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| 00:18.35 | bleeter | http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000SSV8AA/?tag=047-20 |
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| 00:21.14 | Sintacks | http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/459/wtfisthisthing.png |
| 00:21.17 | Sintacks | halp. wtf is that |
| 00:22.03 | Thunder_Child | an image |
| 00:22.28 | mckenziemc | feels like a sound to me |
| 00:23.18 | Sintacks | dot dot dot |
| 00:23.31 | Corv | Anyone, thoughts? If I've created a scanning tooltip that generally works, but GetTextColor always returns 0,0,0,0, what have I done wrong? |
| 00:23.59 | Corv | That is, GetTextColor on any line of the tip. |
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| 00:26.52 | mckenziemc | could the color info be embedded in the text? |
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| 00:26.59 | mckenziemc | i don't know how tooltips work |
| 00:27.02 | bluspacecow | @sintacks /framestack <--- try that |
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| 00:29.02 | Sintacks | just shows tables with Shadowed UF |
| 00:31.09 | Arrowmaster | fucking nosepad just broke off my glasses |
| 00:31.34 | kd3 | well stop fucking it. I can't imagine that feels good |
| 00:31.35 | mckenziemc | ): |
| 00:31.46 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 00:31.54 | Sintacks | my glasses don't have nosepads |
| 00:32.02 | Sintacks | i can't stand "normal" glasses anymore |
| 00:34.42 | Arrowmaster | well i need titanium frames so my choices are limited |
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| 00:38.30 | Sintacks | alergic(fuck spelling) to metal? |
| 00:38.47 | Sintacks | me too... which makes having frames without nosepads harder... |
| 00:38.56 | Sintacks | i have to put something on the bridge to keep it from breaking out my nose |
| 00:41.57 | pompy1 | Sintacks: you just missed an extra l ;) |
| 00:46.09 | Sintacks | heh |
| 00:54.47 | Corv | Well. I certainly feel like an idiot now. |
| 00:55.07 | Corv | Note to self: %d ~= %f |
| 00:56.57 | Kraps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awareness_ribbons |
| 00:56.59 | Kraps | gray is zombie awareness |
| 00:57.17 | kd3 | I guess for... gray matter? |
| 00:57.33 | mckenziemc | what color is the awareness ribbon of awareness ribbons |
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| 01:04.19 | pompy1 | http://gamerant.com/world-of-warcraft-subscriptions-decline-curt-115357/ |
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| 01:14.09 | Jamash | in what way is "fewer people are playing wow due in part to the global economic meltdown" equivalent to "wow is becoming obsolete" |
| 01:16.29 | bluspacecow | i dunno |
| 01:16.34 | bluspacecow | i looked at their slides |
| 01:16.47 | bluspacecow | first one was mutual fapping over how much money they were making that quarter |
| 01:17.02 | Jamash | whose slides? |
| 01:17.20 | bluspacecow | the one for the investor conference call |
| 01:17.42 | Jamash | linkey dink? |
| 01:18.51 | bluspacecow | http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/ACTI/1496941548x0x516208/22773639-310c-4f17-b2b3-984decf06f55/03_ATVI_C3Q11_Slides.pdf |
| 01:19.58 | bluspacecow | also |
| 01:19.59 | bluspacecow | http://www.blizzplanet.com/blog/comments/transcript-activision-blizzard-q3-calendar-2011-results-conference-call |
| 01:20.27 | Jamash | wait people are selling actibizzlard stock on record profits and three+ blizzard releases next year? |
| 01:20.49 | Jamash | I know the stock market is insane but damn |
| 01:22.12 | Jamash | bungie universe = wat? |
| 01:23.19 | bluspacecow | lol wat |
| 01:23.22 | bluspacecow | page #? |
| 01:24.57 | bluspacecow | oh that |
| 01:25.06 | Kraps | gmail's new look sucks ass |
| 01:25.17 | bluspacecow | then switch back to old look |
| 01:25.51 | Kraps | for how long |
| 01:28.58 | Jamash | let me find an appropriate citation for this |
| 01:35.52 | Caribou_ | What's wrong with that >> http://paste2.org/p/1769063 ? When i'm commenting the icon part the text is shown, and when i'm commenting the text part the icons appears >:( |
| 01:44.10 | Jamash | sigh, I can't find it but I remember an article in the Onion or some similar publication with a headline similar to "Nothin' But Eggnog, Inc. Earnings Surge in 4Q After 3 Quarters of Stagnation, Stunning Stock Analysts" |
| 01:44.42 | pompy1 | http://www.facebook.com/questions/10150377138939333/ |
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| 01:48.35 | Jamash | It depends, are we talking about Christian Bale or the *actual* Batman |
| 01:49.34 | Jamash | anyway I voted for GLaDOS on the grounds that she'd seal the auditorium and fill it with deadly neurotoxin |
| 01:49.49 | bluspacecow | that would be a good thing imho |
| 01:51.25 | pompy1 | haha definitely |
| 01:53.19 | Caribou_ | (allright fixed) |
| 02:06.13 | pompy1 | Cide: http://gamerant.com/battlefield-4-ea-president-tao-115413/ |
| 02:17.51 | Arrowmaster | im 3 minutes away from the end of MW3 and i keep getting killed by shotgun spam |
| 02:18.00 | Thunder_Child | duck |
| 02:18.09 | bluspacecow | quack |
| 02:19.02 | Arrowmaster | its a timed section |
| 02:19.14 | Arrowmaster | i have to be quick |
| 02:20.12 | bluspacecow | or a duck |
| 02:21.32 | Arrowmaster | the worst part is the checkpoint has me starting in a spot i get shotgun spammed to death in the majority of the time |
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| 02:42.54 | Jamash | got a new wireless-N router! |
| 02:43.18 | Jamash | that would support ipv6 if any US ISP would actually give out ipv6 blocks to customers |
| 02:44.31 | Thunder_Child | you need to earn your ipv6 |
| 02:44.40 | Jamash | how many boxtops do I need |
| 02:46.07 | Jamash | also what moron decided it was a good idea to quadruple the address length and then halve the usable address length |
| 03:06.07 | Arrowmaster | MW3 veteran completed |
| 03:06.35 | Arrowmaster | stupid deceptive timer making me want to rush through the last part when really its easier to take your time |
| 03:09.05 | Thunder_Child | i win |
| 03:09.46 | mckenziemc | oh? |
| 03:13.50 | Thunder_Child | yes, i told Arrowmaster to, and I quote 'duck'. |
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| 03:33.44 | pompy1 | Arrowmaster: says u were last online 5 hours ago on xbl hm. |
| 03:34.18 | Arrowmaster | oh i might still be appearing offline from when i was boosting bad company |
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| 03:35.30 | karl_w_w | is it me or has usb3 taken off very quickly |
| 03:39.21 | Adys | huh? |
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| 04:09.36 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, Shirik: interesting, and slightly useful http://camerasize.com/compare/ |
| 04:12.13 | Iriel | Seems about right |
| 04:13.13 | Iriel | I can actually do a few of those comparisons |
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| 04:32.51 | Sintacks | Does anyone know what this icon on Shadowed UF is... and why it won't go away... http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/459/wtfisthisthing.png |
| 04:33.12 | Shadowed | It appears you are an angel |
| 04:33.29 | Sintacks | that's actaully the MT |
| 04:33.50 | Sintacks | had it the whole time we were in FL after his first death |
| 04:34.02 | Shadowed | It appears your MT is an angel then |
| 04:34.04 | Sintacks | on every frame he was (MT, Focus, Target) |
| 04:34.56 | Shadowed | is it still showing up |
| 04:35.06 | Sintacks | i assume not, since i'm not in that raid anymore |
| 04:35.14 | Shadowed | ah well taht's not entirey useful then |
| 04:35.21 | Shadowed | that/entirely |
| 04:35.22 | Sintacks | lol. |
| 04:35.54 | Sintacks | I also can't /suf cuz it errors on the powerbar color module.. i disabled it and i can get to options. so there is also something wrong with that. :( |
| 04:36.19 | Sintacks | ...dOns\ShadowedUF_ClassPower\ShadowedUF_ClassPower.lua line 39: |
| 04:36.19 | Sintacks | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:37.00 | Shadowed | That's not my issue since it's a 3rd party module |
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| 04:37.05 | Sintacks | i know. |
| 04:37.19 | Sintacks | i need to run with it turned off and see if the angel thing still shows up |
| 04:37.55 | Sintacks | Or does the main addon support coloring power bar by type without a seperate module? |
| 04:41.17 | Sintacks | It worked before the last update as far as I noticed heh |
| 04:54.46 | Sintacks | Hey Shadowed, do think fixing that function you told the author of SUF ClassPower to do, but never did might fix the problem? lol |
| 04:55.24 | Sintacks | this function change was 2 years ago ... heh |
| 04:57.51 | Sintacks | that'd be a no.. sadface |
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| 05:00.42 | Sintacks | i can get around not being able to get into the settings by removing the part of code that is throwing the error... good enough for me |
