| 00:00.47 | amro | it's not like anybody RPs on RP realms |
| 00:00.50 | tekkub | michael? |
| 00:01.04 | Lunessa | It's a quote from "Lost Boys" |
| 00:01.14 | tekkub | riiiiight |
| 00:02.10 | Lunessa | "David: [offering Michael a drink of blood] Come on, be one of us. " http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093437/quotes - I messed it up a little. |
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| 00:03.06 | foxlit | book shipped |
| 00:03.16 | foxlit | Cheers, Amazon, now I won't get anything done during the weekend :( |
| 00:03.40 | tekkub | I have to... go over here now |
| 00:03.50 | Thunder_Child | don't blame amazon for your weakness foxlit |
| 00:04.14 | Thunder_Child | also, weekends are for not getting anything done |
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| 00:04.21 | Lunessa | Anyone in Grounding Totem should be able to shoot you an invite. |
| 00:04.50 | foxlit | http://blip.tv/a/a-5112398 |
| 00:05.08 | foxlit | mildly amusing |
| 00:07.10 | karl_w_w | <amro> it's not like anybody RPs on RP realms <- unless it's moon guard |
| 00:07.53 | Lunessa | Moon Guard is where all the hard core RPers from Kirin Tor went when they were offered a free xfer. |
| 00:08.12 | Lunessa | and yes, I did just make a double entendre. |
| 00:08.34 | tekkub | you never said what faction |
| 00:08.45 | Lunessa | tekkub: We're alliance. |
| 00:08.50 | st0neale | does anyone know what server/channel the wow botters hang out in? |
| 00:08.55 | tekkub | how convieeeeeenient |
| 00:09.17 | tekkub | not this one, go away |
| 00:09.27 | st0neale | yeah i know... i figured |
| 00:09.28 | st0neale | was just wondering |
| 00:10.09 | karl_w_w | they all hang out in #botterzrhawt |
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| 00:10.34 | st0neale | nice |
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| 00:25.10 | Lunessa | home time. |
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| 00:33.16 | airtonix | tekkub: do you still work for github? |
| 00:33.54 | airtonix | work for/ run / colab |
| 00:35.15 | tekkub | yes |
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| 00:45.22 | KarlKFI|work | Cide? |
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| 00:47.20 | mckenziemc | >< |
| 00:47.39 | KarlKFI|work | ChanServ seems to see him, but he's not in my user list |
| 00:47.49 | KarlKFI|work | and he can't talk |
| 00:48.06 | mckenziemc | do you have leaves hidden? |
| 00:48.09 | tekkub | and the problem is? |
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| 00:48.13 | Cide | hi |
| 00:48.16 | tekkub | damn |
| 00:48.20 | KarlKFI|work | there you are |
| 00:48.21 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 00:48.21 | Thunder_Child | he was gone KarlKFI|work |
| 00:48.34 | Cide | had a buggy znc |
| 00:48.41 | Cide | thanks, KarlKFI|work |
| 00:49.01 | KarlKFI|work | yes i have leaves hidden over a certain sized room |
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| 01:11.00 | Cide | hm |
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| 02:18.44 | kd3 | okay, wow: http://i.imgur.com/UucE5.png |
| 02:19.33 | Torhal | kd3: Dude, it's OK. This is how the Internet works. |
| 02:19.35 | Torhal | :D |
| 02:20.05 | kd3 | still, amused as I wind down to sleep so I can get up at 6:30 again... ugh |
| 02:21.44 | mckenziemc | 9 minute nap :P |
| 02:22.15 | kd3 | 0630, not 1830. I'm not that suicidal. will save that for black friday when we open at midnight |
| 02:23.33 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 02:23.36 | Torhal | Urk. |
| 02:23.41 | Torhal | SOOOOOO glad I'm no longer in retail. |
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| 02:27.24 | kd3 | anyway, zzz. |
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| 03:12.13 | karl_w_w | ba ba bel ba babybel? |
| 03:12.59 | pompy | http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/collectibles/ea60/ |
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| 03:19.05 | Stanzilla | Fisker: they fixed tactical lights \o/ |
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| 03:34.39 | bleeter | apparently already sold out :( |
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| 04:01.38 | Nechckn | Hrm... Goblin... what? |
| 04:01.47 | Nechckn | Shaman, perhaps? |
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| 04:46.35 | Shirik | also bleeter, voodoo doughnuts is <3 |
| 04:46.43 | Shirik | someone brings some in to the office every week |
| 04:54.57 | pompy | http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/11/08/battlefield-3-called-out-for-animal-cruelty.aspx .. |
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| 05:10.41 | Shirik | huh |
| 05:10.44 | Shirik | "no" on 26 |
| 05:13.21 | Corrodias | animal cruelty? what? did they strangle bunnies while making the game? i'll skim this article/ |
| 05:13.39 | Corrodias | oh, just more peta bullshit |
| 05:13.43 | Thunder_Child | yep |
| 05:13.50 | Corrodias | caring is over |
| 05:25.55 | pompy | damn ubisoft is only releasing cool editions of assassins creed revelations in europe :( |
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| 05:32.58 | Corrodias | that's because big publishers are incredibly strange when it comes to releases on different continents |
| 05:33.18 | Corrodias | i'd be perfectly happy to see them dissolve and the creative efforts of their clients put towards stuff anyone can play equally |
| 05:33.33 | Corrodias | no big budgets? i can live with that. |
