| 00:00.14 | Lunessa | Ok, home times. Happy holiday for those in the US. |
| 00:03.03 | Arrowmaster | ah damnit he left |
| 00:03.30 | Arrowmaster | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/07/faa-ready-arkansas-turkey-drop_n_1000527.html |
| 00:05.55 | Arrowmaster | http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=20564 |
| 00:05.57 | Cide | Fisker: so was it 50/3? |
| 00:06.07 | Arrowmaster | "About a decade ago a local radio station claimed they'd be dropping turkeys out of a plane for a Thanksgiving contest. There was some prize involved for whoever caught a turkey. Of course, they built it up to seem like they'd be throwing live turkeys out of a flying plane, and took great pleasure in getting animal rights activists riled up on air. |
| 00:06.12 | Arrowmaster | The stunt actually involved a DJ tossing frozen Butterball turkeys four feet out the door of a parked plane." |
| 00:06.15 | Arrowmaster | laughing so hard at that |
| 00:07.30 | foxlit | butbut! |
| 00:07.37 | foxlit | frozen turkeys from a flying plane |
| 00:07.57 | foxlit | wonder what the terminal velocity of that is, and how much injury one can expect if one collides with someone's head |
| 00:08.41 | Arrowmaster | ok so the link lunessa posted was posted on the snopes forum i linked, i wonder if he found it there |
| 00:10.53 | foxlit | hm, wolfram alpha calls itself a knowledge engine |
| 00:11.03 | foxlit | yet it can't actually say what the terminal velocity of a frozen turkey is :( |
| 00:12.53 | Arrowmaster | lol |
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| 00:28.10 | Kraps | http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=terminal+velocity+of+a+swallow |
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| 00:41.35 | Nefarion | hey there |
| 00:44.34 | Nefarion | anyone here who can give me a quick hint whats a definition like "local function = [[ somefunctionarguments]]" is called, or where i can find some info about it? |
| 00:46.06 | Iriel | Hm, which context? |
| 00:46.15 | Iriel | Secure code? |
| 00:46.19 | Iriel | just general lua? |
| 00:46.37 | Nefarion | both would be nice :) |
| 00:47.41 | Iriel | Well, it could just be someone writing a string they plan on loadstring'ing later |
| 00:48.52 | Iriel | Or it could relate to this: http://www.iriel.org/wow/docs/SecureHeadersGuide-4.0-r1.pdf |
| 00:50.00 | Nefarion | looks like another good page to bookmark :) |
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| 01:00.46 | kd3 | ack; slimes spawning in my rail tunnel |
| 01:03.07 | Nefarion | hrmpf... when can i access newtable() aka table.new()? i tried it in a local function -> "newtabel(a nil value)" |
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| 01:05.43 | Sintacks | newtabel |
| 01:05.44 | Sintacks | wat |
| 01:05.47 | Sintacks | lrn2spl |
| 01:05.55 | Nefarion | ofc newtable XD |
| 01:05.57 | Nefarion | sry |
| 01:06.00 | Nefarion | i just typed it of |
| 01:07.39 | Nefarion | Iriel: whats that "control" refered to on page 19? |
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| 01:12.46 | starlon | Turkey! :D Smells so good. lol. Happy thanksgiving, guys. |
| 01:12.57 | Nefarion | :) |
| 01:18.37 | Iriel | Nefarion: the earlier secure frame API placed some methods on a different object |
| 01:19.17 | Iriel | Nefarion: largely because some (never released) functionality used to use it, but since it was unnecessary complication it got removed |
| 01:19.27 | Iriel | Nefarion: it's kept around largely to avoid breaking existing code |
| 01:19.50 | Nefarion | oh so how do i call that Run() then? |
| 01:20.36 | Iriel | self:Run should do the trick |
| 01:20.42 | Nefarion | great thx :) |
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| 01:22.01 | kd3 | er, any reason why you're not just calling "local t = {}"? |
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| 01:22.21 | Nefarion | jep because its in a Uniframe :) |
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| 01:22.48 | Nefarion | and afaik there i can't create tables like that nor use {} or the word function, right? |
| 01:24.25 | Iriel | kd3 - the wonders of the secure code environment |
| 01:24.33 | Nefarion | :) |
| 01:24.34 | Iriel | kd3: tables are a bit too dangerous "naked" |
| 01:24.58 | kd3 | oh, yah. the secure environment is full of pain and suffering |
| 01:24.59 | Nefarion | encoutered another problem: how do i declare a "self" in that function? |
| 01:25.00 | kd3 | winces |
| 01:26.01 | Nefarion | aww forgett it -.- stupid question XD |
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| 01:29.09 | Iriel | Nefarion: i'm assuming you're using the secure code because what you want to do REQUIRES it |
| 01:30.54 | Nefarion | Iriel:yep i am trying to create a function that is executed on creation of a frame, more or less, and that frame should be a header Frame for the raid, so it should only create some kind of background and then initiate the subframes(buttons) for the players |
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| 01:48.22 | Nefarion | hrmpf... whats the same function as GetChildList() outside the restricted environment? |
| 01:50.49 | Iriel | GetChildren? |
| 01:53.59 | Nefarion | so that returns a table? great :) |
| 01:54.28 | Nefarion | vote 4 intellisense for lua!!! |
| 01:55.17 | Arrowmaster | use sylvanaar_work's editor if you want that |
| 01:58.04 | Iriel | Nefarion: it returns a list, IIRC, you have to do children = { blah:GetChildren(); } if you want a table |
| 01:58.31 | Nefarion | oh great :) thanks :) |
| 02:04.09 | Nefarion | can i set a function as a attribute? naw or? |
| 02:06.48 | mckenziemc | ~8ball |
| 02:06.48 | purl | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: Signs point to yes |
| 02:07.26 | mckenziemc | :O |
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| 02:07.31 | Nefarion | ? |
| 02:08.04 | Xuerian | So, what. Is AceConfig-3.0 pretty much still the only generic configuration lib, or are there other light options? |
| 02:08.55 | Nefarion | no clue, sry XD |
| 02:10.17 | Xuerian | resignedly grumbles about users only caring about Options GUIs |
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| 02:26.04 | pompy | http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/718633/steams-autumn-sale-begins-today-were-thankful-for-valve |
| 02:29.35 | pompy | portal 2, 66% off, $10 |
| 02:30.04 | Xyphoid | me2 for $5 is lovely too |
| 02:30.12 | pompy | yeah def |
| 02:30.15 | Xyphoid | day 1 mostly has stuff i already have though, oh well |