| 05:42.35 | Sintacks | hmm. seems i don't need that module at all... |
| 05:42.39 | Sintacks | which makes me wonderw hy i had it still |
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| 06:11.44 | Fisker | Stanzilla |
| 06:15.26 | mckenziemc1 | Fisker |
| 06:15.32 | Fisker | mckenziemc1 |
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| 06:44.57 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 06:46.15 | bluspacecow | oh hai |
| 06:47.40 | Fisker | nope |
| 06:47.44 | Fisker | you have been denied |
| 06:48.19 | bluspacecow | (!) |
| 06:48.38 | mckenziemc | sorry Fisker, your deniability was denied |
| 06:49.04 | Fisker | sup? |
| 07:15.24 | Jamash | bluspacecow: is that a indicator of surprise or an emoticon of a butt |
| 07:15.58 | bluspacecow | surprise! |
| 07:16.19 | Jamash | I dunno, I need a second opinion |
| 07:16.25 | Jamash | is there a butt doctor in the house? |
| 07:16.38 | mckenziemc | i think you need to reword the question |
| 07:16.47 | Jamash | is doctor butts in the house? |
| 07:16.57 | mckenziemc | not that question :( |
| 07:17.19 | Jamash | how many beans make five? |
| 07:17.34 | mckenziemc | 7 and negative 2 beans |
| 07:18.06 | Jamash | let's see, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, [massive explosion takes out most of the city] |
| 07:18.43 | mckenziemc | death by anti-bean ftl |
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| 07:24.15 | Thunder_Child | "LOCATION:Guatemala/Huntington Beach, CA" thats an unusual combo |
| 07:24.51 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 07:46.49 | airtonix_ | hey |
| 07:47.34 | Thunder_Child | ho |
| 07:47.49 | airtonix_ | someone explain this : http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/ivanhoe_reservoir.jpg |
| 07:48.07 | airtonix_ | it's safe for everything except ludites |
| 07:48.30 | Thunder_Child | if i had to explain that i would guess the balls absorb something out of the water |
| 07:48.41 | Thunder_Child | eg, a poor mans filtration system |
| 07:49.18 | airtonix_ | oh comments reveal |
| 07:49.21 | airtonix_ | In 2007, high levels of bromate—a carcinogen formed when bromide and chlorine react with sunlight—were found in Los Angeles’s Ivanhoe Reservoir. Today three million black plastic balls help deflect UV rays. |
| 07:49.57 | airtonix_ | http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/photography/photo-of-the-day/ivanhoe-reservoir-los-angeles-ludwig/ |
| 07:50.54 | Thunder_Child | interesting, i didnt know silver lake reservoir had a friend |
| 07:51.36 | Thunder_Child | might have to go visit there to take some pictures |
| 07:52.35 | Thunder_Child | airtonix_: http://goo.gl/BX2eC google maps agrees |
| 07:54.27 | airtonix_ | doesn't that reservoir have fences around it ? |
| 07:54.53 | airtonix_ | it's hard to tell in the photo |
| 07:55.11 | airtonix_ | since i can't see anything obstructing the view of that car in the distance |
| 07:55.48 | airtonix_ | every reservoir in australia i've seen has 6 foot high fences tipped with tiger razor wire |
| 07:55.56 | airtonix_ | surrounding them |
| 07:55.57 | Thunder_Child | the larger one does, and the smaller one does from the picture you linked |
| 07:56.26 | Thunder_Child | however where they merge i am not sure |
| 07:56.40 | airtonix_ | but isn't that car in the photo on a public road ? |
| 07:56.50 | airtonix_ | are the fences so thin they don' |
| 07:56.59 | airtonix_ | t obstruct the view of the car ? |
| 07:57.18 | airtonix_ | oh they are waist height fences |
| 07:57.35 | airtonix_ | zooming in i can see the waist height poles |
| 07:58.21 | airtonix_ | anyway that was kinda interesting |
| 08:05.23 | karl_w_w | airtonix_: ironic spelling of "Luddites"? |
| 08:05.31 | airtonix_ | umad? |
| 08:05.41 | karl_w_w | negative |
| 08:07.14 | Fisker | sounds mad to me |
| 08:09.41 | mckenziemc | that's called tinnitus, Fisker |
| 08:10.11 | starlon | writes Fisker a government controlled operating system. |
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| 08:30.39 | mckenziemc | earlier i tried to make a comment in a python script with -- , and i just tried to commend a windows .cmd file with # >< |
| 08:30.52 | mckenziemc | comment* |
| 08:31.58 | Corrodias | hilarious |
| 08:32.02 | starlon | comments. |
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| 08:58.25 | airtonix_ | i'm not laughing mckenziemc |
| 08:58.37 | airtonix_ | this is me not laughing |
| 08:59.06 | mckenziemc | umad? |
| 09:02.37 | airtonix_ | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/trollface_monitor.jpg |
| 09:04.31 | Kalroth | thats a good idea, airtonix |
| 09:04.48 | mckenziemc | old airtonix_ |
| 09:04.55 | Kalroth | im going to do that to my own monitors, only ill put boobies instead of trollface |
| 09:05.29 | airtonix_ | wtf |
| 09:05.33 | airtonix_ | http://kuvaton.com/browse/17722/nipple_tattoo.jpg |
| 09:05.42 | airtonix_ | what a try hard |
| 09:10.20 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:21.10 | haste | http://i.imgur.com/UE2ZL.jpg :D |
| 09:25.27 | airtonix_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv8idKEC9mo |
| 09:25.44 | airtonix_ | nsfw if your boss is a neo world facist |
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| 09:27.33 | amro | what's a facist? |
| 09:27.39 | amro | someone who discriminates based on face? |
| 09:27.51 | airtonix_ | your face is a facist |
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| 09:36.17 | Jamash | airtonix_: that further confirms my belief that multinational corporations should not exist, at all |
| 09:36.34 | airtonix_ | yeah my buses don't run on time |
| 09:37.16 | Jamash | also how do I get my own text to appear in a less terrible color in xchat |
| 09:37.40 | Jamash | it's showing as light gray which is slightly less visible than the default for an away user -_- |
| 09:37.45 | airtonix_ | lawl |
| 09:37.48 | airtonix_ | http://i.imgur.com/UE2ZL.jpg |
| 09:38.05 | Jamash | old |
| 09:38.07 | haste | man airtonix_, old |
| 09:38.12 | airtonix_ | gold |
| 09:38.17 | haste | its on the same screen! |
| 09:38.21 | jnwhiteh | old |
| 09:38.25 | Jamash | haste: I beat your old |
| 09:38.28 | Jamash | therefore, old |
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| 09:38.41 | haste | I only say old when the link is visible on my screen :P |
| 09:39.06 | airtonix_ | your face is one the screen |
| 09:39.10 | airtonix_ | :> |
| 09:39.15 | Jamash | so much old it's ALL OVER YOU SCREEN |
| 09:39.41 | haste | old ALL THE THINGS |
| 09:41.22 | Jamash | old man river |
| 09:41.47 | Jamash | dat old man river |
| 09:42.00 | Jamash | he jes' keeps trollin' |
| 09:42.12 | Jamash | he keeps on trollin' along |
| 09:44.18 | Jamash | testing |
| 09:44.30 | Jamash | furrfu |
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| 09:52.17 | Jamash | wow xchat uses weird format strings |
| 09:52.40 | Jamash | http://toxin.jottit.com/xchat_text_events#09 |
| 09:53.33 | haste | they don't look too wierd |
| 09:56.15 | amro | that's because you're norwegian |
| 09:58.32 | haste | oh ok |
| 09:59.30 | airtonix_ | quassel is better |
| 09:59.35 | airtonix_ | xchat like vim sucks |
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| 10:24.18 | Jamash | irc sucks |
| 10:25.58 | Jamash | however quassel does look like it sucks less than other clients I've tried |
| 10:26.09 | Fisker | nah |
| 10:26.18 | Fisker | quassel client sucks pretty hard |
| 10:26.31 | Jamash | what client do you use Fisker |
| 10:26.37 | Fisker | quassel client |
| 10:26.53 | Jamash | cool story bromide |
| 10:27.05 | Fisker | why? |
| 10:27.20 | Jamash | why not? |
| 10:27.35 | Fisker | why not not? |
| 10:27.50 | Jamash | third base! |
| 10:27.57 | Fisker | maybe |
| 10:28.03 | Fisker | i don't see it as a cool story Jamash |
| 10:28.43 | Jamash | I guess you had to be elsewhere |
| 10:29.33 | Fisker | i don't get it Jamash |
| 10:30.22 | Jamash | I guess it was too cool to get |
| 10:30.46 | Fisker | i doubt it |
| 10:31.04 | Jamash | but can you dig it |
| 10:33.37 | Jamash | I keep thinking "man firefox memory usage is out of control" |
| 10:33.44 | Jamash | then I notice that I have 39 tabs open |
| 10:38.08 | Maldivia | so it's you that's out if control instead? :) |
| 10:38.48 | Jamash | I didn't say that |
| 10:39.26 | Fisker | umad Jamash ? |
| 10:42.12 | Jamash | mad magazine |
| 10:45.16 | [Wobin] | Jamash: The client isn't great, but the client/server concept makes up for it |
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| 10:47.11 | Fisker | cool story [Wobin] |
| 10:50.49 | Fisker | no? |
| 10:50.55 | Fisker | Didn't i get it Jamash ? |
| 10:51.31 | Jamash | get what? |
| 10:52.28 | Fisker | wasn't [Wobin]'s testimony a cool story? |
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| 10:52.39 | Jamash | nah |
| 10:53.16 | Fisker | why not? |
| 10:53.51 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/myLOL.jpg |
