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| 00:40.11 | airtonix | Gnarfoz: qqmoar |
| 00:46.51 | bluspacecow | D3 beta real ID friends got wiped. Those in the D3 beta who want to friend up with me pls PM me (/query bluspacecow) |
| 00:57.39 | Shirik | hii bluspacecow |
| 00:57.48 | bluspacecow | hai |
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| 01:22.41 | pompy | Shirik: http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/11/server-outage-apples-siri-apologizing-to-iphone-4s-owner.ars |
| 01:23.18 | Shirik | meh |
| 01:23.19 | Shirik | nothing new |
| 01:23.26 | Shirik | it goes down kinda frequently |
| 01:24.17 | Shirik | :( |
| 01:24.30 | Shirik | "Training Effect. Test heart rates are higher than average. You may have exercised intensively in the previous days. Rest or light train for 1-2 days, or continue intensive training for 1-2 days and then recover well." |
| 01:24.37 | Shirik | that's a polite way of saying "lol you're in pain" |
| 01:24.58 | tekkub | it's super effective |
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| 01:29.30 | pompy1 | Arrowmaster: accepted, lol. |
| 01:29.50 | Arrowmaster | yeah i already know |
| 01:32.43 | pompy1 | k |
| 01:36.39 | Shirik | haha |
| 01:36.41 | Shirik | "When Kristen Christian learned that Bank of America Corp. planned to charge her a $5 monthly debit card fee, she did what many people do these days when they get mad: She ranted on Facebook." |
| 01:36.51 | Shirik | http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-bank-transfer-20111105,0,7676873.story |
| 01:37.24 | tekkub | sounds like an onion story, except it doesn't sound untrue |
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| 01:37.33 | airtonix | Shirik: umad? |
| 01:51.18 | karl_w_w | lua> 8/.45 |
| 01:51.18 | lua_bot | karl_w_w: 17.777777777778 |
| 01:52.47 | airtonix | Shirik: i learned how to make macfags accept anything, i just print out the apple logo on envelope stickers and then tag the object with it and tell them it's a apple factory developers replacement part... then they stop thinking something might go wrong because the network cable is blue instead of white |
| 01:55.16 | bluspacecow | but im not a mac fag |
| 01:55.19 | bluspacecow | im a airtonix fag |
| 01:55.29 | bluspacecow | anything you send me i go crazy about :) |
| 01:55.38 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 01:56.03 | starlon | <&/&> |
| 01:58.09 | starlon | hizzle shizzle bits |
| 02:04.49 | bluspacecow | BBL work tiems |
| 02:06.25 | starlon | tips the cow. |
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| 02:12.02 | starlon | assaults mckenziemc with a trout. |
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| 02:12.23 | mckenziemc | dies |
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| 02:26.11 | foxlit | http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00474HQAM/ |
| 02:26.13 | foxlit | how odd |
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| 02:35.25 | pompy | Arrowmaster: "Arrowmaster won the Socialite achievement in Gears of War 3 for 1471 points" .. jeez |
| 02:36.24 | Arrowmaster | yeah its glitched so now a lot of people are finally getting it |
| 02:37.35 | pompy | ah |
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| 03:00.44 | Ycarene | So, they're considering undoing the rampant Mudflation? |
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| 03:11.53 | airtonix | hey Shirik |
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| 03:28.26 | Silversage | What's the #irc channel for auctioneer? |
| 03:32.51 | Iriel | Silversage: Wherever you can find an auctioneer dev that'll listen |
| 03:33.15 | Silversage | I'm trying #norganna. |
| 03:33.33 | Silversage | Hairy auctioneer bug. Possibly known. If not, I'll file a bug report. |
| 03:35.27 | Silversage | auctioneer devs: I Have a pile of Alicite Pendants of <Random>. Many of them. I find the Appraiser is showing one of them, but actually putting a different one up for auction. Is this a known bug? |
| 03:36.25 | Iriel | That sounds buggy |
| 03:36.26 | mckenziemc | afaik auctioneer doesn't handle random enchantments |
| 03:36.31 | Iriel | isn't their bug queue available? |
| 03:36.47 | mckenziemc | to it they're all the same kind of item |
| 03:38.12 | Silversage | It certainly keeps track of different values for the same item with difference enhancements. |
| 03:38.44 | mckenziemc | what kind of values |
| 03:39.14 | Silversage | I find searching humans about bugs far more effective that searching bug databases. If you're not one of the devs, it's almost impossible to guess the right words to search for. |
| 03:39.56 | Silversage | In the tooltip it shows different "market values" for Alicite Pendant of the Earthshaker, vs Alicite Pendant of the Feverflare. |
| 03:42.41 | Silversage | In an effort to put 20 or so of these up for auction, they seem to have essentially been assigned random prices from among the various prices assigned to the different Alicite Pednands. |
| 03:42.58 | kd3 | winces |
| 03:43.00 | kd3 | http://i.imgur.com/MXVoJ.jpg |
| 03:43.59 | Silversage | kd3: You're snickering at the 4th column over, 2nd row down, right? |
| 03:44.26 | Silversage | Meh. 3rd row down. |