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| 06:05.26 | pompy | http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/b/community_blog/archive/2011/11/08/xbox-com-enhanced-new-social-amp-video-sections.aspx |
| 06:06.52 | Corrodias | "a significant update that will make it even easier to see what your friends are doing on Xbox LIVE." <-- why? |
| 06:07.35 | Thunder_Child | don't you want to know every aspect of your xbox friends lives? |
| 06:07.50 | Corrodias | you're right. there is a hole in my life. |
| 06:07.58 | karl_w_w | microsoft devs are all stalkers at heart |
| 06:08.06 | pompy | lol |
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| 06:25.20 | Thunder_Child | So i am listening to: |
| 06:25.21 | Thunder_Child | Sadeness, Pt. 1 |
| 06:25.21 | Thunder_Child | By: Enigma |
| 06:25.21 | Thunder_Child | which is ok, but then i notices this: |
| 06:25.32 | Thunder_Child | On: Tropic Thunder: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack |
| 06:25.36 | Thunder_Child | notice* |
| 06:25.39 | Thunder_Child | this is not ok |
| 06:28.57 | Fisker | Stanzilla what do you mean ? |
| 06:29.00 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 06:29.18 | Stanzilla | Fisker: what did I say |
| 06:29.27 | Fisker | they fixed tactical lights |
| 06:29.33 | Stanzilla | oh, right |
| 06:29.43 | Stanzilla | they are not fullscreen white madness anymore |
| 06:29.50 | Fisker | Corrodias |
| 06:30.00 | Corrodias | hmm? |
| 06:30.02 | Fisker | you should've seen PETA when they saw sonic the hedgehog |
| 06:30.31 | Stanzilla | Fisker: Before http://t.co/oxEPpGCc - After http://t.co/bOSx4ri |
| 06:30.32 | Fisker | they were foaming at their mouth when they saw that evil Dr. Robotnik was keeping all those animal captive |
| 06:30.33 | Cide | Fisker: SOURCE? |
| 06:30.52 | Fisker | for some reason chrome doesn't like your shitty links |
| 06:30.55 | Corrodias | i cannot imagine whether the crazy people would approve because you release them or disapprove because they're in trouble in the first place |
| 06:30.55 | Fisker | or maybe my internet doesn |
| 06:30.55 | Cide | your second link does not work also |
| 06:30.56 | Fisker | 't |
| 06:31.03 | Corrodias | i don't really care which one it was, though |
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| 06:32.40 | Fisker | pls Stanzilla |
| 06:32.50 | Fisker | i will soon be forced away |
| 06:33.03 | Stanzilla | Fisker: wat |
| 06:33.16 | Stanzilla | oh |
| 06:33.18 | Fisker | your links doesn't work |
| 06:33.27 | Stanzilla | before http://imgur.com/MkPxR |
| 06:33.32 | Stanzilla | and after is broken, sec :D |
| 06:33.45 | Fisker | and stop bullshit "oh i'm cool i can shorten a link almost not at all because it's just imgur *facepalm*" |
| 06:34.20 | Stanzilla | http://imgur.com/Z3E6I |
| 06:34.27 | Stanzilla | I copied those from a tweet |
| 06:34.29 | Stanzilla | so not my fault :D |
| 06:34.42 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/5FJjk.png <-i'm happy |
| 06:35.08 | Corrodias | okay, what the hell am i looking at? |
| 06:35.12 | Fisker | so they changed it? |
| 06:35.15 | Fisker | a flashlight Corrodias |
| 06:35.15 | Corrodias | pictures from a game |
| 06:35.37 | karl_w_w | hey Fisker |
| 06:35.46 | Fisker | hey karl_w_w |
| 06:35.48 | Corrodias | oh. neat. |
| 06:35.53 | Fisker | dick Corrodias |
| 06:36.10 | Stanzilla | Fisker: yes in the next patch or so |
| 06:36.19 | mckenziemc1 | throws Fisker at a rock |
| 06:36.53 | Fisker | that sucks Stanzilla |
| 06:37.52 | Stanzilla | better than never |
| 06:37.52 | Corrodias | a dick patch would be cool |
| 06:38.19 | Corrodias | what's "broken" about the after? it's smaller, right? it looks more realistic |
| 06:38.26 | Fisker | not really Stanzilla |
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| 06:38.39 | Stanzilla | ASUS Eee Pad Transformer Prime < wtb shorter product names |
| 06:38.46 | Fisker | umad? |
| 06:38.46 | Corrodias | unless you've got like a LED flashlight with fucking twenty AA batteries |
| 06:39.03 | Corrodias | call it the AEPTP |
| 06:39.08 | Stanzilla | Corrodias: it's smaller and gets more blinding the nearer you get |
| 06:39.37 | Arrowmaster | i hope they patch it so you dont get blinded by teammates anymore either |
| 06:40.04 | Fisker | Corrodias i have a shit as fuck flashlight |
| 06:40.06 | Corrodias | why would you want that, arrow? that's unrealistic |
| 06:40.17 | Fisker | on it's highest setting even that can blind me in broad daylight |
| 06:40.26 | Arrowmaster | the game is stupid in that it doesnt matter where you are aiming the flashlight or laser sight, the other person will get blinded just by looking at you including teammates |
| 06:40.39 | Fisker | and mine is like 200 lumens or something |
| 06:40.49 | Corrodias | you become some kind of omnidirectional beacon of brightness? |
| 06:41.29 | Fisker | when lit in the face sure |
| 06:42.18 | Corrodias | no, i mean Arrow's line, where it doesn't matter where you're pointing it |
| 06:42.49 | Corrodias | what's the game? modern battlefield? |
| 06:42.56 | Fisker | that's not true Corrodias |
| 06:43.03 | Fisker | atleast not completely, but i guess partially |
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| 07:28.37 | bluspacecow | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/263833_1963876428807_1599752856_31961770_2783268_n.jpg |
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| 07:39.26 | airtonix | hey |
| 07:39.26 | airtonix | heys bluspacecow |
| 07:39.40 | bluspacecow | oh hai |