| 10:54.03 | haste | myLOL |
| 10:54.03 | Fisker | old |
| 10:54.07 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 10:54.09 | Fisker | i'm not well |
| 10:54.47 | haste | is the cancer killing you? |
| 10:54.57 | Fisker | maybe? |
| 10:55.03 | Fisker | however i don't get Jamash |
| 10:55.10 | Fisker | i use Quassel and i think it sucks |
| 10:55.13 | Fisker | it's a cool story |
| 10:55.19 | Fisker | Wobin uses Quassel and he think it sucks |
| 10:55.22 | Fisker | it's not a cool story |
| 10:55.23 | Fisker | :( |
| 10:56.18 | Jamash | too old Fisker |
| 10:56.25 | Jamash | it's only cool the first time |
| 10:56.51 | Fisker | oh ok Jamash |
| 10:57.44 | Jamash | actually it was you saying Quassel sucks more than xchat that was cool |
| 10:58.05 | Jamash | 'cause xchat sucks a lot |
| 10:58.13 | Jamash | in 3D |
| 10:59.05 | Fisker | i would prefer xchat over Quassel |
| 10:59.15 | Jamash | sudo aptitude install xchat |
| 10:59.22 | Fisker | no |
| 11:00.59 | Jamash | how do I get aptitude to show me whether a package is ia-32 or x86-64 |
| 11:35.25 | amro | Jamash: on the cli, I just use apt-cache show package | grep Arch |
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| 11:53.49 | karl_w_w | airtonix_ what realm are you on? |
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| 12:07.00 | airtonix_ | i was on dath remar |
| 12:07.42 | karl_w_w | you poor bastard |
| 12:10.28 | airtonix_ | at least i wasn't on blackrock |
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| 13:21.36 | [Wobin] | I guess I'll buy Skyrim |
| 13:21.48 | [Wobin] | have to load up steam tomorrow to download while I'm at work |
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| 13:22.12 | angayelle | morning people |
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| 13:29.07 | Cide | hi Shirik |
| 13:29.16 | Cide | [Wobin]: isn't preloading available right now? |
| 13:29.26 | amro | die Cide |
| 13:29.27 | amro | hi* |
| 13:29.32 | amro | have you worked with QMdiArea? |
| 13:29.33 | Cide | ohi amro |
| 13:29.38 | Cide | never heard of it |
| 13:29.47 | Cide | what is it? |
| 13:30.12 | amro | well you set it as the central widget of a QMainWindow so you can have a bunch of widgets floating around in it |
| 13:30.17 | Cide | oh |
| 13:30.18 | Cide | nice |
| 13:30.21 | Cide | maybe I'll use that then |
| 13:30.25 | Cide | I'm working on an editor |
| 13:30.30 | amro | that's what I was typing |
| 13:30.34 | amro | I thought you used it in your editor |
| 13:30.38 | amro | you're just using GraphicsScene? |
| 13:30.40 | amro | or whatever it's called |
| 13:30.44 | Cide | nah |
| 13:30.51 | Cide | right now I use SFML |
| 13:31.01 | Cide | which is a wrapper around opengl |
| 13:31.22 | Cide | so I use a custom opengl window which acts as a QWidget |
| 13:31.35 | Cide | so I just draw to that directly |
| 13:31.56 | Cide | which is what I had as my QMainWindow |
| 13:32.01 | Cide | or the center widget rather |
| 13:32.03 | Cide | of the QMW |
| 13:32.16 | Cide | and then a tool dock on the right/left |
| 13:32.33 | Cide | but QMdiArea sounds useful |
| 13:33.29 | Cide | my plan was to have a tab bar for the central widget but maybe the qmdiarea works better |
| 13:34.14 | amro | I'm going to add the gl widget later for the actual game view |
| 13:34.21 | amro | for now I'm working on other tools |
| 13:34.35 | Cide | my plan was to basically have the game view as part of the editor |
| 13:34.46 | Cide | basically automatic WYSIWYG |
| 13:35.23 | [Wobin] | Cide: yeah, but I'm about to head to bed =) Computer isn't on when I sleep |
| 13:35.32 | Cide | it's skyrim |
| 13:35.34 | Cide | make an exception |
| 13:35.48 | [Wobin] | I can't sleep with the computer running =( |
| 13:35.58 | [Wobin] | and I have DnD tomorrow evening anyway |
| 13:36.00 | amro | that's what I'm doing as well, except I'll have a special sandbox view too |
| 13:36.06 | amro | for testing out a single object or whatever |
| 13:36.06 | [Wobin] | it'll be a weekend thing |
| 13:36.22 | karl_w_w | you need a quieter computer [Wobin] :P |
| 13:36.45 | amro | here's what I have so far http://static.mninja.org/images/toolset.png |
| 13:37.16 | amro | I plan to add a class view listing only gameplay-pertinent objects defined in lua, and to be able to drag/drop them into the game view for spawning |
| 13:38.01 | [Wobin] | karl_w_w: all donations to "Buy Wobin a Quieter Computer" welcome =) |
| 13:38.16 | karl_w_w | oh ok |
| 13:38.26 | [Wobin] | I've tried building a 'quiet' computer |
| 13:38.31 | [Wobin] | usually more effort than it's worth |
| 13:38.33 | karl_w_w | I have... a paper napkin |
| 13:38.42 | karl_w_w | and 6 marbles |
| 13:38.54 | karl_w_w | will they help? |
| 13:38.54 | [Wobin] | quite possibly! |
| 13:39.06 | [Wobin] | we'll cover our faces with the napkin |
| 13:39.16 | karl_w_w | my pc was cheap as |
| 13:39.20 | [Wobin] | and throw the marbles under the security guards when they take the money from the ATMs |
| 13:39.24 | karl_w_w | and its pretty damn quiet |
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| 13:41.02 | [Wobin] | this computer is a few years old |
| 13:41.21 | karl_w_w | had this one since the start of 2010 |
| 13:41.44 | amro | if you have a tiny box, you don't stand a chance of making it quiet (and decently cool) |
| 13:42.08 | amro | I have a really quiet fan but it barely fits in the chassis, and it's a pretty big chassis |
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| 13:42.12 | karl_w_w | I bet you tell that to all the girls |
| 13:42.25 | [Wobin] | had this one since 2008 |
| 13:42.34 | [Wobin] | the graphics card has held up quite well |
| 13:42.38 | amro | that is so 2008 |
| 13:42.40 | amro | get a new computer |
| 13:42.45 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 13:43.01 | [Wobin] | all donations to "Buy Wobin a Quieter Computer" fund welcome =) |
| 13:43.03 | amro | also, the generation of gfx cards from 2006-2008 has had the longest lifetime ever |
| 13:43.13 | [Wobin] | amro: for which I'm quite thankful |
| 13:43.23 | amro | yeah, I still have one |
| 13:43.32 | [Wobin] | hugs his 8800 GTX |
| 13:43.36 | amro | even though I bought a new computer this summer, I kept the card |
| 13:44.26 | amro | I think it's mostly because of the stabilization of shader units, now you just upgrade your drivers for feature X instead of getting a new card |
| 13:49.03 | karl_w_w | except you wont have true dx11 with one of those old things :P |
| 13:49.14 | amro | what's "true dx11"? |
| 13:49.39 | karl_w_w | those cards are really dx10 with some dx11 features glued onto them |
| 13:49.41 | amro | you won't get changes to the pipeline, sure |
| 13:49.43 | karl_w_w | but they have problems |
| 13:50.01 | karl_w_w | like water not working in wow :P |
| 13:50.19 | [Wobin] | never really wanted the water to work in WoW |
| 13:50.23 | [Wobin] | too distracting |
| 13:50.51 | [Wobin] | I remember squinting for a bit, then turning it off |
| 13:50.52 | Cide | fuck swimming |
| 13:51.01 | Cide | amro: nice |
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| 14:09.15 | amro | Cide: have you ever added right click menus to list/treeviews? |
| 14:09.24 | Cide | nope |
| 14:09.34 | Cide | I haven't dealt that much with most qwidget classes |
| 14:09.42 | Cide | was mostly when I used pyside that I did a lot of gui stuff |
| 14:09.51 | Cide | now I'm just starting out but with the C++ side |
| 14:10.01 | amro | oh |
| 14:10.10 | Cide | but no, I haven't |
| 14:10.37 | amro | the gui bits aren't as polished as QtCore |
| 14:10.42 | amro | at least that's what I'm finding |
| 14:10.54 | Cide | I absolutely despise slots and signals |
| 14:11.00 | Cide | the whole meta compilation crap |
| 14:11.31 | Cide | at least I've gotten to the point where visual studio does almost all of it automatically |
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| 14:13.39 | amro | Cide: quit failing and use cmake |
| 14:13.49 | amro | the latest version even automatically detects files than need moc |
| 14:13.50 | Cide | why? :P |
| 14:13.54 | Cide | that's nice |
| 14:14.01 | Cide | but isn't cmake integration with VS pretty crappy? |
| 14:14.08 | Cide | or does vs manage cmakefiles for you |
| 14:14.09 | amro | well, it compiles |
| 14:14.14 | Cide | cmakelists I should say |
| 14:14.15 | amro | no, it doesn't |
| 14:14.21 | amro | cmakelists manages the vstudio project |
| 14:14.27 | Cide | ah, yeah |
| 14:14.32 | Cide | that's even worse |
| 14:14.35 | amro | but, you get crossplatform build support |
| 14:14.44 | Cide | shrug |
| 14:14.48 | amro | well, I think vstudio sucks so I am biased |
| 14:14.49 | Cide | I'll just code it in VS |
| 14:14.53 | amro | and kdevelop does directly support cmakelists |
| 14:15.00 | Cide | yeah |
| 14:15.02 | amro | but no kdevelop on windows yet |
| 14:15.11 | Cide | kdevelop has shit C++11 support though |
| 14:15.14 | Cide | or it did when I used it |