| 03:44.35 | kd3 | no, I'm just wincing at the thought of it |
| 03:44.48 | kd3 | has *zero* icons on his desktop on any computer he owns |
| 03:45.55 | Silversage | To counterbalance, (4,3), he does also have (9,9). |
| 03:46.04 | Arrowmaster | there are icons on my desktop but i never see the desktop |
| 03:46.23 | Arrowmaster | before i switched to linux i didnt have any icons on my desktop on windows |
| 03:46.38 | Silversage | Why do you need a desktop, then? Why not just a glass tty? |
| 03:46.55 | Arrowmaster | i dont need a desktop |
| 03:47.23 | mckenziemc | my desktop hasn't ever gotten that bad but it's gotten close :( |
| 03:47.28 | mckenziemc | i used to keep it really clean |
| 03:48.56 | Arrowmaster | my moms desktop is almost that bad, theres maybe one column free |
| 03:52.12 | mckenziemc | at least their real desktop isn't cluttered |
| 03:52.51 | Arrowmaster | bah this screener for 11-11-11 is encoded terribly |
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| 04:08.22 | airtonix | bluspacecow: strueth! |
| 04:08.25 | airtonix | http://www.minecraftforum.net/videos/view-18744-pig-grinder/ |
| 04:08.31 | airtonix | lol |
| 04:10.49 | Arrowmaster | why??? |
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| 04:19.43 | bluspacecow | 4 the bacon! |
| 04:19.47 | sintAcks | I like bacon |
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| 04:50.12 | Nechckn | Folks - anyone know about http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2416155678 ? |
| 04:50.44 | Nechckn | If it is fixed or whatever - having issues tracking info down due to a hadicapped connection this evening and just rotten luck! |
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| 04:53.56 | Iriel | Nechckn: Silversage was asking about almost exactly the same thing, in the context of auctioneer |
| 04:54.02 | Iriel | perhaps it's an AH bug not an auc bug |
| 04:54.28 | Silversage | Iriel: Running some tests. Looks like that's the case. |
| 04:55.17 | Iriel | Silversage: in case you missed Nechckn's message,it was a link to 2416155678 |
| 04:55.19 | Iriel | ack |
| 04:55.23 | Iriel | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2416155678 |
| 04:55.25 | bluspacecow | in game AH or remote AH ? |
| 04:55.34 | Silversage | Put Jasper Ring of the Beast into default UI auction slot. Have 3 of them. Press "Maximum". It sets # to sell to be 27. o.O |
| 04:55.42 | Silversage | In-game. |
| 04:56.25 | Silversage | That's exactly what I was about to test. |
| 04:56.32 | bluspacecow | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2057496/Kensington-Palace-restoration-uncovers-century-old-obscene-graffiti.html |
| 04:56.33 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 04:57.01 | Silversage | Iriel: I have a conjecture that you might be able to post one-at-a-time. |
| 04:57.19 | Silversage | s/conjecture/hypothesis/ |
| 04:57.54 | Iriel | the linked thread says the only way to do it is to put all-but-one-type into your bank |
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| 04:58.09 | Silversage | Correct. That's what it says. |
| 04:59.10 | Silversage | I actually didn't notice a problem with the rare version, only the uncommon one. |
| 04:59.34 | Iriel | Was that your hypothesis, or do you think there's a less restrictive case? |
| 05:00.11 | Shadowed | wat wtf |
| 05:00.14 | Shadowed | nevcairiel how did you commit to SUF |
| 05:00.18 | Shadowed | you don't have repo access and it's not open |
| 05:00.43 | Silversage | My hypothesis is this: Because I never saw it screw up when I only had one of a particular enhancement in my bag, *maybe* the code is following two different code paths for "post 1" vs "post N", and the "post N" path has the bug. |
| 05:01.15 | starlon | I bet it's a spider. |
| 05:02.13 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: site admins arent restricted by commit permissions |
| 05:02.20 | Shadowed | ah that would do it |
| 05:02.39 | Iriel | That doesn't seem like a good idea |
| 05:03.05 | Shadowed | It does seem a bit odd |
| 05:03.10 | Shadowed | I don't really care since nev had access before |
| 05:06.35 | Ackis | we need access to fix broken stuff, and there are very few of us who have access |
| 05:07.03 | Shadowed | You need access to fix broken stuff in other peoples addons who explicitly closed the repo permissions? :P |
| 05:07.10 | Ackis | there's a blizzard here in salt lake :( |
| 05:07.29 | bluspacecow | hai2u shadowed |
| 05:07.34 | Shadowed | hey bluspacecow |
| 05:08.01 | Ackis | Shadowed: say there was a change to the .pkgmeta structure or something like that and you weren't around :P |
| 05:08.19 | Shadowed | That wouldn't matter unless I pushed |
| 05:08.44 | Shadowed | and if I pushed and broke something cause of pkgmeta changes, it's either my fault for not paying attention or your guys fault for not telling people |
| 05:09.00 | Shadowed | and if you decided to rebuild all existing pushes with a new pkgmeta structure without notifying people and letting them do it, you're just idiots :P |
| 05:09.02 | Nechckn | Iriel yeah, that was why I was asking - did not see that they had asked here, first - connection is crap tonight and was having no luck finding anything constructive. |
| 05:10.19 | Silversage | Iriel: No proof, but tests are consistent with my theor. |