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| 07:50.32 | airtonix | http://i.imgur.com/UucE5.png |
| 07:51.39 | Corv | I love those kinds of theories. |
| 07:52.08 | airtonix | i read an awesome scifi book about how the arabs actually dominate space travel |
| 07:52.32 | airtonix | like they did with nautical travel during the dark ages |
| 07:57.31 | bluspacecow | http://mthruf.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/job-fails-halloween-isnt-even-cold-to-the-touch-yet-wait-a-few-weeks.jpg?ref=nf |
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| 08:22.04 | Corv | So, is there any circumstance under which UnitStat's first two returns would actually be different? |
| 08:22.36 | Corv | According to all the documentation I can find, they're supposed to be "base" and "current", but they both always seem to be "current". |
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| 08:31.40 | bluspacecow | oh hai2u |
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| 09:44.32 | Maldivia | *yawn* |
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| 10:28.40 | jnwhiteh | Corrodias: they're not 'base' and 'current', they're 'base' and 'effective' |
| 10:28.49 | jnwhiteh | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitStat |
| 10:28.54 | tekkub | jnwhiteh: your RT... I just have to say |
| 10:28.54 | jnwhiteh | err Corv |
| 10:29.00 | tekkub | that's an unplanned feature |
| 10:29.01 | jnwhiteh | not Corrodias... |
| 10:29.06 | tekkub | they're not paying specifically for that |
| 10:29.10 | jnwhiteh | tekkub: =) |
| 10:31.38 | Fisker | jnwhiteh :) |
| 10:34.19 | Fisker | Stanzilla |
| 10:35.00 | bluspacecow | wait |
| 10:35.04 | bluspacecow | jnwhite is a twit |
| 10:35.08 | bluspacecow | i mean twitts ? |
| 10:35.12 | jnwhiteh | .. |
| 10:35.18 | jnwhiteh | why does everyone truncate my name to jnwhite |
| 10:35.23 | jnwhiteh | that's not my name |
| 10:35.37 | bluspacecow | its stacey |
| 10:35.43 | tekkub | because they're lazy fucks |
| 10:35.47 | tekkub | and don't know what tab does |
| 10:35.54 | jnwhiteh | people email me and say 'Mr. White' |
| 10:35.55 | jnwhiteh | FUCK YOU |
| 10:36.02 | bluspacecow | jnwhiteh: O_O |
| 10:36.05 | bluspacecow | mind = blown |
| 10:36.19 | tekkub | I'm going to call you Hwhite |
| 10:36.30 | bluspacecow | can i call you honky ? |
| 10:36.31 | tekkub | I hope you like cool hwhip |
| 10:36.45 | jnwhiteh | the worst is when they go to http://www.cs.ox.ac.uk/people/jim.whitehead/ and then still call me 'Mr. White'. |
| 10:36.47 | Corv | Back - and yeah, you're right. But still, when would base and effective ever be different? |
| 10:36.53 | jnwhiteh | Its a good thing I don't carry a knife around |
| 10:37.05 | tekkub | it's better than Mr Blackhead |
| 10:37.13 | jnwhiteh | Corv: that's (unfortunately) not for us to know, I don't think we've found any instances where its different |
| 10:37.19 | Corv | -.- |
| 10:37.19 | Corrodias | Mr White, in the kitchen, with the knife |
| 10:37.23 | jnwhiteh | its a relic from older days when stats were much more complicated |
| 10:37.53 | jnwhiteh | they were flattened quite a bit with Cataclysm, and before as well |
| 10:38.04 | Corv | Well, I'll set that aside as a dead-end then. |
| 10:38.19 | Fisker | hey jnwhite |
| 10:38.31 | Corv | I don't suppose that there's really any simple way to get a user's unbuffed, but geared, stat values? |
| 10:38.37 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: I killed an accidentally |
| 10:38.41 | Fisker | oh wat |
| 10:38.44 | Corv | I've got a few approaches, but they kinda suck. |
| 10:38.51 | Fisker | i know your phonenumber now |
| 10:38.58 | jnwhiteh | Corv: doesn't UnitStat give that to you? |
| 10:39.05 | jnwhiteh | if you remove the bonuses? |
| 10:39.11 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 10:39.17 | jnwhiteh | I dont know that you can separate gear and buffs |
| 10:39.20 | Corv | Nope. Subtracting bonuses gives you the race/class base. |
| 10:39.31 | jnwhiteh | the game doesn't separate them |
| 10:39.45 | Corv | So I figure I can either factor out all of the auras, or sum up all of the gear. |
| 10:39.51 | Corv | Neither is particularly attractive. |
| 10:40.02 | jnwhiteh | summing gear is trivially easy |
| 10:40.08 | Stanzilla | Fisker |
| 10:41.11 | Corv | I suppose... tooltip scanning would be the route, then, since GetItemStats or whatever it was doesn't incorporate reforge, etc. |
| 10:41.30 | jnwhiteh | ah, if you need to handle reforge, then yes, it becomes more difficult |
| 10:41.34 | jnwhiteh | what is the purpose of this? |
| 10:42.15 | Corv | Given a user-chosen set of auras expected at raid time, and then assuming their current gear/class/race/spec, figure out how far they are from certain stat inflection points. |
| 10:42.24 | Corv | Specifically, the crit soft-cap for Frost Mages. |
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| 10:43.00 | jnwhiteh | ah, that makes it difficult |
| 10:43.03 | Corv | But because I want to calculate this with the buffs they *expect*, not the buffs they *have now*... |
| 10:43.11 | Corv | Yeah. |
| 10:43.38 | Fisker | time for a hacking math book jnwhite ? |
| 10:43.42 | amro | don't buffs give static bonuses at top level now? |
| 10:44.00 | Corv | Whatcha mean? |
| 10:44.22 | amro | I mean you already know beforehand what bonus buff X provides, shouldn't it be easy to factor in? |
