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| 00:26.21 | Arrowmaster | hmm post-blizzcon sal |
| 00:26.22 | Arrowmaster | sale |
| 00:27.18 | Cairenn | ? |
| 00:28.54 | Arrowmaster | just got an email about it |
| 00:29.04 | Arrowmaster | starts tomorrow at 10pm pacific |
| 00:29.10 | Arrowmaster | 10am |
| 00:36.45 | karl_w_w | sale of what? |
| 00:37.02 | Arrowmaster | blizzcon store items |
| 00:37.03 | Thunder_Child | items |
| 00:37.53 | karl_w_w | there's a blizzcon store? :P |
| 00:38.02 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 00:38.16 | Cairenn | Which is actually annoying for those of us who had 'special' tickets - they aren't associated with our accounts, so we can't take advantage of the pre- or post-BC sales |
| 00:38.39 | Thunder_Child | where do you think you can buy a sparkle pony from? |
| 00:38.50 | Arrowmaster | want me to order something for you? |
| 00:38.57 | Cairenn | naw |
| 00:39.00 | syrae | Washington. They breed sparkly vampires there |
| 00:39.14 | Arrowmaster | the 3 people that i bought tickets for couldnt use the pre-sale either |
| 00:39.21 | karl_w_w | from the blizzard store Thunder_Child |
| 00:40.10 | Thunder_Child | karl_w_w: it's the same place. Just a different section |
| 00:40.23 | Arrowmaster | even though when i registered the tickets for them it even asked for their email address |
| 00:40.27 | Arrowmaster | was kinda silly |
| 00:40.32 | syrae | OMG HIS HAND WTF?!? http://i.imgur.com/6OBrk.jpg |
| 00:41.35 | Thunder_Child | looks like failshop |
| 00:41.42 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 00:43.08 | Corrodias | oh good, i wanted some new nouveau |
| 00:43.14 | Thunder_Child | Also, "Vaseline for Men" has somewhat of a different connotation |
| 00:43.15 | Corrodias | i was running out of nouveau |
| 00:56.46 | bluspacecow | i would take part in blizzcon sales if the shipping wasn't so gouging |
| 00:57.03 | bluspacecow | wanted to buy the D3 rainbox t-shirt but zomg shipping tooo expensive |
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| 01:34.19 | Kraps | OH YOU CAN CHANGE THE WIDTH OF THE GMAIL THINGS |
| 01:34.24 | Kraps | not so bad |
| 01:34.54 | Thunder_Child | caps much Kraps? |
| 01:36.29 | Kraps | accident |
| 01:36.42 | Thunder_Child | also, define thing? |
| 01:37.03 | mckenziemc | ~dict thing |
| 01:37.12 | Sintacks | how long does it normally take for the Scroll of Resurrection Status page to update when the res'd account pays for a month ... |
| 01:40.53 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: the conversations/emails |
| 01:41.15 | Kraps | the "display density" |
| 01:45.02 | Kraps | argh http://i.imgur.com/EcEUJ.png |
| 01:46.17 | Sintacks | wtf are hashed and salted passwords |
| 01:47.19 | Kraps | hash browns vs salt |
| 01:47.41 | Arrowmaster | the password and a salt are combined and then hashed using a one way hash and stored |
| 01:47.43 | Kraps | different food makes pw's arc different |
| 01:48.03 | Sintacks | wtf is a salt |
| 01:48.25 | Arrowmaster | normally about 16-32bits of random data |
| 01:48.31 | Sintacks | o |
| 01:50.56 | Arrowmaster | the idea is that having random data for each hash makes it impossible to use rainbow tables on the entire database at once |
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| 01:52.06 | Arrowmaster | for idiotic implementations that just use one salt for all users its trivial to attack the entire database at once with a rainbow table for that specific salt |
| 01:52.54 | Arrowmaster | but with a proper salt the attacker will likely have to bruteforce each password which is slow |
| 01:53.16 | Shirik | Cide, is "så" silent? |
| 01:53.41 | Shirik | or optional? |
| 01:58.18 | Cide | no |
| 02:00.28 | Shirik | Cide: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=701P9m-4mUQ&t=0m53s |
| 02:00.59 | Shirik | why does he not say it? |
| 02:00.59 | Shirik | or maybe the lyrics are wrong |
| 02:08.24 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScJr65nhshY&feature=youtu.be |
| 02:17.08 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: thats height, not width |
| 02:17.52 | bluspacecow | http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/tools/ea93/?cpg=y |
| 02:18.29 | Kraps | you seem to be feeling particularly pedantic tonight |
| 02:19.21 | mckenziemc | oh, welcome back Cairenn |
| 02:19.27 | Cairenn | thanks mckenziemc |
| 02:29.23 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: i do my best to be pedantic every night, i just dont always manage it. |
| 02:29.44 | Kraps | i see |
| 02:29.57 | karl_w_w | Thunder_Child: I* |
| 02:30.03 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: and the reason i was specific is because i actually want the ability to change width |
| 02:30.10 | Thunder_Child | karl_w_w: yes |
| 02:30.38 | Kraps | stay out of this karl_w_w |
| 02:32.55 | Cide | the lyrics are wrong, Shirik |
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| 02:42.51 | Ackis | hi Cairenn welcome back |
| 02:42.56 | Cairenn | thanks Ackis |
| 02:43.16 | Ackis | I heard you got cooties at blizzcon! |
| 02:43.21 | Cairenn | heh |
| 02:43.33 | Ackis | I got married! |
| 02:43.41 | Cairenn | Yeah, congrats :) |
| 02:43.49 | Ackis | thanks! |
| 02:43.53 | kd3 | grr |
| 02:43.56 | kd3 | changes his steam password |
| 02:50.28 | Wobin | https://twitter.com/?photo_id=1#!/subcircle/status/134266795849826305/photo/1/large |
| 02:50.33 | Wobin | why keming is important |
| 02:53.09 | kd3 | lol |
| 02:53.56 | Shirik | so |
| 02:54.06 | Shirik | I ran a script on the wikipedia database to find all talk pages that don't have an article |
| 02:54.09 | Shirik | it found this |
| 02:54.11 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:A_bee_pull_300_times_its_weigt_if_a_person_could_pull_a_load_in_this_same_proportion_how_many_pounds_could_a_200_pound_man_pull_show_visually_or_with_concrete_materials |
| 02:54.30 | Shirik | ~wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:A_bee_pull_300_times_its_weigt_if_a_person_could_pull_a_load_in_this_same_proportion_how_many_pounds_could_a_200_pound_man_pull_show_visually_or_with_concrete_materials |
| 02:54.35 | Shirik | oops |
| 02:55.01 | kd3 | I saw it but it just got deleted |
| 02:55.01 | Thunder_Child | well thats retarded |
| 02:55.11 | kd3 | "300 times of a bees wieght thats what a bee can pull. how much would a 2 00 pond man pull if he was a 200 pound bee" |
| 02:55.19 | kd3 | ^ entire content of that talk page |
| 02:55.19 | Thunder_Child | ~200x300 |
| 02:55.19 | Shirik | yeah I'm working with Earwig :P |
| 02:55.25 | Thunder_Child | ~200 x 300 |
| 02:55.35 | Thunder_Child | damit purl! |
| 02:55.39 | kd3 | lua>200*300 |
| 02:55.44 | lua_bot | kd3: 60000 |
| 02:55.44 | Shirik | it's a * you fool |
| 02:55.46 | Thunder_Child | ~200*300 |
| 02:55.47 | purl | 60000 |
| 02:55.56 | Thunder_Child | thats purls fault, not me |
| 02:56.12 | Thunder_Child | also Shirik, i read that in the professors voice |
| 02:56.40 | Thunder_Child | so, now we can answer the page |
| 03:00.46 | Thunder_Child | does it seem silly to anyone else that this list doe not link to the users page? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_Wikipedians_by_article_count |
| 03:00.54 | Thunder_Child | does* |
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| 03:18.27 | alestane | huggles the ever-lovin' stuffing out of Cairenn. But gently. |
| 03:18.34 | Cairenn | hugs alestane |
| 03:19.33 | bluspacecow | BBL |
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| 03:28.27 | pompy | Arrowmaster: getting skyrim tonight? |
| 03:28.43 | Arrowmaster | no, have to pick it up tomorrow |
| 03:29.02 | Iriel | i cant decide on a platform for it |
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| 03:29.31 | pompy | i havent finished oblivion yet..should i wait? |
| 03:29.32 | Stanzilla | won't buy it :o |
| 03:30.04 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: PC, the mods will make it worth it |
| 03:30.52 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: But will playing on my TV beat the PC mod support? |
| 03:31.04 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: output to your tv? |
| 03:31.21 | Arrowmaster | i preordered for xbox but ill probably end up getting it for pc sometime in the future, probably on steam |
| 03:31.31 | Iriel | The PC isn't really portable and isn't in the right room |
| 03:31.42 | Thunder_Child | i can only imagine you get better control on a keyboard/mouse than a controller |
| 03:31.54 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: wireless HDMI streaming |
| 03:32.42 | pompy | Arrowmaster: getting ac:revelations too? |
| 03:32.49 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 03:32.52 | pompy | http://gamerant.com/assassins-creed-revelations-launch-trailer-robk-115591/ ! |
| 03:32.53 | Iriel | Probably, but often games have different control schemes for controllers so it's not necessarily comparable |
| 03:34.00 | pompy | Arrowmaster: i wonder how those 3d glasses will work lol. |
| 03:34.28 | Iriel | Oh yeah, my TV has 3d too, if the game supports it, does it? |
| 03:34.33 | Arrowmaster | what 3d glasses? |
| 03:35.00 | pompy | "and a pair of TriOviz 3D glasses for Xbox 360 and PS3 versions, enabling 3D gameplay on most 2D HDTVs. " |
| 03:35.04 | pompy | preorder bonus |
| 03:35.25 | pompy | apparently they are only 50 cents.. |
| 03:35.35 | Thunder_Child | why do i have my doubts about that item |
| 03:36.21 | pompy | http://the3dmarket.com/products/trioviz-3d |
| 03:36.27 | Arrowmaster | still have no idea what you are quoting from |
| 03:36.41 | pompy | http://www.amazon.com/Assassins-Creed-Revelations-Xbox-360/dp/B002I08RA0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1320978860&sr=8-1 |
| 03:36.45 | pompy | that |
