
| 22:34.28 | Seerah | ah, that's the one I see tons of posts about |
| 22:34.33 | Seerah | (Recount, that is) |
| 22:34.56 | Seerah | oh, and FishingBuddy |
| 22:35.06 | Mr_Rabies | hrmmm |
| 22:35.10 | Mr_Rabies | i'll disable that and see |
| 22:35.18 | Seerah | Dresser, Fubar-GuildFu.... |
| 22:35.19 | Ackis | Seerah: recount is buggered? |
| 22:35.22 | Mr_Rabies | it's annoying for a crash so bad i have to close the process in task manager though :/ |
| 22:35.23 | Seerah | so says the forums |
| 22:35.26 | Ackis | I've heard that SilverDragon is |
| 22:35.35 | karl_w_w | oh looka that! |
| 22:35.48 | karl_w_w | minimap icons show if they are higher or lower than you |
| 22:36.36 | Seerah | Mounted, FishingAce, Broker_Location are others listed in this thread that prevent WoW from loading |
| 22:36.41 | Mr_Rabies | nah not fishing buddy |
| 22:36.44 | Mr_Rabies | ah well |
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| 22:37.02 | Mr_Rabies | i'm just gonna use the ones i need and if they break i'll disable them, no biggie |
| 22:37.48 | karl_w_w | cromulent is broken |
| 22:37.54 | karl_w_w | my recount is fine though |
| 22:38.43 | Dark_Elf | cromulent probably just need to update libraries like tourist and babble zone should fix it |
| 22:38.55 | Seerah | karl_w_w: Cromulent was built into the default UI, iirc |
| 22:39.54 | karl_w_w | apart from the dungeons and fishing skill of each zone |
| 22:40.12 | Mr_Rabies | bah |
| 22:40.19 | Mr_Rabies | it's something newer than september breaking |
| 22:40.49 | Mr_Rabies | i disabled everything updated earlier than september, no dice |
| 22:42.28 | Fisker | sup Stanzilla |
| 22:43.48 | Mr_Rabies | okayyyy it's something updated between september and october |
| 22:44.27 | Stanzilla | Fisker: chillin |
| 22:44.37 | Fisker | me too |
| 22:45.41 | Mr_Rabies | looks like it's broker_location |
| 22:46.09 | Dark_Elf | again libraries updated should fix |
| 22:46.47 | Mr_Rabies | i'll wait for the author to mess with libraries :p |
| 22:48.00 | Dark_Elf | its not that hard to delete them out of folder and put new in |
| 22:48.17 | Mr_Rabies | nah but it's not really that essential either |
| 22:49.03 | Dark_Elf | i just wish the packager did it like it did in the old wowace days |
| 22:53.44 | Dark_Elf | btw broker location just got updated |
| 22:56.05 | Fisker | maybe have to kill a Stanzilla |
| 22:56.18 | Mr_Rabies | chinchilla kinda breaks too, so it looks like it's just location libs for now breaking |
| 22:56.27 | Stanzilla | or a Fisker |
| 22:56.34 | Fisker | no sir |
| 22:56.37 | Mr_Rabies | of the stuff i have |
| 22:56.40 | Fisker | just bought games for cheap Stanzilla |
| 22:58.41 | Lunessa | Don't call me for help, explain the problem, then when I tell you the EXACT solution tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about. |
| 22:59.06 | Lunessa | all you do is piss me off and make me not want to help you at all. |
| 22:59.11 | Stanzilla | Fisker: which ones |
| 22:59.24 | Fisker | http://www.indieroyale.com/ |
| 22:59.42 | Fisker | got like 10 humble bundles |
| 22:59.55 | Fisker | and 14 other games from that |
| 22:59.59 | Fisker | that i have extra |
| 23:00.10 | Fisker | just taunting me :( |
| 23:00.23 | Fisker | i could just open a new account and have a sizable amount of gaems on it |
| 23:00.24 | Fisker | :3 |
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| 23:01.26 | Mr_Rabies | ah yeah i see it's been updated Dark_Elf, thanks |
| 23:01.47 | Mr_Rabies | how exactly does the curse client throtle updates anyway? it's not telling me there's an update for it but there definitely is on the page |
| 23:01.50 | Fisker | can you stop me Stanzilla ? |