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| 10:44.55 | Corv | If the buffs they could have now are a subset of the ones they might have at raid time, sure. |
| 10:45.24 | Corv | But nothing's stopping someone from going out and getting something wonky like Run Tum Tuber Surprise. |
| 10:46.11 | amro | Note: this addon is only accurate if you're not on drugs |
| 10:46.22 | Corv | Heh. |
| 10:46.26 | amro | I see what you're getting it, I don't think it would be worth the effort |
| 10:46.40 | amro | it's not like wow is this super hardcore game where you don't want to right click on a buff |
| 10:46.49 | amro | what you're getting at* |
| 10:47.14 | Corv | More like they might not even consider "oh hey i have this buff that's screwing with it". |
| 10:47.24 | Fisker | i used to raid with runn tum tuber surprise all the time |
| 10:47.26 | amro | you could provide a warning |
| 10:47.28 | Fisker | that is until they fired me :( |
| 10:47.30 | Corv | I am fully willing to assume that users are a bunch of derps. |
| 10:47.46 | amro | Fisker: that's what happens when you sexually harrass the dps counter |
| 10:48.00 | amro | sure, they are |
| 10:48.07 | Corv | I was wondering about that, though - does RTTS stack with ordinary Well Feds? |
| 10:48.12 | amro | now ask yourself if this problem is worth solving for a bunch of lazy derps who can't be botherd to read |
| 10:48.28 | Corv | Considering one of those derps is an IRL friend who requested this addon... =P |
| 10:49.45 | Fisker | it might just be stupid enough to stack |
| 10:49.45 | amro | well, it's up to you, but it doesn't seem worthwhile to me |
| 10:50.02 | Fisker | but i was under the impression that Blizzard fixed most of that shit in Classic/TBC |
| 10:50.04 | amro | at any rate, summing gear stats sounds like something others have probably done by now, maybe you can find the code lying around |
| 10:50.52 | Corv | That's what I was really expecting/hoping to find, but I've yet to find anything particularly useful. LibStatLogic doesn't, though it does have a spec/aura aware function to factor out multipliers. |
| 10:51.35 | amro | the API hasn't kept up with the game all that well |
| 10:51.54 | amro | or rather it has, but only insofar as to satisfy blizzard UI |
| 10:52.44 | Fisker | you can always ask Blizzard though |
| 10:52.52 | Fisker | maybe they'll include it in the next expansion :3 |
| 10:52.59 | Fisker | (The one after MoP) |
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| 10:53.13 | Corv | That might be a tad late for this addon. |
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| 11:16.20 | Corv | Well, one small mystery solved: Runn Tum Tuber does *not* stack with modern foods. |
| 11:17.11 | Corv | On the other hand, it does apply its buff instantly. Wonder why they did away with that convenience. |
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| 11:33.45 | karl_w_w | Corv: wouldn't surprise me if it's something to do with pvp |
| 11:39.26 | Wobin | >< |
| 11:39.29 | Wobin | I just dinged 85 |
| 11:39.33 | Wobin | and I'm already JP capped |
| 11:44.44 | amro | easier than being JP morgan |
| 11:48.52 | clever | Dagmar: you about? |
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| 11:54.35 | airtonix | hey mr white |
| 11:54.42 | airtonix | umad? |
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| 12:06.53 | Wobin | hm, we don't get any benefits from prepurchasing Skyrim, do we? |
| 12:08.54 | Fisker | you might still get that hat in TF2 |
| 12:08.58 | amro | you get http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/11/07 |
| 12:09.20 | Fisker | though i guess that was only during the quakecon sale |
| 12:09.28 | Fisker | so no doesn't seem like it |
| 12:09.54 | amro | tf2 hats are the mints of the gaming world. walk into a store, buy something, pick up a complimentary mint |
| 12:10.14 | amro | except I'd rather have a mint |
| 12:10.18 | Fisker | too bad it was already done to death when the news first got out amro :( |
| 12:10.57 | airtonix | umad? |
| 12:12.34 | Adys | Wobin: you don't even get any benefits from purchasing Skyrim at all |
| 12:13.17 | Wobin | I probably won't buy it straight off |
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| 12:19.46 | WoWUI | Valdarix|work |
| 12:20.09 | Valdarix|work | guess /nick would have been helpful |
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| 12:22.38 | airtonix | no |
| 12:43.24 | starlon | retorts for no ill purpose. |
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| 13:01.10 | Adys | Arrowmaster: ping |
| 13:01.20 | Adys | actually any shell/zsh wonk |
| 13:01.32 | amro | ask purl |
| 13:01.50 | Adys | i want an action to only be performed if the output if "git pull" is not "Already up-to-date" |
| 13:02.21 | amro | I'd use ruby/python and their popen implementations |
| 13:02.27 | amro | shell makes my brain melt |
| 13:02.38 | Adys | zsh is decent usually |
| 13:02.44 | Adys | i mean readable |
| 13:02.49 | amro | doesn't make it writable |
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| 14:16.34 | Corv | I have a feeling I *really* don't want to know the answer... but can you always retrieve the color of a line of text in a tooltip? |
| 14:16.56 | Corv | Font object is always GameTooltipFont, and I can't find a hex string... |
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| 14:18.44 | Torhal|work | Corv: GameTooltipFont:GetTextColor() |
| 14:19.02 | Lopeppeppy | What *does* happen when you give a mouse a cookie? |
| 14:19.19 | Torhal|work | It eats that bitch and then pulls a knife to demand more. |