| 05:10.39 | Arrowmaster | this 11-11-11 movie is good |
| 05:10.53 | Silversage | Nechckn: If you care to implement it, it means that there is a workaround available to auctioneer. |
| 05:12.07 | Silversage | Iriel: Posting a single item seems to pick the correct item. Posting multiple items disregards the specific enhancement. |
| 05:14.08 | Nechckn | That was what Kandoko thought - that it was some whackiness with the Blizz multi-post... will have to give it some thought, honestly no one has even asked since January. |
| 05:14.50 | Silversage | Nechckn: You could also temporarily disable multipost when the item has a random enhancement, and there are other items in the bag with the same item # but different enhancements. |
| 05:16.53 | Nechckn | If it were all items, that would be the way to go, but it is, apparently just those JC items. Will give it some thought in the AM. Y'all have a good one! |
| 05:17.21 | Silversage | Nechckn: I'm not convinced. |
| 05:18.09 | Silversage | Not unless those JC items put their enhancements in a non-standard place. It could be showing up on the JC items because of the likelihood that they will be produced, sold, and provoke the bug. |
| 05:18.11 | mckenziemc1 | is it possible that it's all items that can have variations, but JC is just what you know about because it's much less likely for someone to have multiple variations of random-drop stuff? |
| 05:19.22 | Silversage | Yes. What mckenziemcl said. |
| 05:31.28 | Silversage | Nechckn: Users also have a workaround: They (like me) can set their stack count down to 1, and like is good again. |
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| 05:34.33 | Arrowmaster | ok 11-11-11, one of the best movies ive seen all year |
| 05:36.58 | amro | http://majewsky.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/lost-for-words/ |
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| 05:51.01 | mckenziemc1 | for k,v in pairs({}) print(k,v) end |
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| 06:58.15 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 06:58.17 | Fisker | i'm so sick |
| 06:58.23 | Fisker | hey Shadowed btw |
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| 07:03.27 | mckenziemc1 | hmm |
| 07:03.51 | mckenziemc1 | my computer doesn't like the newest nvidia drivers :( |
| 07:06.42 | mckenziemc1 | wait what... control panel says i have 285.62, geforce.com says latest is 285.58 O.o |
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| 07:09.53 | Fisker | no mckenziemc1 |
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| 07:18.55 | mckenziemc | computer froze :( I did a rollback, gonna see if it was the driver or if my equipment is failing |
| 07:20.30 | bluspacecow | interesting |
| 07:20.34 | bluspacecow | are you on a laptop ? |
| 07:21.35 | mckenziemc | no |
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| 07:23.24 | nevcairiel | Shadowed: i kind of assumed i still had access, but then yeah, i don't need to be granted access =p |
| 07:23.31 | Shadowed | oh |
| 07:23.31 | Shadowed | welp |
| 07:25.43 | airtonix | Fisker |
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| 08:41.42 | AcidWeb | Sigh. I just bought prepaid only because i want to release new version of my addon. |
| 08:41.46 | AcidWeb | I need help ;p |
| 08:44.42 | Corrodias | give me your money. i will buy you food and pay your utility bills, but no WoW money. |
| 08:45.05 | AcidWeb | hrhr |
| 08:48.04 | AcidWeb | Always i might start using something less addictive. Maybe heroine ;d |
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| 09:31.10 | bluspacecow | laughing_trollface.jpg |
| 09:31.18 | bluspacecow | some lady at work going on about dogs in pipes |
| 09:33.04 | bluspacecow | i gets to go home nows |
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| 10:55.56 | Caribou| | hello :) |
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| 11:04.33 | Caribou| | I'd like to make an addon to prevent the selling of some specified items, i can't find one googling, but i wanted to ask you if you knew one before starting my own. |
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| 12:19.09 | Fisker | hey airtonix |
| 12:26.10 | airtonix | hey Fisker |
| 12:26.15 | Fisker | no airtonix |
| 12:26.19 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 12:27.06 | airtonix | hey Fisker |
| 12:27.11 | Fisker | denie |
| 12:27.12 | Fisker | denied |
| 12:27.17 | airtonix | oh |
| 12:27.30 | airtonix | but i was |
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| 12:28.03 | Caribou| | (are there some good tutorials for wow addon dev ?) |
| 12:29.06 | Antze | http://www.wowpedia.org/Getting_started_with_writing_addons http://www.wowpedia.org/AddOn_programming_tutorial/Introduction |
| 12:29.34 | Caribou| | allright that what i was reading, thanks |
| 12:31.06 | Antze | you're welcome. with these links and a couple of others that are nearby, the only things I needed were API references and LUA docs |
| 12:31.32 | Caribou| | great |
| 12:33.06 | Antze | you may also find wowprogramming.com interesting |
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| 13:08.03 | jnwhiteh | Antze: lua not LUA =) |
| 13:08.04 | jnwhiteh | but yes |