| 23:01.53 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: why no linux |
| 23:01.58 | Fisker | why linux? |
| 23:02.28 | Dark_Elf | dont thank me thank coderedlin |
| 23:02.54 | Dark_Elf | usually bout 5 minutes sometimes wait |
| 23:03.08 | Mr_Rabies | well thanks for telling me it's there :p |
| 23:03.19 | Mr_Rabies | and if coderedlin was in here i would :P |
| 23:03.49 | Dark_Elf | well may want to get buggrabber it will tell u the exact error |
| 23:03.57 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, i have it |
| 23:04.04 | Mr_Rabies | problem was, it was locking up on the load screen :P |
| 23:04.25 | Stanzilla | Fisker: nope |
| 23:04.25 | Dark_Elf | if it locks on load, need to run game with no addons first |
| 23:04.33 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 23:04.40 | Mr_Rabies | did all that already :p |
| 23:04.48 | Mr_Rabies | i've pinpointed all the addons that lock on load |
| 23:05.29 | Dark_Elf | sounds like all u listed are using the babble zone or tourist library though |
| 23:05.40 | Mr_Rabies | the only really important one left is chinchilla and ckknight conveniently isn't currently in here to harass incessantly until he drives a car into an orphanage |
| 23:06.05 | Dark_Elf | haha ckknight has not been updating that anyways |
| 23:06.10 | Arrowmaster | he wont fix it |
| 23:06.25 | Xuerian | Didn't he kindof stop working on addons when he started working at curse? |
| 23:06.37 | Mr_Rabies | ah, he's working for curse now? |
| 23:07.04 | Mr_Rabies | i hope his awesomeness spreads to curse as a whole |
| 23:07.12 | Xuerian | One of the first employees when it was ramped up |
| 23:07.36 | Mr_Rabies | kinda sucks if he's done with his addons though, i remember harassing him almost daily in tbc to add junk to pitbull :P |
| 23:08.06 | nicoli_s | Mr_Rabies:the client should only throttle your downloads, not telling you if theres an update |
| 23:08.19 | nicoli_s | but i know our devs are looking into a service issue that might be causing your issues |
| 23:08.21 | Stanzilla | "THE CINEMATIC IS NOT AVAILABLE" |
| 23:08.23 | Xuerian | Mr_Rabies: I gave up on ckk when he hit the EVERYTHING MODULAR ALL THE TIME mania stage |
| 23:08.25 | Stanzilla | Good job blizzard |
| 23:08.34 | Xuerian | Mr_Rabies: Not that it's not great or anything, it just drove me up the wall and I wrote my own ouf layout |
| 23:08.35 | Stanzilla | idiots >.< |
| 23:08.39 | Mr_Rabies | i love EVERYTHING MODULAR ALL THE TIME myself :p |
| 23:08.40 | nicoli_s | i never see ckk around here anymore |
| 23:08.56 | Xuerian | Mr_Rabies: It is, but he took it to a new, special level |
| 23:09.32 | Mr_Rabies | nicoli_s, no biggie, it's just kinda mysterious how the updates are listed sometimes |
| 23:09.50 | Mr_Rabies | i don't blame them forthrottling if they do, i'm a moocher |
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| 23:10.21 | Mr_Rabies | well kinda, i'm too lazy to block the ads in the client so i guess i'm not entirely mooching :p |
| 23:13.47 | nicoli_s | well we appreciate it :) |
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| 23:16.25 | Fisker | i'm just gonna stand here and be awesome Tuller |
| 23:16.32 | Mr_Rabies | hrmm, yeah i uninstalled broker_location and tried reinstalling it using the client and it's still showing 1.4 is the latest version |
| 23:16.38 | Tuller | its what i do, normally |
| 23:16.42 | Mr_Rabies | no big deal, i'll just get it the old fashioned way |
| 23:17.08 | Stanzilla | Fisker: why is blizzard so fail and forgets to add the deathwing cinematic? :< |
| 23:17.29 | Fisker | i could disagree Stanzilla |
| 23:17.40 | Stanzilla | why |
| 23:19.01 | Fisker | because i could |