| 03:37.34 | Thunder_Child | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereoscopy#Inficolor_3D interesting, seems to bypass the TV hardware |
| 03:37.43 | Arrowmaster | oh im not getting it from amazon, but sounds like old school red/blue glasses but probably one of the slightly newer types |
| 03:37.57 | pompy | where from? |
| 03:38.19 | Thunder_Child | it more or less is Arrowmaster. |
| 03:38.21 | Arrowmaster | gamestop, for the signature edition |
| 03:38.33 | Arrowmaster | wait wtf |
| 03:38.47 | Arrowmaster | "It works with traditional 2D flat screens and HDTV sets and uses glasses with complex color filters and dedicated image processing that allow natural color perception with a pleasant 3D experience." |
| 03:38.58 | Arrowmaster | "dedicated image processing" |
| 03:39.01 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck? |
| 03:39.14 | Thunder_Child | http://us.trioviz.com/en/consumer/3d-glasses/inficolor-3d-glasses |
| 03:39.47 | Thunder_Child | i think the processor is built into the console |
| 03:40.03 | Arrowmaster | its not |
| 03:40.26 | Arrowmaster | unless this has some hardware that sits between the console and the tv |
| 03:40.38 | pompy | Arrowmaster: hm the other thing thats the same in both preorder bonuses seems to be the soundtrack |
| 03:41.30 | Arrowmaster | amazon is a download for the soundtrack |
| 03:41.41 | Arrowmaster | gamestop i think has a physical disc |
| 03:41.44 | Thunder_Child | onyl a few games seem to support it anyway |
| 03:41.56 | Torhal | http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-we-ruined-occupy-wall-street-generation/ <-- truth |
| 03:44.03 | pompy | damn, "tough decision" lol :x, pay $64.19 because of tax, at gamestop.. or $58.99 on amazon |
| 03:44.54 | Thunder_Child | well, you wont have to worry about it soon |
| 03:45.28 | Kraps | http://i.imgur.com/QNDBa.png |
| 03:47.10 | pompy | Arrowmaster: gamestop will accept a return of a sealed copy of a preorder and not care if you did anything with the preorder bonuses? |
| 03:47.33 | Arrowmaster | pompy: gamestop has a completely different edition of the game |
| 03:47.53 | Arrowmaster | the bonuses are inside the box |
| 03:48.08 | pompy | thats right |
| 03:48.22 | Fisker | it's bad |
| 03:48.31 | Fisker | We learned that intruders obtained access to a Steam database in addition to the forums. This database contained information including user names, hashed and salted passwords, game purchases, email addresses, billing addresses and encrypted credit card information. We do not have evidence that encrypted credit card numbers or personally identifying information were taken by the intruders, or that the protection on credit card numbers or |
| 03:48.31 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:48.32 | Fisker | :( |
| 03:48.58 | pompy | scroll up Fisker! |
| 03:49.06 | Fisker | never |
| 03:50.08 | pompy | i wish if u bought a digital copy of a game on amazon, u could activate it in steam :x |
| 03:50.50 | Thunder_Child | or even a physical copy |
| 03:51.22 | mckenziemc | oh my Fisker |
| 03:51.30 | Fisker | i wish i could activate copies of games i already have |
| 03:51.32 | mckenziemc | what are you doing up so early |
| 03:51.36 | Fisker | and then add them as steam gifts so i can trade them |
| 03:51.48 | Corrodias | i see Ubisoft has decided to use their "online services platform" again |
| 03:52.36 | Arrowmaster | so the cracked article torhal linked |
| 03:52.53 | Arrowmaster | "The rest of your music came from Wal-Mart, who by the way didn't sell the uncensored version of any record, and you usually didn't know that until you got home and played it." |
| 03:52.57 | Arrowmaster | AND THEY STILL DONT! |
| 03:53.49 | alestane | The girls come easy and the dr*** come cheap. |
| 03:53.55 | Fisker | i hope i get free gaems for my leaked infos |
| 03:54.20 | Corrodias | according to RPS, Ubisoft told them that Revelations won't have the constant internet connection requirement |
| 03:55.28 | Thunder_Child | i'm going to pull a Fisker and say "What, a big game company lied?!?!" "NO WAY" |
| 03:56.39 | Corrodias | no, i mean, the "ubisoft online services platform" does not necessarily require a constant connection -- they can and have turned that off for other games, like AC2 |
| 03:57.25 | Corrodias | the point of the article was that it'll still use the activation system, but won't have that requirement |
| 03:57.42 | Fisker | sup Thunder_Child ? |
| 03:58.50 | Thunder_Child | yo Fisker, dont mind me |
| 03:58.51 | Corrodias | i'm sure the preorder carrots on a stick are cool, but really, -another- asscreed game? it can wait for a sale. -_- waaay in the future. |
| 03:59.39 | Torhal | Cairenn: http://i.imgur.com/sg10D.jpg |
| 03:59.49 | Cairenn | lol |
| 03:59.56 | Thunder_Child | i usually pass on that style of game myself |
| 04:01.38 | Fisker | you seem mad Thunder_Child |
| 04:02.44 | Thunder_Child | not the last time i checked Fisker |
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| 04:24.40 | Sintacks | Why did so many people want MMR reset? |
| 04:25.54 | Moolgar | lol, no idea ^^ im a shaman |
| 04:25.58 | Moolgar | hey, i try find a "decent" event i can use to check if raid member is dead . i tryed to use UNIT_PORTRAIT_UPDATE, but it didnt fire for some reason when i died and relised. do i need to use UNIT_AURA ? or is there some event that dont fire that often i can use ? |
| 04:28.19 | Sintacks | is there not a "player died" event |
| 04:28.49 | Moolgar | i think there is, but i think that only fire when u die ur self, not when raid member die |
| 04:28.59 | alestane | There is, I think, although it may be a little weird. |
| 04:29.37 | Sintacks | if party1'shealth = 0 dead |
| 04:30.05 | Sintacks | in whatever event updates health for frames |
| 04:30.10 | Sintacks | that would be so CPU intensive |
| 04:30.11 | Sintacks | lol |
| 04:30.40 | Moolgar | well, its the event i looking for, unit_health go on like all the way in bg |
| 04:30.53 | Moolgar | so that wont be the best i think, tho maby dont have any choice |
| 04:32.12 | Wobin | Fisker: How to steal in Skyrim http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt5aUdijAN8 |
| 04:32.19 | Wobin | sorry, in here is busier =P |
| 04:33.39 | alestane | There's UNIT_HEALTH, or there might be a message in COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED. |
| 04:35.17 | Moolgar | i tryed to find it in combat_log_event_unfiltered alestane, but i dont find it there. :S i probably have to go for UNIT_HEALTH even tho that fire 5 billion times in battleground ;P |
| 04:36.53 | Moolgar | there should be event i could use when "player relise from body to ghost" |
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| 04:38.20 | pompy | Xinhuan: grats on the release |
| 04:41.35 | Moolgar | there is buff u get tho "waiting to resurrect" with spellId : 2584 , but that never seem to pop up in COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED for some reason, maby its because the player is dead it wont show, :S |
| 04:49.09 | pompy | http://gamerant.com/smartphones-mobile-games-apple-android-row-115661/ |
| 05:01.06 | karl_w_w | Moolgar why dont u see how some raidframes detect deadness |
| 05:01.43 | Moolgar | thats a good idea, thx |
| 05:01.52 | karl_w_w | there is a unit_died in combat log event though |
| 05:03.07 | Moolgar | :o didnt see that one on wiki :) cheers, i'll try use it, thx a lot karl_w_w |
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| 06:03.30 | pompy | zomg http://store.steampowered.com/news/6734/ |
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| 06:37.19 | Fisker | i lol'd Wobin |
| 06:42.05 | mckenziemc | oh, i thought you'd fallen asleep |
| 06:47.44 | Fisker | just gotta hurrdurr |
| 06:48.01 | Fisker | They're talking about smartphones in TV |
| 06:48.21 | Fisker | and this guy is like "Windows phone 7 is so awesome because you can see information on your homescreen!!!!!!!!!!11111111" |
| 06:48.28 | Fisker | i'm like, widgets? |
| 06:51.10 | Stanzilla | I'm seeing things Fisker |
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| 06:52.03 | ccox | *hugs* Cairenn |
| 06:52.10 | Cairenn | hugs ccox |
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| 06:56.30 | router54___ | Is there any API to check how many spells are in the spellbook? |
| 06:56.56 | router54___ | I'm trying to enumerate over them all to check cooldowns. The new API for checking spell name errors if you pass it a number higher than the total spells available. |
| 06:57.13 | router54___ | So a while true do ... break end loop errors once i gets too hig |
| 06:57.28 | Sintacks | you could do a loop to count them couldn't you? |
| 06:57.32 | Sintacks | and hide the error |
| 06:57.38 | router54___ | That's dirty |
| 06:57.42 | Sintacks | true |
| 06:57.46 | Sintacks | but dirty is more fun |
| 06:58.05 | router54___ | Plus my code relies on it hitting the edge to detect when to update the visual elements |
| 06:58.15 | Sintacks | o.O |
| 06:58.16 | router54___ | It'd have to become very hackish to get past an error |
| 06:59.01 | router54___ | Wait nevermind. I forgot to initiate "i" after converting it from a for i=... loop. I'm dumb. |
| 07:00.17 | mckenziemc | i thought there was a function that tells you how many there are |
| 07:01.34 | router54___ | I thought so too |
| 07:01.46 | router54___ | But WoWWiki even recommend using an infinite loop and breaking when you get a nil result |
| 07:02.42 | router54___ | Ahh. Nothing like no errors appearing but nothing showing up. I think I'm gonna run into more trouble. >.> |
| 07:02.45 | mckenziemc | hmm that's what my old addon did |
| 07:03.02 | karl_w_w | "In the weeks ahead, we will be discontinuing the Java-based (J2ME) versions of the Battle.net Mobile Authenticator" strange decisions |
| 07:05.30 | router54___ | Does that include the Android app? |