| 13:08.53 | Antze | Lua then, no? |
| 13:09.45 | Antze | I mean, Lua, not lua :) |
| 13:10.05 | Antze | I was just emphasizing! |
| 13:11.00 | Caleb| | aww snap |
| 13:11.04 | Ketho | how do you emphasize Lua? |
| 13:11.13 | Antze | by typing it in caps |
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| 13:19.06 | Caribou| | what's the event for *selling* to a npc ? |
| 13:19.17 | Caribou| | (in the api) |
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| 13:32.19 | Fisker | LUA's Used as an Acronym jnwhiteh |
| 13:32.21 | Fisker | and you know it |
| 13:35.15 | Jamash | Lua's name is inspired by the practice of mooning people |
| 13:37.28 | Jamash | I like how the About Lua page at lua.org mentions that it's super fast in "several benchmarks" without linking to any of them |
| 13:38.21 | Fisker | nice |
| 13:38.59 | Jamash | in other news, I have been named "World's Sexiest Troll" by several magazines |
| 13:39.09 | Fisker | oh ok |
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| 13:52.15 | Caribou| | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/MERCHANT_UPDATE << is that supposed to return a boolean ? |
| 13:53.03 | Caribou| | well i guess it just fires the event attached to it, if one, without argument... |
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| 13:54.06 | Caribou| | subsidiary question : if i'm selling something to a vendor is that supposed to trigger a MERCHANT_UPDATE event ? |
| 13:54.40 | Caribou| | (since it updates its rebuy tab) |
| 13:55.44 | Caribou| | i could actually try that myself :D |
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| 13:58.57 | airtonix | yeah dawwwg : http://i.imgur.com/Kpx68.jpg |
| 14:00.12 | airtonix | Fisker: ^ like a brotha |
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| 14:09.23 | Jamash | why does my rogue's spellbook say I need to train Mutilate and Mutilate Off-Hand |
| 14:09.34 | bluspacecow | i dunno |
| 14:09.39 | nevcairiel | mutilates Jamash's off-hand |
| 14:09.43 | bluspacecow | does that to my lowbie rouge as well |
| 14:09.49 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 14:09.51 | Fisker | however not hey nevcairiel |
| 14:09.56 | Jamash | especially since he's combat/sub |
| 14:11.02 | Jamash | hey is for herses, Fisker |
| 14:11.39 | Fisker | k? |
| 14:15.53 | Jamash | izzere a good addon that shows what gems can be prospected from ore on mouseover |
| 14:16.38 | Caribou| | (that worked as expected) |
| 14:22.29 | foxlit | grr, BC quest itemization |
| 14:22.33 | foxlit | where are all the slow one-handers? |
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| 14:41.46 | Caribou| | guys, i just noticed that i'm being premium on curse for one year, any idea why ? (since i never subscribed to anything ?) |
| 14:56.03 | Fisker | you subscribed to something but don't remember |
| 14:59.56 | haste | I've been having the same issue Caribou| |
| 15:00.01 | haste | I don't have any add-ons there or anything |
| 15:00.26 | Caribou| | i actually googled it and found a thread |
| 15:01.08 | Caribou| | which explains that if you're an author of an addon and if you get x number of downloads you're having free curse premium |
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| 15:18.18 | Fisker | :O |
| 15:18.20 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 15:18.28 | Fisker | i don't feel so well |
| 15:19.20 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info20481-MegaDamage.html |
| 15:19.22 | foxlit | prefix fail. |
| 15:20.25 | Fisker | how so foxlit ? |
| 15:20.33 | Fisker | also stupid addon is stupid |
| 15:21.04 | foxlit | claims Mega; divides by 1000. |
| 15:22.14 | Fisker | yeah but it would be even more stupid otherwise |
| 15:22.25 | Fisker | you hit for 0,032 Mega Damage? |
| 15:22.30 | Fisker | not terribly exciting :( |
| 15:22.31 | foxlit | Yes, dammit. |
| 15:22.36 | Maldivia | foxlit: I will assume it's an American who made it then :) |
| 15:22.41 | foxlit | We're not exactly at that point yet. |
| 15:23.25 | Fisker | i don't really see the point |
| 15:23.30 | Fisker | other than making numbers more readable |
| 15:23.49 | Fisker | and saving them a bit on storage/computation too i guess |
| 15:23.59 | Fisker | but that would only work on the item squish method |
| 15:24.19 | Fisker | i say |
| 15:24.24 | Fisker | Fix it for titan |
| 15:24.32 | Fisker | don't care for WoW :E |
| 15:25.05 | Fisker | or maybe they should do something like percentage based damage |
| 15:25.10 | foxlit | The thing people probably don't realize is that squishing expansion item level increases will kill non-max-level raid progression |
| 15:25.15 | Fisker | not as in percentage based but the number transmitted is a percentage |
| 15:25.16 | Fisker | idk |
| 15:25.54 | Fisker | well they would do the same for mobs as well |
| 15:26.14 | foxlit | exactly the point |
| 15:26.38 | Fisker | then how would it kill non-max-level raid progression? :O |
| 15:27.08 | foxlit | The difference between Gruul and Kil'Jaeden will all but disappear. |
| 15:27.35 | Fisker | ah, that might be true :o |
| 15:31.38 | Fisker | guess they could make it all a ratings game :( |
| 15:32.13 | foxlit | ratings suck as a design, though |
| 15:32.29 | Fisker | hence the frownie face :( |