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| 02:54.24 | Xuerian | Is there still a site around that lists all the global strings? |
| 02:58.52 | bluspacecow | wowprogramming.com try there |
| 03:01.07 | Xuerian | Ah, it was wowcompares I was looking for.. Went under, apparently. That's too bad. Guess I'll snag the dev kit, ty bluspacecow. |
| 03:03.55 | Cairenn | ~wowprogramming |
| 03:03.55 | purl | i heard wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons - http://is.gd/7A3Jx - a book written by Cladhaire (jnwhiteh) and Gazmik, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 03:04.55 | Xuerian | Yea Cairenn. He's got the interface kit listed on the tools page. Just trying to avoid having to do localization on channel names :P No equivalent of wowcompares that I can see, though |
| 03:05.13 | Cairenn | And yeah, unfortunately the one we were hosting poofed when Bela quit the game |
| 03:05.19 | Cairenn | No one stepped up to take it over |
| 03:06.08 | Xuerian | A shame, that was handy. |
| 03:06.19 | Cairenn | Yeah, it really was |
| 03:06.20 | Xuerian | Also flerp derp, CHAT_MSG_{DERP}. |
| 03:06.44 | Cairenn | If someone ever wanted to start it up again, we'd be more than happy to host it again :) |
| 03:07.05 | bluspacecow | dropbox hosting ? |
| 03:07.26 | nebula169 | ~framexml |
| 03:07.26 | purl | rumour has it, framexml is Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 03:07.40 | nebula169 | http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml is similar to wowcompares |
| 03:08.39 | Xuerian | Huh. I forgot about that one. Already found my answer from the framexml/gstrings (oh-ho-ho), but that'll do too. |
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| 03:33.47 | kd3 | huh, wow. google reader gives up after 1000 unread items |
| 03:34.35 | kd3 | just about all of which comes from the steamgamesales feed... |
| 03:36.58 | mckenziemc | lol |
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| 04:15.47 | Arrowmaster | kd3: fyi a certain group has made a release with 6.1 flac audio that does not play very well since there is no standard channel order for 7 channel flac |
| 04:16.06 | kd3 | hrm |
| 04:16.12 | kd3 | tabs open tt |
| 04:17.44 | starlon | tabs that asp. |
| 04:20.53 | Xuerian | is confused.. |
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| 04:24.47 | Arrowmaster | found The Thing 2011 R5 LiNE XviD |
| 04:24.53 | Arrowmaster | downloads |
| 04:45.47 | karl_w_w | shammies... losing purge? o.O |
| 04:46.06 | karl_w_w | I mean, it's purge |
| 04:46.18 | karl_w_w | how are you a shaman without purge? does not make sense |
| 04:46.55 | Arrowmaster | who the fuck thought this was a good idea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGiQzPi0f_E |
| 04:47.05 | Arrowmaster | warning you will want to murder somebody after watching the video |
| 04:47.49 | karl_w_w | I'll watch it safe in the knowledge that Fisker is always available for murder |
| 04:48.09 | mckenziemc | i killed Fisker |
| 04:48.53 | karl_w_w | murders mckenziemc |
| 04:48.58 | mckenziemc | :( |
| 05:19.10 | Xuerian | Removing purge, wat? |
| 05:21.41 | mckenziemc | s/Removing/Purging/ |
| 05:30.17 | mckenziemc | hey blu, did you bring me any? |
| 05:30.39 | Bluspacecow | *giefs potatoe chips to mck* |
| 05:31.25 | mckenziemc | devours Bluspacecow |
| 05:31.32 | Sintacks | steals mck's chips. |
| 05:31.39 | Sintacks | watches Bluspacecow get eaten |
| 05:31.59 | Sintacks | hax's Bluspacecow and spams wow forums with greentext |
| 05:39.07 | Arrowmaster | http://kotaku.com/5862437/leland-yee-has-more-black-friday-shopping-tips-for-you |
| 05:39.20 | Arrowmaster | 'He then goes on to list seventeen titles, ranging from Skyrim to Saints Row: The Third to Uncharted 3 as being titles that "several media sources" urge parents to avoid.' |
| 05:39.46 | Arrowmaster | what gives skyrim an M rating other than the gore? |
| 05:40.34 | Arrowmaster | oh hmm found the box |
| 05:49.23 | Sintacks | Does anyone know how to limit upload speed with Blizzard Downloaders |
| 05:49.36 | kd3 | don't use it? |
| 05:49.46 | Bluspacecow | ^^ |
| 05:50.12 | Sintacks | lol |
| 05:50.20 | Bluspacecow | i think there may be a program you can use to set upload/download limits for programs on the fly |
| 05:50.26 | Bluspacecow | just don't recall what it was |
| 05:50.28 | Sintacks | then give me a method of downlaoding the trial client (if it's even different) for SC2 |
| 05:50.58 | Sintacks | hmm. i'm getting ~500KB/s just from HTTP download. |
| 05:51.36 | Sintacks | it just died... and went to 4KB/s |
| 05:51.38 | Sintacks | wt |
| 05:51.40 | Sintacks | wtf* |
| 06:06.15 | karl_w_w | Bluspacecow: netbalancer |
| 06:06.25 | Bluspacecow | i think so |
| 06:06.55 | Sintacks | if i could figure out how to get the .torrent out of it i could just use utorrent |
| 06:07.25 | mckenziemc | i think adirelle figured that out |
| 06:07.37 | Bluspacecow | wow.tfil is meant to be it but not sure if it can be converted |
| 06:07.40 | mckenziemc | you have to put a name field in it and it'll work iirc |
| 06:07.44 | wereHamster | Sintacks: if it's the standard wow downloader then there are tools to do that |
| 06:07.55 | wereHamster | s/wow/blizzard/ |
| 06:08.03 | Sintacks | it is, wereHamster |
| 06:08.23 | Sintacks | oddly, i read what you said as "standard blizzard downloader" |
| 06:08.25 | kd3 | wowtorrentex |
| 06:08.41 | kd3 | should work |
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| 06:10.46 | Sintacks | ;| |
| 06:10.59 | Sintacks | that looks for a "wow-*-downloader.exe" |
| 06:11.20 | Arrowmaster | or you can give it the exe as an argument |
| 06:11.43 | Arrowmaster | or just drag and drop onto it |
| 06:11.54 | Sintacks | heh.. actually, i don't even know where the downloader went ... |
| 06:12.56 | Sintacks | found it but it failed at converting. |
| 06:13.09 | Sintacks | "torrent is not valid bencoding!" |
| 06:13.11 | Sintacks | :| |
| 06:13.12 | Arrowmaster | which version |
| 06:13.32 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if he ever updated it for the patch i sent him |
| 06:13.39 | Sintacks | v3 |
| 06:13.51 | Arrowmaster | i think youll need at least v4 |
| 06:14.24 | Sintacks | trying v4 |
| 06:14.50 | Sintacks | worked |
| 06:15.26 | Arrowmaster | its because they started signing the executables i think and it needed to be updated on how to find the torrent in it |