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| 07:29.01 | Ackis | hmmm what special stuff do I get in the skyrim CE that's not in the normal one? |
| 07:30.18 | Sintacks | google |
| 07:30.43 | Fisker | nice things Stanzilla ? |
| 07:32.23 | pompy | Ackis: http://www.amazon.com/Elder-Scrolls-Skyrim-Collectors-Xbox-360/dp/B0050SYNYQ/ref=sr_1_12?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1320739108&sr=1-12 |
| 07:35.37 | Ackis | nothing in game :( /sigh |
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| 07:41.00 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 07:41.06 | bluspacecow | oh hai |
| 07:41.10 | Fisker | however not hey Ackis for playing xbawks version of skyrim |
| 07:42.51 | pompy | Fisker: he got the pc one afaik, i just linked the 360 one bc amazon has links to each version on teh same page |
| 07:43.01 | Fisker | baw |
| 07:43.07 | Fisker | i doubt it |
| 07:43.13 | Fisker | Ackis would never get the pc version :( |
| 07:44.45 | Ackis | Fisker: actually I got the PC version |
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| 07:45.37 | Ackis | it's downloading on steam right now |
| 07:45.45 | Fisker | lol |
| 07:45.46 | Fisker | right now |
| 07:45.49 | Fisker | you're slow :( |
| 07:46.07 | Ackis | I just got it from the midnight release about 45 minutes ago :P |
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| 07:48.42 | Fisker | why not just install it then? |
| 07:48.46 | Fisker | dude pls |
| 07:49.05 | Fisker | you're messing with my head |
| 07:49.51 | Ackis | you can install it from the disc and not just activate it on steam?! |
| 07:51.00 | Fisker | The installer from disk integrates with Steam |
| 07:51.07 | Fisker | it's a steamworks game |
| 07:55.16 | Thunder_Child | so it prompts you to install in the correct place if it detects steam Fisker? |
| 07:55.33 | Ackis | meh it's still downloading |
| 07:55.39 | Fisker | it can only install in Steam Thunder_Child |
| 07:55.50 | Fisker | if you don't have it, it will just install it for you |
| 07:55.57 | Thunder_Child | ah |
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| 08:02.36 | pompy | i wish i could put hte bad company 2 i bought on amazon, into steam |
| 08:04.21 | bluspacecow | http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=25hflv7&s=5 |
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| 08:38.34 | Fisker | Intel i7-2600k 3.4 ghz (3.8ghz OTB) - $329.99 |
| 08:38.34 | Fisker | Asus Rampage III ATX intel motherboard - $299.99 |
| 08:38.36 | Fisker | not sure if srs |
| 08:41.02 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 08:41.05 | Corrodias | that seems a little high for a 2600k |
| 08:41.14 | Fisker | Corrodias pls |
| 08:41.21 | Corrodias | maybe not, maybe i'm remembering something else |
| 08:41.37 | Corrodias | yeah, i think i'm thinking of my last processor, $260 range |
| 08:41.39 | Fisker | plsssss |
| 08:42.01 | Fisker | how is he going to fit a i7-2600k in a motherboard with an LGA1366 socket in it? |
| 08:42.16 | Corrodias | with a big hammer |
| 08:42.23 | TC-Away | with a small mallet |
| 08:42.26 | Fisker | i need to be able to post on the us forums so i can point it out :( |
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| 09:02.20 | karl_w_w | why are intel sockets given such crazy names |
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| 09:05.28 | Fisker | what do you mean karl_w_w ? |
| 09:05.47 | Fisker | you mean why they aren't branded? |
| 09:06.13 | karl_w_w | i mean why do they have these crazy names! :P |
| 09:06.49 | Fisker | because they describe what kind of socket it is |
| 09:06.49 | karl_w_w | I mean LGA1366? horrible |
| 09:07.27 | Fisker | yusomad? |
| 09:07.54 | karl_w_w | i dont know why my madness level is so low |
| 09:08.18 | Fisker | oh u |
| 09:08.40 | Fisker | Atleast it's better than calling it something retarded like AM3+ Socket or whatever amd uses |
| 09:09.10 | karl_w_w | AM3+ is too hard to remember? |
| 09:09.23 | mckenziemc | >< |
| 09:09.25 | Fisker | how many pins does a AM3+ socket have karl_w_w ? |
| 09:09.38 | mckenziemc | 3+ |
| 09:09.45 | Fisker | exact number pls |
| 09:10.04 | Fisker | also what kind of pin configuration is it? |
| 09:10.10 | bluspacecow | pi |
| 09:10.13 | karl_w_w | 492 |
| 09:10.15 | bluspacecow | is the exact number |
| 09:10.23 | Fisker | no bluspacecow |
| 09:10.26 | Fisker | and no karl_w_w |
| 09:10.38 | bluspacecow | u mad ? |
| 09:10.41 | Fisker | umad |
| 09:10.53 | karl_w_w | oh yeah |
| 09:10.56 | karl_w_w | 942* |
| 09:10.58 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 09:11.04 | karl_w_w | i was close... in a way |
| 09:11.13 | Fisker | k |
| 09:11.23 | mckenziemc | are there multiple AMD sockets with 942 pins? |
| 09:11.38 | karl_w_w | no |
| 09:11.55 | karl_w_w | why does it matter how many pins there are Fisker? |
| 09:12.04 | Fisker | umad? |
| 09:12.36 | karl_w_w | not at all |
| 09:12.38 | karl_w_w | u? |
| 09:12.42 | Fisker | nope |
| 09:12.56 | mckenziemc | stuffs Fisker into a Karma socket. |
| 09:13.24 | karl_w_w | so, why pins matter? :P |
| 09:13.47 | Fisker | why branding matter? |
| 09:13.57 | karl_w_w | its not branding |
| 09:14.00 | Fisker | yes it is |
| 09:15.07 | bluspacecow | iOs 5.0.1 update just hit |
| 09:15.34 | Fisker | old news |
| 09:15.36 | Fisker | it hit yesterday |
| 09:15.41 | Fisker | BOOM |
| 09:15.53 | karl_w_w | Fisker: fail branding makes me sad |
| 09:16.02 | Fisker | yes |
| 09:16.10 | Fisker | that's why LGA1366 is so awesome |
| 09:17.09 | karl_w_w | awesome? |
| 09:17.16 | Fisker | yep |
| 09:17.30 | karl_w_w | have you redefined awesome? |
| 09:17.40 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 09:17.53 | karl_w_w | or are you using the literal definition |
| 09:18.06 | karl_w_w | I am in awe over how bad it is |
| 09:18.53 | Fisker | why is it bad? |
| 09:19.53 | karl_w_w | it's unmemorable and redundantly long |
| 09:20.05 | mckenziemc | i suppose we should find better names for IEEE 754 etc too |
| 09:20.14 | karl_w_w | we should! |
| 09:20.27 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 09:20.33 | karl_w_w | me too |
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| 09:20.46 | Fisker | with all the mixing and matching between the AMxx sockets it's more confusing there |
| 09:20.47 | Fisker | :3 |
| 09:20.48 | karl_w_w | most of them already have better names |
| 09:21.19 | karl_w_w | explain Fisker |
| 09:21.51 | Fisker | Like AM3 CPU's being compatible with AM2, etc. |
| 09:22.11 | amro | also, AMD bought ATi |
| 09:22.12 | amro | forever tainted |
| 09:22.29 | karl_w_w | what has that to do with the naming? |
| 09:23.12 | karl_w_w | i dont even know if there are any intel chips in the same situation as that, but a different naming scheme wouldnt make it any different |
| 09:24.39 | Fisker | no and it doesn't need one either :3 |
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| 09:30.18 | Kalroth | http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/35a0gt/ :D |
| 09:40.18 | Fisker | i lol'd |
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| 13:17.30 | xanax` | Does somone use XPBarNone ? |
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| 13:30.32 | acethebunny | that they are |
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| 13:59.52 | Lopeppeppy | 216 pounds of furniture will arrive today. I sincerely hope the company was correct in that it will be delivered to my second floor front door.... |
| 14:00.54 | acethebunny | hahaha |
| 14:01.58 | bluspacecow | how about 2.16 pounds of butter delivered to your basement ? |
| 14:02.30 | Lopeppeppy | I don't have a basement, but i'll freeze it for making cookies |
| 14:02.43 | acethebunny | for some reason, bluspacecow just reminded me to check my scroll of res status |
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| 14:03.34 | acethebunny | kewl. my brother coming back pays for a month of my game time. |
| 14:03.35 | acethebunny | i love that |
| 14:03.50 | acethebunny | and it counts towards the anual pass |
| 14:03.54 | acethebunny | annual* |
| 14:04.11 | Lopeppeppy | christmas comes early these days |
| 14:04.43 | acethebunny | lol |
| 14:06.29 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: If they were wrong, you should get an interesting workout |
| 14:07.40 | Lopeppeppy | Yeeah. I'll take it apart to haul it upstairs, I guess. Have sonic screwdriver, will travel. |
| 14:07.41 | alestane | http://www.commissionedcomic.com/?p=4383, Peppy |
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| 14:17.25 | Shirik | what |
| 14:17.36 | Shirik | aren't you supposed to set up your decorations after thanksgiving? |
| 14:17.52 | Shirik | like that is the law in my family, day after thanksgiving is the day decorations go up |
| 14:18.23 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly, Shirik. Black Friday is the day to decorate. After the November holiday is done. |
| 14:18.37 | Shirik | but that's in november |
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| 14:19.07 | Lopeppeppy | Well, November can feel like he did all of his work, after Thanksgiving is over, and he can rest with a full belly to let people get on with things, I think. |
| 14:19.43 | acethebunny | Elkano, did you get buff bars workin for 4.3? i haven't checked for any beta or alpha activity |
| 14:21.15 | Shirik | Also, I have to say, I think August is the worst month |
| 14:21.22 | Shirik | what's in august? |
| 14:22.03 | Elkano | didn't install PTR so no, not yet. but iirc it's a bug in LibAbacus and not EBB itself |
| 14:23.18 | Stanzilla | where is EBB3, Elkano? :P |
| 14:23.21 | bluspacecow | http://cuteoverload.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/5910354290_1505118f80_z.jpg?w=560&h=373 |
| 14:23.42 | Kalroth | too much cute, must stab someone to balance |