| 15:32.40 | foxlit | Having your gear get worse as you gain levels is weird. |
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| 15:34.16 | Fisker | Shirik is one who exceedly floods |
| 15:34.39 | bluspacecow | with his sexy boday |
| 15:35.03 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 15:35.16 | bluspacecow | *munchs* *munchs* |
| 15:35.26 | Fisker | i think i'll go ahead and be sick |
| 15:35.31 | Shirik | pets bluspacecow |
| 15:35.43 | bluspacecow | *mew* |
| 15:35.50 | Shirik | yesterday I was not allowed to work out :( |
| 15:36.04 | bluspacecow | well you gave me hay |
| 15:36.06 | bluspacecow | i eats it ! |
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| 15:38.39 | Torhal | Shirik: Why is Minion dead? http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=246834#post246834 |
| 15:38.41 | Torhal | ducks. |
| 15:38.57 | Torhal | hides behind bluspacecow. |
| 15:39.06 | Shirik | is this where I'm supposed to hit you? |
| 15:39.15 | Torhal | I didn't say it! |
| 15:39.21 | Torhal | I'm merely spreading the misinformation! |
| 15:39.23 | Torhal | :D |
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| 15:39.37 | haste | think that's why he wants to hit you |
| 15:39.45 | Torhal | Oh. Makes sense. |
| 15:40.22 | bluspacecow | you just have that sort of face |
| 15:41.38 | foxlit | It's been a beta for what, two years? :) |
| 15:42.41 | Elkano | isn't that how it is these days? beta until out of service? |
| 15:45.16 | Caribou| | what does shift+click actually returns, id' like to grab the object id from "/myaddon <shift+click>" |
| 15:48.54 | Iriel | Caribou|: it's an item link string, wowpedia should have the format |
| 15:49.14 | Caribou| | allright thanks |
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| 15:51.11 | Caribou| | (also i read that looping bags with GetContainerNumSlots from -1 to 11 include equipped items, but it's actually not working in that case.. any idea why it's not working ?) |
| 15:54.07 | Caribou| | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api_types#containerID mhhh it actually doesn't mention equipped items :( |
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| 16:06.20 | Caribou| | GetInventorySlotInfo should do it :) |
| 16:25.41 | Shirik | Price of a 2TB external USB-attached drive in Maplin: 84.99. Price of a 2TB internal drive: 149.99. |
| 16:25.52 | Shirik | solution: Buy external drive, throw away the enclosure |
| 16:26.35 | Arrowmaster | doesnt always work |
| 16:27.18 | Arrowmaster | some of them now dont even have sata ports, its a pure usb interface attached to the drives circuits |
| 16:27.55 | Arrowmaster | others have hardware encryption that only works with the usb control board |
| 16:47.37 | Mr_Rabies | most major computer manufacturers are gonna basically run out of HDDs in a week or two |
| 16:47.41 | Mr_Rabies | it's gettin' baaaaaaad |
| 16:48.41 | foxlit | Solution: purge porn collection. |
| 16:56.02 | amro | it's gonna hit harder than a herman cain |
| 16:56.12 | amro | sorry, hurricane. I confuse the two because they have equally disastrous results |
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| 17:33.52 | Arrowmaster | grabs his hat and heads off to do family requested IT support..... |
| 17:34.51 | zenzelezz | don't do it |
| 17:34.55 | zenzelezz | run to the hills |
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| 17:41.57 | foxlit | it'd be interesting if you could specify HTML tables by column rather than by row |
| 17:42.10 | foxlit | or perhaps simply in addition to. |
| 17:47.48 | Maldivia | foxlit: float some divs then? |
| 17:51.32 | Maldivia | hmm... Andy Rooney died |
| 17:51.58 | foxlit | Maldivia: that suggestion is only good as a joke |
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| 17:58.13 | Shirik | man |
| 17:58.24 | Shirik | it's so strange seeing commercials for products from crayola that I was working on 3 years ago |
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| 18:21.11 | Fisker | i'm very sick Shirik |
| 18:21.21 | Fisker | what were you working on Shirik ? |
| 18:21.26 | Fisker | Teleportation? |
| 18:21.34 | Fisker | Cell replication? |
| 18:21.39 | Fisker | Telekinesis? |
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| 18:36.44 | amro | Fisker: he was working on the commercials. |
| 18:38.53 | Fisker | oh ok amro |
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| 18:43.58 | Caribou| | i'm trying to grab an itemstring from the message returned by SlashCmdList but i'm actually playing with the [text] version, what am i doing wrong ? |
| 18:45.02 | Caribou| | http://paste2.org/p/1760568 |
| 18:47.28 | Shirik | WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT |
| 18:47.34 | Shirik | My favorite element, unununium |
| 18:47.40 | Shirik | has been renamed to something I can't even spell |
| 18:47.48 | Shirik | Roentgenium |
| 18:47.49 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 18:47.51 | Fisker | waht is that? |
| 18:47.52 | haste | :D |
| 18:47.58 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 18:48.01 | Fisker | i don't feel well |
| 18:48.02 | Fisker | you? |
| 18:48.12 | haste | I feel awesome |
| 18:48.25 | haste | also ordered a DAC now! |