| 06:15.55 | Sintacks | yeah, what i read on wowpedia is there is some extra shit after the torrent info that you have to take out if you use some other program |
| 06:16.01 | Sintacks | i assume v3 didn't do that, but v4 does |
| 06:16.08 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 06:16.33 | Arrowmaster | v4 kinda guesses at it though and i sent him a patch that uses the header info to find the exact location |
| 06:16.49 | Sintacks | lol |
| 06:17.00 | Sintacks | also... i'm not sure if this is going to be faster or not... |
| 06:17.04 | Sintacks | i'm only at 50KB/s |
| 06:17.12 | Sintacks | i had 400 just from the HTTP download from blizzard |
| 06:17.33 | Arrowmaster | yeah it actually doesnt tend to be faster except maybe on patch days |
| 06:18.10 | Sintacks | oo. i see why utorrent can't use what the downloader has already downloaded... |
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| 06:18.18 | Sintacks | the downloader uses .part files ... |
| 06:18.46 | Sintacks | i'll just stick to the downloader heh |
| 06:19.57 | Arrowmaster | ive even talked with some torrent client devs about implementing blizzards http seed method, problem is that the http info isnt in the torrent file at all, its only in the exe |
| 06:20.09 | Sintacks | ... fuck |
| 06:20.20 | Sintacks | i lost the 700MB i had already downloaded |
| 06:20.59 | Sintacks | what the hell. my brother's is at 2.6GB ... |
| 06:21.12 | Sintacks | i'll just copy his after |
| 06:21.13 | Sintacks | fuck that |
| 06:23.35 | karl_w_w | and thus emerges the sensible option |
| 06:23.56 | Sintacks | lol |
| 06:24.13 | Sintacks | i knew we wouldn't cap on 40mb/s and i like wasting bandwidth |
| 06:26.14 | mckenziemc | 40 millibits? :P |
| 06:27.25 | Arrowmaster | now convert that to nibbles |
| 06:38.07 | mckenziemc | 36 nibbles per hour |
| 06:38.12 | Sintacks | 40Mb/s |
| 06:38.13 | Sintacks | smratss |
| 06:38.15 | Sintacks | smartass* |
| 06:38.33 | mckenziemc | D: |
| 06:46.00 | Sintacks | why the fuck do electronics companies have to be so fucking annoying with digital audio input/output formats... |
| 06:46.12 | Sintacks | fucking TV has a coax output.. this home theater system has an optical. |
| 06:46.28 | Sintacks | input that is |
| 06:46.32 | Sintacks | RAWR |
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| 07:20.28 | Xuerian | AAAAGHHH HOW I FRAME BOX MODEL |
| 07:20.30 | Xuerian | stabs everything. |
| 07:20.36 | Xuerian | ~stab everything |
| 07:20.36 | purl | ACTION runs at everything with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
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| 07:48.43 | Torhal | peers curiously at Xuerian. |
| 07:49.14 | Xuerian | Torhal: I'm so rusty and it's late and there's turkey tomorrow and ARGH EVERYTHING |
| 07:49.30 | Torhal | Rusty at…? |
| 07:51.08 | mckenziemc1 | put its fingerprints on the murder weapon |
| 07:51.16 | mckenziemc1 | oops, was scrolled up >< |
| 08:08.15 | Xuerian | Torhal: addons. |
| 08:08.45 | Torhal | Xuerian: Ah |
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| 08:11.52 | Trela | HA HA |
| 08:11.54 | Trela | Joke is on me. |
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| 08:12.00 | Trela | I bought Duke Nukem Forever. :( |
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| 08:18.02 | pompy | at least u didnt pay $30+ for it Trela |
| 08:18.12 | pompy | maybe its not even worth $6 tho! |
| 08:18.26 | Trela | $6.79! |
| 08:18.49 | pompy | portal 2 is $10.19! |
| 08:19.15 | Trela | Having to move the mouse completely across the desk ten times to do a 360 degree turn is shitty mouse controls. "Hey, lets make a game that goes against game programming standards and tie mouse movement to frame rate! HERP DERP!" |
| 08:19.34 | Trela | *are |
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| 08:21.37 | Cairenn | night all |
| 08:21.41 | mckenziemc1 | night |
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| 08:27.11 | Xuerian | Torhal: Yeah, heh. I'm finally adding a GUI to XLoot in prep for re-writing the addons, and I'm pulling a "only good code is my code" (it's not D:) and doing my own profile/option libs. |
| 08:27.32 | Xuerian | Except I spent a hour and a half flerping my derp trying to recursively generate controls. |
| 08:27.54 | Torhal | Easy. Unless you're flerping derps. |
| 08:28.02 | Xuerian | So many derps being flerped |
| 08:28.08 | Torhal | Damn derps. |
| 08:28.52 | Xuerian | Yep. Night though, have fun all. o/ |
| 08:29.05 | Xuerian | Happy Thanksgiving US-ains. |
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| 08:49.13 | Maldivia | *yawn* |
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| 08:57.31 | Bluspacecow | bbl nap tiems |
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| 09:14.33 | karl_w_w | do newegg deliver internationally? :P |
| 09:16.42 | haste | don't think so |
| 09:17.00 | Trela | http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/newsfeed/000/204/366/angry-spraycop.jpeg?1321931963 |
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| 09:34.21 | Mr_Rabies | yessssss http://i.imgur.com/0oUDK.jpg |
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| 10:39.37 | mitch0 | trela: :) |
| 10:39.47 | Trela | mitch0: :O? |
| 10:41.53 | mitch0 | nice pic |
| 10:45.21 | Fisker | hey mitch0 |
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| 11:00.56 | Fisker | Ackis now owns The Sims Medieval: Pirates and Nobles |
| 11:00.57 | Fisker | BUUUUUUURN |
| 11:01.21 | Elkano | yeah, he should have waited until the last day at least... |
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| 11:49.41 | Fisker | hey Elkano |
| 11:49.43 | Fisker | not so hey Kalroth |
| 11:51.05 | Kalroth | werd |
| 11:52.46 | Fisker | werd? |
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| 11:56.52 | Fisker | i'm bored Kalroth |
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| 12:11.08 | karl_w_w | is it pronounced bail-rock or bal-er-ock? |
| 12:17.59 | Maldivia | I pronounce it with a silent e |
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| 12:23.57 | Fisker | so Maldivia |
| 12:24.00 | Fisker | what should a fisker do? |
| 12:24.31 | bluspacecow | a fisker should say hai2u 2 blu |
| 12:25.56 | Fisker | nope bluspacecow |
| 12:25.56 | Fisker | imad |
| 12:26.06 | bluspacecow | oh ? |
| 12:26.09 | Fisker | yep |
| 12:26.10 | bluspacecow | y u mat |
| 12:26.18 | Fisker | because i no d3 beta |
| 12:26.25 | bluspacecow | ..... |
| 12:26.29 | bluspacecow | y |
| 12:26.39 | Fisker | AH bugged |
| 12:26.41 | Fisker | can't unbug it |