| 14:23.54 | Kalroth | stabs Fisker with a carrot |
| 14:24.40 | bluspacecow | fisker Carrot with a fisker |
| 14:24.48 | Lopeppeppy | I'm glad for months without holidays. Although my holidays are not yours, Shirik, so I have one in August. :P |
| 14:25.24 | acethebunny | Stanzilla, it's in the future. go there and bring it back for us. |
| 14:25.38 | Stanzilla | ok brb |
| 14:26.09 | amro | Shirik: does msvc10 get any updates? |
| 14:26.25 | Shirik | sure |
| 14:26.31 | Shirik | I don't no of any recently |
| 14:26.35 | Shirik | but I know it had SP1 |
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| 14:29.22 | Shirik | "The 156-12 vote took place after respected economist Mario Monti — widely expected to become the interim prime minister — was welcomed with applause in the Senate chamber, where he was officially designated senator for life." |
| 14:29.26 | amro | I want for (auto x : y) support |
| 14:29.29 | Shirik | You can become "senator for life" what? |
| 14:31.07 | bluspacecow | its where they kill you then stuff you and put your preserved body on display on a stick in the council chambers |
| 14:31.53 | amro | Shirik: I think it's one of the posts Berlusconi created, along with "PM for life". |
| 14:32.04 | Shirik | why would you do that |
| 14:32.22 | amro | because you're an old man with a penchant for young girls and booze and don't want to get booted out of office |
| 14:33.02 | Lopeppeppy | because you want your country to wither and rot |
| 14:33.02 | Shirik | he should be like me |
| 14:33.29 | Shirik | trading S&P contracts for profit |
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| 14:33.33 | Shirik | just as corrupt |
| 14:33.35 | Shirik | not as illegal |
| 14:34.28 | amro | or, you can buy the parliament, and get to decide what's illegal |
| 14:41.58 | alestane | I suspect Berlusconi will be perfectly content to sit back, make enormous pots of money and organize "hookers & blow" parties. |
| 14:42.24 | Lopeppeppy | No one has crack and vodka parties anymore, it's quite depressing. |
| 14:43.28 | amro | mostly because you can't have sex with crack, unlike hookers |
| 14:43.31 | bluspacecow | i call them ricies parties |
| 14:43.35 | bluspacecow | snap crackle and pop! |
| 14:43.49 | bluspacecow | Peppy |
| 14:43.58 | bluspacecow | Lopeppeppy of the too many P's |
| 14:44.08 | bluspacecow | i want to deliver your furniture |
| 14:44.16 | bluspacecow | in little 2.16 KG boxes |
| 14:44.33 | bluspacecow | stacked in geomatrically pleasing shapes on your lawn |
| 14:44.35 | Lopeppeppy | many people have sex with crack. *snark* |
| 14:44.49 | Lopeppeppy | bluspacecow, you are extremely welcome to do so, IF I can put it back together afterward. :) |
| 14:45.21 | bluspacecow | and if not ? i;ll be on the other side of the world by the time you wake up ! |
| 14:46.41 | Lopeppeppy | ... allow me to point out my awake and alert state? You're not the only person I know on the other side of the world. You could find a kangaroo waiting to kick your ass. |
| 14:46.50 | Lopeppeppy | .... it's here!!!!!! |
| 14:47.04 | alestane | W00t! |
| 14:47.50 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 14:47.53 | bluspacecow | the kangaroo ? |
| 14:47.59 | bluspacecow | *looks around fearfuilly* |
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| 14:59.25 | Lopeppeppy | Me, shoving a 200 pound box around, is kind of funny in a chiropractic sort of way |
| 15:00.47 | karl_w_w | freaks |
| 15:00.53 | karl_w_w | christmas is in december |
| 15:01.32 | karl_w_w | gotta be a sad life living from one holiday to the next |
| 15:04.53 | Torhal | wonders how Lopeppeppy manages to buy vodka from crack dealers. |
| 15:15.40 | bluspacecow | *kiss* *kiss* *bats eyes* |
| 15:15.43 | bluspacecow | thats how |
| 15:16.08 | karl_w_w | that's troubling blu |
| 15:16.40 | bluspacecow | they are astounded by her beauty |
| 15:17.27 | Lopeppeppy | For serious. |
| 15:21.40 | bluspacecow | i sleepy peppy |
| 15:25.03 | bt | string.len( ) and/or string.sub() seems not to count all letters equal, tried to break a string into parts by simple cutting with string.sub(source,start,end) and im getting half the lenght if ( )<> is in it, is there an easy fix? |
| 15:28.25 | mitch0 | doesn't understand |
| 15:29.09 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 15:29.50 | bt | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:33.42 | sylvanaar_work | purl: we need to breed you with cleverbot |
| 15:34.12 | sylvanaar_work | kicks purl |
| 15:35.01 | Ackis | purl should breed with Fisker |
| 15:35.34 | mitch0 | lua> s = ">this< is a test"; print(s:sub(1, s:len())); |
| 15:35.36 | lua_bot | mitch0: >this< is a test |
| 15:35.40 | mitch0 | bt: ? |
| 15:36.07 | bt | was to lazy but used len in it |
| 15:36.23 | bt | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:36.27 | mitch0 | but you can see in the above example that it still returns the whole thing |
| 15:36.30 | mitch0 | what is your issue? |
| 15:36.36 | mitch0 | continues to not understand |
| 15:36.55 | mitch0 | wanders off |
| 15:37.05 | bt | na second thest it doenst return all of it |
| 15:37.11 | bt | if i use special characters it cuts earlier off |
| 15:37.40 | sylvanaar_work | Ackis: cleverbot is a lot like Fisker |
| 15:37.46 | bt | ah sorry |
| 15:37.53 | bt | wrong explanation |
| 15:40.14 | sylvanaar_work | Ackis: see http://pastebin.com/CiJug5Qn |
| 15:40.32 | Ackis | lol |
| 15:40.46 | bt | im not using lenght i used a set value as i wanted to cut a string in lines so i had to take substring every n letters, problem was that the substrings turned out different lenght |
| 15:40.48 | bt | but i think you gave me the right idea, i will just go with math.floor(s:len()/n) |
| 15:41.11 | bt | should work no matter the language |
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| 15:44.56 | Lopeppeppy | Wait. Working from home. I can has MUSICS!!!!!! |
| 15:46.30 | Torhal | bt: http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaUnicode |
| 15:46.37 | Torhal | There's your issue. Your "special characters". |
| 15:46.42 | Torhal | finishes getting ready for work. |
| 15:47.22 | bluspacecow | *sleeps on Peppy's Stereo* |
| 15:47.28 | bluspacecow | u mad ? |
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| 15:50.04 | bluspacecow | sleepy tiems nows |
| 15:50.15 | Lopeppeppy | Goodnight dear, thank you for the furniture. |
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| 15:56.19 | bt | tohal: thanks for the link, read trough and found my solution with it |
| 15:56.27 | bt | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:58.04 | Dagmar | What the hell is this madness |
| 15:58.11 | Dagmar | Skyrim doesn't require quad 560 cards? |
| 15:58.19 | Dagmar | *pURCHASe* |
| 15:58.29 | sylvanaar_work | ! |
| 15:58.29 | acethebunny | no. just quad 550s |
| 15:59.14 | Dagmar | Tom's hardware is showing benchmarks of like 35fps on a GeForce 430 for pete's sake |
| 15:59.49 | Mikk | not that i've been keeping up but |
| 15:59.53 | Mikk | isnt *30 low-end? |
| 16:00.05 | Mikk | is still on a 8800 mind you |
| 16:00.14 | bt | if it runs on xbox it has to run on older gpus if they don't screw porting to badly |
| 16:00.22 | Dagmar | Mikk: Yes it is. Lower than my 9800 |
| 16:00.51 | sylvanaar_work | I hope it runs on my 280, im not buying a new video card |
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| 16:01.15 | Dagmar | Don't they throw those in free with a box of printer paper? |
| 16:02.40 | Stanzilla | skyrim is a bad console port :( |
| 16:03.04 | amro | almost every pc game released in the past 5 years has been |
| 16:03.26 | AcidWeb | Skyrim UI is not very good. |
| 16:03.33 | AcidWeb | But game is soooo good. |
| 16:03.59 | Dagmar | Do long as I don't have to run around wearing that dopey hillbilly helmet |
| 16:04.53 | sylvanaar_work | see this yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K27GuSSha0s |
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| 16:06.40 | Dagmar | Heh. RedBox claims to have it |
| 16:08.01 | alestane | So, is there some obvious reason why the Java class String is final? |
| 16:10.08 | Lopeppeppy | It leads to death. |
| 16:10.12 | Lopeppeppy | Death is very final. |
| 16:10.19 | Lopeppeppy | Java class String is death. |
| 16:10.30 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 16:10.32 | Fisker | fuck you |
| 16:10.45 | Stanzilla | hey Fisker |
| 16:10.47 | Stanzilla | why this time |
| 16:10.47 | foxlit | It's because Java has a shotgun |
| 16:10.51 | foxlit | and doesn't want you in its living room. |
| 16:10.52 | pompy | Veteran's Day sale on gaming pc's lol. interesting... http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/LandingPages/megaspecial/VeteransDay2011/ |
| 16:10.55 | Fisker | because you hate skyrim |
| 16:10.57 | Fisker | which means i hate you |
| 16:11.07 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 16:11.09 | Stanzilla | np |
| 16:11.27 | sylvanaar_work | alestane: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2068804/why-is-string-final-in-java |
| 16:11.54 | foxlit | (literally the first result for "java string final" on google. +1 insightful!) |
| 16:12.06 | sylvanaar_work | i can summarize it for you |
| 16:12.11 | alestane | I think I get it. |
| 16:12.43 | alestane | The String class is too deeply embedded in the language to risk its behavior being overridable. |
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| 16:13.18 | sylvanaar_work | i have never had a need to extend it |
| 16:13.27 | alestane | I don't actually want to extend it. |
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| 16:13.52 | sylvanaar_work | you can always implement charactersequence |
| 16:14.14 | nevcairiel | but most functions take string, not charactersequence |