| 14:15.17 | amro | er |
| 14:15.19 | amro | it's good |
| 14:15.32 | Cide | it made squiggly lines on most C++11 features besides auto for me |
| 14:15.43 | amro | it works fine here even with lambdas |
| 14:15.46 | Cide | oh, nice |
| 14:15.54 | Cide | I reformatted my comp to test out windows 8 |
| 14:16.04 | Cide | and naively destroyed my fedora install |
| 14:16.13 | amro | good, get ubuntu :P |
| 14:16.16 | Cide | why |
| 14:16.29 | amro | because I don't know fedora and I'm self-centered like that |
| 14:16.35 | Cide | maybe fedora isn't much better but I prefer to not get laughed at when I mention which distro I use? |
| 14:16.54 | Cide | and I like visual studio, plus porting the project to cmake is pretty easy |
| 14:17.03 | amro | only presumptuous idiots laugh at ubuntu |
| 14:17.05 | Cide | for compilation on linux/mac |
| 14:17.11 | amro | well, if you can do that, then yeah sure |
| 14:17.59 | Cide | I haven't figured out if it's possible but |
| 14:18.03 | Cide | I don't think it is |
| 14:18.09 | amro | and if you are using vstudio for development rather than just compiling, it's true that the cmake output project suck |
| 14:18.15 | Cide | the fact that I cannot create a CMakeLists.txt inside a subdir |
| 14:18.26 | Cide | and define the files to compile recursively |
| 14:18.31 | amro | you can |
| 14:18.34 | Cide | how? |
| 14:18.37 | Cide | I never got it to work |
| 14:18.42 | amro | add_subdirectory |
| 14:19.03 | Cide | you mean just having each subdir define a variable? |
| 14:19.20 | Cide | and then list each subdir's variable in the ADD_EXECUTABLE call or whatever |
| 14:19.27 | amro | no, each subdir defines a target |
| 14:19.32 | Cide | oh? |
| 14:19.35 | amro | ah, you still want to control everything from the main cmakelists? |
| 14:19.40 | Cide | no |
| 14:19.42 | amro | hold on, let me pastebin my stuff |
| 14:19.46 | Cide | but that's what I thought you meant |
| 14:20.02 | Cide | like you mean one subdirectory per target? |
| 14:20.07 | Cide | because I'd like to split up the code logically |
| 14:20.16 | Cide | and not just one big cmakelist per target |
| 14:20.28 | Cide | unless "target" means something else than I think it does |
| 14:21.27 | amro | why would you want a cmakelists for a subset of files that isn't self-contained? |
| 14:22.02 | Cide | same reason I use virtual folders in VS |
| 14:22.05 | Cide | logical separation |
| 14:22.31 | amro | what I do is separate them logically on the filesystem, which should be done anyway |
| 14:22.38 | amro | and use variables in the cmakelists |
| 14:22.42 | amro | http://paste2.org/p/1769864 |
| 14:22.44 | amro | that's the main one |
| 14:23.07 | Cide | yeah, I guess variables works |
| 14:23.09 | amro | http://paste2.org/p/1769865 |
| 14:23.16 | Cide | I had that realization above like you can see :P |
| 14:23.19 | amro | that one is newish I haven't gotten around to cleaning it up |
| 14:23.54 | amro | on a bigger cmakelists I have stuff like set (LUA_C_SOURCES lua/lapi lua/lauxlib lua/lbaselib lua/lcode lua/ldblib lua/ldebug lua/ldo lua/ldump ...) etc |
| 14:24.09 | Cide | what are those? |
| 14:24.11 | Cide | cpp files? |
| 14:24.20 | amro | .c filse |
| 14:24.22 | amro | files* |
| 14:24.24 | Cide | oh, yeah |
| 14:24.29 | amro | cmake automatically detects usually |
| 14:24.30 | Cide | I thought you had to list the extension |
| 14:24.45 | amro | only when cmake fails hard and guesses .h or whatever |
| 14:24.57 | Cide | gotcha |
| 14:25.32 | amro | it also depends on the command. for example moc commands accept both .hh and .cc, so you have to be explicit as you can see in the second paste |
| 14:26.01 | Cide | ya |
| 14:26.24 | amro | but the only problem is that the generated vstudio project won't have any virutal folders or organization whatsoever, and it will only list the .cxx files |
| 14:26.42 | amro | I wish vstudio had a decent filesystem view like kdevelop |
| 14:27.06 | Cide | why do you need a filesystem view? :P |
| 14:27.11 | Cide | well I guess if you use cmake you kinda do |
| 14:27.34 | amro | it's not for cmake, it's just to see the structure of the application |
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| 14:27.41 | amro | I don't even use it all that often |
| 14:27.44 | Cide | that's what the folders are for |
| 14:27.46 | amro | usually, I just use kdevelop's quickopen |
| 14:27.51 | Cide | or filters rather |
| 14:27.52 | amro | which is the BEST THING EVER |
| 14:28.21 | Cide | yeah it's nice |
| 14:28.41 | amro | but the class view in vstudio was COMPLETELY broken last I used it |
| 14:29.03 | amro | combined with no virtual folders or fs view or quick open, I would actually reboot to linux when I was porting it to make big changes |
| 14:29.25 | Cide | no virtual folders due to cmake making the project surely |
| 14:29.30 | amro | yes |
| 14:29.38 | Cide | and class view seems a bit buggy |
| 14:29.40 | amro | and since it REMAKES the project I can't add them myself either |
| 14:29.42 | Cide | it lists one class like 7 times |
| 14:29.49 | amro | yeah that's what was happening |
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| 14:31.29 | amro | easily solved if there's a way to add virtual folders using cmake |
| 14:31.36 | Cide | yeah |
| 14:31.52 | Cide | but cmake has like the shittiest documentation ever invented |
| 14:31.56 | Cide | it is worse than no documentation |
| 14:31.57 | amro | oh yeah |
| 14:32.39 | amro | it took me a while to figure out how to declare a macro that has parens |
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| 14:36.31 | amro | Cide: btw, use Cg instead of GLSL |
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| 15:20.23 | Fisker | Wobin |
| 15:20.24 | Fisker | srsly? |
| 15:20.28 | Fisker | it's out in australia? |
| 15:20.32 | Fisker | I'm moving to australia? |
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| 15:37.19 | Cide | amro: why? |
| 15:39.09 | Cide | does Cg compile to GLSL or to a lower level opengl shader thing? |
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| 15:42.25 | amro | Cide: it compiles to GLSL or directly to the card I think |
| 15:42.42 | amro | either way, it's compatible with d3d in case you ever want to port, and it's pretty much HLSL so you have more resources |
| 15:43.21 | Cide | that's cool |
| 15:43.24 | Cide | thanks |
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| 16:10.28 | Fisker | http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197960327485/screenshot/613842195042770038 |
| 16:10.29 | Fisker | hurr hurr |
| 16:11.00 | Ackis | cardgame? |
| 16:11.10 | Mr_Rabies | cardgames...on motorcycles?! |
| 16:11.41 | Fisker | dude Ackis |
| 16:11.42 | Fisker | not cool |
| 16:11.53 | Ackis | ? |
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| 16:29.28 | Torhal|work | installs Ackis on Fisker. |
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| 16:29.56 | starlon | installs Fisker on Torhal|work. |
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| 16:30.08 | Torhal|work | trolls starlon incessantly. |
| 16:30.28 | starlon | : |
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| 16:39.08 | Ackis | poops on Torhal|work |
| 16:40.18 | Kraps_w | what is it with you and using bodily functions on people Ackis |
| 16:41.47 | [Wobin] | haha |
| 16:41.55 | [Wobin] | 1.1 skyrim already out =P |
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| 16:51.19 | Stanzilla | skyrim is like 5gb, I don't want to know what they did to the textures to make it that small |
| 16:54.00 | Torhal|work | So mean, Ackis. |
| 16:54.23 | amro | I know what they're going to do to the textures to make them big |
| 16:54.40 | Dagmar | Oh crap that comes out tomorrow |
| 16:54.48 | Dagmar | rushes to BewEgg |
| 16:54.51 | nevcairiel | not worth bothering, imho |
| 16:54.52 | Dagmar | er NewEgg |
| 16:55.13 | nevcairiel | I still don't get what all the excitement is about |
| 16:55.14 | Dagmar | Well, I gotta at least analyze what my potential hardware upgrades will need to be |
| 16:55.18 | nevcairiel | all i've seen looked boring |
| 16:55.32 | starlon | boils the NewEgg for breakfast. |
| 16:55.40 | Dagmar | We're all hoping that this will be the release where they get the combat to work right without excess ragdoll and lag |
| 16:56.10 | Corrodias | and a levelling system that isn't completely silly, that'd be nice |
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| 17:03.12 | [Wobin] | I'm considering getting a new graphics card |
| 17:03.17 | [Wobin] | now that I'm running skyrim |
| 17:05.04 | Ackis | Torhal|work: I e-mailed that pic to Mike but never got a response |
| 17:05.21 | Torhal|work | Dunno man. |
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| 17:08.15 | Lunessa | station |
| 17:08.22 | Fisker | they're not that bad Stanzilla |
| 17:11.02 | Ackis | well you work with him :P |
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| 17:20.26 | Lunessa | Hey there Zorba. |