| 18:48.33 | haste | which currently has a four week backorder :P |
| 18:48.42 | Fisker | baw |
| 18:49.17 | Shirik | why haste? |
| 18:49.49 | haste | because I'm curious Shirik |
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| 18:50.41 | haste | and if I find it not worth the money, then I only loose 5% of the cost + shipping |
| 18:50.59 | Shirik | I don't understand what your purpose is |
| 18:51.23 | Fisker | haha nevcairiel |
| 18:51.23 | Shirik | I mean I'm curious about quantum mechanics but I'm not buying a particle accelerator |
| 18:51.25 | Fisker | you germans are funny |
| 18:51.35 | haste | a particle accelerator tends to cost a lot |
| 18:51.38 | haste | so I can understand that |
| 18:51.42 | Iriel | Shirik: would you if you could afford one? |
| 18:51.57 | Shirik | if I bought one it would only be to say I have one |
| 18:52.19 | Shirik | so the answer is probably yes |
| 18:52.26 | Shirik | but not because I was curious! |
| 18:52.37 | haste | :P |
| 18:52.58 | haste | if I feel it improves the sound and that it was worth the price, then I'll keep it |
| 18:53.01 | haste | if not I'll just send it back |
| 18:53.16 | Shirik | if you want to improve the sound |
| 18:53.22 | Shirik | you need an APC40 and an MPK25 |
| 18:53.33 | Shirik | then you'll be rockin |
| 18:54.08 | haste | then I'd only improve the sound I make myself |
| 18:54.29 | Shirik | and you remix crap |
| 18:54.31 | Shirik | and it sounds good |
| 18:54.39 | Shirik | for example, there are many people that remixed friday into good songs |
| 18:54.43 | Shirik | ok, not good, but decent |
| 18:54.54 | haste | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxPbgnO81sQ required |
| 18:56.25 | Shirik | ok that is awesome |
| 18:57.34 | Shirik | wtf |
| 18:57.35 | Shirik | haste |
| 18:57.44 | Fisker | my leg haste |
| 18:57.45 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTx3G6h2xyA&feature=related |
| 18:57.49 | Shirik | That is effectively an APC40 |
| 18:58.10 | Shirik | he's gotta be using ableton too |
| 18:58.19 | haste | most likely |
| 18:58.22 | haste | think he lists stuff on soundcloud |
| 18:58.32 | haste | a lot of people use those |
| 18:58.40 | haste | Made with FL Studio & Ableton Live, played on a Novation Launchpad & Novation Zero SL MKII. |
| 18:58.45 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 18:58.49 | Fisker | i'm dying over here |
| 18:58.50 | haste | hey Fisker |
| 18:58.52 | Shirik | I love ableton |
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| 19:00.15 | haste | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYrcXX4nWOA stuff like this is why I love abelton :P |
| 19:01.25 | Fisker | y u hurt me haste ? |
| 19:01.44 | Shirik | ha |
| 19:01.58 | Shirik | yeah ableton is awesome |
| 19:03.07 | Shirik | hrm, how did she get it to stop though |
| 19:03.17 | Shirik | I thought she was just overdubbing |
| 19:03.44 | haste | you can see how she works with abelton during the video |
| 19:04.08 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 19:04.11 | Fisker | then you hate me haste |
| 19:04.12 | Fisker | :( |
| 19:04.26 | haste | its only the weak parts of you that are dying Fisker |
| 19:04.27 | haste | suck it up |
| 19:04.34 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 19:05.51 | haste | right now.. I wish my internet didn't suck |
| 19:06.08 | haste | waits for the amon tobin and the music of 'infamous' video to buffer. |
| 19:27.20 | Shirik | so I'm finally taking the time to read some of the stuff out there about why "occupy wall street" is a good movement |
| 19:27.31 | Shirik | and all I keep reading is that the problem is people are too rich |
| 19:27.45 | Shirik | and I'm really having trouble understanding why this is a problem |
| 19:28.03 | Arrowmaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:28.32 | Arrowmaster | oh hey its november 5th, i didnt realize that until after i made the comment |
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| 19:29.29 | Arrowmaster | i want to watch V for vendetta now like i do every november 5th but i dont want to restart my computer to fix the dvd drive |
| 19:31.53 | Arrowmaster | i could watch it on the xbox but that would mean id have to stop idle boosting gears 3 |
| 19:32.18 | Shirik | Arrowmaster is cheater |
| 19:32.38 | Shirik | Arrowmaster is cheetara |
| 19:32.53 | Arrowmaster | wtf is that |
| 19:33.11 | Shirik | WHAT |
| 19:33.14 | Shirik | you don't know who cheetara is |
| 19:33.36 | Arrowmaster | sounds like a name for a pokemon |
| 19:33.51 | Shirik | omg |
| 19:33.59 | Shirik | you never had thundercats in your childhood |
| 19:34.01 | Shirik | you were deprived |
| 19:34.31 | Arrowmaster | no i didnt, but ive been watching the remake |
| 19:35.56 | Shirik | the remake is evil |
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| 19:48.23 | amro | Shirik: why they're rich is the problem. how rich you are is not always proportional to how hard you work |
| 19:49.53 | Arrowmaster | i think they are focusing too much on the rich and not enough on the government that lets them stay in control and rich |
| 19:50.04 | amro | agreed |
| 19:51.04 | Arrowmaster | like that idiots 9-9-9 tax plan thats really a huge tax cut for the rich and a huge tax increase for the poor |