| 12:26.46 | bluspacecow | oh |
| 12:26.48 | bluspacecow | and y u mad ? |
| 12:28.18 | Fisker | cause no d3? |
| 12:28.40 | bluspacecow | lolololol |
| 12:32.09 | haste | will I get my package today Fisker ? |
| 12:32.23 | haste | it was one hour from here at 11:30! |
| 12:32.26 | Maldivia | http://imgur.com/423mM -- LOL! |
| 12:33.06 | Maldivia | Fisker: there's always SWTOR stress testing starting tomorrow? |
| 12:36.56 | Fisker | oh ok Maldivia |
| 12:37.04 | Fisker | will i get my package in a week haste ? |
| 12:37.24 | haste | yes Fisker |
| 12:37.36 | haste | probably before, unless you ordered from outside denmark |
| 12:38.10 | Fisker | nah haste |
| 12:38.16 | Fisker | because they won't send it until friday next week |
| 12:38.18 | Fisker | so bam |
| 12:40.47 | haste | lol fail |
| 12:42.23 | Fisker | yeah |
| 12:42.34 | Fisker | did you call up Samsung and shout FUS RO DAH? |
| 12:42.56 | haste | no |
| 12:43.05 | Fisker | then you're not even trying to help |
| 12:43.59 | Fisker | if i were Darth Sidious i would tell Anakin that he could save Padmé by going to Samsung and kill everyone |
| 12:52.13 | starlon | fiskers the lawn and waters the buds. |
| 12:56.07 | Fisker | no? |
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| 13:49.56 | starlon | “Thanksgiving: a magical time of year when families across the country gather together to raise America’s obesity statistics.” -– Stephen Colbert |
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| 14:35.29 | karl_w_w | lol starlon |
| 14:46.25 | jnwhiteh | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/9760af0c7711157f156c86171082b617.png |
| 14:48.08 | amro | that's pro. that's like a sting op troll |
| 14:49.35 | bluspacecow | Cairenn https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/312207_275370145842450_236124369767028_850586_1508759023_n.jpg |
| 14:50.50 | Fisker | just gonna a |
| 14:50.57 | Fisker | so jnwhiteh |
| 14:51.03 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 14:51.06 | Fisker | I reported you for account sharing |
| 14:51.06 | Fisker | :3 |
| 14:52.02 | jnwhiteh | oh.. okay. |
| 14:52.12 | jnwhiteh | that must be why I got this email from a taiwanese website |
| 14:52.42 | bluspacecow | no thats your newsletter from the mail order brides mailing list |
| 14:54.18 | jnwhiteh | oh, very confusing! |
| 14:55.57 | Fisker | chinese |
| 14:56.19 | jnwhiteh | oh yes, it was battle.net.cn |
| 14:56.21 | jnwhiteh | confusing. |
| 14:56.24 | Ackis | why would jnwhiteh want mail order brides? |
| 14:57.12 | Maldivia | account sharing... hmm... |
| 15:03.40 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 15:03.42 | Fisker | you got busted |
| 15:04.00 | Ackis | how? |
| 15:04.16 | Fisker | sims medieval |
| 15:04.36 | Ackis | busted how so? |
| 15:04.45 | Fisker | sims |
| 15:04.57 | Ackis | yeah so? |
| 15:05.07 | Ackis | I played the Sims 3 last night, I've been playing Sims Social on facebook |
| 15:05.13 | jnwhiteh | wow the new talent specs are awesome. |
| 15:05.24 | Ackis | and Sims Medivial is supposed to be more of a quest based type game instead of open world sandbox |
| 15:05.29 | Fisker | triple busted |
| 15:06.31 | Stanzilla | Fisker sinep |
| 15:06.53 | Fisker | no Stanzilla :( |
| 15:06.59 | Fisker | my account is busted |
| 15:07.05 | Stanzilla | I know |
| 15:07.45 | Fisker | what to do Stanzilla ? |
| 15:08.08 | Ackis | Stanzilla: http://fgs.rzadki.eu/ |
| 15:08.12 | Stanzilla | call CS |
| 15:08.13 | Stanzilla | l0l |
| 15:08.29 | Fisker | no Stanzilla |
| 15:08.30 | Stanzilla | Ackis: I stopped playing :D |
| 15:08.40 | Fisker | jesus Ackis |
| 15:08.45 | Ackis | Stanzilla: that's not for sims social only |
| 15:08.55 | Stanzilla | Ackis: I know :D |
| 15:08.57 | Fisker | ITS FOR FACEBOOK ACKIS |
| 15:08.58 | Fisker | FACEBOOK |
| 15:09.22 | Ackis | Fisker: shut up |
| 15:09.28 | Fisker | facebook Ackis |
| 15:11.09 | Ackis | what's your facebook Fisker? |
| 15:11.16 | Fisker | nope.avi Ackis |
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| 15:21.38 | Fisker | lets hug bluspacecow |
| 15:21.55 | bluspacecow | *hugs jhwhite* |
| 15:23.12 | Fisker | :( |
| 15:23.16 | Fisker | i hate jnwhite |
| 15:23.30 | bluspacecow | *adjusts glasses* |
| 15:23.33 | bluspacecow | *fondles fisker* |
| 15:23.40 | Fisker | oh ok |
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| 15:29.12 | Nefarion | hey there :) |
| 15:29.42 | Maldivia | time to get home |
| 15:29.52 | Nefarion | :) |
| 15:30.15 | Fisker | oh ok Maldivia |
| 15:30.17 | Fisker | good luck |
| 15:31.37 | Maldivia | thanks - hopefully I wont need it :) |
| 15:31.54 | Fisker | you have no idea |
| 15:33.48 | Maldivia | so you're the the reason the bus is late? |
| 15:33.58 | Fisker | yeah |
| 15:39.18 | Fisker | lets get freaky bluspacecow ? |
| 15:39.29 | bluspacecow | oks! |
| 15:40.06 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 15:41.21 | Maldivia | starts singing... let's get physical, physical... |
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| 15:52.35 | starlon | Mario kills racoon dogs. |
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| 16:00.03 | Arrowmaster | im really really confused here, apparently they put Battlefield2: Modern Combat up for sale on XBL but i thought that was an online only game with no single player, and EA already shutdown the servers |
| 16:00.24 | Fisker | so it's a real steal Arrowmaster |
| 16:04.00 | pompy1 | Arrowmaster: hmm Rage for $30.. still look for the anarchy edition tho? |
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| 16:05.14 | Arrowmaster | pompy1: check the stores, they should have it on sale too |
| 16:06.16 | Arrowmaster | but yeah the anarchy edition gets you out of the decision on which of the 3 armors to pick since the bonus armor has the benefits of all 3 |
| 16:07.12 | pompy1 | hm i dont see rage anarchy edition listed as a seperate product |
| 16:07.19 | Arrowmaster | its not |
| 16:07.45 | Arrowmaster | it was ment to be the first run of the game but stores still have it, last time i was in my local bestbuy they still had some on the shelf |
| 16:08.10 | pompy1 | well the best buy here opens at midnight, might hit it up |
| 16:08.57 | pompy1 | http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Nintendo+-+Nintendo+3DS+%28Cosmo+Black%29+with+The+Legend+of+Zelda%3A+Ocarina+of+Time+3D/3848154.p?id=1218435552675&skuId=3848154&st=3ds%20zelda&cp=1&lp=1 |
| 16:09.09 | Arrowmaster | is the store closed today? |
| 16:09.09 | pompy1 | $20 cheaper than gamestop, hm |