| 14:19.46 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. Sort of like in Ratatouille? |
| 14:20.15 | Torhal|work | Prehaps. I know not. |
| 14:20.37 | Torhal|work | s/Pre/Per |
| 14:21.10 | Corv | 'fraid not, Torhal. That's always plain white (like I said, the object is always GameTooltipFont) even when I can clearly see that the text is gray/green/whatever. |
| 14:22.04 | Corv | Or, possibly to sidestep the issue: |
| 14:22.19 | Corv | How would one go about checking if a socket bonus is actually active? |
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| 14:49.09 | BlackNet | i need some way to filter the mounts/pets that i have. |
| 14:49.16 | BlackNet | it gets hellacious to find anything in there now |
| 14:54.51 | dardack_work | what do you mean filter? |
| 14:55.52 | Lopeppeppy | sort? search? |
| 14:57.40 | Fisker | hey Lopeppepp |
| 14:58.55 | jnwhiteh | BlackNet: welcome to 5.0 |
| 14:59.08 | jnwhiteh | I'm sure there's an addon that does something like that now, I just don't know what it is =) |
| 15:00.01 | Fisker | hey jnwhite |
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| 15:16.21 | BlackNet | 5.0? |
| 15:16.26 | BlackNet | :( |
| 15:16.59 | BlackNet | considering that shits pure client side and uber easy to change |
| 15:17.10 | jnwhiteh | ... huh? |
| 15:17.24 | jnwhiteh | its already been announced at a 5.0 feature |
| 15:17.39 | jnwhiteh | and it is NOT an easy or clean feature to implement into an existing system |
| 15:17.47 | jnwhiteh | if its so easy, write an addon that does it =) |
| 15:18.10 | alestane | You could mod the companions windows to filter now, I'm sure, but I don't know how many people want to put in the time to early-adopt a feature that's going to be stock. |
| 15:19.02 | BlackNet | know they have that bag search feature in 4.3 i think it was? but sorting itself has always been uber scarse |
| 15:20.24 | BlackNet | jnwhiteh yea it's easy to do. i have done it for other mmo's |
| 15:20.28 | jnwhiteh | Okay.. |
| 15:20.30 | jnwhiteh | I'm not sure what you want |
| 15:20.36 | jnwhiteh | It's already an announced feature for WoW 5.0 |
| 15:20.43 | jnwhiteh | (planned) |
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| 15:24.13 | BlackNet | they going to let me filter stuff at vendor that i dont want to see? like crap with agi on it? etc.? |
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| 15:25.31 | jnwhiteh | dude. |
| 15:25.32 | jnwhiteh | write an addon |
| 15:25.41 | jnwhiteh | they're busy bringing actual content to the game =) |
| 15:26.14 | jnwhiteh | Sorry, I just don't understand where the sense of entitlement comes from, never have. |
| 15:26.36 | BlackNet | ? sense of entitlement? |
| 15:28.05 | jnwhiteh | yes, the sense of entitlement |
| 15:28.50 | bluspacecow | *fondles jnwhiteh* |
| 15:28.57 | bluspacecow | kk sleepy tiems |
| 15:34.24 | Torhal|work | BlackNet: http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/goblinvendorfilter |
| 15:35.02 | Torhal|work | Actually, just noticed it's on WoWI as well: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info17956-GoblinVendorFilter.html |
| 15:37.48 | Adys | Wobin: ping |
| 15:42.33 | starlon | what entitlement? |
| 15:43.31 | starlon | Is this an austerity issue? |
| 15:45.21 | starlon | I say one ring to rule them all, and let the crazies fend for themselves. |
| 15:48.30 | starlon | http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/bulletin/ms11-083 |
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| 16:22.31 | Adys | tekkub, ping |
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| 16:53.16 | Fisker | Stanzilla |
| 16:53.18 | Fisker | heehee |
| 16:55.30 | Stanzilla | fisker |
| 16:55.30 | Stanzilla | heheh |
| 16:56.37 | Fisker | :( |
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| 16:59.07 | Kraps_w | argh, i need someone to troubleshoot the other computers on the network but theres no one relevant here and i cant get work done |
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| 16:59.22 | Lunessa | eh, station or something |
| 17:00.21 | cogwheel | no u |
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| 17:03.32 | Kraps_w | also watching an older coworker struggle to format an email properly made me sweat |
| 17:03.47 | Fisker | i sweat on you Kraps_w |
| 17:03.54 | Kraps_w | but thats besides the point |
| 17:04.07 | Kraps_w | no you dont Fisker |
| 17:04.27 | Fisker | you wish Kraps_w |
| 17:05.01 | Kraps_w | sprays Fisker with bat sweat-blocker |
| 17:05.24 | Fisker | i wish Kraps_w |
| 17:05.53 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/SoL3o |
| 17:11.55 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps_w. I write them extensive how-to docs once, and then make them follow them forever afterward. |
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| 17:16.01 | Lunessa | *sigh* How much support/effort should I put in for helping this dude get his WebOS tablet on our Wi-Fi - especially since EAP-PEAO MSCHAPv2 isn't exactly a feature of the OS? |
| 17:16.14 | Lunessa | EAP-PEAP. |
| 17:16.40 | Shirik | you should tell him to get an ipad |
| 17:16.49 | Lunessa | or a Xoom? |
| 17:16.54 | Kraps_w | man, i might have to punch out after lunch if i can get a fix here |
| 17:17.13 | Kraps_w | cant* |
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| 17:17.29 | Lopeppeppy | Seriously, tell him to figure it out himself or get a friggin' real tablet? |