| 19:51.21 | amro | I might also add the problem is really that some people are too poor. people don't care about the rich when they're not in financial trouble |
| 19:52.05 | Arrowmaster | corporations seem to spend more money on how to dodge taxes than they actually do on taxes |
| 19:53.23 | pnorman | cut tax and spend administrations don't help |
| 19:57.21 | amro | I liked Bill O'Reilly's idea to tax drug dealers |
| 19:59.02 | ccox | Just in case some of y'all Yanks need to know a particularly interesting bit of British history... Fawkes was called "the only man ever to enter Parliament with honest intentions" |
| 19:59.20 | amro | hohoho |
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| 20:36.49 | zoktar | coder noob here, just gonna ask, if i want to use the output from GetPrimaryTalentTree(false,false) to a variable, where do i run it? |
| 20:37.24 | Cide | at www.lua.org/pil |
| 20:37.50 | zoktar | thanks |
| 20:42.30 | Fisker | hey Cide |
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| 21:10.18 | Fisker | Sixen i miss you :( |
| 21:16.04 | Arrowmaster | https://twitter.com/#!/EpicCog/status/132905475837673472 |
| 21:16.12 | Arrowmaster | at least they admit it |
| 21:21.19 | Fisker | deymad Arrowmaster ? |
| 21:29.24 | Fisker | hey Arrowmaster |
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| 22:25.39 | karl_w_w | what happens to a saved variable if you change it's name? |
| 22:25.52 | Torhal | Poof. |
| 22:25.53 | karl_w_w | I mean, is the old one left there or deleted? |
| 22:25.57 | Torhal | It's on disk |
| 22:26.02 | Torhal | Just not loaded. |
| 22:26.08 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 22:26.54 | Arrowmaster | i thought if you removed it from the toc it got removed |
| 22:29.52 | Corrodias | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:41.45 | bluspacecow | hmmm interesting question guys : Is mmo champion an official blizzard fansite ? |
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| 22:46.05 | bluspacecow | *plays with Torhal's hair* |
| 22:46.05 | bluspacecow | *bats it* |
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| 22:53.05 | amro | Factoid: C# exposes more than 10 integer-like data types, none of which are those defined by (Pythagoras, 500BC). In the future, can we get integers right? |
| 22:55.09 | Corrodias | modern wrestling isn't done nude. can we get wrestling right? |
| 22:55.21 | karl_w_w | think it is bluspacecow |
| 22:56.07 | amro | Corrodias: I'm sure you can find nude wrestling if you were to look for it |
| 22:56.47 | Maldivia | amro: what language does though? |
| 22:57.03 | amro | Maldivia: C# is just an example case study |
| 22:57.20 | foxlit | what exactly did that Pyth guy define? |
| 22:57.22 | Bibi | [23:41:23] <bluspacecow> hmmm interesting question guys : Is mmo champion an official blizzard fansite ? |
| 22:57.31 | Bibi | the fansite program was shutdown years ago |
| 22:57.34 | Bibi | :p |
| 22:57.42 | amro | this is from Tim Sweeney's presentation on "The Next Mainstream Language" |
| 22:57.48 | Alram | i was faster Bibi |
| 22:57.50 | Alram | owned |
| 22:58.03 | Bibi | you shouldn't take pride in that, we already had the discussion |
| 22:58.04 | bluspacecow | i have yet to find proof karl_w_w |
| 22:58.28 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 22:58.29 | amro | foxlit: he defined natural numbers |
| 22:58.32 | Alram | noone has yet beaten biebers 30 seconds Bibi so as long as im over that im fine |
| 22:58.35 | bluspacecow | ty bibi |
| 22:58.37 | foxlit | amro: did he now? |
| 22:58.46 | amro | foxlit: no, he did back then |
| 22:58.57 | Maldivia | bluspacecow: http://web.archive.org/web/20101203162551/http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/community/fansites.html - the wow fansites in the way back machine |
| 22:59.01 | foxlit | so you'd like an integer that can't store 0. Interesting. |
| 22:59.12 | amro | you're missing the point entirely |
| 22:59.35 | amro | the statement isn't, "only pythagoras's natural numbers ought to be available" |
| 23:00.05 | amro | it's meant to point out that available types are more concerned about the machine and its representation in memory than how the number is used |
| 23:00.14 | karl_w_w | Bibi: but was it an official fansite at the time? |
| 23:00.27 | Alram | lold |
| 23:00.29 | foxlit | I'm still not sure what it is exactly you want from an integer-like data structure |
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| 23:01.05 | Jamash | easy, use an enum with every value from 1 to UINT_MAX defined |
| 23:01.24 | amro | you guys should really read the whole thing for context |
| 23:01.40 | Jamash | the whole what thing |
| 23:02.17 | amro | https://docs.google.com/present/edit?id=0AWG8CZC-CmTAZGQ3OGdqajhfN2Y0cGtzZGcy |
| 23:03.12 | Maldivia | amro: why not link the (ugly) pdf instead? :) |
| 23:03.36 | amro | there's a pdf of it? |
| 23:03.43 | Maldivia | http://www.st.cs.uni-saarland.de/edu/seminare/2005/advanced-fp/docs/sweeny.pdf |
| 23:03.45 | amro | I only found this .ppt, so I dumped it on docs |
| 23:04.27 | foxlit | meh, so the statement is kinda meaningless even in the original content |
| 23:04.59 | amro | it isn't |
| 23:05.06 | Jamash | I think he should try APL :D |