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| 17:36.24 | Cide | so |
| 17:36.34 | Cide | my G930 wireless headset gets this massive noise |
| 17:36.38 | Cide | but only while I'm downloading |
| 17:36.51 | Cide | I also have a wireless router but I can't believe that would interfere? |
| 17:37.12 | Cide | (my computer is wired) |
| 17:37.24 | Cide | any ideas? :P |
| 17:37.46 | amro | a lot of weird things interfere, I once saw a joystick make a soundcard go mad |
| 17:38.06 | amro | but check if it changes based on proximity to: router, cellphone, etc |
| 17:38.09 | Lunessa | Cide: It's probably the wifi or other device conflicting. |
| 17:38.21 | Cide | think it might work if I change wifi settings? |
| 17:38.36 | amro | try disabling wifi, esp if you're not using it |
| 17:38.42 | Cide | my girlfriend is |
| 17:38.53 | Ackis | Cide: my headset has issues when the microwave is on (same headset) so it might be the wireless |
| 17:39.34 | Lunessa | Also, how many smartphones are in proximity? |
| 17:39.42 | amro | try disabling your girlfriend, she may be broadcasting on nonstandard frequencies |
| 17:39.48 | Cide | yeah, it's definitely wifi |
| 17:39.53 | Cide | that was easy enough to check -_- |
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| 17:41.04 | Cide | tried changing channel, we'll see |
| 17:43.28 | pompy1 | http://gamerant.com/skyrim-infinite-quests-row-115565/ :O |
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| 17:59.14 | ZorbaGama | heya lunessa :) my connection is having trouble for some reason |
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| 17:59.36 | Lunessa | SO I see. |
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| 18:32.20 | Caribou| | I'd like to grab the id of any item clicked in my bags/inventory/bank, should i register an event for each frame ? |
| 18:33.37 | Caribou| | if so, do i really need to hardcode each of them ContainerFrame1Item7, ContainerFrame1Item8... |
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| 18:39.56 | amro | Caribou|: no, you can do it in a loop like: for i = 1, n do --something with _G["ContainerFrame1Item" .. n] end |
| 18:40.23 | amro | where n is the number of containerframe items |
| 18:40.58 | Caribou| | how do you know that ? I mean where is the doc for this ? :D |
| 18:41.03 | Caribou| | (and thanks) |
| 18:41.34 | amro | ~pil |
| 18:41.34 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 18:41.51 | amro | _G is a table containing all globals |
| 18:41.57 | Caribou| | ah ! |
| 18:42.00 | amro | so if there's a pattern in the names as is the case, you can generalize the work |
| 18:42.11 | Caribou| | ok the rest is lua syntax then |
| 18:43.02 | Caribou| | ahh that's just a concatenation i didn't see that *facepalm* |
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| 19:00.34 | Thunder_Child | i may be misremembering things, but i dont recollect tintin using a deagle |
| 19:12.01 | alestane | He often had a revolver, or occasionally a semi-auto. |
| 19:12.29 | alestane | Actually, I think a semi-auto pistol was more common. |
| 19:13.01 | alestane | Of course, I don't recall if he actually owned a firearm, or just kept taking them away from villains. |
| 19:13.02 | Fisker | don't you mean a white flag alestane ? |
| 19:13.10 | Fisker | get it? |
| 19:13.19 | alestane | I sort of hope not to. |
| 19:13.44 | Fisker | :( |
| 19:13.49 | Fisker | because he's french etc. |
| 19:14.00 | alestane | Tintin is actually not French. |
| 19:14.19 | alestane | The character is, AFAIK, English; he lives in London. |
| 19:14.23 | Fisker | >:O? |
| 19:14.39 | alestane | And even his creator was not French; Hergé was from Belgium. |
| 19:15.53 | Fisker | french and belgian is basically the same thing |
| 19:16.05 | alestane | Don't let a Belgian hear you say that. |
| 19:16.13 | Fisker | nah you're right |
| 19:16.22 | Fisker | the french doesn't shit on the walls of their restrooms |
| 19:16.25 | Fisker | :3 |
| 19:18.17 | Fisker | should i skyrim or should i watch a movie? |
| 19:18.26 | Thunder_Child | both |
| 19:18.44 | Kraps_w | what movie? Fisker |
| 19:18.55 | Fisker | stargate continuum |
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| 19:23.15 | Alram | no |
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| 19:47.33 | Torhal|work | installs Terraria on Fisker. |
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| 19:55.48 | Lunessa | devs WoWUI |
| 19:59.13 | Caribou| | alestane >:o |
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| 20:19.09 | Adys | Arrowmaster: any idea how to install moonlight on debian/ubuntu? |
| 20:19.17 | Adys | i can only find 3 year old packages that dont exist anymore |
| 20:19.30 | Arrowmaster | because thats how old the current moonlight is |
| 20:19.38 | Arrowmaster | dont fucking bother with it, it wont work |
| 20:20.00 | Arrowmaster | unless you want to use silverlight 1.0 dont even attempt to use moonlight |
| 20:20.20 | Adys | http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/download.aspx |
| 20:20.20 | Adys | hm |
| 20:20.55 | Arrowmaster | last i checked a version supporting sliverlight 2.0 was still experimental back when silverlight 4 was out |
| 20:21.30 | Arrowmaster | and i gave up on the project knowing it will never work as needed |
| 20:23.15 | Dagmar | I like to think they wised up to Microsoft's gmae |
| 20:24.24 | Adys | how so? |
| 20:25.16 | Dagmar | Microsoft developing a bad language, stopping 3/4 of the way through the process, and then letting the opensource hippies struggle to reimplement it, forcing them to find the biggest chunks of stupid and report them instead of wasting their own paid developer time |
| 20:25.52 | Dagmar | ...and ever time they got close to completion, Microsoft moves the target. |
| 20:26.10 | nevcairiel | Moonlight was never close to target. :p |
| 20:26.16 | Dagmar | Mono works fine, so they start rolling out Silverlight to make things even more hellishly complex |
| 20:26.39 | Dagmar | ...and then suddenly every .NET project "needs" Silverlight |
| 20:26.47 | Arrowmaster | exactly, its always been at least 2 versions behind meaning IT DOESNT WORK ON ANY SITES YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY WANT TO USE IT ON |
| 20:27.17 | Arrowmaster | at least they announced they are killing off silverlight |
| 20:27.59 | nevcairiel | and adobe is killing off flash (at least on mobile), some good times ahead |
| 20:28.02 | Arrowmaster | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K27GuSSha0s |
| 20:28.31 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: that shop keeper sure could use some AI |
| 20:28.40 | Arrowmaster | keep watching |
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| 20:43.52 | amro | Arrowmaster: what sites might those be? |
| 20:44.20 | amro | save for that olympics stream, I've never seen silverlight live |
| 20:44.56 | Arrowmaster | well the reason i first tried to use it was because i wanted to see the better player stats on bungies site |
| 20:45.01 | nevcairiel | we have a Video On Demand page here which uses silverlight |
| 20:45.12 | nevcairiel | well not sure if they still do |
| 20:45.15 | nevcairiel | used to anyway! |
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| 20:45.27 | Arrowmaster | also parts of xbox.com use silverlight |
| 20:46.02 | Arrowmaster | but since both of the examples i mentioned are related to microsoft they always use the most recent version of silverlight |
| 20:48.07 | Nechckn | nevcairiel Just think of all of those "Flash-only" devs, shakin' in their boots. |
| 20:48.29 | Nechckn | feels for 'em and all, but a bit of chaos is occassionally fun to see. |
| 20:48.57 | Arrowmaster | how the fuck do i block these game messages on facebook now |
| 20:49.23 | Arrowmaster | i click on the message and it shows nothing at all because im blocking the site the game is on |
| 20:52.20 | Nechckn | In the dropdown menu, no? |
| 20:52.50 | Nechckn | when you hover over message, in the right, then chose block <app>. |
| 20:53.00 | Nechckn | Or does the whole line not appear, Arrowmaster? |
| 20:53.21 | Thunder_Child | sounds like he blocked the app but is still getting the messages |
| 20:53.22 | Arrowmaster | im not talking about in the feed, im actually getting sent messages |
| 20:53.57 | Nechckn | Oh, oh... sorry, was not understanding the what/where. |
| 20:54.30 | Arrowmaster | i think i found it |
| 20:54.44 | Nechckn | the report message thing? |
| 20:54.49 | Arrowmaster | instead of clicking on the message i had to goto the 'all messages' page |
| 20:55.06 | Arrowmaster | where there was an X next to the message to click on and change the 'app settings' |
| 20:55.22 | Nechckn | Ah, gotcha |
| 20:55.48 | Arrowmaster | clicking on the message sends me to a mostly blank page because noscript is blocking zynga crap |
| 20:56.27 | Nechckn | But, but... how will you know when I bug you for goodies? |