| 16:09.14 | Arrowmaster | normally they are open till 9pm |
| 16:09.36 | pompy1 | yes they are |
| 16:09.38 | pompy1 | closed |
| 16:10.01 | Arrowmaster | that is a pretty looking DS |
| 16:10.45 | pompy1 | yeah. i planned on getting it from gamestop tonight.. but with bestbuy having it $20 cheaper.. i might jus get it from there |
| 16:11.49 | Arrowmaster | could just order it online too |
| 16:12.48 | pompy1 | well yeah |
| 16:12.56 | pompy1 | for $180 |
| 16:13.32 | pompy1 | hah damn best buy had the halo reach limited edition for $15 today |
| 16:16.22 | Arrowmaster | thanksgiving lunch may be canceled, aunt just called and their power went out |
| 16:16.39 | Arrowmaster | the turkey was about half cooked too |
| 16:20.28 | Stanzilla | get out the candles |
| 16:20.46 | Fisker | hey Arrowmaster |
| 16:20.54 | Fisker | as far as i remember the pilgrims didn't have electricity either |
| 16:21.26 | Elkano | they did, at least when Franklin was struck by lightning |
| 16:23.59 | Fisker | Stanzilla's a Elkano for bluspacecow |
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| 16:38.41 | Ackis | hey Fisker I got my firelands corrupted mount last night, you jelly? |
| 16:38.54 | bluspacecow | http://www.virtualshackles.com/264 |
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| 16:44.53 | Fisker | nope Ackis |
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| 16:58.15 | Iriel | This made me chuckle: http://amultiverse.com/ |
| 16:58.18 | pompy1 | Arrowmaster: the da vinci disappearance dlc on sale.. half off i think.. you probably already have it though |
| 16:58.32 | Arrowmaster | bought it yesterday |
| 16:59.32 | pompy1 | nice |
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| 17:02.35 | Arrowmaster | bah i should have opened my poster tube from blizzard earlier, i got a wrong poster |
| 17:05.10 | Iriel | Diablo's head on Kerrigan's body wrong? |
| 17:05.18 | Iriel | Or merely not the one you asked for? |
| 17:07.32 | Fisker | He got a poster of the heavy metal dude saying that alliance are fags |
| 17:11.38 | Arrowmaster | i ordered the 3 diablo posters and the key art poster, i got the tyerial and box art poster and the key art poster and instead of the other diablo poster i got a wow poster |
| 17:13.19 | Fisker | so what? |
| 17:13.25 | Fisker | noones gonna know the difference |
| 17:26.37 | Stanzilla | Fisker: wanna do some skelly king runs? |
| 17:27.22 | Fisker | fuck you Stanzilla |
| 17:27.30 | Stanzilla | sorry :D |
| 17:27.38 | Fisker | i hate you |
| 17:35.07 | Stanzilla | Fisker: "I've heard a lot of problems with the Galaxy Nexus, worst one my friend had with his Galaxy Nexus. If you put the phone near another phone it goes WILD! the shielding seems to be sun standard so the EMI causes the screen to look like an OLD crt with a magnet near it and it randomly starts opening menus." |
| 17:35.09 | Stanzilla | wat |
| 17:39.53 | Fisker | troll |
| 17:42.57 | pompy1 | http://www.amazon.com/Outlet/b/ref=bf2011_ln_vg?ie=UTF8&plgroup=1&node=409566&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=left-2&pf_rd_r=07EWDXRC3WAY07MG1FCK&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1332538402&pf_rd_i=384082011 lightning deals in video games not till 615pm pacific time tonight |
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| 18:10.30 | A-KO | is it just me or is skyrim disproportinately against casters? |
| 18:10.35 | A-KO | it's realy damn difficult in some areas |
| 18:10.42 | bluspacecow | i go sleeps nows |
| 18:13.05 | karl_w_w | rift, $7.50! |
| 18:13.19 | karl_w_w | that's how it's a wow killer, by being cheap, right? |
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| 18:14.46 | foxlit | It currently takes 1337000 xp to get from level 69 to level 70 |
| 18:21.07 | foxlit | er, 79 to 80 |
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| 19:05.18 | Fisker | and you're mad about it foxlit ? |
| 19:05.49 | Fisker | lol |
| 19:05.52 | Fisker | la noire already on 50% off |
| 19:21.21 | pompy1 | http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/tuesday-dar-3.jpg?w=500&h=473 |
| 19:22.43 | Fisker | you wouldn't pompy1 |
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| 19:32.02 | Cide | even if you shuffle daily |
| 19:32.10 | Cide | will you end up with the same deck of cards ever? |
| 19:32.32 | foxlit | hrm? |
| 19:33.37 | Cide | or the same arrangement of the cards in the deck, to be precise |
| 19:33.53 | Fisker | yes Cide |
| 19:34.07 | foxlit | if you shuffle ~30k times? |
| 19:34.12 | Cide | sure |
| 19:34.36 | foxlit | let's upper bound that |
| 19:34.44 | foxlit | 30k shuffles gets you 30k permutations |
| 19:34.52 | foxlit | there are 52! permutations in total |
| 19:35.09 | foxlit | ((52! - 30k)/(52!))^30k |
| 19:35.10 | Cide | indeed |
| 19:35.24 | Cide | it was a rhetorical question mostly (see http://www.matthewweathers.com/year2006/shuffling_cards.htm ) |
| 19:35.29 | nevcairiel | 52! is big number. :p |
| 19:35.39 | foxlit | 8.0658e+67 |
| 19:36.31 | Cide | However, in the past 700 years since playing cards were invented, cards have been shuffled less than 1.546X1023 times. So the chances that one of those times they got shuffled into the same exact order you see here are less than 1 in 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 (1 in 1044). |
| 19:36.38 | Cide | (that's 10^44) |
| 19:36.45 | Cide | and 10^23 |
| 19:37.36 | Cide | of course I'm sure the initial shuffle after having purchased a new deck of cards has shown up more than once given that the initial arrangement is the same |
| 19:37.43 | Cide | or at least I would imagine so anyway |
| 19:38.23 | nevcairiel | shuffle has a conotation of random (at least to me) sorting the cards by some pre-determined factor would of course defeat that |
| 19:41.58 | Fisker | i want to play Diablo 3 beta Cide |
| 19:43.13 | Cide | do it Fisker |
| 19:43.31 | Fisker | i can't Cide |
| 19:43.34 | Fisker | because of you |
| 19:43.42 | Cide | sorry bro |
| 19:44.03 | Fisker | and by the time it stops bugging it'll probably have used all of my money lol |
| 19:47.06 | amro | Cide: there probably have been duplicates. the math assumes random permutations, but people tend to follow certain patterns, and add to that a common starting point of a sorting deck |
| 19:47.18 | amro | sorted* |
| 19:47.35 | Cide | right |
| 19:47.54 | Cide | but once a deck has been sufficiently shuffled I believe it's pretty accurate |
| 19:48.12 | Cide | every permutation after that will be unique to a very high probability |