| 16:14.27 | alestane | I want to create an ID static class nested in another class, and it would be fine to just declare "the ID type happens to be the same as String" (or some other class). |
| 16:14.47 | sylvanaar_work | You can pass a charsequence in place of a string cant you? |
| 16:14.57 | alestane | If Java has some equivalent to typedef, that would serve admirably. |
| 16:15.00 | nevcairiel | If it wants a string, you need to give ti a string |
| 16:15.09 | Fisker | i once final'ed a nevcairiel |
| 16:15.11 | sylvanaar_work | new string(charsequence) lol |
| 16:16.55 | alestane | Java apparently doesn't do equivalent types or type aliasing. |
| 16:17.26 | alestane | I either need to create a class which is composed of a String, or just use String. |
| 16:17.37 | nevcairiel | just use a string |
| 16:17.40 | sylvanaar_work | 6 |
| 16:17.44 | sylvanaar_work | ^ |
| 16:17.45 | Dagmar | Smaller atoms are for bitches, apparently |
| 16:19.30 | alestane | Well, see, the thing is that what I need is a unique identifier for Game objects. I'd like to be able to declare that as Game.ID, because its only real requirement is to be unique and comparable, and choosing an inherent definition like String means that changing my mind about what sort of object I want to use later would become a headache. |
| 16:19.53 | bt | int? |
| 16:19.53 | alestane | But Java doesn't seem to consider that, or assumes that it's actually bad design and there's no need to facilitate it. |
| 16:20.00 | acethebunny | 's head just exploded |
| 16:20.13 | nevcairiel | so implement charsequence and internall just forward all calls to some string |
| 16:21.28 | bt | if its not constantly called you could also create a class for it and extend it for whatever you need for different objects |
| 16:21.30 | alestane | Well, right. But then I have to write a complete interface for the wrapper type, which seems like needless work. There doesn't seem to be a really good solution, just four or five different acceptable but inconvenient ones. |
| 16:21.36 | sylvanaar_work | cant you just use new Object() |
| 16:22.03 | alestane | Well, the values also have to be stored persistently, probably in a database. |
| 16:22.22 | sylvanaar_work | ah |
| 16:22.41 | alestane | So for instance, before I get a Game out of the database, I want to say, "Is the Game with this ID already in memory?" |
| 16:22.51 | sylvanaar_work | right |
| 16:22.52 | nevcairiel | using javax.persistence, or some custom magic? :p |
| 16:23.04 | alestane | Some other team is writing the persistent store. |
| 16:23.19 | alestane | They might write it as a SQL front-end or whatever, it doesn't matter to me. |
| 16:23.50 | sylvanaar_work | how about http://www.javapractices.com/topic/TopicAction.do?Id=56 |
| 16:24.10 | sylvanaar_work | java.util.UUID |
| 16:24.40 | nevcairiel | uuids are stupid |
| 16:25.15 | sylvanaar_work | shrugs |
| 16:25.26 | nevcairiel | Anyway, Java doesn't allow what you want to do. If you want it to be flexibile in the future, your best bet is going with a facade |
| 16:25.38 | nevcairiel | If you're happy with a String, use a string |
| 16:25.45 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/thumb640x3601.jpg |
| 16:26.30 | alestane | I suppose that really, I should use whatever the Persistence team wants to use in their backing store. |
| 16:26.32 | Kraps | haha http://b.asset.soup.io/asset/2387/7755_9c6d.jpeg |
| 16:28.12 | alestane | But that brings me back to the same frustration (not that being frustrated does any good since, as you point out Java STILL won't do what I want it to)...I can't write my code until they decide that, since we can't just declare a type and set it to whatever turns out to be suitable. |
| 16:28.34 | nevcairiel | sounds like your workflow just needs some work |
| 16:28.48 | nevcairiel | or just define it to be something, and tell them to work with that |
| 16:29.00 | nevcairiel | I mean, what is a ID of a thing, i would probably always make it a Long. :p |
| 16:29.17 | nevcairiel | If you want "speaking" Ids, a String |
| 16:29.49 | alestane | And if they go with a SQL solution, it'll probably be a transaction id, which is numeric. I just don't want to have to care about how it gets implemented. |
| 16:30.15 | Torhal|work | bt: Good deal. |
| 16:30.44 | Arrowmaster | skyrim CE is fucking huge |
| 16:31.02 | Fisker | hehe |
| 16:31.06 | Fisker | like my penis? |
| 16:31.21 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 16:31.27 | amro | alestane: I second nevcairiel, either you or the other team should have authority to decide, and right now |
| 16:31.33 | Torhal|work | Fisker: He said huge. |
| 16:31.36 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 16:35.17 | Arrowmaster | omg this artbook is fucking epic |
| 16:35.28 | Arrowmaster | its bound like a real book |
| 16:35.45 | sylvanaar_work | how much did that cost |
| 16:36.01 | Arrowmaster | $150 but i dont care |
| 16:36.46 | Fisker | Arrowmaster |
| 16:36.57 | pompy | lol |
| 16:37.25 | pompy | Arrowmaster: what about the statue thing |
| 16:37.43 | Arrowmaster | i havent gotten that far yet |
| 16:37.49 | Arrowmaster | its in another box inside the box |
| 16:38.02 | Arrowmaster | waits for it |
| 16:38.11 | Jamash | ~xzibit |
| 16:38.15 | Arrowmaster | pokes Fisker |
| 16:38.16 | Jamash | no? |
| 16:38.29 | Fisker | yes Arrowmaster ? |
| 16:39.52 | Jamash | ~xzibit |
| 16:39.52 | purl | We put a $noun in your $noun, so you can $verb while you $verb |
| 16:40.01 | Jamash | thanks, purl |
| 16:40.15 | sylvanaar_work | Fisker: [10:37:41] <sylvanaar_work> cleverbot is a lot like Fisker (see http://pastebin.com/CiJug5Qn) |
| 16:40.28 | sylvanaar_work | purl, you talking now? |
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| 16:40.42 | Lunessa | station |
| 16:40.53 | sylvanaar_work | she is testy today |
| 16:41.39 | Arrowmaster | statue is some assembly required and i dont want to put it together just to take it back apart to but back in the box |
| 16:42.20 | pompy | your returning it? |
| 16:42.30 | pompy | you're* |
| 16:42.39 | Lopeppeppy | ~botsnack |
| 16:42.39 | purl | aw, gee, Lopeppeppy |
| 16:42.42 | Arrowmaster | +++ |
| 16:42.42 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa. |
| 16:42.44 | Jamash | why buy things to look at them seriously it's for noobs, buy things to keep them in boxes in your garage |
| 16:42.47 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:42.49 | Arrowmaster | 6++ |
| 16:42.53 | Jamash | late, Fisker |
| 16:42.55 | Arrowmaster | + |
| 16:42.55 | Arrowmaster | + |
| 16:42.57 | Arrowmaster | + |
| 16:42.57 | Fisker | hey Jamash ? |
| 16:43.00 | pompy | + |
| 16:43.01 | Fisker | + |
| 16:43.36 | Jamash | hey |
| 16:43.44 | Jamash | sup G |
| 16:44.15 | mikma | http://goo.gl/shbYJ |
| 16:44.53 | Jamash | froot loops? |
| 16:45.23 | mikma | oh this is cool, http://imgur.com/gallery/XVcqc |
| 16:46.42 | Jamash | chillin' |
| 16:46.51 | pompy | flash is dead on mobile devices? :O |
| 16:46.53 | pompy | http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/11/adobe-releases-final-flash-player-version-for-android-blackberr/ |
| 16:47.34 | Jamash | so they've decided to render themselves obsolete? |
| 16:49.47 | foxlit | You probably can't simplify it like that; someone still has to make authoring tools accessible to people doing graphics design. |
| 16:49.56 | Lunessa | Welcome to Monday. Would you like to fast forward to today? |
| 16:50.20 | Fisker | how does one do that? |
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| 16:50.30 | Jamash | >> |
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| 16:52.11 | pompy | ut oh Nokia, http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/11/but-you-cant-get-the-romania-out-of-nokia/ |
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| 16:55.49 | pompy | Shirik: http://www.tuaw.com/2011/11/11/ios-5-0-1-upgrade-may-not-fix-your-battery-woes/ |
| 16:56.03 | Shirik | actually |
| 16:56.08 | Shirik | I completely disagree |
| 16:56.13 | Shirik | I used to have to charge once a day |
| 16:56.16 | Arrowmaster | so from halo3, halo reach, gears3, and to skyrim, my CE boxes keep getting bigger and bigger |
| 16:56.19 | Shirik | I didn't charge last night and my phone is at 75% |
| 16:56.27 | amro | is there a way to step through lua code? |
| 16:56.39 | Shirik | honestly, that seems like a biased article, and I'll tell you why |
| 16:56.47 | amro | not if i tell you first |
| 16:57.03 | Shirik | because there are a lot of other articles saying the exact opposite - that most people are showing improvements, but one or two people have seen problems |
| 16:57.05 | Jamash | ah see I thought HTML5 might be the answer |
| 16:57.30 | Shirik | amro: Kinda |
| 16:57.35 | Shirik | there's a built-in lua debug library |
| 16:57.38 | Shirik | but it's not exactly easy to use |
| 16:57.52 | Shirik | it's meant to be the framework of a debugger, not a debugger itself |
| 16:57.58 | amro | I don't want any debugging overhead though. basically I want to do a lua_call piecemeal |
| 16:58.02 | pompy | Shirik: read the editors note at the bottom tho |
| 16:58.15 | amro | I don't care about examining the program at any point |
| 16:58.28 | Shirik | I'll tell you why other phones are draining faster |
| 16:58.39 | Fisker | how did you get halo and gears for pc Arrowmaster ? |
| 16:58.45 | Shirik | they're owned by people that have gotten so involved with facebook and twitter that it's impossible for them to put their phone down |
| 16:58.46 | Arrowmaster | i didnt |
| 16:58.55 | Fisker | because you shouldn't use the phone Shirik ? |
| 16:58.57 | Lopeppeppy | I could do that update while I eat lunch, I guess, Shirik... |
| 16:59.15 | Fisker | 95% of the time should be spend in standby and the 5% should be used speaking? |
| 16:59.55 | Jamash | does iphone have an app to measure battery usage of other apps? |