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| 17:18.36 | Lopeppeppy | We support a few devices, post the docs for them, and tell everyone else they're on their own, good luck if the docs for the other devices help them at all. |
| 17:18.38 | Kraps_w | webOS? who makes that? |
| 17:19.00 | Maldivia | HP |
| 17:20.00 | Maldivia | or well, Palm, but HP own them, or how ever it is |
| 17:21.34 | Kraps_w | hehe Palm |
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| 17:37.01 | Lunessa | WebOS is pretty slick, but it's incomplete. |
| 17:37.11 | Lunessa | At least for the features I need here. |
| 17:44.04 | Maldivia | isn't it Linux based? |
| 17:46.19 | durcyn | it uses a linux kernel. |
| 17:52.22 | Lunessa | Yes, it is a linux kernel. |
| 17:52.26 | Kraps_w | WoW Lost 800k Subscribers, down to 10.3M |
| 17:52.38 | Kraps_w | OHGOD |
| 17:52.53 | Lopeppeppy | Oh noes. |
| 17:53.01 | mckenziemc | drops a piece of sky on Kraps_w's head |
| 17:53.03 | Lopeppeppy | it will pick back up around xmas |
| 17:53.25 | durcyn | 750k of those were bot accounts |
| 17:53.43 | mckenziemc | hehe |
| 17:55.17 | Lunessa | wow FF8 and chrome have really similar looks for tabs now. |
| 17:55.41 | alestane | FF& was already practically a Chrome clone. |
| 17:55.44 | alestane | FF7 |
| 18:03.10 | amro | FF7 is a classic, how dare you alestane! |
| 18:04.18 | alestane | I was amused by the coincidence there, yes. |
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| 18:11.59 | Dewin | hey, Comcast is actually doing something right. They're starting native ipv6 deployment... |
| 18:12.17 | Maldivia | ok, the Duran Duran "Girl Panic!" video is kind of cool :P |
| 18:14.38 | Moolgar | Hey, Can anyone tell me where or what FrameXML file i can find "when" Rated battleground resurrect timer start fire? |
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| 18:18.52 | Maldivia | not even sure what you're referring to, since I've never done a rated BG, so not me :P |
| 18:19.52 | AcidWeb | Moolgar: AFAIK you cant check when ress timer start to tick. |
| 18:19.58 | Thunder_Child | i thought it was random |
| 18:20.01 | AcidWeb | You need check when first ppl die. |
| 18:20.34 | Moolgar | i tryed that acidweb, but it dont return same time . :S |
| 18:21.10 | AcidWeb | Because that time is not constant :-p |
| 18:21.35 | AcidWeb | When i said "You need check when first ppl die." i mean: "Find something better to do" ;p |
| 18:24.05 | AcidWeb | Im not even sure if first kill start the clock. |
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| 18:40.28 | Lunessa | "Arena and Rated Battleground Season 10 is scheduled to end as early as November 15. " |
| 18:40.45 | Caribou| | i can't find any doc on it since it's hard to google but what _G[.... refers to ? |
| 18:41.26 | Lunessa | That's to look at a variable in global memory |
| 18:42.08 | Caribou| | game variables ? can i have a list of them ? |
| 18:42.19 | kd3 | that's what _G provides |
| 18:42.20 | alestane | ~FrameXML |
| 18:42.21 | purl | hmm... framexml is Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 18:43.19 | Caribou| | (allright thanks) |
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| 18:50.40 | Valdarix|work | Dev CoverItLive Q&A now going on |
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| 19:00.49 | kd3 | oop, there goes the nationwide EAS test |
| 19:01.41 | kd3 | and thus concludes the nationwide EAS test |
| 19:02.41 | Dagmar | Yeah I tried to make a joke out of it but they were not as spot on with 1pm as you might expect |
| 19:09.50 | Kraps_w | most awkward workday ever |
| 19:10.37 | Kraps_w | eff this guy |
| 19:13.38 | Lopeppeppy | With a blowtorch. |
| 19:13.55 | Kraps_w | maybe |
| 19:15.16 | Lopeppeppy | Lovely day for barbeque. |
| 19:17.07 | Torhal|work | hands Lopeppeppy a mint julep. |
| 19:23.01 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm. You truly do love me, you're awesome. |
| 19:23.16 | Lunessa | Mmm… BBQ. |
| 19:23.18 | kd3 | rofl |
| 19:23.29 | kd3 | "What class would you like to see nerfed? Mages (60%) Mages (40%)" |
| 19:23.34 | Lopeppeppy | does the happy Fed Ex shipping dance |
| 19:25.48 | alestane | What got shipped? |
| 19:25.55 | Lunessa | does the Lopeppeppy is happy dance. |
| 19:26.54 | Lopeppeppy | The Cabinet of Curiosities! |
| 19:28.10 | Lunessa | Huzzah |
| 19:28.28 | Lopeppeppy | Oh god. Now I have to stencil that on it. And paint it all steampunk. |
| 19:29.02 | alestane | Your storage sideboard watchamig, it had a name before, I don't remember? |
| 19:29.11 | alestane | A craft cupboard of some kind. |
| 19:29.19 | Lopeppeppy | crafting armoire, oooh la la. |
| 19:29.27 | Lopeppeppy | Cabinet of Curiosities is just so much more awesome. |
| 19:29.41 | Kraps_w | you craft? |
| 19:29.48 | Lopeppeppy | Quilt. |
| 19:30.40 | Lunessa | The only things I craft any longer are bon mots. |
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| 19:34.34 | cogwheel | or at least mots |
| 19:35.40 | Lunessa | zing |
| 19:36.32 | Kraps_w | Anything can change, but I'd like to say you could heal as a Monk competitively without ever having to target a friendly player. |
| 19:36.36 | Kraps_w | neat |
| 19:37.42 | Lopeppeppy | Is that like when you score a touchdown on the wrong endzone? |
| 19:38.07 | Kraps_w | Zarhym: |
| 19:38.09 | Kraps_w | If you're asking questions about the female pandaren model... for shame. Class design! |
| 19:38.32 | Kraps_w | Bashiok: |
| 19:38.34 | Kraps_w | But what does they look like!? |
| 19:38.37 | Kraps_w | oh you |