| 20:57.18 | Lunessa | How will you know i need help to find the Cell Phone in Mafia Wars (*stab* Zynga *stab* DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE you fucking sleazy company! DIE!) |
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| 20:59.33 | Nechckn | Interesting, at least - http://wepartypatriots.com/wp/2011/11/09/get-a-what-a-job-70-of-occupy-wall-streeters-are-employed-compared-to-56-of-tea-partiers/ |
| 21:00.24 | Arrowmaster | wtf, an xbox system update now? |
| 21:13.27 | Arrowmaster | I have the new dashbaord now |
| 21:15.02 | Lunessa | Elder Scrolls web site FAIL. WTF can't I find the system requirements on the page? |
| 21:16.17 | Maldivia | skyrim? |
| 21:16.22 | Lunessa | Yeah |
| 21:16.29 | Maldivia | http://store.steampowered.com/app/72850/ |
| 21:16.36 | amro | sysrq are hardly accurate nowadays |
| 21:16.39 | Maldivia | system requirements are always easy to find on steam :P |
| 21:17.00 | Lunessa | I never use my steam account… since I have like… what, 2 games in it. |
| 21:17.14 | Lunessa | And WTF isn't it on the game's web site? |
| 21:17.46 | Maldivia | might be, but always on the actual store page on steam, so I look there first for such info :P |
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| 21:19.05 | foxlit | I don't know whether I've ever purchased a game based on its website |
| 21:19.31 | Maldivia | webgames? :) |
| 21:19.39 | foxlit | that you buy? |
| 21:19.39 | Cide | AND PORTAL, LUNESSA |
| 21:19.53 | Lunessa | But I go to a game's site to check out if I WANT to buy it. And so all the things that should entice me and inform me should be there. |
| 21:20.05 | Maldivia | Lunessa: I can't even get to the game site, it f ails to load correctly here |
| 21:20.10 | Lunessa | Cide: That's one of the TWO games I have in Steam (thanks) |
| 21:20.25 | Cide | haha |
| 21:20.29 | Cide | steam is awesome imo |
| 21:20.32 | Maldivia | TF2? |
| 21:22.48 | Lunessa | The two games I have a Portal and Magicka. |
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| 21:23.08 | Cide | good choices |
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| 21:23.55 | Lunessa | Next time Civ V goes on sale, I'll probably buy that too. But if I do, I'll *never* finish my novel. |
| 21:24.03 | Thunder_Child | read later |
| 21:24.15 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: Not reading. |
| 21:24.29 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa: i know, i just felt like messing with you |
| 21:24.35 | Lunessa | Natch. |
| 21:24.36 | Fisker | http://steamcommunity.com/id/Fisker/screenshot/613842195047549431/?tab=public <-deymad |
| 21:24.56 | Thunder_Child | i thought you already had civ5 though |
| 21:27.13 | Lunessa | Can't find my discs and redid my machine a while back = no civ v for me. |
| 21:28.28 | Shirik | did anyone watch the presidential debate last night? |
| 21:28.36 | mikma | no |
| 21:28.39 | Shirik | This is what I got out of Cain: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcFuLeSnbdE&t=1m7s |
| 21:28.57 | Fisker | hey Lunessa |
| 21:29.19 | Fisker | you need to register civ 5 on steam |
| 21:29.20 | Fisker | you lose |
| 21:29.22 | Fisker | good day sir |
| 21:30.14 | Fisker | yugodwin Shirik ? |
| 21:30.33 | Shirik | ? |
| 21:32.09 | Cide | hi Shirik |
| 21:32.15 | Shirik | hi |
| 21:32.20 | Cide | when are you getting bf3 |
| 21:32.21 | amro | Shirik: resist the urge to watch cain make a tool out of himself and instead fix recursion of lambdas declared with auto |
| 21:32.30 | Fisker | why not get MW3 Cide ? |
| 21:32.38 | Cide | bf3 is Made in Sweden |
| 21:32.43 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 21:32.53 | Shirik | sweden > finland is what he's saying |
| 21:32.54 | Fisker | think swedish tax payers get any of that dough? |
| 21:32.58 | Fisker | i agree |
| 21:33.05 | Fisker | but norway > sweden |
| 21:33.09 | Fisker | Denmark > Norway |
| 21:33.09 | Shirik | unlikely |
| 21:33.13 | Fisker | likely |
| 21:33.14 | Shirik | also unlikely |
| 21:33.21 | Fisker | i disagre |
| 21:33.23 | Fisker | disagree |
| 21:33.26 | Fisker | what about you haste ? |
| 21:33.42 | amro | no means norway |
| 21:33.47 | mikma | haste > fisker |
| 21:34.01 | Shirik | bool IsUsaBetterThanState(State state) { return state != USA; } |
| 21:34.29 | Cide | two things |
| 21:34.34 | Cide | why would you not pass state by const reference |
| 21:34.51 | Shirik | how do you know this is C++! |
| 21:34.58 | Cide | who said I did? |
| 21:35.11 | Shirik | what other language has a concept of a const reference |
| 21:35.17 | Cide | Cidelang |
| 21:35.22 | Shirik | ok |
| 21:35.30 | Cide | so the question remains |
| 21:35.30 | karl_w_w | Cide++ |
| 21:35.42 | amro | shh, you might accidentally give him karma |
| 21:35.47 | Shirik | #define State const State& |
| 21:35.47 | amro | it takes ours to get him off that high |
| 21:35.49 | Cide | and why would you name a class State when you mean Country |
| 21:35.49 | Shirik | done |
| 21:35.59 | amro | die shirik |
| 21:36.09 | Shirik | uh |
| 21:36.16 | Shirik | because that's what a state is |
| 21:36.20 | Cide | but it's confusing |
| 21:36.25 | Cide | when your states aren't exactly countries are they |
| 21:36.48 | amro | at least typedef it |
| 21:36.54 | Cide | yeah |
| 21:36.57 | Cide | it's not C... |
| 21:37.15 | Shirik | no amro |
| 21:37.21 | Shirik | because then I would have had to call it something different |
| 21:37.28 | Cide | like Country |
| 21:37.30 | Shirik | you can't typedef State const State&; |
| 21:37.48 | amro | probably because you go those backward |
| 21:38.42 | Cide | can you like |
| 21:39.03 | Shirik | amro you can't do it anyway! |
| 21:39.05 | Shirik | not the point! |
| 21:39.25 | amro | try and stop me! |
| 21:39.29 | amro | gcc at least doesn't seem to mind |
| 21:39.36 | Shirik | uh |
| 21:39.42 | Torhal|work | watches as amro vaporizes Shirik's mind. |
| 21:40.06 | Thunder_Child | hands Torhal|work some popcorn |
| 21:40.06 | Shirik | http://codepad.org/b4JcagfM |
| 21:40.11 | Shirik | gcc does seem to mind |
| 21:40.42 | Stanzilla | I just killed Attumen so fast that he didn't mount up and I didn't get loot |
| 21:40.44 | Cide | std::function<void(int)> fun; fun = [&fun](int n) { return n<=2 ? 1 : (fun(n-1) + fun(n-2)); } |
| 21:40.56 | Stanzilla | and then the GM told me I was too fast that even their logs are empty |
| 21:41.01 | Cide | or is that invalid since the assignment happens after the ref capture |
| 21:41.02 | amro | Shirik: what version? |
| 21:41.22 | Shirik | I don't know it's codepad |
| 21:41.24 | Shirik | but it's right |
| 21:41.29 | Shirik | you're not allowed to typedef over something |
| 21:41.39 | Shirik | it's a redefinition |
| 21:41.44 | Fisker | oh hai? |
| 21:41.48 | Maldivia | Cide: s/fun/fib/ :P |
| 21:42.03 | Cide | still |
| 21:42.09 | Shirik | also Cide I believe that's legal |
| 21:42.15 | amro | Shirik: I'm not arguing that, I'm just saying I *can* do it just to spite you |
| 21:42.29 | Shirik | in the same way you can have a local named the same as a global |
| 21:42.48 | Shirik | but admittedly I've never tried |
| 21:43.04 | amro | that wouldn't work because you've declared it to return void |
| 21:43.10 | Cide | http://codepad.org/XrWUBJwl |
| 21:43.12 | amro | but other than that yes |
| 21:43.13 | Cide | did I miss something |
| 21:43.27 | Cide | oh |
| 21:43.28 | Shirik | yes |
| 21:43.31 | Cide | int(int) I mean |
| 21:43.54 | Cide | oh I guess I need main .. |
| 21:44.06 | amro | nah, you need --std=c++0x |
| 21:44.11 | amro | dunno if codepad is on that |
| 21:44.18 | Shirik | the fact that codepad doesn't support C++0x |
| 21:44.24 | Cide | C++11 |
| 21:44.26 | Shirik | (I had to double check before I said that) |
| 21:44.27 | Cide | get with the times |
| 21:44.29 | Shirik | no |
| 21:44.30 | Shirik | I refuse |
| 21:44.34 | nevcairiel | i was going to say that, they named it finally. :p |
| 21:44.36 | Shirik | I will call it C++0B |
| 21:44.50 | Cide | C++0xB you mean |
| 21:44.58 | amro | technically we're still using c++0x until the compilers catch up |
| 21:45.21 | nevcairiel | you probably havent been using c++0x either, if you want to go down that route |
| 21:45.33 | Maldivia | C++013 :P |
| 21:45.35 | Lunessa | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/11/judge-rules-feds-can-have-wikileaks-associates-twitter-data.ars |
| 21:47.03 | Cide | but yes, it works |
| 21:47.10 | Shirik | WAT |
| 21:47.14 | Shirik | why no one told me ios 5.0.1 |
| 21:47.22 | foxlit | "dealing a victory to prosecutors" |
| 21:47.24 | Lunessa | Shirik: Just out today |
| 21:47.28 | Cide | why did not your phone do it |
| 21:47.42 | Shirik | why DID my phone not do it |
| 21:47.52 | foxlit | Strange expression |
| 21:47.57 | amro | why phone not it do did |
| 21:48.50 | Lunessa | Welcome to English, where time, tense, and case get munged in new and exciting ways. |
| 21:48.59 | foxlit | wtf, ars |
| 21:49.10 | amro | ars yourself |