| 16:59.55 | Arrowmaster | i got 4 days out of my nexes s after i flashed CM7.1 onto it but now its started going down again to just 2 days or so |
| 17:00.08 | Arrowmaster | something is keeping the phone awake and i cant figure out what |
| 17:00.13 | Jamash | clowns |
| 17:00.21 | mikma | remember to change your Steam password fellows |
| 17:00.23 | mikma | http://apina.biz/49254.png |
| 17:00.34 | Arrowmaster | i did 4 days ago |
| 17:00.47 | amro | I think lua_sethook might be the thing |
| 17:01.10 | Fisker | why would i change that? |
| 17:01.16 | Shirik | amro: You can use that, yes |
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| 17:01.39 | Cide | hi |
| 17:02.27 | Jamash | well now I'm glad I changed my steam password to a random jumble of characters a while back |
| 17:02.28 | amro | Shirik: would there be much of a performance overhead? I don't want lua to waste time collecting debug info is what I mean |
| 17:02.51 | Shirik | the fact that you're doing a jump every millisecond will probably piss off your processor |
| 17:03.13 | Fisker | does processors have feelings? :O |
| 17:03.17 | Fisker | i've been a monster to it then |
| 17:03.23 | Shirik | aside from the fact that adding making a call on every line, it's not that big of a deal |
| 17:03.28 | Shirik | as far as Lua is concerned |
| 17:03.36 | amro | right, that's what I meant |
| 17:03.38 | amro | thanks |
| 17:03.45 | amro | and I will likely set it to every X instructions |
| 17:03.49 | amro | and adjust for performance if needed |
| 17:04.05 | Shirik | this is meant to be a debugging tool, not release code, right? |
| 17:04.22 | amro | no, I very much care about the performance |
| 17:04.54 | Jamash | are you building a standalone lua debugger? |
| 17:05.16 | Shirik | that didn't answer my question |
| 17:05.26 | Shirik | I just want to make sure you aren't including the debug library in released code |
| 17:05.59 | amro | er, what do you mean? this will be strictly using the C API |
| 17:06.06 | Arrowmaster | so what should i play as in skyrim |
| 17:06.11 | Shirik | oh |
| 17:06.13 | pompy | http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/03/05/gabe-newell-gives-out-his-steam-password/ |
| 17:06.16 | Shirik | I was talking about debug.sethook |
| 17:06.19 | pompy | old ;p |
| 17:06.21 | Fisker | old pompy |
| 17:06.25 | pompy | ohhh |
| 17:06.26 | amro | nah, lua_sethook |
| 17:06.59 | amro | Jamash: I'm exploring options for microthreads |
| 17:07.15 | Jamash | in wow or outside? |
| 17:07.19 | amro | outside |
| 17:08.39 | alestane | Okay, one more Java question...I have to supply a Class<? extends Message> as an argument. Given that LoginMessage extends Message, whats the syntax for supplying LoginMessage as the value of this argument. |
| 17:08.42 | alestane | ? |
| 17:09.14 | foxlit | it doesn't want your object. |
| 17:09.19 | foxlit | it wants the class of your object. |
| 17:09.27 | alestane | Right. |
| 17:09.37 | nevcairiel | LoginMessage.class |
| 17:09.40 | alestane | But f(LoginMessage) isn't compilable. |
| 17:09.44 | nevcairiel | or objectInstance.getClass() |
| 17:09.44 | alestane | There we go. |
| 17:09.57 | alestane | I have the class, yes, so that should work. |
| 17:10.08 | amro | you are indeed classy |
| 17:10.19 | Shirik | May I point out that any time someone uses the Class class, something is wrong? |
| 17:10.50 | alestane | The alternative was a mile-long if-then-else. |
| 17:10.55 | Shirik | I doubt it |
| 17:11.08 | nevcairiel | nah, its quite useful if you have a dynamic factory, and you need to tell it what to create exactly |
| 17:11.29 | Shirik | Without seeing a concrete example of that, nevcairiel, I'm going to have to default to "design flaw" |
| 17:12.19 | nevcairiel | You cannot instantiate generics, so you need a class reference to them |
| 17:12.48 | Shirik | oh right I forgot about that |
| 17:12.52 | Shirik | I still point to design flaw |
| 17:12.58 | Shirik | except I point to design flaw in the language |
| 17:13.14 | Shirik | that being said the whole concept of generics in Java is broken |
| 17:13.15 | nevcairiel | everyone knows that generics are not great |
| 17:13.28 | nevcairiel | still better then what we had before |
| 17:13.30 | nevcairiel | ie. nothing |
| 17:13.30 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 17:13.42 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 17:13.44 | Fisker | not so hey alestane |
| 17:13.52 | Fisker | wait |
| 17:13.56 | nevcairiel | I prefer templates over generics any day, but i can work with generics too |
| 17:18.23 | Jamash | http://homepage.mac.com/sigfpe/Computing/peano.html |
| 17:19.38 | alestane | Basically, my class receives messages, which are subclasses of Message, containing whatever data is appropriate to them. I need to call various methods, depending on the particular class of message, which handle them correctly. It seemed like I could either create a long "if msg is instance of LoginMessage then ... else if msg is instance of LogoutMessage then else....", or I can map the classes to the handlers. |
| 17:20.43 | alestane | Or, conceivably, the Message class could polymorphically call the right method of my class, but then I would have to make all those methods public and it would couple Message much more tightly with Client and Server. |
| 17:21.16 | nevcairiel | I agree with Shirik, it sounds like design failure. Your Message should really have a common interface to call, and every specialized message just do its thing in a method it implements |
| 17:21.23 | Jamash | sounds like you want a metaclass to me |
| 17:22.08 | Jamash | or yeah an interface |
| 17:22.27 | nevcairiel | message.doYourThing(); -- and every subclass of message just implements its logic in there |
| 17:22.54 | alestane | Except that that requires Message to know what its associated action should be. |
| 17:23.40 | Jamash | shouldn't the message object know what it is? |
| 17:23.55 | foxlit | Jamash: not if the message is say "Hello" |
| 17:24.04 | nevcairiel | LoginMessage would implement a special version of that method, it should not be implemented in the Message class itself |
| 17:24.07 | foxlit | and your response to that is dictated by some other logic. |
| 17:24.14 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck is this shit, i choose dark elf as my race in skyrim and im getting hurt by fire |
| 17:24.19 | Arrowmaster | also theres a floating bed |
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| 17:24.34 | Jamash | nevcairiel is right, you're doing it inside out and backwards |
| 17:25.46 | Dagmar | Did Dark Elves become fireproof when I wasn't looking? |
| 17:26.03 | Jamash | alestane: are you trying to do some sort of RPC |
| 17:26.05 | Dagmar | I think I'd have noticed that in the last game |
| 17:26.09 | alestane | That basically requires a fairly major shift in the way the design was broken down into groups, from "send info to partner" to "call methods remotely." |
| 17:26.21 | pompy | Arrowmaster: are u using your racial ability? |
| 17:26.28 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: they always have been |
| 17:26.33 | pompy | Ancestor's Wrath |
| 17:26.34 | nevcairiel | Your design just doesnt seem to fit the OO principle |
| 17:26.37 | alestane | Anyway, I have to hit the road. |
| 17:26.48 | alestane | Not really my design, I'm afraid. |
| 17:26.51 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Maybe I never fought any inkies in Oblivion then |
| 17:27.07 | Dagmar | I tended to let the fireballs do the talking. Often. |
| 17:27.31 | Dagmar | They handle introductions fairly well inside a cave. |
| 17:27.42 | Fisker | Dagmar |
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| 17:30.21 | Arrowmaster | oh no wonder there was floating beds and shit, i reloaded and there was a missing building |
| 17:32.47 | Arrowmaster | fuck a decision already, i dont know which to choose |
| 17:33.02 | nevcairiel | just choose |
| 17:33.13 | Arrowmaster | i did |
| 17:33.22 | pompy | lol |
| 17:33.40 | Fisker | which decision? |
| 17:33.43 | amro | Arrowmaster's choice |
| 17:33.46 | amro | I call dibs on the screenplay |
| 17:33.58 | amro | admittedly, a rather short one |
| 17:34.20 | Jamash | Dagmar: A friend of mine has this shirt: http://gamerconcepts.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=13 |
| 17:36.01 | Dagmar | Damn straight |
| 17:36.40 | Jamash | I got to cast a maximized widened fireball as a sorcerer in a 3.5e game once |
| 17:36.47 | Jamash | it was pretty epic |
| 17:38.00 | Arrowmaster | hmm i dont think dark elves have nightvision anymore..... |
| 17:38.01 | Lunessa | I would totally wear that shirt. |
| 17:38.59 | Jamash | roll a d6 roll a d6* *per caster level |
| 17:41.33 | Lunessa | Jamash: Many many years ago, in first edition I was playing a wizard in a party comprised of barbarians - this was risky because in 1rst Ed barbarians hated magic-users of all sorts. I chucked a fireball into a room full of baddies. The DM calculated my area of effect, the volume of the room and the overpressure… and the fireball decimated the entire room, the hall behind us and the interconnecting hallway. The fireball stopped 1 foot short of the |
| 17:41.34 | Lunessa | party. The rest of my party then slaughtered me. :) |
| 17:41.51 | Jamash | daww |
| 17:42.57 | Lopeppeppy | Damn. Sucks to be so good, huh? |
| 17:43.13 | Arrowmaster | we had an epic level campaign in 3.5 where our sorc liked to combo timestop and meteor |
| 17:43.37 | Arrowmaster | to unload his entire days worth of spells in one turn |
| 17:43.42 | Lunessa | Moral of this story is … never play with physics geeks at CalTech |
| 17:44.24 | Arrowmaster | he did it to a demigod with magic reflect, killed the entire party and then i made the DM roll my magic resistance and i almost survived the 10000+ damage |