| 19:38.38 | kd3 | lol |
| 19:40.32 | Lunessa | "One of our core design philosophies is "Make it Overpowered". As much as possible, we like to start with abilities being very strong, and then correct problems as they occur. " |
| 19:40.52 | Lopeppeppy | I love it when Zarhym gets harassed, keeps him real. I'm an evil evil once-upon-a-dinosaur. :) |
| 19:41.12 | Lunessa | hells yeah son. I came here to be an epic badass, not a wimp who gets rejected from the baseball team |
| 19:43.23 | Lopeppeppy | Sweetie, I'd never reject you on my baseball team. Can you both pitch and catch? *weg* |
| 19:44.05 | kd3 | *snrk* |
| 19:44.41 | kd3 | anyway, to class. will have to catch the last of the q&a while I'm supposed to be paying attention to the professor |
| 19:46.30 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: naughty girl. Go to my room. :P |
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| 19:48.51 | Lopeppeppy | Yes sir. *prances off* |
| 19:50.13 | Lunessa | waggles his eyebrows salaciously and walks off stage holding a cigar. |
| 19:51.20 | Adys | "I'll argue that Accessibility is actually more important than Security because dialing Accessibility to zero means you have no product at all, whereas dialing Security to zero can still get you a reasonably successful product such as the Playstation Network." |
| 19:51.30 | Adys | man, how come I didn't read this sooner |
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| 19:52.30 | Lunessa | Adys: Didn't I link that weeks ago on G+? |
| 19:52.39 | Adys | yeah i saw it ages ago |
| 19:52.46 | Adys | it was in my "to-check-out" tabs |
| 19:52.54 | Lunessa | Ah. I'm the same way. |
| 19:52.58 | Adys | well, in my "to-check-out" window that holds all those fucking tabs |
| 19:53.35 | Adys | and it won't be too soon that it'll be in my "to-check-out hard drives that holds the session that holds all those fucking tabs" |
| 19:53.55 | Adys | s/es/e/ |
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| 19:54.34 | Lunessa | Heh. I end up with a bookmark folder of "read this later" stuff - I'm the guy here at work who constantly scours the world for input on cools hit and upcoming shit that we need to know about. |
| 19:54.55 | Lunessa | "We're not happy with how Prime glyphs have worked out, and are considering removing them. Don't worry, scribes, if we do this sort of change, we'll keep you heavily in mind; we don't intend to 'nerf' Inscription in any way with this potential change. " |
| 19:55.12 | Adys | I couldve told them that |
| 19:55.20 | Adys | wtf kind of idea was this prime/major glyph split |
| 19:55.31 | Adys | "Lets have a category for weird glyphs that you're not sure are useful" |
| 19:57.15 | Adys | I just don't get how you could be a designer and respectfully put glyphs that you "need to do hard math on to add to your talent tree" |
| 19:57.24 | Adys | thats from a game that went from 2745pt talent trees to 162pt talent trees |
| 19:57.25 | Dagmar | As opposed to the glyphs that we're certain are bloody useless? |
| 19:57.31 | Lopeppeppy | Well, yes. |
| 19:57.42 | Adys | Dagmar: yes. minor glyphs. |
| 19:57.49 | Adys | and glyphs you dont use |
| 20:00.18 | Dagmar | Glyph of Parrot: Turns your non-combat pet into a parrot. (Only works on parrot pets) |
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| 20:00.39 | Lopeppeppy | Glyph of Parrot. Turns your main hand weapon into a parrot. |
| 20:01.11 | Dagmar | Not sure if they'd allow that, since clearly my duel-haddock wielding was already shot down |
| 20:01.42 | Lunessa | Glyph of Parrot: Causes you to repeat the last thing in the /say channel with "..Raaaaawk" or .. pieces of eight" appended to the end. |
| 20:01.47 | Lopeppeppy | Parrots are much less perilous. |
| 20:05.55 | Fisker | kicks kd3 |
| 20:05.56 | Lunessa | holy crap .. this guy with the WebOS based HP TouchPad WILL NOT GET OFF MY CASE. |
| 20:06.19 | Fisker | y wifi no work? |
| 20:06.34 | Lunessa | Because Palm and HP fucked up. |
| 20:07.06 | Lopeppeppy | Take a hammer. "Adjust" the wifi on his device. Smile. |
| 20:07.57 | Dagmar | Suggest that perhaps he should try to buy less obsolete technology next time. |
| 20:08.29 | Fisker | Why so much hating, we're all humans. We should stick together and help each other. Not troll others, and keep disagreeing. |
| 20:08.35 | Fisker | just<snip>off my thread, cause ur<snip>, i bet ur mom is <snip>, kcya |
| 20:08.40 | Fisker | :3 |
| 20:08.46 | Fisker | same person btw |
| 20:08.48 | Fisker | true story |
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| 20:09.18 | Fisker | Bibi has stereotypical french internet |
| 20:09.26 | Fisker | keeps throwing in the white flag LOL |
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| 20:12.23 | Fisker | Stanzilla |
| 20:14.31 | Stanzilla | Fisker |
| 20:15.45 | Fisker | Stanzilla |
| 20:15.46 | Fisker | what? |
| 20:16.19 | Stanzilla | idk |
| 20:16.33 | Fisker | ok |
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| 20:33.16 | jnwhiteh | Lopeppeppy: if you had to decorate a room in 1920/30s style.. what would you do? |
| 20:33.39 | Maldivia | a speakeasy ? |
| 20:33.48 | Lopeppeppy | Ooooh. |
| 20:34.20 | jnwhiteh | Maldivia: yeah but how do you decorate that |
| 20:34.30 | jnwhiteh | also its meant to be UK 1920/30 not US |
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| 20:34.39 | jnwhiteh | but at this point, we're grasping at straws |
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| 20:34.55 | Thunder_Child | jnwhiteh: yes, hidden walls, pannels, etc. with booooooze |