| 19:48.17 | Cide | s/very/extremely/ |
| 19:48.26 | Cide | fuck you purl |
| 19:48.33 | amro | owned so hard |
| 19:50.58 | Fisker | i liked it |
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| 20:12.06 | Cide | I heard you liked cats |
| 20:12.07 | Cide | https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-R4h1I26gPuo/Ts06Hd5gK-I/AAAAAAAAIqg/0CqFI7NWzyc/h301/HI8Oo.jpg |
| 20:19.58 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 20:20.25 | zenzelezz | tickles Cairenn |
| 20:20.30 | Cairenn | giggles |
| 20:20.41 | Cide | https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-R4h1I26gPuo/Ts06Hd5gK-I/AAAAAAAAIqg/0CqFI7NWzyc/s700/HI8Oo.jpg for moar pixels |
| 20:22.42 | sintAcks | does anyone know if SC2 works in the same way as WoW when installed? (I don't have to install it on another computer, I can just copy the whole thing) |
| 20:22.56 | Cide | it does |
| 20:23.02 | sintAcks | yay |
| 20:26.09 | Maldivia | hmm, anyone want to help me life saver achievement in D3 beta? |
| 20:26.15 | Cide | Shirik: ping |
| 20:26.27 | amro | if you save my life Maldivia |
| 20:26.57 | Maldivia | :) |
| 20:27.36 | Maldivia | well, I'll ress you on different char types :P |
| 20:27.51 | amro | you mean like wchar_t? |
| 20:27.57 | amro | I has no d3 |
| 20:28.05 | Fisker | i would Maldivia |
| 20:28.06 | Fisker | but oh wait |
| 20:28.06 | Maldivia | :( |
| 20:28.06 | Fisker | bam |
| 20:28.39 | sintAcks | why would you try for such an obscure achievement in D3 beta, Maldivia? |
| 20:28.57 | Maldivia | because it's the only one left to do |
| 20:32.11 | mikma | cairenn: http://imgur.com/gallery/fIi6P |
| 20:33.06 | Fisker | that's not even obscure Sintacks |
| 20:33.08 | Sintacks | Maldivia, good enough reason. lol |
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| 20:33.31 | Fisker | obscure is doing elite kills |
| 20:33.49 | Fisker | had to run the matriarch bones event 7 or 8 times before i got it |
| 20:33.59 | Fisker | without switching characters or logging out of the game |
| 20:36.20 | Cide | what about gold? |
| 20:36.27 | Cide | 10k in one single game? |
| 20:36.48 | Sintacks | so.. SC2 for half price ... is it worth it.. or will it come down more later... |
| 20:37.09 | Cide | not going to be cheaper than that I think |
| 20:37.24 | Cide | hell d2 is probably not <50% its original price |
| 20:37.36 | Sintacks | when is the expansion coming out |
| 20:37.40 | Maldivia | Cide: the 10k was easy once I had about 200% gold find :P. |
| 20:37.41 | Cide | next year |
| 20:37.43 | Sintacks | and yeah, D2 is still $40 |
| 20:37.50 | Cide | lolwut |
| 20:37.53 | Cide | hacker Maldivia |
| 20:37.54 | Sintacks | srsly |
| 20:38.00 | Cide | I have 19% on a ring but that's it |
| 20:38.06 | Sintacks | You might find it for $30. 10 for D2 and $20 for LoD |
| 20:38.24 | Cide | read: get sc2 while it's cheap |
| 20:38.29 | Cide | it's a great game |
| 20:41.59 | Fisker | hey Cide |
| 20:42.19 | Fisker | i got like 140% on the gear i snagged on the AH |
| 20:42.37 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/MAwZt.jpg |
| 20:42.39 | Fisker | get it Cide ? |
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| 20:43.25 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 20:43.44 | jnwhiteh | diablo 3 plays terribly in multiplayer |
| 20:44.11 | jnwhiteh | on my machine |
| 20:45.06 | Fisker | that's what you get for ruining my account jnwhiteh |
| 20:45.20 | jnwhiteh | your account has been ruined for a while |
| 20:45.27 | Cide | really jnwhiteh? |
| 20:45.30 | Cide | as in poor performance? |
| 20:45.35 | jnwhiteh | yeah really bad |
| 20:45.38 | Cide | that sucks |
| 20:45.43 | Cide | works really well for me |
| 20:45.44 | jnwhiteh | its fine single player |
| 20:45.46 | jnwhiteh | well |
| 20:45.47 | jnwhiteh | i'm on a mac |
| 20:45.51 | jnwhiteh | so its to be expected |
| 20:45.56 | jnwhiteh | but it shouldn't be as bad as it just wass. |
| 20:47.12 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 20:47.16 | jnwhiteh | chrome hates itself |
| 20:47.36 | Cairenn | mikma: lol |
| 20:48.07 | Maldivia | jnwhiteh: come die a few times for me in D3 beta, on 5 different classes, so I can res you and get an achievement for it :P |
| 20:48.08 | foxlit | fun: OS X kernel panics while connected to our campus WiFi |
| 20:48.19 | jnwhiteh | Maldivia: lol |
| 20:48.26 | jnwhiteh | i could do that |
| 20:48.31 | Fisker | only for a day jnwhiteh |
| 20:48.32 | jnwhiteh | dont need to be unlagged |
| 20:48.34 | jnwhiteh | but let me reboot |
| 20:48.35 | jnwhiteh | and i'll be there |
| 20:48.40 | Fisker | but atleast i got to report you for account sharing |
| 20:48.40 | Elkano | clad, why do you have beta but I don't? :( |
| 20:48.52 | Fisker | Elkano i have beta and you don't |
| 20:49.04 | Elkano | no, you don't either Fisker |
| 20:49.16 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 20:49.28 | Fisker | will just play dota 2 beta then |
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| 20:54.16 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: enjoying it? |
| 20:54.23 | Fisker | haven't played it |
| 20:54.26 | Fisker | D3 took my time |
| 20:54.27 | jnwhiteh | oh |
| 20:54.27 | Fisker | and Skyrim |
| 20:54.30 | Fisker | and Saints Row 3 |
| 20:54.31 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 20:54.33 | Fisker | and SWTOR tomorrow |
| 20:54.46 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 20:54.56 | jnwhiteh | Maldivia: logging in now |
| 20:54.59 | jnwhiteh | if you want to do it |
| 20:55.04 | Fisker | i want to do it |
| 20:55.07 | Maldivia | that would be great :P |
| 20:55.54 | Maldivia | jnwhiteh: @gmail - since I can see we haven't readded since last weekend's wipe |
| 20:55.54 | jnwhiteh | we're not friends |
| 20:55.56 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 20:56.09 | Fisker | i wish we were friends jnwhiteh :( |
| 20:56.32 | jnwhiteh | added Maldivia |
| 20:56.36 | jnwhiteh | ACCEPT EET |
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| 21:13.26 | Fisker | cries jnwhiteh |
| 21:19.28 | Cide | http://pastebin.com/UiqrXrnG -- why does this class require me to implement a copy constructor? |
| 21:19.37 | Cide | gcc bitched at me when I didn't |
| 21:19.53 | mikma | if anyone here plays battlefield 3, add me! 'hichu' :D |
| 21:20.20 | Sintacks | windowed fullscreen SC2 doesn't seem to work right ... |
| 21:20.32 | Cide | works fine for me |