| 23:05.14 | amro | I think you should try reading the title |
| 23:05.42 | foxlit | amro: "more then 10 which without P(X)" => "and an 11-th with P(X)" |
| 23:05.50 | foxlit | s/which// |
| 23:06.06 | Fisker | haha, no. karl_w_w |
| 23:06.20 | foxlit | seriously, though, you can't reasonably overflow BigInteger. |
| 23:06.23 | foxlit | game. |
| 23:06.42 | amro | it's not about overflows |
| 23:06.49 | amro | he doesn't want to fucking overflow BigInteger |
| 23:07.11 | Jamash | the fact that lamestream languages don't have hardware bounds checking says to me that the entire apparatus of computer hardware and software and language design of the past sixty years has been a failure in several major areas |
| 23:08.06 | bluspacecow | i sleepy /donk zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 23:08.12 | karl_w_w | haha Fisker |
| 23:09.49 | Fisker | no karl_w_w |
| 23:09.55 | karl_w_w | Fisker: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/xavius/Phlaryu/achievement explain |
| 23:10.04 | Fisker | sexplain? |
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| 23:14.23 | amro | I wonder how many more presentations I can read before qt finishes compiling |
| 23:15.47 | Cide | the last translation unit will actually fail |
| 23:15.54 | Cide | so all of them |
| 23:16.44 | Fisker | i once compiled gentoo |
| 23:17.36 | Cide | lies |
| 23:17.45 | Fisker | it's a true story |
| 23:17.52 | Cide | the lie is a true story |
| 23:19.10 | amro | you can't have "once" compiled gentoo. you are bound to have forgotten a USE flag and have had to redo it all over again |
| 23:19.23 | Fisker | nah |
| 23:19.38 | Fisker | but i did rage immensely when after several days it didn't work |
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| 23:31.35 | Jamash | I'm back |
| 23:32.06 | Jamash | I started compiling gentoo in 2004 |
| 23:32.12 | Jamash | It's still compiling |
| 23:32.18 | Jamash | ~rimshot |
| 23:32.18 | purl | badum-TISH! |
| 23:34.51 | Cide | gentoo is like the equivalent of the infinitely extracting zip archive |
| 23:35.45 | Jamash | they should set up a p2p distributed compilation network |
| 23:36.33 | Arrowmaster | except doesnt compiling it on a system that isnt what you are going to run it on defeat the purpose |
| 23:36.33 | Cide | that would bring down the internet |
| 23:36.45 | Jamash | let me rephrase that |
| 23:37.02 | Jamash | it would be hilarious if they tried to set up a p2p distributed compilation network |
| 23:37.31 | Cide | Arrowmaster: I guess you could set up a map of (compiler flags, architecture etc) -> object files? |
| 23:37.44 | Cide | and p2p those |
| 23:38.32 | Jamash | exactly! also you'd have to include version numbers (or hashes) of all include files, static libraries, etc |
| 23:39.08 | Jamash | then someone could seed the Thompson worm into the p2p network, and bam |
| 23:39.15 | Jamash | BAM! |
| 23:39.54 | Cide | well you could have each p2p user do a random sample of self-compiled object files |
| 23:39.57 | Cide | and make sure they match |
| 23:40.47 | foxlit | but that won't exactly save you |
| 23:40.58 | Jamash | the worm would be included in the p2p client, which would helpfully compare the hashes for you :3 |
| 23:41.07 | amro | what they should do is run performance tests, realize the compile time isn't worth the savings, and switch to another distro |
| 23:41.17 | Jamash | that's crazy talk sir |
| 23:41.24 | amro | you can always compile specific applications if you want customization |
| 23:41.37 | Jamash | take your sensible, rational discussion off of these here internets |
| 23:41.58 | amro | also, I have to relink this http://funroll-loops.info/ |
| 23:42.13 | Jamash | bookmarked |
| 23:42.14 | Arrowmaster | better yet, lets compile the programs on dedicated servers ahead of time |
| 23:43.57 | Jamash | This Connection is Untrusted. Technical Details: bugs.gentoo.org uses an invalid security certificate. |
| 23:44.05 | Jamash | ololololololololololo |
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| 23:45.56 | Cide | amro: now compiling qt |
| 23:46.02 | Cide | let us race? |
| 23:46.10 | amro | you will probably win, I'm on a laptop |
| 23:46.21 | amro | my desktop would have compiled it 4 times over by now |
| 23:46.32 | Jamash | rm -rf ~/src/qt |
| 23:46.37 | Jamash | I win! |
| 23:46.43 | amro | I'm on windows |
| 23:46.47 | Cide | did you get jom? |
| 23:46.50 | Cide | or do you only have one core |
| 23:46.57 | Arrowmaster | im on a desktop with all the ram being used, it would probably take me forever |
| 23:47.03 | amro | it's 2 cores I think |
| 23:47.05 | amro | I don't even know |
| 23:47.19 | Cide | http://qt.gitorious.org/qt-labs/jom |
| 23:47.20 | amro | I'm using nmake, no idea if it takes flags like -j8 |
| 23:47.21 | Jamash | open the task mangler |
| 23:47.23 | Arrowmaster | hopefully i get my new ram in the mail on monday |
| 23:47.25 | Cide | it doesn't on windows |
| 23:47.33 | Cide | jom does though |
| 23:47.41 | amro | oh, neat |
| 23:48.28 | amro | Arrowmaster: last time I shipped a ram, the costs bankrupted me |
| 23:48.59 | Cide | gotta compile the rams yourself |
| 23:49.34 | Jamash | that's illegal in many countries |
| 23:49.57 | Cide | yes, but the performance benefits are massive |