| 20:35.16 | Lopeppeppy | I would do a Google search for "1920's UK", and see what types of movies were out then, some of the posters. |
| 20:35.44 | Maldivia | hmm, post-war era England... |
| 20:36.14 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. |
| 20:36.21 | Lopeppeppy | King George V. |
| 20:36.58 | Maldivia | jnwhiteh: make a Paris 1924 Olympic Games decoration? |
| 20:37.05 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 20:38.07 | Maldivia | or watch downton abbey, the last episodes from season 2 should be around 1920 |
| 20:38.42 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 20:38.42 | jnwhiteh | thanks |
| 20:39.17 | Maldivia | (absolutely brilliant series, imho) |
| 20:41.19 | Lopeppeppy | Poirot is too late, art deco period. |
| 20:41.53 | Lopeppeppy | Why, why, WHY in the name of Satan does it take a department chair 6 frotting months to discover an error in his catalog listing? Don't they review the damn things? |
| 20:42.11 | Maldivia | jnwhiteh: agatha christie theme? |
| 20:42.20 | durcyn | guess who answered her own question |
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| 20:42.41 | Maldivia | ohh, you just mentioned poirot :P |
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| 20:43.03 | Lopeppeppy | I'm livid. They should review it every time they ask me to change something. Not randomly 6 months later and bitch about how it's been wrong. |
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| 20:44.26 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: For ideas, surf antiques websites. Looks for stuff like tiffany class and rollaway desks |
| 20:50.53 | Torhal|work | Lopeppeppy: This is why you need a portable flamethrower. Or, more likely, why it's best that you don't have one. |
| 20:51.33 | Lopeppeppy | OMG. 6 months. I could seriously just walk right over to his office and slap him silly. |
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| 20:52.03 | Kraps_w | do it and record it |
| 20:52.35 | Lunessa | You should get a sign which says "Failure on your part does not constitute sufficient reason to do more work on my part." |
| 20:53.27 | Lopeppeppy | I like the flamethrower better. |
| 20:53.45 | Lunessa | Me too. More visceral and exciting. |
| 20:55.54 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm. Viscera! You speak my language. |
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| 20:58.30 | Lopeppeppy | Hastur Hastur Hastur! |
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| 21:11.47 | Fisker | i think kd3 hates |
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| 21:45.58 | Torhal|work | pours molten pixies on Fisker. |
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| 21:53.50 | cogwheel | ohai |
| 21:56.28 | Fisker | hai |
| 21:56.38 | mckenziemc | no |
| 21:57.00 | Fisker | yes |
| 21:57.09 | Fisker | ř |
| 21:57.28 | Fisker | þ |
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| 22:03.05 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 22:03.07 | Fisker | y u no hey? |
| 22:03.52 | Fisker | people deymad |
| 22:03.59 | Fisker | over pvp changes |
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| 22:18.12 | Corv | Alright, I'm stumped. Here's my code: http://pastebin.com/g4ZF1SzH |
| 22:18.37 | Corv | ScanLines contains local references to each line of the tooltip. Why would GetTextColor always be returning 0,0,0? |
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| 22:33.58 | Caribou_ | how do i get the path & preview of all pre-existing texture of wow ? |
| 22:34.19 | kd3 | extract it from the client |
| 22:34.22 | kd3 | ~framexml |
| 22:34.23 | purl | i guess framexml is Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 22:34.43 | kd3 | you want to use the "exportinterfacefiles art" console command |
| 22:35.20 | Fisker | hey kd3 :( |
| 22:35.26 | kd3 | 'lo? |
| 22:35.28 | Fisker | i did your job |
| 22:35.33 | karl_w_w | not so hey Fisker |
| 22:35.43 | Fisker | hey karl_w_w |
| 22:36.33 | Caribou_ | thanks |
| 22:36.47 | pompy1 | kd3: did they fix that command? |
| 22:37.08 | kd3 | oh, crap. new build |
| 22:37.11 | karl_w_w | Fisker install my addon and tell me if it works with atiesh |
| 22:37.13 | kd3 | I'll let you know in a sec |
| 22:37.27 | Fisker | well not that much work kd3 |
| 22:37.39 | Fisker | just they wanted you to upload an icon :O |
| 22:37.50 | Fisker | it does karl_w_w |
| 22:38.04 | karl_w_w | cool |
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| 22:42.29 | Thunder_Child | Bibi's connection has been all sorts of fail today |
| 22:42.47 | Fisker | it's french |
| 22:43.06 | Dagmar | It's the snails in the DSL lines. |
| 22:43.14 | Thunder_Child | Yes, well i am not a countryist like you |
| 22:43.22 | kd3 | looks like it's been fixed, pompy. not getting any changes from the built-in extract compared to the third-party tools |
| 22:43.24 | kd3 | email out in a sec |
| 22:46.53 | pompy1 | hm tools update today on live launcher |
| 22:47.35 | Sintacks | does anyone else love the idea of curse client, but hate the client itself? |
| 22:48.21 | Fisker | baw pompy1 |
| 22:48.24 | Fisker | haven't gotten them |
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| 22:51.20 | Ketho | kd3: great that its fixed and thanks ahead |
| 22:51.44 | kd3 | email out |
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| 22:52.48 | Torhal | http://i.imgur.com/WiOMq.jpg |
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