| 17:45.01 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uh5MB17v9A&feature=relmfu |
| 17:45.03 | Jamash | dunno about 1st edition but 3.5 fireball explicitly does not cause overpressure |
| 17:46.35 | Dagmar | "almost" |
| 17:46.44 | Jamash | pfft |
| 17:47.29 | Jamash | yes, if someone is trying to apply gas laws to your D&D game then you should find a new DM |
| 17:47.51 | Lopeppeppy | Many many years ago... < first clue |
| 17:48.02 | Jamash | I know, I know |
| 17:48.04 | Jamash | I'm agreeing |
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| 17:57.36 | Lunessa | It's a great gaming story anyway. :P |
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| 17:59.04 | airtonix | i'm awesome |
| 18:01.44 | Fisker | i had lulz once Lunessa |
| 18:01.46 | Fisker | in D&D |
| 18:01.50 | Fisker | we were invited on a boat |
| 18:01.58 | Fisker | and the guy wanted us to take off our armor and weapons |
| 18:02.02 | Fisker | i was the only one who did |
| 18:02.07 | Fisker | then the guy fell over the boat |
| 18:02.20 | Fisker | one followed and had to roll whether or not he could support his own weight in chainmail |
| 18:02.22 | Fisker | :3 |
| 18:02.27 | Fisker | drowned |
| 18:02.29 | Fisker | like a boss |
| 18:02.39 | Lunessa | Just had one of those "what the hell are we thinking" moments at work. We have a significant population of Spanish-speaking students, staff and faculty…. and not a single one of our workstations anywhere is running a spanish language pack. *facepalm* |
| 18:03.01 | Fisker | they need to learn english somehow |
| 18:03.02 | Lunessa | Like a boss. |
| 18:03.38 | Lopeppeppy | We're doing a lot of that kind of stuff at my college this winter, Lunessa. Language packs, translation apps, etc. |
| 18:04.01 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: I can't believe I didn't think of this earlier. *facepalm* |
| 18:04.02 | Fisker | that's one way of doing it Lopeppeppy |
| 18:06.16 | airtonix | Fisker: the other way is to join the apple dream and spend road repair funding on new iphone 4s so they can have siri do it for them |
| 18:06.30 | airtonix | who cares if we have craters in the main road |
| 18:06.43 | airtonix | AT LEAST THE SPAINARDS ARE HAPPY |
| 18:07.40 | Lopeppeppy | You don't think of it because you don't need it - we sort of rely on the users to tell us "I require this sparkly, please to get it for me". Then we laugh and say no, because we've read Bastard Operator from Hell and know the rules. |
| 18:08.47 | airtonix | muwahaha |
| 18:09.16 | airtonix | the proper response is : "What's that? you want me to delete all your emails? OK!!!" |
| 18:10.09 | Lunessa | brb, deleting airtonix's emails. |
| 18:10.25 | airtonix | joy |
| 18:10.51 | airtonix | what was the robots name that ford re-programmed to love everythin he did ? |
| 18:11.04 | airtonix | some kind of spherical floating thing |
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| 18:11.50 | airtonix | greetings overlord |
| 18:12.05 | airtonix | slinks off the throne |
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| 18:20.43 | Lopeppeppy | snorgles Cairenn gently |
| 18:20.52 | Cairenn | hugs Lopeppeppy |
| 18:21.01 | Arrowmaster | im thinking about starting over in skyrim, im just not feeling the dark elf love anymore, all they get is 50% fire resist and a power that does aoe fire damage around them |
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| 18:32.36 | Lopeppeppy | I can't resist. I have to at least read the directions. |
| 18:32.48 | Lopeppeppy | goes to investigate the Cabinet of Curiosities. |
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| 18:58.44 | Kraps | http://i.imgur.com/Xog3D.jpg |
| 19:03.44 | amro | 10% of proceeds go to PETA |
| 19:07.55 | Seerah | Kraps: ha! |
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| 19:18.41 | Fisker | i don't support the PETA |
| 19:23.51 | Lunessa | I love users who tell me "I already did all that." - No, if you had already done the things I'm telling you to do, you wouldn't be calling me for help. |
| 19:25.04 | Fisker | haste |
| 19:25.08 | Fisker | y u error? |
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| 19:40.49 | Jamash | airtonix: bad book |
| 19:41.10 | Jamash | also, Colin |
| 19:46.02 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 20:04.58 | foxlit | sigh, I need a better cache strategy |
| 20:07.57 | amro | Fisker |
| 20:08.37 | Gnarfoz | I need some CLEU Help |
| 20:09.04 | Gnarfoz | I want to get the following data about a player dispelling a debuff from another player |
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| 20:09.34 | Gnarfoz | 1) is SPELL_DISPEL the correct event? 2) if so, is arg5 the dispeller, arg9 the target and arg12 the spellid of the debuff? |
| 20:09.46 | Gnarfoz | that's what I currently have, but something about it must be wrong because it doesn't work at all |
| 20:10.23 | Gnarfoz | I used http://www.wowpedia.org/API_COMBAT_LOG_EVENT for reference, but maybe something is off |
| 20:11.17 | Rite | Anyone using GathererDB Wowhead ? Got problems importing the latest one , stops at 94.4% missing icecrown and wintergrasp maybe more. |
| 20:13.07 | Rite | Database Version: 2011.11.03 with gatherer 3.2.4 |
| 20:15.54 | Gnarfoz | hmmm example line: |
| 20:15.54 | Mikk | Gnarfoz: well dump the contents and find out? |
| 20:15.55 | Gnarfoz | 11/11 21:05:53.829 SPELL_DISPEL,0x030000000006F03C,"Venara",0x514,0x80,0x030000000006F03C,"Venara",0x514,0x80,97690,"Dispel Magic",0x2,89421,"Wrack",32,DEBUFF |
| 20:16.24 | Gnarfoz | I'll re-check, I must have typoed something or other, because the branch is simply not being entered |
| 20:16.32 | Mikk | print() is your friend |
| 20:16.43 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I'm already outputting something to raid chat |
| 20:16.50 | Gnarfoz | it should just fail to concatenate empty variables |
| 20:16.56 | Gnarfoz | but it doesn't, so I'm certain the branch is not being entered at all |
| 20:17.42 | Gnarfoz | doing this in between tries, so... limited coding time :D |
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| 20:19.39 | Fisker | amro |
| 20:24.40 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: problems with the sinestra grid thingy?? |
| 20:25.04 | Caribou_ | hello people, i'm having a positioning problem. I have a scrollframe which has a child, scrollchildframe, i've got 2 problems : why setting the chilframe:width & height to 1 actually take the whole size of the parent ? also how do i set inner margins of the childframe. I though i would make a setpoint topleft x,y relative to scrollframe but it doesn't seems to work >> http://paste2.org/p/1772178 |
| 20:25.08 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: no, works fine |
| 20:25.13 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 20:25.43 | Caribou_ | (i should have paste with setpoing) |
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| 20:26.32 | Gnarfoz | meh |
| 20:26.38 | Gnarfoz | combatlog.txt output is not the same format as CLEU |
| 20:27.46 | Caribou_ | ( http://paste2.org/p/1772190 ) |
| 20:30.08 | Lunessa | "So then if you don't get a job out of college, you're right back home at age 23, possibly still sleeping on a bed shaped like the Millennium Falcon." Hell's yeah son, I would own a bed shaped like the Falcon. |
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| 20:31.15 | Gnarfoz | errr |
| 20:31.15 | Gnarfoz | so |
| 20:31.24 | Gnarfoz | this is a CLEU handler |
| 20:31.35 | Gnarfoz | and I'm doing print (select(15,...)) |
| 20:32.09 | Gnarfoz | but it prints more than one thing? |
| 20:32.14 | Gnarfoz | shouldn't () prevent that |
| 20:32.34 | Gnarfoz | it prints 89435 Wrack 32 DEBUFF |
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| 20:33.08 | Gnarfoz | is there some other way to reduce the result of select() to just the first element? |
| 20:33.40 | moop | what's the general method of determining if a client is enGB or enUS? |
| 20:33.50 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: just dont use the rest? |
| 20:33.59 | Gnarfoz | moop: GetLocale() |
| 20:34.05 | nevcairiel | or wrap it in an extra () |
| 20:34.06 | Gnarfoz | also, enGB and enUS are not different |
| 20:34.07 | moop | well, perhaps that wasn't the best way to word it - but GetLocale() returns enUS for enGB clients |
| 20:34.19 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: that's what I did, didn't I? or does it have to be ((select())) |
| 20:34.28 | moop | how can I differentiate european clients from US ones? |
| 20:34.30 | nevcairiel | lua> print(select(1,2,3)) |
| 20:34.30 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 2, 3 |
| 20:34.36 | nevcairiel | lua> print((select(1,2,3))) |
| 20:34.36 | Gnarfoz | ooooh |
| 20:34.36 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 2 |
| 20:34.38 | Gnarfoz | fail |
| 20:34.52 | Gnarfoz | (select()) works on a=(select()) |
| 20:34.58 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 20:35.02 | Gnarfoz | but it interprets the first set as print's () |
| 20:35.09 | Gnarfoz | never thought about that |
| 20:35.33 | Gnarfoz | print was just for debug anyway |
| 20:36.53 | moop | I guess I found the solution... GetCVar("portal") returns eu or us |
| 20:39.16 | Gnarfoz | what do you need that for, anyway |
| 20:39.56 | moop | mostly curiosity, but a friend wanted to localise his addon and some US/EU spellings are different |
| 20:40.04 | Gnarfoz | not in the wow client |
| 20:40.10 | moop | e.g. localize/localise |
| 20:40.20 | Gnarfoz | so... needless work, but if he wants to... ^^ |
| 20:44.10 | Gnarfoz | fuck this SPELL_DISPEL shit |
| 20:44.13 | Gnarfoz | why doesn't this work |
| 20:44.18 | Gnarfoz | it's not rocket science |
| 20:44.58 | amro | no, it's arcane science |
| 20:46.51 | Gnarfoz | perhaps |