| 21:49.13 | foxlit | slashdot quotes Wired with the same opening sentence. |
| 21:49.44 | Lunessa | Wired and Ars writers overlap a lot |
| 21:50.04 | amro | people still read slashdot? |
| 21:50.07 | Shirik | HAO TO UPDATE GET |
| 21:50.24 | Lunessa | Shirik: use iTunes, bish |
| 21:50.36 | Shirik | bleh |
| 21:50.36 | foxlit | settings -> general -> software update |
| 21:50.38 | Shirik | I hate itunes |
| 21:50.42 | Shirik | <3 foxlit |
| 21:50.56 | Shirik | I'm too old to understand iphones |
| 21:53.15 | Cide | that's like saying you're too dumb to breathe |
| 21:53.32 | foxlit | hm, homm6 |
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| 21:54.13 | Fisker | that game doesn't even exist foxlit |
| 21:54.35 | foxlit | A Fisker for details, eh |
| 21:54.43 | Fisker | indeed |
| 21:54.54 | kd3|netbook | whee having a pop test (not a pop quiz...) in discrete |
| 21:54.56 | Maldivia | foxlit: "homm" is the voice you'll be saying, while trying to meditate over the amount of bugs in the game |
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| 21:55.10 | amro | hohoho |
| 21:55.22 | kd3|netbook | welcome back! |
| 21:55.28 | Cairenn | Thanks |
| 21:55.55 | Maldivia | hands Cairenn a basket full of muffins |
| 21:56.02 | Cairenn | :) |
| 21:56.04 | Cairenn | Thanks Maldivia |
| 21:56.11 | Cide | hey Cairenn, welcome back! |
| 21:56.27 | Arrowmaster | welcome back! |
| 21:56.37 | Cairenn | Thanks guys |
| 21:56.51 | Cairenn | Thanks for all the lovely flowers & teddy bears & text messages too |
| 21:57.05 | Cairenn | Really helped cheer me up when I was feeling so terrible |
| 21:57.11 | amro | yes, welcome back. also, nothing happened |
| 21:57.11 | amro | Shirik: does msvc have std::thread support? |
| 21:58.07 | Maldivia | well, teddy bears do fend off monsters very nicely :) |
| 21:58.23 | Cairenn | yes, yes they do |
| 21:58.47 | jnwhiteh | *hugs* Cairenn |
| 21:58.48 | jnwhiteh | !! |
| 21:59.03 | Cairenn | hugs jnwhiteh back |
| 21:59.06 | Cairenn | I missed you guys |
| 21:59.26 | Cairenn | Well, once I was feeling well enough to miss anything |
| 21:59.46 | Cairenn | The first couple days, they had me so stoned, I didn't know if I was coming or going. |
| 22:00.15 | kd3|netbook | eesh |
| 22:00.36 | Cairenn | Dilaudid is wonderful stuff :p |
| 22:02.01 | kd3|netbook | yay high-powered opioids |
| 22:02.10 | Cairenn | Indeed |
| 22:02.25 | kd3|netbook | is it bad that I remember stuff from my AP chem presentation on analgesics? that took place almost 10 years ago? |
| 22:02.30 | kd3|netbook | sighs |
| 22:02.30 | Cairenn | I seriously do not remember much after they first admitted me, that Monday is just a blur |
| 22:04.24 | Maldivia | kd3: if you were a doctor, I would hope you still remembered it... but since you're not... well |
| 22:04.34 | amro | kd3|netbook: remembering stuff is usually a good thing |
| 22:04.50 | Lunessa | Yay! Cairenn! |
| 22:05.04 | Cairenn | hey Lunessa :) |
| 22:07.06 | syrae | hrm |
| 22:07.14 | syrae | Should I fix the bugs in my addon? |
| 22:07.21 | Stanzilla | jnwhiteh: new share button on google reader, u happy now? |
| 22:07.24 | syrae | for the 10 people who use it... |
| 22:07.39 | Maldivia | syrae: do you use it yourself? |
| 22:07.46 | jnwhiteh | Stanzilla: sure |
| 22:07.47 | syrae | Maldivia: infrequently |
| 22:07.52 | jnwhiteh | Stanzilla: but its still not the same =/ |
| 22:07.55 | jnwhiteh | it used to be better before |
| 22:07.56 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 22:08.45 | syrae | There was a behavior change on Blizzard's side that has caused both my addon as well as some of Blizzard's UI to behave unpredictably in certain cases. |
| 22:08.55 | Maldivia | syrae: I have this tendency, that my interest in keeping my addons up to day kind of dwindles down after the first content patch or so after an expansion |
| 22:09.40 | syrae | Maldivia: To be fair, I made a bunch of changes and fixes after 4.2 hit and broke one of my notifications that I depended on and it drove me nuts enough to actually fix it. |
| 22:09.53 | syrae | *4.2 broke my addon |
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| 22:10.25 | syrae | Maybe I'll wait until next week to see how 4.3 breaks things, if at all |
| 22:11.28 | syrae | A guildie and I both use my addon, and he also writes a simple, buggy addon, so we both fix, break, and bitch at each other all the time. |
| 22:12.23 | AcidWeb | syrae: An endless cycle of creation and destruction :-) |
| 22:12.30 | syrae | yeah |
| 22:14.50 | Fisker | i once created the second evolution of humans in the milky-way galaxy |
| 22:17.07 | Caribou| | the docs says frame:SetScript("handler", function) what if i want to pass one argument to a specific function like frame:SetScript("handler", myTestFunction("hello")) ? It's throwing an error refering to SetScript :( |
| 22:18.10 | Maldivia | Caribou|: then wrap the function, like frame:SetScript("OnBlah", function(frame, ...) myTestFunction("hello"); end) |
| 22:18.29 | Caribou| | ah ! thanks |
| 22:18.45 | foxlit | better yet, stop passing variables to handlers. |
| 22:19.06 | amro | l2curry foxlit |
| 22:19.14 | Antze | aye, function is a function but myTestFunction("hello") is actually not a function, it's a function call |
| 22:19.28 | Antze | that is, the result of a function call |
| 22:19.30 | amro | not if it also returns a function! |
| 22:19.34 | foxlit | I'm more questioning the wisdom of needing to pass "hello" to your function at all. |
| 22:19.38 | Caribou| | ah indeed |
| 22:19.45 | foxlit | obviously impossible to tell from your contrived example :) |
| 22:19.46 | amro | good one |
| 22:19.59 | Antze | well... passing "hello" sounds like a closure |
| 22:20.12 | Antze | maybe it's not so hello in the first place |
| 22:20.32 | amro | it's only a closure if it brings in a reference from another scope |
| 22:21.00 | Antze | that's what I meant, if the hello is not a "hello" but a reference to something |
| 22:21.21 | Antze | maybe "hello" was used just as an example :P |
| 22:21.49 | Caribou| | it was :D |
| 22:22.45 | Lunessa | When you guys start talking about psudeo-pointers we'll have reached nerdvana. |
| 22:23.36 | Caribou| | i was wondering the other day... how you, maker of complex addons, are debugging when it's about events that are hard to reach, like ON_ENTER_BATTLEGROUND, i don't event know if that exists but it's hard to recreate situations when you don't have as much control as you would with your own app, private servers ? :3 |
| 22:24.05 | foxlit | You write code. |
| 22:24.08 | foxlit | It proceeds to work. |
| 22:24.11 | foxlit | You don't debug. :) |
| 22:24.15 | Antze | what's so hard about entering battlegrounds? |
| 22:24.16 | Caribou| | woah <3 |
| 22:24.42 | foxlit | Antze: mainly the deserter debuff. |
| 22:24.45 | Caribou| | well that's maybe not the hardest thing to debug but still it has to pop :x |
| 22:25.05 | Lunessa | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/3925572/Battlenet_Mobile_Authenticator_%E2%80%93_Java_Version_Support_Update-11_10_2011#blog |
| 22:25.17 | Antze | you shouldn't have so many bugs in your code that the deserter debuff becomes a problem... |
| 22:25.41 | foxlit | Antze: I like my version better. Why debug at all? |
| 22:26.16 | Antze | Caribou|: PLAYER_ENTERING_BATTLEGROUND |
| 22:26.34 | Caribou| | oh it exists then :) |
| 22:26.58 | Antze | rule 34, revisited |
| 22:27.02 | Lunessa | foxlit just waits for someone like me to complain and provide the fail case. |
| 22:27.04 | Caribou| | haha |
| 22:27.04 | Antze | if it exists, there's WoW API of it |
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| 22:27.29 | foxlit | Lunessa: people are increasingly bad at that :( |
| 22:27.45 | amro | or use wowbench! |
| 22:27.53 | amro | pokes Mikk |
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| 22:28.14 | Antze | wowbench is for sissies |
| 22:28.17 | Lunessa | Hey, I tracked down the custom ring name bug in Opie meticulously. Since then I've had no complaints. :) |
| 22:28.42 | foxlit | There's actually an awesome bug in the current version that it looks like no one was hit by yet |
| 22:28.45 | Antze | if you're testing your own death detection, you should die a lot for real! |
| 22:29.22 | Lunessa | foxlit: to be totally honest, I mostly use it to open my professions, and place world markers. |
| 22:29.33 | foxlit | Best World Marker support ever(tm) |
| 22:29.52 | foxlit | at least until 4.3 comes along and makes it easy. |
| 22:29.52 | Lunessa | I should make rings for other things… like specialty totems again. |
| 22:29.58 | AcidWeb | Caribou|: Y. Even if it is hard to recreate event. Try do that. And even if you spend 1000h testing all possible scenarios users find some other bugs ;p |
| 22:30.15 | Stanzilla | http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/554375_460s.jpg |
| 22:30.28 | Caribou| | :) |
| 22:30.51 | Antze | noone will ever find a bug in my addon(s) |
| 22:30.57 | Antze | ...because noone is using them |