| 21:20.47 | Sintacks | mouse gets stuck on SC2 and won't move away without alt+tabbing |
| 21:20.53 | Cide | that's the whole point |
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| 21:21.09 | Cide | use regular windowed mode if you don't want that |
| 21:21.19 | Sintacks | that's not what windowed fullscreen is supposed to do :| |
| 21:21.22 | Cide | yes it is |
| 21:21.31 | Cide | windowed fullscreen means you can alt+tab without the game minimizing, but otherwise captures mouse input |
| 21:22.03 | Cide | maybe wow does it differently but for sc2 the way it works is much better |
| 21:22.12 | Cide | because you can scroll the camera by mousing to the side |
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| 21:22.28 | Cide | which would be really iffy if it allowed you to scroll outside without tabbing |
| 21:22.34 | Cide | so qqmoar |
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| 21:23.56 | Azelphur | Arrowmaster: sadface, I made that forum post about the viewport issue, posted so much information and screenshots, everything they'd need to fix it |
| 21:24.06 | Azelphur | thread got locked and I pretty much got a sometime maybe never response |
| 21:24.07 | Azelphur | :< |
| 21:24.13 | Fisker | and it got locked because it was posted in the wrong section |
| 21:24.15 | Fisker | + cross postiong |
| 21:24.17 | Fisker | etc. |
| 21:24.21 | Fisker | umad? |
| 21:24.28 | Fisker | posting* |
| 21:24.35 | Azelphur | bug reports arn't meant to go in customer support forum? (Eu doesn't have a bug reports forum) |
| 21:24.55 | Fisker | not about the interface really |
| 21:25.06 | Fisker | and if they were to, you should post them in the bug report thread, not as a new thread :) |
| 21:25.45 | Azelphur | *shrug* |
| 21:26.04 | Azelphur | I was more not happy with the sometime maybe never response than the thread being locked |
| 21:26.39 | Azelphur | guess I shall just have to keep leaving every time the dungeon finder puts me in throne of the tides \o/ |
| 21:27.03 | Fisker | think the guy is just going the "lolol modified UI"-stance |
| 21:27.18 | Fisker | but realistically if they don't intend on supporting the feature they should just remove it |
| 21:27.25 | Azelphur | ^ that |
| 21:27.53 | Fisker | anyway since EU = second rate customers and shit getting/providing UI feedback is nearly useless |
| 21:27.58 | Fisker | better to just get someone post on the US forums |
| 21:28.21 | Azelphur | I've noticed that too, we don't have an API forum either |
| 21:28.32 | Fisker | we can post in that now with trial accounts |
| 21:28.56 | Azelphur | ah, that's a good step in the right direction I guess |
| 21:30.18 | Azelphur | Fisker: I have a feeling it's content inside the maps that's broken, and the map format has been reverse engineered, I bet it's fixable client side XD |
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| 21:32.14 | Fisker | can only hope they'll merge the communities now that they're apparently serious with making Diablo 3 "region-free" |
| 21:32.27 | Azelphur | idd, that would be nice |
| 21:32.42 | Azelphur | I hate not being able to play with my US friends |
| 21:32.57 | Arrow|phone | D3 region free? |
| 21:33.10 | Fisker | yes |
| 21:33.23 | Fisker | We'll be able to play on the region we want |
| 21:33.34 | Fisker | (Certain asian regions excluded) |
| 21:33.37 | Arrow|phone | So I can grief Fisker |
| 21:33.41 | mikma | ni haooooo |
| 21:33.54 | Fisker | well i would think it's probably only china |
| 21:33.59 | Xyphoid | let me guess NZ and australia will be 'south east asia' again |
| 21:34.08 | Fisker | since they're the only ones who middlefingers outside contact |
| 21:36.37 | Fisker | i hope they also make teh real id region-free soon |
| 21:39.11 | Nechckn | Off of your topic, Mr. Fisker, but.... |
| 21:39.21 | Nechckn | Finally... to use the Mac via the network from one of the MS Windows machines, have been going through supposedly 'good' ones for a while, but, man, Tiny VNC is the best! So, should anyone be looking, that has my hearty vote. |
| 21:39.40 | Maldivia | Nechckn: what OS X version ? |
| 21:39.55 | Nechckn | snow kitty |
| 21:40.16 | Fisker | mac os x versions do not work that way |
| 21:40.18 | Maldivia | ok, because Lion's VNC implementation is buggy as hell, just so you know |
| 21:40.49 | Nechckn | Yeah - that is one of a couple reasons why we are sticking with the 'old' for a bit. |
| 21:41.08 | Nechckn | A few have Lion, but those are the outliers |
| 21:41.22 | Maldivia | lion-to-lion works fine, it's win-to-lion that's totally fucked up |
| 21:41.58 | Nechckn | Heck, can even play a tiny bit of WoW over it - ehheheh |
| 21:41.58 | Maldivia | also, went ahead and installed samba on my lion, and disabled apple's own shit |
| 21:42.13 | Nechckn | Oh, really? That bad? |
| 21:42.25 | Fisker | i installed Windows |
| 21:42.34 | Fisker | didn't have to install Samba or VNC |
| 21:42.35 | Fisker | or anything |
| 21:42.39 | Maldivia | for 10.7 they implemented their own smb shit, where they used samba for 10.6 |
| 21:42.59 | Maldivia | resulting in filesharing that was unusuable from windows machines |
| 21:43.00 | Fisker | so they could patent it Maldivia ? |
| 21:43.07 | Nechckn | We have Windows on most of the machines, too, Fisker - but sometimes the cross-usage is needed or handy. |
| 21:43.20 | Maldivia | no - because samba changed to GPLv3 |
| 21:43.29 | Fisker | ah ok |
| 21:44.44 | Nechckn | Will add your thoughts to our list o' things to watch for resolution before we bother moving the ship that way. |
| 21:44.57 | Nechckn | appreciates the tidbits! |
| 21:46.42 | Maldivia | Nechckn: whne I remote from my Win to my OS X Lion - it can take 5-10 times to get past the login screen, because it freezes, and I have to reconnect |
| 21:46.54 | Maldivia | once you're last the login screen, no problems though |
| 21:49.34 | Nechckn | So not something we could outright blame on Fisker then, eh? |
| 21:50.34 | Nechckn | BTW, is this with a smaller/home net or directory-based sso/et al? |
| 21:51.09 | Maldivia | doesn't matter |
| 21:51.54 | Fisker | Stanzilla |
| 21:52.36 | Nechckn | gotcha |
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| 22:22.53 | jnwhiteh | amro: I can't click on anything in HoN |
| 22:26.32 | amro | jnwhiteh: OS? |
| 22:26.37 | jnwhiteh | fixed now |
| 22:26.37 | jnwhiteh | anyway |
| 22:26.39 | jnwhiteh | thanks =) |
| 22:26.43 | amro | I'm that good |
| 22:26.49 | jnwhiteh | ty :P |
| 22:27.40 | Stanzilla | Fisker |
| 22:27.43 | Stanzilla | d3? |