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| 20:52.35 | Arrowmaster | somebody broke something, http://pastebin.com/AEHnWXs8 |
| 20:52.35 | Gnarfoz | please, someone enlighten me why this doesn't print anything: http://pastebin.com/5y1fvkQH |
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| 21:14.38 | Gnarfoz | let me guess |
| 21:15.08 | Gnarfoz | when I'm currently in a CLEU handler for SPELL_DISPEL, doing a UnitAura with the data I get from that will probably return nil or something else than I expect because the aura has already been dispelled, right? |
| 21:16.38 | pompy | hmmm, profit? Amazon just had http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003O6EE4U/ as a lightning deal "Xbox 360 Kinect 4GB Bundle with $100 Credit" .. i get the $100 credit ...put the console on ebay, sell it, and PROFIT |
| 21:19.41 | Fisker | oh ok pompy |
| 21:20.50 | pompy | yar Fisker |
| 21:21.01 | pompy | it was sold out when i saw the lightning deal |
| 21:21.10 | pompy | but i got on teh waitlist and a spot opened. |
| 21:21.22 | Fisker | i would never get it |
| 21:21.30 | Fisker | 4GB lulz |
| 21:21.36 | pompy | yeah internal |
| 21:21.48 | Fisker | also won't the price probably drop $100 after black friday anyway? |
| 21:21.53 | pompy | thats like 3/4 of a game install! |
| 21:22.07 | Fisker | atleast there was talks about it dropping permanently after black friday etc. |
| 21:22.16 | pompy | thats why ima sell it asap, someone will grab it |
| 21:22.34 | Fisker | i hope you don't sell it |
| 21:22.34 | Fisker | :3 |
| 21:22.38 | pompy | jerkface |
| 21:22.55 | Fisker | :( |
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| 21:37.19 | Arrowmaster | "Parnic is online and wants to play Modern Warfare 3" |
| 21:37.40 | Fisker | :/ |
| 21:38.26 | Arrowmaster | it keeps popping up everytime he comes online |
| 21:40.41 | pompy | maybe he really wants to play |
| 21:40.54 | Arrowmaster | its the new beacon feature of the new dashboard |
| 21:42.59 | Lunessa | Bacon! |
| 21:43.04 | Lunessa | Oh, wait. |
| 21:43.57 | Fisker | :( |
| 21:43.59 | Fisker | i wanted bacon |
| 21:44.56 | Fisker | damn |
| 21:45.00 | Fisker | quarter a million playing skyrim |
| 21:45.04 | Fisker | and i'm stuck in this raid :( |
| 21:45.25 | Lunessa | Not sure I want to spend $60 for it. |
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| 21:49.06 | Rite | 3 swtor beta keys in 1 hour... guess they mean it with "stress" test.... |
| 21:49.21 | Rite | they wanna kick ppl off wow i guess before 4.3 |
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| 21:51.58 | Dagmar | I'm tempted to troll them about my email address |
| 21:53.40 | Fisker | i still haven't gotten a key |
| 21:53.49 | Fisker | just a "Stay tuned for more infos" e-mail :( |
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| 21:56.54 | Dagmar | Clearly they're using the rest of their Origin credentials |
| 21:58.16 | Dagmar | ...and they must have decided everyone's gotta change their passwords (gosh, wonder why) which I can't do becuause their crap is undergoing maintenance |
| 22:02.19 | Rite | maintainance aka, site is overloaded |
| 22:02.31 | Rite | nothing to see there anyway |
| 22:02.44 | Dagmar | Well, I'm trying to flag my account as wanting a beta |
| 22:03.04 | Dagmar | ...although I'm inclined to say "No I won't bother" because Origin is involved |
| 22:03.44 | Dagmar | They _really_ pissed me off with the account consolidation thing. |
| 22:04.05 | Rite | Owning just about any C&C game and BF3 via origin doesn't really give me a choice |
| 22:04.11 | Dagmar | I did actually spend about three hours on the phone with them trying to round up the four games I had tangled up in their deranged DRM solution |
| 22:04.56 | Dagmar | All were registered as "evildagmar+somestring@domain.com" and they snipped the +somestring part off and managed to _misplace_ three of the game credentials. |
| 22:05.35 | Dagmar | I had those tags in there for a reason (I don't trust them not to lose control of my data for one thing). |
| 22:05.36 | pompy | anyone have an UPlay account? |
| 22:06.09 | Dagmar | I had to make two different reps pull up and RFC to admit that "+" is in fact a valid character in an email address. |
| 22:06.14 | Dagmar | s/and/an/ |
| 22:06.24 | Dagmar | Sooo... f**k them. |
| 22:06.47 | Dagmar | Crap like that is a bigger inducement to piracy than being broke |
| 22:07.12 | Arrowmaster | these racist bandits just keep talking about making a rug out of me |
| 22:07.20 | Rite | only issue i had with EA was them not giving me BF veteran status over games i registered, back when it was EADM |
| 22:08.52 | Rite | EA vs activision will battle on both mmo and FPS markets over Q4 2011 and beyond |
| 22:09.05 | Dagmar | Joy. Their captcha system is broken now. |
| 22:11.23 | Cide | Shirik: hi |
| 22:11.35 | bt | 900years to late tbh |
| 22:12.44 | Dagmar | My money's on Activision because they don't regularly try f**king me in the a** over games I bought |
| 22:14.14 | Rite | Blizzard is definately a very strong brach, haven't had any negative issues from their part, lag and crashes affected everyone, cant really blame a company for that. |
| 22:14.49 | Cide | did you pick that name solely because you can say "amirite? yes, iamrite"? |
| 22:16.49 | foxlit | Dagmar: clearly you should host your own email servers :P |
| 22:17.06 | Dagmar | I'm not. |
| 22:17.08 | Dagmar | I'm using Gmail. |
| 22:17.14 | foxlit | should :) |
| 22:17.14 | Rite | No, my original WoW main was Teri, but when I rerolled from US to EU due to time zone contstraints that name was taken on a realm so i changed it >< |
| 22:17.34 | Dagmar | foxlit: That wouldn't really help the issue that EA are morons. |
| 22:17.42 | foxlit | rather than mail+string@gmail.com, you could do string@domain.com |
| 22:17.43 | Dagmar | Gmail supports +marked email addresses just fine. |
| 22:17.56 | foxlit | er, it kind of helps with the issue that EA are morons |
| 22:18.04 | foxlit | Suddenly your email address is recognized by them :P |
| 22:18.32 | Dagmar | Yeah and if I go to that much trouble and they screw me over, my only response will be to catch a flight with a Louisville Slugger in my carryon. |
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| 22:21.59 | bt | If blizz really does what some said with titan they will blow ea out of their league |
| 22:22.02 | Dagmar | That having been said I'm perpetually on the fence about just renewing my old vanity domain and routing it through Google Apps |
| 22:22.33 | Dagmar | ...excepting that having my own domain led me to be 10x the bastard I am now about silly crap like that. |
| 22:23.38 | Rite | titan won't come before they'll need it , prolly see WoW titans first hehe |
| 22:23.53 | Rite | big secret trump card |
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| 22:42.44 | pompy | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127583 is this worth it? |
| 22:50.42 | Arrowmaster | find out what previous model it compares to |
| 22:51.08 | Arrowmaster | looks only slightly better than my 275 |
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| 22:55.15 | Arrowmaster | so i found something slightly broken about skyrim, if you start as a khajiit your claws are better than any one hand weapons you find but using them doesnt level up any skills |
| 22:59.18 | pompy | Arrowmaster: seems quite pointless :x http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GT_520/27.html |
| 22:59.38 | pompy | thats for zotac not msi but does that make much of a difference? |
| 23:02.00 | nevcairiel | the 520 is a worthless card |
| 23:02.19 | nevcairiel | its really *extremely* slow |
| 23:03.13 | pompy | nevcairiel: yeah thats what that link shows . the price got my hopes up! |
| 23:05.44 | foxlit | "iOS 5.0.1 update causing contact, WiFi headaches for some users " |
| 23:05.50 | foxlit | I completely misparsed that headline. |
| 23:05.56 | foxlit | "wtf is a WiFi headache?" |
| 23:06.30 | nevcairiel | thats the headache you get when your phones wifi antenna is at full transmitting strength |
| 23:06.42 | zenzelezz | WiFi headache is the headache you get when you try to teach your parents to use wireless stuff |
| 23:06.59 | foxlit | nevcairiel: that's fairly close to my initial interpretation |
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| 23:12.29 | pompy | http://www.squidoo.com/wifi-headaches |
| 23:14.31 | Arrowmaster | so i was hunting a fox and it just disappeared into a river |
| 23:14.40 | Arrowmaster | not swiming or anything but just gone |
| 23:14.40 | pompy | nice |
| 23:14.59 | pompy | im sure they are working out all the kinks on teh 360 version at least |
| 23:15.28 | pompy | im only on teh first gate in oblivion :( |
| 23:15.59 | Thunder_Child | not even skyrim? |
| 23:17.31 | Arrowmaster | a slaughterfish is trying to get me on some rocks, its walking around on the rocks |
| 23:17.43 | pompy | dunno if i wanna pick that up yet |
| 23:18.42 | Arrowmaster | i dont like what they did to the racial powers in skyrim, almost everything is now a once a day power |
| 23:18.54 | pompy | Arrowmaster: are u laughing at the slaughterfish? |
| 23:19.11 | Arrowmaster | high elves have a once a day power for mega magika regen |
| 23:19.51 | pompy | i htink they added some type of daily quest system in there too |
| 23:20.42 | Arrowmaster | the only ones that arent turned into a once a day are the argonians water breathing and the khajiit nightvision |
| 23:24.34 | Arrowmaster | i caught a salmon while swimming! |
| 23:29.44 | Fisker | oh you Shirik |
| 23:29.45 | Fisker | http://www.neowin.net/news/man-arrested-after-calling-911-to-complain-about-his-iphone |
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| 23:48.23 | karl_w_w | Fisker: bacon. |
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