| 23:22.02 | Fisker | will brr then sleep Stanzilla |
| 23:22.02 | Fisker | bye |
| 23:22.12 | Stanzilla | brr |
| 23:23.34 | Arrowmaster | its fucking snowing here :( |
| 23:25.38 | Tuller | needs to grumble at jaliborc since i know he has a version of omnicc working /w 4.3 |
| 23:25.48 | nicoli_s | i wish it would have snowed here |
| 23:25.54 | nicoli_s | like 5 min away it snowed like 3 or 4 in |
| 23:26.19 | kd3|netbook | forecast calls for "... A mix of flurries and light rain possible tonight... " |
| 23:26.22 | Shadowed | Tuller why are my addons broken |
| 23:26.29 | kd3|netbook | I'm going to run by work to see if we're out of milk and bread yet |
| 23:26.39 | Duman | heh |
| 23:26.41 | Tuller | because tomorrow is not thursday |
| 23:27.18 | Shadowed | also fyi tuller |
| 23:27.27 | Shadowed | libkeybound needs support for "CMD" -> "C" shortening due to 4.3 mac stuff |
| 23:27.55 | durcyn | oh, are we bitching at tuller, such as why bagnon_forever disappeared from github? |
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| 23:29.20 | Stanzilla | It got replaced durcyn |
| 23:31.01 | Tuller | which isn't a good reason to just remove the code :P |
| 23:33.04 | Tuller | and the command key should clearly have the proper command icon if it exists in the font |
| 23:33.21 | Tuller | though that code exists on wowace and is public domain |
| 23:35.39 | Thunder_Child | i can bitch at you if you would like tuller |
| 23:36.00 | Tuller | waffleiron |
| 23:36.06 | durcyn | Stanzilla: wait, with what? |
| 23:36.22 | Stanzilla | durcyn: bagbrother or so, ask teh man himself |
| 23:36.40 | Stanzilla | Tuller: awesome omnicc issue btw |
| 23:37.14 | Tuller | tullaCC works :P |
| 23:37.49 | Stanzilla | gtfo :D |
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| 23:39.36 | Tuller | i'm not the developer of bagnon anymore, but i know he moved it over to something that can theoretically support more than just bagnon_forever |
| 23:40.23 | Arrowmaster | you still play wow? |
| 23:41.45 | Shadowed | Tuller good news |
| 23:41.46 | Shadowed | omnicc worked |
| 23:41.47 | Shadowed | once |
| 23:41.54 | Shadowed | actually it seems to sort of work |
| 23:41.56 | Tuller | tullaCC works |
| 23:42.17 | Shadowed | well |
| 23:42.20 | Shadowed | it shows the CD once it hits 3s |
| 23:42.22 | Shadowed | rather than the full length |
| 23:42.27 | Tuller | basically blizzard decided to move action button cooldowns off of using lua |
| 23:42.28 | Stanzilla | Fisker: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/11/next-stage-in-our-redesign.html Adys_ |
| 23:42.31 | Shadowed | yea |
| 23:42.32 | Shadowed | into C |
| 23:42.36 | Shadowed | I'm confused why it partuially works though |
| 23:42.56 | Tuller | because they didn't entirely remove all of the code that actually calls cooldown updates |
| 23:42.59 | Shadowed | ah |
| 23:43.22 | Tuller | so tullaCC has a hack to do it, which is implemented in a branch of omnicc on github |
| 23:44.46 | Tuller | its a dumb hack, since i literally am just recalling the cooldown code |
| 23:45.14 | Stanzilla | Tuller: https://github.com/tullamods/OmniCC/tree/actionUIButton this one? |
| 23:45.36 | Tuller | yeah |
| 23:46.06 | Tuller | if he doesn't push out an update tomorrowish, i'll probably do it myself |
| 23:46.43 | Tuller | though his implementation isn't exactly the same as mine |
| 23:47.23 | Tuller | since that one is designed to work on anything that does setactionui button, and my hack is localized to stuff that just uses blizzard actionbutton code |
| 23:49.00 | Kemayo | Oh wow. Quitting the game and logging back in *didn't drop me from the LFG queue*. |
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