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| 22:44.42 | amro | http://java.sun.com/docs/white/langenv/Simple.doc2.html |
| 22:44.45 | amro | that's just hilarious |
| 22:44.56 | amro | "There are no means provided by which programmers can overload the standard arithmetic operators. Once again, the effects of operator overloading can be just as easily achieved by declaring a class, appropriate instance variables, and appropriate methods to manipulate those variables. Eliminating operator overloading leads to great simplification of code." |
| 22:47.35 | Cide | why "foo".equals("foo") is much more natural than "foo" == "foo" |
| 22:47.42 | Cide | and simpler and easier |
| 22:48.10 | amro | orientation = orientation * absoluteOrientation.Inverse() * qnorm * absoluteOrientation; |
| 22:48.17 | amro | I shudder to think what that line would look like in java |
| 22:48.24 | amro | those are all quaternions |
| 22:48.25 | Cide | amro did you see my question earlier about copy constructors? |
| 22:48.31 | amro | no |
| 22:48.36 | Cide | Cide: http://pastebin.com/UiqrXrnG -- why does this class require me to implement a copy constructor? |
| 22:49.03 | Cide | gcc bitched at me when I didn't |
| 22:49.11 | amro | probably because it gets used in a container somewhere |
| 22:49.13 | Cide | but it seems like the standard copy constructor should work just fine |
| 22:49.17 | Cide | yeah it does |
| 22:49.33 | Cide | but why does that imply the standard copy constructor won't do? |
| 22:49.50 | Cide | the implicit one that is |
| 22:50.22 | amro | I don't really see the issue from just that snippet, but if you declare it in the class declaration then you must also define it |
| 22:50.26 | amro | otherwise it's implicit |
| 22:50.32 | Cide | right |
| 22:50.40 | amro | what does gcc say exactly? |
| 22:51.03 | Cide | something about not being able to convert const AreaImpl& to match the other constructors |
| 22:51.29 | Cide | that was when the copy constructor was 100% implicit |
| 22:51.35 | Cide | once I added the definition and declaration it worked fine |
| 22:51.42 | Cide | since there was a matching constructor for const AreaImpl& |
| 22:51.43 | amro | where though? what line caused the issue? |
| 22:51.55 | Cide | where I used it in a container |
| 22:52.16 | Cide | unless... does defining a move constructor prevent gcc from defining an implicit copy constructor? |
| 22:52.49 | amro | nah, you have string members |
| 22:52.57 | amro | standard copy won't work with that |
| 22:52.59 | amro | at least I don't think so |
| 22:53.05 | Cide | that doesn't make sense |
| 22:53.57 | amro | try without the members |
| 22:54.05 | Cide | If the base class or any members do not have a valid visible copy constructor then the copy constructor can not be generated. This is not an error unless your code tries to use the copy constructor (then only a compile time error). |
| 22:54.39 | Cide | I guess the fact that the base class (not shown in the paste) is abstract may prevent it from being generated |
| 22:54.57 | amro | well, I was going to complain about a class called *Impl not deriving from anything |
| 22:55.19 | Cide | duh |
| 22:55.25 | Cide | oh well, that's probably it |
| 22:55.52 | amro | you left the poor bastard out of the will |
| 22:56.01 | Cide | always |
| 22:56.14 | amro | also, unless you want to die, don't use m_ |
| 22:56.31 | amro | completely unnecessary extra typing |
| 22:56.40 | Sintacks | still not sure if i want to buy SC2 or not heh |
| 22:57.21 | nevcairiel | I would buy it if they would have such an offer in europe as well! |
| 22:57.23 | Cide | Shirik forced his conventions on me |
| 22:57.31 | Cide | so I stick with that |
| 22:57.42 | amro | silly conventinos |
| 22:57.57 | nevcairiel | conventions sounds like spanish for conventions |
| 22:58.02 | nevcairiel | damn |
| 22:58.03 | amro | next thing you know, you're going to have pfzsdfgTitle and other wonderful Win32-style types |
| 22:58.04 | nevcairiel | icant even typo it |
| 22:58.05 | amro | er, names |
| 22:58.45 | Sintacks | is the NA version of SC2 actually restricted to NA ... could someone buy it and then give it to you, nevcairiel? |
| 22:58.54 | amro | it's region locked |
| 22:58.56 | nevcairiel | digital gifting is disabled |
| 22:59.02 | nevcairiel | also, i could buy the NA version myself |
| 22:59.06 | nevcairiel | but that wont do me any good! |
| 22:59.35 | Sintacks | i meant, buy the physcial one and give you the license key.. could you attach that to your battle.net account |
| 22:59.42 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 22:59.49 | amro | it would still be region locked |
| 22:59.56 | Sintacks | how so? |
| 23:00.04 | amro | can only play on NA bnet |
| 23:00.06 | nevcairiel | you would play on the NA servers |
| 23:00.17 | Sintacks | that's not that bad |
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| 23:00.31 | amro | it is actually |
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| 23:00.36 | Sintacks | same concept as some people do with having an NA WoW account when they live in EU |
| 23:00.37 | amro | dumbest move blizzard made with sc2 |
| 23:00.53 | amro | yeah except much less tangible reasons for the lockout |
| 23:00.55 | Sintacks | ah. on that point, that is quite stupid |
| 23:01.05 | Sintacks | boycott blizzard |
| 23:01.29 | amro | yeah, I'm totally not going to buy additional copies |
| 23:01.31 | Fisker | maybe it will be changed |
| 23:01.33 | nevcairiel | where else do you want to go for your games? EA? please. :P |
| 23:01.34 | amro | I'm boycotting this shit |
| 23:02.13 | Sintacks | i dont' even like having to deal with EA to play BF3 online on XBL |
| 23:04.31 | Fisker | ubisoft pls |
| 23:05.11 | amro | mo drama pls |
| 23:05.19 | amro | I forgot the last time kotick pissed me off |
| 23:05.23 | Fisker | mad? |
| 23:05.24 | amro | this is unacceptable |
| 23:05.28 | amro | I'm mad that I'm not mad |
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| 23:49.14 | Sintacks | that's killing my internet D: |
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| 23:52.58 | Fisker | you killed me Stanzilla |
| 23:53.41 | mckenziemc | you should kill eir, Fisker |
| 23:53.46 | Fisker | i wouldn't |
| 23:53.50 | Fisker | however Stanzilla |
| 23:53.52 | Fisker | i still hate you |
| 23:54.58 | Sintacks | kills Fisker |
| 23:55.07 | Fisker | you can't Sintacks |
| 23:55.18 | Sintacks | too late. arleady did |
| 23:55.25 | Fisker | nope |
| 23:59.33 | Fisker | Stanzilla |