| 22:31.56 | AcidWeb | Caribou|: That was not a joke. When addon is complex - after you made a code that hande all possible scenarios some unpossible scenarios occur :-) |
| 22:33.10 | Caribou| | i didn't take it as such |
| 22:33.17 | Caribou| | but fortunately mine is not complex :O |
| 22:33.19 | foxlit | I like how it contradicts itself thrice. |
| 22:33.45 | amro | Cide: cbreak: have you implemented a QAbstractItemModel? |
| 22:33.55 | cbreak | a few times |
| 22:34.12 | cbreak | usually for a QTreeView |
| 22:34.25 | cbreak | but only once one with actual sub levels |
| 22:35.33 | amro | cbreak: I'm having an issue with removing rows. specifically, it tries to cleanup the child nodes of the removed row after endRemoveRows(), but by then my deletion of their parent has already deleted my representation of them, invalidating the internal pointers in the QModelIndexes |
| 22:36.25 | amro | actually I think I know what to do |
| 22:36.37 | cbreak | hmm. |
| 22:36.43 | cbreak | define "clean up" |
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| 22:37.43 | amro | actually that's not what's happening upon second inspection |
| 22:39.40 | syrae | huh. Patch day is the 29th (probably). Bashiok is not subtle |
| 22:39.51 | syrae | https://twitter.com/#!/Bashiok/status/134735242471813120 |
| 22:41.07 | Lunessa | lulz |
| 22:42.49 | Stanzilla | syrae: 2 weeks after season end normally |
| 22:43.07 | syrae | Stanzilla: actually, not really. |
| 22:44.04 | syrae | 4.2 and the end of Season 9 were both on the same day |
| 22:44.19 | syrae | Ditto the end of season 8 and patch 4.0.1 |
| 22:44.55 | amro | cbreak: http://paste2.org/p/1770601 |
| 22:45.18 | amro | this later crashes in FSModel::parent, called from the view while resizing |
| 22:45.29 | amro | it looks like it's calling parent() with a corrupt QModelIndex |
| 22:47.04 | amro | cbreak: nevermind, I |
| 22:47.09 | amro | I'm an idiot |
| 22:47.14 | amro | I wasn't removing the deleted item from its parent |
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| 22:48.36 | Stanzilla | syrae: you're right, I confused it with the 2 weeks announce before the seasons end |
| 22:49.07 | syrae | yeah |
| 22:49.15 | syrae | easy to confuse :) |
| 22:50.36 | cbreak | well, glad to help :) |
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| 22:54.30 | AcidWeb | Steam was hacked. |
| 22:54.40 | syrae | eh? |
| 22:54.41 | AcidWeb | http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/11/10/steam-hacked/ |
| 22:54.43 | syrae | Source? |
| 22:54.58 | syrae | thanks |
| 22:55.02 | Caribou| | calling Frame:UnregisterAllEvents() will also unregister events bound to that frame from other addons ? |
| 22:55.14 | foxlit | yes |
| 22:55.32 | Caribou| | so if you want to make a clean addon you have to unregister everything *manually* ? |
| 22:57.22 | amro | you registered them, it shouldn't be hard to undo that |
| 22:57.40 | Caribou| | nope it just adds some code lines :3 |
| 22:57.45 | foxlit | "make a clean addon"? |
| 22:58.13 | foxlit | Are you registering events on others' frames? |
| 22:58.14 | Caribou| | well.. i could let the events even when i'm not using the addon |
| 22:58.35 | Caribou| | right now i'm registerying an event for each slot of my bags for example |
| 22:59.02 | amro | are you by chance confusing widget events with game events? |
| 22:59.08 | Caribou| | yes |
| 22:59.14 | Caribou| | :) |
| 22:59.17 | Caribou| | i meant widget events |
| 22:59.26 | amro | UnregisterAllEvents is for events like PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
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| 23:00.15 | Caribou| | so OnClick is not part of this UnregisterAllEvents then... |
| 23:00.21 | amro | no |
| 23:00.29 | amro | I think there's a RemoveScript? UnsetScript? maybe |
| 23:00.53 | foxlit | no and no |
| 23:01.22 | foxlit | you could do SetScript with nil if you wanted to, though |
| 23:01.24 | Caribou| | but it looks like you're not doing that way !? |
| 23:01.27 | amro | but that's a lie! |
| 23:01.39 | amro | that's like me offering you pie, but giving you nothing at all |
| 23:01.45 | Caribou| | :D |
| 23:02.04 | foxlit | or giving you a null pointer and telling you there's pie at the other end. |
| 23:02.35 | amro | yeah, right. unless that pie is made of core dumps |
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| 23:03.29 | amro | good night folks |
| 23:03.35 | Thunder_Child | night amro |
| 23:05.55 | Cairenn | night amro |
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| 23:10.53 | Thunder_Child | do you have any idea of how many cat pictures you missed Cairenn? |
| 23:11.03 | Cairenn | nope |
| 23:11.17 | Thunder_Child | come to think of it, maybe one |
| 23:11.48 | Thunder_Child | maybe |
| 23:11.54 | Cairenn | :) |
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| 23:14.15 | Arrowmaster | the cobra cat one? |
| 23:15.19 | Thunder_Child | *shrug* i save my sanity by not clicking such links |
| 23:19.37 | Torhal | Cairenn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqfXBhsM5ME |
| 23:19.43 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: That's the actual video |
| 23:19.56 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 23:24.17 | Arrowmaster | so i found a job listing that for qualifications it simply has this |
| 23:24.23 | Arrowmaster | "Must have or be able to quickly obtain CompTIA Security + certification. Must not have any disqualifying factors that would prohibit the granting of a U.S. security clearance." |
| 23:24.38 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: ... |
| 23:24.47 | Thunder_Child | sounds like a winner |
| 23:24.56 | Arrowmaster | i applied |
| 23:25.07 | Thunder_Child | to be fair, i have seen similar ones that are legit |
| 23:25.45 | Arrowmaster | had to email my resume to a .mil email address |
| 23:26.55 | Arrowmaster | i think the last 3+ jobs ive applied for have all had security clearance as part of it |
| 23:26.59 | kd3|netbook | winces |
| 23:27.33 | Thunder_Child | i have applied to a few of them, but most seem to want you to already have the clearance. the down side being you cant just go out and get it |
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| 23:33.53 | Arrowmaster | the ones i see dont request that you already have it, although maybe thats why ive not had any luck even getting an interview yet |
| 23:37.47 | Cairenn | http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/10/psa-steam-hacked-user-info-stolen-but-personal-data-safe/ |
| 23:37.48 | Cairenn | http://i.imgur.com/EcEUJ.png |
| 23:38.22 | bluspacecow | i heard it was the forums only and they use separate logins from your normal steam logins |
| 23:39.00 | bluspacecow | also off topic but |
| 23:39.01 | bluspacecow | http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/about/b20/interviews.html#secondInterview |
| 23:39.04 | bluspacecow | is kinda cool |
| 23:40.21 | Thunder_Child | bluspacecow: and shall we take a poll on what % uses the same login info for both? |
| 23:40.30 | bluspacecow | meh |
| 23:40.36 | bluspacecow | i don't even use their forums |
| 23:41.00 | Thunder_Child | bluspacecow: "The hack was originally thought to be limited to the official Steam forums, but further investigation has revealed that the hackers had access to a database containing “user names, hashed and salted passwords, game purchases, email addresses, billing addresses and encrypted credit card information.”" |
| 23:41.59 | bluspacecow | We do not know of any compromised Steam accounts, so we are not planning to force a change of Steam account passwords (which are separate from forum passwords). However, it wouldn’t be a bad idea to change that as well, especially if it is the same as your Steam forum account password. |
| 23:44.36 | Thunder_Child | no knowing doesnt mean it did not happen |
| 23:45.32 | bluspacecow | *shrug* i'll give you that. Good reason not to store your credit card number on there or any online store |
| 23:52.49 | Kalroth | The problem with encryption today, is that it's easy to break with Amazon EC2 or just a few recent GPUs |
| 23:52.56 | Kalroth | Depending on how they implemented it, of course |
| 23:55.27 | Maldivia | Kalroth: if you know the salt, then sure... |
| 23:55.57 | Kalroth | a database containing user names, hashed and salted passwords, game purchases, email addresses, billing addresses and encrypted credit card information." |
| 23:56.12 | Kalroth | im sure they had access to more than just the database |
| 23:56.54 | Arrowmaster | depends on the attack |
| 23:57.09 | Arrowmaster | for some things they only get a db dump |
| 23:57.40 | Arrowmaster | others they get full access and get into the site code and if they get the code that does the encryption they can get a lot more |
| 23:57.40 | Kalroth | well they stored their forum database on the same server as the steam server then |
| 23:57.51 | Kalroth | which i hope they didnt >< |
